Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Star Wars: The Clone Wars (w/ Preeti Chhibber)

Episode Date: June 16, 2020

Star Wars author Preeti Chhibber (The Clone Wars Anthology, A Jedi You Will Be) joins Nicole and Lauren to break down the critically acclaimed series finale to Star Wars: The Clone Wars. Have... Nicole and Lauren been gaslit into liking Star Wars? Is baby Yoda not who we thought he was? Plus more Hoth Goss about 90 Day Fiancé, Disneyland reopening, and how to become a writer for Disney.Looking to watch before listening? Here are the episodes we cover:S1E19 - Storm Over RylothS5E20 - The Wrong JediS7E9 - Old Friends Not Forgotten S7E10 - The Phantom ApprenticeS7E11 - Shattered S7E12 - Victory and DeathMedia mentioned in this episode:Stormtroopers enforcing social distancing at Disney Springshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCmJX7fOmUPreeti's Baby Yoda celebrating May the 4thhttps://twitter.com/runwithskizzers/status/1257308111263522816George Lucas watching Ewan Mcgregor get a haircuthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFvTkUOo1uIThe Clone Wars MOCAP fight sequencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzYyJa2UpasBeat Saber gameplayhttps://twitter.com/MarsMel/status/1271951033678389248We'll be back in two weeks for our Star Wars season finale.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Soon, the galaxy will be remade. The Jedi and Republic will die. And the Republic... ...will die. I sense a plot to destroy the Jedi. Great care we must take. Why would anyone walk away from being a Jedi? We were trained to be keepers of the peace.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Not soldiers. We clones have mixed feelings about the war. Without it, we wouldn't exist. All part of the plan. THE plan. Everything is about to this. Well, it's newcomers. It's me, Nicole Byer.
Starting point is 00:02:26 And I'm Lauren Lapkus. And we've seen Star Wars at this point. We can stop saying we've never seen Star Wars. I mean, we started this as two people who had never seen a drop of Star Wars in our lives. And now we've seen it all and we're experts. Experts who are not excited about it. We just know everything about we don't have to like it um today we're talking about the 3d cgi animated television series the clone wars which you can watch on disney plus and it just wrapped up in may with a four-part series finale and the series is seven seasons long with like 20 episodes a piece you have to really devote some time to watch this um and we didn't have time to watch all of it for the
Starting point is 00:03:18 podcast unfortunately we watched season one episode 19 storm over ryloff and then we watched season one, episode 19, Storm over Ryloth. And then we watched season five, episode 20, The Wrong Jedi. And then the four part series finale, season seven, episode nine through 12. Oh, I lied. So they don't all have 20 episodes. I also just realized I made a mistake when I watched because I watched season one, 19 and 20, not season five episode 20 so I also I also accidentally watched the first few episodes of season one so I've watched way more
Starting point is 00:03:52 like I'm gonna say that like that counts as me watching season five episode 20 because I've seen a lot of this content at this point and I feel informed yes you have so I'll just oh we were supposed to watch the Mandalorian and you watched four episodes of clone wars i was so pissed i was like i just spent my whole night watching this don't have to watch more okay mandalorian i kind of enjoyed though okay so um watch those first if you care about the spoilers uh if you don't care you can listen along and see what we thought about it we're gonna jump into some hoth goss really quick. The stormtroopers are enforcing social distancing at Disney World. There's a there's a link we can post probably somewhere. But Disneyland says they're planning on reopening July 17th. What are your thoughts on that? That's not far from now. It's too soon. It's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Like, wouldn't you be so upset if a family saved, you know, all year to go to Disney? They finally get to go and then they go home with Corona and then they have to make a GoFundMe for their health bills. Like, this sucks. It sucks. Like the stormtroopers enforcing social distancing. Are we living in the Hunger Games? Is it the future? Like this is that's scary.
Starting point is 00:05:03 It is scary. And I think I just think everything's reopening way too fast and I'm terrified. And I don't know what the rush is. I don't want to be at Disneyland anytime soon. I would love to be there this summer and having a normal summer and having a fun time. But this is just too scary. It's too scary. And then a friend of ours, Gilly, was walking past birds and she was like, there's so many people at birds.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And it's like, for what? For mediocre chicken? You can make better chicken at home. And the socializing there is bad, too. Yes. There's no good people at birds. Stay home. Birds comes after me.
Starting point is 00:05:39 They're like, what do we do to you? And I'm like, honestly, nothing. I like your chicken fingers. No, I mean, the chicken fingers are great. I haven't been there in a while, but I would eat some. But I don't need to go there while there are other people there. So anyways, we're very excited for our guest today. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:54 She's a young adult author who's written for Sci-Fi, Polygon, and the Nerds of Color, among other publications. And she co-hosts the podcast Desi Geek Girls and Strong Female Characters. She's written two official Star Wars books, so that already makes her more of an expert than we are. Yeah, just that. Just that alone. Star Wars and Jedi You Will Be and The Clone Wars
Starting point is 00:06:18 Stories of Light and Dark, which both come out later this year. Please welcome to the show Preeti Chhabur. We're so excited to have you we're so excited this okay please please let me know when when did you start enjoying star wars and why do you like star wars oh my gosh so here's the loaded question why do you like it uh first of all i am not here as a representative disney that is like the one thing that I have to say. You have a baby Yoda behind you. I didn't see it. Oh my God. You got one. Lucky. That's cute. That's really cute. Oh my God. It's so cute. So cute. I'm so happy right now. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:06:57 He's the cutest thing on the planet. He does. I'm a huge, like I come from like a line of nerd family, right? Like I don't remember the first time I saw Star Wars it has just been like ever present in my life like I can't I have an older brother my mom's like a huge dork so it's just kind of always been there I wish I had that first experience of watching it and like kind of you know finding out about Vader and finding out the connections between all these people but no it's just always been there and i just love the notion of it i love the fantasy of it i love the grand scope but also the like tragedy and hope it's like it's in my heart that's nice yeah you make it sound so good and nice and then and wholesome it makes me feel
Starting point is 00:07:43 bad but before we started recording i was like fuck this shit i fucking i know i know well this is the this is our challenge i think with this because we we like have to be honest that there are things we don't like but at the same time like i respect the guests and the people who care about it so i don't want to just shit on something just because i think that's fun which i also do think it's fun. But, you know, it's a tightrope. We're walking here. A very tightrope. OK, wait, let's talk about the baby Yoda doll for a second, because you posted a really cute thing on Twitter where your baby Yoda is looking out the window, remembering the outside world. Yeah, that was May the 4th. So May the 4th is like, you know, Star Wars Day.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And I was like, all right, today we're going to have a day in the life of Baby Yoda. So he like checked his email. He like checked his Animal Crossing turnip prices. He looked outside. And it was just like, he's just so cute. It just makes me so happy in this time where it's like nothing else is good and everything's on fire. I know. Did you order it a long time ago i did so i got an email from like i'm you know because writing for sci-fi and all of that you get those like publicity emails like hey just so you know
Starting point is 00:08:56 so we got the publicity email that's like this is available for pre-order and i was like i need it and then i forgot and it came like six or seven months after i ordered it and i was like what is this giant box from disney like what the hell and i opened it and i was like this is the best day of my life yeah nicole i don't know why we didn't just order them because we were like looking at the merch and we knew that it wouldn't be available till april but we didn't order them and i don't know why that would have been so nice during quarantine it would have been a nice surprise i also can't remember why we didn't order them but we talked about it heavily and then just didn't do it that makes a lot of sense actually you just need that star wars thing in your brain that's
Starting point is 00:09:38 like if i don't get this i'm never gonna get it because it will be out of sale like immediately yeah yeah i think is it sold out is baby yoda can you still buy the doll i know people were having trouble but maybe they made more we did get we do have to give a shout out to jake and amir for sending us the yoda baby or the real yes not baby yoda the old man yoda backpacks that we talked about forever adult yoda back we got them we've been talking about those since episode one. He sits, he sits staring at my bed. I wake up every morning
Starting point is 00:10:10 thinking someone's in my room, but it's just Yoda. It's old man Yoda. You know what we should have done? I don't know if I've thought of this before, but we should have called episode one of our podcast episode four and just had all the numbers.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I'm so upset that neither one of us thought of that. What is wrong with us? You know what? I will say, Lauren, I remember you saying that in episode one, but I didn't do it because I figured you'd be too confusing for listeners. Okay. I have thought of that before. Good. I know that my thoughts are always just like cyclical and I never have new thoughts. So that makes total sense. Never have new thoughts is so funny. And I never have new thoughts.
Starting point is 00:10:41 So that makes total sense. I never have new thoughts. It's so funny. Oh, my God. Okay, wait. I want to hear how you got into the work that you do. Like, how do you become someone who writes young adult books about Star Wars? Like, how does this happen? I don't understand the path.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Part of it is that I'm really loud about the things I like. So I'm just like, oh, Spider-Man. Oh, Star Wars. So so much somebody hire me and eventually someone like who had seen my tweets about wanting to write this stuff like gave my name to an editor at disney and sci-fi uh i write for sci-fi fan girls and one of the things they let me do is kind of write really weird funny posts like i'm like i had this weird idea for writing a post that's like all the things that let me do is kind of write really weird, funny posts. Like I'm like, I had this weird idea for writing a post. That's like all the things that are the same size as Tom Holland. Cause,
Starting point is 00:11:30 cause I thought it was funny that he in, uh, what's his face, Mark, the Hulk are the same height, even though that's bizarre. Like what? That's funny.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Right. They're both like these like little dudes. And when you stand next to each other, I was like, that's so weird. What else is the same size as Tom holland can i write this post and so i sent that to the disney editor and she was like all right you can write this spider-man book for us and then you get like you know this reputation of you can write like in voices of different characters and
Starting point is 00:11:59 so star wars came along and i was like i will do anything to write a Star Wars book whatever you want you want me to write a picture book about Yoda fine I'm sold I'll do it that's so fucking cool that you tweeted shit and then someone was like we like these tweets let me pass it to someone who can do something well that really reminds me of vision boards because I've like done vision boards for a long time and I remember explaining it to my uncle who's like really logical, who was like, this is what you think magic is going to help you get a job or something. And part of my argument for why vision boards are great is because you can like, it makes you so aware of what you want that you talk about it openly. And then it leads people be like, Oh, she said that thing, which is so cool. I mean, that really, that's such a great example that like tweeting out and being honest about what you're excited about,
Starting point is 00:12:43 what you want to do and not being afraid to like, look like, I don't know what the, what people would even say. Yeah. You're like begging for a job. And it's like, if you don't have a job, what's the harm in begging for one? Like, yeah, get the job. Why not? I mean, I think that our biggest issue is that we think that we're not qualified or like, why would someone give me that job? and even when i got the email of like hey do you want to write a spider-man book i like texted my best friend and i was like can i say yes to this and she was like you better fucking say yes to this or i'll kill you that is so cool so wait are your star wars books are they canon
Starting point is 00:13:20 yes oh that's cool that is cool it's very exciting that's really cool so did you like revisit everything while writing these things like have you been re-watching or do you feel like it's so ingrained in you that you don't really need to do that oh no i had to watch so the jedi a jedi you will be is this picture book where it's basically the training sequence from empire strikes back where you luke is teaching or yoda Yoda is teaching Luke and I had to watch those scenes over and over and over like I must have watched them like 10 times probably just the training sequences
Starting point is 00:13:52 which shout out to Mark Hamill's arms in 1980 whatever like so good so it wasn't that much of a chore but it was you know it was fun to revisit and then the Clone Wars anthology are actually retellings of episodes of clone wars so the episode i did which i don't think i'm allowed to share what the episode is but it is an anakin focused episode i had to watch several times okay
Starting point is 00:14:16 and so are there are there books for all of those episodes or this is the first one i think that they're doing but i imagine there will be more like i think this was something that people are excited about because you like you watch the episode but basically the stories are like taking a certain character's perspective and going inside their head with it so you see and get to feel like the narrative the internal narrative of what's going on in the episode so it's kind of like the affair on showtime yeah the story is told from different characters points of view except it's in space oh my god the first moment when they switched the perspective on the affair i was like holy shit same it was like a real simple like storytelling
Starting point is 00:15:02 trope and i was like on a plane and i was like oh i can't believe it and then i was like a real simple like storytelling trope and I was like on a plane and I was like, oh, I can relate to this. And then I was like, her shirt's gray in his mind. You know, like I don't, the things they change are so weird. It is exactly like that. That's a perfect,
Starting point is 00:15:20 that's a perfect analogy. Now I like it. Yeah, right? We love it now. We love Star Wars. It's just like, it's just like the affair. Who is your favorite character in Star Wars?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Oh, my God. I love Ahsoka Tano so much, but I love Luke Skywalker and I love Anakin. Who's Ahsoka Tano? Ahsoka Tano? Yeah. Oh, Ahsoka Tano. Oh, Ahsoka. Ahsoka.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Oh, wait. Her name is Ahsoka Tano? That's what I thought. I thought it was Ahsoka. I thought it was Ahsoka, too. No, her last nameoka Tano. Oh, Ahsoka. Ahsoka. Oh, wait. Her name is Ahsoka Tano? That's what I thought. I thought it was Ahsoka. I thought it was Ahsoka, too. No, her last name is Tano. Oh, okay. Like Luke Skywalker, Ahsoka Tano.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I was like, what's Ahsoka Tano? I talk so fast when I get excited. Ahsoka Tano. Well, I also was like, who is this? And I literally just finished watching it. Me, too. I mean, this is our problem. We have really bad
Starting point is 00:16:06 retention skills with this stuff it's just it's so hard it's so much even i had to like i have to like look stuff up sometimes when i'm like i know i've seen this 8 000 times but i still do not remember this one thing yeah i mean i think that's something that we've learned throughout this process that like even mega fans miss stuff or like interpret something differently or whatever. Like you just have a totally different experience. So that's been interesting watching, you know, 500 hours of this stuff. And then I cannot imagine what that experience is like. We're getting so close to the finish line. It feels amazing. Like I'm like, oh, good. good i'm like we are almost there like this is
Starting point is 00:16:46 gonna be we have to like i don't know get drunk or something when this is done i mean i think the most exhausting part about doing this is i don't like it and then i watch it and i'm like i guess it was okay and then i talk about it and then i go maybe i did like it and i was like am i just being gaslit into liking it because other people are like no but what about you feel crazy i'm like yeah it's i feel the exact same way like during it i'm like oh and then like and then like i read a little i'm like oh and then we talk i like that part i like that guy i like that character that was my favorite part i suddenly have all these opinions yes i feel like that's pretty standard in Star Wars, though.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Because, like, I remember I watched through all the Clone Wars, like, when it got released. When it was on Netflix, I think. And I was like, did I like the prequels? Like, did I make that up? Did I make up, like, being frustrated by storytelling in the prequels? And then I rewatched the prequels and I was like, I did not make that up. the prequels and then i re-watched the prequels and i was like i did not make that up like the clone wars made me believe that my experience watching the prequels is different than what it was see that's different because for me i felt like the clone wars made me appreciate the movies
Starting point is 00:17:55 more like i was like oh this cartoon bothers me yes i can't put my finger on why it bothered me but i was like yuck like every every scene i was like like a visceral like angry that it was still on my television but don't you think part of that is like the style of animation like because it's past our our nostalgia point and like not probably presumably not the type of cartoon you'd even watch now like i don't really watch cartoons now but if i did it would be like Bob's Burgers or something. So like there's a style that I appreciate more now. And this is like the sort of computer style that I think like little kids are getting a ton of now. And they like, but it feels really, I don't know, like I can't connect to it.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Same. It felt like to it. Same. It felt like sterile. Yeah. It was like Toy Story without the heart. Yeah. It was, I was, as I was rewatching, I was like, I cannot imagine what the experience of watching this is like without watching all of it. You know, without getting to go on the journey with these characters because ahsoka's journey
Starting point is 00:19:05 like ahsoka starts out as i think one of the most frustrating annoying characters in the series but you go with her so by the time you get to her end you're like i would do anything for you i but it's you know for me is like i just love when people love something yes i feel happy that you love it like i'm like like it makes me happy that people love this and i'm like oh yeah okay i'll love it too wait asoku wait is that my singer name right asoku asoka asoka is not in any of the movie movies no you hear her voice in the last one you do when ray is like calling on all of the jedi there's a line that ahsoka has a line which means she's dead by that point and has joined the force oh what wait what in rise of skywalker in the rise of skywalker when like ray is calling on all of the jedi to like help her past and
Starting point is 00:20:01 whatever and we're all we all knew this or did you have to look that up well it was it was something where you're like in the theater and you're like i think that's ahsoka's voice wow these movies really make you work for it they do so wait that movie came out after this series so you were already familiar with the character so they used it from that but they okay so that's interesting i mean i kind of like that's one thing i kind of like about all this is how they can kind of create a new character in one thing but then use it in another thing like there's so many things to draw from when you're creating something in this universe but and i mean we liked the most recent movies didn't we that was something we
Starting point is 00:20:40 thought they were more i think because they had like romance we were like weird because like we like them but then people were like we don't really like them like I guess we're not supposed to like them that's why I feel so frustrated because I was like I think I like that one and then the response online was like no yeah that one's bad
Starting point is 00:20:58 like people tweeted they're like we like listening but you're wrong the last we're not good i was like whatever i know who like this is how the problem with like star wars fandom now is that not the problem with the fandom i love the fandom but the problem with kind of how the internet has shifted the way we watch these movies is that you have to have like a hot take and an immediate opinion and you don't have time to kind of be like well like i did like this part maybe i didn't love this part like yeah i guess then we're doing it right because we we talk you guys are right we're the best we're perfect
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Starting point is 00:22:52 And we're back. Wow. Star Wars, The Clone Wars. It's a 3D CGI and it's set between or no, it's set during the three years between Episode 2 Attack of the Clones and Episode episode two attack of the clones and episode three revenge of the sith and this thing fucking first aired in 2008 and then just ended now i
Starting point is 00:23:12 didn't realize it was that old oh wait yeah explain some of the animation to me because that's such a different time that's so and that's definitely a point in time where i wasn't watching cartoons so that's interesting um wow 2008 they where I wasn't watching cartoons. So that's interesting. Wow. 2008. They've been on forever. Yeah. Isn't that nuts?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Oh, my God. There was a big break between season six and seven. How big of a break? I want to say six years. Whoa. Something like that. That's wild. I would have been like, oh, I guess it got canceled. But that's so Star Wars star wars that's so star wars to be like we'll just take a break for a few six or
Starting point is 00:23:49 seven years and then we'll come back and finish this story yeah i mean what was it like 20 years in between the prequels and the original movies or something like that that's crazy yeah you definitely would if you're a fan you would definitely think they're never gonna do another one it's been 20 years it's not happening and then they come up with one you'd be like holy shit yeah i guess that'd be cool but that's so like i am okay i'm i'm obsessed with this idea especially in this like world of like mass storytelling of dying before we find out how a story ends like yeah you think imagine like you think that like all right star wars ended like luke saved the galaxy everyone's fine and then in freaking 1999 this movie comes out that you're
Starting point is 00:24:35 like oh wait there's more to this story what and then you hear the news of like the sequel trilogy and you're like what and then you never find out how it ended because you died yeah yeah that would be horrible that would be like if i died before finding out what happens on 90 day fiance with lana and david oh boy oh boy i can't wait for part three of the tell all the tell all wait can i give you a they i don't know what's going to happen with the tell all but i did submit a question to possibly be used on the tell-all. Lauren, I hope they use it. So I pray they use it.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I'll lose my mind if they say this question's from Lauren Lapis. I know. I hope to God. And I've seen all the spinoffs of that, and I feel very, that's my fandom that I'm really a part of. It is my fandom as well. Greethy, have you seen 98 Fiance? I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It's the wildest show. You need to watch. It's so good. It's so good. It's always good. There's always something insane. These people are just fascinating people.
Starting point is 00:25:31 They're insane. Is it they literally like get engaged before? Like I don't understand. So basically it's people who are dating someone and this is for our listeners.
Starting point is 00:25:38 The 50th time we've explained 90 Day Fiance. Sorry. We love to talk about it. On that show, it's people who are dating someone overseas and then they they that person comes to america and has 90 days they have 90 days to get married while their before their visa runs out the like engagement marriage visa that they have and so you see these people where some of them are clearly being used for a green card and some of
Starting point is 00:26:02 them are in love and you just have to kind of guess, you know, it's just great. And everyone is a full blown Looney Tune. My favorite one is this woman, Jenny, who lived in Palm Springs and went to India to be with Samit. And she sounds like she swallowed a frog. She'll be like, I just love Samit so much. But also, Nicole, she literally was catfished by him he was showing himself to be a a white model basically and then she was in love with him and then she found out that it was who he really was she was like i'm still in love with him it was fascinating she didn't care
Starting point is 00:26:36 and then he was also married that's another twist it's so much it's so good much. It's so good. It's so wonderful. And I also really like when they go, like, the people travel to other places. Like, I like to watch
Starting point is 00:26:49 travel shows too. So it's kind of a mixture of a lot of different things. You get to see people who are, like, really not good at traveling,
Starting point is 00:26:55 like, in another country, just blowing it left and right. Like, it's just amazing. Where they, like, haven't learned the language
Starting point is 00:27:00 even though they're in love with this person. Some of them, like, truly play like charades where yes or they just use like google translator on the phone it's like a man and then he talks on the phone and it's a woman going like i love you very much like it's just like this is i i cannot like i cannot comprehend that this is what this show is about i thought it
Starting point is 00:27:19 was like two people meeting and then having 90 days to get married i think it's so much more i think to like teach about immigration and visas and has truly divulged into the wildest thing there is one woman named larissa who yelled at her husband that she called colty she said do you fuck your mother because he was so close to his mom and Then he drank like a half a bottle of whiskey. And you're like, these people aren't going to last. There's no way. No. And then he dresses up his cats in like tutus.
Starting point is 00:27:54 It, these people are bananas. It's only, only people who are bananas are allowed to be on the show. I feel like there are so few examples. I think like Lauren and Alexi are like maybe the only people on there. And I hate watching them. They're so boring i love them okay that's great okay okay well clone wars to the clone wars so very similar very similar so the first episode
Starting point is 00:28:18 that we watched was season one episode 19 storm over ryloff and the plot of this episode is the separatists have invaded the twilight home planet of ryloth anakin and a show uh ahsoka what was it oh god ahsoka lead a squadron of fighters against a trade federation battleship now i don't know that i got that me when i watched that i don't know if i understood that's what was happening i um i felt like she was kind of tough and here's what i got she's like tough she's like a badass she kind of like does whatever she wants and then i kind of was like all right like i don't think i got like that there was a battleship i don't know i missed a lot of important details i felt like she was tough but then anakin was trying to like dull her shine like he just kept being like no no you're wrong no am i right on that well so i think what you were supposed to kind of see from this episode is that Ahsoka needs to learn when to push and when to be reckless
Starting point is 00:29:28 because she decides kind of just to disregard orders and then you know two or three of her men die because she decided that on her own that they could do it and they couldn't and Anakin's trying to help her learn how to balance that recklessness and with the when you should do things but it does get you know the trade stuff is very confusing like all of the background politics like i even am like okay it's not a real war but it's a war but also there are like people don't really know what they're fighting for it's very confusing like i felt like i was a little kid when i was watching it because i felt like i didn't get it like i truly was like you know i i thought like what age is this for because that's one question i had watching this
Starting point is 00:30:15 because i thought like i feel like my seven-year-old nephew would like this but i don't think he could explain what happened and that's how i felt yeah i think it's the show is the show was initially like it was a 2d animation that ran on, I want to say, Adult Swim. Cartoon Network. I know. Cartoon Network, right? It was like kind of nighttime Cartoon Network programming. So it was like a little bit older but still okay for kids because it's Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:30:36 But there's this like other thing that if you're an adult or like an older person watching that you could latch on to if you wanted. But it's like if you it's like dipping in and out of the prequels like even now watching the first prequel i have to stop and like look up the politics of it because i'm like i don't understand what's happening yeah i'm very confused that's interesting that makes more sense that it's for old and older crown i felt like that the way that it looked made me feel like it was for like really for kids yeah Yeah. But are there a lot of cartoons that look like this that are for adults? Like, I just don't know that world really. I mean, I don't I don't know if you either of you would know, but.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I don't. I watch things like BoJack and Tuca and Birdie and like Bob's Burgers type stuff. So, yeah, like the 3D CGI, I never really watched. If you look so this is how this is how nerdy my family is. My sister bought like the Clone Wars art style book. She's a graphic designer. And she's like, I want to know more. And she was like, oh, it's actually all very based on like Grecian painting.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Like the backgrounds and these like beautiful like swatches of color. And I'm like, uh-huh. Very cool, I guess. I didn't pick up on any of that. Me neither. But I do like the hat she wears. Me too. Is that her hair or is that a hat?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah, is that a hair hat? It's part of her body. Like the Twi'leks have the thing. It's her head. Interesting. It's her head. Interesting. It's her head. Our analysis is so dumb, Nicole. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It's organic. We're like, huh, cool. That's her body. All right. Okay. Well, we answered that one. She's also like kind of sexy. She's hot. As far as things in this world go, yeah, that's an attractive cartoon.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I looked up the guy who's the voice actor for Anakin, because he sounds a little bit more cognizant of the world than our good friend Hayden Christensen. And I was like like is it Hayden and do you like it but do you take a nap or something uh but then it's like this other man who looks like a doll. His name is Matt Lanter. Yeah in real life he looks like a doll I'm looking he's pretty but in a way where I'm like oh do you you know when you like see a man and you're like you're too pretty I don't know what to do with you.
Starting point is 00:33:05 He does look like a doll. You can't be in movies. It's distracting. Is it like a Matt Bomer situation? Yes. And he was on 90210 as well. The CW's version. And he was in The Mandalorian.
Starting point is 00:33:19 He's like all over Star Wars. He does a lot of their voice stuff and then was in The Mandalorian as a something. I don't know. I was creeping on his Instagram. He's got a wife and kids. Yeah, he's really good looking. He's so pretty.
Starting point is 00:33:32 He is. Good for him. Okay. Should we move on to episode, season five, episode 20, The Wrong Jedi? And now I missed this one on accident. So how do I say her name again?
Starting point is 00:33:46 Ahsoka. Ahsoka. Ahsoka. it's truly pretty phonetic asuka tano is put on trial by the jedi council and must face the galactic senate and it can search this what did i what did i say wrong you said asuka you go asoka it's really phonetic okay it's so hard asuka asuka asoka asoka tano so anakin searches for a way to prove her innocence by finding the real killer and then okay this one okay so i don't have much to say about it because i didn't watch it unfortunately i really you but if you had told me last night oh you watched the wrong one i would have been like fuck you i'm not doing it again like i've already put in the time i get it so if anyone wants to explain something that i missed here she got like kicked out of the
Starting point is 00:34:42 jedi council but then they like invite her back with some beads but then she was like keep your beads and i was like okay so where's she gonna go but then i don't know where'd she go so this is what's this is what's hard about trying like doing the clone wars and and this like huge expanse because ahsoka isn't supported by the jedi the jedi are like a really fallible organization and so she's not supported by the Jedi. The Jedi are like a really fallible organization. And so she's not supported by the Jedi and basically loses all trust or connection with them outside of Anakin. And so that last scene between her and Anakin where she tells him she's leaving after being invited back is like heartbreaking in that way because Anakin also
Starting point is 00:35:22 spends almost the entirety of the Clone Wars like building to the point where he loses everything in the last one and it's just I just got real sad after watching all these episodes. Nicole what did you feel? I yeah I wasn't like sad I was just like so this episode I watched last night and then I had to like keep pausing it because i kept looking at my phone and then going back and then being like wait what and then um the man who lives with me kept trying to explain what was happening and then i was like i don't this i don't it's also like the last part in like a three-part episode like a three-episode arc oh it did feel like i was missing so much information yes yep oh boy i just i why does the jedi council hand out like friendship bracelets like why does she get beads i think that's her version of the padawan braid what's a padawan
Starting point is 00:36:20 braid that braid that like obi-wan has in the first movie. And then Anakin had that little rat tail braid that they have. I didn't realize that was a thing. I thought it was an aesthetic choice. Me too. Oh, I can send you guys this very bizarre YouTube video from the filming of the first of the prequels where George Lucas is watching you and McGregor get a haircut. Uh-huh. And get and like this.
Starting point is 00:36:42 It's so strange. Well, where he like wants him to have that or something or like yeah like they're talking about it but he's like standing in the back like george lucas and just like watching while ewan mcgregor gets his hair that's honestly the wildest thing that doesn't make anybody do things right that's like when a pa comes to your trailer to be like they want you on set and you you go, all right, be there in two. And then they stand there. I hate that. And you're like, oh. Oh, you think I'm going to move faster, my friend? No, I'm going to go pay. And so do you want to watch that?
Starting point is 00:37:14 Oh, boy, that's so fucking weird. That's really funny. Did George Lucas have any, like, say in these? Or, like, have any weight in it? Yeah, so Dave Filonioni who created the series is very uh kind of he and george lucas have like sort of like a partnership he's kind of the heir apparent to the storytelling in the tv universe um and so george lucas was involved i think in all of the major storytelling points and it is by lucas film or whatever his company because it's prior to the acquisition from disney okay yes so is it right yes it's disney yes i watched disney plus what
Starting point is 00:37:51 the so now now they have it but before it was just lucas film and then they bought them i wonder what george lucas does day to day oh my god i cannot imagine but didn't he do some really good stuff like donating a lot of money to like schools or something i feel like i might be making that up but i feel like he i feel like there was some story where it was like oh he did some like really good stuff with his money that he was when he got bought by disney that would be nice to have a whole bunch of money to do nice things you know can you believe there are billionaires who just don't give away money like that makes me sick jeff bezos becoming a trillionaire i don't know if he's like past the threshold i'm like that's sick you should be it should be illegal to be a trillionaire you have to give it away capitalism but i'm like there should be a cap to how much you make
Starting point is 00:38:33 if you don't pay your workers a livable wage and he doesn't pay taxes it's wait that's i yeah what amazon paid zero dollars in federal taxes over the last like five years i know me too it makes no sense to me like i don't understand how that's possible i don't feel like no matter how much i read about this i don't get why it's like legal it's so weird also amazon's doing a real shady fucking thing i went to like grocery direct.com because i was trying to find this uh ginger honey syrup to make penicillin cocktails. And I originally bought it on Amazon. And then I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm going to try so hard not to use Amazon. So I found grocery director, whatever the fuck it's called. And then it came to me and it said Amazon prime all over it. And I was like, did Amazon like buy websites to like trick me that I wasn't buying from Amazon? They do.
Starting point is 00:39:23 It's nefarious. i want to stop using it entirely but it's so hard it's hard because it is becomes such a part of our lives like i mean we did it we didn't have it before so i guess i can go back to somehow not well it's hard because they own like i don't buy books from them i that was like my line where i'm like i will not purchase things from them but they have their hands and everything like there's servers you can't there's was it kickstarter like indiegogo i think even when you were like trying to donate money you had to donate through amazon because they owned like the space or something and part of your donation would go to them and you're like that's so crazy i have like i connect my amazon to a
Starting point is 00:40:06 charity you know how you can do like amazon smile where it connects and then like i feel like i order so much stuff up there and then they're like you've uh you've donated two dollars the charity i'm like well how much are you giving from this purchase like this is so terrible oh god anyway shall we jump to the finale um episodes okay so then we jump to season seven episode nine old friends not forgotten ahsoka can cut i was gonna say contacts i suddenly don't know how to say any word um contacts and these words do to you i don't know what i'm talking about ahssoka contacts Anakin and Obi-Wan who must decide if they will help her pursue Maul on Mandalore.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So this woman, I didn't like her, this character, Miranda Hobbs. She popped up on the screen and I turned to John. I was like, I can't believe that Miranda from sex of the city is here. And then we had a great big laugh.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Had he seen it? No, but the man who lives with me, he had seen it. Oh, so does he remain anonymous? Yeah. I feel like it's mysterious. No, I like it. I just thought when you said the man who lives with me before, I thought you meant John.
Starting point is 00:41:26 So now I understand there's your roommate, John Milhiser, and then there's the man who lives with you. There's the other one. Yeah, my roommate, John Milhiser, John Milhiser, my roommate, and then the man. The capsing M and L, like the man who lives with me. Yes, yes. His title.
Starting point is 00:41:41 So Darth Maul, he's the man who wears who drives a scooter right in episode two and he's a no no well he's he died well he dies oh yeah and he becomes like a spider man episode one wait yeah he becomes like he's sort of sort of yes you are you're kind of correct. Okay. Yes. So he dies in the first one. Yes. So wait, this is before. And then survives. Oh. I know, I know. Wait, so this is after he dies and survives? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So he died in the first, in episode one, which I know I joked about the prequels earlier. I do actually genuinely really love the story of the prequels, but he dies in the first one because Obi-Wan like cuts him in half and he falls down. Oh yeah. But he actually survives and becomes a major player in the clone wars oh okay now how come you can get chopped in half and survive and become a major player like because space magic thank you yeah it's wild who gets to survive shit like that? Like, Anakin literally had all his limbs cut off and burned alive. And then they put him in a suit and he's cool. And then his dad, or not his dad, then Hans gets murdered by his son.
Starting point is 00:42:57 But he doesn't come back. He falls in a hole. But he can't come back. Right. Then he's a ghost. No. It's not fair. It's not fair.
Starting point is 00:43:04 But see, maybe he'll come back and like maybe they'll do a movie in five years and he'll just be back or something i mean but i don't know if um what's his name we'll want to keep doing it harrison ford harrison i don't think he does i think he's very much over it and he's like these movies have been most of my career it must be such a blessing and a curse because like he's rich as anything from being in them so that's like amazing and people love him forever because of it but then people see you as this one thing so it's kind of hard and he's like not as intuitive as everyone else he's like i don't give a fuck like that interview with him on the red carpet where they were like do you think i don't even
Starting point is 00:43:39 know what the question was but i was like do you think hans hann would be happy about what's happening? He's like, I don't know what the fuck is going on. It's very funny. But in this, we got to see a bunch of Mandalorians, and I still don't really understand Mandalorians, and yeah, I just, it's very confusing. So is the Mandalorian, the Mandalorian came out after this? Yes. Wait, when does the Mandalorian take place in the timeline?
Starting point is 00:44:07 So the Mandalorian takes place about like five years after episode six. So after Return of the Jedi. Oh, I know. Timeline is I have to think very hard about timeline sometimes when I'm watching. Yeah, because it's confusing because you think someone's dead, but then they're walking around and they're like having a great time. There you go. So yeah, this episode was like fine.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I just, it was fine for me. But like, you get to see Ahsoka be such a badass fighter. Like that part where she like jumps down from the ship to the dock or whatever and just starts like wailing on all those
Starting point is 00:44:46 mandalorians i feel like it doesn't resonate with me because it's a cartoon like i really like in the movies when when like the women get these moments of like fighting and being super cool and stuff like i i love those parts but like it feels real like this to me I'm going like okay and then that happened like I think my brain like just doesn't like emotionally connect which maybe that's a problem I have no I think it's like a it's a cartoon so there's no like stakes because you're like it's a cartoon yeah like they could die and it doesn't matter like yeah so then the phantom apprentice is season seven episode 10 asuka they do it no damn asoka yeah it truly is phonetic and i'm looking at whatever she faces off against small we've had trouble with the names for the whole 20 episodes yes and people tweeted at me that they don't find it funny and i'm like i don't find it funny. And I'm like, I don't find it funny either. It's hard to read.
Starting point is 00:45:47 So she faces off against Maul. And then he reveals that he engineered this conflict to lure Anakin there to kill him because Sidious. Wait, Sidious and Maul aren't the same person. Fuck. Darth Sidious? I thought Darth Sidious was Darth Maul. No. Wait, Darth Maul has the spikes coming out of him?
Starting point is 00:46:07 So Maul has the spikes coming out of him, and he's no longer Darth because he's not like a Sith apprentice anymore, and Darth Sidious is Palpatine. Yes. Right. Okay. We do know what you're talking about. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:22 So Sidious intends to make him his pupil. Ahsoka and Maul duel above the city. Ahsoka saves Maul from falling to his death. He is then captured by the clone troopers, despite his frantic warnings that everyone will die soon. Okay, the fight scene in this was a real fun treat. I liked
Starting point is 00:46:40 this. So cool. It's mocap, actually. They brought... Oh, maybe that's why it was cooler. Yeah, they did a really good job. They brought Ray Parkin, who played the original Maul in The Phantom Menace. And this woman, Lauren Mary Kim, played Ahsoka. And they literally did the fight. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Oh, that is cool. It's awesome. There's like a behind the scenes video that is very cool where you get to see them doing the fight and they show the side by side. Oh, wow. That's interesting. It was pretty badass. Why does she have two lightsabers so that's her fighting style she graduates she starts out with the series with one and then graduates to two is that she gets more
Starting point is 00:47:13 comfortable like every fighter you'll notice if you watch all of clone wars i won't which is admittedly a lot yep i would never they have their they have their like uh unique fighting styles and how they prefer to fight so like maul has his one big dark he's got like a baton but he like twirls around like the baton thing um so it uses two and it can use as one obi-wan has his style it's like all very unique to each character um oh wait i was gonna ask me and i forgot never mind maybe i'll come back okay oh oh no i was gonna i was gonna say um mars posted a thing on twitter yesterday where she's using two lightsabers in a game and slicing at things and she's gonna chime in to talk about this that's beat saber it's a vr game that it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:48:04 dance dance revolution but with your arms and you like swing around lightsabers to the beat of a Yes, that's Beat Saber. It's a VR game that it's kind of like Dance Dance Revolution, but with your arms and you like swing around lightsabers to the beat of a song. It looks really fun. It's very fun. It's a really great quarantine toy because I'm getting exercise. Yeah, it's so much fun. And it did feel very badass to see that fight sequence because I'm like, oh, that's that's like my video game.
Starting point is 00:48:20 That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. You guys will see this video game. It looks so so cool have you ever played that game what was it that game that used to be on the ipads or something like fruit ninja or something it's like that she's like slicing in the air with lightsabers like at these boxes and it's like to the beat it's very cool it's really fun i'd recommend it to anyone. It's my new obsession. Okay. Maybe I'll do it. Wait, why doesn't she let Maul die? Because they told her to bring him back.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Oh. And I think she thinks that they need to hear maybe what he has to say about Sidious, and that Sidious is the one kind of pulling all the strings, because he clearly knows who that person is. This one had a lot of things that happened, but truly the only thing I liked was the fight. But so these four episodes literally take place
Starting point is 00:49:10 during Revenge of the Sith. That's what I thought. I was like, this seems like... Wait, what happened that I was like, is this during the fucking movie? Oh, I can't remember. Is it when Obi-Wan... Because Obi-Wan goes to fight Grievous
Starting point is 00:49:23 with the multitude of arms and whatever. And Anakin is going to save the Chancellor and like all of that is happening while Ahsoka is on Mandalore. Oh. Okay. So then season seven, episode 11, after capture, it's called Shattered.
Starting point is 00:49:42 After capturing Maul, Ahsoka senses Anakin's fall to the dark side moments before Darth Sidious issues Order 66, branding all Jedi as traitors and forcing Ahsoka's clone troopers to turn on her. With the help from some droids, Ahsoka removes the inhibitor chip controlling Rex from his brain, restoring his free will.
Starting point is 00:50:00 That is when I was like, this is happening during the movie. Order 66. I was like, oh, that's the order that kills all the Jedi. And then I was like, oh wait, is she a Jedi? She is a Jedi. So they're going to come, she's not a Jedi? Well, she left the order. So technically she's not a Jedi.
Starting point is 00:50:14 But I thought you were a Jedi even if you weren't in the order. Because she uses the force. She uses the force to keep Maul up and to capture him or whatever. Well, anyone can use the force to keep maul up in to capture him or whatever well anyone can use the force anyone well anyone who has force capability can use the force but but like the dark side can also use the force right and they're not jedi yes okay so she deliberately there's that scene where mace windu and yoda they're talking and they ask her if she's saying something as a jedi and she
Starting point is 00:50:44 says no as a civilian. And that's her being like, I am not part of this order. Here's a question. Why did Yoda talk normal? Yoda was truly just like, what up, y'all? Here are some thoughts. Truly, like, why? Like, if everything is canon and you have to like be true to everything why isn't he speaking
Starting point is 00:51:06 backwards yeah i can't remember what he says what is the reasoning though that like they could just change that yeah that was kind of so crazy i was like this is taking me out it's interesting because you know when like writing the picture book you have to kind of remember that yoda is it isn't he has like a dialect. Like he has an, like there are like rules to the way he speaks and his cadence. So my, I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:31 I don't really know, but my guess is they figured out what words he would use and if he would use that structure or not based on what he was saying, because it's not consistent necessarily. Right. He's an interesting creature. There's a lot happening there that we don't know okay yeah well he's a baby and he's 50 there's a lot about him that doesn't make sense don't make that joke they're gonna come after
Starting point is 00:51:56 i made that joke on twitter and everyone's like you you know, that's not Yoda. And I'm like, I know. Oh, yes. He's right. Wait, what are Yoda's? What is what is it? I don't know. We don't know what the species name is. Oh, so it's not the same guy.
Starting point is 00:52:16 No, but that's not Yoda. No, that's not Yoda. It is a Yoda. I truly know. Oh, golly. I'm afraid. I'm afraid now that I said something that is misinformed, ill-informed, wrong opinion. I back off it completely.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I just didn't know. I truly thought that was Yoda. Like fans called it Baby Yoda because we don't know what the name of Yoda's species is. But the official name of Baby Yoda is The Child. I do like that. i like that too but like what species is the child are there more children i want to see a bunch wait but i want them now god lauren oh boy do you think like an ewok movie but it was all baby yodas i would lose my mind that would be so cute. That's a great idea. Like, give us that.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Give us that planet. Do that. Give us the planet of Yoda. You know, there is another Yoda called Yaddle. We know about her. That's female Yoda, but I haven't seen her. Where's Yaddle? We used her in our fan fiction.
Starting point is 00:53:17 She got lots of guests. I think you shouted her out, Lauren. Wait, where's Yaddle now? Yaddle died, but I don't remember the timeline like i don't remember when or how did she die in clone wars or a different series no and like i might be i'm not sure it's also like the legends and the canon i get very confused with same that's so it's so positive what is considered legend? So legends are anything prior to Disney buying Star Wars, any books, any, like, because they didn't have a cohesive, like, storytelling unit. Like, there was no, like, story group that was deciding what is.
Starting point is 00:53:57 So there's, like, contradictions and there are all these characters and then published through different houses and different imprints. and then published through different houses and different imprints. And so once Disney bought Star Wars and created one story group that would handle all of the content to make sure everything made sense together, all that other stuff went into Legends, as they call it. So it's everything they didn't buy is a Legend. Everything they didn't create. They didn't create. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But they didn't necessarily create any movies but the third movies right yeah but that's all can't like i guess i should say extra material oh so the movies are canon movies are canon clone wars is canon like like books and games games comics all that are the ewok movies considered legend or canon i don't know those have to be legend because they are just i'll tell you what they are garbage i had i haven't seen them i don't know you don't never need to it's three hours of your life but you can't get back and you know that's just the reality we live in wait did you guys watch the holiday special hell yeah dude that's number one i'll probably re-watch that at christmas when i'm alone and
Starting point is 00:55:10 can't be with my family because of the coronavirus it'll be your family be be arthur will be your family oh boy i hope corona goes away by december me fucking too did you see new zealand is like back at life because they have no more confirmed cases iceland too why didn't we take this more seriously i think i wonder why yeah it's also i feel crazy for staying inside do you know what i mean oh my god and i'm like but we were just inside for so long and it's gone like no one's wearing masks and i don't understand and then i read an article today we're all over the place today this podcast but who cares this is what's happening so i read an article that american airlines had somebody with a confirmed case of covid19 and it wasn't a full plane i think it
Starting point is 00:56:00 was like 46 people on but they contacted the airline to say that they had it and then the airline didn't contact a single person on the fucking plane and people died people died oh my god it's just and then like planes aren't social distancing you could be in a middle seat i'm like this is nope there are some actually just took a screenshot because um angela trimber was trying to figure out what airlines are good and which are not. So I can tell you really quickly if anyone out there wants to hear this. So JetBlue masks are required. Middle seats empty.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Pre-packaged sealed bags of water. I don't know why they're bags. A bag of water? What is this? I don't know what that is or if that's just a typo and she meant bottles. Two snacks and sanitizer wipes. Staff wears both gloves and mask. And the plane is 50 filled delta masks
Starting point is 00:56:47 required middle seats empty staff and gloves and masks and they claim it's extra sanitized but nicole we know your story and that that could be questionable she found poop in a blanket sealed blanket american airline full flight every every seat. No other information. United Airlines, seats filled, no masks required, and will just refund and tell you to leave if you're uncomfortable. Southwest, seats filled and no masks. Alaska Air, no middle seats. Seems clean, but, you know, questionable. I mean, I just, it's unconscionable that a whole corporation would just be like, well, you know, maybe they'll die.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Maybe they won't. I just don't understand. I think people are sick. Like it's so messed up that the way that things are just reopening for money is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. I just can't. Not for money. It's so like the government can keep bailing out larger corporations and not have to bail out smaller businesses because you opened if you can't like succeed that's you fucked up wow i didn't realize because think about it this way if ihop is running at 30 capacity how is ihop making money most
Starting point is 00:57:56 restaurants don't make profit or they like they run in the red or they like just make profits a little bit or they like break even but if you're just losing money every fucking day you're just accruing more debt which means that you probably will not be able to stay in business so then you have like your bjs and tji fridays and corporations like that like they'll stick they'll stick around but like your favorite restaurant around the corner probably won't it is so fucked up reopening the economy is not stimulating the economy nope it's insane it's a boy oh oh boy so season seven episode 12 victory and death maul destroys the ship's hyperdrive which is rude causing the vessel to drop out of hyperspace and into the moon's gravitational field
Starting point is 00:58:42 just barely clearing the doom ship ahsoka and repace and into the moon's gravitational field. Just barely clearing the doomed ship, Ahsoka and Rex escape to the moon. It's just funny to read. Where they respectfully bury the clones and Ahsoka discards one of her lightsabers. Sometime later, Darth Vader arrives on the moon and recovers Ahsoka's lightsaber from the wrecked cruiser. And what does Vader do with the lightsaber? So here's, with Ahsoka's lightsaber from the wrecked cruiser. And what does Vader do with the lightsaber?
Starting point is 00:59:07 So here's with Ahsoka's story, because Ahsoka never shows up in the movie. So there's a lot we don't know, but there is a book by E.K. Johnston about just after Order 66 and after the calling of the Jedi, where you kind of see how she decides to start helping the rebellion build.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And then there's a series i don't know if you guys know about it called star wars rebels of course i don't which is we actually don't know yeah so star wars rebels is kind of the spiritual successor to clone wars in that it takes place after uh the original or the prequel trilogy so aftervenge of the Sith. And about five years before A New Hope. And it's about the building of the Rebellion. And Ahsoka actually shows back up in that as a key player in the Rebellion. And you get to see her and Vader's reunion. And it is horrifying and sad and kind of incredible.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Because they both think each other is dead. You're making me want to watch it, even though I know I'll watch it and just be angry that I'm watching it. Nicole, if either of us were to ever watch Star Wars on our own time after this, I mean, that's like amazing. That would be incredible.
Starting point is 01:00:18 The most amazing experiment because we end up wanting to watch it in our free time. Did you finish The Mandalorian? No, did you? Me either, no. Yeah, why would I do that? But it's funny because i was like vaguely interested and liked it same but i was like i couldn't possibly finish it but apparently ahsoka is gonna be in mandalorian too is that that's the rumor i don't know if it's been like officially said but that's what they're saying
Starting point is 01:00:42 and i super hope so that would be cool then to see her as actualized like with a real person that's cool well because we never know we never find out if she knows of uh anakin's redemption at the end of return of the jedi like we don't know the last you get of ahsoka and vader is they have this like fight they have a fight where they both she thinks she doesn't know vader is anakin and there's this like fight they have a fight where they both she thinks she doesn't know Vader is Anakin and there's this like horrifying moment when they're fighting and his helmet cracks and she sees Anakin's eye behind the helmet and it's like it's like heart-wrenching and she like is trying to save these other characters and so you never find out if she knows that her master ended up being redeemed at the end.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And like, that's all I want in the world is to know that she knows. Please give me this. That's nice. Well, The Clone Wars was a massive rating success. It was one of Cartoon Network's highest rated shows during its initial run. And the show has received praise for its writing, action, characters, visuals, voice acting, music, scale, and tone. So I guess that's every single thing.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Every single thing, they were like, it's great. Yeah. It's so good. And then The Clone Wars season one started with a 67% score on Rotten Tomatoes, but then season three, five, six, and seven all have 100% scores. Dang.
Starting point is 01:02:02 What? That's insane. That's amazing. That's wild. I's amazing. That's wild. I'm very impressed by that. I mean, I guess we haven't gotten on Rotten Tomatoes to add our voices yet, but I don't want to throw off the score. I'm going to spend some time today writing some reviews
Starting point is 01:02:15 to bring down that score. No, I'm kidding. Can you imagine? I've seen five episodes, six episodes, but here is my opinion. I just have my full-blown opinion. It doesn't work. I couldn't follow it because I was on my phone the whole time. 2%.
Starting point is 01:02:31 And I skipped around and didn't watch it in order. Ruthie, do you want to plug your books and tell people where they can pre-order them? Yes, you can pre-order them at bookshop.org, which will let you buy indie in your area if you don't have your own local bookstore. I know everything's up in the air, but most local bookstores are shipping orders out and have curbside. So please bookshop.org. Check that out. A Jedi You Will Be is out October 6th. It's a picture book.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And so it's like for kids, but it would be fun to read along with your kids. It looks really cute. It's the art. The art is the cutest by Mike Dees. It is like Yoda is this cute little old man. It's the best. It's really sweet. And then Star Wars, The Clone Wars,
Starting point is 01:03:11 Stories of Light and Dark, which is an anthology I'm in, is out August 25th. Yay, congrats. Congratulations. So cool. And I'm super excited about that one. It's got amazing stories in it.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Well, everyone go buy those. I love it. Thank you so much for being here and talking about this with us, because we probably weren't the best conversationalists around this topic. Yeah, do we make you sad or upset with our opinions? No. And truly talking about anything but this? I loved it.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I love you guys both so much. This is awesome. Thank you. Well, we're going to we have a five Star Wars segment here. We have a review from Brian Dilley on Apple Podcasts, and the review says Black Lives Matter, which duh. So we agree, Brian. We'll be back in two weeks for our Star Wars season finale.
Starting point is 01:04:02 We'll be covering your most requested film, Spaceballs. And we have some very special guests lined up. We're really excited about it. I'm pretty excited to watch this movie. I feel like this is going to be a fun way to wrap it up. Yes. Yeah. Because people kept saying, they're like, you have to watch it.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Like even John Millizer, my roommate was like, you have, it's so fun. You have to watch it. You'll get it all. This is how much we don't know about this whole world. Yeah. So we're going to watch that. That'll be fun. You haven't seen Spaceballs? This is how much we don't know about this whole world. Oh my God! Yeah. So we're going to watch that. That'll be fun.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Maybe we'll actually like our homework. Maybe. But honestly, I don't think we will. No, you will. You will. It's so fun. You know what's interesting about, like, our review is Black Lives Matter and I've gone to protests and you know things are happening right now it's so funny that star wars is so popular and it's about a civil uprise against oppressive forces that is essentially the government yeah or whatever i was like wow
Starting point is 01:04:56 that's fucking that's fucked up it's the rebellion man it's so fucked up oh boy preethi do you have a twitter and instagram you want to promote uh yeah twitter you guys can follow me on twitter at run with skizzers which is s-k-i-z-z-e-r-s i signed up for twitter before i knew it was going to be important and so like i used my aim screen name that's great that's my professional presence on the internet but yeah hang out with me if you like shit posts star wars spider-man and political activism good we like all those things yeah i want to promote nicole's book um which i got in the mail and it's so fucking great i love it every page you open to there's something funny or amazing like it's just it's so good um so everybody should
Starting point is 01:05:44 get that book and i want to promote my patreon because that's very important during this time open to there's something funny or amazing like it's just it's so good um so everybody should get that book and i want to promote my patreon because that's very important during this time where i have no work so please join me on patreon at patreon.com slash lauren lapkus and i'm doing watch alongs for all different type of stuff including star wars but also things like clueless and random movies and um and i'm gonna do it with some game shows and more short shows things are a little quicker i'm also doing improv on there a lot so there's a lot of different stuff my short film is up there that i made um yeah so follow that and watch the wrong missy on netflix what about you nicole i'm gonna promote you on good girls because it's network and you'll get
Starting point is 01:06:22 residual when people watch it. Thank you. Need that in this uncertain time. Just put it on while you do your dishes. You don't even have to watch it for Lauren to get some money. Thank you. Very thoughtful. Also, I have other podcasts. Why Won't You Date Me,
Starting point is 01:06:40 Drag Her, 90 Day Bay, Best Friends. Nailed It on Netflix as a thing. And then, yes, please buy my book. But if you do, please buy from an indie bookstore or a black-owned bookstore. I have a link in my bio on my Instagram where you can do that. And, yeah, that's it. Star Wars, baby.
Starting point is 01:07:00 We did it. Well, all right. Thanks, guys. We'll see you next time for our finale. Okay. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:07:21 That was a HeadGum Podcast.

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