Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Karate Kid (w/ Bill Hader)

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

This week, Lauren and Nicole take a trip to the Cobra Kai dojo to get into all things The Karate Kid with very special guest Bill Hader (Barry, SNL)! The group waxes (on and off, of course) about the in-depth backstories of Daniel LaRusso (Ralph Macchio) and Mr. Miyagi (Pat Morita), the incredibly high expectations this movie set for both dating and martial arts training, and where Joe Pesci might possibly fit into this cinematic universe. Join us next week for our episode covering Bend It Like Beckham! Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. This is it. This is the end of the line. Tell him me. Did I tell you about the pool here? For Daniel LaRusso, Is this the only pool you guys got? the future seemed far from terrific. This place is a dump. You should go back to New Jersey.

Hey, I know it's hard, but we're not quitters, are we? Until he met the right girl. She's beautiful. I say she's beautiful. I think she's beautiful. Did you get your address? You got it. But that only angered the wrong guy. You know, country club at 9.30. Definitely. You gotta be nuts. angered the wrong guy. You know how much the country's probably 9.30? Definitely.

You gotta be nuts. And his troubles really began. You're out of pushers. Nice. Then, in one man, he found a teacher. I promise teach karate. And a friend. Fighting all his last odds.

How did you do that? I must teach karate and a friend fighting all his last odds. How did you do that? Don't know. First time. Power. Whole body. Make a perfect picture. But how do I know if my picture is the right one? If it comes from inside you, always right on.

Lesson about the balance. Not just karate, listen for all life. Fight drink. So I won't have to fight. Hey, karate kid. Let's do the move. You know, points are no points. You're dead meat.

I don't have much of a cheering section. You got me. In the end, it will be in Daniel's hands, in his body, and most of all, in his mind. Concentrate, focus, pause. Remember, balance. No mercy.

Columbia Pictures presents The Karate Kid. Hey, what kind of belt do you have? Canvas. You like? JC Penny 398. Oh baby, welcome to Newcomers playing for the home team. It's me, Nicole Byer and me, Lauren Lapkus. And of course we have Coach Anya and Coach Allie with an IE watching from along the sidelines. And guess what? This, I love that it an IE watching from along the sidelines. And guess what?

I love that it says IE today. This season, we're covering 10 of the sports movies that we feel are so good they could win a karate tournament against all other sports films. Today, we'll be watching the 1984 film starring Ralph Macchio, Noriyuki Pat Morita, and Elizabeth Shue, The Karate Kid. Guess what? The Karate Kid is streaming on Starz!

Or it's available for free on any of the other major streamers. And guess what? We're gonna spoil the fuck out of this movie. Playing for the visiting team today, we are so excited to have Bill Hader. Bill Hader is an actor, writer, producer, and director known for co-creating and starring in the award-winning HBO series, Barry, and his eight years as a cast member on SNL,

and films like The Skeleton Twins, Inside Out, Trainwreck, Superbad, and Hot Rod. Thank you for being here, Bill. We're so proud of you. Yes, Bill, thank you. Thank you, thanks for having me. We're so pumped to talk about the Karate Kid with you. I know you begged us to do this.

Yeah, I know, I kinda shut up. You said, please! I was like, why aren't you guys doing Karate Kid? Yeah, it was really annoying. Wait, Bill, what is your relationship to karate? My relationship to karate at all, like just karate? Yeah, do you do karate? No, no, I never, I don't like getting hurt.

I don't like getting hit in the face. And I think it's because of this movie. I think this movie kind of made me not want to... I think some kids saw it and they're like, I want to like get into karate and go to like dojos, exploded all over, you know, the US after this movie. But for me, it was like, no, I don't... That Billy kid kicks a guy in the face

and I was like, that kick to the face for a scene in the movie, I was like, I don't want to deal with that. It's over. I don't want this. Did you play any sports growing up? Yeah, I mean, growing up, I grew up in Tulsa, Oklahoma and you had to, yeah, it's like, if you didn't play sports you were kicked out, so it was like very big. You have to it was like very, it was like, it'll lead the state.

Yeah, so it was like, I played- You had to pick something. Yeah, baseball, football and basketball. Oh, and that's- And I played basketball through into high school, but I wasn't, I wasn't that great. Yeah, but you're tall. It was just, again, it was like a prerequisite to exist.

Yeah. Wait, Lauren, but you're tall. It was like a prerequisite to exist. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, Lauren, have you done karate? Every day, it's like, so my passion. Yeah, you're kind of known for that. I am known. No, I've never done karate, but I always thought as a kid that it would be so cool.

Like I remember thinking that would be really cool to take karate lessons and do that. Um, but I never did. And watching this movie, it definitely made me think about how it was very popular growing up and, like, kind of a thing for kids to do that I don't think is really talked about much now. I mean, nobody's suggesting it for my children. Well, I'll suggest it.

There's a dojo down the street from my house, actually. There actually is. So I will see kids and karate gees, Well, I'll suggest it. There's a dojo down the street from my house, actually. There actually is. Really? So I will see kids and karate geese, like, walking around, getting on the butt, you know. That is cute. And I have three daughters and they're zero interest in karate. Yeah.

Just bring them. They're children. They don't really have a choice, right? Well, not these days. They have too many choices. No, but they were like, absolutely not. But they like Cobra Kai, they like that show. Okay, and I did watch a bunch of Cobra Kai,

having never seen this, because Mike, my husband likes Karate Kid, and he was like, we gotta watch this. So you were just totally lost. I was raw dogging. Yes! Raw dogging. Raw dogging. Well it's funny, I had no history, no context.

I heard about Cobra Kai. That was the New York Times quote too. What is Cobra Kai? Raw dogging with everyone's raw dogging Cobra Kai. Yeah, everybody's raw dogging, yeah. That was the poll quote. Yeah, everybody's raw dogging. Everybody's raw dogging Cobra Kai. They don't know shit about where it comes from.

And I didn't, I didn't know, but I liked it. I liked it anyway. And then when I was watching this and I was like, wait, is that the real guy? And Mike was like, yeah. And I was like, oh my God. I was like, so I knew Ralph Macchio, but I didn't know the other guy was also now in Cobra Kai.

The blonde guy is in Cobra Kai? It, like it's kind of amazing for his career. He gets to like just fucking star on a show. Out of nowhere. It's his baby too. Oh, he made it. He was the one that, he made it. Yeah, it was like his. Wow.

Yeah, he was like the bad guy in a lot of 80s movies. Just One of the Guys was another movie, I remember. Yes, oh that one, oh my God. Oh, Just One of the Guys, wait, is that remember. Yes, oh that one, oh my God. Oh, Just One of the Guys, wait, is that the one where the girl pretends to be a guy to go to like school or something? To school, yeah, it's like to be like,

I forget what the thing was, but that was on HBO. It was, yeah. She's the Man, yeah. And it was like Tootsie came out and they were like, what if we do Tootsie, you know, but with like a babe, you know? I don't remember. it was so stupid. Like it would always play on TV.

It was so kind of backwards. Yes, it would play on TV in the summer. I remember watching that and like, there's a part, they of course cut around her tit, but there was a part where she would like show her, she's like changing or she shows her boobs or something happens and everyone's like, bleh, it's like. No, bleh. It's like, no, no.

There is a moment where she, as the boy, becomes best, of course, her best friend is this nerdy guy who is into James Brown, if you can remember, and he likes to dance like James Brown. And then he, of course, at the end, she's like, I love you, and he's like, oh, what are you, like, gay or something?

And then she opens and you see her breasts. Whoa! And this was on HBO at one in the afternoon. And I remember my friends and I being like, what? Yeah, it was a big deal, just one of the guys. And the poster was her in a locker room with two like beach balls in front of her. Oh my God.

It was very 80s. It was very 80s. Yeah, it was very like, I got a watch. But like, that's so insane to just be like, are you gay? And it's like, look at these. And it's like, wowee zowee. I just did a 180 on you.

Now I like you. I thought you were a man. I just did a 180 on you. Now I like you. I thought you were a man. Yeah. I thought you were a man and disgusting. But now you're a lady with tits and I'm on board. Yeah, this doesn't go against God's message. Yeah, so.

Yeah, so I think, yeah, that was a crazy one, but he was in that as the bad guy, and then he... I feel terrible, I don't know his name. We'll tell you in a moment. It's Rand, it's... Hold on, I can get there. No, I can't. William Zapka. Yeah, so he directed, I think, Cobra Kai.

I love that hand. He's the guy so he directed, I think, Cobra Kai. I love that he made a short film. He's the guy that was like, come on, let's continue the character and stuff. Oh yeah, it's super popular. Is Ralph Macchio in it? Yeah. He is. Wait, maybe I'll watch it, because I fucking loved this movie.

Same, I loved it so much. I loved this movie. I couldn't believe I hadn't seen it. I would have believed I had not fucking seen this. I would have watched this 100 times growing up. It's like every 80s movie. I would have bled if I hadn't seen it. I would have watched this a hundred times growing up. It's like every 80s movie that I liked. It has everything. And the ending is so abrupt, which I love.

It truly is. Goodbye, we're done. Yeah, I mean, that ending was like, John G. Avilston who directed it, directed Rocky. Oh my God. And it is like very much like a Rocky. We just watched that for the first time. This is Kid Rocky.

Kid Rock. He has a weird career because- This is Kid Rock. It is Kid Rocky. That's what Kid Rock got his name. He was like, Karate Kid. It's like Kid Rocky. Wait, who just said that?

I did. I just said that. I'm Kid Rock. I'm Kid Rocky. And they're like, what if you were just Kid Rock? Shut up, I'm stealing that. But John G. Avilston had a weird career because he made these really kind of weird movies

in the early 70s that were kind of like... One's kind of X-rated, and there's one called Joe that was like Susan Sarandon's first movie that's kind of strange, and then somehow he made Rocky. Like, it was kind of like this weird career shift. And then he did this movie and I think another sports movie. He did a bunch of stuff. He did a movie called Neighbors with John Belushi and Dan Aykroyd that's not good.

I've never seen that one. Very interesting guy. I've only seen the Seth Rogen Neighbors with Zac Efron. I've seen that one too. Is that how they spell his name now? Like Efron. Efron. What did you guys like about the movie.

What did I like? Everything. I loved the karate. I loved Ralph Macchio is I love him and my cousin Vinnie. And I think he's so hot and he's so charismatic. This is his second movie. I Googled it and he's such a natural. He's a little tiny little guy and he has so much charisma. And he's like, I don't know if he's adding in lines or he's adding a natural. He's a little tiny little guy and he has so much charisma. And he's like, I don't know if he's adding in lines or dials, he's adding in a little flavor, a little pepper over here and there. He's kind of like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He talks like he's, I guess he's from New Jersey, but he's like, come on. I know. Come on, come on. And the mother's like, come on, what are you doing, Danny? Come on, get out of your mama. Yeah, it's like very. Oh God.

It reminded me of- He's a fish out of water. Yeah. It reminded me of the mom in Big, and Big is my favorite movie. And so I already was like excited about that. And then it was very like, it's like every movie that I loved growing up is this.

I just thought this movie was about karate mainly. And so I never wanted to watch it, but it's really a love story. It is a love story. And growing up and fitting in and running on the beach. Those kids had such stamina and I couldn't believe how fast they could run on sand. Yeah.

And fight on sand. Yeah. Well, I was happy for them that they were fighting on sand because I was like, he gets to do his falls into sand. It's not that hard, you know? Yeah, he's so good in this movie though. Remember, he was in The Outsiders too. He was so good.

Oh, The Outsiders is great. That was a great movie. He's so good in The Outsiders. This is us on every episode. Everybody brings it. Everybody mentioned I've never seen it. Like, what's The Outsiders. This is us on every episode. Everybody like brings it. Everybody you have mentioned, I've never seen it. Like, what's The Outsiders? What's the movie? I like Dan's side.

No, Outsiders is like, yeah, that's fine if you haven't seen that one. But yeah, Outsiders is kind of actually would be cool to watch because it's like all these people. It's like Tom Cruise and Patrick Swayze and Mulelis Devis and Rob Lowe. It's like all these people's first movie. That sounds good.

It's insane. I love Patrick Swayze. So I'm on board. You'll like this movie. Wait, Lauren, do you? Yes. Oh my God, he's amazing. Ugh, I have a big old picture of him in my house.

I love him so much. What is it from? I think it's, I'm looking at it now. It's just a black and white, I think publicity picture from Dirty Dancing. Oh! Oh! Oh!

Okay, well we should do the shot clock now since we're really jumping in the movie. Each of us will have 10 seconds on the clock to summarize the film and Anya and Ali will count us down and tell us when we're out of time. So everybody just think for a second. We're gonna quickly summarize it however you want. You know, focus on the parts that matter to you.

Okay, do you wanna go first? Who wants to go first? Yeah, I'll go first. A kid from New Jersey moves to LA with his mom and he's like, I don't fit in, but then he makes friends and then he gets beat up and then he finds karate and then a nice maintenance man teaches him more karate

and then he wins. Maintenance man. I guess that's what he is. He is a maintenance man. It is, it is, that's right. I was so confused because I was like, wait, he's a maintenance man, but then he has a mansion and a plethora of cars.

His storyline was like my favorite thing, but. Well, we learned so much in truly while he's asleep. I know. While he's asleep. We learned so much. Okay, Bill, do you want to go or you want me to go? I'll go, but I can't do better than Nicole. That was really good.

Yeah, you got this. I will do my best. Kid moves to LA and gets beat up a lot and then he has to learn karate. But first he's got to like fix this guy's house and he's like, I just fixed your house. He's like, wait, learn karate. All right, Lauren. Okay. A cute little boy moves from New Jersey to LA.

He's a fish out of water. I stole that. And he finds a girl that he thinks is cute and she likes him back, but he likes to learn karate. But he likes to learn karate. Well, we got to talk about the romance part. I like that's the pitch for the movie.

They just went in and they were like, but everything's made money. He's like, we're karate. And they were like, we're gonna just start throwing money at us. Okay, we love karate. They were like, wait, let me throw money at you. I'm literally gonna throw money at you.

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It was written by Robert Mark Kemen, directed by John G. Edveson. And then we also, we know he directed Rocky. Okay, Bill, I can't say people's names. I'm very bad at names. I'm bad too. It's so hard to read. Good.

Well, okay, we're gonna jump into the plot of the film. Obviously jump in wherever you want to mention things that you liked or wanna talk about. In 1984, 17 year old Daniel LaRusso, Ralph Macchio and his mother Lucille, played by Randy Heller, moved from Newark, New Jersey to Recita, Los Angeles. Is it Recita, Los Angeles? I mean, I guess it's Recita, California.

I think it's just Recita, California. It's basically Los Angeles, because he's like palm trees. Their apartment's handyman is an eccentric, but kind and humble Okinawan immigrant named Mr. Miyagi, played by Pat Morita. I wanted to see more. Shocked by every single moment of the beginning. Truly.

It was long. What were you guys expecting? What were you expecting? Karate. Just immediate like, ah! Just an opening fight scene and they're like, hey kid, who are you? Yeah. I was like, wax on wax off.

That's all I had. That's all I had yes. Yeah, I was like wax on wax off. That's all I had. That's all I had. I did not know anything besides wax on wax off. And I was also like, had no idea where he was gonna meet Pat Morita. I had no clue. So him being, him working in the building. Did you know it took place in the United States

or did you think it took place? I knew it took place in the United States. Okay, okay. But nothing could have prepared me for a road trip and then them pushing the car. And then I loved that lady who was like, I'm from New Jersey too. Take a left, take a right, go up the stairs,

say hello to a troll and then you'll find the handyman. I loved her. I wanted to see more of her. I know and then I was kind of surprised. Everybody's so nice. We didn't get more of that guy who invited him to the party. He just like disappeared. I'm like, you kind of fucked his I know. And then I was surprised we didn't get more of that guy who invited him to the party. He just like disappeared. I'm like, you kind of fucked his whole life. Like the

kid from the apartment. That's true. That's true. That is true. Yeah. Well, maybe he just made better friends, maybe. Yeah. I always think that, yeah, but Mr. Miyagi is just such a mysterious, as a kid watching this, you wanted that person. Cause I always felt the most heartbreaking thing was that feeling of being bullied. And then the scenes with the mom after he's bullied.

When he comes home. Those are like watching it as a kid was very emotional. Cause you were like, oh, the shame of like your parents seeing you like that. And now that I'm a parent, those things are still very, they're very well done. And they're very effective. And that you wish you had, there's nothing more satisfying.

I remember seeing this movie in the theater than when the kids are beating him up and Mr. Miyagi comes up the fence and jumps down and beats him up. The place went nuts. Everybody started, it was everybody, I remember being like, I was six when this movie came out up. The place went nuts. Everybody started, it was everybody, I remember being like, I was six when this movie came out

and the whole place started cheering. Everybody was so stoked that the maintenance guy, who was on Happy Days, everybody knows him from Happy Days, like jumps down and just starts kicking the shit out of these bad guys. And it was like, thank God. And it is, it's like, it's such a crowd pleasing. You get like a massive crowd pleasing moment,

like kind of in the first third of the movie, which is like, I remember that saying something that the movies got you that, you know, well. Yeah, I feel like we're really missing out on moments like that in the movies now. Like when you go to it, we don't, obviously, most people don't even go to the movies anymore, it feels like, but having like that experience of sitting.

Well, I did last night. What would you see? You see I saw Wolverine and Deadpool. That's not the name of the movie crazy Wolverine Deadpool. The the the devil Wolverine and my friend Deadpool. But people were going nuts people like they did a lot of stuff for the fans. And yeah, people were clapping and cheering, and it made me happy.

No, that makes me so happy. Everyone's having a nice time. I love that. I think it's still a thing. It's still a thing. I mean, I just have to say, I don't go anywhere and I never do anything. So this is why I don't know that.

It probably has always been a thing. I just don't go outside. No, it'm not. It has changed a little bit with streaming and stuff, but that's a whole other... There's like 80 podcasts are about that. We don't need to talk about that. We don't need to get into streaming. Yeah.

Let's talk about, yeah, his Halloween costume, the shower. I mean, that was me. Oh my God. It's incredible. That's quintess, that was me. That's so incredible. Quintessentially 80s moment is so perfect. I loved it. It was so fun. And that was it was kind of like a yeah, you dreamed about that. Like that Elizabeth Shue, she became kind of like for, I think, a generation of dudes, especially in my day.

It was like the quintessential like her. And it was like, Elizabeth Shue and Phoebe Cates and Gremlins. It was like, first, so cute where you're like, wow, what if I meet a girl like that? It was very... But I will say, the hairstylist didn't like her. They really made her look older with that hair. She did look older, but that kind of was the hair,

wasn't it? It's the hair of the time. Yeah. So it's like they were aged up. I had babysitters who had that, yeah, babysitters. But I do think all those movies, that's the joke in it, that all the high school kids are played by like 30 year olds.

Yeah. Well, I did see that he is 22, Ralph Morita, I mean Ralph Morita, Ralph Macchio, when he was- The pat Morita when he was- And she was 20 I think. The pat Morita is 22. You know, yeah, she was in her 20s. So it's like, it makes sense, but he looked like a little kid.

He did look like a little kid. He's tiny, he's like- Just a little guy. When they're dancing, it is kind of like, hey buddy, leave that young lady alone. Oh my God, wait. What are you doing there? This is a total aside, but I just saw a clip on Instagram

that was from Dawson's Creek, which I loved growing up. And there's a relationship with Pacey and a teacher, it's Joshua Jackson and a teacher. He's 15, she's 39, and she's like pursuing him. It's so nasty. I remember watching that and being like, this is great. Like, you don't think anything's wrong with that.

It's so gross. That's the reason why I wasn't allowed to watch Dawson's Creek. My mother was like, that's not okay. And it's not okay. It's not. What does a 15 year old have for you? Nothing.

No. They don't even pay taxes. They don't know the struggle. Yeah. That's what you need in a partner. Yeah. I just want to know that they've struggled. Just a little.

Just a little. You're 15, but have you struggled? Okay, so at a beach party the following day, Daniel befriends Allie Mills, Elizabeth Shue, a high school cheerleader, drawing the attention of her arrogant ex-boyfriend, Johnny Lawrence, which is such a good name. William Zapka, who happens to be a black belt

and a top student at Cobra Kai Dojo. This particular dojo is known for teaching an aggressive form of karate. It was so aggressive. Johnny and his gang attack Daniel and give him a black eye. This was so fucked up. He also breaks the shit out of him. I was like, chill the fuck out, dude.

Like it was so intense and they're so 80s villains. It's like you see exactly where all of the tropes come from because it's like, I mean, it's that. Well, that's the, I mean, it's that. Well, that's the I mean, those this movie has the, you know, put them in a body bag just became a thing that people just said, and especially the way that guy says it, where he's like a little rat face. Put him in a body bag. And then sweep the leg was huge.

Sweep the leg was like calling for like playing dirty. You know, I became a term for plain dirty. When I was 19, I was in a sketch show at Second City with some older guys who I didn't know. And I somehow got put into this thing. And they it was all these references. I literally just got them all yesterday. I went, oh, that's why they said put them in a Bible. Oh, that's what I said.

They just like all came back to me. I was like, I never knew what was going on and they probably hated me, but yeah. I love thinking about 19 year old Lauren just being like, uh huh, a body bag. Oh yeah, I'll sweep legs. You can put me in a body bag. Whatever you say, you're 24.

You're a man. So, okay, Out of curiosity, Daniel visits Cobra Kai is dismayed to see Johnny leading at the front of the class. That was sad. This is devastating. I know he was so excited to go there. Later on, Johnny and his friends ride a bike and they bike him off the road, injuring him even more. Throwing his bike away at home, Daniel tells his mom he needs to learn karate

to be able to defend himself. After Daniel and his mom leave, it's revealed Mr. Miyagi overheard their conversation. Which is so sweet. He's like, I can help with this. I mean, it was so cute. So he can do it. I really do like those moments.

Those are like, when I rewatch this with my kids during the pandemic, those are the moments that I like really stuck with me. It's like when he comes home to his mom, I'm like, oh. I know, it's so- This is a nightmare. He's hiding it with the glasses. He's like, it's California, you wear glasses. And it's like, that was so sad.

She's like, are you on something? Go make me a calzone. Minute man. Yeah. Purple stuff, sunny day. So the next day, Daniel returns from school and finds his bike fixed on his doorstep. Daniel goes to Mr. Miyagi to ask if he did it, which he confirms.

Mr. Miyagi then shows Daniel his bonsai tree collection and how to trim the tree using the powers of trust, visualization, and concentration. I fucking love this, I loved it. I know. He's so nice and sweet to him. And I mean, I like that they don't reveal anything until later, but then when you know what's going on

with him and you're like, oh, he needs this father son dynamic and so does Daniel and it's really sweet. And we don't even talk about Daniel's father. We don't really know anything about that. Listen, he's still in Newark. Yeah, that's all you gotta know. Yeah, he's not there. He just, he's not there.

Yeah, but it is like, it was also cool seeing this as a kid, it was like anybody who was tough in movies was like, you know, a little crazy. Like that was the whole thing was that they were nuts. And it was so great seeing Mr. Miyagi. It was like the polar opposite was like, you can be tough, but also there was this like discipline to it. And he personified the discipline.

And it was like, he had this quiet confidence about him that you were just like, I want someone like this. You don't want Chuck Norris in your life. You just don't want that guy in your life, you know, because he's legitimately nuts. So that was great to see as a young kid. I was like, maybe Daniel's dad's like Joe Pesci and he's like often good fellas. Being bad. Yeah.

It's like your father, your father's being made and then he got assassinated. We gotta start over, Daniel. Daniel, your father killed Billy Batch. We gotta get out of here. Your name's Daniel now. Whatever it was before doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Your name is Daniel, but you're a good fella kid.

Who does karate? Ugh. So Johnny and his co-bring-in continue to bully Daniel. On Halloween, Daniel goes to the Halloween dance, dressed as a shower to avoid anyone recognizing him, which was Mr. Miyagi's idea, which was so cute. Yeah, it was so cute. Allie finds him and after showing a dance

inside the shower curtain, she convinces Daniel to venture out. I love how much she loves him from the start. There's something so sweet. This is like such a, when you're a kid, like that's like the dream. Like the cute girl is immediately into you. And then she's like,

I know that's him in that shower curtain. I don't even have, no one even has to tell me. She just goes over and opens. It's like, I know that's him in that shower curtain. No one even has to tell me. She just goes over and opens. It's like, this is so cute. I will say as a guy, I disliked this part because it gave you really false hope. You're like, well this is just how girls are. You show up, you say, I'm from out of town

and they're like, well I'm in love with you. I don't care what my past is, it's all about you skinny Italian boy. You know he's just tall. But this tiny man comes from Newark, New Jersey, and then is nice to her, because her ex-boyfriend is borderline abusive. Psychotic.

Yeah. He's kind of psychotic. He pushes her, he breaks her shit, he screams at her. Like he's, I would love Daniel too. I'd be like, oh my God, this man will take me to Rosita. We'll be poor, but he'll be nice to me. Yeah.

I know they all mocked his mom's car. I was like, that's so fucking rude. So rude. That's like crazy. That's crazy. That's like crazy. That's crazy. That was the last straw. Don't insult this nice woman. Not that he pushed her down and smashed all this stuff, but it's like-

But they insulted his mom? Mom's car? I can't believe you're right. The physical violence is worse. The physical violence, physical pushing her was pretty bad, but the mom's car, they can't help that. But I do feel like that was like an 80s villain thing

was that it was all very black and white and it taught you as a kid, like bullies are just, it's like Stephen King books. It's like the bad guys, it's like they are only bad. They beat, and they see a dog, they kick it to death. There's no, there's not a moment. There's not a, there's not a, a three dimension anywhere near that.

It's just like, I exist to be mean. And then at the last second, I'm going to be nice. For no reason. I know, I know he throws it it for half a second. 180. I couldn't believe it. 180. You deserve this. I was like, bullshit.

Fuck you. One second ago, you wanted him dead. But OK. That's all you needed to do was beat him in a tournament. And then they'd be like, I was wrong for pushing my girlfriend. Yeah, I didn't like it. Yeah. OK, so didn't like it. Okay, so in the boys bathroom, Daniel sprays Johnny, who's dressed up as a skeleton with a water hose as payback.

Johnny is gang. This was like my favorite moment. It was so fun. That was ballsy. They kind of showed that Daniel wasn't afraid. He wasn't like a pushover, which I liked. I feel like they showed it like he always got up. Like he always got up unless he was like too hurt.

And I loved that because he was like, I'm not giving up, I just don't have the tools in my belt yet. So then a bunch of skeletons chase Daniel down and brutally beat him until Mr. Miyagi hops a fence and easily defeats all of them. I really did love that part because I was like, what is Mr. Miyagi doing?

Was he stalking Daniel? How did he just get there? It's so well done. That scene is so good too. When he appears and he starts climbing the fence and he's over the guy is like one of the best. I will, I get very excited. There's certain moments in movies

that I remember when he came up like that and the audience just went crazy. Yes. And it was just one of the best moments. I love that. So anytime I see it, I get a little chill, just because I'm like, oh my God, I remember being in movies and everything.

Oh, I love that. That's so cool. It really is a great scene. And it made me like, love Mr. Miyagi even more. I was like, oh my God, he's like a guardian angel. He's so sweet. I know, he's so amazing. And then I was wondering about karate, because I don't know about karate,

but then he just pops over and he's like, like to their stomach and then just done. Like it's just like, like, are you just like, you're just out? Like what happens? Like, does anyone know? I think it's like, they give you a nice hard chop. You're done. I think he knows exactly where to hit them too, or something like, and how hard.

So it's just like, if one hit there, we'll just drop a person. But somehow, I mean, when you watch it now though, I remember watching it with the kids, and when Ralph Macho's getting beat up by them, my kids got really upset, because he gets the living shit kicked out of him. And you're like, well, he wouldn't just have a black eye and they keep being like,

Trash. But I mean, it's so brutal. But it helps for the movie because you're like, oh, my God, I want him to get revenge so bad. You know, it makes the Miyagi scene. They couldn't just give him a talking to like, we're going to beat you up. You know, like they need to like, kick the shit out of them, you know, to feel it, I guess. It was it did really help build that tension and it makes it so much more exciting. But it's I don't feel like people would do that now in a movie.

Like, I don't think you'd make a kids movie where the kids getting beaten up like that, like so intense. Like, yeah, maybe not. Say they'll be like, hey hey man, you're lame. And he'd be like... He gets bad Instagram comments. We're going to follow you and Mr. Miyagi's like, I'm going to follow you. And it's like, oh, dang. So Daniel's so amazed by this moment and he asks Mr. Miyagi to teach him karate.

Although Mr. Miyagi declines, he agrees to accompany Daniel to Cobra Kai to resolve the conflict. They meet the sensei, John Kreese, Martin Cobb, an ex special forces Vietnam vet who callously dismisses the peace offer. I'm like, these are children, by the way. Yes, I was like, you're an adult and you're being a maniac. You're absolutely wild. So shitty. Mr. Miyagi then proposes that Daniel enter the upcoming

under 18 All Valley Karate Championship Tournament to compete against Kreese's students on equal terms. He then requests that the bullying cease while Daniel trains. Kreese agrees to the terms, but Warrenson of Daniel does not show up for the tournament. The harassment will continue for both of them. Which is so wild. This adult is like, after the tournament, we're gonna fucking kill both of them. Which is so wild. This adult is like, after the tournament,

we're gonna fucking kill both of you. Like, it's so nuts. Yeah, that's kinda, yeah, cause if someone said that, in reality, you would just go, well now I'm gonna go to the police. These people are threatening me. I'm like, Daniel has so much pressure. He doesn't know who he is at all.

And now he's gonna be in a tournament. At all, he knows nothing. Okay, that's terrible. That was kind of a weird thing. It is like if you don't go to the tournament, we're going to burn your house down. You know, everything. And you're like, well, then why don't you just like go,

well, no, you can't say that to me. That's insane. In reality, a lawyer would show up and be like, did you say that you're going to beat them up? Are you out of your mind? My little, like, Amazon pop-up thing had a little fact about... So the actor who played Johnny was like,

in that he decided a backstory for his character that his sensei was his, like, father figure, and he didn't have a good father figure, so he was, like, really... So he gave himself a backstory to make that feel, like, more. Because there really was not much there. Yeah, there really, it was a very superficial thing of him just being like, I'm tough behind him. So I kind of liked that he did that.

I liked that too, because to me, I was like, his backstory is he beats his mom up, he beats his siblings up, he's just like killing all the time. He obviously had trouble. He's just in bed, he's just asleep like this. Yeah, sleeping with, yeah, his fist Yeah, sleeping with his fist clenched. His jaw clenched. It's just like fighting people in his dreams.

Yeah, there's just, there was no school therapist back then. No guidance counselor. What's going on with you? What happened? Why are you guys dressing up like skeletons and chasing a new shit? So Daniel's training starts with waxing and washing several dirty cars. Later on, Lucille drives Daniel and Allie

on their first date to the golf and stuff since he doesn't have his license yet. Daniel picks back up his training by sanding the wooden floors in Mr. Miyagi's garden as well as painting his fence and house. What? How does Mr. Miyagi have such a big house and all these? I don't do it. Did they explain that? And I missed it. Yeah. I wasn't sure if he was his landlord and not just the handyman.

Cause I was like, maybe he was just, he's a landlord. And then he has this little office that he makes these trees in, but he has. Yeah. I always, I always thought I always thought he owned that property or something. That was my... That he probably had a couple of apartment buildings in the Recita area. That was my thought. That's your back story.

But also, it's like, yeah, I mean, it was the 80s too, so it's like the person just can't have a normal house. Right, right. They're seeing lost boys and they move into this house and you're like, this is the coolest, craziest house I've ever seen. Every house was huge, you know? I was like, all right. But yeah, yeah, that was my,

when I was a kid, I was like, oh, well, he's doing well for himself. He owns a lot of property. So maintenance pays a lot. OK. Well, he's the king of Recita. That's nice. When Daniel becomes frustrated with his training, Mr. Biagi demonstrates that the repetition of these chores has helped Daniel learn defensive blocks through muscle memory.

I loved this scene. That's the most famous thing of the whole movie, and I remember that blowing my mind, because you really did not understand why he was doing all that. And then when he's like, I quit and he goes, ah! And he tries to hit him and he does everything. Again, you were like, oh my gosh,

this is the greatest movie ever made. That is so smart. That is good. That's a good movie. That's a good, that's good writing. Love it. He practices balance by standing on the ledge of a robo while Mr. Miyagi fishes, as well as doing karate poses on top of a log at the beach.

I really like those little moments. Me too. I don't know how much of that is even true, but I've never seen that really in other kung fu movies where people are cleaning. They were just making up their own rules. It's fun. Cleaning and raking and then it's, you know.

But yes, I don't know how much of that is real, but it works in the movie as a kid. You're like, oh, and I think parents loved it because they could get their kids to do chores and they think, oh, I'm the kid. You'd be like, oh, my parents teach me how to defend myself. Yeah. I mean, my whole life I heard wax on wax off. I had no idea what that meant.

And when it happened, I was like, oh, it's wax on wax off. And then I still didn't know where it was going. Nope, truly did it. Yeah. It's a really fun way to watch a movie. Painting the fence. Yeah. I was doing that in my house. I was just moving my arms up and down. I was like, I can't fight.

Okay, tired of waiting for Ally outside her country club dance for their date, Daniel appears into the ballroom and sees Johnny kissing her on the dance floor. Johnny spots him in the kitchen door swing open with a clatter revealing Daniel on the floor with spaghetti all over him. Little bit of New Jersey. The entire ballroom erupts with laughter

and Deanna leaves right before Ally punches Johnny in the face for his behavior. Johnny sucks. He assaults her. Johnny's disgusting and her parents didn't care. So that was gross. So she's dancing with her dad and then her mom's like, you're dancing with the most handsome man.

Can I have him? I was like, I hate that. And then the villain comes up and starts dancing with her. She doesn't want to. And then he kisses her against her will. She punches him in his face, which was amazing. And then her mom's like, it's almost like she wasn't like allowed to say more lines,

like as the actor, cause she was like, up, up, up, up. But I'm like, you need to say something. Yeah, like they were like, no, no, no, anything else we've got to give her a bump. So they were like, no, no, no, anything else we've got to give her a bump. So no, no, no, no, no. Just a reaction. You're staying against it. No, just a reaction please.

And no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't move out. Don't run after her and try to help her. And when he gets knocked over with the spaghetti, I was like, that's so eighties, like to be like in a pile of spaghetti for some reason. And then people would laugh at him from that to his very 80s.

Nobody has ever laughed at anybody. Adults would not laugh at a kid. Like they're just evil. That was always in 80s movies where it's like, rich white adults are evil who go to like country clubs are just evil people. Yeah, so they just laugh and like, look at him, the accounting boy with the spaghetti all over.

No, I didn't like, yeah, that stuff is all, yeah. But also just Johnny's energy, like is anybody just noticing his energy just at all? Like at the dance, he's like, hey, how's it going? Like, no one's talking that at all. No, but he's like, coked up. He's definitely coked up. No one's talking that he's got massive issues.

I think now people wouldn't even let him in the door. They're like, okay, there's this guy, he's like crying. He just said he's crying and he doesn't know why and he's like freaking out over here. Let's have him dance with our daughter. You know, it just makes no sense. Yeah, because then it just sucks. I was so glad he clocked the shit out of him though.

Me too. That was also like, that was just like a great little moment. And then Daniel didn't see any of it because he was too busy wiping tomato sauce out of his eyes. So he's like, she loves him. I'm like, ugh. Oh my God.

Yeah, that's also in all the eighties movies is just like the main character loving the girl but thinking like seeing the wrong thing and yeah. I'm like, she clearly loves you. She spends so much time with you. Loves Daniel and Johnny. She didn't make funny your Halloween costume. She didn't do anything.

That right there just shows like, she likes you out of the gate. And her friends don't understand it. All her friends are like, can you just die? Like they literally hate him. That is what one of her friends said. Can you just die? I was like, oh my God, girl.

Everyone's angry in this town. Everyone is so mad in Recita. And those girls, they're like, he keeps getting the shit beat out of him, but he won't die. So let's laugh at him. Yeah, it's like, get him out of here. He's a cockroach.

No one wants you in Recita. Get it through your brain. And the mayor of Recita shows up. Get the fuck outta here. Why won't you die? Don't you get it? We don't like you. You can beat whoever you want.

Yeah. But yeah, I don you want. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's not like, yeah. Yeah, that was the thing about this movie was like, yeah, seen as a kid, it really made just like dating seem terrifying. You know? Yeah. Like it just seemed, it just seemed that if you made one person mad, you made, like, an entire city mad. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, they were all linked, and they all were going to be against you. But it works for the movie, because you do feel like everything is against him, and it's just him and Mr. Miyagi versus everybody. And I get... But, yeah, I don't think you could do it like that now.

I just think people would be like, -"Give me a break." -"Yeah." But I feel like what's interesting thinking. I just think people would be like, give me a break. Yeah, but I feel like it's interesting thinking about these movies and how they affect you. Growing up, there were so many movies where the girl likes the popular guy, but he's mean, and then she's supposed to be with the nerd. And I watched all of those,

and I feel like I still just like the popular guy at school. And they didn't like me, but I would be like, I love that asshole. So you would like Johnny? Yeah, I would be like. Yeah, you would like a Johnny? You would be like, I love that asshole. She would like Johnny's. Yeah, you would like a Johnny? You'd be like, but look at him. I wouldn't like Johnny. I'm in love.

No, cause she doesn't like him in this. It's like whoever the girl likes is what I'm like, oh, that's what I should be doing. He smashed my radio. I like him. He threw me in the sand. He's cute. Something about him. He's mysterious.

I just want to see what makes him tick. Don't worry. It's nothing. Yeah, yeah. But you have to learn that the hard way. Okay, so here comes my favorite part, though. Mr. Miyagi drunkenly opens up to do- This is your favorite part? Well, because it's the- not my favorite, but it's my emotional- I felt very like, oh my God, Mr. Miyagi drunkenly opens up to Daniel. Is this your favorite part? Well, because it's the, not my favorite, but it's my emotional, I felt very like, oh my

God, Mr. Miyagi, I can't believe they gave him this depth. I was so shocked. I know. Mr. Miyagi drunkenly opens up to Daniel about his life, including the tragic loss of his wife and child, in childbirth and his child and the Manzanar internment camp while he was serving with the 442nd Infantry Regiment during World War II in Europe. Daniel discovers Mr. Miyagi received the Medal of Honor when Mr. Miyagi falls asleep drunkenly. And he's kind of like, no, no, no, he doesn't want to talk about it.

He reads all these articles where he finds these papers that were saved that explain what happened. I'm like, this is the saddest fucking backstory for Mr. Miyagi. I can't believe this is what he's working with. Like, I'm like, this is terrible. But also he was holding his backstory in his hand as he fell asleep. He felt like his backstory. Yeah, that's true.

He was like, I hope nobody sees this. Honk shoo, honk shoo. It says backstory on it and it's like a notebook. He's like, before I pass out, let me just get my backstory real quick. You're right. They do kind of shoehorn it in. I like to read my backstory to fall asleep.

Before I go to bed every night, got to remember where I came from. I suggest you try this, Daniel. Daniel falls asleep holding a paper that's like, I moved from New Jersey. I moved from New Jersey, pretty girl, ouch. Yeah, cause why would he be reading that over and over again? It's like, he definitely knows what happened. And like, for sure. How would we know?

You're right. But it makes him so, it gives so much to this character. So it is amazing that they give this to him. It gives a lot of depth. Yeah. Yeah. And then it gives so much importance to like the, the Gi that he gives to Daniel and stuff. So it's all so sweet.

This was so sweet. So on Daniel's 18th birthday, Mr. Miyagi gives him a karate gi, his late wife made for the tournament and one of his own cars, which is just so nice. That was so generous. When Daniel, it was so generous, but then he has a hundred cars, so was it generous?

So generous. Uh, when Daniel confesses he's nervous about the tournament, so generous. Just so generous. I was like, give him a car. It's like, he's such a mom, like. Mm, so generous. It's like, such a mom, like. So generous. Well, he is being so generous.

You go over there and say thank you. He gave you his dead wife made this. Oh my God, that is so generous. You do not keep this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You take this right back. Too much not keep this. You do not keep this. You're not keeping this. No, no, no, no, no, no. You take this right back. Too much, too much. This is so generous.

But I actually felt like Daniel really, Daniel really understood that with the gi because he was like, I understand if you want this patch back at the end. Like I was like, that was really, that was very thoughtful of Daniel to not just assume it's his now. He understood the meaning.

You see like they're the only nice people in the town. Yes, you're right. Rosita's just full of the meanest people, and they're like, oh my God, you're nice. You care about me. Yeah. So Mr. Miyagi reminds him the importance of personal balance, so that martial arts training

is as much about training the spirit as the body. Daniel tells Mr. Miyagi he is the best friend he's ever had, and Mr. Miyagi goes, you're okay too. And I loved it. Daniel drives to the golf and stuff to find Allie and apologize. They kiss and drive off in his nuker. I know, and she's so into it.

She's like, how fast is this thing going? He's like, let's not find out. Let's not find out. I wondered if that was improvised. He's got a funny little thing. What's also crazy, you know, she's at the end of Back to the Future. She's like, and so that was the other thing growing up

where it was like, man, she's like moved on and gone back to the future with Marty McFly. Like as a kid, I was like, Danielson blew that somehow and now she's with Marty McFly. And then Adventures in Babysitting, which I did enjoy. At the end of the day. And then leaving Las Vegas and you were like, okay, she lost it.

She had a tough time and- She's the same person. Became an alcoholic. She became a massive alcoholic. Oh, she was in Cocktail with also Tom Cruise. She's in Cocktail. We've never seen that. Should we do a Tom Cruise season?

We probably could. I think you should do an Elizabeth Shoe season because she's in some of these great movies, but Cocktail is pretty terrible. I mean, it's pretty fascinating. It's a fascinatingly bad movie. Cocktail is pretty crazy. But I remember seeing Cocktail as a kid because she don't see her,

but she takes her shirt off in front of Tom Cruise and you see just her bare back. I remember seeing that. So much of that. And my kid, and I, as my kid, mine was like, wait a minute, this is like, I can't handle this. No, but she's, that's, you know,

that's Daniel Son's girlfriend. No. No. So protective of Daniel. I was like, no. Does he know this is happening? Like, you did what? You cheated on Daniel?

After the tournament? After the tournament, some bartender? Some bartender. So now it's the day of the tournament and I'm honestly nervous for him because I'm just like, he's not going to be good. Mr. Miyagi tells the person at the check-in desk that Daniel's a black belt. I was like, okay. And he can compete against Tomer Kai. He passes Ali a black belt to sneak him in.

That was so cool how he saw it. He kind of saw it in a bag and he like tricked her and kind of was like, look over here. That was cute. Daniel surprises the audience and competitors kind of saw it in a bag and he like tricked her and kind of was like, look over here. That was cute. Daniel surprises the audience and competitors at the tournament by reaching the semi-finals. He was, I was very surprised. Now, of course I understand it's a movie

where it's gonna have a happy ending probably and whatever. But I was still like, that's kind of amazing that he's, he starts off really bad. Like he's a total wuss. He's like running away. Yeah. Yeah, he's scared. And that's like, and those cutaways to Mr. Miyagi

are so funny where he's like, Oh my God, what have I done? You know? And it has a very famous song, which is, you're the best around. No, was that from, is that famous from this? Cause I was feeling like that. Yes. And then that became like,

just became like a movie. It's like Eye of the Tiger or something. It just became a thing that people did over and over again. Wait, what's the Eye of the Tiger from? What movie is that from? That was, wasn't that, which one is that, Rocky? Oh, is that Rocky? Rocky II.

I think it's Rocky II. It's not the Rocky we watched. What's the one in the Rocky we watched? Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. That's the- The training montage. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, It's in Rocky 1. It's just a Rocky thing. The Rocky theme, the regular Rocky theme. What's that? Rocky is doing a thing.

He's gonna get, he's gonna go. He's gonna get. Rocky did it. Rocky did it. Adrian's gonna come. That's our new favorite thing. We love it. So, okay, Johnny. We're new to common things.

We are. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah, that, ha, ha. Rockies, do it. Adrian's a nerd, but Rockies do it. He's got two turtles named Cuff and Link. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Oh, Lauren, I meant to text this to you.

Cuff and Link are, they've passed. They died? What the fuck? Of what? I'm sorry. I don't know. I think they died of natural causes. And we saw a picture of them living happily with Sylvester.

So I'm not really pleased about this, but it was a long time ago that he made the movie. So I guess it would make sense. Yeah, it was the eighties. I mean, I, I see like 30 years ago. 1976, he made the Rocky the first. Like 40 years ago. Turtles live for fucking were done. It was like 30 years ago. 76, he made the Rocky the first. Like 40 years ago. 1976, yeah. Turtles live for fucking ever though, it's crazy.

Well back to the Karate Kid. So Johnny advances to the finals. Kreese, Kreese, is that how you say his name? Instructs his second best student, Bobby, the least vicious of Daniel's, Tormentors to disable Daniel. Bobby reluctantly does so, severely injuring Daniel's knee

and getting himself disqualified. This was so fucked up. It was so sad and the kid's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And it's like. They made me do it. Yeah. The guys suddenly grow a conscious

at the, right at the wrong moment. They really do, they all feel bad right when they're doing the shit that's like insane. And that also gave me a false thing as a kid where I was like, Oh boys, when they do something bad, you will immediately feel bad. Yeah. And that's not true. And that's not true.

No, don't break your leg and they stay excited. Don't go, Oh man, I'm so sorry. No, they're like, I'll fuck you up again tomorrow. No, I did kind of wonder. I did kind of wonder if maybe he wasn't going to win. Maybe there would be an interesting ending to this, where it'd be like a learning thing where he wouldn't win. Like Rocky, because he didn't win.

Right. And the director, now that we know it's the same director, maybe he wanted to do that again. But no. This is my thing, you know, I make sure they don't win. But they learn something. You know, but they get the girl at the end. I don't know. This is my thing. You do what you want, though. Yeah, he should the girl at the end. I don't know. I mean, that's just my thing. You do what you want though.

Yeah, he should have had at the end, it should have been Daniel being like, Ali! Ali! Yeah. Oh, I would have died if that happened. It would have died. Ali!

Ali! So he's in the locker room and the physician tells Daniel that he cannot continue and Daniel believes if he quits his tormentors Will have gotten the best of him So we can he convinces mr. Miyagi to use a pain suppression technique to help him continue which we saw earlier Which was really cool and Daniel returns to fight as Johnny is about to be declared the winner by default The match is a seesaw battle with neither able to break through the others defense. It's very intense Then it's very intense. And then, it's very intense.

And then the match is halted when Daniel uses a scissor leg technique to trip Johnny, delivering a blow to the back of his head and giving Johnny a nosebleed. Kreese directs Johnny to sweep the leg, to sweep Daniel's injured leg. An unethical move. Johnny is horrified at the order, but reluctantly agrees.

I know, horrified but does it. Yeah, which is so wild. I was like, what? As the match resumes, and the score is tied two to two, Johnny seizes Daniel's leg and deals a vicious elbow doing further damage. This is wild.

Daniel, standing with difficulty, assumes the crane stance, a technique he observed Mr. Miyagi performing on a beach. Johnny lunges toward Daniel, who jumps and executes a front kick to Johnny's face, scoring the winning point of becoming the new champion. Having gained newfound respect for his nemesis, performing on a beach, Johnny lunges toward Daniel, who jumps and executes a front kick to Johnny's face, scoring the winning point and becoming the new champion. Having gained newfound respect for his nemesis,

Johnny presents the trophy to Daniel himself as an enthusiastic crowd carries Daniel while Miyagi looks on proudly. And then it goes, credits. They're like, we're out, goodbye. So fat. But I think that's all you need. Like, I don't need to know anything else.

I'm just like, he won. I agree. I actually rewound it. Cause I was like, let me see how, why this is so abrupt. And I went, I actually love this. I watched the ending twice. I was like, I loved it. Well, you're emotional.

Emotionally, you're just like this. And then it's this release that he won. And then they're like, now get out. You know? So you walk, you leave the theater like, leave the theater like going insane. You're like, if it just happened, you know what I mean? It's like, if they had gone to him

with playing mini golf again or whatever, you would have had a chance to calm down. But instead, I just remember coming out and the light hitting us and being with my dad and my sister and I was like, ah! You were just, you couldn't believe it. You were just like, he won, he won. You were just so stoked.

That's so cute. Yeah, I love that. It really is such a good out for the movie, because it's like, boom, we're out. Also, they don't do the freeze frames anymore to end movies. They used to do this all the time, like Kim smiling and then the freeze frame. They just don't do that anymore. They to do that constantly where it was like,

I miss it. And then like credits. Yeah, I love those freeze frames. He was like, yep. I loved it because he said sweep the leg and then he does it. So you're like, it really does, it builds in a really great way because he's already broken his leg. So you think, oh, he's gonna come back

and do the crane thing and win. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. He's gonna hurt him again. And then you're like, well, now he's really fucked. Like it does a really good job of like, I again, watching this with my kids, I got caught up in it again where I was like, oh God, I forgot that he like hurts his leg again.

I forgot about that. And he looks like he's in pain. I thought it might be like a bait and switch thing where he was kind of like limping and he was like, I'm actually fine, but then he wasn't. No, but he was really hurt. So I was like, oh, he's actually fine. Yeah.

Well, you guys haven't seen Karate Kid 2, huh? No. Okay, so Karate Kid 2 picks up, and this was, blew my mind. Saw that in the theater again with my dad and my sister. Picks up the second after karate kid one ends. Whoa! What a fun way to do that! It picks up the minute it ends. Oh, you gotta watch that.

So when I was a kid it was like I got to see like what happens five seconds later you know what I mean? So it's pretty great. Was Hillary Swank a karate kid? She was the next karate kid. That's amazing. Five seconds later, you know what I mean? That's great. So it's pretty great. I love that. Was Hillary Swank a karate kid? She was the next karate kid. Maybe I've seen that. I like vaguely remember that. I remember that.

Yeah, the next karate kid. So I think they made three with Ralph Macchio, but I only saw the first two. And the second one had a really famous song to the Peter Cetera song. No, I'm not gonna sing it, but I'll play it. You know, you come on. You know, that's perfect. Please stop.

Please stop. Please stop. Don't do that. Okay. Well, let's talk about the reception of this film. The film was a huge success. It grossed $100 million in the US and Canada. It was the highest grossing film of 1984

and Hollywood's biggest sleeper hit of the year and holds an 89% of Rotten Tomatoes. People love the film and I understand why. People loved it. It was so good. The Crowdy Kid launched the career of Macchio who had turned into a teen idol. It revitalized the acting career of,

how do I say his last name? Marita. Pat Marita. Marita. Pat Marita. Previously known for a comedic role as Arnold on Happy Days, he was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for his performance

as Mr. Miyagi. And then he reprised the role in three subsequent films and Macchio returned for two. Isn't it great? I mean, he's great in this, but I'm like, this kind of movie would be nominated for an Oscar? So the 80s was like that.

So like, Marisa Tomei and my cousin Vinny, I think won best supporting for it. And now you'd be like, well, that wouldn't be an Oscar movie, but her performance is great. And same with the Goldberg and Ghost. No, but it's great. I want more things like that at the Oscars.

I'm like, give me two. Me too. Yeah. Yeah, there's like, I think the reason I have such the Oscars. I'm like, give me a try, kid. Yeah. Yeah, there's like, I think the reason I have such a weird thing with award shows is I was a kid and I saw Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. And I told my dad, I was like, oh, so John Candy's gonna win

an Oscar for that, right? Cause I was like crying at the end of it here. And then I went and I watched the Oscars, I was like, oh, he's not even nominated. And my dad, I remember being like, well, it was a comedy. And it was like Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas for Wall Street one. And I was like, who fucking cares about greed?

Comedic acting is important. We do not get enough representation at the Oscars. John Candy in Plains, Chains, and Automobiles is like an unbelievable performance in my opinion. Never seen it. So, oh man, it's so good. He's so good in it. I just saw something about that they cut, I think I was watching the Steve Martin documentary

and he was talking about that movie and he has like all the scripts for all the movies he's done like bound on his bookshelf, it's pretty cool. And then he was talking about how there was a really long monologue that John Candy is supposed to do that they actually cut down, but it was like so moving that he said it was, he was talking about it.

He was like how it made him cry so much when John Candy did that. And when they were acting in real life. And then in the movie, it's like cut down to a really small moment, but it's still really moving. But- Is it the, I like me speech? I think it's where he's sitting on the bed

and Steve's like looking at him and yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's Is it the I like me speech? I think it's where he's sitting on the bed and Steve's like looking at him and yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's like saying. I like me. Yeah, I know. Stop it. Okay, here's a little trivia for ya. The yellow classic automobile that Daniel Polish is in the famous wax on wax off trading scene,

which he gets as a gift, was actually given to Ralph Macchio by the producer and he still owns it. It's a 1948 Ford super deluxe. That's so cool. I love that. That's sweet. That's nice. Bill, are you unmoved? That's generous. I just like how generous, I was waiting for the word generous to come up. It is generous. it's really thoughtful. It's very thoughtful and generous to give that to him.

Very thoughtful and generous. That is so nice. Ralph, you go over and thank that producer. You go and thank him. Go and thank him. And we are gonna write him a letter. We are going to write him a thank you card and send him a gift.

You find out what his wife likes. Here's some more trivia. Extras were so caught up in the tournament scene that they would boo William Zapka even when the cameras were not rolling. Zapka's mom was in the crowd and kept trying to tell people that he was very nice in real life. That's so funny.

I thought you were about to say that she was also booing her son. She was like, boo, he is abusive. Fuck you. That's hilarious. Fuck you. Okay, we need to take another quick time out. We'll be back with more Correct Kid at Ready Break. And ready, break.

We're back. Okay, the newcomers draft. It's time to recast this movie with present day actors. Who do we want to be in this movie now? Who's, I always put stranger things kids. Well, they did it with, well, the Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan. Yes. This movie has been done so many times.

It's almost like there is no room to do it again. They probably will do it again. Yeah, Jackie Chan is Mr. Miyagi's pretty awesome. I never saw that movie, but he's awesome. I mean, he's amazing. Yeah, he's great. I love that. Maybe I'll watch that too. But Ralph Macchio, but yeah, I's amazing. Yeah, he's great. I love that. Maybe I'll watch that too.

But Ralph Macchio, but yeah, I get it like Finn Wolfhardt really. Yeah, we totally be there. Oh yeah. Yeah, be Finn, yeah. And then being like, oh. It'd be. Oh.

Oh. And then who's, yeah, who would need as Elizabeth Shue's part? It's Finn Wolfhardt. I have Milly Bumley Brown. It's Finn Wolfhame. Millie Millie Bobby Brown. Millie Bobby Brown, yeah, put him in. Put him in.

Or it's Timothy Chalamet. Timothy Chalamet. Timothy Chal-a-thine. Chal-a-thine. Okay, now it's time for the kiss cam. Name the best smooch from the movie or a smooch that you wish you saw. We had a good kiss in this with two of them.

There was the super aggressive kiss and there was a super nice kiss. So we got best of both worlds. Yes. Yeah. So now it's time for the scoreboard, time for reviews. So once again, this season we're reading reviews from Letterboxd and we're giving the film

a one sentence review ourselves and a star rating And if you don't know what the fuck letterboxd is It's a social platform where people can write reviews of the films and you can follow our show on letterboxd at newcomers This is a review from Jessie. She gave it four stars or wait is that four? Yep, that's four just goes to show with the right teacher, it only takes two months of training to win a karate tournament. Yeah, that's true. That's funny. Who would like to go first?

Also Anya and Allie will be giving their one sentence reviews as well. Would anyone like to go first? I'll go first. I wanna give this movie five stars. This movie rocked my fucking socks off. I loved it so much. I wanna say best 80s movie I completely missed

for some reason, I wanna learn karate now. And I also wanna learn how to trim a bonsai tree from this. I thought it was, I would give it five stars. Just also solely because it, I just, I have so many childhood memories of watching this. It was a very indelible theater experience. I don't know if you guys had those, we just remember exactly what the theater was,

where you saw it, how you felt after it was one of those movies for me. And I think it's a very generous movie, you know? I think. I do actually. I'm very generous. Everyone's a generous movie. Generous. Wait, what's your star rating?

Oh wait, you said five stars. He said five stars. Yeah, I give it a five. I am also gonna give said five stars. He said five stars. Yeah, I think he said five. I am also gonna give it five stars. I love this movie from the fucking beginning to the end. The romance was there, the bullies were there. Ralph Macchio is a dream boy for me. I really like him, specifically in My Cousin Vinny,

but also in this. I can't believe I haven't seen this movie. What a nice treat. I'll probably watch it again. Me too. I wanna watch the second haven't seen this movie. What a nice treat. I'll probably watch it again. Me too. I want to watch the second one now that I know. Me too. Well, I'm going to watch the first one

into the second one and have a nice time. Yeah. You can have a whole Lord of the Rings style. Oh, Lord of the Rings. It's one long thing. Movie. Oh yeah, you guys watched Lord of the Rings, right? We watched all of Lord of the Rings and we even listened to a radio play of Lord of the Rings.

It was hellish. We really dove deep and we wanted to do anything else. I watched Fellowship of the Ring with my kids, and I was like, oh, I remember loving these movies when they came out, and I think it was just because my friends and I would go to midnight screenings, and there was Dorky and people were cheering and stuff. That's fun. And I watched it was just because my friends and I would go to midnight screenings and there was dorky and people were cheering and stuff. And I watched it with my kids.

And then one of my daughters goes, we watched Fellowship of the Ring and she goes, this is kind of the same scene over and over again. Thank you. She's right. She's right. She's right. That's hilarious.

I was like, oh man, I don't remember this. Yeah, so it is amazing, like the audience experience could really, you know, paint the view of a movie. Yes. Ali and Anya, you want to give your reviews really quick? All right. Daniel, I'm going to give it five stars. Daniel LaRusso has it all.

Charisma, uniqueness, nerve, talent. He's serving. Charisma, uniqueness, nerve, talent. He's serving charisma, you're serving. He's serving. I am serving. That's the Italian. He's walking down. He left no grunt.

I am serving. Talent, nerve, Italian. I'm serving Italy. I'm serving Italy. I'm serving. Leave me alone. Yeah, I still live with my mom. But I'm yeah, sure. I still live with my mom in an apartment, but I'm my shit together.

I will also give it five stars. It's my first time watching it. Actually, I somehow missed it. They used to make movies that were good. It's just like, they did it all the time and they don't make them like that anymore. And also short. Yeah.

Each scene of this movie you need, you can't take a scene out of it and it won't work. So each scene moves the thing forward and so many things I watch now, I'm like, you could lose all this, you could lose all this. I don't know what it is, if it's like no one's watching it or like agents are being like, leave them alone.

Let them do whatever they want. But it's just like every movie I watch now, you know, you go to see it in the, you know, you go see it when it's theaters where the people come out before and they're like, all right, so you're about to watch so-and-so. It is three hours and 45 minutes. You're like, why?

You're like, oh no, I live here now? Yeah, I'm like, oh yeah, I live here now? Oh great. I guess we're all roommates. But yeah, it like, that was what's fun about watching a lot of those movies. Yeah, it used to be like a craft. Yeah, to like each scene has to move the story forward. If not, it has to go and it does.

It does. You know, it works. It builds to that ending so well. And then it's out. Yeah, everything is so earned. Right. It's an emotional experience. We really don't need,

and of course I'm sure they do it in the second movie, but we don't need to see him be like, I won. And then the girl's like, no, we don't really need to live in that. I'll say this, the opening of the second movie starts with a fight. What? A fight? Okay.

But he wins. But, and we were told there would be no more. Well, we gotta see what happens now. Oh no. I gotta, I gotta see it. Okay, well, it's time to wrap up, but. Bill, do you have anything you wanna plug? No. You're fine.

I just saw, oh, I just saw a great play for O'Mary. Yeah, you're doing great. You don't have to plug anything. We know what You're fine. I just saw, oh, I just saw a great place for a little Mary. Yeah, you're doing great. You don't have to plug anything. We know what you're doing. Go see O'Mary. If you're in New York, go see O'Mary. Oh my God, I wanna see it so fucking funny. O'Mary is so fucking funny.

It is so funny. You saw it too? Yes, it does. I took my kids to it. It's great. And we were dying laughing. My nine-year-old daughter had a lot of questions afterward. I have to see that. That is so funny. Dad, can we just clarify some things?

This is Cole Eskola's Broadway show, for people who might not know, where Cole plays Mary Todd Lincoln, and it's unhinged in the best way possible. It's one of the funniest things I've seen in a very, very long time. I thought, I've not laughed that hard in a really way possible. It's one of the funniest things I've seen in a very, very long time. I thought, I've not laughed that hard in a really long time.

Same. So, go see it. I gotta see that. Okay, well, if you're listening to this, please write a review for Newcomers on Apple podcasts and rate us on Spotify, five stairs only. We'll be back next week with Bend It Like Beckham. What?

Never seen that. Never seen that. Oh wait, is David Beckham in it? That's a fuck that movie. Is David Beckham. What? Never seen that. Never seen that. Oh wait, is David Beckham in it? That's a fucked up movie. Is David Beckham in that? He's in it, but it's a really fucked up movie. Is it? Is it like Beckham?

Yeah, it is. What? Okay. Whoa. No idea. I never seen that. I can't wait to see this fucked up movie, Bend It Like Beckham.

I've never seen it, I've never seen it, I've never seen it. I was like seen it, I've never seen it. I was like, what harrowing movie are we gonna watch about David Beckham? Oh, yeah, you guys should watch it in the morning. Don't watch it at night. Can't go to sleep after watching Benda Like Beckham. Make sure you see friends afterwards.

Get out of the house. All right, well, Bill, thank you so much for being here. This was so fun. Yes, thank you, this was great. Everybody say newcomers on three. One, well, Bill, thank you so much for being here. This was so fun. Yes, thank you. This was great. Everybody say newcomers on three. One, two, three. Newcomers! Newcomers!

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