Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Lego Batman Movie (w/ Sam Richardson)
Episode Date: March 12, 2024This week, Lauren and Nicole watch The Lego Batman Movie (2017) and experience the auditory gift that is Will Arnett’s Batman. They are joined by very special guest Sam Richardson (Veep, Th...e Detroiters, The Afterparty, Werewolves Within, Champaign ILL) who deftly catches and explains all of the references to Batman movies of yore. Along the way, they discuss the hilarity of eating an entire Lobster Thermidor alone, the Dickens-esque morality journey Batman goes on this time around, and, of course, the power of friendship. Follow Sam: Instagram, TwitterNext week's movie: The Batman (2022)Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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It must be great to be Batman.
Batman, we love you!
Thank you. I'm blushing super hard under the mask.
Batman!
Pray God.
Thanks, Batman!
I can only imagine he's going home right now to party the night away,
surrounded by friends and lady activewear models.
Hey computer, I'm home.
I'm home.
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do.
Master Bruce, your greatest fear is...
Snakes? No.
Clowns?
No.
It's being a part of a family again.
No, now it's snake clowns because you put that idea in my head.
Sir, you need to take responsibility for your life,
and it starts by raising the young orphan you adopted.
I thought I was being sarcastic.
Hello, secret camera. We built this city.
What?
It's the Batcave.
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Look, it's the Bat-sub!
Don't touch that!
The Bat-sapling!
Don't touch that either!
It's the Bat-kayak!
Do I get a costume?
I love it!
But his pants are just a little tight.
I got an idea.
It's better!
I can only look you in the eyes right now.
Hi, Batman!
No way!
Come catch your greatest enemy.
Superman is my greatest enemy.
Superman's not a bad guy!
And I say that I don't currently have a bad guy.
I am fighting the greatest enemy.
I am fighting the greatest enemy.
I am fighting the greatest enemy.
I am fighting the greatest enemy. I am fighting the greatest enemy. I am fighting the greatest enemy. I am fighting the greatest enemy. I am catch your greatest enemy. Superman is my greatest enemy. Superman's not a bad guy.
And I say that I don't currently have a bad guy.
I am fighting a few different people.
I like to fight around.
Hi, Barbara Gordon, new police commissioner.
It's my dream for the police force to team up with Batman.
What?
Wouldn't that be better?
I hate everything you just said.
I'm falling!
Gotcha.
Nice.
Initialize master build.
Got it.
Here you go, father.
I need an elbow.
I need a macaroni.
Yes, we did it.
Pretty cool, huh?
Why did you build this thing
with only one sheet?
Uh, because last I checked,
I only had one butt.
Let's go defeat the Joker.
Woo!
We're going on a family trip.
I can wear my costume, too.
Well, luckily for us, you left your costume back in.
Rip!
Oh, no.
Under your clothes.
That's perfect.
Ooh. 🎵 The Lego Batman Movie!
Oh no.
Wow, we're doing it.
I'm Nicole Byer.
I'm Lauren Lapkus.
And this season we have been deeply covering the Batman movie.
Oh, so deep.
This is the 11th.
Problematic even. Oh God. I did a is the 11th. Problematic, even.
Oh, God.
I did a stand-up show where I brought up Batman and Robin.
Oh, no.
I would have nowhere.
This is what's wrong with us.
It's bad.
This is bad.
I've made jokes recently about both Batman and Star Wars, and I think I should be arrested.
Take her away.
This is the 11th episode of our sixth season, and we are working our way through movies
within the Batman universe with the help of fellow newcomers, super fans, and sometimes even people who have contributed.
Yeah, it's going to be 13 episodes culminating in a very exciting livestream episode!
We'll cover as much as we can to get an overview of the franchise, But guess what? We can't get to every dang thing. We can't.
But today we're going to be talking about the Lego Batman movie,
which is available with a subscription on Max and Prime Video.
And you can also watch it for a fee on Apple TV+, Google Play, and Vudu.
Yeah, and guess what?
Like always, we have a guest.
He's an actor, writer, comedian, and producer.
You've seen him on Veep, I Think You Should Leave,
After Party, Ted Lasso, and of course the show he co-created, Detroiters.
Welcome back
Sam Richardson!
Wow!
Wow!
Am I okay?
No. It's good. It's great.
That's great. Keep going.
Sam, okay, we can't wait to get into the
Lego Batman movie with you.
Are you a DC head?
I am.
I do love Batman specifically.
DC movies I like.
Yeah.
Do you like Superman?
He seems dumb.
He's not dumb.
He is the embodiment of all that is good.
Excuse me.
Except for in the one where he's bad.
Where he seems bad.
And that's the problem with those movies.
That's the only one we saw.
Yeah,
that's a bad take
on Superman.
Did you like
Batman v Superman?
I did not like
Batman v Superman.
Dawn of Justice
Ultimate Edition?
I can't believe
I remembered the name.
Wow,
you remember the whole thing.
It's incredible.
It's seared in your memory
for a long time.
Oh my God.
I did not enjoy that movie.
Okay, good.
What about the Lego Batman movie?
Loved that movie. There we go. Yay. Oh my God. I did not enjoy that movie. Okay, good. What about the Lego Batman movie? Loved that movie.
There we go.
Yay.
That's good.
It's the sweetest of the Batman movies.
It's very cute and sweet and funny.
It was.
And honestly,
it came at the right time
because I feel like we could get
all the jokes and stuff.
Like, if we had watched it earlier,
it probably wouldn't have hit.
I knew who Sauron was.
I know.
I know.
They mentioned Zod as well.
Yes!
I was like,
I know Zod.
I know about Zod, I have to say.
There's a lot of franchise references, not only Batman.
Yeah, there was a lot going on.
It's almost all references.
Yeah.
It's just joke.
Joke a second.
We did our homework.
We did.
So we got to understand things.
All right.
Well, I'm glad we actually liked something.
It's been a while.
I think we haven't liked something.
Well, we haven't liked the same thing in a very long time.
No, we haven't because I went off the rails with Batman and Robin.
Yeah, although we did like Batman Begins.
That's our favorite.
We did.
We love Batman Begins.
It's a great one.
It's a great one.
And I think we feel really like smart because we liked that one.
Yeah, we were like, we really like Christopher Nolan and his world building.
And that one was like a deep story with lots of good backstory.
A very realistic take on the Batman mythos.
Yes.
Mythos.
That's a good word.
Let's incorporate that.
Yeah, mythos.
Mythos.
People are like, hello.
And I'm like, mythos.
Might be mythos.
But I don't know.
It's okay.
Nobody likes mythos.
A mythos sounds like a Greek island.
And I prefer that.
Mykonos and mythos.
You just went there.
I did. It was nice. Mykonos and Mithos. You just went there. I did.
It was nice.
Ocean's beautiful.
It really was.
And not nary a child in sight.
I know you like them, but.
I do like children.
My own, specifically.
Did you jump off a boat?
I did.
Yeah, I thought I saw that.
I was like, no, what?
No, I definitely jumped off a boat.
I think you have to jump off a boat in the Greek waters.
You have to.
But yeah, this movie was so fun
And nice
It was really sweet
I still felt it was a bit long
And that's maybe a personal problem
That I have
It was an hour 40 minutes and I was like still?
We have movie left?
It felt like we could shave off 20 and we'd be good
I thought kids movie Feels like we can make this a little bit shorter.
Did you think it was too long?
I didn't think so.
Okay.
I hear from a question, what would you feel would be like the clippable moments?
You know what?
That's what's hard because everything's funny and cute or has a point.
So, yeah, it's hard to figure out what to cut.
But I was wishing it was shorter.
But also when I saw that it was an hour 44, I thought, oh, yay, it's only an hour 44,
because everything we watch is really long.
So Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition was three hours and two minutes.
Yowza.
That was too long.
I got to write a letter to Zach.
We didn't need the last two.
The last two minutes you don't need.
Didn't need.
Didn't need.
Who cares?
The dirt rose a little.
I'm still mad.
I know. Still mad. I know.
Still mad.
I know.
Would you want a Superman casket?
No.
Yeah.
Okay.
What kind of casket would you like?
A Batman casket.
Okay.
Wait, what kind of casket do you want, Lauren?
If I had to pick between those two?
No, just anything you like.
Barbie.
I think being ashes makes more sense.
I agree.
Burn me up.
Get a nice Barbie urn.
Yeah, you can do a lot with urns.
Urns could be anything.
That really opens it up.
Put me in a cookie jar.
Any shape.
Not just box.
No.
I'll think about that later.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll be back with all the Lego Batman movie you can handle.
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We're back with the Lego Batman movie.
It was released right before Valentine's Day on February 10th.
Date movie!
Date movie, date night!
In 2017, it was written by a whole gang.
Seth Graham, Smith, Chris McKenna, Eric Sommers, Jared Stern.
And they said, John Whittington, get in here! And it was directed by Chris McKenna, Eric Summers, Jared Stern. They said, John Whittington, get in here.
It was directed by Chris McKay.
And we are so grateful eternally to Wikipedia for the help in putting together this summary.
Thank you so much.
It gets more general every time.
It used to be the Batman fandom wiki.
Now it's like DC wiki.
Now it's just wiki.
It's just Wikipedia.
And of course, donate to Wikipedia to help keep it alive.
Yes, keep it alive.
Even though everyone clicks the X on that.
Sure do.
So within the DC superhero dimension of the Lego multiverse, Batman, voiced by Will Arnett, who I think is hilarious, protects Gotham City and fights crime.
During his latest mission to stop the Joker, voiced by Zach Galifianakis, also one of the funniest people, and his team of villains from Destroying the City, Batman succeeds but also hurts the Joker's feelings by telling him he's not as important in his life as he thinks he is, leading the Joker to seek the ultimate revenge on him.
I loved this.
Wasn't that cute? They had loved this! It was so cute!
Like, what are you talking about? I was like, but I hate you.
It's like, we're not in a relationship. And I was like, oh, I get it!
Yeah, yeah. This is fun!
You've had a breakup like that? Sure have.
Where I'm like, you don't want
to be with me? We're not together!
And I'm like, are you sure?
You're nothing to me. I'm like, what?
So, the following day, Batman's alter ego, Bruce Wade,
attends the city's winter gala hosted by Mayor McCaskill.
Mariah Carey.
I caught that.
I caught that.
I didn't.
I caught that.
I thought, is that Mariah Carey?
And I looked it up and I was like, it's Mariah.
That's wild.
I didn't catch that.
They didn't have her sing.
That's so funny.
I don't even think she has that many lines
no
this wasn't in
the Wikipedia summary
and I was like
how do we figure out
how to put it in
because I know
that someone will not
know that
I didn't know
that's really fun casting
and also just for her
to be like
you received the offer
of the role of
Mayor McCaskill
in Lego Batman
she's like great
so funny
what is that
she's like great
I'll record it in my trailer.
Celebrating both
the retirement
of Police Commissioner Gordon
and the ascension
of his daughter, Barbara.
Rosario Dawson
didn't catch that either
to replace him.
Wayne is smitten by Barbara.
Also, during this scene,
they had two Legos
that looked like me
next to him.
What?
I didn't catch that. I need to see them.
There was like a curly haired black lady standing next to him.
And I was like, is that me?
Why did they call me?
I like when
first of all, I thought the Legos look amazing
and the sort of like
different types of plastic they're able to
create are so cool. And the way that
she like shakes her hair when she gets out and doesn't move.
It's like there's so many cute little Lego jokes.
I loved it.
I love it.
Our listeners may or may not have seen the film,
so I have to describe what a Lego is.
I'm here enjoying the description.
Different types of plastic they could create.
Well they did do that gritty plastic that's create. Well, they did do sort of that
gritty plastic that's like on his helmet
that's like sort of textured and then
the skin. Yeah. It's great.
It's amazing animation and I don't know how
it's done and I want to know more. Wait, we
skipped the part where he goes home, don't we?
Where he goes home and he puts
on his road. His road?
When he hangs out at home. I love that part.
Oh my god, why can't I say robe?
Slow down.
I'm so excited to talk about Lego Batman.
That was like my favorite part actually when he's watching.
He's watching.
Jerry Maguire.
He's laughing.
I'm laughing at all the people.
I was like, you've got.
Yeah, he's a freak.
He's like laughing at it.
I want to live in his house with him.
Me too.
He's like bored.
I like when he's eating by himself in his like moat.
He eats a fully shelled lobster and you hear the crunches.
That made me laugh so hard.
That's cute.
Okay, back to this fucking gala.
So he's smitten by Barbara and this distraction results in him unwittingly agreeing to adopt
the enthusiastic orphan Dick Grayson played by Michael Cera, which is so funny.
It's a really cute character too.
Those big eyes.
I had those glasses.
Oh, I loved it.
Wayne is then infuriated by Barbara's plans
to restructure the police to function
without the need of Batman.
The Joker crashes the party with his villain team.
The Joker surrenders himself to the police
while capturing almost all the villains
for the police in a fun little box,
except for Harley Quinn, which is Jenny Slate.
With so many villains incarcerated, Batman becomes desolate as Gotham no longer requires his crime fighting skills.
It's really funny, like watching this after being so deeply entrenched in this world, because it is it is basically the same story over and over and over again.
Yeah. And I over again, yeah.
And I'm like, this is the silly one.
There were points where I was just like,
I wish I could be surprised in some way,
but I know that I won't be.
That is interesting that they keep making the same movie again and being like, you gonna come?
For a hundred years.
You gonna come?
And everyone's happy with it.
Everyone's like, okay, I keep coming.
Suspecting that the Joker's up to no good.
Oh, how could that be true?
Batman plans to steal a Phantom Zone projector belonging to Superman.
Channing Tatum.
I didn't get that that was Channing Tatum.
Oh, I didn't get that either.
A device that can banish anyone to the Phantom Zone,
which houses some of the most dangerous criminals in the Lego multiverse,
only for Alfred, Ralph Fiennes.
Good get, by the way.
To intervene and advise him to take care of Dick. in the Lego multiverse only for Alfred, Ralph Fiennes, good get, by the way, to intervene
and advise him
to take care of Dick.
Batman initially refuses,
so Alfred allows Dick
to enter the Batcave,
appearing as Batman
before Dick.
This sounds horny.
It does sound very horny.
Batman states that he is also
adopting Dick
and fosters Dick as Robin
to help him in his scheme.
Batman and Robin
recover the projector from the Fortress of Solitude, breaking into in his scheme. Batman and Robin recover the projector
from the Fortress of Solitude,
breaking into Arkham Asylum,
and successfully send the Joker to the Phantom Zone.
Suspecting that the Joker wanted to be sent there,
Barbara locks up Batman and Robin.
While the projector is being seized as evidence,
Harley steals it back as part of the Joker's plan
and frees him, allowing him to return to Gotham
with all the multiverses villains he has recruited
in the Phantom Zone. Oh, including
Scarecrow. Oh, we forgot. Because Manzoukas
told us. Oh, he did, yes.
So he is Scarecrow, Jace and Manzoukas,
the Riddler is Conan O'Brien, Bane
is Doug Benson, Starstruck is
Who's Who of Margo, Two-Face is
Billy Dee Williams, oh, wait,
Catwoman, Zoe, Kravis, Poison Ivy,
Poison Ivy, how do I say, Ricky? Lindholm? Lindholm, yeah. Oh, wait. Catwoman. Zoe Kravitz. Poison Ivy.
Poison Ivy.
How do I say Ricky?
Lindholm?
Lindholm, yeah.
Oh, I got it right.
Voldemort's Eddie Izzard.
Green Lantern.
Jonah Hill.
Clayface.
Kate Micucci. Oh, my God.
I didn't realize we know her in this.
Wow.
The Flash is Adam Devine.
King Kong is Seth Green.
Finally, Sauron is Jermaine Clement.
Who informs the Joker that Batman isuce wayne which the latter mistakes
is the two being roommates which made me laugh the criminals attack gotham and take over wayne
island this is this early in the movie realizing that got them like we're late dude it's gonna be
wrapped up faster than one can believe i know it was a quick 140 realizing that gotham does need
batman after all Barbara releases Batman and Robin
and teams up with them and Alfred to stop
the new threat although his teammates
achieve some success in fighting the multiverse's
villains Batman forcibly sends them
away to get tacos and confronts
the Joker alone fearing he might lose
them just like his parents Sam what you might
not know is that or maybe you do from
from this podcast but
we tend to
read podcasts
or read descriptions that take up
three hours. It's fascinating.
We cannot believe that we're
almost done. Actually,
the speed that we've been reading
is based on how we usually have to read
like 10 pages.
We had 16 pages in the last episode.
It's about to be done. It's a clip.
Y'all are quick.
We have to because normally This is the difference between the Batman fandom wiki 16 pages of the last episode. It's about to be done. It's a clip. Y'all are quick. It's impressive.
We have to because normally...
This is the difference between the Batman fandom wiki and the Wikipedia.
Yeah, it's Batman fandom wiki.
He also gets very deep.
Very, very deep.
But, you know, I also think with this type of movie, it's harder to, like, analyze because
we're not really talking about the...
I mean, and we'll get into all of it, but, I mean, I just feel like, you know, it's more
surface, obviously.
Yes.
Believing that Batman is incapable of changing his ways,
the Joker sends him to the Phantom Zone
before stealing the Batcave's stash of confiscated bombs to destroy Gotham.
Meanwhile, Phyllis, Ellie Kemper...
Didn't catch that either.
She had a fun part being a little light-up thing.
She did, a light-up Lego.
Is that a thing that exists anywhere else or no?
Do you know?
No, I don't believe so.
Okay, great.
I think they got tired and they were like,
let's not make a Lego thing.
Let's just make it
like a Lego that lights up.
It's just a Lego.
She literally is just a Lego.
I feel it's supposed
to be like God.
Oh, yeah.
And so in Lego land,
a Lego would be
made in his own image.
Okay, it's deeper
than I thought.
Who is the Phantom Zone's gatekeeper,
shows Batman how he has mistreated
Dick, Alfred, Barbara, and the Joker.
Batman accepts his greatest fear
of being part of a family
and decides to change.
Batman's teammates return to the fight
to help him but are endangered themselves.
I don't know where I added chooses.
Batman makes a deal with Phyllis
to temporarily return to Gotham
to retrieve the Zone's escaped prisoners
and arrives in time to save his roommates
teammates, but they are his roommates
apologizing for them for leaving them and
requesting their help to stop the Joker. They agree with
Barbara taking on the Batgirl costume, which I felt
could have come earlier. It could have came way
earlier. Also, this felt very much
like, um, not a nightmare
before Christmas, uh, Christmas
Carol, Christmas time.
Oh, where he sees
like the
Ghost Before Christmas
this is the
Christmas Carol
the Ghost Before Christmas
the one Dickens
yeah
where it's like
showing him his life
being like
you bad
yeah there was this thing
where they showed
the photo of him
with his parents
in the moment
before they're killed
and then
we see them
take a selfie
and I was like it's just like that selfie.
And then it was.
And I was like, I'm so amazing.
You're so smart.
I'm paying such close attention.
Now who's the worst ghost detective?
But I thought that was cute that he has a family.
Because that's something we've missed in every movie.
It never ends with any sort of relationship or anything.
No, he's never adopting.
Well, I mean, in Batman and Robin.
Batman Forever? Oh, Batman Forever. No, he's never adopting. Well, I mean, in Batman and Robin. Batman Forever?
Oh, Batman Forever, yeah, he does get a teen.
Oh, the teen.
Because remember, Robin's whole family died
while he was rolling a bomb into a river.
Right, right.
I don't know how you could have forgotten that, Lauren.
I want him to have romance.
He didn't make it clear that Barbara
was a platonic friend here.
They were not gonna do sex in the Lego universe.
In the Lego universe, yeah.
Sort of admiration.
Yeah, and then it's like, how do Legos fuck?
Like, they would get stuck and they don't have to help them.
I liked how he saw them naked.
I mean, that sounds so gross.
Whenever they would change pants, though.
Yeah, and you saw like little flesh shows.
It was so weird.
It was very funny.
Also, Robin's costume with the little legs out that made me laugh and the glitter cape
that was funny so with the help from joker's team who felt neglected by the joker when he refused
to break them out of arkham batman and his team defeat the escaped multiverse's villains and send
them back to the phantom zone however, the Joker's bomb explodes, tearing
Gotham apart and the plates below the city.
Yeah, there's just plates underneath Lego
City. Batman convinces
Joker to help him by telling him
he gives him purpose to be
the hero he is. And with the help of
every civilian and villain,
they manage to save Gotham,
chain-licking themselves together
with their heads.
I really liked that.
That was very satisfying.
It was really cute.
Yeah.
They link up head to foot.
Head to foot.
And create a chain across where the bridge should be.
And that was very charming.
And I loved it.
In the aftermath, Batman reveals to Dick that he is Wayne in disguise, then goes to return
to the Phantom Zone to face the consequences of his earlier behavior.
Phyllis prevents Batman from entering the Phantom Zone after realizing he's a hero and
seeing how he changed to save everyone.
Afterward, Batman gives the Joker and the rest of the villains a head start, knowing
they will be no match for the Bat family.
I liked it.
It was cute.
I liked it.
It was very cute.
Have you seen other Lego films?
I have.
I saw the Lego movie, the first Lego movie.
I think I saw that one at some point.
I didn't see that.
I love that.
I went to the theater and saw that like three times.
Yeah.
Oh, three times.
I loved it so much.
So how many movies are there before this happens?
I think this was the second one.
Then they did Lego Movie 2.
Oh.
Okay.
But Lego Batman was a character in Lego Movie.
I think I saw that one.
And it was very, I think it was, from what I remember first,
Everything is Awesome is the song that really gets stuck in your head.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
But it's like really cute how they established the whole Lego world.
And then, I mean, this gets to play on everything.
They've already established all the fun Lego bits.
So they don't really have to do that as much. And then they can do, this gets to play on everything. They've already established all the, like, fun Lego bits, so they don't really have to
do that as much.
And then they can do all the Batman jokes.
I liked the song at the end a lot.
The song was really cute.
I stayed till the end.
I stayed.
I stayed.
I was in bed.
I also stayed.
I watched it till the end.
I stayed on my couch.
Through the credits.
It really got me good.
I thought I was curious if it was going to be a scene or if it was going to be important
to something I needed to know but it wasn't
it was just gone
just friends or family
I really liked it
it was such a nice movie to be like
yeah you don't have to do everything on your own
yeah
call a friend
I watched the last half with my daughter who's two
and she was really into
the whole Godzilla King Kong craziness.
We watch Frankenweenie every day.
She loves the movie Frankenweenie, which I think might be completely inappropriate.
But it's really cute.
And there's a turtle that gets made humongous into it.
And then she just always calls it.
So she calls the movie Big Turtle.
And she was calling this Big Turtle 2 because she wasn't saying the number two And she was calling this Big Turtle 2.
She wasn't saying the number 2.
She was like, Big Turtle 2?
There's a Big Turtle also.
And then she wanted to watch Big Turtle 2 again.
That's great.
Big Turtle 2.
Yeah, yeah.
That's so funny.
Very wonderful. I was like, Big Turtle 2.
We can put it into our rotation.
I accept this movie as one of the ones that we watch over and over again.
I can't believe.
I love that.
Yeah.
Batman staying with you. Batman can stay. I mean, we watch Monsters over again. I can't believe! I love that! Batman's staying with you.
Batman can stay.
We watch Monsters, Inc. all the time, too.
There's a few that I know very well now.
I never thought...
I've always been a person who watches a movie one time
and then kind of forgets it all.
I now can quote Monsters, Inc., Monsters University,
Frankenweenie.
What's Frankenweenie about?
It's about a boy who's...
It's a Tim Burton movie
and it's all black and white animation
and then claymation
or whatever it is
but his dog dies
and then he re
he stitches it back together
and makes like a Frankenstein dog
wow
pretty dark
I know we kind of skip the dog dying
if we catch it in time
we just go like
oh look they're already doing this part
oh
but it's yeah it's a pretty dark film going, oh, look, they're already doing this part. Oh, yeah.
But, yeah, it's a pretty dark film.
That's really sweet.
So, let's hear about the awards and reception for Lego Batman.
It earned $312 million
worldwide against a budget of $80 million.
I would say that's a win
for Warner Brothers.
I'd agree.
And we always want to make sure.
Yeah, we want Warner Brothers to win.
They deserve the world.
They do.
Critics, they had good things to say about this movie.
Praising both the comedy and animation style, it holds a 89% on Rotten Tomatoes, making the second highest ranking Batman on the site behind The Dark Knight.
Wow.
That's actually really interesting.
To me, it's Batman Begins, Lego Batman, and then The Dark Knight.
I'm going to go Batman Begins, then Tim Burton Batman Returns.
Then Batman, the one before that, then Lego Batman.
Wow.
You liked it.
Ooh, I go 89 Batman.
Oh, okay.
Dark Knight Rises.
Sorry, not Rises.
Sorry, Dark Knight.
Okay.
Dark Knight.
No, huge.
I was going to say that's huge.
That was a crazy thing.
Yeah, no, that's not the truth.
Batman Returns. Batman Begins. crazy thing. Yeah, no, that's not the truth.
Batman Returns,
Batman Begins,
Lego Batman,
the new Batman,
The Batman.
Oh,
we haven't seen that.
Oh,
you have. I have,
but I remember nothing.
I really enjoyed it.
Except for he like,
wears jammies at one point,
it looks like,
and he's like,
flying through the city,
and I laughed,
and no one else did.
That's always good.
You never know,
you might have to sleep
at any time.
He flies right into a bed.
Oh wait,
I forgot Batman and Robin.
Batman and Robin,
you loved that one.
I really did.
That one was really,
I'm not a favorite.
So maybe Batman Begins,
Batman and Robin,
Lego Batman,
Batman Forever.
Whoa,
we're sick in the head.
Yeah,
sounds like.
The fact that we can do this.
I know,
it's so upsetting. And keep track of all the names because they're so close to head. Yeah, sounds like. The fact that we can do this. I know, it's so upsetting.
And keep track of all the names.
I know.
Because they're so close to what the other ones are called.
Oh, okay, we need some trivia on this film.
No way.
Oh, wait, sorry.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Will Arnett acknowledge that the raspy voice
He used for Batman
Is the same voice he uses
With his children
When he's giving them
Important parenting information
Hilarious
That is funny
That is funny
Do you guys listen to
Smart List at all?
No
It's really funny
I have known him as an actor
But through that podcast
I've like learned of his
Sense of humor
And he's hilarious
Do you listen to Smart List?
I don't
People love it
People love it
Yeah
I'm gonna start today Yeah me. I'm going to start today.
Yeah, me too.
I'm going to get a hobby
and start listening.
Yeah, let's play it now
and then have the audience
listen to us.
Yeah.
I think it hears laughing.
We hope.
Oh boy.
Bane's voice and accent in this movie is based on Tom Hardy's portrayal of Bane in The Dark Knight Rises.
Doug Benson had been doing that voice on his podcast since the movie was released and the directors were fans of Benson's podcast and hired him based on that.
I do feel like there's a lot of podcast fan crossover in the animation world.
I think so.
Yeah.
Because they're listening to voices all day,
so they're like, better listen to more voices.
Billy Dee Williams voiced the nefarious Two-Face in this movie.
Williams portrayed Two-Face's good alter ego,
Harvey Dent, in Batman 1989.
Huh.
Yeah, you forgot?
Sure did.
Yeah.
Some of my favorite lines in that whole movie.
Oh, do you know any of them off the top of your head?
I was like, the people of Gotham have more
to worry about than ghosts and goblins.
It's so fucking good.
Or so freaking good, sorry. You could swear.
You could say. Oh, fuck yeah.
It's so fucking, fucking good.
Yeah, swear more. Wait,
he was not
Two-Face? He was just Harvey Dent?
Yeah, so by the time you, so he would have,
I think the idea was that in the third movie
he would have become
Two-Face,
but then it was
Joel Schumacher
and so
Timely Jones
played him
instead of
Wow.
Yeah, because you only see
Billy Dee Williams
like standing at the podium
like talking a little bit.
Yeah.
In the second one.
Here are some memorable
callbacks
that connect
to different movies.man's line in the
beginning action scene you want to get nuts let's get nuts is a reference to batman 1989
i don't know what that is so that's in the in the scene where the joker comes to uh
to vicky vale's apartment when he's about to tell her what and then like the joker comes
and uh and bruce wayne has to like figure out what to do
so he puts the plate under his thing
and he like hits the
like a vase on her thing
with like a fire poker.
He's like,
we're gonna get nuts.
Gang, let's get nuts.
And the Joker shoots him
and his line is
never ever rub a nothing man's rhubarb.
Wow.
I love this.
Wow.
That's wild.
You are a Batman head. I'm a Batman guy. Wow. We need you here. Wow. That's wild.
You are a Batman head.
I'm a Batman guy.
Wow.
We need you here.
Yeah.
The shark repellent is a reference to the 1966 Batman.
I knew that. Yeah, and they had a bunch of references to that one, which was cute.
And when they went back through all of the looks that he's had.
That was fun.
Yeah, that was very cute.
I liked all the little video things.
he's had. That was fun. Yeah, that was very cute. I liked all the little video things.
Early on, the Joker
says that his plan is not
like the two boats plan or the
parade with Prince music. The first
is a reference to the Joker's plan in the Dark Knight
and the second is a reference
to 1989 Batman, which
was pretty amazing
when the music in that one is wild.
It's very nice. All that Prince music.
When Batman and Robin are fighting the Phantom Zone villains,
Batman is spinning Robin around while Robin kicks away a bunch of Agent Smiths.
Oh, this is a reference to The Matrix.
Well, I've never seen that.
You've never seen The Matrix?
Yeah.
It's honestly great.
It's great.
The first one was really good.
I heard the other ones that I don't need to see.
The first one.
Never bothered.
But there's a little boy in it
who's like,
talking about spoons.
Honestly,
that's never been referenced
to me before.
I've heard a lot of Matrix
references in my life.
It's not one of them.
Now I want to know.
I really like that part.
He's like a little ball-headed boy
and he's bending a spoon.
He's like,
why is he bald? I don't know because He's like a little ball and he's bending a spin. He's like, why is he ball?
I don't know
because he's magic.
After Batman agrees
to work with the others
to stop the Joker,
the cast offer to help Batman
and he replies,
what am I going to do?
Get a bunch of criminals
together to fight the criminals?
That's a stupid idea.
This was a jab
at Suicide Squad
which criminals fighting criminals
was the plot of the movie. Criminals Fighting Criminals was the plot of the movie
Criminals Fighting Criminals
is what saves the day
in both movies
it's a jab
at Suicide Squad
I mean isn't
I thought it was just a reference
reference too
yeah
because I'm like
that's all the same characters
right
it's like Harley Quinn
so okay
they're not taking it down
we don't think
the Lego movie
is taking anything down
other than isolation
and not being friends.
Okay, another break.
Holy Batman, Batman.
In this new segment,
it's not new.
In this, well, it's new to us.
It's new to the season.
Okay, I'm going to start over.
We've been doing this for 13 episodes. It's not new.
I really did. I've never called
it out before.
Holy Batman, Batman.
In this new segment,
we will learn on the definitive
newcomer's Batman scale.
We're going to use our phones to rank this Batman across five unique characteristics.
Preparedness. How prepared is this Batman? Does he get to use his little gadgets and tools?
Detective ability. Does this Batman get to be a little detective? Is he good at mystery solving?
Voice gravelliness. How gravelly is this Batman's voice?
Sadness. How lonely, brooding, or emo is this Batman?
And finally, hotness, horniness. How hot and or horny is this Batman's voice? Sadness, how lonely, brooding, or emo is this Batman? And finally, hotness, horniness.
How hot and or horny is this Batman?
And reminder, he is a
Lego.
As I
did it, I was like, Nicole, it's a Lego.
Yeah, I didn't, that's not gonna
really change anything for me, but
Okay, let's see how that changes.
Whoa.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Okay, preparedness.
We gave this Batman a 90% prepared.
I feel like he's very prepared.
Very prepared, I think so.
He's got a lot of stuff.
He's got everything.
Detective ability, 61.7%.
Who went super low?
I gave it super low because he wasn't really detective.
I think he's maybe the dumbest Batman.
That's true.
I guess he's kind of an airhead a little bit.
He's an airhead boy.
Okay, I gave him too much credit for being who he is.
I gave him a little too much too.
Yeah.
Voice grabbliness, 100%.
100%.
Best voice grabbliness and all natural voice grabbliness.
Oh, they didn't modify it at all. I don't think it's modified.
I think he's doing that.
Right?
I'm worried about his throat.
No, he has a naturally gravelly voice.
But I feel like,
you know,
the one we just watched
was Ben Affleck
was completely modified.
Oh, that was wild.
I didn't enjoy.
It's more fun to hear it.
Yeah, to hear someone try.
Use the instrument.
Use your instrument, actor.
Sadness, 75.7%.
He's pretty sad.
He was sad, but only when he looked at pictures.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Most of the time he could forget about it.
And then he'd be like, aw.
And you'd be like, oh no.
But I think the plot point is how lonely he is in this one
versus the other ones where he's like, I'm sad,
but I'm going to go kill people.
Not kill people.
He doesn't kill people.
But it's just like, I don't have a family.
But I felt like he was okay with it
because he was crunching lobster's shell
on, microwaving it
as well. I was like, these are wild choices.
I love the microwave. He's standing in front of it
for so long.
That was really cute.
Hotness and horniness.
No, it says 25.7.
But there is, well, two people are bringing us down.
Okay, I gave him a pretty high score.
You gave it very high.
I brought us down.
I gave it a real low.
I don't feel that I'm attracted to him.
That was a joke I was making earlier.
However, I do feel that he is horny.
He wanted Barbara.
That's true.
But I feel like he wanted Barbara,
but not enough to really be like,
hey, are you feeling what I'm feeling?
Yeah.
No, he didn't try anything.
Plus, it's a children's movie,
so I guess, what are we doing?
What am I talking about?
I don't know.
Some of these we've watched have been kind of for kids,
like the Tim Burton ones.
Those are for kids, you think?
Well, aren't they kind of?
I mean, when we were kids,
I feel like it was geared towards them. I don't think, I was watching this thing on it, like they. Those are for kids, you think? Well, aren't they kind of? I mean, when we were kids, I feel like it was geared towards us.
I don't think.
I watched this thing on it.
Like, they weren't geared towards kids.
And then parents got mad because McDonald's did, like, a Happy Meal for Batman Returns.
Oh, this came up.
And then parents were like, this movie is not appropriate at all.
And Tim Burton's like, I didn't make it for just kids.
I didn't make it for the children.
Yeah.
But the marketing machine took over.
Because I feel like when I was a kid, it was like a movie that everyone could see.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everyone had seen that in Greece.
In Greece.
My mother wouldn't let me watch Greece.
Why?
She thought it was inappropriate.
Because it's all about boinking.
It is.
It's full grown adults who are in their 10th year of high school.
Yeah. She was like, this is of high school. Like, yeah.
She was like, this is not for you.
Well, it's kind of true.
Here's a segment that we have.
Taryn Killams, how did the score score?
So, okay, let's give our one sentence opinion on this.
Who did, oh, the score was by Lauren Balfe.
That's probably not how you say it. I liked how you said it.
How would you say that, Sam? Lauren Balfe. Yeah, probably not how you say it. I liked how you said it. How would you say that, Sam?
Lauren Balfe.
Oh, interesting.
Okay.
And we just go,
that's right now.
Yes, correct.
And that's how you do say it.
You're an idiot.
It's probably Lauren A. Balfe.
Lauren A. Balfe.
Lauren A. Balfe. How can Balfe. Lorne Balfe.
How can I help you?
That's how you answer the phone from now on.
No explanation.
Lorne Balfe.
I didn't really clock the music in those.
I honestly don't feel like I really did.
The song at the end.
That was fun.
Yeah, but I was more focused on the jokes, I feel like.
I was trying to just pay attention because it was a constant stream of visual and verbal jokes.
And the first song that he sings when he plays the Batman.
Oh, yeah.
He sings while he's beating up everybody.
Yeah.
I forgot about that.
That's great.
I like that one.
It was really fun.
Yeah, Lorne Balfe previously assisted Hans Zimmer on the music of the Dark Knight trilogy.
So it's fun to get to do a silly one after that.
This one's for the kids.
I feel like Hans Zimmer has been around for a long time.
His name has been mentioned 5,000 times
on this podcast.
How old is he?
Let's take guesses first.
96.
I'm going to say he's
79.
I'm going to say he's 62 years old whoa
he is 66
and not 96
who's the other one that's like
Tim Burton
or the other music person
no
you did it like for Batman
Oingo Boingo
can I think of his name right now Danny El Batman yeah Oingo Boingo can I even give his name right now
oh Danny Elfman
how old is Danny Elfman
that's what you say
when you can't think of it
Oingo Boingo
Oingo Boingo
Oingo Boingo
Oingo Boingo
he is 70
Danny Elfman
Danny Elfman is 70
I thought he was like
he's like ripped
he is
he's ripped
it's time for 5 Kapows
it's time for our reviews
of course we love
to read reviews from Letterboxd.
Sam, are you on Letterboxd?
I'm not on Letterboxd. Is that something that interests you
to tell your friends what you think about movies?
Yeah, it's in person,
I think. Yeah. Because we can get you
signed up for Letterboxd.
Right now, if you would like. Our producers are ready with a computer.
They're standing by. I'm too humble a man.
Well, we are on Letterboxd as newcomers,
something we've never explored ourselves.
I didn't know that we were writing reviews for this show until this season.
Even though we've said this every time,
and we always say now we're going to say what our review is.
It's been six seasons.
She didn't know they were being typed up.
And I had no idea.
To be fair, I don't think it was all six seasons.
I think it might have started with Marvel.
Just the last five.
So you're not totally saying.
Just like 30 episodes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, earlier I was talking to Sam and I said,
I gotta go to Whole Foods 369.
And he smiled and nodded at me.
And then I was like, did I say 369?
Yeah.
So she is off.
You have extra days in your year.
That's how she gets it all done.
How does she do it?
My extra three days, four days?
I don't know.
So please follow us on Letterboxd at Newcomers if you are someone who is into such things.
And right now we are going to give a one sentence review ourselves and a star rating out of five stars what we think of this film.
Anybody want to go first?
Oh, wait.
You know what?
Let me tell you what these other people said first.
Okay, fair.
Lily gave it four stars and said, you can't spell the Lego Batman movie without LGBT.
You sure can't, Lily.
You can't spell it.
But were they represented?
I don't think in the least bit.
I don't think they were.
So it's not a connection
I would make
a lot of people
on Letterboxd
referenced the gay undertones
oh okay
I mean Robin
Robin had a sparkly cape
a sparkly glitter cape
our queer correspondent
Allie says
yeah everyone was really
into Joker
Batman subtext
okay
oh okay true
very true
yeah that's totally
something that was going on
okay
accurate
interesting I didn't pick up on that at all and then the glitter cape I thought was just a fun choice Okay, true, right. Very true. Yeah, that's totally something that was going on. Okay. I agree.
Interesting.
I didn't pick up on that at all.
And then the glitter cape I thought was just a fun choice.
Yeah.
I agree.
Sophie gave it four stars.
Sophie says, how do you think Ben Affleck feels knowing that BoJack Horseman made a better Batman than he did?
Whoa, Sophie.
Throwing daggers.
Wow.
Throwing that shade, Sophie.
You don't have to say the horse did it better.
Not the horse.
What about the actor?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, what's the one sentence review
you would give this film in your star rating?
Sam?
I give it a five star.
It's the sweetest Batman that we can learn from.
Oh, I like that.
I think I'm going to give it five stars as well.
What a nice, fun time.
Love Legos.
Love a good ha ha.
Tee hee hee.
Lots of heart.
This morning I woke up and I said, I love my friends who are my family.
I like that message.
Friends are family.
I like that.
I called Sashir today and was like, I want to know what I learned from the bad man.
Oh, yeah.
I thought that was really sweet.
That's a good message for kids to understand.
And then I went on to say, why don't more live action movies tell me that I can do it with my friends?
Yeah, that's true.
She was like, it's a children's movie?
I don't know, Nicole.
No, they don't say that enough.
I would give this five stars as well.
I'm going to say, as a huge Batman fan and aficionado. I loved all the references and
jokes to other Batman films.
And it's really cute and funny.
The end.
We didn't mention, I think it was
the Loch Ness monster who accidentally kills
Sauron and then he slinks
away in the water. That really made me laugh.
I just didn't want this podcast to end without me
mentioning that. Yeah, I'm glad you said that.
Is it the monster from, not Jason and the Argonauts?
Sorry, this is a very, excuse me.
What do you call it?
Actually.
An actually.
Well, actually.
It's a very actually.
But I don't know, but I was curious what that was because he shoots a blast out of his mouth.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
And it was like giant.
The Godzilla type figure?
Yeah, that Godzilla
with the four arms.
We call that Big Turtle
in my house.
Big Turtle.
That's Big Turtle.
Big Turtle, too.
That's Big Turtle.
Or is that Clash of the Titans?
Is he from Clash of the Titans?
I don't know.
I didn't know what that was.
Is it the Kraken?
Is it Kraken from Clash of the Titans? Oh, release the Kraken.'t know what that was. Is it the Kraken? Is it Kraken from Clash of the Titans?
Oh, release the Kraken.
Release the Kraken.
Oh, I know that.
I know that phrase, but I don't know what it's in.
I kind of only thought that was an NHL team.
Didn't know that was a reference.
Oh, the Kraken.
A mighty beast that dwells below the sea.
The swamp creature.
The swamp creature.
Oh.
Oh.
That's what I'm getting off Google.
Hey, that's what it is then.
Was there a Harry Potter person in it? Voldemort. Oh, Oh. That's what I'm getting off Google. Hey, that's what it is then. Was there a Harry Potter person in it?
Voldemort.
Oh, yeah.
And what's funny also is that Ralph, Ralph Fiennes is Alfred, but in the Harry Potter
movies, he's Voldemort.
But he didn't play Voldemort.
That's fun.
And what is his name?
Ralph?
Ralph.
Ralph.
It seems like it's Ralph, but it's Ralph.
Why did he do that?
Because he's very thing-ish. Yeah, do you guys rave why'd he do that because he's very English
yeah do you guys know
why'd he do that
yeah
I don't know that
he had any control
I think we should
talk to his parents
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five stars
ooh baby
I'm hibernating
until the Superman season
begins
shut up
no and my favorite duo returns I truly can't wait to hear those crazy ladies talk about more five stars. Ooh, baby. I'm hibernating until the Superman season begins. Shut up. No. And my
favorite duo returns. I truly
can't wait to hear those crazy ladies talk about more
movies that I have never seen and will
never watch. Tee hee.
Thank you. I think it's a mistake. You thought
we were doing Superman. Yeah. Because I got scared that this was
a suggestion to do Superman. I don't
even know how we could. We can't.
We can't. I just simply
don't want to. We actually have to put our foot
his outfit makes me upset yeah the kryptonite is dumb his hair oh uh-oh all i want is that
bathtub scene for four hours yeah i want to see them get out of the tub i want to see everything what happened next wait i want to see them get out
of the tub i want to see them deal with the wet clothes i want to see them put them in their
washing machine i want to watch that film i think you should do it like an indie that's just based
on that i think that's really funny that would be great or a short or something and superman
effing in the tub effing in the tub wait sam you said you like Superman why? I like I like 77 Superman
Christopher Reeve's Superman
oh
Scott was also singing
his praises
yeah
wait
do you like Wonder Woman 2?
uh
the show
oh
there's a show?
no no
the uh
the uh
I liked the first one
a whole lot
okay
okay
we haven't
oh you
never seen it
I've never seen it
never seen it either
are you kidding?
second one I wanted to like
a whole lot but it was a little messy.
Yeah.
Oh.
Who are the other DCers?
You've got The Flash.
Oh, yeah.
That movie just came out.
The movie just came out.
Are we watching that?
Okay, so we are watching it.
Can we say that?
I feel like our lineup changed a little bit because Scott, I'm just going to say Scott
made us do it.
Scott bullied us into watching The Flash say Scott made us do it.
Scott like bullied us.
Scott was like, you can't do the Joker because Batman's not in the Joker.
And it's like, it's, you know, he had his reasons.
But then he said the Flash was more important to this specific Batman franchise.
Oh, interesting.
Affleck Batman has a pretty big, I don't want to say he's huge, but he does participate in the film.
Yeah.
So Ben Affleck has been Batman three times?
Yeah.
Wow.
Same as Christian Bale?
Wow.
Yeah.
Michael Keaton only did it twice?
Nope, no.
He did three times?
He did three times.
Also in The Flash.
Whoa!
Is Val Kilmer there too in George Clooney?
He's not
but apparently
they were supposed to be
okay okay okay fine
wow
I'm excited now
the only thing I've seen
from that movie
is the falling babies
hell yeah
oh yeah you showed me
that scene
and that was the most
insane they were ever seen
in context
is it supposed to be funny
I think so
but even still
it's bizarre
it's so weird.
It is.
It's an odd choice.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
I can't wait.
Okay, well, everyone out there.
Is that the next one we're watching?
Oh, it's going to tell me.
No, I don't think so.
We got a little time.
Everyone out there, please write a review on Apple Podcasts because we pick one to read
on the next episode.
And we also ask that you rate us on Spotify.
Sam, you've been such a delight.
Is there anything you would like to plug?
Just hanging out.
Just hanging out.
Just plug my Instagram.
Yeah.
What is it?
How do we find you?
It's the Sam Richardson.
There.
Do you have an ex account?
I do.
Sam Richardson.
Yes.
You ask it that way every day.
You have an ex account?
It's so dumb that Elliot Muskies was like, I'm going to rename it X.
What's wrong with you?
I'm not on X.
I was on Twitter forever and I left Twitter and it felt like nothing.
I was so scared to leave.
And then I was like, delete.
It doesn't matter.
Just nothing changed in my life at all.
Except I spent less time looking at that.
Yeah.
And more time on Instagram.
Well, we're going to be back next week with The Batman, a movie I loved but remember nothing about.
We're so caught up.
This is from 2022.
Oh, my God.
That's last year.
Yeah.
Depending on when you listen to this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It depends.
So you do the math yourself on when that was
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We might just read it on the next show.
Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-bye!
Bye! it on the next show. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Bye.
That was a Hiddem original.