Newcomers: Scorsese, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - WandaVision: Episodes 1-4 (w/ Emma Fyffe)
Episode Date: July 5, 2022What is this podcast, if not Nicole and Lauren persevering? Producer/writer/host/professional nerd Emma Fyffe joins us as we go from widescreen to the tube and dive into our first MCU install...ment on (and celebrating!) the small screen. Is the Scarlet Witch our favorite Marvel superhero? Or just, apparently, the powerful-est? You'll have to tune in to find out. Next week's movie: Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019) (Yes, we know this is out of order don't come for us!) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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So what's a single girl like you doing rattling around this big house?
Well I assure you I'm married. To a man. A human one.
Wonder.
One.
We are an unusual couple.
Oh, I don't think that was ever in question.
We just don't know what to expect. Howdy, neighbors.
Hey, bud.
Wanda, what's up?
Who are you?
I don't know.
I think something's wrong here.
Wanda, can you hear me?
Who's doing this to you?
Are you here to help us?
This is our home.
Then let's fight for it.
Well, I think we handled that well. Thank you. Wow, wow, wow.
I'm Nicole Byer.
I'm Lauren Lapkus.
It's newcomers!
We're really doing, you know what?
I want to say we're almost done.
We've basically done it. We are.
And we know everything now about Marvel.
We are Marvel experts! Can you now about Marvel. We are Marvel
experts. Can you even? We really are
at this point. This is the 18th
episode of the fifth season.
We have been working our way through the MCU
with the help of fellow newcomers, super fans,
sometimes even people who've contributed.
And now we're going to be discussing
the first four episodes of
WandaVision, which is available on
Disney+. And obviously, we're going to spoil these episodes.
So accept that and run with it.
Okay, Nicole, what did you think of WandaVision?
Okay.
Here's a hot take.
Yeah.
I'm kind of sad we're coming to the end.
I think I'm enjoying my time now.
Holy fucking shit.
Because I think I really liked... I did not like the first one. I said, toot my time now. Holy fucking shit. Because I think I really liked,
I did not like the first one.
I said,
yeah.
The second one I said,
well,
okay,
I have to watch two,
the three more or two more.
And then the third one,
I was like,
wait,
this is fun.
And then the fourth one,
I was like,
yeah,
but that's pretty much how I felt because at first I thought,
I actually thought it was all going to be like sitcom style.
And I was like,
that's good. I like this. And then the first one I was like oh no I can't watch all
of it like this this is so not interesting actually and then as it progressed and then
when it became the 70s I was like really way more interested I was like is it going to be the 80s
is it going to be the 90s I was very interested and then when it became like oh it's happening
in this sort of alternate reality or whatever, I really was into it.
I was really surprised.
Yeah.
And people did say in advance of us watching this that like four is not enough and you're not getting the full experience.
I mean, I think we I mean, it sounds like we both might keep going a little bit.
Am I right?
I actually might.
I was like, I don't have very much to do after this.
I might finish it.
They're not the longest episode.
They're not.
And there also is that like 10 minutes at the end. That's just credits or something, which I don't know why they have
10 minutes of credits. We're very excited for our guest today, Emma Fyfe. Emma Fyfe is a producer,
writer, and host at Fandom. She was recently a cast member on D&D Beyond's YouTube Dungeons
and Dragons live play series, Battle for Beyond, and can be seen on Dropout's game show, Um, Actually. Welcome to the show, Emma. We're so excited to talk about One Division.
Very excited to be here. Thank you for having me. You know, Lauren, I was thinking about your
comment about the credits and how there's just like 10 minutes of extra credits on the very end
of every Marvel thing. So the thing that is a little bit of a relief about that is every time,
because I was just reviewing Obi-Wan over at Fandom. And so I had to like get up and watch
it in the morning because we did our reviews at 11 a.m. on, you know, technically the day that
it dropped because it came out at midnight. So I would like see that an episode was 40 minutes
and the Star Wars shows are the exact same way. So I'd be like, oh, OK, 40 minutes. That means
it's actually only a half hour. Not so bad. Yeah, I know. That is, after we've watched like hours and hours and hours of these things,
it's really a plus when you're like, oh, the last 10 is just credits.
Just the credits.
And I don't have to pay attention to it.
No, no, no.
Yeah, I like that they were only like, because you got the like recap,
the theme song.
I was like, this is only really 20 minutes of content.
It's true.
And this is my cup of tea.
It is.
Not too much information. And I liked my cup of tea. It is. Not too much information.
And I liked,
I liked the characters
in that 50s style.
I thought it was so,
I thought it was such a unique
way to take this whole
franchise.
Like,
I,
it was so much more my speed
and I was like,
oh wait,
we could have been doing
shit like this
or like you could take
these characters
and put them into like
whatever you want them to do
and it's not to be like,
I don't know.
So I thought that was really cool.
Yeah.
And then I liked how it did line up with,
okay, my favorite movies, I guess,
are Endgame and Infinity War.
Oh my God.
It like lined up with the blip
and I was like, the blip!
I did feel when the blip crust
was flying around the hospital,
I was like, oh, Nicole's happy.
Because I truly was like,
oh, we get more of this story.
And I mean, it was good because I think that was like one of the best things that happened in the whole franchise that we watched.
Like that was one of the strongest storylines.
And so it's nice that it's connecting.
But I did think of you.
Because it's interesting because if you think about like real life, if people just disappeared for fucking five years, we would never stop talking about it.
No, no, no.
We would talk about her forever.
Yeah.
Yeah, you went a fucking way.
Yeah.
And like, what happened to you
while you were gone?
We had normal life here.
Yeah, we had to replace you at your job.
Sorry about it.
And that's the thing, too,
with the whole blip and people coming back
is, you know, in episode four of this,
when Monica's having a conversation
with her mom's doctor,
there is like literally a,
oh, no, I just fell asleep in this chair for 20 minutes. And now here I am again. of this when Monica's having a conversation with her mom's doctor there is like literally a oh no
I just fell asleep in this chair for 20 minutes and now here I am again yeah I know that was so
fucking crazy that was really sad when she comes back to the hospital well we'll get into all that
in a very deep way soon um but Emma will you tell us about your experience with Marvel like how did
you get into Marvel and how familiar are you with the whole universe?
Well, I have been in the sort of nerd broadcasting space for quite some time.
So it's kind of been, I've almost felt like part of my job in a way to keep up with what's
been going on in all of the Marvel stuff.
I was really good with like the first couple phases of Marvel of totally keeping up.
And then my job kind of pivoted more into video games and less into like film and television.
So I didn't necessarily feel the need to watch every single Marvel movie if it didn't seem all that interesting to me.
But WandaVision is one that actually I did watch all of from start to me. But WandaVision is one that actually I I I did watch all of from start to finish,
actually reviewed the whole thing on a podcast with a couple of my friends called Geek Buddies
because they were all men and they felt like they couldn't do a podcast that is deeply about
a woman's emotional breakdown without the perspective of an actual woman.
Good on them. Yeah.. Wow. So yeah,
and when WandaVision came out
in early 2021,
I,
you know,
I was a little depressed,
I think.
You've heard of it?
Yeah, yeah.
So as I was figuring out
how deeply depressed I was,
I was going on this journey
with Wanda
and it was,
it was a very meaningful show to me.
Well, it feels like it was for a lot of people at the time because everyone was talking about it.
But of course, it was not something I was interested in.
Yeah, it's funny. I heard so much about it. And I was like, not for me.
I guess I don't get to watch that, seeing as I don't know what's going on at all.
And people said you could watch it without knowing other stuff. But it feels like
and at first I was actually I knew that people said like it connects a lot
to the whole franchise
but I was like
after the episode one
I was like
how is this connecting?
I don't even see
they're going to make references
I don't really care
if they make references
and then
you know as we see
but then that blinched
and I was like
okay okay
I felt like I was like
in on a secret
I was like
I know about the blimp
also when it happened in Spider-Man,
I was so happy. I love the blip.
Also,
somebody on Twitter, I don't know if you saw it, Lauren,
they put that whole Thanos thing
to somebody.
And I screamed.
It was honestly really good.
I was so glad that person did that.
That was amazing.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I mean, that's amazing. Oh, God. Yeah.
I mean, that's interesting.
You must, Emma, you must have like be in a kind of a boys club with a lot of the stuff
that you do.
You know, I am.
It's really interesting because and I think that that's kind of as I've gotten older,
one of the things that has been very freeing is being like, I just I don't care what people
think because as a woman, you know, in this space,
you're held to a totally different standard than men are.
Like, when men don't know what's going on, it's funny.
If a woman doesn't know what's going on, she's a fake nerd.
And she is, they only put her here because she's a girl
and she has boobs, you know?
So it's like.
Oh, totally.
That's funny.
I feel like for us, when we don't know what's going on,
they're like, they're fucking idiots on their phones
exactly
the last post-thorn people were
someone said they didn't mention
that Captain America
picked up Thor's hammer and how amazing it was
and then someone else was like you think they
remembered that no one else could touch
Thor's hammer and I was like a lot happens
in these movies
I can't remember that.
I can't remember that.
I actually do remember.
Okay, see, and also we don't mention everything we remember.
That's just how talking works.
Also, this is what, like an hour-ish long podcast?
And Endgame is a three-hour movie?
We have to get through the shit.
Just the highlights.
Oh my God.
Seriously.
Also, there was a whole thing
that people were going on
and on about on Twitter
that I was pretty confused about.
And Leah, I feel like
I need you to weigh in.
Wait, what happened?
Okay, there was one person
who was like explaining to us
why Captain Marvel.
Oh, the timeline?
Yes, because we basically said,
I don't even know
what we said on the show that led this person to tweet this.
But basically, this person was explaining.
She had to pause the podcast.
Famously.
Yeah, right.
That the reason, like Captain America has existed on the normal timeline with Peggy,
marries her, all this stuff.
That's why his photo's on her desk.
I'm like, no, I thought she just remembered him, loves him.
No.
He's gone.
I don't understand how that could be possible.
That's sick.
Because then that would be Captain America opting to not do Captain America stuff.
Exactly.
Wouldn't that also make Peggy Carter's niece his niece?
And they were sort of
almost having a thing.
See, that's really fucked up.
Hey, wait, this is huge.
Not to mention,
he went and visited her
when she was on her deathbed.
Yeah.
They hadn't been married
the whole time.
Right.
I was going to say, too,
because in Agent Carter,
aren't we meant to believe,
Leah,
that that other guy
is who Peggy has a thing with
and marries and has children.
Yes.
This is what I've been holding back for months.
Thank you.
Wow.
OK, so she has a whole nother timeline, but then he blips back into her life and makes
her marry him.
That's another multiverse.
But he like blips back to before any of the stuff in Agent Carter, I think.
And then it's no it's oh, trust me. I was OK. I'm a big fan of the stuff in Agent Carter, I think. And then- It's no, it's, oh, trust me, I know.
Or is it, okay, Leah, I trust you.
I'm a big fan of the ABC series Agent Carter.
Me too.
So when this happened in Endgame
and basically negates all of like the character growth
and relationships that Peggy has had on the show,
I was very hurt as like a fan.
So he comes, he blips, not blips,
or he like time travels back a couple years after the end
of that show so in theory she could have ended up with that guy and then steve rogers shows up on
her door and she's like oh never mind just kidding i'm gonna go fuck captain america which is very
sad and very upsetting yeah but yeah what kind of message is that sending to that? Like Captain America is the only man for you.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
But also when that man was like,
it's the same timeline.
I truly was like,
he doesn't understand women.
There is no way a married woman would do her hair to fuck on her deathbed.
That is so funny.
So like I was stuck on that.
She was impressing a man she had not seen in a minute.
104 and curled her hair.
It's simply not possible.
Yeah.
Here's the thing with the Captain America stuff.
There's no answer given in the movie,
whether he went to an alternate universe
or has always been Peggy's wife this whole time
and I guess just drove up to meet Bucky.
Yeah.
And Sam, the writers of the film have given one answer in interviews
and the directors of the film have given a different answer in interviews.
Shouldn't they be on the same page?
So one would hope.
And the Peggy was married to him all the time
negates the rules for time travel
that they set up in the movie.
So it's frustrating.
Yeah.
We were just corrected incorrectly on Twitter.
Yeah.
I mean, it's one interpretation.
It's not an interpretation that I like.
But whoever you are, you're a big fan and we love you. Yes, thank's one interpretation. It's not an interpretation that I like.
But whoever you are, you're a big fan and we love you.
Yes, thank you for listening.
And you gave us fodder to talk about this week.
You did.
That was fantastic.
Okay.
I have been waiting for someone to give a more definitive answer
to that specific question for a very long time.
I thought the Loki show was going to do it
because it deals a lot with time travel.
And they didn't really.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
And that's how they keep me hooked.
And multiverses and variants on existing people within, I guess, our timeline being the main
timeline.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very unclear.
Well, I'm confused again.
Stream Agent Carter.
That's a good show. It is a a good show I don't know if I will
I don't see it happening but I do feel a little interested
wait is that part of
the like is that canon
agent Carter
I mean I guess not now but maybe
okay
interesting
should we do the daily bugle
yeah
the daily Bugle? Yeah.
Zah, zah, zah!
The Daily Bugle!
It's our new segment.
But we're going to give a recap of what's been going on in the MCU.
Ooh, Howard Stern may have accidentally leaked his involvement in the MCU related to the character Doctor Doom,
which has not been announced by Marvel Studios on a hot mic
during a commercial break on his show.
I love Howard Stern.
I think he's really fun. Is it live?
I guess he...
Well, he's on Sirius, so I guess he
must have some live element.
Right?
I want to put in my own news
story here before we... I went
to California Adventure and I
went to Marvelifornia adventure and i went to marvel um marvel land and i met loki
and let me just say that i it was the end of the night i was with my nephews who are children and i
screamed out loki and then he was literally being whisked away by two women dressed in costumes that were
appropriate for the situation. I don't know who they were.
And then I was like,
please take a picture with me. Please take a picture with me. I begged him
to stop and take a picture.
He made a couple little jokes, and
then I did the picture, and then as my nephews
were watching me take it, I thought,
oh, they should probably take one with him, too.
That makes a lot more sense.
And then i was
like you guys have to do it and then one of them was like okay then i was like no and then he was
like one for two or whatever he said something low-key-ish and then um he did it and that was
very nice and i loved it and we went to the marvel area has anyone else on this podcast been there yet? I have not been to Avengers Campus.
It feels like they're, it's very not exciting to look at, I will say.
Like it's like just building sort of.
But my nephews were really into it.
And there was a store called Web Suppliers that was like a Spider-Man store that my nephew was obsessed.
And we didn't, we wanted to wait to buy him a present there till the end so we wouldn't have to carry it around all day. And then he kept being like, we have to go to Web Suppliers. We have to go to Web Suppliers. It was like so cute. He was obsessed. And we wanted to wait to buy him a present there until the end so we wouldn't have to carry it around all day.
And then he kept being like, we have to go to Web Supply.
We have to go to Web Supply.
It was so cute.
And then my husband, Mike, did go to Pym Industries Kitchen, whatever, Pym's Kitchen, whatever it's called.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And he went by himself with our baby while we went and did other activities.
And it took him about an hour to get through.
There was like a whole long line.
He said it was basically like waiting for a ride.
But the food was good at the end of the day.
Impossible meat or whatever the fuck was served.
And he was happy.
He said it was really good.
He said it was like a good restaurant.
Impossible meat was served is maybe my favorite sentence of today.
I don't know in what form.
Impossible meat was served. He definitely ingested impossible today. I don't know in what form. Impossible meat was served.
He definitely ingested impossible meat.
Did he get one of those?
Because isn't Pim's like test kitchen,
whatever, where they do the beers
that like fill up from the bottom?
I'm sure he had a very interesting
and fun experience.
He did not really tell me anything about it
and he is napping now,
so I can't get the full story.
He was like,
I'm going to keep this experience for me.
Yeah.
He didn't take any pictures
and that's all I know.
And all the lines were really long
for those rides
so we didn't even ride any of them
but maybe another day.
And by the way,
Disneyland has this new thing
that I think is really annoying
where you can pay to do lightning pass
which is the new version of Fast Pass
but it's like 20 bucks a person
at certain times.
And then you're like, $100 to go on a ride faster.
It's just crazy.
I did do it but it is crazy.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, okay.
Next order of business in the Daily Bugle
is that Kevin Feige
whose name I still haven't figured out how to pronounce
Kevin Feige
18 hours into this podcast that Kevin Feige, whose name I still haven't figured out how to pronounce, Kevin Feige,
18 hours into this podcast,
and Marvel Studios will be at
San Diego Comic-Con
in Hall H this summer.
It sounds like a given
that Marvel would be
at Comic-Con,
but they opted out
of Comic-Con
in 2020 and 2021.
So this is seen
as a big return.
Well, it's because
they just do all,
they were, anyway,
just doing all their stuff at D23,
like Disney's big convention.
Oh. And then Kevin
Feige had something sort
of recently where he was talking about, I think it was
like right when the Ms. Marvel TV show started
and he said something about like, oh, maybe
we'll do an Avengers con
someday just for like people
who are fans of the Avengers.
Mm-hmm. It feels like they should. I feel like that would be successful. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be like Star who are fans of the Avengers, et cetera.
Like they should,
I feel like that would be successful.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It'd be like star Wars celebration,
but for Avengers,
I went to star Wars celebration.
Is that just a con for star Wars?
It's a big old star Wars convention.
Yep.
And is it like,
do they,
do they honor the holiday special?
They don't honor the holiday special.
And honestly,
that is the,
that is the biggest problem with star Wars Celebration is they have yet to acknowledge the canonical nature of, you know, Chewie abandoning his family.
And like the grandpa jerking off to that weird porn.
Yeah, network cooking shows with aliens with multiple arms.
Yeah, exactly.
I like it.
I might watch it again.
I thought it was,
maybe it's my favorite
Star Wars movie.
I love holiday themed things.
What is the holiday in it called?
Does anybody remember that?
Oh, Life Day.
Life Day, yes.
Thank you, thank you.
It's Life Day.
Yeah, Kevin Feige though,
I was at a,
I think it was at like
a home release event
or something
for the movie Ant-Man.
And Kevin Feige was at this event. And
because you just see him in the media so often, but, you know, he's not in the movie. So I'm
looking at this guy and I'm thinking, I think I know that guy from somewhere. And I literally
almost like walked up to him. I was like, hi, I'm Emma. I think we've met before.
He's like, we haven't met. I'm simply the man behind all of the films.
Yes.
His name we say every time and we try to say it.
I like Feige.
Feige, Feige, Feige.
Feige, Feige does not look the way I thought he was going to look.
I'm shocked as well.
I just Googled him.
We have never Googled him.
He looks kind of like a superhero.
He's a tall man.
He looks like he might be an evil character.
Yes.
He frequently dresses too
in the go-to superhero
disguise in all of these films, which is
simply a black baseball cap.
Yeah, it's like a baseball cap with
a specific logo that
each one is different.
He has a new one every time.
Yeah. Alright.
And he's got a really nice chin.
He does have a strong chin.
It's very defined.
Do I love Kevin Feige's?
Put us in the film, sir.
Please, Kevin, we like your chin.
Put us in a movie.
I love it.
But truly, Kevin, if you're listening,
imagine if he listened.
Can you imagine if he listened to every episode of this?
Wouldn't that be maddening for him?
What if he was the one writing all of those comments about how you guys don't pay attention?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
That would be so amazing.
He's just creating a bunch of different Twitter accounts to correct you.
He's so mad.
I love it.
He listens every episode to hear if you'll pronounce his name correctly.
He's like, let's see if they got it this time. And then we did get it right. And then I said, hmm, I'll pronounce it. He listens every episode to hear if you'll pronounce his name correctly. He's like, let's see if they got it this time.
And then we did get it right.
And then I said, hmm, I'll pronounce it wrong.
No, no.
Here's our last piece of Daily Bugle.
You can now interact with Marvel characters on the Disney Wish cruise ship, which sets
sail on her maiden voyage July 14th.
I would never.
Yeah. Oh would never. Yeah.
Oh, no.
One of my coworkers at Fandom,
our managing editor, Eric Goldman,
was at this big press event.
I didn't even know this was happening,
and then I just started seeing pictures
on his Twitter feed of this,
and it is, wow,
they sure spent a lot of money on that.
I really dislike being on a cruise ship.
I think I will never, ever do that again as long as I can control it.
I've never been on one.
Me neither.
I just don't see it for myself.
Yeah, it was a very specific situation that found me on one,
and I did not like it, and I was sick the entire time.
Yeah.
You know, I really, in
my heart, I guess I
knew it wasn't true, but I thought that cruises
were maybe something that were just going to die
with COVID. It seemed
like they should have because it was so bad
at the beginning. Yeah.
Being stranded. Yeah.
I just, I don't, I
guess it's like an easy way to travel and see
multiple places. But you only see them for like two seconds. I think like, I don't know. I don't, I guess it's like an easy way to travel and see multiple places.
But you only see them for like two seconds.
I think like, I don't know.
I don't know about this.
I don't know about this.
And you're also just trapped with all the people.
And like, it's like a community that I don't want to be a part of in general.
I'm like, I want to be alone when I'm on vacation.
I don't want to be.
Yeah, then you're like in a little cabin.
You know, I thought we evolved past it.
You know, it's like we fly in the sky.
Yeah.
Yeah. You know? Yeah. Why do we need need boats I just don't like boats really at all I'm not a boat gal I mean no that's
a lie I love a yacht let me jump off a yacht I've never been on a yacht I don't think I've only been
on like a let's get on this yacht and go see dolphins yeah I have I don't have rich friends. Yeah. No.
I would like one though. That'd be great
if someone wants, yeah, if Kevin Feige wants to
take us on a boat. Kevin Feige!
I'm going to go on the yacht for
sure. I'm available for that and I will
get sick and I don't care.
Ah, that sounds so fun.
Okay, well, let's take a quick break and then we'll jump
into WandaVision.
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Okay, WandaVision, written by Jack Schaefer,
directed by Matt Shackman, released on January 15th, 2021.
So recent.
Did they film it during the pandemic or was it before the pandemic?
I think they started before the pandemic and then resumed filming during the pandemic
once they determined that it was safe to do so.
Yeah.
I want to say that in 2019, maybe at some point, they were doing some stuff on the Universal lot under a code name.
I think I saw it on the production.
I used to be a tour guide at Universal.
You did?
Oh, my God.
Do you know Steve Slaga?
I sure do know Steve Slaga.
I helped Steve Slaga get that job.
I love Steve.
You did?
Oh, great.
Truly, this is a tangent, but I remember, I think we'd done a show at UCB or something,
and we were at Bird's afterwards and hanging out, and I was saying, and Steve Slaga was
like, he had just finished being the school manager or whatever at Groundlings, and we
were talking, and he was like, yeah, I got to get a new job.
I was like, well, Steve, we're about to be hiring for tour guides.
I'd worked there less than a year, I think, at that point.
And Steve turns to me, he goes, I just really want to work at a sit-down pizza hut.
It's like, well, Steve, if you'd like to move to Nebraska.
Your options are limited, I think, with where those exist.
God, he's so funny.
I'd like to work at a sit-down pizza.
I feel like he must have been a great tour guide.
Did you like doing that job?
I did.
Yeah, it was a great gig.
I was very part-time as I was getting more and more
into doing broadcast hosting,
all that kind of stuff
my last few years there.
But yeah, I mean, it truly is like,
it's such a great gig.
Because at the end of the day,
it's like I liked the people that I worked with and I worked for directly, like my direct supervisors I liked.
And it was cool to, you know, I could just go on the Universal lot whenever I felt like it.
Yeah, that's very fun.
Nobody would give me trouble.
I knew how to sneak into the lot and it wasn't even really sneaking.
It was legal sneaking.
And that tour is really cool with all of the, like, fun special effects and things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I worked for VIP for a long time.
So, like, I would do the tours where we'd actually, like, get out and walk around and go in the prop department and all that kind of stuff.
Oh, that's fun.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was neat.
How'd you get a VIP?
Yeah.
Was it all VIPs or just people who paid more?
Actually, so, well, it was mostly just people who paid more.
Okay, yeah.
Lauren's like, will my money get me VIP?
Your money will get you VIP.
But sometimes you would get, like, especially during, like, Halloween Horror Nights,
you a lot of the times would get stuff that was arranged through publicity and have the, like, VIPs,
which seemed to mostly be 100% based
on how many Instagram followers they had.
So often I would end up with people that I'm like,
who is this?
Yeah.
But the teens love them.
The teens love them.
Oh my God.
All right.
Well, WandaVision.
Okay.
Now, episode one.
This was called Filmed Before a Live Studio Audience.
And in an homage to sitcoms like The Dick Van Dyke Show and I Love Lucy, Wanda and Vision
moved to a town in New Jersey called Westview.
They notice a heart on a calendar indicating that there's some significance to the date.
Hijinks ensue when Wanda thinks the date is marking an anniversary and calls on her neighbor
Agnes, Catherine Hahn, to help her spice things up, while Vision realizes thinks the date is marking an anniversary and calls on her neighbor Agnes, Catherine Han, to help her
spice things up, while Vision realizes
that the date means his boss and his boss's
wife are coming over for dinner. At the end
of the episode, we zoom out to see someone
watching WandaVision and taking notes.
Okay. I mean, it's
our shortest summary to do.
Yes. And it truly
covers everything.
Nailed it. Not to say nailed it to you.. Got it. Nailed it.
Yeah, I did it. Not to say nailed it to you.
That's annoying.
Hey, listen.
It's okay.
It's a part of the zeitgeist.
I'm used to it.
Yeah, I really didn't...
I didn't really like this episode.
I guess I didn't get it.
I was like, okay, great.
Yeah, I thought as an actor,
probably it was really fun to make.
I think that it's a fun like, spoof sort of thing.
And the vision being a character in the 50s in a sitcom is, like, so weird that I found that kind of interesting.
But in terms of keeping my attention, it was a tough one.
It was a tough one.
I think if I was like a Marvel fan
who was just seeing this
for the first time
I might have been so intrigued
like what are they doing
and where is this going?
And that might have been
really exciting.
But because I already
kind of knew this was a thing
I just was kind of like
what is going on
and how are we going to get
into making this interesting?
Yeah.
I think because I did watch it
when it came out
and even without that
just you know
liking the Marvel stuff in general I did really it when it came out. And even without that, just, you know, liking the Marvel stuff in general, I did really enjoy this episode.
And I really enjoyed the fact that the show was so bold as to just present this sitcom episode with no explanation at all.
Yeah, yeah.
I did like that, too.
And that made me kind of excited because, like I said earlier, with, like, thinking, oh, Marvel.
Yeah.
You could take the Marvel people and do anything.
And it's like, that's kind of interesting yeah and i also just like some of the very specific like sitcom tropes
of the time that it called out like when vision asks at work what exactly is it that we do here
and they talk about the input and the output and the and the data but they don't it's like do we
make something no like yeah because i feel like that was pretty standard
in sitcoms at the time that you know in the 50s and whatnot that the husband would go to work all
day but you weren't really sure no what the job was yeah yeah and i liked uh the sort of bewitchy
elements of it and like there were a lot of TV references that I got.
The mom from that
70s show was in there.
She was an incredible multi-cam
actress. She came
in with
some pro-level shit with that.
I felt like everyone was
great, but I felt like there was a sort of
performing of multi-cam,
performing of the 50s.
And she just like did it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There was a scene where she was like exasperated and she like chose to like
look up and had this like day's look on her face and then like came into the,
I was like,
Oh,
I love that.
She was really fun to watch.
I didn't hate it,
but I guess I was like,
where are we going?
Why?
I don't know.
For sure.
Why? Yeah. I think, see, I, I was like where are we going why I don't know for sure why yeah I think see I I liked living in the why I think this is the I think everybody did because I remember people
were like what's going on what's gonna happen why is it a sitcom and I was like I can't be right and
I truly cannot also if I recall correctly the first two episodes actually came out together.
I was just about to say that.
They released the first two or three, and then it was weekly.
So that gave you a good little mini binge.
And then honestly, watching the show in real time was a wild experience.
It was so much fun.
Because nobody knew what was happening.
There was so much theorizing.
And again, it's really interesting to to revisit especially when they have those commercial
breaks and things and people were like
trying to analyze what all the commercials
meant so the one with this one and the
toaster and the blinking red light is like
supposed to be representative
of Wanda and Pietro
in Sokovia like watching
the Stark
missile or bomb or whatever it was
that landed and waiting for it
to go off
okay see I didn't
really like
get any of that
me either
the commercials
were like
interesting
because
the woman
in the commercials
was so
slow and like
toned down
and I was like
this is not like
anything else
I don't understand
why it's happening
yeah it was such
a different tone
yeah
the commercials were kind of fun though and Itamar Enriquez who is a Chicago improviser So I don't understand why it's happening. Yeah. It was such a different tone. Yeah.
The commercials were kind of fun though.
And if the Mar and Rika's,
who is a Chicago improviser in all the commercials,
very fun to see him.
But yeah, I was wondering like,
what is,
what is the meaning?
But I wasn't thinking it had a meaning.
Of course it does.
Oh,
but of course we didn't think anything.
We're like,
we're just watching this.
Don't tell us later.
Exactly. So episode two, we're just watching this. Don't tell us later. Exactly.
So episode two,
don't touch that dial.
When you said homage earlier,
Lauren,
I was reading along and I was like,
homage.
You said homage and I was like,
yep.
That's how you pronounce that.
You can also say in an,
well,
you can say it differently,
but now I feel like I can't say it.
If I say it,
I think it's just homage.
Homage. Oh, homage. I don't think that's, but now I feel like I can't say it. I think it's just homage. Homage.
Oh, homage.
Homage.
I don't think that's...
I think homage...
That has been said.
But homage is...
But why does it have an H in the front?
Well, it's a fancy word.
I don't know.
Is it French?
I actually have no idea.
Let's find out.
I assume it's French.
I don't know. Well, in an homage to sitcoms like bewitched wanda and vision navigate town events like a lady's lunch a
neighborhood watch meeting a talent show without revealing that they are a witch and an android
a few strange things pop up like a red helicopter helicopter toy a voice over the radio and a
beekeeper who
emerges from a manhole.
At the end of the episode, Wanda seemingly rewinds the action and changes everything
into Technicolor.
Yeah, which I was glad for.
Also, I think homage, I'm saying it all weird now, but that is a way to say it.
It doesn't sound right, but it is a fact.
But, okay, I was happy when things got in color.
I was like, what's the helicopter that didn't spark anything for me?
Yeah, I was like, okay, someone was playing in her bushes.
Yeah.
The ladies, was this on this episode where all the ladies were having their meeting?
Yeah, their PTA meeting.
I liked that, and I liked the different vibes of the women.
The style was very fun.
I thought it was just fun to look at.
I was just thinking as an actor that it would be very fun to do.
Yes.
But I wasn't thinking at this point.
Well, I was confused because I remember hearing that WandaVision went into all different genres.
But then I was like, we're doing two as this?
Like, how long is this going to go?
You know, that was a little bit.
I was being a little antsy.
Like, how long was this going to go?
You know, that was a little bit. Yeah.
I was being a little antsy.
I think just by nature of the fact that she is magical and she was kind of hiding that in the first episode, even though like this episode is the one that's very specifically an homage to Bewitched.
The first one was supposed to be a little bit more like Dick Van Dyke show, I think.
more like Dick Van Dyke show, I think.
But because, again, she is magical,
no matter what you do,
there's always going to be a slight element of Bewitched to it
because that was the whole plot of Bewitched
was she was a witch and she was trying to be housewife.
Yeah, she even did a move that was like really Bewitchy.
Very Samantha.
Yeah, she was like,
it was almost a nose twitch,
but then she kind of did like a hand thing
when she was like trying to get the curtains to open.
And I was like, that was funny.
There was, I mean, I think Elizabeth Olsen
is very talented I enjoy
watching her and I was
surprised by her in this
in this sort of format
like how she was doing
and I also was excited for her because remember when she said
that she was like kind of mad that
she got trapped in Marvel because she
missed out on 2015's The Lobster
she was like and I probably
other films that would have been more you know everyone's favorite shester. She was like, and I probably other films that would have been more
art. You know, everyone's favorite.
She said it specifically in an interview and it tickled
me so much. Well, because it went to
the Cannes Film Festival.
And so she was like, I could
have been doing such art as The Lobster.
But she's
like, I thought, well,
this is exciting because I bet she didn't think it would go here.
She's had to do all this weird shit in the movies but then she kind of gets to do something that's a little more, you know, different type of challenging as an actor, which is cool.
And gotta say, the wigs are pretty good.
They weren't great, but they were much better than the movies.
I actually felt the same way.
I was going to comment on that and say I thought the wig, whoever did the wigs on this was very talented.
She didn't do a great hairline, but she ventilated the parts enough
that I knew that it was a part.
Yeah, we had that issue with some other characters.
I mean, Emma,
they really hated Scarlett Johansson in these movies.
Oh, yeah.
And I cannot stress enough
that she really wronged somebody in the hair department.
And in the makeup department in some of those movies.
Well, I've heard there are some actors
who will insist on wearing wigs for every role
because they want to just have that hair,
you know, where it's just done separately.
They don't have to damage their hair,
all that kind of stuff.
And I'm like,
and I know that they're very expensive,
but I'm thinking,
you're planning these movies,
which make a billion dollars.
There's almost no excuse
for there to not be the most
expensive beautiful perfect wig why can't you just get a nice wig it's they're available you have the
money and we're looking at it the whole time it's as important as any proper costume i think about
the one she wore in um in endgame a lot the one where they were pretending that her hair grew out. Oh, was growing out. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. She had like ombre hair.
Yeah. It was weird.
Boy, that was funny for me. Oh, man.
I had totally forgotten about that.
That was funny, though, because I didn't think of it as
growing out. I thought of it as like she dyed it
like ombre.
No, I really
think they were trying to make us think that her hair
had grown out in the five years
made a very strong choice
she like
she like started
dyeing her hair
back to red
or whatever it was
and just left the ends blonde
she's like
I'll just leave the ends blonde
you know that's cute
let's just see
real edgy
I love it
um
okay
so episode three
is called
Now in Color
and in an homage to sitcoms like the brady bunch
this one i got excited for and wanda's hair was so good in this i really like this i like 70s
sitcoms wanda is now several months pregnant and preparing her home for the baby with vision
but strange power outages keep happening in the neighborhood and vision grows increasingly
suspicious of their idyllic sitcom life.
A woman named Geraldine comes to call on Wanda.
Vision goes to get the doctor and has a troubling conversation with Agnes and Herb.
With Geraldine's help, Wanda gives birth to twins.
She names them Billy and Tommy.
She tells Geraldine.
And is that something?
Yeah, that is something.
Billy and Tommy.
Okay.
Wait, what's Billy and Tommy is something?
Yeah, those are their children. Canonically. Yeah. yeah that is something okay tommy okay wait what's billy and tommy is something yeah those
are their children uh canonically yeah she's looking for it yeah exactly during doctor strange
madness yeah yeah that's kind of fun yeah and they um also eventually become um superheroes
in the marvel comics wait so they they are real they are yeah they yeah they exist in the Marvel comics. Wait, so they are real? Yeah, they exist in the comics.
I mean, like, it's a similar thing
where they're real but not real,
but they do get to, like, go on to be young Avengers,
and one has super speed, one has witch kind of powers.
Okay.
I actually think what happens is, like,
their souls get, this is in one version,
their souls get blown into other kids.
Into other kids.
Their souls get blown into other kids was not a sentence I expected to hear today.
Because isn't, don't they like, isn't there like one storyline where, yes, they like, like as you say, like the souls are Wanda and Vision's children, but they have like different parents.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
You know what I like about comic books is any,
any wish and thought you have in your brain,
you just put it on the paper.
Everyone goes,
that's what it is.
They got blown into other children,
knocking the souls out of these children who gives a shit about them.
Yeah.
But that's wild.
Yeah. They are. They are. Imagine being a kid and waking up
and being like, I'm now Tommy? I was
Kim yesterday. Yeah. That's wild.
That's really crazy. Yeah.
Are they aware? I don't know.
Eventually,
I think, when they become superheroes,
Wiccan and Speed are their names.
Oh, Wiccan and Speed?
Yeah. Alright. Huh. Yep. Well. Wiccan and Speed. Yeah.
All right.
Huh.
Yep.
Well, Wanda tells Geraldine that she's a twin brother,
had a twin brother named Pietro.
Geraldine mentions that he was killed by Ultron when that kind of, she kind of like mumbled it
and then she goes kind of crazy.
When Vision comes back inside, Geraldine is gone.
Outside of Westview, Geraldine is expelled
from some kind of force field,
and headlights surround her, revealing a base camp outside of town.
This is when I said, ooh, baby, now we are cooking with gas.
That is how I felt.
I was interested.
You know what I'm thinking, Nicole?
This sort of feels like if you did an improv show after watching all the Marvel movies
and just made it whatever you just, like, could go anywhere with it,
say anything, just call back all these little things.
It's totally irrelevant to what we've established and how they're presented.
But this is like, yeah, that was really great when she got thrown out and she's in the basement.
I was excited, but I didn't think initially that she was part of that.
I thought, oh, no, they're going to like study her, poke her.
I watched it with a friend and they were like,
well, why is she wearing the sword emblem?
And I was like, what sword?
And then I found out later,
but I still don't really understand what sword is.
Well, I felt like I knew that from the way she's talking to Wanda
that she knows something she doesn't know.
But when the whole thing,
they're all running toward her with like their guns or whatever.
I was like, this isn't normal that she's popped out here so it seemed wrong um yeah because
nobody's been able to get out yet like that's yeah and which they explain in the next episode
yeah this whole idea of this town doesn't want people to come into it somehow Monica does manage
to come into it and then get and becomes geraldine she forgets that
she's monica but then she goes back to being monica and when they were like she has no home
i was like why is a black lady homeless in this town why did they do that to my friend and then
it literally didn't occur to me until the end of episode four. I was like, oh, she doesn't have a home because she got sucked in.
Yeah, she got blipped in.
Yeah, it was interesting to watching this when it aired because as far as Marvel News went,
we already knew that Teyana Paris was playing Monica Rambeau and then she showed up as Geraldine.
So there was this big like, what's going on here?
Oh, that's fun.
That's interesting.
Marvel had a little sneaky little fun with this.
They did.
And is this the episode where Katherine Hahn is like saying,
she's kind of doing that wink and she does all.
Yes, she did a great wink in this episode.
The epic wink that I've seen on like a million GIFs.
But it's like she knows something's up.
I think everyone in their souls, they're like something's not right.
They're all fighting her enchantment.
Okay.
It felt like Truman Show where they were like trying to keep it under wraps.
That something's like we're clearly standing in front of a fake tree right now.
It's like the opposite it feels because everyone in the Truman Show knew it was fake.
But everyone here is like
fighting to understand why they're all acting like yeah yeah it's really interesting it's fun
yeah yeah um okay so episode four we interrupt this program a few weeks prior to the events of
the series monica rambo tiana paris who i really love she's so pretty and she's like so
talented
in the like first time we see her
I was like she's like the prettiest
actress ever
so good in this series
it's like almost not fair that she's as pretty
as she like she's so talented as well
I agree I was frustrated by that
why do you get it all
you don't need to be this talented.
Like,
you got the look going on.
Yeah.
Yeah,
it's not fair.
The grown up daughter of Maria Rambeau,
who we met in Captain Marvel,
wakes up from the blip in a hospital.
In the chaos of half the world's population returning,
she learns that she's been missing for five years
and her mother has died.
She returns to work at SWORD,
a S.H.I.E.L.D.-like organization where she is assigned to examine, oh no, what is that word? been missing for five years and her mother has died she returns to work at sword a shield-like
organization where she is assigned to examine oh no what is that word an anomaly yeah she got it
in new jersey jimmy woo randall park uh i love randall park reprising his role from ant-man and
the wasp which we didn't see so i didn't know randall park was in the universe me neither
it was a treat to see him because I love Randall.
She gets too close to the force field
surrounding Westview
and gets sucked into Wanda's sitcom
becoming Geraldine.
Dr. Darcy Lewis,
who has not been seen in the MCU
since Thor Dark World.
Is that...
The second Thor.
Wait.
Who am I...
What is her name?
Oh, uh...
Who plays her? Kat Denning. denning yeah kat denning i couldn't
remember oh my god she's great i love her is brought in with other specialists to examine
the anomaly darcy identifies the broadcast signal coming out of the town and jerry rigs away to watch
wandavision the team identifies most of the cast of the show as missing persons from the missing
town they watch geraldine question wanda about about Pietro, which is so funny that her accent comes back for Pietro.
I know, I know. Is that a joke?
I was mad.
I think what it is is that it's an intentional shift where Wanda's been putting on these affectations of the different sitcoms that she's in and then when when um monica brings in the concept of the real world
that's when she kind of like starts to like glitch out of her own reality into real reality and so
the accent starts to come back um we then see what really happened wanda became angry and expelled
her monica returns to base camp and we're now caught up with the events of the previous episode.
It's all Wanda,
she says.
Back in Westfield,
or no,
Westview,
Wanda seems to briefly remember
that Vision is dead.
Vision tells them
that they don't need to stay
in Westview
and Wanda assures him
that they do
and she has everything
under control.
Yeah,
so she sees his head
all gray.
Yeah.
Like, when he died, which was a very tragic scene.
Yeah, sad.
But then I'm like, what does it mean that he's actually dead?
Like, I don't understand.
So this is a different timeline, sort of like what we've been dealing with?
No.
No, she's made him.
She, like, made him up.
She has, like, fabricated him.
Yeah, she's, like, fabricated him into this reality.
him up she's like fabricating yeah she's yeah she's like fabricated him into this reality and so it was the moment of again her being confronted with actual reality because of monica knowing
about the existence of ultron that she then sees like vision as he actually is which is dead with
a hole in his head um and then she rewrites the scene to be all happy and 70s sitcom.
Wow.
And I think Monica's boss at one point
says that she has stolen the Vision's body.
Yeah.
Which is not true.
That is, spoiler alert, that is a lie.
Spoiler alert, Monica's boss is a dick.
Yeah, exactly.
Wow.
Okay, well, I am interested to watch more personally.
I think I might actually finish it.
I want to know where it goes.
Me too.
There is an iconic memeable scene
from this show that happens later in the series
that I was going to play,
but if you don't want to be spoiled...
I kind of don't. Okay. Yeah, I don't think I really want to be spoiled I kind of don't
yeah I don't think I really want to be spoiled either
isn't that insane it's crazy
it's a pretty fun show like coming to this episode I was like
what is happening to me do I love
Marvel now I know and I think the answer
is yes it brings everyone together
yeah and I mean I will say
visiting um Avengers
Campus um
I did feel like I understood
what was going on and I felt like I fit in.
I'll just say that.
Just a text message of a picture of you and Loki.
I screamed before I read it.
I was like, she meant Loki!
And you were like, I screamed Loki!
And I was like, this is pretty funny.
I think one of my friends, when she was visiting Avengers Campus,
it was late in the day.
You walk around a theme park a long time.
It was a busy day. No benches
for anything to sit on. So she just
sat on the ground and I guess
that like Loki came over and gave her shit
about just sitting on the ground.
That's funny. That's got a sense of humor.
I also saw Doctor Strange while I was there
but I didn't get a photo. Oh, how fun.
Yeah. Yeah. What's happening to me?
I was like, oh!
I was like, guys, guys it's my nephews who
i didn't really care i was like it's dr strange you want to go talk to him and they're like no
i was like okay where's spider-man yeah they would have been really happy my nephew was
thrilled if we saw spider-man but i don't know if he walks around maybe he does i think there's
spider-man come on yeah i know wait i have a question so on wandavision his boss
he comes back for episode two with a new wife or no it's the when she gives birth doesn't his
wait oh that's no that's a different guy that's okay i just got so confused nicole did you
recognize um like the mean the mean lady oh yeah yeah donnie the evil the evil mom the blonde leader yeah that's uh
emma caulfield from buffy oh from buffy yes also from drop dead diva josh stamberg
a television series that i loved was it good i't say that. But it is about a thin
woman who drives into
an orange truck and then her
soul gets sent back into a fat
lady's body. And you know
it's funny when a thin person has to be
fat. How will she ever get through
the day? She's always like, I'm so hungry.
It sounds like a
Tommy and Billy situation.
A soul got whispered into a fat. It sounds like a Tommy and Billy situation. Yes.
A soul got whispered into a fat. Or so it's blown into another body.
Okay, well, let's take a quick break and we'll be back with a little bit more.
For the awards of One Division,
One Division was nominated for eight Emmys,
15 Creative Arts Emmys.
They won three of them and two Golden Globe Awards,
one for Paul Bettany and one for Elizabeth Olsen.
That's nice. Really successful.
Yes, and the reception.
The series was the most watched series premiere on Disney+,
and the most viewed title of January 2021 across all major streaming platforms in the U.S.
That's nice.
Wow.
It was well-received by critics, holding a 91% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.
Richard Roper called it a painstakingly crafted, impressively spot-on tribute to the evolution of the American sitcom.
Wow. mistakenly crafted impressively spot-on tribute to the evolution of the American sitcom. And many reviewers noted that the way WandaVision explored themes of grief and loss
was well-timed for audiences who were living through the,
have you ever heard of it, COVID-19 pandemic?
Wow.
Good Lord.
Well, I can't wait to get to all of the grief and pain.
So here's a little trivia for y'all um the first episode was actually filmed from a live studio
audience how fun was that is fun i bet kovat fucked that for them yeah yeah i like it felt
so real so it's like nice to know that like they didn't really have to like you know act like there
was an audience there that there was somebody yeah there was a there's like a on disney plus
a little documentary
about the making of WandaVision
and they talk about the fact that they did film it
in front of a studio audience.
It was really cool to see.
That's cool.
Yeah.
I, it like, I just had a fleeting moment
where I was like, I'll watch that too.
And then it left so quickly.
I was like, I simply couldn't do that.
There's not enough time in the world.
Oh my God.
Each commercial references a traumatic event in Wanda's past.
Dang.
The Stark Industries toaster represents her parents' death and both.
Wait, what?
Okay.
I did feel like they were zooming in on that in a way that I was supposed to understand something.
Yeah.
The blinking light on the bomb that blew up and killed her parents.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, and then she and Pietro
were waiting for the...
I think there were like...
Leah, correct me if I'm wrong,
but I think there were like two bombs
and the one went off
and her parents got killed
and she and Pietro managed to live
and then they're just like watching
and waiting for the other one to explode,
but it never did.
Yeah, there's like another one
that stays still under the rubble
because they don't know
when it's going to explode. She has that memory. Yeah, there's like another one that stays still under the rubble because they don't know when it's going to explode.
She has that memory.
Oh, God.
Well, the Strucker watch and Hydra bath soak
represent how her and her brother were tortured.
Great.
Cheerful.
I think my favorite commercial is the fourth episode.
There's one where they reference the Lagos paper towels.
I like the juice one or the snack packs
one, the like claymation one with the kid on the
island. I think that's in like episode six or something.
Yeah. Ooh, fun.
Wanda's voice
saying previously on WandaVision
at the beginning of each episode gets progressively
less cheerful each time. Yes, it does.
Wow. That's fun. That's fun.
They get to play a lot of fun things. That is fun.
Yeah, as she's like losing her control over her finely less cheerful. Yes, it does. Wow. It's fun. That's fun. They get to play a lot of fun things.
Yeah, as she's like losing her control
over her
finely crafted reality.
Mm-hmm.
This, yeah,
I mean,
it seems like
they really
took their time
and did a lot of shit
with this.
A lot of nuances.
Yeah.
Jimmy Woo
does close-up magic
in his first scene,
a reference to his
character's fascination
with Scott Lang's car trick skills
in Ant-Man and the Wasp.
Okay.
Well, again, we didn't see that one,
so that's one excuse for why we didn't get that one.
Cinematographer Jess Hall used 47 different camera lenses
for the seven time periods covered in WandaVision
and used lights from each filmmaking time period.
See, I did think this was true.
Wow.
From each filming time period to align did think this was true from each
filming time here to align with the era being portrayed that's fucking cool yeah it does it
felt that way yeah it looks really visually accurate and also something i noticed in in
re-watching these episodes before recording this podcast was like the way that the barrier around
west view is it looks when they like try to breach it, it looks sort of like a
TV screen.
I also like the aspect
ratio changing and you see it.
That was super fun.
I'm going to read here. They use multiple
aspect ratios. The 1950s to 70s
episodes are framed in 4x3 to
replicate the boxy feel of early televisions.
Oh, and then this will be fun to watch.
The 80s to 2010s episodes are in full frame, 16 by 9 for the modern TV format.
And the scenes that were outside of the show were shot in that classic letterboxd look
that's so prevalent in cinematic blockbusters.
So that's fun that we're going to get up to the 2010s.
I wasn't expecting that.
I'm excited.
Me too.
Okay, so the budget for each episode, Jesus christ was 25 million dollars oh my god that seems
really unnecessary that seems yeah fully unnecessary but honestly i guess it was they
did a good job they used every fucking penny but even the first episode it's like it's just
shot on the soundstage um it makes it the most expensive television series in history upon
release it was reported that the fourth season of Stranger Things had a budget of $30 million per episode.
But do you think each kid's getting $2 million?
Maybe.
I hope not.
That's wild.
I hope not.
It's a bet.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
It's a lot of money.
The show establishes Scarlet Witch as the strongest and most powerful member of the Avengers,
a theory supported by Kevin Feige.
However, Brie Larson has argued in interviews that Captain Marvel is actually the strongest character in the MCU.
Um, I would say, based on the ending of this
and also Doctor Strange,
I'm on board with the Wanda being the strongest.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I mean, I feel like if Kevin Feige were to say someone who's the strongest I probably
wouldn't go no my character was but I don't
know you already have the job I'm gonna say
whatever I want
no Kevin it's
me
every just progressively
every single person who's played
I think it's Thor
actually it's Ant-Man
oh wait
maybe
maybe Brie Larson
is like
Captain Marvel
doesn't have
as much baggage
to hold
oh yeah
I mean
there's
there is a lot
of emotional baggage
yeah
so she's like
super clear headed
all the time
so that makes her
a little stronger
yeah but you know
once Wanda gets
into good
you know finds herself a good gets into good, you know,
finds herself a good therapist,
starts a good meds regimen,
yeah, she'll be fine.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's time for our segment,
Is Chris in This?
This is a segment
where we simply answer
if a Chris was in this show.
And was any of our main,
were any of our main Chris's in this?
No.
No. And should any Chris be in this film? Maybe not one of the main Chris's in this? No.
No.
And should any Chris be in this film?
Maybe not one of the four Chris's.
It could be, again, Christine Baranski, I think, would fit right in.
I think she would fit in.
Absolutely.
She comes up all the time.
Also, Chris Kattan.
This could have been his comeback.
Put him in.
Put him in, coach.
I would have been thrilled to see that.
This segment is, is kissing this? Was there
a kiss in here?
Did they kiss, Vision and Wanda?
I feel like maybe like a peck.
Yeah, it was very
chased sitcom
kissing. I mean, it was
implied that they did a little more than kissing
when she magicked their beds together.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
To signify.
It was like, get over here, baby.
Well, yeah, it was to like signify the change
of in the 50s,
they always slept in separate twin beds.
And then, you know,
in the later 60s into the 70s,
finally married couples were allowed to sleep
in the same bed in sitcoms.
And, you know,
they pulled the covers up
over their head
and there was a little fade to black.
Yeah.
We can assume.
Day be fucking.
Okay, well, that's great for them.
I'm so happy.
Now it's time for our segment,
Five Stark Industries.
This is the segment
where we read positive reviews
about our own show.
This one comes from Chris Wright. I really love when you phrase it like that it's so funny to me
it comes with chris right 65 five stars wig review podcast i look forward to hearing
the wigs in each movie would rate six out of five if i could thank you so much thank you so much
the wigs in this were i thought really great yeah. Yeah. I really like the seventies wigs.
Particularly.
Me too.
Those are,
I will say the hairline on Wanda is not great.
The part is very good.
I just want that wet.
You see it.
You're like,
Oh no,
but it was,
she blow dries it rather quickly with powers.
And I was like,
I'm bored again.
And then all of,
what is her name?
Monica Rambo. Yes. The character, all of uh what is her name monica rambo yes the character all of her
hair looked really good i am they did her very nice she was very kind in the hair trailer and
they said we will do we like you right yeah um okay so in addition to apple reviews. We're also going to read reviews from Letterboxd. And if you don't know
what that is,
sorry.
And then we're going to give
like a star review.
Okay, so this Letterboxd review
is by Emma.
Emma said,
how is the MCU
able to sustain itself
for so long
without the presence
of Katherine Hahn?
Okay.
Uh-huh.
They gave it four and a half.
And then this one
is from Andrea.
Mom, the multi-billion dollar
corporation is making me cry again.
That's funny. Wow.
Okay. I can't wait till it makes me cry.
Emma. Yeah.
I did not write that review about
Captain Han, but. Seems like
you did, Emma. Agree. Agree with it
strongly, though it was not
actually me. It was an extension of
myself with the same name as me what is your uh one sentence review and star rating for
wandavision emma and then we'll go around the room goodness um my one sentence review is uh
Is sad woman use power to make life happy, learns big lessons about grief.
Five stars.
Love it.
I think I would say surprises at every turn.
You think it's going one way, but then it goes the other.
Four and a half stars.
I'm almost at five.
I just don't know.
I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think I'm at four stars.
And my review is good wigs, great wigs, spectacular wigs.
Storyline, good for me, too.
We'll watch more.
Can you even?
Wow.
I mean, I can't even, honestly.
I'm shocked at the way this has gone.
I'm blown away.
I'm absolutely flabbergasted.
I don't feel like...
We have one more film to watch,
and I'm like, it's not going to top how we feel about this,
I don't believe.
Yeah, I don't think so.
What film do you have left?
The Eternals.
The Eternals.
Yeah, it's not going to top this.
Wigs, not as good.
Oh, no.
So set the bar low for that. i was gonna ask nicole how many
stars does something get for you if it like do you give an automatic star for good wigs
well i haven't really been giving stars based on wigs just like gut feelings um but most of the
avengers movies i didn't like except for endgame and Infinity War. And Scarlett Johansson's wig in that really, really made me upset.
And I might watch, what's her, who is she?
Black Widow.
No, Black Widow.
I might watch that movie just to see what they do with the wigs.
Because I'm curious.
I was going to watch it on a plane and then I was like,
I couldn't possibly watch it right now.
No.
I have to watch HGTV.
I was going to say, HGTV is really the answer for flights, I've found.
Yes.
All right.
Well, everyone out there, please, please write us a review on Apple Podcasts and give us five stars because that's what you want to do.
And we'll pick another one to read on the next episode. please rate us on spotify please please please oh my god and also
if you have any criticisms please tweet them at me okay great i do enjoy reading them leave lauren
out of it but tell me what you're mad about this week. Love it.
What did I miss?
Oh, my God.
Emma, we are so happy to have you today.
Thank you for doing this.
Is there anything you would like to plug?
Yeah, sure.
So I'm in the upcoming, I'm not sure when this episode's airing.
The season's probably airing at this point of actually, I don't know what season it is. It's many seasons in, but the new one starts July 5th.
I'm on sometime this season.
So, you know, follow me on Twitter at Emma Fyfe to know about that.
And then, yeah, we're streaming video games on the fandom Twitch channel now.
So that's twitch.tv slash fandom.
And we're there every Thursday playing games, 3 o'clock p.m. Pacific time.
So come see us.
Thank you so much.
Yes, thank you.
Well, we'll be back next week with Spider-Man Far From Home.
So I guess what I said was not true.
Well, listen, we are watching them in a funky order,
but releasing them in release order?
I don't know.
What are we doing?
We are releasing these out release order? I don't know. What are we doing? We are releasing these out of order,
but technically,
this does take place before Far From Home
because this is taking place right after Endgame
and you'll see.
Oh, yeah.
It's a summer vacation.
You know what's going on
and we don't need to know what's going on.
There we go.
Someone's got this covered.
But yeah, Far From Home did come out in 2019 and then
there was no Marvel Studios
content for a full year because of the pandemic.
And then one edition was 2021.
Got it. Wow. Really
slowed them down. A bit. Got it.
Well, amazing. Thank you
so much, Emma. Thank you. And we will
see you all next week. Bye-bye.
Okay, bye-bye. you so much emma and we will see you all next week bye bye Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.