Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - 2 Fast 2 Furious (w/ Nick Wiger and Mike Mitchell)

Episode Date: August 3, 2021

Nick Wiger and Mike Mitchell (Doughboys) join Nicole and Gabrus to discuss the second film in the Fast & Furious Franchise—2 Fast 2 Furious (2003).Follow Nick (Twitter) and Mike (Instag...ram, Twitter) and check out Doughboys on Headgum.Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what franchise they should check out next.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. All right, all right, all right, fire them up! It's time, it's time for the weak to go home! Keep your eyes on the road, cowboy. You nervous? He did the stare and drive on you, didn't he? He got that from me. What's his deal?
Starting point is 00:00:40 I got a problem with authority. You just need to chill out. You ready for this? Come on, man. Guns, murderers, and crooked cops? I was made for this, bro. 🎵 Ooh, wow! Welcome to Newcomers! Okay, so I'm Nicole Byer. My co-host right now is John Gabrus. Because Lauren has to sit this season out because she's got things on her plate.
Starting point is 00:01:43 She's got busyness, as we called it in episode one, out of fear of like, is she talking about it yet? So we'll just say she's super busy. Well, you don't want to scoop a newborn, you know? No, no. That's her news to tell people she made a whole human being. Yeah, that's all her party, man. That's not our party.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Because I'm not doing that shit over here. I need to be available to co-host newcomers. Because you're covering a series of movies that are my favorites. Ooh, baby. We're covering the Fast and the Furious franchise. And we're going to have guests that will sometimes be the newcomer. Sometimes I'll be the newcomer. So I gaslit myself.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I realized this watching Too Fast, Too Furious. Never once have I laid eyes on this movie. I thought I watched the whole series. Last week, you were confidently telling me that I think I've seen almost all of them. Maybe I missed the Tokyo one. And then text me one minute into this movie going, I've never seen this movie.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Never, never once in my life. It was so wild. So, okay, this is the second episode of the fourth season. There are 10 episodes. We're going to cover all nine movies along with Hobbs and Shaw, which I have seen. And today we're talking about Too Fast, Too Furious, released in 2003. And it's available on DVD, a subscription to HBO Max. You can watch it on Amazon,
Starting point is 00:03:05 Apple TV, Google Play, or Vodoo for some money. There's going to be fucking spoilers because we're talking about a movie. Yeah, we're talking about a movie that is old. If you're listening to a podcast
Starting point is 00:03:17 about a movie, you should just understand that it's going to get spoiled at this point. Don't click, if you're watching, if you're listening to a podcast about fucking McDonald's fries and these
Starting point is 00:03:27 motherfuckers spoil the end of tomorrow war or some shit like that, then you could be mad. I don't know what hypothetical podcast I'd even be talking about in that moment. I mean, what a great segue because our guest today host a hypothetical podcast. Just like that. It's Nick Weiger,
Starting point is 00:03:44 Mike Mitchell. Weiger is a comedian, writer, producers written for at just like that. It's Nick Weiger, Mike Mitchell. Weiger's a comedian, writer, producer. He's written for At Midnight, I Love You America, and co-hosts the podcast How Did This Get Played? Mike Mitchell, ooh, Mitchie Mitch Mitch, is a comedian, writer, and actor who's appeared in Love, and most recently, the blockbuster movie that he is the lone star of, The Tomorrow War.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Together, they come together, they eat, and they have a funny podcast called Doughboys. Welcome, Weiger and Mitchie, Mitch, Mitch, Mitch. Thank you for having us. We're very excited to be here. What a treat.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Were you doing a Nick Weiger impression there? Hey, how you doing? I'm happy to be here. Thank you. Very excited. I'm excited. Thank you. Too charismatic.
Starting point is 00:04:28 You can't say that a movie is old anymore because the movie old, it doesn't count anymore, Gabriel. So you have to say a movie is dated. Oh, yeah. If you say that movie is old, people go, I know. I saw the M. Night Shyamalan movie old. It's like, no, I'm saying the movie is old. Yes, I saw the M. Night Shyamalan movie.
Starting point is 00:04:45 It's a who's on first that lasts one line. But what is that movie about? Is it about a white person who went to the beach too long and they got fried up and became a skeleton? What is it about? It's about stolen DVD players, which is kind of weird that that's
Starting point is 00:05:01 There is a guy named Midsize Sedan in it. There is a guy named Midsize Sedan in it. There's a rapper named Midsize Sedan. Okay, well, now we technically are spoiling a new movie. That is true that there is a rapper named Midsize Sedan. He introduced it. There's a point where the woman goes, I think that's Midsize Sedan,
Starting point is 00:05:22 which is such a funny rap name. That is very funny. And is it for comedic effect or is it said very seriously? Not sure. It's hard to tell with M. Night. He kind of walks the line there a little bit. By the way, how ironic is it that Lapkus isn't here because of family when you're doing this series all about family?
Starting point is 00:05:43 I mean, you've talked about this, right? Yes. doing this a series all about family i mean you've talked about this right yes it's it's a it's a movie series about family yeah all right just making sure about it all right good good well the real crazy thing is that labkus like vin diesel may have been around for the founding of the newcomers podcast but they are out and in this they bring in two fresh face young people like you two one handsome and then one uh comic relief in roman i'll put the quotes around comic relief there for my man roman who is the best comic relief throughout all the movies but again that is not a huge trophy to hold on to. Also, a hunk himself. Roman is a baby boy. He's so hot. But it gave the movie just a different feel than the first one.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I was like, this is like a buddy comedy now, as opposed to like a gritty. I mean, I truly think the first one is an indie. I think it's a gritty indie that's like grainily shot in the streets of LA and this is like boop boop boop boop boop we in Florida now where the players play and the water's cold I don't know I was trying to
Starting point is 00:06:54 it really is a solid where the water's cold famously bien vendidos ami ami hace frio this movie This movie is a classic sequel in that it's like, okay, how about the cars are brighter and the background is brighter? And things, it is truly like a heightened movie. It just doesn't follow the same.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It forces the same plot on the movies where it makes way less sense. It's like, you're not a cop or undercover or a criminal. And it's like, okay. Yeah, if you're a real improv nerd, it's as if someone else stepped out to do your second beat and you have to watch on the back line going, hurrah, I had a good idea. Oh, I know that feeling all too well.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I've never been on the back line during an improv show. I think it was a good decision to have Tyrese not be just like another version of Vin Diesel, because that would have been like the obvious thing of just like, OK, we'll bring in another sort of, you know, tough, kind of stoic, like badass. And we'll be like, this guy looks like a badass, but he's kind of a goofball. And then that later creates room for the two of them to coexist. Because I think if you just try to out Vin Diesel Vin Diesel, it's just going to be like, well, I just want Vin Diesel.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Sure. Yeah, I think letting Tyrese bring his own thing to the table is, I think it's the best thing about this movie, honestly. Yeah, and Tyrese is great in this movie, and he's not the fully realized Roman character that we see. No. Right. Because he changes so
Starting point is 00:08:25 frequently from the movies he's a scaredy cat sometimes a total badass sometimes and then when well you'll know learn this like when we get to nine he's also sometimes a meta commentator on the yes making of films is he always hungry though
Starting point is 00:08:41 that seems like an application always carries over he stayed hungry you gotta? He stayed hungry. That seems like an affectation that always carries over. He stayed hungry. You gotta stay hungry. I love that they explained why he eats so much. It seemed like these just started rolling, and they didn't call cut, and then he was literally like, why are you eating in every scene?
Starting point is 00:09:00 He was like, oh, it was part of my character? I went to jail, and the food wasn't good there. And I was like oh it was part of my characters i went to jail and the food wasn't good there okay cool it's a it's a fun character trait that i haven't seen in a movie before like i relish in food because i went without it for so long but yeah at this but at the same time it's he steals a fucking cigar cutter from a dude's pocket. He is so much more wild in this than he, this is, I mean, this is a huge movie in the Fast and Furious franchise for Ludacris and Roman,
Starting point is 00:09:35 who's Tyrese, and Tyrese. They're a huge part of this franchise. Yes, and I didn't realize that. I didn't realize, because I was just like oh they're side characters because i truly have seen the first one and like the seventh one so i was like oh they were just added in peppered in little sprinkles i was like no tyrese was like a huge character yeah i'd be so mad to be like oh so vin's back and now i have to take a fucking back
Starting point is 00:10:03 seat squeeze me he's not mad because of that cash by the way i that because he's made millions and millions of dollars just being a goofball but but vin diesel he was offered 25 million dollars to return for this movie and he were in and he said so i read a bit i read a bit about it and uh after he read the you did research? I did. This is more than you've ever done for your own book. This is thrilling. He decided to appear
Starting point is 00:10:32 in the Chronicles of Riddick instead which by the way is a sequel to Pitch Black. Pitch Black. Thank you. Which also stars the villain of this movie. Cole Hauser.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Cole Hauser. And I'm a Cole Hauser fan, even though I'm kind of not sure of what his character is. We'll get to that later. Yeah, we'll get to Cole Hauser, who I think is doing Latino face. I think he's supposed to be Latino. Yes, I was very confused by that. I was like, you're definitely a white man. Yeah, you're definitely like an Irish white man, like a real, like a redhead with his hair dyed black. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So Tyrese does an impression of him at one point, and it's like in a Latino accent. I'm like, what? Yeah, it's very confusing. His name is Varone. Just cast a Cuban actor. I mean, just put a Cuban person, a cuban american a oh this is 2003 baby yeah i didn't get the memo yet he was offered 25 million dollars and he said that he this is what he said he said they didn't take a francis ford coppola approach to it they approached it
Starting point is 00:11:43 like they did the sequels in the 80s and 90s when they would drum up a new story unrelated for the most part and slap the same name on it. But he's kind of right there. I like that. It's principled. I kind of like it and I also think at the same time he should have done it. I mean, who cares about Chronicles of Reign? But I like where his head's at
Starting point is 00:11:59 for sure. I will say that the uniqueness of Vin Diesel is a big part. I'm sure you'll talk about this the over the arc of the series uh of the season of newcomers but it's like the the uniqueness of vin diesel as a movie star and as kind of like an eccentric is part of what makes this whole thing works that he would walk away and later come back lets them build this gigantic expanded universe before anyone was building expanded universes it's like inadvertent like well now we've got Tyrese and uh and Ludacris in here and we got to figure out how to make everyone work all together so I I don't know it's it's kind of inadvertently to its benefit
Starting point is 00:12:33 but he's right that part two is and and I think kind of the series in general until they they eventually it eventually hits its stride and I'm far from an expert on the Fast and Furiouses but it's like kind of mercenary right it's It's like Singleton comes in, the screenwriters come in for part two, and they have no other participation in the franchise beyond this one entry. It's like this is just kind of a one-off for them. Yeah. Well, I think Singleton was a great, he's a great choice for, well, I got to say this too, besides those two new characters,
Starting point is 00:13:02 this also kind of introduces the element of, hey, now we're in Florida. Like this is now, like Fast and the Furious is a travel franchise. We're going to go all over the place. We're going to go, this is going to span worlds and you're going to see a lot of different locales. But Singleton is just good because we were talking
Starting point is 00:13:22 about this before the pod started, but he's, first of all, for bringing Tyrese in. But then also, I think he just kind of gets the vibe of what the movies are supposed to be a little bit. And, you know, he did Baby Boy and he gets what he gets, what people love about these movies. I feel like I feel like this movie, though, at the time, though, like this is the first sequel. Like it's not like this was an existing franchise. Sure. No, but I loved he loved the he was a big fan of the first man of the first sequel. Like it's not like this was an existing franchise. Sure. No, but he loved he loved the he was a big fan of the first fan of the first one.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Yeah. And he gets like racing. He gets like street racing culture. That's what he said. And like urban culture. I mean, he did boys. The fact that Singleton is blessing the Fast and the Furious franchise, like after the first movies directed by that guy
Starting point is 00:14:01 who's kind of, you know, and also ran like, you know, mercenary director Rob Cohen, whose name is Casey. And now this one's fucking directed by that guy who's kind of you know and also ran like uh you know mercenary director it was rob cohen whose name is casey and now this one's fucking directed by singleton that's a huge plus up boys yeah and baby boy which we were talking we were talking about baby boy before the before the before the show started i mean we're talking boys in the hood poetic justice higher learning like all the movies that i was watching in junior high like that these were like the cool movies and he directed all of them and then comes and i don't know any of this when i go to see too fast in the theaters i'm just think i'm going to see i don't even know fully because back then you wouldn't even know that vin wasn't attached and you go see it and you're like this is crazy this
Starting point is 00:14:41 is a and then they will do this to us several more times where you're like, this isn't a sequel to the previous movie, but it's fun and has some of the similar vibes and some of the same characters. So I'm fucking here for it. It was like kind of, it kind of like hooked in. Cause Brian was like a fired LAPD officer who then went to Florida to,
Starting point is 00:15:05 to draw, like, why did his car, why was his car like an English car? It was on the wrong. He was driving like a British street racing car. I was like, what is,
Starting point is 00:15:13 what is happening? This is so wild. Also, I was like, is this movie, is it like brought to you by Mitsubishi because they had a Mitsubishi eclipse and a Mitsubishi Lancer. I think it's an evolution.
Starting point is 00:15:24 No, I don't remember. But yeah, it was two Mitsubishis. I was like, what like what's going on well it's also brought to you by pepsi too when homeboy goes directly into a pepsi billboard that doesn't get damaged at all like everything is crashing and burning around it but it's like pepsi drink it please are you Please. Are you talking about the dude from Barbershop? Yes. Yeah. I feel like the aesthetic of this movie is just like it feels very 2000. I was a sophomore in college or going into my junior year. It feels very 2003. Dude, the universal logo that it opens, the universal logo transition that it does, like it becomes like a tire.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I loved it. It's the most early aughts shit of all time. opens the universal logo transition that it does, like, and becomes like a tire. It's the most early aughts shit of all time. Well, and also kind of the, the fight club inspired. We're going to go inside something with a CG sort of sequence where they go inside the engines. I was about to say the same. This PlayStation two era,
Starting point is 00:16:19 like cut scene level of CG. It like looks so shitty in 2021. And also who wants to see the inside of like, not even like, you don't even see the engine. You see like the inside of like the circuit board. You see like. Everyone's favorite part.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Whenever you watch Formula One racing, there's always a little thing in the corner. That's a zoomed in X-ray of the circuits working. Cause that's what people really want to see when cars are driving fast. I'm holding a barbecue lighter. I love it i love it it's uh i feel like that's how you're dictating wait did all three of you see it in theaters no i did i did i did not i did not see it in theaters no i did then i remember going to see it at school i think i was in college gabrus i know your history with the franchise,
Starting point is 00:17:05 but Mitch and Weiger, when did you guys get involved? I mean, I really probably wasn't even paying attention to the Fast and Furious franchise all that much until Fast Five. And then Fast Five, everyone was just like,
Starting point is 00:17:17 you got to see this is an awesome action movie. And it is just like an awesome action movie that stands on its own. And then I watched some of the rest of the franchise after that.
Starting point is 00:17:25 But like, I've, I it's, it's all like little chunks. Like I have not seen all nine movies. This is one of them. And then I rewatched it for this podcast, but this is one of the ones I'd seen.
Starting point is 00:17:35 But I like, I don't, here's my, here's my take on the fast and furious movies. I think it's, I, Natalie, my lovely wife is a huge fan,
Starting point is 00:17:43 loves these movies. Like could not love them more. Like, saw, like, Fast 9, she saw opening day, and she was like, I don't care if you can't come with me. I'm going. Like, she's that level of fan. I feel like she gives you that line a lot. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much for dinners, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Natalie, every time I learn something new about her, I say in my head, why am i friends with nick when i could be friends with madeline so so she loves the movies and for me like i'm in these big this big action genre of the moment i'm more in the mission impossible camp like i love the mission impossible so much and i think part of it is that you don't need to be in a different camp for god's i'm just but i'm saying like in terms of my fandom like like those are the movies I love. These movies like I can appreciate, but I can't latch on in some way. And I think part of it is like every one of these movies is so cool. Like the the equivalent, like who is the who am I supposed to latch on to here?
Starting point is 00:18:37 Who's the fucking there's no dorkwad here. There's no like Simon Pegg character that could be like that would be my role on this team. Like the hacker in the Fast and Furious franchise is ludicrous. Yeah. Chris, ludicrous bridges. Yeah. Spoiler alert. Tej becomes the greatest.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Tej, the guy who just owns a mechanic shop in this movie, is later on the biggest hacker in the world until he meets Ramsey, who's also in the movies and is a bigger hacker in the world. I mean, humble beginnings from running a drag races and, and jet ski races to being a hacker. That's wild. This,
Starting point is 00:19:12 this is also, I think this is something that maybe Griffin Newman said, but, um, it's, or, and why, cause we talked about this.
Starting point is 00:19:19 It's the craziest franchise where Tyrese then becomes the comedic relief in Ludacris is the straight man like that right when you when you like you see Ludacris you're like he's funny Ludacris is gonna be funny he raps he's funny when he raps he's a funny guy and in the movie he's truly he's he doesn't joke that much he's he's he's the abbot he is he's the abbot by the way yeah i i i the way i got into fast and furious is that for my god for maybe my 30th birthday somewhere around there or or maybe it was actually i think it was before that it was my first year living at in palmerston but um the apartment i live at and i live with telling people where you live i think all the listeners understand when this story takes place then if it's around when you first moved into your apartment
Starting point is 00:20:09 look i lived here with matt kowalik and for my birthday he bought me fast five on dvd and then that's nice i had like seen the first one in theaters and thought and thought it was like not great and so i was it was a blue it was actually a blu-ray of fast five and we watched and i was like this fucking rules this is a great this is a great movie koalik who actually makes an appearance in this movie we'll talk about it a little later on but um that's the nicest the rat and the the rat in the bucket is what i'm talking about but um so your friend who got you a very sweet birthday gift comparing to vermin and a person who none of us know no one has any context now you are shit talking him on a different podcast
Starting point is 00:20:50 but uh i got i got i got the blu-ray of it and and and yeah i was i was i was hooked ever since and also i love mission impossible but i love the fast and Furious franchise. It's just, it's a, it's. So you're in two camps. I'm in two camps. It's a movie that. They, they, they keep, they, they keep, they keep reinventing. It's, it's just, I think Vin Diesel is right that he does have a Francis Ford Coppola approach to things. They keep reinventing what these movies are.
Starting point is 00:21:20 They're incredible. Five is the first one where he's a producer. Five is the first one. Five is by far the best. You were saying that, Gabriel. You were like five is where it really takes off. It's hard. I would say it takes off because it takes off on the backs of the previous four or
Starting point is 00:21:36 three of the four movies. The four movies preceding it do kind of, and I can't wait. We're going to get to do this in live time with you. They've kind of established all the characters and then five just shoehorns them all into the same movie somehow everyone that we meet in all in these next four movies is in five so little bow wow is gonna come back after three no see little bow wow bummer he turned he turned this down and they were like well maybe there's another rapper another rapper. Oh, shit. How about Chris Ludacris?
Starting point is 00:22:06 You know, dude is a fucking megastar. And Shad Moss is over on the side like, oh, fuck. I should have just done one more of these. It was Ja Rule, right? Ja Rule. Oh, Ja Rule. Oh, yeah. Ja Rule was in the first one.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And then Ludacris. It was Ja Rule who turned it down. Yeah, Ja Rule. But Lil Bow Wow's in the third one? The third one. Yeah. Lil Bow Wow was in three. Ja Rule was offered half a million dollars to do this movie, and he said no.
Starting point is 00:22:34 This is nuts! All these people getting thrown so much cash, and they're like, no, I have integrity. Bitch, give me half a million dollars, and I'll suck a dick anywhere. Here's what Ja Rule was offered $500,000 for the role, which was more than what he had been
Starting point is 00:22:52 paid to appear in The Fast and the Furious. $15,000. So he got offered $500,000. According to Singleton, Ja got too big for himself. He turned it down. He turned down half a million dollars. He was acting like he was too big to be in the sequel.
Starting point is 00:23:06 He was like, just you guys wait. I'm going to bring you a festival. Wait, was that Ja Rule? Yeah. Yes. That's right. He's like, I got to start planning for that festival. To be fair, Ja Rule might have been too big at this.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Like literally at the one time they asked him about this to do this movie, he might have actually been too big briefly. Like $500,000, there's probably a period in Ja Rule's life where it was like, wait, it's three months work. No, thanks. But I don't think Ja Rule foresaw the future. I mean, he was like, we got to get people to an island and give them sliced bread. is like we got to get people to an island and give them sliced bread well i'll say this much that like if he ate into like ludicrous or or tyrese's time i wouldn't want him there anyways because tyrese is like we said a great actor uh and and and ludicrous is great in his role too so i i sorry ja rule you you fucked up i mean maybe you'll get brought back in 10 or 11 or whatever,
Starting point is 00:24:05 but you fucked up big time. I think you fucked up. Real quick, let's not fuck up and take a break. Ooh, we back. Okay, so we have a little news segment called the Toretto Gazetto. So Vin Diesel discusses Dwayne The Rock Johnson and friendship with Paul Rucker, Paul Walker in recent cover story. So in a men's health interview, Diesel discussed his friendship with Walker.
Starting point is 00:24:42 The pair used to play World of warcraft on the fast and furious sets they played as a team against strangers out in the world what a treat and he was like no one in the world knew they were playing against dom and brian that's my vin diesel thank you it's very good thank you so much uh fan cleef run with dom and b. Dream come true. I have no idea what World of Warcraft is. Is that like Dungeons and Dragons? It kind of is. It's online. Yeah, you play with other people.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Video games is one of the few things that I have. And if at some point on the Silverhand server, I was playing PvP and just getting absolutely shithoused by Paul Walker and Vin Diesel, two fucking studs who are millionaires. I would just be like, what am I doing? I can't even have that. Guess what, Wags?
Starting point is 00:25:30 You don't got shit. You got nothing, buddy. Holy. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. It's true.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Fair. Also, in our little newsletter, he spoke about working with The Rock and cited tough love. He gave him acting advice on set. When asked about the comments, The Rock told The Hollywood Reporter, I laughed and I laughed hard. Wow! He later said, I wish them well on Fast 9 and I wish them the best of luck on Fast 10 and Fast 11 and the rest of the Fast and the Furious movies they do. Thou be without me.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Whoa. Hmm. Yeah. I guess. The Rock shouldn't be in these movies. He's so important in Fast 5, but he doesn't. You'll see. He doesn't really.
Starting point is 00:26:18 He's like hat on hat in a way. Right. He's too skilled. Okay. And it's like, it feels weird. Well, we'll get to it. In my world, he wasn't in the first one. And then he's too skilled and it's like it feels weird well truly into it in my world he wasn't in the first one and then he's in the next one and then that's it i i've truly missed so much in between i can't believe it the highlights of where the last 20 years of these
Starting point is 00:26:39 movies you know six and one got it i'm 100 team diesel in this in in the in the rock of course i mean like there's no yeah a hundred percent team diesel i mean he's he diesel is the reason that these movies work and the rock try to do his own thing i i'd look i don't want to i don't want to spoil stuff for you but hobbs and shaw just doesn't hold up to the standard of other Fast and Furious movies. It's missing something. It's missing Vin Diesel. I didn't mind Hobbs and Shaw. But also, I've missed so many of Vin Diesel in the movies.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I was just like, ooh, fun. Vin's just not here for this one. I may have mentioned this on Star Wars Newcomers, but I had a friend growing up who he had two Star Wars movies on VHS. He had Star Wars the original, A New Hope, and then Return of the Jedi. So he was missing the middle installment. And so
Starting point is 00:27:36 it wasn't until he was a teenager that he found out that there was a middle movie spanning the gap between these. It just went from the end of Star Wars right to the start of Return of the Jedi. And he thought it was just a direct sequel and it kind of works actually if you think about what happens in it but just like what like his mind hold on a second and you were the sidekick to this kid i mean for star wars to me i i don't know how anything's a sequel. It's all fucking in the galaxy and shit. I buy it.
Starting point is 00:28:11 I mean, I've seen all of them, and I cannot tell you what happens in them, other than there's a lot of space, and a man in a black helmet who looks like bubble gum underneath. Truly so wild. So, okay, Too Fast, Too Furious was written by michael brant and derrick haas like an avocado directed by john singleton released june 6 2003 uh i gotta say it is truly a time capsule of the 2000s and it feels like a music video that was just like elongated into a movie. That's what it is, Bayer.
Starting point is 00:28:50 It's very MTV music video-esque. And in all the angles of it, in like the way they shoot the cars and the way they shoot the ladies and the way they shoot the speakers in cars. Oh, Bayer, I did not. Right? It's very music video. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Especially when they're going fast and you see, like, the colors just kind of shaking behind their heads or whatever. You're like, what is this? Why would I even think that this is fun to look at? It sucks. It sucks in 2021. It's kind of like this looks a little when the two cut when they cut to two hoods and the noises are just like and it's just like two digital images going back and forth
Starting point is 00:29:33 i don't care about that and the background is just like a tunnel blowing by like that stuff i didn't care for but blowing your fucking car through a boat. I mean, that was wild. When Tyrese was like, you gotta do it. And he was like, I'm going to do it. And I was like, he's got to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But small potatoes comparatively to where the franchise goes. But sure. This is like, this is like the big moment at the end of the movie. And, and, and any other, and any other fast and the furious,
Starting point is 00:30:02 this is like a guy who just goes off the road and goes into a boat. I feel like a side character fucks up and goes into a boat. That's not the giant set piece at the end. But this early on, that's what you get, basically. They also do the same stunt twice. So in the drag race, he jumps over the bridge and lands. And everyone's like, he's a hero. And then they're like i guess we
Starting point is 00:30:27 gonna do it again yes just on above well they got to establish that he's capable of doing it technically him and uh i forget the actor's name but steve aoki's uh sister sister devon yeah daughter of rocky aoki founder of Benihana. Hanas. Yeah. Benihana. The Wall Street guy. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Anytime she wanted Benihana, she could just go. That's right. Anytime. And now anytime she wants anything, she can have anything she wants. I guess so. But Benihana, what a dream. They used women so poorly in this movie they had ava mendez yeah who is a capable actress just as like a fucking set piece as this like damsel in
Starting point is 00:31:14 distress who i was like i think she's more than capable of like fucking this dude up and then suki devon aoki didn't do anything but drive around in a pink car. That was very cool. Yeah. They still didn't nail the team thing in this. I do know that, oh God, what's her name? The actress who you just mentioned. Eva Mendes. Eva Mendes.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Eva Mendes, she had a kid and she quit acting. So I think that that's why she hasn't been in any of the sequels. Because I think that they maybe would have used her better in some of the newer movies but you're right in this she's not she's not used great and yeah devon aoki is the craziest thing about her as the character is that she would be undercover and dating varone in her, but then cheating on Verone with an undercover cop. Yes, that move. She used a terrible move. There's no way that there's no mental justification you could do for that with the exception of like, she couldn't resist Paul Walker.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But in that case, Paul Walker should be like, I'm not going to the fucking club with you. You're fake dating the evil crime boss that we're trying to shut down. This could fuck us up. He's not going to be there. I don't care if he's not there. Be an undercover cop for one more fucking hour of the movie. And she's like, but no, it's a female character. So she is defined by the two men she's involved with.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It reminds me, you know, I mentioned the Mission Impossible franchise as well. And the second entry of the Mission Impossible franchise is a similar issue at Tandy Newton, who is the love interest in that movie is basically is like Eva Mendes, like a great great actor who has very little to do. She just exists as like I'm an undercover op who exists to be honeypotted
Starting point is 00:32:59 with this, you know, with the antagonist. And that's basically my and then I have a love triangle with the hero, with Tom Cruise. That's my entire role in this movie. So yeah, it's not a super fun role, it seems like. But as we know, like I said, it's her fault for not coming back
Starting point is 00:33:15 for the sequels, for having a family and not going into the sequels. Wow, another person missing out on La Familia because of La Familia. How about that? Can I just quickly say that... You cannot quickly say anything.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Hold on, I'll get this out of my mouth quickly. Ludacris saying I have a surprise and then putting up the bridge is an insane surprise. What the fuck is that? That is a bad, dangerous friend. He almost killed all four of his friends.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Insane. He knew all of them by name. Orange Julius is the only one who was like, fuck this. And he's the most right in that scenario. His name is Orange Julius in the movie. Yes. Is it? Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yeah. He's wearing all orange and driving orange. Orange Julius. And his fans, I believe are in orange. I feel, I think there was some fans were wearing the color of the car situation in some of this. The whole like car fan thing is so wild that just like they're
Starting point is 00:34:14 hyping them up. They're like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's insane. Yes. It's,
Starting point is 00:34:18 it's, it's, it's funny that John Singleton's like, I know that street racing culture because for, for me, it feels completely unbelievable. Like, I don't believe it. It seems great.
Starting point is 00:34:29 If you're Paul Walker, you slam the brakes and you'd be like, hey, Tej, what the fuck was that, man? You invite me down to this fucking race telling me I can win some money and then you almost fucking kill us all? Jesus, dude. What about Slapjack and Orange Julius? Also, it was a lot of money to buy into that race. It was $3,500 that people just had in cash. Yeah. Fucking Paul Walker walks away with 14K.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Also, one thing I love about this movie is the opening scene is that drag race, more or less. This one we're talking about right now. But the lead up to it is Brian racing to get there on time. And then after this race, he has to race away from the cops. So he doesn't get to travel normally to and from the drag race. No, he's just going too fast, too furious. Exactly. Which, by the way, I kind of like that the movie has a lot of racing
Starting point is 00:35:27 like it is i feel like the the balance like racing is basically it's kind of there in the later movies like they'll they'll race each other or something it's just cars yeah yes but the racing part of it is kind of fun it's kind of fun that you see some of the because this this is this is an aspect that is almost completely out of the movies now. Right. Right. Fast night. It doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I'll also say that, you know, this is a series that has a lot of great titles, but I think this might be the best overall title. Yeah. Too fast, too furious is great. And you know,
Starting point is 00:35:58 for a time, everyone was having fun with it. They were doing, they were doing like the, Oh, two bucket, two list, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:03 like some fake sequel, like two whatever like it was it was the colon electric boogaloo of their time exactly yeah they were doing that in the mid-2000s for a bit because that was like the go-to joke for a while to terminator 2 electric boogaloo right but it but it is a great title and it kind of just sort of establishes oh yeah it's not gonna be fast and the furious colon whatever every time how sequels are always kind of boringly titled it'll be whatever we'll have some fun with it yeah and we'll we'll touch on it with each episode but the names really do vary wildly from from movie to movie they really play with it yeah but for something that's based on two words yeah exactly fast exactly. One is just fast and furious. Yep.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Right. It's like you just took the the away. Okay. They Facebooked it. So, yeah, they did. It was the Facebook, and then it became Facebook? Yeah. Sean Parker.
Starting point is 00:36:56 It's cleaner. Oh, who's Sean Parker? It's cooler than a million dollars, a billion dollars. He's Justin Timberlake. He's Justin Timberlake in the movie, in the social network. Never seen it. good i smell a newcomer truly never seen it is there multiple uh just the social network documentary about instagram it's 10 episodes of me just watching 10 minutes so okay after he wins this race he's arrested he's taken into custody by
Starting point is 00:37:27 his former boss from la who now works in florida and we never address that and then he's like okay you're gonna come undercover again and he's like okay let's do it i get to choose my own partner which i thought was insane i was like he no longer works for the bureau well they also go to give him that total chad too and he like fools him with the name of his own pizzeria on the cup or whatever and you're like yeah that was so weird i was like what is paul walker's is brian's character supposed to be so obviously with it that they're like give this man whatever he wants that was so slick and then they go to the fucking demo derby to pick up ro that was literally insane also in our like little synopsis he is an argentinian drug lord and he that man is white oh for sure he's
Starting point is 00:38:22 very white yeah he was i mean he's he's he's in goodwill hunting he's he's he plays a guy from southey in goodwill hunting he's uh look i'm a i'm a cole i'm a cole hauser fan he his family he's from the he's a part of the warner's family he's like he's like one of his great-great-grandfathers is like is harry warner or whatever wow warn Brothers. Oh. He's a good actor, but he's not Latino. He sure is. No, he's a redhead with freckles. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:52 But you know what? As another white guy, I give this performance an A+. I think it's fantastic. That's what we need. More white men approving of other white men doing brown face.
Starting point is 00:39:04 The three of us decided that's not racist the three uh isn't it a kind of funny bit i do like the bit that roman lives in a winnebago because it's like a loophole for house arrest like that's a really funny like you could just go wherever you want with that argument but you is that real you can't do that you can't be like a little bit of bagel so i just like pick up and move yeah it's right outside of uh the whorehouse that happens to be my current gps i also love the fight they got in it was like literal just nobody choreographed it they were like just roll around in the dirt for a little bit yeah if i wanted to
Starting point is 00:39:45 apply very good filmmaking to that be like you guys have been friends since you were kids you've been scuff fighting instead but it really it is just like uh roll around we got the shot that we and perp get as dirty as possible for the next shot so you're in? They are so dirty. And then this is fun. And the fact that they get so dirty is important because in the next scene, Brian Connor looks or whatever the fuck his name is. Brian looks exactly like every white kid I went to eighth grade with. He's got like long black shorts and the long white Orange County chopper shirt on. And you're like, aren't you an adult man?
Starting point is 00:40:28 Why are you dressed like that? It's so fucking comical. And Tyrese is in like overalls with no shirt or some shit like that. Yeah. He looks good shirtless. Well, Brian looks great, too. I mean, they're both good looking guys but he looks so 2003 ish to me he's just he's he's the perfect example of 2003 and i don't want i don't
Starting point is 00:40:52 want to speak ill of the dead and i won't because i think that he's i think he's the reason that these this him and tyrese are the reason this movie works because this movie kind of yes this is one of the weaker fast and the furious movies but those two that those two have a and he's paul walker is just a lovable guy he's such a lovable hunk right you can't you can't help but like the guy i think he's just such a lovable dude i mean that's what it's supposed to be his thing is that gang like in the narrative of the movie like a gang would allow him in uh he could be leader he could be a good cop bad he could do all this shit and you kind of have to believe that most people like him and you see that like in him that like oh yeah it makes it arguably i know i was railing against it but it makes sense eva mendez
Starting point is 00:41:36 is like yeah i'll blow cover to blow you dude let's go you know like it's like he's so he's so charismatic you just fall in love with him on guy and then you're like and him and vin diesel both sort of being so charismatic without actually putting any out anything out there personality wise or something it's like they become these sort of blank molds that we project our like love and worship onto and i And I think that's part of the love of the franchise. And that Brian's presence is felt even in the movies that have come out since he's passed. Like he's still a part of the movies in some way.
Starting point is 00:42:13 It's so cool. I'm crying. All right, we're back. Oh my God, that was so adorable and so sweet. Nicole, you know that he had, Paul Walker Paul Walker had died right I guess that's not A movie thing it's a real life No that's real life yes Buyers sort of informed
Starting point is 00:42:35 On real life not fully Just a little I just know a little bit of things here And there don't worry about me Just a few things mister No but I knew he passed away and i know that they used his brother to do some scenes and then they use like cgi to like use him in the car i think that's in seven seven yes because that's that's the next one i saw fuck the best ending it's a good ending but back to really getting too fast too furious let'm getting like let's get this that's five movies
Starting point is 00:43:06 from now so hold on I was just I was just thinking if Weiger passes away and I gotta use your brother for our podcast
Starting point is 00:43:12 and how much and how much how much better it would be it would be like a reverse Paul Walker he's too fun it wouldn't work
Starting point is 00:43:19 it would be great wait how old is your brother he's too fun it wouldn't work my brother's my brother's four years older than me but my brother is just is like alpha me he's just like he's like a cool charismatic version of me like everyone you know everyone likes him and um he can hold a
Starting point is 00:43:36 conversation he knows how to maintain eye contact it's it's it's like attributes that i envy uh but he like and mitch has hung out with him. And Mitch is like, I like him better. And I'm just like, I know, I get it. Wait, is he married? Yeah, he's married. He's got two kids. Great.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Back to too fast, too furious. Too married, two kids. Fuck that. Call me when you're single, Mr. Y. Older and cooler? I don't know. I'm just trying to think of a too bad for my, I was going to say two pussies, but I only have one.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Again, I'm sorry for your loss. I know you used to have two. I used to have two, and I lost one tragically in a car crash when I drove my car onto a boat. Okay, so listen. Two pussies. God, I'd be doubly confused. I wouldn't know what to do twice over. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Welcome back to two pussies aka doughboys. Pussy's actually a very strong muscle motherfucker. It is. But this bad guy, he makes them do a test to drive for him. I was like, what the fuck is this? Since when do bad guys do this? Tyrese calls it an audition.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah. Which is funny. That's an action. They're like, just say test or something. Why would these guys know about auditions? Oh, I guess they're in LA. They know about auditions. They grew up in Barstow.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Right. So that's when he punches the glass of the car. And I was just like, oh my God, that's so fucking hot. And then they get to the nightclub. And then this is the rat thing, which I like. This was intense. It's upsetting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:25 The dude from Last Man on Earth. The guy who's was, this was intense. It's upsetting. Yeah. The dude from last man on earth, the guy who's in everything, that actor, the great, he's on a sons of anarchy as, uh, that's right. He does a shit ton on that.
Starting point is 00:45:32 He's so good in so many things. Yeah. Uh, and his name is, I know this. I have Boone jr. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Mark Boone. Also with, he plays a shitty, he plays the corrupt, uh, partner of, um, of then whatever with, he plays a shitty, he plays the corrupt partner of then whatever his, then like Lieutenant Gordon
Starting point is 00:45:51 in Batman Begins. He plays like his partner who's like crooked and Batman interrogates him. Yeah. He's got a great like sort of slime ball vibe. And also he's basically,
Starting point is 00:46:00 he's a Voltron. If me and Gabrus come together and we create him basically. That I get because I haven't seen any of the movies you guys referenced. If me and Mitch combined, we'd finally have enough testosterone to be considered sleazy. This part's crazy when Eva Mendes puts her hands over his mouth I couldn't believe it she's in too deep she's trying to fuck Paul Walker
Starting point is 00:46:30 but also she does it like she wasn't sure if it was part of the stage directions he was like cover his mouth and she's like oh um sure yes I'll do that I'm an undercover cop you see and the way she does it she just puts like one hand over
Starting point is 00:46:46 the other and i was like i don't know lady i went gagging with something i don't know it just seems so unsure i i kind of bought it though because it's like okay i have to go how deep am i gonna go it's like uh you know it remind me of sopranos where uh nicole you're not gonna get this reference but uh when it remind me of Sopranos when Big Pussy is undercover, or he's ratting out his friends, and so there's a part where they whack somebody, and Big Pussy's like,
Starting point is 00:47:14 well, I have to show him part of this, but I'll wait until this guy's dead, and then I'll shoot him. It's like the same sort of thing. It's like, I have to show that I'm kind of down, but I don't want to do anything too criminal. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Yeah. I just heard Big Pussy, and I was like, I'm a character on the Supremes. Yeah, you were like, Nicole, you're not going to get this reference, but you're going to love it. You're going to love the name of this character. You're right, it is. So
Starting point is 00:47:43 they get the money. They're hired to work for this white man in brown face um so okay let's skip what let's skip ahead a little bit but uh we set up the rivalry here a little bit between them two and the two other yes guys who almost win the drag race audition to be hired. But then they do get hired because they're actually undercover for the bad guys as testers. Whatever. They're cronies of Verone. It's super complicated. It's very complicated.
Starting point is 00:48:14 It's too complicated. And they are granted way too powerful of a role in this movie. They're like, it was just like, they're doing so much. And I would do it too if you're trying to make them a south american gang and you have cole hauser in the lead i say yeah focus on the other guys a little bit but you know i i agree with you there's like a scene at the end and like those two like there's a big getaway scene or whatever at the end and those two are like in the car and i'm like these guys are like still fucking around like these two fucking dudes are here it's like any of the it's any of
Starting point is 00:48:46 like the detective scenes too in this movie where like anytime we cut to a scene where they were talking to the cops it was just slowed the movie down so much you're like we know he's undercover just get us the fuck out of here there's no real stakes this is the sequel but we've already done this once
Starting point is 00:49:01 if we didn't have Enrique and Roberto we wouldn't get that cool scene where one of them gets ejected like a cartoon character from the car. That is great. Ejector seat is so great. And there's just the tease of like, hey, do you have any spare nitrous earlier? And we don't know what it's for. And then we get the reveal. It's so satisfying.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I love it. I missed his light touch on the joke is in case we got someone we don't want sitting there, if you know what I mean. And he's like, too many eyebrows. And it's like, Paul, drop it. We got it. We know you're selling it way too hard. I'm going to sell it a little harder in this take.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I don't know how it's going to be sideways. And one will be on the door also. Because when we shot this scene... If you were Tyrese, wouldn't you be like, what are you talking about? Like, what the fuck? What are you reading?
Starting point is 00:49:51 Bro, what's going on? What? You're going to eject someone? If you're the other guy, you're definitely... If you're Jimmy, you're definitely going to... You're like, wait,
Starting point is 00:49:59 what do you want me to do to the car, man? I got one follow-up. You're not doing that. I'm Jimmy. I'm Jimmy. I'm the tech guy. Explain yourself. We have to take another break.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And we're back. Okay. So there's a high-speed chase just like it lasts for so long and there are so many cop cars in a way where i was like is all of florida's police after them and then a lot of thrilling stuff happens here because let's talk about this okay all the police in florida are after them like nico Nicole is saying. Literally just thousands of police cars and all of them just blowing it under pressure. Every single cop is just losing control and crashing.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And then a lady flying the helicopter, she was like, I'm Fanny. Yes! I'm the sassy cop watching. I'm the voyeuristic one. Also, like, why is this is this like why did he need drivers to go to the house that he has to get money out of the wall it's just such a confusing the guys who wrote this wrote 310 to yuma like they they wrote like a movie that people really like it's just
Starting point is 00:51:20 it's so it's so there's so much shit where you're like. They wrote the 310 to Yuma remake. That's, yes. Sorry, 310 to Yuma remake. Wow, gamers get them. Which I do love, but it is like not full credit. Well, I was going to say, people, like, that's like critically, kind of critically acclaimed. It's a wonderfully scripted movie. Yeah, it's a great story. It just, it doesn't make any, I just don't get what's, I don't get, I don't get the whole
Starting point is 00:51:45 plan of this one. I don't understand what the fuck is happening. Now you're talking about the, I don't, this is one of my favorite things about some of these old movies is when you don't know the bad guy's plan or the good guy's plan, like neither of them makes sense. And you're like, normally you're like, I don't know what the bad guy's doing, but the good guy I think is going to pretend to be a bad and sneak in. Or I don't know what the good guy's doing, but the good guy I think is going to pretend to be bad and sneak in. Or I don't know what the good guy's up to,
Starting point is 00:52:07 but the bad guy is going to drop a nuke and we can figure that. So the good guy. But this is a movie where you're like, I don't understand either plan. And then when it's revealed what the good guy's plan is, that involves like, all right, Tej, I need you to call in a favor. You got it, bro. What is it? Do you have a thousand friends that want to commit a felony? Yeah. Trash their cars too. Yeah. For you. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I mean, it was so many people. And then also I was like, it's a garage. There's a wall in a wall. It's not infinity. There's not a million cars that could come out of a garage. No. Also, why, why would these would these people why why was barbershop why was the the guy from barbershop i was orange julius why were they helping jack orange julius all we know about them is that they lost money to these guys anyway like why why are they helping out like i feel like you'd get in big trouble but then also it's revealed that like once they're good to go at the end that those people are released to it just it just is so confusing about like who is what is happening
Starting point is 00:53:10 or who's in trouble or why they're gonna be in trouble and also don't don't you think it's crazy like they know the colors like the stunt would be even cooler if they all the cars were purple and yellow yeah yes like in my head, I was like, oh, it would be an even, I mean, I love that they went multicolored because it just looked great visually, but a bunch of blue and yellow cars would be a cooler stunt because then it would be like harder.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah. Cause then you'd truly be like, who the fuck is it? But then I loved that Sookie and Ludacris were in their cars and then they were in the old muscle cars. I was like, that's very cool. That I like. Ludacris were in their cars and then they were in the old muscle cars. I was like, that's very cool. That I like. Ludacris, this was crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:53:50 He was only 26 when they filmed this movie. Or maybe he was 25. Yeah, like 25. So fucking young. Dude, and think about his life. At this moment, he's like a big rapper doing this small thing in a movie. He has no idea in 10 years he's going to be mostly known as a blockbuster actor and host of Fear Factor.
Starting point is 00:54:15 He'll be like, and if you told him then, I'm like, you're going to host Fear Factor. He'd go, the show with that guy with hair, Joe Rogan. And it's like, oh, and let me tell you where that guy ends up in 10 or 20 years. If you think it's crazy where you go, Tej, wait till you hear where Joe Rogan goes. It's a great point because like when I remember when it was like, oh, Ludacris is in the second. And it was that sort of thing where you're like, oh, like it's kind of the end of the road for his like.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And so he felt old. He felt like an old rapper at that point that was getting into, he's going to do like movie cameos and stuff and make, you know, have his, have, have like too fast, too furious,
Starting point is 00:54:53 which by the way, plays in a scene that he's in. Yeah. His own music is playing and that rules. That's alpha fucking level shit. Yeah. And also he's in charge of like racing on, on land and sea. He's like racing fucking like jet skis and shit but he's 25 he's fucking 25 he's 20 that made me feel fucking old as shit
Starting point is 00:55:16 it's it's yeah it's uh it's a thing you don't want to think about too much but i will say that is like is there a move bitch line in this? I feel like there is, right? Doesn't someone say move bitch to him? Yes. Suki says move bitch. I thought that that was a little nod to move bitch. Yeah, it's a little nod.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I liked it. I thought that was fun. I got that one. I got that one. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Not to derail us even more, but but nick you said when we were starting you were like there's no video right we were like no thank god you were like okay good because
Starting point is 00:55:52 people roast me for my boxes i can read what the sign that's labeling your box and it says nick's sports cards and english essays My parents visited and brought me a box. I don't know why they saved my English essays. That is so adorable. They're going straight in the dumpster once I sort it.
Starting point is 00:56:12 No. Sports cards might have some value. Let's read them. It's crazy though because that box is like arguably if it also had
Starting point is 00:56:19 video games and podcasts in it it would be your personality. It's like, oh, sports cards sports cards yes i memorized all the statistics for my la lakers and it's like and english essays yes i can pretend to be a human writer and work in hollywood america i have a question for you which which which is better which is a better ludicrous song that too fast too furious i'm too fast for you all or the austin powers one that's like the number one shot do you know that one he has an austin power song i don't know does he oh yeah he certainly does you never heard it before i don't know if i have i'm sure I have It has like the awesome power It's like I trust Mitch on all things music
Starting point is 00:57:11 All things Justin Powers Ludacris being super young in this movie makes sense Because he looks fucking hot as hell He looks great His skin looks incredible Yes He's like He's in Fast 9 I saw it in the theaters movies. His skin looks incredible. Yes. He's like in Fast 9, I saw it in the theaters with
Starting point is 00:57:28 Tiff, my wife, and she just, my lovely wife Tiffany, she literally just goes, holy shit, he's so hot. And I'm like, he's like statuesque in the new one. He looks fucking amazing. I can't wait to see it. Well, I mean, I'll see it soon.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Seven weeks from now. So yeah, seven weeks from now, I'll see it, baby. So this movie kind of like, you know, the climax happens when Brian drives this Camaro onto a yacht and then he shoots the bad guy. And then Eva Mendez is like, don't get up. And then he gets arrested and then we find out that brian and roman stole money this is my favorite part of the movie they do like a quadruple uh
Starting point is 00:58:16 quadruple cross or whatever where they go like they say they say to him he's like we got the three bags he's like great you guys are all free he's like, we got the three bags. He's like, great. You guys are all free. He's like, are you sure? And all my friends, they're all free. And he's like, yeah. He's like, okay, good. Then here's three more bags. There's actually six bags. But now that we know you're on, and they're like, oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And he shakes their hands. They walk away. And like the little kids that they're supposed to be friends since they turned the corner, they just both reveal that they stole money separately. And that's like such a cute fucking and even roman's line he literally laughs through it like a little kid he's like brian we've got that fucking money you barely understand him and you're like that rules he's jammed into his pants but also they didn't get far enough away somebody heard them just like right after evil or not evil angoria even mendez is on the
Starting point is 00:59:06 yacht they leave they barely leave and he's like what is she doing here and i was like they heard you yeah also they definitely heard her from the dock a boat is like what's the fucking boat walls made out of he's banging her out the dock is fucking rocking back my my thought is what why did the turning in the three bags of cash is like the least fast and furious shit i've ever seen in my life why why like they should have gotten away with those three bags of cash that's what fast and the furious is about he just turns them in and then they try to steal some in their pants that's fucking i assume there was like an element of paul walker like like tyrese is like trying to go straight right and or at least it's just trying to you know he's he's under house
Starting point is 00:59:51 arrest he doesn't want to go back in the slammer and then and then paul walker's character it was a former cop i i bought it i bought that they would be like okay we'll we'll we'll semi comply or at least we'll give the appearances of compliance we're not gonna like make a break for we're just gonna skim a little off the top. No, what Mitch, you're, you're too heavily weighing movies that came after this,
Starting point is 01:00:10 that kind of established the weird Robin hood part of the movies that come in later where it's like, and that money has been redistributed to the people of the Dominican Republic or whatever that, you know, like that's shit that happens in later movies, but that's not in the DNA yet. This is still like, uh need them to be good guys it's still old hollywood bad old hollywood like right to be good guys we need to root for them in three when we recast them all
Starting point is 01:00:35 with asian people we need to show how good they are by showing how cooperative they are with the police yes who of course are the best arbiters of who is good and who is bad. Markham, who's like trying to arrest them. It's that stuff is still so weird. I don't know why those people would help him. I guess it is just fucking over the cops, which is the plus side to them helping them out. But like ludicrous is even talking to him over the walkie talkie after he
Starting point is 01:00:59 gets arrested. It's like such, it's just, it's literally like Brian, you owe me. And he's like, wait, you're working with Brian. He's like, I mean's just, he's literally like, Brian, you owe me. You're working with Brian. He's like, I mean, cover story. But Brian's also on the cop side. There's so much confusion with that shit. A lot of confusion. It's fucking, it's, it's, it's, that is, that is the worst part of the movie.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It leans into it enough that they, they're like, yeah, we know it's muddied and confusing, but cute colors, cars going everywhere, now we're on the boat. You know what I mean? You kind of just roll with it. We literally were able to talk through the plot of this movie in six seconds. The other 59 minutes were dedicated to just bullshitting
Starting point is 01:01:39 because the plot in this movie is, they drive here, they drive there, they drive there, and they drive there. And the last there is a boat. You know what? It's a 108 minute movie that feels too long. It's way too long. And then also they recap everything with computer.
Starting point is 01:01:56 They do a computer animated recap at the end of the movie, which is it looks like shit. It looks like absolute shit. Yeah. No, it's the the the plot the plot is awful but i do think it works as kind of a friendship movie because tyrese and paul walker are they're so believable as two likable nice guys you know what i mean like they're they're just they're they're likable dudes now via paul walker we now love both tyrese and uh dom toretto who are now in the movies together without paul but paul is the linking factor between them despite vin being the linking
Starting point is 01:02:33 factor between the whole movie but we're building on that and not a lot of movies get a chance to do this like it's it's like you were saying nick it's sort of like the proto uh cinematic universe because they don't know they're doing it but they're they're making this is thor and now they're gonna make fucking doctor strange and fast five is gonna be their avengers without it being fucking whack i mean it'll be as as weirdly asexual as the avengers oh wait that was something i meant to talk to you about this in every movie buyer so i'm glad i accidentally okay how did you feel about the sort of sexiness or sexuality of this movie because as we were saying the fast movies have a weird sort of aggressive pg-13 sexuality to them. It is like, guys, we're going to be a little sexy, but not
Starting point is 01:03:25 too much tee hee hee, but close the door. Yeah, because like Eva Mendes is hot, but wasn't sexy in the movie. And then Devin Aoki was like vaguely sexy with like a
Starting point is 01:03:41 short skirt, but like nobody's overtly sexy. And then there was no sex no no no sex at all at all i was like mtv was mentioned earlier and it's like it's it's kind of like the spring break mtv sort of approach of like here's an establishing shot where we've got a few women in bikinis and then we're just gonna get to business you know that's literally we're gonna cut to an establishing shot of uh ladies in bikinis and then and zoom in to a white guy in a too big t-shirt and sunglasses literally you're right it's the exact editing style of this movie i i you know what i want more of i want more of that old italian man who they race against and get his cars they they race against that that italian guy
Starting point is 01:04:24 who they who they were in a competition with to get the job from Kohlhauser with this Italian guy. And then he comes back later and they race him for his cars. He also just seems like a nice guy. He doesn't seem like a bad guy. They race him. He plays chicken with him. He said such a dick move. Yeah, that was pretty rude. Paul Walker is a fucking crazy. He's going to run them down. I believe their names are Darden and Corpy. Darden and Corpy. I like Darden and Corpy. These old like these.
Starting point is 01:04:51 They stand out for how old and strange they are. Like they don't fit in this universe. Right. But he is sort of in like a muscle T2. Like he still has to be cool Miami. And it's funny. You're right. He is like he's like a friend's like a dad's friend who's an actor he's like
Starting point is 01:05:05 he wants to be in the movie it's like well play the Italian driving bag yeah it feels like maybe he was a stunt guy or something bring him back bring back Eva Mendes and bring back Cole Hauser and make him white this time bring them all back yeah dust him off and let him be white
Starting point is 01:05:20 Varone what happened to you no it's Verin now. I like how you characterized them as old fucks, Mitch. I just looked up one of the actors was 34 when this movie was made. Wow, really? Yeah. I was 34 when I saw this movie.
Starting point is 01:05:42 We would look old and Fast and the Furious now, Nick. If you or I were in it. It's true. Yeah, the guys in it are 10 years older than me and they all look younger than I do. Well, when you got money
Starting point is 01:05:54 and a fucking facialist, you'll look great. Oh, we know. Look at you, girl. You have a very extremely beautiful professional makeup on right now. But it's funny to say, like, I have a professional glam squad. When the cars are revving, you see me put my seatbelt extender on in the fucking race scenes. Yeah, my dropped car is just scraping the entire drive.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I'm just stuck on going scraping the entire drive. I'm just stuck going up the drawbridge. Truly, if the three of us were in a car, it would just be like, too slow, too sad. Just scraping. Oh, my God. Ma'am, do you know why I pulled you 11 people over?
Starting point is 01:06:47 It's only three of you? Oh Christ. Continue on. We're using all the seatbelts somehow. We're using all the seatbelts. Oh, you best put your seatbelt. Oh, you best put your seatbelt. Byer, you called it out before when Roman and Brian use one too many back and forths on every kind of like bit interaction.
Starting point is 01:07:11 And it's always too great. This, when they're driving to hit the boat, they do go, all right, you crazy. He's like, strap up, seatbelt. You're going to do it? I'm going to do it. And they were like, put it all in the movie all of it goes in don't cut a thing yeah it's so long it's so funny it's like they're going 100 miles an hour on a dirt road aiming for a moving boat it's like we all right we're settled put the fucking seat belt on we're
Starting point is 01:07:39 going bro that by by the way just the weird electric hooks that they shoot into the car like these weird and that's never addressed yeah it's so they feel like future hooks that like fuck up cars maybe they exist i don't know if they do exist but do you not think they do i think it's a completely made up thing that they don't ever explain it's just like let me hang out of the car and rip it out of my car and throw it into a cop car. And then that cop car can't go no more. In Fast Six, they do bring back the British squad has the little EMPs that land on the hood and shut the computers off. So they bring the tech back, but it's slicker and looks way less like Emperor Palpatine's lightning. I get that reference.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yes! Holy shit. I do, because I remember that. Speaking of references, how about them apples? They say, how do you like them apples? Doesn't Tyrese say it? He's like, how do you like those apples?
Starting point is 01:08:41 That phrase existed. What the fuck? You've never heard that phrase? The Good Will Hunting came out a few years before I made it famous. No? I think it was well known before then. Oh, fuck off. This is bullshit.
Starting point is 01:08:55 How do you like them apples? I think that's a thing people have said. Are you trying to say like Kohlhauser, who has worked on Good Will Hunting, was there for the filming of that scene and then went over and told Roman, Tyrese, to say that in this movie? It's a nod. It's a little nod. I think it's a nod.
Starting point is 01:09:11 He pitched an all for another actor? If I can quote IMDb, zero out of four find that interesting. Well, this is interesting. Critically, the film was not well received. It currently has a 36% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes. And a critic from the Kansas City Star said, just because you give an old car a new paint job doesn't mean it runs better.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Wow. Jesus. Salty. Hit the car analogy better than the franchise itself, arguably. Salty. A little bit of trivia. I'll throw out a little trivia while you hold on to that thought, Byron.
Starting point is 01:09:48 So much neon lighting was used in the cars that they had to have a technical specialist on set who specializes exclusively in shooting neon on film. Wow. Wow. How do you find that person? Ronnie got his second month of work ever in life. Holy shit, I haven't worked since Tron.
Starting point is 01:10:12 So this was number one at the box office. It earned 50 million during its opening weekend. And it, oh my God, it earned $236 million worldwide. A success, a big success. That's huge. And Singleton doesn't direct a ton after this. No, he does Four Brothers next, which rules also. Yeah, but why didn't Singleton direct more after that?
Starting point is 01:10:35 I mean, just as a sign of Hollywood being bad, of course. Maybe he was sleepy. He could have. You know what? Or maybe it was about the family. Maybe it was a familiar thing. Spend time with the family. But I don't know why he didn't he didn't do more stuff after like four brothers and stuff
Starting point is 01:10:49 i know he did some tv i think maybe that's where that's right and then i think he like uh is like a creator or ep on snowfall that fx show that people think he's still also 50 cent was considered for the part later taken by tyrese. Imagine 50 Cent as a Roman Pierce. Oh, man. No. Wow. No, thank you. Yeah. Let's remember this after the sixth movie.
Starting point is 01:11:12 And go like, imagine if it was 50 Cent in this last movie, what that would be like. Because it doesn't vibe for me. I like Tyrese way too much. Give me that baby boy. Give me that womb. It's a nice warm womb. I want the baby boy. I love baby boy. The warm womb, much. Give me that baby boy. Give me that womb. It's a nice warm womb. I want the baby boy. I love baby boy. The warm womb, baby.
Starting point is 01:11:28 Give me that warm womb. One day I'll get that reference. One day. Well, we've come to the end. Mitch, Liger, what would you like to promote? Check out the Doughboys, a podcast about chain restaurants.
Starting point is 01:11:46 You've both been on it. It's me and Mitch. At DoughboysPod on Twitter, DoughboysPodcast on Instagram. And check out Mitch's movie. Yeah, check out The Tomorrow War on Amazon Prime. And check out Baby Boy. It's a fun movie where you see an adult man in a womb. We were talking about it a bit beforehand, but you should watch it.
Starting point is 01:12:04 And also, you get why Tyrese man in a womb. We were talking about it a bit beforehand, but you should watch it. It's like, and also you get why like Tyrese should be a star. Yeah. Tyrese's first role, I think. It's just like first movie role or first big movie role at least. Yeah. He's really great. He fucking knocks it out of the park. Also, a nice tune, Joe Budden's Pump It Up.
Starting point is 01:12:20 You should give that a listen. It's featured in Too Fast, Too Furious. Yeah. That one, that I know. It's featured in Too Fast, Too Furious. That I've heard. Yeah, that. That one, that I know. That's in the rotation. Well, we don't have any reviews yet, but if you write us reviews, because we'll pick some,
Starting point is 01:12:37 yeah, just write. Write us reviews so we have some way to interact with you guys, okay? You want us to interact with you? Write a review. Yeah, we'll fucking talk to you. It'll be great. We'll say your dumb handle out loud. How fun will that be?
Starting point is 01:12:51 We'll cream your jeans. You'll be so excited. Creamed jeans all around, mamacita. You sound like a mafia guy threatening someone with writing in. Gabrus, it's insane. Go ahead, write in. You should write into the show. No, no, no. Come, have a seat. Go ahead, write in. You should write into the show. No, no, no, come, have a seat.
Starting point is 01:13:09 No, no, no, we're all friends here at this restaurant. No, come sit down. You're invited to a new course with us. Well, we'll be back next week with the Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift. Does it take place in Tokyo? Mostly. Ooh, she's going on a trip. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Mostly She's going on a trip Bye bye Thank you. So that was a
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