Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - A Madea Family Funeral (w/ Sasheer Zamata)

Episode Date: June 8, 2021

Lauren and Nicole are joined by comedian, actress, and writer Sasheer Zamata (Woke, Home Economics) to examine the last film in the Madea franchise—A Madea Family Funeral (2019).Follow Sasheer on Instagram and Twitter and check out Home Economics and Woke on Hulu. Next week's watchlist: Temptation: Confessions of a Marriage Counselor (2013)Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what Tyler Perry hit they should check out next.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm OK. Well, you looks bad. We here because your daddy's dead. Now I'm going to coordinate the funeral. I hope y'all can appreciate what I'm going to try to do. And if you need anything, just let us know. I know it's about funerals. I done buried a lot of men, a lot of them.

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and sometimes people who have contributed. This season will only be 15 episodes, but that's up from 10, so it's a win for everybody. And today we've experienced the final and, oh, I didn't realize it was the final installment of the Madea series. Oh, because it's fairly

recent. It's very recent. 2019, a Madea family funeral, and we'll be watching more movies uh i guess maybe more tv shows in the weeks to come uh i can't believe we only have two episodes after this i mean this has been the fastest thing that's ever happened it's been so fun i mean and i also can't wait to talk about this movie because i have a lot of opinions about this movie but um okay medea family funeral if anyone wants to watch before you listen, it's available with subscriptions on

Philo and BET Plus and Hulu. You can also watch it for a fee on Amazon, Apple TV, Google Play, and Vudu. Obviously, we're going to spoil it all, so watch it first if you want to avoid that. Before we bring out our guest, Nicole, thoughts? Okay, I

did not give a shit about any of the people who weren't Tyler Perry or those two little old ladies. Oh my god, I loved I loved how like everyone in the movie is the same age, but they all are just playing different ages. This movie

I felt like could have been a short film. Yes. They repeated themselves so many times. So many times. Also, like a lot of Tyler Perry's gags. He loves a car swerving. It's all he wants to do. It's all he wants to do.

And I mean, he had some other, I don't know if, I can't remember the character's name now, who is the guy who talks out of his neck. No, that's Heathrow. Heathrow. I wonder if he's in other films or if this was his first appearance, because that's a strong move. And he comes in two minutes in, and I was like, this is good.

This is a good sign. But then, you know, the drama was like, it was higher. It was too much drama. It was too many things. I didn't really know who anybody was. I had to keep stopping me like wait who is this person i had to like i needed a family tree again i was like what is the

relation why is it bad that he's with her like who's that like it was just but why was he hiding aunt bam and hattie may love they are two very funny people that i don't know where they belong in the grand scheme of the tyler perry universe well i looked up um uh hattie and she is like that character in like a hundred things that he's done oh so like that's her main resume is like that care she's like a beautiful young woman playing this like that's okay i guess that's like my main complaint i'm like tyler perry why can't you get an old woman to play an old woman and you could get a paraplegic or someone without legs to do that part like i was happy to see it because i was like yes you know diverse people being funny but i'm like just get the person but it also felt like there's a lot of like disparaging comments surrounding that that felt outdated um

well let's bring our guest out do you want to intro shall i intro oh i'll intro okay i'm so excited for this person this person's a comedian an actress a writer you can see them on abc's home economics hulu's woke also she's the co-host of a little podcast called Best Friends with a little person named Nicole Byer. That's me. It's the Shears of Ada! Yes! Hello, it's me. Hi. Hi. Thank you for being here. Thanks for

having me. I can't believe you just talked about all this stuff. I was like, I want to jump in and have things to say about this. Much like this film, we're going to go over it again and again. Okay, great. There will be plenty of time. So what is your experience with Tyler Perry before this? Have you seen a lot of his stuff or is this kind of the first or where are you at?

My knowledge of his movies was peripheral. Like my family watches some of his stuff. So sometimes it's been on when I've been in someone's home and I I've seen scenes and been like, wow, this is this is wild. And then like not watch the whole thing. And then like a couple of years ago, I was in Atlanta shooting and my mom was there and I wanted to find something for us to do. And Tyler was doing his farewell tour like his of his live shows. This is going to be the last run of him performing as medea live and i was like oh we should probably go see that and we saw it and i

had like no expectations i was like okay we'll see what this is like i was sobbing i was laughing i was fine i was slapping my knee i was singing it singing. It was amazing. It was, it was a gospel concert. It was a morality play. It was, it was a soap opera. It was everything. And I was not expecting to enjoy it that much, but I really thoroughly enjoyed it. It was so fun. And I was like, I can see why this ran for so long. Yes, that's so similar to our experience watching these movies because you can't put them in a box. You think it's going to be like really goofy and then you're sobbing at some funeral like five minutes later.

I mean, it's like, it's all over the place. And that's part of what's so impressive, but it's also like his downfall at times. But I feel like live would just be a blast. So wait, what you saw was not Madea's funeral. That's, there's some, this is the end of the movies and then what did what was it do you remember the name of the play you saw i think it was the farewell tour or something okay i think they i think the stage shows have had different stories but i don't actually know if those became movies I think that some of them have

oh yeah well Diary of a Mad Black Woman was a play um oh shit I used to know more I think almost all of them used to be plays except for one that we watched maybe Madea's Holiday wasn't a play yeah well we found that the ones that were plays are the most solid because they're like tested with an audience. Like he's got a really strong story. And then the ones that are kind of like he's just clacking away on the typewriter. You know, you can kind of tell. Oh, yeah. The one I saw, I honestly can't even really tell you the story.

I really don't remember what happened. I know there were a lot of people on stage. And then our favorite characters were there being great. That's all you need. And then I can't remember what else happened. Someone got cheated on, of course. Someone needed to leave somebody else. There were secrets were had. And Tyler, this movie that we watched with the drama around the cheating.

Cheating is like the main point of this movie. Yes. And some of the like reactions of like the younger people who are cheating are like so over the top. I mean, like the whole thing. I mean, I'm excited to break down the whole thing. But like when I have to look up the character's name because i didn't clock anybody's name the entire time that's a character thing where he's like i and nobody will say anyone's name out loud no i got through half of the oval before i knew everyone's name

and then spoiler he just starts murdering everybody oh my god everybody you've ever liked is gonna be found under a bed dead. I was going to ask you guys if this family from this movie was in other movies. Is this following the same family throughout? No, there's different families in Family Reunion. There's a different family in, what was the other one that's like big happy family maybe? But Medea is related to all of them. Somehow she's related to every single person in america medea like so brian who we we pieced together last week

i think is tyler perry's like neutral character brian he's in a bunch of movies as brian and he is uncle joe's son yes And Medea is his aunt. Yes. And that's, honestly, I'm amazed that I was just able to. I mean, it's incredible. It's very hard to follow. And then I'm like, who is Heathrow? So Heathrow is a cousin?

Heathrow is Joe's brother. Oh, so then it's Medea's brother too. Yes. Yeah. Oh. But like, surprise? But that is a surprise because we don't know

anything about him and Joe also always seems like he's sitting on Medea. Even when they're like fighting, I'm like, they have sex, right?

Like, I don't know. I mean, I think so. It seems as such. Also, Ryan in this movie was, he was more hokey than I've ever seen him he was so it was

he was so like i almost want to say he was so neutral that it was almost nothing yes like it was like but then in that cop scene it was like he's saying things like i was perturbed yes i did i did not enjoy this experience and i was like now you're not even a human anymore that was so odd that scene went on for 45 minutes too long you can mine this oh my god

totally because there's so much just repeating I feel like in the cop scene they're just saying over and over everyone is saying their perspective over and over again and then the cop even takes an hour to come up to the window and it was like this is just like get to it like i get what you're doing but um oh and the character i was going to say before is aj who's the one who uh cheated and with the brother's fiance or whatever and when he gets called out at the end he's like so like mad and devastated or

something he was mad a hundred percent of the time i didn't i didn't know he and carol were married like when he walked in they were both yelling at each other that i thought they were siblings or like me brother and sister-in-law yes and then they were in the bedroom together and i was like what's happening i was so confusing i had to go back to the first scene and be like, wait, what's the dynamic? Because I was so confused by everyone who was put into a bedroom together that I just didn't understand. And all of the younger men all looked alike. They really did. So like Will looked like AJ who looked like Jesse.

Which honestly, when you're cheating on people and you're having an affair it's like you got to make people look different because i'm supposed to understand this is bad right away like uh-huh yeah i mean they all i mean yeah that was so i had a really hard time keeping track of who was a sister who was a lover who should i care about and then even renee who's the one who cheats with the dad which by the way there's just so much to unpack there. She's just like a family friend is how she's like described. She was their friend. Yeah.

But then also, wait, what's the son's name? AJ? AJ's the one who was cheating. Who was cheating but then heard his dad having sex and was like, that's my daddy. And I was like, ew. Or was it Jesse who found him? Well, also, oh no, AJ found him

because he was mad at Renee. Yeah. But I also remember, also because the sex sounds didn't sound like sex. I thought someone was moving furniture. It was just like, and then she's like, oh, Anthony. And then I was like, okay,

I guess that's how he knows it's his dad because he's hearing old man grunts in the name Anthony. And then she was wearing, like, a full dominatrix outfit. Yes. I was like, okay, this is a choice. And they stand there for so long when there's a dead body. And then finally

he's not breathing. It's almost like it just hits him. Like, five minutes into, like, looking into the room, he's like, wait, he's not breathing. Like you might want to do something. But I guess they're also describing a crazy scene. They must be like, they're like, there's a ball gag. There's whips.

There's this. And they're also not showing us anything. So that was the strangest choice. I wanted to see it so bad. Why do we not see any of that? I don't know. You mean to be disrespectful to the dead? Yeah, right. But I mean, he's dead and he can open caskets. so bad why do we not see any of that i don't know be disrespectful to the dead yeah right but i mean

he's dead and he can open caskets so like what with his boner by the way which was like oh my god the boner knocking against the casket and popping it open 10 times but i will say medea fighting with the casket made me laugh very hard my mouth was agape the whole time i feel like other medea movies have made me like laugh really hard this one i was more just like huh like a lot of the time yeah yeah should we get into our news medea news media okay so tyler perry celebrated a new biographical documentary a new biographical documentary on tyler perry's life and career has been released where i won't oh okay we'll get we have to watch this so the film's logline reads despite humble beginnings tyler perry established

a successful career as a writer director and producer for stage television and film perry's acclaimed work has led to international stardom, making... Is he international? I wonder if his movies sell well internationally. Anyway. Oh, yeah. I'd be curious. Making him Hollywood's highest-paid man, Tyler Perry, man of many faces, is available

on Roku channel and Google Play as of June 1st. Ooh, it's hot and fresh right off the documentary oven why why do i not know about this i don't know it's the same reason why like i didn't realize how many tyler perry movies there are like people aren't talking about him the way they should be they really aren't like i feel like every time we have a news media segment it's it's completely They really aren't.

Like, I feel like every time we have a News Madea segment, it's completely news to me, except for when he was on the Oscars. Yeah. But, like, I don't hear on any of this stuff, and yet he's doing all this huge stuff all the time. And this feels like a really, this feels, I mean, also, why is it on Roku and Google Play? That's also, like, a random place to access it.

Don't you think? Yeah, I feel like a lot of his stuff is kind of on random, like, the Oval's on BET+, but I don't know if it's on, like, regular BET. Maybe it's just the app. I don't you think yeah i feel like a lot of his stuff is kind of on random like the oval's on bt plus but i don't know if it's on like regular bt maybe it's just the i don't know i'm obsessed with the oval we weren't sure about that because that that show got was that the one that had a lot of nudity wasn't there like something or like the sex scene was like really real oh no that was ruthless oh so ruthless the spinoff of one storyline of the oval where we still don't I am on the second season and we still don't know where this little girl is but you gotta watch the spinoff Ruthless to find out

where she's at he fully was like we are giving you a different show if you care about that character she's gone now we're not gonna answer any questions in this show so she was the first scene is this like hardcore sex scene that I was like oh it hooked

us both oh but then it lost us you know pretty quickly because there was only one sex scene and a lot of like you know interesting yelling at yelling at women like if we're gonna have a sex scene we're gonna get it all out in this one yeah okay we're gonna take a break really quick and we'll be right back we're're going to jump into a Medea family funeral. And we're back. Okay. Boy. This movie was written by Tyler Perry, directed by Tyler Perry. It was released

March 1st, 2019. And I think we should jump into this plot because it's juicy. There's a lot here. Okay. So Vivian and Anthony's children, Sylvia, AJ, and Jesse are planning a surprise party to celebrate their parents' 40th wedding anniversary while preparing everything jesse by the way this scene was this is the first minute and i'm confused i honestly was and everyone was being so nice like everyone was being so nice that it was like i've never seen a family interact this way everyone was like everyone was like very sugary so great i'm so excited we got a cake like whatever it was just like and so thanks for helping renee you always help our parents cut to she kills the dad by fucking him but yeah it's like it's a weird way to start okay it is very weird and also goes on

for a long time and nothing is said it's's just like, hello, I love you. Oh yes, I love you. This is great. People keep coming in and they don't say who's who. So yeah, that's part of why it was so confusing. And even when I rewound to try to figure it out,

I still was like, I can't. Yeah. I watched the beginning, I think three times. Cause I was like, what the fuck? Okay.

While preparing everything, Jesse tells Sylvia and AJ's wife, Carol, that he's engaged to his girlfriend, Gia, and Carol is displeased. Vivian's best friend, Renee, helps him set up and tells him she would do anything for their parents. When they ask who will be in charge of the cake, their uncle, Heathrow, tells them that he has it covered, despite their hesitancy. Heathrow and Medea, or no, Heathrow is Medea and Joe's brother. It's so funny for this summary to just say,

their uncle Heathrow says he has it covered. It's like, okay, no, what happens is Tyler Perry scoots in with no legs in a wheelchair and is talking through his throat with a voice modulator thing.

Yes. That if he takes it away, he cannot be heard. Yeah. And he is also half bald with a very long jerry-curled, like, it's like he has a half-up, half-up ponytail, but, like, shaved the ponytail part.

Yes, and he's missing key teeth. So many teeth! He only has one good teeth. One good teeth, one good tooth. Yeah, when he rolled in, I was like, can he do this? Is this okay? I don't know.

Are you allowed to do this? This is 2019. I know. That's where I felt the same way. I was like, okay, well, it's absurd, which is what I like with Tyler Perry. I like when he gets like really crazy. But then I was like, this character is so, I mean, it is probably offensive on a handful of levels.

And then he's like, he changes the room like so much with his presence. Like he comes in and he's just like in a sketch show. Like he's just doing something completely different. It's all normal until he enters the room. Yeah. Very grounded performances. then boy he throw is it's like uh if someone kept throwing like a wrench into a room while you're having a conversation you're like what what why that's i mean it's loud why i gotta applaud the actors

they did a really great job of just really dealing with some insane characters. Most of their job was sitting around watching the, Madea talked, Tyler Perry talked to himself over and over again. And then they go, hey, now stop that. And then more of the same.

Yes. I got to say, you should watch Dire of a Mad Black Woman. Only, I can just pull the scene for you. Kimberly Elise sits there stone-faced as Tyler Perry types in a computer in the funniest way I've ever seen a person

type on a calculator. Oh boy. But that's like what he asks people to do. He's like, I'm going to be a Looney Tune and I need you to just be normal. It feels like it'd be more fun when it's just you and one of his characters. But then the scenes

where there's like four tyler perry's where then you know there's like stand-ins sitting there for each of them it's like it would feel like nothing is happening like you know and then because i feel like because he's directing himself and you see it sometimes in the bloopers it's like he's having fun then he stops it then he's doing something else and he's having fun and he stops it so it's like you're kind of just like a witness yeah you're just watching this man have a nice time with himself you're just an extra at that point so okay is it what is it vianne by i don't remember how they said that it's v vivianne oh i guess it's not vivianne that's what i was calling her vianne i don't know how i don't remember how they said it, but, and Anthony, okay.

They show up too early to the party and the kids send them away. Um, Vian had to do work at the church and Anthony says he needs to do some shopping. Okay. So I don't, why, what?

No, it was just weird. I was like, okay. Like why, why not go somewhere together? I don't know. It was just a very, it seemed very pointed that I was like, oh, okay. go somewhere together i don't know it was just a very it

seemed very pointed that i was like oh okay so something was going to happen yes oh yeah i think it's just for the audience to be like wait he said he was going shopping and then he didn't so and you only see him for like one second and then that's kind of why i would have liked to have seen him with the ball gag and stuff yes it was more like continuing like that it's kind of even funnier that a man that you only saw in one scene is then dead with that situation like that makes it interesting maybe they forgot to like book him that day they were just like oh my god i would not be surprised if that was part of it they're like we're moving so fast he's not here just go we don't need to show it well yeah that one short woman jumped on the bed to like maybe suck his dick so he could come back to life or whatever

that was that whatever body was laying there did not look like his body no which made it more confusing yes i already don't know who these people are so is so is aj in the family whose dad is this right and that was such an insane thing i mean that character is so funny hattie the little old woman but then she like jumps on the couch and they're like that's not his mouth it's like it's crazy like what she's gonna suck a dead person's dick like this is insane and, what is her problem? I guess I'm like, as a pitch. Oh my God, that's so funny. But like in actuality, when you say it out loud, it's like, you're going to suck a dead

man's dick. Like that sounds so terrible. Also with Patty in the beginning, at some point when they're like waiting to be picked up, she said something like she gave her husband antifreeze to kill him and then they kept and then they moved on she killed her husband and maybe two more and then they were just like oh hattie let's get in brian's car i was like wait hold on no one cares about anything like that in his movies like they sure don't truly say the most insane thing and then they're just like anyway and i wonder if it's improvised or if that's like that in his movies. Like they should truly say the most insane thing. And then they're just like, anyway,

and I wonder if it's improvised or if that's like actually improvised. And then Tyler's like, that's funny. Leave it in. And you're like, but that's crazy that this woman confessed to murdering her husband. And it's part of what's like, what's lacking with the improv is like,

it would be more fun to watch them react for real and have to deal with that and then get distracted by the cop or whatever it is and move on like right there could be some so much more humor there but like instead it's just these weird they also don't care that aunt bam has to pee a little like she's like is there gonna be bathrooms on the way and they're like oh fuck you i know just a drop it's like she's old. Yeah, she's gonna have to pee. So maybe she should have taken that diaper. Yeah, and then she did pee like nine times.

Brian drives Medea, Joe, Aunt Bam, and their friend Hattie to the anniversary party since they're all relatives. Wait, they are? I gotta work this out. I don't think Hattie and Bam are. Right? I don't think so either.

I don't know. Because Joe made it sound like he definitely fucked Bam. And Hattie wanted to fuck Anthony's dick, so she's not related to him. Yeah, I really hope they're not related. Who knows? On the way, they deal with a manic, rude police officer. To say the least.

Okay, that scene was absolutely insane. It was stressful. It was so stressful. They're talking about how they might get, or, you know, Uncle Joe keeps saying that Brian's gonna get shot for dealing with the cop. Uh-huh. They don't, like, Brian's complying,

but, like, everyone wants him to drive away. And then the cop takes forever to get out of his car. And then when he comes over, he's basically like an insane freak. He was like screaming and telling him. And I think, you know what my problem with it was? It's like,

I think it would have been funny if the person who was the cop was like less scary. Yeah. Like he was actually so aggressive that it was like not fun but then he's telling him like open the glove compartment with your left pinky or whatever which is like that you know it's a funny thing you can't do that you can't do what he's saying yes but it wasn't funny it was just scary yeah i think if he was friendlier and then asking him to do ridiculous things i think that might have been a better commentary as opposed

to just like showing what happens before someone gets shot totally yeah that was it was yeah that was just actually what happens and it was really scary and stressful yeah and then he goes away and checks brian's id and then i guess comes back and finds out that brian was a pastor or something what was it but they i guess they were like, they found out what Brian does for a living, but I was like, that's not on your driver's license. No, and even Googling. It's not. No.

Wait, so what does he do for a living? He's a pastor? No, he's a lawyer. Oh, because I thought it was that he was religious or something, because they said like, God bless you. There's something religious or something. No, I'm pretty sure he's a lawyer, because he got medea off and medea goes to jail right

it is so hard to follow yeah why didn't they just say oh they must know you're like uh maybe he's like the district attorney or something and it's like just say that i mean yeah they just said your job yeah why didn't they say what the actual job was probably because tyler perry doesn't know his actual job is he's like i don't know let's keep it vague yeah and even if brian's never had an encounter with the police before i don't believe he would react this way i don't believe he'd be so oblivious and dumbfounded and be like i'm having a really bad experience right now. What in the world is this? Now this is not how you talk to people. Okay.

It was so weird. You know that this has happened to other people. Yeah, it was bizarre. That felt like this scene could have really used a tight script. And it felt like they really didn't have one. Especially because it's a sensitive scene. Totally. You gotta take care with that.

And Medea's like because i i feel like you can see him having fun with himself that like like the the improvised moments so they're trying to what i what i think is happening is like medea improvises something and then brian has to say something that makes sense for like everything medea has said but then it kind of is like they kind of go back and forth having a very boring conversation because it's like, yes, you did say that. Yes, I did. Okay, you know, like there's nothing being added.

And I would have really, I think that scene could have been half the length and like way more effective if they just like knew what everyone was trying to get at. Yes. But I think he's just moving too fast and he doesn't have, you know, everything fully scripted. Oh, so Aunt Bam is Medea's cousin and Hattie Mae is just her partner in crime.

Okay. I'm still confused. Boy, I mean, Medea truly has just the biggest family maybe in the world. It's so big. She has so many like core families. Like every movie has like a different family that's like got a whole, you know, she's deeply involved with.

Yes. I don't know how that's possible. Yeah, she spends a different holiday with a different family. You know what I got to say about this movie? It feels as if Tyler Perry has not evolved his movies to now. Like this movie felt the same as Dire of a Mad Black Woman.

That was 10 years ago. Yeah. Like it doesn't feel current in any sort of way. Yeah. Yeah. I do think that cop scene was an attempt at that because, you know, in 2018,

19, I mean all years, but also we were definitely dealing with a lot more frequent, like, videos of people getting murdered by police officers. So I think that was a way to address that, but not. There was actually no, like, nothing. Who learned a lesson after that? Nobody. Because Brandon got away because of his job, which we don't know what it was.

So even that didn't clear anything up. No. Yeah. It was. It was. That was just a weird scene. Yeah. It was an attempt at.

Yeah, for sure. Trying to do a commentary, but just like missing it. Yeah. Okay. So when they get to their hotel, catch anthony having an affair with renee in the next room anthony's son aj is sleeping with gia his younger brother jesse's new fiance anthony suffers a heart attack and is rushed to the hospital he's later pronounced dead when they're at the hospital and the doctor's just like who's anthony's wife and she's like i am

he's like he's dead he didn't make. I was like, you're bedside manner. I like, I do like that. But do you commented on that? I was like, I don't know. She's just going to walk away. She's not going to ask for your insurance or anything.

She's good. That's it. That was what it really was. I'm so sorry. Walked away, but he's dead. He didn't make a woman said her scripted line. And then in the moment,

Tyler Perry's like, ah, shit, that's not how that happens. Also, they were not in a hospital waiting room. They were definitely at the Delta Lounge. Like, they weren't. I've never seen chairs like that at a hospital. Also, the order of operations was very confusing. So, like, just Medea and Joe and Brian were at the hospital, but the rest of the family, where were they?

It took them a while to get to the hospital? Why weren't they all there together? They all walked out the door together. Like, okay, so AJ, wait, let me see. AJ is having an affair with Gia, okay? And then he goes over to the room, finds out that it's Renee, but like mainly is just mad at Renee in that interaction, even though the dad is like dying because I guess he's not dead.

He was like, I'm going to leave if you go over there. I was like, why are you leaving? Maybe it's because she didn't want the dad to know. I was just it was also there's only one hotel in town. What a coincidence. And then Brian walks in. They're all at a hotel. Yes, and they're right and they're sharing a wall.

Huh. Crazy. And then when Brian comes in, he's like, hello, AJ, what are you doing here? Oh my God. Yeah, it was so wild. He was a different Brian than every other movie. I know.

Well, it seems like he, who knows i don't know how much tyler perry puts into every character but it seems like brian was a last thought like a lot of character work was done for media joe oh yeah a little bit for heathrow but not a lot and then for brian i feel like he's just like he's the straight man but that doesn't mean that that person can't have a personality or history. Totally. But I think in other movies, Brian was almost attractive. Like, he was almost like a cool, like, easygoing kind of, like, voice of reason. And he would have, like, quipped back to Medea.

This one, he was just like a bucket of Jell-O. Oh, yeah. He was nothing. It was weird. So, AJ, Medea, Joe, Aunt Bam, and Hattie keep the exact cause of death from the rest of the family. Renee and A.J. blackmail each other to keep their secrets hidden, and A.J. blames Renee for his father's affair and death. There's no way this movie should have been two hours long. Because they somehow kept this secret for an hour.

They kept that somehow kept this secret for an hour. And I was like, but the family absolutely would ask more questions. They asked some questions and then they would get brushed off. But it's like, no, you would actually want to know why. Why was my husband at a hotel? How did he die? How did you even find him? Like they were OK with these unanswered questions all the way to the funeral.

And that was the most torturous part of it was them hiding this fact from the mom and then hiding the Renee from everyone else. It was getting annoying because truly we know that they shouldn't know, but I'd almost rather see what happens once they find out because that's more exciting than just keeping a secret for a long time when also it's so obvious that aj is mad at renee and being a complete asshole to her

every time he sees her and then someone's like what's up with that and then he was like nothing and it's like okay like i think i'd probably keep asking questions at that point too like why are you cornering her and like yelling at her yeah i feel like 45 minutes of this movie nothing happens it's just a lot of fucking nothing yeah yeah so vianne asks medea to play anthony's funeral or to plan sorry i was like wait she's gonna play it to plan anthony's funeral and says she wants to have it in two days, which makes everyone suspicious because everyone's like, a wedding shouldn't happen this quickly.

I mean, no, I'm sorry. A funeral shouldn't happen this quickly. Why is she so quick to bury him? The undertaker at the funeral gives Medea, Aunt Bam, and Hattie a creepy vibe and informs them that Anthony died smiling and that the casket can't close because of Anthony's erection. Now, also, he had a gag in his mouth, so he probably wasn't smiling.

Oh, that's a great point. That is a good point. Well, maybe they took the gag out and it was a smile, but I don't see that happening around the gag. That's like a horror movie. At the funeral, numerous mistresses from Anthony's past, numerous,

yeah, like a thousand, from Anthony's past show up like a thousand from anthony's past show up which upsets vn and the service lasts for hours until the casket abruptly opens due to the penis popping it which is so crazy and i understand that rigamorris is a thing but i don't think it affects your dick like that and i don't think it like goes up and down. The funeral guy was like, he took a pill. And wrecked. Or he was like, I, that, okay. The guy was creepy, but I was like, he could have even been creepier.

He was just like a little weird, but I was like, this is an opportunity. But then it feels like only Tyler Perry gets to do stuff. That's that crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Too weird. Yeah. only Tyler Perry gets to do stuff that's that crazy. Yeah, he'd be too weird. Yes. It is interesting that Tyler Perry lets very few people in his movies be as strange as him.

We have, what's his name? What's Clara, what's her name? Is her name Clara? Clara's dad? What, Mr. Brown? Mr. Brown gets to be weird. Aunt Pam, Hattie,ie and like that's it yeah yeah they also had um a ton of like internet comedians in that funeral scene like joanna scammer

shirlene that i don't know i can't remember his name but he does like a lot of gospel choir videos in the choir was the lady in all black who like has a whole scene. Yeah, okay. She's very funny. Oh, that's cool. I was expecting each of them to get a moment, but they kind of really didn't. And it was like, which is like, you know, that is still nice that Tyler is putting them on to like put them on a big screen like

that. But I was like expecting them to each do their thing. I feel like they just said Joanne the scammer and then like that was it like i wound it to be like oh oh okay so yes that's that's all it was yeah yeah but that would be that's like exactly what you'd expect like there would be a reason for all of them to be cast not just like but maybe he maybe he did and he was like honestly it's gonna be three hours if i let them do this and i gotta cut it have so many jokes that I need to get in there.

But it's like, yeah, just cut the improv with yourself. It's so wild that Tyler Perry is just literally talking to stand-ins and then being like, all right, move. That's why it's so not great in so many moments, though, when it's just him talking to himself for a long time. Because there's nobody throwing in anything different. Like it's just, it's so it's just his perspective kind of in a different wig over and over again. And then like,

it doesn't build because he's improvising probably with someone who's not prepared to improvise. So like there's no like joke coming back. And then, so he's writing already in his head what he's going to say back. But then, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, it's not, it's not fluid. his head what he's gonna say back but then you know what i mean like it's like it's not it's not yeah boy i wonder what the order is too because

like what if you think of something as medea but you've already changed your makeup and hair to be heathrow do you go back as medea and do a pickup or do you just move on huh i wonder i highly doubt it based on how fast we know everything is made. Like it just, there's no time. I mean, in the bloopers, there was something that surprised me. So one of the men walks in with suitcases, but his arms are flexed. And I thought that was so funny. Kind of as Medea is like, hold it, hold it by your side.

Hold it, hold it like a normal person. All right, let's try it again. Let's try it again. He got three chances to get it right. And I was like, so that's what you take your time on. Not acting takes. And it felt like such a man. Yeah, you look too muscly.

It felt like such a man's problem to be almost jealous of this other man who comes in with these bubbling muscles. That's what it read as. Which fully were showing through every shirt he had. That's like his body. He can't help it. It is. He's ripped. He's like, that's what my arm looks like when I hold a suitcase. He comes in and he's holding the suitcases like

up by his sides and he's clearly flexing. And then Medea is like mad and jealous and makes him do it a bunch of times. And yeah, he can never he never is able to put them down his arms like cannot do that yeah they're actually like still up he's like I am trying

to lower them but my muscles are too too thick oh also in that funeral scene with one of the messages the tattoo that said Anthony's chick did you clock that I didn't see that girl the pink hair I didn't see that. The girl with the pink hair. Oh, I didn't see that.

Oh, the one who Joe's hitting on? Joe's hitting on. She passes him. And under her shirt is a tattoo that says Anthony's chick. And the worst gross graffiti lettering I've ever seen. No one would get that tattoo. But I guess that was just one of his hoes. And she loved him so much she got a tattoo.

And why is everyone so obsessed with Anthony? Like, I feel like we could have used a scene of getting to know him besides like, hello, I'm here for the party. Goodbye. Like we didn't get anything out of him. And yet he has 50 mistresses.

Like Medea's like, if you, she, she's like, if you know, Anthony as a friend, go to that side. And then like all the women stand up and he's like, and if you know Anthony as a friend, go to that side. And then like all the women stand up and he's like,

and if you know Anthony biblically or like whatever, like raise your hand. And then everyone's raising their hand and no one has a problem with the fact that they are one of 50. Like all the women are just like me and like they don't care. They don't look around. They don't care that there's like a million. Also, how'd they get an invite?

Who invited them to this funeral? You know, you know, Tyler Perry didn't think about the logic. He said, wouldn't it be funny if all the mistresses showed up here? And it was. It was. So after the funeral, AJ drunkenly reveals Anthony and Renee's affair. Renee exposes AJ's affair with Gia. After finding out, Carol decides to finally leave AJ.

Jesse and AJ fight. Vivian or Vian tearfully reveals that Anthony has been cheating on her for years and she only stayed with him to protect her family. She realizes she needed to start living for herself. When AJ scolds her for being weak, she retaliates by saying he's spiteful and immature. This scene was long. This was dramatic as fuck.

It was a lot of talking like this. And you'll never understand what a woman goes through for her family. I did love Vianne's speech. And I was mad that she didn't get an opportunity to say anything throughout the film. She had five lines until that speech. Most of her stuff was just reacting to other people or just like, yes, thank you for the prayers. Can you take the suit to the funeral? OK, goodbye.

And then then this epic speech where I was like, which I think a lot of women her age probably feel like you get married. You need support to take care of your kids but like you're just gonna turn a blind eye because you need to keep your family together i fucking yes i was like i love hearing this perspective this is amazing and she's and i love here that she's like i'm not weak i'm strong because i kept this family together i kept food on the table and i kept you guys housed that's what i did that's the sacrifice I made and now I'm living for my life. And I was like, I love this. Why couldn't she speak more throughout this movie?

I know. We didn't get to know her personality at all. And that was like, it felt like a play. That felt like a really nice, dramatic monologue from a play. She goes on for like five solid minutes. I mean, at least. A very long time. She is not interrupted. She's speaking on this subject yeah no one even

tries to interrupt her they're like this is her monologue time mom has never spoken before wow and they're all like he did what and i feel like aj this is like so tyler perry to have aj who is also cheating be the one who tells a secret because he loves to have someone go i know your secret too and then they expose each other yeah so that was kind of insane and then aj's like still on his high horse even though he's clearly like also very wrong yeah and he when she gets when he scold when i'm sorry when she scolds him he's like his that's when his reaction is like so over the top like he's he's like feeling like i like i feel like he was gonna like take off like he was just like standing there like moving but not saying anything like it was just wild

so okay the next morning aj tries to apologize and reconcile with carol who by the way like carol i feel like i didn't catch like at all, like throughout the movie. Yeah. Like who cares about Carol? Like I when they were having that conversation, I was like, oh, yeah, her feelings are hurt. And then what is also so crazy. It's OK. I'll just read this for all.

He wants to reconcile for all the pain he caused her. He tells her he's hoping they can get back together. She declines and tells him she wants to live freely while this is happening it's like medea is predicting what aj is going to say to carol and he says it in time with medea and it's like there's no you basically get no redemption for that character because it's like an improv game now he's gonna say i love you now he's gonna say i want to take you back and then medea's like, now he's going to say, I love you. Now he's going to say, I want to take you back. And then Medea's like, how many times do you think we've heard all this stuff before? And I was like, what, whose side are we on?

Like, do we care that AJ reconciles with Carol or is he like a villain now? I mean, I did think it was funny. It did make me laugh. The repeating and saying at the same time. Someone should have called Medea out and been like, shut up. Like, I'm like, they're on the couch right there. They can hear you. Also, why would they have this conversation right in front of Medea?

What's his name? AJ comes downstairs and then Medea threatens to hit him or something. And he's like, yeah, this is a perfect time for me to really have a heartfelt moment with my wife right now. In front of all these people. And try to fix everything. She's about to leave him. Yeah.

It's like, the stakes are high. And then Medea, what she's saying is flip-flopping back and forth. Like, she's telling Carol, like, well, some people leave their spouses too quick just because they cheated and you need to take time. And then while they're talking, she's like, now you need to go and have time for yourself

because he needs to be, he needs to grow up and da-da-da-da-da. And you need to go to couples counseling. And you need to be by yourself. So it's like, what is it? Well, that's Medea. Medea needs to be he needs to grow up and da da da da da and you need to go to couples counseling and you need to be by yourself so it's like what is it well that's medea medea likes to be like here's what you need to do but also i don't know i'm a d.a.d. like the biggest train wreck like the idea that anyone would listen to medea who drives her car into a fucking burger restaurant and gets no consequences. She drops a car with a forklift. Medea's a mess.

Somebody should put a reel together of Medea's greatest moments of being a lunatic. That's all I want. Of this full cartoon character. The movie ends with Vianne saying, I'm going to go live for myself and she wishes the family luck as she leaves for las vegas with roy who is mike tyson who just comes out of nowhere and i was like oh is mike tyson are we good with him again i don't know isn't he still

bad wait yeah 28 well where are we now what happened because he was in the hangover which i feel like was like a huge comeback for him. But that was probably like 20 years ago now. I have no sense of time. Isn't he bad? Yeah, that was like early. Did he do something? Is he bad?

I don't, I'm not really recalling anything. I can make up stuff, I guess. I can make up stuff. I can make up stuff. I thought he was generally beloved. But I feel like he, let's see, Mike Tyson criminal. Nicole, while you look that up, I just looked at the trivia. Guess how long? Okay, I'm going to say it's this year guess how long it took

to make this movie um let's two weeks less than a week no fucking way that's insane I mean we're gonna like the last episode we're gonna watch

Tyler Perry made this in 45 minutes. And make $10 billion. A billion real time. Less than a week. That's amazing. I can't do anything in that amount of time. That's wild. I'm truly stunned.

That's a long movie. We always talk about Acrimony was shot in eight days. Now, this one is less than a week. Less than a week. I don't even know i don't even know why you would want to do that like that's just too much because i guess you don't have to pay for the equipment you don't have to pay for people's time for but he's a billionaire i know yes money is literally no object so like if you just go we can fund this with what and also i'm sure he's funded by studios for all these. Oh no, he has his own studio.

But I mean, this is with Lionsgate, I believe. Okay, okay. So there's money for the movie. And like, what? Like to be in this and be done in a week is just like beyond me. I've had like three lines in a movie and worked 10 days. Yeah, I've done truly. Yeah, I mean, same. I've had like three lines in a movie and worked 10 days. Yeah, I've done truly.

Yeah, I mean, same. I've had like two lines in something. I'm like, oh, you guys need me for 17 days? Great. Yeah. I have it blocked off. So in 1992, Mike Tyson was convicted of rape. Oh.

And was sentenced to six years in prison. But it seems like people forgot about it after that because. Seems like it. Yeah. He had that hangover thing yeah he had like a pigeon show what what's that he had a show about pigeons he did in what sense like training them like training pigeons what this is real it is your it is real i was like i think you're crazy but there's a picture of him in a wig and holding a pigeon kissing it wait is this tongue out i don't know so mike tyson he's a former heavyweight champion baddest man on the planet he's also a noted pigeon enthusiast

who's a pigeon enthusiast pigeons are the worst mike tyson how wild there's 350 pigeons he what he kept 350 pigeons that's disgusting i don't i don't understand well i guess if you get hit enough you will do something weird like love a pigeon okay and he's also i mean yeah i think it's really bad he's in a 2021 mike's hard lemonade ad as well so he's doing great he's doing really great but so he went to jail for six years but he was let out after three interesting but yeah when you first google mike tyson it doesn't come up. I had to Google Mike Tyson criminal. Mike Tyson, what'd he do?

There's gotta be something there, right? Okay, so Medea Family Funeral is the 11th and last film in the Medea film franchise, and it's the first appearance of Heathrow. Why introduce a new person in the last installment of this series.

Because that's Tyler Perry. He leaves you wanting more. That's so funny. Also, I actually remember when this movie came out and the advertising for it looked like Medea was going to die. I remember there would be a picture of a coffin. I thought that it might be. It's the final one. And I was like, oh my God, he's going to kill Medea.

But he did not. That would have been so much more interesting, though, because meanwhile he killed off someone we didn't get to know at all. Yeah. Medea's going to die eventually. I don't think so. If you had Medea's funeral and then people were speaking about Medea and then Medea popped him out of the casket to say something,

that could be really crazy. What a treat that would be. That would have been great. To go through like 45 minutes to an hour of no Madea and people mourning Madea, then Madea being like, good afternoon. Is she here? I would love it. I just want to see what you had to say. Boy, I didn't love this movie, but I love medea i always loved medea also medea had a different makeup artist this movie because it was not okay she looked pretty rough uh

the or they weren't lighting her well but then again now i know they had less than seven days to shoot this there was two hour movie i also noticed while they're during the credits there was like 16 hairstylists. I don't know if you noticed that. If it was a hairstylist and then like so many names and I was like, oh,

I'm sure. I guess if you're not stopping and you're able to run in and touch up every single person. Right. Like I can imagine each person on their own just so that it would be fast.

You don't have to wait for anyone to get ready. But like, we've talked about this before, that like oftentimes the hair and makeup is not great. And it's like, he's moving so fast that not everyone can do, like no one can do their job to the height of their ability.

So you just have like, like, I mean, even Medea not having her makeup done, it's like, well, she probably was Heathrow one second before. And then they were like, slap lipstick on Heathrow, unblock the teeth and let's go.

I mean, you are right. And then there was one point where Joe had his dentures in his mouth and then Tyler was having trouble with the

the block out of his teeth and that made me laugh. Yeah, the blooper where he's like the dentures were popping out. That was funny. I enjoyed the bloopers.

The bloopers were fun. This film was nominated for seven Razzie Awards, including Worst Picture, Worst Supporting Actor, Worst Screen Combo, Perry, Perry, Perry, and Perry. That's just mean. That's really funny. That's really funny. Worst screenplay

and worst prequel, remake, or ripoff. Oh my God. Well, the film currently has 11% fresh rating

on Rotten Tomatoes with a critic from Rolling Stone writing, it's lights out for Madea as Tyler Perry ends the drag reign

of his most beloved comic creation. This is the 11th and final film in the Madea franchise, and it's a slack, formless, monotonous mess. And yet Madea still gets in her licks. Your call.

Oh my God. Your call. Audiences, this is different than most of the things that we learn. Audiences did not like this film for the most part. It has a Rotten Tomatoes audience score of 30%. Its budget was $20 million, but it did gross $73.3 million domestically. So, I mean, people didn't like it, but they went

to see it. But they did support it, yes. I mean, this one makes sense that the audience didn't like it. Yeah. Because I feel like we've been pretty, you know, keeping in the same opinion of the audience most of the time with the ratings. Like, we're like, even if it's poorly rated, we're like, this one was really fun, and I don't care that it was, you know, keeping in the same opinion of the audience most of the time with the ratings, like where like, even if it's poorly rated, we're like, this one was really fun. And I don't care that it was, you know, technically bad, but this one just, it was, it was boring. I mean,

I also like to have it be done in a week. Like this is, this is the problem. It's like, wait, do it for a month and see how it could be. I feel like it'd be so much better. Yeah. You'd actually get to like work on each scene until it made sense. But Tyler has like weird flexes where he's like, look at this. I'm the only writer in this writer's room. It's like, no, that's not good. Or like, look, I filmed this in a week.

Also not good. Like, I don't know why you think this is impressive. It's not a race. It's not. It's not just like who can do it with the least amount of people. We would like you to actually create a thing. Yeah. If he could shoot a movie a week

for that's 52 movies that's money like and they are making money because it's like i did this in a week and i made 72 million dollars how many of you people can make 72 million dollars in a week the answer is truly nobody yeah yeah in that aspect i truly revere him for that but then it's just like i agree with you lauren if he just took a month two months to shoot these movies they might be like genuinely like great and he might cross over to like a different audience totally because i think like some of them we liked a lot where I feel like they could be

like those movies that you rewatch over and over again that are just like kind of in that sort of pantheon of like fun comedies or well the thing is

he also doesn't fit into a genre but that doesn't really matter. But like when you the idea of watching them again doesn't really appeal to me because I'm like

it's half the fun of it is the surprise and like disbelief by like every scene like how it's happening and how it's unfolding and like if i already know that i mean i'm not really as interested plus they're all way too long they're so long but i feel like dire of a mad black woman not to keep bringing that up i feel like that was like an hour and a half that was the best one still i think so that in medea's was it medea's family reunion where i was like sobbing at that funeral scene yeah the funeral was really good it was that was really emotional but i don't know they they that was a good one that was the one too where they were like the family secrets that came out were really dramatic.

And I think it was only Medea, not really other Tyler Perry characters. Yeah, I don't think Joe is in it. I think we don't like Joe. I don't like Joe. I think we like when Tyler Perry is Medea, and then we get a little bit of Brian, and then that's it.

Joe doesn't bring much to the scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joe is creepy. He just smokes weed and wants to hit on people. There doesn't bring much to the scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Joe is creepy. He just like smokes weed and wants to like hit on people. Like there was a dead man on the ground, a lady dressed in bondage. And he's like, I like her. And it's like, read the room, sir.

There's someone dead. Someone is dead. You know what? Because it feels like in that moment, you're like, okay, so Tyler Perry took a moment to put on each costume and have his reactions. So you just go, what would Joe say? And it's like 10 minutes of him just improvising as Joe about how he wants

to fuck that woman, even though it's totally inappropriate. Like because you don't have a script or people playing off of him playing himself, you never ground any of them enough, which would make it funnier like to be able to ground them and then build from there. But you just basically go like

he's kind of one note yeah but it doesn't matter yeah our opinions don't matter also I'm available for a week to shoot a full length movie

with Tyler Perry if you're listening honestly the schedule sounds amazing for life you know purposes you can just fly

and go do this and then go back to whatever you were doing. It's like, what did you do? Oh, I had a lunch break and flew to Atlanta. Fucking shot a whole ass movie and flew right back. And you only have five lines and one monologue and you'll be out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Well, that one was a bust. Yeah. Yeah. We've come to the end, Sashir. Do you have anything you'd like to plurg? I'm on plurg. Yes, I do.

Good afternoon. Would you like to plurg something? I'm on Home Economics on ABC. All the episodes air, so now they're on Hulu. And I'm also on a show called Woke woke we're about to shoot the second season soon but you can catch up on the first season which is also on hulu and best friends podcast of course with my friend nicole byer yeah it's good i like it and all my social media is at the sheer truth and that's it thank you so much for being here i love woke by the way it's so good excited for the second season thank you very much um i do feel like we missed an

opportunity to call the the plurge segment yes yeah because now it's time for five hallelujahs which everyone you know loves when i say and they think it's so good. It's my favorite thing. I love it so much. So here's one of our five-star reviews from Han Solo Needed a Lawyer. What a dang treat. I binged this entire show in a month. I feel a bit crazy, but I do not care. I love Nicole and Lauren so much. They are national treasures.

Love the real MCU so much. Listening to Lauren say hallelujah makes me cackle every time. Well, thanks. My suggestion, do 10 episodes of a different series, come back and do more Tyler Perry. Would love to hear you watch Fast and the Furious, even if you've already seen it. Thank you for everything. Oh, that's a good idea. I mean,

I've seen all, I love Fast and the Furious franchise. I've never seen any of them. I mean, that could be an interesting angle if one of us has seen something and the other one hasn't. Okay, because I have no bad opinions about it. I mean, that could be an interesting angle if one of us has seen something and the other one hasn't. Okay, because I have no bad opinions about it. I know. It's perfect. I'm open to that.

I love it. I took Sashir to see Hobbs and Shaw. She did not want to see it. And then as we walked out of the movie, Sashir went, that was fun as hell! In a way that I've never seen a person get excited about a movie. I loved it. I had so much fun. I've also seen zero Fast and Furious movies.

I was like, do I need to know any background? She's like, no. And I didn't need to know any background. I still had a great time. That's hilarious. Well, I'm open to that. I have no opinion on those movies. I really, I've just avoided them because they're about cars.

Honestly, Lauren, it's not about them because they're about cars. Honestly, Lauren, it's not about cars. It is about family. Vin Diesel's character, Dom, he really, he is just a very family focused person. And that's what's important.

And then he, like, whatever. And there's what's important. And then he like, whatever. And there's a new one coming out and Helen Mirren's in it looking badass as hell. Uh-huh. And my friend John Cena's in it. My best friend John Cena. Yes. And they were rumored to make a lady spinoff. And I was like, I need them to do it.

As soon as it's like a go and it's like officially announced I'm gonna like tell my reps to be like they need a comedic relief they need a ludicrous let me be ludicrous yeah oh my god that'd be so good imagine driving a car real fast being like beep bop boop boop you already do that

I do I love driving fast guys thank you so much for those reviews. Please write more reviews. We will read one on the next episode as well. Of course, it's got to be five stars if you want us to read it. And we'll be back next week with another one of Tyler Perry's works. We will see you then. Goodbye.

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