Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Ant-Man (w/ Caleb Hearon and Shelby Wolstein)

Episode Date: May 3, 2022

Nicole and Lauren sit down with their Headgum neighbors Caleb Hearon and Shelby Wolstein of Keeping Records to discuss just how cute and teeny tiny Paul Rudd is in Ant-Man. Featuring: a special cameo appearance by Caleb's roommate. **Editors note: our resident Marvel expert Leah would like us to mention that she accidentally refers to actress Kathryn Newton as Kathryn Lang in this episode. She deeply regrets the error.** Next week's movie: Captain America, Civil War (2016) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Imagine a soldier the size of an insect. The ultimate secret weapon. If you give godlike powers to everyone, it's gonna be chaos. So how do we stop him? I know a guy. Scott, I've been watching you for a while. You're different.

And I believe everyone deserves a shot at redemption. Do you? And I believe everyone deserves a shot at redemption. Do you? Absolutely. My days of breaking into places and stealing stuff... are over. What do you want me to do? I want you to break into a place and steal some stuff. Makes sense.

Are you ready to become a hero? Now, this suit has power. You have to learn how to control it. And these are your greatest allies. You're kind of cute. Whoa. When you're small, you have superhuman strength. You're like a bullet.

So you need to know how to punch. You want to show me how to punch? Show me how to punch. That's how you punch. You tried to hide your suit from me. Now, it's going to blow up in your face. And destroy everyone you care about. Scott get out of there.

Did you think you could stop the future? You're just a thing. No. I'm Ant-Man. I know. Wasn't my idea. Ooh, ooh, I'm Nicole Byer. I'm Lauren Levkus. And this is Newcomers. We are covering the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This is the ninth episode of the fifth season. Boy, oh boy. We're working our way through the Marvel Cinematic Universe with the help of fellow newcomers, super fans, and sometimes people who have, like, contributed and shit.

And this is going to be a 20-episode season. There are 27 movies. We cannot do them all, and we will not do them all. We're not going to get to them. So today we're going to be discussing the Paul Rudd vehicle Ant-Man that came out in 2015, which you can watch on Disney+, or for a fee on Amazon, Apple TV+, Google Play, and Vudu. And of course, we're going to spoil it, so get over that if you care about that. Nicole, before we bring our guests out, what did you think about Ant-Man?

Okay. I loved Ant-Man. I'm going to skip to my Letterboxd review and give it five stars. I'm giving it five and a half stars, baby. I fucking loved Ant-Man. I loved Thomas the Train. That was funny. That was good.

I loved when Thomas the Train got big. I loved when that ant got big. It was the most like a movie. Yes. It felt like a movie. It felt like there was action. it felt like there were stakes michael pena is a goddamn star funny i love him i think i saw this in theaters and i i may have fallen asleep because i don't remember none of it like not a thing that happened was uh uh you know how

you see something you're like ah yes i, yes, I remember. I remember nothing. So I think I fell asleep. I'm glad I stayed awake this time. I mean, me too. I really enjoyed it. Last night I was watching it and I was falling asleep because I was so tired. And I was like, I got to finish this tomorrow because I actually like this. And I want to watch this. Yeah, same.

Last night, pretty late night. And then this afternoon I was like, ooh, I'm going to get back from the dentist. My mouth kind of hurts. hurts gotta finish Ant-Man yeah I can't believe we liked it I'm so happy that you liked it too I was worried that it might just be me and then I'd be becoming a Marvel head and you'd be like normal and it'd be

no I think this is like universally appealing big things little things also I like you know I was watching the credits and i was like oh this is edgar wright he well he wrote it with adam mckay and with paul rudd yes paul rudd chimed in on the old script there yeah look at us naming writers of scripts now we care about these things this is so amazing how this podcast has changed us it's so great great. I truly have. Oh my God. We should just bring our guests out because I can't wait to hear what they thought of this movie. Today we have two

wonderful guests. We have Caleb Heron and Shelby Wolstein. Caleb and Shelby are writers and comedians who also host another HeadGum show that I have been on called Keeping Records. Welcome Caleb and Shelby. Oh my gosh. Hello. Hi. Hi. I love that you guys are both like, we love the movie. We did both fall asleep the first time we watched it. Couldn't stay awake, but the thing was, it really was beautiful. Kind of a movie

that puts you right to sleep, but in that way, it can be so powerful. In my defense, Thank you. I was in a movie theater and it was really dark. Yeah.

Yeah, and in my defense i um have a baby i think yeah i never get to watch anything so wait caleb shelby tell us about your marvel cinematic universe experience are you in it are you dipping in tell me i'm uh on a needs basis type of girl with Marvel I'm out I'm on the outs I'm on the outs on all superhero movies this was a big this was a big kind of venture for me to watch this

if someone tells me like hey I'm going to the movies to see this will you come it's like yeah sure but I'm never like damn it's coming out and I gotta get myself in a car to the movie theater I gotta get myself in a car to the movie theater. I'm going to get myself in a car. That's one of my favorite things about Shelby.

You can get her to do anything. She will, she will go along for fun. That's what I'm surprised by. Cause I'm like, I don't know that I would say yes, just cause people were going. I feel like I'd be like,

Oh, if I'm free and somewhere like, it's like, Hey, do you want to go to a movie? I'm like, sure. I mean, if a man asked me, I'm going,, hey, do you want to go to a movie? I'm like, sure. Why not? That's nice.

I mean, if a man asked me, I'm going. Come on. Thank you. If a man on like Raya was like, hey, first date, want to go see Superman or whatever the fuck? You'd be like, yeah. I think movies shouldn't be a first date. I don't think movies should be a first date.

Why not? You're something to talk about later after, like during Yeah, but you can't talk at all. No, because, okay, sitting at a movie next to someone, you have just silence of thinking, like, am I behaving normal for so long before you've talked about anything? Oh, see, I don't have that thought. I'll turn right to their

face and go, here are my thoughts. I'm not even whispering. How do you feel? Like, I want, I if I'm, like, chewing popcorn, I don't want to chew too loud, because that's obviously embarrassing. You can't get popcorn on a first date. Well, exactly.

You don't get popcorn on a first date. But then what am I doing? Going to the movies not eating popcorn? You eat Goobers or something. Goobers. Yuck. Goobers, Mike and Ike's. It's my favorite candy.

Nobody ever eats Goobers. What if you're trying to be, like, hot on a first date? No, I'm not trying to be hot. I'm trying to get laid, and I'm not trying to be like hot on a first date what's no i'm not trying to be hot i'm trying to get laid and i'm not trying to like suck a dick and scrape his dick with like popcorn kernels but you're gonna have like mike and make mouth it's all scraped up already red hots make it burn a little scraped up a scraped up blowjob mouth it's giving cat tongue, unfortunately. I think Twizzlers. I could eat a Twizzler pretty sexy.

I know I could. See, for me, it's like I'd have to avoid a stomach ache. I feel like I just wouldn't want to eat anything because I'd be afraid that my stomach would hurt and I'd be shitting after or during the film. It's dangerous with movie snacks. That is, yeah. You don't want to play with the tummy. Honestly, popcorn plays that game a little. Popcorn has. Popcorn really does.

Sometimes that butter is too crazy and it's like alright, I'm going to be... or you don't eat dinner and you eat a whole thing of popcorn and you're like now my stomach is trying to process what I'm doing. So much corn. More corn than we were meant to eat. Yes. I agree. But also you get to show someone how cool you are on a first date when you

sneak a whole bottle of wine into the movie and you go do you want some? Yeah one of my first dates with my husband was actually a movie and I brought clementines that I was opening during the movie which I think is the most charming thing I've really ever heard. That is so charming.

It's like wow she picked something that smells delicious. Do you remember what movie it was? No I'd have to ask him what movie it was. I couldn't get away with that. Lauren, you have a very particular energy to get away with that. If I opened a Clementine on a date,

they would not be finishing the date. I know that I would get left. There would be a bathroom break that they never came back from. What would that mean about you? Yeah, I wonder why you think that. I can't open a Clementine on a date. I just know I have limitations.

There are some things I can't get. That's a very adorable little thing to do. It is an adorable little thing to do. I've never actually opened an orange or a Clementine, so I couldn't do that on a date because I would panic. And why is that something that you have not done? Thank you. Because I've just never had the opportunity.

I don't know. You've never had the opportunity. It's never come up. It's never come up. Nobody's offered me a clementine orange. She's never gotten an unwrapped orange. She's only gotten them unwrapped. Oh my God, that's so funny.

I mean, yes. And then if you make like freshly squeezed orange juice, you have them. You don't have to peel them. Yes. And I've just never had orange slices. They don't look appealing to me. They look veiny.

I don't like oranges really anymore. I think as a kid I did, but now I think they're like too, there's too much going on in there. And like when the skin is all on it still and it's really like, no, no. Yeah. I don't like it. But you're pro-Clementine. Anti-orange pro-Clementine? I'm pro-Clementine because they're small and they're...

A little bit tartar. They're a little tart. Yeah. Do you eat cuties? Yeah. I want some cuties because I love the name. It's cute. What are you eating, Nicole?

Cuties. Oh my gosh. Should we talk about Marvel? Yes. We should get to the Daily Bugle. Yes. The Daily Bugle is our new segment this season. We're going to give a recap of what's been going on lately in the MCU.

Whoa! Viewers noticed that blood had been digitally removed from the Disney Plus series, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, as well as a few other changes that made the show less violent. According to Entertainment Weekly, an Entertainment Weekly source, the alternate cut was accidentally uploaded to the streaming service.

It was not accidentally uploaded. That's funny. Who accidentally, like, they're like, uh-oh, which, uh, but the, oops. The version without the blood on Disney's platform? We accidentally made it less violent and more palatable. Oops. I don't believe that. Oops. Oops.

I don't believe that. It's interesting. Disney's really trying to make everything, like, nice. But they, they, so does that mean they're going to put up the rough one? I don't know.

The violent one? Whatever. Okay, well. I guess we'll learn next week. We'll find out. So while promoting The Lost City, Daniel Radcliffe was asked about fan speculation that he would be cast as the MCU's Wolverine. Oh, that'd be interesting.

I appreciate that someone is clearly going like, Wolverine's actually short in the comics, he said, but I don't see them going from Hugh Jackman to me. Who knows? Prove me wrong, Marvel. A few days later, Radcliffe clarified, saying, every so often I'll get bored answering questions in a sensible way, so I'll make a joke. All right. I didn't think he needed to sensible way, so I'll make a joke. All right. I didn't think he needed to clarify. I understood that it was a joke. Well, I guess.

Yeah, I don't know. Daniel Radcliffe, he's, I don't know. He's about to play Weird Al in the movie about Weird Al. He's going to play Weird Al? And even that one's interesting because he, now look, I think Wolverine could be short because Weird Al's tall and he's playing a real person who's tall. Yeah, Weird Al's very tall and Wolverine in the comics is short. So it's, I would rather him play Wolverine than Weird Al.

Yeah. Unless they put him on like Apple boxes. Wow. I get tired of answering questions in a sensible way is such a funny thing. Like, who's coming for you? Who's coming for you? way is such a funny thing. Like who's coming for you? Who's coming for you? Now that seems to be a trend with like male actors that are British because Rob Pattinson did the same thing where he was like, oh, I actually just lie in interviews after people

were like, he's being weird in interviews. Yeah. Because there was that whole thing. I can't remember what it was. There was some whole like thing about how he like did something weird in his house or something. And he was like, it turns out he was kidding. Yeah. He was like, no, I actually don't tell the truth. Yeah. Which like, good for you. Like, I mean, I think that just makes it more fun. It's so boring to say the same thing over and over again. Oh, wait, here's what it was. He was making mac and cheese. Yeah. He had like a weird way of making mac and cheese or he like didn't know how or something. I remember it was like he was doing some interview and he was like, it was like a whole thing with that. I obviously don't remember, I guess is what

I should say. The thing with Daniel Radcliffe was that the I obviously don't remember, I guess, is what I should say. The thing with Daniel Radcliffe was that the headline became, Daniel Radcliffe says, prove me wrong, Marvel. And he was like, okay, now this is a whole fucking thing. I got to. I see. That's because everyone's annoying. Yep. That is annoying.

Why are you taking things out of context? I know. Well, I mean, I feel like he could easily be in one of, that would be fun to watch him in one of these movies, I think. I think so. I would love it. Does he need to be in another one of these, like, rabid fan-based series? That's true.

Yeah, because the last one's really gone off the rails. I think we need to get him in a cool one. We need to get him in one with the right politics. Let's get him in there. With the right politics. That's funny. Because Disney's embroiled. Embroiled?

Yeah. And it's sort of some bad politics, too. Yeah. The don't say gay bill, which I don't really understand. Because, like, what do you mean you can't say gay? And it's a law? What do you mean? It's confusing.

I kind of feel bad for disney because what were they supposed to do everyone's getting so mad at them like they i they were supposed to like threaten to i guess the park is in florida i don't know loved for them i think they financially support the candidate we're gonna make a the fucking theme park its own state we're now disney state they are making their own city did we read that on the podcast or was that! They are making their own city. Did we read that on the podcast? Or was that somewhere? They're making their own Disneyland town. Well, they already have one.

It's called Happy Town or something. Yeah, it already exists. That seems so weird. What's it called? It's like local. I don't... Anya? It's called Celebration.

Ew. Where are you from? Celebration. Celebration. I'd be like, all right, unsubscribe. You're a fucking freak. Wait, it's Celebration and Kiss Me. I don't think that they should be able to call something Kiss Me. I think that's a real

place. Yeah, I think that's a real just nasty ass Florida place. But I think it's just the like it's a county that only has Disney in it, I think. Oh, okay. Well, there's another one I think they were making though that was like a brand new one I heard about that was like it had its own politics within it or something. They're making it in California.

They're going to make it like the one that you're talking about, Lauren. They're going to make like, the whole town's going to be like in a Disney experience. Yeah, like the whole town is a Disney experience? Yeah, there's like events that you go to in the town and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems like it'd be really bad. Like, I feel like all the adults will be drunk all the time. It sounds like one of the worst vibes.

One of the worst vibes. Let's just, in 20 years, there's going to be a documentary about whatever happens in that town. That's what we know. I mean, that I'm excited for.

I'm not excited for the actual town. I don't want to go. Don't take me. I don't think you're invited. I think you have to live there. Nobody take me. Okay. Here's some more news.

Halle Berry visited Avengers Campus and posed for a picture with a Disneyland cast member dressed as Doctor Strange. Last week, or maybe not last week, I don't know, a couple weeks ago, I was like, Halle Berry's a bad storm. I wonder if this means she's going to be Storm again. Maybe. This picture, she looks like Cameron Esposito, I will say. Oh, interesting. Doesn't she look like Cameron Esposito? She does like Cameron Esposito, I will say. Oh, interesting.

Doesn't she look like Cameron Esposito? She does have Cameron Esposito hair. Looks good. She looks great, gotta say. Everyone has looked bad in her entire life. I was really wondering how Halle Berry could look like Cameron Esposito, but I do think you nailed it. But I was like, there's just no way.

No, but it's all there. All the pieces are there. Yeah, the outfit, the hair. I didn't think it could be done, but it was done. I had doubt in my heart as well, but you see the picture and it's all there. Yeah, exactly. I don't know how much I like this Dr. Strange man, though. Is he wearing Skechers?

Please. he really looks like he is he looks like he's wearing those shoes you have to wear when you work back of house at a restaurant that's what they look like with like a little booty thing over it i'm trying to really figure this out he has a really really unsettling energy yeah it's actually terrifying. Yeah, the face, everything. This wig. Disney can't afford lace fronts? What is this wig? Oh, my God. Oh, my goodness. Also, Halle doesn't look enthused.

Neither does this actor. Who made them do this? I don't know. Oh, my God. Okay, well, she was obviously there for business, not pleasure. Also, is that like a Doctor Strange thing, holding up like two fingers and a thumb? We certainly wouldn't know. I don't think anyone on here except Leo would know that.

Yeah, he's doing his magic. Okay. Ew, that's what he looks like when he does magic? It's a lot of like, yeah, yeah. Ew, do we have to watch this? Yeah, unfortunately. That really looks like you were very n, unfortunately. It's not my favorite. Very nipple stimulation.

That's what I was thinking. I was like, it looks like you're honking some titties. Yeah. Or like waxing on, waxing off on them. Yeah, there's something going on. We talked a little about his shoes, but did you guys not want to say anything about Hallie's? Oh, no, I mentioned them. I think part of the Cameron look there was the sort of like rainbowy Vans going on.

I don't know what the actual model is. Maybe they're a Disney shoe. A Disney park shoe. I don't know the model. It looks like iridescent snake skin. There's something on them.

You know what's so disturbing is that those are probably $3,500. No, I was going to say, I say vans, and I'm sure they cost $5 billion. You're totally right. They're like Balenciaga or something. Yeah. Oh, and she's also wearing a very fashionable Minnie Mouse ear thing. It's like rose gold sequins with a bow.

It's like specially made. That's nice. Holly, that's nice. Someone left a door open in the background. Okay, we got gotta take a break. Let's come back and we'll get into Ant-Man. We're back. Okay.

Ant-Man is the movie of the day. And it was written by Edgar Wright, Joe Cornish, Adam McKay, and Paul Rudd. Now, that's a team I can get behind. Yes, I like this team. It was directed by Peyton Reed, the director of Bring It On. Yes! And The Breakup. Okay!

Among other films. It was released July 17, 2015. Now, let's jump into our summary and talk about this film. Okay. Now, in 1989, Hank Pym, Michael Douglas, resigns from S.H.I.E.L.D. after discovering Howard Stark's John Slattery attempt to replicate his own shrinking technology, which Pym believes is very dangerous.

He confronts Howard, Peggy Carter, and Mitchell Carson, played by Martin Donovan, and vows to keep his research hidden. So wait, Howard Stark, Stark, that's not Tony's dad. It is Tony's dad. Oh, that is Tony's dad? But I thought Tony's dad was that man with the dark hair in Captain America. Yeah, Houdini. Yeah, both Dominic Cooper and John Slattery play Howard Stark, and they really play fast and

loose with who's going to show up to what movie. I'm supposed to believe that Dominic Cooper turns into John Slattery. Yep. That's what I'm supposed to believe. In the matter of like 10 years, I think, too, because. No. That's insane. He grew eight inches and got white hair.

Yeah, that's wild. Okay, in the present, Scott Lang, Paul Rudd has been released from... Yum, I love Paul Rudd. Me too. He's so charismatic. He's the cutest celebrity. And I love his little nose. Yeah, he's so cute.

Oh my God. And he's so funny and he's so handsome. We like him. He's so funny and cute. Okay, so he's released from San Quentin State Prison in San Francisco after serving three years for burglarizing

not robbing a former employee that fired him for whistleblowing Scott reunites with his former cellmate Luis Michael Pena who's an absolute

fucking star he's a giant star icon star I love him so much and moves in with him and his two other partners Kurt David Dust

Mulchin I liked him and Dave T.I. ooh T.I. dipping into the act and he gets a job at Baskin Robbins because they said we gotta get a Baskin Robbins commercial up in here and he's quickly fired when his boss learns about his criminal record Luis offers him a burglary job but here. And he's quickly fired when his boss learns about his criminal record. Luis offers

him a burglary job, but Scott insists that he's out. Okay, I loved the Baskin-Robbins stuff with Johnny Pemberton. I enjoyed that whole interaction. I also just was excited about this movie at this point because I'm like, it's relatable to me.

Not that I went to San Quentin prison or something but you know what Baskin Robbins is I do know what Baskin Robbins is um and I felt like it was normal in ways that these other Marvel movies are not so that was exciting so far I agree I also really love that everyone was like Baskin Robbins will always find out Baskin Robbins will always find out and I was like did Baskin Robbins have a bunch of like former convicts or ex-convicts like apply to them and they were like we'll pay good money to say in a Marvel movie

that a lot of people will see that we do not hire or give people second chances I know I know that was funny it's funny branding to like allow that yeah when I think about ice cream I think about they don't have anybody from jail there they keep all the convicts the hell out of there.

Oh my god, Leah said they try to get Chipotle first. Really? Oh, wow. Interesting. I do like Chipotle. Oh. Chipotle was like, we do give people second chances. Oh, Chipotle thought it looked bad for them. Yeah, well, I mean,

in a sense, it would have. Yeah. Well, across town, Hank Pym's estranged daughter, Hope Van Dine, I mean, in a sense, it would have. Yeah. Yeah. Well, across town, Hank Pym's estranged daughter, Hope Van Dyne, played by Evangeline Lilly, in a very cute little wig, and protege Darren Cross, Corey Stoll.

Corey Stoll was so unhinged, and every time he got crazier, I was like, I am so wet. I have to replace my couch. I love how unhinged she is. That bald head, the like, I am so wet. I have to replace my couch. I love how unhinged she is. That bald head, the like, bring in another goat. Like, I loved him.

I know. What do we know him from? I don't know. House of Cards, right? Oh, okay. I didn't watch that show. I might have made that up. No, you're right.

You're right. Okay. Well, okay. So Corey Stoll, they forced him out of his own company, Pym Technologies. Cross unravels his own project. An advanced shrieking suit named the Yellow Jacket Suit based on Pym's original technology, which he intends to use to create an army.

Okay, so through Darren's presentation, we learned that Hank had a brief stint during the Cold War as a superhero named Ant-Man. And this found found footage. Is so funny to me. So Hope speaks to her dad in private. Revealing that she and Hank. Are working together to stop Darren.

Hope asks her father to let her wear this suit. And stop this. But Hank has another candidate in mind. So Scott crashes his daughter Cassie's birthday party. The daughter was really cute. Her name is Abby Ryder Fortson. She was adorable. Very cute, but...

What's your problem? I don't know. She left a little to be desired. I don't want to shit on a child. That's not nice. That's not kind. But I just felt like maybe she was given some bad direction. And maybe they had to, you know, move the scenes a little too quickly

because I don't think they gave her enough time to grow and show some depth. Yeah. I didn't really mind that because I felt like she was cute enough to not need it in a way. She didn't bother me. I didn't think her acting was bad.

I didn't think it was bad. I think she needed time to blossom. Caleb, what do you think? She's no Jacob Tremblay. I'll say that. I think that's the truth. I think Nicole's right. I got the feeling more than once that there was a longer scene with her that got cut for time.

Like the one where they randomly flashed to her in bed and they're like, is that bad? And Judy Greer gives one answer. And then I'm like like what's going on Cassie has been recast was recast in future films not not an Ant-Man and Wasp though I thought I saw her on the

so okay no but so they gave her two chances and then fired her let me get into the world the girl they hired after her so there's a third Catherine Catherine Lang. I don't know if you guys know. But see, but see, but see. Catherine Lang from 13 Reasons?

Television's Catherine Lang is going to be Cassie later. There's something about how we're talking about this that we're saying they fired her. However, they fired Dominic whatever and gave John Slattery the part. So these movies are just switching people left and right. It's not necessarily a sign that you're a bad actor. I'm protecting this child.

Thank you, Lauren. Yeah. We need to be ready. That's a mother's love. That's a mother's love. That's a mother's love that's a mother's love there's a mother's love there's a mother's love present on the bottom having fun on a movie set but she's just having fun and they paid for her college and then some i'm sure i'm sure i'm sure two marvel movies she's set she's good she's totally good they gave her the second one to make sure she'd be supported her entire life. I just don't know.

And then it gets set her free. I don't know. They were like, you won't book again, so we'll do this. You won't book again? She doesn't have it. I will say she doesn't have it. You guys! I'm sorry.

I know it when I see it, and it wasn't there. It wasn't there. I hate to do this, but she doesn't have that thing. Okay, okay. Oh, wow. I think she just needs time to marinate a little. And I think they could have... We have to move on.

Nicole's switching up. Nicole was on our team. And then switched on. Okay, I just really think that something wasn't gelling. Maybe the chemistry was off or something something she couldn't get to the moment she needed to get to she was cute Nicole trapped me I went on this journey

only because I felt Nicole needed a hug and then she backed out at the 11th hour okay I'll go there she was not great wow she was not great wow but like if she hears this that was then and you are you now one yeah I mean so she was a little kid at this, that was then, and you are you now. One, yeah.

I mean, so she was a little kid at this time. This was still seven years ago. Now she's a teenager. Yeah, now she's probably had so many classes and coaches, and she's probably great. Well, she didn't need them at the time because she got cast twice. She was so charming with her cute little face. You're right.

And she had a birthday party, okay? So Paul Rudd shows up. That's her dad. His ex-wife Maggie, played by Judy Greer, has gotten engaged to a police officer, Jim Paxton, Bobby Cannavale. Oh, can't get enough of him. Yeah, he's super cute. Scott and Jim bicker, and Maggie reminds him that he cannot see their child anymore

if he does not provide child support. And I'm like, it's Paul Rudd, you guys. Yeah, he's so cute. Let him be a deadbeat dad who's in her life. Well, how are you like, you're not paying child support right now? It's like, yeah, he got out of prison yesterday. Give him a second. And he had a job at Baskin Robbins.

And they fired him. He's trying. Yeah, he could give them, you know, that one day of pay. Also, paying child support should not be like, she's like, you gotta pay child support if you want to see the kid. It's like child support should not be, like, she's like, you gotta pay child support if you wanna see the kid. It's like,

that's not normal, by the way. Yeah, she was like, once, she goes, I swear I do wanna talk about it with you, but you have to start paying me and then we can start the discussion. It's like, what? I know, and she has, like,

a beautiful home and she's fine. It's like, just let it, like, I understand that you need him to do this eventually, but, like, he wants to be in her life and be a supportive dad. Like, please. I'm on her side.

If you're not paying me, you're not seeing the kid. Goodbye. I mean, it's the only, you know, it's the leverage she has that she can use that, you know. I'm paying for this kid. I married another man with money

to help me pay for this kid. She married a cop. You come up here out of jail. She married a cop. You don't have no savings. Give me the money. She married a cop. She don't have no savings. Give me the money. She married a cop. She married an officer of the law.

Yeah, so she could keep arresting her husband, her ex-husband, so he doesn't come to the parties. Okay, so back at Pym Technologies, Darren uses his prototype device to murder a man who defiled him. That was crazy. He's in the bathroom with this man and he just shoots him with this gun and turns him into a little blob that you get out of a quarter machine at Pizza Hut. I would let him turn me into a blob.

I absolutely would. Sounds like he already did. I mean, he did. Maybe I should go back to therapy. I haven't been in a minute, but like, you seem to be turned on by this man murdering. You sound good. You sound great.

Yeah, you sound great. Thank you. I have all your faculties about you. I think this is good. Well, he then gets dinner with Hope, and I was so jealous watching, and reminds her that Hank never believed in either of them. Derek continues his experiments in using lambs as subjects.

So they just keep shrinking everything and turning them into little blobs. Trying, but killing. Yes. So meanwhile, out of luck, Lange accepts the burglary job offered by Louise, who heard from a friend who heard from a friend and so on about a rich man with a safe instead of town. That was really funny. And that to me, I was like, that's where Adam McKay, that's where Edgar Wright are coming in. This is like funny writing.

Each character has a little thing. I liked that. Scott, Louise, Kurt, and Dave prepare for the heist. This is like funny writing. Each character has a little thing. I like that. Scott, Louise, Kurt, and Dave prepare for the heist. They easily break into the house, and Scott uses creative methods to crack open the antique safe. However, what he finds does not seem valuable. To him, it just looks like an old motorcycle suit. All the while, Scott's being watched by an ant with a camera?

The way he breaks in, I thought that was really fun to watch him break into it when he climbed up the building that was fun and then he used like liquid nitrogen or something to like freeze the door and it popped off the fingerprint we're not talking about the fingerprint

the fingerprint DIY lifted a fingerprint oh yes yes yes really Pap went into the drawer knew exactly where everything was gonna be kind of crazy

I know he was like I know where he keeps his super glue his tape his ring of metal his ring yeah his ring of metal his ring yeah

his ring of metal I liked it when he was like this is the same stuff the Titanic was made out of and I think Luis was like

oh that shit killed Leo and that I really that got me good yeah Luis is really funny yeah I truly found

this movie to be a treat I really liked it I liked it too I would watch it again which I'm like shocked to hear come out of my mouth yeah and I I truly found this movie to be a treat. I really liked it. Okay. I would watch it again, which I'm like, I think I would too. We're not covering Ant-Man and the Wasp. What's going on?

I'm, I'm reacting to the news that you guys would watch it again. That's so fascinating. Caleb, did you not like this movie? This movie was, and, and I,

and I would do anything to be in peace with you guys. I think objectively bad I think it was bad I think it was really bad it was strange have you seen the Avengers? have you seen any of the Marvel films? you have to understand

where the bar is Caleb the bar is different than what you're comparing it to like I don't know Belfast or something we just watched Guardians. They reveal information in such a strange way. I thought. That's how they work.

That's how they also, they assume a weird amount of knowledge. No, no, no, you're great. They assume a weird amount of knowledge because it's all wrapped up in other things. Like the Falcon that comes in at one point, it's like, I don't really know who he is, but I know that I'm just supposed to know because I'm supposed to know. He's Iron Man's friend. I will say I was watching it with my straight roommate.

No, he's Captain America's friend. Okay, well, I was impressed by you and I got it wrong in my head. Don Cheadle is Iron Man's friend. Oh. Okay, wait. Wait, doesn't like Iron Man's friend, doesn't wait, wait, wait. Doesn't like Iron Man's friend. Doesn't he wear the thing and fly around?

Yeah, but so does Anthony Mackie. They all do. They both have black friends. Okay, wait, Caleb, you said you watched it with your street roommate. I did. And I will to the point of them like giving out information weirdly i guess maybe that's a marvel thing but i started the movie and the first like two minutes the movie is just all they're talking in a way i was like i stopped it i was like is this a second

one or something and my room you have to ignore the beginning it's like when when it starts i never know what's going on and i go yeah when you fell asleep yeah yeah that's it's what's happening it's because the beginning they always tell you boring shit wait caleb you said you I never know what's going on and I go, later I'll figure this out. Yeah, yeah. It's what's happening. Because at the beginning, they always tell you boring shit. Wait, Caleb, you said you watched this with a straight roommate? Yeah, I did.

My straight roommate. Is he single? He is. Do you want to meet him? Yeah. Where is he? I got Brayman. Is he home?

I don't know if they're still here. I think they went to the gym. I have two straight roommates. They go to the gym? They go to the gym? Yeah, go get them. Damn! Damn! They went to the gym. They went to the gym. Yeah. Go get them. Damn. Damn.

They went to the gym. They went to the, he would have answered. They went to the gym. What about John? John went with him to the gym. I was supposed to go, but they went at a bad time.

I love this. When are they going to come back from the gym? If they come back during this, I might hear them and I'll say, come up here and meet Nicole. Oh my God. What if I find love today on April 1st? This was going to be the best day ever.

That would be so powerful. It really would be. Oh my God. I can't wait. Oh my God. Okay. Well, let's see what happens next with Ant-Man. Is this me?

Is it my turn? Yeah, your turn. And then hopefully some street men will walk into the room. Scott takes the suit home, finds a small red vial inside of it, and tries it on, which I absolutely would never do with a suit that I found in someone's house. Insane. And it fits like a glove. I feel like you might want to try it on. Yeah, it fits perfectly.

I think you might want to try it on because it's the only thing in there that you're like, why is this special? That is what he says, too. He looks at it and he goes, why did he said he like says he like looks at him he goes why did he have this locked up like he like says that to himself and that would be why i had that thought then yeah original thought original thought i uniquely understand the motivation of the character i can't let her have it. He literally said that. I use the raise hand mechanism in Zoom. I'm like, actually.

Actually. That button no one's ever used in their life. Okay, so triggering a button. He shrinks down to the size of an insect. Not only that, but Hank speaks to him through the helmet's communication device after surviving a bathtub. An apartment rain during the day, a vacuum, a mouse. Scott regains his size on the top of someone's car. And I think it's, um, oh shit.

Garrett Morris, I think he's like a pretty, pretty well-known actor. Anyway, um, uh, he attempts to return the suit only to be discovered by the police and he's arrested hank poses as a lawyer and smuggles the ant-man suit to langsell to help him break out of jail with the help of a group of ants this was funny to me he passes out while flying a riding a flying ant and wakes up at hank pym's house now i loved this bathtub thing because it was like honey i shrunk the kids like i feel like a lot of this movie that's also why i liked it thing because it was like, honey, I shrunk the kids. Like, I feel like a lot of this movie, that's also why I liked it, is that it was like, honey, I shrunk the kids. I don't think we've had enough of that in our culture. Something insane that happens when he breaks out is he got arrested for like breaking and entering at best.

Like misdemeanor vibes. And they like shut the city down. They do like a five block perimeter. They send out like a bunch of cars. It was crazy. I was like, why would they do this? Violent criminal on the loose. It do like a five block perimeter. They send out like a bunch of cars. It was crazy. I was like, why would they do this? Violent criminal on the loose.

It's like absolutely not violent. He actually like, walked into somebody's backyard. Was fully compliant. Was very cool. It was crazy that they did that. It was. I didn't like when we first saw the ants.

They kind of grossed me out. But then over time, I guess I started to like them. Although I didn't like how they had one as a dog at the end of the movie, which we can get to later but thank you I want to talk about that too I had a big problem with that I did think it should have been

killed but the ants these big ants are just like fucking Honey I Shrunk the Kids I have a big ant there too they rode ants in Honey I Shrunk the Kids this is like the whole thing well that's probably did they have this story before Honey I Shrunk the Kids or was someone watching the movie and they were like wait superhero vibes

wait yeah it's ant-man and old like where he rides and i guess his name is literally ant man yeah he's ant man yeah but when did they start ant man when i think it's got to be before i shrunk the kids yeah leah can you find out out? But I always love that movie so much when they eat the like Oreos that are in the ground. Yes, and they're scooping all that cream. What a wild sentence.

They're scooping all that cream. Well, when he goes down the bathtub, can I just say that scene, the one part that stressed me out

was I was like, stop running and just find shelter. Why is he running so much? Yeah, yeah. Wait, he's running from the water. No, that ends right away.

Then he runs because he sees his friend taking a shit. And then he's like, I don't want to see that. Then he runs again. Then he falls through like a pipe. Well, I don't think he was taking a shit. I think he was going to take a shower. Yeah, he was getting naked. Oh, you're right.

Do you turn on the water when you're taking a shit? Do you fit in the bathtub when you take a shit? Sometimes, have you're taking a shower? Do you fill my bathtub when you take a shit? Sometimes, have you ever had someone... Oh, of course I run water when I'm taking a shit if someone might hear me. But in the sink, not the bathtub. But in the sink, yeah. If I start running a tub, then people are going to go, oh, she's taking a bath. And there's a lot of questions.

Like, why aren't you wet? Oh my God, one time someone was at my apartment when I was in college, and they came over and they ran the water while they were taking a shit. And then it overflowed over the sink onto the floor in the bathroom while they were shitting and they didn't notice. And then it got like really crazy. Can I tell you something that I used to do that was, it's embarrassing to admit. Sure. Which is if I ordered food and I ordered too much, like I didn't want them to think I was eating it myself.

I would run the shower when I opened the door. So they thought I had someone. Shelby. That's funny. That's really next level. That's very smart. Yeah. It was like,

Oh, I'm here. Someone's in the shower. Yeah. I turn the TV on and go, the food's here. I have on the phone ordering before I've been like, Oh,

this is way too much. And then gone hold on one sec do we want anything else another cheeseburger okay yeah we'll get another cheeseburger and then so yeah I've done before where I'm like they're gonna look at me and be like you good

so then I go in the shower quick that is so funny so he could have been doing that the old trick that everyone does so wait Leah tells us that the Ant-Man comics are from 1962 and the comic he first appeared

in was called Tales to Astonish which Corey Stoll says in one of his first scenes oh hidden facts whoa interesting so Scott discovers that Hank placed the tip to manipulate him into stealing the suit as Oh. Hidden facts. Whoa. Interesting. Okay, so Scott discovers that Hank placed the tip to manipulate him into stealing the suit as a test and wants him to become the new Ant-Man and steal the yellow jacket suit. He promises that he can help Scott reunite with his daughter.

Scott has little choice but to accept. Hope and Hank train him to perfectly control and manipulate the Ant-Man suit so he has superhuman strength as well as tiny size. Hank and Hope also teach him how to control ants using electromagnetic waves like they do. Scott learns that Pym particles power the suit and that tampering with the regulator could send him to the quantum realm,

losing all sense of time and space. This was said so seriously that I was like, the fuck, what are we doing? I honestly missed a lot of that, but it makes sense now. I got a little bit of that. Mike mentioned as we were watching it together, he mentioned that he likes this movie because of the science

in the movie, which he did say he felt dorky saying, but he did want to tell me that. And I was like, oh, because it's about quantum physics and realms and dimensions and things. And so I'm barely getting that but uh at the end we do have a thing that makes that makes a lot of sense of that when we have that guy who

disappears i also was like what the fuck are these electromagnetic waves like do we have these in our head like it just felt like he was like mind controlling these little ants i know you know what i would have loved there was the part where she's like, no, focus and make them do what you want. And then he like is staring at his like car dashboard and like the ants start spinning a penny. And I wanted him to say, oh, that's not what I wanted them to do. Like I wanted him to like make a joke

that like he was focusing really hard and that wasn't what the goal was. I thought it was too complicated. It even was right now when I said it. So it's fine. No, we all follow. I liked when he was having tea. There was a lot of tea

to be had in this movie, but they were having tea and he was like, do you want sugar? And then those little ants bring the sugar and he's like, ew, no. And then the ants were like,

okay, sorry. They turned it around. It was so funny. That made me laugh really hard. That's cute. I don't want a bunch of little ant servants. Is that okay?

Me neither. I would. Well, if they're actually listening to me and they're not just running all over the. I would. Well, if they're actually listening to me and they're not just like running all over the place like ants tend to do and they're disgusting,

then yeah, it's different. I mean, I guess when they were counting down from 10 with their bodies, that was funny. That was pressure was on. I really felt stressed. I was like, okay.

Marching band vibes. It is. The movie should have been called Marching Band Vibes. I would have loved it. Ant-Man, Marching Band Vibes. Okay. it is the movie should have been called marching band vibes i would have loved it okay hank tells hope the truth about the death of her mummy janet van dine uh she did not die in a plane accident no sir janet was the counterpart to pym's ant-man a superhero called the wasp who sacrificed herself to prohibit a Soviet nuclear missile. She went subatomic,

disappearing into the quantum realm. He admits this is why he is hesitant to let his daughter wear the suit. Now, see, does that mean maybe she didn't die? I think that's what they're telling us. Spoiler alert! You gotta watch Ant-Man and Wasp. I might need to watch that.

I think I'm gonna have to, and I'm really upset about it. I know, but it's like, I can't do it when it's all at one work for this. I'm pretty sure that's the premise I'm really upset about it. I know, but it's like, I can't do it when it's still a homework for this. I'm pretty sure that's the premise of that movie. That she wasn't dead? Did you guys notice the family photo they had where she's wearing this big hat that's obscuring her face in a way that says, we're going to cast this woman later.

See, I didn't get that. Of course I didn't clock that. I didn't clock that, but I did in the moment when they were, when we see her in the flashback, I was just thinking, so they didn't want to cast her? Yeah. Like it was just like, it was just someone in a mask, you know? But I guess that makes sense. Yeah, I think the whole, I read what it was going to be about because I was like, what

else is there? I thought we figured out Ant-Man and I read the like plot and I think it's literally just about her. Oh, interesting. interesting well who plays her do we know yes um I that I can't remember her name is so Michelle because she's a Michelle for me to forget Michelle Pfeiffer is like that's tough Shelby you forgot Michelle Pfeiffer that wasn't that wasn't great Nicole I hear you and I know. I'm upset too. I'm not proud. Wait, but that's a great cast.

Wait, so is it still Evangeline Lilly? Yeah. Yeah, wait, that's like a hot cast. With a different wig. Oh, she gets a different wig? I'm going to remake it and recast Michelle Pfeiffer as Margot Martindale. And it's going to be so much cooler. That does sound cool.

Okay, wait, she went in subatomic. All right, well, Hank sends Scott on his first mission to what he believes is an abandoned Stark Industries warehouse in upstate New York. When Scott gets there, he discovers that the warehouse is now the site of the Avengers compound. Sam Wilson, a.k.a. the Falcon, unsuccessfully fights him off on the roof of the compound. Scott gets away with one of Hank's old S.H.I.E.L.D. prototypes. Also, the Falcon was, like, embarrassed Falcon was embarrassed that somebody beat him up. And he was like, don't tell. What did he say?

Don't tell Cap about this. I don't want Cap to know about this. Who cares? What are they going to say? Hey, the Falcon got beat up by a little man. And then what is Captain America going to do? Yelling him, spank him? Captain America was a little man himself before he took the juice.

He'd be like, I understand. I was little too. This is Bagel Boss energy. Do you guys remember Bagel Boss? Of course I remember Bagel Boss. He's incredible. He's going to get so mad at me. Captain America was a small twerp who

gets tested on and he becomes a buff man. I kind of am on the Falcon side. It would be hard to explain to your boss or big brother or whatever their relationship is that you got beat up by somebody who went small mode unless you had ever fought someone in small mode because that was hard. He kept trying to

shoot him and stuff and it's like he's too small. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, being that small is just a whole nother world. I mean, Captain America wasn't minuscule, but he was small. He was small, but he wasn't Ant Small. He was Little Man Small.

It does sound a little made up. Like, no, he kept going from small to big. He was tiny, but he hit big. It's like, okay. I also really hate it. I didn't like it when Scottott was like i'm ant man i was like oh don't say that don't be calling yourself ant man like have some self-respect yeah you can be anything what do you think would be the better name

tiny big man like littleippy little guy little guy yeah zippy tiny big man i'm zippy okay so darren my favorite character confronts hank at his home he or no it's clear that they're running out of time scott and liss louise kurt and dave to help with the heist darren perfects the yellow jacket suit and invites hank to the unveiling in attendance is mitchell carson who turns out to be one of the many fucking Hydra. I guess Hydra is in every goddamn movie. Hydra's in every movie.

Working for S.H.I.E.L.D. Which I'm like, so S.H.I.E.L.D. is bad? I don't know. Scott in the Ant-Man suit along with his crew and a swarm of ants infiltrates the building. So they plant explosives and sabotage all the servers. Lang is prepared to steal the Yellow Jacket suit. However, he's captured by Cross. Cross sells both the Ant-Man and Yellow Jacket suit. However, he's captured by Cross. Cross sells

both the Ant-Man and Yellowjacket suits to the Hydra and the Ten Rings. Leng breaks free from his trap, fights the Hydra agents, and chases after the escaped Cross, though Mitchell Carson escapes with Cross's unstable formula. Then the planted explosives planted on Cross's unstable Pym particle formula detonate,

imploding the building into the Quantum Realm. So much shit is in the quantum realm. It's like what we think we're doing when we're recycling. It's going somewhere, you guys. All my bottles are going to the quantum realm, and it's pretty polluted. It's full of shit. The quantum realm is full of shit.

Darren puts on the yellow jacket suit, which is super badass, way more badass than the Ant-Man one. They fight through San Francisco, making things comically big and small along the way. Guys, I loved it. Scott traps Darren in a bug zapper. Okay, here's an interesting thing. I don't want to speak for all black people, but they land in a black family's pool. And then the black family waits around for Ant-Man to be like, everything's okay.

Black people don't wait around. We run away. We're getting out of there. We are saving ourselves. We're not waiting for someone who splashed in our pool in a weird ass suit who zapped another man in a bug zapper to say everything's okay for us to then run away. And then they ran after he said it was fine.

Yeah. No, we would have been. Yeah. He's like, it's all good. And they're like, don't trust that.

The funny part in the in the helicopter when they say something about when they do disintegration by the cure you know i'm talking about and then they're and then the cure is playing and it's slow-mo with like all the big lifesavers that That was to me the exact experience I have when I'm at the movies and they play that little rollercoaster thing and the popcorn pops next to you. And you're going down and it's like, you're going to enjoy this movie. The snacks are really big.

That felt really reminiscent. That was totally what that was. I liked when everything was big. There's a rollercoaster with popcorn? There's some, I don't know. Is it AMC? What is it? It's one of the movie theaters used There's some. I don't know. Is it AMC? What is it? It's one of the movie theaters.

Used to have it. I don't think they have it anymore. I mean, fun fact. I don't think I've ever been to a movie on time. I don't know what you're talking about. That's so funny. It's like POV. You're on a roller coaster.

Oh. Leah thinks it's Regal Cinemas. Interesting. And then like you're really, you you're really it looks like a fun roller coaster like you're sort of jerking around you're having a good time

you're jerking you're jerking which means whatever it means you're having fun you're jerking around you're up and down popcorn's flying

yeah we gotta finish this okay we gotta keep going so Darren puts on the yellow jacket suit They fight Alright you already said that After witnessing his heroic deeds

Paxton covers up for him Scott says he remembers Nothing of his experience In the quantum realm Hank accepts this But wonders if Scott's survival Means that his wife Might be alive in there

Months later Luis tells Scott That he heard from a friend Who heard from a friend Who heard from Sam Wilson That the Avengers Want to recruit him In a mid-credit scene

Hank offers An update prototype of the Wasp suit to Hope. She replies, it's about damn time. I know, I thought that was a really weird response, actually. I didn't think that made sense. No.

Okay, and then in a post-credit scene in Berlin, Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson have found Bucky Barnes unable to contact Tony Stark because of the Accords. Steve says that they're on their own, but Sam says he knows the guy. Now, when I saw these people, I went, nope, I like the people in this movie. Now, when I saw these people, I went, nope. I like the people in this movie.

I don't want to see the people from the other movies. Same, I didn't want to see fucking Captain America. No. Yeah, I didn't want it. And then also, I was like, what Accords? Like, Honda Accords?

Like, what do you mean Accords? Why are they on their own? Sam's like, I know a guy. Is he talking about Ant-Man or whatever? But then it flashes to Ant-Man, we'll be back. And I was like, oh, I guess that's what they were talking about i didn't even think to watch post credits

no and you're you are correct we literally have to or we get um in trouble yeah it's really awful you have to sometimes there's like two allegedly there's like three in one it's too many so this one is it is a scene from Captain America Civil War. Oh. So it, there's, that's, that's why it doesn't make sense. Like when this movie was released, it didn't make any sense to people watching either. Nobody knew what the Accords meant. Oh, okay.

Well, great. Interesting choice. I was going to say, so did they, why did they? So why did they? So why do it? They're successful. They're successful. They're successful. They're successful. Wait, Leah, are we watching

Civil War? We are. Then why can't we watch more Ant-Man? Because... Why do we have to watch all the Captain Americas? Because Captain America Civil War has a bunch of other Avengers in it. Is Ant-Man ever in stuff? Yeah. As Paul?

Yeah. Oh, they get Paul back. Good for them. He's in at least... He's in three Is Ant-Man ever in stuff? Yeah. As Paul? Yeah. Oh, they get Paul back. Good for them. Okay, that works. He's in at least, he's in three more movies that you'll see. Good for them.

Good for them. Is his daughter? Yes, but not that girl. Okay. I defend her. Okay, so Ant-Man. Lauren's a Marvel character. Ant-Man didn't get any major award nominations,

but it did win a Saturn Award for Best Comic Book... Or no, Comic to Film Motion Picture. No, no awards. I thought it was good. I liked it. Do we have bad taste? I don't know. I mean, maybe.

But the movie was fairly well received by critics, holding an 83% average rating on Rotten Tomatoes. It should be higher. It should be 100. Yeah. Kenneth Turan from the Los Angeles Times wrote, playful in unexpected ways, engraced with genuinely off-center

sense of humor. Ant-Man, engagingly directed by Peyton Reed, is light on its feet in the way the standard issue Marvel behemoths never are. See, and that's why we loved it. Ant-Man grossed $519 million worldwide. That's it? And holds an A audience score from CinemaScore.

I'm so stressed. This should be their biggest film. This should have grossed $10 billion. Do you know why they didn't? Why? Because they didn't utilize to the maximum potential Michael Peña and T.I. If they had used Michael Pe pena and ti more the thing would

have won an oscar it wasn't i think you might i honestly think you're right i think you might be right i think you're making a joke but like i genuinely think you're genuinely serious those two every time they were on screen i was like this is it baby this is why i know i know it really did feel like the third can the third guy get a, I don't, I didn't need him. The third guy wasn't as crazy about. But I liked him. The comical accent. I was like, cool it.

We gotta take a break. and we're back with some trivia okay so the falcons role in the plot came after adam mckay and paul rudd went to see captain america winter soldier and fell in love with the character they casually suggested working him into the plot and then kevin fiji informed them that it would actually make perfect sense since falcon was now living at the new avengers head or avengers compound uh as of age of ultron fucking avengers age of ultron oh okay that's so funny that this adult man was like oh yeah he's living here's the update on this this fictional character oh yeah he's moved in oh he decorated his room yeah he'd been living there a minute couch it got a new couch. It's all good. Michael Douglas explained why he took the role of Hank Pym. Well, you don't have to explain it to me.

But he said, I did it for my children. I finally got a picture that they're so excited about. Dad is cool. You have to understand, for most of my career, I've done so many R-rated pictures. He calls them pictures. They can never see any of my movies. Just recently, at 14 and 12, they're becoming more aware of some of the things I've done, so this is a lot of fun. 14 and 12? That man's a crib of some of the things I've done. So this is a lot of fun. 14 and 12?

That man's a crib keeper. Yeah, he keeps on giving. I'm just astounded. 14 and 12? He keeps saying pictures. He's like 110 years old. If you're calling movies pictures, you shouldn't have kids in middle school, brother. That's one thing I'll tell you about that.

If you call movies pictures, your kids should be able to go to a bar legally. The movie pictures. He said, I've always done talkies with sex in them. Your kids should be able to watch those, big dog. Oh, my God. I cannot believe his children are 14 and 12 his children 14 and 12 also fun fact i got to meet michael douglas um at a james corden and we had to sit next to each other on a couch and my butt is so big that i look like i am a hundred feet taller than him also he had no idea how to respond to me because

we talked about pole dancing and james was like you pole dance and then he was like michael you pole dance and he was like oh uh i wish he went with that i wish he was like actually actually here comes the pole watch me go here comes the ball i just gotta plan my lessons i just gotta plan my lessons wisely because my kids are 12 he's whipping his body around with just his legs he's spinning around upside down he's so talented one of the most talented there is I can't believe his children

14 and 12 Paul Rudd's 10 year old son wasn't exactly impressed with dad's new role when Rudd told him he'd been cast as Ant-Man his son said wow I can't wait to see how stupid that'll be. Oh my God, that's so funny. Wow.

So jaded. Wow. And yes, Garrett Morris. Garrett Morris, who portrays a cab driver in the film, appeared as Ant-Man in an SNL sketch in 1979,

which was the first live-action appearance of the hero. He was Ant-Man on SNL. Wow. So that's where they put him in. See, this is the kind of deep stuff. This is what Edgar Wright,

this is what Adam McKay, this is what they're working to do. Film franchise, okay? But here's, oh no, here's my question. If Garrett Morris is the first one to portray Ant-Man, why not keep Ant-Man black? Thank you. Well, yeah. Is that a wild question to ask?

T.I. was robbed. T.I. could have been Ant-Man T.I. should have been Ant-Man wait but guys Paul Rudd is so charming he's good in it he is really charming and I am really I'm blessed

that I got to watch him in this movie but you're right but you're right if he was the first person to be Ant-Man yeah yeah he's the first

live action appearance yeah that's interesting he could have been Hank Pym yeah they could have done that that would have been cool oh that would interesting. He could have been Hank Pym. Yeah, they could have done that. That would have been cool. Oh, that would have been interesting if he was Hank Pym.

Right? That would have been fun. Garrett, yeah. Too young, though. Oh, Garrett. Yes, okay, I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were talking about Paul.

I was like, I'm not sure. I really want to go along, but I'm not sure. Oh, man, I don't think that's what I want to do with the cast. He should have been the old man. Paul should have played Eddie.

He makes the daughter Hank Pym, and then we kill the aunt dog. Okay, the little girl is the aunt dog. No, hold on. So on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon, Paul Rudd told the story of how he had wanted to play a prank on Michael Douglas on their last day of shooting by basic instincting him during an interrogation scene. Oh, no. How unfortunately, Rudd got tangled up in his own boxers,

which led Douglas to ask, what are you, a fucking pervert? Pretty funny. Joke went sideways. One of the teasers Marvel released for Ant-Man had zero footage of the movie.

Let's watch. Oh, wait. What is this? Had zero footage from the movie? Ants. Ants. Ant-Man.

What? That was the weirdest shit I've ever seen. Paul Rudd and Michael Douglas are slapping their hands and snapping and then they just do it faster and faster and then they scream ants. They show a picture of an ant from like stock footage and then they scream ants. A red ant too. Not even the kinds you're used to. Right. Not even the kinds you're used to.

That was so fucking weird. Here's the thing. Sold. I'm gonna go watch it again. See that's the best one though. I mean that's the thing. This is why we like this one. It's the best one though I mean that's the thing this is why we like this one it's irreverent it's interesting it's off yeah I mean what a treat is Adam McKay are the same people involved

in the second one and in the third one I don't think so no what about Eggie no Edgar Wright was supposed to direct this and dropped out. But that's why he just has screenwriting credit. But his directing style would have been so interesting for him.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, I love Edgar Wright. I think he's great. This is crazy. Okay, well, here's time for our segment. Is Chris in this? This is a segment where we say yes or no if there was a Chris in this film. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Chris Pratt, or Chris Pine.

Was it Chris in this film? Yes. Who? Chris Evans. Oh, but only at the end. Oh, yeah Pratt, or Chris Pine? Was it Chris in this film? Yes. Who? Chris Evans. Oh, but only at the end. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, in the post-credit, which... Yeah, are we not counting that?

I don't think there was any of them, and I don't think they should have been in this. I thought it was perfect. Lauren? Lauren's life was changed by this movie, and I cannot stress this to y'all enough listeners she could not stay awake through i can't believe how much lauren's baby's gonna have to watch i mean i'm right there with you lauren i loved this movie so much it's good i

don't think it needed any sort of Chris, Kristen, Christy, Carlson Romano, nothing. None of that. It could have used a little Christy Carlson Romano. It could have used a little Christy Carlson. Okay, second segment. Is a kiss in this? Okay.

Yes or no conversation if there is a kiss in this film. Was there a kiss in this film? Yes, there was. And I was very glad when they were kissing behind the door and then Michael Douglas opened the door and asked if something was going on

and I loved how charming Paul Rudd was in that scene where he's like, hmm, something's going on. But here's the thing, I don't think I like Eastell Evangelina, what's her name?

Yeah. Evangelina Lilly. Was it? Evangelina Lilly. She's had some interesting sort of stuff. I loved her on Lost. I was a big Lost fan.

Loved her on Lost. She was anti-vax and anti-mask throughout the pandemic, is my belief. That's nice. That's a tough one on that. Go off, queen. Yeah. She does what she wants. Yeah.

Okay. Well, time for our segment, Five Star Industries. This is where we read five star reviews. This one comes from Camille Iman. So freaking excited. Um, yeah. Okay, well, time for our segment, Five Star Industries. This is where we read five-star reviews. This one comes from Camille Iman. So freaking excited. First off, I love the theme song this season. That's saxophone, LOL.

I started listening to this with the Star Wars season and just laughed at Nicole and Lauren's commentary so loud that I got my husband interested. I'm so happy you're doing Marvel now. I'm a black girl Disney nerd, and I don't often get to hear the opinion of another black woman. Can't wait to hear you both and your guests tease this universe in good fun and dig into the storylines. There's so many layers to these movies and crazy

to keep track of all the details. Adding a bit of comedy definitely helps. Thank you, ladies. Oh, how nice. That's sweet. Well, Camille, sorry that you love Disney stuff and I hate it. I like Disney. Do you? Yeah. Says it so gutturally.

Yeah. I like the movies. I think the movies are really great. The world, not for me. You don't want to go to the world? I am not going to Disney World or Disneyland. I love Disneyland. Getting locked in that park, paying $10 for a bottle of water.

You're wrong. And then you want me to pay like $86 for a fucking hamburger? Get real. I can't smuggle in my own shit? What is this? I gotta walk. You can smuggle it in my own shit. What is this? I gotta walk. You can smuggle it in and you are wrong. It is a great place and it is so fun.

And it's fantastic. I mean, I haven't been since I was a child and I hated it as a child. Nicole, you have to go as an adult. That's where it's fun. If I was in politics, I would ban it. No Disney. Caleb, I did see Caleb on your story today

that you had people coming to town and you were like see you before and after you take the kids to Disney. My aunt is bringing my little cousins to Disney and I said I will see you on either side of that. I do not do Disney I don't like that it exists. I think it's nefarious. I don't like the whole vibe is off. The parks are bad it's all bad. I couldn't disagree

more. Really interesting. Yes. When? I went both as a child and as a teenager and both times i said this is not for me wow yeah it's not for me either it's always so hot every time i go it is the hottest day of the year there's no shelter from the sun you're just out there with the people and the ugliest families are there it is always like national ugly family thing and they're all walking around being like look at that over there. And then there's like big children in strollers that should be walking.

I don't like it. It's because they're tired because it's been a long day. I will not get on board with this. I will say amusement parks do seem to be sort of like the, the aesthetic of, of the clientele. And I go, and I go, it's the ugly, it's the ugly of the clientele. And I go. It's not you.

And I go. It's the ugly family hall of fame. It really is. You look around and you're like, where do these, I don't see, I don't see you guys normally. See, when I go to Disneyland, all I see are models. Wait, Lauren, do you do like the VIP service when you go? No, I've never done that. Skip the line and go to like Club 62 or whatever?

No, I would like to do that. But I would love to have that given to me. It's very expensive. I don't want to spend my money on that. But I have a couple times had someone go like, oh, hey, I know you from something. Come to the front of the line. And that's great. So if anyone works at Disney and they want to do that when you see me, I would love that.

If you're listening from Disney and you want to send the four of us on your best possible experience, I'm willing to change my mind. See, that would be a great day. I would love that day. I would love that day. I would go if I got squirted to the front of the line, got to go to Club 62. What's it actually called?

Club, what is it? I've never heard of this. It's like a secret club in Disney where you get to go if you're fun and rich or something. Yeah, and people will post a picture of the napkin that they have. You can't post Cup 33. You can't post anything inside there. So I've never seen what it looks like, but I have seen people I know go there and they just take a picture of the little cocktail napkin that says Club 33.

And you're like, oh, somebody's special. There's a secret door. A secret door? Oh, no, invite us now. No, invite us. They're not going to invite us? Why? No, they'll invite me.

I haven't said a bad word about it. Well, here's the thing. Oh my God, I'm on the website. It's a lot of cursive and they make it really hard to read. I thought there was a picture of you on the website.

I thought that too. I was like, wait, are you wanted? I'm throwing down the gauntlet. Disney, if you want us to come, you give us the best possible day you can and we'll see. And if I still don't like it, it's over for y'all. I love this.

If we do, we'll do a lot of ad space for you. This website is not good. And then I scrolled on and it says, this is not an official website of the club. Click here for legal disclaimer. Somebody made this website and it looks like I made it when I first started using HTML. It's really terrible. Wait, there's a dress code. No

tank tops, cutoffs, swimsuits, bare midriffs, sweatpants, flip We're in a fucking theme park. I know, but you gotta dress up. There's an insider article with pictures. Whoa. That shouldn't be happening. Hold on. Wow. Shut down the pod oh my god no shorts of any type for dinner oh my the membership is a thousand is thousands of

dollars thousands multiple you have to get a membership to this thing do you guys remember when shonda when shonda rhymes ended her whole relationship with them over disney passes because she was like you guys are petty as fuck and then she went do you guys remember this that shit was crazy she was like you wouldn't give us disney passes so i'm gonna go sign a deal with netflix oh my god fuck y'all you guys it says the waiting lists for club 33 are an average of four years or more potential club 33 members need to send a letter to the below address requesting to be added to the club waiting list. Calling Club 33 to ask where you are

on the list is frowned upon. Remember, this is a class act establishment. Class act? Unfortunately, it's not an easy task to become a member and the waiting list hasn't opened in years. It's a lengthy, expensive and exclusive process to join. You can give it a shot and write a letter. Okay, wait, should I write a letter? You're a fucking loser. To go to a club

at Disney? Fuck this. I wouldn't come if y'all invited me. It's $25,000 to $50,000 annual membership fee. What? I wouldn't come if these fuckers made it free. No, that's your initial fee. And then the annual membership fee for each year is $12,000 to $20,000. Wait, why would it cost that?

I don't understand. Well, I'm not joining that. I'm not joining unless it's free. That's wild. I wouldn't go for free. Now I'm pissed off. These people are out of their fucking minds. I wouldn't go for free. That's wild. I wouldn't go for free. Now I'm pissed off. These people are out of their fucking minds. I wouldn't go for free.

If they gift me a visitor's pass, I will gladly visit. You couldn't pay me to go. At any time. I dare you to try. An initial fee of $25,000 to $50,000 and an annual fee of $12,000 to $25,000. That's wild. Send someone to

college. Yeah, it's college tuition. I'm offended by the prices. That's like so much more expensive than the cool thing at the airport where you can get like your own terminal. You know what I mean? The club. But now I'm like, wait, I have to go through my list in my head of the people I know who are members and find out about this. Because they're paying $20,000 a year to participate? Maybe they're just not members, but they got like a one-time little sneak peek.

Yeah, well, one of them worked for Disney as a child. So I'm like, maybe then they are in for free or something. Oh, interesting. Oh, my God. Either way, I'm out. I'm out. Yeah. For that reason, I'm out as well.

I'm out unless someone gifts me a pass, in which case I will be in. The grits they have on you, girl. I can't be put into a video. I cannot be on this call being part of a group of people saying they're not going to go and not just repeat that I will go and I do want to go because I don't want to be confused for a different opinion. She doesn't want to loop in with us. Okay, here's, I will go with you, Lauren. If someone was to gift me the exclusivity of a nice time at Club 33, I'll go. Disney, you couldn't pay me to go and I dare you to try.

Oh my God, I love this. Also, at- You could pay me to go. You could pay me to go. You could pay me to do almost anything. At Disneyland, there is a Pym Test Kitchen restaurant. It's refueled Ant-Man and the Wasp's size-defying fare at this epic eatery at Avengers Campus. Whoa, so is it big food and little food?

I need to see pictures of the food now. I'm looking. They're going to give you a microscopic steak and a big-ass Brussels sprout, and you're going to be pissed. It's going to be a horrible meal. It's a jelly bean steak. I'm just going to share my screen because I'm lazy. Oh my God. The biggest chicken patty I've ever seen on a sandwich in my life.

Oh, that's funny. Look at that pretzel, baby. Wait, this is cute and I want to go. This is kind of cool. See, Caleb, this is how they get you. There's lots of novelty treats. There's lots of stuff that's fun. Now, what's the blue on the bread?

I don't like that. That's mold? I just know that we're going to accidentally come across an article that's like, they don't pay their workers. Like something bad's coming because this looks too cool. We can't find anything out like that. We have to just enjoy what we're looking at. I gotta say, a lot of this food is food I've never seen before.

I don't want it. I don't know. What is this like, this like lettuce with this weird breads on it? Like what is this? Nicole said a lot of this is food I've never seen before and then she pointed out lettuce. We're looking at a chicken sandwich in person.

Like, you know what they should have? And then she name-checked lettuce right off the bat. What is this food? Lettuce? Nicole, while looking at an image of a pretzel,

says, I don't know what the fuck this is. And what's that green plant? There was a lot of weird things. No, you're right. It's pretty insane. I don't know. The big chicken patty is funny to me.

It's funny, but it's like you're going to feel like shit all day walking around the park in the heat and that. You have to be careful. You have to be careful. Lauren's trying to maximize fun at the park. I'm like, I'm going to eat the best. Look, you have to go to the, get the kebab skewers in Jungle Cruise area. There is like a little place where you can get these like sort of veggies and chicken on a little stick.

Lauren goes on a juice cleanse to go to Disney. You feel great. You have energy. Get a Dole Whip for a treat and carry on with your life. Kayla pities me. I don't like her. I want to help you, babe. Oh, no.

They've got you in a place where I fear. Caleb pities me. I don't like him. I want to help you, babe. They've got you in a place where I fear. Yeah, I'm totally in. Wait, Caleb, did your roommates come home yet? Let's find out. Cam! Cam! No, he would have answered. They're good at answering.

They're good at answering. Okay, well we need to read more reviews. at answering. They're good at answering. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, we need to read more reviews. That's just one of their many skills. This season, we're doing Apple reviews, and we're also doing Letterboxd reviews, and we will each give a little review after this, but let me just explain. If you don't know, Letterboxd is a social platform where people can write reviews of films, and you can follow the show on Letterboxd at Newcomers.

This is a review by Indie. not to log on with a hot take it's so fun to see a woman not be blatantly sexualized in these movies for once yeah i was actually pretty surprised that they let her just be a lady yeah um and then this person says me screaming through tears give us more louise i agree i agree accurate they made her so much of a lady that I didn't believe the kiss. Like I was like, what are you talking about? They have not even flirted. Yeah. There's been no tension at all. They didn't build me to want that at all. I figured it would happen, but I was like, I know I figured it, but I didn't. Then when it wasn't happening, I was like, kind of cool that they're not flirting. Like, that's kind of cool.

And then they just like kiss behind the door and then they're like, all right, that's it. And you're like, something's happened in here fun here i don't know i'm down for whatever um i would give this movie five stars and my sentence my one sentence review is this is the best marvel movie thus far chronologically um paul rudd is the best superhero oh wait here comes the room no time to come in. Cam, come here. Come here. Nicole wants to meet you. You can listen with these.

Hi. Hello. Hi. What is your name? My name's Cam. Cam? Yeah, like Cameron. Oh, is it short for Cameron?

Yeah. How old are you, Cam? I'm 29. Oh, okay. Yeah. old are you, Cam? I'm 29. Oh, okay. Yeah. Are you single, Cam? Mm-hmm. Are you looking?

Yeah. Do you like blacks? Yeah. Okay, what about older blacks? Cam? Older blacks. Cam? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do? You like older blacks?

Yeah, I do. Okay, Cam, do you want to go on a date? Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Wow. Okay, Cam. Okay, wow.

We did it. Caleb, okay, I guess you guys set this up. We did it. Wow, Cam. Okay. Wow. We did it. Caleb. Okay. I guess you guys set this up. We did it. Wow, Cam. Have a great rest of your Pride Day. Okay. Yeah. Nice to meet you. I can't believe it just happened.

Nice to meet you, Cam. Oh, my God. We watched the movie together and this all came about. He's really cute. Yeah, he's fucking hot. No, he's actually really nice, you guys. He's actually really nice. Oh my God.

He's like really good looking. He's so hot. We're not going on a date and I know it and I'm okay with it. I think you are. I don't think so. I think you're being nice. No, we can talk about it offline. I really think you are.

I think you are going on a date. Wait, really? I think we were on a recorded line and he was like, I can't be an asshole. No, unfortunately, I think you are going on a date. Oh, really? I think we were on a recorded line and he was like, I can't be an asshole. No, unfortunately, I think you are going. Oh, my God. Thank God I wore my good wig. Oh, my God. He's really cute.

He's so hot. Yeah, he was really cute. OK, this is really exciting. This is really exciting. OK, great. I'm really excited. This is the best episode ever. So much has happened.

Oh, God. OK, Nicole, if you you can what's your star rating and review of this film i know you have a lot going on you have a date to prepare for yeah i mean this is so wild to me um okay my review of this movie is i love ant-man ant-man has brought me to my new boyfriend also i almost came watching darren cross and um and scott lang have a good time together i fucking love paxton, Bobby Cannavale. All the men in this movie did it for me. Gail, Wood Harris, that's the actor.

Michael Pena, T.I. Everybody is really good. Five and a half stars. I hope I'm going to get fucked by Caleb. I hope you do too because he's really cute and he was really nice. Is this a safe person to go out with? Yes, he's a good guy he was really nice. Is this a safe person to go out with? Yes.

He's a good guy. Okay, good. Great. Oh my God. Okay. This is great. Do you guys want to give it your star review?

Caleb, I'd love to hear how many stars. Actually, Shelby go first then we'll hear from Caleb because it's going to be lower. I'd give it four. Yeah. I'm not going to go up to five.

Not my kind of content, but, you know, it was like a heist movie with a little bit of science. Okay, I just have to say, in the chat, Caleb has put Pam's number, and then Nicole said no. I don't want to say my number. I'm the number. Caleb put Caleb's number. And Nicole said no, he has to text me, and then Caleb was like, no, that's actually fine. I'm a living nightmare. This is so funny.

This is the funniest. My review is three out of five stars. It was enjoyable, but I just cannot abide the robbery of Michael Peña and T.I. They needed more screen time. I do love that you gave it three. That's good.

It was enjoyable. It was a good movie. Yeah. All right. Well, we've come to the end of the show. Nicole is setting up her date on her calendar, texting her assistant to find out what day she's free. Oh, sorry.

She no longer has an assistant. Oh. That assistant did some bad. Well, I'd love to hear about this the second we stop recording lots of drama oh my god I can't wait

so adding that onto the things that have happened in this podcast I know so much has happened Caleb and Shelby

do you individually have anything you want to plug or together yeah please please please go listen to our podcast Keeping Records it comes out

every single Friday it's really funny and go see Shelby do stand up all over Los Angeles. I dare you. Yay. Well, thank you both so much for being here. This was truly a blast.

Can you shout out where to find you guys on Twitter and Instagram? I'm at my God-given handle. It's Shelby Wolstein. I'm at Caleb Says Things Everywhere. Yay. Okay. Well, thank you so much. We will be back next week with Captain America Civil War, which I'm not excited about now because I like this movie. Yuck. Yay. Okay. Well, thank you so much. We will be back next week with Captain America Civil War,

which I'm not excited about now because I like this movie. Yuck. Yeah. We'll see you then. Bye. Bye. Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.