Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Avengers: Age of Ultron (w/ Leah Marilla Thomas)

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

Admin reveal!!! Our resident Marvel expert and self-proclaimed nerd-for-hire Leah Marilla Thomas gets in front of the mic to guide us through arguably no one's favorite MCU movie, Avengers: A...ge of Ultron (2015).  Next week's movie: Ant-Man (2015) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. I'm gonna show you something beautiful. Everyone scream it. For mercy. You want to protect the world, but you don't want it to change. You're all puppets. Tangled in strings. Strings. Strange.
Starting point is 00:00:57 It's the end. The end of the path I started us on. Nothing lasts forever. But now I'm free. There are no strings on me. Thank you. Hi, everyone. I'm Lauren Lapkus. And I'm Nicole Byer. And this is Newcomers. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:17 This is the eighth episode of our fifth season. We are working our way through the Marvel Cinematic Universe with the help of fellow newcomers, super fans, sometimes people who've contributed. And this season will be 20 episodes long, so we're going to get to as much as we can. We can't get to everything, and we are okay with that. Yes. Today we're going to be discussing the second Avengers movie, Avengers Age of Ultron. It came out in 2015.
Starting point is 00:02:43 You can get it on Disney Plus and for a fee on Amazon Apple TV Plus, Google Play and Vudu. We are going to spoil it. So if you want to watch the movie first you can do that or you can just listen and have a nice time. Lauren what are
Starting point is 00:02:59 your initial thoughts? I actually thought this was kind of fun. I know you didn't. I thought that there were some moments that I enjoyed. I actually liked the James Spader AI robot situation. I actually thought that that was pretty entertaining. thought that that was pretty entertaining um however and i sort of like the um real life moments that they had like when they went to the guy's house and like that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:03:33 um but overall i would say it was like an hour too long as you know they all are i watched it over two nights which was my best choice because i didn't i think when i sometimes when I'm really tired and I put one of these on, it's like so hard to watch it. So I actually was able to stay awake in a good way. I paced it out for myself, which was helpful. But what did you think? You hated it. I really didn't like it. Elizabeth Olsen's accent was so weird and strange.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I have questions about that. So many many questions who was the dialogue coach they should be you know walked into traffic i really didn't like the action in this one and i also didn't like the non-action parts yeah so that's the movie that's the whole thing and i think that um her accent is from a fake country oh okay but then i'm like so make it something she can do you know like it was like she was uh struggling it was hard and i wonder and i was like does wanda on wandavision have that accent no right because i haven't seen i don't think so i haven't seen anything that. So I'm very curious about how that connects. But you know what? We have the perfect guest today because...
Starting point is 00:04:47 We do. We are joined by our very own Marvel expert and consultant, Leah Marilla Thomas. And don't talk yet, as you know. Look, she's the first person to not try to talk yet because she's like, I'm here every week. I understand how it works. So Age of Ultron is a slightly controversial part of the MCU.
Starting point is 00:05:03 So we thought it'd be best to have Leah chat it through with us. And Leah is an entertainment journalist and a writer in addition to the resident Marvel expert, as we said, which has been very helpful throughout this whole season. You've been chiming in, giving us lots of tidbits and info to keep us on track. Welcome to the show, Leah. Leah, Leah, Leah. Hello. Thank you for having me. I mean, I'm always here. Oh, my God. But it's special today. It's really special. Tell us, what was your first experience with Marvel? How did you become a Marvel expert?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah. Oh, yeah. So I was not, you know, really a superhero person. I'd seen, like, some Spider-Man movies, some X-Men movies. And I did not really like the concept of secret identities um yeah it like it really bummed me out when the whole conflict in superhero movie is just like oh no they're gonna find out who i am so when iron man came out and at the end he says you know like fuck it i am iron man that was interesting and that kind of hooked me on this series. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I mean, I personally liked that moment too, but I also think that's hysterical that that was an improvised moment. Like they weren't going to have him say that. And then he's like, fuck it, I'm Iron Man. They're like, that's good. Keep that. We like that.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So yeah, I've seen them all. I've seen, I think, yeah, every Marvel television show. As part of my job, I've done lots of like Easter egg guides and recaps and explainers. So I'm I'm in it. Who who's your favorite character from the universe? Peggy Carter. Who's that? And who is that? Captain America's girlfriend. that and who is that uh captain america's girlfriend oh that old bitch yes we know her she has um a spinoff television show on abc called agent carter and that is my she does yes it's my favorite piece of content much content yeah i'm exhausted but wait so is the actress from
Starting point is 00:07:00 the movie on the show oh good for her and she's not old. This is like old timey. Yeah, it takes place in the 40s. It's about her like living her life, being a spy, getting over Captain America, like I guess dying because she thinks he's dead. I'm sorry. She's got like other boyfriends. I didn't know this was a show
Starting point is 00:07:20 and it's on ABC. Me either. And it's like I watch things on ABC. It's as if ABC betrayed you. I watch things here. Why didn't they tell me? What? Bachelor, Million Little Things.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I have a lot of... So, wait, did she have this show on ABC? Wait, is ABC part of Disney? Yes. Yes. Yeah. When did that happen?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Well, they really figured it out, didn't they? They were like, let's just swoop up everything. Everything? Yes. When did that happen? They really figured it out, didn't they? They were like, let's just swoop up everything. Everything? Wow. Disney is going to just own everything. Well, buy me. Daily Bugle time? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Daily Bugle. It's our new segment where we're gonna give a recap of what's been going on lately in the mcu okay first first topic deadline announced that marvel studios is developing a project around the marvel hero richer writer aka nova for either film or television nova a member of Nova Corps? Everything's a question. Law enforcement. Oh, okay. We're introduced in Guardians of the Galaxy led by Glenn Close.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Okay. Why do they all have names that are just like Richard? Steven? Yes. Everyone's just very normal. And there's multiple too because there's multiple Peters. There's multiple Richards. There's multiple Richards.
Starting point is 00:08:47 That's so funny. Is it because Stan Lee was doing this in 1955 and he was like, everyone's name is Dick and Sally? That's funny. Dick and Sally. So here's another bit for y'all. At the red carpet event for Moon Knight in Los Angeles, Oscar Isaac posed with a child cosplaying as his character, Mark Spector, a.k.a. Moon Knight. How kind.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh, that's nice. Very kind. Honestly, this child looks creepy. Now, did I see that Ethan Hawke was at this premiere? Is he in this show, Moon Knight? He is. He's the villain. Okay, I like him.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Ethan Hawke's the villain? okay i like hawks the villain oh yeah we watched the the trailer and it looked pretty decent right right right i liked how that one looked actually because it was kind of about like he's like i've got multiple personalities yeah okay i'm into that and i have seen uh the first four episodes of midnight oh is it good it's pretty good based on what we have been liking and not liking, do you think we would like it? There's a little, I can say all this cause it'll be out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:51 There's a little bit of romance. Okay. It's got Indiana Jones vibes. Do you guys like Indiana Jones? Never seen it. No. No. I don't think I do,
Starting point is 00:10:04 but I saw it when I was a kid, but I don't think i do but i saw i saw when i was a kid but i don't know yeah well i'm also fairly newcomer season six you know there's four of them it's also fairly like straight forward you know there's only one character that's not a lot of people coming in so see that i guess he does have multiple personalities or dids so there are other people coming in but it's all him that i can get behind i can get behind that um okay here's another little tidbit on instagram live someone asked james mcavoy is that how you say it? McAvoy? Oh, God. God, McAvoy. That is, yeah, of course that's how you say it.
Starting point is 00:10:52 If he's in Doctor Strange into the multiverse of madness, his answer, no. Why would you think he is? Why is that interesting? This is the thing. This has become the news. I've been trying so hard to avoid this type of news because that's all it is.
Starting point is 00:11:07 But all people want to do is ask actors if they're in films and then catch them in a lie if they're, you know, like Andrew Garfield went through this with Spider-Man. Oh, he said he wasn't in it and then he was. And then he's like fucking, he is Spider-Man. Interesting. Okay, well, I guess you can't even say, we'll have to wait and see because that would mean that you are. And then he's like fucking he is Spider-Man. Interesting. Okay. Well, I guess you can't even say we'll have to wait and see because that would mean that you are.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And then you get in trouble. But who would he be in Doctor Strange? The Multiverse of Madness. He'd be like the younger Professor X. Like he is in. Oh, yeah. First class and stuff. But isn't that.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Oh, Disney owns Fox now. Boy, oh boy. Oh, my God First class and stuff. But isn't that... Oh, Disney owns Fox now. Boy, oh boy. Oh, my God. All right. Well, here's another thing. When asked what he could share about Thor, Love and Thunder, director Taika Waititi said that it's not finished. The film will be released in July,
Starting point is 00:11:59 and Waititi joked that he would get it done probably in June. I love it. You know, you love someone who's like successful, who's confident. I love it. He's like, whatever. I'll get it done. Don't worry about me. He's everyone's favorite.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And I want to know why it's called Love and Thunder. Now, do you think that he's going to make some thunder in bed with Natalie Portman? Ooh, maybe, maybe, maybe he'll put down a different hammer on Natalie, Natalie Thornton. Wow. He's going to lay down the hammer in bed. I think in this movie, Jane becomes Thor somehow.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I'm not, this is not my area of expertise, that particular comic. So I think we now have to call her Natalie Thornton. Okay. I love it. It's been decreed. She becomes him? Hmm. I mean.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Kinky? Sounds a little hot. Although I got to say Thor's hair in Age of Ultron would oscillate between straight wig and then beach waves. And I was like, who did the continuity on? This is nuts. Yeah. I want to get into everyone's looks and everyone's vibes. We're going to go to a quick break.
Starting point is 00:13:23 We're going to come back with Age of Ultron after this. And we're back. Okay. Age of Ultron was written by Joss Whedon, directed by Joss Whedon, released on Joss Whedon. I honestly, he did the firstgers and i really didn't like it i think he must be stopped yeah i think he i think people were trying to stop him recently i don't know what happened oh he's pretty much stopped but he was not stopped at this point yes no may 1st 2015 let's jump into our plot here okay so in light of the events of
Starting point is 00:14:08 the winter soldier the avengers reassemble to track down and eliminate hydra again more of this fucking hydra's remaining members their latest mission brings them to a location of loki scepter a fictional eastern european country called Slokvenia. There you go. Sokovia. What is it? Sokovia. Sokovia.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Do you have like heartburn every time I pronounce something? No, but sometimes I can sort of like anticipate which paragraphs you're going to read and I go, oh no. I like this. I like when you get to a hard word. It's so hard. I like what you make up.
Starting point is 00:14:45 It's always more fun than the real word. Lauren, thank you so much. Well, this fucking scepter that seems to be so important in every movie is in the possession of Barton Wolfgang von Strucker. Played by Thomas Creature Man, one of the last remaining heads of Hydra, who's been using the scepter to build weapons and experiment on the people.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Okay, so during the battle, without Strucker's approval, two of his agents join the fray, Pietro and Wanda Maximoff's Kokovian twins, who gained, I'm doing the accent perfectly, who gained supernatural powers via Strucker's experiment. Pietro can move at superhuman speeds, while
Starting point is 00:15:30 Wanda possesses a powerful plethora of psionic powers. When Tony Stark finds the scepter, Wanda uses her powers on him. In a vision, Tony sees his teammates dead or dying while the Chitauri launch an even larger invasion on Earth. So this is when everyone started having visions.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yeah. And I was like, okay. And then there is one part where she is introduced and then moves. They just like rewind her back through a door. And I don't think I've laughed harder. It was the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my whole entire life. Also, I didn't really, I was like, okay, so she's like an enchantress or whatever. She can like bewitch you into dreams.
Starting point is 00:16:06 But then I was like, why do I need to see the Avengers bewitched? Why can't we just see it later? I guess, I don't know. I just didn't need to see all of them bewitched. It was dumb to me. I agree because I feel like not all of them paid off. Like some of them, we saw what they saw and we saw them deal with that. And they had to go like like i feel
Starting point is 00:16:25 like thor it was like a really big deal to him but like other people it wasn't that big of a deal they were like i see myself doing something fun later and then everyone else was like horrible horrible stuff's gonna happen i don't know it was kind of silly and i i have to say like we before we started recording i was just we were talking about like how we don't love when all the all these aven Avengers get together. And like, I just feel like sometimes they get a little corny when they're all together. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Because there was that whole runner of like, don't say bad words. And I was like, what the fuck? I was just about to bring that up. What is that? Oh, go ahead, please. That language moment sort of followed around both Steve Rogers and Chris Evans for the longest time. And fans loved like anytime Chris Evans says a bad word, they're like, oh, no. It's awful. That's so annoying.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Even this movie like eventually proves that that's not like who he is. But that's really funny I feel like like wait was it was it this movie or another one where they were all trying to pick up the hammer it was this one that was this one yeah they all started but I was like okay like that was like an improv scene like it was like a group game they're like how would your character try to pick up the hammer it's like this one's like, no, no, I got this. You know, it's like, okay, you guys, like this is just a little bit silly.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That whole sequence was improv. There is a point where they had, what is his name? Who's Iron Man's friend? Rhodey. Yeah, so Rhodey was like, and then that's when I said, boom! And everyone's like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And I was like, cool. So this wasn't scripted. And you could tell by his face, Don Cheadle was like, all right, I guess if you want me to fucking keep making up shit, here's this. Totally. Like rolling his eyes. It was totally what was happening. It was so weird. And then I guess that whole point of that scene was just so that later when the robot
Starting point is 00:18:24 picks it up and it's really easy, it's it's like okay so he's really strong and you guys aren't like i was like but yeah i know like i don't know there was just something about that that was very well he's worthy we'll get to that later worthy okay i i didn't i didn't get that okay we have to get back okay so the avengers arrest strucker and returned to stark tower now the avengers tower which is like what it's like their house yeah like what's going on um in manhattan in manhattan with the scepter stark and bruce banner begin studying the weapon they discover that the gem in the scepter scepter could be used to develop artificial intelligence the two scientists extract the gem for use in stark's secret peacekeeping program called ultron also on board is dr helen cho
Starting point is 00:19:13 claudia kim who is a geneticist um okay so leah they live in avengers Tower that's just like their house yeah that's like their hangout do they live there all the time well according to fan fiction yes oh for sure if I was going to write fan fiction there's so much Avengers Tower fan fiction it's it's own genre because it's like a condo building where they're like
Starting point is 00:19:39 we have a pool up at the top where anything can happen and then there's the gym you'll always run into one of the other Avengers in there because they're always working out. And the doorman's got everyone's packages, but he mixes them up sometimes. And somebody got Bruce Banner's dildo. And, you know, it's just a disaster. It should be like, it should be like the circle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Oh, my God. I love the circle. Wouldn't that be great? Do you see how I light up? I light up at the worst shows ever. I'm like, you really did light up at the circle. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:20:08 That's why no one who cares about this can really get upset if we don't like it because we have crazy taste. Yes, we do. Very bad. Like, I love 90 Day Fiancé.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I think it is poetic. Okay, yeah. So they do live in Avengers Tower but they move to another house at the end of the movie, right? Oh, yeah. So they do live in Avengers Tower, but they move to another house at the end of the movie, right? Oh, okay. Okay, yes, well. But they were there. Okay, so the Avengers throw a party with their various sidekicks.
Starting point is 00:20:36 At the party, the Avengers mingle and cover a wide range of topics. Jane and Thor's relationship status, Steve and Sam's search for Bucky Barnes, as well as Bruce and Natasha's feelings. The party culminates in a contest to see if any of the drunk Avengers can lift Thor's hammer. I just was like, not here for this scene. Also, there was a bunch of old people there. And I was like, are there old people so we get Stan Lee in here? He doesn't have to always be with old people. He could just be a person. Yeah. I also think like there's nothing scarier.
Starting point is 00:21:05 I mean, and we're improvisers, but I feel like there's nothing scarier than this movie with a blank page where they go, and this part,
Starting point is 00:21:10 you're just going to make some stuff. This is a millions of millions of millions of dollar movie. And we just want you to make it up as you go.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Just go. Just see, just see what you guys play with when you go pull the hammer and the hammer will be made of styrofoam so just don't really let it be yeah don't don't touch it um and then somebody almost moves it and thor's like oh no and then he's like ha ha ha captain america i was like oh
Starting point is 00:21:37 my god and it is crazy that none of them can't even move it an inch well because it's not about it's not about strength it's about being like pure of heart or something. Okay. I remember in Thor how he had to just like prove that he was a good person and then he could wield it. Okay. I missed that as part of what matters about that hammer. So that's going to be a key detail later, I think.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Maybe. Is it? We'll find out. We'll find out. Okay. I mean, I watched the film. Yeah, I watched. Maybe. Is it? We'll find out. Okay. I mean I watched the film. Yeah I watched it too and that's why I was just like okay maybe I missed something.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Well like they definitely made a big deal of it when Ultron or whatever was throwing it to him. Even that part where he's like tossing it to him. Yeah yeah yeah. Or not Ultron Jarvis or whatever. The red man? Yeah. Who also looked like he was from the bodies exhibit yeah i was not
Starting point is 00:22:26 here for that i was like what's his name that's their main source of inspiration for like half the characters the bodies exhibit uh okay so what was his name vision vision oh his name is vision oh so so spoiler spoiler alert that's Wanda's husband. Oh. Well, that is a spoiler. But he was just like created. He's a baby. She's way older. Seems nasty.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I mean, he's also annoying. He's like, is death what you're afraid of? No, what we're afraid of is the sky, birds, trees, life. I hated him. He was more annoying. I liked the bad more annoying i liked the bad guy i like the bad guy too ultron james spader he gets suddenly activated this was fun this part was fun i thought this was exciting i did like this um so he quickly absorbs all the information in the world and determines that the only way to save earth is to eradicate humanity, which is like a lot of bad guys things where I'm just like, this is pretty dramatic.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Yeah, everybody gotta go. It's a huge thing that you want to happen. I mean, you know, and then Jarvis attempts to stop Ultron, but the more powerful AI appears to destroy him and then takes control of one of Tony's Iron Legion robots. Ultron attacks the Avengers, knock-kneed and kind of like drunkenly stumbling around, but then he like flees with Tony's Iron Legion.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Yeah, this part I thought was very exciting. Like they were having their party and then the, I guess it was supposed to be Iron Man's costume or something. And it like goes like, hey, I'm sentient now. And then they're all like, oh shit. And it like goes like hey I'm sentient now. And then they're all like oh shit.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And then it's like way better than all of them. And I thought that was fun. I thought it was a little fun. I like I didn't like how like he looked like a rag doll. He was like
Starting point is 00:24:19 I've just cobbled myself together. I'm just like really discovering how bad and nasty i am it does seem fairly realistic though that if artificial intelligence absorbed all of the internet in a minute they would decide to just kill everybody though i mean that seems like what i want to do i like the internet too much like i go on Twitter, you're like, I'm like, yeah, we should all stop this now.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah, I guess. I guess if I was artificial intelligence, I'd be like, everyone here is pretty stupid. So like, they gotta go. Don't you feel like, I don't know, I just pictured the internet actually being gone and like the level of peace I would feel at home.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But then I'd be like, what's doing I know but you just wouldn't know and then you have to call someone and be like do you want to hang out and then like you would have less FOMO because you'd like hear you'd maybe hear about something that happened but you maybe wouldn't oh my god are we Ultron are we trying to get rid of the world? Yeah. Alright, so here's my paragraph. Ultron recruits the Maximoff twins in Sokovia who reveal that they have a vendetta against Tony Stark because a Stark Industries bomb killed their parents
Starting point is 00:25:39 and that Wanda let Stark take Loki's scepter with the hope that it would make him self-destruct. After Ultron kills Strucker in prison to lure the Avengers out, he and the twins travel to South Africa to acquire vibranium from arms dealer Ulysses Klaue, played by Andy Serkis, who blows me away.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah, he's great. He's a great actor. He's fun. And then I was like, oh. And then they mention something, oh. And then they mentioned something about Vibranium being used to make the shield or whatever and he was like, you made a dumb
Starting point is 00:26:14 frisbee or something. I don't know. I just don't know what was happening. We're getting into the answers that you have been demanding for weeks. I didn't really get an answer other than We're getting into the answers that you have been demanding for weeks. Okay. But like, I didn't really get an answer other than like, why did Novacor?
Starting point is 00:26:32 No. Who made this thing? Howard Stark. Howard Stark made the shield? Iron Man's dad. Yeah. And I don't think they ever fully say whether or not he like bought it or like bought it. You know, I think I think he must have stolen it.
Starting point is 00:26:55 So about Tony Stark, he's bad. Like, I think Robert Downey Jr. is so likable that i have this feeling and he's and now iron man is a hero he's a superhero but he has done a he's got a very bad history like i feel like a lot of them don't have such a bad history he literally caused destruction because he made bombs like he i mean i guess he in his first movie he was like i'm not gonna going to do that anymore. But like, it's fucked up. It's fucked up. Yeah. And he's still like destruct.
Starting point is 00:27:28 He's like, but then the part where he's like, hey, how fast can we buy this building? And then he like breaks it all down, like the whole building. I'm like, well, he has good intentions, I guess. Like he's like, I'll buy it. And then it's my problem or something. But I was like, I don't know. He's he's a he's like a kind of like bad person, it seems like. like i don't know he's he's a he's like a kind of like bad person it seems like even the idea to like put a what did he call the ultra and like put a shield of armor around the world that's that's
Starting point is 00:27:51 still militarizing the planet it's like it's still bad yeah i don't think i think ultimately like i love the actor but the character um i have problems with some of his core beliefs. Same. And then also, yeah, he, his dad and him sold, you know, weapons of mass destruction to people. Yeah. Bad, bad, bad, bad. And of course, we have the twins' parents killed. These twins are in love with each other, correct?
Starting point is 00:28:22 They do love a handhold. And did they kiss at one point? He tenderly touched her face. I submitted it to siblings are dating, which is my favorite Instagram account. Twins who are dating. Wait, no, what is it? Siblings who are dating. No, siblings or dating.
Starting point is 00:28:44 And then the person who makes it will post a picture of a couple and then put a poll. Like, are these two people siblings or are they dating? And because the poses people are in and they either look a lot alike or they're posing really weirdly. And then you find out they're siblings. It's like it's just or you find out they're dating, but they're like twins. It's just the best account. That's very funny. It's very fun.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And some of them are like disturbing. the best account that's very funny it's very fun and some of them are like disturbing like you'll just be like these people are siblings yet they're like like kissing each other it's just like sick um elizabeth olsen and aaron taylor johnson did play a married couple in another movie so so they have tension they have they have a chemistry that already exists wow interesting what movie was that? Godzilla, which I think came out the same year as this. Oh, wait,
Starting point is 00:29:28 what? That's crazy to have them cast in two things that huge playing. No, it was a year before, but still. I think that's insane.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I think it's pretty funny. It's like, we were kissing, now we kiss in a different way. Yeah, and I guess they'd already been cast because they were in
Starting point is 00:29:42 that post-credits scene. Right, right, right. After Winter Soldier. When she was like, Hello, hello, hello. Okay, so more plot summary. After explaining that Klaue stole vibranium from Wakanda and both Steve and Tony were led to believe that Howard Stark
Starting point is 00:30:06 got the last of it. The Avengers head to Johannesburg to stop him. Wanda uses her powers to wage psychological warfare. Natasha's taken back to the Red Room in Russia.
Starting point is 00:30:16 She's Russian? Where she was trained by an assassin, Madame M. Julie Delpy, who was on, I think, Angel and Buffy.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And she's from Before Sunrise with Ethan Hawke, which I love those movies. Have you seen those? I do like her. I have not seen those. Oh, I love those movies. They're really romantic and good. Ooh, that's like right up my alley. You should watch.
Starting point is 00:30:39 There's three of them, and they take place 10 years apart. Ooh, what's it called again? And with those same actors. It's called Before Sunrise. I think the first one is Before Sunrise, then it's Before Sun the same actors um it's called before sunrise and the first one is before sunrise then it's before sunset and then it's before midnight and so the characters reconnect 10 years later in real time like they like made another one and then they have the characters come back it's really fun um and now also didn't natasha have an accent in like the first movie that we saw her in? Did she?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Natalie? I mean, not Natalie, whatever her name is. Scarlett? She might have, but definitely does not have an accent in this one. No, ma'am. No, no, no, no. She hasn't tried to have an accent, no. Also, again, her wig-etition said, I will do you no favors.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That wig is bad. I'm blown away. I'm just like, are we not at the point, like just in past the year 2000, where like every wig should be great? Like what are we doing? Like it's like you're in Marvel. It's like, it's going to be a great wig. Spend some money.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I don't know. I know that I've heard of like certain actors that people I know who have worked with were like, oh yeah, she wears a wig in every movie and it's a, you know, $10,000 wig or whatever. And it's like, she just never wants her own hair to be done and they it's just part of the deal and it's like it seems like scarlett johansson would be in a position where she can say i want a really amazing wig i don't know one would think every movie gives her a different hairstyle and a
Starting point is 00:32:00 different love interest it's yeah because she was like i thought she had a necklace with like an arrow for hawkeye in some movie but now she's trying to fuck a fucking green dude the dynamic between them in their romance where she's like i love you or like i'm really into you or i adore you but i want the big guy or something and she's like pushed him over the cliff and like he came back as the hulk And I was like, yuck. Yeah, a lot of what she did was nasty. She was like, let me fuck you in the shower. You shouldn't have showered alone.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And I'm like, girl. I know. Have some respect. And then does he turn into the Hulk when he's horny? I think so. We famously didn't watch The Incredible Hulk, but I'm pretty sure that that's like a thing. Cause they were just getting too excited.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. Cause they were kissing and she was like, fuck at all. Yeah. I don't know what she called it. Cause she was, they were kissing and she was like, don't,
Starting point is 00:32:57 I don't think she said, don't get big. Cause that's stupid. But I think she said like, probably there's so many weird jokes in this movie. I wouldn't be surprised. She was like, don't change. And he's like, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. It's like, okay. So that so many weird dick jokes in this movie. I wouldn't be surprised. He was like,
Starting point is 00:33:06 don't change. And he's like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. It's like, okay. So that means he's like, baseball, baseball, old ladies. Old ladies,
Starting point is 00:33:14 fucking grocery shopping. So Steve imagines that he's returned to the 1940s with the war over and Peggy still waiting to dance. Thor sees a frightening Asgardian party where Hamadol
Starting point is 00:33:24 tells him that everyone's dead. Oh. And when Wanda then hypnotizes Banner, turning him into the Hulk and sending him to attack Johannesburg.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Is it Johannesburg? Is it? I thought it was Johannesburg. Is it? I think both. Did I say it wrong? Johannesburg.
Starting point is 00:33:42 No, you might. I think you said it right. Or should I say it Johannesburg and then people can think you said it right. Or should I say it Johannesburg? And then people can decide what they heard me say. Iron Man decides to call in a special suit named Veronica, which subdues and defeats Hulk. But the destruction they cause starts a public backlash
Starting point is 00:33:55 against the Avengers who are forced to go into hiding. Triggered by something he saw in Wanda's vision, Thor does not join them. So they go to this farm, which I guess we'll get into in a second but now is this the part where iron man was riding the hulk around the buildings i was like what like a big suit like i was like are you on a team to get like what's going on like does hulk just lose track of like who's on his side me Maybe. Yeah, because he doesn't have the same. He doesn't have Bruce Banner's brain.
Starting point is 00:34:28 He's like his own. Oh. The way that Natasha is attracted to him and then he also turns into this is like something that's so weird. What did you guys think of the lullaby that she does to like get him to turn down or like? Oh, my God. What was it?
Starting point is 00:34:49 It was, um, hey, big guy, sun's getting real low. Ew! She just like kept calling him big guy. And it was like so uncomfortable for me. I agree. I thought that was super fucking weird. It's like it's like a woman, it's like a metaphor for nurturing
Starting point is 00:35:08 your husband's abusive side. She's like, I need the big guy. Yeah, it's okay, big guy. And then he's back to his normal self. And he's so boring as himself. Mark Ruffalo is so charming. This character just doesn't do it.
Starting point is 00:35:23 It's just, there's nothing for him on the page i think the only part i really like of his in this film is towards the beginning where he's like listening to classical music on big headphones to chill the fuck out yeah that's relatable to me the part where in the beginning i think it was where he like turned back from the hulk to himself i didn't know what was going on at all for some reason, even though I've seen him do that. I was like, ew,
Starting point is 00:35:46 what is he doing? And then he like plopped down and he was himself. And I was like, this is sick. Well, it was just like a weird transformation. He's like grabbing on tree branches and his veins are green. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:59 It wasn't for me. I agree. Okay. The team takes refuge at Clint Barton's's farm i was like what the fuck where they meet his pregnant wife laura and his children cooper and uh leah i or lila no i wish just kidding sorry it was lila yeah imagine it was you you're just like in the movie and you're like that's my dad clint barton is our farm i thought that clint and natasha were fucking so like color me confused that he's got this whole forest house with these kids me too yeah right i think laura who was um what's her name from
Starting point is 00:36:39 linda carter yeah she i like she, when she was like, what's going on with Bruce and Natasha? And then Clint was like, what do you mean? Because he's like, I thought he was like, I'm into her. Was that a thing?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Because he didn't know that they were in a couple. I don't know. Okay, well, there was something weird about that. To me, the Bruce and Natasha relationship came out of nowhere. So I'm on Clint's side.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I don't know what Linda Carlini is talking about where she's like, everyone can see it. I know that wasn't true. It's like I'm picking up on a lot of context clues through paying close attention. argue while Natasha and Bruce discuss running away together. Bruce tells Natasha he can't give her the life that he assumes that she wants, kids, because he's a monster. And Natasha responds by revealing that the Red Room sterilized her to make her a more efficient killer. Because I guess a uterus would like hinder you from murder. And that she's a monster too. Boy, oh boy. I screamed. I thought it was extremely fucked up.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And I thought it was very wrong to even put the word monster in that sentence. I thought that was so fucked up. Because it's like, you were a victim and you were abused by these people. And I just, I can't I thought that was so crazy and I also thought it was weird that he assumed the life she wants was like kids
Starting point is 00:38:10 and stuff because I was like do you see what she does all day it's like she's not getting the vibe of trying to settle down yeah she's literally out here in these streets jumping from dude to dude trying to murder cutting her hair straightening her hair curling her hair she has no time
Starting point is 00:38:26 changing from ugly wig to ugly wig saying put more bronzer in where it where it doesn't fucking belong i this is extremely occupied the just the dialogue that they gave uh the hulk or whatever his name is bruce where he's just like i don know, the things you want are not the things I give. Everybody knows, I don't know. And I was like, what? This is like trying to be like romantic, I guess, but it just was weird. This whole vibe of this movie was weird.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I agree. I thought this was like such a dark, deep moment to have, like with the conversation they're actually having that she was sterilized as a child. I was like, this is a very heavy abuse topic and it's thrown into the middle of this silly movie. Like it was just like so unnecessary. And I assume that's from the comics or something.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Like that must be real, right? Like why would they put that from the comics? I believe it is. i don't know 100 they do so uh just last year you know almost a decade after it should have happened black widow got her solo movie and they touched on this very briefly um using a character played by florence pew who just like very succinctly did a little uh well that's what i'm thinking of backtracking i guess like she made it she made it into a joke that was more of like a feminist joke about it so i i appreciate it a lot okay well they're trying to fix it. Trying to fix it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And Florence Pugh has the right sort of like energy for that. I'm not familiar with her work. However, I did look up literally an audio button on how to pronounce her name the other night because I was like,
Starting point is 00:40:17 it can't be poo. It is close. I was like, it can't be though, right? And then I pressed a button and it was like, pew. And I was like, good. Pew though right and then i pressed a button it was like peel and i was like good good we're good we're good here i'll i'll explain the the joke in black widow um someone makes a joke about her being angry because she's on her period and she says i don't have one i was sterilized fuck you um which is a nice way to reclaim that's what
Starting point is 00:40:42 i was thinking of yeah that sort of. But I would like it if she, because she's Black Widow and she's a spider and spiders have eight legs. I would like it if she had eight periods. Yeah. Fuck you. I'm on all eight of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Oh, boy. There's still so much more of this summary. Oh, of course there is. So much fucking happens in this movie that I just did not care about. Well, let's see if you like this part. So Nick Fury, still presumed dead, arrives at the farm.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Banner deduces that Ultron is planning to create a body made of synthetic tissue using the regeneration cradle device developed by Dr. Helen Cho. Meanwhile, Thor travels with Dr. Selvig to the mystical Water of Sight to get answers. He needs to learn about the existence
Starting point is 00:41:31 of the six Infinity Stones. Yeah, that was like a really big deal. Like he got in the fucking... And is that... Are we going to talk about it later or is it right now? I think that's the scene. He got into the like hot spring
Starting point is 00:41:42 and it was like where he started tweaking out, and his eyes were rolling back, and he was having all sorts of visions. And then the doctor was like, Thor! He was trying to interrupt it. And I was like, you got to let him. You put him in here thinking this is what's going to happen. And then he seemed to want to stop it. I was like, you got to let all the visions happen, buddy.
Starting point is 00:42:03 You're the doctor here. Yeah. I just, I don't't know and then these infinity stones so there's six of them so we've only seen this third one well yeah we've seen the mcu's seen four we've seen three i didn't realize we skipped um thor the dark world which introduces one as well well I didn't know we were collecting the stones I didn't notice that we're collecting them I think to get to that fucking the dude
Starting point is 00:42:34 with the chin he gets them for a glove Thanos his glove yeah has all the infinity stones I think right whenever I know something I'm so proud I'm like yep that was Thanos I did it I know something, I'm so proud. I'm like, yep, that was Thanos. I did it.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I know about it. Love it. Okay, so indeed Ultron, Pietro, and Wanda go to Dr. Cho's laboratory in Seoul, South Korea, where Ultron kidnaps and brainwashes the doctor as Ultron transfers his consciousness into the synthetic body, and Cho implants the gem from Loki's scepter into its forehead. Wanda looks into Ultron's mind and discovers his plan to destroy humanity.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Shocked, the twins say, we gotta get out of here. They leave. And while Tony tries to stop Ultron from hacking nuclear codes in Oslo, Captain America, Black Widow and Hawkeye arrive in Seoul and battle Ultron. Ultron kidnaps Natasha and derails a train. The twins switch sides and join Captain America's rescue mission on the train while Hawkeye retrieves the regeneration cradle and takes it back to Avengers Tower. I just feel like these twins really just jumped ship quick. There was no thought. And then, wait, is this where fucking hawkeye's like hey buddy when you step out there you're an avenger but if you don't stop quite yet i gotta protect you
Starting point is 00:43:51 oh shit that i hated that i really i hated so much of this movie it's a lot like um the fast and the furious where you will be a villain one minute and then just welcomed into the club yeah but it makes sense when it happens on Fast and the Furious so thank you there's one other there's one character from Guardians who will become a hero later on and that's what I probably should have used that is that the blue lady yeah oh she becomes good yep okay who's blue uh the one who's just like oh yeah dad yeah she had like a weird voice yeah thanks dad she didn't she also like gets up and like walks really sexy. Like I, I know she had like a good butt.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I was like, I don't know about this like avatar character having like a great American or not American, a great human body. It just feels like, it just feels, it just feels, that's just for us. You know,
Starting point is 00:44:58 that's not really like how the character needs to be. That's just for us. I like that. I said I should a great American body though. That's just for us. I like that I said I should agree, American body, though. That's Captain America. I don't even know what I mean. American body. Steve Rogers has a great American body.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Oh, did you like when they were chopping wood? No, because at one point, Captain America just rips the wood, and I was like, well, if you could have been ripping wood the whole time, why are we chopping it? Yeah. He's just doing it for appearances. And then fucking Thor whizzed away for a long time.
Starting point is 00:45:37 It was like they couldn't get him to work more days than they promised him. He didn't want to stay at all. He had to take a bath. He did. He had to take a long bath. I see. I see. Okay, so at Avengers Tower,
Starting point is 00:45:49 Stark and Banner upload Jarvis into the synthetic body. Steve and Pietro don't want him to go through with it. A skirmish erupts and ends when Thor arrives and brings the android to life with lightning.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Thankfully, the android is friendly and played in the flesh by Paul Bettany. He's so friendly in fact that he's worthy of wielding thor's hammer okay see i didn't get that that's what that meant i thought it meant he was super strong that's so funny that you just have to be friendly to to handle this hammer it's a good test so it's like the sword in the stone like where you a certain person can pull it out um oh wait so wait a minute
Starting point is 00:46:27 so this man this this bodies exhibit man just has one of the infinity stones just straight up in his head yeah forever he's an infinity he is the stone that's not gonna fit on a glove thor explains that the gem in the android's head is the mind stone the twins in the android who will later name himself vision he named himself he's really high on himself okay to name yourself vision i'm vision wow okay what are you a cafe gratitude uh a very niche joke for people in southern california they mean, if anyone wants to know, if you go to Cafe Gratitude, you have to order off them.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Each thing is called I am something, and it's like, I am light. And then you have to say that to order your meal. It's really embarrassing. So they ally themselves with the, ally themselves? Ally themselves with the Avengers, who return to Slokadabia on a tip from Nat
Starting point is 00:47:27 to end Ultron's threat once and for all. Arriving in Sokovia, the Avengers find that Ultron has used various pieces of technology to build a machine that lifts the Sokovian capital into the sky. This is scary. His intent is to crash it into the Earth to replicate a meteor strike, causing a mass extinction event.
Starting point is 00:47:45 While Bruce rescues Natasha, the Avengers evacuate civilians and fight Ultron's army of robots as the city begins to ascend. Black Widow kisses Bruce Banner, pushes him off the ledge being like, forcing him to transform into the Hulk. Meanwhile, Hawkeye gives
Starting point is 00:48:02 Miranda, no, Miranda Wanda Maximoff the encouragement she needs to be a superhero. I hated this part. When you step out there, you'll be an Avenger. But if you stay here, I have to take care of you and stuff. And I got
Starting point is 00:48:17 a lot to do. I got arrows to do. Fury and the Remnants of S.H.I.E.L.D. joined by War Machine. Rhodey.. joined by War Machine. Rhodey. His name is War Machine? Yeah, that's the name he gave himself. That's his hero name. These people. Vision, War Machine.
Starting point is 00:48:35 This is embarrassing. And a reinstated Maria Hill. Who's Maria Hill? Kobe Smulders. She was uninstated? Well, yeah, we watched this uh she went to work at stark industries at the end of um winter soldier because shield had hydra agents so they all got new jobs i see uh well they arrive in a helicarrier to assist evacuating the last few civilians
Starting point is 00:48:59 this is one of the few movies where like they save people instead of just murdering everybody yeah it's nice kinda yeah they didn't save everyone like there was that one part where This is one of the few movies where like they save people instead of just murdering everybody. Yeah. It's kind of, they didn't save everyone. Like there was that one part where that woman was in her car and it was flying through the sky going downward. And then, um, what Thor like flung her up and then captain America,
Starting point is 00:49:15 like grabbed her and pushed her over. And I was like, there were literally other cars falling next to her. Like I was like, you got it. The hottest lady. You gotta save the hottest. It was a really scary way to be saved,
Starting point is 00:49:26 but it was great. And I was so happy for her. There was a group of people in South Africa who got saved out of an elevator. And there was this one extra lady who made me laugh so hard. You gotta watch the extras. They're really funny
Starting point is 00:49:42 because they're all in different movies. Yeah, I need to be paying more attention. It's great. So the Avengers wipe out most of Ultron's drones and severely damage Ultron's primary body.
Starting point is 00:49:54 In retaliation, Ultron hijacks the Avengers' Quinjet and kills Pietro. Hulk leaps into the jet and tosses Ultron out of the rear hatch. Ultron crash lands
Starting point is 00:50:02 in an abandoned tram where Wanda finds and destroys him by ripping his heart out. Do you know what it feels like to die? What it feels like to die? Something I saw. And this monologue and this accent were wild. As I was watching, I was like, I cannot believe I have to. i can't believe people willingly went to a theater to watch this okay once the evacuation is complete thor and iron man combine forces to shatter the city into rubble which falls safely how convenient into a nearby lake hulk flees in
Starting point is 00:50:38 the quinjet which was funny because she was like hey big guy got to turn off invisibility mode. And he was like, won't do it. I fucking hate you. I know, it was horrible. I hate her talking to him like that. I don't like it either. It's like this weird baby talk and calling him big guy. It's weird. So Ultron's consciousness attempts to flee in the last remaining drone, but Vision confronts him.
Starting point is 00:51:01 The two have a brief philosophical exchange before Vision effectivelys him. The two have a brief philosophical exchange before Vision effectively kills him. The Avengers established a new HQ and training facility in upstate New York. Believing the Mind Stone is safe with Vision, Thor returns to Asgard to learn more about the Infinity Stones. Captain America and Black Widow
Starting point is 00:51:18 welcome new members to the Avengers, consisting of Wanda Maximoff, Sam Wilson, James Rhodes, and Vision. Now, the Avengers are getting pretty big. Mm-hmm, too big. In a mid-credits tease, Thanos retrieves a golden glove called the Infinity Gauntlet, saying, fine, I'll do it myself. Oh
Starting point is 00:51:33 my god, we did it. Who's Sam Wilson, James Rhodes? James Rhodes is Cheeto. Rose is Rhodey. Sam Wilson is Anthony Mackie. Oh, yes. Oh, I thought he was already part of the Avengers. Me too. I guess it was like,
Starting point is 00:51:48 it wasn't formally invited until today. How wild. I'm so happy for him. Me too. So that was intense. Now, in our awards section, Age of Ultron wasn't nominated for any major awards, but it did win a Saturn Award for Best Film Costume Design
Starting point is 00:52:04 and a People's Choice Award for Favorite Action Movie Character for Chris Hemsworth. That's funny, because he's barely in the movie. Yeah. I know, he really isn't. He spins around and leaves.
Starting point is 00:52:16 It's true. So, Reception, the film had a huge box office success, raking in worldwide a total of $1.4 billion. Oh, my God. The fifth highest grossing movie of all time it also set a worldwide imax opening weekend with 25.2 million previously held by the dark knight rises it's crazy how the pandemic has changed what a box office means because that's like so crazy. It's so much money.
Starting point is 00:52:45 That's nuts. Oh my God. It holds a 76% rating on Rotten Tomatoes down quite a bit from the 91% that the first Avengers movie holds. Audience has, however,
Starting point is 00:52:54 given an A on the CinemaScore poll. I think people, I think 76 is pretty solid in the way people rate things. I think so. Richard Rupert wrote in the Chicago Sun-Times,
Starting point is 00:53:04 someday an Avengers film might collapse under the weight of its own awesomeness. I mean, how many times can they save the world? But this is not the day. Wow. He's a big fan. Richard loved it. Let's go to a quick break and we'll be back with more age of altron after this and we're back with some trivia scar joe was pregnant during filming and apparently her many stunt doubles confused the other actors.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Chris Evans said it got to the point where he would start a conversation with one of the stunt doubles, oh no, only to, no, only to realize midway through that he wasn't talking to Jo Hanson! I am praying that that was like a joke that he said in an interview and then someone just wrote it out like it was a fact. Like he like because it sounds like you could say like they look so much like her. I was I started talking to one. I didn't realize it wasn't her until I told her my whole life story, you know, or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:12 But I'm just hoping that's the case because that's wild. And that whoever that was probably really happy that they were that he was talking to them. And then like halfway through, he's like, so Scarlett. And then they're like, I'm Brenda. I'm Brenda. were that he was talking to them and then like halfway through he's like so scarlet and then they're like i'm brenda i'm brenda because they've known each other for a long time chris evans and scarlet yeah they've like done lots of movies together it also means that he like doesn't give a shit about her he's just like whatever she had a body to talk to oh you're not the body i'm used to this was not pregnant. I really wonder how they worked around her pregnancy,
Starting point is 00:54:49 because that seems really challenging with the body suits and all the things that she was wearing. Like, how did they do that? That's probably why she ended up kidnapped halfway through the movie. Oh, yeah. Okay, to play Ultron actor James Spader had to wear an antenna-like contraption
Starting point is 00:55:05 made out of a thick piece of wire with two red balls that represented the placement of his eyes attached to the top that went up his entire back and three feet above his head. Elizabeth Olsen said this was distracting. Spader was always giving such an intense performance that she would look him in the eyes out of instinct. Whenever this happened, Aaron Taylor-Johnson would yell,
Starting point is 00:55:23 Red balls! Look at his balls, Lizzie, to get her to look in the right place. Wow. This movie seems like a free-for-all. The working title for this film was After Party. I'm obsessed with these titles that they'll never use. Like, there's no way it's going to be called that.
Starting point is 00:55:40 In the first trailer, Ultron recites No Strings on Me, a Pinocchio song from 1940, a Walt Disney film about an inanimate being who gains sentience. Ultron serves as a dark parallel of Pinocchio, and the song is briefly in the film as well. Yes, when I watched this, I was like, yes, Ultron is Pinocchio. Yeah, I was like, yep, that's who that is. I was like, this reminds me of that. And then, yeah, that's like what I was like, yep, that's who that is. And then I was like, I was like, this reminds me of that. And then, yeah, that's like what I kept saying.
Starting point is 00:56:10 Yeah. Okay. So this segment, is Chris in this? So it's a yes or no conversation. If a Chris was in this, Chris's were in this. A Hemsworth in Evans. We had multiple Chris's, maybe too many. I think that should there have been another Chris?
Starting point is 00:56:27 You know, I'm looking for more female Chris names. Who in the world are we forgetting when we think of this segment that should be in this? Kristen Stewart. You know, would she ever be Marvel? I feel like she could be like a superhero. Kristen Stewart, I think she would do it. She did one big franchise, Twilight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Have you seen Spencer? No, I hear it's very good. I want to watch that. I got would do it. She did one big franchise, Twilight. Yeah. Have you seen Spencer? No, I hear it's very good. I want to watch that. I got to watch it. It's really good. Maybe I'll watch that train. It's scary?
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah, it's a little bit of like a psychological thriller. Oh. Not expecting that. Me either. I'm bored as I. And I feel like this is a good parents movie.
Starting point is 00:57:02 I have my parents here and I think I'll throw that on. I'll throw that on and see if we all like that. Because famously I did meet Princess Diana when I was 10 years old. I did.
Starting point is 00:57:14 You did? Yeah, so I'll be able to judge this performance. This is not authentic to the Princess Di that I know. I met her because she came
Starting point is 00:57:24 to my hometown of Evanston, Illinois. She was visiting the president of Northwestern University and she went to like a couple like galas and things in town and she, there was a moment where we knew where she was going to be and it was like pretty close to where I grew up and so we all ran over there and I took pictures of her
Starting point is 00:57:40 on a disposable camera but I'm not in them because I was just taking pictures on a camera and that's it. It was crazy. She's wearing a mint green pantsuit, I mean, a skirt suit.
Starting point is 00:57:50 So if you look it up, once you went to Evanston, you will see that it's all real. And then somebody, actually, I'm going to say this again. I'm going to say this again
Starting point is 00:57:57 because I said it on a podcast and somebody sent me a link and it was, I didn't get to go down a rabbit hole. They sent me a link of all the paparazzi photos from that excursion where they were like, maybe you're in one of these. And so I'm like, I need that to go down a rabbit hole. They sent me a link of all the paparazzi photos from that excursion where they were like,
Starting point is 00:58:06 maybe you're in one of these. And so I'm like, I need that to be sent to me again. I could never find it again. It was like an Associated Press or something link. I hope you're in paparazzi photos. I need this because I was in a crowd of people and I'm sure that, you know, maybe you'll see the top of my head or something. It was very exciting.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I love that. Yeah. So now for our segment is kiss in this this is a segment where we talk about if a kiss was in this film was there a kiss
Starting point is 00:58:31 there was a kiss Natasha the barren monster kisses that man so he becomes the green monster yes
Starting point is 00:58:41 and then she pushes him off a ledge which is like whoa I know I was like does he have to be pushed off i guess he gets mad so he like flies back up he's mad and horny i know he flew back up despite all of their flirting the kiss was not a romantic kiss it was a mean kiss
Starting point is 00:58:57 it was it was a means to an end yeah i didn't like that I guess there was like romantic things that happened, but I mean, it's not romantic begging a man to shower with him. No, he didn't seem interested. And I was confused by that too. But then we also had Linda Cardellini. Maybe she kissed,
Starting point is 00:59:15 you know, old Jeremy Renner. I'm assuming maybe because there was, she was like, hi honey. That part was, um, Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And then she like rubbed his, where his wound was. And she's like, I can tell the difference yeah i was like okay she said i'm always supportive of your avenging which i bet joss whedon thought was very funny it's very much like someone being like oh yeah are you still improvving yeah you know me still out here avenging i'll do it wherever i can yeah i'm not a fan of the farm storyline weird hawkeye in the comics uh famous divorcee famous divorcee bachelor hot mess oh interesting well it's not what they were showing us here today no no too wholesome very and and like oh this is what he really wants. Like, this is a secret life he wants to have. It just seems surprising. fan here. This podcast is painful to listen to as a fan of the things it's about. I definitely mean this in the absolute best way possible. 10 out of 10, you need to listen. Now that threw me
Starting point is 01:00:28 for a loop, but I didn't think that our producers would put in a negative review. So it is five stars. I mean, I'm sure people who listen are going to be really upset with me for this episode. I just, I, if you wait, Leah, did you like this movie? No, not at all. But I do like the Avengers. this movie no not at all but i do like the avengers oh that's one of my favorites so that was but this one i did not like i didn't like where they took the characters i didn't like is there another one romance i thought it was sexist yeah um another avengers movie yeah um infinity war and end game which is like a two-part yeah i'm worried for Infinity War Endgame will be more fun but Infinity War has a lot of plot oh god plot oh no plot
Starting point is 01:01:10 oh no and then Captain America Civil War has Tony Stark and a lot of the other Avengers in it so it kind of feels like Avengers 2.5 no I love the standalone it's not Joss Whedon so maybe you'll
Starting point is 01:01:25 like it more we'll see I just Joss is like I loved Buffy and like the quippiness that he likes to do didn't work for me in this in this movie yeah that was just like corny yeah
Starting point is 01:01:40 well this season in addition to Apple reviews of newcomers we'll also be reading reviews from letterboxd we're going to give a one sentence uh review and a star rating and if you don't know what letterboxd is it's a social platform where people can write reviews of films you can follow the show on letterboxd at newcomers okay my review is oh wait first i'll read this review from somebody we don't know. The three stars. Whoever greenlit Natasha and Bruce's sudden relationship
Starting point is 01:02:09 is my enemy and they must be stopped. I agree, Ellie Bean. This person said, I hate to say it, but Ultron is kind of hot. I agree. That's the most sexually attractive character to me in the film. And my review is, I wish Ultron and Vision hooked up.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Ooh. And my review is, I'll do, I raise a thumbs up to that. Oh my God. That was a bad sentence, but I stand by it. I raise an old thumbs up to that.
Starting point is 01:02:42 And what you can't see listening is I literally raised my thumb to that. My star rating is a one. Wow. Oh, I forgot to rate it a star. I would give it two and a half stars. I'm kind of loose with my stars. Yeah, I'm tight.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Tight with my stars. Leah, how tight are you with your stars. Um, Leah, how tight are you with your stars? And what's your review? Um, oh boy. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Oh, here I'll, I'll cheat and I'll say what I put on letterbox. When I logged this, um, I liked it when Natasha said beep, beep. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:22 That's it. That's a great review. And I'll do two stars. Wow. All right. Two it. That's a great review. And I'll do two stars. Wow. All right. Two stars. Leah,
Starting point is 01:03:30 we've come to the end. Oh, wait. No, I don't want to ask you to promote anything yet. So listen to this on a, no, write a review on Apple podcasts because we're going to pick one for next week. And also you can rate the podcast on Spotify.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Now, Leah. Yes. What do you want to plug? You can follow me on Twitter at Leah Marilla. You can follow me on Letterboxd at Leah Marilla. I am writing all over the place. I'm at Slash Film.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I'm at Polygon. I'm at Cosmopolitan. And I am recapping Moon Knight for Vulture. So that's Marvel related. Great. You should check me out there. Well, that'll come in handy. That's how I've seen those episodes, really.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Oh, good for you. That's fun. That show looks fun. Well, we'll be back next week with Ant-Man, which I think might be funny. I like Paul Rudd. I've actually seen this one. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:04:21 But I don't remember. Oh, that's perfect. Well, we'll just see you next week and talk about the ant man bye bye bye Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.

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