Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Avengers: Endgame (w/ Joel Kim Booster)
Episode Date: June 28, 2022All good Avengery things must come to an end. Comedian/writer/actor and creator of Fire Island (arguably the best film outside the MCU), Joel Kim Booster joins Nicole and Lauren to wave a te...ary goodbye to the ensemble-est part of the franchise. They also do some NSFW Marvel-related shopping on Etsy.com, a sentence that none of us ever thought we'd ever write, ever. Next week's movie: WandaVision, Episodes 1-4 (2021) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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God, it seems like a thousand years ago, I fought my way out of that cave, became Iron Man.
Realized I loved you.
I realized I loved you.
I know I said no more surprises,
but I was really hoping to pull off one last one.
The world has changed.
None of us can go back.
All we can do is our best.
And sometimes the best that we can do...
is to start over.
I saw all these people die.
I keep telling everybody they should move on.
Some do.
But not us.
Even if there's a small chance,
we owe this to everyone who's not in this room to try.
We will.
Whatever it takes.
Whatever it takes.
Whatever it takes. Thank you. Wow. It's another episode of Newcomers.
Oh my God.
I just got off a plane and watched a three-hour movie.
I feel insane.
That's a lot to do right after landing.
It is. It is. That's a lot to do right after landing. It is.
It is.
That's called homework.
That's homework.
That's dedication to the art form of podcasting.
You are dedicated.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to be a Looney Tune this episode.
Well, this is Newcomers.
We're covering the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
I'm Lauren Lapkus.
And I'm tired. I'm Nicole Lapkus. And I'm tired.
I'm Nicole Byer.
This is the 17th episode of the fifth season.
Wait, that's a really good thing.
We're almost done.
We don't have that many left.
I thought we had more left.
Oh, my God.
No.
Okay, we're working our way through the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe with the help of
fellow newcomers, super fans, sometimes even people who've contributed to the films.
And it's going to be a 20-episode season.
So we're
almost done oh my god um obviously we won't get to everything but today we will be discussing the
fourth fourth this is the fourth i thought it was the third i thought it was the second oh shit
no no no no no no you know i have yes there have been because this was the third this is this oh
okay this is the sequel to that you know we can't. Oh, okay. This is the sequel to the, you know, whatever.
We can't, we can't, we can't.
Whatever.
We don't know everything, but we've seen everything.
Okay, it's Avengers Endgame 2019 is when it came out.
And it's on Disney Plus and Amazon, Apple, Google Play, Vudu.
And we're going to spoil it.
We're going to spoil the fuck out of this movie.
Wait, okay, Lauren, before we introduce our lovely guest,
what are your initial thoughts on this three-hour-long
movie that could have ended
several times? I thought it was going to end
several times, and it didn't, and then I would
go, oh, shit, there's another two hours left.
Like, no idea what's going on.
I thought it was very long, yes, I
did, but I also thought it was
one of the smartest
movies that we've watched. They had many storylines, timelines to weave together.
Lots of jumping back and forth. And it all made sense. I actually was like, wow,
that's actually really impressive that they did that. So that part I was really I really liked.
I was like, wow, that's smart. What did you think?
I thought it was smartly done. I really liked Infinity War.
The more I thought about it, I was like, no, I actually like enjoyed that movie.
So I was very excited to figure out how the dust people came back.
Well, yeah, I was looking forward to that.
Yeah.
And I liked how they explained it.
I like Doctor Strange being like, I can't tell you what's up.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought it was really fun i will say scarlett
johansson whoever's doing her wigs hates her like really hates her to the point where i was like
this i would be offended like i would look in the mirror every day and be like why i have to go look
at the picture again to see her so they did this insane thing where they pretended that she grew out a wig where she had
a blonde bob the ombre red her natural red hair so to insinuate she never got a haircut in five
years what the they really did her dirty they don't like it was really wild i was wondering
about that hair um not during it and if it was like was like an exciting spoiler,
like what does it mean
that her hair looks like that?
Like, I don't know.
I thought that at some point.
But I also thought
maybe it was her real hair
for a second
because I'm really stupid.
And then I was like,
what if she went out like that
and everyone was like,
oh, I guess her character
is going to do that.
And of course,
it's not real.
The bob might have been her hair
because that was like
a pretty okay wig
if it was a wig,
but also could have been her hair.
I'm not sure. We would have to ask Scar Jo. Yeah, but also could have been her hair. I'm not sure.
We would have to ask Scar Jo.
Yeah.
Well, I know why her hair looked like that.
Ooh!
Oh!
Let's introduce our guest.
It's Joel Kim Booster, actor, writer, comedian who wrote and produced and starred in Fire
Island, which is streaming now on Hulu, currently starring on Apple TV Plus show called Loot,
which premiered last week, plus a stand-up special, Psychosexual, dropped on Netflix
too.
Ooh, Joel Kim Booster, tell us about that hair.
Oh my God, we're so excited to hear.
Well, it's very clear,
her colorist turned into a dust person,
and then she couldn't find another one.
Oh my God.
She was calling around, she couldn't find,
every colorist was taken in the snap.
Every single colorist.
Just by coincidence
yeah
they all got snapped to dust
yeah
that's really stressful
I love that
I love that I rushed
your intro for that
can I just say
and it was totally worth it
but can I just jump back
and say
Fire Island is so fantastic
we were talking about it
a little before we started
but I want everyone
to go watch it
because I loved it
thank you guys so much
I just thought it was so great thank you I'm excited to watch your it because I loved it. Thank you guys so much. It was so great.
I'm excited to watch your Netflix special. Me too.
That new show called Loot is with
Maya Rudolph and that looks really good. That looks fun.
Yeah. I keep joking. I keep
telling people I'm on the Nicole Byer schedule
right now. It sounded like a
Nicole Byer bio.
Yeah. Things just dropping
all at once and then you go, now I have
time.
I'm on, I'm on the Nicole Byer schedule, except I do not have time to juggle eight podcasts.
Somehow.
Like, I feel so bad.
I used to have a podcast called Urgent Care.
I loved it so much.
It was Mitra Johari.
And we both were like, we're too busy to do this now.
Meanwhile, you and Bowen Yang, two of the busiest people in Hollywood.
Yeah.
Have somehow managed to maintain all of their podcasts.
It's called being mentally ill and loving to talk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's a factor.
Especially for this one where we have to watch so much. Yeah.
And Lauren, you literally have a child and you've managed to make it work.
A whole ass baby.
Yeah.
I was like, I can't do once a week.
I can't do it.
It starts to feel crazy sometimes, but I do think Zoom has made it a lot better.
Imagine if you were still running around everywhere.
It would not be possible.
I do not know how I did that before the pandemic.
I don't know how I did in-person podcasting ever.
I know.
It's so much driving.
Too much.
Well, all right. Joel, please. What was
your first experience with Marvel? How did you get into it? So here's the thing about me. I am
a dyed in wool comic book geek. I have like the first thing I ever bought with my allowance when
I was nine years old was a comic book. I am, I will say, I lean heavily DC.
Like those were mostly the comic books
that I bought growing up were DC.
But I will say the Marvel comic books
that I did follow really closely were X-Men and Avengers.
Like I was really big into team books.
I love when they team up.
I love when they're all together,
the drama, the soapiness of when
superheroes are together in a room. And so like the Marvel movies are for me, like they really are
for me, especially like these first couple of phases of the MCU, I think like really scratched
an itch in the back of my brain. I will say Endgame is one of my
favorite of the MCU movies, but I also think that it is one of the MCU movies where you see it start
to come apart at the seams, the shared universe of it all. And I do think it's a sharp decline
after Endgame. I really do. I think that the movies and especially some of the television stuff
that they try to do, it's just
becoming unwieldy.
They are losing control
of the thread. And I'm sure there is
someone whose job it is to make sure that
the continuity is
coherent
across all movies and
television. But it is not
they're not doing a great job anymore.
And I think you're,
and I think you start to see it
in Endgame actually
with certain threads
and certain storylines.
But by and large,
like I will say,
I have seen the last hour of Endgame
no less than 21 times
because when it was available on Delta,
whenever I like, whenever I would have not enough time to watch an actual movie i would be like oh we're landing let me go
to the end of end game and watch the amazing fight scene when all of them come back because that
that is what you want like that is all i ever wanted growing up and as being an adult is
watching all of these superheroes
communicating and coordinating and fighting and teaming up in little battles.
It is everything that I have ever wanted.
To me, it is the same thing as this is a bad movie that everyone hates, but Attack of the
Clones, at the end of that movie, when all of the Jedi come out and are fighting together,
when you see more than one Jedi
it is everything to me
everything
it's funny because I saw Attack of the Clones
and I have no clue what you're talking about
you know what's really funny
when you said Attack of the Clones
I pictured Mars attacks
and I was like oh I've never seen that
but we did a whole podcast about Star Wars
and I did not know what you were talking about
I was like the Jedi are in the Mars movie
I was like what? I'm so the Mars movie? I was like, what?
I'm so out of it.
That is so funny.
So wait, what I was hearing,
and I want to know more about this,
because when we've been watching Avengers,
I struggle when they all get together.
I don't love when they're all hanging out.
Me either.
I don't like when they're all hanging out.
I want them to do their own thing.
And I want to know why you like them.
But I didn't mind it in this one.
But like,
I think you're like still,
okay,
so now I remember
the first two
were Joss Whedon ones
where they were like
being quippy or whatever.
That's what we didn't like.
Yeah.
But this one,
I felt like there was
like actual emotional stakes.
Well,
and then there is like,
spiritually,
this is the fifth Avengers movie
because you,
there is an argument
to be made
that Captain America Civil War is sort of a low-key Avengers movie because that's the one where they fight and they all get together and they fight.
Here's the thing, and I think that this is just built into me as a comic book fan.
can only really afford one or two comic books every week, I would always gravitate towards Justice League or Avengers because it felt like sort of maximizing like what I was getting for
my money. Cause it was like, Oh, if I, if I buy a Batman comic book, I'm only getting Batman.
If I buy Justice League, I'm getting Batman. I'm getting Wonder Woman. I'm getting Plastic Man.
I'm getting Huntress. I'm getting allastic Man. I'm getting Huntress. I'm getting all of these secrets. Plastic Man? Yeah, baby!
Plastic Man!
I'm googling him now. Plastic Man
is DC.
Basically, he has the same powers as Mr. Fantastic.
He's stretchy, but
he's funny and quippy. He's amazing.
You gotta check out Plastic Man. And he's wearing
some shorts. Come on, this
belt. Yes. And these sunglasses. This is gotta check out plastic man and he's wearing some shorts come on this belt yeah it's very
this is wild yeah i love plastic man yeah you gotta i that's who i want to play in a super
movie is plastic man i mean i would love to see you in these shorts in this belt
yeah i don't think the cgi is quite there yet. But once the CGI catches up to me,
then I am willing to play Plastic Man.
But yeah, I think that's partially why I like the teen ones a lot,
is that it's just built into what I enjoy about superhero comic books,
is especially the big group battle scenes.
I find the way they're choreographed and the way that,
especially the way they're choreographed and the way that like, especially the way they like sort of weave in.
In Endgame especially, there's a lot of fan service or a lot of like gestures at sort of like arcs that the characters have within the battles.
You know, like seeing certain people like return and fight alongside one another is really exciting to me.
And just like even small things.
This is so dumb, actually.
I find this to be a really stupid part of the movie.
And yet it really like I cheered when I saw it was like Gwen Paltrow showing up in her own Iron Man suit.
I enjoyed it.
Yeah, I enjoyed it.
I loved it.
I love her.
It's crazy. She has no
training. She has never been in a fight
before. And her
first foray into battling
is the one battle
where the fate of the universe is at
stake. Like, it is crazy.
But it's so on game
for Gwyneth as a human
and for Pepper Potts in the movie.
Because in this movie, I was like, does she know which Avengers the movie because in this movie I was like does she know which
Avengers movie she's in?
She was just like whatever yeah Tony
we have a kid now seems nice
like I just I love Gwyneth
Paltrow. I know
I love that story of how she didn't know
what movie she was in
it's just so great
well they do that all the time
my other favorite part about Endgame and Infinity War, actually, is this, is that they managed to get every single person who has ever appeared in a Marvel movie back.
They even got Natalie Portman back for one day of reshoots for Endgame.
Okay.
They got everyone.
Except for Lupita.
Lupita Nyong'o. She said,
no thank you. Actually,
I'm doing an off
Broadway play. That's
literally why she didn't do
this movie. I love that. Because she
did an off Broadway play
and I think that is so funny.
I would just love to be a fly on
the wall in the conversation between her reps
and the Marvel people.
Really?
She's not going to come back?
And she's like, no, she can.
It's live.
It's eight days a week.
She can't do it.
It's at Playwrights Horizons in New York City.
That's awesome.
I love that so much.
Also, like, that's powerful to be like. It's very powerful. No, I won't. I love that so much. Also, like, that's powerful to be like.
It's very powerful.
No, I won't.
I don't need it.
I'm going to do something artful.
That literally, that literally maybe one, like, 60th of the people who saw Endgame saw the play that she was in.
And she still was like, like, what a power move.
Like, what a power move.
I wish I got to see the play to go,
the play was worth it.
We need the facts.
Wait, should we get into the Daily Bugle?
Yes.
Okay, the Daily Bugle is our new segment, Bebop.
It's a...
We're going to give a recap of what's going on.
The sound effect is getting further away from the title, so it's making less're gonna give a recap of what's going on the sound effect is getting further away
from the title
so it's making
less and less sense
it was like
so far
like bee bop
that's the bugle noise
that's what a bugle is
okay so
Nico Santos
from Superstore
and Crazy Rich Asians
is the latest actor
to join Guardians
of the Galaxy
Volume 3
which is so exciting
I love Nico
I love Nico so much
and I'm so happy for him
and I can't wait to see what crazy
little alien he gets to play
in this next movie.
Those movies have a lot of fun
roles, for sure.
Okay, Deadline announced that
Jake Schreier will direct the newly
announced MCU film Thunderbolt,
which revolves around a team of Marvel villains and
antiheroes who are hired by the government sort of like Marvel's version of the Suicide Squad.
Oh.
Are you familiar with Thunderbolts, Joel?
Yes, I am familiar with Thunderbolts. And that is what I think Julia Louis-Dreyfus is sort of
sneaking around the MCU, sort of compiling the team that will then eventually become the
Thunderbolts.
Oh.
And it's in, she shows up,
technically she shows up first in Falcon and Winter Soldier,
a Disney Plus show.
Julie Louis-Dreyfus?
This is so interesting. Yes, but she was supposed,
her first appearance was supposed to be in the Black Widow movie,
but then because of COVID, the timing of it all got fucked up.
And so it sort of sucks that the first time you see her
isn't on the TV show,
because when you see her in Black Widow,
you're like, oh, that lady from the TV show is in the movie.
Yeah.
Whereas if it happened the other way,
you'd be like, oh, that lady from the movie
is in this TV show?
That legitimizes this TV show.
Yeah, for sure.
Instead, it sort of delegitimizes the movie in a weird way.
But yeah, I have a lot of issues with the, again, it's coming off the rails.
Like they just are losing control because there's too many, they've got their hands in too many pots.
Wait, did Black Widow come out after Endgame?
Yes.
But she did.
It takes place before the events of Endgame.
So it takes place while she's on the run,
like somewhere in the world before Infinity War, basically.
It's like between Civil War and Infinity War, basically.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is one of the reasons why we're not watching it,
because that's just so depressing and complicated.
And we don't want to confuse you two.
Thank you.
Our brains are so very small.
Mine hurts.
Yeah, it hurts all the time.
Another piece of news is the Miss Marvel Twitter account
posted a handwritten letter from Malala.
Is that how I say her name?
Thanking them for reflecting a Pakistani American family on screen.
Wow.
So she wrote this note.
That's sweet.
It's a handwritten note, and it says,
It is not every day that I turn on the TV and find a character who eats the same foods,
listens to the same music, or uses the same Urdu phrases as me.
What a joy to see Ms. Marvel reflect the lives of a Pakistani immigrant family
and reveal a young superhero whose powers
connect to her heritage. Thank you, Marvel
and Disney+, and most importantly, Miss Marvel.
Oh, how nice. Oh, that's sweet.
That is very exciting. It's the power of a
handwritten letter. Yeah. Also,
this cursive.
It's nice. I know. Yeah. I don't write in cursive
at all. Oh, I do
often. Really? It is sort of...
It's really disappointing
that Malala, after all
she's been through, is being forced to acknowledge
the MCU.
I know. What are the other notes
she's writing throughout the day?
She just wrote a note to Ms. Marvel, but
I'm sure she's got different things.
I can't believe the MCU is the first time we're seeing
this kind of representation on television.
And it's sad.
It is kind of wild.
That is crazy.
But good for them.
But good for them.
And I've heard Ms. Marvel is so good.
We got chills watching the trailer.
We did.
It's a definite improvement
than the last couple of entries that they've had
in the TV side, for sure.
I will say that. What is they've had in the TV side, for sure. I will say that.
What is your favorite thing on the TV side?
I think WandaVision was probably the best.
WandaVision and Loki, I think, were the best and most realized versions of them.
And I think that it's also partially because they were just at the start
and they felt, at least WandaVision at the time, felt like the right amount of connected to the larger universe without it, while also allowing it to be its own thing.
But now since Captain Marvel, sorry, Doctor Strange has come out, Doctor Strange weirdly sort of, I don't know, it minimizes her journey in WandaVision in a weird way that I didn't enjoy. I don't know it it minimizes her journey in wandavision in a weird way that like i didn't
enjoy i i don't know it it it complicates it certainly in a way that i don't necessarily
think worked but i did enjoy the show and the movie don't come for me well the show i know
is her like dealing with vision's death but i'm, at the end of Endgame, she seemed pretty okay.
Yeah, I think
it's a deeper exploration of her grief,
which is really interesting. And Elizabeth Olsen,
I will say, is amazing
in both WandaVision and
Doctor Strange. She's such a great actress.
She's so, so good. I think
WandaVision is worth
watching just for her performance alone,
I think. But it's weird because in WandaVision is worth watching just for her performance alone, I think. But it's weird because, like, in WandaVision,
she, like, comes to terms with the loss of her love, Vision,
and also the loss of her fake children that she creates with magic.
And then in Doctor Strange, it's like, never mind, she didn't.
Yeah, she's still real mad.
That's sort of the problem that I have
with what I mean when I talk about
that it's sort of coming apart at the seams
because what they're doing,
and it actually reflects what happens in comic books a lot,
where it's like you have the individual books,
like the Scarlet Witch comic book,
a lot is going on in there.
And then you introduce her in another,
she has an arc in someone else's comic book and said, and it doesn't always connect. Like it doesn't always feel consistent
and that is fine in comic books. But I think for the movies and the television shows,
you do want a little bit more consistency over in terms of the growth that you're seeing these
characters have. I will say in Endgame, a perfect example of this is Thor.
Like the entire point of Ragnarok
is that Thor grows as a person.
He decides to lead his people.
He decides to step up and lead his people
and like really get himself together.
And then they completely ignore that growth in Endgame
in order to make a visual fat joke,
basically about Thor.
I know. I was like, I didn't love that.
And it's so annoying. It's so annoying.
And it's like nothing. Like, it's just like, okay. I thought that was really dumb. Because
I also, I started liking his character in such a new way after Ragnarok.
Yeah.
And it did feel really cheap.
Yeah. I also didn't understand the choice because he like kills thanos
and then he like gets sad about his mom and gets sad about a whole bunch of other stuff and i was
like why well and the thing is is there's certainly uh interesting story to tell about like his him
feeling like a failure in all those ways but they didn't have the bandwidth to do it in this movie.
And so instead they decided to make him fat as a sort of funny joke.
And it like, as like to just sort of truncate that story
and sort of boil it down to that.
And that is what I found like sort of, I don't know.
It really did feel like the Russo brothers were like,
fuck Ragnarok.
We don't care about the growth that this character experienced.
And like, we're just going to do our own thing and like have him go on his own journey in our movies
instead and that is where I'm like if you have a character that grows in a way that may be
inconvenient for your story you should have to deal with it and like figure out a new way a new
arc for your for this character to go on in your movie. Because then even at the end of Endgame,
when he's like, he goes to Valkyrie
and he's like, you should lead our people.
It's like, no, that's like,
I get that for story reasons,
you want to put him off in space.
But like, that is the journey,
like he came,
like the whole thing in Ragnarok
was like, he didn't want to lead.
And then he decides to lead. And it's like, and again, we get back to this point where he's like, never like, he didn't want to lead. And then he decides to lead.
And it's like, and again, we get back to this point where he's like, never mind.
I don't want to lead anymore because it's this lame ass Massachusetts fishing village now and not a cool, cool, like all different planet.
I don't know.
It really made me annoyed with that part. That is like my one big gripe, I think, with the movie is that storyline because it's just
it feels like we're retreading stuff
that happened in a different and
one might argue better movie.
I would argue.
Yeah.
Would you, Lauren? Would you argue? I would. I would fight about it.
That was like my favorite one
possibly to watch, Ragnarok.
I liked Ragnarok a lot. You know what I
didn't like in this movie? I didn't like that Captain America went back in time
and then just lived a life
and then wouldn't tell anybody about it.
Dude, I know.
It seems rude.
Also, it was insane when he's just old
and he's like, well...
Well, now I got married
and I am not telling you anything.
You want to be Captain America now?
But I did like how that was,
like that five seconds to them, was that... I thought that was cool. That was cool. But then But I did like how that was like that five seconds to them. Was
that? Yeah, I thought that was cool.
That was cool. But then also I was like,
how come he didn't land back where he was supposed to?
Where's his little super suit?
What just happened?
Why does he look like Joe Biden?
He really did.
Oh, wait, is he sitting on that bench because
he didn't travel back and then
just lived a life and then walked up to the bench?
What?
And then was like, no, yeah, because he was like, I remember the day that I traveled back.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm just going to remember to go back to that.
But he shouldn't have because he should have created an alternate reality.
Exactly.
So it doesn't make any sense.
That part is a weird hole.
And it's the worst thing that's ever happened to me.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. But that is confusing because they had that whole the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
But that is confusing
because they had that whole part
where they were talking about
how if you go to the future,
that's actually your past.
So then how did he even show up there?
Like it doesn't make any sense.
They negated the rule
that they set up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because they wanted
to get rid of Chris Evans.
And then I was like,
oh,
is Chris Evans leaving the MCU?
Is this his end?
Because he's literally old now and then he's to die, like a person, not a superhero.
Yeah.
I think it is, I think the people who left the MCU after this phase, it, like, the thing
is, is, like, I'm actually going to really miss Robert Downey Jr.
Me too.
I think his performance.
Yeah.
I think he's great as Iron Man.
I think he's especially great in this movie.
But at the same time, like, if they stayed,
I do think, like, they went out on top,
which is the way you want to go.
You know, like, you don't want to, like,
you don't want to come back to Drag Race as an all-star
and, like, sully your reputation, you know?
Like, go out a winner.
You know, and that's what I think they decided to do.
Yeah, Robert Downey jr is so good
in these movies so good he brings such a like rich like actor feeling to it all where he like adds so
much to every scene but that cgi where he was like sickly yeah that was pretty wild that was crazy
but also he looked much better in this than he looked in Infinity War. In Infinity War, he looked a little like a little like
feeling his age, a little thing.
Yeah. And they kept putting him in flares
and I was like, this is a choice.
I often, I find
that Marvel fans who are like, these
movies should be nominated for Oscars
are a little obnoxious and I don't agree.
I do think if anyone
should have been nominated for their performance
in these movies, it's Robert Downey Jr.
I agree. I think in this movie he is
actually quite wonderful and like
there's a lot of layers I don't know
I think he's funny I think the
death scene was very affecting
I Cry. Yeah. The stuff
with his dad I thought was very good
like I think he was doing a lot
and like you know we're probably
just a few years away from somebody in a Marvel movie
getting nominated for an Oscar and he just
barely missed it but yeah
but like I wonder if they're gonna bring back
Iron Man and that's like huge
shoes to fill I feel bad for whoever
does have to do that
but like Iron Man will keep that character going
it feels like the character doesn't have a ton to do
though am I wrong? I guess not
it's kind of like
we're repeating a lot
of the same thing with him.
There is a,
I can't remember her name,
and Leah,
you might know this
better than I,
but they're basically
creating a new Iron Man.
In the comic books,
there is a young,
black tech genius girl.
Ooh.
And it's like,
is it Lionheart, Leah?
What is it?
It's Ironheart.
Ironheart. Ironheart Ironheart oh yeah
Ironheart
and so
that character is
it's filming I think
right now actually
okay that's
so cool
she's a 15 year old
engineer
her name is
Riri Williams
Riri Williams
yes
this looks really cool
she's gonna be introduced
in Wakanda Forever
the Black Panther sequel
and then
go on to the TV
it's like a like a backdoor pilot.
That does feel like the perfect way to do that, though.
Like, not even address Iron Man anymore.
Like, we move on to a whole new character.
I love that.
That's fun.
Well, let's take a quick break,
and we'll be right back with more Avengers Endgame.
And we're back.
Okay, this movie.
Baby, this plot.
We're about to get into it hard.
Oh, God. It was written by Christopher Marcus and Stephen McFeely
and directed by Joe Russo and Anthony Russo
and released April 26, 2019.
All right, shall we?
Yeah, okay. In 2018,. Shall we? Yup. Okay.
In 2018, Clint Barron
teaches his daughter archery and then suddenly
everyone except him turns to dust.
About three weeks later, Tony Stark records a message
for Pepper from the spaceship where he's stranded
with Nebula. Suddenly, Carol
Danvers, I'll never get over that this woman's name
is Carol. She's like, I'm Carol. I'm Carol.
My name is Carol. I was like, okay.
Alright, Carol arrives outside the ship and pushes
them back to earth which is so funny and in that moment i was like carol could end this whole thing
carol seems to be the strongest so and and you see this you see this play out a little bit at
the end of the movie too when she comes back to save the day and it's it's the superman problem
it's the problem that DC has had
making Superman movies for years and years and years,
which is you've created a character so powerful
that it's really hard to create stakes and conflict
for a character that is basically
the most powerful being in the universe in a lot of ways.
It doesn't seem like, I don't know.
And so the only thing you can do with her is send her into space for God knows what reasons.
Yeah, why was she in space?
She was like, I got a lot of things to do.
What are you doing?
This seems pretty pertinent.
She also had her real hair in this part when she had her hair down,
which made it clear that we were debating whether it was a wig in the previous movie.
I could tell the difference.
And I actually knew that was really her hair now. Yeah think that's her hair and then the short hair the short
hair boy oh boy that was a choice oh my god nobody bring her down this is this is not sitting on the
head i know it was very poofed up in the back like suburban mom that's like one of those things they
did to like honor the comic books but i was, not everything needs to honor the comic books.
Yeah.
And like sometimes
you have to just go with like
what actually looks great
on a person.
And I just feel like
that haircut was not great.
Not it.
Yeah.
There are a lot of women
who can carry that haircut.
For sure.
There are.
Yeah.
There are a lot of them.
And a lot of them
are named Carol.
Yeah.
Actually, yeah.
Or John and Kate plus eight.
Mm.
Yeah. So, okay. They reun and Kate plus eight. Mm, yeah.
So, okay, they reunite with other survivors
of Thanos' snap, which is
so funny that this whole thing is predicated
on, like, a jazz snap. Pepper
Steve, Natasha Bruce, a roadie, and
a rocket raccoon. That's his...
That's that raccoon's full name.
And the Avengers argue over how and
why they lost the fight against Thanos.
On one tip from Rocket and another from Nebula, Carol sets off to kill Thanos.
A few Avengers join her and they find him alone and defenseless on another planet.
Thanos tells them that he used the stones to destroy the stones so they can't reverse what he's done.
Furious, Thor beheads him.
Gotta say, this felt very Shrek to me.
Where he's just like in a garden, gathering things, making some soup. I was like, this is Shrek to me where he's just like in a garden gathering things making some soup I was like
this is Shrek somebody needs to recut that part of the movie with all-star immediately oh my god
if you're listening and know how to do that would be so funny I would say you you guys probably
didn't watch the trailers for any of these movies while they were coming out or you certainly don't remember seeing them
but I will give Marvel props
that for the most part they're really
good at cutting trailers just
using footage from the first like
30 minutes of the movie
because like all the trailers for Endgame
were scenes from
like them preparing to go and find Thanos
so you think going into Endgame
that this movie isn't going to be about them
like tracking down Thanos and like killing him
or getting the stones back
or doing whatever they need to do.
And then this happens within the first like 15
and you're like, oh shit.
What exactly is this movie going to be about?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a very good twist.
And then, okay, so five years later steve rogers now
leads a support group i thought that was wild for those left behind yeah but then in san francisco
scott lang escapes from the quantum realm which i guess happened at the end of ant-man oh this i'm
reading okay where you become strapped at the end of ant-man and the wasp when a rat activates the
quantum tunnel instead of louise's van he learns what happened to the world, reunites with his now teenage daughter, Cassie,
and then goes to the Avengers compound.
That I thought was like really smart.
I didn't see Ant-Man and the Wasp,
but I was like, oh, okay, something happened at that point.
But I like that I knew that he was gone
or like supposedly gone.
We need to back up really quick to this support group
because Marvel made a lot of hay
going into Endgame
that there was going to be gay representation
in this film. Oh no, was it just the support group?
Wait, was it just that man going on a date?
It was just that man
going on a date. And I believe,
Leah, correct me if I'm wrong, that is one of the
Russo brothers, right? It sure is.
Oh. Yeah.
Oh my God, that is really funny. One of the Russo brothers, one of the directors of the movie. They're like, don't worry, we? It sure is. Oh. That is really funny.
One of the Russo brothers, one of the directors of the movie.
They're like, don't worry, we've got it covered.
And they couldn't even
throw some gay actor
a bone. They couldn't even throw
like,
get Leslie Jordan in there.
Oh boy, how funny that
would be. I went on a date with
somebody. You're like like what is this movie
this took a turn i would love it i would love it so yeah that was their big gay representation
moment and it was so obnoxious so really wild i think like bill just like the first the first
gay character in the mcu oh my god yeah hard to even call that a character. Wow. That's crazy.
Nameless man.
Nameless man who cried during
dessert.
I hope it says
that on his IMDb.
The only time I cry during dessert is when I see the portions.
They're small.
Oh my god.
Okay, so at the compound block,
Widow checks in with other Avengers
across the globe and galaxies.
Scott arrives and tells them
that the five years he spent in the quantum realm
only felt like five hours
and that, therefore, it might be theoretically possible
to travel back in time,
retrieve the Infinity Stones,
and bring everybody back by doing their own snap.
To help with the physics,
the group goes to Tony Stark,
who now lives in the woods with Pepper
and their five-year-old daughter, Morgan.
Tony initially declines and sends them away,
but then later at night cracks the science
in one go behind
time travel and debates what to do. Meanwhile,
the other Avengers recruit Bruce Banner,
who has somehow made peace with the Hulk and
now lives as a smart Hulk hybrid.
I literally was like to Mike, I'm like,
why does he look like Mark Ruffalo now? And he was like, they'll explain it in a smart Hulk hybrid. I literally was like to Mike, I'm like, why does he look like Mark Ruffalo now?
And he was like,
they'll explain it in a second.
Okay.
It didn't quite make sense to me.
I was like,
so he's just somewhere in between.
Yeah.
And like,
then the part,
well,
which we'll get to when,
what's her name from Dr.
Strange,
the woman.
Oh,
Tilda Swinton.
Yeah.
Tilda Swinton. Yeahilda Swinton, yeah.
When she like punches him
out of himself,
I just was like,
what's happening?
And does he want to be
in the Hulk body
or would he rather
be able to go back to himself?
Because it felt like in that moment
he was like mad
that they were separated.
I don't know.
I think the implication is
that if he goes back
to just being regular Mark Ruffalo,
he will always have to deal with like
when he gets angry, he becomes the Hulk.
And so the answer is
to just be Hulk, but have his
control over his emotions.
So it's not that out of control thing
where he loses himself within.
I see. Yeah.
I will say the scene
of the Hulk and when Ant-Man is
like, hey, do you want a picture of me too?
That is exactly what it's like going out with Bowen Yang in WeHo.
We're like, everyone's like, Bowen, Bowen, Bowen.
And I'm like, hi.
I got to also pop in.
I'm like, no, thank you.
So they run some unsuccessful time travel tests on Scott Lang, which this went on for a little bit too long.
He came back as a baby, a teen, an old man, and he peed himself before Tony shows up with a time travel GPS as well as Steve Rogers shield.
And Nebula and Rocket rejoin the Avengers on Earth and they recruit the remaining members.
Bruce and Rocket travel to New Asgard in Norway and recruit Thor, who has fallen into a depression. Natasha goes to Tokyo to get Hawkeye,
who has fallen down a dark path and has become a ruthless assassin targeting criminals who
survived the snap. And they're dynamic. The snap will never not make me laugh. I'm so sorry.
I know. When they get back to New York, Hawkeye volunteers to do the time travel test run,
and it works. Now, what's going on with Natasha and Hawkeye?
And Hawkeye's married.
In the first minute, his family disappears.
Then I feel like there was tension with Natasha all the time.
I think they had like something going on.
At one point they were like, this isn't Russia.
I don't know.
They said like this is like Budapest.
They have like a backstory there.
Yeah, but it's like they are strictly friends.
I think like and I think the fact that you struggle to see that is really it's really telling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It really is telling about the way society has affected you.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, men and women can't be friends.
Sorry about it.
They fuck or they hit each other.
Yeah.
I struggle with Jeremy Renner.
I do.
I like his haircut.
No.
As a person, I struggle with him.
Oh, because I was picturing when it got all wet.
But I do think he's good.
Okay, wait.
Go ahead.
What did you say?
I just struggle with Jeremy Renner.
It's sort of the Chris Pine of it all,
where you know too much about who they are as real men.
It becomes distracting to watch them on screen suddenly.
Which makes the fact that Hawkeye is sort of the heart of the movie
a little bit of a struggle for me.
I don't think I know much about Jeremy Renner.
Oh, I know a few facts, and I want Joel to tell them more.
Because I know that he flips houses. Oh. And I I know much about Jeremy Renner. Oh, I know a few facts and I want Joel to tell them more because I know that he flips
houses. Oh. And I also
know that he's a musician. Hard to believe he's a superhero
flipping houses.
And he also had an
album. What? Of
music. Right?
Yes, that is
definitely true. He's just said
a lot of really like
not great things.
I'm not familiar with his quotes.
Yeah.
He's had a couple of really douchey
quotes come out. He also had a
social media site game
that was all about him.
Oh, yeah. I thought he had
an app or a site. Yeah, it was about
him. It was a Jeremy Renner app, and it was just
about him. That's pretty funny. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you or a site. Yeah, it was about him. It was a Jeremy Renner app, and it was just about him.
That's pretty funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, you got to love yourself.
Yeah.
He's just, we don't need to dwell too much on it.
But he is not, he's a little bit of a douchebag.
He's not for you.
He's not for me.
But I do weirdly find that, even despite that,
a lot of the stuff with Hawkeye very effective in the movie, I will say.
When his family disappeared,
I cried.
It was sad, because I liked that
littlest one with the big fluffy hair who was like,
I like ketchup! And then he
disappeared, and I was like, oh no.
Well, I knew something crazy was about to happen, because it was such a weird
start to the movie, and then they were like,
ketchup or mustard? I like ketchup. It was really slow, and I was like, what's going on? Something's about to happen because it was like such a weird start to the movie. And then they were like, ketchup or mustard? I like ketchup.
It was like really slow.
And I was like, what's going on?
Something's about to happen.
Of course, I'd forgotten that everyone was in the middle of disappearing into moths.
But it was really crazy.
And then I was like, if I were him, I would wish that I had just disappeared because that would be horrible.
Your whole family's just gone.
I can't.
Well, that's why he started murdering. So the Avengers plan out their time heist
using their past
to pinpoint destinations for
Infinity Stones. Thor explains
that the Reality Stone was on Asgard
in 2013, essentially summarizing the
events of Thor Dark World. Nebula and
Rocket know from Guardians of the Galaxy
and Infinity War that the Power and Soul
Stones are on
Morag and Vormir, respectively.
The other stones, they're all in New York in 2012.
Loki had the Mine and Space stone during the Avengers,
and as far as I know, Doctor Strange had the Time stone a few blocks downtown.
And then I didn't understand, I mean, I guess I'll get to the part where they talk to Tilda Swinton,
but like, when he gets there and then she's like, he hasn't come here yet.
I'm like, wait, does she know all the past and future
at the same time?
I think it's implied that she has like some insight
into what's going to happen.
Yeah, like in the same way that Stephen Strange
knows like what's going to,
like all the different many things that could happen.
I think like wearing the time stone
sort of gives you a spoiler.
But why didn't she know about Thanos and Stephen Strange giving,
she was like, he must have given it for a reason.
Like, how come she didn't just know that?
You know, that's a good question that I do not have an answer to.
And that is a note that you should have given in the room.
Yes, yes.
I foolishly was quiet in the room.
Okay.
They split into three teams.
Rogers, Stark, Banner, and Lang arrive at the Battle of New York.
Bruce Banner goes to the Sanctum Santorum and finds the Ancient One there
because Doctor Strange hasn't happened yet.
And they bargain and brainstorm for the Time Stone.
And the Ancient One warns against
creating branch alternate realities.
At Stark Tower, Scott and Tony attempt
to steal the Tesseract, a.k.a. the Space Stone,
but loses it to Loki, who uses it to escape.
Steve obtains the Scepter, a.k.a. the Mind Stone,
after first pretending to be an undercover HYDRA agent,
then fighting his 2012 self.
That part was wild.
Yeah.
It was great.
And I do love that they call out his ass.
Like him looking at his own ass.
The scene that launched a thousand fan fictions of just Steve Rogers fucking himself on the ground.
I mean, he does have a good butt when he's laying there
on the ground.
I was like,
that is a nice little rub.
Yeah.
It makes me horny
to this day.
Yeah,
it made me pretty horny too.
I was like,
yum, yum, yum.
So,
Tony, Steve,
Bruce, and Scott
rendezvous.
Bruce and Scott
go back to the present,
forced to improvise.
Steve and Tony
go to a SHIELD base
in New Jersey in 1970.
Did, was that Stan Lee in the car did they cgi him in there yeah i think he's he he hadn't died yet
i don't know he hadn't no he had he died he had right he died right before captain marble
oh okay because that was pretty wild i mean but also they filmed these all at the same time.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think they're doing,
I don't think they're digitally inserting Stan Lee anymore.
Like, I don't think that's a thing that they're doing.
So I think he probably filmed this before.
I don't know.
It would be so weird if they were digitally inserting him.
I don't like that at all.
I don't like that.
I'm looking at a picture where it looks like they're filming it and he's sitting there.
I can't tell, though, because I don't know what's real in the world.
That all might be fake, too.
Oh, my God.
Okay, so they know Howard Stark is studying the Tesseract and Hank Pym is developing Pym particles.
It's so funny that they're all just in the same building.
They are successful, but Steve is distracted by Peggy Carter.
And Tony runs into his own
daddy and his father's butler Jarvis.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
Who's Jarvis?
Wasn't his character, wasn't his like thing named Jarvis that he used?
Yes.
The computer was named after this man.
Oh, I see.
And the part with his dad where he's like, I hope I don't have a son.
He'll be just like, or he'll be just like me.
And I was like, oh no.
Whoops, whoops, whoops, whoops.
You're telling the exact wrong person.
So Thor and Rocket arrive on Asgard in 2013 and Thor has a panic attack when he sees his mother, Frigga.
Her name is Frigga?
Moments before he knows she'll be killed. Big Frigga.
So Rocket goes to get
the eighth there,
aka the reality stone,
while Thor talks to Frigga.
Before they leave,
Thor summons Mjolnir
and takes that with him as well.
I thought the moment
with his mom was really nice.
It was really sweet.
This is also confusing, though,
because, like,
in that timeline, like,
is Thor just missing his hammer now?
It's a chaotic thing for him to do because he doesn't know that they're going to go.
Thor does not know that Bruce has decided to take back all of the stones to, like, close loops.
He doesn't know that that's the plan.
So I because, like, at the end, you see Steve has the hammer and he's going to take it back.
But Thor didn't know that was the plan. So for all he knows, yeah, he's just left
another Thor without
a hammer. Yeah.
Interesting. I feel like when I
watched this, I thought everything connected
and it made sense.
And now I'm going, oh, I guess there was
something. But then I was like, there was a
point where Thor didn't have a hammer, but it
landed in the middle of
somewhere and that's where he meets Natalie Portman.
So yeah, that doesn't... Can I also
share that the reshoot Natalie Portman
did was not the scene with
Rocket Raccoon. That was old footage
from when she actually shot Thor
The Dark World. The reshoot was just
her in the hallway with the maids
walking into the room.
That was what they called Natalie
the Portman back to
set. To walk down a hall?
To walk down a hall.
And quite honestly, I'm sure she probably was
like, whatever it is, just make it
me walking down a hall.
Like Natalie Portman was like,
and I'm sure she got paid a million
dollars. Well, that's what I was thinking.
I'm like, how much do you get paid for just to
pop in for a day at that
point? Oh, my God.
What is a day rate when you're Natalie Portman?
Yeah. I know.
SAG minimum. SAG minimum.
She got $1,500.
Or is it $1,500? I mean, I don't
know. Arriving
in space in 2014, Clint, Natasha,
Nebula, and Rhodey split into two teams. Clint
and Natasha head for Vormir, while Ne and roadie wait for peter quill to arrive on morag and steal the org aka
the power stone but 2014 stanis nebula and gamora who has not yet met peter quill and is not yet a
guardian they're also looking for the power stone on morag and then they detect the other nebula
which i was like oh no nebula you're that was a liability i didn't like that me either
roadie gets away but 2023 nebula is captured um 2014 thanos learns of the avengers future plans
and sends 2014 nebula back to 2023 as a spy i feel like with nebula wasn't it in what movie was it
the one before this i guess the avengers before this where she's like hanging and being tortured.
I hate the visual of her
hanging like that. I don't like it either.
It seems so painful and awful even though she's
not real or something.
I don't really understand what she is.
She's like a cyborg with feelings?
She used to be like a humanoid
but then every time she lost
or did something bad, he would replace
one of her parts with an android part in order to make her better.
And that's why she is the way she is.
It's kind of Wizard of Oz-ish.
She's the Tin Man.
Yes, exactly that.
All right, I get it now.
It makes sense in ways that no one understands.
Meanwhile, Clint and Natasha arrive on Vormir.
They meet Red Skull, learn that one of them must die in order for the other to obtain the Soul Stone,
and the two fight over which of them should sacrifice themselves.
Nat wins, so to speak, and jumps off the cliff to her death.
Also hated that.
I hated that, too.
I saw this with Bowen in the theaters
and we were screaming.
I thought it was so, so funny.
The escalation of like,
the like constant escalation of like,
you not knowing which one of them was going to do.
It was so, so funny.
It was like, I thought it was hilarious
and I thought it was so well done.
And then deeply affecting when it was,
did end up being that.
And I will say they they did a pretty good job.
Like, I really could have seen it going either way. It was like, yeah.
And I really did think it was going to be a Shantae, you both stay sort of moment.
But, you know, it was one of those close lip syncs.
Yeah.
So Clint returns to the present with the other Avengers,
minus Natasha, including 2013 Nebula and the Stones.
They construct a new gauntlet,
and Bruce Banner volunteers to do the snap elsewhere.
2014 Nebula opens a portal, bringing 2014 Thanos to Earth.
Just as the Avengers realize their snap was successful,
2014 Thanos attacks.
Wait, can I, I have a question actually, Leah.
I'm not quite clear on how they time traveled.
So Nebula takes the Pym particle
and then she sneaks away while Bruce is snapping
and opens.
She puts her fingies.
She fingers a computer.
Yeah.
And opens the machine again to let Thanos through.
Oh, all of them though?
Like the big ships and everything?
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know about them, but I, but that's like the main ship.
Got it.
Okay.
That makes it.
Oh, I do remember that part now.
And I feel stupid for asking, but I just like the whole army that with, I guess, was like confusing to me how they all got there.
Yeah, I'm less clear on that.
Okay, okay.
Well, it's not important.
Let's continue.
Well, you know we can't tell you.
On Thanos' ship, 2023 Nebula convinces 2014 Gamora to switch sides.
So, oh my God.
The Avengers are scattered and scramble to escape from rubble.
2023 Nebula kills 2014 Nebula.
Iron Man, Captain America, and Thor confront Thanos and start a fight,
during which Cap summons and wields Mjolnir,
but Thanos slashes his shield in half and summons his army.
But then Steve gets a message over comms from Sam Wilson and portals start appearing all around them, orchestrated by Doctor Strange.
Sorcerers bring every Avenger and Guardian who Thanos snapped away.
Allies like Wasp, Wong, Pepper Potts in a suit of armor, as well as armies from Wakanda, Asgard, Kamar-taj, Kamar-taj,
and more to the compound to fight Thanos' army.
I liked it.
It was fun.
Yeah, this is when it was getting a little exciting.
I find, look, I've seen almost every Marvel movie
in theaters opening weekend,
and Marvel fans are very apt to scream and cheer
when certain things happen in movies.
And I will say most of the time, I am not down for that sort of behavior in the theater.
But when Bowen and I saw this stoned out of our minds at an Alamo draft house in Austin, Texas, we screamed and cheered.
We did.
Because it was very effective.
To react to these movies.
I feel like that would help me if people were screaming around me while I watched them.
Yeah, to be like, oh, this is good.
This is good.
I like it.
Yeah.
It was fun, though.
But I will say, can I say, so this battle goes on and there's lots of casualties only in the non-superhero people that they bring.
Like a lot of Wakanda people die.
A lot of Kamar-Taj people die. A lot of Kamar Taj people die.
A lot of, you know, every, all of them die.
Could you imagine if you came back from the snap
and then immediately died in the battle?
That would be so annoying.
I'd be so pissed.
I'd be like, this is so annoying.
I literally just got back and now I'm dead?
Like what?
Now I'm dead again?
Oh my God.
Oh, yeah.
And no one is snapping me back this time, babe.
Now it's for real, I guess.
It's for real?
I got stomped by a little monster?
Oh.
Okay, so Bruce orders they keep the gauntlet and the quantum tunnel safe
so they can return the stones and eliminate alternate realities. This starts a relay race to get the gauntlet and the quantum tunnel safe so they can return the stones and eliminate alternate realities.
This starts a relay race to get the gauntlet to the Ant-Man in Luis's van.
From Clint to T'Challa to Spider-Man, Wanda attacks Thanos for visiting Thanos.
I gave him like a really Greek name.
Yeah, Thanos.
Attacks Thanos for killing Vision.
He orders a missile strike, which is stopped by none other than Carol Danvers arriving late.
She's like, I just got out of the salon.
I just had to get a haircut.
So I will say the like passing of the gauntlet that those sorts of sequences.
That is why I like the team movies, like the movies with a lot of the superheroes, because you get everyone gets their little moment and it's like it is a lot it is like scratching a very primal like itch in my brain to like watch superheroes like work together in
tandem together and like those moments I just watched and I will say watching it again I teared
up when I saw Chadwick Boseman yeah I did he was so good so good. I have a question. So I'm going back a little bit. When Peter Parker is
like, I guess I just like took a nap. And then we were there for like five minutes. I was like,
how come he's saying, I guess I took a nap. Why doesn't this little boy know what's going on?
How come nobody explained shit to him, but then he was explaining everything.
He was snapped back. And like to him, it's like, you know how sometimes you close your eyes and
you wake up and it's 4 p.m. and you're like, oh my God, I'm late. You know, like it's like you know how sometimes you close your eyes and you wake up and it's 4 p.m and you're like oh my god i'm late you know like it's like that but it happened
across five years and then there is there was no time because dr strange is like we gotta go we
gotta help and so he just didn't you know and he's a teenager he's dumb he's a little giddy he'll
catch on later yeah um okay so car, with an assist from the ladies,
gets the gauntlet from Spider-Man.
This fucking ladies, let's get in formation moment
is so...
It is Disney at its worst, I will say.
It's like Disney flexing and being like,
look at all the female representation that we have.
Look at all these female side characters that we've created across many different films.
Like, yeah, right.
It is so annoying.
And it also doesn't actually make sense in the it didn't feel organic at all because like Wasp is there.
And it's like, wait a minute.
Wasp was all the way over in the van.
So you're telling me Wasp was like, oh my god, the girls
are getting together. I have to go.
I'm so sorry. My girls are getting
together. I gotta go and do that.
I gotta get in the girl group pic.
I'm so sorry. You guys, I wasn't even here yet.
You started walking.
And I don't mean to be a bitch
about this, because I'm sure that for some little girls
out there, that was very
affecting, and it worked. But just from a purely like story standpoint I was just like there is no reason to
do this in this moment and and if you did want to do it there had to be a better way to like
organically get all of the women there and like to make it such a moment to sort of takes away
from it it's like yeah just have, just have,
just have it happen.
We're all,
it just happens that all the female superheroes are there.
And it's like,
not like putting a spotlight on it in the way that they did just made it
seem like,
look at all the good we do.
Look at all the good we do.
And it's like,
just let it happen.
Like let it happen organically.
There is a moment like that in Infinity War.
There's a moment in that battle where I think it's like Black Widow and Okoye and then Wanda comes over.
And they're fighting Carrie Coon.
And it is just a lovely little, oh, it's all ladies here.
That's kind of cool.
It's different.
here that's kind of cool it's different and it doesn't make it doesn't make a point of like highlighting it in a way that like is like this is a this is a win for feminism it just like lets
you it just lets you wash over it you know you know it washes over you in a really subtle way
which is like much more effective i think than what this beyonce moment is. So they're trying to get to the van.
Thanos destroys the van.
Tony, Steve, Thor, and Carol
fight off Thanos
to keep him from the gauntlet.
Tony asks Doctor Strange
if they're doing the right thing.
He hints that they are.
Tony grabs the gauntlet
and distracts Thanos
while transferring the stones
to his own suit.
Tony then snaps,
turning Thanos and his army
to dust and dies.
Surrounded by the Avengers and his wife yeah i didn't like that like i was very sad i was like oh god no and it's like real
is that um just you're spoiled she sure did yeah that's why oh my god that's so funny she sure did
that's such a big spoiler it was and i And I knew going in what was going to happen,
but it was,
it happened in such a way that I was still like kind of taken off guard.
And I was like,
Oh God,
this is very sad.
I know.
Well,
so then we have the funeral.
So later at Tony and Pepper's cabin,
the Avengers hold a funeral in new Asgard.
Thor appoints Valkyrie as their people's new King and leaves with the
guardians.
Finally, Steve prepares to travel through time and return each stone and mule near.
When he doesn't return, Sam and Bucky discover an older Steve sitting on a bench.
He reveals that he decided to break the rules and retire and passes the shield to Sam.
In a past moment, we see him dancing with Peggy Carter.
I mean, I think that's really sweet.
I thought it was sweet, but I was like,
so did none of the Captain America stuff happen?
What does that mean for what did happen?
The branching timeline that he created
so that he could, like, get laid.
I, yeah.
It's also rude because he went to the Smithsonian
and he saw her in a documentary talk about
how she had, like, a husband and kids, and he saw her in a documentary talk about how she had like a husband and kids.
And he said, whatever.
Oh, my God.
Right.
No, no.
We really are.
Me.
She's like, no, me.
Yeah.
I will say the level of detail in the funeral.
I will give it to them.
They even brought back the little boy from Iron Man three.
Like he is at that
funeral. Okay, I was wondering if there was a boy, and I was
like, who's that supposed to be? Yeah.
It is the boy from Iron Man 3.
The one that he, like, teams up with and
helps. Oh, you didn't see 3.
Right? Yeah. No.
So, in Iron Man 3, there is, like,
a child character that
helps Tony sort of,
like, get back in touch with himself in a,
in a very specific way.
And like they,
they form a close bond in Iron Man three and,
and he ends up at the funeral as well.
And other fun facts,
none of those actors knew whose funeral they were at or if it was actually a
funeral.
So they were all shot separately.
Yeah,
they were all,
I don't know if they were shot separately.
No,
they were just told they were shooting a funeral scene. No, actually they were told they were shooting a separately. Yeah, they were. I don't know if they were shot separately. No, they were just told they were shooting a funeral scene.
No, actually, they were told they were shooting a wedding.
Yes.
And that's why they were in formal wear.
Wow.
You know how you go to a wedding in a black dress?
Yeah.
And then that was like they were doing all the takes and then they're like, actually, can we get one where you all look sad?
Don't question it.
Yeah, this is just for funsies.
How funny.
Yeah.
That is the goofiness of Marvel,
but I love it.
I do love it.
Wow.
That's fun to be doing something you have no idea what it is.
That also helps Gwyneth Paltrow's point that she was like,
where am I?
Because there are probably times they just don't explain anything.
Yeah, no, exactly.
Or like, it's fine.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Just say the lines.
Just say the lines.
Who could possibly blame her?
I mean, not I.
Okay, so in terms of awards,
Endgame was nominated for an Oscar for Best Visual Effects
and won in that category at the Critics' Choice Awards.
It also was nominated for Best Score at the Grammys.
Awards trivia,
Endgame is the first film to be the highest grossing film
of all time upon release that didn't win an Oscar.
Oh.
With the reception of the film, Endgame grossed $2.798 billion worldwide, becoming the highest grossing film of all time.
It was surpassed in 2021 by a re-release in China of 2009's Avatar.
That's insane.
That's crazy.
It was a re-release.
The film opened at
$1.2 billion worldwide,
which is the biggest
opening numbers of all time
and nearly doubled
the previous record,
which was held by
Avengers Infinity War.
That's so much money.
Endgame has a high
approval rating on
Rotten Tomatoes,
holding a 94% approval.
Audience polled on
CinemaScore,
giving the film
a rare A-plus grade.
Wow, they love it.
Love it. We gotta take a break.
Now we're back from that break trivia yeah so when endgame surpassed titanic's box office total
director james cameron sent a congratulatory message to kevin feige and marvel studios along
with a photo of the avengers a as the iceberg sinking the titanic okay so on that wow you know Titanic. Okay, so Anya. Cat. Wow. You know what? I would rather James Cameron be working on Avatar 2
instead of sending messages to people
because I've been waiting.
Photoshopping.
Yeah.
Been waiting.
Sitting at the Photoshop.
Endgame is the longest movie in the MCU
and also the longest movie of all of the cast's careers.
I mean, I'm sure that's true.
It's like very rare to do a movie
that's over three hours.
Yeah.
Robert Downey Jr. was the only actor
who read the entire script,
but they were all sent the script.
No, I'm just kidding.
I don't know.
I guess he was the only one.
He was the only one who was sent it, probably.
Because he had to be died.
He had to be dead.
As we mentioned in previous episodes,
this film was shot back to back with Avengers Infinity War
over the period of 200 days.
Wow, that's long.
What?
Oh my God.
Evangeline Lilly and Paul Rudd also filmed Ant-Man and the Wasp
at the same time as this film?
I'm like, what's going on?
My God.
And even though Captain Marvel was released a month before Endgame,
Brie Larson shot her scenes for this movie first.
The scene at the Avengers headquarters was Larson's first day on set as Carol Danvers.
Captain Marvel's directors, Anna Boden and Ryan Fleek, were there to ensure consistency between the films.
But that's why her hair was her regular hair in this one.
In the movie, they made it wigs.
Probably so it's easier to deal with.
It's a good thing that they did that with her character
because she's not a character.
So it didn't really matter.
There wasn't much consistency.
That is true.
There's not a lot to the character.
I wish the character had more personality.
Like they don't give her a lot to play with.
No.
In fact,
the whole point of Captain Marvel in her movie is that she's a cypher.
She doesn't remember who she is.
Right.
I could go on.
That's true because they show all her memories where she's fun and doing things.
Yeah, and she's like, I don't know how to have fun.
I don't do karaoke.
I was just about to say, I can't do karaoke anymore.
I would never.
Here's a new segment.
Is Chris in this? You better
believe this movie had
all the Chris's. A Hemsworth,
an Evans, a Pratt,
a Pine. A Pine?
Oh no, he wasn't. No.
A Pine? No.
No, no, no, no.
Not Pine. I was thinking of Pratt. I was literally imagining him dancing.
I'm like, oh, wait, no,
that was a different movie.
No, that was what I was thinking of.
Chris Pine is never in these movies.
We don't know.
I think he's in Star Trek.
Yeah, who is that?
Okay, great.
And he's in Wonder Woman.
He's in Wonder Woman.
Yes, yes, yes.
So is there any other Chris,
Joel, that you would love to see in this
that could be a Christine, a Kristen,
any Chrissy, you know?
I actually am surprised that she's not in it
but a Christine Baranski moment
in one of these films we need her to be
I would love her in this could be really great
yeah no another segment
is is kiss in this this is
a scene a segment where we talk about if there was a
kiss in the film and was there
a kiss there wasn't but I was really
hoping that Tilda Swintz, after she got
or after she gave Bruce the
Infinity Stone, I wanted her to just like kiss
his little nipple.
She was right there.
Do Peggy and Steve not kiss at the end of the movie?
Oh, they do. They definitely do.
That's nice.
That was a good romantic plot of the film.
It was.
Okay, here's our segment, Five Stark Industries, where we read positive reviews of our own podcast.
It didn't seem insane until it was phrased that way.
I know.
Five stars from Cheesemade28G.
This show is going to get me fired.
Made the mistake of listening at work and I nearly spat my coffee out all over my desk.
My co-workers are starting to give me weird looks because I'm unsuccessfully trying to stifle my
laughs worth it oh thanks love that so in addition to apple reviews we are also going to read reviews
from letterbox and give a one sentence review and a star rating okay this is by number one gizmo fan
make a three-hour ant-man movie and you'll have my respect. Pretty funny.
You know what?
I wouldn't be mad at that because I really enjoy it.
I loved Ant-Man.
My favorite part in the movie
is when he was like,
flick me and he bent right over.
Oh my God,
that was hilarious
when he flicked him.
So funny.
That was really funny.
Okay, so this other one
is from former movie enjoyer,
three and a half stars.
After much deliberation,
I'm ready to speak my truth.
I think the Hulk looks kind of hot in this movie. this movie well look you don't have to deliberate much at
all he looked hot in other movies where we saw him in a towel yeah we like hulk the hulk is hot but
can you i just like that's an anal fissure waiting to happen i'm sorry i like there's just not enough
lube in the world like the pain is out of control. I mean, I would take it because I need to know what it feels like.
I would do it.
I would just do it.
It's truly got to be like four Coke cans.
There are Hulk dildos out there that are like supposed to look like what it might actually look like.
We've never typed so fast in our life.
It's on Etsy. It's on our lives. It's on Etsy.
It's on Etsy.
It is on Etsy.
That was my first.
Oh, oh, oh.
Wow.
Okay, like some of them are good
and some of them are not good.
I have some notes on some of these,
but there's one that is really shiny.
Do you see that one?
Yeah.
The first one that appears,
it is $345 is wild. It has. This is incredible. It has. Does he have balls? This is also pretty. It's like squat.
Yeah, I'm looking at that one. I don't like that one.
Yeah, that one is, first of all, so expensive. The balls are like an extra Play-Doh sack attached to it like what's happening and it's
nine and a half inches oh wait usable length is only six inches maximum because the balls
maximum girth is uh three and a half inches okay the head is 2.4 the head girth i don't love um the description is you will love me when i'm angry
oh my god oh my god that's wild there's only one review amazing quality super fast shipping
well it's really expensive i feel like that many people are buying that thing also this product is
so gigantic it won't fit into their standard dildo packaging.
So what, it gets in a big box?
A dildo, oh, dildo, I think
is the company, you get a drawstring
sport pack for free!
That you can wear on your back?
I guess so. Like, where are you off to?
When the dildo needs a backpack.
That moment when the dildo needs a backpack.
That feeling when.
No.
Oh, my God.
Okay, Joel, what is your one-sentence review
and star rating of this film?
I'm going to say my one-sentence review for this movie is
it is for little boys like me and um and and in this case boy is non-gendered
let me be very clear let me be very clear i mean spiritually um and i'm gonna give this
is it how out of how many stars five five four for sure good okay um i'm gonna give it Five. Four. For sure. Good. Okay.
I'm going to give it,
God, it's so hard to give these really high scores because I'm also going like,
why am I watching this?
You know, I have a hard time focusing.
Compared to other things,
I'm like, I did think it was like a smartly,
okay, so I'm going to say,
smartly written, complicated storylines,
loved the romance.
I'll give it four stars.
I don't remember what I gave
Infinity War. I know, that's the thing.
I'm like, I don't have my bar figured out.
Yeah, I'm gonna give it four and a half stars.
I really liked it.
Okay, so my one sentence review was
they explained where the dust people
went and I like that
good time
good time
oh my god
we did it
well Joel you're so awesome
thank you for doing this
thank you for having me
what would you like to plug
she said it up top.
Watch Fire Island on Hulu.
Watch my stand-up special
on Netflix,
Psychosexual on Netflix.
And watch Loot on Apple TV+.
So many good things.
Yes, so many wonderful things.
I'm so excited
to watch your special.
It's out now?
Me too.
It's out June 21st,
so I think by the time this...
Yes, yes, yes.
Ugh, I'm so excited.
Yay!
That's so awesome. Yeah, it was like a joy to... I know I didn't watch you work out the whole thing. So I think by the time this airs, it will be out. That's so awesome.
Yeah, it was like a joy to like,
I know I didn't want you to like work out the whole thing,
but like I've seen you perform so many times.
So I'm like excited to see what jokes I know made it in.
I'm just so proud of you.
And like, it feels so good.
Thank you.
Saying I'm proud sounds wild,
but I'm so joyful for your success.
I love you, Joel.
Thank you so much.
That's a really nice way of saying that.
Thank you.
That's so sweet.
Thank you.
I really appreciate that. Thank you so much. That's a really nice way of saying that. Thank you. That's so sweet. Thank you. I really appreciate that.
It's so exciting. And
okay, we'll be back next week with
WandaVision. See you then. Bye-bye.
Bye-bye. Bye. Thank you. That was a HidGum Original.