Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Batman 1989 (w/ Taran Killam)

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

Lauren and Nicole’s Batman journey continues with very special guest Taran Killam (Spamalot, Hamilton, SNL, Single Parents, River Wild) explaining the cultural impact that is 1989’s Batman starring Michael Keaton. All questions, including whether or not Bruce Wayne has ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight, will be answered.Next week's movie: Batman Returns (1992). Follow Taran: Instagram, TwitterLike the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Across this nation, the words Gotham City are synonymous with pride. Our streets are overrun, our public officials are helpless. What are you? I'm Batman. I'm reading your stuff. I'm Vicki Vale. Vicki Vale, yeah, yeah, photographer.

What brings you here? I'm here to see some of the wildlife. God, I'm sick of it. Yeah. Who are you? Oh, sorry, Bruce Wayne. And what do you do for a living? My life is really complex. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Freak. Wait till they get a load of me. This town needs an enema. A lot of people think you're as dangerous as the Joker. Fuck you. I think your friend Wayne is really screwed up. His parents were murdered in that hell. I have given a name to my pain. Batman.

He's out there right now. I've gotta go to work. If you gotta go, go with the slob. Go with the smoke! You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight? 🎵 Batman! Wow. I'm Nicole Byer. And I'm Lauren Lapkus.

And this season we are covering the Batman movies. Yes, this is the second episode of the sixth season. We're working our way through these movies within the Batman universe with the help of fellow newcomer superfans and sometimes people who have contributed to the universe. And this season is going to be 14 episodes culminating in a very exciting live stream episode where anything can happen and it's live. We're going to cover as much as we can get to to overview, you know, the franchise. We're not going to get to everything. No. Too much. Yeah, there's just too much. It's too dense.

But today we are going to be discussing the 1989 Batman starring Michael Keaton. Mm-hmm. Batman is available with a subscription to Max, Hulu, Prime Video. But if you want to give somebody money, Apple TV+, Google Play, and Vodoo, and we're going to spoil the shit out of this. But we are so excited for our guest today. Our guest is an actor, comedian, writer, producer, director, and singer. You've probably seen him on SNL, How I Met Your Mother, New Girl, or maybe even in the Broadway production

of Hamilton. It's Taryn Killam. Hi, my friends. Hi, hi, hi. Oh my gosh. such a newcomers fan so honored to be on this the most important season of your lives it does feel really important yes because people seem to really love batman i think they do i i wait i need to talk about hamilton yes that's what i want to talk about was that the most amazing i feel like that was the most perfect role for you in the world so fucking good yeah i think yes it was i felt like a contest winner um it was at that point you know everybody's favorite thing in the world like this is this is a true story on the six years i was on snl the total request for tickets for that show was fewer in those six years than the three months i did hamilton does that make sense? Meaning that people crawling out of the woodwork

like everybody trying to get Hamilton tickets. And a lot of people try to get us, you know, like one or two but this was overwhelming to the point of like delete, you know, blocking emails. It was, people loved it and I

love doing it and that passion that passion for the show certainly informed like my experience in terms of like the pressure the stress of just like you know pull your weight dude yeah and it was truly one of the most rewarding and and thrilling professional experiences of my life. Second, only maybe to this. Yeah. Well, obviously this is important. This podcast is important.

This is, well, yes, this, this movie that we're about to talk about for the very first time is, is, is truly the movie that made me want to do showbiz to me that makes sense i think like what i loved i loved all the characters and how i just i like tim burton style and everything

and i think watching this as a kid it gives you that feeling of like wow like adults get to have a really cool job like if you do this for a living it's so cool yes what i'm doing in the backyard as a seven-year-old child these people are doing like full throttle with a huge budget like making magic seem real that is funny because that's literally what we do what children do we play pretend and get paid money yeah it's insane it's wild when you think about acting sometimes it makes me like sick like when i think about like walking up to someone in the scene i mean like why would you do that and like we're all you know we're all like yeah like being like really intense you're like trying to get there and what can i do to get there and it's like oh no or like someone puts a fake nose on you and you're

like what yeah yeah what is this especially like after a take or after performance where like that was that was good you found it that's where I really self check and go like I found playing like I found playing a 78 year old man in an improv who doesn't know what bananas are hey that's a good scene

and it killed it slaughtered it slaughtered sides were split like a, I feel it more during. Sides were split. Like a peel. I feel it more during like a dramatic scene that I feel like I didn't nail. And then I'm like, well, that's really rough. I really tried to do that. I tried really hard and I don't know how to be serious. I don't think I got that.

I was earnest in that take. I was earnest in that attempt. That's hard. Very vulnerable right now. I did a voiceover where I played an elephant and they were like, can you give us like elephant effort noises? And it was like very early in my career. And I was like, yes.

And they're like, go for it. And I was like, I'm sorry, what noises do elephants make? And they're like, you know, like. Wait, I literally had this happen recently with being a chicken who's about to laugh it was supposed to be a chicken noise into laughter could not could not do it i don't know that's an insane request and i tried i tried to practice in the car and i was like i have to die now. Like this is not cool. Okay.

Well, tell us really quickly. What is your relationship with Batman? We can talk about acting all day, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Batman, like comic books, superhero stuff died in the wall. Like from first memories those were my important stories important characters but it was always very bright

and colorful in the comic books and that and this movie Batman 89 Burton Keaton's Batman like was the first time that made it feel real because there's been Superman movies right like there's been the Christopher Reeve Superman like and those are impressive

and great but there's something about Superman that's like too fantastic he's an alien and he can fly and he never gets hurt and it's it's such fantasy this movie was like not only is Batman a real dude with exceptional skill but he might actually

exist like he's no longer Adam West in pajamas he is a real man with a bulletproof black rubber suit and he will he will appear through fog on gotham city rooftops and and right wrongs and i like that i like that too i love it i love this movie i love it was fun going back and watching it because like it held up and there was there was stuff that like I didn't necessarily pick up on the first time you know I like every every every rewatch it reveals something new for me yeah I had seen it as a kid but then um this was my first time watching it as an adult I think and it was really I mean I just thought it was really fun and I was very engaged the whole time Nicole I don't know was not engaged for 82 percent of the time that's okay because this came out in 89 oh there we go

that's why no that's why I don't know it was just like kind of slow I didn't like Jack Nicholson too too much yeah uh yeah it was just so Taryn's having a hard time I know I'm really sorry I know what I signed up for I know what I signed up for I'm like I said I'm an avid listener the fast season in my opinion is flawless I'm a huge myself I thought I'd seen every single movie and truly the second movie I was like I've never seen this in my life yeah yeah I'd seen every single movie and truly the second movie. I was like, I've never seen this in my life. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen one and five.

Nobody needs to see that one. I feel like they're all the same thing. No, I'm sorry. Fair enough. No, they're distinct and important. I'm about to get beaten down right now. They're distinct and important and they're cinema. Yes.

Thank you, Taryn. I respect everything that's happening here. Eat it, Scorsese. Eat it. You could never, Scorsese. You could never fast or furious. He really couldn't. Scorsese.

I like how you're saying that. Scorsese. Scorsese wishes. Okay, well, let's take a quick break, and we're going to jump deep into this. Deep, deep, deep. Deep. We're back. Okay, so this movie was written by

Sam Hamm. I'm honestly so happy for him. What a great name. And Warren Saccharin? It should be Warren Scorin

because it's like Sam Hamm and Warren Scorin. Yeah, Warren really fucked Warren scoring. Yeah. Warren really fucked that up. Yeah. Directed by Tim Burton, released June 19th, 1989. We're going to deep dive into this plot of this film and break it down for you guys. And we really want to thank the Batman fandom wiki for the help with this summary.

We love you guys. The movie opens in a crime-ridden Gotham City where we see two muggers attack a couple and their son. Batman, Michael Keaton, watches from above, then finds the muggers and beats them up, instructing them to tell all their friends about him as he jumps off a building and disappears. That was pretty funny to me because I was like,

that's how you're spreading the word about yourself? Yeah, just tell them. Like, what criminals are like friends and you tell two friends don't rob anymore there's a batman yeah i mean it sounds like everyone knows about him i feel they were talking yeah they were talking about him before he got there right like they were like it's the bat they said the bat got him and the only clarification that batman does bring is that he's not the bat. He's Batman. Not any old bat.

Batman. Which might be slightly less scary now that I think about it. If I'm really, if I'm really criticizing this. If he was a huge bat, I would be terrified. There's a giant mutant bat that's just like, that can sense like corrupt morality is terrifying.

No, that's scary. Because that's not going to listen to reason. No. This is a human being who's like, maybe I can defeat this man dressed as a bat. Yeah. But a genetically modified gigantic bat? No. No, thank you.

How did it happen? Okay, meanwhile, we see that a new district attorney, Harvey Dent, played by Billy Dee Williams, has been sworn in in a big flashy ceremony. His mission is to clean up the city of crime, in particular to protect them from crime boss Carl Grissom. Jack Napier, played by Jack Nicholson, who's Grissom's hitman, watches the event on TV, along with Alicia, Jerry Hall, who it turns out is in fact Grissom's mistress. Napier makes it clear he isn't afraid of either of them. Now, I'm watching this, and it became clear how much I didn't know about this because I was like, I thought he was Joker.

And then I literally was like, when does his face get Joker? Wait, which one? Jack Nicholson. Like, we see him regular. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was also confused. I was like, why?

No, because then I was like, oh. They tip it when he's playing with his cards, he holds yeah, yeah. I was also confused. I was like, why? No, because then I was like, oh. They tip it when he's playing with his cards. He holds up the Joker. There's some decent foreshadowing there. No, no, like I knew he still was Joker, but I was going, oh, when does he put on the makeup? Like, I didn't understand. It's an origin story.

We didn't know that there was going to be a backstory to him. Also, I was like, why does he watch TV with the TV on the floor? Who does that? Yeah. That really, I was like, this is sick. A joker. Yeah. A real joker.

He's just a weird guy. Well, I mean, Jack Nicholson's connection to this film was fascinating because he got like the biggest payday ever because they gave him back end points. So he made something like $50 million. He was like what Robert Downey Jr. Is to Iron Man. He was to this Batman franchise. Cause I think he still sees some sort of percentage from all future iterations of Joker.

Oh my God. And there's a fun. That never happens. But they, they pressured Jack. They wanted Jack and he kept saying no. So they offered it to Robin Williams to get under Jack Nicholson's skin. Just to fuck with him.

Just to fuck with him. And then Jack came back and was like, all right, I'll do it. And Robin was like heartbroken. Oh, that fucking sucks. Isn't that brutal? That's so sad. That's so brutal. That's so shitty. The only so brutal. That's so shitty.

The only equivalent I have in my life is like when I audition for something and I think I have a chance and then a celebrity gets it and I'm like, they never even wanted me. They didn't want me. Right. They didn't want me at all. I was but a pawn. Yeah. Mine's sadder. It'll just be another fat black woman who looks pretty much like me, who's at the same level as me.

And I go, I guess I wasn't good enough. Am I? I guess any way you slice it we're all getting rejected at some point. Alexander Knox Robble Wool Robber. I think it's Robert.

It's gotta be Robert. Okay, Batman fandom wiki. It's Arliss. Did you guys do a season on Arliss already? Did I miss that one? No, wait. You haven't done Newcomer's Arliss yet? We need to do New. It's Arliss. Did you guys do a season on Arliss already? Did I miss that one? No, no, wait, wait. You haven't done Newcomers Arliss yet? We need to do Newcomers Arliss. Wait, it's Robert, right? I've never seen.

Robert Wool, yes. Arliss. It says Robble, Robber, Robber Wool. Was this written by the Hamburglar? The Robble Robble. Oh my God, Robert Wool. A journalist who's trying to get answers about the supposed vigilante known as Batman meets photojournalist Vicki Vale, Kim Basinger,

who is intrigued by the Batman mystery and is going to help him find out who this guy really is. They attend a benefit at Bruce Wayne's estate. They briefly meet Bruce Wayne, and he's soon pulled away by Alfred, who ushers him into the Batcave. There, Bruce watches a tape of Commissioner Gordon talking to a police officer about a raid on Axis Chemicals. Okay, Kim Basinger, beautiful, also looks a lot like Jerry Hall. Yes. I found that a little confusing.

For a hot second, I said, these are different women. Yeah. And then I was like, Nicole. I know. Two blondes can be in a movie. Barbie. Barbie, now the highest grossing picture of all time for Warner Brothers. Yeah, yeah.

But are there even two blondes in Barbie? Listen, still haven't seen it. Okay, you've got to get on that. I know. Everyone has seen it already. There's no one to go with. Why don't we do Newcomers Barbie? We'll watch all those.

Straight to DVD. That's fine. Like cartoons for kids. Barbie and the one to go with. Why don't we do Newcomers Barbie? We'll watch all those like straight to DVD. That's fine. Like cartoons for kids. Barbie and the Magical Mermaid. I mean, we could. I've never seen them. Barbie Life in the Dreamhouse. You're familiar. Darren's very familiar.

I know them all. I'll sign up. You're going to be back. I have two daughters who are well-versed in the Barbie series. They're all those like computer movies where it looks like a computer game. Oh, yes, yes, yes. And to be honest. No, I just know. That TV show is called barbie life in the dream house it's pretty funny okay

there's some good bits there's some good bits okay then our season will be good um after arliss yeah arliss i don't know what arliss i just looked it up actually because of this where i was like i know that. I know he's on our list. I don't know what that means. And then I was like, I think he's a sports manager. It turns out he's a sports agent. He's an agent. I don't know how I knew any of that.

But yeah, that was a pretty long running show. It was on HBO? Yeah. Yes. So I do know something. Yeah, see? Okay. Grissom orders Jack Napier and his men to go to Axis Chemicals

and destroy any evidence connecting their gang to the chemical company. But when he gets there, Napier realizes they've been set up by Grissom and he finds himself in a shootout with Lieutenant Eckhart, a corrupt cop working for Grissom. Commissioner Gordon then interrupts Eckhart's bust and tells the policemen to take Napier alive. Next, Batman appears and takes out Napier's men one by one. Napier kills Lieutenant Eckhart just before he can escape, but then gets into it with

Batman, who blocks a bullet Napier fires at him with his glove. The bullet ricochets and rips through Napier's face, and though Batman tries to rescue him, Napier falls into a vat of chemicals and is dumped into the river. Which is a real bummer. But Batman, it didn't seem like he was trying that hard to save him. No, no. So when I showed this movie to my children, with the preface of like, this is a very important movie to dad,

so be gentle. The quote of the night was from my younger daughter, who was six at the time. And she said, you know what I like about batman he has no rush and i thought that that was the most astute observation of this batman in particular because to your point he's not he's not moving with speed or whatever you know but he is very elusive but he is he is a very straight posture yeah very very you know very keeping that cape close to his body. He's just, he's got no rush.

So I think, like, I want to say that it was a totally creative choice, but I do think the limited mobility really informed the way that Batman moves through the shadows. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. Tough to move in that little rubber suit. I wonder if that affected the tone because it's like he's so stoic. Like if he was doing more goofy little moves.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be a little more distracting. Yeah. Not to get too far ahead of it, but like you'll work your way up to the Batman, which is the most recent Batman movie. And like he's as mobile as all get out. He's just basically got elbow pads and knee pads. But my problem with that movie is like one of the opening lines is they think i'm in the shadows but i am the shadow and for the rest of

the movie he just knocks on the front door of every building he walks into and it's like well it's not as sneaky and as cool as keaton's batman who appears and reappears yeah because he has no rush can't knock on the door yeah you can't just knock on the door and say, hey, I'm a bat. Batman should knock on a door, unless it's Batman 66. So the following night, Bruce and Vicky have dinner in his mansion. This is wild. The night starts out a little formal and awkward. Then the two move downstairs to have dinner with Alfred to get to know each other

and eventually spend the night together. So they're having soup across the longest table. The longest table. And Batman doesn't seem to think this is weird. No. Well, it's not Batman. It's Bruce Wayne. I mean, Bruce doesn't think it's weird.

And at that point, I was like, is Bruce maybe? And this is not a knock to people on the spectrum. I'm spectrum-y. Is he on the spectrum? He did not take any any like there was no there was no weirdness to him at all that she was so far away it was a date it's clearly not getting romantic at that level and they're eating soup which i just think is kind of a weird choice but that's we don't that it feels like an appetizer it feels like a like an

amuse-bouche of sorts yeah yeah yeah i don't know that that's the full meal, but he does say, she's like, do you like this new room? And he goes, yeah. And he's like, I don't think I've ever been in here. And then later she says, this house, it doesn't feel like you. And he says, some of it is very much me. And he's alluding,

because who he is, he is Batman. And Bruce Wayne is the facade. Yeah, okay. I liked when they moved and they were sitting in the... Okay. I liked what you said. I was like, yeah.

That is nice. I was like, you really thought about this movie. A gentle surrender is very appreciated. No, honestly, that's most of what this podcast is. Yeah, just us going, oh, okay.

I'm happy for you. I'm happy it makes you happy. No, I like that. But I liked when they moved into Alfred's quarters and they had their soup at his little table. It was cute. And then I was like, yeah, Alfred is more of family than a butler.

And it's helpful to have a third wheel on a first date to kind of like have casual conversation. Yeah. I always like to invite a friend on my dates i like to invite the oldest friend i have so napier in the meantime is not dead but horribly disfigured by the chemicals he's fallen into leaving him with chalk white skin bright hair, and a permanent red grin. I loved the grin, personally. Yes. It was cool.

The transformation has driven him completely insane. Calling himself the Joker, he kills Grissom and takes over his criminal empire. His first scheme is to spread terror in the city by creating hygiene products laced with a deadly chemical

known as Smilex that kills its victims by hysterical laughter. Following the death of a news anchor on air the city becomes paralyzed with fear i like that scene that was pretty funny but also scary i was like imagine being there and like being like oh my friend's having a good time telling the news they're like oh shit she's dead and the way when they're dead they have the smile

yeah i like that the newscaster lady like laughing in the middle of the broadcast. You don't really know what's going on. So great. Yeah, I know. So great. And I also thought that was very creepy that they don't know how the thing is getting to everyone. How this Smilax is transmitted. I gotta say, it is a very good villain move. Yeah.

It was very sneaky. Yeah. And I thought that was a very fun cameo type role to have as an actor, to be the person who just gets killed by the Joker. He just giggled. I could have done that. I could do that. Next, the Joker then sets up a trap at the Fluegelen

Museum for Vicky. Nailed it. I shouldn't have said nailed it to you. I'm sorry. It's okay. It's part of his eye guise. I don't mind it at all. Okay, keep it. Cross promotion. I'll keep it.

So with whom he's become smitten, while his gang destroys all the art around them, the Joker then tries to disfigure Vicky by spraying her with acid, which is so rude, but Vicky douses him with water, and I don't think that's a thing to fight acid, but I'm not a scientist. Yeah. Just then

Batman crashes through the museum ceiling grabs Vicky and escapes with her. Then he gives her the secret of the Joker's chemical combinations and asks her to take it to the press. The Joker even more furious with Batman vows to eliminate the mysterious vigilante for interfering with his plans. I mean

this scene was scary to me where she doesn't know what's going on then he shows up i mean i and um and the sort of fear of like her face getting ruined yeah i just didn't want to also his look when she throws the water and the pancake makeup's melting down it's like terrifying i thought it was really genius when he paints over it with like skin tone and I thought it was wiped off but it was like that was actually the part

that wipes off and it's like the white. It was very clever. It was clever. When he was in the skin tone color I was like did we paint him slightly too dark? Danger. The prosthetics are also much creepier when he is his skin tone a flesh tone yeah yeah i didn't like that but yeah later upon alfred's insistence bruce goes to vicky's apartment to confess his secret identity as batman now why is he jumping into this before he can do that the

joker interrupts them barging in and admonishing Vicky for taking off with Batman. When the Joker spots Bruce in the apartment, he taunts him, asking, have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? And then shoots him. The Joker takes off, but when Vicky rushes to Bruce's side, she finds he's gone, leaving only the silver platter that he had used

to block the Joker's bullet. Tricky, tricky. How did that happen? Very tricky. And I feel like I'm just amazed by what he can he can withstand.

Yes. Also, I'm amazed by the fact that there is part of his face exposed. And I'm wondering if the head thing is bulletproof. I think any part that's made out of the suit

has got some sort of bullet repellent aspect. But for sure, Jaws is a weak spot. Mouth, jaws for sure, Jaws, Jaws a weak spot. Mouth, Jaws, Jaws. Jaws weak. That's Batman's weakness. That's Batman's weakness.

Everybody knows that. Kryptonite for Superman, mouth shots for Batman. The mayor of Gotham City comes on TV to regretfully report that Gotham City's 200th anniversary celebration has been postponed indefinitely. Just then, the Joker pirates the airwaves, telling viewers that he will personally oversee the celebration and give away $20 million in cash, which is crazy.

Who has that in cash? Yeah, that's wild. Like, any person would advise you to put something in stocks. Plus, he promises a confrontation with the real menace of Gotham City, Batman. Meanwhile, Knox tells Vicky about Bruce Wayne's parents, who were mugged and murdered right in front of him as a boy. He shows her a photo of Bruce as a child at the scene, and Vicky recognizes Bruce as Batman by the look on his face in the photo. Wild. She leaves to confront him at Wayne Manor.

Wild. I've never looked at a child and been like, I know the adult that you grew up into. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really... Especially you just met this guy. Yes. It's like if I saw a picture of you,

I might be like, yeah, that's Kai and Nicole. But we know each other. We didn't just meet. Yeah. And if I saw you in a newspaper, I wouldn't assume it is you. That's not...

She's not clocking that he's Batman, but she just sees the young child who's suffered trauma and that's why she followed into that mysterious alley and now that makes sense but i don't think that's where she's like oh this is the vigilante guy no but she thinks it's bruce wayne she's like that's him yeah or you're saying oh wait but she's looking through the microfiche because it's it's from a it's from a news report it's a very famous okay so okay so thomas and martha we're dumb no we're really great we're smart okay bruce watches the joker's tv appearance while looking through the files of his parents murder which is which is, I don't know, kind of funny, as he replays the events of that night

in his mind, he remembers that one of the gunmen repeated the Joker's line, have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? And he realizes that one of his parents' murderers was a young Jack Napier slash Joker. He's so engrossed in thought that he doesn't notice that Alfred

has brought Vicky into the Batcave, revealing Batman's identity as Bruce Wayne. They talk about what his job as Batman means for their relationship, but then Bruce tells her that the Joker is still out there, so he's gotta clock in, he's gotta go to work. He has to go to work. I feel like if two evil

people said to me, have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight, I would connect the dots so fast. Yes. I just feel like i agree there's a gun pointed at me twice yeah i'm looking for similarities yes so the parade that the joker promised is underway in gotham city this was a fun scene i like this but it isn't long before mayhem ensues as canisters attached to the balloon start to release poisonous gas in the crowd so this was now, no, was Prince the music? Was that what it was?

Yes. This was so. Did you not? I mean, he did a whole album. Okay. Yes. Right,

right, right. And I, I know a little bit about this, but I don't really know a lot about that. He did a full concept album about Batman. Like he wrote like the music and the museum is Prince. The museum,

the parade is Prince. And there was a very famous video, the bat dance what they kind of samples uh uh audio files from the film and speaking of choreography very elaborate choreography and prince half of him is is himself and half is joker he's sort of split down the middle i have because he was no i've never seen that. Oh, it's worth, it's very worth a watch. That sounds amazing. Wow. Very, very worth a watch. Well, this was like the most 80s thing that could happen

is like the hip hop sort of like float coming through with the Prince music. I liked it. It was really fun. Yeah, a lot of ghetto blasters, a lot of boom boxes on the shoulders. Yeah, and the puffy pants. Yes.

Yeah. And his Batplane, I do love bat plane bat car bat mobile like it's all very fun to me great branding solid branding

yeah just put bat in front of it just bat you got it bat shoes Batman swoops down and grabs all of the parade balloons

and this was funny because the Joker was like my balloons not my balloons carrying them out towards the ocean to release them where they won't do any harm. Except for to the animals. Yeah, to the dolphins and the whales and the fish.

We didn't know that then. No. No, now we do. Furious, the Joker shoots one of his goons and sends the rest away to scare the crowd while he deals with Batman himself. The Batplane swoops down towards the remaining parade floats, shooting them and destroying them. But the Joker manages to shoot a hole in the Batplane and the aircraft crashes,

landing in front of a cathedral. He doesn't just shoot one of his goons. He shoots Bob the Goon, which is very important because Bob the Goon had his own action figure and was the only figure that actually looked almost identical to the character in the movie. the actor who plays bob the goon plays cookie the chef and city slickers also a film with jack palance i don't know if you guys are considering i feel you do arliss barbie

and then newcomer city slickers because that's another franchise i've never seen it no this is really we've got a lot ahead of us. Truly. Anything can happen from this point forward. We've only seen two movies. So as Vicky makes her way toward the wreckage, the Joker intercepts her, taking her at gunpoint to the top of the cathedral tower. Batman, wounded but still alive, follows the Joker and Vicky up to the top of the cathedral.

When Vicky spots Batman approaching, she seduces the Joker long enough to distract him. Now, we think she's about to give him a blowjob. This is wild. She's like, I like purple. That was shocking this time, for sure. It's pretty shocking. In this rewatch, the two things that stood out to me, I was like, oh, I never really clocked that,

was Robert Wool's joke about King of the Wicker People. I don't think that ever landed for me before. It's just because the costume looks like it's made out of wicker. And I was like, what is wicker? Oh, he means like the furniture stuff. I didn't really connect that before. And then, yeah, her sliding down and Jax and Joker's face was like, oh, whoa. Yeah, this went over seven-year-old Darren's head for sure.

And kind of didn't clock it. I've seen it a bunch of times since. But that was, yeah, that would not fly these days, I feel, in a family-targeted audience film. Because also at this point, we don't really see what her plan is. No. Yeah. And so you kind of think it's, like, she's, you think she's got a plan, but it's like

She's anything to survive. Yeah. Any old thing. Which, honestly, this would be pretty tough to complete. I don't think I would like it. Oh, no. Wait, doesn't the Joker disfigure his girlfriend? Yeah, that happens in the...

He shows her in the restaurant. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Or the museum. Yeah, yeah. That was scary. It was. Yeah. So Batman greets the Joker with the same line,

have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight, and throws his first punch. The two fight. The brawl ends with the Joker ducking out of the way, sending Batman and Vicky tumbling over a ledge. That worried me. But a helicopter arrives as we get away from the Joker. He grabs on and starts to escape.

Just then, Batman fires a cable at the Joker's leg, wrapping the other end around a gargoyle. The statue breaks off and pulls the Joker down, making him lose his grip and fall to his death. That was good. Yeah. As Batman and Vicky try to pull themselves back up, the ledge breaks away

and they start to fall. Batman quickly fires a cable hook up toward the tower while grabbing Vicky with the other arm. The hook catches and the two are suspended midair, safe. At a press conference, Harvey Dent reads a letter from Batman saying that Gotham has earned its rest from a wave of crime, but if evil should ever arise again, they should call him. Then Knox asks how Commissioner Gordon answers that they'll use a bat signal and shines a spotlight with a bat signal into the sky. Vicky leaves Knox behind to continue her investigation instead of getting into a limo with Alfred

and sets off for Bruce Manor. And as they drive off, we can see Batman standing on top of a building. Yeah, it's Wayne Manor. Bruce Manor! I'm just reading what the good people of the Batman wiki have written. Bruce Manner, I think, is a patter writer for the Oscars. Bruce Manner. Bruce Manner.

As they drive off, we can see Batman standing on top of a building in front of the Bat Signal in the night sky. And that's our movie. That's it. And thus a perfect film ends. It is perfect. And thus a perfect film ends. It is perfect. There was that moment that we didn't talk about when he's about to carry Vicky out of the way.

He's like, how much do you weigh? 108. And then he goes like, a little more than 108. Yes. Yeah, brutal. Why are you asking? Why are you saying it's wrong? Body shape.

Why is the weight so low? Yes. I mean, it can't be true. And then also, like, he's, you could, you can look at her and know if you can lift her. Okay? Like, it's just like,

what are we doing here? Yeah. He's not doing physics for every, like, grappling hook he's shooting up into the Art Deco architecture of Chicago Gotham. He's like 108 plus 1,000

plus 2,000. Just fly, Batman. Just fly. Just lift her up. The one case Batman could never solve was his love interest's body mass index. He's obsessed. But does he just not save fatties?

Like, what if I was like, Batman, help! He was like, sorry, fatty. You're on your own. My cord can only hold 108. Okay. All right, well, I guess I'll just be here and get robbed. It's pretty fucked up. Batman's the worst.

I've changed my mind. Thank you, Taryn. Yeah. So Batman grossed $40.49 million during its opening weekend and became the fastest film to earn $100 million, reaching it in 11 days, 10 days plus late-night previews. Despite the film's box office over $400 million against a budget of no more than $48 million,

Warner Brothers claimed it'd end up losing $35.8 million and not likely to ever show a profit, which has been attributed to a case of Hollywood accounting. What? What does that mean? Yeah. This is why we strike. Yeah.

Oh, this is why we're on strike, because they lied about Batman. It's bullshit. Fuzzy math. Fuzzy math. We made $400 million, but we lost $35 million. So we're in debt. What?

Also, the merchandising on this must have been just absolutely insane. I mean, I have action figures, clothing, McDonald's toys, cups, Burger King cups with like, I mean, it was everything. And then you're also saying the thing about Jack Nicholson making so much money off of it. So it's just like long term. We know that's bullshit. Yeah.

Yeah. Wild. It currently holds a 76 percent rating on Rotten Tomatoes. At the time of the film's release, audiences hated Michael Keaton's casting as Batman. The movie was fresh off the heels of the release of Beetlejuice, so some saw him more as the Joker. The backlash was so severe that Warner Brothers received over

50,000 letters complaining about the cast. So, is that just tweets now? That's tweets now, because who's writing a letter? Sealing it up? Getting some stamps? And who's opening it? I feel like they don't care if someone sent a negative letter. Maybe the accountant who was supposed to track that $38 million was busy reading all the hate mail.

He's like, we're losing money. No more money. That's so dumb. 50,000 letters complaining about Michael Keaton. That's pretty fucking funny. Seems like a lot. Yeah. There's a clip of Keaton. That's pretty fucking funny. Seems like a lot. Yeah. He does, he does, there's a clip of Keaton,

he wins like the People's Choice Award or whatever, like for Best Actor and he says, he says in his acceptance speech, like, keep writing those letters.

Aww. Like kind of a, kind of an F you. He has a good sense of humor. I love a sassy man with a jerry curl. He, he hosted SNL

when I was on the show and it was the week of my birthday too wow and me and bobby moynihan got to write the monologue that we wrote a sketch and they're like this is good it should be we'll make it the monologue and so bobby and i got i play i got to dress up i had i had the best department heads in the world dress me up as Jack Nicholson's Joker. Wow. And then Bobby was Danny DeVito's penguin. We're looking at a picture. Which you'll see for the next one. Oh, my God.

It was an exceptional, exceptional week. It was a very fun week. We also, Bobby dressed up as Otho, and I dressed up as Catherine O'Hara from Beetlejuice. And we did, like, a little scene from that, too. It was one of the most fun weeks just because it was that like I was a child and you were a hero and now you're here and like dreams do come true

that's amazing a couple months ago I was out to dinner for my wife's birthday and Michael Keaton walks into the restaurant and like is he looking good did he look he looks oh god he looks so good he's so good okay god it's salt and pepper never never tasted so so delicious

and he and he's like kind of putting eyes over the table and i got so in my head i was like this is my like one of my childhood heroes and he's here and i worked with him i could say hi right yeah my poor wife who's at her birthday dinner is like darren let's finish the meal as you're walking out if he makes eye contact go over and say hi and i was like yeah yeah that's the plan that's you're the best wife that's so smart and we walk out and i kind of like i'm kind of side eyeing his table all the time and he looks up and so i make a b line and i go hey michael hey it's taron we did snl together he's Taryn. We did SNL together. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah. How are you, man?

And I was like, I come in and he's like, yeah, we love this place. You live in the area? I said, oh, yeah, we're just kind of down the street. We're a couple of blocks away. He's like, yeah, yeah, we're workless by two. We're here all the time. And I was like, yeah, we love it. It's our neighborhood restaurant.

Like, OK, great, great, great. Well, hey, if you see me here again in the future, feel free to just leave me alone. I'm only really going gonna slide off the couch that was my immediate feeling i was like i have to leave i gotta get out of here i'm like obsessed but also it was dead inside feel free to leave me alone leave me alone and we all laughed and i said that was my instinct yeah that was my instinct have Have a great day. Have a great day. Enjoy dessert. And it was so funny. It was the perfect.

That's so funny. Well, because also, like, you might then start to run into him a lot. And it's kind of like, it's a funny joke, but it's also like, you'll see me again here. If you come here a lot, let's not do this again. Exactly. It's cool. Another great bit, inversely, was Jeff Goldblum, who I like just was at a premiere and I introduced myself.

I was like, such a huge fan. I love you. He's like, yes, yes. Good, good, who I like just was at a premiere and I introduced myself. I was like such a huge fan. I love you. He's like, yes, yes, good, good, good. Hey, well, well, please keep in touch. I don't want to disturb you anymore. I just want to say thank you for your work. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, my God.

He's really nice. I met him once and I was in Jurassic World. I didn't say that to him because I just was like you might not have seen it I don't care I don't know but he was so warm and gave me a big hug and took a picture and was hugging me in the picture and I was like this is a great picture that's nice I think he really loves people I was in New York

he was in the Pillow Man I think on Broadway at the time and I was in Times Square or not like by the theater district and I like rounded a corner and he was rounding a corner, and we, like, almost bumped into each other, and I just screamed, hug me like you love me. And he went, okay.

And he did. And then we just went about our day. I love that story. It was wild. That's so cute. He's great. That's a great thing to say. He's never been in a Batman movie.

He should be in a Batman movie. Oh, my God, yes. That would be fun. He'd be a great villain. He should be in a Batman movie. Oh my God. That would be fun. He'd be a great villain. He would be a great villain. Yes. He could do a maniacal laugh. Yes.

Yeah. Oh man. All right. Well, let's. Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha. Let's get into our trivia segment.

No way. So this, you did touch on this. So Robin Williams was offered the role of Joker when Jack Nicholson hesitated. He'd even accepted the role when

producers approached Nicholson again and told him Williams would take the part if he did not. Nicholson took the role and Williams was released. Now that is so fucked up.

Williams resented being used as bait and not only refused to play Riddler in Batman Forever but also refused to be involved in any Warner Brothers

productions until the studio apologized. And that is star power. That's amazing. I mean, to have the role, to have it and have it taken away. Yeah, that sucks. That actually really. And he would have been amazing. He would have been so good.

That's so crazy. Boy, oh boy. What a mean business. Very mean. Michael Keaton was worried that Batman's secret identity would, in reality, what? Oh, in reality would be fairly easy to uncover. Would Robert Wool. Robert Wool did what?

Robert Wool at Bruce Manor? And discussed ideas with Tim Burton to better disguise the character, including using contact lenses. In the end, Keaton decided to perform Batman's voice at a lower register than Bruce Wayne's, a technique which has since become a key part of future portrayals of Batman in film, television, and video games. Wow.

Context is kind of a good idea, though, because it's enough to throw you off. But who's stopping to put... I guess he does have to put the whole outfit on, so what's a couple other seconds? But then sometimes they get messed up and you have to do it again. It's like he's really wasting time.

Tim Burton makes a cameo as one of the Joker's goons in the museum scene. I didn't catch that. I don't know Mr. Burton at all. Honestly, I've seen him, but I don't know that I would really recognize his face.

Can we pull up a picture? Yeah. What does Mr. Burton look like? And why am I calling him Mr. Burton? He's got sunglasses on. He's got, I think he's wearing like a hat, like a ber beret or something like it's like a beret backwards um yeah but he because he went he went to cal arts he was an artist first he was an animator

for disney and he like worked on it he worked on the black cauldron and oliver and company like he was a visual artist like literally, literally drawing the cells. And then wanted to be a filmmaker and did a couple of shorts. And then Paul Rubens, he, I forget how, they met through the Groundlings, I think. And then got him to direct Pee-Wee and the rest of the system. Interesting. It makes, his movies now make sense to me that he started in animation. Yeah. Because it seems like he's bringing animation to life.

He has a very visual animation. Yeah. It seems like he's bringing animation to life. He has a very visual aesthetic. At the time of its release, comic book fans reacted negatively to the Joker murdering Bruce's parents. In the comics, Joe Chill is responsible. Who's Joe fucking Chill? Is it Joe Cool's brother? Who's Joe Cool? One Snoopy's cool. Is it Joe Cool's brother?

Who's Joe Cool? When Snoopy's cool? If it was another Snoopy, I'd be really happy. But who is Joe Chill? I don't know. Taryn, do you know? Joe Chill, yeah. He appears in later films.

You will experience a Joe Chill in Batman Beman begins a cinematic joe chill okay um but they did not like uh them crossing over and because i saw this when i was so young i always thought it was like canon that joker was the one but but having now gone back interesting but uh yeah joe chill like thomas wayne bruce's dad is this big billionaire magnet sort of thing and a doctor as well. And Joe Chill mugs them, was like down on his luck because Gotham is sort of like Chicago. There's New York elements, too, but it's always been more Chicago. Metropolis has always been a little more New York. OK, didn't know that. And they left a movie singing The Mask of zorro bruce and his and his parents and joe chill

mugs them and then panics and and kills both of his parents in front of him damn well well writer sam ham which he can the segue of trauma of parent murder into saying sam Hamm. Well, Sam Hamm said it was Burton's idea to have the Joker murder Wayne's parents. He said the writer's strike was going on and Tim had the other writers do that. I will also hold innocent to Alfred letting Vicki Vale into the Batcave. Fans were ticked off with that and I agree. That would have been Alfred's last day of employment at Wayne Manor. Yeah.

But so the other writers were on strike, or he was on strike, but other writers still wrote? I'm like, what is this? Someone scabbed. Wow. They had to dance. They had to dance. They had to dance.

They had to dance. They just had to. Okay, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be back with more Batman after this. We're back. Holy Batman, Batman. In this new segment, we'll rate Michael Keaton

on the definitive newcomer's Batman scale. We'll use our phones to rank this Batman across five unique characteristics. Preparedness. How prepared is this Batman? Does he get to use his little gadgets and tools? Detective ability. Does this Batman get to be a little detective? Is he good at mystery solving? Voice graveliness. How gravelly is this Batman? Does he get to use his little gadgets and tools? Detective ability? Does this Batman get to be a little detective? Is he good

at mystery solving? Voice gravelliness? How gravelly is this Batman's voice? Sadness? How lonely, brooding, emo is this Batman? And finally, hotness, horniness. How hot and how horny is this Batman? I love it. Can I borrow your QR code? Yeah. Because mine is far away.

Thank you. Okay. All right. Batman is far away. Thank you. Okay. All right. I'm working on my hotness horniness scale. Yeah, that one takes a minute. I'm really just trying to tap back into that feeling of seven-year-old. Oh, everything jumped.

I love it. Okay, great. So let's see how we rated this Batman. We gave this Batman an 85.7% preparedness. I mean, yeah, I feel like he was pretty prepared. But it wasn't exactly. I almost feel like the previous one from the 60s, he had like every single thing ever. He had such a lot of repellent. Yeah, so it's kind of changing how I see him in terms of his preparedness.

Detective ability, he got an 81%. I felt like when he didn't immediately piece together that Joker killed his parents, I thought, you're not a great detective. But there was like some good chemistry detecting, right? Where he's like buying all the products and he's sampling them. That was amazing. And then swooping up the balloons he's balloon swooping like a true detective my balloons he was really stole my balloons

uh voice gravelling is 71.3 percent yeah i mean it was gravelly but it wasn't it's almost like not even the parody we have now of it being gravelly yes so i'm seeing it as less gravelly yeah i i went pretty low on this because I would say it was husky, more of a husk, like a whispered husk more than a gravel where like Christian Bale,

as you will see, like goes full on like, Oh, yeah. This is more, I want you to do my friends about me. You got Christian Bale coming up. You got Hot Kilmer. Val Kilmer looks hot, but is watching paint dry a little bit.

Oh, God. You got Batman Returns, which is more, but a very different movie. It's a very, very different movie. And then you've got Kilmer, and then George Clooney, who's, you know, he got a good paycheck. But then Christian Bale does a very, very good job. But Keaton is still my number one. He's my number one.

Always will be. He's the best. Other than Kevin Conroy, are you doing animated series? Yes, we are. Yeah. We are going to at least do one, I think. Yes. There's the movie.

There's the Mask of the Phantasm, which is pretty decent. We're doing that. What are your thoughts on it? Because I do love a cartoon. Love Batman the Animated Series. Great. It was one of the first animated shows to do their art on black cells. So they added the color, right?

Because normally it's like translucent or a white page. Yeah. But they would start on a black page and then add in color because the shadows and the oh that's actually really cool version of it that's interesting i've only seen like white and like or the clear cells yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no it's beautiful and they use danny elfman's score for the theme song too which is which is awesome oh cool all right well yeah we'll see we'll see i don't know i love a cartoon we're open-minded yeah okay um We'll see. We'll see.

I don't know. I love a cartoon. We're open-minded. Yeah. Okay. I can't. Okay. All right.

Whatever you say. Sadness, 74.7. He seems pretty sad. I thought he was like sad-ish. I guess it was sad when he was like, I haven't been in many rooms in my own home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just take a tour.

Alfred could show you the rooms. You should eat in a different room every night. home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just take a tour. Alfred could show you the rooms. You should eat in a different room every night. Yeah. Yeah. His turtleneck moment in the alley too, you know what I mean? He really got mumbled up and laying the roses down on the street like that. So yeah, that was sad.

He was sad. It's sad. Okay, hotness and horniness, 78.3%. Who gave him that low one? I'm thinking it's Taryn. Taryn. I went pretty low on the horniness. Yeah. There's not, you don't, I think

the only time you get like a real shirtless like rip thing is him upside down doing the sit-ups like a bat in the middle of the night. Yeah. If memory serves. Yes. Not a lot of skin. No. No. I'm sort of just generally attracted to the character at this point. Same. so I'm like I'm gonna go with

that's pretty hot yeah he's I don't know like maybe it was the age I first saw but like there's like a dad energy to this Batman like it's a little bit like looking out I'll take care of you here we should open more bottles of champagne like hosting a party

kind of thing yeah yeah yeah sorry sorry I went so low no you don't have we should open more bottles of champagne, like hosting a party kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. I went so low. No,

you don't have to do anything you don't want to do. It's your opinion. But hotness, horniness, I don't know, like the suit, the black rubber suit, like,

you know, again, you're about to see one of the most, I think like beautiful performances physically and emotionally in Batman Returns with Michelle Pfeiffer, who's phenomenal. And do yourself a favor before you see the movie or just after you see the movie, watch how she worked the whip. There's a scene in the department store.

She uses a whip. That's the only spoiler part. But you can watch online the take. She did it in one take and she's actually doing all the whipping. I actually have seen that clip out of context and it is amazing. It's very impressive. It's mind blowing. So it'll be cool to see that in context and see what is happening

and why she's doing that. Why would she ever? A whip? It's time for our segment Five Kapows where we read reviews from our own listeners because we value how you guys praise us. Yes. This is a five-star review from Girly Grace.

I know so much more about wigs. I love listening to you guys chat about stuff you're not into. In the words of Nicole, I teeheehee the whole time. Also, I now know what makes a good wig. We haven't seen any wigs yet. Like we've been in previous movies. We've been obsessed with bad wigs. The all of Marvel.

Most of the Thor. All the women. Most of the women made the wig department angry. And they said no good wigs for anybody, especially Scarlett Johansson. Like she really did someone dirty, and they hate her. All vinyl for her. But you're right. All of the wigs in Thor are terrible.

It's a little, yeah. Yeah. Hopefully we'll get some bad wigs coming up, because that's always fun. I do love a bad wig. Yeah. So, okay. In addition to Apple reviews, we're also reading reviews from Letterboxd. Also, we're going to give each film a one sentence review ourselves and a star rating.

And if you don't know what Letterboxd is, I'll tell you. It's a social platform where people can write reviews of films. You can follow the show on Letterboxd at Newcomers. Are you on Letterboxd, Taryn? I started a Letterboxd and I think the reason I went on was because I saw Coco and I needed people to know how much I loved Coco. I love Coco. It's such a good movie. My daughter loves it and

I've now seen it like 10 times. I love it too but I immediately thought of Coco Montrese from RuPaul's Drag Race. And I was like, you saw a drag queen and went on letterboxd? And then I was like you're out of your mind Nicole. The movie Coco. None of that adds up. God.

No, I would have gone on for Simone. We were team Simone hardcore. Okay, so here's a Letterboxd review. And Taryn, we are going to ask for your one sentence review of this film. Okay. Three stars from Adam Bolt trying to work out the tactical advantage of making a suit with a neck that can't move. Good point. This is from

Liam F. Imagine my disappointment to discover that Danny Elfman who wrote the musical score for the movie is actually 5'10 and not the size of an elf. So that's your problem with the film? Interesting. Look, it can be anything and that's what's fun about it. And that was a four star review. So what's your problem with the film? Interesting. Look, it can be anything, and that's what's fun about it. And that was a four-star review.

So what's a one-sentence review you would give this film, Nicole? I think I'm going to give it three stars. This bat is not a man for me. Okay. Oh, my God. I'm going to give it four stars. Okay. I think, so my review is Tim Burton's fantastic.

I love the characters. Joker's wild. I hate my review. It's good. No, Lauren, that was good. Lauren, that was so good. Okay, fine. Taryn.

Keep it. Okay. Okay. that was so good okay fine Taryn keep it okay um okay uh finally the dark and gritty dark night we've wanted to see

at the cinema without the expense of losing the fantastical fun asterisk this movie taught me how to dream oh

five stars wow wow oh wow I loved that review it's better than mine and I love it can I throw in Joker's Wild though me too Joker's Wild

okay perfect so everyone out there please write a review of our show on Apple Podcast because we really need you to and we'll be picking one to read on the next episode and also read us on Spotify. You can just go give us five stars. Yeah, we want that.

Taryn, do you have anything you want to plug? It's easy. Just click. Just click. Hey, just click, would ya? I want to plug this podcast. I've been a fan of both of yours

for so long. We've never gotten to do anything ever, but Nailed It is by far the most watched tv show in my we we will nice we will repeat watch what we call grandma pirate donut episode because nothing that one was so funny nothing makes us laugh so hard and lauren i've been a fan of yours for so so long and yours and ben's yours and ben's early show like still one of the best things on the internet in in my opinion uh honored to be here thank you so much

for being here um we appreciate you so much and we appreciate your your loving perspective on this film because it really helped us love it more it made me maybe want to watch it again that's maybe crazy but okay i mean maybe you don't know do it i'll just re-watch the music you guys i will say you guys never really and i know that's also another point of the podcast but you never tap into the music and i would just give a gentle if you do watch it again danny elfman score to this film truly iconic truly i yeah i don't feel like I talk about music but I like the music it gives a sort of fantastical

feeling if you're looking for new segments moving forward some little like what did the score score I like that I like that that's really good thank you for that

please welcome our Taryn Killam suggested segment, What are the scores for? Yes, you have to get credit every time. Every time we say it. And reach out to her. She's going to see if score bars

will endorse that segment. Get you a little extra cash. These are all really good ideas. A little extra cash. I like it. Associate producer T Tara Killough. I love it. You're going to get credits.

We'll be back next week with the sequel to this movie, Batman Returns. I can't wait for Batman to return. We'll see you then. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Newcomers is a production of HeadGum Studios. Our producer is Ali Khan. Our executive producer is Anya Kanivskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and mastered by Ferris Monchi,

who also composed our theme song. Follow us on Letterboxd at Newcomers and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. We might just read it on the next show. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-bye. That was a Hiddem Original.