Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Captain America: The Winter Soldier (w/ Ify Nwadiwe)

Episode Date: April 12, 2022

Well well well, leave it to our good friend/fossil Captain America to put a pep in Lauren & Nicole's step! Him and *checks notes* Robert Redford. Friend of the show and "horny & comics" expert Ify Nwadiwe (Grand Crew, Comedy Bang Bang!, Key and Peele) returns to discuss Captain America: The Winter Soldier and share his expert opinion on nail care in adult films and the pros/cons of steroid use. Ify, so helpful. Next week's movie: Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Most of the intelligence community doesn't believe he exists. The ones that do call him the Winter Soldier. He's a ghost. You'll never find him. I joined S.H.I.E.L.D. to protect people. You have to build a better world. Sometimes it means tearing the old one down.

That makes enemies. He's fast. And strong. Out of metal arm. Are you ready? All it takes is one step. People are gonna die. I can't let that happen.

Captain America needs my help. When do we start? We just did. The price of freedom is high. And it's a price I'm willing to pay. You told me not to trust anyone. This is how it ends. Everything goes. Looks like you're giving the orders now, Captain.

Damn right. How do we know the good guys from the bad guys? If they're shooting at you, they're bad. Субтитры создавал DimaTorzok Okay, wow. I'm Nicole Byer. I'm Nicole Byer. I'm Lauren Lapkus. And this is Newcomers, and we're covering the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This is the sixth episode of the fifth season. We're going to get help from fellow newcomers, super fans,

sometimes people who've contributed to the universe. This is going to be 20 episodes, so we're not covering all of it. And you can tell we've got a pep in our step because today we're discussing the second Captain America film, Captain America, The Winter Soldier. It came out in 2014. It's on Disney+. You can also pay to watch it on Amazon,

Apple TV+, Google Play, and Vudu. We're going to spoil this movie. It came out in 2014, so get with the fucking times shut up we haven't introduced you yet no one knows who you are yet sorry just a voice floating in the ether well i guess we should introduce our guest fine i'm very excited for our guest if he wadaway if he's a comedian actor writer who's appeared on key and peel workaholics comedy bang bang and is currently a writer on grand crew which everyone loves and nicole stars in and according to his own twitter

he has reportedly been dying to be cast in a marvel movie, and we can't wait to find out which one. So welcome back. If you've done the show with us before, we're excited to have you here. You know, I'm happy to be here, happy to be in y'all's presence. As you can tell, really excited to talk nerd stuff. We're in my wheelhouse. You know, the only time I've been this excited was during Why Won't You Date Me? Because it's horny and comics.

That's what I'm known for. Now your boy is back. Yes. I love that. So wait, Ify, have you seen all of the Marvel movies? I assume yes. Oh, yeah. Locked in.

Got them all. Saw them when they came out. OK. All those weird, like, I don't want to call them weird, but all those videos of people getting way too hype in the theater. I was probably in the background of one of them, like, doing a backflip, like, yeah! That's why you can't call them weird, because you literally are one of these people. It is him.

So which Marvel movie do you want to be cast in? Oh, man. I mean, any of the future ones. Someone who doesn't die. I want to get on the Marvel bankroll. I want to be right now with my boy anthony magdaddy i'm one step closer now because he's you know it's been announced that he's going to be in the twisted metal show i'm writing for right now so you know i'm just you know i'm gonna be wait the twist of metal shawm is that what you just said is that what i heard? Wait. Twisted Metal Show.

You remember the video game Twisted Metal? Y'all remember that. We all equally remember Twisted Metal. I sure don't. It's a huge part of our lives. But yeah, he's going to be in it. So whenever I'm on set writing, I will be shirtless, popped off saying, hey, I got a suggestion for you.

I'll be writing to my pecs. I love that. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's really key to be a character that doesn't die. Yes. You could be in these movies forever. But some of these characters, you think they die, and then they don't. Nick Fury, we said bye-bye, and then we said, oh, hey, hey.

I was so confused. I was like, wait a minute. Don't we see him later? How does he die? But that was good, see? Yeah, I did appreciate it. Wait, Ify, do you read the comics too? Do you know like unmovied properties?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I definitely have three long boxes in my storage right now. I stopped collecting because after I had to move with those, I'm like, I'm done buying these comics. And then people were like, we're going to go digital. And then comiXology is under fire right now. It's on fire. They're moving it. And now it's not as readable. It's a whole mess. Yeah. Wait, no. My husband, Mike, has some sort of subscription to Comixology that I somehow get emails about. What is that? So Comixology was this subscription service

where you're able to read through comics digitally but then it was then bought out by amazon and comiXology had their own kind of comic reader viewer and different and it was very accessible and now that it's going to be on amazon it has none of that accessibility when there's splash pages splash pages is when there's like two pages don't mansplain a splash page to me i have no idea what it is i have no idea continue explaining it makes it super hard to see things like that so yeah it's it's it's you know they gotta figure something out bezos get on it well he's too busy at the moon yeah he's he's flying pete davidson out there next you know i used to tour with pete and he's he's gone so far you did i didn't know that because he was on guy code and

i was on girl code so we'd be on guy code girl code tours i did not know he was on guy code blossomed really blossomed see that was the same thing with me and old Tim Tim. You know, I was in one short film with him, was texting him regularly. And then before you know it, he got an Oscar nomination and that number changed. Wait, Tim who? Tim Tim? Timothy Chalamet. Oh, you know Timothy Chalamet? Yeah, yeah.

That's what I call him. You know, I got, I feel like I got bumped down to acquaintance. Like before, you know, he just met Naomi. He's come over to my house. We were watching the finals. But then it was like, it was when Call Me By Your Name came out. And I remember I texted him and I was like, congrats. He was like, oh, thanks, dude.

And then a few months later, I text him again, get that green text. I was like, uh-oh. Oh, no. He changed that number. Timothee, Timothee, if you're listening you sound like you sound like nell that's how i say it because that's how it's spelled it makes sense to me um well that's huge i'm i can't he had to change his number i'm sure everyone was coming out of the way he went to acting school you know his shit was like blown up. You know, it is very funny.

Congratulations on that Oscar. If you ever, if you need anything from me, apply for me to do background work for you. Just let me know, you know, hit us up. You know, it was so many like, like so many whack texts from people who hated him. Right. That's funny. So wait, did you like, do you like the Winter Soldier? Oh yeah.

I was, I'm a big fan of the Winter Soldier, especially like Cap and Bucky's relationship. I was real hyped when they went down this, this route. Look, I'm a big fan of a metal arm. We all like a metal arm around here. And so, yeah, I was on board. Winter Soldier was truly like the hype. A lot of people at the time, because a lot of people will, you know, look back and be like, yeah, that was the one. But a lot of people at the time was hating on Winter Soldier.

Oh. Hot take. Liked the Winter Soldier. Oh. I, hot take, liked the Winter Soldier. Yeah, I loved it. It laughed very hard when that man was like in the street and Captain America

was like, Bucky? It's just so funny to call a villain Bucky. It's truly the best one that we've watched for sure. But it gives me hope too

that it's going to get even better, that we're going to enjoy things more and more if people now say that one's not the best. Well, yeah, because the fun thing about it is you're having to go through all this, like, intro stuff, which is why it's been rocky. But now you're off to the races. Like, the pawns have been set.

You're going to start seeing all these movies interact with each other. It's going to be super exciting. Yeah. Which is your favorite one well my favorite of course is going to be black panther which is why no no other than black panther well then i'm gonna cheat and say the winter soldier because this is when the black panther was introduced uh i was i this was the wait black Black Panther's in The Winter Soldier? Well, we don't see the Black Panther. We see when Bucky

assassinates the Wakandan dictator. You see, oh, that's Civil War? Oh, I'm too early. Never mind. This movie sucks. So wait.

Okay, wait. Do you like this movie or no? No, I do like this movie. I like this movie. I just overshot the... Okay, good, good, good, good, movie. I like this movie. I just, uh, overshot, um, the,

okay, good, good, good, good, good. Yeah. Because that was the whole,

okay. Now, now the timeline, are we watching civil war? No, we're watching. No, but I mean,

are we watching that? Yeah. Yeah. You will see. Yes. Spoiler alert. You're going to see the black panther. Well,

that's cool. I didn't know that that was, that character was in previous films. I didn't know that. Me either. previous films. I didn't know that. Me either. And I didn't realize Scarlett Johansson was in all of these dang movies. Me neither. I'm tired of Natasha Romanoff.

What's her name? Romanoff? No. Romanoff? Romanoff? I liked her the most in this one, though, because I liked the sort of, I don't know, present day feeling dynamic where she's like just kiss me pretend

we're kissing on this escalator yeah so you liked it but her makeup artist did not like her her makeup artist said let me throw bronzer wherever I can I will not open my eyes while I do it and then I'm going to send you right on camera and not give you a mirror

I didn't understand it I didn't. And then I'm going to send you right on camera and not give you a mirror. I didn't understand it. I didn't notice that. But I liked her hair in this one better than the curly hair. That wig was not it for me. There was no good part. I was like, who did this? Somebody hated her.

And I was like, there's barely any women in this movie. And I know you had a budget. How come you didn't get someone good who likes Scarlett Johansson? Someone was like I'm gonna make it look like shit the budget went to the skin tight shirts

and trainers you know like by the way like wow uh huh yeah wow I was like are those CGI muscles like what's going on the muscles were out of control they really were this was kind of like a a sexier movie for

me and there i mean there's like only one kiss but i was like he definitely fucked that bitch in the bed that he thought was dead that old lady they fucked and you know they did she curled her hair on her deathbed for this man to come visit i have a lot of thoughts about that fucking old lady because there was a point, first of all, the first second you see her, she like turns her head like she's young. Like she's like looking at the picture

and it's like so easy for her to turn her head even though she's literally about to die and she's 100 years old. And then her hair is so beautiful. And then her face was basically like a face app, like a filter on Instagram. Like it's kind of floating over her mouth sometimes. Like you could see if she like over her mouth sometimes like you could

see if she moved her mouth too much like the old lines were like whoops we can't find where we're supposed to go the director was like stop acting your fucking thing is coming off it's too hard i felt like they i was hoping that there'd be some technology to make her young and so she could get to have a one last hurrah with him or something that would be nice but i do think they had the hurrah in that but i i would never curl my hair for a man if i couldn't get out of bed and life was hard do you know what i'm saying like if i'm trying to look good we're probably fucking she deserved it at that point for sure she's waited she waited a long time yeah when you wait that long you got

to it's rude not to i would i mean i feel like you could have did the ghost thing where she turned young and then like people are like oh man and then she's old when they're laying in bed and you're like oh she was old when that happened but that was the imagination they should have done that oh i would have loved that that would have been so good just so we don't have to experience him having sex with a really old woman who's about to die it's more romantic than everyone has a kink i would have been fine with it i really would have i don't know why well i would have been interested yeah right uh should we do the daily bugle absolutely, the Daily Bugle is our new segment.

We're going to give a recap of what's been going on lately in the MCU. Actor Aaron Pierre of the Underground Railroad and Old was cast in the upcoming... There's a movie just called Old? That's a tough one to have if it was your only thing because it sounds like they're insulting you every time. Uh-huh. That is... I mean, the whole thing is funny. The Underground Railroad, Old. It is Old. that is i mean the whole thing is funny the underground railroad old

it is old i was cast in the upcoming mcu film blade wait that's a that's marvel yeah it's good yeah oh i didn't know that it's starring mahershala ali in the titular role pierre's role has not been disclosed wow Wow. Yeah. Do you care about Blade? Yeah, that's why I was going to come in and rant because a lot of times people often credit like comic movies popularizing after the Spider-Man when it was Blade. It was Blade. Fuck you. It was Blade.

Blade was the first Marvel, like, well, it wasn't a Marvel movie, but it was the first comic book movie that really made people go, these can actually be good. But everyone always gives it to the Spider-Mans because they're racist. Wow. Or Spider-Man, I think, three, where he's jazzy. Maybe that's what really stuck with people.

Yeah. No, I think it's because people often don't know Blade is a Marvel property. It is like a vampire samurai who's a black dude. What? I was like, yeah, no no that was in the comics baby that was that was that was like peak when you look at like early blade you're like this is peak marvel 90s lots of pockets swords for no reason just guns you love it that sounds great are there a lot of other black Marvel characters? See, that's where we're having a problem here. So you see where my mission gets harder is every time someone's get cast, that's one.

It's the clock strokes darker for your boy right here. So I knew I wasn't going to get T'Challa. I was too young, still too young for T'Challa. Blade, technically still. I'm in that weird, like, college age. And there's not that many college age, unless we do aged up Miles Morales, and everyone would be mad at me because I took it. But that's good. That's good, though, because then as you get older, you're going to have more and more opportunities.

I think that's perfect. It doesn't work that way for women, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. they don't want me wait i don't think i could be in a marvel movie there are no fat people with speaking parts in marvel movies that i've seen so far except for the hulk oh the hulk oh my god i'm trying to think and you might be right, Nicole, but you're going to get a text at like 3 a.m. when I find out. Yeah, honestly, let me know if there are any fat people in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Oh, women, fat women. Did you think of a man? Because I feel like there's a round man. All right.

I feel like Marvel experts already. I see the typing fingers. got i got one i got one there's a there's a girl named gertrude yorks in the runaways oh what are the runaways yeah they're like teenagers they're cute teens yeah gertrude she's got a dinosaur friend gertrude. She's got a dinosaur friend. Gertrude what? Yorks. Gertrude Yorks. She's a dinosaur friend. Oh, she looks cool. Yeah.

Which is, which is like the cool kind of like exterior Marvel stuff too, which like, you know, I got my eye on young Avengers. They see what, what, what if you can do. There's a couple, there's plenty in young Avengers. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, you know who I want. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, but you know who I want. Yeah, I know. Hey, Leah, I hate to rain on your parade,

but she just got the big titties and a fat ass. Nah, I'm looking for like chonk, like rolls. That's what I'm looking for. Okay, the second piece of news in the daily bugle the academy award nominations were announced and the four films released by marvel studios in 2021 only uh shang chai is am i saying that right what shang chi shang chi oh god i was so wrong say it again shang chi and the legend of the Ten Rings and Spider-Man No Way Home are among the nominees. Both were nominated for visual effects.

Many also suspect that the two added categories, fan favorite and cheer moment, were an attempt to throw some unofficial love to the MC. There's a cheer moment? There's a cheer moment at the Academy Awards? At the Academy Awards? Yeah, they're trying to. I want an Oscar for cheer moment. I mean, like, I'll take it, but that sounds crazy. Yeah.

Wait, that's, wait, what? Yeah, they added the categories because they're trying to get the Xennials. They want to, they want to, so the Oscars are trying to do. And so that feels like. So in the Oscar for best cheer moment goes to. Yeah, that sounds like an MTV movie award. Yes. Yeah.

But, but it's also like kind of cool to change up the Oscars a little bit because it's been around forever. And it's like, yeah, categories change. We have a totally different model now for movies. And there are good movies that aren't the same as Call Me By Your Name or something. But also a lot of these movies have been nominated in different categories. So it's kind of interesting. I don't feel like we have watched one yet that should get an oscar um but yeah you're right maybe i don't know the visual effects on scarlett johansson pulling off her old lady face were real high tech okay wait i did actually like that and i was like

well because i was like this is actually kind of good for the time like it was like Did you? Well, because I was like, this is actually kind of good for the time. Like, it was, like, kind of cool. Yeah. I just like that old lady fighting. It wasn't like she pulled off an old lady mask. You know what I mean? Oh, I wish that's what it was.

She, like, ripped it open, and she's like, it's me, Scar Jo. Don't worry. I'm hot. Okay. Marvel Studios debuted the first trailer for the upcoming Disney Plus series, Miss Marvel, which will introduce Kamala Khan, a Muslim teen superhero from New Jersey for the first time. And there's a trailer. This is exciting.

Yeah. Wait, Miss Marvel, isn't that, what's her name? That's Captain Marvel. Hmm. They could have come up with some, what? Why Miss Marvel and Captain Marvel? Well, Kam comical story is interesting because she's like a super fan so it kind of touches into that but i believe i'll let

the marvel expert uh land just uh correct me on this but i believe they switched up a little bit of her like fandomness uh in the in the this series because that's been it looks like it yeah yeah um but yeah she's a fan of captain marvel so she models herself off of captain marvel okay so it's deliberate all right and and who is miss marvel played by oh come on right oh no that's just her name the actress's name is Iman Valani she's a little Canadian teenager shout out to Canada

are we going to watch the trailer ooh the weekend oh yeah I just want to say hey that guy's funny oh yeah he's very funny Ooh, The Weeknd. Oh yeah. Okay, so first off, I just want to say, I did it. Hey, that guy's funny. Oh yeah, he's very funny. Jordan...

Kamala. First man. Another adventure shirt. Cute. She thinks I'm some kind of weirdo. You are weirdo. Boys. Excuse me.

I'm sorry, I literally love this. You're kind of on my shit. Sorry. But you're staring out the window in your little fantasy land. Kamala, hey, already? Really? Do I have to figure out my whole future before lunch?

Or is there like... Maybe they're right. I spend too much time in fantasy land. That is not you. This looks so fucking good am i right yeah i'm pretty into it no it slaps i'm all about this fantasy too does something happen here also this remix to this song right what does it feel like cosmic Does something happen to you? Also this remix to this song. Right? What does it feel like? Cosmic.

I got chills. I wanna watch it. I got chills! I got chills! But I never imagined any of this. Do you even know what you are? I'm a superhero. I got chills again. Oh my God.

I'm obsessed. I have to see this. I truly got chills. I love this. I got chills at the same exact time you did when she walked on those magical steps in the sky. Yes, yes. It's so good. Also, the cosmic line, which is like, you know, fodder for us dorks.

Because Marvel is typically split into like three major groups, which is your street level heroes, your Luke Cage and whatever, your global scale, your Avengers and cosmic, which is like space shit. Which is weird, which is why the Eternals were weird no matter what people say. Like, it's supposed to be weird. Cosmic shit is weird, but that's how we're going to get Galactus. We need it. We need the weird shit so we can get the man who's going to eat the plant. This might all be going over your heads,

but trust me, it's going to make sense. Luke Cage. Yeah. You lost us at Nick Cage's son. Are y'all? I know y'all are doing the movies, but I imagine y'all aren't going to watch through all the TV stuff stuff huh uh i think we're watching a little bit of uh what's it called

okay if you get jessica jones you get a flake because her and luke cage day luke cage was a black guy whose superpower was being bulletproof which uh oh which is Yeah. You know, but it was. Yeah. So he's he's really great. He's really like sped up for the times because he used to be like very like Afro. He was power man and he was like sweet Christmas. And he had like it was. But it was cool. It was cool. I'll bring I'll bring the books over to your house.

Nicole. Oh, Mike Coulter was Luke Cage. Yes. Yes. Yes. Looking real snackish. Looking real daddy. You know. Yeah. Oh, Mahershala was Luke Cage. Yes, yes, yes. Looking real snackish. Or is Luke Cage. Looking real daddy, you know. Yeah.

Oh, Mahershala Ali is also in it. He played someone called Cottonmouth. Interesting. And Alfre Woodard is Black Mariah. Is there a white Mariah? That's a funny name for somebody, Black Mariah. But yeah, but I say all this to say, I love Ms miss marvel because also

not only is it just like such a tight exciting show but like i hope i remember how i felt when i saw the black panther trailer because it's like you know it's one thing to have like you know a black superhero but an african superhero as a nigerian american like when i saw all those colors and like the nian inspired, like the blood rushing through my veins and feeling my face get hot out of excitement. I want that for just literally every person of color. So Muslim, I want, I want, I want, you know, let's get America in here so we can get the Latinx stand up. Let's, let's go and get Asian Hulk in here, which that's not his name, but there was aulk and they made him asian and people were mad at first but then he was tight and people loved

him let's get him in like i want everybody i mean i want everybody like let's go through and and every time that's so cool yeah no it's so true because watching that trailer just now i was thinking about how cool that would be for little girls to see that like it's just like it's just amazing i mean yeah it's so special and she looked like a little girl like she looked like just a normal teen and she wasn't made up to the nines and i was like i like that yeah not a cw teen yes part of what we were talking about like as we've been watching these is that like because we're so removed from this i think i at least always forget that they're regular people who have a superpower and then to like see yourself reflected is just so important that's so awesome oh yeah oh i love that i guess marvel's great and we love

marvel now oh shit both of us are like we have chills yeah yeah look when i heard that i was like okay we won y'all over you we're We're only at Winter Soldier and you're locked in. Yeah, I love that. And I loved the Winter Soldier, which I guess we should get into when we come back from our break. Yes. Ooh, we back. Okay, so Christopher Marcus and Stephen McFeely did good, and so did the Russo brothers. They directed it, and then Chris and Stephen, they wrote it.

It was released April 4th, 2014. Should we hop into our summary? Absolutely. So here's the summary. While out on a morning jog in Washington, D.C., Steve meets Sam Wilson, played by Anthony Mackey, an Air Force veteran who works as a military counselor. They bond over their common experiences in adapting to life after each serving tours in the armed forces. Now, did you feel that Anthony Mackey quickly understood that this man had missed many decades of life and needed an update from the 70s about some music or something i was like what yeah did they explain that like they sure didn't he like just kept he was like on your

left on your left and he's like oh i hate that p.s i feel like you better sleep in a minute so uh here's some stuff you should look up and then apple was like we need we need to be on that list and then they mentioned oh then they go to an Apple store later. And I was like, all right, Steve Jobs. I get it. You really want your stuff everywhere. I felt like in the Apple store, they really didn't show the computers. And I thought that was kind of good because it didn't feel dated, really. You couldn't see them.

Yeah, that's true. That is smart. Yeah, they future-proofed it. But yeah, there was no explanation as to how they actually became friends and how he knew he'd been sleeping for so long. I know, and that's not weird to him. I mean, I guess we found out later that it wasn't. I mean, look, if I found a white guy from the 50s that wasn't racist, I'm like, all right, you wanted to go once. I got you.

We put you in ice. He is rather acclimated to now time. He's never like so many Negroes. Like he's like, he's fully fine with everything. I even thought that about the wardrobe that he was just like, yeah, she's wearing a hoodie.

That's not weird. It's like, that is weird. Yeah. Yeah. But that would just take forever for him to be reacting to everything like that, I guess.

but that would just take forever for him to be reacting to everything like that i guess so natasha romanoff arrives to take steve with her on a shield mission to rescue the hostages of a ship called the lemur star which has been taken over by pirates led by batrock george pierre however steve discovers that natasha has an additional secret assignment from nick fury uh to extract shield intelligence from the ship onto a USB drive. That part felt a little dated. Just a USB drive. That and this big cameo from one of the formerly one of the greatest MMA fighters, G.S.P. Oh.

Yeah. Oh. Yeah, G.S.P. was like a big mma guy at the time and when he was in this movie everyone was like yo that's gsp um but now he's he i don't know how close gsp is to any mma right now but yeah he was that dude when this came out so that it was a cameo yeah well, we didn't catch that one. Didn't catch it at all. That's why we have you here.

So back at Triskelion Shield headquarters, Fury introduces Steve to Project Insight, a response to the Battle of New York that consists of three helicarriers connected to satellites that can neutralize enemy hostile targets. I felt like I was kind of surprised by how much i was getting it at this point and i also i i really appreciated how they started in like present day with just like him jogging even though he's jogging really fast it's like that was still like really got me into it i was kind of like this could be any type of movie i might just throw on you know what i mean i liked yeah i like that as well it seemed like they were like okay you just saw the avengers you hated it let's do something nice for you totally uh okay so then he visits the captain america exhibit at the smithsonian which i was like. But anyway, which includes a video tributes to Bucky Barnes and the howling command. I forgot that that was their name as well as interview footage of Peggy with

Peggy Carter. He pays a visit to an elderly Peggy in a retirement home. He also meets with Sam again at a veterans group. Um, this was weird to me. I was like, why is he at the Smithsonian? Why was it to establish that his costume was there and he was going to me i was like why is he at the smithsonian why was it to establish that his uh

costume was there and he was gonna wear that later i thought it was to be like he's a historical figure like he made a big difference and so he's in the museum now also that's the only way he can see his friends from back then because they're dead as hell you know like also if i had a museum exhibit dedicated to me i would definitely be like in the hat. But I would also like take it off every now and then. I was like, yes, yes, me. Would you really? Yeah, yeah.

Like, I don't know why you weren't standing by every Grand Cru bus because that's all I would be doing. Waiting at the bus stop, standing up. Oh, this is my, actually, I got a car. What's up, y'all? It's your boy. I mean, I did take many pictures by the billboards. You gotta. Yeah.

I guess I'd go to the Smithsonian if I was in it. Totally. I like that part where he's kind of like walking through with his hat down and he's like just seeing how people are reacting to it and looking at the stuff and it's hitting him emotionally a little bit. I thought when he visited Peggy, I thought that was basically a woman's nightmare in a way, where he's so young and hot, and

she's literally cryptkeeper status. Can't move. But she was still getting it. She could curl her hair. Her fingers were nimble. I like that your whole theory is Nicole hinges on the fact that she can curl her hair. That's on the fact that she can curl her hair.

Like, that's why he's thinking she can curl her hair. She can fuck. She can pop that pussy. Oh, my God. I mean, the stamina of, like, sitting up in bed curling your hair. She probably had to get out of bed. Yeah, I think she's, yeah, she popped that pussy for some Steve dick. That's his name, right?

Yeah, Steve. Oh, Steve. Okay, so meanwhile, Nick Fury discovers that the data on the USB is inaccessible. Suspicious. He informs Alexander Pierce, played by Robert Redford, and asks him to- I love Robert Redford and asks him to- Real quick, I love Robert Redford. Oh my God. Have you ever seen Indecent Proposal?

Let me tell you something. It is indecent and it is sexy. I like, every time he did something bad in the movie, I'd be like, Robert, I love him. I love Robert Redford. He is so old and sexy. Maybe I just like old people. Yeah, yeah.

I think we're sensing a pattern here. We're uncovering something about you right now. I need to know more. I need to see Indecent Proposal. I've heard about that movie. You have to. You have to see Woody Harrelson, Demi Moore at their youngest and their best. And you're like, oh, that's why they're stars.

Like everyone in the movie is so charismatic. Robert Redford is so sexy it's a long movie so it is the premise that well I obviously can handle it because I watch these but it's the premise that she's with Woody Harrelson and then Robert Redford wants to fuck her for money and she says yes

he goes for one million dollars let me have your wife for a night and they're like we could never we could never then they're like maybe and you'll see what happens oh okay I'm excited Let me have your wife for a night. Who would they know? And they're like, we could never. We could never. Then they're like, maybe. And you'll see what happens. Oh, okay. I'm excited.

That sounds good. Okay. So Fury asks Alexander Pierce to request the World Council delay Project Insight. Fury leaves the Triskelion and is attacked by assassins. He gets trapped under a car and approached by a threatening masked man before escaping into the sewers like Ninja Turtles. This was fun. Yeah. Yeah.

I also thought all the Nick Fury stuff was really fun in this movie. We got the most of him that we've ever gotten. And he's a great character. And I also like I was I was very intrigued by the storyline with him that, you know, we'll get into more. But like I thought, oh, he's got some secrets and some interesting stuff. He's usually just kind of there to guide a little bit. So I felt like we got a lot more out of him. But he was fighting.

He was talking to his car. His car was like, we can't help you. It was, I really had a good time. And then when he escaped into the sewer but i really enjoyed that too it was fun okay so steve he arrives at his apartment and he flirts with his neighbor emily van camp who was great on this show called revenge on abc i like her yes it was such a good show um okay so he finds the injured fury sitting in the dark speaking in code tells, and it's funny because he was like, there's ears everywhere. And I was like, what about eyes?

You're literally like, like notes apping him. I know. You don't think somebody can see that? Hey, who knows about your wife? He's like, just you and me. But he's like, my friend. I think he tells them what's going on when you're talking that slow anyway. So Fury tells them that S.H.I.E.L.D. has been compromised and not to trust anyone giving him the USB.

The masked assassin shoots him through the window. I was like, gasp. Steve's neighbor smashes the door. I was like, what? And she's Agent 13. Steve pursues the masked assassin, truly throws himself out the window. I laughed really hard.

Throws his shield at him, which the assassin easily catches with his what? Metal arm! Oh my god! Fury is taken to the hospital in critical condition. His heart appears to stop during surgery. And Natasha was like watching that. Agent Brock

Rumlow, Frank Brillo, tells Steve he's wanted at the Triskelion for an urgent meeting. Steve quickly hides the USB in a vending machine. How? He didn't have the key. I've opened the vending machine many a times at the UCB Training Center in New York. It is a thing. You have to

get the keys out. You gotta unlock it. You gotta open the door. You have to pull out the rings. There is no way he did it that fast. Did you get free snacks there? No, I paid for all the snacks. Except for sometimes, I would take these Nature Valley nut bars. But I always paid them back when I got paid because I didn't have no money.

So I'd be like, oh, okay, I got paid. So let me put like $5 in the thing. So, you know, I didn't want to steal from my job. They were good to me. No, you're so nice. Yeah, what a good person. Every job I had before, you know, this, I've definitely stole in some way. It's like, you gonna take my soul.

Then I'm gonna take something with me. I never steal from my jobs because I don't want that karma. Do you know what I mean? Okay. I mean, yeah, but I feel like going out of a vending machine, it's like, who's getting the money then? Like the training center or like some vending machine company? I don't know.

I don't know how that works. There's no bad karma under capitalism. As long as you're being a cog in the tool. That's like your superhero motto. Yeah. Okay. So at the Triskelion, he is by pierce about who killed fury and steve refuses to tell him anything steve's such a good guy he is and then in the elevator steve is joined by

rum low and uh several operatives who attack him this was fun he was like anybody want to get out and they're all like no he fights the attackers he jumps out of the elevator again i laughed and drives away on a motorcycle no helmet pierce declares steve rogers a fugitive pierce then goes home and it's revealed that he is working with the masked assassin and he fucking shoots his housekeeper dude that was crazy that was like cold fucking blooded and i loved it i said i did love that i thought that was a really good scene. Like, so she's,

she's finishing up cleaning and he gets home and he's like, you can leave. And then she leaves. And then we see Bucky, right? Yeah. In the dark. And then she comes back and she forgot her phone.

And he just goes, I wish you'd rang the doorbell. And he kills her with a gun. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. I loved it was so good i said robert how dare you drinking milk so steve gets to the hospital where natasha has nabbed the usb and he's like what the fuck and then she tells him that the mass assassin is known as the winter soldier which is a corny name but that's all she knows she joins him on the run they take the first you

or they take the usb to the Apple store and they trace the location of where the information was written. And we got a little cameo from DC Pearson. Yes. UCB as the Apple store employee. And that was funny. And that's really exciting. There's some fun cameos in this.

Danny Pooley. We got some fun people. They steal a truck and drive to Camp Lehigh in New Jersey where Steve trained. They find a secret storage room with a computer that accepts the USB. The computer speaks to them in the voice of Arnim Zola, Red Skull's assistant from Captain America. This was crazy. This part

was nuts. I was like, he's not dead? That was really, he's like, I live in the computer now. I am a computer person. It was so goofy. it was a little silly it was very silly because they were like he was actively answering questions so he was like he like this is advanced from when you made this bro uh also it had my favorite thing that happens when someone's talking to like somebody through a screen and he like punches it he's like and then he appeared on

another screen and that made me laugh and like wait so his he was like i don't have a body but i live in the computer and then he was like okay with like killing himself when like the whole thing exploded i didn't understand that i think he was like sacrificing he was uh i i, in the spirit of the movie, I think it was like, I lured you here. I'm buying time. We're blowing up. I, what is it? Sacrifice myself.

But like, just plot wise, it was like, oh, I'm here to move the story forward and let you know what's up. That's true. That's true. Okay, so that guy tells them he was recruited by S.H.I.E.L.D. after World War II

and helped to rebuild HYDRA as a shadow operation. Zola implies that HYDRA assassinated Tony Stark's parents. He also tells them that he was working on an algorithm for HYDRA. Before he can get more info about the Winter Soldier, the bunker is attacked. Okay, so wait, so that was him trying to get info and then they were attacked? Oh. It wasn't him attacking? I thought he was kind of like, here we go!

I thought he was stalling for here we go he was stalling for them to like get their location it was like i'm gonna give you all this information and just stand right there and don't move and listen to and i'm gonna tell you now yeah and i think you're dead and then he and hopping into a hole protected them from the explosion. Yeah, that was wild. I was like, no, I don't buy that. No. He has the shield.

We know the shield is the end all be all. That's all you need to know is if the shield is blocking something, nothing can harm them. So I think it was the the way I think it was bounced around is he's in a hole. The shield is over the hole. So the heat or whatever doesn't harm them because the shield protects all. Wait, I have a question about the shield that you might know. So the shield is made of vibranium. Is that what it's called?

Vibranium, yeah. Who stole it from Wakanda? You're going to have to keep watching. Oh, we're going to find out. Wait, did someone else tell us we're going to find out? And I just keep asking the question? I mean, yeah, you're going to have to keep watching. Oh, we're going to find out. Wait, did someone else tell us we're going to find out? And I just keep asking the question? I mean, yeah, you're going to find out. And when you find out, you'll learn how it kind of gets distributed.

But it all starts, everyone's trying to get their hands on it. But it is coming from Wakanda. Okay. And that's all I'm going to say. They're going to do a cool graphic where you see how vibranium came to Earth and all that. Oh, a graphic. Yeah. Okay. cool do a cool graphic where you see how vibranium came to earth and all that so i'm not gonna yeah yeah okay i i like watching leia's face light up when i mention these things i'm like yeah okay that's what i know i'm saying something that's right so it came to earth it's from outer space

from like a space creature yeah not a creature you're it's gonna be explained in black panther it is i've seen black panther we already know yeah we've both seen that one but you're okay you don't remember at the beginning when they they're like this meteor came and smacked right in wakanda and then they had the vibranium fun fact about black panther and me i saw in theaters i was about 15 minutes late so i missed the beginning oh wow you literally missed that you literally missed everything i'm telling you like and then i saw it at the hollywood bowl and i was late again but i saw five extra minutes you are missing key details yeah yeah i mean i missed it because i just forget everything but yeah yeah yeah no you truly missed the specific part with wow wow and that's all i want to know oh my god steven natasha they escape and seek refuge with sam wilson they go to

his back door and i was like you don't know this man sam offers to help steven natasha and sam capture and threaten agent jasper sitwell who's working for hydra sitwell is meeting with senator stern gary shandling previously seen in Iron Man 2, who needed his nails clipped. They didn't look healthy. Another Hydra conspirator, Sitwell reveals that Hydra plans to use Project Insight

as a genocidal weapon to eliminate people who they deem as potential threats using Zola's algorithm. Can I just say, regarding his nails, I feel like people don't look at your nails

when you're an actor and I always want them to. I'm like, I know my nails are nails when you're an actor. And I always like want them to like, I'm like, I know my nails are fucked up. No one's going to fix this. Now my character has fucked up nails or whatever. Yeah. No, it nails. Yeah. I remember it's been stuck in my head, but when I was like in, I think seventh grade or so, like one of my teachers were like, make sure you take care of your nails. I was watching this commercial and it showed their hand and his hand was so messed up. And I think about that every time I go into a commercial audition because of that. And then specifically today I was watching a porn video and it showed a closeup of the guy's hand. And I'm like, this is the worst place to not have

your nails. Like, are you kidding me? How are you touching another person? You can't be fingering people with dirty nails you'll give somebody tetanus the worst it was the worst if i was like this close to like trying to get a super close screenshot where you only see the fingers to be like this is unacceptable that is sick that is sick yuck that really takes you out of it yeah oh my god okay well the trio is attacked by the winter soldier on the way to Triskelion. As Steve and Winter Soldier fight, the latter man's mask is torn off,

revealing the face of Bucky Barnes. When Steve calls out to him, Bucky does not recognize his own name. Which is very funny for an adult man to go, Bucky? And then Bucky to be like, who the fuck is Bucky?

What are you saying to me? Yeah, because it's such a goofy name. Yes. It's like, you think I'm fucking Bucky? Look to me goofy name yes it's like you think i'm fucking bucky look how cool i am my whole look like my name is not bucky yeah uh so steve natasha and sam are taken into custody but while they're in the prison van one of their guards reveals themselves reveals herself to be a fellow shield agent and ally maria hill maria takes him to a secret facility where fury is resting after faking his fucking death i couldn't believe it yes okay so steve remembers via flashback how

bucky offered him a place to stay so he wouldn't have to be alone after his mother died in the present sam sam and steve sued up to stop the project insight launch by breaking into the smith oh my god breaking into the smith the Smithsonian and stealing the old cap uniform. Gotta say, pretty upset to see Steve Little again. I hate it. It's upsetting. I hated that. I hated that.

And it's even funnier now because we're so used to him, and it's like, that's not him. That's not who he is. It's so funny because it's like he's so buff. They're like, get buff, and we're going to CG you to be little. It's not going to be the other way around. I know. I have a special connection to Captain America's buffness.

Because I remember right when the first Captain America came out, they did a whole Chris Evans thing on GQ. And I remember like when you know how sometimes when they do interviews, they set the scene of the room. He was like, I sit in his Boston home, look on his shelf and there's a five gallon jug of protein. And I was like, yeah, I know that. I know. And apparently he said his like, he said his like roommate was a trainer. And I was like, oh, I know exactly how you got buff, dude. You got fucking juiced up and you and your boys fucking hit the Boston gym and went at it. Like, that's how you got. You didn't go to no Equinox.

None of that. You're like, no, we're going to fucking stick this needle in my ass and we're going to fucking push. Wait. Can I ask you, like, like, percentage wise, like how many people who are really buff are doing that? Here's the thing is it's it's not the fact that you're really buff. It's always speed. Like, you know, if you see someone get really, because putting on mass is probably one of the hardest things next to cutting weight. So when you see someone get like muscle mass huge and they weren't like a, like me, I can put on muscle mass because I have a larger frame. So really

it's like if I put in a little. But like if I really went like Ronnie Coleman big, like it would take so long. Ronnie Coleman is a huge bodybuilder and says nothing but a peanut before he lifts things. But like, yeah, so that's what it is. But like there's nothing wrong with it because we're not like in sports. You can do it. Like, I remember, was it Robert De Niro who like he said for raging bulls, he was like, yeah, I juiced.

He was like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, that's right. We're actors. We don't have to like, we're not going to be tested for PED. Yeah, I'm going to fucking stick this shit in my ass so I can be a superhero. Yeah. Interesting. Lauren, would you so I can be a superhero. Yeah. Interesting. Lauren, would you do steroids to be a superhero?

I would just do them for fun. I'll go on the record. I'll do it. I'll do steroids. You know what? I will say when you described it, I was intrigued. I was thinking, what would happen if I did that? Well, yeah, right?

Because I remember I went because I'm not doing the keto thing anymore. I'm just doing like payload cuts, just so it can be more sustainable. And I went in and I was like, yo, what's a good fat burner? He was like, well, are you trying to do hormone stuff? And I was like, what? No. I was like, I don't want to play with that because also I'm like, every time you get into that road, something happens with your dick. And I was like, that's the one thing I don't want to play with that because also I'm like, every time you get into that road, something happens with your dick.

And I was like, that's the one thing I don't want to mess with. Like, I'll take on the pain. I'll take, take the pound. And he was like, every, like the way he said it too, when I was like, so what, what would go into it? And he was like, well, there are some cons. I was like, so, oh, he's like, he's like, he's like, but if you do everything right. And I was like, I don't know. You don't know me. I do nothing right. And I was like, I don't know. You don't know me?

I do nothing right. I do nothing right. I can't take this risk. I need my dick to work. I need it to look good. I want my balls to look good. I want the ratio looking good. Wait, do the balls get big?

The balls get small with steroids. They get small. They get small. Which honestly might be a plus because you might look like you're packing like a monster. Yeah, that'll give some heat. Yeah, because I do have like abnormal. This isn't that kind of problem. What are you going to tell us about your balls?

It's kind of big. They're big. They're like big. When I went to Mexico, I went to a pharmacy and they were like, do you want steroids? And I was like, what made you think I want steroids? And she was like human growth hormone. And then she took out a pamphlet. I was like, oh, no, Adderall.

No, I don't. No. That's too scary, I think, to like mess with everything. But yeah. And I think what you're saying about how it affects the penis is very risky. Look at go. Here's the thing. And no shade to this man, because I don't want to deal with any of his fans.

Look at Fear Factor and look at Joe Rogan now. That head is HGH. Everyone knows that's an H. When you take human growth, you get a bigger head. My head is like perfectly shaped. Yeah, don't fuck with it. You look great. Yeah.

You're doing everything right. No, thank you i wonder i interesting to take human growth hormones like steroids right yeah it's in the same like ballpark it's more very funny to take it to sit to podcast he needs his strength to talk for two hours every day man and his fans could his fans can come for me. I don't fucking care. I don't know what. What are you going to say? Well, look, Ben, now I have to step up to protect you. I was just talking about this the other day. Who was that fucking guy from Monty Python? I was going to pull up on that old man for you.

Oh, that guy. John Cleese? Yeah, John Cleese. That was so mean. I was very mean. John Cleese. Yeah, that was so mean. I was going to go pull up on his ass. Oh, my God. I was like, it's nothing. Like, I was already, like, I'm so willing to pull up just for my friends anyway.

But then you're old. Come on. So I know it'll be easy. Come on. Don't talk crazy. It was just so messed up. It was so funny. I loved it.

I do. Nicole, I do love how you will retweet people who are mean to you, though. Well, here's the thing. It's just absurd. If that brings you joy, I can let you you will retweet people who are mean to you, though. Well, here's the thing. It's just absurd. If that brings you joy, I can let you know. I saw it. I hear you. I don't know.

My check's still cleared. Other people like me. I'm good. But if that makes you happy, then yeah, by all means, say whatever you want. But also the buyeryerhive eats their, like, just destroys them after it. So it's great. It's a win-win. That's so fun. I love to watch.

Me too. Wait, where are we in this? We have so much more movie left. Oh, God. Okay. We have Hydra agents prepare the Winter Soldier for battle, but he starts to ask who Bucky is and why he knew Steve. Flashes of memory show how Hydra found Bucky after he fell off a train, gave him a metal

arm, habitually brainwashed him and kept him in cryostasis between missions so that he would not age. Pierce demands they wipe his mind again. Honestly, this scene goes by so fast. It's like, boom,

he fell. We got him. Oh no, he's, he's angry. Oh no. Okay. So we're not going to make a mate.

And then he's like, wipe his brain. And then he took in all that information and went, good idea. He didn't find anybody. He said, all right, I do it. I'm about to just let it rip. So members of the World Security Council arrive at the Triskelion and are given access badges.

They meet in Pierce's office. Steve, Sam, and Maria break into the Triskelion and take control of the communication systems. Steve reveals to the staff that they are Hydra infiltrators in S.H.I.E.L.D. led by Pierce, and they cannot be allowed to infiltrate Project Insight. I hated this. I hate it when that man was like, did that come off the dome? Or did you write that down?

I'm like, you know he didn't write shit down. Yeah, and I didn't like this whole Zoom thing that they were doing where they were like having a Zoom meeting in those chairs. I think there's literally a Zoom feature where you look like you're sitting at a table and I feel like this is what they did. Where they make everyone at a conference table.

Very funny. It was like kind of good technology, but I sort of liked how they had that whole place looking. But anyways, okay, I'll keep going. Romulo and his men threaten an agent unless he launches the helicarriers. Agent 13 intervenes, starting a revolt on Captain's orders, but Romulo still manages to get the helicarriers in the air. Back in Pierce's office, one of the World Council members takes off a mask, revealing herself to be Natasha. Which was not a mask, it was a digital rendering that she peeled off with her hand like it was a screen

and i loved it and she begins to upload all the shield all of shield and hydra secure files to the internet no fury arrives dramatically on the scene and uses his eye to de-encrypt the file so they can be leaked it was so dramatic but then i was also like wait does his eye have a power how do i know because i thought he was, I lost my eye because of whatever. Yeah. It was confusing. Anyway, Steve and Sam managed to get control of the two.

Also, when did Steve, when did Sam get wings? Did I miss that? No, that was, that was a surprise. Yeah.

He explains, I think that he was like, oh, I've secretly been part of this military operation and I have these wings. And they're like, okay. I think he said it at his house when they were having breakfast. See, that stuff went over my head because I always

knew Sam Wilson was Falcon. So I was watching the whole thing. I was like, when are you going to get the wings? And when he had, I was like, I'm not going to ask questions. Put his ass in and let him fly. Let my boy fly. That was the only thing that made me think like, okay, that's why he was fine with the weird facts about steve because he was like i also have superpowers but does he have superpowers or he just has wings he has wings and guns oh interesting and he'd be blasting he also said while they were at his house he was like do you guys want breakfast

if you people eat that kind of thing and i was like yeah they're at his house he was like do you guys want breakfast if you people eat that kind of thing and i was like yeah they're they eat breakfast it was such a strange line but like you would almost think that steve wouldn't eat breakfast because he's five billion years old that it's like nothing matters like he doesn't have to eat a strict diet i don't know um okay so steve and sam managed to control two of the helicarriers but uh when Sam is going for the last one his jetpack is damaged he is forced to skydive down into the Traskillion

where he intercepts Romulo meanwhile Steve confronts Bucky and tries to remind him of all the fun they had back in Pierce's office the upload has finished so much uploading in these movies however using his mobile device or who's using the mobile device to trigger So much uploading in these movies. However, using his mobile device, who's using the mobile device

to trigger a small device in the World Security Council members' badges instantly killing them. Wait, who did that? Robert. Oh, Robert. Oh, Robert Redford, yes.

He be killing. Then Steve gains control of the final helicarrier and Maria Hill changes their targets to each other. Natasha complies as Pierce's hostage,

giving her time to disable her security badge while Fury shoots and kills Pierce. They escape and grab Sam from the crumbling building. Meanwhile, Bucky continues to fight Steve before he passes out. Steve promises Bucky to be with him till the end of the line. Something Bucky said to him after his mother's death. Steve then falls into the water and is dragged out somewhat mysteriously by Bucky. Steve wakes up in a hospital with Sam at his side. S.H.I.E.L.D. is now unstable. Agent 13 has a new job at the FBI.

Maria Hill now works for Stark Industries. Fury goes off the grid. Natasha appears in a congressional hearing and challenges the U.S. government. The group meets at Fury's grave, quote unquote, because he's not dead, where Natasha hands Steve a file with information on Bucky and what Hydra did to him. Sam volunteers to help him search for bucky and bring him back to who he was in a mid-credit scene hydra leader baron strucker thomas crutcheman holds loki's scepter in a lamb a lamb a lab in soka then he walks over to a pair of cells containing the only two survivors of his experiments. One is a man, Aaron Taylor Johnson, who's running around at tremendous speeds.

I was concerned. That was stupid. It was so dumb. The other one contains a woman, Elizabeth Olsen, who is like levitating a few blocks. This was like very Matrix-y to me, and she causes one to explode. This is Wanda and Pytro

Maximoff? Oh my God, these names. Strucker says that this is the Age of Miracles. And then in another

post-credits scene, by the way, my Disney Plus stopped playing it and put it into a little square and moved it across. I had to go back and start over.

It was insane. I had to drag over and click on it. I couldn't figure it out for the life of me. I was so stressed. I was like, only because I knew it was there but they over. You have to drag over and click on it. I couldn't figure it out for the life of me. I was so stressed. I was like, only because I knew it was there, but they didn't want me to watch it. Bucky is now dressed in civilian clothing, visits the Captain America exhibit at the Smithsonian, and reads about himself with a faraway look in his eye.

And there you have it. We have Captain America, Winter Solji. So, I don't know. It seems like y'all didn't pick up on it, but Pietro and Wanda are Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, which was wild at the time because this is Marvel did not have X-Men. And those are canonically Magneto's son and daughter. Yes. Yeah. So.

X-Men is the one thing Nicole knows about. Yeah. The only thing nicole knows about the only yeah the only thing i actually do know about um but that's wild because quicksilver is what's his name from uh mayor of east town so and he was it was already established that it was him right yeah they were cast around the same time what oh i guess because one is Fox, one is Marvel. So they were like, but then wait, how did they put Quicksilver in a Marvel movie if Fox still had X-Men? As long as they removed him from being related to Magneto, they were able to have him because they were their own characters is what I assume. They struck a deal. Ooh, okay.

And they were also not allowed to use the word mutant isn't that so that's why he says it's the age of miracles is because they're not allowed to call them mutants yet but now they can well now yeah technically now they can because they have x-men back yeah oh and um do you guys want to take one guess as to who directed that post-credits scene that you just called stupid um oh that man who did the avengers joss whedon i was gonna say joss whedon but get him out of here get him out oh man i know it's it's the joss the joss whedon stuff is is uh heart uh i don't want to say heartbreaking. It sucks.

You can say heartbreaking because when you like somebody and they do something that's not cool. I have a selfie with him and a bunch of other black people at Comic-Con. I was like, well, we can't post this anymore. Let me remove this from my highlights. Okay, well, this movie did not win or america wasn't nominated for any major awards but chris evans did win favorite action movie star at the people's choice awards oh that's nice the reception this film seems to have been better received than the first captain america holding a 90 rating on rotten tomatoes compared to the first avengers 80 yeah no i see i definitely

fucked it up. So here's the thing, is I totally forgot that this doesn't complete the Winter Soldier arc and that it picks back up because it is a major piece of when you see Civil War. That's the one a lot of people were like, meh. And it's because Civil War is like one of the biggest crossover events in Marvel history

and it gets truncated into everyone that they've kind of established at that point. But me, uh, I was like, I get it. Like, like we can't have a Goliath movie. We can't have it. Like, there's just so like the amount of like weaving you can do in, on like comic in comic books and paper versus like Hollywood, that would be the world's most expensive movie. So that's why people were a little salty. But I enjoyed it. And it introduces two characters, which are y'all going to be watching the Spider-Mans too?

I think we're watching all three or just one? Two. Two Spider-Mans? Homecoming and Far From Home. Oh. Okay. Wait, Homecoming, is that and Far From Home. Oh. Okay. Wait, Homecoming, is that the one that just came out? No. No Way Home is the one that just came out. Why are there so many homes? Because that was the kind of thing

with it, is they all had Home in the title. Oh. Okay, well, something else is that Todd McCarthy of The Hollywood Reporter said the film takes the bold, for Marvel, step of reducing CGI spectacle to a relative minimum in favor of reviving the pleasures of hard-driving old-school action, surprising character development, and intriguing suspense. The Winter Soldier obviously raked in the box office, baby, like all Marvel movies do,

but it didn't set quite as many records as some of its MCU predecessors. It earned a worldwide total, oh my God, $714.4 million. That's so weak comparatively. Yeah, so, what? Pathetic. Yeah. Okay, we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back with a little bit more Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier. And we're back.

Trivia time. Okay. Chris Evans and Scarlett Johansson wrote their own dialogue for several scenes they had together. Johansson also had the idea to wear a necklace with an arrow on it as a nod to Hawkeye. Why? They fucking? I know it seems very sexual to write your scenes together. When asked why Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, or any of the other Avengers weren't called to help,

the screenwriters explained that the movie only takes place over about three days. Therefore, the characters didn't have a chance to contact them because phones don't exist. They didn't have time. Kevin Feige selected Joe Russo and Anthony Russo to direct the film on the basis of two back-to-back episodes of Community in 2009 they directed, with which Feige was impressed. Season 2

episode 23 called A Fistful of Paintballs and season 2 episode 24 for A Few Paintballs More. Wow. Is it Feig or Feige? I don't know. I just made it up. I said it wrong each time. Who knows? Kevin Feige. There is a Feige that I

always mix them up. So that's why I was there's another like Feige director. There's a Feig. Paul Fe mix them up so that's why i was there's there's another like fiche director um there's a fig paul fig yeah that's who i met that's paul fig that's who i met paul fig who i definitely met and i still somehow messed his name up years okay you know this piece of trivia is juicy in the comics the winter Winter Soldier trained Natasha Romanoff and the two were eventually in a romantic relationship. I would like to see that. That's what I want to. I want to see that.

I'm super excited about that. The most popular ship to come out of the Captain America movies is Stephen Bucky. Fan fiction about Stucky, the name for the pairing, jumped 54 places in anive of Our Own shipping stats from number 76 to number 22 between 2013 and 2014, the year

this film was released. By 2015, it had jumped another 15 more places to number 7. Stucky? Stucky. Okay, during filming, Sebastian Stan would walk around all day practicing his moves with a plastic knife because he wanted his movements to feel natural. Wow. That's funny to me anytime i hear that i'm like what what is that like you just sitting there i'm eating a

a nutrigrain bar by crafty and you just see going i know it's so funny oh my god boy oh boy it's time for our segment is chris in this this is our segment where we have a yes or no conversation about if a Chris was in this film, like Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Chris Pratt, or Chris Pine. Was a Chris in this film? Hell yeah, Chris Evans. Yes, he was, and we were so happy to see him again. Yeah, he, okay, I will say this.

Nice body. Sometimes his face brings me back to not another teen movie where I'm like vacant. You were casting that role for a read. Like sometimes you look vacant. Oh yeah. I forgot he was in that. It's a great movie.

It's a nice thing to visit. Um, is the kiss in this second new segment. There was a kiss on an escalator. I liked that kiss. And there was another one, wasn't there? Or no,

am I forgetting? There was definitely that one. I think there might've been one more, but I liked that kiss. And there was another one, wasn't there? Or no, am I forgetting? There was definitely that one. I think there might have been one more, but I don't know. I don't remember. Was there one in the car? Or no, I made this up. I was just hoping they would keep kissing. And I felt like there was going to be a romance with them.

But then at the end, she was like telling him to go after someone else. Wasn't there like a moment where she's like, oh, a moment not at the end i think it was like in the middle where she was like what about so and so and yeah he was like i don't want to date and she was like you have time and then he's like you're right my whole barbershop quartet is dead and that made me laugh um all right well we're coming to the end. This is our segment called Five Stark Industries where we read five star reviews. This is a five star review from someone whose name is Ha Ha He He Ha Ha Ha. And the review says, please make more episodes.

Please do. And that's it. And I like that. Nice. I like it. So in addition to Apple reviews and newcomers, we're also reading reviews from a letterboxd. And then we're going to give each film a one sentence review and a star rating

for anyone who doesn't know letterboxd is a social platform where people can write reviews of films. You can follow our show on letterboxd at newcomers. And so here's a letterboxd review from someone in 2021. This is a person named Lily. I gave it a four-star review when your ex-boyfriend comes back into your life and starts causing trouble but you still love him heartbreak totally uh this is from lucy this is essentially a surprisingly decent spy thriller

where steve rogers flirts with all his friends love that lucy watched a different movie yeah i wouldn't call it that but okay let's give our one sentence review of the film what a rip warring fun time oh baby yeah yeah yeah five stars oh yeah five we're jumping to five i loved it i'm gonna give it five stars too because i think so far it is my favorite and i would say um almost feels like a movie almost feels like a non-marvel movie if you're someone who doesn't tend to watch superhero things but just enough fun comic book stuff to keep you guessing yeah yeah iffy what's your review oh my review is it's starting to get good, yo. Five stars.

Yeah, this is when Marvel's like really starts to take its stride and figures out the formula that has kind of solidified them, which is give your movies a genre. And so they went with spy movie with this. You're going to see you're going to notice they're going to be genre hopping with all of the one off movies. And then the big popcorn flick is the Avenger movies. Wow. OK, well, please go write a review on Apple podcast. We will read five star reviews every episode and rate us on Spotify as well. If you have anything you want to plug.

Oh, yeah. You know, definitely watch Grand Crew. You know, the person who plays Nikki. Great. We thought long and hard what to name this character. We brainstormed for three days. How do we name this character? And we went with Nikki. Yeah. Twisted Metal when it comes out, play Apex Legends. I write for that as well. And yeah, if you wide away on Twitter and Instagram, if you want to see, you to see thirst traps or whatever I got going on. Yeah. There's plenty of that. Yeah. And it's

fun. You're a good follow. Yeah. People should check it out. Well, we'll be back next week with Guardians of the Galaxy, which I think I might have seen half of on the plane. We might like this. I think I well, I know Vin Diesel plays Groot.

So I'm into that. And he just goes, I am Groot. I think there's a little raccoon. Yeah. Yeah. I know that stuff too. That's all I got though. And make sure you look up the video of Vin Diesel reading it in different languages because Vin Diesel

requested to do all the different languages for Groot. Oh my god. That's actually brilliant. Does he say, yo soy Groot? Yes, he does. Soy Groot! That's so awesome. Oh, I'm very excited. That's a good idea to do all

of them because, I mean, he just says one line. It's paid for all that then, too. I love Vin Diesel. He's all about family. He's my first crush. I used to have pictures of him all over my walls growing up. Wait, really? Honestly, your face has softened so much talking about

him. You're like, it feels like you're so wistful. I can't take this. I love him. He's great. Okay. Never forget the Drunken Love dancing video oh I love him

he's wonderful oh my god well bye bye thank you thank you of course anytime Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.