Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Eternals (w/ Patton Oswalt)

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

The time has come: Pip the Troll (whom you might know as Patton Oswalt) joins Nicole and Lauren to wave goodbye to the Marvel Cinematic Universe and discuss the swirling rumors of a Patton-O...swalt-and-Harry-Styles Eternals spinoff vehicle. But, wipe those tears: Newcomers will be back next week with a very special bonus episode, recorded live from Comic Con in San Diego this weekend. The journey continues! Next week's movie: Thor: Love & Thunder (2022) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. Five years ago, Thanos erased half of the population of the universe. But the people of this planet brought everyone back with a snap of a finger. The sudden return of the population provided the necessary energy for the emergence to begin. How long do we have? Seven days.
Starting point is 00:00:52 We're Eternals. We came here 7,000 years ago... ...to protect humans from the Deviants. Why didn't you guys help fight Thanos? Or any war, or all the other terrible things throughout history? We were instructed not to interfere in any human conflicts unless Deviants are involved. By who? We need to find the others. I haven't seen some of them for centuries.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Hi. Hello. This is what the end of the world looks like. At least we have front row seats. You know what's never saved the planet? Your sarcasm. We've loved these people since the day we arrived. When you love something,
Starting point is 00:02:05 you protect it. You can't protect... ...any of them. I bet you've built the perfect safe house. What's this even made of? Vibranium? Don't! Fall Collection. IKEA. I'm going to go. Oop, oop, oop, oop, oop. It's a new episode of Newcomers.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We're covering the Marvel Cinematic Universe. This is our fifth. What? Well, I was going to say, not only is it a new episode, it's our final episode of the season. Wow, wow, wow. We've come so far. We've seen so much content.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Yeah. Honestly, I think about Marvel a lot now, and it's upsetting. I know, and I've clicked on multiple articles about Marvel stuff to read in my spare time. Yes, you sent me one about Chris Hemsworth not eating meat before kissing Natalie Portman because she's a vegan. And I wrote back, oh, my God, that's so sweet. And I genuinely meant it. I thought that was really thoughtful and considerate. Yeah, we love Marvel, I guess.
Starting point is 00:04:18 It's really weird. I literally have read there was like a BuzzFeed thing that I was like, I guess I'll read this. Like, I don't even know. Like, I'm just I'm interested, I guess, is what I'm trying to say yeah I think I'm well I finished WandaVision you did I did I didn't think I was gonna do it and then there was one night where I was real sleepy and I had taken an Ambien and I missed the last 15 minutes and I dreamt about it I dreamt about not knowing what happened so then then I woke up and re-watched it because I was like,
Starting point is 00:04:47 I gotta know what happened to Wanda. Oh my God. Okay, well I think I have to finish that as well and catch up to you. It's good. And then I was like, maybe I will watch Moon Man. I know that's not what that's called.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I cannot remember. But I know there's a moon and there's white. Moon Knight. Moon Knight. Yeah, but he's dressed like a mummy so it doesn't really make sense to me. I cannot remember. But I know there's a moon and there's white. Moon Knight. Moon Knight. Yeah. But he's dressed like a mummy, so it doesn't really make sense to me. But anyway, we should tell people there's going to be a bonus episode that will be recorded live at Comic-Con that's launching on the 26th. We should just get into it.
Starting point is 00:05:18 We're discussing. Let's get into it. We're talking about Eternals. It came out in 2021, which I thought was a bonus for it because it was so current. Like it was so recently made that I was more intrigued and interested. It is available with a subscription on Disney+. You can also watch it for a fee on Amazon, Apple TV+, Google Play, and Vudu. Obviously, we're going to spoil the entire film.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So if you want to watch it first, do that. Stop. Come back. Or just listen to the whole plot and we'll just tell you everything. Before we bring out our guest who we're very excited about, Nicole, what are your thoughts on the film right off the bat? Wow. There were so many main characters for me to keep track of. And that's not fair. You know, it's not nice. In the first five minutes, when they're all lined up, I was like, one, two.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I counted. And I was like, we don't know who any of them are. I was like, how are none of these from the thing that we've already seen? This is like crazy. I was very upset. And I got to say, so I also watch The Boys. I love The Boys on Amazon. And what's his name?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Homelander shoots lasers out of his eyeballs. And so does Icarus. I can't believe you know that name. I know. Isn't that cool? And he does too. And then I was like, ah, he's just as bad as Homelander. I was like, this is too similar.
Starting point is 00:06:40 It's too similar. Oh, yeah. I guess there's only so many superhero thingies you can do. Sometimes the laser focus was really intense. Like when you were just like, no. Like I was picturing the actor without the lasers. Like just like, bruh. But I did, I was like into this movie for a while.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And then I got less into it. But I thought the beginning was, it really had me hooked. And I liked all the London stuff. I thought that was really fun. We'll get all into the details with our guests. Should we bring our guests out? Ooh, baby, you should do it. You're good at introducing people. We are so
Starting point is 00:07:14 excited for our guest today, Patton Oswalt. Patton is a comedian, actor, and screenwriter that you've seen in pretty much everything you've ever liked, but was also in Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Marvel's MODOK, which he co-created and starred in. Holy shit. He is also starring in a new film coming out next month called I Love My Dad.
Starting point is 00:07:33 He also happens to be in the movie we're all here to talk about today, Eternals, as Pip the Troll, which we were excited to see. And the pictures are amazing that we got sent in advance. I was like, I can't wait to see this troll. And then when you came out, was good i got the picture in them i will say i got the picture in the middle of watching and i was kind of glad because i've been like i was like when am i going to see the troll when i'm going to see and i was like oh okay it's coming at the end i now know it's at the end um we're so excited to to welcome to our show pat and oswald thanks for
Starting point is 00:08:01 being here thank you guys so much for having me. I could listen to you guys struggle to describe Marvel titles all day. I'm amazed that Nicole didn't call this movie Always Men. This is amazing. That would have been good. That's a better title. It would have been very, very good.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Always Men. They never die, They're always been. They're always been. But yeah, wow. You guys picked a doozy to end on because you're right. This movie gives you, there's very little connection to the Marvel Universe. It is all new characters, a whole new realm. They just throw it at you.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yeah, and then they very quickly explain why these incredible super powered people who have combined are like invincible why they didn't stop thanos they were just like we couldn't get involved i know what i know what it was it shook me wait patent so you co-created a marvel thing how familiar are you with Marvel? I'm actually pretty familiar. And I know, I mean, since I was a teenager, I've been into comics. So the Eternals isn't new to me. I was just amazed that they adapted it because it's a very, very deep,
Starting point is 00:09:23 you know, little more difficult thing to digest. The fact that they went for that was, I was very impressed with it. Like, Mike, they're actually doing this? You know, because Jack Kirby very famously was like, I'm going to create a whole new universe within the Marvel universe that no one else interacts with. And then I'm going to just, so, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:41 that was his, the power of his imagination. Now, you know, trying to make that into a whole new movie was a whole different task. Yeah. I felt like it should have been split up into two movies or something. Like a lot fucking happened. So much happened that I was like, wait, now we're here. Now we're here. Selma Hayek, she's supposed to be dead.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Oh, that's a flashback. Oh, no. It was a lot. Yeah. The time jumping through, she's supposed to be dead. Oh, that's a flashback. Oh, no. It was a lot. Yeah, the time jumping threw me for a loop a few times. And I was like trying to keep track of what was going on. And I also really wanted to know if that dead body that was Salma Hayek was
Starting point is 00:10:16 really her laying there or if they like just made a fake thing. You know that was not Salma Hayek. Yeah, there's no way in hell. No, she was like, you'll pay me double my quote if you want me to lay down for a while. Yeah, exactly. Although that, I have been a dead body in scenes
Starting point is 00:10:33 and I actually dig it. I love, it becomes very yoga-esque where you're just sort of lying there, being not present while other people have to act around you. It is so relaxing. I love it. I don't know if I can handle it. I had to be a dead body in Blade Trinity while the
Starting point is 00:10:50 camera's panning over me. It just blissed me out. I've only done it once, but it was a silly death, and I was killed, flattened by a barrel of wine, so they had built this bed underneath the floor.
Starting point is 00:11:06 So it was not comfortable. Wasn't it that murder or something? Yeah, it was Mapleworth murders. Oh yeah. That looked so funny. It was so, oh my God, she's so funny. Paula Pell is a frigging genius. And there's a shot from Mapleworth murders
Starting point is 00:11:21 where I don't want to get too graphic, but she has a certain sexual aid that kind of like vibrates and moves. And then at the end of one of the episodes, they just cut to the city street at night, and this thing is just crawling along on the street. I don't know why that made me laugh so hard. It's so funny. Like, just imagine the end of an episode of Murders He Wrote, and then it's just a mechanized dildo. Yeah. Gone too soon.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Oh, God. Anyway. Wait, was that CISO? No, that was Quibi. Quibi. Oh, yes. Rest in peace, Quibi. Rest in peace, Quibi.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I kind of forgot about Quibi. That was so fast. Isn't that wild? Quibi is not that old. Quibi came out in 2020. It's gone. That's actually shocking. Well, that was what was so messed up, right?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Because it was supposed to be for when you're on the go and literally no one was going anywhere. Yeah, and then they were like, stay home. And Quibi was like, oh, we won't let you watch it on a television. Gather around your phone in your living room. Yeah. So Quibi had to go.
Starting point is 00:12:20 And that was the last thing anyone wanted to do was be reminded that I'm literally, because it felt so post-apocalyptic. like I have just enough power on my phone. I can just watch a little bit. It really felt sort of dire and sad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, poor Quibi.
Starting point is 00:12:36 I'm so sad for Quibi. Okay, well. I have a question. What is your favorite Marvel property? And wait, what is Mow Doc? Oh my God. Did you just say Mow Doc? She read the pronunciation that we were given.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Mow Doc. As soon as I said it, I was like, that's wrong. Oh God. Mow Doc. That's wrong. Oh, God. No, Doug. My favorite Marvel thing is the Spider-Man movies.
Starting point is 00:13:10 They've been brilliant. Everyone loves Spider-Man. I think I do, too. It's the most relatable. It's the idea that, because I think a lot of us, especially if you're in showbiz, you relate because you remember those years you were struggling, and you also have all these personal problems, and in your mind, you're like, if I could just get rich and famous, if I could just get on a show, all these other problems go away. And then if you do start to make it in showbiz, it doesn't take care of your other problems.
Starting point is 00:13:35 You still have to work on yourself. So the idea that there's this kid with all these kid problems, and then he's suddenly a superhero, but that doesn't help you. Like, everyone can relate to that. Everyone can. You are right. It's really a superhero. But that doesn't help you. Like, everyone can relate to that. Everyone can. You are right. It's really well done, so. Yeah. So wait, Lauren, your favorite is Spider-Man?
Starting point is 00:13:51 I think it might be. Well, I really liked the one that we recently watched, Far From Home. Mm-hmm. Oh my God. Which I know people have mixed reactions to, but I like that one. I think I like that one too.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I loved it. Yeah. Okay, good. Again, confusing, because they're all like, gotta gotta get home we didn't have to be home and far from home like why are they why do they do that they're all like homecoming yes far from home right right it was too much away from home i think my favorite one is dr strange. The first one? Wow. I loved the first one. I've seen it twice now. Like, I watched it again.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I, like, really liked it. I think I liked it because of the beginning. I liked the struggle where he was, like, kind of arrogant, and then his little fingies weren't working. And then he was like, well, I got to figure out my fingies. And then I loved Endgame and Infinity War I think it was Scott Aukerman who was like you're going to be very impressed of how they
Starting point is 00:14:48 fold everything in and I was we did like that the blip I was glad they mentioned the blip for a little bit in the Eternals I love that blip yeah the blip was really exciting I feel like I'm forgetting some of the first ones we watched like I liked Ant-Man
Starting point is 00:15:03 Ant-Man was Oh yeah. I liked Ant-Man. Ant-Man was terrific. Yeah. That was fun. A hero who's not exactly a hero who does actually, I am struggling just to live a small life with his daughter. That's actually all he wants. I thought it was great.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And I love Paul Rudd. Yeah. Oh yeah. And we liked Thor Ragnarok. Yes, we did. That was the funniest one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I'm excited to see Thor now Thor. What's that one called? Thor now Thor? I don't know what this new one's called. Thor now Thor. Well, MODOK was a thing that I developed with my friend Jordan Blum, and he is a villain,
Starting point is 00:15:40 but he is this beloved lower tier villain who Jack Kirby clearly created when he was having a bad day. It feels like it was the end of the day and they went, we need a new villain really quick, draw something. And he went, screw it. And just drew this giant head with little arms. Here, he's got a big face, easy to draw.
Starting point is 00:15:59 I'm leaving. So the whole character feels like a temper tantrum. It feels like somebody having a nervous breakdown. And he's this guy who, he's Captain America's villain, hates Captain America, hates Iron Man, but also hates all the other villains because they don't rank him up with like a Doctor Doom or a Green Goblin in his mind.
Starting point is 00:16:19 He's like, I need to be, so he hates everything. He's just so put out and all of his, he wants to conquer the world, but it's for the pettiest reasons. And he's almost like the opposite of Spider-Man where he got with great power. Comes great responsibility. Yeah, comes great responsibility.
Starting point is 00:16:37 But with him, with great power, comes even greater pettiness. That sounds fun. I like it. I might watch it. I'm looking at him right now. I Googled his image, and he's a really funny-looking character.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It's like a head. What is he, a head? What is he in? He's a gigantic. They did an experiment on a guy. They did an experiment on this janitor named George Tarleton, and they made him super intelligent, but it grew his head gigantic.
Starting point is 00:17:06 And he could shoot beams and control people's thoughts. But the rest of his body is all shrunken and withered. So he sits in this little floating chair. This is funny. And it's just, again, it was Jack Kirby having a bad day. That's all it was. I love it. So Jack Kirby is the person who drew everything,
Starting point is 00:17:27 and is Stan Lee the person who came up with the ideas? Because I feel like people talk about Stan Lee a lot, and I feel like you're the only person who's really brought up Jack Kirby. Well, Jack Kirby was the guy that created, with Stan Lee, a lot of these characters he created himself. He was the one that came up with the idea of, I mean, you know, Hulk and Fantastic Four and Captain America. He and another guy, he created Captain America.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And on the first issue of Captain America, I think it came out in 1941, while we were, I don't think we'd entered the war yet. And on the first cover, Captain America is punching out Hitler. And at the time, a lot of Americans were like Hitler's not doing anything wrong he's just trying to you know and they and there were a lot of Nazis and so a bunch of Nazis showed up at the in the lobby of the building you know send that guy down here um they called up like hey we're we're American Nazis and we're with the American Bund and you know if you have something to say about Hitler,
Starting point is 00:18:25 why don't you come down here? And Jack Kirby, who's like, it was like five foot five and shaped like a fire hydrant, which is like, I'm coming down right now. He slammed the phone down and he was coming to, and they all fled. And if he had gone down there,
Starting point is 00:18:37 he would have murdered everybody. He sounds like he thought he was awesome. Yeah. Jack Kirby was awesome. So why doesn't Jack Kirby get as much recognition as Stan Lee? This is my theory, and I'm not a Stan Lee hater. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby were both sides of a necessary coin. Jack Kirby was the fountain of ideas that just came, you know, and he could just draw and come up with stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And Stan Lee was the other guy you need. He was the hype man. He was the guy who was willing to do anything possible to push these things, to get them on newsstands, hype, hype, hype, hype, hype. And so without the one, there isn't the other. It's almost like when people who get down on Mick Jagger, it's like, yes, Mick Jagger is a whatever he is, but without Mick Jagger, there's no Rolling Stones. He's the guy who keeps the books, who makes them all rich, who is the reason that Keith Richards can get drunk and fall out of a coconut tree and survive and be this legend is because Mick Jagger is making sure all the bills are paid. Oh, interesting. I like that about Mick Jagger. Yeah, I'm learning so much.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Look, he acts like this crazy, you know, this dancing whirlwind. But trust me, he has a degree in economics, I think, from Eaton. And he has made those people billionaires because he knows what the hell he's doing. That is awesome. That is fun. I just wish that I heard more about jack kirby like it like kind of it feels like he's been erased from like i mean like stan lee also has been in every movie up to yeah yeah well jack kirby yeah unfortunately passed away but now there's a lot of like a huge graphic novel just came out about him i feel like someone will do a biopic because he had a really interesting life.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And Eternals is just another one of his. Eternals was created at the time. Remember all those books? Chariots of the Gods? It was a huge craze in the 70s where everyone thought that ancient aliens came down and actually seeded humanity
Starting point is 00:20:42 and built the pyramids and they're the reason why we advanced. It all came off of like 2001. And so Jack Kirby was like, I like that idea. So his whole thing is the Eternals came down, and they're the ones who made humanity and superheroes and all this. So if he wanted to make a myth behind the myth, that was his whole idea with the Eternals.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Massive ideas that, again, I'm impressed and shocked that Marvel did that as a movie. Like, we're going to take the most esoteric, crazy, massive idea that Jack Kirby ever did, and we're going to turn it into a movie. Yeah, well, that was my favorite element of it, that I was like, is this true? Did this really happen?
Starting point is 00:21:22 I took a geology course in college I don't remember Icarus forming the Mariana Trench Patton you know so much
Starting point is 00:21:34 this is like I really don't no I it seems as such well you honestly I know a lot about stuff
Starting point is 00:21:41 you could be lying and I'd be like oh what if I made this whole thing up? Oh, anyone could come on here and tell us anything and we would never know if it was true or not That's the fun of the show I'd never double check and I'd repeat it to someone
Starting point is 00:21:53 incorrectly The other thing that's crazy about your journals is again, it is the biggest idea in the Marvel Universe and they gave it to a brilliant filmmaker whose main focus is very small, low-budget human stories. Chloe Zhao, you know, did The Rider and Nomadland and songs my brothers taught me.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Very, very handheld, almost near documentary-type films. So to go that leap to then, you're doing The Eternals. You're doing the thing that's even bigger than endgame go wait what i know it happens doesn't that feel like it happens to a lot of like indie directors where suddenly they're a huge movie and it's like wow like how do you even process the the change in what you're doing like it seems so seems so hard. I don't know. I feel like I'm lying, but I think the director of, oh shit, I can't remember the name of the movie,
Starting point is 00:22:50 but it's got that man from Top Gun and then that lady from Big Little Lies. Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman. Nope, none of those people. They're much younger. They're much, much younger. I think that director, it's like Summer or something.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I think that director directed the Fantastic Four. Miles Teller. It was a Miles Teller movie. Yeah. I could be lying. Am I lying? Well, he did a little indie superhero movie called Chronicle that was one of the best super movies ever made.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And it was so well done and so well received that they gave him Fantastic Four. So sometimes, you know, sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. I mean, the guy who did
Starting point is 00:23:31 the three Spider-Man movies did the most low budget, like, super indie movies before getting to do Spider-Man. They just absolutely gave those to him. They did a movie
Starting point is 00:23:44 with Kevin Bacon called Cop Car, which is the definition of a basically no-budget film. It's a great movie, but to look at that and go...
Starting point is 00:23:52 Is Cop Car about a car that is a cop and arrests people? It's a very weird superhero movie. It's a... They actually let a car join the police force.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Like, let's count the middleman. Why are we paying two people? We gotta pay, gotta drive it. Let's just pay the car. It's about two runaways who steal a cop car and the cop is looking for them and the cop is actually a criminal.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And it's so well done. It's so brilliant. That does sound good. But to watch it, you would watch it and go, that's our Spider-Man director. Right. So there must be some kind of weird instinct that they have with these guys.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Because that guy, those three Spider-Man movies are fantastic. Or fantastic. Yeah, yeah. But it'd be like watching Jim Jarmusch's Stranger Than Paradise and going, that's our next Star Wars director. That's Return of the Jedi.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Let's give it to him. Yeah, I mean, I thought she did an amazing job. That's our next Star Wars director. That's Return of the Jedi. Let's give it to him. Yeah. I mean, I thought she did an amazing job. I feel like it's a huge story. That feels like the hardest thing about it. It's like, how do you whittle this down to a mere two hours and 38 minutes? And I don't think they should have. I think it should have been longer.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I think it should have been two movies. I kind of agree with Nicole. I agree it should have been two movies. I kind of agree with Nicole. I agree it should have been two movies. Because it's such an epic premise, and I don't know if I like the movie. So, like, after I finish it, or midway through, I was like, I hate it. And then I finished it, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:25:15 no, I think I actually liked the idea, and I think I liked it, but it was just so condensed, and it was so, so dense with, like, information that I was like, no, boy, I think my head hurts a little bit. Maybe that's why I didn't like it. I don't know. I think it should have been two movies. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:32 All right. Should we get into our daily bugle? Go ahead. Oh, my God. I just remembered. You're talking about little indie directors doing big movies. David Lynch was brought in to maybe do Return of the Jedi, but he turned it down.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Whoa. Oh, interesting. That would have been cool. That would have been a different movie. Yeah, he met with Lucas and he's like, I don't, and also I think he was gun shy because he had done Dune, which was a huge disaster. But I think, I'm sure when he was talking to,
Starting point is 00:26:06 he was talking about these Ewoks. So there's a tall furry thing, but then there's a planet of small furry. I don't think I can do that. I'm gonna have to pass, George. Okay, well here's our news segment the Daily Bugle
Starting point is 00:26:27 we're giving a recap of what's going on in the MCU Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio will reunite as Daredevil and the Kingpin in the
Starting point is 00:26:35 Disney Plus series Echo I mean hell yes have we seen those characters we haven't seen those characters
Starting point is 00:26:44 on our I think we've watched no I haven't seen those characters. No. I haven't seen them. You guys have not. Yes, I have. I don't know. Echo is in Hawkeye and Kate Bishop. And Echo is a huge character in the comic. She's
Starting point is 00:26:57 deaf and she is like another version of Daredevil. And she was also huge because she was illustrated by an illustrator named David Mack, who is one of the most gorgeous comic book artists, uses like watercolors and oils. It's amazing art. Amazing art. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Okay. Maybe I'll watch. I don't know. The fourth Captain America movie. Wait, there's going to be another. Oh, it's gonna star Anthony Mackie oh yes
Starting point is 00:27:26 heck yeah aka okay as Sam Wilson aka Captain America it found its director Julius Ona who directed 2018 the 2018 film
Starting point is 00:27:34 The Cloverfield Paradox uh will take on the film that's interesting okay that's cool I saw some tweets um
Starting point is 00:27:43 Leah I feel like you're you would know about this. Like the tweets with Chris Evans where he was sort of correcting the Hollywood Reporter. Oh, yeah. So the Hollywood Reporter covered this and they chose for like a poll quote just for their Twitter engagement a very convoluted sentence that was like just really hesitant to admit that Sam Wilson is Captain America. Yeah, it was a super odd phrasing. Yeah. The role of Captain America will be played.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Within context in the article, it's fine, but isolated, it seems very racist. So Anthony Mackie is reprising his longtime Marvel character of Sam Wilson, but will not, however, portray Wilson's longtime alter ego and Captain America sidekick, Falcon. You could just say. It's like if you're doing a tweet, like you should make it short and clear what you're trying to say.
Starting point is 00:28:30 So then Chris Evans wrote under it, Anthony Mackie is Captain America. Yeah. And then they were like, totally. And by the way, the whole series, Falcon and the the winter soldier which is brilliant one of the best marvel series they've done is how sam becomes captain america and it's so brilliantly done and it's again really cool where they kind of point out that a lot of the stuff that we were cheering for in the avengers and Captain America is kind of BS. It's imperialism and it's fascism.
Starting point is 00:29:08 And they go to some really weird, dark places with that show that I couldn't believe that they did. And there was a Captain America before Captain America. There was a soldier that they tested out that worked, but he was African-American. So they didn't want to make him to be Captain America. So instead they just used him as a guinea pig to test the stuff,
Starting point is 00:29:28 and then they gave it to a white guy, and they talk about his story, and it is an amazing series. Oh, that's really interesting. And at the end of it, at the end episode, Sam becomes, Anthony Mackie becomes Captain America, and it's such a great episode. So the fact that Variety's like, oh, here's a weird twist.
Starting point is 00:29:47 It's not a weird twist. They spent six episodes setting that up, and it was set up in the comics 10 years ago. He's been Captain America for a decade. It was set up in Endgame. It's literally the end of Endgame. Right where he's holding the thing. Yeah, he goes, this is yours now.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Anyway, sorry,, this is yours now. Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah. Anyway, sorry, I went off on that little rant, but my God. No, no. Much deserved. I think it was needed. Yep. So yeah, they're doing another Captain America movie.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah. The next bit of news is that, this is huge news, everyone. We don't know anything that we're talking about. Alden Ironreich has joined the cast of Ironheart. I know Alden, but I don't know Ironheart. Ironheart is... Do you want me to say who Ironheart is? Please?
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. We've mentioned it a couple times. You'll remember. It'll come back to you. Oh, no, I Googled, and we are into this. This is a cool one. This is the 15-year-old. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:44 New Ironman. She Iron a cool one. This is the 15-year-old. Oh, yes. New Iron Man. She ironed the heart. Yes. Ironed the heart. Riri from the comics. Riri, who basically is this child prodigy that kind of laps Tony Stark. And Tony Stark kind of is like, oh, you're actually building better tech than me. How about you just take this over?
Starting point is 00:31:02 Like, it's this, yeah, you got this. And she's Iron Man now. That is very fun. I like that. It's fun and it's also start them young and you can keep them for years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years and years. Because, you know, if you start them too old,
Starting point is 00:31:17 they get too old and then you gotta kill them off. Yeah. Next bit of news, Marvel unveiled a first look at Jamila Jamil as Titania in She-Hulk Attorney at Law that's fine
Starting point is 00:31:30 see I'm glad you read that one because I almost said Titiana Titiana Titiana oh is it what did I say
Starting point is 00:31:38 no what you said you said it right Titania I did say it right yeah wow Titiana Titiana's funny Lauren. Wow. Titiana.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Titiana's funny, Lauren. I love it. Titiana, what are you doing here? Oh, God. She looks very cool. Yeah, yeah. Titania is a kind of villain, kind of hero, sort of walks the line in the comics, is married to Crusher Creel, the absorbing man.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And so I don't know if they'll have- You know so much. I'm sorry. This is so sad. Who is, wait, Crusher Man? Wait, who did you say? Crusher Creel. Crusher Creel.
Starting point is 00:32:15 The Absorbing Man. Yeah. He can, any substance he touches, he can turn into that substance if he needs to. Like a kitchen counter? Yes, kind of. He could, if you want to, if you want to,
Starting point is 00:32:29 his arm to look like beautiful Italian marble, there you go. Just have him touch your kitchen counter. I don't know why that's the first thing my brain went to, but I was like, that's fun. Maybe I'm tired. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:32:41 I could rest if I just become a kitchen countertop. There you go. People will cut things on me and that's all. Speaking of being tired, should we take a break countertop. There you go. People will cut things on me and that's all. Speaking of being tired, should we take a break? Yeah. Okay, we got to get into this plot summary. We for sure do.
Starting point is 00:33:01 All right, I'll start. The film opens with a scroll. I was already going, oh no. Yes, I was upset about it. I was pretty upset that they were asking me to read. I was like, is this Star Wars again? What's happening? Star Wars, exactly. It explains that the Eternals are immortal heroes from the planet Olympia who
Starting point is 00:33:17 serve the prime celestial Arishem and protect intelligent life from creatures called Deviants. And I did go back, I paused it and I read it and I took it in, everyone. So just out there,ants. And I did go back. I paused it, and I read it, and I took it in, everyone. So just out there, just know that I did my best. Right, right, right. The scroll then teases that Eternals had an unwavering faith in Arishem until one mission led by the prime Eternal Ajak, Salma Hayek, changed everything.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Ten Eternals. Wait, I thought there was nine. Arrive on Earth in the year 5000 BC. Ajak, Circe. Oh, oh akira i couldn't richard icarus sprite which i was like why is sprite a child that just seems like a mean thing to call a child sprite okay fafalos uh gigalamesh Makari, Kingo, why did I get this paragraph? And then Fina, in their spaceship called Damo, they land in Mesopotamia
Starting point is 00:34:12 and begin to eliminate the deviants. Okay, here's the thing. We go to Mesopotamia, and I could not believe how current those people looked. I was like, this is not, these are not ancient people. They look like they were just, like, found, you know, on, I don't know, a casting site or something.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I was like, they don't look old and ancient. Yeah. You mean just like the human beings under the makeup? Yeah. Like, I mean, like, yeah, yeah. They seemed present day. Yeah. I wanted them to look older.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And then in the present day London, which I love to see. I wish more of the film took place there. Cersei works as a museum curator with her boyfriend, Dane Whitman, Kit Harington. And they have a nice, cute flirtation. And after an earthquake interrupts a class they're teaching, Cersei and Dane go out for Dane's birthday where Sprite meets up with them. And on the way home, they're attacked by a deviant. Icarus, Cersei's ex, arrives to help them fight it off, and Cersei tells Dane what she is, and that her family has been in a holding pattern for centuries as the Eternals are not allowed to interfere
Starting point is 00:35:10 in human conflict unless it involves deviants. Icarus tells Cersei and Sprite that they need to find the others, and Cersei says they should start with Ajak. Now, does Dane... Dane takes this all in pretty like, well, he's like, oh, a deviant. Got it.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You're eternal. Got it. I love you. And that's what I'm looking for. Yeah. He's super accepting. And, um,
Starting point is 00:35:34 I thought he's a really, I liked his character a lot. Is, does he believe that Sprite is Cersei's child? I think he thought Sprite was like her ward, like her ward like her her do you know like she took care of sprite but not necessarily her child right i think i thought i was like what does he think is going on there were so many questions that i would have because also sprite turned into a woman which he didn't see but i mean still in the bar Sprite was looking like a woman, which I thought was also like not cool.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Like, I don't know. That seemed weird. Well, Sprite is like trapped as a child, but can make whatever Sprite wants to appear. So I'm like, why can't Sprite just project herself as a woman? Yeah, like always. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Okay. Well, flashback to ancient Babylon in 575 BC, where the Eternals continue to eliminate deviants. Ajak communicates with Arsham and keeps them updated on their progress. Arsham tells them not to become attached to humanity. At a party, the Eternals interact with humans in their own way, while Ajak encourages Icarus, ooh, I said it right, to find a life outside. I thought this was pretty insulting.
Starting point is 00:36:49 She was like, get a life outside of serving Arsham, and then tells Cersei how he feels. Then we see a montage of their millennia-long romance and marriage. This was for me. Yeah, I like that. I think this is the first Marvel movie where people fuck. Yeah. I think it is the first Marvel movie where people fuck yeah I think it is the first sex scene yeah they marketed
Starting point is 00:37:10 the shit out of it too they made a big deal about how there's sex in this movie they wanted you to know I liked it I did too and I thought that they're I liked seeing their relationship because she said they were together for like 5,000 years and I liked seeing their relationship because she said they were together for like 5,000 years.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And I liked seeing that. But I didn't, you know, I also was really enjoying the present day with Dane. So I was kind of like, how long are we going to stay here? We do go back and forth a bit. So we go back to the present day. Cersei arrives in South Dakota with Icarus and Sprite. And they find Ajak's body on the ground, apparently killed by a deviant who absorbed her healing powers. And the sphere inside Ajak that allows her to speak to Arsham emerges and attaches
Starting point is 00:37:47 itself to Cersei. I was like, so you are all, like, you're super powerful and you went to South Dakota? Like, of all places to live? Why are they there? And also, it reminded me of the Avengers, one of them,
Starting point is 00:38:04 where they're all in that house that Hawkeye lives in. Hawkeye, yeah, he lives out on a farm or something. Mm-hmm. It looked like that, and I was like, are they going there?
Starting point is 00:38:12 And then they're not. They're just in South Dakota. Well, maybe, you know, again, Chloe Zhao's cinematography is so amazing. It's showing the infinitude of even, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:24 basic everyday life. So maybe what they're saying there is that when you see the expanse of the universe, you crave a little patch of normalcy that you can just live on and actually be. Weirdly enough, it mirrors how when Thanos was done with the universe, he just wanted to live in a little house
Starting point is 00:38:43 and just not be connected with the everything. It's too much. Yeah. Mm hmm. Which is pretty funny to be like, I murdered half of the world. Let me get in a little cottage and make myself breakfast. I just want a little me time. Just a little me time to really think about what I've done.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Think about what I've done. So we flashback to 1521 when the Spanish invasion on the Aztec capital of uh-oh, 10, blah, with an attack on the last of the deviant. Thena glitches and attacks the others. Ajak offers to wipe Thena's memory, but you know,
Starting point is 00:39:23 Glisham volunteers to look over her. Gilgamesh. Glisham. Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh. Honestly, it's spelt the way it's pronounced. All right. Gilgamesh volunteers to look over her, which I thought was very nice.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Droog, am I saying that right? Droog? Droog. Droog. Frustrated with how he is not able to stop. No, Droog, that's right. Oh. Droog, am I saying that right? Droog? Droog. Frustrated with how he is unable to stop. Oh, well, Droog is right. Lauren corrected me, so thank you. I did help out with that one.
Starting point is 00:39:54 He's unable to stop the comp, leaves Ajak, releases the Eternals to go their own ways. I don't want to make enemies here, but Angelina Jolie, I really feel like before they started shooting, made the choice to say she was never going to try one time in any take. And I say that with like,
Starting point is 00:40:14 she has had an illustrious career. She's, I find her to be great. She's beautiful, but she does the least amount of acting I've ever seen in a movie. Okay. Listen, I'm going to argue the opposite here.
Starting point is 00:40:25 I think that was actually a pretty bold choice because they reveal later on, she's essentially the team's Hulk. Once she gets going, she starts killing everyone around her. So she is playing someone who is basically, she's living her life where she's just stepped on a landmine and she can't take her foot off of it. Like that's kind of how she's playing it. It was actually a very controlled
Starting point is 00:40:47 and you're right, it's a ballsy choice because a lot of people watch this and go, well she's not doing anything. She is sitting on an atomic bomb the whole time. Oh! I guess you're right because when she does start fighting she does like come alive. Okay. Wow. And then has to go like, someone needs to stop me.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Like someone you gotta stop me from Like someone, you better stop me. Yeah. I think that's why Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh is the one guy who can like shut her down and stop her from killing everybody. Mm-hmm. Wait,
Starting point is 00:41:12 which one's Gilgamesh? I felt like, happy to see her. I feel like we don't see her in things enough. And so I was also just like, she's so stunning. It's like my,
Starting point is 00:41:21 this is my toxic part of my brain that was like, she's so pretty. I don't care what she does. But then I just like liked looking at her. Wow. So I was kind of more on that tip. But yeah, I mean, I just like seeing her.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I was excited when I saw her in the opening because I didn't expect it. I had no idea who was in this. So it felt like kind of, I was like, whoa, she's in this? That seems crazy. And then I was like, do her kids like Marvel? Is this why she's here? Like it felt, because it did feel feel like why is she doing this but then when she did the fighting she was so good at the fighting she was really great at the end i really or maybe it was like i don't know i don't know at one point
Starting point is 00:41:55 when she fights it what's his name uh icarus icarus when she fights icarus i loved it when she was like i've always wanted to fight you. I was like, ooh, here we go. That made me happy. Wow. Yeah, oh, and then this next part was a part that I really enjoyed. So back in the present, Cersei, Sprite, and Icarus find Kingo, who's played by Kumail Nanjiani, shooting a Bollywood film. He joins them with his valet, Karun Hamish Patel.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I love that character. Love that character. God, it was great. So funny. So sweet. So sweet. And when he thought that Kumail was like a vampire and tried to stake him,
Starting point is 00:42:34 that made me laugh so hard. And I just love their dynamic. Me too. And I liked this character that he was like living his life being a movie star. He could do anything. And he's just like reinventing himself as different generations of the same family
Starting point is 00:42:48 acting in movies. And Kumail's character wants to shoot a documentary on the plane. So they find Gilgamesh and Thayna in Australia where a deviant has already attacked them. And the group reconnects over dinner. Cersei steps out and connects with Arsham and she learns that the Eternals have been lied to.
Starting point is 00:43:06 There is no planet Olympia. They're essentially robots whose minds are erased after they prepare a planet for the emergence of a new celestial which destroys said planet and the emergence
Starting point is 00:43:15 of a celestial called Tymut on Earth is about to happen in a few days. See, okay, this made me so mad. I said, okay, so this big old thing
Starting point is 00:43:24 made this mess, but then can't fix the mess that they made. So then it's like tormenting these Eternals who think that they're doing good, but then they're just cleaning up the mess that the thing made. I was very upset. Yeah. Well, I thought it was really interesting
Starting point is 00:43:40 where you think that, oh, I'm on the, it's a tale as old as time. I've been tricked into this mission that I am convinced is this beautiful, holy chore, but it's actually, I'm serving a very small, elite, powerful group, and it's wiping out these innocents that they've made us fall in love with, basically.
Starting point is 00:44:00 They sold this to us as, you're saving humanity, but no, you're not. And then, so they're brought to that moment of moral saving humanity and you're but no you're not and then so there's they're brought to that moment of moral choice which i thought was actually really cool you know patten you keep changing my mind on things well i'm that's why like i thought kumail's character um kingo's story was kind of weirdly um uh poignant because it's almost like he felt like i've been trying to save these people for so long and i realized i can't but i can't at least entertain them and give them a few moments of happiness before they're like like there is something really beautiful about that that i'm gonna make movies and just make them happy like there's there's
Starting point is 00:44:38 value in that i was like okay yeah i i like that part when he was like, kind of like, I don't know. A lot of people depend on me. I need to finish it. And I think like some people watching it'd be like, oh, well, like an entitled actor or whatever. But I was like, I got that, that he was like, I can make people happy and I can help people that way. And I thought it was, I thought that was like a really interesting part of the movie. I liked that part. Me too. And then I liked the private plane. I part of the movie. I liked that part. Me too.
Starting point is 00:45:05 And then I liked the private plane. I was like, when do I get one? So, disillusioned, they find Druig in the Amazon village he has ruled over since the 16th century and asks if he can use his powers to put Tiamat to sleep. At night, the village is ambushed by deviants. To everyone's surprise, Cersei turns a deviant into a tree, something she has never been able to do sentient beings before. But deviant crow, Bill Sarsgaard.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I didn't know that was Bill. Good old Bill. He, I feel like, has made a career. Wait, Bill Sarsgaard. Is he the clown in It, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. he I feel like has made a career wait Bill Sargis is he the he's the clown in It right yeah
Starting point is 00:45:48 yeah he's he's made a career just like being not himself you know what I mean I know it's so interesting
Starting point is 00:45:56 how do you get into that how do you get cast in that way yeah like it's like the other guy who obviously I can't remember his name right now
Starting point is 00:46:03 Andy Serkis yes like how does that become your thing like I'm so curious about that Like, it's like the other guy who obviously I can't remember his name right now. Andy Serkis? Yes. Like, how does that become your thing? Like, I'm so curious about that. Okay, well, so Cersei and Icarus go to Chicago where Fastos lives with his new husband and young son. I loved this whole family dynamic. A flashback shows that Fastos gave up on humanity after the technology he gave them ultimately led to the creation of the atom bomb. And back in the present,
Starting point is 00:46:25 his husband convinces him to go with Cersei and Icarus and fight for humanity if he can. I thought that was so sweet. And then they played that song, like that's sort of like 50s song about the world is ending if he's not here or whatever. It was just so cute. I thought that was great.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I also really liked that all of the Eternals kind of had to be convinced by somebody else because they had just given up. And I really, I liked it. I liked it a lot that it's like, and it's not like an unwilling hero. It's just like, I've done so much. I've been around so long. I can't do anything else. And someone's like, no, I see this in you. And I think you can do a little bit more. So I liked it. Yeah. Yeah, and I could totally imagine being in their position and being like,
Starting point is 00:47:07 I guess I'm a robot who has no memories. Why am I even bothering with this? Yeah. So the group goes to Iraq where Damo is half buried and then they find Makary who has stayed in the ship since the Eternals split up
Starting point is 00:47:19 and has become a hoarder of human artifacts. Vathos proposes they channel their energy into Druidic to form a uni-mind so he can take control of the Celestial and stop the Emergence. But not everyone's
Starting point is 00:47:32 on board with the plan. Flashback to a few days before the Deviant attack in London. Icarus goes to visit Ajak in South Dakota. She tells him that the Emergence is set to begin
Starting point is 00:47:42 and that the blip, Nicole. I was so excited. Specifically how the Avengers fought for humanity caused her to lose her faith in Arishem. And Icarus then takes her to Alaska where deviants have emerged from ice due to global warming and throws her down to them.
Starting point is 00:47:57 He takes her body back to her home, staging it as a random attack. This was a fucking twist. I didn't see it coming. was like icarus is nasty and bad and i was so mad when he pushed her i gasped audibly i i really didn't like it yeah so yeah the pushing we've seen a few people get pushed off cliffs and i always think like really yeah i gotta say lauren you fall off a cliff in The Wrong Missing. And to this day, it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:48:29 It's so funny. Especially your reaction afterward when your face is mushed into the goddamn sand and you're giggling. It was the most psychotic. That made me laugh so hard. Thank you. That you're giggling afterward. Oh, my God. And my last day of shooting,
Starting point is 00:48:49 I had to get inside of like a spinning, sort of like get strapped in with my arms and legs and like a circle thing, like a gyrosphere or whatever it's called. And then be spun around in circles so they could capture my face as I'm flipping over in the tree. And I almost threw up and it was really,
Starting point is 00:49:01 I was like, I thought I was done shooting and they were like, one more. Oh my God. Ooh, wait. That's truly, that's insane. And I didn't realize that's how they would shoot that. You'd think in this day and age, they'd have something a little bit easier.
Starting point is 00:49:16 No, it was literally that. And that was really intense, but I did it. Yeah. Take that De Niro. Yeah. yeah take that to Nero so back in the domo am I saying that right who knows they send
Starting point is 00:49:34 Makari to find Titamat Icarus tells him that he cannot go along with their plan and that he's known the mission for centuries they had to do so he killed Ajak he leaves and Sprite goes with him. Kingo, unable to choose a side, leaves with Karan. The remaining Eternals get to work on a plan
Starting point is 00:49:51 to stop the emergence, and Fastos uses the sphere inside Circe to amplify their powers so they can create a Unamind. They arrive in the Indian Ocean where Druig attempts to connect with Tiamat, but Icarus attacks him. Makari, Thena, and Fastos take on Icarus so that Circe can try to use her powers with Tiamat, but Icarus attacks him. Makkari, Thayna, and Phastos take on Icarus
Starting point is 00:50:05 so that Cersei can try to use her powers on Tiamat instead. And then Sprite attacks Cersei by projecting an illusion of Ajak and stabbing her in the back. Druid knocks her out and Cersei rejoins the group. And by the way, Cersei's my favorite character. I haven't said that yet. I like Cersei too.
Starting point is 00:50:20 And I feel like they said her name so much in the movie. And I was like, is this for me? So I pronounced this right during the podcast. The actress that plays her, Gemma. Gemma Chan. Gemma Chan. Is such a movie star. She's great.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Good Lord. I know. Of course they made her a character. Yeah, she's amazing. She's really great. I love her. Meanwhile, Crow fights Dina. He pretends to be Gilgamesh.
Starting point is 00:50:49 There you go. What? Close enough. Okay, but she resists and overpowers him. Thastos restrains Icarus, but he escapes and reaches Cersei. He almost kills her, but he can't bring himself to do it. The Uni-Mind activates and amplifies Cersei's powers so she can turn the celestial into marble. Guilt-ridden, Icarus flies into the sun.
Starting point is 00:51:09 That's the one thing I know about Icarus. He flew too close to the sun. Oh, really? Didn't fly into it, but he flew too close. Well, that's like ancient Greek mythology, not this, but it's the same name. So Cersei uses a lot from Greek mythology. But they're also suggesting that because these things
Starting point is 00:51:28 have been there eternally, their names have now fallen into our folklore. So Icarus is from Greek myth. Gilgamesh is from Babylonian myth. So there's all the epic of Gilgamesh. So they're like, oh, that's where we got the names of these stories. People encountered these beings, couldn't process it, so wrote stories about it instead.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Mm-hmm. Ah, yeah. Interesting. It is wild, though, because then there's also Thor and Hercules and Odin who are just guys. Mm-hmm. So it's an interesting combination of real person and person turned into myth. Oh, that's a good way to think. I never thought of it that way.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah, there's just somewhere. Well, there's the Pantheon, and then there's, well, they influence the Pantheon, that's a good way to think. I never thought of it that way. Yeah, there's just somewhere. Well, there's the Pantheon, and then there's, well, they influence the Pantheon, but they're not actually those people. Yeah. I didn't want to spoil Love and Thunder. I almost spoiled Love and Thunder, but I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:52:15 You'll see. Oh, yeah. You couldn't spoil it. You know I won't remember a thing. But someone out there might. So Cersei uses the last of her amplified power to turn Sprite into a human so that she can experience what it's like to grow up. And two weeks later, Thana, Makkari, and Druig depart in the Domo to recruit more Eternals
Starting point is 00:52:35 to their cause. In London, Kingo takes Sprite to start school. All seems well, but while Cersei is out in the park with Dane, she's abducted by Arsham. The Celestial tells her, Ph Faustus and Kingo that he wants to evaluate their memories for judgment. And then we have a mid-credits scene. Oh, please go ahead. No, no, no. I thought it was wild that he, like, raptured them up.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And then I was like, this feels like a blip again. And I was happy. Nicole really loves the blip. She wants the blip to happen. She loves that blip. It's just so interesting to me. Yeah. I was going to bounce through these mid and post-credits scenes so we can just chill right ahead.
Starting point is 00:53:10 So in a mid-credits scene, Dane returns to the museum and opens a case containing an ancient enchanted sword belonging to his ancestors, but is caught off guard by a mysterious off-screen voice, Blade, played by Mahershala Ali, as we said. And in a post-credits scene, the three Eternals on the Domo notice that Cersei, Phastos, and Kingo are missing. They are then visited by Eros, Harry Styles, Thanos' brother, and his troll companion,
Starting point is 00:53:31 Pip, Patton Oswalt, who's here with us today. And Eros reveals that he knows where they can find their allies. And that's our movie. That's the movie.
Starting point is 00:53:41 A lot happens. Okay, here's a question about Eros. All right. So Eros alright so Eros is Thanos' brother is he like chill with what Thanos did
Starting point is 00:53:51 or do they not speak no he he is estranged from Thanos Thanos was a weird like
Starting point is 00:53:56 was born into that family and then rejected them and went off to become it's like it's like the black sheep of the family in this case the purple sheep
Starting point is 00:54:04 but he went off to become the it's like the black sheep of the family. In this case, the purple sheep. But he went off to become the mad god, the mad titan. And then Eros is Star Fox. That was his name in the comics, Star Fox. Oh. Yeah, because the dude's a fox. I get that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yeah. So then I assume that he and Pip the Troll, Pip the Troll was a long time ago, was an Eternal. I think he still is, but something happened where he was turned into this weird troll-like looking thing. And he's actually come to accept it. He has that stein that he carries.
Starting point is 00:54:38 He can make any alcohol appear in it. And he can do like weird spells and stuff like that. And he basically just spends his life crocked trying to help out good people he's a chaotic good drunk for that role did you have to physically do anything
Starting point is 00:54:56 with like a green screen or was it all just audio like voiceover or how did you do it I wore I had to wear a motion capture suit and then I had to sit on a one of those office chairs with the wheels on it. They took the back off so I could zip around so my eyeline would be right. And, but that, there's, there's,
Starting point is 00:55:11 there's photos of me and of Harry Styles and I coming down that hallway and I'm in my emotion, with that thing that, you know, films my face with all the dots on it. And, you know, it was, it was Angelina and Harry and I, and, and, and the rest of them were all in that ship talking. And there you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:29 That's fun. So, yeah, I was I think I posted a picture on Twitter. I'll send I'll send one to one of you guys. You can post it for this thing. But it's me like in my little thing. I love that. That's so cool. I have a question that I'm sure everyone has has asked.
Starting point is 00:55:43 What's Angelina Jolie like? Is she down to earth and nice and kind? Does she smile? I love that. That's cool. That's so cool. I have a question that I'm sure everyone has asked. What's Angelina Jolie like? Is she down to earth and nice and kind? Does she smile? She is very nice, very down to earth. And I'm not making anything up. She was very chill, talking to everybody, talking about their experience. Because they filmed this thing all over the world. So they were in some really odd places where she was like, we were in this place.
Starting point is 00:56:04 I think it was either in Africa or South America, but it's like all the design, all the decor had frozen in like the early 80s. So it's like you're in this new wave paradise. It was so odd. I forgot the place she was describing, but she's just, you know, she's a very curious world traveler and very chill to talk to. She would just, and in between takes, she just sat in the chairs with everyone. She wasn't like,
Starting point is 00:56:28 I'll be in my trailer. Let me know when everyone else is on. Like, she would just sit there and have a granola bar and just talk about everything. I was really hoping
Starting point is 00:56:36 you were like, she backhanded me and I was on that chair and I wheeled right off a cliff. No, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:56:42 no, no, no, no. She could not have been cooler. Very chill. So, no, no, no, no, no, no. I love that. She could not have been cooler. Yeah. Very chill. So Eternals was,
Starting point is 00:56:50 this is our awards section. It was not up for any major awards, but it was given the seal of authentic representation from the Ruderman Family Foundation for the portrayal of Makari. The seal is given to films and television series that feature actors with disabilities
Starting point is 00:57:03 and substantial speaking roles. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought that Macari, the way that they handled Macari, again, it really played to Chloe Zhao's strengths because she's really good. If you watch The Rider, she's so good at filming faces and getting faces that are telling you what the person's thinking without talking. So that's why I think the scenes with Macari are very memorable and really pop. Yeah. Because Chloe knows how to capture that.
Starting point is 00:57:30 And the woman who played her, Lauren Ridloff, she's very, very good. I thought she did a wonderful job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Amazing. The film also won in the Outstanding film category at the GLAAD Media Awards which is great oh
Starting point is 00:57:47 there you go it grossed $402.1 million at the box office and had the second largest opening weekend during the COVID pandemic for a Hollywood film
Starting point is 00:57:57 guys that's the Oswalt bump that's the Oswalt bump in action right there once it gets out man you can just add another couple other zeros at the end of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:09 And the film saw mixed reviews from critics. Justin Chang of the LA Times sums up the mixed critical consensus by noting that Eternals is clearly one of the more interesting movies Marvel will ever make and hopefully the least interesting one Chloe Zhao will ever make.
Starting point is 00:58:22 So that's an interesting take. I mean, I have seen No Bad Land, and I loved it. She's got a very interesting mind. Wait till you see The Rider. Go seek out The Rider. Oh my god. Movie's amazing. It's called The Rider. Just go see it. You'll love
Starting point is 00:58:38 it. Yeah. We need to take another break. Okay. And we're back. Let's hop into some trivia. So Lauren Ridloff's husband gave the main cast lessons in American Sign Language. Cool. I want to add something to that.
Starting point is 00:59:15 He also consulted on Hawkeye for Echo. Oh, I love that. And I assume we'll do the Echo series as well. Yeah. And he was there. She was there that day. So I would talk with her. No, no. I don't know if he was there, but she had an interpreter, but we could talk. We were talking about life on the road and movie stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:31 She's a really smart, interesting person. Cool. Chloe Zhao mostly skipped using green screen sets for the movie, opting for natural locations and outdoor lighting. Yep. According to IMDB.com, the beach battle scene proved to be challenging for this reason and the incoming tide interrupted filming
Starting point is 00:59:48 and the crew even lost equipment that sometimes floated back out to them days later. Well, at least the ocean gave it back. The ocean returned it. Oh, Mother Ocean. The circular designs
Starting point is 01:00:03 on the Eternals outfits were inspired by astrolabs ancient stargazing devices it reminded me of dr strangey things so i like oh yeah yeah it's a little this is the first mcu film since 2008 the incredible hulk to receive a pg-13 rating for sexual content and violence. Oh, interesting. Well, there's a long list of countries where Eternals has yet to be released. Oh, interesting. China, because of Khloe's political statements
Starting point is 01:00:31 about growing up in mainland China. Saudi Arabia, Balran, and Oman, due to the scenes of Faustus and his husband, which Disney refused to cut. And Kuwait and Qatar.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Good for Disney. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Because of the depiction of gods or prophets on film. Interesting. Wow. Wow. So you can't actually show the...
Starting point is 01:00:54 So hang on. Does that mean that Thor, Love and Thunder can't be released over there because Zeus is in it? I know that they're refusing to release it in a couple places also for gay relationships. But I don't know about the God stuff. Interesting. All right. One little trivia bit that you can tell us about is that according to CBR.com, Patton Oswalt has confirmed that he's ready for his eternal spinoff with Harry Styles.
Starting point is 01:01:24 And there's a whole article. Patton Oswalt has confirmed that he's ready for his eternal spinoff with Harry Styles. And there's a whole article. I was saying that that was a prayer. I would absolutely do a spinoff with Harry Styles. But I don't think that the adventures of Pip and Star Fox, that's going to be, we'll be folded into the bigger Eternals narrative. I hope. I would watch it. All right,
Starting point is 01:01:46 come on, man. Why not? Yeah. Here's a segment called, is Chris in this? Was a Chris in this film? Honestly,
Starting point is 01:01:57 no. Mm-hmm. No, not a single, not a single Chris. Patton, is there any Chris, Christine,
Starting point is 01:02:04 Kristen, or somebody that you would put in this film? It could be anybody in the world. I would either put Chris Maloney as a deviant. He'd have a blast playing a deviant. Or Christina Ricci as like a weird, somewhere halfway between devant and Eternal. She's this, you know, beautiful next,
Starting point is 01:02:30 the next generation of what these things could be like. She's the solution to all this fighting. She'd be amazing. I would love that. She's so cool. Me too. She looks like a special effect. She looks so gorgeous and otherworldly
Starting point is 01:02:42 that she'd be amazing as that. Yeah. That's the most thought out answer I think we've had this whole time. We almost always just say Christine Baranski. Yeah. Oh, you Broadway bitches. You just want your Baranski.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Where's our Baranski? Our other segment is, is kissing this? You better believe there was handholding and kissing. Yes, And a little penetration. I liked it. I liked it too.
Starting point is 01:03:15 It was great. Just a little penetration. Just a little bit. My one quibble with the final battle, this is my one quibble, is why I thought when Kumail's character went away, I can't deal with this, I'm leaving. I thought he would have his Han Solo showing up at the last minute to help, like his change of heart moment, coming back and fighting.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Yeah. Yeah. I think I was expecting that too. Yeah. But I liked his character a lot. I didn't know anything about it. Me too. And that was. Yeah. But I liked his character a lot. I didn't know anything about it. Me too. And that was really fun.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And it's like, I've known Kumail as a stand-up since I was like 19 in Chicago watching him on stage and so it's so cool to see him in this
Starting point is 01:03:53 and be like, wow, he's a freaking superhero. Yeah, exactly. Okay, now time for our segment Five Stark Industries where we read positive reviews
Starting point is 01:04:02 of our own podcast. Ooh. This one is called, it's from El Rey, right? And it's called Absolutely Cackling. I'm cackling like a psycho on the bus listening to y'all talk about the Hulk dildos. My bus mates are giving me looks and I don't care. You guys are the best. Can't wait for next week.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Aw, thanks. That was nice. In addition to Apple reviews of newcom newcomers we're also reading reviews from letterbox if you don't know what that is i'm not explaining it so here's a letterbox review by ellie critics this film is an elegant allegory of heroism the god complex and climate change me cowboy sama hayek yeehaw bitch that's funny to me okay um what is patent what is your one sentence review of this film and what is your star rating well my star rating is three and a half uh for kumail not coming back at the end
Starting point is 01:05:01 okay and my um my one sentence, oh my gosh. Oh, my one sentence is, the gods must be crazy. Oh, that's good. That's my one sentence. Yeah. Lauren. I'm being clever, sorry. I like it. I would give this film,
Starting point is 01:05:20 I think I would give it three and a half as well. That feels solid to me. I enjoyed a lot of it. I think I would give it three and a half as well. That feels solid to me. I enjoyed a lot of it. But so my one sentence review is more London, more Dane. Give me the real relationships in 2021.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I'm going to give it three stars. Three stars. My one sentence review is, boy, oh boy, too much information. And also, can we make these names a little easier? Well, okay. Please go rate us on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts. And thank you for listening this whole season because it is our finale. So thank you everyone for being here with us
Starting point is 01:06:07 as we journeyed through the Marvel Cinematic Universe. And Patton, thank you for joining us. Is there anything you would like to plug? Yes, thank you so much. My movie, I Love My Dad, will be in theaters Friday, August 5th. Also, you can hear me on the new season of The Sandman on Netflix, also premiering August 5th.
Starting point is 01:06:27 My voice will be in that. I play Matthew the Raven. Big day. That is delightful. I love it. Thank you. I'm excited to see your new movie. It was written by James Mastroianni, right?
Starting point is 01:06:40 Am I? No. Morissini. My God. That's our friend. That's our friend. Yeah. Oh, yes. Oh my God. That's our friend. That's our friend. Yeah. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Okay. Yeah, I got, oh, that was just me getting confused because I was trying to remember. That wasn't me reading. But honestly, reading it, I'd probably get it wrong as well. But I'm excited to see it. Anyway. I think you'll really, really like it. It's pretty brilliant.
Starting point is 01:07:03 We'll be back next week with a very special live episode filmed at Comic-Con in San Diego covering Thor, Love and Thunder. See you then. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Thank you. so that was a Hidgum Original.

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