Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Meet The Browns - TV Series (w/ Dulcé Sloan)

Episode Date: April 27, 2021

Nicole and Lauren are joined by comedian and actress Dulcé Sloan (The Daily Show with Trevor Noah, The Great North) to discuss her experience working on an episode of Tyler Perry's&nbsp...;Meet the Browns. Follow Dulcé on Instagram and Twitter @dulcesloan, and tune into The Great North airing Sundays on FOX. Next Week's Watchlist: Madea's Big Happy Family (2011)Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what Tyler Perry hit they should check out next.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:22 I'm Nicole Byer. I'm Lauren Lapkus. And this is the seventh episode of the third season of Newcomers. It's actually, it's going too fast. Yeah, I can't believe it's the seventh episode. Theoretically, we only have three more episodes. I'm not done watching. I'm not done. I'm not done. We're not done. It's not going to end at 10. That's absolutely the wrong choice. I, yeah, I just, I can't. It's, this is, okay. So today we experienced two episodes of one sitcom, which you would never have known if you weren't told it was the same sitcom.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Totally. So it's Meet the Browns. It aired on TBS for five whole seasons from 2009 to 2011 yeah we watched the pilot which is called meet brown meadows and season 4 episode 14 meet the trainer and we'll be getting into a bunch more movies and tv shows in the weeks to come and if you want to watch meet the browns it's on dvd or you can watch it on amazon apple tv and bet plus and obviously we're going to spoil the episodes for you so watch first if you want watch it on Amazon, Apple TV, and BET+. And obviously, we're going to spoil the episodes for you, so watch first if you want to be on the same page.
Starting point is 00:02:29 But Nicole, before we bring out our guest, what were your initial thoughts? This was our first time watching a sitcom of his, right? Yes. Very first time seeing Meet the Browns or any Tyler Perry sitcom. I had to make sure I was watching the pilot because I was like, I was like, they jump right in this. I don't know who anyone is. I don't know who anyone is to each
Starting point is 00:02:54 other. And then there's a hundred guest stars. I was like, well, who's actually on the show? And then we watched the later episode. I was like, well, two prominent people from the pilot aren't even in this episode. No. And I also was like, is the show about him running an old folks home? Or was that just like a hijinks thing from the first? I was like, I think it's because then we cut to season four. He's fully like doing totally different things. So it's like, yeah, I mean, I have a lot lot of questions but i also found it very funny i will say that the audience was going crazy now i want to know if that was a real audience or not but the laughs were big and so and they were back to back to there was no air for anything there's no air and sometimes some of the jokes weren't even like fully you weren't sure if someone was being funny
Starting point is 00:03:42 or not yes and then it was like hardcore laugh. And I was like, okay. Like there was, I can't remember what the joke was. It was like her breath smells like feet or whatever. And that got a huge laugh. But then earlier, this woman was like, the old folks home is on fire. And they talked about this fire in present tense. And I was like, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:04:01 Like, that's funny. They were like, we have to get them out of there right now and then like a hundred people walk in i but also then i mean we'll get into all of it but then like mr brown was being very funny talking about each one of them and who they looked like and i was like was this improv it was like really good a lot of people are improvising on the show it also feels like a lot of takes were the first and only and And some of the lines just weren't there. But they said we must persevere. I'm hoping that
Starting point is 00:04:30 our guests can tell us if those theories are true today. We have a very fun guest. We're so excited. It's Dulce Sloan. Hello, friends. Dulce is a comedian. She's an actress that corresponded on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. She also voices Honey Bee on Fox's new animated series, The Great North, which premiered in February.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And she was in one of these episodes, Beat the Trainer. So we have to hear everything that happened. Welcome Dulce. Hello, friends. Hi, Dulce. I gotta know. Did you know of Tyler Perry's works before you got to do the episode? Oh, absolutely. Now, one, this to do the episode? Oh, absolutely. Now, one, this was the fourth season.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Oh, yes. Two, House of Pain was on at the same time. Mm. Oh. Also, he was doing the stage plays still. Oh, yes, yes, yes. So it was like, Medea goes to, I don't know, the moon. Like, it was just a lot of...
Starting point is 00:05:24 I would watch it I would honestly love that honestly me and she's on the moon me and Baron Vaughn were trying to make plans to go see the Boo Madea Halloween movie and we couldn't coordinate
Starting point is 00:05:40 our schedules because I was like I have to see how Tyler Perry does a scary movie because it's going to be fucking hilarious but I found out i didn't know anything about him until a few years before because his plays were so popular you could like you went to go see these plays like the atlanta civic center like oh really yes these were huge. Wow. And he was traveling. Like, basically, it's like wherever, like before Cat Williams went mainstream, it was like wherever Cat Williams was going. So it was like Atlanta Civic Center, your New Orleans Civic Center, basically all the cities named in a James Brown song. So wherever the blacks are, that's what Tyler Perry is bringing.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I think it's called the Chitlin circuit, which I don't know if that's a nice thing to say. I didn't want to say it. I didn't want to say it. That's what it's called. It's what it's called. I don't know if we call it that or if that's the name it was given. And I've yet to be able to figure that out. So I don't like use the term.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Cause I'm like, did we say Chitlin circuit or did they say Chitlin circuit? And Lauren's like, I won't say anything. I simply won't say the words. And that's where that'll be. If Lauren said it, it would be Chitterling Circuit. That's where. You should wait until I say Hallelujah.
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's not good. It makes me laugh so hard. But like I had gone to, my mom took me to go see. So when he started getting, like after like Dire of a Mad Black Woman came out, which is actually a really good movie. We liked it. And honestly, the amount of white women that were coming up to me after that movie came out and telling me, make sure your husband always has a bank. Make sure you have a bank account your husband never knows about. No.
Starting point is 00:07:22 That movie triggered the hell out of white women. Like they were like i went through this i don't want to stop you i was in fucking college this woman was like my husband did the exact same thing that's so funny but i say a black lady i have to tell her things yes i got it i was like girl i've never i'm in college ma'am i'm hoping for this life um truly but yeah so like you could go to because a girl i was friends with she had like the medea box set oh i love it fancy so this was before tyler perry went mainstream before the cbs deal and they were selling dvd box sets of his plays at the shows so she had like four or five of the plays really fucking gamed the system yes
Starting point is 00:08:08 he was doing these plays and then was like just give me a little bit of money and i'll prove to you that i have the audience because it's like if you sell out a fucking civic center these people they see your name you name everything tyler perry presents or whatever they're gonna follow i mean yes wow people did not realize his follow like these white folks had no idea his following was so huge because when i saw him at when my mom took me to go see medea goes to jail um it was at the fox theater in atlanta so he had you know graduated from the civics and he's in the fox theater people like the only other time i've been the i was like i did like a show with trevor in atlanta at the fox theater yeah so this wasn't like you know some little rinky dink i mean not the civic center's rinky dink but these are big
Starting point is 00:08:54 venues you know this isn't like a church auditorium this man has used venues and so um because Clayton English was a recurring character on House of Pain, and that was like 2007. Also, I found out when I was doing my podcast that Tyler Perry has the record for it's the black sitcom that's run that's run the longest. Which one? House of Pain. How long has that been on? It beat. No, i had the most episodes it beat the jeffersons by one episode just one he's petty he's petty he's like i'm sure someone's like you're really close to breaking that record he's like not only will i break it i'm just gonna
Starting point is 00:09:38 do one one more just one more just one more funny but the thing is like because he had a like house of pain went to syndication in like three years because um they would air two new episodes every night so like every so like the show came out on wednesday it was two new episodes that night he is so prolific i mean honestly well that's what i want to hear about with your experience with being on the show was how fast it worked because we talked about acrimony last week or maybe a couple weeks ago and it was shot in eight days a full movie so i'm like well a sitcom he's like we do this in two hours like there's like gotta be no so they shot the whole episode in a day uh which most sitcoms we know was a week. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:25 In a day? Just to tell people if they don't know. So typically how a multicam sitcom would work is you'd come in on Monday for a table read. You might have a rehearsal. You'll have a couple days of rehearsal. And then on the Thursday, you might shoot a couple scenes that need like a car
Starting point is 00:10:40 or something that's not on a set or that the audience wouldn't be able to see from where they're sitting. And then on the final day, if it's on a Friday, you'd have a full audience. And that's going to be a whole day of work of just getting ready for the show and then a five to six hour taping, maybe longer.
Starting point is 00:10:55 They do three takes and move on. Three takes and move on. There's something kind of amazing about it because from my experience on multicams, like from Monday to Friday, the script is totally different. Like they've done so many rewrites. They,
Starting point is 00:11:14 it's almost like they've heard it too many times. Maybe Tyler's theory is we don't need to hear it more than once. It's funny on the first time. Let's just go for it. I will say this. I think he should do it a second time. I think it's like, maybe just go through it one more time just one more just one more another set of eyes or something well bring light to to so you know when you watch the pilot and it's like
Starting point is 00:11:36 you already know who all the characters are yes but you but like so the Browns were our was another series of plays. Oh, I did. So because I did they have a movie as well about the Browns or was it just the play? I think it's like the Browns play is available to watch. So is Tyler Perry in the Browns play? I think he comes on, but it's not like I think he's not a consistent. It's not like Madea. Yeah. The Browns plays. I think it's because like because that it's not like Madea. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:05 With the Browns plays, I think it's because like, because that's why when like the episode starts, it's like, how do everybody already know who everybody is? Yeah. It was like kind of wild. Well, so that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:17 So then you're saying that like people already knew the characters from the play. So that's why they didn't feel the need to establish everything for maybe someone like me, who's just turning it on in TBS for the first from the play. So that's why they didn't feel the need to establish everything for maybe someone like me, who's just turning it on and TBS for the first time. Right. Cause there was a 2008 movie called meet the Browns. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And he, Mr. Brown casually mentions Medea at one point, I believe in the pilot. Yes. I think he does. Cause he knows Medea. It's just very funny to be like,
Starting point is 00:12:42 well, I'll give this Medea or whatever. Wait a minute i'm looking at tyler perry's house of pain not to change the subject okay and it has nine seasons yeah and season eight aired from october 2011 to august 2012 and season nine has aired from september 2020 to january 2021 so he brought it the fuck back. This man! I love him! This is truly... Like, imagine having your show canceled in
Starting point is 00:13:10 2012, and then eight years later, Tyler Perry's like, that's what you thought. And brought it back. In the pandemic, too. So yeah, the plays... So the Meet the Brown plays started in 2004, and then... So he wrote the play in 2004.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It looks like it was published in 2005. And then there's the TV show and there's the movie in 2008. And then the TV show in 2009. So it was, yeah, because I just want to get the dates right. So it was plays first, then it was a movie, then it was a TV show. And then what's even more funny is that david man who plays brown and cora who plays his daughter they're actually a married couple wait which one's cora oh is the one who she's the um she's a light-skinned heavyset woman
Starting point is 00:13:58 i thought she was his wife i could not figure out their relationship for the life of me because he's supposed to be older he's older so on the show i believe he's her father like a long last dad situation i will say that was unclear in the pilot yeah yeah that was uh fully fully not clear at all that's really funny though in medea's class reunion is a reveal that brown is actually cora's mother is cora's father so he's taking his new daughter into the family so oh it's yeah so they're actually a married couple david and tamil a man and um also if you want to hear her gospel albums are uh amazing oh my god i listen to her all the time. She has a remake of Take Me to the King. Dude.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I've seen her on something. Oh, yeah. I've seen her sing. I can't remember what it was. Oh, wait. Wait. Hold on. Now I got to look this up because I think.
Starting point is 00:14:57 She's an amazing singer. I actually like. Yes. Okay. She sang at the Oprah tour that I went to. Sounds right. Amazing. Wait. Were you at the tour where she I went to. Sounds right. Amazing. Wait, were you at the tour where she fell down?
Starting point is 00:15:07 Yes. Oprah? Yes, Oprah. Oh my God, it was the craziest. She's like talking about walking. She literally talks about balance. You need balance in your life. She's like, and it's amazing.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And then she falls down? All the way. The screen behind her said balance. And then it was like, you need balance in your life and we're going to talk all about balance today and we're going to find ways to make your life perfectly best and then her feet go whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop whoop shut up it was like shut up it's the best description and there's like thousands of people in this place and it's so we're all and we're all her biggest fans we're all like no
Starting point is 00:15:42 like everyone's freaking out and then she fell and there was no one on stage with her so she just fully fell and there was no chair or anything to grab onto and everyone was like freaking out it was so crazy and then they you know she made it she immediately took her shoes off and made a big joke and she was really funny and then they took her off stage then she came back and she was fine but then after the show she posted on her instagram that she had a sprained ankle and she had a, but she did like a five hour show all day. Wow. She was out there.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I mean, a professional. Truly, truly. But it was one of the scariest moments ever. And then I was so mad because it was like on Twitter
Starting point is 00:16:15 immediately and I was like, do we not all respect Oprah enough to not post this right now? I mean, I do feel like it could have been a private moment for her like nearest and dearest fans like we're we all paid a lot of money to be here i mean and we all love her
Starting point is 00:16:32 i don't want her to be embarrassed and then within seconds it was like memes gifts all over the place i was like bastards that sounds like haters to me that sounds like haters to me but you never know who's in the audience so the browns like they're what am i trying to say world lexicon no uh universe yeah their universe is already established before the show starts so that's why we get truly no introduction into who these people are what their relationship is why all of a sudden there's competing old folks homes. Wait, before we get into the actual episode, let's get into our news media. News media. Always has to be explained.
Starting point is 00:17:15 It just feels good to explain it. So Lonnie Love reveals Tyler Perry once busted her trying to take pictures of his estate. Oh my God. There's a great picture of them together. It's a perfect picture of Lonnie Love, both arms in the air. Tyler Perry, maybe like grabbing her stomach. Honestly, the more you look at the picture, the more you're like, what is happening? Is he lifting her up by her stomach?
Starting point is 00:17:37 What is this picture? Show me this picture. Can I share my screen? Please. Because this is wild. So during an April 15th, E... See, do you see it?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Hold on, I'm trying to move it over. An E! Nightly Pop interview, Lonnie Love revealed she once visited friend Tyler Perry's estate and was caught breaking his no picture policy. She tried to sneak photos after he asked her not to. Kim Whitley, who was there with love confirmed the story love explained i said tyler isn't isn't anywhere around i'm gonna sneak
Starting point is 00:18:11 a little picture childish gambino was performing so i was like i just want one memory she soon felt a hand on her shoulder and perry playfully batted her phone away before she could take any photos that's hilarious it is very funny i'm like he is omnipotent only uh omnipresent wait omnipotent he's everywhere um yes oh they don't play any game about that no picture policy because we when we went to set this was before he has the big studio he has now he had a smaller studio and oh that lake that is in um the family that prays also really good um that's on the property of the studio oh so there was a guy there taking pictures because we were extras so all of us were like dude chill they'll send all of us home stop it
Starting point is 00:19:01 and he was taking pictures that he's just surrounded by security they take his phone oh no because at first they're like yo dude delete the pictures and he's like okay and then he starts taking pictures again oh wow okay and like when you're in there there was like banners of like different still shots from the different movies that he's done uh-huh and at first they were like yo man no pictures and he's like okay cool and then he does it again they're like dude no pictures and they're like you know again they get him to delete them and then they just took his phone they're like we already told you twice yeah no you if that's that's too much but i would have a i would if i were at his house i think i would be subtly like moving my phone around it would be really hard not to i would
Starting point is 00:19:43 be very i would try it his house well the house that they filmed diary of a mad black woman in that's his house oh yeah so we all know we don't need a picture oh no one he's moved to uh he was like i will never do anything because they he's like they fucked up my floors they fucked up my walls yeah the whole production here he's like i'll never do anything in my house again but i was like he's learning in real time with everybody else yeah he's like hey you scratch my floor it's like yeah there's probably 500 people hanging out all day like you can only roll down so much brown paper before your floors are just fucked um wait should we take a break
Starting point is 00:20:19 yeah let's do it. Okay, we'll be back. So, season one, episode one, Meet Brown Meadows, was written by Tyler Perry and Chantel R. McClain, directed by Tyler Perry, released January 7th, 2009. Okay, so let's get into the summary of the show, this episode. So, Medea's daughter,
Starting point is 00:20:54 Cora. Okay, these are details I want. Yeah, it would have been nice if it was like, hey, you should have watched the movie. You should have watched the movie. I guess so, we should have watched the movie. You should have seen the play. You should have gone back in time and found a Tyler Perry play near you. So Medea's daughter Cora visits her father, Mr. Brown, as he's doing a renovation project. Now, when I watched that moment, I thought, wife comes home to husband who is on a ladder. I did not think all of this. So anyway, he's hoping to fulfill his father's dying wish by opening a retirement home called Brown Meadows.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Also, the picture of the father in the background is insane. I don't know if I caught that. I don't think I noticed that. It's him with like the Sherman Hemsley
Starting point is 00:21:33 cul-de-sac bald spot. Cul-de-sac. It's this giant picture of the back, like you kind of don't catch it, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:41 they, like the, he talks about like doing his father's like dying wish in the shot gets a little wider and then you see the picture of the dad in the background they don't reference it just didn't clock it uh so Cora asked Mr. Brown how he learned to renovate he said he picked up the DVD box set of this old hood which got just a
Starting point is 00:22:01 huge laugh laughter and also like this is like minute one, barely, but the audience is on board. So I also was wondering, were they all people who have like seen this stuff? So when they come in, like we know what everything is that's already happening. That makes it way funnier.
Starting point is 00:22:15 So Mr. Brown tells a story about how the people at the store were treating him rudely after he asked the woman working. This made me laugh. And she had the claps, which confuses Cora. And he said, he even gave her the clap, or he gave the clap to Medea for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Cora catches on and realizes he's talking about the clapper, a sound-activated electrical switch from infomercials that lets you turn on appliances by clapping your hands. Mr. Brown said he has to get back to work so he can rewire the house after electrocuting himself. Cora leaves, and Mr. Brown electrocutes himself again. Which was intense. can rewire the house after electrocuting himself Cora leaves and Mr. Brown electrocutes himself again which was um intense wait with the clap I was like this feels like improvised he was going on about the clap for like a while a very long time and I it felt like there was this energy of like if you're getting laughs just keep going like do not stop don't stop so okay well Mr.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Brown's nephew Will and his wife sasha are visiting they okay but they come in oh okay as if they're not a couple they come in with the like so they're like role playing that they're cheating or whatever yes and then they start to make out um and while this is happening carmen a social worker arrives to tell them that the elderly home down the street is on fire she tells them them she needs. Which I was like, what? What is she doing there? The priorities are so off. She runs down the street to tell them.
Starting point is 00:23:31 It's like, you should be calling 911. She tells them she needs a place to keep residents. And Will and Sasha tell her Mr. Brown is opening an elderly home. So how convenient that she came over. Carmen asks if some residents can stay with him. Before Mr. Brown answers fully, she opens the door and lets 20 residents enter the house and that i did enjoy that moment he was like there can be two and then two people came he goes one two done and then she's like no and then he just goes is this a circus okay that made me laugh the references and then
Starting point is 00:24:01 he called one nelson mandela and then another one Winnie Mandela. Winnie Mandela, yeah. And I was like, okay. He roasted every single person in a different way. And it was, I think they all really enjoyed it. And I feel like it was new. He was like, John McCain. Everyone had a smile on their face. Like he just like called everyone something. But then I was like, wow, the extras are beholden to never make a sound.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I know. They only got to like smile or nod ahead. So Robin Robinson, who runs the retirement home down the street, who knew that there were this many retirement homes in the same vicinity, arrives and thanks Mr. Brown for letting her residents stay with him temporarily.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Mr. Brown says they can stay permanently since he's opening his own retirement home. Robin tells him he can't compete with her and she will be back. She's like this evil old folks home person. She's going to be back to collect her residence once everything is cleared and the fires put out. So that's my friend Kyra. So I was in a play with her written by a playwright in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And I was in a play with her and then she her boyfriend you know soon to be fiance they had a show on BET called Somebodies and so because I was friends with them I became like a uh let's just say I did stand-in work for her oh okay I don't know if y'all know how stand-ins work but they have to be somewhere near the same size yeah like same height same size kind of look kind of look like the actor right and so i'd also been contacted to do um so i don't know if you've ever seen house of pain but the main character on there the mom um she is she has a darker complexion than me she is four inches shorter than me and she's bigger than me and they called me multiple times and were like hey can you be a stand-in for her i'm like but sure but i'm taller than her this is not helpful
Starting point is 00:26:01 and i'm lighter than her and they said okay and then they called me back a second time and i said those things again we do not care we just need someone to stand in the light right it's very funny like for anyone out there who doesn't know like they you have a stand and come in so that you can get the camera set up everything at the right height the right lighting for the actor when they come in so you don't have to do it all over again yes and then so that really defeats the purpose if they're right yeah but if you watch the show change everything some of the tracking shots are adjusted mid-tracking yes and i was like this is so wild well because the third time they called me the girl goes okay so we had called you to be a stand-in
Starting point is 00:26:41 for her but oh you're taller than her I said yes you're smaller than her I said yes like oh you're all at the same complexion I was like no the girl goes we can't use you why am I calling you and I'm like I don't know but you've been calling me for a week so how about we take my name off this list I had a stand-in who was shorter than or no we were the same height but I was seated for something and I like, you need to adjust for about like two to three inches. And they were like, no, we don't. Because she was smaller than me. And I was like, you do.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I will be taller than her seated. They're like, you're the same height as her. And I was like, yes, but I also know I have a fat ass. It's like, don't you understand? Like, I mean, but like your torsos can be totally different. Like you could be like the same height sitting down and totally different height standing up. It just doesn't make any sense. And I like told them.
Starting point is 00:27:28 So then when I got into the shot and sat right down, they went, oh, this is all wrong. We have to readjust it. So then I just was my own stand in and I would just have to redo everything. It was. That's annoying. It was very annoying. But, you know, grateful for the work. So it sounds like people should listen to black women, is what I heard.
Starting point is 00:27:45 People should. Just listen to anybody who's like, I think I know this. Listen to someone who's telling you, hey, this is not going to work. And you're like, yeah. And then you get on set and you're like, this isn't going to work. I was like, I tried to tell you.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I tried to tell you. I mean, I'm getting paid regardless, but I was not, I didn't intend to do this. It's like, let's just work smarter, not dumber. Stupid men. Oh my God. Okay, so Will and Sasha do health checks on the residence since he's a doctor and she's a nurse. Carmen tells Mr. Brown that he needs to get a license in order to officially run the retirement home and she starts the process for him. needs to get a license in order to officially run their retirement home and she starts to
Starting point is 00:28:23 the process for him so yeah they are doing like really loose health checks on these residents in the kitchen yeah they do not care and one guy comes in and he's like time to check my anus like he fully like he starts to unbutton his pants and she's
Starting point is 00:28:40 like what are you doing sir and he's like what did he say it was like the hemorrhoid hernia yeah he's like they do it you doing, sir? And he's like, what did he say it was? Like the hemorrhoid check. Hernia. Hernia. Yeah. He's like, they do it every day or whatever. I'm like, this doesn't seem good.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I don't think I know what a hernia is, honestly. I feel like it's a growth on you. See, I thought it was like a pulled muscle inside your body that like really hurts. I don't know. I'll look it up. Papa! What's a hernia come here i want this answer what's a hernia
Starting point is 00:29:12 it's when the lining in your abdomen gets torn thank you thank you thank you mystery man i love it he didn't come into frame nothing he just comes with information just a voice telling us hello i will tell you goodbye that's my homeboy he's an emt i love it amazing i mean how convenient to be like what is this and he knew it exactly and i would have been better than me yeah and it was very quick succinct to the point um as brown decides which residence he's gonna keep at the house this is also so like wild to me these old people don't have any agency over where they get to live and they're not all that old like a lot of them are perfectly no they're like 50 and they're like hey the colonel looks like he just
Starting point is 00:29:59 turned 55 i mean also mr brown is not old like no no no they do no work to make him look old like they put the gray in the beard and he's just like he's ancient and that's his he looks young with a white beard I'm like okay um so the rep tells Mr. Brown that all the residents need to go back to Robin's facility Robin then takes almost all of them she leaves edna and colonel with mr brown since they've been giving her trouble at her facility mr brown is upset since he's been having the same issues with them and then okay this this person's saying this whole thing kind of feels like a whole different episode yes daisy larue a former actress arrives and asks for the penthouse suite mr brown agrees to take her in since she has money
Starting point is 00:30:45 but cora is apprehensive robin arrives and says miss larue was due in her facility and mr brown stole her miss larue says she has decided to stay with mr brown where'd she even get the information i feel like tbs just went you have to have a white person figure it out make it make sense she comes and she's like from like 1940, like in a, I mean, she was very ridiculous. Robin threatens to call the inspector and leaves.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Edna and Colonel tell Mr. Brown they have no family and nowhere else to go. Mr. Brown wakes up the next morning to find Colonel settling in as a resident and making breakfast. Which is, I mean, okay. Usually in a sitcom,
Starting point is 00:31:23 there's an A storyline and a B storyline where one story is happening and you can take a break from that storyline to come to another storyline. Nope. There is no B storyline here. There is only the A storyline. The closest you get is the young doctor and nurse. And that's not really another storyline.
Starting point is 00:31:44 It's just like it's different in addition to i think there's no a or b storyline because he writes the tv show like he writes the play so when you're watching a play there really is no b like this is all we're doing tonight yeah this is all the information this is the only story we're talking about. So when I was watching the show, I was like, oh, this is the only thing we're doing. It isn't until like the Meet the Trainer episode in the fourth season that you see like an A and a B. So I don't know if they finally,
Starting point is 00:32:17 like if they decided like, we're doing TV, right? Well, Tyler Perry didn't write that episode, the second one that we watched. I noticed that. noticed that and it felt more sitcom-y yes and wait so just about the meet the browns other you know storylines that we have from the play and the movie is a retirement home a part of that at all or is that just i don't think i've never seen what a choice what's so crazy about the meet the broad storyline is that there's also
Starting point is 00:32:45 like in medea's class reunion which is when she goes back to like her high school class reunion that's when you meet cora and brown so because it gets revealed in medea's class reunion that cora is actually that brown is cora's father uh and then that play is a spin so meet the browns is a spinoff from Medea's class reunion okay I didn't I've never heard of that one either now we have so much yeah there's a lot to cover yeah if you like Tyler Perry's assistant living which is a part of this world with David Mann and Tamela Mann rightrising the roles from Meet the Browns. I guess this is set in... So, oh my God. So the plot is after losing his job,
Starting point is 00:33:29 Jeremy, who I don't know, moves back to Georgia to help his grandfather who's buying a rundown elderly home. And so maybe they took the pilot of this. Oh my God. Is the pilot a backdoor pilot to a different pilot? Wow. Wait, so what show is that? that's tyler perry's assistant living that's coming out now assisted living wait what yeah so it oh it premiered september 2020
Starting point is 00:33:55 so oh yeah he was like okay so i kind of you know wasted that in the pilot or whatever like there was like a whole years later so if anything tyler perry's committed to helping old people i think is what and there's 25 episodes in the first season yeah he's he's he goes old school yeah sitcom rules like remember like when we were growing up sitcom like friends always had like friends living single martin you always had like 20 something episodes in a season yeah and ty a season yeah i'm gonna do the same sticking to the rules because the thing is you all you need a hundred episodes to hit syndication right so he's like i'll do that in a day yeah let's do this okay well let's talk about your your episode so season four episode 14
Starting point is 00:34:43 meet the trainer this is from 2011. And it was directed by Carlton. Yes, I was so excited when I saw that. I want to hear about him. So it was written by Carlos Portugal and was released August 4th, 2010, directed by Alfonso Ribeiro. So what was your-
Starting point is 00:34:57 Alfonso Ribeiro. Don't play that man like that. Ribeiro, I'm sorry. I converted his letters. Well, I let you say it because I wasn't sure how to say it. I guess I shouldn't have called him Carlton. He'll never escape that. Oops. I call him the host of AFV. sorry i converted his letters well i let you say it because i wasn't sure how to say it well i guess i shouldn't have called him carlton he'll never escape that oops i call him the host of afv
Starting point is 00:35:10 okay working it's working um yeah i'll let y'all run through the synopsis and i'll talk okay yeah okay okay so derrick who lives in the fraternity house next to mr brown begs mr brown to give him his money back. That is such a weird sentence. Mr. Brown falsely advertised that usher would be performing at a church, at a church fundraiser when it was actually just a church usher. Yes. Mr. Brown eventually gives Derek his money,
Starting point is 00:35:38 but Cora tells Mr. Brown that he needs to come up with a way to fundraise for the church. Derek suggests Mr. Brown make an exercise video to raise money, which is so silly. Derek offers to help, and they decide to call the video Jumping Jacks for Jesus. Cora teaches her high school class.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Who knew she was a high school teacher? And interrupted when a new student, Rose, walks in. One of the other students, this is so wild. Played by Raven Goodwin. Yes, Raven Goodwin, who is wonderful. One of the other students in Yes. Raven Goodwin, who is wonderful. Yes. One of the other students in the class, Tommy makes one of her weight.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Cora asks a question about the Cuban missile crisis. Rose answers correctly. And Tommy makes fun of her. Cora sends Tommy to the principal's office. And it's really over the top and it doesn't stop for the entire scene. Yes. Which is what makes the turn even crazier later. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Derek and Mr. Brown welcome a group of churchgoers who will be participating in the exercise video. Mr. Brown shows a Photoshopped image of Derek to inspire everyone, where he's like on like a baby body or a man wearing a diaper. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I thought it was a big baby. Me too, because I thought it was a diaper. Okay, so he starts to lead them through exercises. Mr. Brown runs into Cora in the hallway and tells her how the video is going after he... Also, I was like, why is he in this school? Because he went to go get the jump ropes. Oh, yes, that makes perfect sense.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Cora sees Tommy exiting her classroom. This also is nuts. She asks why he's there, but Tommy rushes off in a hurry. Cora turns on the lights and sees Rose buttoning her blouse because I guess she just fucked Tommy in the classroom. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Or fooled around. Maybe. But I truly am like, they fucked. Cora asks Rose if she's okay and Rose tells Cora she likes Tommy. Cora tells Rose that Tommy's using her and tells Rose that she wants to take her somewhere.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Rose asks what will happen if she refuses. And Cora says she'll tell the principal about her and Tommy. That part made me really sad, though, because at first it looked like it was going to be really dramatic. Like something bad happened to her in that room. And then it was like, no, I like him. And then I was like, well, then that's just a depressing storyline. But I did like that it felt like it had a lot of depth and it felt very tyler perry like i was like yes we are getting into some hard-hitting stuff randomly in the sitcom when
Starting point is 00:37:53 also this man is wearing a unitard and jumping around in the other scene so mr brown continues to lead the churchgoers through intense exercises cora enters with rose and says they've come to join the exercise group and rose asks why corora brought her there after she told her beauty on the inside is all that counts. Cora tells Rose she wants her to learn self-love and Rose leaves. I'm on Rose's side. It makes no sense to be like, you're enough. Come to this exercise class. It was a very conflicting message. It was a very conflicting message. So Tommy and Rose go back to Cora's classroom, but Rose starts to question Tommy.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Cora watches from the door, and truly the door is wide open. Rose asks Tommy why he keeps her a secret. Tommy says he's doing Rose a favor. Rose fires back, revealing that she's been doing all of Tommy's homework. Tommy says, no one's going to hang out with you, Rose. And Rose pushes him right down hard.
Starting point is 00:38:42 He fell across the room. Like she had superpowers. And that's why you never fuck with a big bitch because we're stronger than you think. You think I've ever pushed a boy across a classroom? No. Cora enters the classroom and makes fun of Tommy for being weak in front of a bunch of other students. She walks Tommy down to the principal's office and winks at Rose as she leaves. Mr. Brown's exercise group gets upset about not getting a cool down. And after Mr. Brown dismisses them, Derek tells Mr. Brown that the tape ran out at the last
Starting point is 00:39:15 segment. Mr. Brown asks the class if they will stay to rerecord the last segment, but they all leave. And Mr. Brown finishes the video with Cora, Derek and Rose. And I'm just like segment. and mr brown finishes the video with cora derrick and rose and i'm just like segment what what when you say segment how much of this tape do you need to redo yeah i know it felt like you could just say like the end like i don't know but also those strong video v like video cassette camcorders oh my god i know well so hilarious what year is it so it's 2010 or something when this is being made so like the cameras look like they're from the late 90s at best they're like huge gray like but if they're church but also if it's like if this is a church a bunch of old people go to those are the cameras yeah it checked out it it didn't bother me but i found it funny i was
Starting point is 00:40:02 like and then the tape running out like it's, this is just a funny problem to have. And then I loved when, so who was chasing the youthful man around at one point? Oh, they like leave. Oh yeah, one of the one woman from the class was like, I'm gonna eat you. I wanna, you're so scrumptious looking or something. Screaming for his life.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Like just screaming. Mr. Brown, help me, help me. Because he's a shirtless child being chased by an adult woman grown mr brown takes the tripod lifts the tripod up and is like chasing them with it i was like i mean you could just pivot it you could pivot the camera to capture everything you want and the room was like you know very small so then the idea of them running around like he can't get away it was just it was ridiculous i would have loved it if he just ran past the so like what i would have loved that if he just like ran like at least one time ran past like i like it like not breaking fourth wall but just like
Starting point is 00:40:53 really like running towards so were there a lot of audience laughs in this episode there were some i noticed i definitely noticed. Okay. There was no audience. Wow. None. Wow. None. Okay. Tell us everything.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Because that would impede the time. Lauren, you can't shoot two episodes of television a day if you're loading in and out an audience because you would have to have a warmup comic. Wow. It would be a waste of time and money. We need more. Tell me, tell me from step one. I want to know about like how this job came to be. I want to what the week was like but you said it was a day so like tell me about everything so i so i was at the time i was working at a um this was a 2010 2011 yeah so i was working
Starting point is 00:41:39 um i was doing bilingual customer service for a power company um that was based out of florida but we were in atlanta but we couldn't tell them we weren't in florida uh so people would they would give us what the weather was every day so someone called they wanted to like shoot the shit about the weather we'd know what the fuck they were talking about oh my god it's really funny right imagine being on the phone being like you're you're not in Florida. Oh, Rumpf, I've been deceived. Well, because technically they weren't allowed to use agents outside of the state. Oh, I see. Because this is like the state.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Oh, this is like the state power company. But technically they were like, we're outside contractors. So that's why every day I knew what the weather was in Lakeland, Florida. Because they would tell us. And we talked to a lot of old people on the phone, older Americans, I don't know what to call them, elderly. And so they would call in, and while they're waiting to get account information, they'd be like, so how's the weather where you are?
Starting point is 00:42:39 And you're like, oh, it's 75 degrees and clear. But how did you get the show? There's a 20% chance of right. Anyway anyway so i hear you i ramble so um i was excited to see where it was going well i was like ow i was trying to connect the pieces and i couldn't do it so i was like i guess i just ask tyler perry called for help yeah how's the weather in florida will you come to uh meet so i knew the casting director because of being in women in film and television in atlanta of atlanta and so since i had done stuff with kyra i think like plus everybody in atlanta who knew who the fucking cast director was um so she got my name from another friend of
Starting point is 00:43:26 mine who had worked on the show um and so they contacted me because they were looking for extras to be um to be in the video so I think I had to call in sick from work that day so they didn't know what I was doing um and so we get to the studio and it's fucking Fort Knox it is Fort fucking Knox really because it's that first of all it's down by Greenbrier so it's on like the south side of Atlanta and it's near Greenbrier Mall if I remember correctly which we called Blackbriar Mall because it was the blackest mall in the city um most of the mall was you know hot wing sneakers and a woolworth um so you know like seven foot lockers so it was a fucking compound like there was literally like you know how like when you go like paramount or something in la there's security and there's walls up around
Starting point is 00:44:18 everything it's the same concept but it's like you have to get super like you can't you only get to come on that day you have to have an id all can't you only get to come on that day you have to have an id all this other stuff and then you get in there and you're only allowed to so when you get into the studio you're only allowed to be in a certain area as an extra don't take any pictures don't take any pictures we'll send you home don't take any pictures this kid tried it um he took his phone and i think oh they ended up sending him home oh they ended up sending him home because he wouldn't show the fuck out uh and so they take us to set and the young man uh the guy who was getting chased he was running his lines and he helped and he asked me to help
Starting point is 00:45:02 him run his lines like i'm just standing in a group of people and he asked me to help him run his lines and so i'm running lines with him on set before the scene starts and it's i don't know if you've ever been in like one of those big uh sound stages where it's like all of the sets line up in a room that's like a hallway uh-huh so it's like a hallway and there's sets on both sides so there's no audience oh no i actually don't think i've ever seen that no because nobody does it like that yeah that's interesting if you're doing a multi-cam you have like the stadium seating for the audience and then the sets on one side and then maybe like the set twists for another set like on the back of it but yeah that's insane just wow that means he's just truly just
Starting point is 00:45:45 like flipping the cameras just like not even like a full reset because if you know like just flipping it oh my god this is because me and him were working on the lines on like what was the because the church set was right across from us and then there was a set i don't know which if it was meet the browns or what it was for but it was like a front porch like a house on the front porch was on the other side of the church set of the church basement set then i was literally helping him with these lines in front of this front porch um but it was funny because he asked me to help him like he was running those lines and i was like because he looked at me like you want to you want to he asked me to help him. Like he was running those lines and I was like, because he looked at me like, you want to help? You want to help?
Starting point is 00:46:26 He's like, do you? Yeah, you can't ask anybody else. Everyone else is like trying to cram in their lines too. Right. There's no time. Because he was like, he, because I asked him, like I was looking at him. I'm like, I see him like looking around like he wanted help.
Starting point is 00:46:39 And I was like, do you want? He's like, can you? And I'm like, do you want? Yeah, I'll help you too. So it was like, I offered, he asked. It was i hope you do so it was like i offered he asked it was very interesting but then it was almost like he was too good for it so i was like what is happening because the thing is he didn't know his fucking line wow we were getting ready to shoot that's i don't know because the thing is i didn't see
Starting point is 00:47:02 any different colored pages everything was white everything was is i didn't see any different colored pages everything was white everything was white i didn't see any different color pages i think somebody might have had a couple yellow sheets for our listeners if you have colored pages that means there was a rewrite but when everything's all white it means from like pre-production draft was perfect yeah first draft that's it that's what we're like so every draft is a new color so by the end you might have like pages that are white pink yellow blue green and all mixed together and that is very funny to just go like nope first draft was solid we love it i think i might have seen a couple yellow pages and so we get in there and alphonsus
Starting point is 00:47:42 robert is the director and he introduces himself to everyone. I did not know that this man is shorter than me. I'm 5'4". I thought this man was at least 5'6", 5'7". Because I've seen him, you know, you watch him in Prince Prince of Bel-Air. Yeah. Standing next to Will Smith. And I've met Will Smith. Will Smith is very tall.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah. So I'm thinking, so after I met him, I was like, was he on Apple boxes the whole time on Prince Prince of Bel-Air? Or they just would shoot them from across the room probably like he was probably when he stood next to him on an like a half apple or something yeah like a half apple they like to say he's short but it's not like that short um and so what's funny is like i know he was the director but i don't remember him giving a lot of direction because when we did our scenes so they only take three takes of a scene that's it i was wondering because i was thinking how annoying it would have to be to do like the workout thing all day or do it a million times or whatever so you're like okay three takes per scene
Starting point is 00:48:42 and right and even if it's not like a, even if the lines aren't a hundred percent, they move on. That's so funny. They move on. It explains why nobody was sweaty at any moment. Because sometimes you'll like cut back and forth and it'll be like either the third take or the fifth take or like the eighth take. And you're like, oh, people are varying degrees of sweaty. And I'm like clocking it. But this was everyone was dry.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Nothing was different. And I also felt like there were moments where Mr. Brown made people laugh. And that was in there. And I was actually like that. But but I just think it's funny. Like there's just no. No, those were legitimate moments because, you know, sometimes like the young man, he'd start laughing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Because he would improvise a lot of his lines what a dream job a dream job where you you shoot what five episodes a week you get you don't have to learn your lines and you just get to have fun and what about that moment where he was like um directing you guys in what dance moves to do was he making those up like he's like grab the mail grab the mail so we need to pass the plate so pass the plate was a thing that he that was already established okay right but then the put it in your pocket that came out of nowhere so that's why you like anytime there's a move that we do uh-huh that's one that we knew was coming anytime you see like a pause like a huh and then we do it then you know that was like because like the put in your pocket
Starting point is 00:50:10 put putting up that was improvised was there a rehearsal before you shot um kinda as in we would get a run through of what was going to happen oh and then because they kind of just told us generally what was going to happen uh-huh and then mr brown came in and he said hi to everybody because that big dude that he references that's one of my that was a guy i was friends with haji um and since we know each other like the whole time like he kept trying to talk to everybody and they were just like hey you need to you can't talk or like there'd be times where we would try to like say something and speak up and they're like okay y'all can't say stuff too many times like they're very because you know there's
Starting point is 00:50:59 so many times like what's the extra talk so many times you have to pay them right because i think i got i think i got paid like 75 to do that maybe maybe wow checks out because oh and everything's and like i think a bunch of most of the people most of us were non-union oh interesting yeah most of i mean it's atlanta so they'll play with that but like there was one point where like uh tyler perry's writers were going on strike because they weren't unionized that's insane and the n-double-a-c-p stepped in wow so they wouldn't sue tyler perry um and then a lot of like the crew like certain parts certain members weren't in the union. That was interesting. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah, that's pretty wild for a scripted show to not, like on television, to not be union. Well, they were playing because in Atlanta, since the film industry, like the film and TV industry was just starting to pop off. They were like, if it's not like LA, you can't do anything if people aren't union. But in Atlanta, they were just like, we're coming, you know, it industry was starting to take off and georgia's a right to work state anyway so everyone was kind of playing off the tax incentives and not having to use union people but yeah a lot of the like when we're laughing at him or when the guy is laughing we're genuinely laughing at him because well either the exercises like he had lines that were specifically his lines and then like we do the three takes and then there was like another take we're just like just have fun but i was like how are we giving him a just have fun take every take was a just
Starting point is 00:52:37 have fun take because it's just been him having fun right and there were lines that that kid was supposed to do that he never got out because he never got to the queue line um and then the lady that was acting her every time she spoke i just kept looking at her going this should have been me it should have been me it should have been me i wore my curly ponytail just like she wore her curly ponytail i guess if i was 20 years older, I could have got this job. But she was so much. Like, all of the drama in the scene was kind of, and I was just like, okay, is this overdone? Is this the style?
Starting point is 00:53:17 Like, it was. But no one's going to say. Like, there's nobody going like, oh, the tone isn't exactly right or whatever. Interesting. Like, just to jump back to the other episode just everyone's everyone was in a different tv show everybody yeah and it's like in this episode as well it was like okay like raven was pretty understated and wasn't doing multi-cam acting but then it was almost like degrassi or something like she was kind of like serious
Starting point is 00:53:45 like i feel like her storyline and her storyline was kind of serious but like it was like kind of sad like it wasn't like yeah it just wasn't the same tone as then going to the church you know video thing and he's going like crazy jumping around and i'm like this is goof troop like to go from like her being like abused in this relationship. And like the, and the lines being so blurred with like how anyone was being punished with regard to like her relationship. Like I felt like the teacher was like kind of blaming her sometimes, but also then going to punish the guy.
Starting point is 00:54:19 But like, it felt like there wasn't like, and like you said, with her bringing her to that class or the video, like there wasn't a clear storyline for her of like what the teacher felt. That makes no sense. Yeah. It made no sense because like the thing is it's like I know that girl. I've been that girl. I've had boys keep me a secret. We all went to high school. So like I get it and sometimes you do get to the point where you're just like yeah dude I'm not doing this. I'm prettier than the skinny girl you're fucking with.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Like, I understand what you're saying. But also that bitch is a mud duck. So at the end of the day, she might be skinny. But the way the account for her face was set up is all withdrawals and no deposits. Truly. So why are we playing this game? Right. But her character was so serious very serious in the
Starting point is 00:55:07 classroom she was giving you acting she was acting yes because the only person that kind of seemed really natural was tommy yeah she and tommy were on a different show than everybody else yes they were definitely like in an after- school special and everyone else was like very goob troop. And I just, the rationale. Okay. I just, they, they were taping something for the church in the school. So then the teacher brings a student to a basement with some random adults. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Brown was at the church. She took her to the church. You know what? Fully fucked. I did not realize that. I thought that was like the church she took her to the church you know what fully fuck i did not realize that i thought that was like the basement of the school no brown was at the church i guess the school is right next door because he ran everything is just right next door i know he asked him mr brown what are you doing here because he's at the school and he's like i'm here to because he talks about getting the jump rope yes one of the people in the video was stuck on the ground in their 20s. Yes, I thought she was like,
Starting point is 00:56:08 why did you come out of the basement to get the jump ropes? Wow. Yeah. Okay. Raven Goodwin also was in a movie when she was nine called Lovely and Amazing and she's so good in that.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Have you seen that movie? No. I haven't seen it in a long time, but I really remember her from that. She was so great and apparently she won an Independent Spirit Award for that when she was nine. She you seen that movie? No. I haven't seen it in a long time, but I really remember her from that. She was so great, and apparently she won an Independent Spirit Award for that. She was on a Showtime show. She just did a movie.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Smilf, and she was really good in that. I like her. Yeah, she's great. I think she follows me on Instagram. Really? Ooh, come on. Yeah. Isn't it so weird about how things are now, where it's like you suddenly have a connection to someone, like it feels so personal? Dude, you know who followed me on
Starting point is 00:56:46 Instagram during the pandemic and about lost my damn mind who one Drita Devanzo from Mob Wives I love Mob Wives I watched Mob Wives during lockdown one I have been I've been doing shout outs to Big
Starting point is 00:57:02 Ange during my set Big Ange I do a bit about like how if the Lord I've been doing shout outs to Big Ange during my set. Big Ange. I've been doing shout outs. Because I do a bit about how if the Lord ever blessed me with a dragon, I'd burn down New York. And I start with Staten Island because no one needs it. I said the only thing I would leave is Drita DiVanzo's house and the mural to Big Ange. Shout out to Big Ange.
Starting point is 00:57:19 I love Big Ange. I do a character based on Big Ange. Loosely inspired. And her name is Big Sue. But she talks like this. And I have really huge lips. And that's just basically what it is. I don't really know her that well, but I do love the voice.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I think she's incredible. She's amazing. She's so funny. I've got to love her. I'm not married to anybody, but the boys, they like me. And you're just like, how did your voice end up like that how long has it been like that she has doesn't it hurt you to speak listen she only dates the wise guys and she remembers when the guys used to have her in the fuzz yes nice houses and you know my uncle sally like i was just if dude like she makes you work i was like you know what these italians might have it right this shit they're
Starting point is 00:58:12 great also karen gravino uh she had she opened a pizza shop but then it's closed and then it was called it was like called nostra kind ofra, which is like the Italian mob. Wait, was it called La Costa Nostra? Oh yeah, that's what it was called. You goofy bitch. She just came out with a reality show last year called, I think her dad's finally out of jail for the drug charge. It's so fucking up to her.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Sammy the Bull. Sammy the Bull. Her dad took the charge for them as he was trying to- Wait, we have to get back to the Browns. I'm so sorry, but she just had a new reality show come out called like Mob Family or something so if you want to know what Karen Gavanna is up to I don't know if I'm into it
Starting point is 00:58:54 I'll check it out I haven't seen a lot of Mob Wives but Drita DiVanzo it's fucking amazing Drita DiVanzo follows me and then um what's her fucking name Lily Leah Remini started following me oh that's a good one fucking amazing drita vanzo follows me and then um what's her fucking name uh lily leah remini started following me oh that's a good one okay which those are two white women where if shit
Starting point is 00:59:12 ever went down i'm like them too i want them too yeah yeah well uh drita's going to jail because her and her husband they uh they were you know laund. Anywho, I think we covered all of the trivia. We did? Okay, well, so the awards that have been won, David Mann won an NAACP Image Award for his performance in 2011, and Lamont Rucker was nominated twice for Outstanding
Starting point is 00:59:38 Supporting Actor at the NAACP Image Awards in 2010 and 2011. He was what? Nominated twice for Outstanding Supporting Actor. Nominated? That man? Nominated? image awards in 2010 and 2011 he was what nominated nominated for outstanding supporting actor nominated that man nominated okay wow hey you said a lot without saying much you saw that pilot you saw that pilot were there no more who else got nominated that year you saw that pilot bro okay you know we we're we're just here to support black men you know we're just he was
Starting point is 01:00:16 was he the one who smiled through medea's christmas probably no was he probably i gotta google him now because he's he's in something else that we just watched uh why did i get married too we haven't watched that yet but hold on maybe he's in the first one oh he is in why did i get married but he's not the the boy yeah yeah yeah no no no no no i don't think so wait smiling which which movie was that though wasn't that that was medea's christmas okay so what is he smiling because he doesn't know his lines but who's smiling? Which movie was that, though? Wasn't that... That was Madea's Christmas. Okay, so what? Is he smiling because he doesn't know his lines? Who's this man?
Starting point is 01:00:51 No, he was just this man who appeared and gave a bunch of money to Tika Sumner and just wouldn't stop smiling the whole time. His character smiled a lot, but he plays Sheriff Troy in Why Did I Get Married? Oh, yes! We're going to need some law enforcement here. My favorite line ever uttered in a movie. I think you better stay.
Starting point is 01:01:12 We're going to need some law enforcement up in here. I think that's the direct quote. Does he have a Southern accent? Or is he just a cat daddy? It's just like a dramatic moment that I feel like he accentuates the way he says things. But the reception of Meet the Browns, the reviews were mostly favorable, and this is shady,
Starting point is 01:01:28 noted Tyler Perry's ability to cater to his audiences. Wow, that's shady as fuck. But also, you can't be mad, because Tyler Perry knows his audience. No, he does. He does cater to his audiences. But I feel like every review, they're like, okay, not for me.
Starting point is 01:01:46 But like, somebody's out there who likes. It's like these weird caveats that it's like, no, he's just successful. You might not like it, but you cannot knock that it's successful. You can't argue with it. So yeah, audiences like the show and ratings stayed consistent, which also is a huge thing. Yes. And when the series premiered on January 7, 2009, it had 4 million viewers. Which is insane
Starting point is 01:02:05 that's nowadays that's nuts by 2010 meet the browns had become the top sitcom on tbs i mean you can't you can't give it a bad review at that point no you can't it's just like that's a lot of people you also know what all of the black people are watching like it yep if you wanted to subliminally tell us anything that was the time to do it if you wanted to comeliminally tell us anything, that was the time to do it. If you wanted to come for us in any type of way. If you would like to market to us, you have your commercials run. Get on there. I was also.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Oh, I just remembered. I was also on a promo for Meet the Browns as an extra. And the guy who played the colonel, I think me and him, like, during the promo are, like, playing, like, cards or dominoes or something. But it was, like, a promo commercial for, like, the new season. So I guess before the season that I was in came out, they, like, asked me to come back to, like, be an extra in this commercial. I think, again, I made, like, maybe $75. Still fun, right? My mom was an extra in Madea's family reunion, and they paid her $30.
Starting point is 01:03:04 And she was there for 12 hours. Wow. No, no. 12 hours? And some dude fried her hair. Oh, no. Like flat iron, put her hair, just all kinds of nonsense in her hair, fucked her hair up. Like just flat iron, grease, all this other shit.
Starting point is 01:03:20 And then they were in country ass Georgia justia just outside all day 30 bucks like she took a day off of work she's like i'm gonna be in the extra just i was like this is very rude but yeah the colonel dude he's he's a very nice man um i don't i don't know if he's not in the fourth season i don't remember um as because it's just it seemed like the show was on all the time like i don't remember i swear one time there was a series like a season finale and then the premiere for the new season came on right after it wow i think it's the way his shows would go like it was never there's never a break right i love lucy like it's always on like t TBS, like they got, I mean, House of Pain went to syndication literally in like two years, two, three years.
Starting point is 01:04:10 They had a hundred episodes of a TV show in like two or three years. I love the way he works. I admire it. I'm like so impressed. I don't, I don't understand. It reminds you of the old studio system like like early hollywood like studios like if you were on a contract in the old studio system you were contracted to do 30 movies a year i feel like there's a happy medium between like well yeah because like we've been on sets where
Starting point is 01:04:38 you're like jesus christ nobody thought this out this is very important we're just here we live here now we live here now between like that and like we shot a whole movie in 42 minutes like i i feel like there's a nice sweet spot i'm thinking like why is there no one else like tyler perry like why he's like so he's he's feels so special because it feels like he's making this happen it's possible so why is nobody else doing this because i don't think that anyone else wants to deal with his audience and yeah but like carve out your own audience yeah even just being like oh i'm gonna just zoom through this show and make like a million episodes right but could you imagine if like i just try to think about could you see a white man doing this could you see a latin like if it was like a latino i just
Starting point is 01:05:25 don't understand why nobody else has done it because i'm like i don't get it either get two million dollars to make a movie and it's like fun enough and word of mouth and you make back plus some like at a profit like why why wouldn't someone else right because like part of me is going like okay well it's because he had established this audience with these live shows and all this stuff. And so by the time he was actually chosen or given a contract or whatever to make something, he had this whole system ready to go. But it makes you wonder about just people
Starting point is 01:05:57 who are already famous, where you could send someone who's just already famous and has a whole production company and everything. Like Jennifer Lopez presents. Totally. And just like just turns out a bunch of shit i don't understand why no one else is using this formula because like but if you look at like he had been doing those plays forever like like when you think about like kat williams like kat williams was the highest paid touring comic who had never been on Comedy Central because he had been headlining and touring for years but he wasn't mainstream so I think Tyler Perry was because black people
Starting point is 01:06:35 are about name recognition if we know who you are if we fuck with you we fuck with you and Tyler Perry understood that so like I like lopez could easily do this it could be jennifer lopez presents yeah and she could do the same thing but i think because he has come up with this whole new model of doing things and it's a black man doing it i don't think people want to fuck with it i think it's truly what it is because it's like or it's like i can't i i truly cannot understand i can't come up with any other reason as to why someone why aren't other shows shooting an episode in a day why aren't other shows yeah i i wonder because it works because it's very cost effective when you think about it. Yes. But it feels like other shows are like noted to shit. Like he gets on a leeway.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Yes. But it's because he has all the creative control. There's no one else to go to. Yeah. Who's Tyler Perry getting notes from? Tyler Perry? Right. He's like, we did a good job.
Starting point is 01:07:40 You know we did. Good job. You did it. You finished. Right. So there's no, like there's nothing, there's. You know, we did. Good job. You did it. You finished. Right. So there's no, like, there's nothing. There's no one else to answer to. There's no hoops to jump through.
Starting point is 01:07:50 There's no one you have to make happy because think about it. It's, if it's his shit, the sponsors are just like, how do we get these black dollars? And Tyler Perry is like, hey, come advertise during my show and you'll get black dollars. You'll get black dollars you'll get black eyes on it but since he is because like I swear when he was doing like you know when you're like on sets and stuff you'll see execs there especially the day that you're shooting I didn't see anybody from TBS on that set no one from TBS was on that set I don't remember the second ad like first ad no it was reforza robera and a camera like I don't remember anybody else on that set no one else is talking to us it like honestly it's
Starting point is 01:08:34 like you could do nicole byers presents like just see how that because I don't I don't have enough stories in my head listen I know I don't I know i don't because he's got all these different because it's like it's the the family from the family of praise and then all the medias and then they're all woven together like and they're all woven together so browns can come into medea anyone in the house of pain universe can come and medea can pop up there so since everyone's intermingled interrelated anybody can get anybody can get it like all right i want you you you and you movie like he made his own avengers like he made his own adventure that's why we call it the mcu the medea cinematic universe we do call it that i don't know
Starting point is 01:09:18 who coined that but oh yeah i know one of our guys was john braylock maybe um sadly we have to cut we've come to the end of our show I feel like we could go on forever because like Tyler Perry there is never you would just never run anything to talk about with this man there's so much there I've met him he's a very sweet man oh oh good 72 feet tall like he
Starting point is 01:09:40 seems big I'm gonna google this he is big and so when I went to go see Medea goes to jail and at one point as Medea, he jumped off the stage. He's six, five into the audience. It was like, and then there was the tit like the,
Starting point is 01:09:55 the boobs, their titties that Medea has in the costume. I don't know what's in them, but as he jumped off the stage, they just went airborne and then they just fall on top of him. But swear they were to hit somebody in the front we do love his titties we love tyler perry's titties love the titties and so afterwards there was like i my mother i don't know how she did this but we got it we were we were like maybe in like those mezzanine seats or something and there was an after party at this place called Churchill Downs like a bar next door to the theater I don't know how my mother got us in this after party I have no idea but I'm in
Starting point is 01:10:31 the after party I'm talking to Tyler Perry I'm talking to other people that were in the play who end up being who've been up being playing a house of pain I met him he was doing a book signing at a Walmart in Atlanta and I met him there so I was like wow and then he came to the show like a year ago and I was talking to him to him the daily show and I told him I was an extra on the show and he was like really he's like that's so great so he's a very nice man but when I'm telling you he I met him at that Walmart he was sitting down he was still a head taller than me when I was walking with him down the hallway in Daily Show I don't think I ever was able to like look
Starting point is 01:11:11 it was like looking into like I never I couldn't lean back far enough to see the man's face like he's a fucking juggernaut how tall is he? I love it but he's a sweetheart he's a very nice man he's 6'5 oh yeah that's fucking huge he feels like he's 6,000 I also googled him and in that google it says he's worth a. He's a very nice man. He's 6'5". Oh, yeah. That's fucking huge. He feels like he's 6,000.
Starting point is 01:11:27 I also Googled him, and in that Google, it says he's worth a billion dollars, which we've covered, but that is crazy. That worth of a billion dollars is a lot of money. It's so much money. That's not even real money. I mean, at that point, it's not. That's so wild. I do want to go down to the studio that he did, because the studio that he built, the new one,
Starting point is 01:11:52 is on an old confederate army base which is yes we've done hilarious yes yes i don't know i don't know if we know confederate we didn't know it was confederate no no i think we just knew his army base it was originally a confederate army base and then the u.s government when the when the south lost it became a u.s government army base and it was open up until like the mid-2000s like the army base like oh wow only closed a couple years ago and they weren't doing anything with the land because it's in downtown like it's near it's in southwest atlanta southwest it's in south atlanta and it's so much fucking land and the city was like come get it we can't use it there's a fucking golf course out here we don't want it and and you know old boy bought it but yeah it used to be a confederate army base wow i love it reclaim the land well we normally read reviews uh if you want to give us five hallelujahs hallelujah hallelujah and we'll
Starting point is 01:12:40 read it um so this is from nessie spooky Spooky. Wow, wow, wow, wow. Oh, like Nicole. Yep. So you know how to do it. Yep. I know exactly how to do it. I wasn't sure about the Tyler Perry season, but I love the intro music. I love the episodes.
Starting point is 01:12:55 The guests are amazing and funny. How much Lauren and Nicole love and the way they talk about the movies. It makes me want to watch them. Truly can't stop. It's so funny that people listen to this without watching the movies. I can't stop teehee-ing while I listen at work.
Starting point is 01:13:12 That's nice. You're not doing reviews of the show. You're doing reviews of your podcast. Yes. I think that's even better. If you are out there and you want to write a review, we'll pick one to read next episode as well. And Dulce, do you have anything you want to plug
Starting point is 01:13:29 while you're here? I'm on The Daily Show when I'm on it. So figure that out. Figure that shit out. Wait, I'll post it when I'm on. Great North is on Sundays on Fox at 830 and um and you were just on Seth Meyers I was just on
Starting point is 01:13:49 Seth Meyers last night um wearing a dress that Nicole Byer gave me like four years ago I love it I love that you found a use for it listen I that's I my the first dress I was gonna wear like a sunlight hit it I was like oh fuck there's like a spot on this dress and I couldn't get it out because it was from rainbow so i couldn't
Starting point is 01:14:07 put in the washing machine because it's flammable from rainbow and i was like fuck what else do i have and i was like the dress from nicole amazing i love it honestly friend it was like you came through in a pinch um i have various other jackets and boots from you that i love so i just gave my friends silver shoes you gave me i love it sisterhood of the traveling stuff it's just out of the traveling stuff like you know one day nicole's buyers clothes will be all over the nation i'm just women of all sizes oh just a bunch of fat ladies being like oh yay we did it honestly nicole is the only fat girl i've ever known that could buy can fucking find thrift clothes because me this fat girl goes in a
Starting point is 01:14:50 thrift store and i'm like one i'm itchy two um fat people don't give away clothes like i've never gone in a thrift store and been like i could wear this like i've never So I'm always amazed that you can find gorgeous things. Oh, thank you. You are a. Listen, if first-door clothes would make me itchy, I'd be right alongside you. I thought I was an asshole. And everyone's like, no, they're itchy. And I was like, fucking thank you.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Yeah. That made total sense to me when you said it. There's a feeling in the air, but it's still fun. Well, thank you so much for being here with us today. That was so fun talking to you. Thank you. Oh, Nicole, we have to have a conversation offline. But anyway, catch up, catch up, catch up.
Starting point is 01:15:33 She knows what. Thank you for having me. This was amazing. I was glad to be able to talk about my experiencencias. It was so fun to hear about someone. I think you might be the first person we've talked to who's had an inside scoop, right? Yes. Yeah, I'm from Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:15:48 So all we did was talk about Tyler Perry all day long. I honestly truly loved hearing that it's three takes. It's really good shit. Move on. Move on. I just, eight days for acrimony. This man's incredible. He's the fastest working man.
Starting point is 01:16:02 We'll be back next week with another episode. I don't know what it's going be but i'm excited yeah and if oh and if you're out there and you're wondering what the next thing is we usually tweet about it under whatever our current week is so if you want to watch the thing before the next episode comes out just look on twitter it's probably there twitter will help thank you Bye. Woo! That was a Hidgum Original.

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