Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Rudy (w/ Emily Hampshire)
Episode Date: July 16, 2024Lauren and Nicole are joined by very special guest Emily Hampshire (Schitt’s Creek) to debrief the classic football film, Rudy. No conversational stone is left unturned, from Rudy’s older... brother stealing his girlfriend (rude!) to Rudy having the impulse to read every single rejection letter out loud (funny!). Who do Lauren and Nicole think should play Rudy in the imaginary 2024 remake? The answer may surprise you. Follow Emily: Instagram, TwitterJoin us next week for our episode covering A League of Their Own! Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Ready, set, hut!
After high school, I'm gonna play football at Notre Dame.
Chasing a stupid dream causes nothing but you and everyone around you heartache.
Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to go to school here.
And ever since I was a kid,
everybody said it couldn't be done.
I always listened to them and believed what they said.
I don't want to do that anymore.
Hey, kid!
Not supposed to be here.
Not everyone is meant to go to college.
I need your help why should I help I just want to be a part of this
university and nuts you know a lot of people been telling me that lately
sometimes a winner
is a dreamer who just won't quit.
Hey you guys, my son's going to Notre Dame.
I'm here to play football for the Irish.
I wish God would put your heart in some of my players' bodies.
You're five feet nothing.
A hundred and nothing.
And you got hardly a speck of athletic ability.
In this lifetime, you don't have to prove nothing to nobody except yourself.
A true story from the creators of Hoosiers.
You ready, champ?
I've been ready for this my whole life. Welcome to Newcomers, playing for the home team.
It's me, Nicole Byer.
And me, Nicole Byer.
And me, Lauren Lapkus.
And of course, we have Coach Allie watching along from the sidelines.
This season, we'll be covering 10 of the sports movies that we feel like are cultural touchdowns and have clinched that championship ring.
Today, we're going to be watching the iconic football film starring Sean Astin, 1993's Rudy.
Okay.
Didn't I keep thinking it was earlier than 93?
It seems so much earlier.
I thought it was like 85.
I can't believe it was made.
And guess what?
If you want to watch Rudy, it's available for a fee on any of the major streamers.
And we're going to spoil it.
We're going to spoil rudy this movie
from 1993 so get ready okay we are so excited for our guests playing for the visiting team today
we're so excited to have emily hampshire emily's an actor known for her roles in television shows
like schitt's creek the rig 12 monkeys and chapel wait Did I say that right? She also portrayed Angelina in the 1998
film Boy Meets Girl opposite Rudy's
own Sean Astin. Holy
shit.
You got the scoop.
Whoa, I didn't know you had that
scoop. I thought I was going to surprise you
with that scoop.
You guys have Wikipedia, don't you?
Allie's amazing. She gets all the
info. That's crazy Allie's amazing. She gets all the info.
That's crazy.
That's amazing.
I love this. And that was after I, like, so you guys randomly, I would assume randomly,
picked Rudy, like, me to come on here with Rudy.
And that was, I loved that movie.
I was obsessed with Sean Astin.
And then I got to work with him and he didn't know how,
because I pretended I wasn't.
But guys, I found all my little,
this was back in the day of Polaroids.
These are amazing pictures.
That one's very funny if you look at the feet.
What are you wearing?
If you look at the feet.
I took off my shoes.
To be shorter hey i understand that i'm always i'm always leaning to the left with everyone
rudy oh my god rudy okay well what is your relationship to the sport of football? Do you have any connection to football?
My connection to football is I like the costumes that they wear.
But whenever I've said I like the costumes, people like their uniforms.
So I clearly don't know anything about football.
I touchdown.
That's about it.
You're Canadian.
Yeah. So you have that's also there's about it. You're Canadian? Yeah.
So you have, that's also,
there's no football. I mean,
I think we might have football. There's no football in Canada?
I don't know. I wouldn't say there's... It's not England.
It's not England. I wouldn't say there's no football,
but I would say
that is not, our national sport is
hockey. You don't have NFL.
Yeah. You know what? I know so much about football that I don't like you don't have NFL yeah yeah you know what I know so much
about football that I don't even know if we have NFL I love that okay how funny wait Lauren what's
your relationship to football um really none I basically remember playing football in like
fifth grade at school like where you had um flag football is that where you have like where it's
hanging off you to grab it?
That's it.
I don't know.
I think football is a little,
like I mean my family watched it growing up.
I'm from Chicago.
The Bears were a big part of my growing up.
Like football was on.
But I wouldn't say,
my family's more of a basketball family so it really wasn't like a huge thing.
And maybe, I don't think I ever went to a game.
Yeah, my brother played a
little bit in middle school or something yeah it's confusing yeah yeah it's so confusing i agree
there's a lot about it i don't understand and this movie i wouldn't say it helped
no at all they don't explain football all you know is that he wants play. And it's basically the only thing this guy thinks about.
And I can't wait to talk about this.
You know what?
Before we do, let's do our segment called the shot clock.
Now, each of us are going to have 10 seconds on the clock to summarize the film.
Allie's going to count us down and start the clock.
And you'll hear a buzzer when you run out of time.
Okay?
So who wants to go first?
I'll go first.
Okay, great. All right. And I'm just going to audibly be the buzzer, but I out of time. Okay. So who wants to go first? I'll go first. Okay, great.
All right. Uh, and I'm just going to audibly be the buzzer, but I'll hold it up. All right.
Three, two, one go. Okay. A little man who loves football so much and he only thinks about
football. He leaves a whole ass girl for football. And then he's like, I'm going to go to Notre
Dame and doesn't even like have the grace to go to Notre Dame and then he plays football and they carry him okay okay Emily Emily you want to try your hand at this okay okay three
two one go little guy dreams big who wants football, blows up his best friend
five
a row.
Blows up his best friend.
Almost forgot about that.
It's one of the best moments.
Okay, my turn.
Ready? Three, two, one.
Okay.
Too small to play? Not on my watch.
He's going to go to the big leagues.
He's never played.
He's going to Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame.
That's good. I failed to mention Notre Dame, which was like the main.
It's kind of.
Oh, my God.
It was like every other word.
When you said not on my watch, I almost passed away.
Oh, my God.
This movie.
Wow.
Okay, before we jump in, I also want to ask you because you were on Celebrity Jeopardy and that's my dream.
I keep talking about it everywhere I go in case maybe one day it can happen for me.
But how was that?
Were you nervous?
Okay, so I was so excited.
I studied for like a month.
I read all the books on it.
I started practicing with like a pen for the buzzer
because people talked about the buzzer.
Now I'm Canadian, so I don't really know.
I didn't learn American stuff, but studied really hard.
And I actually believed that
I could be a champion. Like, I
really believed it. You know what?
Have you seen White Men
Can't Jump?
I haven't. You're Rosie Perez.
Oh, really? Oh, God.
You are Rosie Perez who studies.
Did Rosie Perez become
the second worst contestant
in all of Jeopardy history?
Because I did.
Wait, how do you know?
They told you that?
They told you you're the second worst?
So in the end, they had to, it's for charity, right?
In the end, they had to give me money to keep me in the game.
They gave me $500 to keep me in the game.
And then, I mean, there was some,
like, it was awful.
It's way harder when you're there.
I'll just say that much.
For sure, for sure.
Stuff like then after people were online
saying how terrible I was,
and I, like, I was.
I got things really, really wrong.
Like, one of the questions was, like,
what's on the back of a quarter?
What animal?
And I
But you don't use quarter.
I mean you do. I mean you do
now but you grew up not
I don't know what's on the back of a quarter.
I said a beaver I think.
That's pretty funny. Which is not correct.
But then people were
like she didn't even know that
Antarctica was a continent.
And I'm like bitch I didn't even know what a continent is.
It was, yeah, it was an experience.
I love it.
I highly recommend it for anyone.
Did they let you go to the final question?
Oh, yeah. Yeah. yeah no that's what they
gave me the charity oh i see i see stay in the game yeah i love it i love it it's the pressure
is so different when you're when you're on it's so fast at home and you know there's also the risk
like when i'm watching at home of course i'm throwing out guesses all the time it's scary to
guess with the buzzer and be wrong like
that's yeah you want to feel like you're right but then you're wasting too much time wondering
if you're right and then I don't know I also think being Canadian is harder because a lot of
the questions are about the presidents like things that I feel like I don't even know from here but
like yeah you wouldn't have been learning that at school so no but I learned the press all the
presidents in a rap and then what I realized I when I get that question, I didn't have time.
I had to rap to get to the answer in my head.
Well, you have time now, and I'd really like to hear that rap.
No.
Can you do any of it?
I don't know.
Just a little?
No, it's on my Instagram.
I did it.
Okay.
I'll go watch that. It was so traumat Instagram. I did it. Okay. Okay. I'll go watch that.
It was so traumatizing.
I blocked it out, but I did really, I had it good.
Yeah.
I need to study that just in general.
I always want to learn the presidents because I feel like I should know this stuff.
And a rap would be the only way that's going to get me down to this.
George Washington was called the father of the nation.
John Adams, we registered. Just something like that. of the nation. John Adams films and the re-registration.
Something like that.
I loved it.
Thank you for that little snippet.
I did a show called Are You Smarter Than a Celebrity?
And it was humiliating.
Yes.
That's demeaning.
It was me and a bunch of celebrities.
And the questions they asked, they did math questions where I was like, oh, no.
And then you try to show your work and then you get lost.
And then it was just so hard.
And I felt so dumb.
Well, I should have been.
It's because I wasn't on that show.
Because had I been on that show, you would have felt so smart.
I don't know.
I think we all would have felt dumb.
It hasn't come out yet.
It was announced.
So I can talk about it. Oh, my God.
I'm going to watch every fucking episode of that.
That is so.
Well, it's hosted by Travis Kelsey.
And he was so delightful.
He didn't know a bunch of stuff either.
Like, I'd be like, after we finish, I'd be like, did you know that?
He was like, no.
Oh, my God.
Are you in more than one episode?
Or is it like kind of a thing where you have to keep coming back?
I think I'm in five or ten.
And I think there's 20 altogether.
So I'm in like half of them. Oh you have to keep coming back uh i think i'm in five or ten and i think there's 20 altogether so i'm in like half of them that's intense because if you don't run punches lala lala kent uh this guy uh named ryan fitzpatrick who's a football player and he knew
everything oh wow he went to harvard okay that's see's unfair. Were you allowed to use calculators?
No.
Because they didn't say that.
No.
We just had little workspaces where we had to write things.
Your teachers say you won't have a calculator everywhere you go.
Now we do, bitch.
We do.
Football player who went to Harvard is the perfect segue to bring us back to
Rudy, the football player who went to Notre Dame. So yes, let's take a quick break. We're
going to be back with all the Rudy you can stomach. And we have a quick word from our sponsor.
Ready?
boy oh boy we're back from our fun break rudy was released uh right before halloween october 15th 1993 it was written by angelo i almost just said pizza pizzo pizzo pizzo pizza directed by david and paul it's spelled phonetically for me and i still think i fucked
it up okay this is a perfect movie for the fall because it's very fall looking in the midwest
yes film um i am from illinois i felt immediately connected to the scenery um let's jump into the
plot of course chime in anywhere you want to discuss these moments because this movie, I, you know,
I've heard about this movie my entire life.
Same.
It's like, everyone's always like referencing this.
It's sort of like, you know, I know that something big happens in the game.
Like my whole life I've been like, he does a thing in a game.
The fact we don't get to that game.
Like we don't get to that game like we
don't get to him playing football for a long time for a long time and boy does he want that is so
sad it's so it's also so i was watching this movie and i was like is the water boy a parody of this
i googled that and it didn't seem to connect, but maybe it was never said. But it feels such like a parody because he's like, all he wants to do is play foosball.
And all Rudy wants to do is play foosball at Notre Dame.
It's so weird watching it this many years later because when I first saw it, I was a kid and I loved it.
And watching it now, I'm like like what did i love about it like i
because it it's like kind of it's not bad it's just the same thing over like he but he wants
to go to notre dame he wants to go he doesn't he doesn't go off the path at all he doesn't like
ever stop talking about it he never has like another thing he's interested in he even has a girlfriend and all she hears about is Notre Dame I'm like buy a house
and he's like I know but he doesn't even care and then when he comes back he's like upset that his
brother's with his girlfriend but like he just but also I was like why would you do that that's
so let's kind of fucked up okay the... In the late 1960s,
we're in Joliet, Illinois.
Daniel Eugene Rudy Rudiger.
I mean, what? It is a real person,
right? That's a real person?
It's based on a real person.
If your last name is Rudiger
and you name your son Rudy, you don't
like them.
It's not his name. It's his nickname.
Nickname.
You guys, that's how I feel jeopardy oh my god i thought the whole movie i'm like i can't believe his name is rudy well every name in this is really crazy because we also have d-bob later
which we'll get to i truly was i had to rewind it to be like are they calling this man d-bob i put
out i had the captions and i was like, D-Bob.
So Sean Astin, who is, you know, we know him from Lord of the Rings.
He's our good friend from Lord of the Rings.
He's our little hobbit.
We did a whole season on that, Emily.
He dreams of playing football at Notre Dame.
We could stop talking here.
That's it.
Yeah.
And that's the movie.
However, he lacks the grades and money to attend and the talent and the physical stature to play major college football.
He has nothing going for him.
Following high school, Rudy works at a steel mill.
Wait, hold on.
This teacher in his high school is abusive.
This man is so mean to him.
He's like, you fucking idiot.
And then he's like, you can't get on a bus.
You're a dumbass. I was like, I would just get on get on the bus i would be like you're not the boss of me
i'm getting on this fucking bus what are you going to sightsee do you have friends at notre dame
you'll never get into notre dame i know i couldn't believe it so okay he works at a steel mill with
his father ned ned beady ned beady ned baby that's how you say that
right baby a notre dame fan and his older brother frank and his dad loves watching uh football on
his little black and white tv and and and rudy's always like i'm gonna play and everyone's like
shut up you're not gonna do rudy you fucking dumbass you little idiot his best friend
pete christopher reed that character was annoying me no no i love that character that character
loved rudy in a way that nobody else did everyone was so mean to rudy
was there at the steel mill and he gives me i got a birthday present he's like what day is it
august 23rd you know what that means it's my
birthday
he's like I got
you a present and
he pulls it out
and his reaction
to this jacket is
like he's like
oh like he's
like he's fine
like I'm just
like I don't know
how to ever
repay you
oh
this is amazing
and then he
pulls him up
yeah oh yeah
it is brutal
he blows him up
he's like also
their little fingies are dirty he's like also their little fingers are dirty
he's like this jacket's so wonderful wow and he puts it on wow where did you get it from he's
like i just saw it in the window and i thought of you rudy and then you had to have it i'm like
probably spent all his money on that and he also talks about with his friend that
he saved a thousand dollars like the friend was like he's like i've saved money he's like how much
eight yes eight a dollar he's like a thousand he's like wow you could really do a lot with that
so yeah so then they're working in the steel mill and then there's this chaos i didn't really
understand what their job was i don't really get what a steel mill there was yeah like there's this chaos. I didn't really understand what their job was. I don't really get what a steel mill. There was hotness.
There's pipes.
It's a lot of smoke.
Pressure.
And then Pete's like,
I need the water.
And then he's like,
the water's not coming.
He's like,
I need it.
And he's like,
get away,
get away.
And he like,
won't get away from the thing,
which is like,
if you're working in like the most explosive place ever,
I feel like anytime you have an opportunity to leave,
you probably should just go away from whatever's about to happen.
I'll tell you something.
I'm not dying for any job. If something is is going wrong i'm not trying to fix it i'm gonna say
not not for me somebody else got to get in here i'm not no i pretty much agree with you i feel
that nobody should have been standing there at that time it obviously was they if they know
anything about their job which i don't it seems like you can't get the water down it's gonna explode okay he blows up and flies down it was kind of funny
i totally forgot about that in the movie and it was so weird because all i remembered about rudy
was rudy and then his friends get set on fire. His friends blew up and tossed.
It was like a horizontal toss.
It was wild.
So
then Rudy's really sad
and he goes to the funeral and then he decides to follow
his dream and leave town. He says goodbye
to his family and his girlfriend Sherry who's
Lily Taylor who is, I love her.
I love Lily Taylor too.
Fantastic. She's like wasted in this movie
yes she is she's like I trying to buy the house he's like no I just don't understand him being
like I'm leaving pussy to go not play football to go pretend that I'm gonna go play football
the presumption that this character has is out of control he has no skills right no no
skill i do you think this is why men are so blindly confident in things they all watched
rudy and they were like if rudy can do it i can do it can do it anyone can do anything
but yeah you know what is such a male story and i mean not to be like whatever but
it's like he finagles his way into this he has no skills he has no ability and he convinces even
down to the end that they should just let him play even when he shouldn't he's not playing he's not a
player he basically just goes please let me because i want to like impress my dad and like i just yeah and also i really need this or whatever like and then all the other players like
lift him up and bring him on the field and they're like i want rudy to take my place but
why because he's bad at it because they want to lose the game they feel bad we gotta wait we gotta
get there okay because there's so much more there's so much more build so much no there's so much more build up of wanting this.
In
1972, Rudy visits
Notre Dame in the middle of the night.
It's like 3 a.m.
The guard is like,
there's no one in admissions. He's like,
please, there's got to be somebody.
He's like, it's not open. He's like, please.
He's like, go see a priest.
By the way out the priest
the priest by the way the priest is also the person who told him to go alone oh oh yeah
these priests are very um like the especially this one that he goes to talk to right now he's
really like a guy he's like a guy from i don't know he's like not priestly to me he's very much
like like a football watching kind of guy. Doesn't he feel that way?
But he told him to just go to Notre Dame and just go. And then he's,
he's over there. It's three. I'm the guy's like, there's nobody to talk to.
He's like, there must be someone I can speak with. Please just let me,
he wants to talk to the admissions officer in the middle of the night at like
3am. It's, it's crazy. And then he doesn't know how college works.
It's so wild. But then they were't know how college works he's like so wild but then they
were like you're too dumb to get in um and then with the help of a local priest and former noturname
president father john cavanaugh robert prosky rudy enrolls at nearby holy cross college with
hopes to transfer he approaches fortune charles s dutton head groundskeeper this is so wild to me
at the notre dame stadium and is given a job.
He literally can't do anything.
And he's like, stop annoying me.
Stop being on this field.
And he's like, give me a job then.
And he's like, okay.
So he's homeless.
Everyone gives in to what Rudy wants.
Yes.
It's so nuts.
Rudy gets what he wants.
Yeah.
Rudy's homeless.
And he sneaks into Fortune's office through a window to sleep on a cot.
And I love that he's like, so why do you sleep on this cot?
And he's like, no, it's for my sciatica.
And he's like, cool, I'll sleep here.
I know.
He's like, I have it for my sciatica.
Yeah.
And then Rudy sees his opportunity.
He's like, I'll be using this later.
Yes.
I'm going to sleep here.
So Fortune later leaves Rudy with blankets and a key to the office.
I love when Rudy's like, thanks for the key and the blanket.
He's like, I don't know nothing about that. He's like, but there's a key to the office. I love when Rudy's like, thanks for the key and the blanket. He's like, I don't know nothing about that.
He's like, but there's a key and a blanket?
I said I didn't know
nothing about that.
Rudy's so stupid.
I know, he's not hip to what's going on at all.
Rudy learns that
Fortune, despite working at the stadium for years,
has never seen a Notre Dame
football game.
Now that seems impossible.
Well, you get the whole surprise.
You gotta watch her.
We do get to our surprise.
Okay, so Rudy befriends teaching,
oh, I didn't realize he was a teaching assistant.
So he's like a little older?
Or no, do you not have to be older for that?
Yeah, a little.
Well, I think they're the same age
because remember, Rudy is 22 years old.
That's another problem.
Oh my God.
Yeah, because when he's working at the steel mill and he said he was 22, I was like. That makes it so much worse. That's another problem. Oh my God.
When he's working at the steel mill and he said he's 22,
I was like,
no,
I know when he says he's 22,
I go,
Oh,
the dream's over.
How's he going to figure this out?
You missed it.
22 years old.
I missed that part.
Yeah.
Cause I thought he was even like dumb for 17.
Right.
No,
he's 22.
So he befriends D Bob. Okay. A name that's not explained. No, he's 22. So he befriends D-Bob.
Okay, a name that's not explained.
John Favreau.
And I was excited it was John Favreau.
Who helps him study in return for Rudy's helping him socially with girls.
Now, why is D-Bob? But this is so wild.
Why did D-Bob look at this man and go, he can help me get girls?
He's the one.
You know what it was?
He sees him talking to a cute girl
and then he goes like,
oh, he must get girls all the time.
And it's like the jump to,
like the leap to that is just crazy.
But like, he's like,
you got to help me.
And then Rudy's like,
I don't know any girls.
And then D-Bob's like,
then I can't help you.
And then Rudy's like,
I know girls.
I know girls.
And he just like makes it happen.
So wild.
He's ridiculous. So D- tests rudy for a learning disability okay which is nice that's the only nice thing anyone's ever done for him to be like
hey buddy there's a reason for all this i know the results indicate
the results indicate that rudy suffers from dyslexia which he then overcomes to become a
better student so that's why he was getting poor grades he didn't know he was dyslexic so
that was helpful D-Bob and D-Bob is like he literally can't speak like like Rudy goes and
talks to a girl for him and he's like he's like go wave at my friend and D-Bob's like hi it's like
he's actually when you see him get a girlfriend
later he's like so suave with her yes that it's like hilarious I think it's supposed to be comedy
but I don't know okay I think it's supposed to be so at Christmas Rudy returns home to find that
his family appreciates his college academic achievements
although his brother frank still mocks him for his attempt to play college football
even losing his girlfriend to his older brother johnny does not deter rudy he just goes for a run
this is what kills me this is what kills me because i'm like okay first of all his family
his brother's still shitting on him which he he should i mean at this point you're going like
you're still talking about this.
Like it would be annoying.
And you know,
you know,
he's not good at football.
So you're like,
whatever.
But then to date his girlfriend and to have it be a surprise,
all of that was wacko.
And I was like,
and then,
and then Rudy doesn't even say anything.
I'm like,
this could be a plot.
You could talk about this.
No,
I'm just going to keep talking about Notre Dame.
We could have a B storyline, you know?
And they said, we won't.
Like you're in love with her or something?
We won't.
No.
Yeah.
He doesn't feel anything about Sherry, I feel like,
which is okay.
But the music does a lot of the feeling for you.
The music tells you you're supposed to feel this way
at that certain time,
which confused me because I felt like he didn't.
That's true. It's like the editor
was like, we need to feel something
here because Rudy clearly doesn't care.
He just cares
about football.
This is the most one-track mind person
I've ever seen in a film. Not just football.
He doesn't even care about football, actually.
He just wants to be
Notre Dame.
It is so specific.
And that's also part, I mean, it's part of what makes it come true.
It's kind of like a vision board.
It's like if you're really specific about your dream, it's more likely to happen.
But he might have had more success if he just let it be a little more open-ended
because maybe he would have gone and played football somewhere else.
Yeah, maybe the NFL.
Yeah, he could have done it.
You don't have to have good grades to make that happen.
All right.
Well, so he has this part.
I couldn't believe how long this went on.
So after two years at Holy Cross and three rejections from Notre Dame.
He keeps going to his mailbox.
I'm like, it's a small letter.
First of all, usually that means you didn't get in.
If it's just a piece of paper and not an envelope of information, like a big, you know, 8x10. Yeah, like instructions. means you didn't get in. If it's just a piece of paper and not an envelope of information,
like a big, you know, eight by ten.
Yeah, like instructions on what to do.
Yeah.
So he's like, he's like, he's like, he reads it out loud every time too.
Which is very funny.
Well, he's just practicing.
He's practicing his reading skills.
Yeah.
He's like, Mr. mr rudiger you did not get
into notre dame oh and then he gets upset and he's like a little more upset every time he keeps
trying so hard yeah and then the third one or the fourth one he's finally admitted and he cries so
hard i i almost cried because i just i felt something in that moment but i also almost laughed because it
was really ridiculous it was so silly boohooing on your fourth attempt okay
he was like reading it out loud and he's admitted so that that's just step one or i guess it's step 20
but he finally gets into notre dame but he it's he wants to get on the team um by the way before
he even does this when he's not even a student there he tricks that girl into letting him go
spray paint the football helmets of the
players at notre dame oh yeah she kept asking do you do you go to notre dame
and he's like not yet and she's like then you can't be a part of the booster club and he's like
please please and guess what women are the only people who don't give him what he wants it's so
true the girlfriend that girl oh my god even when he was following her
to get her to like talk to him about how cool it was that they were going to spray paint the
football he's like mary mary mary mary mary for so long she was gone yes the shot was like a one
shot where he's walking through all these different areas i'm like like, she left, sweetie pie. She can't hear you and she doesn't want to hear you.
She doesn't want to do it.
And he's not trying that hard.
He could have caught up to her,
but he's just this perfect distance away from her
for like a Russian arc length of one shot.
It's so true.
He's like, Mary, Mary, Mary.
I'm like, it's a loud space.
She can't hear you.
So he's finally admitted to the school and he attends football
tryouts in the hope of making the team as a walk-on which is so funny because like i was
just like oh wait so he has to like just hopefully get in that way when they've already picked the
team right all right because it took him so long he's so late so assistant coach joe yanto warns
the walk-ons that 35 scholarship players will not even make the dress roster of players who take the
field during games i don't know what that means it's i think you don't get to wear the uniform
like you don't get to dress up in the costume yeah you don't get to wear you don't even get
to wear the costume you have to wear your street clothes. And he notices Rudy's determination.
He gives him a spot.
The other coach does not want this.
He's like, no, he sucks.
He's little and dumb.
No.
This was the way life worked, though, that you just like, I want it.
I want it.
I want it.
And then people, OK, you know it's CEO of the company.
So nice.
And honestly,
they were like the man,
the boy with the blood on the uniform,
let's give him a spot.
And I was like,
you were literally pointing out that he is wrecked.
He's doing worse.
Battered this man.
He's not doing good.
No,
but he gives him a spot on the daily practice squad and rudy persuades fortune to promise to
see rudy's first game please and i love that fortune's like fine i'll do it i'll never have
to go yeah it's a promise i don't have to keep yeah so rudy convinces head coach ara paris
to let him suit in it was something like Parmesan when he said it, but.
Par-ma-gee-an.
To let him suit up for one home game in his senior year.
Par-ma-gee-gan retires following the 1974 season and is replaced by former Green Bay Packers head coach Dan Devine,
who refuses to put Rudy on the game day roster.
Frustrated by not being on the dress list for the last home game,
Rudy quits
the team which i was like after all of this i'm like keeping on the team you don't know like let's
see what happens like i felt like the so he the coach who was like really nice to him leaves and
so he's like then the one who knows things and it was like with coaching the green bay packers is
like you're not gonna play like there's a level I'm trying to get to here.
And he's like so upset he quit.
It's just like so babyish.
And I don't get why the rest of the team, though,
when he comes back is like doing that slow clap
for somebody who quit the team
when they weren't even wanted on the team.
They like wind their way into the team.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
And then this this uh recap
doesn't add uh vince vaughn i think i'm going back was yeah was like mean to him and and then
they were like you don't have the heart rudy has you could have been a better player if you had
rudy's heart and i was like what i know i know everyone's like weirdly nice even when those
football players were like it seemed that they were to beat him up in the parking lot.
And then he was like,
he like kind of said something.
They're like,
okay,
I see your point.
I'm like,
like me.
And they were like,
I guess we should.
And I was like,
what?
Also Vince Vaughn.
Vince Vaughn.
My God.
That's what I was going to say.
Whoa.
So.
I paused.
And I was like,
is that Vince Vaughn?
I Googled.
I'm all over the place. Yeah. I Googled Vince Vaughn. I was like, is that Vince Vaughn? I googled, I'm all over the place.
Yeah, I googled Vince Vaughn.
I was like, what a babe.
Very handsome man.
In such a like, I don't know, like tall, dark and mysterious way.
I was like, wow.
He's super hot.
And that's where he met Jon Favreau.
And that's how they ended up doing Swingers together.
Which I was like, how funny.
They had no days together on set. I don't think they had a swingers together. Which I was like, how funny. They had no days together on set.
I don't think they had a single scene together.
I thought that they were friends before
and that Jon Favreau got him the job on that.
Oh, maybe that's true.
I googled it and it said they met there,
but that could have just been because I googled,
did they meet on Rudy or something?
Who knows?
Maybe there's something.
You let the witness.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my God.
Also, Jon Favreau, kind of a cutie.
He's cute, too.
That's also why it was silly that he could never get a girl.
I was like, he's just a cute, normal guy.
I don't know.
And also, Sean Astin, also a cutie.
A little compacted cutie.
And I like the way he walks.
Because he's in the Michael J. Fox category.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Lawrence.
Yes.
Kind of raspy. Yes. Fox category. Yes. Yeah. Lawrence. Kind of raspy.
Yes.
Oof.
Okay.
So Fortune finds a distraught Rudy
and reveals that he had actually played
for Notre Dame years earlier.
So this was the part where I was like,
is it an ever saw game?
Then you're like,
he actually played.
He's better than you, Rudy.
Yeah.
You think,
oh, he's going to come to my game.
No, he's played.
He's played.
So Fortune quit the team
because he felt his skin color kept him from playing.
He's regretted this decision ever since.
Okay, but here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
I was like, wait a minute.
What are we doing?
Most of the NFL is black.
What story are we trying to tell?
But would it be because at Notre Dame, it's like super like Irish or something or I don't know.
Maybe.
Is that even accurate?
I do think racism exists.
I feel like in sports people are like, I may not like a black guy, but I want to win.
I'll put him in there.
Like that's what I kind of feel like.
And I was like, I don't know.
That feels so insane that that's what he went with and then quit?
Yeah. I mean, I'm curious know. That feels so insane that that's what he went with. And then quit? Yeah.
I mean, I'm curious if is Fortune a real person?
Ooh, I don't know.
How did they know that?
Oh, he is?
Fortune is real, and that's his real name?
Yeah.
I don't know if that's his real name, but there was a Fortune figure.
It can't be, because he's a magical Negro, and his name is Fortune.
That did cross my mind that I couldn't believe his name was Fortune.
I was like, this is Fortune. That did cross my mind that I couldn't believe his name was Fortune. I was like, this is insane.
Okay, so reminded that he has nothing to prove to anyone but himself
and will forever regret quitting because Fortune told him.
Rudy returns to the team.
Each of his fellow seniors, led by team captain and All-American Roland Steele,
lines up to lay their jerseys on Devine's desk.
Each player requests that Rudy be allowed to dress in his place for the season's final game.
Devine lets Rudy suit up against Georgia Tech.
I really did love when Ronald or whatever was like, I want Rudy to wear my uniform.
He was like, what are you talking about?
What?
You're the best player we have.
You're a captain.
What are you doing?
Don't do that do that like whoever's
the worst should give up their spot yeah yeah and then they all give up their spot like yeah
so it's just rudy playing alone yeah yeah wearing 12 uniforms wait lord that would be so funny
that would be amazing he's just he's just a like jersey. Like you can't see him in anything else.
He layered all the jerseys and he's like, I'm everyone.
I'm everyone and I'm going to win.
Some of those actors seem like maybe they were real football players because they were like, I want Rudy to do it.
Like they didn't know how to act.
Yeah, yeah.
Rudy can do it.
Thank you.
So Rudy like goes home and he's like, I am going to play.
Don't worry.
Or did he make a phone call?
Something.
Oh, yeah.
He's like that phone call was kind of crazy to me because it's like this entitlement of like, you have to come see me play.
I'm going to like you have to come.
It's all about him being like seen on the football field.
It's not about the love of the game.
It's not about.
No.
Anyway, I know.
He just wants to come out of that tunnel. It's never about playing. He wants his dad to see him. Yeah, it's not about the love of the game it's not about no anyways it was i know he just wants to come out of that tunnel it's never about he wants his dad to see him yeah it's about
it's a dad i think when i when i have heard of this movie i always thought like he catches the
winning pass or like whatever the thing is like like he makes the final touchdown like he doesn't
actually play well no and at one point he's on the field and goes what do i do
i laughed so hard i was like wait so after all these years he doesn't know what to do
oh oh i forgot to talk about how when he is with fortune and he gets up and makes that speech
oh and he does like he does he made it when he was a kid. He's like, get out there, team.
He's so, he's like crazy.
He like stands up on the soapbox.
He's like, get out there, guys,
and show them what you got.
And like Fortune's watching him like,
God, this kid's dumb.
He's like, you could do it.
And when we go back, we'll make all the touchdowns.
And we'll always do it.
And we'll always get all the touchdowns.
I'm like, just, you're delusional.
Stop.
But he's better at. And he is it.
But like,
why didn't he chase that dream of being that announcer guy?
He should have been the coach.
Oh my God.
Since he was.
Whoa.
Being an announcer would have been such a great twist.
Yes.
Oh,
it would have been so cool.
And he's been the Notre Dame announcer for the last 62 years.
Yeah.
That would have been cool.
Instead,
his brothers went to college
the real man who this is based on should have done that yeah um so okay with rudy's family
and d-bob still can't believe that that's that man's name and he strolls up with a cigar and a
woman i love it i love it he's like i'm a man now. And then he goes to Miami. So he had to like,
uh,
fly back up,
I guess.
Um,
steel invites Rudy to lead the team onto the field.
I was like,
why?
So fortune is there to see the game as promise with Notre Dame leading 17 to
three in the fourth quarter.
This is so funny.
They're like,
did fortune so hard?
I don't think so.
I don't think so. And I think he's allowed to watch whatever game he wants. He's're like, did fortunate have a seat? We're winning so hard. I don't think so. No, I don't think so.
And I think he's allowed to watch whatever game he wants.
He's just like,
I work here.
Yeah.
It's so funny.
Okay.
So divine sends all the seniors into the game,
except for Rudy,
which is so funny to be like,
okay,
we're winning so hard.
There is no chance for them to win.
All the seniors have your fun time,
except for you,
Rudy,
despite steel and the assistant coaches urging fans are aware of Rudy's
goal from the story in the student newspaper.
What do you mean?
How do we know that?
Everyone's obsessed.
A Rudy champ begins in the stadium.
Hearing this,
the Notre Dame defense led by tailback,
Jamie O'Hara overrules divine's call for a victory formation and scores a quick touchdown.
This gives defensive player Rudy a chance to get in the game and be entered into the fighting Irish roster.
Devine finally lets Rudy play on the Notre Dame kickoff to Georgia Tech.
I love this.
The announcer's like, there's a mumbling of sorts.
I'm not sure what they're saying.
Oh, they're saying Rudy.
And then at one point, I texted you this
one. At one point, it looked like
Rudy was about to start chanting his own name.
He seemed like a little confused
about what was going on. Everyone's going,
Rudy, Rudy. And he's looking around like,
Rudy, Rudy. Oh, that's me.
Oh, oh.
I'm so
scared. He is, uh,
I'm so scared. He is. I'm so scared.
He's,
he's truly crazy.
Okay. So Rudy stays in for the final place,
sacks the Georgia tech quarterback and has carried off the field on his
teammates shoulders to cheers from the stadium.
Listen,
I think that quarterback let him do that.
Like,
I think everyone was like,
okay,
we're going to do this for this little guy.
Everyone was,
and it's sweet, but everyone was pitying him.
That's why they gave him their uniform.
That's why they're like, let him play, let him do it.
Like, I'll give up anything for him to do it.
And it's like, because they're just kind of like,
also, we can't keep hearing about this.
Like, he needs to have this moment,
or like, it will always kind of go like,
oh, it feels kind of bad that we didn't help that guy
when he really needed it.
But what I don't get is there was nothing like,
he wasn't disabled or something where he wanted to play and overcome this obstacle.
He was just like a little guy.
No, it was honestly that he just wasn't very good.
He was just like a little guy who had trouble reading.
And that's it.
He wasn't very good at football.
And like that's, and he really wanted to play football.
And that's to me a tough one because I'm kind of like,
you don't really get, it just doesn't happen very often in life.
Why didn't he, in the three years he was in community college,
why didn't he lift weights?
Why didn't he do running?
Why didn't he do, we don't see him try to get bigger or stronger or faster.
He literally is just a punching bag. And at one point he's like, don't go he wasn't training he's not training bigger or stronger or faster no he literally is
just a punching bag and at one point he's like don't go soft on me it's like okay is this a kink
you're just like your kink is the fighting irish and getting beat up like is that is that what's
for you it's true because he you think it's going to be like a movie montage where he's
training to get ready so that by the time they accept him, he's like fucking
awesome at football. And it just was
not the case. It's like he's still equally
bad. He just wants it so bad.
And it's just his dad watched
football. It wasn't his dad went
to Notre Dame. His dad was the...
Nobody... It's just his dad
watched football on TV.
Like everyone else's dad.
And his dad wouldn't even go to the game until the end.
But he's like, I'm not going to go.
I like watching it on my TV.
And I'm like, this attitude, I can't take it.
I guess I'm like, he's saying go see a game in real life.
You love it so much.
He's like, no, I like to sit in my chair.
I love sitting in my chair, being at home with my sons and my son's girlfriend who's getting passed around the family.
So then there's the epilogue,
which I loved so much
because it was so specific
and I couldn't,
I just was like, what?
Okay, so an epilogue states
that since 1975,
no other Notre Dame player
has been carried off the field
as of the time of the film's release in 1993.
Maybe it's happened since then. And theny graduated in 1976 and five of his younger brothers went on to earn
college degrees i have two questions this yeah okay first of all you're the the only he basically
got like a guinness book of world records like very specific thing like he was the only one to
ever be carried off by 12 people or something that That's like so specific. And then why do we care that his brothers went to college?
I just don't know.
Did he pay for them to go to college from his like.
Maybe it's like they didn't have to die in the steel mill.
He opened up the door for education.
Okay.
Okay.
I see that.
Like they were like, we're going to be steel mill kids.
And then they were like, no, we're gonna be steel meal kids and then they were like
no we're gonna
get college
I don't know
it was so
it was so wild
they also didn't
show how many kids
were in that family
because I was like
he had five
there was like
eleven at one point
I thought there were
grandchildren when he
came back for Christmas
yeah
there were so many
kids
wow
so the reception
of this movie
this movie holds
77% on Rotten rotten tomatoes which i find
positively wow but it's because of how you liked it as a kid i feel like i feel like it must be
right well it's so weird to me now because when like before i watched it i was like i love rudy
i love but like what does your kid brain see? Because there's better movies like then,
like The Little Mermaid is like more of a something.
Why does it hold people?
I think people really just love the story of someone trying.
But he didn't try.
No, I think that's what it is.
He just kept saying.
He didn't really do anything.
He just kept saying what he wanted.
He kept getting it.
Yeah.
Um,
so it got primarily positive reviews from critics in 2006.
AFI placed the film on its 100 years,
100 cheers list ranking inspiring films where it landed in the 54th spot.
Number one is it's a wonderful life.
Hmm.
That's the most inspiring movie.
I mean,
it is,
it is,
it is inspiring. That's just like a man who
lives better well it's like he sees what his life would be oh yeah out him and then he's like i gotta
be better and yeah trivia okay in real life dan divine was very supportive of rudy trivia trivia
that's how i introduce segments he was very supportive of rudy andvia. Trivia. That's how I introduce segments. He was very supportive of Rudy
and elected to put him in the game on his own.
Because Divine considered Rudy
a friend, he volunteered to play a villain
in order to get the film greenlit.
Good, good, good, good, good.
There was no obstacle.
Oh my god, that's
so it. The story
has less of a story.
That is so funny.
Can you just be a bad guy in this for two seconds
so I can actually get this made?
Because there's kind of nothing happening here.
Wait, and Dan Devine, is he the one who came from Green Bay Packers?
Whoa, this is so funny.
He was very supportive and elected to put him in the game on his own. That is so funny. He was very supportive and elected to put him in the game on his own.
That is so funny.
That's not interesting enough.
They needed everyone to put their jersey down.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
Was there even chanting?
You got to wonder.
You got to wonder.
Oh, my God.
Wait.
Keep going.
Read the next one.
I love this trivia.
It's so amazing.
According to Rudy, he has no brother named frank in real life the character of frank is
all the people who told rudy he couldn't do it rolled into one person this is incredible so his
family was supportive the head coach everyone he just wasn't good enough and didn't have good grades
oh my god he didn't work at it.
She never watched it football.
He didn't try one time.
She wanted to be in the announcer.
And then he like, yeah.
Oh my God.
I'm obsessed with it.
This is so funny.
This makes the movie so much better because it's like so crazy.
In the final six minutes of the film,
the real life Rudy is a Notre Dame fan sitting in the football stands.
While the crowd is shouting, Rudy, Rudy, the camera points to the crowd, then cuts to a close-up of Rudy's father, quote, and brother.
Daniel Rudy Rudiger can be seen to the left of the father character.
And Rudy is wearing a plaid driving cap and a dark coat with a white fur collar.
Later during the cheering, his father turns and playfully bats at the real Rudy.
Now that's cute.
That must have been a fun scene to shoot.
Wow.
I just want to know how the real Rudy,
like what really happened
that people would be this supportive of this kid?
Like something, the life story has to be better.
I know, because also it's like,
where's the impetus to make the movie?
Like,
I'm sort of like,
I just don't really know.
Like he also didn't come like his only thing that was against him was like
his,
just everything about him.
He didn't come from like a terrible family.
He didn't have to work through anything.
He was the problem.
It's kind of amazing it's really wild let's take a quick break we'll be back with more rudy after this
now we're back with Rudy.
Ooh, so we're going to do the newcomer's draft.
If we were going to recast this movie with present-day actors,
who would we all pick?
Wow.
Okay.
Emily, do you want to go first?
Oh, gosh. Emily, do you want to go first? Gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, wait.
Why don't we do it together?
I've got somebody for Rudy.
I do, too.
Who do you have?
Let's say it on three.
One, two, three.
Timothy Chalamet.
Timothy Chalamet.
Oh, my God.
That's so funny
wow wow that was the best thing that's ever happened
that is so funny i truly i thought you were gonna say somebody else and i was like
whatever you say that's so funny because how. It'll be funny whatever you say. That's so funny.
How funny would it be? Because he has no business
being on that field.
He really doesn't. He's so little.
He's so thin.
I couldn't think of anyone.
I wish you had said
Timothy E. Schaub.
It was honestly amazing.
He's great in that role.
Yes.
Who's the dad?
I would, well, they have to be like.
I just watched Clue, so Martin Mull.
Oh, I love Martin Mull.
Yes, I like that.
The girlfriend, I guess, will do like a Maya Hawk situation.
Okay, okay, that's good.
And then who would be D-Bob? D-Bob. Oh, D-Bob. Okay. Okay. That's good. And then who would be D-Bob?
D-Bob.
Oh, D-Bob.
Oh.
D-Bob.
So he...
I don't...
I can't think of, like, a cuddly, round actor who's younger.
Yeah.
I mean, what about the Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things?
The kid.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Is he old enough, though?
Eh. Yeah, probably. I guess Stranger Things has been on for 32 years they're pretty old just got married i feel like they're all old enough now yeah 11 got married
yeah yeah wow um they must be old enough so and then fortune
um okay so i worked with him on grand crew aaron jennings i think would be very good
oh wait he's um yeah uh oh yeah yeah i think he would be great yeah um but let's see but what
about um oh wait who am i thinking of that was like uh sterling k brown oh sterling k brown would be
great yeah or um what was the lead uh from that movie i'm not helpful um in the movie that
sterling k brown was just in the american fiction the lead of oh i didn't see that. Oh, shit. Jeffrey Wright? Yes, I think he would also
be very good. Oh, totally.
Oh, I want to see that.
Didn't he win an Oscar for that?
It's a delightful movie.
I really liked it.
That's great. Okay, that seems like a good movie.
I feel like we'd watch that. I would definitely watch
Timothee Chalamet talk about wanting to be
I just gotta get to Notre Dame.
And him reading those letters out loud each time i didn't get it i did get it yay
okay it's time for kiss cam name the best smooch from the movie or who you wish you saw smooch on
the big screen guess what rudy never kisses even his name girlfriend kisses anybody but what i want to kiss the idea of
football like he i think if he could he kisses a football though with notre dame well he does rub
that sign you know when he goes in he does does touch the Notre Dame kind of mascot thing.
Almost kisses that.
That's as romantic as it gets.
I wonder if in like, you know how they have like cut scenes from the movie.
I wonder if there's just like scenes where he's like humping the buildings being like, oh, Notre Dame.
Can I talk to someone inside?
I feel like there must be some kind something more with Lily Taylor
and some kind of other
because it feels so
like
there's something missing
I agree
because like
when you see them in school
you kind of don't even get
that they're a couple
and then they're buying
the house
they must have left out
some
some
yeah
what I would call
important storyline
but
well
he was 22 years old
he had been out of high school for a while.
Um,
so like what?
And like four years,
I'm sure that they,
they were like,
let's start a family.
And he said,
okay.
But then was like,
wait,
football,
which is so wild.
I know.
It's so unfair.
Um,
I would have loved if Vince Vaughn kissed anyone in the movie.
That would have been cool.
Yeah.
I would have, there weren cool. There weren't enough
women though, I will say.
No, but it makes sense.
If there was a woman who was in the movie, they'd be like,
you know, I simply don't think
this is a feasible thing for you.
I think maybe we could figure
out a different thing you like.
Maybe you could do like,
start an adult football league.
You don't have to go to notre
dame they could have put all that to rudy but okay oh my god it's the scoreboard it's time
for reviews we are all going to review that this season we're going to read reviews from letterbox
as we love to do and then we will each give the film a one-sentence review ourselves and a star rating.
And if you don't know, Letterboxd is a social platform where people can write reviews of films.
And you can follow us there and see all of our reviews from all of the seasons we've done at Newcomers on Letterboxd.
This first review comes from Sophie.
She gave it four stars.
Did this movie make me cry three times?
Yes.
Yes, it did.
Am I embarrassed by that?
Absolutely not.
Wow, Sophie.
You really gave it up for the film.
I need to know what points we should cry at.
You know what?
I'll tell you where I almost cried.
I almost cried when he got in.
And I almost cried at the end, even though I was kind of like rolling my eyes a little bit
but I don't know I could have cried if I had to I did not cry at all but I will say I was like
sometimes when we watch movies I'm like oh my god and I like simply can't pay attention
but I paid so much attention to this movie because I was like, what? He's not doing anything.
What do you mean?
What?
It kind of felt like a TV movie where it was like,
because it was so simple that you were like, yeah,
I guess I would believe that was like on Lifetime.
Like it was like, it was just a very basic,
like we get point A to point B story here.
But like, yeah, no, this was like a big movie at the time.
And also everyone talks about it.
This was released the same year as What's Love Got to Do With It and Schindler's List. yeah no this was like a big movie at the time and also everyone talks about it yeah yeah released
the same year as what's love got to do with it and schindler's list like what the fact yeah talk
about it in the same like it's like what rudy is a hero the same year as schindler's list that's a
good year of movies wow we got but it does feel like a tv movie in the way that it had to keep
reminding you that he wants to play for Notre Dame because, like, after a commercial break, you have to come back and remind the audience.
So, yeah.
I know.
It was like that.
How did this film get made?
Everyone loves it.
How was it so big back then because like we're I guess I was stupider because I was a kid.
But like was the world stupider that this was an amazing movie?
I don't know. I mean, my husband was like, you shouldn't talk shit about that movie because everyone loves it.
And I was like, well, obviously I'm going to and we're going to say he's like, no, I mean, it's fine.
But he's like, but everyone's going to be like, oh, we love that.
And I'm like, really? I'm so curious if that's going to stay. He's like, no, I mean, it's fine. But he's like, but everyone's going to be like, oh, we love that. And I'm like, really?
I'm so curious if that's going to be the response.
Do you think people are going to be like, I can't believe they shit on Rudy because it's such a good movie?
I think people haven't watched it again because I would have said that when I heard we're watching Rudy.
First thing out of my mouth was, oh, my God, I love Rudy.
Yeah.
Wait.
Okay. I hopped to his Wikipedia page because I was like, how did this movie get made?
Yeah.
So in 2011, Rudiger was charged with securities fraud.
Oh, I saw that.
I saw that.
With his role as chairman of Rudy Beverage Incorporated, the government alleged a pump
and dump scheme and he had to pay $382,000 in
fines. Pump and dump?
What does that mean?
That's breastfeeding, isn't it?
But he felt...
Rudy was breastfeeding.
He was breastfeeding and arrested by the government.
If Rudy can
play for Notre Dame, I believe
he could breastfeed too. If he can get
that far.
He can do whatever he sets his mind yeah whatever he sets his mind to this is so funny so he said go to jail he said um
no I don't think so I think he just had to pay the fines he said I fell into the same obvious
trap the rest of the country had fallen into in all those boom years i shouldn't have been chasing the money i don't know what that means i guess i'm like we'll have to research that
a little more to understand but rudy was basically what he's saying is he committed fraud yes and i
mean some of the stuff in this true story is not true. I know. I'm obsessed with the fact that there basically is no hardship in this film.
It's so funny.
Did he write the book first?
How did this happen?
Because also he didn't go on to play for the NFL.
So it's not like you're going like, here's how he started.
No, his career stopped after he got carried off the field.
He did one game.
His career.
His career was just wanting to play.
He did one game.
And then what did he do for a living besides make his juice company or whatever?
He goes around speaking.
He's a public speaker.
Inspirational speaker.
Yeah, and then he wrote a book.
He wrote Rudy, my story.
All respect to Rudy, the man all due respect um i was we've uh made it very clear that we say whatever we want
but we uh no offense i will say it was an enjoy okay oh yes let's do our reviews okay emily do
you want to go first um no. Okay, I'll go first.
Rudy, I'm going to give it three and a half stars.
A wild movie about nothing that I couldn't stop watching.
Yeah, I like that.
Okay, so it's out of five.
So I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to give it three stars.
Finally got to see this classic that everyone's been referencing.
A movie about a man with a one-track mind who finally gets what he wants.
A story, a tale as old as time.
That sounds like a threat.
A man with a one-track mind who gets what he wants.
They know how to do it.
I'm going to give it three
stars as well, mostly
because I can't deny
that this is a movie that
I and most of the
population loved.
It definitely
doesn't hold up.
But
Sean Astin is really cute like he's cute and
yeah so and then vince vaughn vincent vaughn as he's credited oh oh love to see that you know
i wonder if like you know the movies you were saying nicole that came out at the same time
it's like maybe this was like so sweet comparatively that
it's like compared to Schindler's List yeah that people were like I need just a little a little guy
to win fluff that feels really good and it's sweet and it's wholesome yeah that makes sense
I'll give it that Ali what is your one sentence review of the film? I would also give it three stars.
And I would say when Jon Favreau shouted in the field,
he's so little.
That's the moment that I cried.
I texted Nicole after that and I was like,
I think that must have been improv
because that's too ridiculous to shout.
It was so funny.
He's so little.
That's funny. He was so little.
He was so much smaller
than everybody. I was crying going
he is!
I love this. He's really
short. Oh my god. Will you
send us pictures of these pictures so we can put them
when we post this? That's so cute.
It is very cute. I love that you've
worked with him. Was he kind?
Was he nice?
So kind.
So lovely.
Yeah.
And he was my first kind of bigger,
well, starring role in a movie.
And I was obsessed with Rudy.
He was like, yeah.
Yeah.
That must have been really exciting.
Yeah, it was.
Oh, that's so cute.
I got confused with Sean Astin.
I thought he was turtle
in entourage and i was like because i started watching entourage and i was like wait is that
and then i looked it up and i was like oh whoa i am so far off they look alike they do i can see
thank you thank you very much yeah um i love that you're watching Entourage. That's what I'm saying!
You said I would love it, and you are absolutely right.
When Ari screams at his wife, there's a fucking cab stand on Yucca.
I scream laughed, and I still say it.
I just say it randomly to people and then have to explain it.
I'm going to do a rewatch.
I'm going to do a rewatch.
I often say it's my most toxic trait that I love Entourage.
I love it too.
It's so funny.
And it's of the time.
Oh, it's really fun.
It's really fun.
I went out to dinner last night in Jones in West Hollywood.
And everyone looked like a background actor on Entourage.
I was like, they did such a good job.
They really did.
They nailed it.
Anyway.
Well, it's time to wrap up but Emily
we're so grateful that you joined us
thank you so much for doing this you're delightful
thank you for having me
this was great is there anything you would like to plug
um
not
really you don't have to
you have social media would you like to
plug like your Instagram
sure cause yeah anything I'm plugging usually goes on there.
It's emilyhamshire at instagram.com.
At instagram.com.
Just email that and you will find her.
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And next week,
we're back with A League of Their Own,
which I'm surprised you haven't seen, Lauren.
I don't know why I feel like you would have seen this.
I saw it as a kid,
but I don't remember.
That's a great movie.
Yeah, I don't remember most of it.
I feel like that'll hold up.
That'll definitely hold up.
I'm excited to watch that one.
We'll see you then.
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