Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Rudy (w/ Emily Hampshire)

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

Lauren and Nicole are joined by very special guest Emily Hampshire (Schitt’s Creek) to debrief the classic football film, Rudy. No conversational stone is left unturned, from Rudy’s older... brother stealing his girlfriend (rude!) to Rudy having the impulse to read every single rejection letter out loud (funny!). Who do Lauren and Nicole think should play Rudy in the imaginary 2024 remake? The answer may surprise you. Follow Emily: Instagram, TwitterJoin us next week for our episode covering A League of Their Own! Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. Ready, set, hut! After high school, I'm gonna play football at Notre Dame. Chasing a stupid dream causes nothing but you and everyone around you heartache. Ever since I was a kid, I wanted to go to school here. And ever since I was a kid, everybody said it couldn't be done. I always listened to them and believed what they said.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I don't want to do that anymore. Hey, kid! Not supposed to be here. Not everyone is meant to go to college. I need your help why should I help I just want to be a part of this university and nuts you know a lot of people been telling me that lately sometimes a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Hey you guys, my son's going to Notre Dame. I'm here to play football for the Irish. I wish God would put your heart in some of my players' bodies. You're five feet nothing. A hundred and nothing. And you got hardly a speck of athletic ability. In this lifetime, you don't have to prove nothing to nobody except yourself. A true story from the creators of Hoosiers.
Starting point is 00:01:52 You ready, champ? I've been ready for this my whole life. Welcome to Newcomers, playing for the home team. It's me, Nicole Byer. And me, Nicole Byer. And me, Lauren Lapkus. And of course, we have Coach Allie watching along from the sidelines. This season, we'll be covering 10 of the sports movies that we feel like are cultural touchdowns and have clinched that championship ring. Today, we're going to be watching the iconic football film starring Sean Astin, 1993's Rudy.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Okay. Didn't I keep thinking it was earlier than 93? It seems so much earlier. I thought it was like 85. I can't believe it was made. And guess what? If you want to watch Rudy, it's available for a fee on any of the major streamers. And we're going to spoil it.
Starting point is 00:03:03 We're going to spoil rudy this movie from 1993 so get ready okay we are so excited for our guests playing for the visiting team today we're so excited to have emily hampshire emily's an actor known for her roles in television shows like schitt's creek the rig 12 monkeys and chapel wait Did I say that right? She also portrayed Angelina in the 1998 film Boy Meets Girl opposite Rudy's own Sean Astin. Holy shit. You got the scoop.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Whoa, I didn't know you had that scoop. I thought I was going to surprise you with that scoop. You guys have Wikipedia, don't you? Allie's amazing. She gets all the info. That's crazy Allie's amazing. She gets all the info. That's crazy. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I love this. And that was after I, like, so you guys randomly, I would assume randomly, picked Rudy, like, me to come on here with Rudy. And that was, I loved that movie. I was obsessed with Sean Astin. And then I got to work with him and he didn't know how, because I pretended I wasn't. But guys, I found all my little, this was back in the day of Polaroids.
Starting point is 00:04:15 These are amazing pictures. That one's very funny if you look at the feet. What are you wearing? If you look at the feet. I took off my shoes. To be shorter hey i understand that i'm always i'm always leaning to the left with everyone rudy oh my god rudy okay well what is your relationship to the sport of football? Do you have any connection to football? My connection to football is I like the costumes that they wear.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But whenever I've said I like the costumes, people like their uniforms. So I clearly don't know anything about football. I touchdown. That's about it. You're Canadian. Yeah. So you have that's also there's about it. You're Canadian? Yeah. So you have, that's also, there's no football. I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:12 I think we might have football. There's no football in Canada? I don't know. I wouldn't say there's... It's not England. It's not England. I wouldn't say there's no football, but I would say that is not, our national sport is hockey. You don't have NFL. Yeah. You know what? I know so much about football that I don't like you don't have NFL yeah yeah you know what I know so much about football that I don't even know if we have NFL I love that okay how funny wait Lauren what's
Starting point is 00:05:32 your relationship to football um really none I basically remember playing football in like fifth grade at school like where you had um flag football is that where you have like where it's hanging off you to grab it? That's it. I don't know. I think football is a little, like I mean my family watched it growing up. I'm from Chicago.
Starting point is 00:05:55 The Bears were a big part of my growing up. Like football was on. But I wouldn't say, my family's more of a basketball family so it really wasn't like a huge thing. And maybe, I don't think I ever went to a game. Yeah, my brother played a little bit in middle school or something yeah it's confusing yeah yeah it's so confusing i agree there's a lot about it i don't understand and this movie i wouldn't say it helped
Starting point is 00:06:17 no at all they don't explain football all you know is that he wants play. And it's basically the only thing this guy thinks about. And I can't wait to talk about this. You know what? Before we do, let's do our segment called the shot clock. Now, each of us are going to have 10 seconds on the clock to summarize the film. Allie's going to count us down and start the clock. And you'll hear a buzzer when you run out of time. Okay?
Starting point is 00:06:41 So who wants to go first? I'll go first. Okay, great. All right. And I'm just going to audibly be the buzzer, but I out of time. Okay. So who wants to go first? I'll go first. Okay, great. All right. Uh, and I'm just going to audibly be the buzzer, but I'll hold it up. All right. Three, two, one go. Okay. A little man who loves football so much and he only thinks about football. He leaves a whole ass girl for football. And then he's like, I'm going to go to Notre Dame and doesn't even like have the grace to go to Notre Dame and then he plays football and they carry him okay okay Emily Emily you want to try your hand at this okay okay three two one go little guy dreams big who wants football, blows up his best friend
Starting point is 00:07:25 five a row. Blows up his best friend. Almost forgot about that. It's one of the best moments. Okay, my turn. Ready? Three, two, one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Too small to play? Not on my watch. He's going to go to the big leagues. He's never played. He's going to Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame, Notre Dame. That's good. I failed to mention Notre Dame, which was like the main. It's kind of. Oh, my God. It was like every other word.
Starting point is 00:08:01 When you said not on my watch, I almost passed away. Oh, my God. This movie. Wow. Okay, before we jump in, I also want to ask you because you were on Celebrity Jeopardy and that's my dream. I keep talking about it everywhere I go in case maybe one day it can happen for me. But how was that? Were you nervous?
Starting point is 00:08:22 Okay, so I was so excited. I studied for like a month. I read all the books on it. I started practicing with like a pen for the buzzer because people talked about the buzzer. Now I'm Canadian, so I don't really know. I didn't learn American stuff, but studied really hard. And I actually believed that
Starting point is 00:08:46 I could be a champion. Like, I really believed it. You know what? Have you seen White Men Can't Jump? I haven't. You're Rosie Perez. Oh, really? Oh, God. You are Rosie Perez who studies. Did Rosie Perez become
Starting point is 00:09:02 the second worst contestant in all of Jeopardy history? Because I did. Wait, how do you know? They told you that? They told you you're the second worst? So in the end, they had to, it's for charity, right? In the end, they had to give me money to keep me in the game.
Starting point is 00:09:19 They gave me $500 to keep me in the game. And then, I mean, there was some, like, it was awful. It's way harder when you're there. I'll just say that much. For sure, for sure. Stuff like then after people were online saying how terrible I was,
Starting point is 00:09:37 and I, like, I was. I got things really, really wrong. Like, one of the questions was, like, what's on the back of a quarter? What animal? And I But you don't use quarter. I mean you do. I mean you do
Starting point is 00:09:49 now but you grew up not I don't know what's on the back of a quarter. I said a beaver I think. That's pretty funny. Which is not correct. But then people were like she didn't even know that Antarctica was a continent. And I'm like bitch I didn't even know what a continent is.
Starting point is 00:10:09 It was, yeah, it was an experience. I love it. I highly recommend it for anyone. Did they let you go to the final question? Oh, yeah. Yeah. yeah no that's what they gave me the charity oh i see i see stay in the game yeah i love it i love it it's the pressure is so different when you're when you're on it's so fast at home and you know there's also the risk like when i'm watching at home of course i'm throwing out guesses all the time it's scary to
Starting point is 00:10:43 guess with the buzzer and be wrong like that's yeah you want to feel like you're right but then you're wasting too much time wondering if you're right and then I don't know I also think being Canadian is harder because a lot of the questions are about the presidents like things that I feel like I don't even know from here but like yeah you wouldn't have been learning that at school so no but I learned the press all the presidents in a rap and then what I realized I when I get that question, I didn't have time. I had to rap to get to the answer in my head. Well, you have time now, and I'd really like to hear that rap.
Starting point is 00:11:15 No. Can you do any of it? I don't know. Just a little? No, it's on my Instagram. I did it. Okay. I'll go watch that. It was so traumat Instagram. I did it. Okay. Okay. I'll go watch that.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It was so traumatizing. I blocked it out, but I did really, I had it good. Yeah. I need to study that just in general. I always want to learn the presidents because I feel like I should know this stuff. And a rap would be the only way that's going to get me down to this. George Washington was called the father of the nation. John Adams, we registered. Just something like that. of the nation. John Adams films and the re-registration.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Something like that. I loved it. Thank you for that little snippet. I did a show called Are You Smarter Than a Celebrity? And it was humiliating. Yes. That's demeaning. It was me and a bunch of celebrities.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And the questions they asked, they did math questions where I was like, oh, no. And then you try to show your work and then you get lost. And then it was just so hard. And I felt so dumb. Well, I should have been. It's because I wasn't on that show. Because had I been on that show, you would have felt so smart. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:21 I think we all would have felt dumb. It hasn't come out yet. It was announced. So I can talk about it. Oh, my God. I'm going to watch every fucking episode of that. That is so. Well, it's hosted by Travis Kelsey. And he was so delightful.
Starting point is 00:12:31 He didn't know a bunch of stuff either. Like, I'd be like, after we finish, I'd be like, did you know that? He was like, no. Oh, my God. Are you in more than one episode? Or is it like kind of a thing where you have to keep coming back? I think I'm in five or ten. And I think there's 20 altogether.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So I'm in like half of them. Oh you have to keep coming back uh i think i'm in five or ten and i think there's 20 altogether so i'm in like half of them that's intense because if you don't run punches lala lala kent uh this guy uh named ryan fitzpatrick who's a football player and he knew everything oh wow he went to harvard okay that's see's unfair. Were you allowed to use calculators? No. Because they didn't say that. No. We just had little workspaces where we had to write things. Your teachers say you won't have a calculator everywhere you go. Now we do, bitch.
Starting point is 00:13:19 We do. Football player who went to Harvard is the perfect segue to bring us back to Rudy, the football player who went to Notre Dame. So yes, let's take a quick break. We're going to be back with all the Rudy you can stomach. And we have a quick word from our sponsor. Ready? boy oh boy we're back from our fun break rudy was released uh right before halloween october 15th 1993 it was written by angelo i almost just said pizza pizzo pizzo pizzo pizza directed by david and paul it's spelled phonetically for me and i still think i fucked it up okay this is a perfect movie for the fall because it's very fall looking in the midwest yes film um i am from illinois i felt immediately connected to the scenery um let's jump into the
Starting point is 00:14:21 plot of course chime in anywhere you want to discuss these moments because this movie, I, you know, I've heard about this movie my entire life. Same. It's like, everyone's always like referencing this. It's sort of like, you know, I know that something big happens in the game. Like my whole life I've been like, he does a thing in a game. The fact we don't get to that game. Like we don't get to that game like we
Starting point is 00:14:45 don't get to him playing football for a long time for a long time and boy does he want that is so sad it's so it's also so i was watching this movie and i was like is the water boy a parody of this i googled that and it didn't seem to connect, but maybe it was never said. But it feels such like a parody because he's like, all he wants to do is play foosball. And all Rudy wants to do is play foosball at Notre Dame. It's so weird watching it this many years later because when I first saw it, I was a kid and I loved it. And watching it now, I'm like like what did i love about it like i because it it's like kind of it's not bad it's just the same thing over like he but he wants to go to notre dame he wants to go he doesn't he doesn't go off the path at all he doesn't like
Starting point is 00:15:41 ever stop talking about it he never has like another thing he's interested in he even has a girlfriend and all she hears about is Notre Dame I'm like buy a house and he's like I know but he doesn't even care and then when he comes back he's like upset that his brother's with his girlfriend but like he just but also I was like why would you do that that's so let's kind of fucked up okay the... In the late 1960s, we're in Joliet, Illinois. Daniel Eugene Rudy Rudiger. I mean, what? It is a real person, right? That's a real person?
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's based on a real person. If your last name is Rudiger and you name your son Rudy, you don't like them. It's not his name. It's his nickname. Nickname. You guys, that's how I feel jeopardy oh my god i thought the whole movie i'm like i can't believe his name is rudy well every name in this is really crazy because we also have d-bob later which we'll get to i truly was i had to rewind it to be like are they calling this man d-bob i put
Starting point is 00:16:43 out i had the captions and i was like, D-Bob. So Sean Astin, who is, you know, we know him from Lord of the Rings. He's our good friend from Lord of the Rings. He's our little hobbit. We did a whole season on that, Emily. He dreams of playing football at Notre Dame. We could stop talking here. That's it.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah. And that's the movie. However, he lacks the grades and money to attend and the talent and the physical stature to play major college football. He has nothing going for him. Following high school, Rudy works at a steel mill. Wait, hold on. This teacher in his high school is abusive. This man is so mean to him.
Starting point is 00:17:21 He's like, you fucking idiot. And then he's like, you can't get on a bus. You're a dumbass. I was like, I would just get on get on the bus i would be like you're not the boss of me i'm getting on this fucking bus what are you going to sightsee do you have friends at notre dame you'll never get into notre dame i know i couldn't believe it so okay he works at a steel mill with his father ned ned beady ned beady ned baby that's how you say that right baby a notre dame fan and his older brother frank and his dad loves watching uh football on his little black and white tv and and and rudy's always like i'm gonna play and everyone's like
Starting point is 00:17:59 shut up you're not gonna do rudy you fucking dumbass you little idiot his best friend pete christopher reed that character was annoying me no no i love that character that character loved rudy in a way that nobody else did everyone was so mean to rudy was there at the steel mill and he gives me i got a birthday present he's like what day is it august 23rd you know what that means it's my birthday he's like I got you a present and
Starting point is 00:18:30 he pulls it out and his reaction to this jacket is like he's like oh like he's like he's fine like I'm just like I don't know
Starting point is 00:18:36 how to ever repay you oh this is amazing and then he pulls him up yeah oh yeah it is brutal
Starting point is 00:18:43 he blows him up he's like also their little fingies are dirty he's like also their little fingers are dirty he's like this jacket's so wonderful wow and he puts it on wow where did you get it from he's like i just saw it in the window and i thought of you rudy and then you had to have it i'm like probably spent all his money on that and he also talks about with his friend that he saved a thousand dollars like the friend was like he's like i've saved money he's like how much eight yes eight a dollar he's like a thousand he's like wow you could really do a lot with that
Starting point is 00:19:14 so yeah so then they're working in the steel mill and then there's this chaos i didn't really understand what their job was i don't really get what a steel mill there was yeah like there's this chaos. I didn't really understand what their job was. I don't really get what a steel mill. There was hotness. There's pipes. It's a lot of smoke. Pressure. And then Pete's like, I need the water. And then he's like,
Starting point is 00:19:30 the water's not coming. He's like, I need it. And he's like, get away, get away. And he like, won't get away from the thing,
Starting point is 00:19:35 which is like, if you're working in like the most explosive place ever, I feel like anytime you have an opportunity to leave, you probably should just go away from whatever's about to happen. I'll tell you something. I'm not dying for any job. If something is is going wrong i'm not trying to fix it i'm gonna say not not for me somebody else got to get in here i'm not no i pretty much agree with you i feel that nobody should have been standing there at that time it obviously was they if they know
Starting point is 00:20:01 anything about their job which i don't it seems like you can't get the water down it's gonna explode okay he blows up and flies down it was kind of funny i totally forgot about that in the movie and it was so weird because all i remembered about rudy was rudy and then his friends get set on fire. His friends blew up and tossed. It was like a horizontal toss. It was wild. So then Rudy's really sad and he goes to the funeral and then he decides to follow
Starting point is 00:20:36 his dream and leave town. He says goodbye to his family and his girlfriend Sherry who's Lily Taylor who is, I love her. I love Lily Taylor too. Fantastic. She's like wasted in this movie yes she is she's like I trying to buy the house he's like no I just don't understand him being like I'm leaving pussy to go not play football to go pretend that I'm gonna go play football the presumption that this character has is out of control he has no skills right no no
Starting point is 00:21:09 skill i do you think this is why men are so blindly confident in things they all watched rudy and they were like if rudy can do it i can do it can do it anyone can do anything but yeah you know what is such a male story and i mean not to be like whatever but it's like he finagles his way into this he has no skills he has no ability and he convinces even down to the end that they should just let him play even when he shouldn't he's not playing he's not a player he basically just goes please let me because i want to like impress my dad and like i just yeah and also i really need this or whatever like and then all the other players like lift him up and bring him on the field and they're like i want rudy to take my place but why because he's bad at it because they want to lose the game they feel bad we gotta wait we gotta
Starting point is 00:21:59 get there okay because there's so much more there's so much more build so much no there's so much more build up of wanting this. In 1972, Rudy visits Notre Dame in the middle of the night. It's like 3 a.m. The guard is like, there's no one in admissions. He's like, please, there's got to be somebody.
Starting point is 00:22:19 He's like, it's not open. He's like, please. He's like, go see a priest. By the way out the priest the priest by the way the priest is also the person who told him to go alone oh oh yeah these priests are very um like the especially this one that he goes to talk to right now he's really like a guy he's like a guy from i don't know he's like not priestly to me he's very much like like a football watching kind of guy. Doesn't he feel that way? But he told him to just go to Notre Dame and just go. And then he's,
Starting point is 00:22:50 he's over there. It's three. I'm the guy's like, there's nobody to talk to. He's like, there must be someone I can speak with. Please just let me, he wants to talk to the admissions officer in the middle of the night at like 3am. It's, it's crazy. And then he doesn't know how college works. It's so wild. But then they were't know how college works he's like so wild but then they were like you're too dumb to get in um and then with the help of a local priest and former noturname president father john cavanaugh robert prosky rudy enrolls at nearby holy cross college with hopes to transfer he approaches fortune charles s dutton head groundskeeper this is so wild to me
Starting point is 00:23:23 at the notre dame stadium and is given a job. He literally can't do anything. And he's like, stop annoying me. Stop being on this field. And he's like, give me a job then. And he's like, okay. So he's homeless. Everyone gives in to what Rudy wants.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yes. It's so nuts. Rudy gets what he wants. Yeah. Rudy's homeless. And he sneaks into Fortune's office through a window to sleep on a cot. And I love that he's like, so why do you sleep on this cot? And he's like, no, it's for my sciatica.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And he's like, cool, I'll sleep here. I know. He's like, I have it for my sciatica. Yeah. And then Rudy sees his opportunity. He's like, I'll be using this later. Yes. I'm going to sleep here.
Starting point is 00:23:58 So Fortune later leaves Rudy with blankets and a key to the office. I love when Rudy's like, thanks for the key and the blanket. He's like, I don't know nothing about that. He's like, but there's a key to the office. I love when Rudy's like, thanks for the key and the blanket. He's like, I don't know nothing about that. He's like, but there's a key and a blanket? I said I didn't know nothing about that. Rudy's so stupid. I know, he's not hip to what's going on at all.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Rudy learns that Fortune, despite working at the stadium for years, has never seen a Notre Dame football game. Now that seems impossible. Well, you get the whole surprise. You gotta watch her. We do get to our surprise.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Okay, so Rudy befriends teaching, oh, I didn't realize he was a teaching assistant. So he's like a little older? Or no, do you not have to be older for that? Yeah, a little. Well, I think they're the same age because remember, Rudy is 22 years old. That's another problem.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Oh my God. Yeah, because when he's working at the steel mill and he said he was 22, I was like. That makes it so much worse. That's another problem. Oh my God. When he's working at the steel mill and he said he's 22, I was like, no, I know when he says he's 22, I go, Oh,
Starting point is 00:24:51 the dream's over. How's he going to figure this out? You missed it. 22 years old. I missed that part. Yeah. Cause I thought he was even like dumb for 17. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:02 No, he's 22. So he befriends D Bob. Okay. A name that's not explained. No, he's 22. So he befriends D-Bob. Okay, a name that's not explained. John Favreau. And I was excited it was John Favreau. Who helps him study in return for Rudy's helping him socially with girls. Now, why is D-Bob? But this is so wild.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Why did D-Bob look at this man and go, he can help me get girls? He's the one. You know what it was? He sees him talking to a cute girl and then he goes like, oh, he must get girls all the time. And it's like the jump to, like the leap to that is just crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But like, he's like, you got to help me. And then Rudy's like, I don't know any girls. And then D-Bob's like, then I can't help you. And then Rudy's like, I know girls.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I know girls. And he just like makes it happen. So wild. He's ridiculous. So D- tests rudy for a learning disability okay which is nice that's the only nice thing anyone's ever done for him to be like hey buddy there's a reason for all this i know the results indicate the results indicate that rudy suffers from dyslexia which he then overcomes to become a better student so that's why he was getting poor grades he didn't know he was dyslexic so that was helpful D-Bob and D-Bob is like he literally can't speak like like Rudy goes and
Starting point is 00:26:16 talks to a girl for him and he's like he's like go wave at my friend and D-Bob's like hi it's like he's actually when you see him get a girlfriend later he's like so suave with her yes that it's like hilarious I think it's supposed to be comedy but I don't know okay I think it's supposed to be so at Christmas Rudy returns home to find that his family appreciates his college academic achievements although his brother frank still mocks him for his attempt to play college football even losing his girlfriend to his older brother johnny does not deter rudy he just goes for a run this is what kills me this is what kills me because i'm like okay first of all his family
Starting point is 00:26:59 his brother's still shitting on him which he he should i mean at this point you're going like you're still talking about this. Like it would be annoying. And you know, you know, he's not good at football. So you're like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:11 But then to date his girlfriend and to have it be a surprise, all of that was wacko. And I was like, and then, and then Rudy doesn't even say anything. I'm like, this could be a plot. You could talk about this.
Starting point is 00:27:21 No, I'm just going to keep talking about Notre Dame. We could have a B storyline, you know? And they said, we won't. Like you're in love with her or something? We won't. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:32 He doesn't feel anything about Sherry, I feel like, which is okay. But the music does a lot of the feeling for you. The music tells you you're supposed to feel this way at that certain time, which confused me because I felt like he didn't. That's true. It's like the editor was like, we need to feel something
Starting point is 00:27:48 here because Rudy clearly doesn't care. He just cares about football. This is the most one-track mind person I've ever seen in a film. Not just football. He doesn't even care about football, actually. He just wants to be Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It is so specific. And that's also part, I mean, it's part of what makes it come true. It's kind of like a vision board. It's like if you're really specific about your dream, it's more likely to happen. But he might have had more success if he just let it be a little more open-ended because maybe he would have gone and played football somewhere else. Yeah, maybe the NFL. Yeah, he could have done it.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You don't have to have good grades to make that happen. All right. Well, so he has this part. I couldn't believe how long this went on. So after two years at Holy Cross and three rejections from Notre Dame. He keeps going to his mailbox. I'm like, it's a small letter. First of all, usually that means you didn't get in.
Starting point is 00:28:42 If it's just a piece of paper and not an envelope of information, like a big, you know, 8x10. Yeah, like instructions. means you didn't get in. If it's just a piece of paper and not an envelope of information, like a big, you know, eight by ten. Yeah, like instructions on what to do. Yeah. So he's like, he's like, he's like, he reads it out loud every time too. Which is very funny. Well, he's just practicing. He's practicing his reading skills.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Yeah. He's like, Mr. mr rudiger you did not get into notre dame oh and then he gets upset and he's like a little more upset every time he keeps trying so hard yeah and then the third one or the fourth one he's finally admitted and he cries so hard i i almost cried because i just i felt something in that moment but i also almost laughed because it was really ridiculous it was so silly boohooing on your fourth attempt okay he was like reading it out loud and he's admitted so that that's just step one or i guess it's step 20 but he finally gets into notre dame but he it's he wants to get on the team um by the way before
Starting point is 00:29:57 he even does this when he's not even a student there he tricks that girl into letting him go spray paint the football helmets of the players at notre dame oh yeah she kept asking do you do you go to notre dame and he's like not yet and she's like then you can't be a part of the booster club and he's like please please and guess what women are the only people who don't give him what he wants it's so true the girlfriend that girl oh my god even when he was following her to get her to like talk to him about how cool it was that they were going to spray paint the football he's like mary mary mary mary mary for so long she was gone yes the shot was like a one
Starting point is 00:30:38 shot where he's walking through all these different areas i'm like like, she left, sweetie pie. She can't hear you and she doesn't want to hear you. She doesn't want to do it. And he's not trying that hard. He could have caught up to her, but he's just this perfect distance away from her for like a Russian arc length of one shot. It's so true. He's like, Mary, Mary, Mary.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I'm like, it's a loud space. She can't hear you. So he's finally admitted to the school and he attends football tryouts in the hope of making the team as a walk-on which is so funny because like i was just like oh wait so he has to like just hopefully get in that way when they've already picked the team right all right because it took him so long he's so late so assistant coach joe yanto warns the walk-ons that 35 scholarship players will not even make the dress roster of players who take the field during games i don't know what that means it's i think you don't get to wear the uniform
Starting point is 00:31:37 like you don't get to dress up in the costume yeah you don't get to wear you don't even get to wear the costume you have to wear your street clothes. And he notices Rudy's determination. He gives him a spot. The other coach does not want this. He's like, no, he sucks. He's little and dumb. No. This was the way life worked, though, that you just like, I want it.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I want it. I want it. And then people, OK, you know it's CEO of the company. So nice. And honestly, they were like the man, the boy with the blood on the uniform, let's give him a spot.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And I was like, you were literally pointing out that he is wrecked. He's doing worse. Battered this man. He's not doing good. No, but he gives him a spot on the daily practice squad and rudy persuades fortune to promise to see rudy's first game please and i love that fortune's like fine i'll do it i'll never have
Starting point is 00:32:31 to go yeah it's a promise i don't have to keep yeah so rudy convinces head coach ara paris to let him suit in it was something like Parmesan when he said it, but. Par-ma-gee-an. To let him suit up for one home game in his senior year. Par-ma-gee-gan retires following the 1974 season and is replaced by former Green Bay Packers head coach Dan Devine, who refuses to put Rudy on the game day roster. Frustrated by not being on the dress list for the last home game, Rudy quits
Starting point is 00:33:05 the team which i was like after all of this i'm like keeping on the team you don't know like let's see what happens like i felt like the so he the coach who was like really nice to him leaves and so he's like then the one who knows things and it was like with coaching the green bay packers is like you're not gonna play like there's a level I'm trying to get to here. And he's like so upset he quit. It's just like so babyish. And I don't get why the rest of the team, though, when he comes back is like doing that slow clap
Starting point is 00:33:36 for somebody who quit the team when they weren't even wanted on the team. They like wind their way into the team. Yeah. Oh, wait. And then this this uh recap doesn't add uh vince vaughn i think i'm going back was yeah was like mean to him and and then they were like you don't have the heart rudy has you could have been a better player if you had
Starting point is 00:33:56 rudy's heart and i was like what i know i know everyone's like weirdly nice even when those football players were like it seemed that they were to beat him up in the parking lot. And then he was like, he like kind of said something. They're like, okay, I see your point. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:34:09 like me. And they were like, I guess we should. And I was like, what? Also Vince Vaughn. Vince Vaughn. My God.
Starting point is 00:34:16 That's what I was going to say. Whoa. So. I paused. And I was like, is that Vince Vaughn? I Googled. I'm all over the place. Yeah. I Googled Vince Vaughn. I was like, is that Vince Vaughn? I googled, I'm all over the place.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, I googled Vince Vaughn. I was like, what a babe. Very handsome man. In such a like, I don't know, like tall, dark and mysterious way. I was like, wow. He's super hot. And that's where he met Jon Favreau. And that's how they ended up doing Swingers together.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Which I was like, how funny. They had no days together on set. I don't think they had a swingers together. Which I was like, how funny. They had no days together on set. I don't think they had a single scene together. I thought that they were friends before and that Jon Favreau got him the job on that. Oh, maybe that's true. I googled it and it said they met there, but that could have just been because I googled,
Starting point is 00:34:57 did they meet on Rudy or something? Who knows? Maybe there's something. You let the witness. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. Also, Jon Favreau, kind of a cutie. He's cute, too.
Starting point is 00:35:08 That's also why it was silly that he could never get a girl. I was like, he's just a cute, normal guy. I don't know. And also, Sean Astin, also a cutie. A little compacted cutie. And I like the way he walks. Because he's in the Michael J. Fox category. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Yes. Yeah. Lawrence. Yes. Kind of raspy. Yes. Fox category. Yes. Yeah. Lawrence. Kind of raspy. Yes. Oof. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:28 So Fortune finds a distraught Rudy and reveals that he had actually played for Notre Dame years earlier. So this was the part where I was like, is it an ever saw game? Then you're like, he actually played. He's better than you, Rudy.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yeah. You think, oh, he's going to come to my game. No, he's played. He's played. So Fortune quit the team because he felt his skin color kept him from playing. He's regretted this decision ever since.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Okay, but here's the thing. Here's the thing. I was like, wait a minute. What are we doing? Most of the NFL is black. What story are we trying to tell? But would it be because at Notre Dame, it's like super like Irish or something or I don't know. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Is that even accurate? I do think racism exists. I feel like in sports people are like, I may not like a black guy, but I want to win. I'll put him in there. Like that's what I kind of feel like. And I was like, I don't know. That feels so insane that that's what he went with and then quit? Yeah. I mean, I'm curious know. That feels so insane that that's what he went with. And then quit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I mean, I'm curious if is Fortune a real person? Ooh, I don't know. How did they know that? Oh, he is? Fortune is real, and that's his real name? Yeah. I don't know if that's his real name, but there was a Fortune figure. It can't be, because he's a magical Negro, and his name is Fortune.
Starting point is 00:36:41 That did cross my mind that I couldn't believe his name was Fortune. I was like, this is Fortune. That did cross my mind that I couldn't believe his name was Fortune. I was like, this is insane. Okay, so reminded that he has nothing to prove to anyone but himself and will forever regret quitting because Fortune told him. Rudy returns to the team. Each of his fellow seniors, led by team captain and All-American Roland Steele, lines up to lay their jerseys on Devine's desk. Each player requests that Rudy be allowed to dress in his place for the season's final game.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Devine lets Rudy suit up against Georgia Tech. I really did love when Ronald or whatever was like, I want Rudy to wear my uniform. He was like, what are you talking about? What? You're the best player we have. You're a captain. What are you doing? Don't do that do that like whoever's
Starting point is 00:37:26 the worst should give up their spot yeah yeah and then they all give up their spot like yeah so it's just rudy playing alone yeah yeah wearing 12 uniforms wait lord that would be so funny that would be amazing he's just he's just a like jersey. Like you can't see him in anything else. He layered all the jerseys and he's like, I'm everyone. I'm everyone and I'm going to win. Some of those actors seem like maybe they were real football players because they were like, I want Rudy to do it. Like they didn't know how to act. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Rudy can do it. Thank you. So Rudy like goes home and he's like, I am going to play. Don't worry. Or did he make a phone call? Something. Oh, yeah. He's like that phone call was kind of crazy to me because it's like this entitlement of like, you have to come see me play.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I'm going to like you have to come. It's all about him being like seen on the football field. It's not about the love of the game. It's not about. No. Anyway, I know. He just wants to come out of that tunnel. It's never about playing. He wants his dad to see him. Yeah, it's not about the love of the game it's not about no anyways it was i know he just wants to come out of that tunnel it's never about he wants his dad to see him yeah it's about it's a dad i think when i when i have heard of this movie i always thought like he catches the
Starting point is 00:38:34 winning pass or like whatever the thing is like like he makes the final touchdown like he doesn't actually play well no and at one point he's on the field and goes what do i do i laughed so hard i was like wait so after all these years he doesn't know what to do oh oh i forgot to talk about how when he is with fortune and he gets up and makes that speech oh and he does like he does he made it when he was a kid. He's like, get out there, team. He's so, he's like crazy. He like stands up on the soapbox. He's like, get out there, guys,
Starting point is 00:39:10 and show them what you got. And like Fortune's watching him like, God, this kid's dumb. He's like, you could do it. And when we go back, we'll make all the touchdowns. And we'll always do it. And we'll always get all the touchdowns. I'm like, just, you're delusional.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Stop. But he's better at. And he is it. But like, why didn't he chase that dream of being that announcer guy? He should have been the coach. Oh my God. Since he was. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Being an announcer would have been such a great twist. Yes. Oh, it would have been so cool. And he's been the Notre Dame announcer for the last 62 years. Yeah. That would have been cool. Instead,
Starting point is 00:39:44 his brothers went to college the real man who this is based on should have done that yeah um so okay with rudy's family and d-bob still can't believe that that's that man's name and he strolls up with a cigar and a woman i love it i love it he's like i'm a man now. And then he goes to Miami. So he had to like, uh, fly back up, I guess. Um,
Starting point is 00:40:08 steel invites Rudy to lead the team onto the field. I was like, why? So fortune is there to see the game as promise with Notre Dame leading 17 to three in the fourth quarter. This is so funny. They're like, did fortune so hard?
Starting point is 00:40:23 I don't think so. I don't think so. And I think he's allowed to watch whatever game he wants. He's're like, did fortunate have a seat? We're winning so hard. I don't think so. No, I don't think so. And I think he's allowed to watch whatever game he wants. He's just like, I work here. Yeah. It's so funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:34 So divine sends all the seniors into the game, except for Rudy, which is so funny to be like, okay, we're winning so hard. There is no chance for them to win. All the seniors have your fun time, except for you,
Starting point is 00:40:45 Rudy, despite steel and the assistant coaches urging fans are aware of Rudy's goal from the story in the student newspaper. What do you mean? How do we know that? Everyone's obsessed. A Rudy champ begins in the stadium. Hearing this,
Starting point is 00:40:59 the Notre Dame defense led by tailback, Jamie O'Hara overrules divine's call for a victory formation and scores a quick touchdown. This gives defensive player Rudy a chance to get in the game and be entered into the fighting Irish roster. Devine finally lets Rudy play on the Notre Dame kickoff to Georgia Tech. I love this. The announcer's like, there's a mumbling of sorts. I'm not sure what they're saying. Oh, they're saying Rudy.
Starting point is 00:41:23 And then at one point, I texted you this one. At one point, it looked like Rudy was about to start chanting his own name. He seemed like a little confused about what was going on. Everyone's going, Rudy, Rudy. And he's looking around like, Rudy, Rudy. Oh, that's me. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I'm so scared. He is, uh, I'm so scared. He is. I'm so scared. He's, he's truly crazy. Okay. So Rudy stays in for the final place, sacks the Georgia tech quarterback and has carried off the field on his teammates shoulders to cheers from the stadium.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Listen, I think that quarterback let him do that. Like, I think everyone was like, okay, we're going to do this for this little guy. Everyone was, and it's sweet, but everyone was pitying him.
Starting point is 00:42:06 That's why they gave him their uniform. That's why they're like, let him play, let him do it. Like, I'll give up anything for him to do it. And it's like, because they're just kind of like, also, we can't keep hearing about this. Like, he needs to have this moment, or like, it will always kind of go like, oh, it feels kind of bad that we didn't help that guy
Starting point is 00:42:21 when he really needed it. But what I don't get is there was nothing like, he wasn't disabled or something where he wanted to play and overcome this obstacle. He was just like a little guy. No, it was honestly that he just wasn't very good. He was just like a little guy who had trouble reading. And that's it. He wasn't very good at football.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And like that's, and he really wanted to play football. And that's to me a tough one because I'm kind of like, you don't really get, it just doesn't happen very often in life. Why didn't he, in the three years he was in community college, why didn't he lift weights? Why didn't he do running? Why didn't he do, we don't see him try to get bigger or stronger or faster. He literally is just a punching bag. And at one point he's like, don't go he wasn't training he's not training bigger or stronger or faster no he literally is
Starting point is 00:43:05 just a punching bag and at one point he's like don't go soft on me it's like okay is this a kink you're just like your kink is the fighting irish and getting beat up like is that is that what's for you it's true because he you think it's going to be like a movie montage where he's training to get ready so that by the time they accept him, he's like fucking awesome at football. And it just was not the case. It's like he's still equally bad. He just wants it so bad. And it's just his dad watched
Starting point is 00:43:34 football. It wasn't his dad went to Notre Dame. His dad was the... Nobody... It's just his dad watched football on TV. Like everyone else's dad. And his dad wouldn't even go to the game until the end. But he's like, I'm not going to go. I like watching it on my TV.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And I'm like, this attitude, I can't take it. I guess I'm like, he's saying go see a game in real life. You love it so much. He's like, no, I like to sit in my chair. I love sitting in my chair, being at home with my sons and my son's girlfriend who's getting passed around the family. So then there's the epilogue, which I loved so much because it was so specific
Starting point is 00:44:12 and I couldn't, I just was like, what? Okay, so an epilogue states that since 1975, no other Notre Dame player has been carried off the field as of the time of the film's release in 1993. Maybe it's happened since then. And theny graduated in 1976 and five of his younger brothers went on to earn
Starting point is 00:44:29 college degrees i have two questions this yeah okay first of all you're the the only he basically got like a guinness book of world records like very specific thing like he was the only one to ever be carried off by 12 people or something that That's like so specific. And then why do we care that his brothers went to college? I just don't know. Did he pay for them to go to college from his like. Maybe it's like they didn't have to die in the steel mill. He opened up the door for education. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Okay. I see that. Like they were like, we're going to be steel mill kids. And then they were like, no, we're gonna be steel meal kids and then they were like no we're gonna get college I don't know it was so
Starting point is 00:45:08 it was so wild they also didn't show how many kids were in that family because I was like he had five there was like eleven at one point
Starting point is 00:45:14 I thought there were grandchildren when he came back for Christmas yeah there were so many kids wow so the reception
Starting point is 00:45:23 of this movie this movie holds 77% on Rotten rotten tomatoes which i find positively wow but it's because of how you liked it as a kid i feel like i feel like it must be right well it's so weird to me now because when like before i watched it i was like i love rudy i love but like what does your kid brain see? Because there's better movies like then, like The Little Mermaid is like more of a something. Why does it hold people?
Starting point is 00:45:52 I think people really just love the story of someone trying. But he didn't try. No, I think that's what it is. He just kept saying. He didn't really do anything. He just kept saying what he wanted. He kept getting it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Um, so it got primarily positive reviews from critics in 2006. AFI placed the film on its 100 years, 100 cheers list ranking inspiring films where it landed in the 54th spot. Number one is it's a wonderful life. Hmm. That's the most inspiring movie. I mean,
Starting point is 00:46:23 it is, it is, it is inspiring. That's just like a man who lives better well it's like he sees what his life would be oh yeah out him and then he's like i gotta be better and yeah trivia okay in real life dan divine was very supportive of rudy trivia trivia that's how i introduce segments he was very supportive of rudy andvia. Trivia. That's how I introduce segments. He was very supportive of Rudy and elected to put him in the game on his own. Because Divine considered Rudy
Starting point is 00:46:50 a friend, he volunteered to play a villain in order to get the film greenlit. Good, good, good, good, good. There was no obstacle. Oh my god, that's so it. The story has less of a story. That is so funny.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Can you just be a bad guy in this for two seconds so I can actually get this made? Because there's kind of nothing happening here. Wait, and Dan Devine, is he the one who came from Green Bay Packers? Whoa, this is so funny. He was very supportive and elected to put him in the game on his own. That is so funny. He was very supportive and elected to put him in the game on his own. That is so funny. That's not interesting enough.
Starting point is 00:47:28 They needed everyone to put their jersey down. Oh, my God. That's crazy. Was there even chanting? You got to wonder. You got to wonder. Oh, my God. Wait.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Keep going. Read the next one. I love this trivia. It's so amazing. According to Rudy, he has no brother named frank in real life the character of frank is all the people who told rudy he couldn't do it rolled into one person this is incredible so his family was supportive the head coach everyone he just wasn't good enough and didn't have good grades oh my god he didn't work at it.
Starting point is 00:48:06 She never watched it football. He didn't try one time. She wanted to be in the announcer. And then he like, yeah. Oh my God. I'm obsessed with it. This is so funny. This makes the movie so much better because it's like so crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:19 In the final six minutes of the film, the real life Rudy is a Notre Dame fan sitting in the football stands. While the crowd is shouting, Rudy, Rudy, the camera points to the crowd, then cuts to a close-up of Rudy's father, quote, and brother. Daniel Rudy Rudiger can be seen to the left of the father character. And Rudy is wearing a plaid driving cap and a dark coat with a white fur collar. Later during the cheering, his father turns and playfully bats at the real Rudy. Now that's cute. That must have been a fun scene to shoot.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Wow. I just want to know how the real Rudy, like what really happened that people would be this supportive of this kid? Like something, the life story has to be better. I know, because also it's like, where's the impetus to make the movie? Like,
Starting point is 00:49:05 I'm sort of like, I just don't really know. Like he also didn't come like his only thing that was against him was like his, just everything about him. He didn't come from like a terrible family. He didn't have to work through anything. He was the problem.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It's kind of amazing it's really wild let's take a quick break we'll be back with more rudy after this now we're back with Rudy. Ooh, so we're going to do the newcomer's draft. If we were going to recast this movie with present-day actors, who would we all pick? Wow. Okay. Emily, do you want to go first?
Starting point is 00:50:06 Oh, gosh. Emily, do you want to go first? Gosh. Oh, my gosh. Okay, wait. Why don't we do it together? I've got somebody for Rudy. I do, too. Who do you have? Let's say it on three.
Starting point is 00:50:16 One, two, three. Timothy Chalamet. Timothy Chalamet. Oh, my God. That's so funny wow wow that was the best thing that's ever happened that is so funny i truly i thought you were gonna say somebody else and i was like whatever you say that's so funny because how. It'll be funny whatever you say. That's so funny.
Starting point is 00:50:46 How funny would it be? Because he has no business being on that field. He really doesn't. He's so little. He's so thin. I couldn't think of anyone. I wish you had said Timothy E. Schaub. It was honestly amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:02 He's great in that role. Yes. Who's the dad? I would, well, they have to be like. I just watched Clue, so Martin Mull. Oh, I love Martin Mull. Yes, I like that. The girlfriend, I guess, will do like a Maya Hawk situation.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Okay, okay, that's good. And then who would be D-Bob? D-Bob. Oh, D-Bob. Okay. Okay. That's good. And then who would be D-Bob? D-Bob. Oh, D-Bob. Oh. D-Bob. So he... I don't...
Starting point is 00:51:31 I can't think of, like, a cuddly, round actor who's younger. Yeah. I mean, what about the Gaten Matarazzo from Stranger Things? The kid. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Is he old enough, though? Eh. Yeah, probably. I guess Stranger Things has been on for 32 years they're pretty old just got married i feel like they're all old enough now yeah 11 got married
Starting point is 00:51:52 yeah yeah wow um they must be old enough so and then fortune um okay so i worked with him on grand crew aaron jennings i think would be very good oh wait he's um yeah uh oh yeah yeah i think he would be great yeah um but let's see but what about um oh wait who am i thinking of that was like uh sterling k brown oh sterling k brown would be great yeah or um what was the lead uh from that movie i'm not helpful um in the movie that sterling k brown was just in the american fiction the lead of oh i didn't see that. Oh, shit. Jeffrey Wright? Yes, I think he would also be very good. Oh, totally. Oh, I want to see that.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Didn't he win an Oscar for that? It's a delightful movie. I really liked it. That's great. Okay, that seems like a good movie. I feel like we'd watch that. I would definitely watch Timothee Chalamet talk about wanting to be I just gotta get to Notre Dame. And him reading those letters out loud each time i didn't get it i did get it yay
Starting point is 00:53:14 okay it's time for kiss cam name the best smooch from the movie or who you wish you saw smooch on the big screen guess what rudy never kisses even his name girlfriend kisses anybody but what i want to kiss the idea of football like he i think if he could he kisses a football though with notre dame well he does rub that sign you know when he goes in he does does touch the Notre Dame kind of mascot thing. Almost kisses that. That's as romantic as it gets. I wonder if in like, you know how they have like cut scenes from the movie. I wonder if there's just like scenes where he's like humping the buildings being like, oh, Notre Dame.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Can I talk to someone inside? I feel like there must be some kind something more with Lily Taylor and some kind of other because it feels so like there's something missing I agree because like
Starting point is 00:54:12 when you see them in school you kind of don't even get that they're a couple and then they're buying the house they must have left out some some
Starting point is 00:54:19 yeah what I would call important storyline but well he was 22 years old he had been out of high school for a while. Um,
Starting point is 00:54:28 so like what? And like four years, I'm sure that they, they were like, let's start a family. And he said, okay. But then was like,
Starting point is 00:54:33 wait, football, which is so wild. I know. It's so unfair. Um, I would have loved if Vince Vaughn kissed anyone in the movie. That would have been cool.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Yeah. I would have, there weren cool. There weren't enough women though, I will say. No, but it makes sense. If there was a woman who was in the movie, they'd be like, you know, I simply don't think this is a feasible thing for you. I think maybe we could figure
Starting point is 00:54:58 out a different thing you like. Maybe you could do like, start an adult football league. You don't have to go to notre dame they could have put all that to rudy but okay oh my god it's the scoreboard it's time for reviews we are all going to review that this season we're going to read reviews from letterbox as we love to do and then we will each give the film a one-sentence review ourselves and a star rating. And if you don't know, Letterboxd is a social platform where people can write reviews of films.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And you can follow us there and see all of our reviews from all of the seasons we've done at Newcomers on Letterboxd. This first review comes from Sophie. She gave it four stars. Did this movie make me cry three times? Yes. Yes, it did. Am I embarrassed by that? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Wow, Sophie. You really gave it up for the film. I need to know what points we should cry at. You know what? I'll tell you where I almost cried. I almost cried when he got in. And I almost cried at the end, even though I was kind of like rolling my eyes a little bit but I don't know I could have cried if I had to I did not cry at all but I will say I was like
Starting point is 00:56:13 sometimes when we watch movies I'm like oh my god and I like simply can't pay attention but I paid so much attention to this movie because I was like, what? He's not doing anything. What do you mean? What? It kind of felt like a TV movie where it was like, because it was so simple that you were like, yeah, I guess I would believe that was like on Lifetime. Like it was like, it was just a very basic,
Starting point is 00:56:36 like we get point A to point B story here. But like, yeah, no, this was like a big movie at the time. And also everyone talks about it. This was released the same year as What's Love Got to Do With It and Schindler's List. yeah no this was like a big movie at the time and also everyone talks about it yeah yeah released the same year as what's love got to do with it and schindler's list like what the fact yeah talk about it in the same like it's like what rudy is a hero the same year as schindler's list that's a good year of movies wow we got but it does feel like a tv movie in the way that it had to keep reminding you that he wants to play for Notre Dame because, like, after a commercial break, you have to come back and remind the audience.
Starting point is 00:57:12 So, yeah. I know. It was like that. How did this film get made? Everyone loves it. How was it so big back then because like we're I guess I was stupider because I was a kid. But like was the world stupider that this was an amazing movie? I don't know. I mean, my husband was like, you shouldn't talk shit about that movie because everyone loves it.
Starting point is 00:57:37 And I was like, well, obviously I'm going to and we're going to say he's like, no, I mean, it's fine. But he's like, but everyone's going to be like, oh, we love that. And I'm like, really? I'm so curious if that's going to stay. He's like, no, I mean, it's fine. But he's like, but everyone's going to be like, oh, we love that. And I'm like, really? I'm so curious if that's going to be the response. Do you think people are going to be like, I can't believe they shit on Rudy because it's such a good movie? I think people haven't watched it again because I would have said that when I heard we're watching Rudy. First thing out of my mouth was, oh, my God, I love Rudy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Wait. Okay. I hopped to his Wikipedia page because I was like, how did this movie get made? Yeah. So in 2011, Rudiger was charged with securities fraud. Oh, I saw that. I saw that. With his role as chairman of Rudy Beverage Incorporated, the government alleged a pump and dump scheme and he had to pay $382,000 in
Starting point is 00:58:25 fines. Pump and dump? What does that mean? That's breastfeeding, isn't it? But he felt... Rudy was breastfeeding. He was breastfeeding and arrested by the government. If Rudy can play for Notre Dame, I believe
Starting point is 00:58:41 he could breastfeed too. If he can get that far. He can do whatever he sets his mind yeah whatever he sets his mind to this is so funny so he said go to jail he said um no I don't think so I think he just had to pay the fines he said I fell into the same obvious trap the rest of the country had fallen into in all those boom years i shouldn't have been chasing the money i don't know what that means i guess i'm like we'll have to research that a little more to understand but rudy was basically what he's saying is he committed fraud yes and i mean some of the stuff in this true story is not true. I know. I'm obsessed with the fact that there basically is no hardship in this film. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Did he write the book first? How did this happen? Because also he didn't go on to play for the NFL. So it's not like you're going like, here's how he started. No, his career stopped after he got carried off the field. He did one game. His career. His career was just wanting to play.
Starting point is 00:59:49 He did one game. And then what did he do for a living besides make his juice company or whatever? He goes around speaking. He's a public speaker. Inspirational speaker. Yeah, and then he wrote a book. He wrote Rudy, my story. All respect to Rudy, the man all due respect um i was we've uh made it very clear that we say whatever we want
Starting point is 01:00:13 but we uh no offense i will say it was an enjoy okay oh yes let's do our reviews okay emily do you want to go first um no. Okay, I'll go first. Rudy, I'm going to give it three and a half stars. A wild movie about nothing that I couldn't stop watching. Yeah, I like that. Okay, so it's out of five. So I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to give it three stars. Finally got to see this classic that everyone's been referencing.
Starting point is 01:00:49 A movie about a man with a one-track mind who finally gets what he wants. A story, a tale as old as time. That sounds like a threat. A man with a one-track mind who gets what he wants. They know how to do it. I'm going to give it three stars as well, mostly because I can't deny
Starting point is 01:01:11 that this is a movie that I and most of the population loved. It definitely doesn't hold up. But Sean Astin is really cute like he's cute and yeah so and then vince vaughn vincent vaughn as he's credited oh oh love to see that you know
Starting point is 01:01:37 i wonder if like you know the movies you were saying nicole that came out at the same time it's like maybe this was like so sweet comparatively that it's like compared to Schindler's List yeah that people were like I need just a little a little guy to win fluff that feels really good and it's sweet and it's wholesome yeah that makes sense I'll give it that Ali what is your one sentence review of the film? I would also give it three stars. And I would say when Jon Favreau shouted in the field, he's so little. That's the moment that I cried.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I texted Nicole after that and I was like, I think that must have been improv because that's too ridiculous to shout. It was so funny. He's so little. That's funny. He was so little. He was so much smaller than everybody. I was crying going
Starting point is 01:02:31 he is! I love this. He's really short. Oh my god. Will you send us pictures of these pictures so we can put them when we post this? That's so cute. It is very cute. I love that you've worked with him. Was he kind? Was he nice?
Starting point is 01:02:46 So kind. So lovely. Yeah. And he was my first kind of bigger, well, starring role in a movie. And I was obsessed with Rudy. He was like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:59 That must have been really exciting. Yeah, it was. Oh, that's so cute. I got confused with Sean Astin. I thought he was turtle in entourage and i was like because i started watching entourage and i was like wait is that and then i looked it up and i was like oh whoa i am so far off they look alike they do i can see thank you thank you very much yeah um i love that you're watching Entourage. That's what I'm saying!
Starting point is 01:03:26 You said I would love it, and you are absolutely right. When Ari screams at his wife, there's a fucking cab stand on Yucca. I scream laughed, and I still say it. I just say it randomly to people and then have to explain it. I'm going to do a rewatch. I'm going to do a rewatch. I often say it's my most toxic trait that I love Entourage. I love it too.
Starting point is 01:03:46 It's so funny. And it's of the time. Oh, it's really fun. It's really fun. I went out to dinner last night in Jones in West Hollywood. And everyone looked like a background actor on Entourage. I was like, they did such a good job. They really did.
Starting point is 01:04:01 They nailed it. Anyway. Well, it's time to wrap up but Emily we're so grateful that you joined us thank you so much for doing this you're delightful thank you for having me this was great is there anything you would like to plug um
Starting point is 01:04:17 not really you don't have to you have social media would you like to plug like your Instagram sure cause yeah anything I'm plugging usually goes on there. It's emilyhamshire at instagram.com. At instagram.com. Just email that and you will find her.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Everyone out there, please write a review for Newcomers at Apple Podcasts and rate the podcast on Spotify. And next week, we're back with A League of Their Own, which I'm surprised you haven't seen, Lauren. I don't know why I feel like you would have seen this. I saw it as a kid, but I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:04:54 That's a great movie. Yeah, I don't remember most of it. I feel like that'll hold up. That'll definitely hold up. I'm excited to watch that one. We'll see you then. Newcomers on three. One, two, three. Newcomers!
Starting point is 01:05:17 Newcomers is a HeadGum original hosted by us, Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus. Our executive producer is Anya Kenofskaya and our producer is Ali Khan. Our theme music, editing, sound mixing, and mastering is done by Ferris Manchi. Listen to new episodes wherever you get your podcasts every Tuesday. That was a Hiddem Original.

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