Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Star Wars Ep. IV - A New Hope (w/ John Gemberling)

Episode Date: January 28, 2020

Oh boy. Lauren and Nicole have just watched their first Star Wars, and they have questions. Like, what's the devil doing in the Cantina? Is Chewbacca a pet? What was the motivation behind the alien in the trash compactor?Comedian and Star Wars fan John Gemberling (Big Mouth, Broad City) joins us to answer cultural importance of the original Star Wars series, the lore, characters, and convince the girls to keep on watching.Want to watch Star Wars Ep. IV in realtime with Nicole and Lauren? Check out our bonus watch-a-long episode where you can sync up the film and hear their reactions.Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and write in the review what Star Wars media you'd like us to cover.Sources for this episode:Star Wars WookieepediaOriginal Reviews from 1977See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Here they come. May the Force be with you in Star Wars. Welcome to Newcomers! I'm Lauren Lapkin. I'm Nicole Byer. We decided to watch something we've never seen before. Star Wars movies. Yes. We've never seen any of them.

None of them. I've never had the movies. Yes. We've never seen any of them. None of them. I've never had the desire. No. I've never been interested, not one day in my life, in Star Wars. I think I've worked really hard to not learn about Star Wars. And I've always kind of prided myself on, like, how little information I had. Mm-hmm. I've put, like, I have some, like, key names in my head.

Yes. And, like and some phrases I could use in an improv scene or something poorly. Or be able to have a conversation and not be like, this girl is stupid. Right. I've picked up on pop culture. Yes. But we, I don't

know, I feel like we're in this community of improvisers where people act like it is the best series of films and if you don't know about it you are really missing out and so there's a part of me that kind of wondered if that was true

and that like maybe I would like this yes and I gotta say after viewing that movie well no no the answer is no

we missed out on nothing wow so we just watched episode four hope is here no what's it called? A New Hope. It came out May 25th, 1977

and we just found out that it was originally released as Star Wars and got the name update in 1981. Which is crazy. I mean, I guess at least it wasn't called Episode 4 when they first put it out because people would be like, what is that? Episode 4 of what? I mean, this movie has been tinkered with so much by the name and then they remastered some of it

i know so a lot of those characters that we saw are like the little like guys were like cgi yes cool or something and then they they cgi java the hut he looked wild i know i kind of wanted to see what he looked like before like Like gross. Yeah. He didn't look gross enough to be called Jabba. He looked like a CGI, like, blob. Yeah. He looked like from A Bug's Life. Yeah. It really wasn't, like, intimidating in a way that I thought it was supposed to be.

We were wondering. We got very sleepy while we were watching this. Oh, my God. About 30 minutes in, I was like, when does this end? I need a nap. Yeah, it was getting really exhausting. And also, if you are someone who has never seen the movies, or you have and you want to hear our thoughts in real time,

we did a watch-along episode where we recorded it as we watched it for the first time. Oh, my God. And we talked so much because there's no dialogue. No one is talking over this movie. It's just action. It's just laser beams. And then a lot of crossfades into another scene and fade ups and fade downs. Yep.

It was a lot of everyone's. It was like George Lucas just got iMovie and he was like, dissolve. He was like, look at this cool dissolve feature I learned about. I mean, George, why did you do this to us? George, everyone loves you. So then I thought, did people like love it when it came out? So here are some reviews from 1977. The New York Times said, the most elaborate, most expensive, most beautiful movie serial ever made.

Here is New York mag. Oh, dull new world. We were treated to a galactic civil war, assorted heroes and villains. A princely maiden in distress, a splendid old man surviving from an extinct order of knights who possessed a mysterious power called the Force. So people at the time didn't necessarily like it. I agree. Hollywood Reporter said, undoubtedly emerge as one of the true classics in the genre of science fiction and fantasy films and that it will be thrilling audiences of all ages

for a long time to come. Roger Ebert gave it a perfect four-star review. Luke's journey likened to that of the mythological hero and closed his review by saying, the magic of Star Wars is only dramatized by the special effects. The movie's heart is in its endearingly human and non-human people.

I usually really agree with Roger Ebert, so I feel kind of sad. Not on this. And then Siskel said, Plato would have liked Star Wars. Star Wars expresses ideals like goodness and virtue so that we are able

to imagine them once again. That's what Plato said was the purpose of good art. So from the point of view of a platonic critic, Star Wars is a good picture. Is it? Siskel's lame.

The bad guy literally spun out into the galaxy. I don't want, I just, okay, let's introduce our guests because we could go on and on about what we don't understand, but maybe we can get some light shed on this situation.

We have John Gemberling here today. Yes, yes, yes. Hi. Very wonderful. Very funny. Thank you for having me. Oh my God. Do you love this movie?

Do you like this movie? This is a thing that you watched willingly? Well, listen, I have empathy for you guys okay i have understanding thank you i know that it is a a first of all it's obnoxious to have something built up that much over the course of your whole life so that So that's a hard place to come from. Also, it's a hard, you know, it is dated looking, the first one. And the pacing is maybe a little dated. Oh my God, it's so slow.

Kimberly, can I ask? Okay, so how many times did you have to see the film to understand the film? Well, so I'm like the opposite of you guys. I was born in 81. So I never saw any of these movies in the theater. But I don't have a memory of the first time I saw these movies. They just are a part of your life. Yeah. Like I came into consciousness like having seen these movies.

Wow. So like all the revelations, you know, everything in them. Like, I never discovered them for the first time in my conscious memory. That's so interesting. I think that must be true for a lot of people your age and our age that, like, the second they were able to watch movies, someone puts that on for them. And my parents would talk about it.

Not that they're, like, huge Star Wars fans, but, like, they would, you know, quote things from it. Really? So I remember watching Return of the Jedi at one point when I was like maybe nine or ten and being like, oh, yeah, like I'm putting it together. Like I know all this, but now I'm sort of consciously watching it in a way that I didn't before

but yeah I mean this first of all you gotta understand that prior to Star Wars sci-fi was like pulpy

it was like you know Flash Gordon-y like yeah like cheesy yeah like this was the first movie that really commercialized like. Yeah, like cheesy. Yeah, like this was the first movie that really commercialized, like I think put like a symphonic score underneath it

and commercialized the sort of epicness of it. So it was, you know, it did do something that wasn't being done before. You know, George Lucas is big into like Joseph Campbell and sort of power of myth and all that stuff. Tell us more about that. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Also symphonic.

What a great SAT word. I'm going to put it right in my pocket and forget about it later. Joseph Campbell was a comparative mythologist. He's dead now, but he wrote a lot about you know myth throughout history and and the sort of hero's journey that is uh universal in all myth in all cultures throughout history so and he i think liked star wars a lot when it came out because of that um do you think nicole is falling asleep was I truly yawned and then was like opening my eyes wider

no no I just okay can I ask a can I ask a question we like can't believe what we've gotten ourselves into like

are you gonna watch all these movies yes and there's eight more the second it was playing I think both of us were going wait like what okay so

uh 3p cp uh oh 3p cp oh 3PCP Oh, look at your diagram 3PCP 3P

Yeah, do you want to tell the audience They have a We have a printout here of all the characters We have Prince's Lens and Picture They have a printout of a picture of Jabba the Hutt And underneath it, it says Jabba the Hutt Because we don't know Okay

Oh, I didn't't know. Okay. Oh, I didn't even know this. Okay, so this sick man. Oh, those guys are Jawas. I thought they were droids. Oh, Jawas. What's a droid? Yeah, we thought they were droids. We can figure it out.

What's that? A Jawa. They're like an alien race. There's a lot of race analogs in Star Wars, so those would be your like Arab traitor aliens. And they did call them sand people.

And I was like, seems like a slur. Okay, so I got confused. Tusken Raiders is the proper term. I thought that the sand people

killed the Jawas, but the Jawas are the sand people. Yes. No. Oh, no. Sand people are different. The sand people

are human height. They were the ones that attacked Luke. The Jawas are the sand people. Yes. No. Oh no, sand people are different. The sand people are human height. They were the ones that attacked Luke. The Jawas. And they did kill the, sorry? So they did kill the Jawas. They did kill those Jawas. And then C-3PO just starts burning them in a pyre instantly. Which is pretty wild.

He's stacking all the Jawas up and lights them on fire. It was kind of crazy. And then the way Luke's aunt and uncle were burned and you could still see like the flesh on the bones. That's possibly the most graphic moment,

one of the most graphic moments in Star Wars. There's never again a moment where you see a charred skeleton. Now is that why people like kind of

universally like it too that like there's nothing so violent? Like all the deaths are kind of like, no. Yeah, and then like you don't see blood and then the lasers kind of just hit you and you fall down and die. I mean, it was always, I think, meant to have commercial appeal in the sense of like they wanted to sell toys even from the beginning. They wanted it to appeal to everybody. So it is sort of all things.

Do you think that Carrie Fisher and all those guys knew that they were getting into something cool, or was it kind of an accident? I don't think they, I mean, anything they've ever said about it, I think they were doing a lot of cocaine, and they were fucking around, and George Lucas was annoying because he cared so much. That's funny. That is very funny.

They were just doing their job. Also, didn't realize that the sick man had a name. That's Grand Moff Tarkin. Yeah, he was very- The sick man? He looked so ill. We were worried about his health. It looked like he was dying throughout the movie.

He looked very ill. Every scene he was in, he looked closer to death. Can we walk through the plot? Well, that's Peter Cushing. He's the admiral of the... So let me say one thing first. Okay. You mentioned Jabba the Hutt.

Yeah. So you guys watched the shitty version of this movie. We watched the remastered version. Well, not only is it remastered, but they added all the CGI stuff. They added... Yes, yeah.

That scene with Jabba the Hutt is an added scene. So he was never even in the movie? He was never even in the... Jabba the Hutt is an added scene. So he was never even in the movie? He was never even in the... Jabba the Hutt is referenced, but he does not appear in... How do they have that, though, with Harrison Ford? Wait, yeah, how do they do that? Like, walking and talking with him. I'll tell you in a moment.

He doesn't... Jabba the Hutt does not appear until Return of the Jedi, the third movie. Oh. So what's the second one called? Empire Strikes Back. Empire Strikes Back. That's the one to watch next.

Oh, okay. And he is in that a like puppeted thing that actually does look cool. And he seems bigger. So that was a scene, before they knew, they didn't, they cast somebody to be,

Jabba the Hutt I think originally was just like a big fat guy who looks sort of like a barbarian. So they shot that scene with Harrison Ford and fat barbarian Jabba the Hutt. Just walking. Just human, yeah, talking and walking. And then it was cut from the movie. So they added it back in. They basically slapped a CGI Jabba the Hutt over that actor.

It did look like that. Because Harrison Ford is like touching Jabba, but not really touching him. And he walks behind him and steps on his tail and sort of like artificially raises up and down. Why did they do that? I wonder. They did it because they,

George Lucas doesn't understand his own creation. He doesn't understand that was not given the budget in his mind or the time to make Lucas doesn't understand his own creation. He doesn't understand that like was not given the budget in his mind or the time to make the movie he wanted to make and he was bitter about it for his whole fucking career

even though everyone loved it. And his movies benefited from the studio system giving him notes and not giving him infinite amounts of money. So then when he had the money and opportunity, he then went back and soothed his own childish ego by adding all this extra shit in that wasn't necessary.

That nobody wanted. That scene with Jabba the Hutt adds nothing to the movie. It doesn't add any information. And we wondered why we didn't see Jabba again and why he looked like that. It was so weird. He's supposed to be something. The movie in its original form is so good at referencing things and characters and making you wonder about them and wish you could see them.

Like, oh, the Clone Wars. I spent so much of my childhood going, what were the Clone Wars? What happened in the Clone Wars? The Clone Wars were just one person, but like a million of that one person. Like in Willy Wonka. Because clones. In the Chocolate Factory when they have like the little guy that they just CGI a hundred times in the new version.

Yeah, that's what I want. Wait till you watch the prequels. The Clone Wars are dog shit. Wow. Dang. There's no reason to ever see the Clone Wars. The Clone Wars is something to wonder about and be like, I wish I could see that part

of the lore. Okay, that's an interesting... Go ahead. Did George Lucas do the first three? Did he do all of them? I don't think he directed any of the original three movies, but he wrote them and produced them. I may be wrong about this.

I think he directed... The one we just watched was written and directed by George Lucas. Did he direct? I'm pretty sure. I thought so. Oh the one we just watched was written and directed by George Lucas. Did he direct? I'm pretty sure. I thought so. Oh yeah, director George Lucas. Okay. Paper tells me.

And then I think he directed the three prequel movies and then it was bought away from him by Disney. So these newest, newest movies. Have nothing really to do with him. Right. Interesting. Okay. really to do with him right interesting okay so we start off this movie with three three c3po i don't know why dude that's hysterical i don't know why i can't remember it c3po and r2d2 they

we spend so much time with them yes for what And it actually is confusing because it doesn't seem to pay off. Like, we spend time with them when they get lost in the desert. And then they split up, but then they end up together. Is the reason why we follow them because then they end up working with Luke Skywalker what they wouldn't have otherwise if they weren't lost in that desert? Does none of this make any sense to you because we don't know what we're talking about? Well, I think, I mean, I don't know how much you want me to tell you about the prequels or what. Everything.

I don't know if we want information that we wouldn't have from watching this. But like, so does that, is that impossible to do? Because like, you know all this stuff. Well, I think at the barest form, they are the sort of, in the sort of archetypes of myth and story, they're the sort of wandering fools who just sort of are a witness to these epic events and play a part in them, but are the sort of, almost the audience in the way that they sort of bumble around and are sort of kicked from one event to the next. Yeah. Why is C-3PO so mean to R2-D2? Well, C-3PO is an anxious, he's anxious and doesn't want to get into trouble,

and R2-D2 is more adventurous and feels a sense of duty and is a risk taker. You think of R2-D2 as being sentient, like it has feelings. I don't like how you said feelings. It felt like we decided that R2-D2 was basically a phone. Yes. That he could look up information and tell them stuff.

And then project Princess Leia. Yeah, but he wasn't feeling. Oh, but he's devious. He gets Luke to take his restraining bolt off and then he escapes. Oh, we missed that. He escapes to go do his mission. Wait, when did he escape?

Oh my God, what? Do you mean when he's sticking his head out of the spaceship? What? No, no, in the beginning of the movie when he has the recording, he plays a little bit of it to tantalize Luke so that Luke says, hey, what's that video?

Show me more. And then he says, translated through C-3PO, he can't play it unless you take his restraining bolt off. The restraining bolt keeps them from having free will, essentially. I see. Oh. So he is sentient after that gets pulled out. Yeah, he's got feelings and plans.

Well, there's a lot of questions about how the ethics of the universe were. These droids are clearly feeling sentient beings that are essentially enslaved by their makers. Wait, wait. So, I mean, we just don't know. So C-3PO and R2-D2 are droids. Yes. Okay, because I was confused about what a droid was the entire time.

They call them robots. He says robot at a certain point. I mean, yeah. Right. And then they say that very famous line of these are not the droids we're looking for or something. Isn't that like a huge line? I feel like people say that all the time. Yeah, yeah. These are the droids you're looking for. Well, that's the first time. I was like, I don't know. I've never heard that. Yeah, I don't know why I know that.

Well, that's the first time you're looking for? I said that and I was like, I don't know, I've never heard that. Yeah, I don't know why I know that. Well, that's the first time you see what the power of the Force can accomplish. It's Obi-Wan is mind controlling those stormtroopers. We didn't get that. When he made them turn, I did. We knew that part, but I'm saying when he said these are not the droids

we're looking for, Obi-Wan was protecting them and saying they actually are the droids they're looking for, Obi-Wan was protecting them and saying they actually are the droids they're looking for. But they were under a mind control to say that they were confused. The Stormtrooper's repeating. He's putting those thoughts in the Stormtrooper's mind. So how come Obi-Wan Kenobi can't just make the Death Star blow up himself and kill Darth Vader with his force?

Well, he says that that mind control trick works on essentially weak minded people. It's not something that it's not. He's not all powerful. Oh, OK. OK. So at the beginning, we also know that. Wait, what? There was another R2-D2 and then they just threw him away.

Yeah, there was another C-3PO. OK, so there was like a silver version. A gold or silver one, yeah. And then there was also like another version of R2-D2. Are there just a ton of those, but we only follow these two? Yeah, these are, you know, they're... And do they come in pairs? No.

Okay. The R2-D2 and C-3PO are, you know, by chance of fate, a sort of adventuring duo that always are sort of counterparts. But no, they're manufactured products, essentially. So there's thousands of these things? Yeah. Oh. You know, there's like R2-D4, I think is the red one. You know, they're like model lines and stuff.

So they are like phones. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, there's the Astro-Mech. There's models. I think is the red one. They're like model lines. So they are like phones. Yeah. Astromech is the big company that makes all the droids. Wait, that's real? Oh, is it? Is that why androids are called... Is that why droids?

A droid is short for android. But a non-iPhone is an android. But that's a word that existed before Star Wars. Star Wars didn't come up with the word Android. All right, call me stupid. No, no, no. I didn't know that for sure. I was letting it play out.

So, okay, at the beginning, we have Princess Leia. Do we even know that yet? We know from the scrolling type at the beginning that Princess Leia has been captured. There's a lot of information given there. It's hard to follow if you don't know what's scrolling type at the beginning that Princess Leia has been captured. There's a lot of information given there. It's hard to follow if you don't know what's going on at all. I almost wondered why they said it. I guess maybe to give you more, to make it more epic. It seems like something epic is happening.

Well, it was definitely a decision to make. You said it wasn't named A New Hope until 1981. I don't know if it was when it was first released called Episode 4 or not. It was not. It was just called Star Wars. Okay. So at some point, the idea that this is not the first in the series, I mean, I would think The Crawl would have been there. So the whole, God, you're yawning. So he liked the idea of it being not the first of the series, but didn't want to call it A New Hope because people would be like,

what do you mean I never saw the first Hope? I don't know. Yeah, I don't actually know about that, but I know that the idea that this story exists in a sort of serial, because him and Spielberg and these guys, these like baby boomer guys. Oh, Spielberg was involved? Yeah, at a certain point he was a producer. Yeah.

That I didn't know. You know, these guys all loved like radio dramas and like sci-fi serial stuff, so I think their intention, Lucas' intention was that this fits as part of a serial epic in this world. So the idea that it gives you all this information in the crawl at the beginning is sort of like I think it's supposed to give you the idea that you're coming into the middle of this story and this universe. I think that's pretty fun, actually.

It is. Yeah. Do you want me to read this in-depth plot synopsis i think it might help us remember okay it's just a paragraph because honestly we were so confused okay the film is set about 19 years after the formation of the galactic empire construction has finished on the death star a weapon capable of destroying a planet after princess leia organa a leader of the rebel alliance receives the weapons plans and the hope of finding a weakness she is captured and taken to the Death Star. That was unclear.

Yes. Because we didn't know how she got to the Death Star. Meanwhile, a young farmer named Luke Skywalker He's a farmer? They're moisture farmers.

New information. Wait, what? He grows legs as a moisture farmer? Because it's the desert. Tattooing is a planet in a binary system so it has two suns.

That's why it's so hot and deserty. Oh, I saw the two suns. I saw that. How do you know? He just knows. Who told you? I think they probably...

The movie tells you? Nobody ever mentioned moisture farming. They never say Luke. I don't think they say Luke Skywalker is a moisture farmer. But do you think

so much of it comes from like... So people, I think in general, grow up watching these movies and then they research more about it. Ah, yeah. Well, certainly, yeah think in general, grow up watching these movies and then they research more about it. Ah, yeah. Well, certainly, yeah. I mean, I think if you watch it again,

you'll probably, it doesn't actually sound like you guys were paying that good attention. We were focused. You have no idea. I didn't pick up my phone one time. I picked up my phone once and I really missed something,

so I was, wait, wait, I'm gonna go on. Meanwhile, a young farmer named Luke Skywalker meets Obi-Wan Kenobi, who has lived in seclusion for years on the desert planet of Tatooine. When Luke's home is burned and his aunt and uncle killed, Obi-Wan begins Luke's Jedi training as they, along with Han Solo, Chewbacca, C-3PO, and R2-D2, attempt to rescue the princess from the Empire. We got that. We got that when his aunt... So Ben Kenobi came over to him. Yes.

And we were like, Ben Kenobi, where's Obi-Wan? We were fully not getting it at all. And then we watched his aunt and uncle die, who we got to know for one minute. And then it was kind of devastating. And then they didn't put her in wardrobe. She was wearing clothes that just looked... She wears the same thing two days in a row, definitely.

And you weren't very 70s. And they were not committed to her character. They were like, she'll be dead in a minute. And then also, like, for moisture farming, their clothes are pretty drapey. You know, like, what happens if the moisture gets caught on the drapery? Yeah, and then you're wasting the moisture. You know? What?

That's expensive moisture you're farming. They're wearing, like, drapey kimonos. Well, they live in the desert. Are you not paying attention to the fashion? It's very hot. It's like desert wear. All right. We'll be back with more Star Wars Episode 4 discussion right after this short break.

Do you know what they're eating in that meal? Oh, yeah. What were they eating? He was drinking like gray milk. The blue milk is a topic of some discussion. Oh. It's just called the blue milk. And then in one of the newer movies.

In one of the newer movies. I like that it's called blue milk. It's just called the blue milk? In the last movie, the last, I can't even keep track anymore, but like the last major movie that Mark Hamill was in, there is a scene of him milking a creature for this blue milk. That is sick. I can't wait till we get there. As sort of an Easter egg.

Nine movies later. Well, it's like now it's just fan service. Now it's like, let's put in these. We know you're talking about the blue milk. Let's see where it comes from. Oh, boy. Can't wait to see that. Okay, so he meets Ben.

He knows Ben at this point, Kenobi. And Ben's like, he explains the Jedi. He explains the Force. Yes. Which we thought was a beautiful little moment. Yes. Kind of seeming, it seemed very important. And then he sees that his people are dead.

So he instantly is like, fine, I'm going to join you. Which is kind of insane. He had plans to go to school insane that he doesn't really react. He's not like, boo-hoo. There was no emotional reaction. He just is like, I'm a Jedi now. He's like, all right, here we go. The movie moves very fast.

I mean, it is an oddly. The story does move fast, but the pacing is very slow. It's like a lot of things happen like we spent 15 minutes just on r2d2 and i'll get his name without looking down three cp people cp c3po we spent so much time on them for no reason right but okay yeah why doesn't he care about his aunt and uncle like why does that happen so quick i think there was a lot i mean there's definitely like every couple years some new like deleted scene comes out it's like oh this is a scene with his old friend who leaves and goes to the academy and this i think they shot a lot and then they

edited it i think the movie really got made in editing, at least the first one. Fair. So, yes. I won't say, I said it moves quickly. It doesn't, it moves. It jumps a lot of speeds. It slows down and speeds up oddly, definitely. And then Kenobi, whatever, was like. Ben slash Obi.

Kenobi, whatever, was like... Ben slash Obi. He explained Luke's father was killed by Darth Vader. Now we kind of know Darth's line. Spoiler alert. You heard that? I actually was avoiding saying it just in case you didn't know. No, no, that's one of the major things that I know because it's in Toy Story.

Maybe it's Toy Story 2. There's a play on it. So then I was like, what does this mean? So you hadn't heard that until Toy Story 2. I've heard it my whole life. Like, Luke, I am your father or whatever. But it's like, I don't care. Yeah, it's like, okay, what is that? But, we were...

What we were kind of wondering about, and you can tell us if you want, but we thought there was going to be a romance in this movie. Correct. And there's not. There's a kiss on the cheek between Leia and Luke. And then a wink between Hans and Princess Leia. Did you say Hans? Hans Solo? You think his name is Hans Olo?

Okay. I did think it was that for many years. I call him Hans. I think I only learned that last year. You think he's like Danish? I thought it was Hans Solo. His name is Han?

Han. But see, some people's names are Han, and some people's names are Luke and Ben. Yeah, it's so wild. Like, why are the names so all over the place? Like, you could have a crazy name, or you could have Luke as your name. Get ready. It gets, when you get to the prequels, it's all bets are fucking off. I know there's an Anakin. Okay, we have to talk about Skywalker.

Right? Isn't there a character named Anakin? Yeah. We have to talk about Skywalker. Isn't there a character named Anakin? Yeah. We have to talk about the aliens in the bar. Oh, the aliens in the bar were so wild. They're so weird. It could be anything.

A lot of things that look like they had balls on their faces. And the devil is there. Yes, the literal devil is there. The Judeo-Christian devil. Was that literally what he was? I don't think so. No, he's a race. You know, this is a race. I mean, this.

Well, and also like some droids are just like clearly garbage cans. So everything's a droid. No. Oh, okay. No, like in the Jawa transport vehicle, one of the droids is like just has a lid. Yeah, we did talk about that. So what are those people, aliens? What are they called?

Well, each race has its own name. I'm not exactly sure what the devil race is. Why all of the aliens inside the bar were so upset that R2-D2 and the gold man were coming in, so they made them stay outside? That makes no sense.

Oh, okay. I don't know that droid discrimination ever comes up again in the movie. It makes absolutely no sense. There's no reason. It was called Deveronian. Oh, a Deveronian. The devil faced Deveronians first appeared in A New Hope,

in which one of them was seen in Chalmans Cantina. Chalmans? Chalmans? Chalmans? Is that the name of the bar?'s the bar a devaronian okay we have a lot of romean i love that all these aliens and droids have names oh they're all built out yeah wow and a lot of them have action figures when this when like a few years after star like, like, in the early 80s, there were, like, catalogs. There was a catalog you could get with just, I don't know about hundreds, but, like, dozens and dozens of little action figures that was, like, you know, a character that you saw in the background at one point. So you could just have the whole universe to play with.

That's fun. That's pretty cool. It was fun. So this, yeah, I mean, this, for for me this is one of those things i'm sure you guys have it i i think part of 90 day fiancé i love 90 day fiancé well i think part of human i think part of childhood and human existence is there is something that hooks into you as a kid yeah that is just whenever you see it throughout your whole life, you're just like

I'm home. You have that feeling. What movie is that for you, Lauren? There are so many. I mean I think Big is a movie like that for me that whenever I watch it I feel very calm. I've seen it like a hundred times. But also cartoons. So for you it's like pedophilia.

It's like a loud pedophilia. A woman getting to be like a hundred times. But also like cartoons. So for you it's like pedophilia. It's like a loud pedophilia. A woman getting to be with a young boy. But I, or like cartoons like Ren and Stimpy or things that like feel, they feel kind of like soothing to me or like Full House and Saved by the Bell. Like I feel like I kind of numb out watching something like that.

So is that what you feel about Star Wars? It's not just because I have that numbing with Full House too that like, oh, I can watch that. But also intellectually I'm like, this is awful. It's not just because I have that numbing with Full House, too, that like, oh, I can watch that. But also intellectually, I'm like, this is awful. It's so dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more like the look of it and the colors and there's a sort of weightiness to it, to

like the characters. And Harrison Ford is just like magical. We loved him. He's so cool. I think he was our favorite part. So cool. I magical we loved him he's so funny I think he was our favorite part so cool I really liked him

he's so hot in it he's like very cool so hot and he manages to be funny and like frightened yeah and like over it

but also cool yeah like him and Bruce Willis and a couple other like managed to be great action stars cause they

can play like frightened and exhausted while being really well. Yeah. When I liked Leia, I thought that she was like cool too, but I,

she was also kind of rude. Yeah, but I thought it was kind of an interesting character trait for the princess. And also, I get it, she's got trauma.

She does, she does. She was held captive, so I get it. But I think I came to like, we were talking about how we don't connect these actors with this movie because we know them from other things, like Harrison Ford or Carrie Fisher. We know from other stuff. And I feel like When Harry Met Sally is more like my Carrie Fisher connection, which is so different.

Yep. But, like, then seeing them in this context, it's really interesting because you're seeing, what people love about them weirdly like i could love them for all these different reasons and different movies or like things i know about their personalities but then seeing them in this movie it's like oh this is the thing that got them where they yeah it's really strange yeah yeah like i get it like i get why harrison ford became huge oh yeah he's so charismatic in this movie yeah especially when you consider there's like so little dialogue there's barely anything for him to work with in terms of getting across that you're a cool guy. He says like 10 lines.

It must have been an interesting filming process because it didn't feel like he was there that much. I wonder what the script looked like. I guess I could probably get it and read it, but it just seems like lots of action lines. There's a version. There's a first, not first draft, but original draft that came out that was somehow found and released 15 years ago or something that is just insane.

Luke's last name is Starkiller. Yes, Luke Starkiller. R2-D2 and C-3PO aren't in it. Their roles are, I think, two bumbling imperial guys who bumble around and are like, whoa, what's going on? It's so different. But the script did seem really crazy. From our perspective, it was going from thing to thing so quickly. And anything could seemingly happen in this universe. There could be aliens that look like all these different people,

species that look like all these different things just at a bar. So that was how we're introduced to all of them. Then like when they're being squished in that trash compactor and like the little like alien comes up and like grabs Luke Skywalker and he almost drowns. And then we never see that alien thing again. You wanted that to have an arc. Well, why was it down there?

Who was that? Where is it going? Where did it come from? What's its motivation? Why is it trying to kill them? Like, it feels like now you couldn't make that movie

and just be like, and then this thing is like, and then it's gone. And then have a payoff for it. It feels like you, yeah, it feels like you need to see it again

or like know what it was. Yeah. Well, so, this movie is, Star Wars is tricky because it's sci-fi, but really it's more fantasy. You know, like it has technological elements, but originally, and in the years since it came out, there's been a lot of like side novels and comic books and other movies and stuff that sort of seek to explain what everything is and fill in those gaps but really it was made from a sort of fantasy perspective where like there's creatures and crazy stuff and you can fly faster than light

speed to the other end of the galaxy all you want and get around and you know uh but it wasn't it wasn't really made with the sort of like science fiction ethos that is like everything has to be plausible right and understandable and make a certain have a certain internal logic to it um that's really important information though i think because i think that could make me angry watching this yes thinking that there's supposed to be a reason for everything. But just saying, hey, it's fantasy. He's just having fun. Shit's gonna happen.

Yeah. Poor Chewbacca, though, in that garbage compactor scene. He was fully having an anxiety attack or a panic attack. And I really felt for him. Yeah. That was really sad. So where do you classify Chewbacca in terms of pet, pilot? Yes, we were having trouble with that relationship.

What is he to Luke or to Han? Because it was like he was like piloting the plane, was very able. Then like Han's like, get out of here and like pats him on the head. Like it feels like there's this kind of pet dynamic as well. So their backstory is, I believe at a certain point, Han saved his life in one of their earlier adventures. And so in the Wookiee culture, if someone saves your life,

you owe them a life debt. So Chewbacca is essentially honor bound to accompany Han Solo and be his sort of protector and companion and stuff. So, and I think that's just their relationship. You know, it's sort of, they like love each other, but they get on each other's nerves too. And Han can be disparaging and, you know. That would bum me out to be like, my closest friend is bound to me because he has to be.

And the opposite too, where it's like, oh, that guy saved my life. Now I have to be by him all the time. Like I don't get to have my personal life, which obviously would have been amazing as Chewbacca wandering whatever planet. But I think they like each other too. Do we get to see other Wookiees? Is that what he is, a Wookiee?

Yeah. I don't know that you see other Wookiees until the prequels. Like a lady Wookiee? Oh, I want to see Chewbacca with a bow. Right? Just like a bow in her hair. She's like, oh! The prequels, any bullshit

you come up with that you want to, you go, oh, what about this? We'll see in the prequels. The subsequent movies will deliver it to you. So we're going to see Chewbacca fuck? Yeah, we were hoping for that. We need to see more people fuck. We thought in this movie there was going to be Yoda.

We thought there was going to be fucking between two characters that possibly were siblings. Yes, because Luke and Leia are siblings. Do you know it or not? We think we know that. What do you think you know? We think we know that they hook up and then find out that they're siblings. That's like what we think is true.

They are twin siblings. Oh shit, they're twins? How do they not know they're twins? Oh, if you get split up at birth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very easy explanation. I was like, what? How?

They're the children of Anakin Skywalker, who becomes Darth Vader. What? They were... Yes. Oh, wait. Wait, wait, wait. That's too much information.

Well, you know that Darth Vader is his father. We only know that. That's just because people say things. Yes. But I don't know how it came together. Right. Yes. I think we can't explore that further because we need to be surprised. We have to have something cool happen later.

And I'm already pretty confused just by that statement. And then Anakin is played by Hayden Christensen in the prequels? He's played by Jake Lloyd in the first prequel, an eight-year-old child. Then he's played by Hayden Christensen in the next two prequels. Okay, then at the end, I'm jumping around a little bit, but there was that,

they're like, this mission will take 30 minutes, and then it took literally 30 minutes. It was so wild. Wait, they say that it'll take 30 minutes? Oh, there's 30 minutes

until they have a line of sight to destroy Yavin. Yeah, and it takes a full 30 minutes? Oh, there's 30 minutes until they have a line of sight to destroy Yavin. Yeah, and it takes a full 30 minutes. It's so bonkers. We just watched lasers shooting. How come lasers can't kill them more precisely?

Why aren't the lasers precise? It seems like the lasers are arbitrary until they decide, oh, this person must die. It's true. There is a sort of running joke that stormtroopers can't hit anything.

Oh, okay. That's funny. Also, what's the point of their armor? Because as soon as you get hit with a laser, they die. That's good. Yeah, I didn't even think of that. That's wild. Yeah, what's the point?

You're just wearing all this heavy armor just to die? I feel like one thing that I like about this culture is that even the biggest fans want to poke holes in it and make fun of it. It feels like you're saying people just would comment on how they can't hit anything. Right. Well, there's certainly – definitely the first movie, there are campy elements to it. There are a lot of stilted performances. A lot of the side actors that come up and are like, Lord Vader, this is happening over here. I love it.

And they're almost looking at the camera. It definitely has a sort of schlocky. Okay, here's a question. So when Ben slash Obi decides to let Darth kill him, he looks over and then is like, kill me. And then he disappears and he looks at Luke and just like decides to be killed or what become just like

a voice cause he talks to him later and Luke would be like I heard that and like tap his head he literally tapped his helmet to be like I'm registering this voice but does he die or does he become like a part He literally tapped his helmet to be like, I'm registering this voice. But does he die or does he become like a part of the force? Yeah, he becomes one with the force.

Oh. That seems big for him. Yeah. He loves the force. So like that must be great that he graduated to be the force. I think it is great. Also, their fight sequence wasn't intense. No.

It was like do, do. No. It was just like, do, do. No. And they even would think sometimes. Like, do. So you sort of have to look at these movies as like an evolution almost. Okay. Like the first movie is sort of like caveman, you know, and then they sort of evolve to the point where in the prequelsels Yoda is like leaping and spinning around and doing all these like

I can't wait for that I can't wait for the little Yodi it gets like too choreographed and intense and like I love the design you know this movie the design is so cool

well it's very well done considering the time yeah because that's the 70s, right? Yeah, looking at the sets, I was pretty impressed by that. I can't think of other 70s movies that are fantastical in this way that I would have seen. Well, 2001, I think, came out before this. Oh, okay.

So it draws certainly from the sort of stark white Kubrick aesthetic. Yeah, like it's hard. It's a hard world to process because on the one hand, the design of the Stormtroopers is so beautiful and the sort of like sheer white reflective angular quality of it is beautiful to look at.

But like I said, it's useless. Right, yeah. I spent hours in Barnes & Noble as a kid like paging through because they used to have, they would come out with like books of the concept art. So much work went into these movies like concept art, model designs for aliens that never even made it into the movie, landscape paintings of different planets and stuff,

and it's beautiful. It's amazing. Yeah, we were thinking about that in that bar scene in the cantina with all the aliens, that how do you even tell someone what to make for this scene? They could look like anything and be anything, and they only need to be one of each one, and they can look completely different from each other,

and we don't have to explain it. Yeah, so much work went into those aliens for that one scene. Henson-esque. Yeah, well, Henson was... Oh, did he do it all? Well, Yoda is... We're learning so much.

Henson did a lot of the puppeting. Wait, Yoda was a puppet? Yeah. Well, Yoda we haven't seen yet. We don't know how little he is. I didn't know... Frank Oz does the voice R2-D2

we learned a person was inside there was a guy in there and it's like well why is just a robot moving around I really felt like that must have been

one of the hardest jobs in the movie is squishing into that little costume that R2-D2 costume and just like riding around in the dark

just ride around and it was hot too I mean they shot a lot of that in Africa oh wow I didn't know was hot too. I mean, they shot a lot of that in Africa. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. That's crazy. That is wild.

I think a lot of that desert stuff. Like the desert stuff. Yeah. I was very surprised by how dusty the terrain was. Yeah, it was very dusty. I thought it was going to be more like a spaceship throughout the whole thing. And then it made sense of Disneyland where I have been, where they have the Star Wars thing where it's very dusty and I was almost like Egyptian or something

and I was confused by that. Now I know. It's in Africa. But that's an interesting choice. Do you know anything about why that is or was it just to kind of give them different, like I guess if Luke Skywalker is a desert farmer or whatever. Moisture farmer.

Moisture farmer, excuse me. I think another incongruity and it is like every planet sort of has just one ecosystem yeah you know they there's a lot of like there's like the desert planet the ice planet and there was a tree planet yeah so that that's that's another thing that's like it's cool and gettable and simple and it all looks great. But also what planet would have just – I mean obviously there's planets that – there's inhospitable planets that – Speaking of planets, so Princess Leia had a whole planet blown up. Yeah.

And we don't really talk about it again. And was that Earth? No, that was Alderaan. Oh, but it looked like Earth. I don't think Earth, I think there's a different galaxy altogether. So that was just to like throw them off the scent. She was like, which one? I mean, did she want them to blow that up or was that an accident?

No, that's where her, that's her home planet. So her father and mother, her family was just killed. She had a very small reaction to that. She really did. A lot of the deaths are not met with the emotional reactions I need. Because I always thought that that was like a trick. Like I thought she pretended to make that one as important so that he would blow that one up. So wait, so her mother and her father died, but then isn't her dad Darth Vader?

So her adoptive family. She doesn't know that Darth is her dad? Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. So they want her to tell them the location of the rebel base, which is actually on Yavin 4, as you know now that you've seen the movie. Yes, definitely could have told you that, yeah.

Yavin 4. But she tells them in that moment that it's on Dantooine, which actually is the location of an old rebel base that has been abandoned at this point. Ah. And I went to Dantooine in the video game Knights of the Old Republic. Wait, what? What does that mean? What?

Yeah, what did any of that sentence mean? There was a video game for Xbox 360, I think, Knights of the Old Republic, which is sort of a role-playing Star Wars action game that takes place hundreds or thousands of years earlier. And that's one of the places you go. It's Dantooine.

There's a Jedi temple there. Oh, that's nice. Okay. Are the guys in the orange, are they Jedis? Yeah, what are those guys? Yeah, who are them? Are they on our paper?

They're rebel pilots. You're talking about the pilots? The ones with the yellow glasses. So there's no Jedis. Obi-Wan Kenobi is a Jedi. After the Clone Wars, Darth Vader and the Emperor wiped out all the Jedis. So Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda are basically the last couple of Jedis. Darth Vader.

And a Jedi is just like a master fighter who can do the force. So there's the light side of the force and there's the dark side of the force. Yes. Right? Uh-huh. The Jedi are a religious order

devoted to the force who operate on the light side of the force. They're like monks. Sort of, yeah. Or like like monks. Sort of, yeah. Or like warrior monks. Okay. Like Buddhist warrior monks almost. And the Sith is an order devoted to the dark side of the force.

So the Emperor and Darth Vader are Sith Lords. I've heard of that. Okay. From later stuff, right? Yeah, I've heard it plays a role. Well, there's the revenge of the Sith. Nope. Yeah, that's what it, right? Yeah, I've heard of... Sith plays a role... Well, there's the Revenge of the Sith. Nope.

Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, right? Revenge of the Sith? Well, as I just mentioned, the Emperor and Darth Vader are both Sith Lords, so they play a role. They don't say Sith

in this movie. No. I don't think so, no. Like, that's one of the things that is kind of hard about it because you know all these things, these catchphrases,

but they don't really come into play until later. Like, I didn't know. I can imagine it's very confusing for you guys to come in at this angle to this movie having a sort of jumble of cultural things in your head. Yeah, we have like 30 plus years of random things being said. You're like, mm, yes, it'll be one. Got it. Like 30 plus years of. I mean, you guys can't actually. Random things being said. Yes.

It'll be one. Got it. You guys can't actually watch these movies with virgin eyes. It's going to be like sifting through expectations and weird stuff and trying to like push it all out of the way just to accept the sequence of events that they're showing you as they're showing it to you. Now, in my mind, The Empire Strikes Back is the movie. Is that how people would say it? Because to me, that's, I think, maybe the one that I saw when I was a kid. I've seen one that has Ewoks in it. That has what in it?

Return of the Jedi. Oh, okay, it's Return of the Jedi. The Ewoks, the little, they look like little bears. They're very cute. But that's the only one I've seen then. But I feel like from going to Disneyland and just osmosis, that the Empire Strikes Back, Yoda coming into play is one everyone cares about.

Is that? Empire Strikes Back is the sort of darkest, most angsty one of the original trilogy. It's the sort of weightiest one. I also like Return of the Jedi a lot, even though it gets criticized for being almost too childish, like the Ewoks and stuff. People say like, oh, it's like babyish.

They're pandering to children. I liked it. That was my favorite. It never actually bothered me. Which one is your favorite? Yeah, which one is your favorite? Out of all nine films. Empire Strikes Back, I i guess is probably my favorite although i return of the jedi also i love and it's it's sort of like

feelings like i said i don't know it's not it's not a critical evaluation it's more just like there's parts of both movies that like give me that feeling and a new hope, too, that like it's just like, oh, I'm like here. Yeah. That's nice. That's cute. Yeah. It is really nice to hear this version compared to our like, oh, my God, this is so boring. Yes.

Because obviously it means something to a lot of people. Millions of people. Obviously, it means something to a lot of millions of people. And you're right, though, like coming in and trying to look at it from fresh eyes is basically impossible because we have so many preconceived notions. Yes. And like just thoughts. And so many questions because you're like, well, I heard about this. When does this happen? Right.

Because we were waiting for Yoda the whole time. And then we were like, OK, about an hour and a half. And I don't think he's coming. Nobody's going to talk to Yoda? And A New Hope does suffer from pilot syndrome a little bit where there's so much that they have to bring you up to speed on. Trying to cleanly introduce a bunch of information. I mean, you don't meet Luke Skywalker until like 20 minutes in maybe. Well, that's because we spend a lot of time on our little telephone friends.

I maintain the movie should start with the long playing message of Princess Leia and then they go find Han Solo and then they go find her. Yeah, it seems like

it should start with any of that backstory. You're looking at me funny. You don't think I'm wrong. When Luke's aunt and uncle are killed and Obi-Wan talks to him, I think is where that should begin. I think, well, you have... Because you're not telling the story of a person. You're telling the story...

With something like this, you're telling the story of a world, of a whole setting. That is a really interesting point because I feel like in my mind, Luke Skywalker is the main guy. But like, and it's about him. But there is no main guy. He becomes the main protagonist. Yeah, but you're right that like that movie is more about just everything, not really just about him. It's not his story. Well, also when you're introducing an entire alien world to an

audience, you have to sort of, I think it is good to bring them up to speed. Nowadays, sci-fi movies come out and even the Marvel movies and stuff. And there's a lot of, I think they're made with the, with a sort of shorthand of like, they get it, they get it. We don't need to introduce a whole world to them because they get alien world or superhero world or whatever. So let's just do the characters and whatever. But actually, I think making people fall in love with the world is crucial, is a reason for Star Wars success. And I can't totally pinpoint Star Wars success because there are a lot of things that are clunky about it and you know people didn't love it right off the bat I mean a lot of people did but it wasn't like a foregone conclusion fun characters, fun world, good actors, and cultural readiness for it.

And it sort of hit a pocket of sort of escapism that people liked. But yeah, I don't think there's one thing that makes sense to me of why it's the phenomenon that it is. I will say, it is really nice to hear you talk about it. And it makes me a little bit more excited to watch the next one. Oh, good. I was like, okay.

We were kind of nervous right after this ended. We were like, oh, no, we have to watch so many more hours of this. And we got scared. And this actually makes me feel a little hopeful and also a little more open-minded about how my friends view it and like, okay, this is a nice memory. The next two are fun. The next two are good. Everything after that, you're going to be like, well, maybe it'll, the pacing of it may be more friendly.

Yeah, well, that's what we were thinking. We were thinking as it gets to the much later movies that they might just move really quickly in a way that is easier for us. Easier to consume. The prequels are almost impenetrable. Like if you're wondering what's going on now, like I watched the prequels being fully invested in this universe, and I don't know that I could still sit down and explain to you what is going on globally. Oh, wow. Oh, no.

So that'll be fun. Can't wait to get into those ones. But you mentioned earlier the edits. The slow fades, the cross fades. Yeah, the dissolves. I believe they're called wipes. Oh, yeah. And it's funny that you look at that because it is cheesy.

But I see something about the sort of misty, it's not misty, but it's like unfocused, fuzzy line as it wipes across the screen. Even that I'm like, oh, that's, it's a design choice that is cheesy, but it works. Like it, that gives me that feeling with the tinkling sort of incidental score music and the wipe.

Like even that gets me. That makes sense. I mean, it kind of reminds me of like 70s TV a little bit. Like, just that comforting sort of thing. Yeah. Sorry, I cut you off there.

Well, in the video games that they come out with now, they've maintained, like, between loading screens, they still build those wipes into it. Oh, that's cute. That is cute.

It is nice to, like, respect and revere the things that might have been cheesy about it, too, and they're like, we still like that. I like that. I mean. I do too.

Wow. I mean, I don't want, you guys are under no obligation to like love these movies. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. You should experience them however is right for you. And you know. Darth Vader currently, because we just finished this movie

so he's currently just floating around in space yeah what happened at the end of that he was in that battle and then it seemed like he didn't seem to

win the battle because they got knighted at the end or whatever and then he was like floating around in the thing yeah so Darth Vader

is just floating in space currently I think he's okay yeah he's gonna come back he gets away so they made the movie I think he's okay, yeah. Well, he's going to come back. He gets away. So they made the movie. I think they hedged their bets in sort of like,

we want to make more than one, but maybe we're only making one, so it's got to have a satisfying ending, but we have to leave threads to play through more movies. So, yeah, he's okay. He's hurt in that he was bested in this battle and he wasn't able to achieve his goals but he's still just like how is he gonna get out of that little spaceship well he'll fly it somewhere that's another i'm really i'm like concerned another another difficult thing like something like lord of the the Rings is truly like a journey.

It's a physical journey where they have to cross many miles to get where they're going. To get a ring. And it's arduous. Well, no, they have the ring. Don't even open that. I can't watch it. Because I haven't really seen that either and I'm not. I've never seen it.

No, no, no. But it's a physical journey. So there's like a journey takes a toll on you. They have the ring. You know? I thought they were I've never seen it. No, no, no. But it's a physical journey so there's like a journey takes a toll on you. They have the Rick. I thought they were going to go get it. Star Wars is similarly a journey

but you can you just go anywhere. You just go like I'm in a spaceship and then I'm there. So that's a weird element that is lacking from Star Wars

where you don't you're on a journey but it's not a physical journey in the sense of where you don't have, you're on a journey, but it's not a physical journey in the sense of like, you don't, you can just be at your destinations one after the other. So that,

that is a strange element. So I got to start this next movie by being like, Darth is where he is and that's okay. Yeah. A little bit of time has passed and,

and yeah. So Gambling, do you have any like last thoughts about how we should go about watching the rest of these movies? Well, I don't know. If you're interested in them, that would be nice for you. We honestly hope that we become more interested. for you. We honestly hope that we become more interested. I think something

I was possibly considering is like, maybe we watch, when we watch the next movie, we then like Google a little more about it so we can learn something. So yes,

I think that would probably be very hard. After or before? After. After, yeah. Or should we do it before? Well, no, I was going to say,

I think you should try to recognize that everything that you have in your mind about these movies is, you know, going to set an expectation that is just either going to be confusing or disappointing or whatever. Yeah. I would really try to watch them as someone would have watched them. as someone would have watched them. I mean, you guys have a rare cultural gift of being able to see something for the first time.

All right. Try to pretend it's 1981 and Empire Strikes Back just came out. I put a scrunchie in my eye. Slip on my Reeboks. All you know is that it was a little later in the 80s. But all you saw, you know, all anybody saw is the first movie. And now you're seeing the second movie. Yeah.

Well, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having me. I'm honored. Do you have anything you want to promote? Yeah. Oh, no. What about your Twitter and Instagram? Yeah.

Tell the people. My Twitter is at Gember Licking. Good for you not being on Instagram. I just have no desire to post pictures of anything. I don't. It's not. How does it feel? I feel free.

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I'm not on Facebook. I hated everything I saw on there. It bummed me out. Yeah. Okay, well, please review this podcast and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, especially review it if you enjoy it. Yes. Yeah, if you don't like it, you know.

Give us a second. Because here's the thing. We are new to this. Yes. And if you're like a super fan, because this is my like it, you know. Give us a second. Because here's the thing. We are new to this. Yes. And if you're like a super fan, because this is my fear with doing this podcast, is that there are going to be super Star Wars fans who hate how we're talking about this. And I really want you to go on this journey with us because we're going to learn. We're going to have guests on who know about this.

Yes. And they're going to help us. We're going to learn. And we're open. We're open. Yes, we're very open. And I they're going to help us. We're going to learn. And we're open. We're open. We're very open. And I will say this. I liked a lot of the action sequences.

I felt like the things in between, I was like, I want to kill myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like maybe now that I know more about the world, I'll go into it really enjoying the second one. Yeah. I'm actually kind of excited to watch the second one now. I'm not dreading it. Me either. I was dreading watching the first one.

Yes. And it was boring. But I feel excited about watching the second one. Okay, good, good. it. Me either. I was dreading watching the first one. Yes. And it was boring. You bet. But I feel excited about watching the second one. Okay, good, good. We're on the same page. Okay, guys.

You gotta listen to the next episode because we're gonna be happier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm excited for you guys. Please. Oh my god. Follow both of us.

I met Lauren Lapkus on Twitter and Instagram. I met Nicole Byer on Twitter and Instagram. Yeah, so we love you guys so much. Yes. Yes, we love you. so much yes yes we love you

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