Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Temptation: Confessions of a Marriage Counselor (w/ Naomi Ekperigin)

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

Actress, comedian, and writer Naomi Ekperigin (Mythic Quest) joins Lauren and Nicole to discuss Tyler Perry’s Temptation: Confessions of a Marriage Counselor (2013).Follow Naomi on Instagram and Twitter, and check out Mythic Quest on Apple TV and her podcasts Couples Therapy and I Love A Lifetime Movie.Next Week’s Watchlist: Tyler Perry's Madea's Farewell Play (2020)Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what Tyler Perry hit they should check out next.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. We have a billion dollars walking in and out of these offices looking for love. How do this? We have a standard to uphold. That blouse, it's telling it all. So does your dress. What's wrong with my dress? Can't you even breathe?

How was your third week? Any better? No. That bad, huh? Why am I wasting my time helping old men get a date? I could get out and start my own practice. A marriage counselor would be on my way. Right now, you don't need to be thinking about that. Who's that?

The largest social media inventor since Zuckerberg. He's looking to invest in my company. You run Landover Park. You run there? Every Saturday. With your shirt off so all the pretty girls could notice you.

Oh, you notice me running. How long you guys been married? Six years. I've known him for 19. He's the only guy you've ever been with. We're very compatible. We have nothing

to compare to. It's the second year in a row, Bryce. I'm sorry. My husband forgot my birthday. Does he even notice you anymore? Touchdown! If you want me, then you say it.

Imagine me running into you. If I had a woman like you, I wouldn't miss a thing. Hey! You must be Bryce, right? Yeah. Car. I fell down when Harley helped me out. See you later. Nice to meet you. What are you dreaming about? I don't really dream anymore. What do you dream about? You? I've never seen you act like this. Talk to me. Judith! That boy is gonna hurt you something bad.

I want to feel alive. I want to feel wanted. You never know who you're married to. You start off one way and end up somebody else. You don't know how much I love you. Most women can't handle the kind of emotion that I bring. He gonna take you straight to hell Oh, wow. This is the 14th episode of the third season of Newcomers.

We're working our way through Tyler Perry's body of work for the very first time with the help of Perry Scholars, super fans, and sometimes people who have contributed. There's one episode left because we're doing 15 today. Wow. We watched Tyler Perry's romantic drama. I don't know if there was any romance in this. That's questionable. Temptation, Confessions of a Marriage Counselor from 2013.

Oh my God. If you want to watch this movie, it is available for a fee on Amazon, Apple TV, Google Play, and Vudu. And you can record it on Philo. And obviously we're going to spoil the movie for you. So if you want to watch it first to avoid spoilers, then do that. You might want to watch it, honestly. I mean, I'm not saying because I liked it. I'm saying our guest is incredulous right now.

Before we bring out our guest, Nicole, thoughts on the film? Wow. OK, I got to say, this is Tyler Perry's most current feeling film. It felt like of this moment, it was shot well. Yeah. I mean, it is from 2013,

but like we just watched something from 2019. I felt like it was shot in 2000. Yes. No, I agree with you. I, I, I was guessing as I was watching and thought it was from like 2016,

but it was all based on Kim Kardashian's looks that I was going off of. I was like, her face looks 2016. This is the fourth iteration of. I was like, her face looks 2016 to me. This is the fourth iteration of this face. I gotta say, what a long, meandering movie. And then you get to the juice. And then, boy, the cup runneth over.

It's wild. It becomes so insane. It's completely, it does a 180 in a way that, there no explanation for it there's no justification we don't need it at all i guess um we go from having like the most christian religious character who won't have sex before marriage to she becomes a horrible devil i mean i don't even know sloppy like lady who wobbles around and we don't know if she's drunk or on something or just her hair yeah so mean her mom gets thrown down boy uh we we got to bring our guest out okay our guest is one of the funniest people in the world she's a comedian actress and writer she can be seen on as carol on apple's mythic quest she also co-hosts the fabulous podcast I listen to every week, Couples Therapy, and I love a lifetime

movie. It's Naomi McParagon. Welcome, Naomi. I'm mad at both of y'all. How dare you bring me on to this podcast and have me watch this motion picture? I mean, you think that you are connected with people, you think

that you maybe have a mutual respect and understanding. And then they put you through a process. Because that's what I call that movie. Being put through a process. Have you watched Tyler Perry movies before? I had only seen like a couple Madeas. And then like, maybe Why Did I Get Married?

You know? Yeah. But that was it. Oh my God. His more dramatic works. Naomi's text, because we were texting about it during the movie. But that was it. Oh my God. It was more dramatic works. Naomi's text, because we were texting about during the movie,

we were watching at the same time, and you were actually keeping me going because I put it on initially and then I was like, I got to take a shower. This happened before.

This happened with another Tyler Perry movie. I was like, I put it on, I settle in, and then I go, let me just get myself as comfortable

as I could possibly be and then really do this. And so I came back. And by that point, I was 10 minutes behind you. And you were just giving me so much motivation because you'd be like, oh, my God, the craziest thing happens at one hour 30 or whatever. And I'm like, I can't wait. So it's just it was really exciting to watch it together because it's it's a journey. It is. And no pun intended. Journey's, it's a journey. It is. And no pun intended journey.

Journey went on a journey. Yes, she did. She sure did. This movie is, um, so slow. So slowest.

You texted me and you were like, this movie is pretty wild. I can't wait to talk about it. So I was like, Ooh, baby buckle up every five minutes, just like The Oval, which I am fully caught up in. I watched 30, I believe 30 plus episodes of The Oval.

I am caught the fuck up. I can't wait for July for it to come back. But I thought like things would like be happening and then nothing happens until the last like 35 minutes of this movie. movie well that's so tyler perry but it's also like part of why i was excited for you to watch it is because it's so boring but the things that are happening are really odd like yes just just kim kardashian being there i have so many questions so many in 2013 what she was doing there the question of

do you think it was like to ingratiate herself to her black husband? Was it her trying to get bona fides now that she was going to have brown children? Do you think she was like, I'm really trying to start my career? That's a good question. Yeah, because her kids are what? Probably like six or something.

Right? The oldest one's probably six or seven. That's why I thought she was there. And then Journey, because it was funny, because you see Journey, and I'm like, okay, well well journey kind of came back to us you know what i mean like she was a child star and then she re-emerged wait she was a child star yes do you remember that there was a tv show first of all she was like on full house and everything but then there was like one season of a show with the whole family with the whole small familyett family. Hold on. I have to Google her because I didn't realize this. She's the girl from full house.

Yes. Oh my God. That's wild. Friends with Michelle. Yes. Okay. Oh, yeah.

She's Michelle's black friend. Okay. That honestly, that changes everything for me. That context is really important. Um, I'm here to bring you that background, that,

that TV and film history that makes it even crazier just her whole journey in this movie i i i i i want to get into it so deeply i can't i okay wait and then we have the guy who she has the affair with who is like comes across as like really suave and then within within like, once they start hooking up, he's like the meanest person who ever lived. So mean. And even before they start, you get a little taste that, oh, this guy's too much. And then, but at the same time, the man she's married to, not particularly interested in her or supportive. Forgets her birthday two times.

Forgets her birthday. There are no good options here. Yeah, terrible options also her mother her mother is truly like you are the you are the literal devil to this man and then he was like i am the devil i will rip out this uh apple computer from 1992 and throw you to the ground. It was the thickest computer I've ever seen. I know. Oh my God. No. And then also the part with the whole thing with Brandy,

the whole storyline where we get basically nothing about Brandy for nothing. We have to walk them through this because Brandy's appearance is the most random thing. And the whole time I'm like, what is she doing here with these new veneers? Big chomper. She did

and the pharmacist, little old white lady who's like keeps calling her a lesbian. She is the funniest part of this movie. She's the Madea. Yes. Yes. She's iconic. I loved her. The scene where she was taking all the candy and he's like

why don't you just take the whole thing she's like i don't want the whole thing and then continues to like take more candy yes i'm not describing this well but it was very funny yeah she wasn't she was she was funny but i also was like what is this storyline like why are we getting this pharmacy storyline at all because there was nothing about it she just kept going she's not right she's got something going on she put that hood on you know she had all these like reasons for why something was wrong with brandy and it was like they weren't clear at all and then the reveal that we get tyler perry loves a pharmacy does he yes in the oval somebody else works at a pharmacy like he loves pharmacies he likes to use ideas from himself

he's inspired by his own works right reduce reuse recycle i mean can we get into it because one of the things that upset me the most is yes our one of our leading men is a pharmacist and yet they live and act like he's in a hovel. A pharmacist is a doctor, okay? A pharmacist goes to medical school. A pharmacist does rounds. A pharmacist is trained. And pharmacists make good money. And they were acting like being a pharmacist

was like being a resident or something. Like he just didn't have any money. Completely. And same with Journey's character. She's like low self-esteem or something. And same with with Journey's character. She's like she's like low self-esteem or something. And then Kim Kardashian keeps saying that she's like sloppy and gross. I'm like, no, she's not.

I was like, if anything, she's stunning and just like in a gap kind of way. She looks like, oh, I don't care about, you know, fashion but like she's still a stunning person. Right. Well, because we're going to need to break this down scene by scene. Let's jump into our news.

Medea news media segment, where we will just give you what's going on with Tyler Perry. Now this is big news. And of course, Nicole and I were tagged 1 million times. I gotta say, I feel like Tyler Perry is just giving us news for the podcast. I bet you,

I feel like we stop. Nothing will happen with Tyler Perry. It feels like it because I don't think there was always news about him before. And I also feel like people are like tagging us and I'm like, he might see this connection eventually. I hope so. I hope he realizes how many people

we have brought to his MCU. I hope he casts us in whatever the next Madea movie is. I will be basically any role except clan member. I love that you have to specify it because Tyler would have been like, oh, okay, he's good. And you'd be like, oh, no, I know I only have to be in it for 12 minutes, but I don't want that. But he would have been like, well, what about clan member's wife?

Clan member's wife. Do you want to bring a cake to the rally? Who's trying to get out of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay, but he's coming back now. Tyler, wait, Lauren, that is a fabulous clan member's wife do you want to bring a cake to the rally who's trying to get out of it yeah yeah um so okay but he's coming back now Tyler can you bring wait Lauren what

that is a fabulous idea for Tyler Perry to have a movie where a clan member's wife is trying to escape and Medea helps her oh my god that would be so good

Medea probably run a car through them call it the overground railroad overground do we live? Look, this is how Boo happened, okay? Yeah, I mean, maybe it'll happen.

Boo was a joke and another thing. We just made up a great idea. It's gonna happen. We did. And Tyler Perry will take it and run with it. So Tyler Perry is bringing Medea out of retirement, which is so funny because to me, Medea is not retired at all. She's the forefront of my mind. She was retired in 2019 okay so

that's a really key point it's been we all retired in 2020 i mean i don't think you can say you were in retirement last year you know i feel like yeah because tyler was just making tons of shows that he wasn't in and so he's like medea's retired because he doesn't want covid and then now he's like covid's done Medea's coming out of retirement. New Netflix film is coming. It's called A Medea Homecoming. Now, if you are shocked by this news, I don't know what to tell you.

He will write and direct the film. Absolutely, absolutely. Which is the 12th installment of the Medea franchise. 12. And A Medea Homecoming continues Perry's work with Netflix following 2020's A Fall from Grace, which was watched by 39 million households. And a jazz man's blues, which is expected to premiere later this year.

I mean, Tyler Perry, he's doing it. Not to mention. I opened up my BET plus app because I was trying to find the movie on there. And the first thing I see is Tyler Perry's bra, which is another show he made during this pandemic. A TV show called bruh? And he also has sisters.

Oh my God. Sisters and bruh. And then I don't know if they like intertwine, but they should. I'm sure they are. They probably do. I'm sure Mr. Brown is on them. And there was like,

I looked at his Wikipedia and there's, he's created 14 TV shows. How do we get on his casting director's list i mean my god this is the thing and and what we love is that he shoots everything within a week so you know for all of us we could fit in on our schedule like we can find the days yeah and i doubt there's like positions like you could just do whatever you want while you shoot a tyler perry tv show that takes a month out of your life exactly gail from the oval she hasn't been in all of season two i gotta know where she's at i love the oval which one's gail gail is awful

the oval is you gotta watch the pilot you have the pilot honestly the everything that could happen in a pilot happens but it's tyler perry's drama about the the White House where he recreated 80 80 percent to scale the actual White House and it's definitely 80 percent yeah sometimes you're like the ceiling's low like the ceiling's low it's like weird looking like it's a little wrong someone was commenting I don't know if this was you Nicole who wrote this online or if I read someone else's comment about the oval where they were just saying the the timeline he doesn't care at all about timeline like the inauguration's happening which should be in January yet there are people playing on the lawn like it's like he doesn't give a fuck because he's shooting in Georgia he's like fly in snow I couldn't that'll take time right that'll

cost money he's like I have a budget of 55 now the question is what is a requirement you know that's how you keep that overhead low that's how you make those millions and then the requirement is to have 100 characters that you don't ever name and you just see so many characters follow as closely as humanly possible to try to understand what's going on and who's related to who it's incredible oh he loves it the tyler perry verse truly insane it's it's wide and it it's it's it's truly it's wild and it's a real treat to be to to be watching this i want to be i want to get to tyler perry's end game okay i'm done just end game one big cookout the movie's one giant cookout you have all have all 5,000 characters. Every character. 5,000.

Every single show. The cult is over in the corner. Oh, my God. I'm excited. Okay, why don't we just jump to a break, and then we will come back and get into this plot, because we just have to get into this. There's no time to waste. We're back okay now temptation confessions of a marriage counselor which the title alone what i yeah it's a strange title and but i guess he's trying to be like, even people who counsel people on their marriages can be tempted to step

outside the marriage. But the marriage counselor thing is like a reveal. Yes. But I knew, I mean, we knew it in that. Of course. I was like,

something's up with this woman. We knew instantly that there was definitely something happening. And even within the first moment of her telling her tale, I'm like's you like it's just like but but the title i don't know it's a little bit weird but so it's written by tyler perry directed by tyler perry released march 29th 2013 based on the play the marriage counselor by tyler perry oh key detail yeah yep okay well let's see you want to start us off here sure so a marriage counselor listens to a young married couple bradley and lisa after he refuses to participate further also it was such like a disjointed conversation because he was like i will do anything to stay here with you

and she was like okay and he's like i have to leave and you're like whoa oh also for the record this is a caucasian couple yes caucasian couple and you have to know that the marriage counselor's office looks like um it's like a place you would go to also to cash a check also to renew your license like one of those government buildings very gray it's a really weird office it's a very strange office and also i felt like he was trying to serve me like Mariah Carey in Precious where it was just like kind of sloppy

and sad and she's like, I'll tell you something. Completely. And you're also like, okay, so instantly you're like, do I care about these people or not? I can't tell if I'm supposed to. And you don't need to at all. They are just a framing device. There is no need to have them. Didn't need it at all. You didn't need it at all. You no they are just a framing device there is no need that we did not need it

was nothing to frame at all you didn't need it at all you could have just even seen that woman sitting in the office by herself like i don't even know you don't even need that but like writing her last will and testament but then yes but then you don't get the m night shamalan twist at the end you're right if it's not mind-blowing oh my god like tyler knight shamalon i'm sorry the marriage counselor notices a change in the wife's demeanor and assumes she has met someone else and decides to tell her story to tell her a story about her sister judith but it's so it's so it's such a crazy leap because like basically that woman's like i'm i kind of want i'm not sure if i want to fix it and the guy's like i really want to fix it then he marches out and then she's like you met someone

else you like them more you think that they're gonna be better for you and she was kind of like yeah it was so it was such a leap so we're taking back in time which also wasn't completely clear to me yeah how far back we don't yeah i'm talking once i mean when we see the ending when uh the brace has gray hair i'm like yeah how long ago was this exactly also but you have a child that's four exactly you are they gave you they aged you up for no reason to look like ernie hudson exactly you very much oh my god yeah he doesn't give a fuck about timelines also this childhood i was like is this black forest gump what is happening real black oh my god gump energy yeah you're very right so

okay we go back in time to follow judith and her childhood sweetheart bryce as they grow up so we watch them go from like age four or seven and i get married they move to washington dc long i'm sorry lauren i shouldn't be interrupted you can interrupt me all the time it was too long and then she's like sneaking out of her house to to see him the mother's like we didn't need it though we didn't because what we come to find out is that bryce is not the right man for her ultimately so it's like why do i need to know they have this history i can understand that from someone just saying we've been together since we've been friends since we were little and we've been together exactly also exactly so she's narrating it and she was like so bryce asked for my hand in marriage and my mom

reluctantly said yes and then the mom goes yes wow the reluctant yes was the craziest thing i've ever seen like she was like all right like it was it was so weird so okay judith okay they get married to move to washington dc judith becomes a therapist and works at a matchmaking agency and we need to just talk about this okay so wait i'm sorry where did you say they moved because i had no idea what city they were in they're in dc which i don't know they're in dc okay now let me paint you a picture dc looks like 1940s Baltimore. Thank you. The way they have dressed this, everyone's setting.

Bryce owns like a jalopy pickup truck. Even the pharmacy is like so old Woolworths kind of thing. Like it's super old. The whole vibe. It's got this kind of, especially with that start, which is basically the Mariah Carey, always be my baby video. Just them,

you know, as children being in love and you're like, okay, is this 1960 energy there? But so yeah, she goes to matchmake. It's like, she's a matchmaker, which feels really current.

Yes. And then Bryce, the husband works as a pharmacist in this like old timey pharmacy. It says they're in two separate time periods. Yes. Absolutely. He's old timey. She's somewhat're in two separate time periods yes absolutely he's old timey she's somewhat current and then vanessa williams no we gotta talk about her so she's french for some reason now it's out french the french it's so unclear like she comes and she's like she's like to kim kardashian which is also a crazy thing she's like kim kardashian's there i know she's

like bonjour good morning i'm like we know what bonjour means like give me some credit like i don't need that one translated but like she's french and her accent is really bad this does have a payoff later not payoff but it has another mni chamelon twist yeah you she there's she's forgiven for not having done any dialogue training for this because there's a point to that later. It was terrible, but no one, but everyone acts as though it's not. This office is supposed to be sleek and fancy. And Kim Kardashian's in a flesh-toned bandage dress. She is monotone and mean.

Monotone and mean. She's like, why do you dress like that? Why are you wearing that? She's just insulting Dream. Her in a movie was distracting because i was like very few normal people speak like this yes a monotone baby she sounds like a sad baby because it's like they're like why are you dressed like that uh-huh this is a job about looking good and she's so obsessed with her with journey not being dressed well enough and i had no complaints about anything she was wearing i did not i also had no complaints and she says at one point she was like the way you dress is a reflection on me because if you dress badly people will think you

don't have any friends and we're friends and i was like she's like and i would have my friends dress like that i was like this is all contrived so bryce meets another employee melinda at work and that's brandy and she reveals she's on the run from an abusive ex-boyfriend well she's starting her first day at the pharmacy and she's and then of course old old white lady does she have a name the fact is tyler perry's white people are always cartoony so this woman is at a central casting for a 1947 soda shop. There should be a show called Tyler Perry's White People. Oh my God, the pharmacist didn't make our cast list. I don't know her name. I looked it up.

It is Renee Taylor. And I just love her. She's been in Taylor. Oh, that's her real name. That's her real name. Yeah, her real name's Renee Taylor. I don't know what her name is in this. I don't think she had one.

That's the whole point. She is just unnamed old white lady who says stuff. No, no, no. Okay, her name is Ms. Waco Chapman. What? Stop. Waco Chapman? Is it a hyphenated name?

No. What? What? No, that's not a single name. Her name is Ms. Wacoaco i believe is her first name and chapman is her last name okay so he literally did that thing where you're like this character could be called woman or we can name her like an insane name right right that's what happens when you have you've written 5 000 characters yeah do you know what i mean the only

name left is waco Chapman. Exactly. He's run out of them. He's like, oh, God, I used Judith four movies ago, but I feel like people will forget. You know? Oh, my God. Okay.

Oh, my God. Also, when she's running away from her ex-boyfriend, she puts her hood on. I was like, who are you, Jessica Jones? Are you going to avenge people's death like what are you doing yeah and then she was like running through the streets and then she gets home she gets in her house and she's like holding a baseball bat and i'm like who who's in and her home is from 1942 thank you very much has not been seen in any place i've ever been in my entire life it's a white box that's probably four feet tall but it is shaped around and is from a 1950s home and the

oven is like literally four inches wide and is a piece of shit and everything is covered in dirt everything is dirty and it's sushi it's like like, like, I feel like she would have been in, what do you call it? What was that shirt? The triangle waistcoat fire? Like 1900s tenement energy is what I'm saying. Yeah. 1900s tenement. Something went wrong there recently, but it's a very old apartment.

I don't know why. It's so weird. It's a choice. I don't like, I always hate when people like show that someone's poor by making everything dirty. It's like, that's a choice. I always hate when people show that someone's poor by making everything dirty. It's like, that's not accurate. Everything has to be covered in dirt. You can get thee to a thrift store and find some really cute stuff.

And then, I don't know, it was just like maybe mismatched furniture. I don't know. There was another way to show that she's on the run. Or instability, like maybe she doesn't have much stuff or something. Exactly. You don't have to also be poor. You're already on the run and she doesn't have much stuff or something you don't have to also be poor you're already on the run and she ends up having too much going on as far as I'm concerned

I completely agree okay Judith is dissatisfied with her job and eager eager to start her own business but Bryce tells her to wait until they're doing better financially Bryce takes Judith out for dinner at a $5.99 buffet I think she even said it was $1.99 did she say it was like oh because that was the $5.99 buffet. I think she even said it was $1.99. Did she say it was the one?

Oh, because that was the $5.99 and it was the upgrade. Yeah, but he was joking, but like not. But again, this is the thing. I get that there's supposed to be like two country kids, but again,

Bryce is a pharmacist. You need to say this. In what world is a pharmacist as broke as they are in this movie? Judith works at a fancy office as a matchmaker for rich people. She doesn't need to go to a $1.99 i was like wait what is happening i know who are these jobs do not line up but also did you notice how judith really hated her job but also didn't hide it ever

i was like why is she still here like she literally was like huh you want to meet somebody that's sad you can't just go meet somebody the old-fashioned way. Like, she was so I was like, if I was Vanessa Williams, I would have fired her. Like, she wouldn't even made it into the door. Because she literally was like, I hate it. I think it was like she hates it because she's like, I'd rather talk to people who are already married and having

issues. Right. Oh my God. She wants to be a marriage counselor. So, Judith, one of her clients that she meets is Harley. Okay. She meets him at work and he attempts to seduce her as they work late on matchmaking surveys. He's a black tech billionaire. He's kind of reminding me of what's his name from The Wire.

One of them skinny boys from The Wire. Anyway, and he is just like suave, but also has serial killer eyes. Absolutely. He's definitely creepy and really, really pushy. So when Harley questions the absence of sex in the surveys, he's like, you talk about religion. You talk about relationships. You talk about this and that. You don't talk about sex.

Judith says she does not believe in premarital sex. And he tells her that her sex life is boring. So she's like, I'm Christian and I don't believe in premarital sex and he tells her that her sex life is boring so she's like i'm christian and i don't believe in premarital sex he's like so you're telling me that man you're with is the only man you've ever been with and she's like yes and that's fine and he's like and you get into your bed and you lay down and you fluff the pillows and you just do it in the bed and she's like what's wrong with the bed and like they just go ahead and it's it's so crazy and then she's totally affected but like before conversations that are meant to be titillating.

And I need you to know these are shot in shot, reverse shot, static. Everybody is sitting. There's not a music. Like it's the most like that's what makes it so slow. Because you're like, am I supposed to be impressed by him? Because y'all ain't even shooting this in a way that looks dynamic. Let alone what he's saying is nothing special. It was so true.

Like, I don't get why he's supposed to be so alluring. Like, yeah, there's yeah, they they don't show anything about his personality besides the fact that he's a little bit forward with how he talks about sex. And then later you're like, oh, he's a piece of shit. Like, nothing about him is good. Also, Judith comes home, slams her husband against the wall and she's like fuck me like an animal she's like she's never tried to express herself though she's like they're like in the kitchen she's like do it like you can growl at this sandwich and we'll have sex later where we fluff the pillows, pull back the duvet. He says it exactly like he does.

Exactly what Harley said in the previous scene. And then I was like, is that man stalking her? I was like, did he like hear it? Yeah, how did he know that? And then repeat it? Because later we find out he's, you know, we'll get there. Tyler Perry doesn't trust anyone. Meaning he thinks his viewers are dumb as brick.

So he has to have one person say it in the previous scene not even a callback honey it's just a repeat and then literally the very next scene it is i'm gonna do the thing that the guy said do you see how the guy was right yeah we may be like the guy yeah i mean that's that's a tyler perry style not to keep talking about the oval but there's a scene where uh the butler i can't remember his name but his wife cheated on him and had a kid and then he's like who's the father she's like i can't tell you he's like who's the father i can't tell you for maybe two minutes who's the father i can't tell you and i was like this this is not a scene but you can't do this

tyler just get in and out like we know what they're getting at so redundant okay so bryce forgets judith's birthday and doesn't notice that she changes her hair. At work, Judith receives flowers and believes they're from Bryce. Harley appears and notes the change in her appearance. The flowers are actually from him. And also, this is the second time he's forgotten the birthday.

This is the second time her husband has forgotten her birthday. You need to set up Google Calendar alerts that give you a five-day warning to prepare something. Yeah. There's no excuse. If you miss it once, you got to figure out how to never miss it again.

Exactly. And I mean, for a marriage counselor, she is not handling her business. You know what I mean? Because that's what I would have been like. I have been hurt by you in the following ways. When you forget my birthday. For people who have known each other your entire lives, it's crazy that you don't that didn't make no sense to me y'all went through puberty together it's also crazy that he forgets her birthday you've known her for uh like your whole life right so

you know your birthday and her birthday those are the birthdays you know it should be like christmas like you have that one memorized so at home judith is petty and leaves a cupcake with a candle on the counter bry Bryce realizes his mistake and then he like takes out a hat and he sings and he dances in a cowboy outfit this was so weird what was that and that like really worked for her yeah I was like Otis Redding great I love him what a beautiful song but like you forgot my fucking birthday exactly and I had to remind you by passive-ag passive aggressively leaving a cupcake. Yeah.

And then they like reconcile and everything's fine. And I was like, I don't know about this. I didn't like that. That's all. So Judas. So now I hate Bryce, by the way,

I'm sorry. I hate Bryce. The moment he forgets his birthday. Yes. You have to hate everyone. But okay. Well, this is the thing I'm like for a movie that's supposed to obviously teach me

about the sanctity of marriage and the importance of living by jesus's principles the husband is trash yeah that is by the way like that's where as it goes on and on you go like i guess the moral is not to cheat like it's truly like that is very clear so judith's boss janice sends her to new orleans with harley to finalize a deal with shareholders. Now this is when they're on the plane and he like comes over and tries to like spread her legs. Yeah, I was like,

this is really uncomfortable. She said no several times. She's literally said no. He says, fine, you've said no. At least you can say you said no. And I was like, sir? It was a really fucked up way to rape somebody, unfortunately. Yes, absolutely. you've said no, at least you can say you said no. And I was like, sir, it was a really fucked up way to rape somebody.

Unfortunately. Like it was like, she was, but then she's turned on, but it's like, I mean, you know, it's an extremely complicated situation,

you know, put in the guise of it's extremely simple, but it's like, actually there's so many layers to that. But what it is is he just goes like, he's so pushy. She's saying, no, no,

no, I do not want to do this. And then he goes like, well, that's now basically in the transcript that you said that. It's on the record. You're not going to be in trouble with your husband when we now continue to have sex. It was like, yes. But here's the thing. Do you remember, though?

I have to go back to this moment because this is the first time we realize he's crazy. So early on, they established that like Harley and Judith have run across each other literally like they both run in the same park every morning yes yes they're very fit so then there's a moment when he's like oh yeah I'm there 8 a.m every Saturday whatever so then you see the weekend where Judith gets up on a Saturday morning and like goes and like pretty much pretends to start running so she can bump into Harley but see and this is how you know God is not into this. Because the moment she started running with him, a cyclist knocks her over and

breaks her foot or something. Well, she runs into the cyclist. It is her fault. But Harley literally is prepared to beat this man to a pulp by accidentally hitting the girl who ran into him. So that's your first flag.

It's like, Harley, you, and she's like, Harley, stop. But then I think she like, kind of likes it because she's supposed to like it because her husband wouldn't fight the pack of people at night,

the gang at night. Oh, that was another one where earlier in the movie, there's some guys who say, who like cat call her basically. And she's extremely offended. Insanely offended.

Her reaction is so crazy. there it's it's a dark street these like three or four guys say something to her about her being hot or whatever she's with her husband she goes like come over here and say it to me and then like is going insane about it and Bryce is like let it go it's okay and then they get home and she's like you do need to let it go. Like, I mean, I don't know. That one was just so weird, but it was,

I think that was, that was the exact, you know, A to B sort of he's like this. He's like this. Oh my God. This very much reminds me of every lifetime movie I watch. I was,

I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this. You have to watch a lot of people do insanely dramatic things and just say, and just say like, make up stupid reasons for doing that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. No justification. Yeah, and just say, and just say, like, make up stupid reasons for doing that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No justification.

So, okay. So then what happens is Judith's co-worker, Ava, who's Kim Kardashian, gives Judith a makeover. In New Orleans, Judith and Harley complete the business deal

and go dancing and sightseeing. When they're sightseeing, they go to Cafe Du Monde and he feeds her a beignet and I was like, no. Absolutely not. The powdered sugar will go no you know what you don't do the messiest food exactly and also just in general feeding someone yes i'm pretty sick no thank you i don't want anyone putting anything in my mouth lauren i was like honestly worried this movie was going to induce labor because i

thought that like your fetus was going to be like I want this to be over I need to get out and my stress you know is high it could

oh god it could have happened on the way home Harley and Judith have sex in his private jet okay so that's when that happens

yeah yeah yeah so it's after it's after the trip okay well that's I forgot that but it's still after like Kim, yeah. So it's after the trip. Okay, well, that's, I forgot that. It's like after, like, Kim Kardashian gets her dress to go on the trip. So now she's fancy for Harley. She's fancy for him.

Which is also so disturbing. So then he takes her home and he meets Judith's mother, Sarah. He comes up in his shiny red Corvette or whatever it is. Yeah, it's a Ferrari. Oh, Ferrari. Shameless, like, literally is like hello mom you know and truly he's like i'm the new one hello and she's married he's right there he's right there next to the mom and she knows she has just been forced into sex with this man

oh and her hair's all messed up after that yes oh this is her hair is messed up a lot in the movie i'm like wait why didn't you just like brush your hair up to have sex on the plane? Yeah, why didn't you do anything to pretend that you didn't just have sex with this man? Yeah. Also, Bryce tries to kiss her and she like keeps her mouth closed.

And I was like, you're not hiding this well. Right. No, no, no, no. So unhappy with Bryce's inattentiveness, Judith, oh my God, sneaks out to meet Harley and they have sex again he demands that she leaves bryce and offers to help with her business they get into a fight and judith leaves this is wild because she sneaks out while her mother is at her house thank you bryce is there

and she like goes to have like a full romp with this man i know like they're making food and i'm like how much time has passed i know it doesn't make any i'm like oh no oh no but yeah i was like this movie is like three weeks long like or something like the changes that happen and oh my god it's insane but it's also the thing that also like made me want to vomit in my mouth is he's like i'll help you get your business started. One condition. You got to be mine. And he was just like, so gross. I was like, you are literally like being owned by this man. Why would you take the money of a stranger, a rapey stranger, who says you have to belong to him? Judith, I know you're from the country, but goddamn, you went to college.

Well, and it's like the second person she's had sex with. So she's like, oh. And then the fight was confusing because I can't remember what he said, but she's like, screw you. And then like throws food at him. She pushes him. She like moves his chairs. And I was like, this is a psychopath.

Because what had happened was he was like, you know, because he's like, you know, be mine. And then she's like, what about Bryce? Like, how do I get out of this? Right. And he literally is like, get the fuck out of here. I don't want to play these games. She literally like asking you, how do I consciously uncouple? Like, get the fuck out of here.

And she's like, what? He's a psycho. I know. It's like he's so psychotic. I just wish someone had shown her like, OK, Cupid or something to be like, if you want to have an orgasm, you have other options. Oh, my God. Please. Yes.

So Janice fires Judith after finding out about her plans. To go start a new company with Harley, because basically he's like, I don't want to do this app anymore. I want to make a marriage counseling center. Judith like comes in and she's like, I'm giving you my two weeks. And then Janice is like, actually today is your last day. And then she's like,

good, whatever. Also, I found out you're from Georgia and you spent two weeks in France and you got this dumb ass accent. And I was like, Oh, and then she was like,

get out of here. Her accent completely changed. It was so crazy. So, okay. Bryce discovers Judith is having an affair and begs Judith to return to him. Judith chooses to stay with Harley. Bryce goes over to Melinda's where she

comforts him. Wait, is that before? That's the montage of insanity, right? Because there's a montage where literally it is just Bryce and Judith having a pretty woman moment. And he's just like buying her things and she's wearing glasses.

She's so happy that she's rich now. And I found it to be like the saddest character. I was just like, you are so superficial. She just was like yay i don't care who i hurt now i have a dress and i'm in a car it's like i don't understand i don't understand and it's also so confusing because i was like you actually had all this available to you before not maybe this level of well he's a pharmacist i'm just gonna keep you doing fine

and then they get into another fight where judith is like in her closet or what oh because he says something to her and she was like why does your mom leave you in a crack house again oh well that's that's her what's his name oh harley oh was that am i too am i too oh yeah we haven't gotten there yet girl because that's because it's starting to find out about brandy it's starting to pick up sorry sorry sorry we have a couple more scenes so this is where he goes to the party in his pickup

truck and she's like strung out with him yes okay so they go they're at like a fucking like orgy like opium den his house oh that's his house I thought it was a club no that was his house filled with every every every extra tyler could round up in atlanta it looked crazy blue lighting it looks like a club

and they're all like on the couch and judith is suddenly like like yeah it's like i don't know what happened to her but she is blonde women on either side too. So then it's like Judith in an orgy with Harley and the two white girls. It was super weird. It was, it was such a leap. But then Bryce tries to take her and then she like, she pushes them away. And then another blonde lady comes out of nowhere and she's like me. And he's like, get away, get away from me. And I was like, what, what is this party where you enter?

And then people go okay well i have to fuck this new person totally so judith chooses to stay with harley which is a nice way of putting it they have a very sad fight she's like out there she's like i like literally she went from like i've known him my whole life and he's my best friend to like i hate you and your trash and he's like so she becomes pure evil which we know tyler perry loves to do he's like if you're not sure i'll make it very clear you hate her now like it's just like there's no gray area ever and bryce is so sad he says if you come home with me right now i'll forget about all of this i was like you're gonna forget

picking her up at an orgy? He forgot her birthday twice. He could probably forget that too. Fair. Bryce is like, he has like memory loss and it's like, we need to address this. He's like, don't worry, I'll forget this. And she's like, hmm, weighing my options. Okay, so Bryce goes over to Melinda's where she comforts him.

Judith returns home to pick up a laptop and is surrounded by her. That's not yet where it happens no but when melinda comforts him he like tries to kiss her and she's like hey stop it we're not even attracted to each other and he's like yeah you're right when she said we're not attracted to each other i was like you know he's not attracted to you like i don't know it was just like a funny thing to say like wait what are you doing you're're being crazy. I liked it. It made me laugh because it was just so like, what is he doing? And I thought, okay, Tyler isn't totally out of his mind because I didn't think we could

live in a world where literally, because the way they set it up too, it's like, I mean, first of all, Melinda's Brandy, right? And Brandy didn't come here to not be wanted, not be loved, right? And so I'm assuming they're going to get together. Yeah. And that would be an upgrade for her. She's trying to escape this bad relationship and he's like really stable and boring and that'd be great so okay judith returns home to pick up a laptop which is random and she

is surrounded by her mother and church members in a prayer circle sarah grabs with her harley's with her and he loves he sees all these women in a prayer circle, and he starts laughing. Like, he's, like, ready to fuck shit up. They are together. They're the devil. Yes. Because then the prayer circle is like, you're home. She came back. She's home.

Like, what they'd been praying for had happened. And then they're both like, get the fuck off of me. And they're, like, just, like, storming through. And then Harley knocks down Sarah. So hard. And forces Judith to leave. He flings her onto the ground old lady and at harley's judith is outraged by his treatment of her mother and so she's like slowly rifling through her clothes picking out which one she wants to take i'm like just grab whatever like it's exactly also like out of there why did you even ride back with his ass you see what i'm saying? I would have stayed with my mom.

Just stay there. And she like picks her up. But then they go back to fight with each other. It's like, stay at your house. You need to be in the middle of the prayer circle. Okay? Quite honestly, she needed the prayer. Seriously.

And then he assaults her after she attempts to leave. And this is very brutal. It is brutal. This is where he was like, you knocked down my mom. And then he's like, whatever. And she's like, sorry that my mom didn then he's like whatever and she's like sorry that my mom didn't leave me in a crack house when i was a baby and then harley i'll say this this actor he did a really great job of like turning literally fucking insane like you saw him go

through the motions of like yeah oh i'm incentive like this i'm angry i'm angry i'm gonna fuck you up yeah i was like oof he's scary yeah he was terrifying but it. I'm angry. I'm going to fuck you up. I was like, oof, he's scary. Yeah, he was terrifying. But it's also like, because at first when they're fighting, they're both kind of pushing each other, right? At first, she's going upstairs. And there was something about that fight where I did feel like that was very, before it gets violent where he's like,

come up the stairs. Then she's walking up the stairs. And she's like, I'll go upstairs if I want to go up the stairs. Like the way you be saying shit when you just like want to prove that you're like you don't tell me what to do even though you're doing the thing the person wants you to do um so at first i was like okay is this gonna be something but then of course it became dark dark dark terrifying because because then he also says he goes i just love you so much when you don't have my back it makes me sad it's like yes it's like what is

sanity it's like have my back you knocked my mom on the ground like how much time has passed you love her so much has it been two weeks has it been i know i know i know there's no time no time at all uh so bryce has dinner with melinda okay now here's Here's this. We gotta talk through this reveal. Yes. This is. So they're at Brandy's apartment. Yes. Her dirty apartment.

Her dirty 1942 hovel. Yeah. She makes like one egg on the stove and they're like having dinner or whatever. I don't even know what she made. And then like she literally out of nowhere.

Out of nowhere. In a moment of silence no one has prompted her with any question. Yes. She's like I have HIV. one has prompted her with any question. Yes. She's like, I have HIV. And he's like, what? I have HIV.

My ex gave it to me. Harley. And then Bryce goes, no! And then he goes, he screams in her face, Judith! Oh, Judith. Judith! Judith! About the woman who is not present.

He is screaming at Melinda, the name Judith. not present he is screaming at melinda the name judith like that is something okay but i would have been like harley who i know a harley harley there's multiple people named harley you definitely have to give the opportunity for it to not be the person that your wife is now with and you also just need to have some compassion and be like, I'm really sorry that happened to you. Like it was like, he jumps right to like flipping out about his own life. Yeah. And then she says something that like bugged me.

I was like, this is wild. She was like, I knew that my ex was cheating on me and sleeping around. So, you know, I essentially, I knew what I was messing with and it happened and I was like that's my

part yeah yeah she said that's my part in it and I was like no no no that's an insane way to describe it maybe he was trying to like normalize being HIV positive but like that's not it that's not the way you do it well also I'd say this though you want to normalize

being HIV positive don't have the girl living in a 1920s tenement. Totally. In the dark, in the dirt. You know, because I felt like for something you were trying to, like, make a dramatic reveal. It's like you made her such a, I mean, she was positive or upbeat, but her whole situation was downtrodden. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, I just have to start a new job and I got to walk in the dead of night and put my hood up. It's like, OK, this is not it. And by the way, for somebody who was running from Harley, Harley didn't seem to be worried about it. Harley was just doing his thing. Harley didn't give a fuck about her. He's extremely wealthy. He's he's totally fine and has never thought about her again. And I mean, and I guess is living with HIV as well.

But we don't know that about him. I mean, we assume that he gave it to her. But it's like, so, you know, this brings back a lot of the issues that we've talked about with like the way men and women are portrayed. Where it's like he's thriving, even though he is pure evil. Brandy is like sweet and nice but like struggling and it's like what am i supposed to and like and all the women are abused and everyone it's it's just it comes up a lot yeah yeah it's yeah i don't know the lesson we're supposed to learn so i don't know i don't either but it's also so he runs away but here's my other thing too though it's like

i was very surprised for me i was like okay this is a thing to like give brandy a moment i never i was like there's no way judith miss good for jesus judith would have had unprotected sex with this guy right well maybe she's only had unprotected sex because she's only slept with one person she was like and this is what we do for everybody. Oh my God, you're right! Right? Maybe, maybe somebody didn't talk to her about condoms. What we do for everybody. So Bryce breaks into Harley's place with Melinda

and finds Judith in the bathroom, truly just passed out. She's in the bathtub. Beaten bloody and unconscious. And you're like, where's Bryce?ce is nowhere to be found so after taking then he picks her up he picks up uh what's her name judith and she what i had a really hard time with was that she was like completely beaten and in this tub and

then he picks her up and she's like hi and then even the fact that her face moved like that i was like it seems like it doesn't hurt she drunk yeah that's the thing was she supposed to be like on drugs or drunk kind of the entire movie when she gets with Harley? Because that was the thing too, because she felt more wasted. I think so, because she would stumble around a lot. Like she would get out of his red Ferrari and like stumble inside. And you're like, okay. So after taking Judith to his truck, Bryce goes back into the house and wakes up Harley, who is just, you know, taking a real deep snooze after beating up his woman.

He got tired. He got tired. I guess so. Face down on the bed, across the bed in full clothing. Yeah. That's like how evil he is. And when he wakes up, he's like, who's here? I don't know you.

What's going on? So then Bryce beats him the fuck up and throws him through a window. I gasped. I was like, this is nuts. It's so nuts. Oh my God,

it was so crazy. They fly through this window. But didn't you feel like this was the part, like once that Brandy reveal came, like what I imagine was Tyler Perry was sitting here writing this movie, you know,

when he sets a timer for 45 minutes and he like just realized he was like oh man this is going too long I gotta wrap this up and then he just made everything happen within the last 20 minutes this is like Medea goes to jail where Medea doesn't go to jail

until the last 30 minutes which is so wild get her to the jail I thought this was the joke. Like, come on. Oh my God. So Bryce beats Harley until he's like fully unconscious. Stopped by Melinda.

As Harley regains consciousness, he calls out to Melinda, whose real name is Karen. And he's just like, Karen, I knew you'd come back. And I was like, sir, that's not it. But Bryce threatens Harley to stay away from Karen and Judith, and they leave.

Now, in the present day, now this is where I really. I fully forgot. I fully forgot we were even in this device. I got mad at this point. So in the present day, the marriage counselor, anonymous marriage counselor, wraps up her story, and Lisa wonders how it ends. That's the white woman.

She's like, how does it end? She's riveted. She's crying. And she's like, but how? This is an hour-long session, 50 minutes at most. And you're up in here giving this? She was like, and what happened to them? She couldn't care more.

So the marriage counselor tells her that and this is the most like morality play type thing ever in the world the marriage counselor tells her that judith contracted hiv as well but not bryce lisa thanks the marriage counselor and decides to stay with her i'll end all in the relationship i'll stay with my husband i couldn't leave him what's gonna happen is you're in love with this other man you're're going to get HIV and your whole life's going to fall apart. It's like the craziest version of what can happen. Maybe she'll just be happier with this other man. It's like, who knows what's going on with Lisa.

Yeah, also condoms. Yeah, wear a condom. Come on. Jesus. Okay, so the marriage counselor is revealed to be judah and if you didn't know that by now yeah if you didn't know this at the beginning she looked like she's looking like journey's sister and she got like 27 siblings so i'm like are they related because she's already looking like her anyway but then and then when she's like you know is judith she's like yes she's hiv but she's already looking like her anyway. But then, and then when she's like,

you know, is Judith, she's like, yes, she's HIV, but she's still alive. And so then after this very long, I mean, I'm hoping Judith didn't charge for the session. And then she leaves. Judging by the office, maybe it was like a $5 session or something. It's like one of those sliding scale joints, definitely.

And then Judith, like also, again again how much time has passed she's dressed like a geriatric she's so old and she limps she shuffles around she shuffles to the pharmacy where bryce still works to get her hiv medicine he's now so old 65 he's old but brandy is also still there is still there. Karen is still there. Melinda Karen is still there. But what I kind of drove me nuts was that Bryce is played by the same actor. Melinda is played by the same actress and care or what's her name? Judith is not. And I think that was like to throw you off.

That is to throw us off. But it's like, they should all be different than like, I don't even know. Like, but like, I'm still going like, why is Bryce?

He has now a gray wig and then his like like a prosthetic nose yes he did it was like what why are you doing an hour the hours his new his new wife comes in with their child who's like four and you're like okay so i i and the and the pharmacy looks the same so it's like what has time passed he's in charge now right so obviously waco chapman died and now he owns it because his dream was to own a pharmacy yes waco chapman passed away too much candy i realized at that moment i had seen this very clip of the, not clip, like meaning it might have been on TV and I saw this part where it was like

she gets this old this girl goes to get a medicine I forgot her name was Waco Chapman until you said it It was so perfect that you remembered it It really made me laugh It's insane I remember her like getting her medicine you know what I mean, it's like

and like again, cause nothing can be subtle. It is literally him going, I'll do whatever. He's like, I'm always here for you, Judith. And then Judith is leaving this beautiful, stunning black woman and her little boy.

And then Judith kind of waves at the boy. But then you're like, does the woman know who Judith is? The woman had no idea who Judith was. And the woman's like 35. Right. So he, his life is like restarting with this young woman and judith like hobbles out you won the whole credits there are five and a half minutes of credits over judith's ass hobbling with her hiv medication

that is how this movie went the women have hiv and the men worked it out yeah the men get to thrive rice didn't get it we don't like it's not dead as far as literally just be go like she goes like lisa's like what about bryce she's like no he didn't get hiv and it's like this is so crazy so yeah i mean that's it we so she goes to church to meet with her mother at the end. And the credits roll as she walks down the street. She hobbles down the street. Now married to Jesus. Married to the one man she can trust. I need years to be put on this.

I need time stamps. Like, this is 2019. This is 1949. Yeah, it would have been nice to be like, when is this shit happening? It made me like, I it lauren before you came in nicole i was like it made my stomach hurt i found that ending to be so depressing because if anything yeah what i wanted was the knowledge like bryce and judith weren't right for each other like they never got to grow they were in like she acted out and what she did was wrong right and like i would

have been totally down if she was like i found found God and I realized I treated you wrong. Cause I know he got in there. You know what I'm saying? But did she have to get HIV? No, she didn't. Human immunodeficiency virus. She didn't have to.

Why? I mean, I'm. And be alone and sad and hobbling. Yes. That's the thing too. Alone and sad and hobbling. Her life was just so.

Tyler framed it as a punishment. And I don't think it's just something that like happens that i think is what made it feel so bad because it was like every time it came up it was like and that's because i cheated and it's like wait wait wait wait this is like not indicative of like a moral decision or something it has nothing to do with anything right so it just it did feel like really negative to put it in that light and i just thought it was it seemed really easy in a weird way like it's kind of like okay like it just wasn't thoughtful yeah it was also like it's okay if your husband doesn't remember your birthday and doesn't really talk to you if he's a good christian man you make him dinner totally yeah they should have made bryce like

better as a husband to really make it feel like then i would have been like okay well there's somebody to root for there was no one to root for you couldn't even root for melinda because you were like what's the hood what are these boots is she fucking robin hood wait the boots like oh my god wait was she wearing the same boots at the end because she had these yes son she was like wearing the same outfit with a big skirt yeah so all these years she did one shoot day brandy did one shoot you know that you know that's true she was like one she half the day in a pharmacy the other half of the day in the small apartment that's a hundred percent of fact there's no question that's so true and they were like we only need one costume you're fine so i mean okay

let's jump into some of these awards so the the film won kim kardashian won a razzie for worst supporting actress okay great and tyler perry was nominated for worst director oh that's good the film currently has 17 fresh rating on rotten tomatoes with a critic from the New York Times writing, limp pacing and countless shots of Washington's skyline plague the narrative. And yeah, we all missed where it was. Yeah, we had no idea. But audiences liked the film

for the most part. It has a Rotten Tomato audience score of 66%. The budget was $37 million and it grossed $53 million domestically. Okay. So not one of his best. Not one of his best. $37 million and it grossed $53 million domestically. Okay. So not one of his best. Not one of his best. No, no.

$37 is way more than he spends in general, though. Yeah. I'm surprised it was that much. Oh, maybe it was Journey. There were like five actors in four locations. Maybe Waco Chapman was really expensive. Renee Taylor is, you know, she's been in the business a long time. She has a high rate.

And honestly, she should get it. She should get it. The trivia from this movie. So while filming a pivotal scene between Judith and Bryce, Lance Gross slammed the door of the truck so hard the window shattered. Which guy is that, Bryce? When they're fighting outside the party. Yes.

Jeez, that's really aggressive. You see it happen. They kept that take. Well, there's probably only one take. One and done. Right. You see it happen. They kept that take. Well, there's probably only one take. Oh my God, you're right. But also, that means real glass got on him. And now I'm worried that he didn't have the on-set medical. There was no medic.

There was no medic to call. They said, you'll have to keep shooting. He said, okay, fine. The film is loosely adapted from Perry's 2008 play, The Marriage Counselor. And Tyler Perry wrote the role of Ava specifically for Kim Kardashian. Because he watched The Devil Wears Prada and was like, Giselle,

she was stunt casting as an assistant. I'll stunt cast Kim Kardashian as an assistant. Oh my God. That is so true. Wow. So I'm trying to figure out how long it took them to shoot this, because a lot of times that's one of our trivia things and I love it. I can't figure that out right now, but it was shot in Atlanta. I do think he took his time on this.

So it was shot in Atlanta at Tyler Perry Studios. So that's also the reason why the city stuff always feels weird. Yeah. And the rooms and the apartments are very much like the way you would shoot good times do you know i mean like you've got three walls and it's like tight in and i'm like okay this is all like a set of a hundred percent yeah very good times energy but really just bad times no naomi does this change your opinion of Tyler Perry movies would you watch another one will you watch the

oval you know these are the questions absolutely not okay I'm still mad at both of y'all and that's why I had to keep talking because I said what else am I here for because they done broke me down with limping ass old version of Journey

and I said this is the saddest shit I ever seen. And I swear to God, when it cut back to her finishing the story to the white girl whose husband walked out, I screamed

because I had fully forgotten that this was even a conceit. We did not need that at all. No, not at all. Even knowing later that what happened to her character I don't think was necessary like it was just kind of like much because because it was just so it was just so

kind of i don't know depressing weird yeah sad it could have just been enough for bryce to have moved on and her to feel bad right that would have been enough without the implication that all she has is her mom and god now not that having your mom and god isn't enough but it's you know wasn't what she wanted but i think tyler perry really i think he wanted to like twist the knife that there's only one pharmacy in town and she's got to see bryce that's so brutal that she has to go to that pharmacy you're right oh my god yeah why did she and the amount of time that's passed now since she looks much older and like she has a whole different head it's like you're like wait so why didn't why is her life her life never got anything going for it like except she was a marriage

counselor that's it that's it it's like the unmarried marriage counselor who tells everyone to she tells every single patient every single day she tells that story just to convince them to stay together that's it how depressing yeah this movie was really depressing I feel like my love of Tyler Perry

is a little bit waning because I really loved Madea but like the last couple of Madea movies we saw, I was like, these are, there's just, there wasn't thought behind it.

And I didn't feel like Tyler was being, you know, caring with Madea. I know. I'm genuinely saying this. No, it's true because I think

we were like really, we came into it like super open-minded and we were like finding things to love with so many of them. But there's just, some of these movies are just like, they're ridiculous. Like have to admit it like it's just like this is absurd the storyline of this i like the absurdity in some of the situations like i like even when brandy goes i have hiv i was like okay like it was like there's something about it that's like so blunt

and like not connected to anything that you're like that's kind of fun because it's he's he just follows his impulses right but then you want then you when after you've watched you know 14 of them you long for some like structure and you know well didn't you say though lord at one point you were like brandy's in a different movie that

we don't get to see oh yes yes you see her like at work and then you don't know what's going on with her at all until she reveals this whole thing at the end and you're like, why is this woman... So for like an hour,

I'm wondering what her deal is and I'm like, where is she now? What's she up to? Yeah, it was as if Tyler Perry was like, I do have a B storyline, but it's going to actually be like a Y storyline. It's going to be so far away

from the a storyline uh we'll get back to when we get back to it but like why but then it's also but to me i hate that kind of stuff where it's like then why brandy it could have been any old person from the uh tyler perry verse you know what i mean like any old actress to me the moment you put in like such a recognizable like pop star i'm like like, okay, something's about to happen. Something, yes. It's like it does set you up to think something's going to happen.

It's like on one like SVU, like there's like a celebrity who's like being interrogated. Like, okay, they're the killer or whatever, whatever. But like, it feels like that. Like we were like, okay, something's going to happen with her character, but then you don't see her for so long that you're like, or not.

Like there is a world where he just throws her in there because he wanted to. Because she was in Atlanta that weekend. Right. Instead he said, I'm gonna give beloved Moesha slash brand new Norwood HIV because she...

And blame herself for it. And blame herself for the HIV. Yes, she blames herself for staying with someone who cheated on her. Tyler, we gotta talk about this one. Yeah. Yeah.

That was dark. Well, we are coming to the end, you know, which I think is probably great for you, Naomi, but do you have anything

you'd like to plug? Well, look, if y'all listen to these two talk about Tyler Perry, you can come to I Love a Lifetime movie. Don't play. It is the same type of motion picture. And it is true insanity. And it is me and a white woman, the similar dynamic to this. And we're just getting into it.

Episodes drop every Thursday. But we are like sponsored by, like we are sponsored by Lifetime. So, you know, we have to be a little respectful. Yeah, that's tricky. And Couples Therapy. Everyone should listen to Couples Therapy, which I love so much. So much.

I was nervous to promote two podcasts. Oh my God. So thank you for doing the second one. We'll leave it on and promote Mythic Quest as well. Promote it all. You gotta watch MQ. Come on. And you're on Tuca and Birdie.

You have a lot of things to do. Yes, promote it all all tell these people where they can find you come visit me I'm hanging out on Instagram at Blackdress Comedy Mythic Quest season 2 is out here on Apple TV I'm out here trying to podcast hun I'm opening for Nicole at the improv

I mean we are yes in Irvine hold on let me find June 25th 26th 27th yes yes great so this will come out in time for people to go get those tickets that's great well it is sold out but they may release more

tickets because I think June 15th everything is like open again yeah so I don't know if they were like half sold I don't know I don't there just look there might be more check it out check it out that's gonna be a good show it's gonna be sold. I don't know. I don't. There. Just look. There might be more. Check it out. Check it out. That's going to be a good show. It's going to be very fun.

I can't wait. Well, it's time for our five. Hallelujah. Our segment. It's my favorite thing. And I like refuse to say it. I just keep talking to Lauren says it. I always think maybe this time and then no, I have to say it. And this one comes from CurlyChirly11.

Five stars. Love this podcast. Hi, Lauren and Nicole. I love this podcast and I've seen most of the movies in all three seasons and I enjoy your takes so much. I listened to the Star Wars season three times in a row and still belly laugh when Nicole says Hans Olo. Listening to the Tyler Perry season, you guys point out a lack of reactions after big moments

and I think it's because in a play, the act would end after the wine bottle, so he just cuts the scenes in the movies the same way. Shrug. Anywho, love you guys. Can't wait to listen to the rest of the season. That's a great point. Yes, thank you CurlyChurly11. And then we have one from KeyMib,

and it's called Hallelujah. Wait, what? You guys are living in my brain rent-free. I'm a big fan of your pod. I anticipate your new episodes weekly. I'm having way more fun listening to these recent reviews of the MCU. And I love that even after watching this many of Tyler Perry's productions, you are still as confused as I am about the character relationships. Am I going to dig any deeper to understand?

Oh, hell no. The fun is being confused, but still can't stop watching. Keep up the good work, you guys. It is funny that we consume a lot of stuff and are still confused like Star Wars still confuses me

Lord of the Rings still confuses me I have no idea who's related to who I don't know Star Wars either no I don't know Star Wars

we've done as much research as people possibly could and yet we're still lost everyone out there write more reviews for us we'll pick more to read. We have one more episode left, so give us five stars.

It helps the show and we'll be back next week with our final Tyler Perry episode. Boy. Boy, oh boy. It's the end of an era. Yeah, I'm like pretty bummed, but also so thankful

that I was introduced to the Oval that I'll talk about for the rest of my life. Oh my God. I'm going to watch the Oval. I'm going to watch the oval I'm gonna watch the oval I really liked the pilot I thought it was so crazy so I am gonna watch that I need some things to binge crazier and I'll just tell you this real quick we've seen the scene where the first son throws cum on this doctor the scene after okay you just said something real crazy like it was matter of fucking fact the first set is really sick he's not okay um and he like jerks off in front of people and there's a

scene where he throws his cum on this doctor who very calmly like leaves the room she well she was like please stop please stop he's like i can't i'm sick and then it on her. And then the scene after was truly like Tyler Perry being like, I don't really know where to go with this. Because everyone was like, he did something to her. Is she okay? What? Oh, no. I can't.

I will never know. You can literally see that he didn't know where to go after. I'm so upset. Why do you keep upsetting me the pilot alone had them enough crazy shit in it that i mean just the stuff that happens is so insane all at the white house and you're like yes like the like the first lady and the president the presidents yes the first lady and the president are kicking each other's asses right before the inauguration ball and like they're beating the shit out of each other and then like

the reveal is that they're the president and first lady. Like you're just in this hotel room and they're like punching each other and then like someone's at the door like Mr. President it's time for the ball or whatever. That's your part Lauren. It's time

for the ball. They're pretending they can't hear the fist fight happening on the other side of the door. It's just truly wild. Well, Naomi, thank you so much for being here. Thank you. That was so fun. You're welcome. Okay.

I was going to say thank you, but I just don't know. No, no, no. That's fair. No. Thank you guys so much. So good to see you. And I am forever changed. Okay, bye-bye. Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.