Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Fate Of The Furious (w/ Niccole Thurman)

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

Niccole Thurman (Grace and Frankie, Jellystone) joins Nicole and Gabrus to discuss the eighth film in the Fast & Furious Franchise—The Fate of the Furious (2017). Follow Niccole on Twit...ter and Instagram and check out The Scroll Down on Headgum.  Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what franchise they should check out next. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. All right team, listen up. This crew is about family, but the game has changed now. Dominic Toretto just went rogue. You're gonna turn your back on family? I know it looks bad. Don't give up on him so easy. You've only got one chance to make this family whole again. Don't do this, Don. You ready?
Starting point is 00:00:33 One thing I can guarantee, no one's ready for this. She's the very definition of high-tech terrorism. There's thousands of cars in this city and now they're all mine. Now I know what it feels like to be every cop ever chasing us. London, Abu Dhabi, Cuba. Our paths have crossed before, Don. You just didn't know it.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I think I need to remind you why you chose to be here. I got no choice! If you're gonna catch Dom, you're gonna need a little help. You wanna tell me why you just put me in a room with this teen crumpet-seating criminal? You know, I think that tight t-shirt cutting off the circulation your brain you should get bigger slice You guys are gonna work together. Love to Have been waiting for this we got a tank Now it's my turn
Starting point is 00:01:45 Baby We got a tank. Now it's my turn. Boom, baby! I don't know why you're doing this, but I know one thing. You love me. Fire! Hang on to your ass! Dump! Oh, boy. Okay. Boop, boop, boop, boop. It's newcomers. Do-do-ba-da-da. Wow, boy.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Okay. Lauren's not here. Testing out the new theme song. This new theme song, you know, I'm always creating. That's who I am. Okay. So, Lauren, she ain't here. She's fucking doing some shit, tinkering around at home.
Starting point is 00:03:01 She's got a little mini project. A little mini, tiny little project. Gabrus is here, and weering around at home. She's got a little mini project. A little mini, tiny little project. Gabrus is here and we are talking. No. Never apologize. I love you and I'm having fun.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That's all I give a fuck about. Okay. We're talking The Fate of the Furious from 2017. It's the eighth episode of our fourth season. We're working our way through the Fast and the Furious
Starting point is 00:03:26 franchise. Zoom, zoom. Ten episodes, nine movies, also Hobbs and Shaw. Okay, you guys, it's available on Amazon, Apple TV, Google Play, and Vudu. Guess what? There's going to be spoilers, so if you would like to not be spoiled, watch the
Starting point is 00:03:42 two-hour film. Two plus hours. Two hours and 15 fucking minutes. It's got white lady dreads, so you should be able to sit through it. Honestly, those dreads were shocking. Fully, I texted you. I was like, Charlize Theron with dreads? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:04:03 Was she tricked in this movie? She has to wear dreads and kiss Vin Diesel. I feel like she owed someone at Universal a huge favor or like she fucked over some exec at some point. They shot all of her shit, I think, in three days. They were like, we have one location. The rest of it is you are on an airplane. No, the airplane won't stop for gas.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Nothing. You're going to keep flying. I'm going to introduce our introduce our guests oh baby oh nicole is an actress improviser and writer who's appeared on grace and frankie a black lady sketch show and shrill she co-hosts the podcast the scroll down with marcella arguello i think i say her name correctly or i don't think you do i've been saying her name wrong for years, and she's going to fucking roast me for that. It's also on HeadGum. So welcome, Nicole!
Starting point is 00:04:50 Hey! Hello, guys. How are you? Hi, hi, hi. We are wonderful. Well, this is the Newcomers Podcast, a.k.a. the toy shop. Grab whatever you want to drive, Nicole.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Ooh, I love it. I want the orange shop. Grab whatever you want to drive. Nicole. Oh, I love it. I want the orange one. Put it down. Blanta. I couldn't believe what he said. He got that black beard. He got Black Santa. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Oh, yeah. Blanta. There was so much happening in that movie. There was a lot. There was so much. At one point, they said, we're going to need a bigger truck, which I thought was funny because I think it's Jaws where it's like, we're going to need a bigger boat. Also, they said, get in.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We're going to blow up some nukes or something. And I was like, that's funny. Like, get in, loser. We're going shopping. I was like, they're just borrowing from other movies at this point. Yeah, half the dialogue to me seemed like, oh, is that for real? Oh, that's for real. That's really the words they're saying.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Okay, that's what they're saying. I kept thinking that. I was like, is this what? I guess I don't watch a lot of action movies. I was like, wow, they're really going classic bullshit lines. Nicole, what's your history with the Fast and the Furious franchise? Where do you play with it? I think that I've only seen the first one.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So what was that, like 2009? When was it? They've been going forever. 2000. So I saw the first one years and years and years ago but yeah that's all I've never seen any of them and I always
Starting point is 00:06:08 I can never I can't even believe that they're still going like even when I was playing this I was like this is so fun look at Tyrese still having a career
Starting point is 00:06:14 Michelle Rodriguez still working like because they're all just doing they've just been doing that for years and I haven't seen it since the first one
Starting point is 00:06:21 so yeah this was a real re-entry they gotta be like 10 monthmonth-long shoots and shit because these people can't work on anything else. It's just like, where's Luda been? It's like, oh, he's shot 11 Fast and the Furious movies in Antarctica, and you're like, oh, okay. That's all they do.
Starting point is 00:06:39 That's so funny to watch this movie with no context of any other Fast. It's even funnier to watch it with only the context from the first movie because you're like I only recognize Dom and Letty
Starting point is 00:06:50 and it's right and I should mention I have no yeah and I have no like I usually I'll shit I watched that movie an hour ago
Starting point is 00:06:57 and I'm like what happened in that movie like I have no memory yeah well thanks for coming on the pod yeah thanks for having me I can't wait to
Starting point is 00:07:04 recap this with you guys. No, but I was like, what? I don't even remember what happened. I thought Dom and Letty were brother and sister, so I was shook. I was like, what is happening? No, they're lovers. They're lovers.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Dom and Mia are brother and sister. Yes, Mia is not in the movie because she's not in it. Sadly, Paul Walker passed away, and instead of having him die in the movie, they just said, we can't call Brian we promised we wouldn't bother them is what they say we said we wouldn't
Starting point is 00:07:30 involve Mia and Brian but then he names his kid Brian and it's like so what is this this is like you promised to never call your best fucking friend again but you're gonna name your kid after him I didn't know what first of all
Starting point is 00:07:45 i did not know that was paul walker's character because again i haven't seen his movies in so long when he said this is and he like it was like this big moment this is brian i was like what the fuck i was like that has to have some meaning because otherwise that's crazy especially for a vince kid with a brazilian woman for it to be like they they're so ethnically ambiguous. You're like, this is my son Brian. You're like, really? The whitest? Oh, Brian O'Connor. Okay. A tribute to a character who's alive
Starting point is 00:08:13 but the actor is dead. Also, I loved at the end where the cars magically shield Dom from this explosion but I was like, it's a donut. Like, the fire would reach in the middle of the cars but it doesn't it's also ice
Starting point is 00:08:29 it's ice melt the fucking ice they would drown but I love when Dom looks at Letty and he's like I got so much to tell you and then they cut to him at the end of the story and she's like wow that was a lot very casual all of a lot very casual
Starting point is 00:08:46 all of this was very casual even honestly even him agreeing to work with Cypher I was like she just showed him a picture on her phone and she was like yeah sure I guess I gotta go turn on family besides Hobbs and Shaw this is my least favorite in the franchise and I think I would be
Starting point is 00:09:01 so much better off with the movie if one person on his squad just goes, yo, you think Dom is in some sort of hostage situation? Like, he's a legendary hero. You think he, is there, can we not work our brains around? We've been labeled terrorists 10 times in this series. Can we not wrap our heads around that Dom is in some sort of bind? And it's like, like nah he's turned
Starting point is 00:09:25 it's like letty was like i don't letty kind of was like i don't trust this i don't think dom would do this right but she doesn't follow through in anything at one point she barely questioned it yeah she was like this doesn't seem right but she didn't really say like let's try to figure out what's going on here people like she kind of was like we can fight against him i don't think he didn't i don't think he wants to do this but i'll just go with you guys on this on this journey she was like fuck this mission my potato-headed husband kissed fucking a white woman with dreads in front of me they could rot in fucking he double hockey sticks right i couldn't believe when they kissed i I was like, Cypher,
Starting point is 00:10:06 how sensual. Also, you're off the plane. How crazy. Yeah, she got into a different location. That was her second location. So she worked four days. Two locations, two days on the plane. I think they're in the same warehouse studio. I think they just shot
Starting point is 00:10:21 One Direction. How do you like that? Next level concussion grenades cool line cypher showing off your fucking gear and merch and as you blow people so many of her lines i was like what nobody who wrote this knows what she's talking about get the dmt effort blah blah scoop scoop and you're like what the fuck are you talking about that's another major part of a problem with this movie is that cipher is kind of a whack bad guy in that like we faced
Starting point is 00:10:52 owen shaw we faced deckard shaw now a good guy just so you know jason statham was the main bad guy of the last movie and then his brother at the end owen is the bad guy from two movies ago? From six.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah. They just turn around. And I heard that, I read somewhere, I don't know if I was supposed to read anything, but I read somewhere that Jason Statham's character killed one of their family, right? Yeah, killed Han. But then now they're working with him. He just turned around and became a good guy with them. They're like, it's okay, he killed him, but we're over it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I forgot that he killed Han. Yeah. I fucking okay he killed him but like we're over it i forgot that he killed han yeah i fucking forgot he killed han and i'm like so why would dom want to work with the man who killed han you love han that's part of your team without saying too much uh when they reveal that shaw kills han is the third twist on han's death like the first twist is that it happens after movies five, six, and seven. And then the other twist is that it,
Starting point is 00:11:49 and then the twist that it's, there's still one more twist coming up in the series. So just get lost for the past nine. Oh boy. Final. I'm excited. I can't even promise. It's the final twist on Han's death.
Starting point is 00:12:02 To be honest, they can keep relitigating it for more. No, because we've got a two-parter coming out. We've got Fast 10, which will be in two parts, which I'm very excited about. Because it's going to be the last movie, right? Allegedly. And so then they're like, let's make it two movies so that we can keep doing this. They don't want to go home.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Vin Diesel famously says in every interview, we're not leaving anything off the table. Yeah. And it's just like he's literally just saying like whatever universal wants to pay me i'll do he's got it made i haven't heard from ben diesel in years but everybody else i mean he's huge to people that watch these movies he's probably making a ton of money he's thriving yeah i'd be like you want to make like 15 of these we just keep going we don't have to stop let's not and i gotta say in this movie dom teretto is no longer a human being he is a superhero unbreakable unkillable it's really
Starting point is 00:12:57 wild i was like i i could take a leap of you know imagination but this is fucking nuts right right right i will suspend disbelief but he doesn't he at one point carry a nuclear weapon with his like bare hands that what he's carrying when they're like breaking into the car and all that stuff's happening i was like what is going on they are very wild wild with these nuclear weapons like very loose with it yeah also who is cypher and why does cypher cypher no cypher is a whole organization not is Cypher? And why does Cypher... Cypher? No. Cypher's a whole organization. Not exactly. Cypher is one white woman
Starting point is 00:13:29 with a computer. I don't know. These white ladies with dreads, they cannot be trusted. We found that out during this movie. You know what I'm saying? She's either going to play you an entire album or get her hands on an EMP that'll shut down the world. She's going to pick up an acoustic guitar or a nuclear weapon of mass destruction.
Starting point is 00:13:46 One or the other. It's never in between. Yeah, exactly. Real quick, we got to get into the Toretto Gazetto. Oh, my God. Dame Helen Mirren and Vin Diesel dance in the rain after a Dolce & Gabbana fashion show. After a Dolce & Gabbana fashion show ahead of the venice film festival helen miran miran miran miran miran posted a moment she shared with her fast and furious co-star
Starting point is 00:14:12 vin diesel i danced in the rain with vin diesel miran captioned the photo on instagram during the london premiere of furious 7 in 2015 miran raved about the movie and expressed interest in appearing in the sequel. She reiterated her wish on the Graham Norton show, where he got around to Vin Diesel, who wrote a role for her. And the co-stars have been friends ever since. Vin Diesel, I would like to be in a Fast and the Furious movie, if this is how it works. Someone get it to Vin.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Right. All you got to do is just ask him. I mean, maybe if you're Dame Helen Mirren, it's not that hard. So he writes the movie too? She was already in another movie to be fair she was in six when she asked to be in seven or eight wait she was in six was she not in she was not in a previous one didn't we see her as shaw's mom no this might be the reveal i think this is the reveal because they barely used her and i was like what the fuck and then at the end i was like oh okay this this makes sense i gotta say i saw this pic this instagram posted of uh them dancing and i learned and understood shipping culture in that moment because i was like i was like i hoped they fucked
Starting point is 00:15:26 i hope diesel fucked helen mirren i would pay to see that i would also pay to see that they look so happy in the picture it looks like they did fuck yeah like they just got finished fucking put their clothes on in the limo and we're like let's dance in the fucking rain. Oh, I just saw a picture of her. They do look very cozy in these pictures of them. You see those? She's got that diesel fuel dripping down her leg. Oh!
Starting point is 00:15:58 Thanks, Nasty, but it's funny. She pulled up and said, fill her up. She said, fill her up. She said, the most important thing is family in between these five. She's like, don't worry. I'm old enough. We ain't making any more family. You can direct deposit.
Starting point is 00:16:15 That's right. The family line stops here. So I guess we should take a break before we get into the movie. So let's take a break before we get into the movie so let's take a break we're back so this was written by chris morgan who's written other ones and then f gary gray who i think is new to the franchise he's new to the franchise but legendary director director. He directed Set It Off, Friday, and then Straight Outta Compton. And then Straight Outta Compton, yeah. Which I think got him this movie.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Did he direct a TLC music video, or am I just making that up out of nowhere? Probably. He might have. No, he probably, yeah. No, he has. But that's when I saw his name, I was like, oh, the TLC guy. He directed Waterfalls. Yes, I thought he did.
Starting point is 00:17:03 He directed Waterfalls. See, that's how I know him. Yes, I know his catalog. Not just TLC music videos. The TLC music video. Waterfalls, baby. Such a good song. Also, Set It Off, one of my favorite fucking movies. I love Set It Off.
Starting point is 00:17:20 It's so fucking good. So this movie, I would say, would say starts the movies they're so strange there's always like an homage to like booties and race culture and dom being the fastest person on whatever land he's on so we start in havana yeah i you, the last like five movies start with him somewhere in Central America being what he believes to be like a local. And this one,
Starting point is 00:17:51 he's speaking the most Spanish and I'm here for it. And I don't speak Spanish so I'm like, is this good Spanish? Yeah. It's gringo Spanish for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:02 But I like, he's like, that's the Cuban spirit. How do you know? You've been here for three months. You've been traveling the world. How long has passed since the last movie, bro? What do you know about the Cuban spirit? He's pretty presumptuous. Like, even the way he
Starting point is 00:18:15 approaches Charlize Theron, he just walks up to her. She's obviously fixing her. He's like, no, you need some help over there? He's just like, he's, you know, he doesn't know it all. So she said she had been watching him. So I think this is a thing Dom does. He just sees people in need and he's you know he didn't know it all so she said she had been watching him so i think this is a thing dom does he just sees people in need he's like i can't help so they're on their honeymoon in havana his cousin is down there fernando he owes money to a local racer named raldo so dom challenges raldo to a race and raldo's like you gotta race in this nasty ass car so then dom rips the doors off rips everything but the engine really soaps it up leave the engine
Starting point is 00:18:53 puts the nitrous in there's that nitrous and they're like this is gonna be this isn't a car this is a bomb now it's cuban cuban oh no sorry letty says it she's like this is Cuban Nas and when I tell you I tee hee hee this bitch was laughing so hard at this opening scene I couldn't believe it so Raldo says
Starting point is 00:19:14 this isn't or what did he say it's not a it's not a quarter mile it's not or something it's a Cuban mile it's a Cuban mile
Starting point is 00:19:20 and I was like is that different is a Cuban mile different than a real mile that's where you drive the car from Havana to Miami somehow. You drive it on the water I think is the Cuban mile. You're smoking a cigar
Starting point is 00:19:31 the whole way? How hot is this dude by the way? Raldo is so fucking hot. Oh yeah Raldo's hot. I thought you were talking about Vin Diesel and I was like no I'm not getting it from him. No Vin Diesel's very hot. You leave him talking about Vin Diesel, and I was like, no, I'm not getting it from him. No, Vin Diesel's very hot. You leave him alone.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Vin Diesel just reminds me so much of a dad. I just feel like he's a dad character to me. Well, Roldo can get it. He is a daddy now. That's true. That's true. But yeah, so he beats Roldo by creating a rocket car that launches backwards,
Starting point is 00:20:02 and then he goes, look out, to a bunch of people and then the car goes up in the air and lands in the water and then dom like barrel rolls and then he's in like the spider-man pose and he looks around real scared and then a bunch of kids are around him and he's like oh okay they're kids he he seemed scared of these children he's always got to be on guard. He was like, they're coming to kill me because the motorcycle guys tried to kill him or whatever. Oh, yeah. This part is so crazy. If you saw any car race, no less a car on fire, would you be like celebrating in the highway?
Starting point is 00:20:37 He'll definitely stop before he gets to us. Yeah. He's driving backwards 85 miles an hour on fire on fire exactly it seems very honestly lose the race dom no he can't he can't because he's like it doesn't matter who's who what kind of car you're driving it's who's the drive that's what he says and he's the best driver in all the land if if he dies in this dumb race he's doing where he's driving a bomb backwards if he dies cypher kills everybody like the world ends are we done yep i don't get it but he lets raldo keep
Starting point is 00:21:18 his car because he says your respect is enough and then he leaves his car with his cousin Fernando, and then we never see Fernando again. Fernando's like, the Impala? Yeah, exactly. The Impala? Oh, wow. Oh, sick. Dominic Toretto, my Italian cousin from Los Angeles, visiting Cuba.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Very wild. That's where I was like, maybe I've missed a lot of things, because I really had no idea what was going on in the beginning. I was like, does this show take, does the movie take place in Cuba now? I was like, what is going on? Where are we? What's happening? I mean, it is definitely like a cold open that like doesn't aid the story.
Starting point is 00:21:56 No. The last few movies feature that. It's like, what has Dom been up to? He's like, he's the patriarch of a village in central america like always it's like oh he went to a latinx country and he's the mayor of guadalajara he's like oh he's just everyone's like they all speak english enough to communicate with him it makes it's such a power trip to become the ep of a movie and be like every time i my character, everybody in a different country loves him. They're all just celebrating him.
Starting point is 00:22:27 They're all just going to be standing in the streets celebrating me, telling me how wonderful I am. And then I win the race going backwards in a bomb. No big deal. So then,
Starting point is 00:22:37 he's just like walking along. Also, is Vin Diesel pigeon-footed? He walks funny in his boots. I never noticed. Or maybe he's bow legged. There's something going on with his legs, but I'm into it. So we meet Cypher because Cypher's like, oh, no, my car don't work.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And then he's like, oh, you're missing this. And she's like, I know. Here's a picture on my phone. And he's like, oh, God, oh, God, I got to leave the family. Got to leave my family. Got to totally turn on them immediately because I saw a picture. Immediately.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Don't you love when he comes out and he sees the woman having trouble with the car and turns around and Charlize Theron. You're like, gee, I wonder if she's a main character. Wild. She's possibly just a one scene lady with a broken car. I wish they would do that though. I wish they would kill more big actors in movies
Starting point is 00:23:24 so that you wouldn't know they were going to survive just kill them or make them a small character make her just somebody he passes by on the street yeah throw the law and order rule in it's face where it's like oh the most famous guest star is obviously the killer but if we do like Charlize is in this scene and then we never see her
Starting point is 00:23:40 again oh that would be so sick if she appeared two movies ago like if she was just like two movies ago and now she's like it's like oh we had that one random scene with charlize yeah that would take planning what happens is they re-watch the movies and go uh here's a plot hole that we can use to fuel our storyline in this next one yeah retcon so much shit i love it they're just like, okay, yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:05 and let's put Leo and Santos here. We haven't seen them in three movies. That was wild. That was so nuts. I was like, oh, okay. Knowing how the business works that if Vin keeps throwing
Starting point is 00:24:16 all his old cronies a day's pay for just being like, come to Spain, shoot this thing behind an ambulance. That's kind of sick in a way. They're like, great, yeah, I'll fucking do that. So then we see Hobbes is now coaching soccer.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah. Oh, and a lot, and the ladies love it. The ladies love it. The ladies love soccer. They're just staring at him. He makes these little girls do a Samoan, I'm not sure what it is. It's called a haka.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Oh, a haka. Yeah. It's kind of like a warrior dance. I don't want to say that. Okay, that's what it is. That's exactly what it is. It's called a haka. Oh, a haka. Yeah. It's kind of like a warrior dance. I don't want to say that. Okay, that's what it is. That's exactly what it is. The way I know about it is in Maori culture, like the New Zealand indigenous people.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I know this through rugby. Their rugby team famously does the haka before every match. And it's what the warring tribes used to do to each other to demonstrate their power and would frequently cause the surrender like a haka could like eliminate the fight because they're like these guys are so good at this it's scary so the news they're probably gonna kill us because look at this dance oh so that's why that little white girl was like i don't want to play yeah and it's it's pretty rad to see it in such
Starting point is 00:25:20 a mainstream movie and i love that sequence i but i do hate you know me i hate when they apply any sex appeal to the rock he's just i mean they try to apply it and then he was like no yeah just a lot of mom i was also like i know that he's muscular but he looks massive in these movies he doesn't look normal it doesn't look like if you are a mom of an eight-year-old, you'd be like, oh, yeah. Because as someone who watches a ton of action movies for his career and his fun, like every movie that features Arnold Schwarzenegger as like a
Starting point is 00:25:54 sex symbol, it's like, ooh, the hunky kindergarten teacher. It's like, this guy's a giant freak. He has huge tits. That's way too much to handle. It's a very specific type. That's a very specific type that not every mom is guaranteed to be into a huge body, a hairless bodybuilding alien. But all these moms are very into it and they're smacking their lips at him.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And then this whole conversation, I was like, I don't get it. I was like, what? I was like, what? Where did this detective just randomly come to the soccer game and show up and he's like, hey man, sorry. I gotta show you these briefs real quick he was like so you gotta go do this but it's not government sanctioned and it was just really confusing because he had been at what a detective of some sort and then they took it away so they're like listen this is like beyond police oh yeah because he became a
Starting point is 00:26:41 criminal in the last one no wait see they just vacillate rapidly between being terrorists and heroes. And they've now gotten into completely the gray area of shadow governments. So there's not even any explanation as to who's on whose side. It's just like, the bomb is bad? Stop the bomb, lady. So then Hobbes recruits Dom, Letty, Roman, Tiege, and Ramsey, the fucking family, the crews back together to retrieve a device from a military outpost in Berlin. And then Dom steals this thing and goes rogue.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And you're like, oh, it's because Cypher wants it. Forces Hobbes off the road. And Hobbes is like, you can. Hey, buddy, you can give this back to me. You chum-stuck-a-sum-bitch. Listen up, you sumbitch. You better put that nuclear device down right now before the candy ass told you so. The sumbitch really got me.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I was like, he's really hitting it hard. He's really saying sumbitch. He loves saying sumbitch. Once per movie, he does something from his wrestling days. Oh, is that this is yeah so it's like 30 years after the fact he's just dropping it in this movie well i like it because wrestlers are pretty loyal to their fans they absolutely they're the type of people not there but the the what i see from the rock and what i've seen from john cena is like they're
Starting point is 00:28:04 like oh I understand that the people, they made me. So I will give them what they want because why not? You made me. The Rock literally was called the people's champ. So he really believes that extra. And was this his first movie? Were these his first movies? Because that's maybe why
Starting point is 00:28:18 he worked it in? Has he been in it since the beginning? No, not since the beginning. He pops in in 5, six, seven, eight. Oh, okay, so he moves in the family. And then he gets Hobbs and Shaw. He gets a titular role in the next movie we'll be covering. If you're Toretto, do you not pull Letty aside right as you're doing the mission? Right.
Starting point is 00:28:37 And you're like, yo, look, sweetheart, I need you to not tell the rest of the team, but I'm going to do something sketchy, but I promise. Right, right. Because that's his thing it's like why do you not have one singular conversation with your girlfriend to say hey man I'm gonna look sketchy for a minute but trust me like it's gonna work out in the end like there's no conversation and that's my thing is like there's no conversation
Starting point is 00:28:57 like that and then there's no moment where anybody's like bro are you good why are you doing this all of a sudden also they can speak to each other through the cars. I was like, nobody's pressing a button. They're literally looking at each other through the window having conversations. I was like, that's not how that works.
Starting point is 00:29:15 No, they have like blanket Bluetooth available for everybody or some shit like that, right? There's like no explanation as they can all hear each other and have like a normal dialogue. It's not like go for Nicole. It's just like everyone's just talking free talking so then uh he steals the thing for cypher who's a cyber terrorist hobbs gets arrested and gets locked up in the same high security prison as deckard shaw what a coincidence right
Starting point is 00:29:42 next door right through the glass i see each other so then mr nobody comes back and i'm like still not clear on who the fuck he is he's like the he's the like representation of the shadow government like he's in charge of a cia adjacent organization that is hiring these people to do good missions but also that's so vague and weird and in real life an organization like that in america would be so fucking scummy and i mean it probably exists well what what about they reveal everyone's been handcuffed are we at this point where everyone's been handcuffed by scott eastwood no no so first they escape prison so mr nobody sets it up for for like hobbs and shaw to escape and hobbs is like no i want to get my
Starting point is 00:30:33 job back the way i want to eat candy apple but then he goes after shaw and i like to watch shaw kick around his little kids like those little prison slept on it was very funny to me I really like this scene because it's a kind of a fun it's a fun choreography of like Shaw is sort of quick and knows martial arts and
Starting point is 00:30:57 Hobbes is a monster who's insanely strong punching the cement and picking up that fucking bench and fucking doing arm rolls or whatever. And then when the full fight breaks out, he's getting fucking shot with the beanbags and shit
Starting point is 00:31:11 and just taking it in the fucking dome. He's like, rubber bullets, big mistake. And I was like, why is it a big mistake? Because you're indestructible? I'm like, that would actually hurt, sir.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I think it would, anybody, no matter how huge you are. Yeah, but he's so oiled up, they just slide off of him. If they shot him with two real bullets, would he go like, oh, real bullets? That was actually not a mistake. You're right. That will kill me.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Oh, no, I'm dead. Oops, oops. Now. I thought those were rubber. Fucking little nobody has them all handcuffed, but like wrong, because Letty gets out of them. Yeah. Let's talk about little uh nobody scott my god clint eastwood's son he sucks i remember seeing can i just totally not related to the
Starting point is 00:31:52 movie i remember seeing pictures of him back in the day and being like damn scott eastwood can get it but he looks like a little little guy like he doesn't i did not expect that i was expecting a little bit more of like a brooding intense figure he's a he's just a little nobody i think he's handsome he's a cutie he's a pocket a pocket hunk as a real pocket hunk but he has no charisma like it is so clear like i'm like paul walker had charisma and fucking buckets this dude has none yeah and it's really apparent when they bring him in that this movie needs Paul Walker in a way. Like, it needs a Paul Walker energy. I will say the highlight of Scott Eastwood being in this movie is when The Rock picks him up, breaks the handcuffs,
Starting point is 00:32:35 and picks him up and presses him into the wall. That's the highlight of Scott Eastwood's role in this movie. It was very funny. Yes. So then we find out Cypher hired his brother Owen to steal the nightshade device which is like whatever and then she also hired moses janky who is dijuman jiman hansu yeah i can't remember i ever had to say his name but he's so fucking hot to me yeah so hot to steal eye of
Starting point is 00:33:00 god which is like how convenient that she's behind the last two movies. We just didn't know it. Yeah. She wasn't in those movies. Okay. I'm see now I'm picking up here. I'm like, okay, she was not, she's just revealing herself in this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:14 And then they're labeling her as she's actually the main bad guy from the last two movies as well, which means that Shaw, uh, Deckard Shawaw um jason statham is not that bad of a guy because they need to start slowly pushing it as to why hobs and shaw is the next movie to come out so they're like he's just an employee yeah his brother is who's the worst one also and then they're gonna save dom's kid to be redeemed at the end of this movie. It is wild how much of this movie was in service of setting up Hobbs and Shaw. It was kind of wild. And I was like, I don't give a shit about Hobbs and Shaw. I do like Shaw, though.
Starting point is 00:33:53 I do like Shaw, too. And I thought I would like Hobbs and Shaw, but we'll talk about it next week. It's a different vibe. I think they had to start setting up Hobbs and Shaw because The Rock and Vin Diesel's head-butting Truly did not get along. Were not getting along at all at this point. Oh, they didn't get along in real life? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And the rumor I heard is that once they're outside in that moment when they square up, there were plans to have a fight there. To have a big fight there between the two of them to help set up Hobbs and Shaw, and Vin put the kibosh on them having the fight. Wow. That's the tea I've heard. That's the tea I've heard. I don't know if I'm speaking out of turn,
Starting point is 00:34:34 but I heard that Vin was like, lose that fight. That's too much attention for other people. And then that's when Universal was like, well, let's spin it off with, let's give The Rock his own movies. Wow. I love to hear this. I also read an article that said that i may have mentioned this
Starting point is 00:34:49 that nobody can like win or actually lose a fight like everyone just they take turns on who's like down and who's up but like nobody actually loses they have a lot of in their contract in vin and rock's contract after the movie, or like they had like a, they have to land an even amount of blows in the final cut. Like it can't be like, I obviously now that's just two men who are mentally broken, who are like, if my fans see me lose a fight in a movie, they won't like me anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:19 They're going to think I'm weak. It's just the bald, muscly dudes dilemma. I have to. Yo, Nicole, you called it. It's like any other actor who just subjugates their masculinity for a role, everyone sweats it. Artistically, everyone's like, whoa, Tom Cruise really went against type.
Starting point is 00:35:40 So-and-so really went against type. These guys are like, my character is never going to die. And you're like, oh, what are you, 14? Listen to some Brene Brown or something about vulnerability, okay? It's a good thing, honey. Prescribing Dom Toretto Brene Brown would be a really funny thing. What is this? You're going to like this, Dom.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Does she talk about family? So they track Dom and Cypher to their place moments before they attack the base they injure the team steal god's eye roman's like let's call brian and letty's like no we promised we would never call brian and mia again and everyone goes okay so then i'm dying i thought that he died in the in the series too like i didn't realize that they kept him alive and just said don't call him i thought they yeah that he would have died in the series too like i didn't realize that they kept him alive and just said don't call him i thought they yeah that he would have died in the series seems like like not an easy fix but like a good way to explain his nice tribute and yeah they can still memorialize him and no okay so don't call it so weird and wait wait wait till nine uh there's some there's some uh
Starting point is 00:36:39 fun brian referencing i can't get over Should we call Brian and Mia? No, we promised we'd leave them alone It's so fucking funny It's on par with Are we going to Tokyo? No, not yet So Nicole, Han dies In the second movie
Starting point is 00:37:00 Or no, the third movie In Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift But then is in 4, 5, 6 Dies, or no He third movie in a fast and furious tokyo drift but then is in four five six dies or no he goes to tokyo in seven so they spend like three or four movies with him going can't go to tokyo yet i will go to tokyo but not yet and it's so funny to me the third movie takes place after the seventh movie chronologically chronologically oh my god but technology the technology is so disparate because that movie came out in like 2008 it's perfect that's hilarious this sounds like me trying to figure out what order to watch star wars in because it always
Starting point is 00:37:36 tells you like chronologically or the number you know when it came out watch it this time it's like what is happening this sounds the same to me i. I feel like Nicole has some unique experience that can maybe help you with that. Four, five, six, one, two, three, seven, eight, nine. And then there's some sagas that are friends of the... Yeah, then you can go to Rogue One, Solo, and all that shit. And then the... What's...
Starting point is 00:38:02 Oh, Solo. That's what I was thinking of. Whatever. They're hard, and I don't get it and solo fucking sucks so he didn't hate solo i'm the only person who didn't hate it i thought it was like good i don't know but also i have no reverence to it it's like whatever to me um also i love when they were like when when Roman's like, use eye of God. And then everyone's like, you fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:38:29 That's too easy. Stupid. And he's like, what is just a suggestion? You know, that scene, that scene goes on to another fun thing too, of like, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:38 uh, what's her name? Ramsey's and Tej both doing like duo hacking and Kurt and Mr. Nobody being like, why don't you get a load of this? And then all and the way that they hack is like, what we can do is use the Scuzzy Bus backend. It's like good call. So all we have to do is send that.
Starting point is 00:38:53 It's like, let's do it. And they do it. And he goes told you they were the best. It's like, what did they just say to each other? That's an improv scene. They're just clicking. That's what I was just going to say is it's like it's one of those scenes where you just see something
Starting point is 00:39:07 like there were so many scenes like that where you're just seeing somebody clicking clicking clicking and you're like what are they doing? It doesn't even look
Starting point is 00:39:12 close to like something. I mean that's all Charlize Theron did with her black nail polish. That was the only business she had was clicking clicking clicking but oh wait
Starting point is 00:39:20 she does take Dom to see Elena that she has stolen. She captured Elena. Elena reveals that she got pregnant with Dom's son a couple months before he realized Letty was still alive. Yes. So, Nicole, to break this down for you. So she's pregnant in that movie.
Starting point is 00:39:42 movie where she shows up and learns that Dom is back with his wife, who he thought was dead, and is revealed that, who died in four, and is revealed at the end of five to be alive, comes back as a bad guy in six, joins the team at the end of six, and Dom gets back with her, and Dom's like, but in Brazil
Starting point is 00:39:57 I met this woman who's a widow, and I fucking I raw-dogged her, I'm sorry. Sorry about it. That's what happened. When it's revealed, it's like, what is more family than revealing that he has a kid? Actual family.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Also, I think what's so funny is it because now we're thinking when Cypher showed him the picture, she was showing him a picture of Elena and the baby. He didn't even say who that baby. He just was like, okay, let's go. Well, the baby was bald, so he's like, it's mine. It's gotta be mine.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Just cut to a shot of a baby with a Photoshop Vin Diesel head on it, like a huge potato head on a little baby body. Landing the same number of punches as a rock baby or something. Holding two wrenches.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Also, I love that before it's revealed that he has a kid he and letty are in bed and she's like do you want a kid and he's like and then like lifts the covers she's like not now and then when it's revealed that he has a kid i was like that is funny that they like set it up that they're like, maybe we do want a kid. Yep. And again, that is literally just writing so that when the kid is part of the plot, Letty is okay with raising the child. It's so complicated. Raising the child of a woman. Her husband fucked while she was having amnesia because they thought she was
Starting point is 00:41:24 dead and was a bad guy. How long was she even dead? Did they bury her? Did they see a body? She was dead for a whole movie. How long is that in real time for them? God knows. Two hours and 45 minutes minimum.
Starting point is 00:41:37 He's like, damn, I'm so sad. You want to look up with me, Brazilian lady? She's like, just grab a condom. He's like, no fucking way. A raw dog or nothing. He's like, no fucking way. He's like, no, let me dump you. But he almost fucked Gal Gadot or no Gal Gadot threw herself at him. And he's like, oh, yuck.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And then fucks this next lady. And it's wild. So, OK, later they're in New York City. Cypher sends Dom to retrieve a nuclear football held by the russian minister of defense and this is nuts so dom now has a bulletproof uh fireproof rocket car he looked yeah and he had that outfit he looked like a freaking superhero all of a sudden it felt like a superhero movie to me. But he looked like the Iron Giant. Yeah, he looked because he's wooden as fuck. He's iron as fuck. He's just literally like, he can barely
Starting point is 00:42:30 he doesn't move. He's not young. No. He is. He's massive and he wears bootcut jeans in like every scene. Sure does. So you can only do so much physically. I think he was probably 50 when that movie came out because I looked it up today because I was like, how old is this dude? He's 54 now. So he was probably 50 when they shot that. He I looked it up today because I was like how old is this dude he's 54 now so he was probably 50
Starting point is 00:42:46 when they shot that that's old for like I mean that's not old like Iron Man Robert Downey Jr. was like 63 in the last Avengers and has a kid or whatever get a fucking grip bro these guys are on so much HGH that they just like stay
Starting point is 00:43:02 young forever until they're like 75 and then their head is huge. Exactly. Something explodes. Yeah. Real quick, we have to take a break. And we're back this is a fun sequence because so dom is like my car broke and she's like you five minutes and he's like okay and somehow dom has orchestrated a way for her not to be able to he knows where cameras are apparently because he orchestrates a way that she cannot find a camera to get on him has a truck pull up we don't know this
Starting point is 00:43:50 magically a truck pulls up to like also you know uh hide him and he in five minutes was able to leave and have oh wait do we not we don't know yeah do we know that he goes and talks to helen we see it now yeah we see it now we see it now yeah yeah okay so he can go to a bar have a conversation with her and then make it back to his car and then have the other car move within five minutes sir i don't think so no no it's so it's so much moving parts that you don't even that we don't even care about like we don't know like we it hasn't been established what cypher will do if she catches him or anything so like there's no stakes for us it's like and we don't even know like what mission he's on it's like i'm going to
Starting point is 00:44:34 get a nuke hold on let me pull but he still gets the nuke and you're like okay so your plan is still kind of i love when they reveal that it's the hunk the cuban hunk who's helping him out in the truck. I loved it. That was a good little reveal. I was like, okay, so we did need that cold open. Because he got the respect. So he's like, I respect that man. I should go help him with a deadly mission.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Whatever country you need. Oh, you're able to track me down while no one else on your team knows what you're up to. You're able to track down a guy you met one day in Cuba and get me to fly to America and, and help you out. And I love when they show his face, a very memorable, handsome face.
Starting point is 00:45:14 They still show the flashback to Cuba to just be like, you remember this? It was two hours ago, but you can remember this. That's the thing. The movie's so long. It's like, you've probably forgotten. You've probably fallen asleep and movie's so long. It's like, you've probably forgotten.
Starting point is 00:45:25 You've probably fallen asleep and woken back up. Yeah. How does this happen? Because at this point he and Jason Statham are not working together yet. Right. Cause this is a scene where he asks like, mom, will you tell your son to work with me?
Starting point is 00:45:35 He asks mom. No, but then he shot Jason Statham. Oh wait, no, that was all stage. That's yeah. That's later.
Starting point is 00:45:42 That's stage. That's part of it. That was after. Yeah. So anyway, Cypher fucking knocks cars out of buildings somehow she can hack into every single car ever made no matter what year no matter what kind of car and she can hack into the computer of the car she makes them go backwards forwards fall out of buildings i love when they say shit like there's a ton of empty cars around aka we going to smash all these things and no one's going to die,
Starting point is 00:46:05 so you don't have to get upset. No one will die. It's fine. We're going to get them from parking garages. People are shopping. And then it's all explained away with her going, turn off all the safety mechanisms. On all of them?
Starting point is 00:46:18 And I was like, yeah. And what is a safety mechanism? What do you mean? Who cares? Now we have full control of falling cars. Is this now? What is the eye of God? Is that a software that they're using to do all those things?
Starting point is 00:46:31 Because they say that Cypher has control of it, right? Is that what she's using to make the cars do whatever she wants? No. Isn't that where she can see all the cameras? Yes. The God's eye is from seven. And that's what they rescue from Jimon Honsu and hate Ramsey, the hot woman from Game of Thrones.
Starting point is 00:46:51 She invented God's Eye. And they use it to try to look for Cypher. Cypher uses that looking for it to counter, find it, and then steal it in that moment. And it's like, what does she need the god's eye for i think she's a better hacker than ramsay she can't make the god's eye yeah she found vin diesel what else does she need to find so you're saying a black woman created something and then a white woman stole it a white woman with dreads so she's stealing a lot from the black women cultural and
Starting point is 00:47:22 digital appropriation that's right that's right she's takingation. That's right. That's right. She's taking it all. That's right. You don't like her. IP appropriation in addition to. That's right. Okay. So then the team intercepts Dom.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Letty gets that thing. She's like, you won't shoot me. And then the other guy comes and he's like, maybe I'll shoot her. But then Dom escapes. He kills Deckard. And I'm like, so within this like eight now eight minutes so he had that five now we're up to like eight minutes deckard's mom has called him already to be like play dead i had my cuppa play dead i think this heist is a little further along timeline like they maybe had
Starting point is 00:47:58 some time to set that up but i'm not positive like it seems like. Because it's still the same. Why only involve Shaw and not anyone that you're friends with for decades? The bad guy. Also, the way they get Dom out of the car is they put the ropes into his car or whatever. And then they're stretching the car out. But then, wait, does he throw the door off? Let's talk about this for a second, because they all shoot the harpoons into his car. Yes, harpoons.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And they're trying to pull him in a certain direction, but he's got the most horsepower. 5,000 horsepower. Dude, the dialogue in this scene is so upsetting. It's literally like, he's got to have 1,000 horsepower underneath that thing. Roman's like, 1,000. Try 3,000.
Starting point is 00:48:45 And then Deckard Shaw goes, more like 5,000. 5,000 horsepower underneath that thing. Roman's like, 1,000. Try 3,000. And then Decker Shaw goes, more like 5,000. 5,000. And then Tyrese is like, man, not the Bentley. Come on. You know, I should bring it. And who cares about the horsepower? Like, you guys are having the, yeah, more like 5,000. This is while they're, like, pulling on each other.
Starting point is 00:49:03 They're debating how much horsepower is in the car. It's so funny. It's also a little upsetting that Dom Toretto is our car guru. This is the eighth movie in a row where we expect him to be a car guru. But he doesn't have the coolest, most tricked out car until Cypher gives it to him. And it has like a jet turbine and 5,000 horsepower. And it's bulletproofproof and it can drive. It's got snow tires.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Snow tires. It can be on fire, drive through fire. It's wild. So then Cypher has Rhodes fucking kill Elena in front of him. This is so fucked up. And it's so obviously the writer is being like we gotta get elena out of the picture or else she's gotta be in every movie as the mother of the kid it's like let's just fucking kill the bitch it's like got it it's like headshot like it's so
Starting point is 00:49:54 that's so funny oh wait and i forgot he when he meets the baby puts his necklace on the thing and the necklace is a tracker yes and. And I was like, this necklace has a lot of heavy lifting to do in a lot of these movies. It's like, it gets a lot of play. It's like handed between characters in almost every movie. And we're supposed to, and he even calls it like
Starting point is 00:50:18 a shitty $10 piece of silver or something like that in one of the earlier movies. But like, Letty gave it to him, so it means so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's nostalgic. Does it have... Do we know it's a tracker in any of the other movies,
Starting point is 00:50:29 or is this the first time you realize? This is the very first time we see that it's tracking anything. A long time to make it important, but not important. It becomes more and more important each movie.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, it's... He's like, it's gotta be about family and my chain. Family and the family jewels so they infiltrate this russian military base and they use emp we don't know what this is to disable their security so dom can just drive on alone and i love how like every time they like see dom they're like uh maybe he'll have a team they're're like, no, he's going to be alone. And then he's alone.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And then the team arrives, shuts down the submarine. But then I'm like, why does Cypher want this submarine so bad? Okay, let's talk about this ice fucking planet concept. Yeah, where are they? So they're in Russia. And they get a classic Fast and the Furious setup of, like, that Russian base is supposed to be empty i believe everyone inside of it is now considered a terrorist or whatever and it's like so go kill everyone they're not just guys who are doing
Starting point is 00:51:34 environmental cleanup or anything like that feel free and they show up in like 10 different really cool cars pull into the parking lot and get out and enter the building it's like they sure do how come they never carpool they never carpool it's like we need all 10 cars the cars don't each do something one car gets hit then you can tell fucking uh tyrese to hold on to the door and then you'll pull him up out of the water and then he can fucking skate on the door. That's why. I think they think this ice chase is very cool, but I don't think any of the set pieces in this movie rise to the power.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I like the prison fight sequence, but that's more or less like a music video. It's not like anything interesting. And then I do like the cars falling and that sequence. But this feels like it goes on forever and it's like now they have missiles and they suck with them it's like it's just and also that's not cypher's bad guys that's like a different that's like the russian and it's like this is more complicated than it needs to be it's oh yeah so complicated and while that chase happens,
Starting point is 00:52:45 and I do think it's like rather lackluster. Like I think we've had more exciting ones. Yeah. I do like the sequence with Roman. He gets a fun sequence because they've been kind of setting him up as like the wuss or whatever the whole time. He gets that cool,
Starting point is 00:52:58 slides on the car door behind, gets up, gets a dude with the car door, ices three dudes real fast and gets like his little badass moment yeah because you think he's just like a goofy guy the whole time and then all of them he's like i'm done with this and he just shoots them all it's pretty he literally says i'm done with this yeah he murders people i feel like his agent requested like hey
Starting point is 00:53:18 tyrese wants one thing where he's a badass. Just one little thing where he's cool. He needs a moment. Because in six or seven, he chickens out on dropping out of the plane in the car. They even call it out in this movie. And he's like, whatever. I was having engine trouble. So then Deckard teams up with his brother, Owen, who's out of a coma. He was really not okay two movies ago or one movie ago. One? Jesus Christ. It doesn't even one jesus christ these it doesn't even
Starting point is 00:53:46 fucking matter no it doesn't so then they get on cypher's plane to rescue dom's son and owen takes control of the plane he's like in the cockpit deckard gets the baby shoots a bunch of people it's real cute they put earbuds on him or whatever and they're like he's gonna get crazy and then he's like that song mate they're playing a little alvin and the chipmunks christmas song it's cute where's that smile did you shit no it was that man i just killed of course we have the did you shit i do like i do like when he says were you about to shoot a baby you sick fuck i really i like jason Statham. I think he's great.
Starting point is 00:54:27 I don't think I had ever really paid much attention to him in other movies. I don't really watch a lot of action movies, but I liked him. I was like, oh, he's cute and funny and charming. He's got, he's got comedy chops because he knows how to play his hardcore type for comedy as well.
Starting point is 00:54:42 So he does, he does a very good job I think and just we'll talk about it next week on Hobbs and Shaw but it ain't the same without our boys and girls so then Cypher
Starting point is 00:54:57 fires an infrared missile oh wait so she fucking dips out she's like only one of us has a parachute bye bye and I was like bitch I would put your hair in a bun cause like what if the dreads Oh wait, so she fucking dips out. She's like, only one of us has a parachute. Tee hee hee, bye bye. And I was like, bitch, I would put your hair in a bun because what if the dreads get caught on something anyway? So then she fires a missile at Dom,
Starting point is 00:55:16 but it's a heat something. Everyone knows what it's called. A heat seeking missile. That's what I like about this movie too, is like Tej or The the rock or anyone they could just arbitrarily justify of like what they're firing heat seekers we're toast like they know way too much about everything it's like heat seekers are those cx-71s we better drive as soon as they're fired they knew what it was as soon as she let like let them go they were like oh we gotta go it's heat seekers yeah and then dom he's done this a lot he shoots the car up into the sky and he
Starting point is 00:55:50 hits the the fucking submarine and then the missile hits the sub and there's a huge explosion i don't give a fuck but i do like the logic that it's like it's a heat seeker so he he's like all right well i'll throw fire on the back of my car and make the missile chase me and then i will drive in a circle make the missile miss me once it'll turn and follow me and then i'll hit a ramp and i'll bring this missile directly into a submarine i mean and aren't there nuclear weapons on the submarine or somewhere i mean right yes we're not having like a huge explosion here is cypipher on the submarine in this sequence? I thought she was.
Starting point is 00:56:27 No, Cipher, she took a parachute out of her hair, her hair airplane, her airplane. Could have been a hair plane. Well, because she has a woman doing her locks whenever she's up there, she calls it her hair plane. It's my hair plane, bitches. Straight to my hair. I gotta say, they were the weirdest dreads I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:56:46 They were just like twisted. And I was like, how are they staying? Right. They're just like loosely twisted. Yeah, it's weird. In the deleted scene in the beginning of the movie, do you see it on the Blu-ray where Cipher's on vacation in the Bahamas and she gets someone at the beach to do that?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Really? No, no, I'm just saying. It does look like a white woman on spring break for sure if that was real i was like they should have left it in the movie was already an hour or two hours and 15 minutes plus another 10 so mr nobody comes to the penthouse in new york where they live now i guess they they're done with la because the house blew up to report that Cypher is still operating baby so I guess she'll be back in nine. Setting it up. Good guess.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But I don't need Cypher anymore. I want somebody else. Cypher was not interesting to me. Decker delivers Dom's son putting their differences aside with Dom and Hobbes. Dom names his son Brian and celebrates with his family. The amount of times family was uttered in this movie
Starting point is 00:57:46 Cypher asks the question at one point she's like do you know why I did this and he's like family no man there's other things to talk about yeah she literally says like stop saying family okay you can answer this question just not allowed to say family
Starting point is 00:58:01 and he's like but uh family? you just reminded me of like my favorite Vin Diesel moment in the movie and I forgot to question just not allowed to say family okay he's like but uh family what do i how do i talk you just reminded me of like my favorite vin diesel moment in the movie and i forgot to call it out when it's like we're setting up cypher like her thing is that she like knows psychology and logic or whatever she's like are you familiar with choice theory here's the thing you go to shoot me my guys will come in here with blahba and he goes even if i could get to you the two-person fail safe wouldn't work gun in her face screaming yeah what's the opposite of family? Alone. What's the opposite? Cause I'm alone.
Starting point is 00:58:45 He was very unhappy. He's like, this is not what I'm supposed to be. I'm supposed to be with my family. All of his screaming was so funny to me. Oh, it was a lot. His whole voice is just very funny to me.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It's kind of like a very low frog sound. It was cracking me up. Boy, oh boy. And then, uh, Hobbes declines the offer to go back to I don't know being whatever the fuck he was I was like okay I gotta say I this is I think maybe the worst one yeah it's not I did
Starting point is 00:59:15 not have as much fun as I wanted to have if you just go like the way I look at these movies sometimes is like set piece to set piece and it's like the the action sequences in five six and seven are better than the ones in eight yeah and it's just like that then you can't have like that's what you're going to see these movies for like i i think a lot of people because i think nine kind of course corrects a little bit i think people knew that eight was kind of lame like i think people i think people felt that yeah i was expecting a little bit more from it too because i was like you know i haven't seen it since the first one. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:59:45 this is going to be big, huge action sequences that are gonna be super fun. And it was kind of like, I mean, yeah. Well, the, are you inspired to watch nine at all?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Nicole, after having it out already, it's available to rent. Yeah. I would maybe watch it. I now I'm curious. I mean, I get curious now that I've seen it.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Is it good? I would watch four, five, six. Those are great. I really like four five and six yeah I like five six and seven uh that's like my that my five six is a good overlap but yeah I want to see them because I mean obviously they've been around for so long there has to be a reason for it so maybe I'll check them out not nine is fun nine is like more heightened than you could really imagine and i'm like i don't want to i don't even want to tell you some of the details but nine is nine is wild what's that one called
Starting point is 01:00:30 f9 is that what it's called like f9 okay but the people felt the same way we felt it has 67 on rotten tomatoes a critic from vanity fair wrote it's still a whirling good time but maybe the next film should pair things back, return to those simpler pleasures, cars and Coronas, the big California heat, a simple backyard cookout. I fucking agree with this critic.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I love the first, the first one is so good to me. And then I do love like the wildness of four, five and six, but like it would be nicer to just like not have them be like impenetrable FBI fucking people who don't die. That's what I was so confused about because I was, I don't remember the first one very well,
Starting point is 01:01:13 but I don't remember them being impenetrable FBI people. Like when they were talking about weapons of mass destruction, I'm like, what the hell happened in all these other movies that I haven't watched? Like where am I? In Fast 7, they say out loud, this isn't car stereos anymore. It's like, oh, right, the premise of one,
Starting point is 01:01:33 we stole car stereos. We've gotten really far from it. To answer your question about pushing further and further away from the first movie, the next line in what you're reading, it had a budget of 250 million and by its end grossed 1.2 billion dollars my god so they don't give a fuck that it's nothing like one money factory oh my god much money pay vin diesel whatever he wants. Pay all these actors whatever they want, because they the fucking movies are printing cash.
Starting point is 01:02:11 When the trailer was first released, it ranked as the biggest debut to date with 140 million online views in the first 24 hours. Oh, my God. Also, this is the most cars being wrecked in a movie uh topping fast five's vault sequence and fast and furious six's tank sequence it felt like it when all those cars were dropping out of the building i was like damn like it's always such they're so nice too and they just destroy them all i guess that's the point but also does sc Scott Eastwick come back in the next one? I don't. I think he does not.
Starting point is 01:02:47 No, I'm pretty sure he's not. And if he is, he's not integral in any way. He's just like. He's very handsome, but like fully like. Poor little guy. Like meh. I was so meh with his performance. And again, just to be the white guy on the podcast saying like,
Starting point is 01:03:03 also the crew doesn't need just another handsome white guy. It's like, it's evolved past that. Like, don't try to fill Paul Walker. Just keep adding rappers and DJs and shit. Like that's like, those are the fun people to put in,
Starting point is 01:03:17 like bring back some of those other, I don't give a fuck about Scott Eastwood. Like the movie, they're bigger than that now where it's like, unless that name that you want to drop in is like Mark Wahlberg or something, then go right ahead. No, I don't want Mark Wahlberg to touch this franchise.
Starting point is 01:03:34 No, he would bring such... He can't. He's too wooden. He's too close to Vin. He's wooden. He's too close to Vin. Yeah, he would step on Vin's shit. That's hilarious. We's too close to Vin. Yeah, he would step on Vin's shit. That's hilarious. We've come to the end. Oh, thank God. You got to get out of here.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I'm trying to get you out of here. Nicole, do you have anything you want to plug? Yeah, you can. I think we already plugged it a little bit, but listen to The Scroll Down. It's another HeadGum podcast. You can find it anywhere you get your podcasts. I'm on a cartoon called Jellystone
Starting point is 01:04:05 on HBO Max and otherwise just follow me on Twitter and Instagram I love it oh hell yeah hell yeah dude you'll be tagged
Starting point is 01:04:14 in the tweets and Instagrams about this episode so fuck yeah we love it and you co-host the Scroll Down with Marcella Arguello
Starting point is 01:04:23 right? yes Marcella Arguello yes marcella argueo yes argueo argueo just curious i thought we nailed it really have just been you got it and i didn't nail it i failed it anyway raiden Raiden so blur a flirt please talk about Vin's tiny pointy nips I've never noticed Nicole's Dom impression is the best thank you Gabrus knows stuff
Starting point is 01:04:53 it's a really fun time okay cool refreshing it's refreshing to hear oh this is from Jesse Inferno it's refreshing to hear that takes a people watching a fan beloved franchise for the first time as someone who watched most of the fast and furious movies in real time the way nicole and gabriel's break them down make me want to go back and take the ride all over again keep it up hope you guys do the mcu we already did this the medea cinematic universe Universe. So, done.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Kurt. So, keep listening. Keep writing reviews. Next week, we're back with Hobbs and Shaw. See you then. That's hilarious. Bye-bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Bye. Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.

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