Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Fate Of The Furious (w/ Niccole Thurman)
Episode Date: September 14, 2021Niccole Thurman (Grace and Frankie, Jellystone) joins Nicole and Gabrus to discuss the eighth film in the Fast & Furious Franchise—The Fate of the Furious (2017). Follow Niccole on Twit...ter and Instagram and check out The Scroll Down on Headgum. Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what franchise they should check out next. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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All right team, listen up. This crew is about family, but the game has changed now.
Dominic Toretto just went rogue. You're gonna turn your back on family? I know it looks bad.
Don't give up on him so easy.
You've only got one chance
to make this family whole again.
Don't do this, Don.
You ready?
One thing I can guarantee,
no one's ready for this.
She's the very definition of high-tech terrorism.
There's thousands of cars in this city and now they're all mine.
Now I know what it feels like to be every cop ever chasing us.
London, Abu Dhabi, Cuba.
Our paths have crossed before, Don.
You just didn't know it.
I think I need to remind you why you chose to be here.
I got no choice!
If you're gonna catch Dom, you're gonna need a little help.
You wanna tell me why you just put me in a room with this teen crumpet-seating criminal?
You know, I think that tight t-shirt cutting off the circulation your brain you should get bigger slice
You guys are gonna work together. Love to
Have been waiting for this we got a tank
Now it's my turn
Baby We got a tank. Now it's my turn. Boom, baby!
I don't know why you're doing this, but I know one thing.
You love me.
Fire!
Hang on to your ass!
Dump! Oh, boy. Okay. Boop, boop, boop, boop. It's newcomers.
Do-do-ba-da-da.
Wow, boy.
Okay.
Lauren's not here.
Testing out the new theme song.
This new theme song, you know, I'm always creating.
That's who I am.
Okay.
So, Lauren, she ain't here.
She's fucking doing some shit, tinkering around at home.
She's got a little mini project.
A little mini, tiny little project.
Gabrus is here, and weering around at home. She's got a little mini project. A little mini, tiny little project. Gabrus is here
and we are talking.
No.
Never apologize.
I love you
and I'm having fun.
That's all I give a fuck about.
Okay.
We're talking
The Fate of the Furious
from 2017.
It's the eighth episode
of our fourth season.
We're working our way through the Fast and the Furious
franchise. Zoom, zoom. Ten episodes,
nine movies, also Hobbs and Shaw.
Okay, you guys, it's available
on Amazon, Apple
TV, Google Play, and
Vudu. Guess what? There's going to be spoilers,
so if you would like
to not be spoiled, watch the
two-hour film.
Two plus hours.
Two hours and 15 fucking minutes.
It's got white lady dreads, so you should be able to sit through it.
Honestly, those dreads were shocking.
Fully, I texted you.
I was like, Charlize Theron with dreads?
What's going on?
Was she tricked in this movie?
She has to wear dreads and kiss Vin Diesel.
I feel like she owed someone at Universal a huge favor
or like she fucked over some exec at some point.
They shot all of her shit, I think, in three days.
They were like, we have one location.
The rest of it is you are on an airplane.
No, the airplane won't stop for gas.
Nothing.
You're going to keep flying. I'm going to introduce our introduce our guests oh baby oh nicole is an actress improviser and writer who's
appeared on grace and frankie a black lady sketch show and shrill she co-hosts the podcast the
scroll down with marcella arguello i think i say her name correctly or i don't think you do
i've been saying her name wrong for years,
and she's going to fucking roast me for that.
It's also on HeadGum.
So welcome, Nicole!
Hey!
Hello, guys.
How are you?
Hi, hi, hi.
We are wonderful.
Well, this is the Newcomers Podcast,
a.k.a. the toy shop.
Grab whatever you want to drive, Nicole.
Ooh, I love it. I want the orange shop. Grab whatever you want to drive. Nicole. Oh, I love it.
I want the orange one.
Put it down.
Blanta.
I couldn't believe what he said.
He got that black beard.
He got Black Santa.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
Blanta.
There was so much happening in that movie.
There was a lot.
There was so much.
At one point, they said, we're going to need a bigger truck, which I thought was funny
because I think it's Jaws where it's like, we're going to need a bigger boat.
Also, they said, get in.
We're going to blow up some nukes or something.
And I was like, that's funny.
Like, get in, loser.
We're going shopping.
I was like, they're just borrowing from other movies at this point.
Yeah, half the dialogue to me seemed like, oh, is that for real?
Oh, that's for real.
That's really the words they're saying.
Okay, that's what they're saying.
I kept thinking that.
I was like, is this what?
I guess I don't watch a lot of action movies.
I was like, wow, they're really going classic bullshit lines.
Nicole, what's your history with the Fast and the Furious franchise?
Where do you play with it?
I think that I've only seen the first one.
So what was that, like 2009?
When was it?
They've been going forever.
2000.
So I saw the first one years and years and years ago
but yeah that's all
I've never seen any of them
and I always
I can never
I can't even believe
that they're still going
like even when I was playing this
I was like
this is so fun
look at Tyrese
still having a career
Michelle Rodriguez
still working
like because they're all
just doing
they've just been doing that
for years
and I haven't seen it
since the first one
so yeah
this was a real re-entry
they gotta be like 10 monthmonth-long shoots and shit
because these people can't work on anything else.
It's just like, where's Luda been?
It's like, oh, he's shot 11 Fast and the Furious movies
in Antarctica, and you're like, oh, okay.
That's all they do.
That's so funny to watch this movie
with no context of any other Fast.
It's even funnier to watch it with
only the context
from the first movie
because you're like
I only recognize
Dom and Letty
and it's right
and I should mention
I have no
yeah and I have no
like I usually
I'll shit
I watched that movie
an hour ago
and I'm like
what happened in that movie
like I have no memory
yeah
well thanks for coming
on the pod
yeah thanks for having me
I can't wait to
recap this with you guys.
No, but I was like, what?
I don't even remember what happened.
I thought Dom and Letty were brother and sister,
so I was shook.
I was like, what is happening?
No, they're lovers.
They're lovers.
Dom and Mia are brother and sister.
Yes, Mia is not in the movie because
she's not in it.
Sadly, Paul Walker passed away,
and instead of having him die in the movie,
they just said, we can't call Brian
we promised we wouldn't bother them
is what they say we said we wouldn't
involve Mia and Brian but then he
names his kid Brian and it's
like so what is
this this is like you
promised to never call your best fucking
friend again but you're gonna name your kid
after him
I didn't know what first of all
i did not know that was paul walker's character because again i haven't seen his movies in so long
when he said this is and he like it was like this big moment this is brian i was like what the fuck
i was like that has to have some meaning because otherwise that's crazy especially for a vince kid
with a brazilian woman for it to be like they they're so ethnically ambiguous. You're like, this is my son
Brian.
You're like, really? The whitest? Oh, Brian
O'Connor. Okay. A tribute
to a character who's alive
but the actor is dead.
Also, I loved
at the end where the cars
magically shield Dom from this explosion
but I was like, it's a donut.
Like, the fire would reach
in the middle of the cars but it doesn't
it's also ice
it's ice
melt the fucking ice they would drown
but I love when
Dom looks at Letty and he's like I got so
much to tell you and then
they cut to him at the end of the story
and she's like wow that was a lot
very casual all of a lot very casual
all of this was very casual even honestly
even him agreeing to work with Cypher I was like
she just showed him a picture on her phone and she was like
yeah sure I guess I gotta go
turn on family
besides Hobbs and Shaw this is my
least favorite in the franchise
and I think I would be
so much better off with the movie
if one person on his squad just goes,
yo, you think Dom is in some sort of hostage situation?
Like, he's a legendary hero.
You think he, is there, can we not work our brains around?
We've been labeled terrorists 10 times in this series.
Can we not wrap our heads around that Dom is in some sort of bind?
And it's like, like nah he's turned
it's like letty was like i don't letty kind of was like i don't trust this i don't think dom
would do this right but she doesn't follow through in anything at one point she barely
questioned it yeah she was like this doesn't seem right but she didn't really say like let's try to
figure out what's going on here people like she kind of was like we can fight against him i don't
think he didn't i don't think he wants to do this but i'll just go with you guys on this
on this journey she was like fuck this mission my potato-headed husband kissed fucking a white
woman with dreads in front of me they could rot in fucking he double hockey sticks right
i couldn't believe when they kissed i I was like, Cypher,
how sensual.
Also, you're off the plane. How
crazy. Yeah, she got into a different
location. That was her second location.
So she worked four days. Two locations,
two days on the plane. I think they're
in the same warehouse
studio. I think they just shot
One Direction. How do you like
that? Next level concussion
grenades cool line cypher showing off your fucking gear and merch and as you blow people so many of
her lines i was like what nobody who wrote this knows what she's talking about get the dmt effort
blah blah scoop scoop and you're like what the fuck are you talking about that's another
major part of a problem with this
movie is that cipher is kind of a whack
bad guy in that like we faced
owen shaw we faced deckard
shaw now a good guy just so you know
jason statham was the main bad guy
of the last movie and then his
brother at the end
owen is the bad guy from two
movies ago?
From six.
Yeah.
They just turn around.
And I heard that, I read somewhere, I don't know if I was supposed to read anything, but
I read somewhere that Jason Statham's character killed one of their family, right?
Yeah, killed Han.
But then now they're working with him.
He just turned around and became a good guy with them.
They're like, it's okay, he killed him, but we're over it.
I forgot that he killed Han.
Yeah. I fucking okay he killed him but like we're over it i forgot that he killed han yeah i fucking
forgot he killed han and i'm like so why would dom want to work with the man who killed han you love
han that's part of your team without saying too much uh when they reveal that shaw kills han
is the third twist on han's death like the first twist is that it happens after movies five,
six,
and seven.
And then the other twist is that it,
and then the twist that it's,
there's still one more twist coming up in the series.
So just get lost for the past nine.
Oh boy.
Final.
I'm excited.
I can't even promise.
It's the final twist on Han's death.
To be honest,
they can keep relitigating it for more.
No, because we've got a two-parter coming out.
We've got Fast 10, which will be in two parts, which I'm very excited about.
Because it's going to be the last movie, right?
Allegedly.
And so then they're like, let's make it two movies so that we can keep doing this.
They don't want to go home.
Vin Diesel famously says in every interview, we're not leaving anything off the table.
Yeah.
And it's just like he's literally
just saying like whatever universal wants to pay me i'll do he's got it made i haven't heard from
ben diesel in years but everybody else i mean he's huge to people that watch these movies he's
probably making a ton of money he's thriving yeah i'd be like you want to make like 15 of these we
just keep going we don't have to stop let's not and i gotta say in this movie dom
teretto is no longer a human being he is a superhero unbreakable unkillable it's really
wild i was like i i could take a leap of you know imagination but this is fucking nuts right right
right i will suspend disbelief but he
doesn't he at one point carry a nuclear weapon with his like bare hands that what he's carrying
when they're like breaking into the car and all that stuff's happening i was like what is going
on they are very wild wild with these nuclear weapons like very loose with it yeah also who
is cypher and why does cypher cypher no cypher is a whole organization not is Cypher? And why does Cypher... Cypher? No. Cypher's a whole organization.
Not exactly.
Cypher is one white woman
with a computer.
I don't know. These white ladies with dreads, they cannot be trusted.
We found that out during this movie.
You know what I'm saying?
She's either going to play you an entire album or
get her hands on an EMP
that'll shut down the world.
She's going to pick up an acoustic guitar or a nuclear weapon of mass destruction.
One or the other.
It's never in between.
Yeah, exactly.
Real quick, we got to get into the Toretto Gazetto.
Oh, my God.
Dame Helen Mirren and Vin Diesel dance in the rain after a Dolce & Gabbana fashion show.
After a Dolce & Gabbana fashion show ahead of the venice film festival helen
miran miran miran miran miran posted a moment she shared with her fast and furious co-star
vin diesel i danced in the rain with vin diesel miran captioned the photo on instagram during
the london premiere of furious 7 in 2015 miran raved about the movie and expressed interest
in appearing in the sequel.
She reiterated her wish on the Graham Norton show,
where he got around to Vin Diesel, who wrote a role for her.
And the co-stars have been friends ever since.
Vin Diesel, I would like to be in a Fast and the Furious movie, if this is how it works.
Someone get it to Vin.
Right. All you got to do is just ask him.
I mean, maybe if you're Dame Helen Mirren, it's not that hard.
So he writes the movie too? She was already in another movie to be fair she was in six when she asked to be in seven or eight wait she was in six was she not in she was not in a previous one didn't we
see her as shaw's mom no this might be the reveal i think this is the reveal because
they barely used her and i was
like what the fuck and then at the end i was like oh okay this this makes sense i gotta say i saw
this pic this instagram posted of uh them dancing and i learned and understood shipping culture in
that moment because i was like i was like i hoped they fucked
i hope diesel fucked helen mirren i would pay to see that i would also pay to see that they look
so happy in the picture it looks like they did fuck yeah like they just got finished fucking
put their clothes on in the limo and we're like let's dance in the fucking rain. Oh, I just saw a picture of her.
They do look very cozy
in these pictures of them. You see those?
She's got that diesel fuel
dripping down her leg.
Oh!
Thanks, Nasty, but it's funny.
She pulled up and said, fill her up.
She said, fill her up.
She said, the most important thing is family in between these five.
She's like, don't worry.
I'm old enough.
We ain't making any more family.
You can direct deposit.
That's right.
The family line stops here.
So I guess we should take a break before we get into the movie.
So let's take a break before we get into the movie so let's take a break we're back so this was written
by chris morgan who's written other ones and then f gary gray who i think is new to the franchise
he's new to the franchise but legendary director director. He directed Set It Off, Friday, and then Straight Outta Compton.
And then Straight Outta Compton, yeah.
Which I think got him this movie.
Did he direct a TLC music video, or am I just making that up out of nowhere?
Probably.
He might have.
No, he probably, yeah.
No, he has.
But that's when I saw his name, I was like, oh, the TLC guy.
He directed Waterfalls.
Yes, I thought he did.
He directed Waterfalls.
See, that's how I know him. Yes, I know his catalog.
Not just TLC music videos.
The TLC music video.
Waterfalls, baby.
Such a good song.
Also, Set It Off, one of my favorite fucking movies.
I love Set It Off.
It's so fucking good.
So this movie, I would say, would say starts the movies they're so strange
there's always like an homage to like booties and race culture and dom being the fastest person
on whatever land he's on so we start in havana yeah i you, the last like five movies start with him
somewhere in Central America
being what he believes
to be like a local.
And this one,
he's speaking the most Spanish
and I'm here for it.
And I don't speak Spanish
so I'm like,
is this good Spanish?
Yeah.
It's gringo Spanish for sure.
Yeah.
But I like,
he's like,
that's the Cuban spirit.
How do you know? You've been here for three
months. You've been traveling the world.
How long has passed since the last movie, bro?
What do you know about the Cuban spirit?
He's pretty presumptuous. Like, even the way he
approaches Charlize Theron, he just walks up to her.
She's obviously fixing her. He's like, no, you need some help
over there? He's just like, he's, you know, he doesn't know
it all. So she said she had been
watching him. So I think this is a thing Dom does. He just sees people in need and he's you know he didn't know it all so she said she had been watching him so i think this is a thing dom does he just sees people in need he's like i can't help
so they're on their honeymoon in havana his cousin is down there fernando he owes money to a local
racer named raldo so dom challenges raldo to a race and raldo's like you gotta race in this nasty ass car so then dom
rips the doors off rips everything but the engine really soaps it up leave the engine
puts the nitrous in there's that nitrous and they're like this is gonna be this isn't a car
this is a bomb now it's cuban cuban oh no sorry letty says it she's like this is Cuban Nas and when I tell you
I tee hee hee
this bitch was laughing
so hard
at this opening scene
I couldn't believe it
so Raldo says
this isn't
or what did he say
it's not a
it's not a quarter mile
it's not
or something
it's a Cuban mile
it's a Cuban mile
and I was like
is that different
is a Cuban mile
different than a real mile
that's where you drive the car
from Havana to Miami
somehow. You drive it on the water
I think is the Cuban mile. You're smoking a cigar
the whole way?
How
hot is this dude by the way?
Raldo is so fucking hot.
Oh yeah Raldo's hot. I thought you were talking about Vin Diesel
and I was like no I'm not getting it from him.
No Vin Diesel's very hot. You leave him talking about Vin Diesel, and I was like, no, I'm not getting it from him. No, Vin Diesel's very hot.
You leave him alone.
Vin Diesel just reminds me so much of a dad.
I just feel like he's a dad character to me.
Well, Roldo can get it.
He is a daddy now.
That's true.
That's true.
But yeah, so he beats Roldo by creating a rocket car
that launches backwards,
and then he goes, look out, to a bunch of people and then the
car goes up in the air and lands in the water and then dom like barrel rolls and then he's in like
the spider-man pose and he looks around real scared and then a bunch of kids are around him
and he's like oh okay they're kids he he seemed scared of these children he's always got to be
on guard.
He was like, they're coming to kill me because the motorcycle guys tried to kill him or whatever.
Oh, yeah. This part is so crazy.
If you saw any car race, no less a car on fire, would you be like celebrating in the highway?
He'll definitely stop before he gets to us.
Yeah.
He's driving backwards 85 miles an hour on fire on fire
exactly it seems very honestly lose the race dom
no he can't he can't because he's like it doesn't matter who's who what kind of car you're driving
it's who's the drive that's what he says and he's the best driver in all the land
if if he dies in this dumb race he's doing where he's driving a bomb backwards if he dies
cypher kills everybody like the world ends are we done yep i don't get it but he lets raldo keep
his car because he says your respect is enough and then he leaves his car with his cousin Fernando, and then we never see Fernando again.
Fernando's like, the Impala?
Yeah, exactly.
The Impala?
Oh, wow.
Oh, sick.
Dominic Toretto, my Italian cousin from Los Angeles,
visiting Cuba.
Very wild.
That's where I was like, maybe I've missed a lot of things,
because I really had no idea what was going on in the beginning.
I was like, does this show take, does the movie take place in Cuba now?
I was like, what is going on?
Where are we?
What's happening?
I mean, it is definitely like a cold open that like doesn't aid the story.
No.
The last few movies feature that.
It's like, what has Dom been up to?
He's like, he's the patriarch of a village in central america like always it's like oh he went
to a latinx country and he's the mayor of guadalajara he's like oh he's just everyone's like
they all speak english enough to communicate with him it makes it's such a power trip to become the
ep of a movie and be like every time i my character, everybody in a different country loves him.
They're all just celebrating him.
They're all just going to be
standing in the streets
celebrating me,
telling me how wonderful I am.
And then I win the race
going backwards in a bomb.
No big deal.
So then,
he's just like walking along.
Also,
is Vin Diesel pigeon-footed?
He walks funny in his boots.
I never noticed.
Or maybe he's bow legged.
There's something going on with his legs, but I'm into it.
So we meet Cypher because Cypher's like, oh, no, my car don't work.
And then he's like, oh, you're missing this.
And she's like, I know.
Here's a picture on my phone.
And he's like, oh, God, oh, God, I got to leave the family.
Got to leave my family.
Got to totally turn on them immediately
because I saw a picture.
Immediately.
Don't you love when he comes out
and he sees the woman having trouble with the car
and turns around and Charlize Theron.
You're like, gee, I wonder if she's a main character.
Wild.
She's possibly just a one scene lady with a broken car.
I wish they would do that though.
I wish they would kill more big actors in movies
so that you wouldn't know they were going to survive
just kill them or make them a small character
make her just somebody he passes by on the street
yeah throw the law and order rule
in it's face where it's like
oh the most famous guest star is obviously
the killer but if we do like
Charlize is in this scene and then we never see her
again oh that would be
so sick if she appeared two movies
ago like if she was just
like two movies ago and now she's like it's like oh we had that one random scene with charlize
yeah that would take planning what happens is they re-watch the movies and go uh here's a plot
hole that we can use to fuel our storyline in this next one yeah retcon so much shit i love it
they're just like,
okay, yeah,
and let's put Leo and Santos here.
We haven't seen them
in three movies.
That was wild.
That was so nuts.
I was like, oh, okay.
Knowing how the business works
that if Vin keeps throwing
all his old cronies a day's pay
for just being like,
come to Spain,
shoot this thing behind an ambulance.
That's kind of sick in a way.
They're like, great,
yeah, I'll fucking do that.
So then we see Hobbes is now coaching soccer.
Yeah.
Oh, and a lot, and the ladies love it.
The ladies love it.
The ladies love soccer.
They're just staring at him.
He makes these little girls do a Samoan,
I'm not sure what it is.
It's called a haka.
Oh, a haka.
Yeah.
It's kind of like a warrior dance. I don't want to say that. Okay, that's what it is. That's exactly what it is. It's called a haka. Oh, a haka. Yeah. It's kind of like a warrior dance.
I don't want to say that.
Okay, that's what it is.
That's exactly what it is.
The way I know about it is in Maori culture,
like the New Zealand indigenous people.
I know this through rugby.
Their rugby team famously does the haka before every match.
And it's what the warring tribes used to do to each other
to demonstrate their power
and would frequently cause the surrender
like a haka could like eliminate the fight because they're like these guys are so good at this it's
scary so the news they're probably gonna kill us because look at this dance oh so that's why that
little white girl was like i don't want to play yeah and it's it's pretty rad to see it in such
a mainstream movie and i love that sequence i but i do hate you know me i hate when
they apply any sex appeal to the rock he's just i mean they try to apply it and then he was like
no yeah just a lot of mom i was also like i know that he's muscular but he looks massive in these
movies he doesn't look normal it doesn't look like if you are a mom of an eight-year-old, you'd be like, oh,
yeah. Because as someone who watches
a ton of action movies for his career
and his fun, like every movie
that features Arnold Schwarzenegger as like a
sex symbol, it's like, ooh, the hunky
kindergarten teacher. It's like, this guy's
a giant freak. He has
huge tits. That's way too much to handle.
It's a very specific type.
That's a very specific type that not every mom is guaranteed to be into a huge body,
a hairless bodybuilding alien.
But all these moms are very into it and they're smacking their lips at him.
And then this whole conversation, I was like, I don't get it.
I was like, what?
I was like, what?
Where did this detective just randomly come to the soccer game and show up and he's like,
hey man, sorry.
I gotta show you these briefs real quick he was like so you gotta go do this but it's not government sanctioned
and it was just really confusing because he had been at what a detective of some sort and then
they took it away so they're like listen this is like beyond police oh yeah because he became a
criminal in the last one no wait see they just vacillate rapidly between being terrorists and heroes.
And they've now gotten into completely the gray area of shadow governments.
So there's not even any explanation as to who's on whose side.
It's just like, the bomb is bad?
Stop the bomb, lady.
So then Hobbes recruits Dom, Letty, Roman, Tiege, and Ramsey, the fucking family, the crews back together
to retrieve a device from a military outpost in Berlin.
And then Dom steals this thing and goes rogue.
And you're like, oh, it's because Cypher wants it.
Forces Hobbes off the road.
And Hobbes is like, you can.
Hey, buddy, you can give this back to me.
You chum-stuck-a-sum-bitch.
Listen up, you sumbitch.
You better put that nuclear device down right now before the candy ass told you so.
The sumbitch really got me.
I was like, he's really hitting it hard.
He's really saying sumbitch.
He loves saying sumbitch.
Once per movie, he does something from his wrestling days.
Oh, is that this is
yeah so it's like 30 years after the fact he's just dropping it in this movie well i like it
because wrestlers are pretty loyal to their fans they absolutely they're the type of people not
there but the the what i see from the rock and what i've seen from john cena is like they're
like oh I understand that
the people, they made me.
So I will give them what they want because
why not? You made me.
The Rock literally was called the people's champ.
So he really believes that extra.
And was this his first movie?
Were these his first movies? Because that's maybe why
he worked it in? Has he been in it
since the beginning? No, not since the beginning.
He pops in in 5, six, seven, eight.
Oh, okay, so he moves in the family.
And then he gets Hobbs and Shaw.
He gets a titular role in the next movie we'll be covering.
If you're Toretto, do you not pull Letty aside right as you're doing the mission?
Right.
And you're like, yo, look, sweetheart, I need you to not tell the rest of the team,
but I'm going to do something sketchy, but I promise.
Right, right.
Because that's his thing it's like why do you not have one singular conversation with your girlfriend
to say hey man I'm gonna look sketchy for a
minute but trust me like it's gonna work
out in the end like there's no conversation
and that's my thing is like there's no conversation
like that and then there's no moment where anybody's like
bro are you good why are you doing
this all of a sudden also they can
speak to each other through the cars.
I was like, nobody's pressing a button.
They're literally looking at each other
through the window having conversations.
I was like, that's not how that works.
No, they have like blanket Bluetooth available
for everybody or some shit like that, right?
There's like no explanation
as they can all hear each other
and have like a normal dialogue.
It's not like go for Nicole. It's just like everyone's just talking free talking
so then uh he steals the thing for cypher who's a cyber terrorist hobbs gets arrested
and gets locked up in the same high security prison as deckard shaw what a coincidence right
next door right through the glass i see each other so then mr nobody
comes back and i'm like still not clear on who the fuck he is he's like the he's the like
representation of the shadow government like he's in charge of a cia adjacent organization
that is hiring these people to do good missions but also that's so vague and weird and in real life
an organization like that in america would be so fucking scummy and i mean it probably exists
well what what about they reveal everyone's been handcuffed are we at this point where
everyone's been handcuffed by scott eastwood no no so first they escape prison so
mr nobody sets it up for for like hobbs and shaw to escape and hobbs is like no i want to get my
job back the way i want to eat candy apple but then he goes after shaw and i like to watch shaw
kick around his little kids like those little prison slept on
it was very funny to me
I really
like this scene because it's a kind of a fun
it's a fun choreography of like
Shaw is
sort of quick and knows martial arts and
Hobbes is a monster
who's insanely strong
punching the cement and picking up that fucking
bench and fucking doing arm rolls
or whatever.
And then when the full fight breaks out,
he's getting fucking shot
with the beanbags and shit
and just taking it
in the fucking dome.
He's like, rubber bullets,
big mistake.
And I was like,
why is it a big mistake?
Because you're indestructible?
I'm like, that would actually hurt, sir.
I think it would,
anybody, no matter how huge you are.
Yeah, but he's so oiled up,
they just slide off of him.
If they shot him with two real bullets, would he go like, oh, real bullets?
That was actually not a mistake.
You're right.
That will kill me.
Oh, no, I'm dead.
Oops, oops.
Now.
I thought those were rubber.
Fucking little nobody has them all handcuffed, but like wrong, because Letty gets out of them.
Yeah.
Let's talk about little uh nobody scott
my god clint eastwood's son he sucks i remember seeing can i just totally not related to the
movie i remember seeing pictures of him back in the day and being like damn scott eastwood can
get it but he looks like a little little guy like he doesn't i did not expect that i was expecting
a little bit more of like a brooding intense figure he's a he's just a little nobody i think he's handsome he's a cutie he's a pocket a pocket hunk as a real pocket hunk but he has no charisma
like it is so clear like i'm like paul walker had charisma and fucking buckets this dude has none
yeah and it's really apparent when they bring him in that this movie needs Paul Walker in a way.
Like, it needs a Paul Walker energy.
I will say the highlight of Scott Eastwood being in this movie
is when The Rock picks him up, breaks the handcuffs,
and picks him up and presses him into the wall.
That's the highlight of Scott Eastwood's role in this movie.
It was very funny.
Yes.
So then we find out Cypher hired his brother Owen
to steal the nightshade device
which is like whatever and then she also hired moses janky who is dijuman jiman hansu yeah i
can't remember i ever had to say his name but he's so fucking hot to me yeah so hot to steal eye of
god which is like how convenient that she's behind the last two movies.
We just didn't know it.
Yeah.
She wasn't in those movies.
Okay.
I'm see now I'm picking up here.
I'm like, okay, she was not, she's just revealing herself in this one.
Yeah.
And then they're labeling her as she's actually the main bad guy from the last two movies
as well, which means that Shaw, uh, Deckard Shawaw um jason statham is not that bad of a guy
because they need to start slowly pushing it as to why hobs and shaw is the next movie to come out
so they're like he's just an employee yeah his brother is who's the worst one also and then
they're gonna save dom's kid to be redeemed at the end of this movie. It is wild how much of this movie was in service of setting up Hobbs and Shaw.
It was kind of wild.
And I was like, I don't give a shit about Hobbs and Shaw.
I do like Shaw, though.
I do like Shaw, too.
And I thought I would like Hobbs and Shaw, but we'll talk about it next week.
It's a different vibe.
I think they had to start setting up Hobbs and Shaw because The Rock and Vin Diesel's head-butting
Truly did not get along.
Were not getting along at all at this point.
Oh, they didn't get along in real life?
Yeah.
And the rumor I heard is that once they're outside in that moment when they square up,
there were plans to have a fight there.
To have a big fight there between the two of them to help set up Hobbs and Shaw,
and Vin put the kibosh on them having the fight.
Wow.
That's the tea I've heard.
That's the tea I've heard.
I don't know if I'm speaking out of turn,
but I heard that Vin was like,
lose that fight.
That's too much attention for other people.
And then that's when Universal was like,
well, let's spin it off with,
let's give The Rock his own movies.
Wow.
I love to hear this. I also read an article that said that i may have mentioned this
that nobody can like win or actually lose a fight like everyone just they take turns on
who's like down and who's up but like nobody actually loses they have a lot of in their
contract in vin and rock's contract after the movie, or like they had like a,
they have to land an even amount of blows in the final cut. Like it can't be like,
I obviously now that's just two men who are mentally broken,
who are like,
if my fans see me lose a fight in a movie,
they won't like me anymore.
They're going to think I'm weak.
It's just the bald,
muscly dudes dilemma.
I have to.
Yo, Nicole, you called it.
It's like any other actor who just subjugates their masculinity for a role,
everyone sweats it.
Artistically, everyone's like, whoa, Tom Cruise really went against type.
So-and-so really went against type.
These guys are like, my character is never going to die.
And you're like, oh, what are you, 14?
Listen to some Brene Brown or something about vulnerability, okay?
It's a good thing, honey.
Prescribing Dom Toretto Brene Brown would be a really funny thing.
What is this?
You're going to like this, Dom.
Does she talk about family?
So they track Dom and Cypher to their place moments before they attack the base
they injure the team steal god's eye roman's like let's call brian and letty's like no
we promised we would never call brian and mia again and everyone goes okay so then i'm dying
i thought that he died in the in the series too like i didn't realize that they kept him alive
and just said don't call him i thought they yeah that he would have died in the series too like i didn't realize that they kept him alive and just said don't call him i thought they yeah that he would have died in the series seems like like not an easy fix but like
a good way to explain his nice tribute and yeah they can still memorialize him and
no okay so don't call it so weird and wait wait wait till nine uh there's some there's some uh
fun brian referencing i can't get over Should we call Brian and Mia?
No, we promised we'd leave them alone
It's so fucking funny
It's on par with
Are we going to Tokyo?
No, not yet
So Nicole, Han dies
In the second movie
Or no, the third movie
In Fast and Furious Tokyo Drift
But then is in 4, 5, 6 Dies, or no He third movie in a fast and furious tokyo drift but then is in four five six
dies or no he goes to tokyo in seven so they spend like three or four movies with him going
can't go to tokyo yet i will go to tokyo but not yet and it's so funny to me the third movie takes
place after the seventh movie chronologically chronologically oh my god but technology the
technology is so disparate because that movie came out in like 2008 it's perfect that's hilarious
this sounds like me trying to figure out what order to watch star wars in because it always
tells you like chronologically or the number you know when it came out watch it this time it's like
what is happening this sounds the same to me i. I feel like Nicole has some unique experience that can maybe help you with that.
Four, five, six, one, two, three, seven, eight, nine.
And then there's some sagas that are friends of the...
Yeah, then you can go to Rogue One, Solo,
and all that shit.
And then the...
What's...
Oh, Solo.
That's what I was thinking of.
Whatever.
They're hard, and I don't get it and solo fucking sucks so he didn't hate solo i'm the only person who didn't hate it
i thought it was like good i don't know but also i have no reverence to it it's like whatever to me
um also i love when they were like when when Roman's like, use eye of God.
And then everyone's like,
you fucking idiot.
That's too easy.
Stupid.
And he's like, what is just a suggestion?
You know,
that scene,
that scene goes on to another fun thing too,
of like,
uh,
uh,
what's her name?
Ramsey's and Tej both doing like duo hacking and Kurt and Mr.
Nobody being like, why don't you get
a load of this? And then all
and the way that they hack is like, what we can do
is use the Scuzzy Bus backend. It's like
good call. So all we have to do is send that.
It's like, let's do it. And they do it. And he goes
told you they were the best. It's like, what
did they just say to each other?
That's an improv scene.
They're just clicking.
That's what I was just going to say is it's like
it's one of those scenes
where you just see something
like there were so many
scenes like that
where you're just seeing
somebody clicking
clicking clicking
and you're like
what are they doing?
It doesn't even look
close to like something.
I mean that's all
Charlize Theron did
with her black nail polish.
That was the only business
she had was clicking
clicking clicking
but oh wait
she does take Dom
to see Elena
that she has stolen.
She captured Elena.
Elena reveals that she got pregnant with Dom's son a couple months before he realized Letty was still alive.
Yes.
So, Nicole, to break this down for you.
So she's pregnant in that movie.
movie where she shows up and learns that Dom is back with his wife, who
he thought was dead, and is revealed
that, who died in four, and is revealed
at the end of five to be alive, comes back
as a bad guy in six, joins
the team at the end of six,
and Dom gets back with her, and
Dom's like, but in Brazil
I met this woman who's
a widow, and I fucking
I raw-dogged her, I'm sorry.
Sorry about it.
That's what happened.
When it's revealed, it's like, what is
more family than revealing
that he has a kid? Actual family.
Also, I think what's so funny
is it because now we're thinking when Cypher
showed him the picture, she was showing him a picture of Elena
and the baby.
He didn't even say who that baby. He just
was like, okay, let's go.
Well, the baby was bald, so he's like, it's mine.
It's gotta be mine.
Just cut
to a shot of a baby with
a Photoshop Vin Diesel
head on it, like a huge potato
head on a little baby body.
Landing the same number of punches as a
rock baby or something.
Holding two wrenches.
Also, I love that before it's revealed that he has a kid he and letty are in bed and she's like do you want a kid and he's
like and then like lifts the covers she's like not now and then when it's revealed that he has
a kid i was like that is funny that they like set it up that they're like, maybe we do want a kid. Yep.
And again,
that is literally just writing so that when the kid is part of the plot, Letty is okay with raising the child.
It's so complicated.
Raising the child of a woman.
Her husband fucked while she was having amnesia because they thought she was
dead and was a bad guy.
How long was she even dead?
Did they bury her?
Did they see a body?
She was dead for a whole movie.
How long is that in real time for them?
God knows.
Two hours and 45 minutes minimum.
He's like, damn, I'm so sad.
You want to look up with me, Brazilian lady?
She's like, just grab a condom.
He's like, no fucking way.
A raw dog or nothing. He's like, no fucking way.
He's like, no, let me dump you.
But he almost fucked Gal Gadot or no Gal Gadot threw herself at him.
And he's like, oh, yuck.
And then fucks this next lady.
And it's wild. So, OK, later they're in New York City.
Cypher sends Dom to retrieve a nuclear football
held by the russian minister of defense and this is nuts so dom now has a bulletproof
uh fireproof rocket car he looked yeah and he had that outfit he looked like a freaking superhero
all of a sudden it felt like a superhero movie to me. But he looked like the Iron Giant. Yeah, he looked
because he's wooden as fuck. He's iron
as fuck. He's just literally like, he can barely
he doesn't move. He's not young.
No. He is. He's massive
and he wears bootcut
jeans in like every scene. Sure does.
So you can only do so much physically.
I think he was probably 50
when that movie came out because I looked it up today because I was like,
how old is this dude? He's 54 now. So he was probably 50 when they shot that. He I looked it up today because I was like how old is this dude he's 54 now so he was probably 50
when they shot that
that's old for like I mean that's not old
like Iron Man Robert Downey Jr.
was like 63 in the last Avengers
and has a kid or whatever
get a fucking grip bro
these guys are on
so much HGH that they just like stay
young forever until they're like
75 and then their head is huge.
Exactly.
Something explodes.
Yeah.
Real quick, we have to take a break.
And we're back this is a fun sequence because so dom is like my car broke and she's like you five minutes and he's like okay and somehow dom has orchestrated a way for her not to be able to
he knows where cameras are apparently because he orchestrates a way that she cannot find a camera to get on him has a truck pull up we don't know this
magically a truck pulls up to like also you know uh hide him and he in five minutes was able to
leave and have oh wait do we not we don't know yeah do we know that he goes and talks to helen we see it now yeah
we see it now we see it now yeah yeah okay so he can go to a bar have a conversation with her
and then make it back to his car and then have the other car move within five minutes sir i don't
think so no no it's so it's so much moving parts that you don't even that we don't even care about
like we don't know like we
it hasn't been established what cypher will do if she catches him or anything so like there's no
stakes for us it's like and we don't even know like what mission he's on it's like i'm going to
get a nuke hold on let me pull but he still gets the nuke and you're like okay so your plan is still
kind of i love when they reveal that it's the hunk the cuban hunk who's helping him out in the truck.
I loved it.
That was a good little reveal.
I was like, okay, so we did need that cold open.
Because he got the respect.
So he's like, I respect that man.
I should go help him with a deadly mission.
Whatever country you need.
Oh, you're able to track me down while no one else on your team knows what you're up to.
You're able to track down a guy you met one day in Cuba and get me to fly to
America and,
and help you out.
And I love when they show his face,
a very memorable,
handsome face.
They still show the flashback to Cuba to just be like,
you remember this?
It was two hours ago,
but you can remember this.
That's the thing.
The movie's so long.
It's like,
you've probably forgotten. You've probably fallen asleep and movie's so long. It's like, you've probably forgotten.
You've probably fallen asleep and woken back up.
Yeah.
How does this happen?
Because at this point he and Jason Statham are not working together yet.
Right.
Cause this is a scene where he asks like,
mom,
will you tell your son to work with me?
He asks mom.
No,
but then he shot Jason Statham.
Oh wait,
no,
that was all stage.
That's yeah.
That's later.
That's stage.
That's part of it.
That was after.
Yeah.
So anyway, Cypher fucking knocks cars out of buildings somehow she can hack into
every single car ever made no matter what year no matter what kind of car and she can hack into the
computer of the car she makes them go backwards forwards fall out of buildings i love when they
say shit like there's a ton of empty cars around aka we going to smash all these things and no one's going to die,
so you don't have to get upset.
No one will die.
It's fine.
We're going to get them from parking garages.
People are shopping.
And then it's all explained away with her going,
turn off all the safety mechanisms.
On all of them?
And I was like, yeah.
And what is a safety mechanism?
What do you mean?
Who cares?
Now we have full control of falling cars.
Is this now?
What is the eye of God?
Is that a software that they're using to do all those things?
Because they say that Cypher has control of it, right?
Is that what she's using to make the cars do whatever she wants?
No.
Isn't that where she can see all the cameras?
Yes.
The God's eye is from seven.
And that's what they rescue from Jimon Honsu
and hate Ramsey, the hot woman from Game of Thrones.
She invented God's Eye.
And they use it to try to look for Cypher.
Cypher uses that looking for it to counter, find it,
and then steal it in that moment.
And it's like, what does she need the god's eye for i
think she's a better hacker than ramsay she can't make the god's eye yeah she found vin diesel what
else does she need to find so you're saying a black woman created something and then a white
woman stole it a white woman with dreads so she's stealing a lot from the black women cultural and
digital appropriation that's right that's right she's takingation. That's right. That's right.
She's taking it all.
That's right.
You don't like her.
IP appropriation in addition to.
That's right.
Okay.
So then the team intercepts Dom.
Letty gets that thing.
She's like, you won't shoot me.
And then the other guy comes and he's like, maybe I'll shoot her.
But then Dom escapes.
He kills Deckard.
And I'm like, so within this like eight now eight minutes so he had that
five now we're up to like eight minutes deckard's mom has called him already to be like play dead
i had my cuppa play dead i think this heist is a little further along timeline like they maybe had
some time to set that up but i'm not positive like it seems like. Because it's still the same.
Why only involve Shaw and not anyone that you're friends with for decades? The bad guy.
Also, the way they get Dom out of the car is they put the ropes into his car or whatever.
And then they're stretching the car out.
But then, wait, does he throw the door off?
Let's talk about this for a second,
because they all shoot the harpoons into his car.
Yes, harpoons.
And they're trying to pull him in a certain direction,
but he's got the most horsepower.
5,000 horsepower.
Dude, the dialogue in this scene is so upsetting.
It's literally like,
he's got to have 1,000 horsepower underneath that thing.
Roman's like, 1,000.
Try 3,000.
And then Deckard Shaw goes, more like 5,000. 5,000 horsepower underneath that thing. Roman's like, 1,000. Try 3,000. And then Decker Shaw goes, more like 5,000.
5,000.
And then Tyrese is like, man, not the Bentley.
Come on.
You know, I should bring it.
And who cares about the horsepower?
Like, you guys are having the, yeah, more like 5,000.
This is while they're, like, pulling on each other.
They're debating how much horsepower is in the car.
It's so funny.
It's also a little upsetting that Dom Toretto is our car guru.
This is the eighth movie in a row where we expect him to be a car guru.
But he doesn't have the coolest, most tricked out car until Cypher gives it to him.
And it has like a jet turbine and 5,000 horsepower.
And it's bulletproofproof and it can drive.
It's got snow tires.
Snow tires.
It can be on fire, drive through fire.
It's wild.
So then Cypher has Rhodes fucking kill Elena in front of him.
This is so fucked up.
And it's so obviously the writer is being like we
gotta get elena out of the picture or else she's gotta be in every movie as the mother of the kid
it's like let's just fucking kill the bitch it's like got it it's like headshot like it's so
that's so funny oh wait and i forgot he when he meets the baby puts his necklace on the thing
and the necklace is a tracker yes and. And I was like, this necklace
has a lot of heavy lifting to do
in a lot of these movies.
It's like, it gets a lot
of play. It's like handed between characters
in almost every movie.
And we're supposed to, and he even calls it like
a shitty $10 piece of silver or something
like that in one of the earlier movies.
But like, Letty gave it to him, so it means so
much. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's nostalgic.
Does it have...
Do we know it's a tracker
in any of the other movies,
or is this the first time
you realize?
This is the very first time
we see that it's tracking anything.
A long time to make it important,
but not important.
It becomes more and more important
each movie.
Yeah, it's...
He's like,
it's gotta be about family
and my chain.
Family and the family jewels so they
infiltrate this russian military base and they use emp we don't know what this is to disable
their security so dom can just drive on alone and i love how like every time they like see dom
they're like uh maybe he'll have a team they're're like, no, he's going to be alone. And then he's alone.
And then the team arrives, shuts down the submarine.
But then I'm like, why does Cypher want this submarine so bad?
Okay, let's talk about this ice fucking planet concept.
Yeah, where are they?
So they're in Russia.
And they get a classic Fast and the Furious setup of, like,
that Russian base is supposed to be empty i believe everyone inside of it is now considered
a terrorist or whatever and it's like so go kill everyone they're not just guys who are doing
environmental cleanup or anything like that feel free and they show up in like 10 different really
cool cars pull into the parking lot and get out and enter the building it's like they sure do
how come they never carpool they never carpool it's like we need all 10 cars the cars don't
each do something one car gets hit then you can tell fucking uh tyrese to hold on to the door
and then you'll pull him up out of the water and then he can fucking skate on the door. That's why.
I think they think this ice chase is very cool,
but I don't think any of the set pieces in this movie
rise to the power.
I like the prison fight sequence,
but that's more or less like a music video.
It's not like anything interesting.
And then I do like the cars falling and that sequence.
But this feels like it goes on forever and it's like now they have missiles and they suck with them it's like
it's just and also that's not cypher's bad guys that's like a different that's like the russian
and it's like this is more complicated than it needs to be it's oh yeah so complicated and while
that chase happens,
and I do think it's like rather lackluster.
Like I think we've had more exciting ones.
Yeah.
I do like the sequence with Roman.
He gets a fun sequence
because they've been kind of setting him up
as like the wuss or whatever the whole time.
He gets that cool,
slides on the car door behind,
gets up,
gets a dude with the car door,
ices three dudes real fast
and gets like his little
badass moment yeah because you think he's just like a goofy guy the whole time and then all of
them he's like i'm done with this and he just shoots them all it's pretty he literally says
i'm done with this yeah he murders people i feel like his agent requested like hey
tyrese wants one thing where he's a badass. Just one little thing where he's cool. He needs a moment.
Because in six or seven, he chickens out on dropping out of the plane in the car.
They even call it out in this movie.
And he's like, whatever.
I was having engine trouble.
So then Deckard teams up with his brother, Owen, who's out of a coma.
He was really not okay two movies ago or one movie ago.
One? Jesus Christ. It doesn't even one jesus christ these it doesn't even
fucking matter no it doesn't so then they get on cypher's plane to rescue dom's son and owen
takes control of the plane he's like in the cockpit deckard gets the baby shoots a bunch
of people it's real cute they put earbuds on him or whatever and they're like he's gonna get crazy
and then he's like that song mate they're playing a little alvin and the chipmunks christmas song
it's cute where's that smile did you shit no it was that man i just killed of course we have the
did you shit i do like i do like when he says were you about to shoot a baby you sick fuck i really
i like jason Statham.
I think he's great.
I don't think I had ever really paid much attention to him in other movies.
I don't really watch a lot of action movies,
but I liked him.
I was like,
oh,
he's cute and funny and charming.
He's got,
he's got comedy chops because he knows how to play his hardcore type for comedy as well.
So he does,
he does a very good job I think
and just
we'll talk about it next week on Hobbs and Shaw
but it ain't the same
without our boys
and girls
so then Cypher
fires an infrared
missile oh wait so she fucking
dips out she's like only one of us
has a parachute
bye bye and I was like bitch I would put your hair in a bun cause like what if the dreads Oh wait, so she fucking dips out. She's like, only one of us has a parachute.
Tee hee hee, bye bye.
And I was like, bitch, I would put your hair in a bun because what if the dreads get caught on something anyway?
So then she fires a missile at Dom,
but it's a heat something.
Everyone knows what it's called.
A heat seeking missile.
That's what I like about this movie too,
is like Tej or The the rock or anyone they could just
arbitrarily justify of like what they're firing heat seekers we're toast like they know way too
much about everything it's like heat seekers are those cx-71s we better drive as soon as they're
fired they knew what it was as soon as she let like let them go they were like oh we gotta go it's heat seekers yeah and then dom he's done this a lot he shoots the car up into the sky and he
hits the the fucking submarine and then the missile hits the sub and there's a huge explosion
i don't give a fuck but i do like the logic that it's like it's a heat seeker so he he's like all
right well i'll throw fire on the back of my car and make the missile
chase me and then i will drive in a circle make the missile miss me once it'll turn and follow me
and then i'll hit a ramp and i'll bring this missile directly into a submarine i mean and
aren't there nuclear weapons on the submarine or somewhere i mean right yes we're not having like
a huge explosion here is cypipher on the submarine in this sequence?
I thought she was.
No, Cipher, she took a parachute out of her hair,
her hair airplane, her airplane.
Could have been a hair plane.
Well, because she has a woman doing her locks
whenever she's up there, she calls it her hair plane.
It's my hair plane, bitches.
Straight to my hair.
I gotta say, they were the weirdest dreads I've ever seen.
They were just like twisted.
And I was like, how are they staying?
Right.
They're just like loosely twisted.
Yeah, it's weird.
In the deleted scene in the beginning of the movie,
do you see it on the Blu-ray where Cipher's on vacation in the Bahamas
and she gets someone at the beach to do that?
Really?
No, no, I'm just saying.
It does look like a white woman on spring break for sure if
that was real i was like they should have left it in the movie was already an hour or two hours and
15 minutes plus another 10 so mr nobody comes to the penthouse in new york where they live now
i guess they they're done with la because the house blew up to report that Cypher is still operating baby so I guess she'll be back in
nine. Setting it up.
Good guess.
But I don't need Cypher anymore.
I want somebody else. Cypher was
not interesting to me.
Decker delivers Dom's son putting
their differences aside with Dom and Hobbes.
Dom names his son Brian
and celebrates with his family.
The amount of times family was uttered in this movie
Cypher asks the question at one point
she's like do you know why I did this
and he's like family
no man there's other things to talk about
yeah she literally says like
stop saying family
okay you can answer this
question just not allowed to say family
and he's like but uh
family?
you just reminded me of like my favorite Vin Diesel moment in the movie and I forgot to question just not allowed to say family okay he's like but uh family what do i how do i talk
you just reminded me of like my favorite vin diesel moment in the movie and i forgot to call
it out when it's like we're setting up cypher like her thing is that she like knows psychology
and logic or whatever she's like are you familiar with choice theory here's the thing you go to
shoot me my guys will come in here with blahba and he goes even if i could get to you the two-person fail safe wouldn't work
gun in her face screaming yeah what's the opposite of family? Alone. What's the opposite? Cause I'm alone.
He was very unhappy.
He's like,
this is not what I'm supposed to be.
I'm supposed to be with my family.
All of his screaming was so funny to me.
Oh,
it was a lot.
His whole voice is just very funny to me.
It's kind of like a very low frog sound.
It was cracking me up.
Boy,
oh boy.
And then,
uh,
Hobbes declines the offer to go back to I don't know being whatever the
fuck he was I was like okay I gotta say I this is I think maybe the worst one yeah it's not I did
not have as much fun as I wanted to have if you just go like the way I look at these movies
sometimes is like set piece to set piece and it's like the the action sequences in five six and seven
are better than the ones in eight yeah and it's just like that then you can't have like that's
what you're going to see these movies for like i i think a lot of people because i think nine kind
of course corrects a little bit i think people knew that eight was kind of lame like i think
people i think people felt that yeah i was expecting a little bit more from it too because
i was like you know i haven't seen it since the first one.
So I was like,
this is going to be big,
huge action sequences that are gonna be super fun.
And it was kind of like,
I mean,
yeah.
Well,
the,
are you inspired to watch nine at all?
Nicole,
after having it out already,
it's available to rent.
Yeah.
I would maybe watch it.
I now I'm curious.
I mean,
I get curious now that I've seen it.
Is it good?
I would watch four,
five,
six. Those are great. I really like four five and six yeah I like five six and seven uh that's like
my that my five six is a good overlap but yeah I want to see them because I mean obviously they've
been around for so long there has to be a reason for it so maybe I'll check them out not nine is
fun nine is like more heightened than you could really imagine and i'm like i don't want to
i don't even want to tell you some of the details but nine is nine is wild what's that one called
f9 is that what it's called like f9 okay but the people felt the same way we felt it has 67
on rotten tomatoes a critic from vanity fair wrote it's still a whirling good time but maybe
the next film should pair things back,
return to those simpler pleasures,
cars and Coronas,
the big California heat,
a simple backyard cookout.
I fucking agree with this critic.
I love the first,
the first one is so good to me.
And then I do love like the wildness of four,
five and six,
but like it would be nicer to just like not have them be like
impenetrable FBI fucking people who don't die.
That's what I was so confused about because I was,
I don't remember the first one very well,
but I don't remember them being impenetrable FBI people.
Like when they were talking about weapons of mass destruction,
I'm like, what the hell happened in all these other movies that I haven't
watched?
Like where am I?
In Fast 7, they say out loud,
this isn't car stereos anymore.
It's like, oh, right, the premise of one,
we stole car stereos.
We've gotten really far from it.
To answer your question about pushing further and further away
from the first movie,
the next line in what you're reading,
it had a budget of 250 million
and by its end grossed 1.2 billion dollars my god so they don't give a fuck that it's nothing like
one money factory oh my god much money pay vin diesel whatever he wants. Pay all these actors whatever they want, because they the fucking movies are printing cash.
When the trailer was first released, it ranked as the biggest debut to date with 140 million online views in the first 24 hours.
Oh, my God.
Also, this is the most cars being wrecked in a movie uh topping fast five's vault sequence
and fast and furious six's tank sequence it felt like it when all those cars were dropping out of
the building i was like damn like it's always such they're so nice too and they just destroy them all
i guess that's the point but also does sc Scott Eastwick come back in the next one?
I don't.
I think he does not.
No, I'm pretty sure he's not.
And if he is, he's not integral in any way.
He's just like.
He's very handsome, but like fully like.
Poor little guy.
Like meh.
I was so meh with his performance.
And again, just to be the white guy on the podcast saying like,
also the crew doesn't need just another handsome white guy.
It's like,
it's evolved past that.
Like,
don't try to fill Paul Walker.
Just keep adding rappers and DJs and shit.
Like that's like,
those are the fun people to put in,
like bring back some of those other,
I don't give a fuck about Scott Eastwood.
Like the movie,
they're bigger than that now where it's like, unless that name that you
want to drop in is like Mark Wahlberg
or something, then go right ahead.
No, I don't want Mark Wahlberg to touch
this franchise.
No, he would bring such... He can't.
He's too wooden. He's too close to Vin.
He's wooden. He's too close to Vin.
Yeah, he would step on Vin's shit.
That's hilarious. We's too close to Vin. Yeah, he would step on Vin's shit. That's hilarious.
We've come to the end.
Oh, thank God.
You got to get out of here.
I'm trying to get you out of here.
Nicole, do you have anything you want to plug?
Yeah, you can.
I think we already plugged it a little bit,
but listen to The Scroll Down.
It's another HeadGum podcast.
You can find it anywhere you get your podcasts.
I'm on a cartoon called Jellystone
on HBO Max
and otherwise
just follow me
on Twitter and Instagram
I love it
oh hell yeah
hell yeah dude
you'll be tagged
in the tweets
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about this episode
so fuck yeah
we love it
and you co-host
the Scroll Down
with Marcella Arguello
right?
yes Marcella Arguello yes marcella argueo yes argueo
argueo just curious i thought we nailed it really have just been you got it and i didn't nail it i
failed it anyway raiden Raiden so blur a flirt
please talk about Vin's tiny pointy nips
I've never noticed
Nicole's Dom impression is the best
thank you Gabrus knows stuff
it's a really fun time
okay cool
refreshing it's refreshing to hear
oh this is from Jesse Inferno
it's refreshing to hear that takes a people watching a fan beloved franchise for the first time as someone who watched most
of the fast and furious movies in real time the way nicole and gabriel's break them down make me
want to go back and take the ride all over again keep it up hope you guys do the mcu we already did
this the medea cinematic universe Universe. So, done.
Kurt.
So, keep listening.
Keep writing reviews.
Next week, we're back with Hobbs and Shaw.
See you then.
That's hilarious.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
Bye. Thank you. That was a Hidgum Original.