Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Flash (w/ Patton Oswalt and Pete Holmes)

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

Lauren and Nicole have finally reached their final film of this epic Batman journey: Andrés Muschietti’s The Flash (2023)! Starring Ezra Miller as the titular role, this film has more Batman (or should we say... Batmen) than originally meets the eye. Joined by special guests Patton Oswalt (Ratatouille, King of Queens) and Pete Holmes (Crashing, The Pete Holmes Show), Lauren and Nicole weave their way through the complicated multi-verses of the DC world while also taking time to wonder about The Flash’s snack intake, time travel, and how much in life is effected by a can of tomatoes. Follow Patton: Instagram, TwitterFollow Pete: Instagram, TwitterNext week tune in to hear our special Newcomers Presents: Improvised Batman livestream! Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Tell me something. You can go anywhere. Another timeline. Another universe. So why do you want to stay and fight to save this one? Because this is the world where my mom lives. I'm not gonna lose her again.

Time has a pattern... ...that it can't help reliving. Different people, different worlds drawn to each other like magnets. My face. So my face. If you were to go into the past, you have no idea what the consequences can be.

Bruce, I could fix things. You could also destroy everything. This can't be happening. I completely broke the universe. It's all right. We've been waiting for you. I created a world with no metahumans. You broke the universe. It's alright. We've been waiting for you. I created a world with no metahumans.

And now there's no one to defend us. Want some help? Paul. You're... You are... Yeah. I'm Batman. If I can't undo what I did... If I can't get back...

There might not be a future. What's the play? Batman, what do we do? We try not to die. 🎵 The Batman No it's The Flash I got so confused I was like I fucking watched the wrong movie What are we talking about Can I just do my plugs and leave

Again What are we talking about? Can I just do my plugs and leave? Again. The Flash! I almost said the Batman again. Oh my God, I'm sweating now. That's what's written. That was a lot for me to answer. Was that a real mistake? Yeah.

Yeah, it was, buddy. We read. Look. I've already made my thoughts known on y'all's reading. Sure. Wait till we get into it and you watch me stumble over words. No, no, no. We.

Okay, wait. So we're covering Batman movies this season. Yes. We've gotten. We've done them all. We've done all of them. It's been a lot. Yeah.

And this is the 13th and last episode. Before our exciting live stream. Yeah. Which is going to be a really big deal. We're improvising batman scenes with bobby moynihan and karen killer i can't wait i can't wait i'm really excited everyone should be tuning in for that you can get tickets now to watch from home but we're covering as much as we can of this franchise of course it goes very far and very deep but today

we're discussing the 2023 movie the flash starring Ezra Miller. Boy oh boy. The Flash is available with a subscription on Max and Prime Video and you can watch it for a fee on Apple TV Plus, Google Play and Vadoo. Vadoo? We're obviously going to spoil the film in deep, deep, deep depth. So get ready for that if you care. Boy oh boy. Our guest today.

I'm very excited You better believe We got Pete Holmes And Ben Oswald Who are comedians Actors Writers And you know them

From crashing The Pete Holmes show Ratatouille King of Queens We watch Ratatouille A lot in my home Can you pronounce that again Ratatouille

Oh damn You blended our intro It's like a New Zealand almost What the hell Or Scottish Ratatouille is very big In my house Oh really Yeah yeah yeah It's really small Leela loves it Our five. What the hell? Or Scottish. Ratatouille is very big in my house. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's really small. Leela loves it. Our five-year-old loves it. Loves a little ratatouille. Hard to get her to watch a full movie. She calls it Cooking Rat. Cooking Rat. Oh, I'm sure that's what it's called in Japan.

It's probably what Ratatouille means. Cooking Action Rat. Yeah, Cooking Action Rat. And she loves the gun. I'm sure you get some. Do you ever get guff for the gun? There's a gun? Why have I not thought of that? Yeah, the old lady is blasting away

with a shotgun. Oh, when she wants to kill all the rats. It's very not Disney. I love Illumination. You see more guns in Illumination. That doesn't bother me, though. They're all trying to escape. Maybe it would be a broom. There is a hidden...

I didn't think of a rat problem. There's a little hidden Easter egg in that scene, though, because she's a sweet old lady who's weirdly adept with a shotgun, really knows how to blast that thing away. And you can blink or you'll miss it. There's a picture of her on the mantelpiece, young, in a beret. She was in the French Resistance. Oh.

I love the details like that. She was a resistance fighter and they added that in the background to explain why she's so... Why she has a gas mask. A gas mask. Yeah, she went through all that. This is a Ratatouille podcast now.

There's another gun in it. How well do you know your own movie? There's another gun. Yes, and it's only shown in shadow. It's when the two lovers in silhouette are arguing.

It goes, you don't have the guts and she fires and then they kiss and it's such a... It's not shown in shadow. It's when the two lovers in silhouette are arguing. He goes, you don't have the guts. And she fires, and then they kiss. And it's such a- It's not shadow, though. He watches them fight, and he has the gun. Remy runs forward. They hear the gunshot. You circle back.

Why am I telling you about- Should they edit it out? And then you see they're not in shadow. And then you see they're kissing. Yes. They should change to walkie-talkies. Initially, they are in shadow, though. I'm sorry.

I think I know my film. You do. I wasn't correcting you as much as it's such a nice moment that you circle back. Sorry ladies. The Flash. Honestly, no. I'm thrilled that we're talking about Ratui. No questions about my projects?

Do you like Ratui? Which camera do I Krasinski to? which one's my mug yeah yeah what does he do what does he do the paul in phase two where this one that's just right you also have your podcast you made it weird thank you yes padden's been on twice yes i have so check it out i really appreciate that yeah it's hard to grow a podcast when you've been out for 11 years that is a long time it's a long time but it's a long time. That's like OG podcast status. It's been revitalized.

It's like we're in a nice renaissance. You know why? Why? Because my daughter's five. And I'm finally, she's in an age where I can kind of like. Interview her and make it weird? Yeah. She was a great guest.

Great guest. A little dirty. Oh. Well, you raised her. Kind of alt-right, which was weird. But our numbers are through the roof. Are you kidding? The numbers on Rumble are insane.

Pat, you can't eat on a podcast. He's doing it. While he was talking about playing the goblin, he was goblin. Wait, okay. What is your guys' relationship? What's your relationship to Batman or the DC Comics? You obviously love it.

You have a shirt on. Yeah, I wore my Roosevelt's Batman shirt. You have a deep, you both obviously know a lot about this. I'm laughing in Dwight. This is everything you were. There's a fly on my microphone. Were. Were.

Sir. This is the most chaotic. This is everything you were. R. M. Now. No, I know it. Thank you. I did wear my Batman shirt. Can I go first? Yes, please. I'm just going to say I absolutely love Batman very, very much. Yeah. And you've been

doing Batman sketches. For over 10 years. Is that true oh yeah I Patton was the penguin one of the early ones which I'm still so grateful

you did and yes it's Batman Batman so I'm Batman on YouTube yeah but you you love

you love the guy no I love it those are all made from my heart I didn't love who cares what I didn't love the guy. No, I love it. Those are all made from my heart. I didn't love... Who cares what I didn't love? The only mean-spirited ones we did were Dark Knight Rises because I didn't like Dark Knight Rises.

Okay. What's your favorite Batman? I don't know about your taste in general. Or who's your favorite Batman? My favorite Batman is Keaton, which is great. That's why I loved Flash. Oh, yeah. Well, it was exciting to see him.

Yes. One of the things... I got to be in a Batman episode, and I played the Penguin, It was great. That's why I loved Flash. Oh, yeah. Well, it was exciting to see him. Yes. One of the things, I got to be in a Batman episode, and I played the Penguin, and what I loved about them is, and they're really, really funny, and they're really perfect, but they also are subconsciously showing, this is what a Nolan Penguin would look like. This is what a Nolan Riddler would look like. Even though they're trying to be funny and wacky, and they are, they do follow the Nolan aesthetics in a way where it almost feels like deleted scenes from the Nolanverse of that's what he would have made the penguin look like.

Yeah, I agree. And it's fascinating. And that's Kat Bardot, our wonderful makeup person. Oh, my God. She is great. She's incredible. Incredible. And she did, she gave you these ears.

And the hands. And we made Matt McCarthy the Riddler before they did the Riddler. And I liked our Riddler more. He had carved question marks on his face. Really scary. But yeah, we're in Brimmer Directs. Matt McCarthy does those with me. And they're on my YouTube. That's so fun.

If anyone wants to check them out. But I don't want to jump ahead. But this movie worked a lot for me. The Flash. Because I was watching, I know you guys are probably going to have an argument. Oh, I can't wait to yell

at you. I'm going to yell. I'm going to yell. It worked for you. You don't need to. This is a microphone. It amplifies your voice. Yeah, we can turn you up later. It's tonality. It's not volume, it's tonality. Anyway, when I saw, because i didn't know much about this movie yeah so i kind of went in perfect i'm sure everybody else in the world had seen spoilers

and trailers and all this sort of stuff i just put on a flash movie and now i got blue affleck batman then i got fucking we got keaton i was equally surprised i didn't know anything i was so when i googled it though i was finding finding that there were Reddit threads spoiling it before it came out. Like you're saying, people were all up on it. I will jump ahead a little bit. I also haven't watched a superhero movie in a while, and I think that will inform why I loved it so much. So there's obviously superhero fatigue, but it's been a long time. I'm a father.

I grew up in the 90s watching the original Tim Burton Batman. So I put this movie on needing a break, needing some alone time, wanting to watch a superhero movie. Never saw The Eternals, never saw The Rings one. I haven't been keeping up.

So I put one on and I was like, this is just going to be my opinion the whole way through. Everybody needs to shut up up they're just trying to delight us it's so fun but we're we're a little spoiled that's my whole point right up top you just explained where Marvel and DC went

wrong they did put too much stuff out they did glut the market so that it didn't feel special and what you experienced was what people experienced when they saw the Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man. Oh, oh, and that was a movie that's just out to delight you and be silly. There's a fun extra thing after the credits.

And then very quickly, someone put this so well. This how I'll describe it. They turned into homework. They turned into. Well, we understand that. Before you see the Marvels, you've got to watch this show and this show. And you got to watch this movie or this. And you're like, don't get. And honestly, how understand that. But before you see the Marvels, you've got to watch this show and this show. And you've got to watch this movie or this. And you're like, don't get. This is where I go to relax.

I agree. Having the scene at the end about the next one, I'm like, no, there's another one. I didn't even watch that. The movie ended when it ended. But I, again, to jump around, forgive me, but when we met Supergirl, I don't even know if we're calling her Supergirl. I think that's what her name is. But it wasn't Captain Marvel.

It wasn't some other franchise. It was just a character in this movie. And I was like, oh, great. I didn't feel excluded from it. Yeah, that's true. The whole time I was like invited to the party and I was like, this is great. And it's definitely supposed to be very silly.

But I'm about to rebut some. Too silly. As right as you are, I will be rebutting some of this shortly, but we will. But I'll take it from the point of view of someone who watches a lot of these movies. Yeah.

And because they were also trying to court that crowd, because that's what their money is, to see them with it so badly was kind of stunning, but I'll let you. No, I didn't watch all these movies, Patton. Did you watch Madam Web? No. No. That I. And it was a bunch of us.

You know what? A bunch of us were going to do that nostalgic thing when we were in our 20s, me and Brian Hussain and David Cross and that whole crew, we would purposely go see movies that we knew were going to be bad to enjoy it. Yeah, it's always fun. It is fun. And now that I'm 55 and my daughter's 14 and a bunch of us were going to go on a Monday and I'm like, I could read a book

or go for a walk. But I'm telling you, go see it. I loved it. You loved Madam Web. Sure did. Oh, dear God. Because if you look at it in a way that maybe it is a satire on comic book movies,

it's perfect. I laughed. I had a great time. Kind of like how you have to watch Napoleon like a comedy. That's what everyone kept saying. I mean, sure. I haven't seen Napoleon, but if you go in with a ha-ha vibe, maybe you'll ha-ha-ha. Now I'm intrigued.

Wait a minute. Do you think that Dakota is in on the joke? No. Oh, she's trying to sell this thing. Yes, but as a whole. But I feel like they all learned later that it wasn't good. I haven't seen it, but the way everyone's talking about it publicly, it's useless. Her press tour got more press than the movie.

Yes. Right. The fact that this is a lead actress launching a franchise going, you don't need to go see it. Yeah, yeah. Which is stunning. She said that? Oh, every interview she gave, she was like, oh, the script was horrible.

She just was trashing her movie. She dropped her reps after the movie came out. Aren't there contractual, like, you're not- I don't know. That's what I find movie. She dropped her reps after the movie came out. Aren't there contractual... I don't know. That's what I find fascinating. I find that fascinating. I think contracts are like, you have to do the press, or you're expected to do the press, but you can say whatever you want.

And also, I know that for a lot of... They will now. I've only experienced this first... I can say this because I've experienced it firsthand. When you do a franchise thing, a DC show or a Marvel show, a lot of the times, and this happened twice to me, in your contract, it is written, you will go to San Diego. You will do these panels. That is written into what you're doing. And now they know a lot of online shows that get a lot of traction.

You will participate in whatever goofy games are doing. Yeah. That's how we sell it. Yeah. Very interesting. Can I add one little button to what we're talking about? Please. Because I just want to, I'm going to prime you with this thought.

You, again, you're bringing a genuinely unique perspective to this as someone who took a break. Yes, I took a break. And then just enjoyed it. I think any movie that you're going to like have an opinion about, it's so weird. We don't see the world as it is. We see the world as we are. And that's true for movies.

And we just read some reviewer who goes and watches a movie. Tell me about your love life. Did you take a dump that morning? Had you had coffee? Are your parents sick? I'm not trying to be funny. What's going on in your life? And in fact, you actually could use

just a little brokenness. Like, if something bad happened to you recently, and you watch a movie... And then you go, I hate this fucking movie. It's a piece of shit. I think it could go both ways. It can make you hate it, or if you're vulnerable and you need healing, you want to watch someone on screen struggling.

So, where were you? And I want you to watch it twice, but they can't. It's like they have to turn it around fast so they can shit on it. Of course you're shitting on it because it's literally homework for you. Yes. And you resent it. I'm just trying to say you can enjoy any movie if it meets you in the right way. So it's pretty absurd to kind of go around declaring things good or bad when we're really

just talking about how we're experiencing our own lives. Sometimes movies will... I remember I'd gone through a really, really horrible breakup and I was flying to New York after the breakup happened. This is in the late 90s. And this is...

Oh, God, this is so embarrassing. This is back when... Good. Before they had streaming... I don't know if you remember, the planes would give you those little portable DVD players with movies already programmed in.

And you could just pick a movie. A DVD player? I don't know. Was that first class? Yeah, I don't know that life yet. I remember the whole plane getting it. These little flat things they were experimenting with. And I watched Legally Blonde, and I was in such a vulnerable, raw place that when she ends up winning at the end,

and that song Perfect Day comes on, I almost started torn in love. I was so torn and that movie still hits me that way even though I know it's like, but I was you're right, I was in the moment that I was ready for it. Thank you for yes-anding my premise. When Val and I were falling in love we're still in love. I don't know why I threw that to you.

But we're still in love. Okay, okay. He's still in love. I just mean when we were but we're still in love okay okay yes Lauren he's still in love it's fine I just mean when we were first meeting and falling in love we watched the movie

Why Him Bryan Cranston and James Franco it's not a great movie but we were so in love that I still can't help but smile when I think about

James Franco being a buffoon son-in-law that's what you're seeing yeah that's what you're and when Yeah. That's what you're, and when you're a little broken, so I actually was just going through a hard time

and I was watching The Flash and I was like, he needs to learn a lesson. I need to learn a lesson. Yeah. And some problems can't be solved. You just have to, I was fucking in.

Wow. And I also was like very touched by how clearly passionate, I think you can, even if you didn't like it, which is totally valid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They put a lot of heart into, a lot of, I don't mean a plot heart.

I mean like making the suit line up. Oh, oh. All the gags, all the jokes. Oh, I was going to say the story with his mom. Packing in, whoever made this movie, and I don't know, but like they cared. We'll tell you. Yeah, we'll tell you yeah and they and they went for it and i was like respect as i'm like trying to make different things write different scripts i'm like fuck yeah dude you took a four hour break to

think of the best lasso of truth joke and it's 30 seconds of the movie and i know that took you a full day and fucking bravo oh we definitely respect that about all these things that we watch, because there's a lot of stuff that we're like, I don't get it. It's not for me or whatever. But, like, of course, it takes so many people and so much effort and all that stuff. Yeah, nobody's setting out to make it bad. And a lot of times, these directors are operating with a massive boot on their neck. Not only are they pleasing the script,

they have had to have meetings with merchandising people, toy makers and it's rough but sometimes these movies still don't work and I'm sorry, this didn't work for me but we will get into that you're like the new Siskel and Ebert I'm like so into it I used to have a bit about this where I go, I made fun of a movie on stage and someone yelled out, you make a movie

which is only happening in LA that is such an annoying thing to say I agree I feel like your style inspired this bit I never did on a special or anything but I think you'll hear your influence on me in this bit I was like that's not how reality works if I don't like a cake at Burger King

the chef doesn't come out covered in flour a cake at Burger King? they make their little Oreo cake don't fuck with me but actually I haven't been there in a while they do have cake now. And he yells, you make a cake. He said they make an Oreo cake.

They have like a mousse thing, but that's not really a cake. It's more of a pie. I appreciate your fast food expertise. I love Burger King. I was just trying to pick a bad cake. I used to eat Burger King every day after school. Where you would judge a cake. Then I found out I was a needy.

I was like, you can't. I can have an opinion about cake without knowing how to make a cake. Doesn't that sound like something you would say? Guys, guys, guys, we need to take a break. We have to. Oh, I'm sorry, I can have an opinion about cake without knowing how to make a cake. Doesn't that sound like something you would say? Guys, guys, guys, we need to take a break. We have to. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Here we go. Okay, we'll take a quick break and we'll be back with more about the flesh and everyone's life and what's going on with them.

We're back. All right, listen, the flash. My laugh is going to be on both ends of that cat. You think? Oh, they've got us figured out. They are so fucking good. There's no way to figure that out. There's an audio problem.

Look at Anya's face. No, it's fine. She loved it. It's fine. Don't even worry about it. Do not. The Flash was released on June 16th, the beginning of summer in 2023.

That was recent. It was written by Christina Hodgson and directed by Andres Musachietti. Oh, wow. I don't approve of that. That's what it says. I'm just kidding. I sounded it out.

I'm just kidding. I don't say a lot of words. We want to thank the movie spoiler for helping us put together this summary. Yes, thank you. Really? Yes. Okay.

Wow. We're going to jump into the plot. We're going to talk about this in great detail. And I want to hear everyone's thoughts. And you can interrupt at any time. By the way, whoever wrote the summary, this is like unraveling Iran Contra. So thank you. Exactly.

It's the Lord's work. Okay. There's no way we could do this. It's very confusing. I'm going to say up top, all of this is wrong. You're supposed to sit there and go, his costume lights up with lightning. Oh, no, no. He phases through walls.

That's pretty much what I got from the film, but I know there's more going. He's not a twin. He's not a twin. I'm not a twin. So that's why we need the summary, because you're wrong. I didn't think he was born in the same womb and raised. I followed the plot. We'll see.

Yeah, we'll see. Okay, Barry Allen, Ezra Miller. You can't eat on a podcast. What is that, by the way? There's so many snacks. Is it good? You're like Elon Musk eating the pizza. It's good.

Okay, Barry gets a sandwich before work. I thought, I actually was very surprised by the start of this film. Please chew and have your- Loved the start. The start, I was surprised. I was surprised. He's having this sort of start i was surprised i was surprised he's he's having this sort of like conversation getting his sandwich and he's a little like nervous and whatever i hated he gets a call from alfred jeremy irons informing him of a mission he puts on his

flash suit and rushes to stop a hospital from collapsing into a sinkhole now this scene was so fucking insane oh i feel like it's very important to say that while he we're seeing his character flaw he's he's impatient. Yeah. He also feels inferior to Batman. These are the emotional stakes of the film. It's always Batman. Batman gets the cool job. I have to go save the hospital

while Batman is shown being very cool. That is literally what's resolved. That is a good point. So that's very important. Thank you. It's also very fun and novel to have the guy making the sandwich slow. I don't know why I'm being so combative.

No, it's okay. You don't need to. He's making it really slow and he goes on this adventure before the sandwich is done. I thought't know why I'm being so combative. No, it's okay. He's making it really slow and he goes on this adventure before the sandwich is done. I thought that was very cute. Right off the bat. Fun.

I'm going to win you over, baby. You loved this movie. I was pushing on the raisin. I was like, this is... I know. That guy was like... You're being rude. Yeah, but he was the fill-in guy.

It wasn't the usual guy. I know. And you're right. I was watching the scene. Can I say, I was in a hospital watching this scene getting an iron infusion

for my pregnancy and I was above the maternity ward where I gave birth previously and this scene is happening and I was like, it's as if the wall

is falling off behind me and all of the babies are falling. It was actually too real. Too real. I was watching old people with infusions and then there's all this stuff happening and I was like, this is a really weird place to be watching this.

That's why you gotta watch it in a Vision Pro, man. Get yourself a Vision Pro. I didn't like the babies falling. The CGI babies look sick and wrinkly. All these babies are falling out of the window. I actually thought that it's a tricky production choice. We're having babies, which I thought was a great high stakes way to show this guy do

something fun. But. He puts a baby in a microwave. Why did he put it in the microwave? I don't know. To protect it from the flame. Well, eventually I understand, but they're falling in the sky. And then he.

And he saw the flame. Then he punches through a vending machine and is like. Because he needs his energy. And then he. Midway through the movie, we like lose that. He's not hungry anymore. And I was like, he's hungry.

He's eating the whole time. The clone. No, he's not. The spaghetti at Batman's house. This kid is hungry. That's the other version, isn't it? But he doesn't have his powers

at that point. But I feel like he's so hungry saving these nasty little baby trolls. And then he lines them all up and then everyone lives. The best part though is the nurse who's like, that lady's screaming.

I was like, that's the part I want. Why didn't I get that? You would have been great. I did want to point out, though, that the babies, because I thought about it. I was like, this is working. I like it. The microwave is close to the edge. It's a little bit offensive, but it was making me laugh. But also the babies are sucking

their thumb and they're kind of laughing. Very important. If those babies were screaming. Scarier. Bad movie. Wrong choice. It goes on for a long time. Too long. With the babies falling where you're kind of going, I think he is going to save them,

but I'm just like watching them fall and he's doing other shit. And that's funny, but I'm going, get them. Get those babies. That was a little concerned. But also they look like devil babies. I didn't like them. The artist who did them, I don't want to shit on somebody's work, but like, have you seen a baby before?

That's my issue. You are too funny. Look at your face at the end. Ben Affleck Batman is nearby chasing after a group of criminals who are a possession of a deadly virus. And they're eventually pulled up from the side of a bridge by Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot, with her lasso. Flash shows up a bit late, but he's thanked for his work.

Okay, not to be rude, but did Gal want to be there? These are all one-week shoots. They all wanted to be there. I don't know. It's because it's easy? It just pulls them up. Michael Shanahan?

Shannon. He wanted to be there. That was one week. Gal had the same energy. I've never forgotten this. I went and saw Batman and Robin, the George Clooney one. A perfect movie. She loves that one. And there's a scene where George Clooney, as Bruce Wayne, is dedicating a new telescope.

And he says, and with this, we'll be able to, and he's standing at a rail. He goes, and with this, we'll be able to reach to the stars. And he just does this on the railing. And it's that thing. Blaine's like, it's him going, I don't want to be in this fucking movie. And that was the energy Gal had in that scene. I agree. What's the line?

I'll just give you one. I'll give you one. Here we go. I'm sorry, but you could just tell she didn't want to be there. I fully agree. Sorry. I'm so sorry. That could just tell she didn't want to be there. I fully agree. I'm so sorry. That's the energy she gave off. I know she's supposed to be strong, but I was like,

can't you just have a little bit of effort pulling these two gentlemen out? It takes nothing. Or be triumphant about it. There was just nothing. But even deliver her line with a little bit of thing. That's so true. That's great. Oh, you liked it?

I loved it. The best Lasso of Truth joke was in the first Wonder Woman movie when it's around Chris Pine and he starts going, oh my God, this plan is horrible. We're all going to die. Like, that was great. Because the truth is coming out. Because the truth is coming out.

I liked my ego is far too big to say thank you. I thought that was fantastic. And then I thought the Flash saying, I've heard of sex, but I've never had it. I was like, that's two for two. And they didn't stay there too long. We did a pretty good lasso truth bit in my thing, but I was like, they did it very nice. Yeah.

The Flash as a character talks about his dick a lot. Yeah. And I found that to be a little disarming. I was like, whoa. I was surprised. I also was just surprised right off the bat how comedic this movie is. Yes. Because it's really,

it's a very different tone than like anything we've been, especially the last few Batman's that we've been watching. Those were the Christopher Nolan ones which were so serious. Very gritty and very realistic. Which we really liked

but like this is just so silly that I was kind of like, okay, but then I'm like, wait, it's almost three hours long. It's almost three hours long and the whole movie

looked like CGI. Yeah, well, there's almost three hours long. It's almost three hours long. And the whole movie looked like CGI. Yeah, well, there's so much fighting and battling for long, extended... Do you like that? I loved it. I don't always love it. But in general, though, I think like a fight scene. I thought it was excellent.

It made me feel like, again, I've taken a break, it made me feel like a kid again. It really made me feel like a child. I'm seeing the Batmobile. I really feel like I'm representing what I thought was going to be your perspective. I'm sorry, but I do watch a lot of action movies. I just watched Kill Buck

Soon. What's The Beekeeper? An incredible movie with Jason Statham where he plays an actual beekeeper and a murderer, part of the beekeepers and they don't explain it and I didn't need them to but like I'm just saying there's action now that has been taken

to new levels in movies so when I watched the action this was and I know I'm being a snob but there's a certain bar that's been raised and go jump over it and this one's just like computer and I know it's still hard to render stuff on CGI. It's a very hard work,

but it just, it's not thrilling. Because you're like, this was rendered somewhere. I always like those practical effects. I had a moment though to consider, remember when Batman's being dragged? I forget exactly what's happening, but he's on a rope and he's being, it's almost like he's ice skating.

Yeah. Oh, Affleck at the beginning, when he's being dragged's almost like he's ice skating yeah it's oh um uh affleck at the beginning when he's being dragged by the car you're like i'm out of this oh i was in and he jumps over the cars and it looks so cartoony and you're like he's he's in no danger yeah there's nothing at stake i'll i'm gonna wear both shoes oh boy meaning i loved it and the way one of the reasons that i loved it i was like how big was this green screen green screen stage because I was like that was a big

camera move and a big stunt so I was actually appreciating the effect can I ask a question about the Flash I don't know if you know

but how comical as a character is the Flash in general how silly in the books he is very he's not silly

but he Barry Allen and Wally West his successor I get it they're the one characters that are like hey do I get health insurance

for being in the Justice League hey I have a job I need to make my so they're kind of like I'm not a playboy billionaire hint hint yeah

I need you know he's their Deadpool yeah well he's also he's you if you had superpowers yeah okay I can run really fast I don't know how I pay

bills with that right you know without becoming a criminal and I don't want to become a criminal. He does steal a lot of hot dogs. He does. One thing they do, again, they touch on it at the beginning with the guy making the sandwich, and they never really touch on it again.

And they touch on it a lot in the comics is the Flash is like, you know, like when you're behind the slow person in the checkout lane, and you're going nuts. That's every second of my life yeah yeah every second of my life is everything is going too slow for me or is at the writer alan moore said it's a man whose whole world is a gallery of statues that's all it is that's how fast he moves so of course he's a little um nervy and antsy you don't they don't go back to that you don't think that that's his entire personality. Like he's too much. Again, as a person

who worries that I'm too much, I'm relating to this guy. Yeah, but he played he didn't play it like that. OK, I'm sitting on a lot of anger. He just played it with all this goofiness.

I don't we could get into a whole other thing about the actor, which we don't need to. But I mean, it was hard to separate the actor. Well, there's been

so much news. So I don't know what happened with him. They used a lot of stuff. They're non-binary. Just for our pronoun purposes. They body slammed a person at a bar. They kidnapped a young girl. They had a family living in their commune.

And then they just decided to open this movie let them do one interview and that was it and it was just it's a little wild that's why he said the Justice League doesn't have mental health trust me wasn't that a reshoot to kind of put a wink in the movie

that's what I was told I feel like at that point they were trying to shy away from everything they were doing they didn't I don't think the studio wanted to remind everyone because it was every day they were in the news doing something worse and worse and worse

and it also fell to that actress who plays Kara, Supergirl who did a fine job for what she was given but she had to shoulder the weight of that. Yeah. She did all the promo. Oh, my God.

What about Keaton? He didn't really promote it that much. That's really hard. Because I think he wanted to separate himself from Ezra. That's a shame. Yeah, it's tough. I read a whole article about it while watching. Same.

Because I didn't really know all the details. And then I was like, yikes. Oops, I'm having a hard time. Yeah. good anyway back to the summary so here we go nearby batman don't be sorry she's a group of criminals they're in possession of a deadly virus oh we already read that okay so barry rushes to the research center where he finds his co-workers patty and albert uh waiting for their boss to shoot them out and And then we meet Iris West, who recognizes Barry from college. This I didn't need.

And then we find out that his dad is on trial for murdering his mom. I love Ron Livingston. I love Ron Livingston, too. I was really excited. It's murder from Sex and the City. I'll jump in and say... That's what I know him from, Sex and the City. In a 4K world, it's really tricky.

And I don't have a 4K TV, so maybe it was my TV. His makeup was like, he was wearing orange face. It was very done. Did you notice this? Was it an aging thing? I don't know if it was aging. I watched this on a TV

in a hotel, so I didn't have any problems. Was it a Hilton? I'm not sure. Did you get points? I know where I stand. I'm on three points program, so it must have been a place where I get points. I need more points in my life. I want more points, too.

I need someone to give me a whole primer on that, but okay, that's for another day. Pretty sure any lobby reception will give you that primer. They will walk you right through. If you want to talk to people, just give us the points. You're going to have to get over it. So, Barry later chats with Henry over the phone about the store's security footage needed to establish Henry's alibi at the time of Nora's death.

Henry's face is not visible. So Barry fears that the evidence will be admissible. Barry puts on his flash suit and runs to his childhood home. He has a flashback to the day his mother died in a very current kitchen. That kitchen was not a flashback kitchen. I think that it's not that long ago. It's not that long ago because the character is kind of young,

right? It's like 15 years ago. Well, I don't know if farmhouse sinks were in 15 years ago. Or those pulls. Those are very current pulls. It's a double farmhouse. I don't know if you noticed that. It's a nice sink. And it was on trend with the blue cabinets. It was. This was you noticed that. It's a nice thing. It's a nice thing. And it was on trend with the blue cabinets.

It was. This was not for me. It took me right out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, boy. But the scene where she's stabbed. You gotta have your ears. So the little kid finds his mother stabbed downstairs.

And then the dad's like, call 911. And then the kid runs outside. I was like, where are you going? Well, because he thought Daddy did it. Because Daddy's hand was on that knife. He did that at that moment? Yes. Because the knife and i didn't process it that way holding it like he did it and it's like call 9-1-1 and i think that kid was like oh no i think my dad did this yeah i thought it was more just like metaphorically oh maybe i thought he was like panicking like running

i don't think it's what happened i think it's his memory it's like this is the moment i started running from my life oh that, that's really poetic. I really think this is how you're supposed to watch the movie. Because if you go, why isn't he calling 911? He could have been running to a payphone. I don't know what he's doing. Oh, I was stuck on that kitchen. Really made me upset. I like the layers you're giving them.

I think this is the casualty with which to watch this movie. No, I think that's true. We can't, we are not given that sort of freedom. It's not your job. We're here to play. No, but Barry realizes he can run fast enough to go back at least

one day in time, so he relays that to Bruce and Barry proposes he goes further back in time to save both his mother and Bruce's parents. And now we have our theme established.

Bruce says we can, our wounds make us who we are. Then he also invites him out to dinner and Bruce says, when this comes back, maybe another time.

I also love Affleck. Did Ben Affleck? I feel like he was doing a different voice. Yes! I was confused because I was like, in his because we watched the Justice League Ultimate Edition. Everybody loves it. It's 100 hours long. And I felt like his voice was very

different. I actually was like, is he doing a bit? I thought it was like a character. Because he was doing the Christian Bailey thing. Oh, as Batman? I don't think he did that that much in the previous. No, in the previous one, I think he had a voice modifier, like a digital one. Yes, maybe that's the difference. And in this one, he's just doing it all natural.

Because he was doing it. Interesting. I don't know. I'm just going like, he's kind of blue and I love it. He's Miles Davis. He's kind of blue. Bruce leaves and Iris meets with Barry about Henry's case. Barry comes to a conclusion that there's a way

to undo Nora's death. Iris is pointless. Yeah, no, I know. And I didn't... There's a lot of like the... I think she's a great actress. No, it's not anything against the person. But it's like the sort of when they... You need it. Why? If that movie ends and he's not going on a date you don't have

he's not fully resolved should have gone out with Supergirl they weren't coming because what is what is look let's get Freudian but what is a wife

but like your new not I'm saying new mommy don't say it new mommy yeah sure it's not my theory Paging Sigmund

I'm just saying like who's Sigmund Freud he needs a female I thought he meant Paging Sigmund he comes in he's like

mommy is white this isn't my theory but it's I think you would have been unconsciously dissatisfied if that movie ends where he doesn't learn how to talk

to the woman that he couldn't talk to that he wanted to I don't know he loses his mom and then he finds the love of his life. Well, so he goes back to the grocery store. Yeah, that's why people go see a Flash movie.

He goes to the grocery store. I actually take issue with it. People have no idea why they go and see movies, and it is for stuff like this. You think you want fast running, but if it doesn't have stuff like this, it doesn't work. I don't think I want fast running.

I actually do want something more. The stuff with the mom in the supermarket, that was touching enough to me. It was so touching. Well, in this whole scene. No, that's the sad part. This scene, I didn't find that to be sad.

I didn't find emotional. What? The mom touching him in the supermarket and he makes the choice to sacrifice her for the greater good or whatever.

I thought that was enough of growth. That story, I was really surprised by how strong of a storyline that was. But I was also happy because I wanted there to be that depth to the character because it's such a silly, you know, story. But like, so he goes and he goes back in time. He plants a can of tomatoes, which is what his dad had gone out to get when the stabbing occurred.

He puts it into her cart so that that doesn't need to happen. And whispers for good measure. Yeah. Don't forget the tomatoes. They're in the cart. You did it. She'll put them up there. She ain't gonna forget.

They're there. But it was so fast. It was just. So he goes back and he meets his old self who is 18 and is just a goofball. So that wasn't a twin? No. Pete. Alternate version of himself if his parents had

never died and he didn't become the Flash? No, no. He went back the day he got struck by lightning to become the Flash. Yeah, it starts raining and he goes, it's September 29th. Yes, and then Mega Evil Flash later is like, I pushed

you out so you could go there to... But he's like... Everything that character does, he's like I'm like, why is he like that? I need my laundry done. I know this is a complicated guy, and I'm not weighing in on that scandal. I don't know anything

Oh no, we're talking about a character. I kept wanting to not like the performance, and I was like, this is working for me. Oh no, I agree. I texted you that, that I thought it was a good performance. Weirdly enough, his alternate universe version of himself was so annoying that the regular Ezra Miller became weirdly wise and calming by comparison. It's the first time I've seen an actor create a version of themselves that makes you like the version of themselves that normally you wouldn't like. That's quite a feat. I will also say, just to throw this in the mix,

you see his impatience here because 18-year-old Flash Barry won't listen to the ends of sentences. That's why he ends up naked in his neighbor's apartment. I thought the phasing was funny, but he's very, very impatient. I liked that whole segment

because I tend to like... I'm like the writer and you're like the studio. You are def... Yeah, I know. You're kind of like, ah, can we have more running? You would have liked this. Yeah. Just more running. It's a movie called The Flash, but it's three hours long. Okay. Whatever. Okay, fine. Well, I like

body switch movies. It's the fastest man alive. Four and a half hours of speed go ahead no I was gonna say I like body switch movies and I like time travel I like that kind of stuff so I did enjoy this plot line yes it was I was thinking about as an actor like wow this person has to do so much

in this movie because it's two of this character for the entire time doing two totally different things and that was impressive very impressive and I think they have the range. But I will say, they do talk about Back to the Future in the movie and it's very Back to the Future-y. Back to the Future gets into it so much faster.

I just wanted them to get into this faster. Right. What are the problems that occur now that you're back? Okay. The two berries go to the... Yeah. Go okay go to the two berries go to the yeah go for it the two berries go to the research center so that barry two can go through the same freak accident that gave barry one his powers just as barry two begins panicking barry stands in front of him right when the lightning strikes hitting both of them barry sees that he's lost

his powers while barry two has successfully acquired them and they return to Barry 2's apartment where he begins to have reckless fun with his powers. That part's fun. He is fun. He goes for a run and he wreaks havoc. And it's sad that he doesn't have his powers anymore and it's like, what do I do? And then the refrigerator situation by the way was making me so

sad, but that's real. That reminded me of having children too, by the the way it's like you give this younger thing your energy you're like your life force and you're happy to do it so i kind of i related to that i enjoyed it it's like you have it and then but you also know he's gonna go out and i'll make all these mistakes yeah yeah anyway well the next day just as barry gives barry to his we gotta have this guy uh watch showgirls and make it a beautiful allegory about empowerment or something. Because he's seeing stuff in here that I absolutely didn't see.

Yeah. I'm not disagreeing with you, but my God. We're talking. We're having a conversation about space. And I had a big empty room in my psyche called put a movie here and I put one movie in there and I was like we're in such a different

very different space also I just watched showgirls and I think it's an actual masterpiece oh dear god I've never seen it Lauren we gotta watch it it is incredible the choices made are insane I went and saw it at the sunset 5 seen it. Lauren, we gotta watch it. It is incredible. Newcomer's Showgirls? You'll love it.

The choices made are insane. I went and saw it at the Sunset Five when people were trying to make it into a cult movie and failing. There was this weird push for like a month, like when they would say brown rice and vegetables, people would throw brown rice. And it was just not catching on

and it was so, the failed Showgirls Rocky Horror attempt. That's worth an episode. That's great. That is very funny. Anyway. Well, here's where General Zod comes in. I love Michael Shannon.

I think he's also hilarious in interviews. He's always like, there was some interview where they're like, what do you think happened to your character? He's like, I don't care. Yeah. I go in, I do it. And the way his head and face is inside that helmet, I wonder if he was ever physically on that set. I truly wonder. He is a completely, just a digital face inside of it.

Yeah. His army of Kryptonians arrive on Earth, and they find Barry, and Barry believes he's Superman. Barry tries to find another Justice League member in this time, to find the other Justice League members in this timeline. Yeah, so then the Barrys go to Wayne Manor to find another Justice League member in this time, to find the other Justice League members in this timeline. So then the Barrys go to Wayne Manor to find Bruce, only to see that it's Michael Keaton! That was fun.

And he's older. And he's wearing one flip-flop. And I didn't think it was him at all. And he's wearing a wig. The worst wig I've ever seen. I was really confused. And a crazy beard. Yes.

And I didn't realize it was Michael Keaton until way later. Me too. And I was like, oh, this is embarrassing. Those dreamy blues? They didn't make that clear for Keaton until way later. Me too. And I was like, oh, this is embarrassing. Those dreamy blues? They didn't make that clear for a while. For a long time. That it was Michael Keaton? I did not get that.

Yeah. I'm the guy who lives here. You didn't go, it's Michael Keaton? No. I just didn't get that. We had different 90s. Our 90s were different. I mean, I got the voice right away, but I was still distracted by the fact that they

apparently went to a spirit Halloween store for a wig and beard and barely taped it on him. Wizard hat. Yeah. I was too busy going like, 80s Batman. 90s Batman. Well, he is my favorite Batman. You know the fan service they're talking about in the film? I was the fan they serviced.

Yes, you were the fan, which is great. I was serviced. But he's old and alone because Alfred be dead. I don't know why I threw that to you. I was serviced. I'm glad for you. Bruce tells Barry that he ended up opening other timelines in the multiverse. Bruce declines to help

them locate Superman. The Barry sneak into the Batcave and do research on Bruce's computer. Barry gets annoyed with his younger self's immaturity and can't bring himself to admit why they went back in the first place because he doesn't want to say, Mommy's dead. Well, he's also mad at him. You got Mom and I didn't get Mom. Yes, that too.

It's that whole, like, you don't even know what you had. that's again why i think it's enough that he doesn't need a love story and that he gets to see his mom for the the last time i'm not saying there isn't lots more but i just like the love story as well fair maybe that's the space i'm in because my mom's dead and i'm like if i had one last moment with her that would be really incredible and i like for me that would be enough but also but then once you want to go on a date don't you have a don't you have a podcast called why don't you date me I do I'm completely kidding I was like I'm saying like maybe I'll have a new podcast called why is mommy dead why is mommy dead why is mommy dead is brought to you by MailChimp. So let's see.

Barry talks to Bruce, convinces him to help. And then Bruce dons the Batsuit once more and gives Barry a file. And then there's a Kryptonian prisoner in Siberia. We're skipping over a pretty awesome part where he opens up the room and there's like five awesome Batsuits. And that's the one that we know and love. I thought they were the same Batsuit. I thought it was all the same. Oh, this is such a heartbreak hotel for me. I feel like I made the movie

and I'm like, you didn't see the five Batsuits? No, I did. They were the same. But it was like he had all this, like a closet full of them. I thought those were just spares because I don't think the Batsuit changed

between Batman and Batman Returns. It changed a lot. One of them has goggles. One of them's like an air jump Batman. Did one of them have nipples and one didn't have nipples? No, that didn't happen until Schumacher showed up. They're all the classic style. Those were the Schumacher ones.

I love that one. Dear God in heaven. You didn't like Batman Returns? That's not Batman Returns. No, Batman and Robin. Batman and Robin. No, Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were horrible. They were...

I love them. No, they're insane. The Bat credit card? The shot of the ass? Nobody needed that movie. No. See, I don't like things. And I loved The Flash.

Which one do I say that to? All of them. All of them. I say it each time. So, okay. So the trio use the Batwing to fly to siberia and infiltrate the base they find a chamber which contains not kal-el but a young kryptonian woman kara zor-el i was like come on why can't she be betty like why why do they have the same name

essentially because kal-el kara's wait so everyone's looking at us like judy and yeah i think it's almost like it's all family names and it's like the family name comes first and you're the house of Kal-El or I don't know. It's something like that. Well, the heroes get her out of there, but Barry too. It sounds like I do know. I actually do know it's a different house.

I love that you did kind of know. I totally, oh my God, I totally tried to bail on it halfway through. It's the different house, so you're the house of Kala but I don't really know I feel like we hung out in high school just now that was really fun for me

damn I loved it so Barry too gets shot in the leg which was great so the guys return Kara back to Wayne Manor after learning that Zod

is on earth she puts on her super girl suit we're missing some things we could laugh about how much Hugh Way was in there. Why is weighing always coming up in these movies? Because in the Batman movies, when he shoots,

like he said to the ladies. That's just a joke about that. I think it's a callback to that. There's a lot of callbacks to that. I love that. But there's one specific callback that I did not like, which we'll get to. You want to get nuts?

Yes. The way he reads that line, because in the original, he's like, you want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. This was like, you want to get nuts? Let's get to. You want to get nuts? Yes. The way he reads that line because in the original he's like, you want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. This was like, you want to get nuts? Let's get nuts.

I don't think he would have felt earned if he did it because he's talking to the Joker in the first one. I know, but still like some kind of that, what was so brilliant about Michael Keaton was he didn't shy away

from the fact that Bruce Wayne is a little crazy. Oh, that's right. I agree. He is sitting on a lot of psychosis and he's barely keeping it together and that scene was great because it's like,

oh, I'm just as crazy as this other dude. Yeah. I agree. You want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. I think if he had yelled it, I would have been like, why is he yelling it?

Three friends talking in a safe cave. Yeah. That's like bringing Stanley Kowalski back for a movie and he's like, hey, Stella. Stella. come over here if he had screamed it could have been funny if he had yelled it

and then they're like what and they go oh he's crazy oh yeah you convinced me you're right if they called it out they would in this movie it feels like also where did Supergirl's outfit come from yeah she goes and puts it on it fits perfectly it is i agree it just shows up in the back that's magic yeah that's magic that was even that was a pretty big yeah please pay

no mind sasha callie is that her name great she was in a different movie i felt like than everybody else though it was she's so serious real yeah would you say she's from a different movie, I felt like, than everybody else, though. But she's so serious. Real brooding. Would you say she's from a different planet than everybody else? Because that sounds like somebody was doing their job well. But well, she did a great job. I would say that. But Superman isn't a brooding. You know, Kryptonians are hopeful and sunny. I liked it.

It was like Billie Eilish from Krypton. It was Krypton's Eilish. I'm sorry, Bill E. from the house of Kal-El. Bill slash E. If I was a nerd, I would have cackled. That was a very good joke. That was such a good joke.

I'm Kal-El. I'm Bill E. It was good. It was a great joke. I'm glad we all had a chance to get nuts. So the guys return Kara back to Wayne Manor after learning Zod's on Earth. Oh, wait, you already read. Okay, so they got to recreate Lightning,

like in Back to the Future. Also, they keep talking about Back to the Future with... Eric Stoltz, which I love. So was he originally... He was originally in the movie. He was shot for two weeks on the movie. And there's footage of him. And the reason that they replaced him was he played it really serious and dark and brooding.

And they're like, does he know this is a comedy? And so they replaced, the only, there is one half second of Eric Stoltz in the movie when he punches Biff, that's his hand. Oh, that's crazy. That's interesting. What? Oh, wow. You got insert credit. Stoltz hand.

Michael J. Fox, the best. He's so good in that movie. I love Eric Stoltz, but they were right to replace him. Well, it's interesting because I'm really not familiar with him, and I feel like it's because he wasn't in that. My childhood missed Eric Stoltz. Oh no, he's done some great movies. Yeah.

Like genuinely great performances. Like what? I wonder if I've seen them. Like Mask, like The Water Dance, like Killing Zoe. He's great in his scene in Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction's hilarious. Yeah.

There's several scenes in Pulp Fiction. Yeah. Some Kind of Wonderful. Never seen it. This is a blind spot. Some Kind of Wonderful is a great John Hughes movie where Eric Stoltz is forced to choose

between the insanely hot Leah Thompson and the insanely hot Mary Stewart Masterson, which every high school kid can relate to. Wait, what movie is that? Being at that crossroads.

Some Kind of Wonderful. Some Kind of Wonderful was like his... It was like Little Women. It was like his apology for Pretty in Pink. Never seen that either. Where she doesn't go with Ducky.

Oh, I like Pretty in Pink. But isn't that crazy that he was in a movie with Lea Michele? Or it's not Lea Michele. Sorry, what's her name? Lea Thompson. Lea Thompson, who would have been his mom in Back to the Future. But she played his love interest. Wow, that's fun.

Isn't that weird? He kind of plays his love interest in Back to the Future. I know, she really wants him. I know. Spoiler! Hey, that's a good movie. I know, she really wants him. I know, spoiler! Hey, that's a good movie. So then they strike him with lightning, and this is pretty intense. Oh, this was so intense.

Oh my God, he's like, give me another one! And Batman's like, oh no, it's not working. And then Supergirl flies him up to the sky where there's more lightning. Loved it, and it worked, and you get the callback of, I got you. From what? Oh my God.

Because he saves her. They're running out and he's holding her when she's frailing. He goes, I got you. It's very sweet. And then when she's holding him

in the lightning, she goes, I got you. Oh, in the same movie but on a callback. I thought you were referencing a different movie. No, no, no,

but it's mirrored. I see. Why is she helping him? Because he helped her. Well, there is that line from the Christopher Reeve movie which I got you. You got me.

Who's got you? Oh. We haven't seen Superman. Oh, my God. I don't want to. Now, that's a superhero movie. Oh, the first Superman with Christopher Reeve is fantastic. Wow.

But I did watch Lois and Clark with the Dean Cain, who is not in this movie. Hmm. I wonder why. Me too. Is he bad? He's a little right-leaning and has some questionable things to say. But you know,

everyone's got an opinion. Yeah, sure do. So Kara confronts Zod. Blee-blah-bloo-blah-blah. Zod confirms that KL is dead. And then Supergirl, she's gonna fight. And then everybody's gonna fight and then everybody fighting and then Batman makes

a sacrifice crashing his jet into Zod's jet but then does not manage to destroy it so the Barry's run back in time to save their allies they get stuck in their speed force because every timeline always results in Kara and Bruce's death and Zod destroying Earth

so Barry becomes more and more angry until they're met by the evil speedster that started the mess, who just happens to be a much older Barry that has not stopped trying to fix everything. And who's gone insane. And casting gave up. Because young Barry looked like Barry,

Barry looked like Barry, and then old Barry didn't look like Barry. Yeah, young Barry was cast really well. It took me a moment to be like, who is that? But then i thought that was very mythic very archetypal kind of classic like a greek myth like and he's been there yeah forever trying to change the past i was like oh that's a nice little thing for us to

project like when when you get obsessed and you can't let go of something but why was why was old berry all dusty and what was all that stuff on him? I think, well, remember he got the piece of metal in him? I think that kept happening. Oh, I see, I see. Stuff like that kept happening. The weight of centuries built upon him like rust or barnacles. Time is in construction. Time barnacles.

Time barnacles. This feels like a lot of why they made this movie. Multiple worlds and timelines begin to collide featuring different flashes teddy sears as jay garrick and alternate batman adam west wait who's teddy sears and jay oh that's different flashes oh yeah yeah alternate super girl weird frisbee on his head and you get to see nick cage i love nicholas cage many alternate supermen george reeves christopher reeve, and obviously Nicolas Cage. I didn't know Nicolas Cage was a superman.

Me neither. No, no, no. He was supposed to be. He was supposed to be, and the suit was leaked. It was Tim Burton. It was Tim Burton was making it. John Peters was producing it. Whoa.

And everyone wanted it. And John Peters' whole thing was, he's got to wear black. He has to fight a giant spider. Those were his two notes to Kevin Smith, who was writing that movie. Oh, wow. And so the movie never got made. The Giant Spider ended up in Wild Wild West, which is the only good thing about that horrible movie. That weird steampunk Giant Spider was brilliant.

Will Smith turned down The Matrix. Turned down The Matrix. Wild Wild West. Wow. Although I give Will Smith credit. He goes, the reason that I turned down The Matrix is why The Matrix is successful. Because it wouldn't have worked with me. It's Keanu made it work.

It was supposed to be him as Neo and Val Kilmer as Morpheus and he goes the fact that I turned it down and they went with Keanu and Lawrence

that's what made it and he actually understands that oh sometimes you turning down a movie ends up being a good thing. Yeah. Because some problems

can't be solved. Oh. You have to just walk away. That's the theme of this movie. That scene, I'm sorry, but that scene where he goes into the alternate carousel of timelines

that was the death of the multiverse. And I'm actually kind of glad it happened. The multiverse has been done so badly in movies. Well, what about across the universe Spider-Man? Okay, those the two Spider-Man movies and Everything Everywhere All at Once are the only movies

that have dealt with the idea of a multiverse. And also a very tiny low-budget movie called Primer really explores, here's what happens when you start messing with the timeline. That was, he literally comes out, stands there, and just looks at stuff, and they look at him,

and then he leaves. It's literally like that chandelier sketch from SNL. Look at this one. Look at this one. It was the laziest fan service I've ever seen. Hey, you fans, you like the multiverse. There's Christopher Reeves. There's all multiverse. There's Christopher Reeves. There's all of them.

There's George Reeves. There's Adam West. Oh, remember Nicolas Cage was going to make a movie? There's one. There's the Supergirl movie, whoever that actress was. Helen Slater. Helen Slater. There they all are.

And then nothing happens. And then he just leaves. No, it is. It's such a blip. Oh, my God. That it's like. This fan felt service. I also didn't like Christopher Reeves in it because he's dead.

A lot of those people are dead. This is so questionable, isn't it? Yeah. I think it's really gross. It's kind of like a thing that's happening so much now with AI and everything. I don't like it. I think it's. And Christopher Reeve had said things before he passed about oh I hope

they don't do some because they did that commercial with him like walking and I think he was like that's before he died yeah before he died and then he was like

yikes because he was about like the possibilities of you know repairing spines and medical signs yeah but if you didn't repair a spine

don't do it exactly that's wild and then so then to have him in this movie where he had said, like, I'm very uncomfortable with him doing stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah.

That's so, that is wrong. And I don't think they got Helen Slater's permission either. But unfortunately, when you do movies like that back then, I bet the contracts they signed were like. Right. And also, they weren't thinking of this kind of technology. Well, it didn't exist. I mean, there's nothing like that.

So it's, yeah. And that's what we all were striking about. Wait, are we about to strike again? Yeah. Yeah. By the way, I see Helen Slater like every other day on the trail that I hike. She hikes this trail. And she has turned into this gorgeous gray-haired hippie goddess.

Wow. Just out on the trails like, there's Supergirl. That's Supergirl? Yeah, yeah. I didn't mean to say super, but it is Supergirl. that's super cool yeah I didn't mean to say super but it is super cool

Supergirl is where she and Faye Dunaway fight over a young hunk who if I'm not mistaken is played by Hart Botchner

who famously played Ellis in Die Hard the guy the Hans Booby oh yeah

I saw that yeah yeah the coke head I think he is a super girl. It's like the things that come up on this. Hans,

Boobie. Hans, Boobie. I'm your white knight. God, what a great performance. It's fun to watch at Christmas.

I watched it on Christmas Eve with my wife and daughter. My daughter had never seen it. All my friends have seen Die Hard. I'm like, let's watch it.

She thought it was great. It's fun. It's really fun it takes place on Christmas 90s unnecessary nudity in any movie oh they were both last shot

when they no no no Die Hard has the we gotta have a couple bare boobs just put them and it is so

it is it's like when you look up perfunctory in the dictionary there should be a screen grab of that scene like here they are. The terrorists are just clearing rooms and somebody's having sex in one of the rooms.

Oh, yes. I remember. Yeah. It's just like, it's the 90s. And there it is. I also will say, even though that movie is great, Bruce Willis is doing something that to me now seems like really like, I don't know how to say it. It's very outdated. It's like, he's the good guy and he's like emotionally unavailable.

All these things that we value now were not values then. So he's like, I don't know. My wife works here. I don't know what she does. And we're rooting for him. He's like, she wanted the movie. I just want to be a cop. And we're like, but she can have a life too.

Yes, that did not age well. But you know what aged really, really well and what was really startling when you first saw that movie in the 80s was he's the lone guy up against the terrorists and he first calls the police, then he calls the fire, he does everything he can to not be involved in the movie because he's like, they have rocket launchers, I have one gun. And up to that point, it had been Stallone and Schwartz, I will do this myself. So to see someone

actually acting like a real person the way you would act it actually upped the stakes yeah I love that sorry keep going

I had to go off about that was the we got to see the death of the multiverse in movies they did it so badly that it's like we're done leave it to the

Spider-Man people Phil Lord leave it to him and we're done. Leave it to the Spider-Man people. Phil Lord. Leave it to him and his crew. And that's it. Yeah. Sorry. It just felt like it was kind of plopped in there.

But it also felt like it was definitely like a goal of the. I think you're complaining about a plop of ice cream. Like dropped into a toilet plop. You guys are at a children's birthday party going like, was this pinata earned? But was it? You know what it is? We're all so spoiled. As a parent, I'm taking away your Disney Plus, I'm taking away your Max.

Six months, then you've got one superhero movie. That sounds good. And you'll thank me. You need a dopamine detox. Oh no, we're gonna have one. Don't worry. Our next season. Yeah, yeah. It'll be just books. We're just sitting. Reading. And then instead of reading it, you show the movie or the book.

But weirdly enough, they do do one cool thing with the multiverse in this movie, which is they show the effect on a person if they discovered there was a multiverse. And that when they discover Batman, Michael Keaton has gone nuts because he has learned about the multiverse. He's like, so everything we do is pointless? Like there's a million versions? And he's just grown a beard and he's like, so everything we do is pointless? Like there's a million versions and he's just grown a beard and he's just eating spaghetti because he's gone crazy.

Which is actually how you would react if you found out there were multiple versions of you. And nothing matters. And nothing matters. You're like, so why are we doing any of this? I don't know. I would go visit different Nichols just to see if I'm married in any multiverse. That part seems kind of fun.

When Barry like or sad when Barry meets Barry I feel like they there's like there's almost this like uncomfortability that I wanted there to be just sort of like great I know you. Like it's like it should be the most comfortable meeting of a person that you've ever had.

I know you better than anyone. I don't know, but that... I would have appreciated maybe a little bit of that. But okay, so this is the moment we're all waiting for where he returns to the supermarket to take the tomato can from Nora's cart. He talks to her before beginning to cry

and she consoles him and Barry takes the time to admire his mother one last time before making the switch. He then returns home to his timeline, but not before noticing the security camera at the store. Barry shows up late for Henry's trial. His lawyer brings up new footage that has been enhanced thanks to Barry moving the cans from the bottom

shelf to the top. This effectively proves his father's alibi and his innocence, allowing him to go free. After the trial, Barry gets a call from Bruce congratulating him as he's pulling up to the courthouse, and Barry's shocked to see that this is not the same Bruce he knows because he's now played by George Clooney

cut to me alone like a touchdown I'm like YES it's fun the way things are affected and now it's this guy he did change the past and then you you get it. Also, shout out to Banana Bees. I thought that was a good joke.

I also wonder if that was the way for DC Studios to go, we've got to get rid of Ezra Miller. Let's trap him in the Joel Schumacher universe. When they get new flashes, you're like, oh no. Ezra's still... They're just trapped in the... I don't know what to do. That's where they

ended up. What if he had pulled up and it was your version of Batman? I... Batman came out. I'm over here waiting. Wait, which one is that? And then all the nerds are like,

there is a YouTube series. Excuse me. There is a YouTube series. Hello, Ezra. I called him Ezra. Hello, Ezra. I mean... It cuts to black.

They keep that all in. They're like, whatever. We widen and reveal my pants are falling down. Every part of this was wrong. I would have loved it. Well, this movie was a box office bomb. I'm sorry to tell you. With projected losses.

Not just a bomb. Maybe one of the worst in history. The Warner Brothers lost as much as $200 million. $200 million. Damn. $200 million. $200 million. Damn. $200 million. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.

That's a lot of money. That's a whole budget for a full-length Batman movie. A Flash 2. Yeah, yeah, you could do a lot with that. And on Rotten Tomatoes, the Flash holds an approval rating of 63%, which is actually pretty high, I would say, given the loss.

63%? What's the fan score? Jeez. I don't know. We don't know. That's what it is. You have a research packet, and you you lost. 63%? What's the fan score? I don't know. We don't know. That's what it is. You have a research packet and you couldn't get both scores? I don't know if you guys saw it.

Let's just copy this one and we're done here. I want to know how the audience feels. It might be the average of both. Is the popcorn spilled? I don't know. I don't know if you guys watched Godzilla Minus One last year, which was fantastic and emotional. And it cost $14 million to make it. Wow. I really do want you...

Amazing. Maybe you do it for your fans or something. Will you please email me your movies? I'd love to watch everything you loved. Sure. Oh, you mean like from last year? Just as a friend. If you would just tell me, because anything like that, I'm about it. This movie, last year,

this was like the opposite of The Flash where The Flash they could not have promoted it harder. It was literally everywhere, every banner above every website, Flash, Flash, Flash. Godzilla Minus One was made by Toho just for Japanese audiences. They released it for a week here, a week. Like this perfunctory

here it is and it was so got such rave reviews and all the screenings got so packed, they'd end up holding it over. Then they re-released it in black and white because the director was like, I wanted to make it in black and white. It's set in the late 50s in Japan. So quality will always get out, and you cannot force something bad on people. I'd like to say for the record that we've moved away from the audience score on Rotten Tomatoes because it's notoriously...

You're right, because there's a lot of people that will troll, they'll flood things. It's not good. Exactly. I didn't want you to think I was shouting you out. It is what you did. In another more literal way,

that is what I was doing. What drives me crazy about this movie is there was so much potential for it to be great. All of the pieces were there and they just, it was, I don't blame the director.

I don't blame the writer. I feel like they could not have had more boots on their neck. DC was freaking out. All their movies were failing. This is the one that's going to save them. And oh my God. Yeah.

Yeah. That makes sense, though. Well, here's some trivia. Michael Keaton's original Batman suit was infamously restrictive, forcing him to move his entire body to look around. And for this movie, the costume designers created a more flexible suit that allowed for a greater range of motion. I know it wasn't him, but I was loving the way he was moving. Well, when Keaton tried it on, he insisted it be made stiffer.

I love that. That's fun to be like, let me help, it helps my performance. And that's how he does it. I have a trivia. What? Nicolas Cage was told that when they captured his face,

he was watching Krypton be destroyed. So he was like, I did it all emotional. And then like in the movie, he's fighting a spider. Wow. So at the movie, he was like, I did it all emotional. And then in the movie, he's fighting a spider. So at the movie, he was like, what? He was very confused. That's so weird.

That's not what I did. They didn't know where it was going. They're like, just pretend something big. You know what's really weird? There's a movie called Teen Titans Go to the Movies. It's animated based on the Teen Titans show that's on Cartoon Network. And that, where Nicolas Cage voices Superman in that. And that is also a great piss take on the multiverse and on all that stuff.

But it's almost like Deadpool for kids. It's a total kids movie. It's so smart, especially making fun of superhero movies where the whole movie is about how why doesn't robin have his own movie and they're and they're at all these premieres of like finally and there's a movie just about the utility belt there's a movie just about he's like how is there not how do i not have a movie and he's trying to figure it out and but it it you know again missed opportunities where a children's animated movie ran better with the jokes. Yeah.

I remember Joseph Gordon-Levitt was teased as Robin. And then they were just like, babe. No, yeah. Also, because Nolan was like, I'm never doing Robin. Yeah. Tom Cruise was one of the first people to see this film, having been sent a copy of it

months before its theatrical release. He loved it so much, he called director Andy Muschietti to congratulate him. So you can call Tom. Me and Cruise, baby. I was just, I had to check myself before I wrecked myself yesterday with another parent in town.

I was getting very emotional how he could not like the Mission Impossible movies. And I was like, and he was like, they're garbage. And I was like like biting my tongue. That, that, those Mission Impossible movies, however you feel about Tom Cruise, that dude And he was like, they're garbage. And I was like, biting my tongue. Those Mission Impossible movies, however you feel about Tom Cruise, that dude is showing. He is the last thing we have to a Buster Keaton or a Jackie Chan where it's like, he's almost dying. Not for one stunt, a bunch of them.

There's a car chase in the new Mission Impossible that puts that chase at the beginning of this movie with all the CGI and the surfing on the ground where there are real stakes. There's real physics, real gravity. I know. How does he do that? Oh, God. They almost, you know. I agree. T-Cruise is a, I mean, the whole movie he's saying to Matt Damon and Keanu, like, do that. Yeah, here we go.

And that's good for everybody. Yes. It's like Tarantino makes P.T. Anderson better. P.T. Anderson makes Wes Anderson better. Beach Boys made the Beatles better. You need to keep hitting against each other. Cruz is, he's like growth hormone for creativity. Yeah, but like the work that goes into that stuff,

and again, it's mostly practical effects. Yeah, I agree. I love practical. You can do practical in superhero movies. There's a way to do it. James Cameron, very famously, when he was going to do Spider-Man, he never did it. He wanted to use Cirque du Soleil people. Oh, wow.

For the swinging because he wanted it to look real and make the physics real. I would see a James Cameron Spider-Man. Yeah. Because I love Avatar! Do you? And Avatar is all practical. There's no CGI. You can go there.

They went to that planet and shot that stuff. That tree was real. Avatar 2? He just shot that whole thing on his phone. He just went out there, okay guys, go. And they just shot it. Act like I'm not here. It was amazing. Well, okay. We need to take a quick break. We'll be back with a little more about The Flash and Batman

when we return. We're back. Holy Batman, Batman. All season long. We've rated each Batman on the definitive newcomer's Batman scale. We've rated each Batman on the definitive newcomers Batman scale. We've had people use a QR code and rate Batman on the scale. We now see all these Batmans and we

have the answer for who are the best Batman. And the categories were preparedness, detective ability, voice gravelliness, sadness, hotness slash horniness. And that can be interpreted as if you're horny or if they're horny it's however you see it

it's for you you are literally adding you're bringing a wine taster's viewpoint to Batman I love it

is mouth feel on there I think it goes under horniness there you go nice our amazing producers

Anya and Allie, have crunched the numbers, figured out some averages, and we are so excited to share the season's final results on the most Batman, Batman to ever,

Batman. So coming in last is George Clooney with a 47.2% for Batman and Robin. And that's not your fault, George. You were trapped in a horrible movie.

Yeah. Even if he had literally delivered a friggin' Brando and streetcar performance, it still would be at the bottom of the list. It has nothing to do with you, George. It was the one casino you couldn't break out of. I'm sorry, George. I don't know why I'm doing kind of a Trump. That was a little weird.

Sorry, it was a little weird. You're in a casino. You can't break out of Trump Casino. Our security is too good. Brad Pitt would catch you. Casey Affleck, you're going down. We'll You're in the casino. You can't break out of Trump Casino. Our security's too good. Brad Pitt would catch you. Casey Affleck, you're going down. We'll get you in the other funny one. What's his name?

Is that Steve Zahn? I don't know who Steve Zahn is. Bernie Mac? I'm being waved down. It's Bernie Mac. He's waved down. I'm being waved down. It was Bernard Mac.

Love Bernard Mac. Great in Bad Ant. Bad Ant-a? Bad Ant-man. Bad Ant-Man? Paul Rudd is a mall center. Ben Affleck scores 52% in Batman v Superman. Ben Affleck is above Clooney?

Yeah. Yes, above. Okay. I can't believe Affleck's not in Batman. Adam West's Batman from 1969 has a 52.32%. Michael Keaton, 61.5%. Christian Bale scored a 63.8 for The Dark Knight Rises. Will Arnett scored a 71% in Lego Batman.

Okay, so Lego Batman's on the list, but not my Batman. You just came here to insult me. Oh, let's include Arnett. Thank you for wanting to share. Is the Lego Batman video game actor on this list? He might be. Scratch it, don't say it. Kevin Conroy got 75.8% in The Mask of the Phantasm.

Who did? Kevin Conroy, the voice in The Mask of the Phantasm. Well, I mean, that's the voice template. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we understand. Wait, that's animated series?

Yeah, but Kevin Conroy, God, that voice. Yeah. Val Kilmer scored 76% in Batman Forever. Wait. Val Kilmer is that high? He's very hot.

He's hot. He's hot. Oh, okay. Well, I guess you're right. Hot is horniness. You have to factor these things in. So he won on the swimsuit. Yeah, exactly.

Michael Keaton scored a 78.2 in 1989's Batman. Christian Bale, 81.2% for The Dark Knight. Robert Pattinson scores an 89.1% in The Batman. Christian Bale is this season's highest scoring Batman with a 98% average for Batman Begins! And we loved that one.

We loved Batman Begins. This does make sense. I feel really happy with this winner. Yay! I feel like Dark Knight Bale is hotter than Batman Begins. Nope. No. We loved Batman Begins more than Dark Knight Bale is hotter than Batman Begins. Nope, no. We loved Batman Begins more than Dark Knight. Not the movie, just how he looks in it. No, his performance, his brooding Batman.

Very brooding. Christian Bale, we want to congratulate you specifically for your amazing performance in 2005's Batman Begins. Yes, Christian Bale! I do. I'll give Robert Pattinson credit, though. He leaned the hardest

into Batman, the psychotic Travis Bickle. Even when he's not Batman. And I get that reference. Yeah, but even like I wouldn't have weeks ago. Oh, really? Oh, you now get it. I now get it. But he also, even when he's Bruce Wayne, it's like, hey, something's wrong with that dude.

I agree. I watched that the first time and I really didn't like it, and then I had to again, I was like, hey, something's wrong with that dude. I agree. I watched that the first time and I really didn't like it and then I had to again, I was like, I'm watching myself. I wanted something different and I watched it again and I was like, oh, I was wrong. Yeah. This is why I think you should have to watch them twice before you review them. Well, we have a fun little announcement for our listeners.

You can pre-order an exclusive Holy Batman Batman t-shirt with all of our rankings and you can buy it in a bundle with a ticket to purchase or purchase separately but it will be on sale through the vod period of the live stream so if you want to get it with your ticket you can get that or you can get it separately get your tickets to the live stream get your teas at moment.co slash newcomers it's gonna be so fun it's gonna be so fun and this is a taran killam segment. How did the score score?

I'm going to give it Wait, do we give a I think we'll just have an opinion on the score. The score was by Benjamin Wallfish. I didn't think about the music. Wallfish? Yeah. What? Benjamin Wallfish. That sounds like an alias. My name? Benjamin

Wallfish. That's what you give to a homicide cop when he comes to the Benjamin Wallfish. And then the rookie cop tells the lead detective, he's like, well, Benjamin Wallfish. Who? That was him! Get him! You thought his name was Wallfish?

He looked at the wall, he looked at the fish. By the way, Taron Killam, a great comic book writer with a comic out called The Illegitimates that is one of those brilliant concepts. Really? It's a James Bond type. All of his bastard kids that he's sired with all of the hot Bond women have grown up and

are forming a team. And it's brilliant. It's so well written. We did a sketch on my show where I was James Bond. We shot for shot. It doesn't matter which one, but it was Daniel Craig. Anyway, they're about to have sex in the shower, and she goes, where's the condom? Because every time I watch those movies, I'm like, we're just going out there raw, dog?

Yeah, exactly. But this is like he's got the girl that he had with the girl from Live and Let Die. But not the same people by name, but it's clearly all those. It's so good. That's a great idea. Anyway, sorry, go ahead. It's okay. No, I feel like the score washed over us as we were watching. Didn't notice a

single song. The comedy and all the things. Like, did he have a running song? I don't know. Oh, I did. No, for The Flash. I did notice Wonder Woman we're talking about the Flash's score

but yeah well they used the Wonder Woman leitmotif right they used her little and they played the Batman and then they played

the old Danny Elfman thing oh I didn't even notice that the only thing I noticed was Wonder Woman yeah I did notice that because that one sounds like a Listerine commercial. Wait a minute.

Were there any nods to the John Williams 1978 score? For Superman or Supergirl? It feels like there had to be. I don't think so. Yeah, probably not. That might be too expensive. Yeah, you're right. Very hard to hum the Super...

Let's see if you can do it. Can you hum... Don't do it yet. The theme, John Williams from Superman, and then the theme from Star Wars. In either order. Ooh, that's a hard test. This is Superman.

Okay, Star Wars. Very good. You know, I find it's harder to go from Star Wars. Very good. You know, I find it's where that came from. Really? 1950s movie called King's Row. If you listen to it after the show, call it up on YouTube and watch it. You'll go, oh my lord. Someone's got a lawsuit.

It's a copy-paste. Or is it a sample? Oh no. Not a sample. There was a Chuck E. Cheese commercial in the 90s that went like this. New now, wow, Chuck E. Cheese is, have you heard? Which is do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Oh, my God. It was really fun.

Wow. New now, wow, Chuck E. Cheese is, have you heard? I like to mash them. The sky was golden. Oh, my God. One's about meth, though. One's about meth. A 90s dance song that samples the theme song to Green Acres. Is that a TV show?

Uh-huh. Well, there's a woman who sings. Wait a minute. Wait, that's right. I just saw a YouTube clip about this. He said we took the... Wait a minute. It's her when she goes... Yeah.

But it's a little thing. Oh, it's from D. Light's Groove is in the Heart. Oh, they do. And they sample Eva Gabor going... Yeah, it's her voice. That's from Green Anchor. That's amazing. That's her.

What? That's an iconic part of the song. I know. And it's from the Green Anchor theme. That's amazing. That's really funny. I love that. I know. And it's from the Green Acres theme. That's amazing. That's really funny. I love that. Friends having fun.

Oh, my God. Well, it's time for our segment called Five Kapows, where we review the film. So we read reviews from Letterboxd, and we also will each give our one-sentence review ourselves of the film and a star rating. So if you don't know, Letterboxd is a social platform where people can write reviews of films. Okay. We are on there at Newcomers if you want to see all of our reviews of all the movies we've watched.

This comes from J. Sam's 993. Two stars. Watched on a cruise. Everyone seemed to like it. That's the review of The Flash. And this other one, two stars. He throws all of his other members of the cruise under the bus because he gives it two stars. He goes, they seem to like it.

These fucking idiots. That is everything that I just I have such an issue with that it's like two stars everyone seemed to like it because what is the two stars is like don't you dare

embarrass me have some courage say I liked it too five stars you need to go find jsams993 and let them know I'll say

I love you Jay your opinion is worthy four stars from Sim Run hot take but Ezra Miller flash was good and I enjoyed the characterization so there you go does anyone want to give their one sentence review or star rating of the film anyone want to begin

yes can I give mine yes please one star goes nowhere fast three words that's it. Hang on. Can I say that in a Truman Capote voice?

Yes. One star goes nowhere fast. You scooped me on a speed pun because I'm going to say five stars, two and a half hours

went by quickly. Oh, wow. I also want to say That's not reviewing. That's talking. No one. You don't see the world as it is, you see the world as you are, including this movie. That's my review.

Lauren. That's very nice. I'm going to say, I'm going to give it two stars. Did you see it on a cruise? I did, and everyone seemed to like it. Two stars, I liked the personal storylines more than the superhero storylines, but overall, good performances

throughout. It's like a three-star review. It really does. You know, the stars, I struggle with stars. I really do. Because I go, well, if I give this this many stars and that doesn't mean that. I try to keep it. If I was hosting this show, I would give this many stars, then that doesn't mean that. So it's like, I try to keep it, you know.

See, if I thought, if I was hosting this show, I would give it four stars because I would want somewhere to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. See, I need to balance out because I've said things are bad, but I'm like, would I rather watch it late to be white? Yeah, you are a guest. That is a five-star review that you've given it the entire time. I think in a bubble, five stars. That's right.

If I had to come back and then we watch Dark Knight and I'm like, five stars, you mean so it's as good as Flash? Oopsies! But you would say it's for a different reason. I'm going to give it three stars, I think. I did like the mom storyline.

Ezra Miller did an incredible thing where I really didn't like them at the beginning but by the end they kind of won me over. But also, Ezra stop body slam incredible thing where I really didn't like them at the beginning, but by the end, they kind of won me over. But also, Ezra, stop body slamming women in bars. It was a lady, too? Yeah. And stop kidnapping underage kids. Yeah, and don't have a whole commune.

You gotta, hey, stop being a rascal. A rascal. That's quite a way to put it. Remember that rascal Charles Manson quite a way to put it. So we also. Remember that rascal Charles Manson? That guy was a sketch. He's silly. He was a panic.

He was a panic. What was he up to? So we also love to get read reviews. Sorry. Wait a minute. A rascal. Okay. Go ahead.

No, I was going to say we also love to read reviews of our own program. Oh. Miss Shelley 1992 gave us five stars and said, I have chronic migraines and haven't been able to watch TV or movies for years without getting a headache. And the only thing that brings me joy is Nicole and Lauren giggling about Hobbits. Am I okay? Debatable. Do I love newcomers?

Absolutely. She is more than okay. Yes. This is the way to watch movies is to hear us talk about them. Please leave us a review on Apple Podcasts we pick one to read on the next episode and we also ask

that you rate us on Spotify it's just easy go click five stars go about your day or by these standards if you really liked it give it two stars

wow yeah if you're on a cruise even though you liked the characters and it worked and the actor won you over at the end. You know what?

Make it three. Two, three stars. Make it three. Two, three stars. Make it three. It was too cartoony. Make it three. I'm editing my review now.

And add to mine, too cartoony. Didn't like CGI. Well, you guys are the best. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you so much. This was a blast. This is my second appearance. Yes.

Please bring me back when you tackle some other franchise. We would love to. I mean, have you guys, especially with 2024 goggles on, have you watched the James Bond movies in order? No, we've never. No, this has come up, but we're not sure. That would be fascinating. It's probably coming for us.

Yeah, it makes me so sad to think about yeah we have a big undertaking I mean yes we'll have you back for sure and maybe it'll be

James Bond but we got something in our pipeline right now that I'm really excited about alright don't spoil it what do you guys want to plug? don't get out of here you gotta plug

I thought you were gonna say plug plug well you can go to your movie theater and see Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, which I appear in. And later in the year, well, next month, volume two of Minor Threats, my comic book, comes out from Dark Horse.

That's awesome. That'll be early April. That's fun. And then, and it's still showing right now on Apple TV is the series Manhunt, in which I play Detective Lafayette Baker with the biggest, bushiest, most glorious beard you've ever seen. Ooh, I love it. Is it natural or was it glued?

Oh, it was so glued on. When you see this thing, you're like, Hope you don't have Keaton's guy. Yeah, that's it. Hope you don't have Keaton's guy, Patton, I'll tell you. We used up so much spirit gum, I had to use that beard for his. I think you got all the good beard stuff. That's great.

Real quick, I just want to say, watch my special, please. It's on Netflix. It's called I Am Not For Everybody. And please listen to my podcast. Maybe start with Lauren and Cole or Patton. So are you saying everybody should watch I Am Not For Everybody? Yeah, everybody should watch I Am Not For Everybody. A paradox.

Because we need to find who exactly it is not for. We need the data that's my audience score okay great we'll go watch all those things we did it we'll be back next week

with our last episode of the season newcomers presents improvised batman our leaf our leaf strife finale our live stream finale

and it's gonna go better than that we're thriving leaf strife finale that's the name leaf strife checks into hotels in for privacy Live stream finale. Oh, wow. It's going to go better than that. We're thriving. It's live stream finale. That's the name Lev Stryver checks into hotels in for privacy. I'm live stream finale.

Get your tickets now. It's going to be great. Bobby Moynihan, Taryn Killam, and us improvising Batman. We're going to have a good time. That's going to be amazing. The four of you improvising. I literally don't know what will happen. Me either.

I'm really excited. Yeah, it's going to be really fun. So we'll see you there. Thanks so much, you guys. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Newcomers is a production of HeadGum Studios. Our producer is Ali Khan. Our executive producer is Anya Khanofskaya. The show is edited, mixed, and mastered by Faris Manji, who also composed our theme song.

Follow us on Letterboxd, at Newcomers, and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. We might just read it on the next show. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na. Bye. That was a Hiddem Original.