Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Lego Batman Movie (w/ Sam Richardson)
Episode Date: March 12, 2024This week, Lauren and Nicole watch The Lego Batman Movie (2017) and experience the auditory gift that is Will Arnett’s Batman. They are joined by very special guest Sam Richardson (Veep, Th...e Detroiters, The Afterparty, Werewolves Within, Champaign ILL) who deftly catches and explains all of the references to Batman movies of yore. Along the way, they discuss the hilarity of eating an entire Lobster Thermidor alone, the Dickens-esque morality journey Batman goes on this time around, and, of course, the power of friendship. Follow Sam: Instagram, TwitterNext week's movie: The Batman (2022)Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod!Follow the podcast on Letterboxd.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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It must be great to be Batman.
Batman, we love you!
Thank you. I'm blushing super hard under the mask.
Batman!
Pray God.
Thanks, Batman!
I can only imagine he's going home right now to party the night away,
surrounded by friends and lady activewear models.
Hey computer, I'm home.
I'm home.
One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do.
Master Bruce, your greatest fear is...
Snakes? No.
Clowns?
No.
It's being a part of a family again.
No, now it's snake clowns because you put that idea in my head.
Sir, you need to take responsibility for your life,
and it starts by raising the young orphan you adopted.
I thought I was being sarcastic.
Hello, secret camera. We built this city.
What?
It's the Batcave.
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Look, it's the Bat-sub!
Don't touch that!
The Bat-sapling!
Don't touch that either!
It's the Bat-kayak!
Do I get a costume?
I love it!
But his pants are just a little tight.
I got an idea.
It's better!
I can only look you in the eyes right now.
Hi, Batman!
No way!
Come catch your greatest enemy.
Superman is my greatest enemy.
Superman's not a bad guy!
And I say that I don't currently have a bad guy.
I am fighting the greatest enemy.
I am fighting the greatest enemy.
I am fighting the greatest enemy.
I am fighting the greatest enemy. I am fighting the greatest enemy. I am fighting the greatest enemy. I am fighting the greatest enemy. I am catch your greatest enemy. Superman is my greatest enemy. Superman's not a bad guy.
And I say that I don't currently have a bad guy.
I am fighting a few different people.
I like to fight around.
Hi, Barbara Gordon, new police commissioner.
It's my dream for the police force to team up with Batman.
What?
Wouldn't that be better?
I hate everything you just said.
I'm falling!
Gotcha.
Nice.
Initialize master build.
Got it.
Here you go, father.
I need an elbow.
I need a macaroni.
Yes, we did it.
Pretty cool, huh?
Why did you build this thing
with only one sheet?
Uh, because last I checked,
I only had one butt.
Let's go defeat the Joker.
Woo!
We're going on a family trip.
I can wear my costume, too.
Well, luckily for us, you left your costume back in.
Rip!
Oh, no.
Under your clothes.
That's perfect.
Ooh. 🎵 The Lego Batman Movie!
Oh no.
Wow, we're doing it.
I'm Nicole Byer.
I'm Lauren Lapkus.
And this season we have been deeply covering the Batman movie.
Oh, so deep.
This is the 11th.
Problematic even. Oh God. I did a is the 11th. Problematic, even.
Oh, God.
I did a stand-up show where I brought up Batman and Robin.
Oh, no.
I would have nowhere.
This is what's wrong with us.
It's bad.
This is bad.
I've made jokes recently about both Batman and Star Wars, and I think I should be arrested.
Take her away.
This is the 11th episode of our sixth season, and we are working our way through movies
within the Batman universe with the help of fellow newcomers, super fans, and sometimes even people who have contributed.
Yeah, it's going to be 13 episodes culminating in a very exciting livestream episode!
We'll cover as much as we can to get an overview of the franchise, But guess what? We can't get to every dang thing. We can't.
But today we're going to be talking about the Lego Batman movie,
which is available with a subscription on Max and Prime Video.
And you can also watch it for a fee on Apple TV+, Google Play, and Vudu.
Yeah, and guess what?
Like always, we have a guest.
He's an actor, writer, comedian, and producer.
You've seen him on Veep, I Think You Should Leave,
After Party, Ted Lasso, and of course the show he co-created, Detroiters.
Welcome back
Sam Richardson!
Wow!
Wow!
Am I okay?
No. It's good. It's great.
That's great. Keep going.
Sam, okay, we can't wait to get into the
Lego Batman movie with you.
Are you a DC head?
I am.
I do love Batman specifically.
DC movies I like.
Yeah.
Do you like Superman?
He seems dumb.
He's not dumb.
He is the embodiment of all that is good.
Excuse me.
Except for in the one where he's bad.
Where he seems bad.
And that's the problem with those movies.
That's the only one we saw.
Yeah,
that's a bad take
on Superman.
Did you like
Batman v Superman?
I did not like
Batman v Superman.
Dawn of Justice
Ultimate Edition?
I can't believe
I remembered the name.
Wow,
you remember the whole thing.
It's incredible.
It's seared in your memory
for a long time.
Oh my God.
I did not enjoy that movie.
Okay, good.
What about the Lego Batman movie?
Loved that movie. There we go. Yay. Oh my God. I did not enjoy that movie. Okay, good. What about the Lego Batman movie? Loved that movie.
There we go.
Yay.
That's good.
It's the sweetest of the Batman movies.
It's very cute and sweet and funny.
It was.
And honestly,
it came at the right time
because I feel like we could get
all the jokes and stuff.
Like, if we had watched it earlier,
it probably wouldn't have hit.
I knew who Sauron was.
I know.
I know.
They mentioned Zod as well.
Yes!
I was like,
I know Zod.
I know about Zod, I have to say.
There's a lot of franchise references, not only Batman.
Yeah, there was a lot going on.
It's almost all references.
Yeah.
It's just joke.
Joke a second.
We did our homework.
We did.
So we got to understand things.
All right.
Well, I'm glad we actually liked something.
It's been a while.
I think we haven't liked something.
Well, we haven't liked the same thing in a very long time.
No, we haven't because I went off the rails with Batman and Robin.
Yeah, although we did like Batman Begins.
That's our favorite.
We did.
We love Batman Begins.
It's a great one.
It's a great one.
And I think we feel really like smart because we liked that one.
Yeah, we were like, we really like Christopher Nolan and his world building.
And that one was like a deep story with lots of good backstory.
A very realistic take on the Batman mythos.
Yes.
Mythos.
That's a good word.
Let's incorporate that.
Yeah, mythos.
Mythos.
People are like, hello.
And I'm like, mythos.
Might be mythos.
But I don't know.
It's okay.
Nobody likes mythos.
A mythos sounds like a Greek island.
And I prefer that.
Mykonos and mythos.
You just went there.
I did. It was nice. Mykonos and Mithos. You just went there. I did.
It was nice.
Ocean's beautiful.
It really was.
And not nary a child in sight.
I know you like them, but.
I do like children.
My own, specifically.
Did you jump off a boat?
I did.
Yeah, I thought I saw that.
I was like, no, what?
No, I definitely jumped off a boat.
I think you have to jump off a boat in the Greek waters.
You have to.
But yeah, this movie was so fun
And nice
It was really sweet
I still felt it was a bit long
And that's maybe a personal problem
That I have
It was an hour 40 minutes and I was like still?
We have movie left?
It felt like we could shave off 20 and we'd be good
I thought kids movie Feels like we can make this a little bit shorter.
Did you think it was too long?
I didn't think so.
Okay.
I hear from a question, what would you feel would be like the clippable moments?
You know what?
That's what's hard because everything's funny and cute or has a point.
So, yeah, it's hard to figure out what to cut.
But I was wishing it was shorter.
But also when I saw that it was an hour 44, I thought, oh, yay, it's only an hour 44,
because everything we watch is really long.
So Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition was three hours and two minutes.
Yowza.
That was too long.
I got to write a letter to Zach.
We didn't need the last two.
The last two minutes you don't need.
Didn't need.
Didn't need.
Who cares?
The dirt rose a little.
I'm still mad.
I know. Still mad. I know.
Still mad.
I know.
Would you want a Superman casket?
No.
Yeah.
Okay.
What kind of casket would you like?
A Batman casket.
Okay.
Wait, what kind of casket do you want, Lauren?
If I had to pick between those two?
No, just anything you like.
Barbie.
I think being ashes makes more sense.
I agree.
Burn me up.
Get a nice Barbie urn.
Yeah, you can do a lot with urns.
Urns could be anything.
That really opens it up.
Put me in a cookie jar.
Any shape, not just anything. Anything. That really opens it up. Put me in a cookie jar. Shape the more.
Any shape.
Not just box.
No.
I'll think about that later.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll be back with all the Lego Batman movie you can handle.
We're back with the Lego Batman movie.
It was released right before Valentine's Day on February 10th. Date movie!
Date movie, date night!
In 2017, it was written by a whole gang.
Seth Graham, Smith, Chris McKenna, Eric Summers, Jared Stern.
They said, John Whittington, get in here!
It was directed by Chris McKay.
And we are so grateful eternally to Wikipedia
for the help in putting together this summary.
Thank you so much.
It gets more general every time.
It used to be the Batman fandom wiki.
Now it, then it was like DC wiki. Now it's like DC wiki.
Now it's just wiki.
It's just Wikipedia.
And of course, donate to Wikipedia to help keep it alive.
Yes, keep it alive.
Even though everyone clicks the X on that.
Sure do.
So within the DC superhero dimension of the Lego multiverse,
Batman, voiced by Will Arnett, who I think is hilarious,
protects Gotham City and fights crime.
During his latest mission to stop the Joker,
voiced by Zach Galifianakis, also one of the funniest people,
and his team of villains from Destroying the City,
Batman succeeds but also hurts the Joker's feelings
by telling him he's not as important in his life
as he thinks he is, leading the Joker to seek
the ultimate revenge on him.
I loved this.
Wasn't that cute?
They had their breakup.
It was so cute.
Like, what are you talking about? I was like, but I hate you. It's like, we're not in a relationship. And I was like, oh, I get it. I loved this. Wasn't that cute? They had their breakup. It was so cute. Like, what are you talking about? I was like,
but I hate you. It's like, we're not in a relationship. And I was like,
oh, I get it. Yeah, yeah. This is
fun. You've had a breakup like that?
Sure have. Where I'm like,
you don't want to be with me?
We're not together. And I'm like, are you sure?
You're nothing to me. I'm like, what?
So,
the following day, Batman's
alter ego ego Bruce Wade
attends the city's
winter gala
hosted by
Mayor McCaskill
Mariah Carey
I caught that
I caught that
I didn't
I caught that
I thought
is that Mariah Carey
that I looked up
and I was like
that's wild
I didn't catch that
they didn't have her sing
that's so funny
I don't even think
she has that many lines
no
this wasn't in
the Wikipedia summary
and I was like how do we figure out how to put it in because I know that someone think she has that many lines. No. This wasn't in the Wikipedia summary, and I was like, how do we figure out how to put it in?
Because I know that someone will not know that.
I didn't know.
That's really fun casting.
And also just for her to be like,
you received the offer of the role of Mayor McCaskill
in Lego Batman.
She's like, great.
So funny.
What day is that?
She's like, great, I'll record it in my trailer.
Celebrating both the retirement of police
commissioner Gordon and the
ascension of his daughter Barbara
Rosario Dawson didn't catch that either
to replace him Wayne is
smitten by Barbara also during this scene
they had two Legos that looked like me
next to him
I didn't catch that I need to see them
there was like a curly haired black lady
standing next to him and I was like is that me need to see them there was like a curly haired black lady standing next to him
and I was like
is that me
that's like a face on me
I like when
first of all
I thought the Legos
look amazing
and like
the sort of like
different types of plastic
they're able to create
are so cool
and the way that
she like shakes her hair
when she gets out
and doesn't move
it's like
there's just so many
cute little
Lego jokes
I loved it.
I love it.
Look, our listeners may or may not have seen the film,
so I have to describe what a Lego is.
I'm here enjoying the description.
Different types of plastic they could create.
Well, they did do sort of that gritty plastic that's like on his helmet
that's like sort of textured
and then the skin.
Yeah.
It's great.
It's amazing animation
and I don't know how it's done
and I want to know more.
Wait, we skipped the part
where he goes home,
don't we?
Where he goes home
and he puts on his road.
His road?
When he hangs out at home.
I love that part.
Oh my God,
why can't I say robe?
Slow down.
I'm so excited
to talk about Lego Batman!
That was my favorite part, actually,
when he's watching
Jerry Maguire.
And he's laughing.
He's a freak. He's laughing at it.
I want to live in his house with him.
Me too!
He's bored. I like when he's eating by himself
in his moat.
He eats a fully shelled lobster
and you hear the crunches.
That made me laugh so hard.
Okay, back to this fucking gala.
So he's smitten by Barbara and this distraction results in him unwittingly agreeing to adopt
the enthusiastic orphan Dick Grayson played by Michael Cera, which is so funny.
It's a really cute character too.
Those big eyes.
I had those glasses. Oh, I loved it.
Wayne is then infuriated by Barbara's plans
to restructure the police to
function without the need of Batman. The Joker
crashes the party with his villain team.
The Joker surrenders himself to the police while
capturing almost all the villains for
the police in a fun little box, except for Harley
Quinn, which is Jenny Slate. With so many
villains incarcerated, Batman becomes desolate as gotham no longer requires his crime fighting
skills it's really funny like watching this after being so deeply entrenched in this world because
it is it is basically the same story over and over and over again yeah and i'm like this is
the silly one.
There were points where I was just like,
I wish I could be surprised in some way,
but I know that I won't be.
That is interesting that they keep making the same movie again and being like, you gonna come?
For a hundred years.
You gonna come?
And everyone's happy.
Everyone's like, okay, I keep coming.
Suspecting that the Joker's up to no good.
Oh, how could that be true?
Batman plans to steal a Phantom Zone projector
belonging to Superman.
Channing Tatum.
I didn't get that that was Channing Tatum.
Oh, I didn't get that either.
A device that can banish anyone to the Phantom Zone,
which houses some of the most dangerous criminals
in the Lego multiverse,
only for Alfred,
Ralph Fiennes,
good get, by the way,
to intervene
and advise him to take care of Dick.
Batman initially refuses, so Alfred allows Dick to enter the Batcave, appearing as Batman before Dick.
This sounds horny.
It does sound very horny.
Batman states that he is also adopting Dick and fosters Dick as Robin to help him in his scheme.
Batman and Robin recover the projector from the Fortress of Solitude, breaking into Arkham Asylum, and successfully send the Joker to the Phantom Zone.
Suspecting that the Joker wanted to be sent there,
Barbara locks up Batman and Robin.
While the projector is being seized as evidence,
Harley steals it back as part of the Joker's plan
and frees him, allowing him to return to Gotham
with all the multiverses villains he has recruited in the Phantom Zone.
Oh, including Scarecrow!
Because Benjik has told us. Oh, he the Phantom Zone. Oh, including Scarecrow. Because Manzoukas told us.
Oh, he did.
Yes.
And we forgot.
So he is Scarecrow.
Jusin Manzoukas.
The Riddler is Conan O'Brien.
Bane is Doug Benson.
Starstruck.
It's a character of Margo.
Two Faces.
Billy Dee Williams.
Oh, wait.
Catwoman.
Zoe.
Kravis.
Poison Ivy.
Poison Ivy.
How do I say Ricky?
Lindholm?
Lindholm, yeah. Oh, I got it right. Voldemort's Eddie Izzard. Greenison Ivy. How do I say Ricky? Lindholm? Lindholm, yeah.
Oh, I got it right.
Voldemort's Eddie Izzard.
Green Lantern, Jonah Hill.
Clayface, Kate Micucci.
Oh my God, I didn't realize
we know her in this.
Wow.
The Flash is Adam Devine.
King Kong is Seth Green.
Finally, Sauron is Jermaine Clement.
Who informs the Joker that Batman is Bruce Wayne,
which the latter mistakes as the two being roommates,
which made me laugh. The criminals
attack Gotham and take over Wayne Island.
This is this early in the movie? Realizing
that Gotham... I feel like we're late, dude. It's gonna be
wrapped up faster than one can believe. I know.
It was a quick
140. Realizing
that Gotham does need Batman after all,
Barbara releases Batman and Robin
and teams up with them and Alfred to stop
the new threat.
Although his teammates achieve some success in fighting the multiverse's villains,
Batman forcibly sends them away to get tacos and confronts the Joker alone,
fearing he might lose them just like his parents. Sam, what you might not know is that, or maybe you do from this podcast,
but we tend to read podcasts or read descriptions that take up three hours.
It's fascinating.
We cannot believe that we're almost done.
That we are flying through this.
Actually, the speed that we've been reading is based on how we usually have to read like 10 pages.
And so we're like, wait, it's about to be done.
It's a clip.
Y'all are quick.
We have to because normally.
The difference between the Batman fandom
wiki and the Wikipedia. Yeah, it's Batman fandom
wiki also gets very deep.
But you know, I also think with this type of movie, it's
harder to analyze because we're not really talking
about the... I mean, and we'll
get into all of it, but I mean, I just feel like
it's more surface, obviously. Yes.
Believing that Batman
is incapable of changing his ways, the Joker
sends him to the Phantom Zone before stealing the Batcave's stash of confiscated bombs to destroy Gotham.
Meanwhile, Phyllis, Ellie Kemper...
Didn't catch that either.
She had a fun part being a little light-up thing.
She did, a light-up Lego.
Is that a thing that exists anywhere else or no?
Do you know?
No, I don't believe so.
Okay, great.
I think they got tired.
And they were like, let's not make a Lego thing.
Let's just make it like a Lego that lights up.
It's just a Lego. She literally is just a Lego. I feel it's not make a Lego thing. Let's just make it like a Lego that lights up. It's just a Lego.
She literally is just a Lego.
I feel it's supposed to be like God.
Oh, yeah.
And so in Lego land, a Lego would be made in his own image.
Okay, it's deeper than I thought.
Who is the Phantom Zone's gatekeeper?
Shows Batman how he has mistreated Dick, Alfred, Barbara, and the Joker.
Batman accepts his greatest fear of being part of a family
and decides to change.
Batman's teammates return to the fight to help him,
but are endangered themselves.
I don't know where I added chooses.
Batman makes a deal with Phyllis
to temporarily return to Gotham
to retrieve the Zone's escaped prisoners
and arrives in time to save his roommates.
Teammates.
But they are his roommates.
Apologizing for them for leaving them
and requesting their help to stop the Joker.
They agree with Barbara taking on the Batgirl costume,
which I felt could have come earlier.
It could have came way earlier.
Also, this felt very much like,
not a Nightmare Before Christmas,
Christmas Carol, Christmas Time.
Oh, where he sees the Ghost Before Christmas.
Oh, is it the Christmas Carol?
It's Christmas Carol.
The Ghost Before Christmas? The Ghost Before Christmas?
The one Dickens?
Yeah, where it's like showing him his life being like, you know.
Yeah, there was this thing where they showed
the photo of him with his parents
in the moment before they're killed.
And then we see
them take a selfie and I was like,
it's just like that selfie. And then it was
and I was like, I'm so amazing. You then it was and I was like I'm so amazing
you're so smart
now who's the worst trans detective
but I thought
that was cute that he has a family because I
that's something we've missed in every movie
it never ends with any sort of like relationship
no he's never adopting
well I mean in Batman and Robin
Batman Forever oh Batman Forever and he
yeah he does get a teen.
Oh, the teen.
Because remember, Robin's whole family died while he was rolling a bomb into a river.
Right, right.
I don't know how you could have forgotten that, Lauren.
I want him to have romance.
He didn't make it clear that Barbara was a platonic friend here.
They were not going to do sex in the Lego universe.
Well, in the Lego universe well in the Lego universe
yeah
sort of admiration
yeah
and then it's like
how do Legos fuck
like they would get stuck
and then someone
would have to help them
I liked how we saw them naked
like
I mean that sounds so gross
whenever they would
change pants though
yeah and you saw like
little flush toes
it was so weird
it was very funny
also Robin's costume
with the little legs out
that made me laugh
and the glitter cape oh that Robin's costume with the little legs out, that made me laugh. And the glitter cape.
Oh!
That was funny.
So with the help from Joker's team,
who felt neglected by the Joker
when he refused to break them out of Arkham,
Batman and his team defeat the escaped multiverse's villains
and send them back to the Phantom Zone.
However, the Joker's bomb explodes,
tearing Gotham apart and the plates below the city.
Yeah, there's just plates underneath Lego City.
Batman convinces Joker to help him by telling him he gives him purpose to be the hero he is.
And with the help of every civilian and villain, they manage to save Gotham, chain-licking themselves together with their heads.
I really liked that.
That was very satisfying.
It was really cute.
Yeah.
They like link up head to foot.
Head to foot.
And create a chain across
where the bridge should be.
And that was very charming.
And I loved it.
In the aftermath,
Batman reveals to Dick
that he is Wayne Disguise,
then goes to return
to the Phantom Zone
to face the consequences of his earlier behavior.
Phyllis prevents Batman from entering the Phantom Zone
after realizing he's a hero
and seeing how he changed to save everyone.
Afterward, Batman gives the Joker
and the rest of the villains a head start,
knowing they will be no match for the Bat family.
I liked it.
It was cute.
I liked it.
It was very cute.
Have you seen other Lego films?
I have.
I saw the Lego movie, the first Lego movie.
I think I saw that one at some point.
I didn't see that.
I love that.
I went to the theater and saw that like three times.
Oh, three times.
I loved it so much.
So how many movies are there before this happens?
I think this was the second one.
Then they did Lego Movie 2.
Oh.
But Lego Batman was a character in Lego Movie.
Right. Oh, I see, I see. I think I saw that one. Okay. But Lego Batman was a character in Lego movies.
I think I saw that one, and it was very, I think it was, from what I remember first,
Everything is Awesome is the song that really gets stuck in your head.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
But it's like really cute how they establish the whole Lego world.
And then, I mean, this gets to play on everything.
They've already established all the fun Lego bits, so they don't really have to do that
as much, and then they can do all the Batman jokes.
I liked the song
at the end a lot.
The song was really cute.
I stayed till the end.
I stayed.
I stayed.
I was in bed.
I also stayed.
I watched it till the end.
I stayed on my couch
through the credits.
I thought,
I was curious
if it was going to be a scene
or if it was going to be
important to something
I needed to know
but it wasn't.
It wasn't at a time.
Great.
Yeah. Just friends or family. Yeah. Yeah wasn't at a time. Great. Yeah.
Just friends or family.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I really liked it.
It was sweet.
Such a nice movie to be like, yeah, you don't have to do everything on your own.
Yeah.
Call a friend.
Yeah.
I watched like the last half with my daughter who's two and she was really into the whole
Godzilla King Kong craziness.
We watched Frankenweenie like every day.
She loves the movie Frankenweenie, which I think might be completely inappropriate.
But it's really cute.
And there's a turtle that gets made humongous into it.
And then she just always calls it.
So she calls the movie Big Turtle.
And she was calling this Big Turtle 2 because she wasn't saying the number two.
She was like, Big Turtle 2.
There's a big turtle also.
Like I want. And then like she wanted to watch Big Turtle 2 again. That's great. Big Turtle 2 because she wasn't saying the number two. She was like, Big Turtle 2? There's a Big Turtle also.
And then she wanted to watch Big Turtle 2 again.
That's great.
Big Turtle 2.
Yeah, yeah.
That's so funny.
Very wonderful. I was like, Big Turtle 2.
We can put it into our rotation.
I accept this movie as one of the ones that we watch over and over again.
I can't believe.
I love that.
Batman's staying with you.
Batman can stay.
I mean, we watch Monstersers Inc. all the time too
I really there's a few that I like know very well now
and it's I never thought
you know I've always been a person who watches the movie one time
and then kind of forgets it all
and I now can quote Monsters Inc., Monsters University
Frankenweenie
What's Frankenweenie about?
It's literally it's about a boy who's
it's a Tim Burton movie and it's all black and white animation
and then claymation
or whatever it is,
but his dog dies
and then he re,
he stitches it back together
and makes like a Frankenstein dog.
Wow.
Pretty dark.
I know.
We kind of skipped the dog dying
as we catch in time.
We just go like,
Oh,
look,
they're already doing this part.
Oh,
but it's,
yeah,
it's a pretty dark film.
It's really sweet. So let's hear about the awards and reception for lego batman it earned 312 million dollars worldwide against a budget of 80 million dollars i would say that's
a win for warner brothers and we always want to make sure yeah we want warner brothers to win they deserve the world
critics they had good things to say about this movie praising both the comedy and animation
style it holds a 89 on rotten tomatoes making the second highest ranking batman uh on the site
behind the dark knight wow that's actually really interesting. To me, it's Batman Begins,
Lego Batman,
and then the Dark Knight.
I'm gonna go
Batman Begins,
then Tim Burton
Batman Returns,
then Batman,
the one before that,
then Lego Batman.
Wow.
What do you say?
I go 89 Batman.
Oh, okay.
Dark Knight Rises.
Oh.
Sorry, not Rises.
Sorry, Dark Knight.
Okay.
Dark Knight.
I mean.
No, it's huge.
I was going to say that's huge.
That was a crazy thing.
Yeah, no, that's not the truth.
Batman Returns.
Batman Begins
Lego Batman
The New Batman
The Batman
Oh we haven't seen that
or you have
I have but I remember nothing
I really enjoyed it
Except for he like
wears jammies at one point
it looks like
and he's like flying
through the city
and I laughed
and no one else did
That's always good
You never know
you might have to sleep
at any time
He flies right into a bed
oh wait
I forgot Batman and Robin
Batman and Robin
you loved that one
I really did
that one was really
so maybe Batman Begins
Batman and Robin
Lego Batman
Batman Forever
whoa we're sick in the head
yeah
sounds like
the fact that we can do this
I know
it's so upsetting
and get a track of all the names
I know
because they're so close
to what the other ones are called.
Okay, we need
some trivia on this film.
No way!
Oh wait, sorry.
Oh my god, okay.
Will Arnett acknowledge that the raspy voice he used
for Batman is the same voice he uses with his
children when he's giving them important parenting information.
Hilarious.
That is funny.
Do you guys listen to Smart List at all?
No.
It's really funny.
I have known him as an actor, but through that podcast, I've learned of his sense of humor.
Do you listen to Smart List?
I don't.
People love it.
People love it.
Yeah.
I'm going to start today.
Yeah, me too.
I'm going to get a hobby and start listening.
Yeah, let's play it now and have the audience listen to us.
Yeah, I think it hears laughing.
We hope.
Oh, boy.
Bane's voice and accent in this movie is based on Tom Hardy's portrayal of Bane in The Dark Knight Rises.
Doug Benson had been doing that voice on his podcast since the movie was released,
and the directors were fans of Benson's podcast and hired him based on that.
I do feel like there's a lot of podcast fan crossover in the animation world.
I think so.
Yeah.
Because they're listening to voices all day, so they're like, better listen to more voices.
Billy Dee Williams voiced the nefarious Two-Face in this movie.
Williams portrayed Two-Face's good alter ego, Harvey Dent, in Batman 1989.
Huh.
Yeah, you forgot?
Sure did.
Yeah.
Some of my favorite lines in that whole movie.
Oh, do you know any of them off the top of your head?
It was like, the people of Gotham have more to worry about than ghosts and goblins.
It's so fucking good.
Or so freaking good, sorry.
You could swear.
You could say.
Oh, fuck yeah.
It's so fucking, fucking good.
Yes, one more.
Wait, he was not Two-Face?
He was just Harvey Dent?
Yeah, so by the time you, so he would have, I think the idea was that in the third movie
he would have become Two-Face then it was joel schumacher
and so uh timely jones played him instead of yeah because you only see um uh billy d williams like
standing at the podium like talking a little bit yeah in the second one um there here are some
memorable callbacks that connect to different movies batman's line in the beginning action
scene you want to get nuts?
Let's get nuts,
is a reference to Batman 1989.
I don't know what that is.
So that's in the scene where the Joker comes
to Vicki Vale's apartment
when he's about to tell her,
and then the Joker comes,
and Bruce Wayne has to figure out what to do,
so he puts the plate under his thing,
and he hits a vase on her thing
with a fire poker.
He's like,
we're gonna get nuts.
Gang, let's get nuts.
And then Joker shoots him.
And his line is,
never ever rub a man's rhubarb.
Wow.
I love this.
Wow.
That's wild.
You are a Batman head.
I'm a Batman guy.
Wow.
We need you here.
Yeah.
The shark repellent is a reference to the 1966 Batman.
I knew that.
Yeah, and they had a bunch of references to that one, which was cute.
And when they went back through all of the looks that he's had.
That was fun.
Yeah, that was very cute.
I liked all the little video things.
Early on, the Joker says that his plan is not like the two boats plan or the
parade with prince music okay the first is a reference to the joker's plan in the dark night
and the second is a reference to 1989 batman which uh was pretty amazing when the music in that one
is it's very nice all that prince music uh when batman and robin are fighting the phantom zone
villains batman is spinning robin around while rob Robin kicks away a bunch of Agent Smiths.
Oh, this is a reference to The Matrix.
Well, I've never seen that.
You've never seen The Matrix?
Yeah.
It's honestly great.
The first one was really good.
I heard the other ones that I don't need to see.
The first one, yeah.
Never bothered.
But there's a little boy in it who's like, talking about spoofs.
Honestly, that's never been referenced to me before I've heard a lot
of matrix references in my life
it's not one of them and now I want to know
I really like that part he's like a little ball
and he's bending a spin he's like
why is he ball
I don't know because he's magic
okay
after Batman agrees to work with Why is he bald? I don't know, because he's magic. Okay.
After Batman agrees to work with the others to stop the Joker, the cast offer to help Batman.
And he replies, what am I going to do?
Get a bunch of criminals together to fight the criminals?
That's a stupid idea.
This was a jab at Suicide Squad 2016, which Criminals Fighting Criminals was the plot of the movie.
Criminals Fighting Criminals is what saves the day in both movies.
It's a jab at Suicide Squad?
I thought it was just a reference.
Yeah.
Because I'm like, that's all the same characters, right?
It's like the Harley Quinn race.
They're not taking it down.
We don't think the Lego movie is taking anything down other than isolation and not being friends.
Okay.
Another break. Holy Batman.
Batman.
In this new segment.
It's not new.
In this.
Well, it's new to us.
It's new to the season.
It's new to the season.
Okay.
I'm going to start over.
We've been doing this for 13 episodes.
It's not new.
I really did.
I've never called it out before.
Holy Batman, Batman.
In this new segment, we will rate Will Arnott on the definitive newcomer's Batman scale.
We're going to use our phones to rank this Batman across five unique characteristics.
Preparedness.
How prepared is this Batman?
Does he get to use
his little gadgets and tools?
Detective ability.
Does this Batman get to be
a little detective?
Is he good at mystery solving?
Voice gravelliness.
How gravelly is this Batman's voice?
Sadness.
How lonely, brooding,
or emo is this Batman?
And finally, hotness, horniness.
How hot and or horny
is this Batman?
And reminder, he is a Lego.
As I did it, I was like, Nicole, it's a
Lego. Yeah, I didn't,
that's not going to really change anything for me, but
Okay, let's see how that
changes.
Whoa.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Okay, preparedness.
We gave this Batman a 90% prepared.
I feel like he's very prepared.
Very prepared, I think so.
He's got a lot of stuff.
He's got everything.
Detective ability, 61.7%. Who went super low?
I gave it super low because he wasn't really detective.
I think he's maybe the dumbest Batman.
That's true.
I guess he's kind of an airhead a little bit.
He's an airhead boy.
Okay, I gave him too much credit for being who he is.
I gave him a little too much too.
Yeah.
Voice gravelliness, 100%.
100%.
Best voice gravelliness and all natural voice gravelliness.
I don't think it's modified.
I think he's doing that.
Right?
I'm worried about his throat
he has a naturally gravelly voice
but I feel like
the one we just watched was
Ben Affleck was completely
oh that was wild I didn't enjoy
it's more fun to hear it
yeah to hear someone try
use the instrument
use your instrument actor
sadness 75.7%.
He's pretty sad.
He was sad, but only when he looked at pictures.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Most of it, he could forget about it.
And then he'd be like, aw.
And you'd be like, oh, no.
But I think the plot point is how lonely he is in this one versus the other ones where he's like, I'm sad, but I'm going to go kill people.
Not kill people.
He doesn't kill people.
No, no, very important.
But it's just like, ah, I don't have a family.
Yeah. But I felt like he
was okay with it because he was crunching
lobster's shell on. I was going to say he's chilling in his house.
Microwaving it as well. Yeah.
I was like, these are wild choices. I love the microwave.
He's standing in front of a cell phone. He's standing for two minutes.
He's just staring at it.
That was really cute.
Hotness and horniness. No.
It says 25.7.
But there is, well, two people are bringing this down.
Okay, I gave him a pretty high score.
You gave it very high.
I brought us down.
I gave it a real low.
I don't feel that I'm attracted to him.
That was a joke I was making earlier.
However, I do feel that he is horny.
He wanted Barbara.
That's true.
But I feel like he wanted Barbara, but not enough to really be like, hey, are you feeling
what I'm feeling?
Yeah.
No, he didn't try anything.
Plus, it's a children's movie, so I guess, what are we doing?
What am I talking about?
I don't know.
Some of these we've watched have been kind of for kids, like the Tim Burton ones.
Those are for kids, you think?
Well, aren't they kind of?
I mean, when we were kids, I feel like it was geared towards us.
I don't think.
I was watching this thing on it.
They weren't geared towards kids, and then like it was geared towards them. I don't think, I watched this thing on it. Like, they weren't geared towards kids.
And then parents got mad because McDonald's did, like, a Happy Meal for Batman Returns.
Oh, this came up.
I remember.
And then parents were like, this movie's not appropriate at all.
And Martin Burton's like, I didn't make it for just kids.
I didn't make it for the children.
Yeah.
But the marketing machine took over.
Because I feel like when I was a kid, it was like a movie that everyone could see.
Yeah.
Yeah, everyone had seen that in Greece.
In Greece.
My mother wouldn't let me watch Greece.
Why? She thought it was
inappropriate.
It's all about boinking.
It is. It's full grown adults
who are in their 10th year
of high school.
She was like, this is not for you.
Well, it's kind for you. Well,
it's kind of true.
Here's a segment that we have.
Taryn Killams,
how did the score
score?
So,
okay,
let's give our
one sentence opinion
on this.
Who did,
oh,
the score was by
Lauren Balfe.
That's probably not
how you say that.
I liked how you said it.
How would you say that,
Sam?
Lauren Balfe. Yeah, that's what i would say interesting okay
and we just go that's right yes correct and that's how you do say it
you're an idiot it's probably lorne balfe
lorne balfe Lorne Baffet. Lorne Baffet. How can I help you? That's how you answer the phone from now on.
No explanation.
Lorne Baffet.
I didn't really clock the music in, though.
I honestly don't feel like I really did.
The song at the end.
That was fun.
Yeah, but I was more focused on the jokes, I feel like.
I was trying to just pay attention because it was a constant stream of visual and verbal jokes.
And the first song he sings when he plays the...
Oh, yeah.
That bad boy.
He sings while he's beating up everybody.
Yeah.
I forgot about that.
That's great.
That was really fun.
Yeah, Lorne Balfe previously assisted Hans Zimmer
on the music of the Dark Knight trilogy.
So it's fun to get to do a silly one after that.
This one's for the kids.
I feel like Hans Zimmer has been around for a long time.
His name has been mentioned 5,000 times on this podcast.
Yes.
How old is he?
Reference point.
Let's take guesses first.
Okay, let's do our QR code.
I'm going to say he's 79.
I'm going to say he's 62 years old.
Whoa.
Oh.
He is 66. Wow. He thought he's 62 years old. Whoa. Oh. He is 66.
Wow.
Wow.
He thought he was 96.
And not 96.
Who's the other one that's like-
Tim Burton.
Who did-
The other music person?
John-
No.
You did it like for Batman?
Yeah.
Maybe Oingo Boingo.
I can't even think of his name right now.
Oh, Danny Elfman.
Danny Elfman.
That's what you say when you can't-
Oingo Boingo. Oingo Boingo. Oingo How old is Danny Elfman? Oingo boingo.
Oingo boingo.
Oingo boingo.
What does he do?
Oingo boingo.
He is 70.
Danny Elfman.
Danny Elfman is 70?
I thought he was older too.
He is?
He's ripped.
It's time for five kapows.
It's time for our reviews.
Of course, we love to read reviews from Letterboxd.
Sam, are you on Letterboxd?
I'm not on Letterboxd.
Is that something that interests you to tell your friends what you think about movies?
It's in person, I think.
Because we can get you signed up for Letterboxd right now if you would like.
Our producers are ready with a computer.
They're standing by.
I'm too humble a man.
Well, we are on Letterboxd as newcomers something we've never explored ourselves
and we're sure
I didn't know that
we were writing reviews
for this show
until this season
even though we've said
this every time
and we always say
now we're gonna say
what our review is
it's been six seasons
she didn't know
that they were being
and I had no idea
to be fair
I don't think it was
all six seasons
I think it might have
started with Marvel
just last time
so you're not
totally just like fully dumb yeah yeah yeah well earlier I was talking to Sam To be fair, I don't think it was all six seasons. I think it might have started with Marvel. Just last five. Okay. So you're not totally saying.
Just like 30 episodes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, earlier I was talking to Sam and I said,
I got to go to Whole Foods 369.
And he smiled and nodded at me.
And then I was like, did I say 369?
Yeah.
So she is off.
You have extra days in your year.
That's how she gets it all done.
How does she do it?
My extra
three days? Four days? I don't know.
So please follow us on Letterboxd
at Newcomers if you are someone who is into
such things. And right now we are going to
give a one sentence review ourselves
and a star rating out of five stars
what we think of this film. Anybody want to go first?
I'll go. Oh wait, you know what?
Let me tell you what these other people said first.
Okay, fair.
Lily gave it four stars and said, you can't spell the
Lego Batman movie without LGBT.
You sure can't, Lily.
You can't spell it, but were they represented?
I don't think in the least bit.
I don't think they were.
So it's not a connection I would make.
A lot of people on Letterboxd reference the gay undertones
oh okay
I mean Robin
Robin had a sparkly cape
a sparkly glitter cape
our queer correspondent
Ali says
yeah everyone was really
into Joker
Batman subtext
okay
oh okay true
very true
yeah that's totally
something that was going on
okay
I hear it
interesting
I didn't pick up
on that at all
and then the glitter cape
I thought was just a fun choice.
Yeah.
I agree.
Sophie gave it four stars.
Sophie says, how do you think Ben Affleck feels knowing that Bojack Horseman made a
better Batman than he did?
Whoa, Sophie.
Throwing daggers.
Wow.
Throwing that shade, Sophie.
You don't have to say the horse did it better.
Not the horse.
What about the actor?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, what's the one sentence review you would give this film in your star rating?
Sam?
I give it a five star.
It's the sweetest Batman that we can learn from oh i like that i think i'm
gonna give it five stars as well what a nice fun time um love legos love a good ha ha tee hee um
lots of heart this morning i woke up and i, I love my friends who are my family.
I like that message.
Friends are family.
I like that.
I called Sashir today and was like,
I want to know what I learned from the bad man.
I thought that was really sweet.
That's a good message for kids to understand.
And then I went on to say,
why don't more live action movies tell me
that I can do it with my friends?
Yeah, that's true.
She was like, it's a children's movie?
I don't know, Nicole.
No, they don't say that enough.
I would give this five stars as well.
I'm going to say, as a huge Batman fan and aficionado, I loved all the references and jokes to other Batman films.
And it's really cute and funny.
The end.
Ooh, we didn't mention.
I think it was the Loch Ness Monster who accidentally kills Sauron.
Yeah.
And then he slinks away in the water.
That really made me laugh.
I just didn't want this podcast to end without me mentioning that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm glad you said that.
Actually, is it the monster from Not Jason and the Argonauts?
Sorry, this is a very, excuse me.
What do you call it?
Actually.
An actually.
Well, actually.
It's a very actually.
But I was, I don't know, but I was like curious what that was because he like shoots a blast
out of his mouth.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
And it was like giant.
The like Godzilla type figure?
Yeah, that Godzilla
with the four arms.
We call that Big Turtle
in my house.
Big Turtle.
That's Big Turtle.
That's Big Turtle.
Oh, sorry.
Clash of the Titans.
Is he from Clash of the Titans?
I don't know.
I didn't know what that was.
Is it the Kraken?
Is it Kraken
from Clash of the Titans?
Oh, release the Kraken.
Release the Kraken.
Oh, I know that.
I don't know what that is, but I know that. I know that phrase, but I don't know what it's in reference to.
I kind of only thought that was an NHL team.
Didn't know that was a reference.
Oh, the Kraken?
A mighty beast that dwells below the sea.
The swamp creature.
The swamp creature.
Oh.
Oh.
That's what I'm getting off Google.
Hey, that's what it is then.
Was there a Harry Potter person in it?
Voldemort.
Oh, yeah. That's what it is then. Was there a Harry Potter person in it? Voldemort. And what's funny also is that Ralph, Ralph Fiennes is Alfred, but in the Harry Potter
movies, he's Voldemort.
But he didn't play Voldemort.
That's fun.
And what is his name?
Ralph?
Ralph.
It seems like it's Ralph, but it's Ralph.
Why did he do that?
Because he's very thingy.
Yeah, do you guys know?
Why did he do that?
Yeah.
I don't know that he had any
control. I think we should talk to his parents.
We also
love to read reviews about our own
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5 stars. Ooh, baby!
I'm hibernating until the Superman
season begins. Shut up. No.
And my favorite duo returns.
I truly can't wait to hear those crazy
ladies talk about more movies that i have never have never seen and will never watch
thank you i think it's a mistake you thought we were doing superman yeah because i got scared
that this was a suggestion to do superman i don't even know how we could we can't we can't i just
simply no don't want to we actually have to put our foot down.
His outfit makes me upset.
Yeah.
The kryptonite is dumb.
His hair.
Oh, uh-oh.
All I want is that bathtub scene for four hours.
Yeah, we like the bathtub scene.
I want to see everything.
What happened next?
Wait.
I want to see them get out of the tub.
I want to see them deal with the wet clothes.
I want to see them put them in their washing machine.
I want to watch that film.
I think you should do an indie that's just based on that scene.
I think that's really funny.
That would be great.
Or a short or something.
It's Lois Lane and Superman effing in the tub.
Effing in the tub.
Wait, Sam, you said you like Superman.
Why?
I like 77 Superman, Christopher Reeve's Superman.
Scott was also singing his praises.
Wait, do you like Wonder Woman too?
The show?
Oh, no, no.
I liked the first one a whole lot.
Okay.
Oh, you've never seen it?
I've never seen it either.
Are you kidding?
Second one I wanted to like a whole lot, but it was a little messy.
Yeah.
Who are the other DCers?
You've got The Flash.
Oh, yeah.
He just, that movie just came out.
The movie just came out.
Are we watching that?
Okay, so.
We are watching it.
Can we say that?
I feel like our lineup changed a little bit because Scott, I'm just going to say Scott
made us do it.
Scott like bullied us.
Scott was like, you can't do the Joker because Batman's not in the Joker.
And he had his reasons.
But then he said the Flash was more important to this specific Batman franchise.
Oh, interesting.
Because Affleck Batman has a pretty big, I don't want to say it's huge, but he does participate in the film.
Yeah.
So Ben Affleck has been Batman three times?
Yeah. Wow. Same as Christian Bale the film. Yeah. So Ben Affleck has been Batman three times? Yeah.
Wow.
Same as Christian Bale?
Wow.
Yeah.
Michael Keaton only did it twice?
Nope, no.
He did three times?
He did three times.
Also in The Flash.
Whoa!
Is Val Kilmer there too in George Clooney?
He's not, but apparently they were supposed to be.
Okay, okay, okay, fine.
Wow.
I'm excited now, weirdly.
The only thing I've seen from that movie is the falling babies.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, you showed me that scene, and that was the most insane they were ever seen.
In context, is it supposed to be funny?
I think so, but even still, it's bizarre.
It's so weird.
It is.
It's an odd choice.
Yeah.
That's so funny
I can't wait
okay well
is that the next one
we're watching
oh it's gonna tell me
no I don't think
so we got a little time
everyone out there
please write a review
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because we pick one
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yes
Sam you've been
such a delight
you really have
is there anything
you would like to plug
just hanging out just hanging out
just plug my Instagram
yeah what is it
it's the Sam Richardson
do you have an X account
I do Sam Richardson
you ask it that way everyday
you have an X account
it's so dumb that Elliot Muskies was like
I'm gonna rename it X
what's wrong with you I'm going to rename it X.
What's wrong with you?
I'm not on X.
I was on Twitter forever and I left Twitter and it felt like nothing.
I was so scared to leave.
And then I was like, delete.
And I was like, it doesn't matter.
Just nothing changed in my life at all.
So I spent less time looking at that.
Yeah.
And more time on Instagram.
Well, we're going to be back next week with The Batman, a movie I loved but remember nothing about.
We're so caught up.
This is from 2022.
Oh, my God.
That's last year.
Yeah.
Depending on when you listen to this.
Yeah. Yeah.
It depends.
So you do the math yourself on when that was.
Bye.
Bye. Bye.
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