Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - The Mandalorian (w/ Griffin Newman & David Sims)
Episode Date: May 19, 2020It's Baby Yoda time! Co-hosts of Blank Check, Griffin Newman (actor/comedian, The Tick) and David Sims (Film critic, writer for The Atlantic) join us to tackle episodes 1-3 of The Mandalorian... series on Disney+. They break down how Disney avoided Baby Yoda spoilers, explain the 2-person puppetry behind it, and share their overall LOVE for The Child. They maybe even convinced Nicole and Lauren to keep watching?Plus a bonus POST ROLL: Talking about Amanda Bynes' thirst, Drake's purse collection, and our wikiFeet ratings.Links for this episodeBaby Yoda Moms Tweet (since deleted)Griffin Newman's Watto CostumeAdvertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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This is a complicated profession.
They said you were coming.
They said you were the best in the Parsec.
Would you agree? Mandalorian, look outside. They are waiting for you.
Yeah? Good.
Welcome to another episode of Newcomers.
I'm Nicole Byer.
And I'm Lauren Lapkus.
And we are consuming a new piece of Star Wars media every week and breaking it down.
We've basically seen everything there is. I mean, we have seen a lot of stuff at this point.
And we've passed many tests.
We have aced many quizzes.
I'm truly like, we're experts, but whatever.
Yeah, we're trying to get in that.
New Star Wars movie directed by a man whose name
I don't dare say out loud because I don't know how to pronounce it.
Taika Waititi.
Is that how you say it?
Okay.
I got a nod over here.
Okay, I'm going to ride with that.
Yeah, we want to be in the movie, sir.
So please let us in the movie, please.
Yeah, please.
Okay, so it's Baby Yoda time,
which I couldn't be happier about it, honestly.
I've been waiting for this day for a long time.
On today's episode,
we're diving into Star Wars' first action series the mandalorian and we
watched um the first three episodes of season one and we're going to talk about that today
so if you're still new to the series there may be some spoilers leading up to that point but um
you know not our fault i don't know what to tell you if you like star wars you should have been
watched it i mean we've been spoiling stuff for the last however many episodes, so we spoil everything.
But watch the first three. I'm excited. I'm excited about our guests today.
One is a writer and comedian who starred on Amazon's The Tick series, and the other is a film critic and writer for The Atlantic.
And together they co-host the very funny Blank Check podcast where they review directors' complete filmographies episode to episode.
Welcome to the show, Griffin Newman and David Sims.
Hello. Hi.
Hi.
Thank you so much for being here.
As you said, it's Baby Yoda time,
and your producer, Mars, kindly sent us a couple options
of things you were going to be covering
and let us choose.
And I think David and I both agreed
the thing we would most like to be witness to
is the two of you meeting Baby Yoda for the first time. I think Dave and I both agreed the thing we would most like to be witnessed to is,
is the two of you meeting baby Yoda for the first time,
your initial baby Yoda wave.
That felt like the most exciting.
Cause I feel like the journey of this podcast has sort of unknowingly been
the two of you getting to the point where you get to meet baby Yoda.
Yeah.
Cause baby Yoda is so cute.
My jaw was on the floor when baby yoda
appeared i screamed it it feels like judging by everything listening to your episodes everything
you've liked in star wars and everything you've disliked in star wars baby yoda is right there
at the farthest end of the like it's almost like the focus group result retroactively of everything you want.
Did you know?
Like how much did you know you were in for with Baby Yoda?
I assume you knew Baby Yoda existed.
I knew Baby Yoda existed.
I thought Baby Yoda made appearances.
I didn't know Baby Yoda was number two on the call sheet.
He's the thing.
Same.
Didn't know it.
I didn't know.
And also like I feel like we've seen it's the same as
like our experience with all of star wars i think we're like we saw memes we knew like general
culture points about them or whatever like references and baby yoda was the only thing
that made it through from the mandalorian to us i think and in our yes in our bubble
and i've been excited about it i've've like wanted merch. We bought some shirts on Instagram that have Baby Yoda in the pocket.
Yes.
The quality is questionable.
Like he's poking out of the pocket?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's kind of, I like that.
That's cute.
I like a meta shirt like that
that incorporates the pocket.
His portability.
Yes.
His portability is very crucial
to his cuteness.
It's a key feature.
Nicole, we haven't talked about these shirts because
I mean they are from an Instagram ad
and the pocket is drawn on
the pocket is
the pocket is drawn on there are no
natural fibers in this shirt it is all
if you walk near
a stove you will blow off
you're just going to go up in flames
I need to walk back my previous statement
I hate this there's nothing
i dislike more than a liar's pocket it's a lie i've also googled i googled like baby yoda pocket
shirt just to try and find it there are 1 million versions of this it is crazy how many kinds there
are this company was called like shirts for her yeah or something real and it took like it took
a really long time to arrive.
Yes, so long. And when it arrived
I was like, what is this? And then it was like
this shirt and I was like, hmm.
Questionable. And you know when you like order some weird
merch and then it arrives and it like smells like vinegar
and you're like, wait, what is,
where did this come from? Oh my god, my best one
was I ordered an Instagram, I was
fooled by an Instagram ad over
Christmas for this giant seal pillow
that was like huggable,
squishy, big thing.
And it arrived in the mail
and was 13 centimeters big.
Oh boy.
It was the smallest thing
I've ever seen in my life.
I was like so pissed
and it was a carnival toy.
It was not at all
what was advertised to me
and I paid $26 for it.
It was like a claw machine toy.
That's so funny.
That's like the toilet paper scams going on now on Amazon.
What is happening?
You're paying $90 and it takes two months
for miniature toilet paper to arrive.
It gets to you and it's so tiny.
Wait, a friend of ours, I'll tell you who later,
but she ordered it and then she took a picture
next to real toilet paper for scale
it's very funny that's there are a lot of people who get tricked with that too with like buying
furniture they're like i can't believe this chaise lounge only costs 15 oh my god i know
you gotta think and it's like for polly pocket there are two tricks like that the
there's that one which is you're actually buying the dollhouse version of what you think you're getting.
And the second one which I like
even more is you're buying
a mouse pad with the image
of the product printed on it. This is like, I think
Emily Heller had. Yes.
She's got a welcome mat that was just
foam with a picture of a mat on it.
It was like a picture of grass or whatever.
It looked like it would be like
you could rub your feet on it. And it was just a drawing.
I just think that is psychotic.
Can I say it's weird because like the timing is weird.
It's not a Christmas season.
We're in May.
But I feel like there's like a tickle me Elmo.
I truly didn't know what you were talking.
I was like, we are?
I had no idea what month it was.
Right now is currently May.
Wow.
Okay.
I did look out the window and I was like, I don't think it's Christmas.
But maybe it is.
Who knows?
He's probably right.
It took so long
for official
Baby Yoda
merchandise to hit
because they were
trying to keep it
under wraps
and make sure that
it didn't leak
before the show premiered.
So it's taken
however many months.
And I,
for the last
three weeks
trying to find things
to occupy my brain,
have had like four different apps
where I have Baby Yoda saved for later
with notifications for when it goes back in stock.
I do want something.
To get a Baby Yoda doll.
I'm getting one this week.
I think it's finally supposed to come this week.
I think I want a Baby Yoda doll.
And Mars, our producer, sent us on Twitter,
there's like a mom Facebook group I think I want a baby Yoda doll and Mars, our producer sent us on Twitter women.
There's like a mom Facebook group where they dress baby Yoda up as
children.
This is our Hoth Goss segment and it is amazing.
Yes.
These people will take baby Yoda dolls and put them into like real baby
clothes and prop them up like they're babies.
It's truly scary. And I recently came across a whole YouTube world where women have these really lifelike baby
dolls and they will treat them like real babies and change their diaper on camera and they'll
walk you through their whole day with the baby. And it's it makes me sick. I think it's honestly
really scary. Have you seen Servant on Apple TV? No. What is Servant?
Yes.
The M. Night Shyamalan show.
It's really creepy.
And part of the thing is, I mean, whatever.
Spoiler.
Skip if you don't care or if you care, whatever.
But there's a woman who has lost a child and she is given a real-ish baby doll and she
takes care of it as if it's her own baby.
As if it never.
No.
We can't do this to people.
It's not good so when
i see these baby yoda dolls i feel this way because i'm sure they feel really like weighted
and good but there's something so unsettling about putting a headband on it sure there's also
something because because he is not step being taken. Something doesn't feel good to me. Because he is not human, right?
Baby Yoda.
And because Baby Yoda is a puppet,
like is done practically on the show.
Really?
Oh, it is?
Oh, yeah.
That's really fucking cool.
That's even better.
I didn't realize.
Yeah.
When he moves a ton,
like anytime there's a really complicated movement,
it's CGI.
But they try to make the cgi
look as much like the puppet as possible and it's like 95 puppet that's really good i love that and
it's two people right one is like the ears and the you know and then one is like the eyes and
the facial expressions oh my god wait okay wait i want to get into all this i want to back up a
little bit because i want to talk about your podcast i didn't realize this that blank check
started as an in-depth discussion
of the Star Wars prequels.
Yes.
Tell us about how that started
and what that experience was like for you.
David Sia.
Griffin, do you want to take this?
Sure.
I mean, yeah.
We became friends
through going to a movie trivia night together.
Yeah.
When we were both in sort of dark periods of our lives
and needed something to consume our time and energy.
Right.
So David was post-breakup.
I was post-getting fired from a TV show.
And we were just like,
let's put everything into this trivia night
and did it for like over a year
and then felt like we need to step away from this.
And so we are looking for something
to become our new like weekly friend
activity and going back and forth.
We were like brainstorming and had this idea of what if we do a podcast
where we pretend that the Phantom Menace is the only Star Wars movie that
exists because George Lucas is always so adamant.
Like you should watch this one first.
This is the order it intended.
It's the beginning.
George Lucas says that you should start at the beginning. Yeah's like i made them out of order but like this is really the best way to see the story is to see it this way you're the
first person to tell us that that is really are yeah because it would have been so helpful maybe
if we did it that way well no this is this i don't think so that was the thing i think it'd be way
worse like for us it was partly a bit,
but we were also like,
it's an interesting thought experiment
because when people talk about episode one,
they talk about it in relation to the original Star Wars.
Like, most people saw that film later
after living with Star Wars for so long
that they only, like, view it
in sort of judgmentally against...
What if you strip the baggage out?
Right.
Like, oh, this is the new star wars
thing and i don't like it because i like the old stars because if you look at it as a story right
it should be able to stand on its own so we thought we might end up liking it more viewing
it that way and in fact i think both of us feel like we like the film more in relation to the
original films uh definitely yeah yeah it makes no sense
as a movie that is supposed to be the beginning of a story we were like a this is the beginning
of a story b it wasn't successful enough he never made any sequels like that was the bit
yeah it was just it was a failed franchise it was tom cruise's the mummy it was like whatever
you know so griffin it's so annoying that we did that for a whole year
right people can listen to it it's out there you can listen to the first episodes of that for a
year of just we did 10 10 episodes on the phantom menace and then we discovered attack of the clones
and we did 10 more so we did the whole prequels right 10 episodes each oh my god so you were like
oh my god there's another one.
Okay, that's amazing.
That's really funny.
We would end every 10th episode by going to Google
to try to pick a new movie to cover on the show
and Google films like The Phantom Menace.
And then we would give incredible performances
as people who just discovered a film
that had apparently come out 16 years earlier did people
think you were serious at all or was everyone in on it i heard were there some people who responded
like what the fuck like i i think it was disproportionately i know most people got
the bit and at that point not enough people were listening occasionally we would get one or two
angry messages where they wouldn't know.
Those were good times, Griffin.
It was fun times.
But we did, yeah. We essentially spent a year doing Star Wars in these dumb sort of bits.
And then at the end of that year, when we wanted to keep the show going, we were like,
this kind of became more about George Lucas and trying to figure out what that guy was thinking.
And then so that became the show was like, we'll pick a director and go through all of
their movies and try to figure out sort of their brain or their career arc in some kind
of way.
That's great.
Speaking of George Lucas, Griffin, you did the George Lucas talk show May 4th movie marathon
live stream.
Yeah.
And you dressed up as Watto for 30 hours.
For 30 hours.
The picture is really concerning. Thank you. Wait, who as Watto for 30 hours? For 30 hours. The picture is really concerning.
Thank you.
Wait, who's Watto?
You've met him.
You've met him.
You guys have dealt with him.
He was like a Jewish stereotype in that one.
Oh, he's the one who owns Anakin.
The slave owner.
Right.
So I always really related to Watto in retrospect
because he was the character that was
offensive to my people
but I think I didn't get that at the time
I thought you were like because I own people
right because I own people
but
I a lot of our
podcast became about Watto
and stemmed out of me tweeting about Watto
and then Distin used to play Sean Distin about Watto and stemmed out of me tweeting about Watto.
And then Distin used to play, Sean Distin,
the great Sean Distin, used to play Jar Jar Binks on the George Lucas talk show.
And then when he moved to LA,
I begged Connor to let me start doing it as Watto.
So I've been doing Watto at the live show
for like three or four years.
And then I just did it for 30 straight hours.
And now we're going to keep doing it every Sunday for the foreseeable future, doing a live stream.
And to be clear, your Watto costume is like a body stocking.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's describe it just a little bit.
You have on a blue, bright blue body stocking.
It's like a morph suit that's supposed to cover your face.
And I wear it backwards so that I can unzip it just down to my chin.
And you have an elephant nose.
I'm going to link a photo
in the episode description
so fans can see it
because it is a crazy costume.
I have an elephant nose
spray painted blue.
I have child's pixie wings.
I have a little vest
that I lace up
in a fanny pack
and I wear a yarmulke.
And you seem to have
shoved a pillow in there
or something.
Yes, yes. I shove a pillow in there or something. Yes, yes. I shove
a pillow in there so I have a little gut.
But it's a horrible character and
a horrible stereotype and he
now exists as sort of like my id.
Wait, so what's the live stream every week
going to be? Not 30 hours.
Great question. No.
It is going to be
four to five hours every
week. Of course, the only way to naturally follow up live streaming every Star Wars movie.
Four to five hours?
That's a long time.
Just, Nicole, just get ready for this bullshit.
I'm already tired.
Four to five hours?
And what are you watching?
Every week, we are watching one entire season of Arliss.
Arliss?
Arliss.
You're a psycho.
I love this.
Yeah.
So we're doing all seven seasons of Arliss
one week at a time.
In character is George Lucas and Wado.
I don't even know what Arliss is.
That weird show that was on what?
HBO?
HBO.
It was like an early HBO show
where people were like,
what is this?
No one's ever seen this show,
but anyone who loved it, loved it.
Nicole, the two S's are dollar signs.
No, for what?
This is wild.
Money.
It's a comedy about a sports agent.
For what?
Money.
It's a post Jerry Maguire HBO half hour sitcom starring Robert Wool.
Yes, there we go.
Yeah.
Robert Wool.
He like has a cigar.
Sandra Oh.
Sandra Oh was on
it michael boatman yeah amanda binds alan thick the amount of people who are on one episode of
our list is insane yeah did robert wool did he just like have blackmail material i feel like
he could just call everyone in for one episode yeah we should talk about the mandalorian okay so the mandalorian released in november 2019
on disney plus and written by john favreau which i didn't realize marvel man yeah marvel is disney
yes but i think of him as a comedian like i think of him as like a comedy guy kind of like actor
swingers right swingers right and then his big breakout movie as a director was Elf.
Right.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
He wrote Swingers, and then he sort of later would say,
I kind of co-directed Swingers.
So then he made Maid.
That was him and Vince Vaughn again
to sort of try to recapture the Swingers thing.
And Diddy.
Don't forget Diddy.
And Diddy.
Diddy's in it too. And he did he that's what i thought and
did he wait who's did he p did he no he did he's in the movie mid oh wait really i don't know he
was probably puff daddy still at that point i can't remember or maybe sean puffy combs yeah or
puff you know i remember when he went from p did he to Diddy because he said the P was getting in between him and his fans
do you remember that?
he actually said that
that's very funny
I wish I was that like
not self involved but like
cared that much about my name to be like
I'm now N Diddy or
Nasty Nicky
I don't know
you could be N Biddy
this is what I find interesting Nicky, Nasty Nicky. I don't know. You could be N. Bitty.
This is what I find interesting about Jon Favreau's involvement in Mandalorian.
He does the first two Iron Man movies.
So he does like the first two Marvel movies
out of all of them
before Disney even buys Marvel.
And he campaigned really hard
to direct Avengers and didn't.
But he still gets money every
time iron man's in a movie so he's just made ungodly amounts of money so much money that's
wild because he made the first one because he created the character well yeah wait that's so
wild that what a deal like a perpetual executive producer credit on any iron man thing that's a
fucking cool ass right right sure the
only other marvel director who i think has that is james gunn with the guardian movies like if
group is in a movie he gets a little more money i think they both had good agents and both of those
movies looked like not very valuable at the time like they were lesser characters so he's just on
this insane marvel drip uh and then he didn't get pushed out,
but people didn't like Iron Man 2,
he didn't get to direct Avengers, whatever.
When Disney bought Star Wars,
he was thirsty on Maine,
constantly posting things on Twitter and Instagram.
He was in Land of Minds asking Drake to murder her vagina.
He was asking Lucasfilm to murder his pussy.
Like, he was.
He was. he was constantly
posting things just being like loving all the support from my fans hopefully i'll get the
lucasfilm meeting soon for a guy who directed blockbuster you know and then bums me the fuck
out because like when do you have to stop begging for shit but this is what's cool it's so crazy
this says a lot about his character okay they don't hire him to make any
of the main films he goes to lucasfilm and is like i would like to help you make a live action tv show
he directs none of the episodes he just wrote it he wrote almost all of them and he was like i just
kind of want to be the showrunner i want to write this i really just want to do anything within the
star wars universe because he was i believe when they were directing it right he was busy making I just kind of want to be the showrunner. I want to write this. I really just want to do anything within the Star Wars universe.
Because he was,
I believe when they were directing it,
he was busy making The Lion King, right?
So he couldn't work on the sets really,
but he wrote it all.
He's a big dork who likes Star Wars and wanted to write a show with a Baby Yoda.
Yeah, he was like,
I'll do anything I can.
So Baby Yoda is his idea.
Yeah.
He's a genius.
Yeah.
And he has such a wide range.
Like he's done things that are just so different from each other.
I mean, that's crazy.
Yeah.
I'm very interested in this.
I love that he invented Baby Yoda.
Absolutely.
He's a hero.
Okay.
So the Mandalorian is set after the fall of the Empire and before the emergence of the
First Order.
So it's between episode six of The Return of the Jedi
and episode seven, The Force Awakens.
This is so weird.
I didn't understand that.
I didn't understand that.
Let me just,
the series depicts a lone bounty hunter
in the outer reaches of the galaxy
far from the authority of the New Republic.
Okay, I didn't get that.
Me either.
That this is like post-Jedi,
Emperor's dead.
There's still stormtroopers, but they're kind of just like you know they're they're not official anymore right they're kind of you know
everything's just sort of falling apart the reason all the stormtroopers look kind of dirty and
busted is because like technically the empire has been canceled so they're all just like use
stormtrooper armor that they can't wash anymore
right the stormtrooper laundries are
closed I guess so this is before
Snooki comes
exactly okay so this is
it's between this is pre-Snooki
right it's between Return of the Jedi and Force
Awakens but it's much closer
to Return of the Jedi like this is like a couple
years after Return of the Jedi
the Ewoks have won
the bad guys are dead and all their sort of underlings are now just kind of like
nazis hanging out in brazil right okay so it's chaotic right when he meets with verner herzog
and everyone's like how dare you meet with like someone from the empire and he's like the empire
doesn't exist anymore this is a guy who's just still wearing his old uniform but that's what he's supposed to be like the guy who's like look
the empire ups and downs but the trains ran on time like he's supposed to be someone who
is nostalgic for the empire okay he's like sean spicer leaving the trump administration
and trying to be like look i can like make jokes about it I loved how this looked first of all I just want to say
when it started I was like great I mean I even just like how the Star Wars logo looked they
had kind of a rainbow effect to it I thought it was very cool looking and I liked how real
everything feels I didn't know that that was going to be what this was like so that was kind
of a nice surprise especially because I had just accidentally watched the Clone Wars or before this
and so I was like this was a gift to my eyes.
Or what was it?
Clone Wars.
Yeah.
Is that what I said?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Did you like the first episode, Lauren?
Like is such a strange term to use in this podcast because I have a hard time because I think, yes, like ultimately I was kind of like, this is my favorite.
But I still was like, I can't pay pay attention i don't know who that is like it's it's really
hard for me to focus on that yes i was like the first episode's also slow it's too slow also i
was like is he a bobo fett is he a bobo is he a bobo jamba no bobo who's the other bobo bobo jingo jingo fat jingo fat yeah is it a jungle
no because i reviewed this show when it debuted and they only gave they didn't i think i guess
they gave us the first episode like that and that was it and i watched it and yeah you have baby
yoda right at the end and you're like oh that's intriguing but everything else i was like man
it seems like they're stretching this out yeah like tv length and i don't know there's not a lot here like i it looked
really slick but i until baby yoda really took hold and like the point of the show became clearer
i was i was not like convinced it was gonna work yes this was like the the a new hope a half hour of the gig old man and the little trash can in the in the desert
for a half hour why this was like okay so i don't know if this is a jango or a boba for like
25 minutes and then we saw baby yoda and i screamed and i said i'm in yeah you know they
got us at the end i'm gonna read the synopsis of this first episode just so I can understand what I saw.
A Mandalorian bounty hunter tracks a target
for a well-paying, mysterious client.
He travels to the desert planet Arvala 7
and meets a native named Kuil
who wants to help him so that he can be rid of the criminals
and mercenaries who now inhabit the area.
The Mandalorian is forced to team up with bounty droid IG-11.
They manage to clear the entire facility of guards and discover
that the bounty is Baby Yoda or otherwise
known as the Child. IG-11
plans to kill it but the Mandalorian
blasts the droid to protect the baby and his bounty.
Oh, I liked that part where that droid came in and he
was about to shoot Yoda and then the guy was
like, blah. Do you guys know
who the voice of IG-11 is?
No. Taika Wait know who the voice of IG-11 is? No.
Taika Waititi, who we just mentioned.
Okay, our future employer.
Yes, our future boss.
And he directs the finale of this season,
which is kind of why they hire him to do the next Star Wars movie.
I know it's weird to talk about this
as if it's like a different time and place,
but eight months ago was very different.
Yeah.
No, it was the same.
I was staying inside and I was scared.
But to the point of what David was saying, like they were so under wraps about this show that no one really knew what it was.
And this was the show that launched Disney Plus.
Right.
First episode went up the
night that disney plus launched so people were staying up until like 3 a.m to try to watch this
first episode and no one like people didn't know like is it an hour long is it half an hour long
yeah right right we knew nothing we just knew it was about a mandalorian right there was like one
trailer with almost no dialogue baby yoda was totally secret. And so the one thing that was a twist, they kept saying there was a twist. Right. And David and I are very much on the same page, which is like all the deep lore of Star Wars is window dressing for us.
That's the sort of stuff that, like, you can dip into that if you want to.
Clone Wars, for me, I've always had a hard time getting into because it feels so deep into the lore.
And I always like, like, the emotional stories that happen in front of all the sort of, like, mythic stuff.
And when they kept on saying there was a twist, we were like, fuck, is it going to turn out the Mandalorian is, like, zombie Boba Fett?
Is it going to turn out it's, like, young Rey? Is it going to turn out it Mandalorian is like zombie Boba Fett? Is it going to turn out? It's like young Ray.
Is it going to turn out?
It's like,
you know,
any of the things that for us,
it's like expanded star Wars stuff should be new stories and new characters.
Not trying to tie it into the old.
Yeah,
exactly.
I don't really care about it.
I disagree.
I disagree too.
We like when it connects to the old stuff.
Because it's familiar.
And then when you don't understand what's happening truly for the first 15 minutes of the back three movies I kept
being like who's him who's her who are these people and then with the Mandalorian I was like
who's a Mandalorian what is it I still don't really know who's a Mandalorian who is Amanda
who's Amanda who's a Mandalien? What's she doing?
To some degree,
he is a mystery and that is a conflict
that will run
throughout the rest
of the season.
I will say,
I liked this episode
a lot more re-watching it now
after the whole season
has aired.
I was similarly
kind of confused
and underwhelmed by it
when it first dropped.
Yeah.
Well, do you feel like
it was an oversight
that they, or just a mistake that they had
the Baby Yoda stuff not released until April?
Like, we were looking for Baby Yoda merch like months ago, and it wasn't coming out
until April.
And I'm like, that seems crazy.
I feel like you could have dropped this before the show and it would have been a hit.
Yeah.
They wanted Baby Yoda to be a surprise within the show, which I think ultimately worked for them because it made the Internet explode because everyone got to feel like they were discovering Baby Yoda.
Okay.
And the problem is if you make the merchandise in advance, I know too much about merchandise, but if you have the merchandise ready before the show drops.
That shit will leak.
The Internet will always get images of it six months in advance.
Like someone takes a photo at the factory in China.
Right.
Before it even gets sent to stores
and then people know the plot.
But I would have been,
I knew about Baby Yoda,
so much about Baby Yoda,
but I didn't know anything about the Mandalorian
and I still truly screamed really loudly
when I saw Baby Yoda.
I was truly like aghast.
I was thrilled.
I was like, what? It's's so cute and it's cuter than
you even think and like cute but didn't they not didn't they try to get all the gifts taken off
the internet at one point they were trying to control that yeah and then i think they
eventually relented on that because obviously you know it only helps i think i think so it
only helps he became a cultural figure he's a little puppet
of a yoda right and and he actually became like a cultural icon of the year well and i mean this
is one of the things that the big complaints about quibi is that you can't screenshot and
share it online so like right being able to share baby yoda is half of what made me want to watch
this i wouldn't have cared you know they backed backed off of it and sort of learned their lesson pretty quickly.
But I think there is, it's like
this, the Mandalorian, the
first episode is kind of like
edging you for as long as possible.
And sort of like purposefully
confusing. I think
I liked it more re-watching it now because
a lot of the things
set up here do come back into play
later in like a fun way.
When I was initially watching, I'm like, where is this going?
But this is a pretty structured show.
And everyone you're meeting is going to matter.
And it's all going to tie in nicely.
It's a nicely structured little show.
This is the thing I like the most about Mandalorian without preloading your expectations.
But I think you've probably seen this having watched three episodes now.
The episodes are kind of standalone like the biggest through line is just he won't stop taking
care of this kid you know which is so sweet it's like three men and a baby right like it's just
like what how we have this baby now we gotta figure it out it's one mask and a baby and like
every episode he sort of goes on like a new job, meets some new people, goes to a new planet.
And the through line is just his relationship with this kid.
And so a lot of the stuff in the first episode, you're like, am I supposed to understand this?
Does this matter?
Like, am I supposed to be excited by this?
And it's not until the final scene where you're like, oh, this is the actual show.
This is the only thing I really need to track.
But a lot of those characters in the pilot later come back and become characters you care about who are funny yeah wait i have a question
yeah go ahead why doesn't the mandalorian take off his helmet like does he not shower also
the baby yoda really reminded me of the baby in Men in Black. Do you know what scene we're talking about? Yes, the squid baby.
Yes.
I've never seen Men in Black.
Oh!
Lauren, it's a great show.
Great show, great movie.
I love Men in Black.
Men in Black 2, I don't really count it as part of canon.
I'll watch it.
Men in Black 3, I sobbed in the movie theater.
Wow.
Men in Black 3, we have to do Men in Black on our podcast.
It holds up.
It's a great film.
Ooh, should have won Oscars.
We've talked about this too often in too many different places,
but the moment that really solidified our friendship, David and I,
was one night we got drunk,
and at the bar we were at,
Men in Black 2 was playing on the TV, and we were talking about how much we were at men in black 2 was playing on the tv and we were
talking about how much we still like resent men in black 2 and we were like here's the challenge
before we leave this bar we need to see if we can fix men in black 2 right we're gonna we're gonna
write men in black 2 what that sequel should have been wow i think we nailed it i think we nailed it
i i can't pitch it because lauren hasn't seen men in black one
okay we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back with uh more about the mandalorian
okay we're back and um we should talk about chapter two the child do you want to read this
sure upon returning to his ship the mandalorian finds a team of jawa scavenging for
parts with the assistance of kuali he bargains with the jawas to return the ship's part and
return for retrieving the egg after fighting with a mud horn to collect its its egg mandalorian and
kual i don't say that right repair the ship allowing him to leave actually how is it quill I have no idea
quill
it's k-u-i-i-l
which is not how you spell things
I thought the egg
was gonna be baby Yoda
because he was kind of in an egg
was that what I was supposed to think
maybe maybe
I mean once again this is one of those shows
where like sometimes they're really playing off
of giving you false expectations.
And sometimes you're just, of course,
reading into everything too much because it's Star Wars.
Yeah.
And you're trying to figure out
if something is important or not.
Yeah.
Well, I spent a lot of the episode arguing
with my roommate, John Milhiser.
John Milhiser, my roommate, saying that,
aren't these the sand people
that Anakin killed?
And he was like,
no, Jawa's are different
than sand people.
And then I was like,
but I don't think they are.
No, they are.
We know Jawa's.
Jawa's sold C-3PO and R2-D2
to Luke Skywalker.
Jawa's are in Tatooine.
Right, the Jawa'sas they're about three feet high
they're like a few apples high and they're little merchanty people and they like to trade and then
sand people they're like seven feet tall and they're like still hooded and dark right they
are also hooded and dark they do not have red eyes. They have robot eyes, but they have mummy bandages.
And they go like, and they
hit you with a stick. We saw
Jawas, and we were
familiar with them, so we know what those are.
I was confused. They're both
in A New Hope.
But these Jawas have,
I feel like the Jawas in Mandalorian, their
robes are black. They look a little different.
Yes.
We were scared of Jawas. They were in A robes are black. Like they look a little different. Yes. Yes.
Yeah, no, we were scared of Jawas.
They were in A New Hope, weren't they?
They were creepy.
And they're the ones that Anakin kills when he kills the women and the children
and has his breakdown.
I killed them all.
The women, the children.
He didn't care at all.
Jawas are like,
they're like the used car salesman species.
They were so creepy in this.
And I liked how they,
all of the special effects in this are
amazing like the costumes jawas are amazing their their eyes are so creepy and and they're just
scary and then when they got the egg i was really happy that it was just a big gooey yolk i thought
that was fun so angry i was like this mandalorian risked his life right for these guys to have a snack to have a goop snack
to have like a go-gurt and an egg
that to me felt like very
like Ewok throwback-y
kind of like what do they want like it was just
weird that they wanted to eat the egg
I was like that's fun
I also I feel like Star Wars
lives and dies
based on how much mystery there is in it
like not the show being a mystery,
but the amount of things that go kind of unexplained.
Like that's when Star Wars is working
where you're like, weird, what's in that egg?
And they don't take that much time explaining it.
All you need to know is like the egg
is the thing they're trying to get.
When Star Wars is bad,
it's monologues of people explaining everything.
Sure, right, right.
The egg is part of the sacred right
you know collection of orbs that's gonna the man you know yeah you're right and instead it's just
like look they're hungry the egg is tasty get them an egg they'll get you your thing so i like that
like the first episode of mandalorian has a little too much explaining because it's all the like
what's the new mission what's the puck who's the suspect you know all that sort of stuff from here
on out like i feel like the second episode is them trying to show you how much that's
not going to be the formula because here's an episode with like very little dialogue and no
human faces in it it's like jawas oh yeah animatronic nick nolte mandalorian wearing a
helmet and baby yoda yep i liked that there was no talking. I was like,
I love it.
Yeah.
My favorite part is when baby Yoda was using the force to like save him from
the big thing.
It was so cute.
And then it was so cute.
And then he got so tuckered out.
He fell right asleep.
He gets real tuckered out.
I screamed.
That was really cute.
But that's also such a good moment of just like,
he's a guy who's trying his hardest not to fall for baby yoda which is tough how do you turn down that punam right yeah right but
baby yoda to him it's like an item he's retrieved he needs to think of it yes in a mercenary way i
was trained to just get the mission done but once baby yoda saves his life it's gonna be a little
hard is there a movie
that's because this is like feeling like a very similar i like just story concept to me like that
of like you have this tough guy and this cute thing and he has to protect it i mean there's a
but i mean i think that fevro has been up front that he was inspired by lone wolf and cub which
is like a classic japanese manga can we dork out on you for like a minute here yeah which
is like an old you know a samurai who's like you know tough and scary and a little baby that he
walks around with in a little baby carriage it's sort of like one of the great like kind of mythic
stories in japanese culture that's been like a long-running comic book series and they've made
like 30 movies about it's been adapted a bunch of times i feel like you know you have like the road like remember that you know like there's a lot of sort
of like you know father and son dick tracy the professional i just watched it right nicole how
good is dick tracy what a wild it's a lot of primary colors yeah it sure is i saw it in theaters
when i was a kid and i i don't remember anything except for just
like a flash of dick tracy but i don't think i understood what was going on at all in that movie
that is another movie uh you need to re-watch lauren okay i'm putting the list is getting
long fucking wild um dick dick tracy the movie feels like a 3 a.m dcm bitch show it sure does
what is everyone is trying to one-up the person who came out on stage before them feels like a 3 a.m. DCM bitch show. It sure does.
Everyone is trying to one up the person who came out on stage before them.
My thing is my head is the size of a wall.
Right.
And then Dustin Hoffman, an award winning
actor, plays a man who mumbles.
Yes.
I believe he shot that
scene the morning after he won
his Oscar.
That's hilarious.
Oh, my God.
Like, that's what's wild.
It's just Warren Beatty calling in all his favors.
Yeah.
And all these super respected actors are putting on dumb makeup and being like, well, I can't
let Al Pacino outstage me.
So they're coming out and being like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
Okay, I'm watching that.
Yeah, that's the whole movie.
It's so good.
It's so wild.
That's hilarious. And thenonna slithers around i know
singing steven sondheim songs that movie's it's wild fucking wild uh also that movie is made
while warren baity and madonna are fucking what whoa i didn't know they was fucking they were
fucking hard um this is why it was hard griffin i know it was hard thank you but if that dick tracy is like
everything we're gonna throw everything at you we're the mandalorians the opposite he's like
let's strip as much away as we can make it really simple um like little dialogue very little plot
right like let's just try and have it be very primary. And this is my heady nerd corner
I'd like to do for, like, 20 seconds.
The thing I like about this being so inspired
by Lone Wolf and Cub is Star Wars
is so much George Lucas taking, like,
let me look at, like, King Arthur,
you know, like, medieval sort of, like, myths,
and let me look at samurai stories,
and let me look at westerns,
and he's sort of combining
like cowboys and samurais and knights into one stew and i feel like mandalorian is getting back
to that like so much of the later star wars stuff is about star wars you know like the later films
are people trying to make things about what star wars used to be yeah and the prequels are george
lucas trying to explain Star Wars too much.
And this is like going back to the formula of like,
the Mandalorian's essentially a cowboy.
You know, the premise of the show
is essentially the samurai story
of having to take care of a baby.
I like that.
I like that it gets down to the fundamentals.
I agree.
Okay, chapter three, The Sin.
The Mandalorian accepts a new job from grief karga
feeling guilty for abandoning baby yoda for to the empire he turns back to attack the client's
base and rescue the baby this one was pretty intense yeah i'm admitting like look i can't
get over baby yoda like you know this is his save the cat moment. This is his. Right. Right. I've broken my own code,
my personal code and the code of my clan.
Mm-hmm.
Because love conquers all at the end of the day.
Yeah.
Okay, but I have questions.
So wait, why do the Mandalorians,
why are they a secret underground society?
Why are they always searching for metal,
for more armor?
How are they eating?
Who is the girl?
Who's this woman?
Just melting down metals who is she some of this is explained i can give you really basic feed round answers okay are we gonna watch
more or no yeah mars are we gonna watch more no plans to oh we okay so i expected so then i'll
give you these answers in the hopes that maybe encourage you to keep on watching because I think this series is good.
Okay.
These aren't spoilers.
I'm giving you the most basic world-building stuff.
What is it, eight episodes total, Griffin?
Yeah.
It's pretty short.
I might finish it, which is shocking.
If we finish it, we better talk about it.
That's true.
So the idea is that they're not like a species.
They're like a clan. They're not like a species.
They're like a clan.
They're like a creed.
They're all sort of bonded in the same sort of principles and kind of like warriors code.
And their big thing is wearing helmets and not taking them off.
That's like the number one rule of Fight Club for them.
It's almost like a monastery.
They're like warrior monks.
And rather than taking a vow of silence, it's like you can never show your face to anybody and as the show goes on there's more people who are like
come on take off the helmet please come on dude i'm not gonna do it show me your fucking face
but but the idea is that the empire while they were still strong led like a slaughter of the
mandalorians so now they're all living underground and only one of them will go up at a time.
You're seeing what little remains
of their previous like strong clan.
Only one of them will go up at a time
and they're mostly like hiding in the shadows
like Mando sort of like on the run.
So like Mando might go out, go grocery shopping.
It's a little like being in quarantine
and then come back down, feed everyone else.
Yeah, they're socially distanced, I suppose.
I never thought about that.
And so they all still have their basic roles
in their vestiges of their society.
So the lady is the one who makes the armor
and the armor is sort of their Scientology
rising up the ranks, going clear.
The more armor you have, the better armor it gets gets it's a signifier of what you've accomplished and that metal he gets paid in is so valuable to them because it's essentially like nazi gold
like they stole the metal that was their natural resource and then stamped it with their symbol
their swastikas so they're like how dare you
work for these people and he was like i felt like i had to get our stuff back we're already barely
making it okay i truly did not understand that fight i was like well he seems real mad it's a
little dense it's a little dense and i honestly didn't really get it and i i yeah i did not get
it until re-watching exactly and i was like okay i sort of i think the
first time you're watching too it's such a slick show it looks so fancy that you're just really
drawn in by how it looks like the first time you're watching you're like wow this is really
expensive and anytime baby you're you're also just sort of like where whenever he's not on screen
you're like where is baby yoda now? What's he thinking about?
I want to check in with him.
Like, you know, he's the guy.
Yeah.
And I feel like episode three is the breaking point in that way.
Because even though it's the episode that he's in the least, it's the episode that most solidifies, like, this show is going to be about Baby Yoda.
Like, everything changes at this point.
He's going to save him.
The die is cast. Every episode is just they are an unbreakable unit
and his priority in life is
keeping baby Yoda safe.
Another question. How did the other
Mandalorians know that this
Mandalorian was in trouble to come
fly in with jetpacks like the Rocketeer
to save him?
Okay, fair question.
Great thing to throw out.
Don't really know. Right,
Griffin? I don't think there's like...
I think it's maybe like...
He hasn't come home. He's not texting back.
Yeah, right.
And they also know that this Mandalorian
is kind of like...
He's a little bit of a cowboy.
He like runs off his own spirit.
He makes risky decisions.
So I think they're just a little concerned.
They sense that like sort of edge in him and the fact that he's already showing a little too much affection for Baby Yoda.
He's supposed to be impersonal.
And he's already letting Baby Yoda get to him a little bit.
That's sweet.
What did you guys think of Werner Herzog? Remember that?
That was fun. That was a fun cameo.
And he keeps coming back.
Oh, nice. Yeah.
Oh. We're gonna tell you
guys a little trivia you probably already know, but
for the listener at home.
Okay, so we kind of said the show is set five to
seven years after the events of Return of the Jedi.
Yeah, in season one, episode two,
when the Jawa drops the item on Mando's,
wait, his name is Mando?
Did I not catch that?
That's his nickname.
That's his nickname.
He's a Mandalorian named Mando?
That was the first draft.
It's like when people call me Whitey.
A distinctive bell clanging sound is heard this is a straight lift
from the classic looney tune style of comedy when a dropped anvil hits someone's head that's pretty
funny that's silly um during the first episode when the bounty is looking through the carbonite
bounties one of them is star wars creator george lucas oh i did not clock that. I didn't either.
According to Dave
Filoni, there was one
scene that required a large number of stormtroopers
but they didn't have enough costumes.
He ended up drafting members of the
501...
Oh my god.
501st.
I was like,
I've never seen it written like that.
Well, me neither.
500 and first.
500 and first.
It's not that common to be the 500 and first something.
This is the podcast where people are like,
Nicole Byer can't read.
The word you have to read are not real.
Let's be very clear.
It's so hard.
Oh my God.
So essentially they didn't have enough Stormtrooper costumes.
So there's a whole
fan club who specialize in making their own
Storm slash
Clone Trooper cosplay costumes.
I wonder if those people got a
rental fee. Probably not.
I hope so. They should have. I'll say this
too. The thing that's cool about those people
the 501 is
they do it for charity.
Oh that's beautiful
cause I was also skeptical
that actually is a surprising turn
like they have like different
like clubs in different cities
and states and whatever but they'll go to
conventions and they all have their
like really detailed
homemade suits and if
people pay to take photos with them
that's really fucked up why it's
501 yeah it's i mean the idea is they're riffing on like civil war reenactors oh they're like the
star wars version of civil war reenactors so they're trying to make it sound like it's a
militia honestly of all the wars i wouldn't't do Civil War. No. Anywho.
A little fraught, that one.
Okay,
Bryce Dallas Howard directed the episode
Chapter 4, Sanctuary, and her
dad, Ron Howard, directed Solo,
a Star Wars story. Oh, what? Keeping it
in the family. Yeah.
That's nice. That one's maybe my
favorite episode. Oh, that's your favorite,
Griff? I think that one and the finale are the two best ones.
Yeah, the finale is probably the best episode,
but that one is fun.
That one is...
Yeah, you guys, if you stick with it,
there's some guests that drop in,
some fun guests.
We might, we might.
Because now the format of the show is
Mando takes a job
and brings his kid to work with him.
Right, right.
And the kid's going gonna get in some hijinks
and maybe Amy
Sedaris is in an episode. You don't know.
Really? Eugene Cordero
is in the Bryce Dallas Howard episode.
Okay, you've piqued my interest. Adam Pally
is in an episode. Bill Burr. A lot of comedy people.
Oh, I forgot to mention
I loved that at the beginning of episode one
of this series when
Horatio Sanz and Brian
Posehn were in there.
I was like, this is like fun.
There's a lot of comedy people in it.
Horatio was that blue fish gill head guy.
No, he wasn't.
Yes, he was.
That's why I knew his voice.
And Brian was in the like speedy car thing they were in to get away from him.
Oh my God, I didn't realize.
Yeah.
But this is the other thing I like about Mandalorian is I think by the nature of it being a TV show and not a movie and how much like pressure they were putting on the movies.
This feels like Star Wars, like loosening its tie a little bit.
Yeah.
Yes.
And not.
We can have a little fun here.
Not having everything.
So seriously.
Yeah.
Like have to feed into the whole Skywalker myth or whatever.
Right.
You can just have.
Yeah.
I appreciated.
Skywalker myth or whatever.
Right.
You can just have like, yeah.
I appreciated,
I felt like that was like
Jon Favreau's
like taste coming through
with the like funny,
cool people
and all that stuff.
It was cool.
Also,
every time Baby Yoda
got out of his little bassinet,
I like,
would just grab my face
and be like,
oh no,
he should kill Ego for death.
I love him so much.
Nicole, at a certain point in the show, he gets a little ball that he plays with i mean no that happens right we've gotten that the ball
there's more ball stuff oh i love he gets a little a little soup bowl he gets a soup bowl
yes he drinks he drinks a little sort of oh yeah I've seen that meme where it's like the tea kind of...
It looks like a teacup, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
That's really cute.
Can I tell you folks a really sweet story?
Yeah.
So they did it all like practically with a puppet,
save for the stuff where he has to move like more
and, you know, digitally removing the puppeteer and stuff like that.
But their thought was,
oh, the puppet is just so the actors have something to work with
and then we'll replace it with CGI.
They weren't planning on keeping the puppet on camera.
And Werner Herzog did a scene with the puppet
and he went to Jon Favreau and he was like,
you must keep this puppet.
It would be a crime against humanity.
You are cowards if you do this.
You must have the puppet.
I think he called them cowards.
Oh my God.
He's amazing.
He was like, this puppet is heartbreaking.
It has a tragic humanity to it.
Yes.
You dare not erase it.
It's very accurate.
Yeah, he nailed it.
Well, The Mandalorian currently holds a 93% critic and audience score on Rotten Tomatoes,
being praised for its action scenes,
production value and world building. Um, Nicole, what's your score? What do you give it?
I think, okay. I really hated the first episode except for the last two minutes of it. Um,
but I'm going to give it like in the star Wars universe and eight, that's good. Eight out of 10.
Yes. Yes. How about you
guys? I mean, how do you rate it compared to your
other stuff that you've seen? Eight is right
where I'm at, I would say. Right?
Are you there, Griffin? Yeah. I'm at an eight
bordering on an 8.5.
8.5. You know?
As someone who likes most of Star Wars,
like, I even still think this is
higher tier Star Wars. I agree.
Yeah, like, I feel like whether I
care or not about it I give it an A
you know what I mean like it's like yeah this is
as well done as it gets like this is cool
and looks great and also
just on principle I'm like this is what I
want to see people doing with Star
Wars I want them to be telling little character
stories yeah I want to just to have
that sort of sense of mystery and travel
and all that sort of stuff i also just kind of like it's kind of what i want out of tv shows in general like i like that
the episodes are a little bit self-contained yeah i like that each episode is kind of its own movie
and like by nature of that the first episode's kind of a bummer because it has to do all the
table setting but after that each episode
sort of becomes a little self-contained and it's just like here's another trip yeah here's another
weekend for old mando and his baby and here's another fun person yeah well we're coming to the
end of our show yeah um but thank you guys so much well is there anything you would like to plug
besides obviously your your podcast blank check which is hilarious and great and very
popular. We try.
Thank you. So I feel like people know, but
is there anything else you would like to plug at this time?
Griffin, you're doing a million things. I mean,
you can read my writing on The Atlantic always.
I'm doing too much stuff online because
I live alone and I'm going crazy.
That's good. That's good. So you can
follow me on Twitter and Instagram.
I'm Griff Lightning on both and I'll post about all the stuff I'm doing, but I'm doing
a lot of live streams and stuff.
Yeah, the Arliss live stream.
The Arliss live stream every Sunday.
The tick is very canceled, but I still plug it because I'm very proud of it.
It's good.
Yeah.
And it's right there for you to watch.
Yeah.
And I'll say, Nicole, Nicole's going to be on Blank Check pretty soon.
We have an episode on the books.
Oh, good.
And Lauren, I will be pestering you about
coming on the show as well. I'm chilling in my house.
So let's do it.
Nicole, anything you want to plug?
Yes, I have a book coming
out June 2nd.
The link's in my bio
on Twitter and Instagram at Nicole
Byer. You can pre-order it.
Please use indie bookstore links
because that helps me more than
like another big company that you could get something from i won't say which one you can guess
but it's called hashtag very fat hashtag very brave the fat girl's guide to being brave and
not a melancholy down a dump sweeping fat girl in a bikini and it's a coffee table self-help book
i was just
seeing something online about ordering books online and how during this time especially people
should order from a specific bookstore that you know in your it's not like a big chain like a
local indie bookstore is the best place especially directly from them and not a website that gets
books from indie bookstores because then they get a cut if you go to directly to the store
that they get all the money and i think you benefit as well book pal i believe is a website hold on let me look
at it book pal i think is where you tell you you tell it where you are and it like sources around
and then tells you a local bookstore that's near you to order from i believe that's what it's called i'm sure if i'm wrong some nice
aggressive person on twitter will let me know uh yes there's so look for that and
i would like to plug my movie the wrong missy on netflix um i would like to um sort of brag a
little bit that it's the number one movie on Netflix right now
in most countries.
And it's really exciting.
So I didn't expect for that many people to watch it.
So I'm very excited for everyone to watch it.
And I hope you enjoy it.
I hope it makes you laugh.
And yeah, so that's all I want to plug right now.
And let's move into our five Star Wars segment yes here we have a nice review from
chris bt 74 it's called killing time space is vast and cold wow this is going to be really deep
on a long trip to the outer rim oh and finn kicked back in the cockpit of the millennium falcon
with not much to do i'm bored finn proclaimed we did ask for fan fiction pulling out his iphone Oh, yeah. Finn agreed. Wow. Where did your pants go. They both loved it. Laughing and Poe said, this is making me horny. Oh yeah, Finn agreed.
Wow, where did your pants go, dude?
What can I say, Poe shrugged.
Are you going to take off?
Are you going to take control of his joystick or what?
Oh yeah, yeah, yes.
Finn took it on.
Poe leaned back, relaxing.
Not a bad way to kill some time.
He said, smiling, five stars.
I liked that one.
Wow.
I loved that review.
It was like filthy, but like class filth.
Can I say?
That was really nice.
It was sweetly filthy, yeah.
Yeah.
If anything threatened to kill Blank Check at any stage,
it was, I think, our seventh episode ever
when we were still doing Phantom Menace.
I forced David to do it.
And we were out of ideas, to be clear. We were to do it. And we were out of ideas to be clear.
We were out of ideas. We had run out of things to talk
about. And by the way our
original pitch was we will only
talk about Phantom Menace indefinitely.
We'll do it. We could go on for years
and our producer was like 10 episodes
and by episode 7 I was already like
it's the fan fiction episode and I
made David listen to the dirtiest
fan fiction I could find and
I found a story about
Obi-Wan sucking off
Qui-Gon Jinn at a galactic
glory hole. Oh no.
That sounds good. I like it.
It's good. It's very
convoluted. It's kind of like a high society
thing like they have to do the glory hole
because like that's the procedure on that planet. It customs of the people they don't want to be disrespectful
they just kind of like oh no i guess we're gonna have to do this like it's it's that's hilarious
and neither one knows the other one is participating on the other side of the wall
and they they start figuring it out but but the beauty, because a lot of fan fiction like that,
you know,
it slides you in very like subtly and carefully.
It starts out kind of banal
before things start to steam up.
The opening line of this story was,
Qui-Gon Jinn stuck his penis through the hole.
That's the cold opening.
That sounds like something we would write,
honestly.
Those are very bold and disgusting and disturbing.
And it was very fun. But, and also way too easy for both of us, I think, to write fan bold and disgusting and disturbing. And it was very fun.
But and also way too easy for both of us, I think, to write.
Oh, absolutely.
It was a joy.
Have you guys ever tried?
I have not.
Me neither.
Yeah, I think you should.
Yeah, you should do fan fiction for whatever like thing you're talking about.
It'd be a fun little every episode.
Yeah.
Well, like, you know, like to do like if you did Nora Ephron and then do a Nora Ephron fan fiction of Tom
Hanks.
That would be perfect.
Right.
Yeah.
What if Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan ended up together?
We can write that speculative fan fiction,
a scenario that has never played out.
Oh my God.
Well,
thanks so much,
you guys.
That was so fun.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thanks for doing it. The treat was ours. It was so fun yes thank you thanks for doing it
oh the treat was ours so great to be here it was a delight to be invited on and i will say
a joy to re-watch these episodes if that's any encouragement for the two of you to finish
because i remember struggling through the first couple a little bit
and it was a surprise we'll see yeah in my mind i was like i love this whole series because it
ends so goddamn strong.
The ending is pretty great.
We both live with people who might be more inclined to want to keep watching.
Yes.
So I feel like that's part of it.
So maybe we will.
Yes.
We have plans for the next season.
It won't be Star Wars.
No.
We're in talks talking about what it might be.
It's going to be another insufferable franchise.
We're looking forward to the future of course and we'll see you then
bye
do you guys follow Amanda Bynes
on Instagram it's an interesting time
it makes me sad she's now pregnant and has a face tattoo and i her boyfriend's a little shady
she has a face tattoo yeah she got a heart tattoo here and yeah okay well i i think i have brought
her out before i'm sorry i don't know if you have, but she keeps trying to be like,
I'm okay and I'm going to come back.
And then she's like,
now I'm pregnant and I have face tattoos.
I know.
Wasn't she like thirsting after some celebrity on Maine
and then in the middle of the thirst
mentioned that she was pregnant?
Oh, I didn't see that.
She used to tweet about Obama thirstily all the time.
I'm not making that up.
She was always trying to get some on main.
She told Drake that Drake could murder her pussy.
And then she did an interview where the interviewer said,
what did you mean by that?
She was like, oh, that he could murder my pussy.
How to find the words.
Her commitment to the bit is is really impressive this is unrelated to
anything but how do you feel about drake having purses for his future wife i think that's so weird
don't like it i would be so upset if i was fine i was like oh my god drake loves me we like wooed
each other oh my god what's in this big ass closet a thousand purses ew yeah and you don't get to pick any of them out
so do you think maybe they're not for his future wife and drake just likes to prance around with
purses at night and i'm not saying that's bad i love that no that would actually be way more
interesting i think but if he was just like i wish men had nice purses it would make sense it feels
like because i thought that collection looked like an investment like yes buying these like expensive bags maybe someone was like these always sell for like
thousands more in the future and whatever it makes sense most of them are hermes bags
and chanel bags are the only purses that uh increase in value oh yes that's a good tip
yeah the only thing i know is that his he has a duplex closet, right? Like his closet has stairs.
It's like a two floor closet.
Oh, what the fuck?
I don't have enough clothes.
I'm so upset.
Oh, I do.
But like, I wouldn't want to be like,
where's this sequined ugly thing I bought?
Ugh, upstairs?
Yeah, too much work.
Can I throw out my theory?
Please.
I think he respects the artistry of purses.
Like, he's a fashion guy, you know?
That's a lot of purses.
And I think as a guy who understands style and, you know, collects sneakers and different clothing items,
is like, man, purses, I'm recognizing, like, the quality here.
I want to buy them.
I can't justify to the public why I own this many purses.
I have to say they're for my future
wife or he wants to dress up his future wife and control the way she looks that's what i love the
patriarchy that is what is unromantic about it if i started dating someone and then they were like
hey here's my closet of t-shirts i bought for my future husband. I'd be like, you're not waiting to meet your future husband
and find out what they like?
Yeah, it's super weird.
But a woman would never do that because the Patriot.
Although if someone had a closet full of t-shirts they wanted to give me,
I'd be happy.
That would be a great one.
I think I'd be more excited about that than purses.
I think I would take shoes.
I love shoes. But what if they had like all the wrong size? one i think i'd be more excited about that than purses yes i think i would take shoes i love
shoes but what if they had like all the wrong size i don't know it seems so complicated
well i wear i wear an 11 i got big old dogs i wear a 10 we're right there you do yeah yeah
how often do you get propositioned for feet pics it happens a lot to me not often enough
once okay one time in my like instagram
comments it was like on a pole dancing video or something and some man was like how about you do
one of just them toes and i was so excited well here's my question about it with and i wonder
what you guys think about foot fetishes but it's kind of it's uncomfortable to have someone um just
ask to see your feet but at the same time don't, I don't see feet as sexual.
So I sort of want to give into it and just go,
sure.
It's like,
it's no skin off my nose.
Fine.
Here they are.
Yeah.
I can get a lot of money that way.
Uh,
I found out recently in my weekly self Googling that,
that I am on wiki feet men.
Oh,
good.
Not from any of my work because I was like i don't think i've ever taken
my shoes off on camera uh it is in fact a tweet i posted like eight years ago they will find
anything yes yeah wait lauren are you on wiki feet i have a five star rating oh
wow when i finally found out i was on WikiFeet, my rating was bad feet.
No way.
What's your rating?
Well, now I don't know, but I tweeted.
I was like, I have bad feet.
Can people upvote my feet?
They need to.
Yeah.
Everyone needs to go give us five stars on our feet.
Don't worry about reviewing the podcast.
It is one of those things, where it's like i agree with
you where i'm like take as many pictures of my feet as you want do whatever you want with them
i don't care it doesn't feel like personal or you know vulnerable to me but also i just can't
like with no judgment you can't get there few parts of the human body i find less erotic than
the foot i agree it seems like if you're gonna have
a very very specific thing that you need to deal with i guess there it's an easier like feet it's
okay you can get pictures of feet i guess it just doesn't strike me as i don't know it's weird how
it becomes such an outsized thing for feet people yes right yeah again without judgment it's just no i have a
friend who sent um some used keds to a guy for uh for a few hundred bucks those and those shoes
only cost like 20 bucks so it was like yeah wow okay i often think about doing things like that
because now i have a ton of time me too i'm like i mean if you like brown feet that aren't that cute, I'll send you pictures of my feet.
I'll send you my nasty dirt shoes.
I think there's a market for your exact feet.
I think a lot of people think they're very attractive.
I'm sure of it.
Thank you.
Four stars on WikiFeet.
Just look it up.
Four stars is great.
Wow.
Thank you.
That's a great rating.
Better than Griffin Newman.
No offense.
I'm 3.5.
I'm not ranking pretty well.
I got to try to bump it up i need to maybe
post some more i need to submit photos directly to them well this is the thing i i've done it
as a test a couple times if you post a picture of your feet in your instagram story they'll be
up there really soon anybody i believe this this they will get up there someone will put them up
yeah if you post a picture of your feet in your stores, I'll be up there. That's really funny.
Let's do it.
I love that you've done that.
That was a HeadGum Podcast.