Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Thor (w/ Eugene Cordero)

Episode Date: March 22, 2022

This week on the pod, Nicole and Lauren explore the fantastical ins and outs of 2011's Thor (dir. Kenneth Branagh). For their first journey to Asgard, they decided to bring along Eugene Cordero (Casey in the Disney+ series Loki) to fill in the gaps in their knowledge of everyone's favorite "himbo god."  Next week's movie: Captain America, The First Avenger (2011) Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Nicole and Lauren to read on the pod! Follow the podcast on Letterboxd. Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. It's not easy to do what you did. You made my men look like a bunch of minimum wage mall cops. That's hurtful. Would you like to tell me where you received your training? Afghanistan? Chechnya? Who are you?

I have sacrificed much to achieve peace. For through your arrogance and stupidity, you have opened these peaceful realms and innocent lives to the horror and devastation of war. You are a vain, greedy, cruel boy. And you are an old man and a fool! You're unworthy! Father. I am!

I now take from you your power! And I cast you out! Please open your eyes Oh no, this is Earth, isn't it? Where did it come from? Your ancestors called it magic And you call it science I come from a place where they're one and the same he has disobeyed his king

his fate is in his own hands now I will end this. Well, we're doing it. Okay, so this is Newcomers, and we're doing the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I don't... I... I... I... My name is Lauren Lapkus. This is Nicole Byer. We have never seen any of these films,

and we are going to tell you what we think of them. This is the third episode of the fifth season. We're working our way through the whole universe. We're skipping some of the universe, but we have to for the sake of our brains and for time. Because there's too many movies. There's too many. And we have guests who are fellow newcomers, some who are super fans, and sometimes even people who've contributed to the films.

And today we're discussing the fourth MCU film, if you could call it that. Thor. Thor from 2011. Thor is available with a subscription to Disney+. You can watch it for a fee on Amazon, Apple TV, Google Play, and Vudu. We're going to spoil this shitty fucking movie. I hated this. Well, this one,

just to give our quick thoughts before we bring in our guest, this one is very Lord of the Rings. So Lord of the Rings. I couldn't handle it. Loki, I was just like, okay, so I get it. He's like this demon child with like black hair

and nobody likes him and then Thor is the blonde and we all fucking love him. And I was just like this, why? Why is Loki? I just, I didn't understand anything that was happening.

I didn't get that either and I'd like our guest to tell us if he maybe has some ideas about that. But when we meet them as children, I didn't really get that there was a difference between them oh see i was like one of them has to be adopted because thor looks like dati loki does not look like dati and he's like kind of slightly mean to loki yeah well you know my main thought was I wish there was more present day stuff, less lore.

But we didn't. That's not how it worked out. And by the way, I watched this film. Well, quote unquote, watched it twice. The first time I watched it, I didn't pay any attention. I was like, I have to watch it again because I wasn't paying attention. So I did my due diligence and I have spent four hours watching this film. I started it.

Today's Monday. I started this film on Sunday night and then finished it. Oh, wait, that makes sense. No, Saturday night. I started Saturday night and then finished it this morning. Wow, that's a lot. I just didn't want to finish. Sometimes for me, since we're trying to really get what's going on and pay close attention,

it's easier for me to watch it in pieces because I can focus, come back, take a break, focus again. Yes, because two hours to focus on... I watched it with a friend and at one point there was a runner of jokes and I was like, wait, is this a joke? Is that why they keep

doing this? I don't even know if i caught that it was when he was human and he was like i'm strong and then like got tased or like i'm human and i'm strong i got hit by a car and i was like oh are they like really trying to hammer home that he's like not a god anymore and then also i didn't realize he was a god until that drunk man was like i don't believe you're the god offender i thought he was an alien for a long time i thought he was an god until that drunk man was like i don't believe you're the god offender i thought he was an alien for a long time with a fucking cape okay let's bring our guest in we gotta bring our guest we're so excited for our guest today eugene cordero eugene is an actor writer comedian who's appeared on various film and television

projects including well i mean look kings of summer drunk history tacoma fd crawl show good place mandalorian the list is much longer than a king kong oh wait no the mandalorian's not mcu star wars cu he's also currently starring as casey in the tv series loki which is why we're so excited to get into the thor film with him today oh Oh my God, Eugene. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. This is the best movie of the whole entire MCU. Oh my God, wait. Wait, is this real? I do not believe that.

No. Okay, thank God. It does start the lore of the lore that I'm part of. Yeah, I want to know more about that. Can you tell us about Loki? Tell us about Loki. We obviously don't know. The series?

So it follows... And the man. We'll make you tell us about the man. You want me to talk about Loki the character or Tom Hiddleston? I can talk about Hiddleston too. He's the best. But Loki the series kind of follows him kind of, uh, post Avengers, um, one of the Avengers films that you haven't watched yet. Um, but, uh, there's a moment in one of those films that, uh, kind of changes everything.

Wow. That's very vague. A little ominous, and I'm intrigued. So basically it follows that and then how he's able to kind of, you see it a little bit in this first film, a little bit, but it kind of explores like the complicated side of him as a character and where he's from and how he kind of chooses to do things. And I mean, as the films keep going too and the more you see, he gets more likable rather than as villainous as he kind of is in this one in Thor.

I have a question about his lineage. So you said half ice giant. So like, what is the other half? Because wasn't he a baby that was found in the Ice Age? Yeah, I don't know. I think he was found in the Ice Place. He had, I mean, those are his adopted parents. You got to assume he's half normal looking or whatever that is.

Yeah, but I'm like, who fucked the ice? Yeah, he had googly eyes. He kind of has like, he has like Mr. Potato Head eyes in it. So that's part of it. He's half Potato Head. Half Potato Head. I can suspend my disbelief. A potato fucked that ice.

Yeah. I can really believe that. And Loki was born. I don't. Yeah, I'm not super positive. I mean, I guess I should know who his mom is, but, you know. No, that's okay. It's okay.

How familiar were you with Marvel before all of this? I believe there was a while where I think i've i saw all the movies as they came out and then that kind of i don't know when that stopped i think when they started making a bunch like at once and you felt like it was too many and it was too many yeah so then i just i and then i started kind of picking and choosing. I love the Avengers. Once we got into like, you know, the group stuff,

I was like, cool, cool, cool. But the individual ones, I don't think I would see as, as often. So you don't like a first beat,

second beats. You like a group game. I'm just all about these group games. You know what I'm saying? Like, uh, I'm just like sounded movements. I want to see,

I want to see Thor and Hawkeye do sounded movement. I just said the other day that TikToks were people like, you know where people like put on like a sound cue and they do a different thing over it, you know?

I decided it's a second beat because you're mapping the idea of the audio with an idea that you have and making them one thing. So it's kind of, because I always am like, how do people even come up

with this TikTok? Where do they come up with the, how do people even come up with this TikTok? Where do they come up with the, how do they, do they figure out the audio first and then come up with what they want it to be about? Do you know anything about this? I do know about this, but I do not know how they came up with the bit.

But I guess it's like, do more people go, I want to do a TikTok about this. Now I need to find an audio cue that somewhat connects somehow with this idea. I feel like you find the audio cue first and then come up with the idea.

I feel like everybody's like, this is a cool audio cue. Now I can make it about something weird. Okay, okay, okay. That was my big mind-blowing moment. I was like, it's like suckin' beats. But I don't like the the um tiktok stuff where they point to things that oh i hate that very very much signs you're depressed like you don't go outside you don't play friends it's like it's just like some girl like dancing and they're still dancing to it i'm like this is not

this is not it's not good um also i want to ask you what your character is like on loki do you play a sort of superhero character i don't i i play a normal every i i play the the cat dennings of the series i love it yeah yeah i have like a cat denning part. So it's kind of like, you know, everything's happening around me and I'm, you know. And you're like, okay. I'm part of it, but I'm like, oh boy. You comment on the craziness. You're like, boy, oh boy, what's in the sky?

I actually do comment on the craziness. I love that. And got to call things that are like very important in the mcu stupid which is fun that's very fun but when you when you do audition for these things they don't tell you what it is until you do it did you not know what it was so i did not know what it was interesting there was inklings just because i kind of know the world and what was coming out yeah so they have like a code name for loki were they like dobi they were like high key yeah yeah they were were the kilo no uh i think it was called i think the first season it was called

the architect oh wow that's really gonna throw you which i would have loved to do whatever that sounds good yeah just an architect really dealing with life just like an architect just like really you know not as developed as he is now in the series which i i think he's great i mean i think tom is great in it um this was a very dramatic yeah thor was a very dramatic version of any i remember seeing this when it came out because i remember seeing the iron mans and being like cool cool cool cool cool and then this came out and i was like great and then it was very kenneth bruno it is it's super dramatic and so you're saying that the loki series has more humor or is a little lighter is a little bit lighter um i think it has a little bit more of a mix i think it just is more it's now what 11 years later so they've kind of found their thing yeah like as

across the board and then like things deviate from what they've created, but it's still kind of within the world, if that makes sense. Where when this movie came out, it was still kind of like, yeah, do whatever you want, Kenneth Borano, you know, and he made, he made Othello, you know what I mean? It was very dramatic at times. Yeah. And interesting. very dramatic at times yeah and interesting i think that the drama is it's hard for me as a viewer um sometimes when it gets too serious because i'm aware that it's also just fun yeah and i like when it's a little more fun like i think i was so like so far or what we watched well no this is the third episode so we've watched iron man one and two yeah um which

this movie made me long for iron yeah yeah iron man you're like oh it's funny and fun yeah and then uh and then like a lot of extra stuff but like still funny and funny ish yeah and then you know later on when you get to like guardians of the galaxy and stuff then it's just like a bunch of goofs i'm looking forward to that are we watching that leah okay we will watch that eventually i feel like vaguely familiar with that but it's it's kind of amazing how much i don't know like i feel like it's been in the zeitgeist for so long that i'm like i i know like two things about it groot and like the music is current or something or like it's like a mixtape or something yeah there's a mixtape there's a raccoon and now there's a ride yeah yeah but all of these you, and I think the further they went into the universe, like Chris Helmsworth eventually gets to do a bunch of bits and have more fun.

But yeah, I think then it was like very they cast it very dramatically. Yeah. Like a dramatic actor or was he before this? I don't know. Because I do feel like he is someone who i know for having more of a sense of humor now yeah yeah yeah i feel like now you know him for having a sense yeah but i feel like before thor maybe he was just doing drama yeah yeah he might have just been straight up drama he's from australia right oh he well he had a curious accent that was different than his dad's that was different than

loki's sure yeah yeah everybody kind of did their thing in this one okay well let's get into the daily bugle exactly what i was gonna say the daily bugle is our news segment recapping what's going on in the m. You really did your research. Well, we didn't make it up. Yeah, we didn't do this. Okay. We were slowly learning things. Okay, so Kanye West posted and later deleted an Instagram depicting himself and

Pete Davidson as Tony Stark and Steve Rogers on opposing sides of the Captain America Civil War poster with various other celebrities on their teams. That is ridiculous. Okay, so there's a poster. He's gone off the edge. He's harassing his soon-to-be ex-wife. He calls Pete Skeet, which I think is pretty funny. But the caption says the internet has still not found a decent picture of Skeet. That's mean. That's very mean. Pete's adorable. picture of skeet that's mean that's very mean pete's adorable he also i also read online that pete joined instagram and kanye followed him it's messy it's a messy messy place um so i don't know

why he made this marvel civil war the the theme of the situation but pete's team has who's on there billy eilish kim kardash i can't. Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish, Kid Cudi. Yeah. Oh my god, Kid Cudi's comments to Kanye on Instagram. He called him a dinosaur. Oh man, so good. Who's the little one? Oh, it's Taylor Swift. Who's the little one?

It's getting smaller and smaller. Anyways, that's interesting. Yeah, okay, so Pandora pandora jewelry released an avengers collection oh with charms and bracelets ew if anyone ever got me that as a present i would be livid i would break up with them would you be mad if anybody got you pandora period you're absolutely right i'd be like pandora really curious if it's just like i'm gonna start with a chain and then if this goes long enough you'll have little jewels you'll have

little uh marvel characters it's really the easiest thing for a man like if your wife loves pandora you are set because all you gotta do get in line and pick a new one every holiday that's it you're good yeah no yeah i feel like it's going to be one of those things that my son will get my wife uh valentine's day absolutely no that's cute actually and then every year just get another jewel i think that's actually cute for a kid i don't know i would return my child to wear it well, she doesn't want to wear it. She's just going to have to wear it out, and he'll be like, where's all my jewels? We ain't never wearing this. Wait, some of the charms are Infinity Stones, Thor's hammer, Captain America's shield, and Tony Stark's arc reactor.

We got to see this. I'm copying it so that Eugene can see this. I mean, Trish's birthday's coming. I might just go all four hammers. Ew. And the website says, assemble your heroes. And they have colors.

I don't think that's good. Oh, yeah. Gross. I feel like it should be all silver or gold. Ew, there's a Hulk. Oh, my God. There's a Black Panther taking a knee. Who is this person? Because this is a really who is this person because this is a really like

to me this is such a specific person but it must be so unspecific that it's a lot of people because they wouldn't make this if there wouldn't be a huge audience for this yeah i guess there's just a bunch of marvel heads out there this is sick to look at i would be so mad it's really not for me now i could see a nerdy high schooler enjoying this and then that feels like a good gift for them that's expensive for a kid so i don't know yeah i don't know i'm so sorry i'm grabbing my credit card like so um just oh my gosh oh they also have harry potter star wars okay they've really branched out since i've checked in oh my god how often do you check in yeah when did you check in well um i would say there was a pandora store at the mall in my hometown or there still is i think

at the mall in my hometown that i uh i'm vaguely aware of. And my aunt was giving me, when I was growing up, when I was like, I must have been in high school, she gave me troll beads, which was a probably knockoff of Pandora. I don't know. And then she would send me a troll bead every once in a while. Now, it's more of a keepsake than something I'd wear out, but I did it pretty good. I got to say, the gold gay man from Star Wars, his little charm's very cute. I did it for you I gotta say

the gold gay man from Star Wars his little charm is very cute the gold gay man? oh let me see how do I find Star Wars oh collections oh let me see that Disney collection yeah I clicked on

Star Wars look they're not bad. They aren't. I'm like kind of into them. Well, the Star Wars ones at least stay in that kind of silver. Yeah, they're all in the same vibe. Like you wouldn't necessarily see it right away. I think that's actually a little classier.

I think so too. And also, Nicole, you and I both wear Crocs. So I feel like it's fair to say that we could easily end up with one of these on our list. Absolutely. Yeah, I do see it in my future. My Crocs, my Pandora charm bracelet. Oh my God. I kind of like the Iron Man one.

He has two diamonds, like little diamonds on his hands and he's pushing out. That's hilarious. Okay. I can't. Moving on. Yeah and he's pushing out that's hilarious okay i can't moving on yeah that's a lot um another bit of daily bugle news is that the jeopardy college championship featured a marvel category so those kids see that feels unfair to me because i could be the smartest kid in my college and not have seen those films and i'd'd be screwed. You have to have a wide range of knowledge. And that's how you become a Jeopardy! champion.

Let's take a break. And we're back. Okay. So Thor was written by Ashley Edward Miller, who's not a woman. Don't get your hopes up. Yeah, so a man, a man, and then another man, Zach Stentz, and then another man, Don Payne, wrote it. And then Kenneth, how do I say that last name? Barana?

Barana directed it. It was released May 6, 2011. And Thor was not nominated for many awards and i love that well it did win a saturn award for best costume hey that's good whatever that is okay so let's jump into our summary here thor came out in 2011 here we go this is uh jane foster played by natalie portman and eric selvig stellan stars scars guard ohård. Ooh, is that Alex Skarsgård's daddy? Yes. Oh, I love it.

Right? I don't know. Is it? I think it is. Is it his dad? Let's find out. It is. And Darcy Lewis, Kat Denning, their intern,

conduct research on an Aurora Borealis-type phenomenon in New Mexico. Suddenly, a large tornado slash lightning storm develops and they drive towards it to investigate the van hits something a semi conscious muscular blonde man uh i like i liked the mixing of present day with space i mean like well here's i'm confused like he's a Like, where where is his land in the past? Yeah, it's he's in space in the past because it's 965 A.D. So he's living in a different dimension.

Yeah. They are aliens. Oh, he is an alien. I thought he was a god. Oh, so it's our perception. Like, we wrote a book being like that was the thor the god of thunder just to make it make sense and really it was an alien interesting okay i sort of like that okay okay well in 965 a.d odin anthony hopkins which i did not clock king of asgard he's got a very new look in this he has yeah he's got

an eye patch long hair and i was like okay uh wages war against the frost giants of joe to him how do i say that i uh how do you say it joe tunheim joe tunheim joe tunheim joe tunheim and then their leader i got all the great words, Luffy. You really did? It's as if I didn't watch the movie. I didn't retain any of these names. The conquering of the nine worlds. You haven't read a sentence that makes sense.

I sure haven't. Starting with the earth, the Asgardian warriors defeat the frost giants in Norway? In Norway? Just normal Norway? Okay. Normal Norway. Just regular old Norway at the time. Well, I'm like, so they're from Jotunheim, and then they went to Norway?

Yeah, I don't know. I think they fought on earth oh i guess earth is like neutral territory for everybody in all of these movies that's what it seems as such they're like we don't give a fuck if we destroy earth but like we should try to save it anyway yeah um so they seize the source of their power the casket of ancient winters that's a first draft they return to asgard and odin speaks to his two sons the energetic thor and the more thoughtful loki odin says both of them are worthy but only one could be king of asgard oh my god okay so yeah this part i'm like you know trying to keep it together at this point. I'm just like, there's the little sons. The little boys are acting their butts off.

Oh, they are really going for it. Father, I'll do whatever it takes or whatever. Screaming. Really intense. All right. So in the present day, the adult Thor, Chris Hemsworth, is about to be formally recognized as Crown Prince. Loki, Tom Hiddleston, looks on enviously. Before Odin can follow through

the with the proclamation he senses intruders frost giants infiltrate the secure rooms that hold the casket however loki sends the destroyer and automaton to kill all three examining the remains odin odin seems calm yet thor is angry and wants to attack. Yeah, I mean, that happened. Thor's personality, I feel is a little bit not what I expected, I

think. I think I thought he'd be more likable. Oh, really? It's exactly what I expected. I was like, he's a very handsome man. Of course, he's fucking annoying. Of course, he has nothing to say. He's like an handsome man of course he's fucking annoying of course he's like has nothing to say he's like an idiot kind of like I mean yeah they made him they made him a jock yeah they made him

a jock to start off or they you know they wanted him to come off as kind of like this like hot headed jock who's like strong and just wants to kill things and destroy things yeah but then it's so annoying when he and Natalie Portman fall in love or whatever. I'm like, what?

Well, it's because he softens and then he turns a corner and then he changes and then his hammer's like, I sense that my owner is nicer. I didn't like that she liked him, honestly. I feel like Thor's just hot enough that you can go, I don't mind

red flags. Yeah, like, whatever. I'm gonna fuck this god and just see what happens. It's fine. He might be annoying, but he doesn't know what's going on. He's never been here. It's tough because you think about that. He's got this asshole quality to him. He's a jock. He shows up. He

doesn't listen to anybody. he says he's from somewhere else and everybody is loves him and it's like rude it's not fair it's not fair yeah i've been here the whole time there's guys that are just here and nobody wants to love me yeah the fuck we should have seen like the guy who has a crush on Natalie Portman being like, oh, yeah. The guy who's like, I got your milk. Yeah. And she's like, get away. That's why we need female writers in the Marvel writing room.

Yes. We need more. Okay. So hopefully that happens later. I think it does. Okay, cool. The woman, I think there's a woman who, I don't know. Thor gathers loki

and his close friends the warriors three uh-oh volstagg fandrol you literally get every hard and sif uh jamie alexander nicole's just giving us a prescription at this point. Ball stack, pond girl, Hulk and Sif. Everything I've had to read is very hard. They ride out to the Bifrost Bridge. The gatekeeper. That's a cool bridge. Himdall. What?

It's a cool brick? The bridge. I love the bridge. Oh, I did like the bridge. I thought that was like Mario Rainbow Road vibes. I liked when they walked on it and turned colors. And I love that Idris thought that was like Mario Rainbow Road vibes I liked when they walked on it and turned colors And I love that Idris Elba was there I was like yes He's so cute

I mean you barely see his face though But you know he's there You see those juicy lips You hear the voice Yeah So he allows them to pass And the six are transported to the Frost Giants planet. Jotunheim.

They confront Luffy, the Frost Giants leader. Loki managed to persuade his brother into accepting Luffy's offer to leave peacefully. However, Thor reacts brashly to a Frost Giants insult, which is like, he called him a princess. And I was like that sets him off like who cares that yeah like that kind of thing royalty that kind of thing like just doesn't do it for me you know what i mean like it needs to be like something like something has to happen like that feels very catering to children or something like which maybe it is i don't know but it feels like a lot of adults love this so it's very like

80s because like uh in back to the future he gets called chicken he's like chicken and then like loses his mind yeah yeah princess i mean it's it's that classic i mean it is still kind of the jock mentality that they have yeah for thor of just kind of like, what'd you say? What did you say? It is wild that Thor just like, was like, fuck this. And then everyone starts fighting. And then during the battle,

Loki experiences an unusual reaction when he's touched by a frost giant. So it burns everybody else. And then Loki just like, I don't know, absorbs it. And it's just like, I guess I'm one of you. Yeah.

I liked also that one of the ice giants kind of looks at him like huh and then they just kind of part ways like uh you my cousin so odin arrives and intervenes to save the warriors apologizing to lofi for lofi which one is lofi i mean that nothing sounds right for the intrusion and attempting to reinstate peace but lofi lafi luffy states that they are beyond reason lufa lufa lufa spun that they're beyond reason the frost giants are now at war with osgard so then odin takes the young asgardians home guardian's home. Asgard. Furious that Thor has dragged Asgard back into war. He tells Thor that he's not fit to be king.

He strips his powers, banishes him to Earth, and sends his hammer. His hammer has a name. Majorn. Majorn. It literally has an O with a line through it, so're fucked i'm pronouncing this i have no idea how to pronounce that

it's like an ikea thing yeah it does look like an ikea bed or something so then he goes whoever holds this hammer if he he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor. Okay. Now, this is very sword in the stone. Everyone's trying to get, earlier in the film, everyone's trying to get the sword out of the thing. Like in present day or whatever. And then we have, you know, only one person can do it. On Earth, Thor is immediately hit by Jane Foster's van.

Thor groggily questions where he is and becomes aggressive to the point that Darcy tases him, knocking him out. The three scientists load him into their van and take him to the hospital. Once again, he starts fighting as he wakes up, and he's eventually tranquilized. Selvig tries to get Jane to leave him be, saying he's some kind of nut, but she's curious and attracted to him. Oh boy.

He's fully locked up in the hospital. She's like, ooh. I mean, I get like that, you know? A yeah do you just something you're like i don't know there's something about him she's like i could fix him yeah um okay so then the scientists return to their outpost in town they discover shield agents confiscating all their equipment and research they meet back up with thor who's escaped from the hospital and like he escapes from the hospital and nobody's looking for him no he caused a lot of damage and everyone is like oh no hospital employees who are throwing he was throwing them they were trying to push him it was extremely intense then

no one cares no one gave a shit so then Jane gives him civilian clothes after overhearing locals discuss a satellite crash thor decides to go and jane accompanies him wait does she doesn't she go go alone i would i believe this moment oh yes yes yes yes i forgot at the crash site a crowd of local townspeople has gathered to try and lift the hammer from the crater. Oh, so it was later. Later, S.H.I.E.L.D. arrives and takes over the site, setting up a temporary camp to study the hammer. After dark, Jane and Thor arrive on the scene.

After beating up many agents, Thor finally reaches the hammer but is unable to lift it. This was devastating. This was like very E.T. slash he was in a hamster cage. He's like running through tubes, distraught, drops to the ground and putting up no fight as S.H.I.E.L.D. agents close in to take him. There was also so much rain. So much rain. He's very wet. He's very dirty.

And then the S.H.I.E.L.D. agent goes, show's over. And I was like, oh, that's so mean. This man is like really like not OK. and I was like oh that's so mean this man is like really like not okay also the shield agent wasn't part of the fight but yet he's standing in the rain it's like get undercover you don't need to do this go inside and find a window yeah one thing I kind of like so far as we watch these things is when you see actors from other ones coming in like Greg or Clark Gregg being in this one I was was like, oh, it's him. He's this guy. Now I'm starting

to put it together. That's kind of fun. There was a man with an arrow and I was like, I think he might be important later. Did you see who the actor was? No. Did you see who the actor was? I didn't catch that. Okay.

It's Jeremy Rennerner uh-huh oops sorry was i not supposed to say that out loud um but it is yeah that's good you can look in the credits yeah it's known uh okay so on asgard thor's four friends begin to suspect loki's got something to do with thor's banishment meanwhile lo Loki realizes that he's not as guardian. And Odin admits that Loki was taken from Jotunheim as an infant and raised as his own. Stressed, Odin falls into a coma-like state called Odin's Sleep. I did not catch that it was called Odin's Sleep. That's really funny.

Leaving Loki to become acting gay. And because he's just stressed, he's was called Odin's sleep. That's really funny. Leaving Loki to become acting king. And because he's just stressed, he's like, Odin's sleep! I got no sleepies! Back on Earth, Phil Coulson questions Thor, and when he leaves him alone briefly, Loki magically appears in the room. Loki tells Thor that Odin is dead,

and he cannot come back to Asgard, leaving Thor distraught. Selvig arrives and lies to the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents, telling them that Thor is Jacek's husband and is under the influence of steroids. Back in town, Selvig takes Thor out for a drink, and they bond. Later, Thor and Jacek go outside to gaze at the stars, and Thor explains the Nine Realms and the Bifrost Bridge to her. Aww.

Yeah, it's sweet, but also funny that all that man had to say was he's just on a bunch of steroids but I could take him back right and he's like yeah sure just don't get him drunk and I was like alright I know I feel like it's a pretty good excuse though cause he'd be like well that explains it you just kinda let it

that explains why he's able to fight off all of these shield agents so easily cause he's on roids he's got the roids in him yeah he's roided fight off all of these shield agents totally so easily because he's on roids he's got the roids in yeah he's roided up don't that's fine so loki freezes hemodal and uses the bifrost to meet with lufa it's revealed that loki was the one who let the frost giants into asgard he promises lofty that he'll let them into Asgard again to kill Odin and Lofty Luffy Luffy is like the guy who looks like a giant cigarette ash yes uh-huh okay he just okay here's my thing about like the frost giants so like they just have this

chill cold world but like what are they doing are they just sitting this chill, cold world. But like, what are they doing? Are they just sitting? Are they saddled? Like, are there stores? Do they do? Do they work? What are they doing? It feels like they're just waiting to kick someone's butt or something. Yeah.

They set it up very as though they're not real aliens on their own. But they do. If you look closely, if you pause it on their land, you'll a couple of stores there's like there's like a couple ice cream stores ice cream that's good yeah yeah but that's just called the diner and then and they've got pandora because they got you gotta get your ice um so then loki commands the destroyer to go to earth and kill thor which is a big swing that thing is huge and it reminds me of the sentinels from the x-men i feel like they keep doing marvel has a lot of things that are very similar like what the what are you saying so in x-men there's this thing called a sentinel

that is like a big thing that can kill mutants and it absorbs the mutants' power to use it against them. I mean, this doesn't do that, but it like shoots fire. It's a similar thing. It's like similar, yeah. Yeah. You saw those movies? I love the X-Men.

Okay. Yeah. So it's, I mean, it's still in the same kind of Marvel. I mean, you know, I used to read, I don't know, acting like I read them. I used to look at comic books. Because I liked the way it was drawn, but there was a lot of that kind of big machine drawn to fight the, you know, superheroes. So I think they, like, renamed them a bunch of different things so they can kind of use them in different ways. But it's basically huge, you know, indestructible machines. So Sif and the Warriors Three arrive in New Mexico.

I feel like I'm saying a riddle. Sif and the Warriors Three arrive in New Mexico to tell Thor the truth. Soon after, the Destroyer arrives and starts blasting everyone with a heat ray. Thor's friends fight the Destroyer while he and the three scientists attempt to get everyone away safely. Thor asks Loki, who can magically

see and hear what's going on from Asgard, to leave the humans alone in return for himself. This selfless act of protection proves him worthy to once again wield Mjolnir, which frees itself from the crater and returns to Thor's hand. He is restored to full life and vigor,

and once again fitted in his red cape and armor, he easily defeats the Destroyer. Wow. I mean, this is, like, cute. He gets, like, backhanded by the big machine thing, and then fucking Natalie Portman's like, well, boo-hoo, his face. He was so hot before that. I don't like this new scar on his face.

And then he gets his little hammy. And then she's like, is that what you always look like? And he's like, kind of. And she's like, I get it. She is like horny for him. She's totally horny. You kind of think that like everything she's been doing as a scientist was just to find a boyfriend

and then he puts his varsity jacket on and she's like oh my gosh um with loki's help the frost giants invade asgar through the portal, walking past the frozen Hemadol. But as Loftadoop goes to Odin's bedchamber and Loki double-crosses him and kills him, making himself out to be a hero, Hemadol manages to bring Thor back to Asgard. As Thor leaves Earth, he promises Jane he will return. I believe him.

I mean, we've seen it before. What's his name? Steve, I want to say Steve Jobs, before um what's his name steve i want to say steve jobs but that's not his name what's captain america's name steve jobs no it's steve jobs steve jobs steve jobs promised that lady he's gonna come back for a date and then fell into a coma he did and he came back but she's long dead we can assume so that he was too late well maybe not we did have a theory that maybe he'd meet her when she was 99 um and it's possible okay so wait did you guys watch um oh yeah well we watched it we were recording a little out of order we did watch that um oh you watched captain america i won't give

away our thoughts on that i guess but loki goes to bifrost to destroy Jotunheim. Thor tries to stop him and the two fight. Thor immobilizes Loki with Mjolnir and starts to destroy the Bifrost to stop the portal. When the bridge shatters, the two brothers fall into space, but Odin arrives and catches Thor. Loki admits defeat and allows himself to fall, disappearing into the void. Yeah, that was sad, but here's the thing. I don't get Loki's plan. I was confused a little bit where in the end we see. Well, I guess I'll wait a second to ask about that because. OK, OK, go ahead. So all seems back to normal in Asgard. Thor mourns for his brother and Mrs. Jane Foster, who he's unable to visit with

the Bifrost now destroyed. However, Hemondal, gazing out over the severed edge of the bridge, assures him that Jane is looking for him. Back on Earth, Jane is in a new S.H.I.E.L.D. lab with new equipment. And then here's the part where I was a little confused. So in the post-credits sequence, so after every movie, they have like a little thing that's like, here's what's going to happen next. Selvig meets Nick Fury, who is

Samuel L. Jackson, who we've seen in the other ones, and Fury shows him the Tesseract in a briefcase which he says could be a source of unlimited power. Loki appears in a reflection and reveals that not only is he alive, he's now controlling Selvig. So it was like he

says something and then Selvig says it was like he says something and then selvig says it and i'm like what so i guess they want my interest to be piqued it's i was just kind of like i would i didn't get i was like is he controlling him is he a hall is he in his imagination what's happening like is he a Tupac hologram? Yeah. Like what is he doing? Yeah. I mean, I guess we'll find out later. But Eugene, do you have any thoughts on that?

I mean, he has the ability. He's like, Loki is like the god of mischief. So he's able to kind of like appear like a hologram, like Tupac sometimes. And then he's also able to like mind control people other times. It feels like mischief should be lighter. Yeah, I think it eventually does get lighter. I think in this one,'s he's he's the main bad guy in the movie so i think they keep him pretty bad through this first uh

first attempt at thor story kind of yeah um this is yeah this is my no i wouldn't say this is my least favorite of the thor movies this is my No, I wouldn't say this is my least favorite Of the Thor movies, this is my second least favorite How many Thor movies are there? What's your least favorite? The next one that came out Was bad And then

The one that Taika did Which is the third one is awesome That's the one that Paul F f tompkins is honest yeah ragnarok is probably my favorite marvel movie oh are we watching that leah we are and we're skipping the dark world oh great oh okay and you should because that's that's that's it's not good there's only one we're skipping that i think is genuinely good but we'll get to that later wait which one are we skipping that's genuinely good iron man three but i've made you watch too many iron mans i'm trying to be democratic i think that's fair um paul said the taika one is really good it's so fun yeah it's

great okay well that's good he said it's also very it doesn't feel like the other ones which i think is the idea and why we like it gives you a nice break from all of the other ones and and how it does but yeah and and you get to see why helmsworth after that one becomes like oh he's a comedy guy yeah okay all right interesting well i'm wait okay i'm sorry can we just talk through lo's plan? It was really confusing to me. So he let his people in to kill Odin, but then kills them before they could kill Odin. Why? Well, because he does still feel like Odin is his dad.

Mm-hmm. And also wanted to come off as a hero and become the, he wanted to become. King. I mean, yeah, he wanted to become king. So if he could kill his real dad when they were, you know, there to kill him, then he's seen as a hero. Oh, I see. Okay. And then, so that didn't work out he's like oopsie daisy so then

he tries to kill the the cold planet yeah he always wanted to kill the cold planet why um so that there wouldn't be a war between the cold planet and their planet anymore and also i think that he's mad that he is part cold planet oh i see but then wasn't that thor's idea in the beginning yeah so then he so what what so he stole thor's idea just to do thor's idea without thor yeah so that he can become king and show that he's because you know that's the there was always that's the mischief part and also like odin, Odin was always so pro-Thor and not pro-Loki. Oh, yes, I forgot. So if Loki could do what Thor did, then he can be like, see, I can do what my brother does.

Oh, okay. And I can be king. Wow. So it's just some real issues where he's having, you know, identity queries and nobody's there to support him. He needs a therapist. I think all of this whole movie could have been avoided if they just told him who he was and let him speak to a professional.

I think all of Marvel movies could be dealt with with a therapist. Nicole, I'm about to laugh because it looks like your ceiling fan is like a beanie on top of your head and you're about to laugh because it looks like your ceiling fan is like a beanie on top of your head and you're about to fly. It's really funny. It's so funny.

I'm like, I have ideas. Okay, okay. So we know that Thor wasn't nominated for many awards. That's a very nice way to put it. But it did win a Saturn Award for Best Costume. And the film was moderately well received by critics, holding a 77% rating on Rotten Tomatoes and receiving a B-plus audience rating from CinemaScore. Interesting.

I would score it lower. At the time. Yeah, they didn't know what was to come. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In the Chicago Sun Times, this is really hard to read today. In the Chicago Sun Times, Richard Roper liked the film,

writing things in large part to a charming, funny, and winning performance from Australian actor Chris Hems. He was not charming in the title role. Thor is the most entertaining superhero debut since the original Spider-Man. Wow. Other major critics like Roger Ebert and A.O. Scott

largely panned the film. It has like a Shakespearean kind of vibe to it because of Kenneth Branagh directing it and also the story of it. And I think it was a little tough to kind of then bring also the comic book aspect to it. Yeah. Yeah.

But isn't that like the point? Yeah. Okay. We're going to take a quick break. And we're back. Now, it's time for our segment, Is Chris in This? This is the segment where we have a yes or no conversation about if a Chris was in this movie. Was a Chris in this film? I'm going to say yes.

A Chris was in this film. I mean, we had one of the big Chris's. We have Chris Hemsworth, and we're looking at Chris Evans, Chris Pine. Now, why is it all Chris's? But anyways, I would say if I was gonna add another Chris to this film,

I would add Christine Baranski as the love interest. Honestly, Christine Baranski, I think would be fabulous. Yeah. I think she's, I mean, not underrated. She stays working, but she's a, I love her so much. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

If you haven't seen The Birdcage, you gotta. Oh my God. I haven't watched it in so long. I need to watch it again. I watched it as a kid. I just rewatched it. It holds up. Yeah.

It does hold up. It's a fun movie. Yes. All I can think about is still i work hard for the money when he's cleaning uh-huh and then when he doesn't wear shoes and then he finally puts the money he's falling down it's so funny it's such a funny movie that's good well a second new segment is a kiss in this so

we're gonna have a yes or no conversation about if there's a kiss in this film or if we thought there needed to be more was there a kiss in this film? yes yeah there were I too at least right?

there was a there was a kiss on the hand and then it went to a kiss on the mouth yeah and I was like I thought there was gonna be a kiss on the mind. Yeah. And I was like, I thought there was going to be a kiss between Thor and homegirl who was in the Majestic Three.

What the fuck is their names? His friends. The ride or dies? Yeah, the ride or die threes. Yeah, his friends. Oh, her name is Sif. The Fast and Furious. No, Sif is, that's Sif.

Yeah. Yeah, I thought Thor and Sif had a thing going on but i guess not yeah i know i like that he was more interested in a human or like what just a normal girl she's just a normal girl i just couldn't wrap my brain around the way they spoke father well that's part of what's my hammer bores me not to be rude but you know what i mean like it's like that sort of takes me to like a different type of film that i'm just not i'm just like oh lots of history is coming at me now oh yeah you weren't ready for a history of of asgard and i mean we went so deep on lord of the Rings That like anything that feels like that

Kind of just It's really upsetting Bristle yeah Yeah It does have that long road Yeah Ahead vibe to it Yeah

Eugene I have a question Is there romance and kisses in Loki the series? Um Not Not romance so much um there's intrigue in there but it's not like is loki like in a bad marriage loki's like loki realizes that you know he's not happy where he is and he's trying to figure things out does he have an ice baby? He has an ice baby and it's just him and the ice baby in the studio apartment.

Wow. And then he gets his three other, he gets two other buddies and then they all raise the baby. Imagine the writers were in here and they're like, fuck, that's where we were going. That actually is good. Tom Hiddleston, Tom Selleck

and Tom Holland. if they did three men and a baby but it was all superheroes and a super baby i love that i would be into it i would watch that like the diaper like shoots off the kid and they're like eugene i have another question how protected are your scripts and stuff? Like, do you get sides and that's when you know what happens? Or do you guys do table reads? No table reads, just the sides. I get for, I got the sides before I shot and then got the scripts in my trailer.

So I could read the whole thing while I was in my trailer, but Oh, interesting. And then I could take them home afterwards, but I had to like sign them out. Oh, Oh, wow.

I mean, yeah, that's how you keep the entry in the lore. You don't let nobody talk about it, but was that hard as an actor to just like get the sides like day of and work? Um, no, I mean, as an actor to just like get the sides like day of and work um no i mean because i i think it was one of those things for this where i got i got the full rundown of the whole series from um from tom himself so when i showed up um tom and i had done kong yes gull island together and became uh buddies so he was excited

and i was excited to be there and when i got to set he was like did you read everything and i go oh i didn't get everything he goes great so then he i went into his trailer and he explained the whole series oh cool that's really helpful that is super helpful a lot and i got so i got very excited about what the series is and was and then could kind of play in it but again because my character was kind of that kind of kat dennings ish character in the series i didn't have to play into the lore so much as play into like what I did every day, you know, at my job.

Right. Um, so, you know, it was just a lot of that, which was also fun and great, but I have, you know,

one last question. How big is Tom Hiddleston's trailer? Oh, you mean, is it like Vin Diesel's like, uh, two, two piecer and then a gym? Uh, no, it's a, it's a one piece. Vin Diesel's two-piecer and then a gym?

No, it's a one-piecer. Wait, Vin Diesel has a two-piecer and a gym? Yeah, Vin Diesel has like, according to what I heard, was that there's like two trailers and then next, and then in between both trailers is a gym outside. Wow. Is how his setup was. So he's like, I'm going to go in my other room for a little bit. And then he'll just trailers is a gym outside. Wow. Is how his setup was. So he's like, I'm going to go in my other room for a little bit.

And then he'll just cross through his gym. I'm going to go in there. Maybe I'll lift a weight, go to my other room. That's really funny. That's what I heard. But that's the rumor of what Vin Diesel does. Fancy. That's very funny.

Yeah. Should we read a little trivia? Ooh, hell yeah, baby. Okay. So Tom Hiddleston originally auditioned to be Thor before landing the role of Thor's younger adopted brother, Loki. That's crazy. I don't see it.

No, it makes much more sense. Yes. The Norwegian village, aw, Tonsberg, seen in a flashback as the same one the Red Skull invades to steal the Tesseract in Captain America the First Avenger. Oh. Also released in 2011. That's when it starts picking up thor marks the introduction of jeremy renner as clint barton

aka hawkeye in a blink and you miss it moment i didn't miss it i was like i clocked this man with a fucking arrow because that's wild wow um and kenneth i can't say his last name brana brana i think that's brana semi-autobiographical film belfast the lead character buddy can be seen reading a thor comic and a not so subtle nod to his future directing this oh i i have um heard that movie's really good have you guys seen that movie oh i also heard it was really good. Have you guys seen that movie? Oh, I also heard it was really good. Yeah. I also heard. Great. I did not see it. We have the screeners. I am excited to watch or I think it was streaming somewhere too.

I didn't realize it was somehow biographical of Kenneth Branagh either. I didn't know anything about it, but I'm curious. I'm curious. I will check that out. Absolutely. Are you auditioning for a kind of bruno movie i will be watching that tonight um no but i actually i have been wanting to watch it forever i just it always feels like a big production to like watch a really good movie at night like i

think like yeah i just like unwind watching horrible stuff. And then I don't know, like I'm like, oh, should I watch one of these amazing Oscar nominated films? Also, isn't it one of the ones that, is it in black and white? Well, at least all the images I've seen are.

Yeah. So as soon as it was in black and white, I'm like, I don't know if I have time for this right now. If I have time for this. It's like subtitles, black and white. So you have to really focus, you know? Yeah.

But all these movies are so good, apparently, that we should. Sure. I mean, here I am. This is part of it, too, is I'll be laying down watching this, Thor, and going like, I want to watch an Oscar-nominated film,

but I have to make time to watch Thor. Gotta make time. Gotta make the two hours to watch Thor, or in your case, four hours to watch Thor. I know, that was really watch Thor. Gotta make time. Gotta make the two hours to watch Thor. Or in your case, four hours to watch Thor. I know, that was really too much. That was crazy. So, but does this movie get you to get excited for the Thor character? No.

Not so much. No. I'm excited to see more Idris Elba. Yeah. I mean, I would be okay if I never saw Thor again. But I guess the next one that we're going to watch it's much more interesting. Yeah, Ragnarok is great. And then him within the crew

is fun. I think I want that. I think it's like I need him to be like a little button in a moment, not necessarily the whole story is on his shoulders. But I'm curious if Ragnarok is something that we're actually going to like or if, you know, we still will be like, what?

There's a lot of Idris in Ragnarok is something that we're actually going to like or if, you know, we still will be like, what? There's a lot of Idris in Ragnarok. Okay. Good. I'm, I mean, I'm in because I have to be. Right. But now I'm in, in my mind. Yeah, that's good. This would, yeah, Trisha would have never, my wife

does not watch any of these movies. As soon as it's mostly CGI and no people, she's like, I'm asleep. Yeah. I mean, I have to say with Iron Man 1, it was like mostly practical feeling, but then Iron Man 2, I sort of liked more because it was easier on the superhero movie yeah oh wait you liked iron man 2 more i don't know i don't know anymore i don't

know either i can't remember what my thoughts were they change yeah i agree and when we talk about it with the guest i feel like our whole view changes too and it's just i don't know what i think now i'm excited to see more thor and before i was really upset about it yeah well you're you have every right to be upset about this one yeah but the introduction of everybody you don't like because loki becomes great i mean is a great character and even in this it like seems so dramatic and like watch re-watching this because i think i saw it when it came out and then i watched it again uh and watching it again and seeing them have the moment

where they're fighting between the brothers and how intense they took it was a lot you know but i was also i gave them props because i'm like oh they really they went for it you know like there were tears in their eyes and everything i'm like oh they're going yeah that's a lot too because it's probably all green screen yeah and you're like that that takes i mean i have to say that that the people in this are good actors there's a great act like everyone's completely committed like you're saying they're crying it's like that's hard to do when you're like in a green screen room with like someone just kind of pretending and wearing a cape like you're imagining everything yeah you have to really commit and you have to be like i'm not silly i'm not like i'm mad at this guy who has a cape and a hammer and i've and i've got horns and I'm wearing a horn helmet I would start laughing

okay so we have our section called five stark industries where we get we read listener reviews you guys the daily bugle the five stark industry so this is a five star review

from bazooka Sharks for Life. I fell is the subject. Love, love this podcast. Nicole and Lauren make me laugh so much and I love their takes on these franchises. Was trying to do pull-ups at the gym while listening and accidentally let go to the laughter.

Fell right on the ground. Oh, no. Still a five-star podcast. Oh, no. Oh, thanks for pulling. Fell right to the ground. Wow. Oh, wow.

Well, this season, in addition to Apple Reviews, we're going to be reading reviews from Letterboxd, and then we'll be giving each film a one-sentence review ourselves with a star rating. If you don't know what Letterboxd is, it's a social platform where people can write reviews of films, and you can follow the show on Letterboxd at Newcomers. So this is from Alicia.

Whoever thought it was a good idea to bleach chris m chris hemsworth's eyebrows like this let's talk i agree yeah yeah weird choice uh this is a three and a half star from taylor must a movie be good is a himbo god not enough okay so basically taylor's like we got the eye candy and we should just be happy i've never heard himbo that's the male version of a bimbo but bimbo bim bi like that's not a woman right that doesn't mean woman totally oh it's not i've been calling women bims for ages that gotta be good so that bim over there she's a bim uh what is our one sentence review for the film and what's our star rating like uh i mean i think because i'm kind of having to go off of my previous ratings of the other films and now this one I put lower than those I'm gonna give this 1.5 I really don't like out of five yeah I'm leaving room to love something you know what I

mean like yeah I gave some higher scores out um I would say very dramatic for a superhero movie yeah and i would say a little too lord of the ringy um more kissing yeah change the whole movie yeah needs it actually needs a sex scene because i think it'd be really fascinating to see what happens if they had sex but i feel like comic books really just hinge on kisses. Like, it's like, a lot of... Well, I think it's because taking off all of the, like, costume

would be time-consuming and maybe knock someone out of the moment. Yeah, and maybe taking off the costume takes away some of the, like, power of the situation. Yeah, imagine taking your cape off

to have sex. I'd be like, I'm good. Like, if Spider-Man took off his whole costume to have sex, he'd be like, you're just a guy. But he't though because spider-man usually just pulls up part of his mask so i think it'd be the same situation reveal pull yeah maybe there's like snaps and stuff where you just like pull your dick out you can't go to pee and pull it down

every time like when a woman wears a jumpsuit to a bar and you're just like naked in the stall. Wait, how do superheroes pee? Yeah, we're going to need to get into this. Yeah. Also, I think that a scene between them having more than just a kiss, we'd want to wait until after he grabbed the hammer. Yeah, he needs to have the super strength. Because then he's just a humor. Yeah. What would he be like, Lauren? You heard me.

He'll be like, let me take this bim. I'm a him taking a bim. I'm a him taking a little bim. Oh my god. Okay, well, please go write a review on Apple Podcasts. Give us your Letterboxd review as well.

We will pick a five-star review on Apple Podcasts to read on the next episode. And you can also rate us on Spotify. Eugene, do you have anything that you would like to plug? Nope. Just, I guess there is, I don't know. When does Loki come out? Loki's on Disney Plus now.? Loki's on Disney Plus now.

Season one is on Disney Plus now. And so you can watch all six of those episodes if you want to continue the lore. You guys aren't getting into any of the shows, right? You guys are just doing the movie. Who knows? Okay. We just said a little bit. A little bit, I guess.

Oh, okay. So, yeah, that and then a movie I'm in called Easter Sunday is coming out with Joe Coy. Oh, my God, yeah. Ooh, that's exciting. I'm excited about that. I love Joe Coy. I think he's so funny. Yeah.

So that'll be coming out. It's changed, so I don't know exactly when, but somewhat soon. So check that out, and that's it. Great. Honestly, my friend Eugene, stay working. Always. So, honestly, you just check that out. And that's it. Great. Honestly, my friend Eugene, stay working. So honestly, you just Google that name

and you watch some fun stuff. You're literally in everything. Yeah, truly in everything. It's so fun to watch. It's great. Okay, we'll be back next week with Captain America, the first Avenger.

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