Newcomers: Sports, with Nicole Byer and Lauren Lapkus - Why Did I Get Married (w/ Lauren Ashley Smith and Mariah Smith)

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

Nicole and Lauren are joined by comedians, writers, producers, and sisters Lauren Ashley Smith (A Black Lady Sketch Show) and Mariah Smith (Spectacle: An Unscripted History of Reality TV)&nbs...p;to discuss the Tyler Perry marriage dramedy, Why Did I Get Married (2007).  Follow Lauren on Twitter and Instagram, and check out the second season of A Black Lady Sketch Show, debuting April 23rd on HBO. Follow Mariah on Twitter and Instagram, and check out her podcast â€ŽSpectacle: An Unscripted History of Reality TV.Like the show? Rate Newcomers 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and let us know what Tyler Perry hit they should check out next.Advertise on Newcomers via Gumball.fmSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. Whose idea was it for us to come up to the snow? It's beautiful here, you have to admit this. It's beautiful, but Jamaica's beautiful. And warm. That makes perfect sense to me. When four married couples head to the mountains... Every single year, we take a seven-day vacation.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Who is this? I'm Trina. Where is Sheila? Oh, we take a seven-day vacation. Who is this? I'm Trina. Where is Sheila? Oh, I made her drive. We flew. You did what? Mike, are you hearing what you're saying right now? Secrets will be revealed. Oh, whoa, whoa. How are you going to admire him when you got your situation?
Starting point is 00:00:39 Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Situation? Trust will be tested. I'm not the only married person with a secret at this table. Checkmate. And hearts will be broken. Diane, when you get married, you give up the eyes for us, okay? And before all is said and done... You belong in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:00:54 And you belong on a corner. Need a pimp? Why is your wife so eatable? The secret to a good marriage just might be discovered. I need you and I love you. Just come home. Lionsgate and Tyler Perry invite you to the movie event of the year. I don't know what this is all about, but I am going up this mountain to save my marriage. Learn to love.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'll be there for you. Laugh. I like that argument because making up is insane. I'll drink to that. And cherish all over again. Love. Love. Love.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Love. Denise Boutte, Richard T. Jones, Sharon Leal, Lamon Rucker, Jill Scott, Tasha Smith, Michael Jai White, Malik Yoba, Janet Jackson, and Tyler Perry. I think we did all right. In Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married? Because at some point, everyone asks, Why did I get married? Written and directed by Tyler Perry. Baby, it's going to be okay. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Oops. Hello. You know, I do a lot of podcasting and a lot of times I forget how to start them. I just was talking over you and I loved it. Wow. We're really, we've nailed this. We're so many episodes in. We have a rhythm.
Starting point is 00:02:48 We figured out Zoom. Well, you guys, this is Newcomers. This is our fourth episode of our third season. We're working our way through Tyler Perry's body of work for the first time with the help of Perry's scholars, super fans, and sometimes
Starting point is 00:03:04 people who've contributed. This season is only going to be 10 episodes because 20 was trying to kill us. But you know, people want more of this already. Maybe we will do more. That clip I sent you yesterday from, I think it's the Oval Office. You sent me this clip. Yeah, I don't know what show it was. office you sent me the this clip yeah i don't know what show it was i i'm pretty sure it's oval office which is tyler perry's uh white house drama i didn't even realize this was happening
Starting point is 00:03:31 this clip is the sickest thing i've ever seen in my life i hesitate to even retweet it because it's vile it's literally a young man masturbating in front of a woman and then he's like she acts like it's fine even though she's like a business woman and he's like some disturbed teen or something yeah he's like I need you here and then he she's like I have to leave if you're gonna do that and then he ejaculates
Starting point is 00:03:57 and then he throws it at her and then wipes it in his notebook with his palm like it was the sickest thing I've ever seen nuts and out of like even in context I'm like what could this possibly be
Starting point is 00:04:14 about and why did why was it happening and why was she like I'll sit here that doesn't bother me I was like it should like he's like he's like do you hate this and she's like I don't mind I wish you wouldn't do it. And I'm like, yeah. She was very calm the whole time.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And I would have been screaming, you can't throw cum at me. That's the rudest thing. He had a pillow on his lap, and I knew it was going sideways. I mean, it's just, it's not good. It was really sick. But all that being said, everything Tyler Perry does goes away you don't expect. I mean, I think constantly, I never would have even thought he would go into that territory me either you know because you can't limit him but then i'm like is he gonna go to church later
Starting point is 00:04:54 and then the pastor's like you can't throw calm at the people like yeah i do think that's like oh you mean the character because i was gonna say tyler perry going to church because i think somebody was like tyler perry's going to hell with this clip. Yes, that's what the clip was titled. Like, reason 5,000 as to why Tyler Perry's not going to see heaven, which is just so funny. I just love it. But he also is like, yeah, his stuff is so moral at the end. I think ultimately he'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Today, we're discussing the Tyler Perry marriage dramedy. Why did I get married? Which came out in 2007. And we're going to be revisiting more movies and TV shows in the weeks to come. Maybe we'll get to some oval office stuff. I don't know. If you want to watch this movie, you can get it on DVD or a small fee on Amazon, Apple TV, and Vudu. So obviously we're going to spoil the film. So if you want to watch it, watch it. But I'm so excited because we have two of my favorite people on today, Lauren Ashley Smith and Mariah Smith. Now, Lauren is a comedian, producer, and the head writer of HBO's A Black Lady Sketch Show,
Starting point is 00:06:01 which returns for a second season later this month. I'm so excited. Me too. And Mariah is a comedian, writer, producer, and host of the podcast Spectacle, an unscripted history of reality TV, which I highly recommend. And I think I was on an episode with Marcy.
Starting point is 00:06:14 You were, and it was so great. I think I definitely was. I think I was. She's crushing it today. You have a lot going on, Nicole. Okay, and together with their sister, Rachel, Lauren and Mariah also host the popular show Smith Sisters Live on Sirius XM's Radio Andy, which is so good. They cover everything pop culture that you need to know. It really will keep you in the know. Welcome Lauren and Mariah.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Hi. Oh my God. I'm so excited you're here. I have to say again, where I've told you like a hundred times, but I love Spectacle so much. It's so good. Thank you so much. It's a journey and it's so fun. It's so good. What do you mean by journey? It's a journey and it's so fun. That made it sound like I absolutely hated it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Yes. I love it. It's a journey through reality TV. Yeah. It's a journey through reality TV. That's the journey.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Each episode kind of breaks down a show that was pivotal for reality TV and explains, like, how we got to where we are now. And it's very informative
Starting point is 00:07:21 and fun. And I just really enjoyed it. The season's done now. Oh, no, you have one more episode, I think, coming out, right? Yes, one more. What's your favorite reality show? Vanderpump Rules. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I don't watch that. Yes. I don't watch that either. It's so good. It has such rich personal histories between the cast members that it makes it, no matter where they they whatever wealth or status they reach they'll always be 20 somethings at heart who hate one another it's great yeah and it's like a turning point in reality tv the early episodes their early seasons because they're hot like reality stars are now but they don't understand the implication of doing all this on television. So it's like a beautiful time capsule.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It's a great show. Oh, that's interesting. Is everyone caught up on Housewives? Jen Shaw, she's probably going to jail. Going to jail in her box braids. At least she has a protective style. Wait, she has box braids right now? Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Her Instagram story, the last Instagram story she posted before the news broke was her modeling her new box braids. I personally want to find out where she is being held and put a scarf on her books so that her braids do not get fuzzy while she is in captivity. And so if someone can let me know where she is, I would be happy to contribute. Oh, my God. Well, I just saw that her chalet is also part of the scam. What? How? I just saw a headline. Well, I just saw that her chalet is also part of the scam. What? How? I just saw a headline.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I just saw a headline. I didn't get to read it, but I just saw it right before we started. I mean. I mean, it's all gotta be fake. So just to catch people up, this is from Salt Lake City Real Housewives and Jen Shah is like this extremely wealthy.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Who can't explain her companies at all. You never understand how she's so rich. And I mean, it's very confusing. Turns out she's been running like a full on telemarketing scam where like they call people and say like you owe us money. Like call us back. I heard a voicemail. I think Casey Wilson reposted it. An alleged voicemail of Jen calling someone saying you owe us.
Starting point is 00:09:23 It sounds like a telemarketer. And she's like, your ID number, 27770, owes us. Da-da-da-da-da. It's wild. Wild. And she had, like, they've been doing it for nine years. Yes. Like, it's a full-on scam for very involved.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Wow. And all her money is fake. So it's like, I mean, or, you know, gotten through this. The crazy part is that for a housewife, Jen is one of the ones that is the most like, I'm this rich.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Like she, all of her scenes revolve around spending money and how rich she is. And she's got like five assistants. Yes, exactly. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:09:59 one of her assistants also was arrested. And it's like, if you're, if you know you're making this money through a scam, maybe don't go on a shopping spree every episode with your scam. I agree. Or don't be on a show like under the radar. That's the craziest part. Like when people do bad things and then go on a
Starting point is 00:10:17 reality show thinking that like people aren't going to dig up this shit. No, it's so insane. It's so insane. Okay. Well, we got to talk about Tyler Perry. This is why we're here. I mean, we can talk about Jen Shaw all day long and I'd really be happy to, but, um, okay. So I know Lauren is more familiar with Tyler Perry than Mariah. Is that true? Yeah. I have the honor of having, um, sat in the audience of at least two Tyler Perry stage plays and they're not called plays or musicals. They're called a stage play. My aunt took me when we were children. So I saw live Tyler Perry plays.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And was Medea in them? Medea was not in those, I don't think. Really? They were side adjacent, Medea adjacent. But yeah, and Why Did I Get Married? I think was the first Tyler Perry movie I actually went to see in theaters. And that was like my entry point.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Wow. What was it like to watch this in the theater? Because we'll get to this dinner scene. Oh my God. During watching in the theater, what were people's reactions to that scene? People were screaming. Like it was a Marvel movie. When when tasha smith goes boom people went that boom gets you where it hurts i love it yeah boy
Starting point is 00:11:36 i think i have the next one that comes out i have to go no i have to be there. I can't keep doing this by myself. I'm screaming on my couch. Lauren, so was I. I was going, what? No. Oh. Ah. And then when she smashed it with the bottle.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Again, we'll get more into it. Oh, my God. She smashed it with the bottle. I went, no one's going to get up? Not one person gets up. No one reacted at all. And then someone said, I hope he's dead. Yes. And then he laid there. And they all just were like, anyway.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I'm like, this is insane. This is the best movie I've ever seen. My God, it's so funny. And so, Mariah, what's your level of knowledge with Tyler Perry? See, here's the thing. Growing up, as we did with family members who went to see Tyler Perry's stage plays, he was always in the realm of my being. But what Lauren failed to mention is I was so mad that I couldn't go to a Tyler Perry stage play.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I was like nine years old. I put juice in a wine glass. And to spite my family, I bit the wine glass and swallowed the glass and had to go to the hospital. What is wrong with you? I was so traumatized that I couldn't go see the stage play. I made my own drama. Wait, you have to
Starting point is 00:12:54 walk us? I love that Lauren's just nodding her head at that wild story. We, in fact, left at intermission to go to the ER because we got a page or a text. You are so annoying, Mariah. You had to take,
Starting point is 00:13:07 you had to take away Lauren's good time. Yeah. So please walk me through the logic of, I put, cause I don't know where we, how we got to you biting the glass. Yeah. You put juice in it.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And I was so furious that they left me at home. I said, I'm going to show them. And I bit the glass. And I didn't realize I would swallow the glass. I thought I was just damaging something in the home. You're like a dog eating an ornament. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Exactly. The child was acting out. And I ended up in the hospital. Were you okay? I ended up being okay, yes. Did you have like internal cuts yeah they retrieved the glass um and i how they took it was like endoscopic endoscopic can't like had to take a camera and like take it out of me oh no ouch oh my god when i left intermission and i came to
Starting point is 00:14:03 the hospital and that little child was sitting there in a hospital gown, sitting in that little pediatric size hospital bed. I said, I know this bitch did not. So that's my relationship to Tyler. Okay. So wait, Lauren, how old were you? So you were nine, Lauren. You were 11. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Oh, no, no, no. You were not nine. Lauren, you were... Eleven? Maybe... Come on now, Lauren. That ruins Mariah's timeline. You were not nine. I was younger. I was like 11 and you were like four. Six. Yeah, something around there. Because I wasn't older than 12.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah, I just had to get that straight because Mariah likes to say that she's 21. Correct. Okay, calm down now. Calm down. Let's not get on the age unless you want me to start shooting shots, okay? I love that you like to say that you're 21.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I like to say that I'm 47 because then people are like, oh my God, you look so good. And I'm like, I know. That's a good one. I gotta change that. Yeah, then you switched and go that way and everyone thinks you look amazing. Yeah, that's a good one i gotta i gotta change that yeah then you switched and go that way everyone thinks you look amazing yeah that's good uh should we jump into our news media yeah news media and we
Starting point is 00:15:13 have to explain it every time tyler perry sets a jazz man jazz man jazz man blues what does that mean a jazz man's blues oh that's the name of the movie. Oh, no. So Tyler Perry sets A Jazzman's Blues as next film at Netflix. Perry originally penned the film 26 years ago. 26 years ago? That's a long ass time. He's been
Starting point is 00:15:38 working for so long. It's the first screenplay he ever wrote. I wonder if there's been edits. And he's been trying to make it for over two decades why is he trying can't he do anything he wants maybe maybe this is like a big budget maybe this is like a grand to do oh it is look it takes place over 50 years yes from 1937 to 1987 the story follows an investigation into an unsolved murder unveiling a story full of forbidden
Starting point is 00:16:08 love, deceit, and a secret that's been held for 40 years. The film will shoot primarily at Tyler Perry Studios. It'll be released on Netflix later this year. Wow. Okay. I mean. That's amazing. I do feel like it is interesting that he had to sit on this for this long, considering
Starting point is 00:16:24 he has a show where a child masturbates in front of some lady in the local office. Oh, my God. It's like, I don't know. Let's make it all. I mean, it's all happening. But he is prolific. I mean, this makes you wonder, like, he must have a room or, you know, a floppy disk full of five billion scripts that are just waiting. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I don't think he does because I remember he was on a late night show and he said that it takes him like two or three days to write a script. And I'm like, that's problematic to me. It goes to show what you're putting in. So I think that he just, when the idea comes, it pops in his head. He puts it on paper and he'll make the movie within like a couple of months. Like, what's this movie set over a span of 50 years? We'll be out later this year.
Starting point is 00:17:16 It doesn't make no sense. I mean, yeah, that's wild. I wonder when they're going to start shooting. Well, that's the thing, because now we did cover that he has a whole quarantine like setup where he's like a calm cranking out yes he's cranking out content and so i mean i can imagine that he just is like you know using one of his army bases because somebody tweeted us that that is an army base like the the place that he bought yes it's an old army base oh Like the, the place that he bought. Yes. It's an old army base. Oh, I didn't realize that. Cause we were like wondering,
Starting point is 00:17:47 cause it looked like all those army barracks. Yeah. Um, we didn't understand why he built it like that, but he didn't. I wonder if eventually Tyler Perry will like incorporate his studio into becoming a town and then he'll be like mayor of Perryville. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Don't give him any ideas. And then take that back. I think that it seems so close to how he could do a sitcom called The Mayor and it'll be just like the woman to dance and accept Tyler Perry. And it's real. I have to say, and I texted you this, Nicole, but I was, when I was watching this yesterday, this movie, I started like, I felt like a burst of joy and like laughter when he came on screen. Like there was something about like,
Starting point is 00:18:32 yeah, now that we're watching all these movies and seeing how he casts himself and there's a range, but like a lot of times he's just playing like a handsome husband. Yes. And there's something about it that like makes me like giggle. Like, I don't know what it is. Like, I don't know. He's like a pediatrician in this one. And there's something about it that like makes me like giggle. Like, I don't know what it is. Like,
Starting point is 00:18:46 I don't know. He's like a pediatrician in this one. And then he also, I also was like cackling after, um, I guess it was when he got hit with the, look, I got hit with the wine glass or bottle.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And then Tyler's like, I'll get my doctor bag. And I was like, why did you bring your pediatrician doctor bag with you to this? He also said something that killed me. Why did you bring your pediatrician doctor bag with you to this all adult trip? He also said something that killed me. So there was a cop at dinner because Sheila brings the cop with her and they start fighting and he's like, maybe I should go. And Tyler Perry goes, no, we gonna need some law enforcement. And I was like like way to like foreshadow what's gonna happen
Starting point is 00:19:26 but then nothing in my wildest dreams could prepare me no what was gonna happen oh my god that line is iconic we're gonna need law enforcement every single person having an insane secret was my favorite thing i was like my, this is what everything should be like. I want to be this fun. I feel like there's an iconic dinner scene in the most recent season of succession that now watching, why did I get married back? I was like that, that scene.
Starting point is 00:19:56 And why did I get married? Walked. So succession could run. And that is beautiful. It's true. Not enough things get like wild like that, where it's like, oh,
Starting point is 00:20:07 you think it's weird that I'm cheating on my wife? Well, how about the fact that you, and then she's like, like, then he goes, you have VD. And then he's like,
Starting point is 00:20:14 the woman's like, you have VD? Who'd you get it from? Whatever. And then he's like, yeah. And she's like, no,
Starting point is 00:20:18 you got it from Walter or whatever. And he's like, I'm not gay. I slept with Walter. And I was like, wait, what? And then he leaps to choke her and is's like you're evil when he chokes her when he
Starting point is 00:20:30 chokes her out well we've been talking about this because he has this way tyler perry has this way of like making characters so mean that you're like i don't care what happens to them like especially in like uh dire of a mad black woman when like the guy is like so evil that you're like, I don't care what happens to them. Especially in Diary of a Mad Black Woman when the guy is so evil that you're like, you know, whatever. He's just a horrible person. He might as well rot. In this movie, there's a couple characters
Starting point is 00:20:56 who are just so harsh. But you still, he doesn't go as far in this one. You still are supposed to like them. Are you serious? Well, except for Mike. Mike goes pretty far. But Mike is horrible. He's horrible,
Starting point is 00:21:10 but he's still in the group. Like at the end of the movie, he's like, he's like talking to her and she's still kind of like, I don't care about you and you're a bad person. But like he like,
Starting point is 00:21:17 even touched her arm at the end. I don't know if you saw it. I think it was kind of like not supposed to happen. But they're like milling about and to like start dancing. And then he like touches her arm. Like the woman that he was married to,
Starting point is 00:21:27 he was so mean to, which was, if you go back to that first scene, I didn't even understand that they were married because I was like, why is he saying this? He's on the plane with another woman sitting behind his wife. His wife gets kicked off the plane for being overweight. And he is like just go just
Starting point is 00:21:46 drive i'm like why do you hate her and then and then he called her a fat ass and she could definitely hear it yeah 100 yeah and then the other woman was like stop or whatever and i'm like who is this what's happening the other woman's like i'll get off the plane he's like no and then i'm uncomfortable and this white lady I was like oh no and I was like more about this white lady than your wife how could the wife not know he's cheating with that other woman he's sitting with at that point I'm like I know they're acting like a couple and they hate you right like it's not going well yeah I like had I took issue with that because like that was crazy as a fat lady I was, we're not all that sad and fat.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Some are happy fats. It was really over the top. It was cartoonish. And the fact that they had to have, I was looking it up, Jill Scott was in a fat suit. She said she gained 30 pounds for the role additionally because she said if her head didn't match the fat suit it wouldn't make sense. Mm-hmm. Which I was just like That's what would make it
Starting point is 00:22:47 not make sense. That's where the wheels would fall off. Like, got it. And so I'm just like this is such a horrible portrayal and then the scene when she comes in
Starting point is 00:22:57 in the lingerie and he is as the scene fades and he's still laughing at her. And he's still laughing. It's heartbreaking. Oh my God. But that was one of those
Starting point is 00:23:06 things where I was like, are we gonna get a point where he gets like, you know, thrown over a cliff or something? Because I feel like in the other movies, when someone's being that evil, they have some sort of moment where it's like they're being punished for it. But if only he got to still have that lady. The only way he was punished
Starting point is 00:23:22 was he married Trina. She doesn't cook. She doesn't clean she doesn't do his laundry and he's like what do i do yeah like that's the only way i really fucked up that's so stupid also tasha smith i have not seen her in anything she's a national treasure she's really good beautiful and she has such they are she's an identical twin yeah oh she does yeah is her twin also an actor her sister is named sidra smith she's a model she has uh i think the last i saw her she has a shaved head and it's stunning like they're so and tasha smith also runs an acting program like she is just truly iconic incredible she's so's so funny. She has the range.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yes, she did. I want to see her do something more nuanced where she gets to like really play with levels as opposed to extremes because she is so funny and then so like vicious. And then I just really, I've, and then she's in a ton of Tyler Perry stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I've really enjoyed her. Speaking of Tasha, because there was one thing that struck me when I first saw the movie and then when I rewatched it again, is that Tasha Smith is supposed to be she's like a hair guru, basically. And in the scene where her husband doesn't want to have sex with her because he has BD, as they say later, and she just lays her head on the cotton pillow without a scarf as do all the other women in the movie that i wanted to put my foot through the television because i was like this is completely unrealistic there is no way that this woman who has a hair empire is laying that her beautiful blowout and or expensive extensions on a cotton quilt so how do you think they get away with that i mean because don't you think someone would say like, well, why would I lay down like this?
Starting point is 00:25:07 Honestly, I think they are making these movies so quickly that it's like if you ask a question, you lose half a day and they're like, we don't know. We got to keep going. I like that theory. I thought she was so hilarious though. I wondered if she was improvising sometimes
Starting point is 00:25:24 because she had some lines that were so great. And like, even though there was that point where like, I wondered if she was improvising sometimes because she had some lines that were so great. And like, even though there was that point where like, I can't remember what they were talking about, but they were like, we should be nice and not be judgmental. And she was like,
Starting point is 00:25:32 no, she said something that I was like, this was improvised. She was like, suck my butt or something. I don't remember. Yeah. She had some lines that were like,
Starting point is 00:25:43 that wasn't, that couldn't be scripted. In one scene remember. Yeah, she had some lines that were so... And I was like, that wasn't that couldn't have been scripted. Yeah. In one scene she says, okay, America's top next something to the woman in her chair and she flipped next top and I was like, that was an improvised line. That's exactly the same thing. I was like, if we could have gone back and done it again, but there's no time.
Starting point is 00:25:58 But no, you can't. No time. One take. Alright, well I think we should take a break and come back and get really deep into the plot of this movie and we're back oh we did it at the same time how cute cute. Okay, let's read this plot a bit and we will just walk through this movie because there is so much that happens.
Starting point is 00:26:29 So much. Even just the beginning. I don't even know if it's covered right here, but so, okay, eight married college friends travel to Colorado for their annual week-long reunion. So we need to set up how that happens because Janet Jackson- Janet Jackson is a narrator who's not narrating she
Starting point is 00:26:45 is some sort of professor of love and has written a book about her friends her students are asking her intimate questions about her friends but then she's like I don't talk about those things and it's like you wrote a whole book about it man with their names yes their actual names and intimate problems and we get uh we get a a bit of a glimpse that she has some sort of um tragic thing that's happened in her marriage that is not to be talked about and sorry for your loss we hear but how is your marriage and then her husband shows up and he's like time to go and then she's like that's how my marriage is and it's like yeah that was so wild how was your marriage well he's right there you can ask him and then he's like we have to go and then she's like see i was like that wasn't a good example
Starting point is 00:27:31 ma'am um okay so they're joined by trina a single woman who's friends with sheila one of the married women now that that that's the woman who is having we out later, is having an affair with Mike. Mike. Yes, Mike. And it's so obvious. It's very, very obvious. So Diane and Terry drive and argue most of the way because Diane refuses to stop working. This fight is nuts.
Starting point is 00:27:59 That's Tyler Perry. He named himself Terry just because he wanted to mush it together. Yeah, Tyler Perry, Terry. Yeah. Terry. He was like, I can't remember another name. He named himself Terry just because he wanted to mush it together. Yeah, Tyler Perry, Terry. Yeah. He was like, I can't remember another name. Just call me Terry. But he was just like fighting with her in a way that like was so vicious. And he's like, did he talk about sex then?
Starting point is 00:28:18 Or is that later when he's like, we don't have sex. I want children. Oh, okay. It was later. So Angela andcus argue throughout their train ride and this is funny oh that's oh man tasha smith she is just oh wait what is she i can't remember what the two gay men behind her say that made me laugh so hard it's about their dog oh they're trying to take a nap yes and then uh her husband's like oh don't mind her she's drunk and then they're like probably
Starting point is 00:28:46 a 40 they're like i'm just saying white people cartoonishly racist yeah it sucked because i was like the only way i'll get in this one of these movies is if i'm like a fucking racist bitch in the movie who's like kick this person off the plane what are you drinking a 40 like it's like, kick this person off the plane. What are you drinking a 40? Like, it's like, you can't like, there's no role where I could really shine. And I don't know about this. Oh my God. So Sheila and Mike travel separately after Sheila de-planes because of a two seat requirement. Also, when she walks off the plane and her hips are hitting the seats, I was like, oh boy. She drives in the snow with no GPS.
Starting point is 00:29:24 While Mike continues on the flight and flirts with Trina. The fourth couple, Patricia and Gavin, arrive by limo after Gavin picks up Patricia at a lecture she is giving. Patricia is the author of a book called Why Did I Get Married? Also, I just want to say that anytime I see a scene on a plane, it's usually the plane looks like it has so much more space than any plane actually does. Like, you're like, how?
Starting point is 00:29:43 No one has as much room. They made that plane so tiny uh-huh to really make this point and it's so it is a truly vicious scene and it's totally insane the the man who's sitting next to her like is just like upset for one millisecond that i will tell you this though as a fat lady you do not wiggle around she like sat down and like was like, I'm making space for me. No, you pop down and you don't move. You get really tiny. So she also got into the middle seat without him getting up. And I'm like, no one in their right mind gets to the middle seat of a plane without the aisle member getting up.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah, and that probably would have helped that more, I think, if he aisle member getting up. Yeah. And that probably would have helped that more, I think, if he had to get up. But I mean, I don't know. It was a very mean scene and everyone was really ridiculous. And it was just like, this is absurd. So let's see. Diane falls asleep not long after arriving. Her secretary calls while she's asleep and Terry tells her not to call during their vacation. Which is wild.
Starting point is 00:30:42 You can't do that. She has such a boundary. And he was so rude on the phone to Monica. He said, uh-huh. I know, but this is me telling you click. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Yeah. No. Yes. The way men assert their authority in this movie, even in the small things, like when they get the keys to the house and the sheriff purposely hands the keys to Tyler Perry and not the wife. It's like always about what the man says
Starting point is 00:31:05 and what the man, even the women making their plates in the breakfast scene. It's just too much. I also felt like the sheriff made a big point about how it was going to storm and they were going to be like
Starting point is 00:31:15 trapped or something. And then that really wasn't a problem at all. It wasn't any part of the story. It was nothing. They went shopping. Even Sheila getting to, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Okay. Okay, so Patricia, Gab, and Angela and Marcus all arrived subsequently, still fighting with one another. And when Mike arrives without Sheila, Diane, Patricia, and Angela
Starting point is 00:31:34 berate him and Trina. They try to reach Sheila but get her voicemail. I gotta say, nobody makes a big enough a deal about this man showing up without his wife and with another woman.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I'd be like, you can't come in the house until you fully explain why your wife is traveling separately and who is she who is she and that you made her get off the plane and he's shocked when people ask about her yes he's shocked he's like oh that's trina there was a room so sheila runs into bad weather and is helped by troy the local sheriff who works alone she spends the night at his office with sheila absent mike sneaks into trina's room in the middle of the night like a cartoon the next day it's like do do yeah do do do do sheila arrives with troy everyone eats breakfast together and t stays. Later, the men gather to discuss the 80-20 rule,
Starting point is 00:32:27 which states that men get 80% of what they need from marriage, yet they tend to go after the 20% that someone outside can provide, although it's almost
Starting point is 00:32:34 never true. During a heated argument with Angela, Mike reveals several secrets the couples have been hiding. So this is the big scene. I mean, and we're talking
Starting point is 00:32:43 an hour 30 in at this point. So much has happened. Mike contracted an STD after he cheated on Angela. Diane had a hysterectomy after her daughter was born. No, they said it was had her tubes tied. I don't think it was. She was born and kept it a secret from Terry. And Gavin blamed Patricia for not protecting their young son in a car accident that killed him a year prior,
Starting point is 00:33:05 which is like devastating and so over the top. Yeah. And Mike cheated on Sheila with Trina, which obviously is the least of it at that point. Yes. But it sets off the craziest stuff.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I mean, that scene is truly iconic. I feel like it is. I loved it. It's so amazing. It starts, and I was thinking how fun it must have been to make, like to shoot that scene. Yes. There's so amazing. It starts, and I was thinking how fun it must've been to make, like to shoot that scene.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Because there's like these reveals happening and like people getting crazier and crazier. I know at some point I'm going to hit him with a wine bottle. That's exciting. It's just so, it's so, even the way that they sat Richard T. Jones and Tasha Smith at like diagonal corners of the table because they were the two kind of driving the conversation. And it really blows my mind that Mike thought that like, okay, well, I've been outed as a cheater on this trip at which I brought my mistress is a secret on the level of your husband thinks you it's your fault that you killed
Starting point is 00:34:05 your child like that's not an equivalent reveal he goes he goes so hard against everyone else when it because he's so mad that it got revealed that he's cheating when even though it's the most obvious thing ever and you're like you can't call out that they have problems because their son died like that's like yeah you are horrible that's's why I thought he was going to get, like, killed or something. I mean, truly. And then finding out about the accident, and then Janet Jackson's, like, having her whole, like, meltdown because she thinks she's a horrible person.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Wait, what did Janet say? She was like, Mike, you got to stop. It's getting too dangerous. I should. Everyone, everyone's like one-liners in this scene took me out. Like, I had to pause it after she said that, and I laughed for such a long time. It took me so long to get through this movie. I couldn't stop laughing.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Oh, my God. So, okay, after the revelations, Angela reveals that she's the one who gave marcus the std after she slept with somebody else and his reaction we said it earlier but we gotta repeat it his eyes get so big and he chokes her he stands up to choke her yes he gets up like putting his hands out like, here we go. Like, it's fully. It's so crazy. It's so crazy. It's pure comedy. It is. Also, before they get to the reveal,
Starting point is 00:35:32 they're playing this jaunty music that makes you think it's going to be a nice, fun scene. And what a misdirect. What a misdirect. It's like. It's like, it's truly so funny. Like, if you think about writing something like i'm just picturing tyler perry writing this and i'm like to let yourself just go and then this
Starting point is 00:35:50 happens and then this happens this happens right it's like it's so crazy it's so fun to write like and then and then she says this is that they choke each other and then they gotta pull each other off it's like this is good i honestly in my memory when i watched it in theaters i re-watched it the other day and i was like i remembered this as a straight-up comedy i had no recollection of it being that dramatic because in my memory it made me laugh so much and that is true true, but it is not a comedy. No, but it does make you laugh. It's not.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's so shocking. It's like, there's so many things that you're like, I cannot believe they're doing that. Even though it's like sad or like,
Starting point is 00:36:32 you know, mean or whatever, it makes you laugh. Oh my God. And I'm sure with like singing with an audience, it's like that also colors it because you're like,
Starting point is 00:36:39 oh, everyone was laughing. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's like, that's a comedy. So,
Starting point is 00:36:43 okay. After the revelations angela reveals she's gonna give him that cd okay yeah so mike tells sheila he wants a divorce and she smashes a wine bottle over his head the couples decide they can't stay in the house any longer sheila checks into a local hotel troy visits her and takes her up to a mountain where she cries and mourns the loss of her love and the only life she knew and troy comforts her when mike gets hit with the bottle he like he sets his body up to be hit but i had no idea it was coming he's like he stands up and then sits back down like not finishes dinner to like lean over to sheila and be like you can have our vacation home it's
Starting point is 00:37:18 in a bad neighborhood you're welcome and then i'll put bars on the windows it's a bad neighborhood but you could have it and you can have your car hello hello and then snaps at her hello i'm like you are evil and then he said he wants the did he say he wants the kids or something so rude i feel like that's what he said but maybe that i misunderstood something but i thought he was like i want the boys you can have that bad house but then instead of like getting up he just turns his body and waits to get hit with a wine bottle he's like ready also the precision with which jill scott uh sheila a lay person who is not a street fighter or any kind of martial arts in any way, picks up the bottle and from the side and in her blind spot, it hits them across the face. I also just really wonder if a wine bottle would shatter that way. That's what I think.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh my God. I think it would hurt a lot and not shatter. It wouldn't. I think so. I don't even think it would hurt that much. I think that it would be like, it would be like, that was uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And you don't think it would hurt like a thick wine bottle? I don't think it would hurt that much. No, it would hurt. I think if it shattered like that. Because the wine bottle also looked empty. Mariah. Yeah, if it was full, that's another story. I don't,
Starting point is 00:38:39 I am here to say on record, someone can hit me with a wine bottle on the back of my head and I will tell you if it hurts or not because I am convinced it say on record, someone can hit me with a wine bottle on the back of my head, and I will tell you if it hurts or not, because I am convinced it's not that painful, and it would not knock me out on the floor like it did that man. Well, that's the thing. He basically dies. He falls. He gets hit with a sugar glass or whatever, and then he falls to the ground, and he is gone. He's dead. He's not dead, but he passes out, and someone's is gone. Like he's dead.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I'm like, he's not dead, but he passes out. And someone's like, I hope he's dead. And they do not react at all. Everyone's sitting at the table, acts like that happens every day.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And like, nothing matters. I just love that. And that's such a theme with Tyler Perry movie to movies too, where it's like the craziest show would go down and everyone's just like, yeah, anyway, world.
Starting point is 00:39:32 But also I'm like, were there other retreats like this i wouldn't keep coming you have they don't do anything like a retreat they had been there for two days and they did nothing to strengthen anyone's marriage which is true because janet jackson sets up at the beginning of the movie that the reason they go on the trips is that they go as couples and they ask the question why did I get married and they try to make sure that they keep their relationship strong that does not come through at all at breakfast uh Janet Jackson does say don't press buttons don't make them mad and that seems to be her only thing it's like don't make men mad but isn't that funny she's like the expert and she's that's like her advice it's like don't make men mad but isn't that funny she's like the expert and she's that's like her advice it's like this doesn't seem healthy wait they skip over the scene where the men are together and that's when like the secrets are first revealed before they're revealed to the
Starting point is 00:40:16 women and right it was like such a like misogynist misogynist it was men themed bad it was bad men and the man is which one is accused of being gay because he doesn't cheat on his wife Janet Jackson's husband and I was like that's such elite
Starting point is 00:40:38 not to mention they lost a child the scene at the beginning when or when they first get to the cabin and Tyler Perry's talking to the man who lost a child. Yeah. Oh my God. The scene at the beginning when, or when they first get to the cabin and the, and Tyler Perry is talking to the man who lost a child. And he's like, like that guy says to Tyler Perry, like,
Starting point is 00:40:52 I thought you'd have a bunch of kids by now. And he's like, Hey, I don't know. I really want to, I'd love to have a couple of kids. And he's like, I thought you'd have four,
Starting point is 00:40:59 but oops. And I'm like, you're telling me that if that happened in real life, that wouldn't be the first thing on your mind about that person that they lost their child. Like, you're just going to make a comment like that. And then like mid sentence,
Starting point is 00:41:14 like, yeah, all of the men's interactions are so toxic. I can't handle it. Yeah. Absolutely. So, okay, where are we in this thing? This is, okay, so the couples head back home.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Patricia breaks down emotionally, and Gavin agrees to reconcile. This scene is intense. It's Janet Jackson, like, heaving and sobbing, and then she, like, palms his face and runs her hand down. And I was like, that's a choice. Marcus's ex-girlfriend and the father of his child,
Starting point is 00:41:51 uh, Keisha shows up at Angela's salon. This is funny. After they started fighting, Marcus finally stands up for both women. After he doesn't come home for days, Angela realizes she's wrecking her life with constant arguing. The scene with Janetet jackson and her
Starting point is 00:42:05 husband when this is them finally facing that they lost his child and he's like look at the picture look at the picture and she's like oh god no no uh do you want salmon or chicken or you know just she's totally i can't look at and then she breaks down and i was like i was impressed by her acting I thought it was good and I thought I was too but I will say the lady the thing is the Janet Jackson of it all jumped out in that scene because the lady had no idea how to cut the asparagus that's all I could focus on that's what I was watching I was going I couldn't handle it I honestly thought I was crazy I I was like, I eat it wrong? Exactly. Maybe you do cut the tip off little by little so you know where to stop.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I know. She never cut asparagus in her life. In her life. So she was taking the stalks of asparagus and going, with the part you're supposed to get rid of, and chopping into little bits. Wait, what part are you supposed to get rid of the bottom it's really hard so you're supposed to get rid of it i see but and i eat asparagus a lot so i was
Starting point is 00:43:13 also like i think i'm maybe oh what if she's gonna put it in something i don't know i was like am i crazy i was so like what focused on that i was like that is a jackson i was like that's someone who's been famous since they were seven. I've never cut vegetables before in her life. It was so odd. I was focused on him pushing that photo on her while she was holding that big old knife. Yes. And I was also like, oh, I thought I forgot a stabbing in the movie. I'm like, she's about to stab him.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But then when she was crying, I was like, what's she thinking about, you know, the actor? Like, I was like, she has a lot to pull from. That's what I was thinking. I was just thinking like,
Starting point is 00:43:50 she has so many big life experiences that we all know about that are horrible that you're like, okay, you got a lot of, you got a well
Starting point is 00:43:57 to pull from to add to this scene. This is good. I thought it was impressive, but you know, Nicole didn't. Okay, so it was, it was a choice. I thought it was impressive, but you know, Nicole didn't. Okay. So it was,
Starting point is 00:44:06 it was a choice. I just, the, the palming of his face and running her hand down really. No, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:44:12 no. That was weird. I mean, and I think, I think it was a very intense for the man to be pushing that photo in front of her. I'm like, yeah. And he was crying by the end of the,
Starting point is 00:44:21 he was crying. He was good too. And then she was saying like, she thought it was her fault. And I'm like, how have you not had this conversation yet? Like, this is weird. Yeah. Well, maybe it's like they never went to therapy.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It happened. She was too traumatized because she was, like, in the accident. So, like, he just was focused on getting her well. And then they just never talked about this dead baby. Oh, and then there was another thing that the, that was called out where like they said he had said to somebody else that it was her. He came to their house crying and saying it was she, it was her fault. I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:44:54 And they told Janet that I was like, that is so mean. Yeah. I don't know what to do with that. Okay. So Dan, oh, now here we have this one. Diana and Terry fight over a paternity test he had done on their daughter.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Oh, this is crazy too. Uh-huh. This is crazy. So, okay, after Diane forgets Terry's birthday,
Starting point is 00:45:13 he moves out. Patricia meets, that's the last straw. Patricia meets up with Diane and Angela and they make a list of the good and bad things their husbands have done
Starting point is 00:45:21 hoping to reconcile their marriages. But okay, we got to talk about the paternity test. It's nuts. So, they're in the good and bad things their husbands have done hoping to reconcile their marriages but okay we gotta talk about the paternity test it's nuts so they're in the car and like basically they're leaving after having the big fight this is when that happens i think where he's like he's like well i had a paternity test done because i just wasn't sure if our child was mine and she's like oh did you and what did you find out and he's like oh it's mine and she was
Starting point is 00:45:44 like really and then she gets on the phone or something yeah oh no she puts her headphones in He's like, oh, did you? And what did you find out? And he's like, oh, it's mine. And she was like, really? And then she gets on the phone or something. Yeah. Oh, no, she puts her headphones in. Yeah. And he's like, oh, I see how it is. You can't hear me anymore. I'm like, you just dropped the biggest bomb.
Starting point is 00:45:58 And it seemed like she's trying to imply it's not his kid. So it's just like make him angry. Which is so awful. They don't need to be together. They don't like each other. No. When they get, when he's like,
Starting point is 00:46:10 I'm moving out. I was like, good. You hate each other. There is nothing there. And when they were fighting. Where it goes. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:17 When they were fighting before he moved out, he was like, you need to be quiet and do not wake up my daughter. They go upstairs. He opens the door to make sure the kid is still sleeping, closes the door, and then continues to speak at the same volume. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And the baby, I'm sorry, looks like a corpse. The daughter is laying in bed, just face up, squarely center in the bed. It's wild. Yes. Oh, well, I love where their story goes. I don't know if we get to, we have to get into that once we get back down there, but
Starting point is 00:46:51 okay. So what's next? Sheila settles into a new life in the mountains. She gets a job at a general store. Troy's father. She's on the phone with all the women and they're like, where are you? And she's like, I got a job at a general store. And they're like, a general store.'s like i got a job at a general store and they're like a general store like because it's not even a thing like you
Starting point is 00:47:08 have to know she's in the mountains at that point yeah it also i was like so sheila's just starting a new life she don't call nobody yeah she's what she has no obligations back home didn't she it seemed like she didn't even get divorced like she she didn't deal with any of this stuff. Yeah, nothing. She just stayed there. She starts building a relationship with Troy. There's a scene where the camera focuses on the least sexiest parts of this man. Oh my God. Like his shirt line. I was wondering.
Starting point is 00:47:36 To like his chin. His neck? Yes. What? I was like, I am married to a woman. So maybe I've just been out of the game and I don't know what is sexy about a man. But they were going to like his elbow, his under, like little under his lip area where like a soul patch would be. His neck, like where his hair meets the neck or something.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I was like, this isn't like hot. Like, how about some muscles? Like, what are we doing? Yes, anything. Like this isn't like hot. Like how about some muscles? Like what are we doing? Anything. And then she even like after they zoom in on all this stuff, then they do kind of a comical thing on Jill Scott where she's like, she can't believe how hot it is. And then she's like, do you work out every day?
Starting point is 00:48:16 And I'm like, you could tell that from his neck. But then after she's like, you work out every day. He's like, yeah, you can go on a walk too. And she's like, me? Walk every day. He's like, yeah, you can go on a walk, too. And she's like, me? Walk somewhere? No, better eat cheesecakes. I know. What is happening, Jill?
Starting point is 00:48:31 I can't run from here to the door. What? And he's like, with some work, you could. And then later, when it's revealed that they're together or whatever, and Mike is like, did she get a gastric bypass? And he's like, that they're together or whatever. And her, Mike is like, did she get a gastric bypass? And he's like,
Starting point is 00:48:47 no, she worked out. And Mike is like, I know. It's so, it's so rude. Well, and so then we have to talk about how, when Tyler Perry and his wife get back together.
Starting point is 00:49:03 So he's like at, he's in his new house, which is like amazing. And he has this, he has the woman that the wife thought he was cheating with. His nurse. And she's in scrubs just in case it's not clear. And the wife comes in and she's like,
Starting point is 00:49:17 I want to fix everything. And he's like, you do? Well, she's pregnant with twins. And then she's like, okay, we'll work through it. Which I'm also like, it sounds like he's moving on. It she's like okay we'll work through it which i'm also like it sounds like he's moving on it doesn't sound like you're through it and then he goes just kidding i was like i couldn't believe that i was just like wait so this woman you keep bringing
Starting point is 00:49:37 over you are sleeping with her and she's got twins and then d Diane's just like, well, I'll deal with it. I'll deal with it. And I was like, oh, God. Just kidding. If I'm the nurse, if I'm the nurse, you're getting sued for sexual harassment. You're standing there talking about some. Yeah, I knocked her up with twins to your wife. I mean, I'm in your house. So we've got questions there.
Starting point is 00:50:02 But like, this is a lawsuit. It totally is. And she just goes along with it. Like, I think scream out like no i'm not like it's like you can't how does she know what he's doing and then he was like she's got a boyfriend scream out well because you'd be so shocked and then like she's the wife is like we'll work through that and i'm like it's too late and then he says they're kidding and i'm like do you know how long it would take me to calm down from realizing that was a joke? Like, I would be like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Like, I need to, like, process this. But she's just like, yay. And then they just hug and they're like, we're together. It's so funny. Okay, so later all the couples reunited in an award gala where Patricia is being honored. And Diane, Patricia, and Angela are shocked when Sheila arrives and introduces Troy as her husband. I mean, I'm shocked too.
Starting point is 00:50:52 The timeline doesn't make sense. Same. The timeline is so messed up. Because she didn't tell anybody. No, it's been like, because she's like, my Janet Jackson told us that she had this event coming up like shortly. Like it wasn't like a long time ago. I think she actually said, and it was very wedged in the conversation.
Starting point is 00:51:06 She was like, you guys have eight months to get your tickets or something like that. Oh my God. When she's sitting on the husband's lap. I was like, why did she name that specific amount of time? You're right. No, because that was when they first got to the cabin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And I was thinking, why eight months? Because I thought, okay, someone's gonna have a baby or like I thought something would happen. but no it just was like so that they could justify sheila getting married in that time i guess um mike gets jealous tries to reconcile once he sees sheila with troy but sheila tells him to enjoy his life with trina patricia accepts her award and confesses her love for gavin in her speech about love, respect, and trust. And that's it. And then they all dance. What a outstanding movie.
Starting point is 00:51:50 What a film. I loved it. It is twists and turns. And honestly, just that scene, that dinner scene should win some sort of award. I agree. They don't give awards for scenes, but it's perfect. I agree. It's honestly so good
Starting point is 00:52:06 and it it was like there's so many twists and turns i and just like with every movie we've watched i'm not bored at all during no movies i'm like i want to know what's gonna happen i'm very invested in all the characters there's something shocking coming out of someone's mouth every two minutes so if you look down or look away you will miss something good yep and it's just it's solid uh so this was written by tyler perry directed by tyler perry released october 12 2007 uh janet jackson won an outstanding supporting actress at the naacp image awards also the naacp image awards tyler perry was nominated for outstanding supporting actor jill scott was nominated for outstanding actress jill scott Perry was nominated for Outstanding Supporting Actor. Jill Scott was nominated for Outstanding Actress. Jill Scott was also nominated for
Starting point is 00:52:48 Best Actress at the BET Awards. Wow. Critically, and this is the theme here, the film was not well received. It currently has a 48% fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, but I would say it's decent. One critic from The Hollywood Reporter wrote, none of these flaws will
Starting point is 00:53:03 matter much to Perry's devoted audiences whose support has enabled him to virtually build a media empire sounds like this person is bitter virtually built enabled they were like you dumb ass has been down the road this far what's gonna change wow well of course and this is how it always goes audiences like the film for the most part giving it a a 78% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes. And the film's budget was 15 million and it grossed 55.2 million at the box office. I mean, I do feel like these reviews are so irrelevant to these movies.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yeah, they don't fucking matter. You cannot analyze these movies and compare them to anything. It's just people are having fun and they're liking it. And that's the answer. I think it's great. Okay, so we have a little trivia about this movie. This is an adaptation of Tyler Perry's
Starting point is 00:53:49 play of the same name which debuted in 2004. That must have been a fun one. Can you imagine? That would be a fun play. It would be so much fun to see live. Especially the... I'll keep talking about it until the day I die. The dinner scene. The characters Marcus, Angela, Patricia, and Gavin
Starting point is 00:54:06 weren't part of the stage play. So what, there's only two couples? That's a big chunk of the movie. Okay, that makes sense because at the end of the movie, Jill Scott has that big speech as if she's the main character of the movie. And now I understand that she must have been
Starting point is 00:54:22 the main character in the play and that was a hold over from it. Yeah, that makes sense. This is Tyler Perry's first self-directed dramatic role. And a sequel was released on April 2nd, 2010, which
Starting point is 00:54:37 I'm going to watch. Whether we have to or not, I'm going to watch it. Perry also created a comedy drama television series based upon the two films titled Tyler Perry's For Better or Worse. Truly, it is like the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Like, everything is intertwined. The series stars Michael Jai, I think I'm saying that right, White, and Tasha Smith, okay, as Marcus and Angela. Okay. And it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And it ran from 2011 to 2017 on TBS seasons one and two on own for seasons three through six. Wow. That's like a huge run. And Tasha Smith had a whole show. This is like, wow. She's getting paid.
Starting point is 00:55:20 She's so good. Like I, she's really like her. I'm a fan. i thought she was hilarious um that's amazing see this is crazy though like i there's truly he has a spinoff for everything there's a sequel there's like 10 other i mean he he is making 10 shows at once i think we found out last week that he like has made six tv series in quarantine. Like he has released programs like fully. I don't understand how.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Oh, wow. He's very, he's, he's a talented man. He moves very quickly. Also, I really,
Starting point is 00:55:58 I, I think I said this like in another episode, I really love he mixes like stars with people that you just haven't heard of who are just as capable. That's a great point. That's such a great point because in what world, like, well, what's interesting is like,
Starting point is 00:56:13 I can't imagine any other filmmaker giving Janet Jackson, who's a huge star, a starring role in a movie. But in a Tyler Perry movie, it works so well because you get Janet freaking Jackson and these other black actors that you kind of know their faces but you don't ever see them in like
Starting point is 00:56:31 big blockbuster movies and so it's really it's a really cool mix I wonder if Jill Scott because she starred in Ladies Detective Agency uh I wonder if that that was like an HBO series I wonder if that came after this that's number one ladies detective agency i want to know about the the conversation around her gaining 30 pounds to make her head look the same as the suit i just need to gain 30 pounds in my head it's mostly gonna be in my head i don't know how you control it's so wild that's so crazy it is crazy that's a lot of weight to gain
Starting point is 00:57:10 just for your head to match yeah I don't know about that I'm not here for it I wouldn't do it it's a lot to ask of anyone yeah would you do that would you no
Starting point is 00:57:24 me anyone yeah would you do that warren would you yeah would you no me no i don't think i would either i'd be like just tape some prosthetics to my chin but see the problem is like when and i mean i think like we there's like so many examples of people wearing fat suits or whatever where it's like this is so fucked up like it's just like it's it's like Gwyneth Paltrow in that movie like there's just so many examples of it just being weird and like I mean it doesn't seem good I gotta say my favorite example is Tyra Banks on her talk show puts on a suit gets on a stage and goes people were mean to me and I'm sorry that that whole look like she goes on the street and people are looking i'm like you look crazy you're clearly wearing prosthetics like
Starting point is 00:58:14 you don't look followed by camera yeah like exactly that's why they're looking people are gonna look at you like this is absurd i want to see a picture of her actually in that she was like people didn't realize people didn't treat me like the star tyra bing you have to hurt my feeling google this right now because it's so stupid oh my god oh my jesus oh my god like yeah tyra and then yeah it's really funny to come out like you learned something is like just like okay yeah oh god also it's showing me a real housewife melissa gorga why is she in this what is fun i guess For fun, I guess. Oh, boy. People are ridiculous. You're going to get looked at.
Starting point is 00:59:08 That looks like not a person. Dr. Oz? Oh, my God. There's a Dr. Oz one as well. This is nuts. Okay, yeah. Here's a Cosmopolitan article. Stop wearing fat suits to, quote, understand what it's like.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Wait. This is crazy. And there's like a woman. Because wasn't there a TV show that did this? Was there? Or something. It was something weird. Because I don't know what this is crazy. And there's like a woman. Because wasn't there a TV show that did this? Was there? Or something. It was something weird.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Because I don't know what this is from this image. But that's so crazy. This is so funny. Just the sheer amount of celebrities who've worn fat suits for no good reason. And it seems like it's always out of boredom. Oh, my God. Wait, do you remember this show? This just reminded me of the show Black White.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I just Googled this. Do you remember this? Yes. They would have two. Okay. So it's, I'm looking at the Wikipedia now to remember this. It was on FX and it was two families of three, one white family and one black family.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And they would use quote studio quality makeup and trade races and experience what life was like in the family issues. This is so insane. It's so wait a minute. It's wild. So it's, that's wait a moment. I want to find photos of this,
Starting point is 01:00:14 but of course I bet you they're like scrubbed from the internet. I want a season two so bad. Yeah. Well now, I mean, can you imagine like, this is so insane. So this,
Starting point is 01:00:27 wait, the show was produced and created by Ice Cube. I didn't realize that. And RJ Cutler. And it ran for five weeks. Okay, the makeup is actually kind of impressive. It's very good. It's unavailable on Amazon. How do I get to watch this? I need to watch it again now.
Starting point is 01:00:45 It's probably on YouTube, I bet. Oh, here we go. Oh, yes. Wow, the makeup is really good. Isn't it? I'm kind of shocked. I don't remember. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:55 This is nuts. That's so crazy. Yeah, I want to rewatch that now. So that was from what, like over 10 years ago? I can't believe it. Crazy. I love how we've just we've just started googling oh yeah the last time i should just go out googling and describe what we
Starting point is 01:01:11 see oh my god well i think we've come to the end since we're just googling uh lauren even though i'm having fun do you guys have anything you'd like to plug lauren um watch a black lady sketch show season two premiere on april 23rd on hbo and hbo max and listen to us on smith sisters live on friday mornings at 11 a.m eastern 8 a.m pacific on radio andy channel 102 on sirius xm and listen to my podcast spectacle and unscripted history of reality tv wherever you get your podcasts thank you both so much for being here. Thank you so much. Thank you for having us. We have our five hallelujahs segment where we read five star reviews.
Starting point is 01:01:54 It really makes me laugh. Hallelujahs. Okay. I know we're gonna cover Medea goes to jail, but did you watch any of it? Oh my God. I watched the whole thing because we were supposed to we were supposed to record the other day so on my lunch break i started
Starting point is 01:02:09 it and medea when she's at court and she's like sorry like she just puts a t after every like just normal oh i know it made me laugh so hard i find it hilarious and that movie also which we'll get into is so ridiculous because she doesn't go to jail to like the last 10 minutes i was like go to jail isn't that what this is called she eventually goes to jail should have been the title i thought all the comedy would be in jail but we had to just see how she got there which was like really great okay so this um review comes from Mickey Loco, my favorite new podcast. I'm a huge star Wars and Lord of the Rings fan.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And this is the funniest thing I've ever heard. I binged both seasons. I was crying almost every episode. I grew up with the show. So it's hilarious hearing perspectives from someone who has never seen it. Oh, I want to read this one too. This one's from X Topher.
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Starting point is 01:03:23 so yeah, write us more reviews because we'll pick one to read and we'll be back next week with another great episode of one of God's Angels, Tyler Perry's works. See you then. Bye-bye.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Bye. Thank you. That was a Hiddem Original.

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