No Agenda - 1576 - "Disease X"

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're boiling like frogs. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, July 27th, 2023. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination episode 1576. This is no agenda. Ice cream, good, lick, lick, and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
Starting point is 00:00:17 here in FEMA region number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where you get a plea deal and you get a plea deal. I'm John Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where you get a plea deal and you get a plea deal. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning. The distraction of the week.
Starting point is 00:00:35 I thought that flying saucer stuff was the distraction of the week. It's a double op. It's a double op. It's a double op week. It's a double duty op. Double duty op week. That's right, everybody. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:00:47 I didn't even know where to start with either one of these. Well, since I don't have any clips whatsoever, even though there's a ripe one or two. Yeah, I got some clips. About the flying saucers, and that's your beat. All right. All right. I can do it. Take it away, my stone.
Starting point is 00:01:02 All right. So I need to set this up for a moment. This is the same guy, Grush. Grush, I think, is his name, who is being billed in the media as a whistleblower, which he is not. He's not a whistleblower. We played... Do people know what a whistleblower really is? Why don't you give us a little explanation of what a whistleblower really is. Why don't you give us a little explanation of what a whistleblower is? A whistleblower is somebody within a company,
Starting point is 00:01:26 corporation, or government agency that sees wrongdoing, and then, despite the risks to his career, he blows the whistle on the corruption. Right. So it's not a guy who works for an intelligence agency and has been
Starting point is 00:01:41 given permission to speak about a whole bunch of things and continuously talks about going into the skiff. He does? I didn't, well, I was like, yeah, I only heard a few choice words. Oh, man. Goes into the skiff. So this, well, let me just, so this guy. Let me just ask, before you run any clips, do they discuss at all the Philip Corso book, which blew the lid off this thing 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago?
Starting point is 00:02:10 No, this is something entirely different. Oh. This is an op of a whole different sort. It's easy to understand, I think. It was for me. No, no, no. This is something. Let's get a little backgrounder from cbs
Starting point is 00:02:25 who's spooky music alien films are a hollywood staple so perhaps no surprise the american people deserve to know what is happening in our skies there was a line out the door with people anxious for the government to share more about ufos in the baptist church we'd say that the devil's in our way a former intelligence officer, David Grush, testified he suspects the Pentagon's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, or UAP, office is covering up a decades-long program to retrieve crashed objects. Do you believe that our government is in possession of UAPs? Absolutely, based on interviewing over 40 witnesses over four years. The Pentagon has denied Grush's claims.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Two former military pilots also recounted their close encounters. This object was estimated to be almost the size of a football field. Former military pilot David Fravor testified he was astonished by what he saw in the sky. No, I think it's far beyond actually our material science that we currently possess. Congress signaled it will ask federal agencies and the Pentagon to be more transparent. Many people believe that we're withholding information from them. On any unexplained aerial phenomena incidents, of which there have been at least 366 reported since early 2021.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Do you think anybody's mind was changed because of this? I think they will when they see this. They see those men. They're not just some random people off the street. Senators this week will consider legislation requiring the National Archives to release federal reports about UFOs, arguing those mysterious items in the sky, JB, are a danger to military aircraft and U.S. security on the ground. All the clues are in here. All the clues are in here.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Hold on a second. What? Did I hear right that the report was David Grush believes? He does believe. He believes based on interviews with 40 people? Yes. So he never saw a craft? No. But we knew this.
Starting point is 00:04:21 He never saw an alien thumb? No. but we never saw alien thumb no we knew all this because that was it we we played his entire pertinent bits from his news nation interview the only one he did it wasn't exclusive you know so that no one would watch it because this is uh this is clearly the military industrial complex who needs more money what well let's yeah did they also say he is a corporate intelligence officer no no did they say that they said that he was in corporate he was a corporate intelligence former intelligence officer oh was former okay cia and in the news nation interview he said you know uh my boss has said i could talk i mean my former former boss has said i could talk about
Starting point is 00:05:12 this stuff john whenever you get the democrats and republicans agreeing 100 in congress it's for military spending that is just the history that's just the track record ah i see and you heard it at the end of that uh cia broadcasting systems clip here listen to that archives to release federal reports about ufos arguing those mysterious items in the sky jb are a danger to military aircraft and u.s security on the ground Danger to military aircraft and U.S. security on the ground. Yes, and we heard it's a safety threat to nuclear national security. Can I ask another question? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:05:55 So these things have been spotted in the sky since the 40s, probably before that, too. before that too so how many total planes have been uh crashed or burned up or shot down or damaged by these these uh these dangerous things flying around how many total since let's say 1935 i would be happy to that and to answer that question for you uh congressman uh in the skiff that's basically how the whole hearing anything that was going to be good was in the skiff that's basically how the whole hearing anything that was going to be good was in the skiff yes in the skiff all right i just got a three clips and you'll you'll hear it this is clearly the next level of let's get some more money we're running out of of uh of money on this ukraine gambit let's get some money through this through this little rigmarole one point you said that there there might there there has been harmful activity or progressive activity
Starting point is 00:06:51 has any of the activity um been aggressive been hostile in your reports uh i know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured. And the activity... By UAPs or by people within the federal government? Okay. So there has been activity by alien or non-human technology and or beings that has caused harm to humans I can't get into the specifics in an open environment but at least the he's a whistleblower but I can't get into the specifics
Starting point is 00:07:34 because I have clearances I gotta be careful of my clearance humans I can't get into the specifics in an open environment but at least the activity that I personally witnessed, and I have to be very careful here because you don't – I tell you never to acknowledge tradecraft, right? I never acknowledge tradecraft, but you're a whistleblower. What's your point?
Starting point is 00:07:56 I personally witnessed, and I have to be very careful here because you don't – I tell you never to acknowledge tradecraft, right? So what I personally witnessed, myself and my wife was very disturbing oh oh oh i'm so sorry it was you're so disturbed this is uh it's nothing but there was one thing that just bugged me because this word this term came up this noun and uh from a i think it's a junior, she's a pretty junior person. What is her name? I can't remember. Young lady. So this is all scripted, by the way.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It's completely scripted, and he uses, or they use this term, which just comes out of nowhere, which was puzzling. If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?
Starting point is 00:08:48 As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. Biologics? Yeah. Now, if you look up biologics, which I know what biologics is, biologics is basically
Starting point is 00:09:02 the non-tested vaccine system in the United States. Those are biologics. It the non-tested vaccine system in the united states those are biologics it's a classification of medication but now they're using it in this in this context i thought that was really interesting and i'm not i'm not sure why and you can look up any dictionary when is biologics ever used with aliens never as i've stated publicly already in my news station interview uh biologics came with some of these recoveries yeah um or maybe just some vaccines i don't know i mean he said he's not answering that they were expired a batch of expired vaccines they're in their big box of them what the hey maybe we're reading way too much into it he's
Starting point is 00:09:46 just given a non-answer that sounds like he means aliens but it's really just expired vaccines as i've stated publicly already in my news station interview uh biologics came with some of these recoveries yeah um were they i guess human or non-human biologics? Wait, now I can be a biologic? No one ever taught me this? Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with rec knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program. Oh, so he didn't see anything. He doesn't know anything. It's people he talked to who are still on the program.
Starting point is 00:10:19 And was this documentary evidence, video, photos, eyewitness? Like, how would that be determined the specific documentation i would have to talk to you in a skiff about oh because i'm a whistleblower so let's get into the skiff about that this thing was bull crap and i'm telling you this is only about the so the next hearing which you'll have to now, we're going to bring in the military and relevant agencies so they can start asking for money. OK, so and you may or may not be able to answer my last question and maybe we get into a skiff at the next hearing that we have. But who in the government, either what agency, sub agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting? And you probably can't name names, but what agencies
Starting point is 00:11:11 or organizations, contractors, et cetera, do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there? I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those. And how soon can we get that list? I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing. Right away. Let's have lunch. I'm a whistleblower.
Starting point is 00:11:34 How do you have, before you even talk to someone, a hostile witness list? I'll give you a friendly and hostile witness list. You got a name of a guy who says, you put me on that list, man. I'm not saying nothing. I'm give you a friendly and hostile witness list. You've got a name and the guy says, you put me on that list, man. I'm not saying nothing. I'm not going to go. I don't get it. It's all bull. This thing is the next, and it will be a public
Starting point is 00:11:55 hearing, and it's going to be more of this. And it's going to be, you know, we need special stuff to protect ourselves in case there are hostile biologics. You know, we just need some bi protect ourselves in case there are hostile biologics. You know, we just need some biologics, anti-biologics. Come on. Stop.
Starting point is 00:12:11 This is insulting. Well, you wouldn't be so insulted if they let you in the skiff. Well, yeah. I mean, if you let me in the skiff, then I'm good to go. Okay, now I've got to... So, you know, I'm reminded with this skiff is the dome of silence from the old Get Smart show. Was the dome or cone?
Starting point is 00:12:31 I think it was a cone. I think it might have been cone. It might have been cone of silence. The cone of silence and it drops down. They couldn't hear each other when they were inside of it. Oh, goodness. All right, now we've got to get to the next nutty. I mean, this is this they're non-stop they're not gonna quit with the with this summer which is just the worst ever it's the
Starting point is 00:12:53 hottest ever we're all gonna die this is this is the climate change this is just it this is it. And no one better to embody the elite messaging through the old school elite messaging system, which would be ABC this week, as Governor Jay Inslee from Washington. Now, Mimi lives up there. Are they burning alive up there? Is there something going on that I should be aware of? Is it the worst? Is it something really horrible happening in Washington state? It rained like a son of a bitch yesterday.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Well, good, because that's not what's going on, according to Governor. And this is this. I mean, I really have two people to play clips from about this climate change. Hottest summer ever. Bull crap. But the messaging is on. I don't think anyone buys it anymore, but they're trying. We're joined now by Washington State Governor Jay Inslee, a leading advocate for climate action.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Governor, thanks for joining us. How much do you think? He's a leading governor for climate action? Were you aware of his credentials? All I know is he ran for president in 2016. credentials all i know is he ran for president in 2016 and he said when i'm his whole foundation his whole platform with his fantastic like 0.5 support was when i'm elected the first thing i'm going to do is declare a climate emergency wow okay so he's been nuts about this since day one. Yeah. Action. Governor, thanks for joining us. How much do you think climate change is to blame here?
Starting point is 00:14:32 For all the fires around the world, the heat domes. Well, look, the climate change problem, the fuse has been burning for decades and now the climate change bomb has gone off. Yeah. It worked so well with the population bomb. I'm just going to bring it back and call it the climate bomb. Oh, man. By the way, this is what everybody's doing now. They're trying to find the new cliche that will catch the scientists are telling us that this is a new age this is the age of consequences because whatever we thought of climate change last year we now understand that the beast is at the door we knew this beast of climate change was coming for us but now it's pounding on the door and i think it's interesting
Starting point is 00:15:21 the most sort of uh it It's the climate beast. Memory of this situation, what the scientific community is telling us now, is that the Earth is screaming at us. Which one of these do you think is going to catch? Would it be the climate beast pounding at the door, the Earth screaming at us? It's like the oceans are boiling. That didn't work.
Starting point is 00:15:47 These things are not catchy enough. Maybe if they hired the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, we could come up with one for you. Well, it would definitely be better than what he's spewing out. He's just trying one thing after another. He's like spitballing right here. It's an ideation session.
Starting point is 00:16:03 What's happening to us now is that the Earth is screaming at us. And that is the situation. I talked to a leading international scientist the other day who told me that we knew this was going to happen to us,
Starting point is 00:16:17 but it's happening to us maybe two decades earlier than we really thought could be in the realm of the possible so we have so their predictions are wrong and once again they they gave us more time they lied it could be in the realm of the possible you know on wall street you get punished if you predict um numbers and your numbers are too good that's actually seen a long term as a negative if you're a ceo or cfo oh no you have to nail it you have to nail it yeah you can be a little bit over where you start leaking out that
Starting point is 00:16:51 hey it's going to be better than expected but generally speaking the trick is to do a little bit under and then yeah and then nail it by a penny and then they go it goes up a penny your stock goes up a dollar yeah exactly so so it's not a great deal for it's not fantastic for any scientist leading climate scientists to say oh we screwed up it's 20 years earlier oh yeah talk about screwing up yeah that i mean thanks for the warning boys it could be in the realm of the possible so we have to uh dramatically increase our efforts. That is a necessary.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Now, the good news, there's good news here. We can do this. Look, we're electrifying our transportation fleet. We're electrifying our homes. This is a solvable problem. But we need to stop using fossil fuels. Oh, okay. That is the only solution to this massive assault on humanity.
Starting point is 00:17:43 A massive assault on humanity. Okay. Well, this is kind of the same message as always let's see uh let's uh see what uh what some of these uh what kind of goals do we need to have here what what at this point you know we heard ginger z talk about this what are meaningful climate goals in in one year in ten years. Is this Martha Radnich? Yes, it is. How does she still have work? What? What? What? Well, this is no longer a premiere. You know, being on television is not
Starting point is 00:18:14 that great anymore. It's kind of where people go to die. You know, look at Andrea Mitchell. Can be achieved. Well, we can take short-term action. Look, we've said we're not going to be selling internal combustion cars after 2035. We're electrifying our ferries here in Washington state. We have a law that demands 100% clean energy in a couple decades.
Starting point is 00:18:37 We're acting, and I do want to note that, that this is not just something for the federal government. States can act. Our state is acting. We have 23 states in the U.S. Climate Alliance, and this is necessary. We've had tremendous action under President Biden's leadership with the Inflation Reduction Act. Unfortunately, the Republicans are trying to repeal that now. But we need to go further and faster, and states can go further and faster, and we are doing that. And again, the good news is all around my state, I can't turn over a rock without seeing new jobs associated with clean aviation fuel. Clean aviation fuel?
Starting point is 00:19:14 You mean that $15 a gallon crap that no one's going to use? They have jobs for that? You can't turn over a rock without seeing benefits from that fuel? Is that what he said? Yeah. And this is a mixed metaphor of epic proportions. Turn over a rock. Well, he was using it under one.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Again, the good news is all around my state, I can't turn over a rock without seeing new jobs associated with clean aviation fuel, with new types of batteries oh the new battery oh yeah new batteries new washington state batteries from the great washington state battery foundry what's he talking about there's no batteries in washington state you clearly haven't looked under a rock john look under the rock to see that types of batteries it's very exciting what's going on right now. In inventing a new economy.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And we're doing that right in Washington State. And people are getting great jobs because of this. So there's two parts to this story. This thing is now the age of consequences. The bomb has gone off. But we do have the ability to restrain fossil fuels if we make the commitments we need to. And I'm glad to find a state that's doing that. So what I think he's saying is,
Starting point is 00:20:29 give me some more of that Inflation Reduction Act money. You know, because if we turn over rocks, we've got to get more jobs for that expensive fuel that no one's going to use. But how do you bring them all together? Governor, on that point, let's broaden the lens here. You heard John Kerry, the climate czar. Watermelon head.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Every step forward depends not on one country acting alone, but acting all together, helping to push the rest of the world to do what we need to do. Except China. To win this battle. That really isn't it. Oh, it's a battle. They should call it the climate war. How come they don't call it? She says to win this battle.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Call it the war. To do what we need to do. Actually, you know, I think that's better messaging. Climate war? Climate war. Yeah, we're much better. I mean, that's what we do. We fight wars.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Climate war. War on climate. Climate war on drugs. Well, you can't say the war on climate. Just climate war. Climate war. Climate war. That would work.
Starting point is 00:21:24 To push the rest of the world to do what we need to do to win this battle. Climate war. Climate war. Climate war. Climate war. That would work out. To push the rest of the world to do what we need to do to win this battle. That really isn't happening. Just look at China. Not yet. But time is running out. The bomb is already here, as you said. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Oh, no. These metaphors are working for me all of a sudden. Climate war. The bomb is already here. With Oppenheimer, that kind me all of a sudden. Climate war, the bomb is already here. These, you know, with Oppenheimer, that kind of gives you a vibe. You know, we could program people's minds with this. But time is running out. The bomb is already here, as you said.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Exactly. Exactly. So what do you do? Exactly. How do you bring those together? It's one thing what your state is doing, what the nation is trying to do. But this is a worldwide problem. You lead. You tell your kids to lead. When you send is trying to do, but this is a worldwide problem. You lead. You tell your kids to lead when you send them to summer camp. You say, lead.
Starting point is 00:22:10 The United States should be and is a leader in this. Wait a minute. Are you supposed to abuse your children? Lead. Okay, mom. I'll lead. When you go to summer camp, kid, don't listen to the counselor. Lead. Lead. You lead. You tell your kids to lead when you send them
Starting point is 00:22:26 to summer camp you say lead the united states this is the dumbest thing i've ever heard when you send your kids to summer camp summer's over okay you lead the united states should be and is the leader in this effort and people are coming along we need to to lead and we need to lead not just from a moral standpoint but from our self-interest standpoint We need to lead, and we need to lead not just from a moral standpoint, but from our self-interest standpoint. We need to build these jobs here and build these economies here, these battery companies that are coming in throughout
Starting point is 00:22:53 the Midwest. I thought you already had them. What is he talking about? We're rebuilding the Rust Belt in the Midwest United States into the Silicon Belt and the Belt of New Innovation. So this is a self-interest. There's a catchy phrase. the Silicon Belt and the belt of new innovation. So this is a self-interest. There's a catchy phrase.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Silicon Belt. No, the belt of new innovation. We're rebuilding the Rust Belt in the Midwest United States into the Silicon Belt and the belt of new innovation. So this is a self-interest for us to take action. And we're certainly committed to it. A belt is such a bad name. Can you think of getting beat with the belt, tightening the belt, I'm fat?
Starting point is 00:23:37 You know, belt is not a good image. Bad on you, Ainsley. And again, if you want to be an economic leader, follow Washington State. And what we're doing, we're building the largest fuel cell in the world, powering the largest truck. They're building the largest fuel cell in the world? What is he talking about? I mean, how big? There it is, Janet. Look at the size of that one fuel cell. Washington State. And what we're doing, we're building the largest fuel
Starting point is 00:24:09 cell in the world, powering the largest truck in the world. Governor? The largest truck in the world! With the largest fuel cell. It must be in that truck. Basically, the truck transports a fuel cell, and it drives on it. Wow, useful truck.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And what we're doing, we're building the largest fuel cell in the world, powering the largest truck in the world. Governor? New kinds of batteries we have invented here. You bet. New kinds of batteries? Is that like the largest ball of string? Is he full of shit or what? I mean, what kind of?
Starting point is 00:24:42 He says new kinds of batteries we're inventing here. Where is this happening? I have not heard of this. Hello, it's in the belt of innovation. this shit or what i mean what kind of he says new kinds of batteries we're inventing here where is this happening i have not heard of this hello it's in the belt of innovation well that's no that's in the midwest he's talking about washington well they've got the largest ball of string well that is a fact here they just have the largest bunch of bull crap and so far as their elections are concerned it's all mail-in ballots. It's completely corrupt. This guy wouldn't be governor anywhere if it wasn't for some machine
Starting point is 00:25:09 they've got set up that gives them phony votes. It's a horrible place. Final clip. Governor, you have, just quickly if you can, you know, you have candidates out there like Donald Trump who mock the idea of climate change, and there are a vast number of Americans who ignore it, don't care about it or don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Oh, that's us. Oh, we're going to get some wisdom, some words of wisdom from Gov. Who don't care about it or don't believe it. How do you convince those people it's time to care? OK, now, how what would convince you? What would convince me? What would convince us? Actual facts after a scientific debate that actually result in some sort of conclusion, which will never happen.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Some real numbers. now i don't it's a situation where they're not fudging numbers for years on end and then going whoops oh we're sorry we fudged that number i don't look over here when all that ends maybe i would be it might be convinced is some is that possible and i should say that um this is all coming on the heels of a report and we we talked about, I think on the last show, the World Weather Attribution Institute, which is... Yeah, a new... Well, it's actually, it's part of the Imperial Institute now. Oh. It used to be a Dutch guy who started...
Starting point is 00:26:37 Yeah, yeah, the ones who got... Oh, the guys who predicted that everyone would die from COVID, those guys? Those guys, exactly. And I looked up their methods. Their methods by analyzing that it's the hottest ever we're all gonna die is analyzing observed real world weather data collected from weather stations in the study region researchers can find out how unlikely the extreme weather event is and identify any trends in the intensity of similar events this is
Starting point is 00:27:00 interesting analysis can determine how frequently weather events events, it's all weather now. It used to be climate, it's not weather, but it is now. How frequently weather events of a similar intensity would have been expected to occur before humans started burning fossil fuels in the late 1800s, which means the researchers can calculate the difference in the probability of an event occurring in the late 1800s compared to the probability of an event occurring today. The study uses computer modeling to isolate the role of human, to try, it even says, to try to isolate the role of human-induced climate change in that event. induced climate change in that event yeah this is like stock market analysis it's so simple to take and come up with a formula that will predict the price of a stock and then then retroactively push it into the 1900s say the 1930s and then track the stock run the model oh look it went up that means it'll do that forever. Never works.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Yeah, it's Bollinger Bands, basically. Researchers use modeling that simulates the likelihood and intensity of the weather event in two worlds. Today's world with 1.2 degrees centigrade of human induced global warming and a hypothetical world without human-caused climate change. Researchers then compared the results to find out if climate change made the event more or less likely and intense. This is what they're going on, which is bizarre. All right, let's listen to his convincing words. Well, we can't wait for Donald Trump to figure this out. Oh, I'm convinced.
Starting point is 00:28:48 We don't have time to mess around, to wait for this knucklehead to figure this out. Is this a solution, but not waiting for knuckleheads? We just got to make sure he's not in office. Oh, oh, it's about voting. Don't vote for Trump, and then we'll be saying this whole thing is about with the answer that don't vote for don't vote for trump and the way we do this is vote against climate deniers vote against people who refuse to assist this moral and economic crisis that we have you can't wait for these folks you just got to make sure they're not in an office
Starting point is 00:29:25 where they can do damage. Let them go off and play golf. Remember, the question was, how do we bring people together? How do we convince them it's time? By telling them they're idiots. Don't vote for the knucklehead. We'll solve this problem.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's a solvable problem. Vote for me. If we work together. And people are coming around to this very, very rapidly because their homes are burning down. They're choking on smoke from the Canadian fires. Choking on smoke? Which is all
Starting point is 00:29:53 climate change related, mind you. I'm sorry? Sucking on soot. From the Canadian fires. When Ron DeSantis wants to go swim and he can't because the water is like a sauna, a hot tub off his beaches wait a minute wait a minute are the florida waters like a sauna like a like a hot tub is that true well the ocean temperatures are on 90 that's not a sauna no i think saunas are pretty hot that's not that's not a sauna. No, I think saunas are pretty hot.
Starting point is 00:30:26 That's not a hot tub. My pool, unheated here in Texas, is almost 98 degrees. Unheated? Yeah, it's not a sauna. I got a small pool. It's not a sauna. It's not a hot tub. I don't think the oceans are like saunas and hot tubs. Hey, the oceans are boiling.
Starting point is 00:30:43 But it's Ron DeSantis, so don't vote for him either. They're choking on smoke from the Canadian fires. When Ron DeSantis... Don't vote for Canadians. ...wants to go swim and he can't because the water is like a sauna, like a hot tub off his beaches. We just got to make sure those folks are not in office. We don't have the luxury of allowing these people to destroy the planet.
Starting point is 00:31:05 You have to destroy your cities with homelessness instead. Man, oh man. Where was the, was it here, this song? Oh, not that one. That's too long. We have a small one, I thought. A short one. Sucking on soot.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Sucking on soot, yeah. Go ahead. You might die. Sucking in soot. You might die. Sucking in soot. That's right. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So where does this all come from? As I mentioned, the elite messaging machine. It's coming from the top. It's always comes from the top. This is the message across the elite universe. We're going to be beaten to death with it. That's how we're going to die. Not from climate change,
Starting point is 00:31:56 but from just not being, just being beaten over the head with this message over and over and over again, because it's warm. It's a summer and there's some fires it's summer it's oh no it's summer and it's hot go figure so this morning by the way it's not hot here no and here it's uh what are we at now we're not even a hundred most days now whatever um this morning live conference in english and french from the un secretary general guateras and he he has had a conversation he has uh he has come up with a new term that that might actually it's a throwback it's kind of a retro term and he's got a few other
Starting point is 00:32:43 gems i i only got the first couple of minutes of it um as he laid down the land and then of course it went into we need more money we need more money gotta spend money very good morning good morning humanity is in the hot seats oh yeah humanity is in the hot seats what an an opening. Good job, Secretary General. Today, the World Meteorological Organization and the European Commission's Copernicus Climate Change Service. There's a service you can get climate change from. Official data that confirms that July 2023 is set to be the hottest month ever recorded in human history. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Can we just call that bull crap? To listen to this, by the way, the local news, they're dropping some gems. One guy said it's going to be the hottest in over 100,000 years, as if anyone had a clue. It's the hottest ever since humans have been around. Yes, yes, yes. We don't have to wait for the end of the month to know this.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Short of a mini ice age over the next day. Yes, we already know it. Doesn't matter he's gonna say this is gonna be the hottest month on record ever since human beings have walked the earth unless there's a mini ice age that pops up all of a sudden for the end of the month to know this short of a mini ice age over the next days july 2023 will shatter records across the board. According to the data released today, July has already seen the hottest three-week period ever recorded, the three hottest days on record,
Starting point is 00:34:37 and the highest ever ocean temperatures for this time of year. It's a hot tub! The consequences are clear, and they are tragic. Children swept away by monsoon rains. Children are being swept away by monsoon rains. Families running from the flames. You're running...
Starting point is 00:34:58 On fire. Workers collapsing in scorching heat. Well, they're collapsing on the on the basketball court on espn they're collapsing everywhere but yeah i guess from the heat for vast parts of north america asia africa and europe it's a cruel summer cruel hey there's a song it's a cruel cruel summer for the entire planet it is a And for scientists, it is unequivocal. Humans are to blame. All this is entirely consistent with predictions and repeated warnings.
Starting point is 00:35:34 No, no, no, no. You've got to listen to the guy. This is where the money is being requested. He might as well be under view. For the entire planet, it is a disaster disaster and for scientists it is unequivocal humans are to blame bastards all this is entirely consistent with predictions and repeated warnings the only surprise is the speed of the change. Climate change is here. It is terrifying, and it is just the beginning.
Starting point is 00:36:11 It is terrifying, and it is just the beginning. The era of global warming... What? No, no, just keep going. Sorry. Well, this is his new slogan. Here's the retro slogan. his new this is his new uh his new slogan here's the retro slogan the era of global warming has ended the area the era of global boiling has arrived boiling well you know he may be onto
Starting point is 00:36:34 something with the global boiling because there's a uh there's a here's a news reporter reading right from the screen about the hot temperatures in Texas. Hold on a second. Do you have this? Yeah. Hot temps. Hold on a second. Oh, hot temps.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Okay. Terrell and in Dallas, your heat index is 107. Everyone in McKinney is dead. The temperature, the heat index right now in McKinney is 10,000. What is that? 101,105. It's hot in McKinney is 10 000 what is that 101 105 it's hot in mckinney yeah i had this clip but i felt it worked better with um with the visual but it fits in well here with the so but remember it was global warming then it was climate change because it wasn't really warming it started to get
Starting point is 00:37:21 cooler we must remember these things um because that was the big joke. This all started around the same time the No Agenda show started with the global warming, with Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth. Remember, there will be no more polar bears. Now it's like the things are everywhere. It's like the dangerous. I know, they're a plague. But you put them on a sheet of ice floating around and put some some music under it yeah so the polar bears are
Starting point is 00:37:49 now a plague um so he's going and so we had the the climate change but that it's just not working you know and then and they made the mistake of saying weather's not climate and now they're trying to desperately say well extreme weather events yeah that's climate and now he's thinking you know you know what i go back i go back and i take the global warming and i make it global boiling boiling you're boiling like frogs the era of global warming has ended the area the here and he flubs the line too which is must irk him to no end, because it's probably his idea. The era of global warming has ended. The era of global boiling has arrived. The air is unbreathable.
Starting point is 00:38:34 The heat is unbearable. And the level of fossil fuel profits and climate inaction is unacceptable. Leaders must lead. No more hesitancy. No more excuses. Do you hear the similarity in the language with Governor Inslee? Leaders must lead. You have to lead.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Tell your kids at summer camp to lead. Leaders must lead. Okay. Leaders must lead. No more hesitancy. No more excuses. No more waitingancy. No more excuses. No more waiting for others to move first. There is simply
Starting point is 00:39:10 no more time for that. No more. It is still possible to limit global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius and avoid the very worst... Because if you spend some money, if we got some money, then it's still possible.
Starting point is 00:39:26 It is still possible to limit global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius and avoid the very worst of climate change, but only with dramatic, immediate climate action. And climate action equals dollar, dollar, dollar. Give me another dollar. Okay, so that's been that's the message you gotta lead you gotta spend some money we're all gonna die it's global boiling of course we're doing lots of things we have i like global boiling by the way you think it's you think that's gonna work no i just like it personally i think it's funny well it is kind of the you know the the oceans are boiling we're all boiling we're
Starting point is 00:40:06 like frogs it could it could get legs we'll see but of course we we've done lots of things already you know we've got great windmill farms ruining our our beaches we've got uh pass on the panels that uh only work when there's sun obviously obviously. Expensive, break often, and don't really make a difference. We've got electric vehicles. Electric vehicles have been great. The problem is those new batteries that we're making in Washington when you lift up a rock, they seem to be pretty unstable. I think there's been 50 fires in New York City alone from e-bikes this year.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I had a whole e-bike story that we never played that there was clips. It's kind of funny. Well, before we go, before we go there. But there was you going to talk about the ship? Yes. Tonight, a cargo ship loaded with nearly 3000 vehicles is burning off the northern coast of the Netherlands. One crew member was killed and several others were injured boats and helicopters were used to get the nearly two dozen crew members
Starting point is 00:41:11 to safety the dutch coast guard is trying to keep the ship from sinking near a habitat for migratory birds so this story obfuscates many other boring stories to talk about the electric vehicles that are on board from volkswagen the hybrids and they're the and that caught on it went so fast as fire that one guy died they would jump 11 people jumped i was watching some dutch news 11 people jumped overboard oh oh but the habitat for the birds this they're not going to put it out this it's called i like the of the habitat for the birds. Good work. Save the birds.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, don't look at that. Now, I had this clip on the last show. We didn't get to play it. This is up in your neck of the woods. Now, there is some other technology as we move away from the inherently unstable lithium-ion batteries that just, man, you're mass bumping like crazy no i'm mumbling oh you want is that oh i'm bumping the mic myself with my uh do woods have a neck only in your neck this is a good question to interrupt my flow with about some linguistic issue. The neck of the woods.
Starting point is 00:42:26 My neck of the woods. I'm thinking, where are the woods, A? And where's the neck of the woods? You can't actually fuck an ant either. But this is a fine example of it. Pardon my French. Okay. In your area of California, which is clearly affecting your brain, we decided that, you know, we're going to do something else for climate change.
Starting point is 00:42:51 And your No Agenda show has been on this from the minute we spotted it. Hydrogen. Hydrogen is the way to go. We need everything to be running on hydrogen. Yes, hydrogen. It's when you burn hydrogen, all you get is water. Now, what does it cost to make hydrogen? Well, let's not talk about that, but let's just make everything hydrogen because it's safe and effective. A huge loss to our community tonight. We have new details on Kern County's new hydrogen fueling station going up in flames. This all happened around one in the morning. Bakersfield Fire responded to
Starting point is 00:43:25 reports of flames and explosions on the property of the Golden Empire Transit, also known as GET. Eyewitness News reporter Mary Pernian spoke with a GET employee about more details on what exactly happened. Yeah, Michael Rochelle, at that time of the fire, the hydrogen buses were being fueled at the hydrogen fueling station. Now, the marketing director of the company spoke to me today, and she said several damages are in the way to recover. Let's take a look. We see fires happening throughout Kern County and Bakersfield, but this shocking footage of the massive explosion shows clouds of smoke releasing into the midnight sky.
Starting point is 00:44:02 The blast was heard and seen from the tanks on the bus that had just been filled. A section of the Golden State Highway was shut down as the Bakersfield Fire Department battled the flames. The company's hydrogen fueling station was damaged, though the hydrogen fuel cell bus was completely burned to ashes. Luckily, no one was hurt, and the primary tanks of the actual fueling station did not catch fire thanks to safety technology. The same safety technology that stopped everything from catching fire in the first place?
Starting point is 00:44:34 Janet Sanders, the marketing director for Golden Empire Transit, says more and more of their buses will be moving away from traditional fuel and use zero emission fuel like the ones involved in the fire the state-of-the-art fueling station opened up just seven months ago and since they're the only hydrogen fueling station in town there will be delays because we are the only hydrogen fueling station in kern county we won't be able to fuel our 10 hydrogen buses. So it could possibly cause some delays in our service because there will be 10 buses out of service. Wow, that's great. That's great. Hydrogen fuel fires.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Fantastic. Just for a correction for anyone out there listening to the show, Kern County is nowhere in my neck of the woods or nearby. It's like saying, well, Oklahoma City in your neck of the woods. I stand corrected. I repent for my obvious mistake and cussing. I'm so sorry. Well, the cussing was part of the ant.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yeah, that's true. What do you say in Dutch? Mierenuken. Yeah, Mierenuken. That's going to be a ringtone all over the Netherlands. All right, so back to the heat wave. This morning, the record-smashing heat wave is expanding. Triple-digit temperatures are possible in the Plains and Midwest in the coming days,
Starting point is 00:45:57 from Wichita to Minneapolis. And by week's end, temperatures near 100 for Chicago. And we got smoke, we got heat, then we got storms in the forecast. It's new. For the week ahead. Doctors warn this heat can take a toll on your heart. A new study finds the soaring temperatures combined with poor air quality can double your risk of suffering a deadly heart attack.
Starting point is 00:46:17 In Arizona, it's the pavement causing a surge in patients at the Phoenix Burn Center. We have just been seeing a huge spike in the number of people with contact burns. You know, most people don't realize that the pavement, concrete, cement, sidewalks, rocks, the temperature of those surfaces can get to be 170 to 180 degrees, which is just a little bit below. If they don't live there. Yeah, I mean, what are people, are they laying down on the pavement? Oh, it's so hot, I think I'm going to lay down on the pavement. How do you get a pavement burn? Oh, the boiling temperature of water.
Starting point is 00:46:47 So it only takes a fraction of a second to get a really bad burn. Today, Phoenix is expected to see its 26th consecutive day of 110 degrees or hotter. It hasn't been below 90 degrees in 15 days. We always expect to see some of these cases, but the numbers this year are just off the charts. Well, it's true. I mean, the heat is so bad around the United States. We've had a number of incidents, heart attacks, all kinds of things happening. We turn now to the on-air emergency for a sports analyst at ESPN. From PSG, he's not gone on the tour of Japan.
Starting point is 00:47:22 What have you been supposed to say? Jack! Jack! A terrifying moment playing out on live TV. He's not gone on the tour of Japan. What have you been supposed to say? Shaq! Shaq! A terrifying moment playing out on live TV. Wait, we need some help. We need energy. ESPN analyst Shaka Hislop collapsing on air just minutes before a soccer match at the Rose Bowl. The 54-year-old former Premier League player seen stumbling before collapsing to the ground. His co-host Dan Thomas immediately calling
Starting point is 00:47:46 for medical staff before the broadcast cut to a commercial. Later at halftime, a visibly relieved Thomas gave viewers an update on Hislop's condition. It's good news. He's conscious. He's talking. I think he's a little embarrassed about it all. He's apologised profusely. And now Hislop himself
Starting point is 00:48:02 speaking out. That was awkward. What a 24 hours this has been. Listen, every so often life gives you a moment to pause and this was mine. There's so much I have to be thankful for. My wife, kids, family, loved ones. My response now has to be to seek out the best medical opinion that I can get and listen to what my doctors have to say. Hislop ending his message by thanking the ESPN employees that rushed to his aid saying he'll be back soon. I'm looking forward to getting back. Doing what I enjoy doing most. See you in a bit.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Now the temperature was around 86 degrees at the time. There's still no word on what caused him to faint. Oh no, it's the heat. Of course, it was the heat. They tried to shoehorn 86, which is a temperature, which is actually quite nice. No, no. People are getting heart attacks and collapsing from the heat wave. Meanwhile, health concerns this morning.
Starting point is 00:48:56 For Grammy winner Tori Kelly, the 30-year-old singer is in the hospital for multiple blood clots. She was reportedly at dinner with friends when she collapsed. Sources say doctors are working to determine if her heart is in any danger. And, I mean, it can be any age. You can be 18. Tonight, the son of a basketball superstar facing a medical emergency.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Ronnie James! Ronnie James rushed to the ER during a practice Monday at the University of Southern California. A family spokesperson saying while practicing, Bronny James suffered a cardiac arrest. Medical staff was able to treat Bronny and take him to the hospital. He's now in stable condition and no longer in ICU.
Starting point is 00:49:35 The 18-year-old is the son of NBA legend LeBron James and one of the most highly touted incoming college basketball players. He was preparing for his first season on the USC basketball team. Cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death for young athletes. What? Is this true? It is now. Cardiac arrest is the leading cause for death amongst young athletes?
Starting point is 00:50:00 Oh, I'd never heard this. Well, they've been saying this for a couple of years now. It turns out just as COVID started up, this has been the message. Oh, okay. Cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death for young athletes. And African-American college basketball players like James are the population at the highest risk. By the way, I'm not saying that this hasn't been happening. It's just I didn't know it was the leading cause.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Well, I would like to see some charts. Yeah. I want to see a some charts. Yeah. According to a study... I want to see a time chart. Yeah. The American Heart Association Journal. What could have led to this? There are multiple factors
Starting point is 00:50:32 that can cause cardiac arrest. Oh, okay. I'm very interested. Whether it's something that they've had, like a disease in the heart, so it's a congenital or something that they developed
Starting point is 00:50:42 after having an infection. Doctors with this advice for parents of athletes of any age any student that's going to start any sport should do a pre-participation physical and that includes a an evaluation of their medical history and then also asks the appropriate questions like are you vaxxed there You know, athletes, especially someone like Bronny James, LeBron James' kid, they're overanalyzed. It's not like they slip through the cracks. Well, there's some interesting analysis, two clips. The first one, this is a follow-up from that ABC report.
Starting point is 00:51:21 You mentioned that it's rare. Is it rare in young people? I mean, as young as 18 years old? Wait a minute, it's the leading cause of young athletic death. How can it be rare? Wait, beautiful. You're exactly right. If it's the leading cause of death, how is it rare? This is relatively rare, but again, we do see a few cases every year. I've seen some studies estimating that it's about one out of 80,000 athletes. Well, surely car accidents are the leading cause of death for young athletes over this. But these stories are extremely scary, and they are important to talk to your doctors about if you have any particular concerns, if you have a family history, or just to learn a little bit
Starting point is 00:51:57 more information. Because like I mentioned, some of these cases of cardiac arrest can be attributed to things with the electrical system that are related to genetics and not necessarily lifestyle. But it is still very important to maintain a good lifestyle for overall heart health. The electrical system. Now I'm interested. The electrical system. This doctor sounds more like a guy who does transgender surgeries. Let's check out NBC's analysis.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Tonight, the son of a basketball superstar facing a medical emergency. Bronny James! Bronny James rushed to the ER during a practice Monday at the University of Southern California. A family spokesperson saying while practicing, Bronny James suffered a cardiac arrest.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Medical staff was able to treat Bronny and take him to the hospital. He's now in stable condition and no longer in ICU. Can I say something for a second? Sure. They played the exact same B-roll that the other network played.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Yeah, of course. Which makes me think this is a package. Yeah. You don't dig up the exact, out of the blue coincidentally have the exact same b-roll bullseye it takes a shot it's good for three and whatever you know this exact same b-roll well that's all that it was uh you know they had to license everything else from uh the owners of the the nba and nba only released once that's probably what happened probably what happened. NBA had pre-licensed this.
Starting point is 00:53:26 He's not an NBA player. He's got nothing to do with the NBA. He's a college player. I'm full of crap. I don't know what I'm talking about. He's a high schooler that just hasn't even played his first game for USC. He's got nothing to do with the NBA. Do you think that he has a shot at his career
Starting point is 00:53:41 now or is this going to be a hangover? He'll come back. He'll be fine. He's now in stable condition and no longer in ICU. The 18-year-old is the son of NBA legend LeBron James and one of the most highly touted incoming college basketball players. He was preparing for his first season on the USC basketball team. Cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death for young athletes. It's the same script even. It's the same script. Are. It's the same script.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Are you sure you're not playing the same clip? No, I'm very sure. Am I playing the same script? No, I don't know. Oh, man. Maybe I'm, maybe, you know what? I think I have a heat stroke. Let's try this one.
Starting point is 00:54:21 But we did begin with that break. It's the heat in Texas. It's the heat in Texas. Is he new to the whole town? Hey, it's the same clip. No wonder they have the same B-roll. Wow. stroke let's try this one but we do begin with that breaking news on lebron james son i need a booster ronnie james in a los angeles hospital right now after suffering cardiac arrest during basketball practice at usc in a statement to ABC News, a family spokesperson says that Bronny is now in stable condition and out of the ICU. That spokesperson also asking for privacy for the family and says
Starting point is 00:54:55 LeBron James and his wife Savannah want to publicly thank the USC medical and athletic staff for their incredible work. Bronny James is a highly touted prospect and is expected to play in the NBA after his college career. For more, I want to bring in ABC News contributor and pediatrician, Dr. Alok Patel. So, Doc, let's just start with how something like this could have happened. You know, he's a star athlete, presumably in peak physical condition, right? He's only 18 years old. I mean, we saw what happened to Damar Hamlin.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Sometimes these things happen just unexpectedly, even when you're a healthy kid. Here, that's exactly right. You know, when we do see cases of cardiac arrest in young, healthy individuals, which I have seen in the hospital, it's usually due to something related to the heart's electrical system.
Starting point is 00:55:42 I've never heard this electrical system thing. So this is, they are doing this. This is another clip where they're doing the electrical system i've never heard this electrical system thing so this is they are doing this this is another clip where they're doing the electrical system bit but find that interesting maybe it's absolutely correct but for some reason or another the heart stops and this can cause people to collapse lose their pulse feel faint all of these things can definitely happen with hamlin's case it was a direct blow to his chest but in other cases it can be something people that was the same with um with the nba player at the nba with the nfl player no that's what that's who he's talking about hamlin is the nfl oh he's talking about hamlin so now i remember this situation very he wasn't he a direct blow to his chest no it wasn't he was standing there in a kind of a huddle and it just died on the spot.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I mean, he literally died, but they snapped him out of it. We're almost done here. Feel faint. All of these things can definitely happen. With DeMar Hamlin's case, it was a direct blow to his chest. But in other cases, it can be something people are born with and they may not find out until they do a high intensity activity. So while it is rare, cardiac arrest in general can affect about 300,000 people a year. So as a broader topic, this is something we should definitely talk about and different than heart attacks, which is usually a decrease of blood flow to the heart, which people are more common with those symptoms like chest pain, leg numbness, arm weakness, et cetera. Well, anyway, if people think I'm talking about the vax it's obviously not people who are vaccinated that's just not possible uh and and and you can't say you know maybe they
Starting point is 00:57:10 had covid because you know covid wasn't really that bad our president even told us just the other day we're still feeling the profound loss of the pandemic as i mentioned over 100 people dead that's 100 empty chairs around the kitchen table the best part is that he continues i had that one i was thinking i had him we'll put this one now i want to be very clear and say i feel i feel really bad for these people i mean whenever they have a medical emergency i mean i pray for them to get better of course so we're not just you you know, ghouls here. And there are some legitimate issues with the heat. I mean, it does, I mean, we're under a, you know, possible fire emergency here. They've got the water planes, you know, that drop the water. They got them at the airport here,
Starting point is 00:58:00 seven minutes away from us. So anything could happen happen and i did receive a request from sarah uh who is in the hill country and she says i know y'all don't like to shake the rain stick unless it's drastic but our well just ran dry in our part of hill country we live about 15 minutes north of san antonio bulverde there are many around us whose wells are dry and we have to have water hauled in from canyon lake but the water guys informed us they're going into stage three drought soon and will not be able to haul water we desperately need rain in curville that's 27 minutes from my house and here to replenish the aquifer there are so many people flooding in here that we that won't stop watering their yards and won't collect rainwater, which we're doing now, she says.
Starting point is 00:58:47 We have a homestead with animals and a garden, but it's hard to keep things alive with so little water. This is an SOS. Prayers would also be appreciated greatly. I would like to do a stick shake, even though it will affect me. You can do this shake and that will no be fine no it has this localized situation you're 20 minutes away your stick is right there it has if i do a stick i want you it's going to affect the entire world flooding we need point it towards me point it towards me and the only what would the back scatter might hit some of Alaska. They'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I would like two shakes for... Okay, I'll compromise and give one half shake. Okay, here we go. One, two, three. Woo! All right. Batten down the hatches, Tina. It's coming.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Well, it's about 65 degrees here and it's foggy. Why don't they talk about that? They never talk about how these areas like here, which has been unseasonably cold throughout June. We normally have a nice summer in June. Never happened, and it's still cold right through July. Is this a story? Is this a story in that?
Starting point is 01:00:13 That's a good news story. We can't have that. That's no good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Can't have that. Well, if you want to be the only cruel person who will probably do something like make some commentary about COVID. Yeah. Ted Nugent.
Starting point is 01:00:30 What? Hold on a second. Chris Hines. Ted Nugent on a podcast. I can't believe this guy. No wonder he's not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He's politically incorrect. The Nuge.
Starting point is 01:00:41 The Nuge. What did he do now? What did the Nuge do now? Yeah. He's just being interviewed would you speak to the people who believe it is a worthwhile vaccine and it is saving lives are they just dead wrong are they been feed a federal line from the federal government tim i appreciate the opportunity to speak to the people that went ahead and got the jab i speak their language they understand that well so all these millions of people that got the shots they're just stupid yep ah the nudes man i can't believe he's not in the rock and roll hall of fame and neither can Senator Mitch McConnell.
Starting point is 01:01:25 A regular Senate ritual interrupted today by 19 seconds of silence, quickly turning to concern for the health of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who appeared to freeze up as he began his weekly news conference. Well, good afternoon, everyone. We're on a path to finishing the NDA this week. We've been good by the hearts and cooperation. And a string of... His fellow senators, including John Barrasso, a medical doctor from Wyoming,
Starting point is 01:02:04 You want to say anything else to the press? eventually helping the 81-year-old McConnell away from the podium. Returning moments later, the Senate's top Republican shrugged off a reporter's question about the moment. do your job. McConnell, who in January became the longest serving party leader in Senate history, has suffered a series of health challenges in recent years. He had shoulder surgery after a fall in 2019, and he spent six weeks recovering from a concussion and fractured ribs, suffered in a March fall, after which he has sometimes struggled to make out questions from reporters. McConnell's office has been tight lipped about the incident, saying only that the senator was feeling lightheaded and pointing out that he answered reporters questions sharply after he returned.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah, they tried to take him out with the pricker. You know, so I was I was. First of all, it feels very sad when you saw the video, right? Yeah, he froze. Now, do you think that maybe he pooped his pants? And it's like, oh my God, what am I going to do? I don't know. Okay, please.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Well, it could have been dementia. I mean, that kind of brain freeze, that seems pretty severe. I'm no doctor. There's no analysis of that well there's been a couple of discussions okay but again it's like you can't get good material except from podcasts nowadays yes that's correct do you have something i was talking to mimi about this and the conversation went like this i said well i you know i've been watching the reviews and all the fawning things about the movie Barbie. But when you listen to the podcasters complain about the movie because it's got all kinds of messaging and it's really woke and it's got all these issues with the – it's a propagandistic film besides being an advertisement for the doll.
Starting point is 01:04:02 And I said, the best reviews I've gotten aren't the 86%. Yeah, it's great from Rotten Tomatoes professionals. It's from these various podcasters that are moaning and groaning or saying one thing or another on both sides of the debate. They're members of the public that have, they're not just guys. Here's another thing. It's not just the guy on the street who some reporter shoves a microphone into
Starting point is 01:04:28 Michael Curtis did a whole little movie about this where you shove a microphone into some rando person on the street, so I thought that was great, these are people who put themselves out there thinking that they're spokespeople for I don't know who, but they're on TikTok, they're on Instagram, they're here and they're there
Starting point is 01:04:44 and their material is better than the mainstream I don't know who, but they're on TikTok. They're on Instagram. They're here and they're there. And their material is better than the mainstream. That's interesting. Of course, it does depend on, and that's the beauty of podcasting. You're welcome. Is you really can get all kinds of opinions. I have overwhelmingly heard positive things on podcasts and from our own producers. Interestingly, do you have any,
Starting point is 01:05:08 any negative? Do you have any examples? No, I didn't bring them. This is why there's two of us. This is why there's two of us, which is great. I mean,
Starting point is 01:05:15 so as an example, we are very skeptical about worldwide pandemics and, and how they come to be and that there's going to be a next one. But if you go to this podcast, the World Economic Forum Radio Davos podcast, you might think something else. A pathogen known as disease X, the virus that we don't know yet, but we do know is out there. Welcome to Radio Davos, the podcast from the World Economic Forum that looks at the biggest challenges and how we might solve them. This week, the next
Starting point is 01:05:49 pandemic is a matter of when, not if. So how can the world prepare for disease X? We can actually gain a lot of knowledge ahead of time about something that doesn't exist yet. A new book called Disease X says that even though we can't avoid future novel viruses arising, we can prepare for them and prevent a global disaster on the scale of COVID-19 happening again. When all of that homework has been done, we will be possibly quite a few steps ahead of any new virus before it emerges. We're kind of almost ready for anything that these viral families can throw at us. Author Kate Kellan says that even in a geopolitically fragmented world,
Starting point is 01:06:30 history shows we can still all work together against this common enemy. The vast majority of the smallpox eradication work was done during the Cold War. The US and Russia were pointing missiles at each other, but they were also sharing vaccines. There was this huge push to eradicate this terrible disease disease x as far as i'm concerned disease x is already here well i'm sure it's in the lab no but here's an interesting thing it's what we had turned twitter into a hundred years ago there was the sp Spanish flu. A hundred years ago. And a hundred years later, we have this COVID thing, which was probably blab created or created or augmented from something real.
Starting point is 01:07:13 There's some evidence about the Spanish flu coming from research as well. Yeah, well, that seems pretty unlikely considering the era. Military vaccination research and uh i find that hard hard to take but whatever the case if these if the cycle's 100 years who cares why are you putting people in a panic because because we need one we need another panic this global boiling thing is not working we know we can get people to stay inside and mask up and social distance and telecommute. That's the only way we can go. Meanwhile, there is truly a pandemic.
Starting point is 01:07:55 And I'm sad to have to present this news. Because I've been warning about this semaglutide,zempic wagovi i've been saying it's a they're too they're too jacked up about it they're all too happy you know do we really have the research do we really know what's going on and and with this report from uh dr terry what's his name terry dubrow we also find out what happened to lisa marie presley do you know what she died of did she die that stomach situation you're going to discuss yes i didn't know that i didn't know she died well a couple of i talked about this uh well to play the clip because i have a thought on good good good good let's talk about weight loss surgery bariatric
Starting point is 01:08:43 surgery there are several different kinds i have read lisa marie's autopsy report she had the most advanced kind basically you disconnect part of the intestines so you just don't absorb as much food and that's how you get calorie restriction so she had bypassed part of her intestines. They made a new connection between her stomach and her intestines. And the most common complication when you go inside the abdomen and do that kind of surgery is that scar tissue forms. And that's called adhesions can block parts of the small intestine and cause what's called a small bowel obstruction. And that can lead to a process, and it goes on long enough, called strangulation, where the intestines actually die. Recent studies have shown that if you're on ozempic type drugs, they can slow down your intestines.
Starting point is 01:09:47 They can predispose you to intestinal obstruction. And there may be the perfect unfortunate storm of previous surgery with intestinal scarring, opioid use. use so you can't tell that you're that sick and further slowing of the intestines by the use of these miracle weight loss drugs that virtually everyone is on in hollywood if you're going to go on the ozempic type drugs and you get intestinal pain you get stomach bloating you get pain you drink alcohol with this you're predisposed to intestinal obstruction and pancreatitis. And right now, right now, I have three of my patients who are on Ozempic, okay, that haven't even had surgery yet, in the hospital to the ICU with intestinal and pancreatitis just from the use of Ozempic. Nobody's talking about this right now now but we need to talk about it all right you have a comment yeah this is one of those situations and i i would say the uh m
Starting point is 01:10:53 m rna vaccine is similar where you where there's something out there that is being used ozempic is used from for some diabetics yes And it's a diet for specific purposes. Yes. And it may be causing the same effect with patients that are getting it as diabetics. But until you roll it out, and in this case, it wasn't rolled out by,
Starting point is 01:11:21 it was rolled out on a word of mouth, let's all get a prescription for it, the doctor sign off on it no problem through hollywood through hollywood influencers through hollywood influencers it gets rolled out to the to the mass market then these things start to show up it's actually like a test market that is well it's a life and death test market but it's because of that this could have this drug could still be could be used for the next hundred years without anyone noticing that this is probably the main problem
Starting point is 01:11:51 with this thing with this horrible product well all these products are problematic um now i have a bobby the k clip i want to play about the vaccine. But first, I want to thank Josh Sewell, producer Josh, who in his studio using waves and isotope, I guess these are plugins, I think created the cleanest Bobby the K clip of what he really said about the COVID virus. I've been trying to clean this up we've used the adobe product uh it has not worked i want you to tell me and if it's if it's not good enough john we'll stop it right away but we may be the only media outlet in possession of something you can actually hear what he actually said. we have put hundreds of millions of dollars into ethnically targeted microbes. The Chinese have done the same thing. In fact, COVID-19, there's an argument that it is ethnically targeted.
Starting point is 01:13:15 COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately. disproportionately. The races that are most immune to COVID-19 are because of the structure of the genetic structure or genetic differentials among different races of the receptors of the ACE2 receptor.
Starting point is 01:13:44 COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese. And we don't know whether it was deliberately targeted or not, but there are papers out there that show the racial and ethnic differential impact to that. We do know that the Chinese are spending hundreds of millions of dollars developing ethnic bioweapons, and we are developing ethnic bioweapons. That's where all those labs in the Ukraine are about. They're collecting Russian DNA, they're collecting Chinese DNA. So we can target people by race. So still not great, but now you can hear.
Starting point is 01:14:33 It's not great. And probably, I think just micing the guy correctly would be useful. Oh, this was just a phone. Because there's still too much room ambience and echo. Well, it wasn't an interview. It was just a phone video. That's why. That's why it's so crappy.
Starting point is 01:14:49 But now we realize that it wasn't really about his so-called anti-Semitic comments. It's about the fact that we, the United States, and them, the Chinese, are creating ethnically targeted bioweapons. And he speaks of labs. And he speaks, you know, the Ukrainian labs all very annoying. So
Starting point is 01:15:07 they've moved the goals they've moved the conversation to he's a Jew hater. That's what they move, but the real conversation is what are we doing? What are we doing? What is everybody doing? You know, this is supposed to be
Starting point is 01:15:24 an international treaty. We don't do, we're not is supposed to be an international treaty we don't do we're not creating bio it's too dangerous what we're doing in fact it's against our own local laws that they had to move the thing offshore to the wuhan group now i have a series of bar of cake can i can i start with the with my vaccine what do you i have it vaccine? I have two sources, because he's become very interesting, this guy. I have a source. One is a piece from Hannity's town hall with him, and the other one is two shorter clips with the money honey, which are very fascinating.
Starting point is 01:16:01 My clips are all about the op. About the what? The op. Okay op okay well then let me roll this one out first this is from the town hall because it's about he's he's speaking sense that i was very confused by this okay before you okay i'm gonna kind of move ahead of you on that before you play that you should play this which is jen saki Psaki doing an RFK Jr. rap of every reason he's wrong about everything. Really makes you wonder what is it that Kennedy stands for that has the right so head over heels for him? Is it his years of work as an anti-vaccine advocate? His repeatedly debunked claim that vaccines cause autism?
Starting point is 01:16:43 His repeatedly debunked claim that vaccines cause autism? Is it his trafficking in a variety of COVID vaccine conspiracy theories, including ones involving microchips being inserted into all of our bodies? Are they fans of his recent comments that COVID was, quote, ethnically targeted to spare Chinese and Jewish people? Or is it his assertion that antidepressants like Prozac have caused the rise of school shootings in America? Obviously completely insane and not true. Or that Wi-Fi causes cancer and something called leaky brain, whatever that may be. Or is it his claim that chemicals in the water could be turning kids transgender? I couldn't even cover all of these outlandish crazy claims because we need to continue with our show. All right. There you go. I know why you did that well that's it that's it that is basically
Starting point is 01:17:31 is it because he listened to the no agenda show i mean that's basically what she said right there that is very thank you for doing that we never our show and nobody talks about the microchips. That's fringe. No, that's true. We don't talk about the microchips, nor does he as far as I know. I've never heard it. No. I think most of what she said is made up and part of the op.
Starting point is 01:17:56 But okay, now take your stuff and then I have more other stuff. I have the follow-ups. Okay. And I have my other clips are op clips too. So let's just reiterate. Let's just regroup here. The current thinking is, and we don't really know, but the current thinking is an intelligence agency is, and there's an obvious one, is running this and going to make him president. They're sick of the military industrial complex taking all the money sick
Starting point is 01:18:26 of being pushed around yeah this is the great reset this is the great reset bobby kennedy is junior is the great reset and they're sick of the pharmaceutical industry ruining everything because there'll be no one left to to spy on we'll all be dead and they're sick of uh of the biden crime family and i think that op is running reasonably well uh to get rid of him and the and the the theory is it would be biden exits either through um impeachment uh 25th amendment death sucked into an aircraft engine um and kamala becomes president for a few months that gives the party uh the democrats energy they want to keep the party going and then the only guy who will have a chance against trump would be um bobby the k did i summarize that correctly
Starting point is 01:19:20 there's missing pieces to your summary but i think that's that's the overall the overall look at it that's basically it so knowing that fox news is run by democrats and this town hall was held in new york and the enthusiasm of the crowd now was it across the board was it was it people who were agnostic or were they independents was it across the board? Was it was it people who were agnostic? Were they independents? Was it Democrats who were excited? I think you'll find most of them in New York or they found a whole bunch of undercover Republicans who like it. They were hooting and hollering. And one thing's for sure, they really buy into his version of what should have happened when this when covid hit. his version of what should have happened when this, when COVID hit. What would you have done differently and when? At what point? In other words, would you have allowed the experimental vaccine to be produced? Would it be only for older people? Would you have had mask mandates? Would you have any school shutdowns? You know, and if you took those policies on, do you not run the risk if there's
Starting point is 01:20:25 more human contact, a virus we didn't know a lot about early on, we still don't really even know enough of as far as I'm concerned, what would you have done differently? I would have done everything differently. I mean, number one, the first thing that they should have done is to use, you know, they use the internet in many, many ways, usually to censor doctors and physicians who are trying to say, hey, you know, I'm using a treatment, a protocol that actually works. I'm using therapeutics that work. Those people are silenced. We should have done the opposite.
Starting point is 01:20:57 We should have used the internet. We now have this extraordinary resource to link ourselves to the 15 million frontline physicians around the world and have them report what treatments were they using what was working we know now there were dozens and dozens of therapeutic drugs that were off-the-shelf drugs that obliterated you're talking about hcq are you notice notice uh hannity saying hcq because i guess he's not allowed to say hydroxychloroquine you know he has to kind of use code now now there were dozens and dozens of therapeutic drugs that were off-the-shelf drugs that obliterated you're talking about hcq
Starting point is 01:21:37 are you talking about ivermectin ivermectin hydroxychloroquine but many many many others. And then what? Listen, now, what kind of crowd is this? That can't be a bunch of Democrats who are applauding these alternative horse paste. Is that so? Is that Republicans? Are they there sitting? Or is this rent a crowd?
Starting point is 01:21:58 I mean, I'm confused. I think it's got to be rent a crowd. These are shills. And but many, many, many others. And then I think there's a list i think i think i've seen a list that pierre gory and and dr mcculloch i have published about about 20 different drugs that were just devastatingly effective against those but the the problem was not only did they not focus on those but they tried to prevent the public from getting access to them.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And the reason for that was because there's a little-known federal law that says you cannot give an emergency use authorization to a vaccine if an existing therapeutic drug that has been approved for any purpose proves to be effective against the target disease. So if they hadn't admitted that hydroxychloroquine, which they knew from day one, that it worked against COVID, they could not have killed their 88 billion. The hospital, after the fact,
Starting point is 01:22:58 came out and said that taken early, it mitigated symptoms. That's what I took out of that. And there were other studies that followed. I never saw one on ivermectin that showed it was effective. However, monoclonal antibodies seem to be a therapeutic that worked very well. I love how Hannity really ate the narrative. Like, oh, no, that's all debunked studies. It's no good.
Starting point is 01:23:22 And so here's Kennedy first speaking the the truth because that's exactly how it works you can't have a vaccine certainly not under emergency use authorization if there is a treatment for it so that's why these these treatments were basically deplatformed hannity is now saying well there's no no evidence of that but that... Which is just the opposite of the truth. We have documented on this show almost a thousand studies showing that ivermectin is very effective. And I have an ivermectin clip of Kennedy coming up where he outlines this himself. He's doing it now. I don't know how he...
Starting point is 01:24:00 I didn't see this, so I don't know how he handles Hannity. This is Hannity lying. Yes. Let's also back up, because I have listened to his radio show a lot. Because when I'm driving, if it's on, I listen. I'm sorry. He was a huge promoter of the monoclonal antibodies, which were then adapted in Florida. And then it turns out they stopped working with the first variation,
Starting point is 01:24:25 which was a problem. But he loves to pat himself on the back about these monoclonal antibodies. Well, as you'd expect, Bobby the K answers it correctly. I never saw one on ivermectin that showed it was effective. However, monoclonal antibodies seem to be a therapeutic that worked very well, but that was also experimental. Well, the thing is, you don't know about those studies because the press is not reporting them. But you go to Merrill Nass's website, Dr. Merrill Nass. Flaps, flaps.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Whoa, wait a minute. This is not okay. Wait a minute. This is not okay. John, John, I've got to stop it....terrorism, or Harvey Reich, who's one of the world's leading epidemiologists at Yale, and they have a list of 199 studies that show that ivermectin is, on average,
Starting point is 01:25:18 about 85% effective against serious disease. John, okay, this audience is not doing what they're supposed to. Get us out. Get us out. The show is the same about hydroxychloroquine. A lot of break. We'll come back. More about exclusive town hall.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for the hour. Of course. Go to commercial. This is funny. Well, since you played it, I think I should. He went on the hill on that show, The Rising. Well, since you played it, I think I should... This one, he went on the hill. Yeah. On that show, The Rising.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Yes, yes. And the girl, the woman there hates him. Well, she's black, so she hates him. No, no, no. Who's the... No, no, you're thinking of the old crew. Oh, the old hill, yeah. No, I don't know about the new hill.
Starting point is 01:26:00 No, the new hill's got some doofus and a black girl. And the black girl thinks he's a racist, let me guess. Well, she kind of does, but it's not where the clips head. This is a two-parter. It heads to the same discussion of ivermectin, where the guy gives another. I have no idea why this keeps cropping up. And Kennedy really does a good job of shutting him down. But since this is a two-parter, you've got to start with part one.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Blacks were dying in our country at a rate of 3,000 people per million population. In Haiti, which is a poor country, we were told the poor countries were going to be devastated. They had a 1%, about 1.3% vaccination rate. So almost nobody was vaccinated. And they were dying at a rate of 14 people per million population, so one-two-hundredth of our death rate. The same in Nigeria. The average in Africa was about 320 per million population. That's one-tenth of what we had here. So it's unclear.
Starting point is 01:26:54 These are all things that need to be studied. But I never believed that it was because the, you know, I think it's unlikely that it's because the virus is more virulent towards Africans. Could those discrepancies, those differences in the lethality of COVID be attributed to different ages of the population? I don't know exactly, but the average age in Haiti is probably younger than here and things like that. Yes, there are many, many other co-variables. And it's interesting. I mean, these are things that should be studied.
Starting point is 01:27:29 So I don't think you can make any conclusion from them. But, for example, Japan, which has the oldest population in the world, had a death rate about one-tenth of the United States. So, you know, these are things. NIH has a $42 billion annual budget. We ought to be looking at that and saying, why are some people surviving? One, is it because they took ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine in this country? What are the protocols?
Starting point is 01:27:54 What are the, you know, the other differences so that the next time we have a disease like this, that we actually have some knowledge about it? Just an observation before you go to the next clip. He's almost your age. He's 69, I think. And it's fun to see that no one, no one has a problem with him calling African-Americans blacks or the blacks, as you might say.
Starting point is 01:28:27 They're missing an opportunity to call him a racist. Well, I think since this is an op. They're not going to. Yes, there's a lot of. Hollywood has also not come out against him yet because of his wife. You know, there's all kinds of stuff that doesn't add up. His handler, you mean? His handler, yes. His handler, Cheryl.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Cheryl the handler uh so here we talk about the ivermectin again and this time he kind of this guy is just a stooge uh the guy from the hill when it comes to these things that we're gonna and it's almost again like it's a testing ground for how this is what you're going to be hearing how do you react to it? And I think this is one of his better reactions to it, much better than the Hannity one. The real questions that you'd want answered are not studied, and that is frustrating. Do you think there's, you know, they talk about hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. I looked at a lot of the studies.
Starting point is 01:29:21 It seems pretty mixed to me. I haven't seen a lot of compelling evidence that they did a lot of good. I've seen one argument that ivermectin, which can help you if you have a parasitic infection. Well, if you study the countries where that's more prevalent, where they did a lot of the ivermectin studies, there was a good outcome, but it wasn't because it was fighting COVID. It was making it easier for you to recover from COVID if you also had a parasitic infection at the same time. So I wonder if there's a skew on the slight positive. Have you heard this argument before?
Starting point is 01:29:52 It wouldn't be helping in the U.S. because there's not widespread parasitic infections. Yeah, I mean, I've looked very, very carefully at the studies. There's now, in fact, I just did an article this week. at the studies there's now in fact i just did an article this week there are now a hundred studies that show that ivermectin had profound benefits in generally speaking a 70 to 85 percent reduction in hospitalizations and deaths it was really a miracle drug particularly in the later pandemic if that was all in like bangladesh or south america it could be because that was all in like Bangladesh or South America, it could be because they were killing off parasites. It was all over the world. The countries where they used
Starting point is 01:30:29 it for parasites, Nigeria, which has the highest river blindness burden in the world, did have the lowest COVID death rate in the world. They also have the biggest malaria burden, so virtually the entire population is on hydroxychloroquine, and a large part of the population is on ivermectin for river blindness.
Starting point is 01:30:53 And they had almost no vaccination. They had, I think, something like 1.ar Pradesh, where Kerala used our protocol and had the same comparable death rates, and Uttar Pradesh used ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, and ended the pandemic overnight. a problem with this uh you know so obviously the the obvious thing to say would be well you know causation is not correlation you know just because could be other things maybe that's why the it targets black people uh heavily um but you could also that what he's also saying although he's not really pointing that out is that the countries where people didn't get vaccinated less people died so was it ivermectin or was it people getting killed from the vaccine yeah well there's that but then you that from i think he's also taking into account the pre-vaccine era okay which was a year yeah but that was a year of data yeah it was like flu flu level deaths well there was a year of data. Yeah, it was like flu-level deaths. Well, there was a lot of deaths in the first year in the nursing homes and places where they were placing these people.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Yeah, yeah, of course. But there was virtually no deaths in that one area of India where they were using ivermectin. We did this story. That's true. Where they used ivermectin and then someone came along and said, no, you can't use it. Take away the packs, the Z-packs, whatever they had. They took away those Z-packs or whatever they're called. And then the COVID cases jacked way up and the public demanded to get these things back.
Starting point is 01:32:35 And so they started using ivermectin again and it went away. And the one case that he cited, the whole area was free of it. All right, I'm going to withhold my clips. I want you to continue with your Bobby the Op. Well, the only one, I got two left, which is the Op, kind of more of the Op clip, which is the way I'm seeing the Op, is to equate Kennedy with Trump in his run-up and then start to pull out the pins, the underpinnings, that show that he's not the same as Trump. But to get the popularity up,
Starting point is 01:33:05 you have to make him Trump. Otherwise, why is he so popular? He's just another version of Trump. And so that will go on for another month or two. But I have clips to prove this. Okay. My Trump clips. And this is RFK compared to Trump.
Starting point is 01:33:28 And I believe this is on Fox. I think, but this is a rfk compared to trump and i believe this is on fox i i think but this clip one and here's how you know that rfk is getting under their skin the media is now comparing him to trump parallels between trump and bobby kennedy jr are kind of stunning they'll throw these grenades out and let them explode and then walk away and go, I didn't do anything. We have now opened this can of worms where kind of contrarian, eccentric candidates are running. And it was Donald Trump first in the Republican Party. And now we're seeing it in the Democratic Party. OK, yeah, that was Judge Jeanine. So definitely Fox. Now, it has the idea is to not only do the parallel at first, but this will also suck away certain discontented Trump voters.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Oh, he's kind of like Trump. And let me take a listen to what he has to say. that pisaki outlined inaccurately you start to see that he can take vote he's taking votes away from disgruntled trump supporters and there's plenty of those i have not wanted to enable all right good stop i'm sorry i should have set this up right so this is a continuation of the first clip of these different people on mNBC equating him with Trump. And this is, I saved this last one and put it aside. This is Larry O'Donnell, Lawrence O'Donnell, whatever he wants to call himself. He decides to do this kind of a bit where he doesn't say it, but he brings up something which I think in the op it's not allowed to happen. You're not supposed to talk about Kennedy's heroin addiction.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Right. That is a little, almost no one knows this. This is a no-no. Yeah. And so, so O'Donnell feels obliged to kind of at least suggest it. He doesn't say it, but he suggests it in a very awkward way. And I think he's going to get, if he's, and I believe he would be part of a giant op, will be reprimanded for this because
Starting point is 01:35:32 it's a little too close to home, but he never pulls it off. And I thought it was total chicken shit if he's going to pull something like this and not actually bring it out or say it. And nobody said it. Nobody's brought it up that Kennedy is a heroin addict. But listen to this. I have not wanted to enable his access to the drug addiction that he has never conquered. The drug addiction that has been with him for all of his adult life. The addiction to attention. Wow. the addiction to attention wow yeah yeah interesting okay that's what i thought well well i have two now so now two clips one where he excoriates the intelligence agencies in an
Starting point is 01:36:21 appropriate manner which is actually i've never really seen done before certainly not on a fox property although this is the the money honey on fox business so this is all dry run no one watches that yes dry run it's a dry run um and maria's great i mean maria's read in on it man you are bumping your mic like crazy i banged it with a glass full of water well stop it sorry uh tell me i did that you keep doing it um i don't keep doing it yeah it's it's the it's the stocking thing it's the it's the plop filter that's hitting your mic i'm telling you no it's not even near it at the moment. Okay. It's all right. You want to be a professional. So it's a dry run, but he is, he's, it's actually the best explanation under a minute of exactly what happened with the deplatforming of doctors and everybody else for any reason by the,
Starting point is 01:37:17 by all the agencies. The alarming thing that's come out in Judge Doty's decision, this is a federal district judge, just issued a 155-page decision forbidding the White House from having any contact with social media companies because it abused those contacts so badly over the past three years. What we now know is that the White House had deployed an army of federal agencies, including the CIA, the FBI, the DHS, Department of Homeland Security, the IRS, and many others, to threaten Facebook, Google, and Twitter with withdrawing their Section 230 immunity, which is an existential threat. Those companies cannot exist without that immunity. And they were told that if they did not censor the president's opponents, critics of these policies, that they would lose that immunity. Unbelievable. Maria, unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:38:21 That's a very clear explanation of what happened. I don't think I've heard anyone say it that clearly that they've threatened them with their and section 230 if you don't remember is the section in the communications law telecommunications law that says a platform um that hosts user generated content as i think that's what they called it when they wrote this, it was still called UGC, that you cannot be held liable for what someone says on the platform. Which, by the way, I'm now kind of thinking, we should just remove that.
Starting point is 01:38:55 That and taking away pharmaceutical commercials would solve a lot of problems in the world. Get rid of that immunity for them. lot of problems in the world get rid of that immunity for them now he mentioned cia fbi irs dhs did i miss one everybody wants to get in on the act if you can push people around to take to promote your messaging as opposed to theirs uh you would do it so why wouldn't you so yeah go ahead i should mention there was a law a case against uh one it was against google or somebody about it had to do with section 230 and i've always been a personally of the opinion that if you're a publisher you're a publisher and that's
Starting point is 01:39:38 what google well as they say google let's say twitter it's a publisher they're publishing this stuff and yes user generated but so is like the news stories in the New York Times. They're generated by reporters who are paid to write this stuff, but it's still kind of user-generated. And they also have letters of the editor, which are user-generated. And they feel obliged to edit these things. And so they, you know, to keep liability issues at bay. And I've always felt that this should be the same with these other guys. And so there's this case against one of them.
Starting point is 01:40:10 And it was, I wish I could remember the details because I called the attorneys and volunteered myself as an expert witness. Pick me, pick me. Well, I was a good, it was right up my alley yeah the case and i talked about this i said yeah it's a disaster you know this 230 i went on talk to this lawyer he says oh you got oh he said well we're not going to use you there's no way i he says because you think that 230 should be abolished and i and he says that we're making this lawsuit on the basis that it should be in play. And to this day, I can't figure out what their logic was in this case. Maybe money?
Starting point is 01:40:52 You think? There was that. There's always that. Okay, so now this next clip, I think, is an important one because this is either we have the wrong agency in mind for this op or it's a stress test. Because this comes right out of this after he's excoriated these agencies and now the money honey, who, by the way, during his answer is looking at her phone.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Very weird. She's looking because it's live. She's looking for the answer. They're on it. Yeah. And so this was the next question it was clearly the back and he is very rude when you're into the setting and they're both at a desk and you can see her looking at her phone you know just scrolling through or tapping some stuff all right so that's a text message in my mind you know guttfield guttfield does this on his show all the time. Yeah, he was doing it the other day.
Starting point is 01:41:46 He was going his back channeling somebody on his phone. Man, you what you listen to Hannity. You watch Gutfeld. I mean, dude, get some I do get some balance in your diet. I got balance. All right. Now listen to this. There is this network in place.
Starting point is 01:42:00 I mean, Trump calls it the swamp. Others call it, you know, just this network of establishment that is hard to get around. I've seen your comments about the CIA and the assassination of your uncle and father that they were involved. How do you get and break this enormous network? Well, you have to, I mean, you have to do it agency by agency because the fulcrum of the corruption of this corrupt merger of state and corporate power is happening within the agencies. And each of those agencies have different issues of the agency that have promoted and prompted the capture of those agencies by the industries they're supposed to regulate. of those agencies by the industries they're supposed to regulate. With the intelligence agencies in many of them, although not all of them, are now serving the purpose of enriching the military industrial complex and expanding its power for some military
Starting point is 01:42:55 contractors. My uncle recognized this, that the function of the CIA had devolved into providing the military industrial complex with a constant pipeline of new wars in order to enrich military contractors and expand the power of the intelligence apparatus. Unbelievable. Unbelievable again. This to me is very interesting, this answer. He is saying not all the intelligence agencies are bad and then goes on to say, but CIA, they all they do is provide a continuous pipeline of war. So the military industrial complex can enrich itself.
Starting point is 01:43:37 How do we analyze this misdirection? Straight up. You know, it can't obviously be an op when he's critical of the agency that we're accusing of running the op. I think it's gorgeous. I was very impressed by this whole sequence. And it went on for like eight minutes. I didn't clip anything else. Hey, look at him.
Starting point is 01:44:01 He's bitching and moaning about it. But the complaint was it was milk toasty, if you think about it. So what? That's the one thing they're going to stop doing, huh? They're going to stop creating a pipeline for the milk. Well, that's true. Hey, we create this pipeline and we get nothing from you guys. We got to smuggle drugs and arms and you guys just get it above board in the ndaa the thing is you get you make just as much money without having to manufacture anything if you're just the arms dealer yeah
Starting point is 01:44:33 yeah yeah hey 50 markup and with that i'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in the climate war please say hello to my friend on the other end ladies and gentlemen, Mr. John C. DeMora! Lay! In the morning to you, Mr. Adam Green. In the morning to all ships, sea boosters, and graphene, the air subs, and the water. And all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hold on. Stop. Wait. Don't move. Showdown. Hands up.
Starting point is 01:45:12 They're moving around 22 17 it's a blowout it's a troll that's a big number for thursday anything over 2000 is a big number it's a troll blowout today hello trolls good to have you here you are welcome into the uh into the donation segment of the show where we have a couple of special things today uh which includes uh our interview and our uh our uh our uh winning numbers for the lotto uh actually i got a i got a note from uh the producer adam mackler uh adam i enjoy your show occasionally and write to you rarely however hearing jcd's theory on the mpc tiktok streams being high-end number stations which you said then you're sticking to this theory that the lick lick ice cream, banana, whatever is high end number stations juxtaposed with your donation segment, wherein you read off amounts that people donate was just too ironic for me to let pass without comment.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Indeed, we are a number station. That's exactly what we are. We're handing out numbers. We've got trolls and perhaps agents, intelligence agents, sending out messages around the world through this show in the donation segment
Starting point is 01:46:30 in the form of numbers. You think about it, that's very, very possible. I'm blown away by your prowess, producer. So trolls are always collected. They are all together in the troll room. Now, you can listen along with them, troll along by going to trollroom.io. That's a web page, and you'll see a little login.
Starting point is 01:46:52 You can participate in the troll room and, of course, get No Agenda Stream, which you can also do at noagendastream.com, or get a modern podcast app. This is truly the way to go. You're going to want it because they're going to start deplatforming podcasts again across the board. The ones you like listening to will be taken off Apple. And when they get taken off Apple, they get taken off other apps that suck off the Appleteet. But if you've got a Podcasting 2.0 app, a modern one, you not only will not see your favorite podcasting platform, but there's 25 new features. 60 apps and services are available,
Starting point is 01:47:25 and you can find it at podcastapps.com, including the Troll Room and Livestream. It's all part of the new wave of podcasting, which is open. New wave. New wave, open and protected. You can also, and I think it's time to consider a purge of noagendasocial.com. We've got people who want to come into the system. We cap it at 10,000. We've got people who want to come into the system. We cap it at 10,000. I'm going to ask Aaroner if he would consider purging. So anyone who hasn't used their account for over a year will be purged,
Starting point is 01:47:56 and then we'll let some new people in. You can follow Adam at noagenthessocial.com. You can follow him from any Macedon account that believes in Freeze Peach. And John C. Dvorak atorek at no agenda social.com by the way i did uh i did an interview uh on the patriot hill country patriot radio uh the other day which is uh like everybody here in hill country listens to it it's i would say it's maga it's uh moms for liberty it's the tea party still exists out here and matt long who hosts this he says you know i really love dvorak he always sounds like he's two shots from being shit-faced and i thought
Starting point is 01:48:39 i thought why is that i don't know he says that's just what you sound like. I could not agree. It's kind of the voice I have. I could not agree. Oh, and before, so this is the donation segment. This is where you get all the special info. We had Nick and Suzanne over for dinner. Who? Suzanne Santo.
Starting point is 01:48:59 She's the songwriter who loves us, who was on Rogan talking about how much he loves us. And her husband, Nick, who created, wrote and produced the HBO hit series, true detective seasons one, two, and three. Very successful. That sounds like a winner. Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Very successful dinner. So he's the guy that told me that, you know, once they hit July, they were going to screw the writers. Remember this conversation? Yeah. So I said, well, what happened?
Starting point is 01:49:27 He said, well, we hit July, but then the actors went on strike. We had it all set up. And he says the industry currently does not think these strikes will be over until the new year. Until January 2024? Correct. And he says the streamers love it they they're just pushing their catalog uh they they don't really want to make any new stuff they don't have the money it's not well they got plenty of old stuff nobody watches so they can just repurpose it and he says their stock prices are going up because everyone knows that they're not going to be spending any money.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Their CapEx is going down. Stock price goes up. He says they're loving it. So there you go. What is his take on the whole thing? Does he think that the writers and actors have been suckered? I don't want to speak for him, but it sounds to me like he feels the writers are being completely unrealistic. So unrealistic. But again, I don't want to speak for him because industry people listen to this.
Starting point is 01:50:32 And I don't want people to think he's a douchebag because he's a really sweet guy. And man, they're like, oh, we want to live in Fredericksburg now. Where are they from? They live in Austin. Oh, they got to move out of Austin, for God's sake. Both of them escaped California to move to Austin when COVID hit. That's why, and that's where they met. Austin's become California.
Starting point is 01:50:54 It looks like San Francisco. Well, believe me, they're both seeing this. And they're like, now she's six months pregnant, so I don't know if she wants to move before they get him born. Well, apparently they were looking on Zillow all the way home. Anyway, Value for Value is the name of our game. That's how we can actually bring this information to you. If you think any of the things we said here today would be possible with sponsors, yeah,
Starting point is 01:51:23 we might be able to get squarespace maybe you know but i'm even doubtful of that because the things that topics we discuss are polarizing and and we don't sugarcoat it and we certainly don't self-censor the only way to do that is by having listener support and we don't have listeners either because we have producers that's how the model works we give you value six hours more than that per week that's a full season on netflix and amazon that's the type of entertainment and content we bring you which makes a lot of people feel relieved makes you feel safe makes you feel loved makes you feel like the world is not burning around you it spins you down in the spun-up world and all we ask for is that you return that value in whichever manner you can very few people do this very few people return value but the people
Starting point is 01:52:16 who do do it with time talent or treasure so we have all kinds of time and talent being applied it's really wonderful the servers the shops the shops, the jingles. I mean, just so many things are being created for us. It's the only way to make it work. When you hear a podcast, Spotify, by the way, is basically going out of business. Again, they lost a quarter billion dollars. Again, now we're going to raise the price.
Starting point is 01:52:45 That'll help. The record companies are about to, and the publishers are about to raise their rates on them again. They fired the whole podcast division. You can't monetize the network. It's a bad idea. All you need to do is ask people to return value. And you can't do it when you have hundreds of producers.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Oh man, there's this one lady producer and she's like i created the uh the harry and megan podcast it was me producers deserve the credit okay oh yeah i know it's really she's an ex-npr person so I understand what's coming from. Anyway, we just ask you to provide that value back and an easy way to do it, which everybody can do in any amount that shows your value is through treasure and is by going to devorec.org slash NA and keep us on the air. I mean, if we don't get value back, it ends eventually.
Starting point is 01:53:44 So we're very humbled that people have supported us once again but first we want to thank our artists and the artists deliver a very important service we um have some proof that having fresh art to promote every single new episode with is great it draws people in it reminds people what a great podcast this is even those who haven't read it in the in and the Durham report, because it says right there, we're the best podcast in the universe. So when you see the artwork from Sir Shug, a.k.a. Foe Diddley, people know that this show is switched on.
Starting point is 01:54:19 And this was for episode 1575, titled Number Station, appropriately. This was the Crunch cricket no agenda hot pocket and it was it was hard once again to choose from the variety that was given to us we like this it had the hot pocket logo with the no agenda uh uh branding in there it said media deconstruct a lot of small stuff but the stuff that was in there, crunchy cricket flavor made with 100%, 100% real crickets, eats a bug, saves the world, 33-pack. It had all the memes we're looking for.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Well, let's start with you not liking this piece. Correct. Yeah. Well, I liked other ones. I didn't like anything. And you preferred the No Agenda Jammed Drones piece. Wait a minute. I did?
Starting point is 01:55:12 Yeah, you did. You liked that piece. And I had to dissuade you by saying it was by Koob the Boob. By saying it was too it was too many. It was light. It was light. It wasn't jammed. Oh, yeah. Like a stamp. It was light. Where was the jammed? Oh, like a stamp. It looked like a postage stamp.
Starting point is 01:55:28 It's one of the types we go for a lot. We go for two things probably more than we should. One is that look, which is a stamp or a kind of a logo look. Challenge coin. And the other one is, as you said, with the No Agenda Crunchy Cricket one, oh, it's just another
Starting point is 01:55:44 package. Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Another package, yes. That's exactly what I said. But there's nothing that could top it was the problem. I did actually, for a moment there, consider Comixter Bloggers Scorched Earth. Yeah, you did, and that was going nowhere. Yeah, all the cocaine shark stuff was
Starting point is 01:56:05 that had no chance we're not going to promote shark week ever we're not ever that's yeah ever we're not promoting somebody else's product necessarily no no no unless it's to mock them yes yes um they so yeah now and i believe that believe that Sir Shug has actually produced several pieces of artwork, never been chosen. No, no. He's come close, I think. I'm reminded of the guy who puts in his first, this has happened maybe twice in 15 years, some newbie comes along, puts in his first piece of art, wins. Boom.
Starting point is 01:56:44 Right. Never shows up again. Well, that's possible, of course. That is possible. Well, we certainly appreciate you, Sir Shug, a.k.a. Foe Diddley. We appreciate the work of all the artists. They put their heart and soul into it. You can see it.
Starting point is 01:57:02 But we're going to be honest. That's the one thing. That's some value you get, even if you're see it. And, you know, but we're going to be honest. That's the one thing, that's some value you get, even if you're not chosen. In addition, Dreb Scott, who does the chapters, if you're using a modern podcast app, which you can see rotate right in your dashboard,
Starting point is 01:57:14 if you're using the app in the car, he uses a lot of these pieces of art. And it's very funny to see them pop up in conjunction with topics as we're talking about them. Thank you all very much. You can go to noagendaartgenerator.com as always. You can participate.
Starting point is 01:57:27 You can be an artist. You can upload it. It's that simple. Now for the treasure. We're going to thank some executive and associate executive producers. These are real credits. They are valid anywhere that credits are accepted. These days, you can put it on your LinkedIn.
Starting point is 01:57:43 You can use it on your IMDb. You can start an IMDb with it. You can become a member of the producer union. are accepted these days you can put on your linkedin you can use it on your imdb you can start an imdb with you can become a member of the producer union it's not free but you can say here's my credit let me in and we start with a fan favorite once a month he comes in speaking of number stations it is the one and only sironymous of dog patch and lower slobovia, location unknown, vocation unknown, and reason for numbers donated unknown. But man, does he come in and save the month, 2033. And I'm sure there were some $2 bills in there. Yes, as a matter of fact, there were four of them.
Starting point is 01:58:20 And he believes in $2 bills as a messaging system, I guess. And he always sends a note, which we're happy to read. And this is sent through the mail, always from a different mailbox, and typed on, is this printed? Do you think this is a printed? It's printed, yeah. Oh, so we should be able to track that printer with a hidden code. Could be.
Starting point is 01:58:42 Thank you to all the producers for their hard work. Your media deconstruction and analysis is outstanding. I'm mailing my donation between travel demands. And yes, people, everyone's an expert at something. Email us if you've got something to say about something you know something about. John, arranged marriages are not because of people being lazy it has always been to maintain wealth power and bloodline daughters have been married to trees so the sons got larger shares of land and to avoid family bloodshed well this is a history lesson families that insist on pedigrees
Starting point is 01:59:20 for dogs or horses will do no less for their children to assure their future grandchildren maintain their wealth power and bloodline bloodline separately i wanted to share a nephew's claim of being lgbtq using his definition let's go by the quran okay we know something about seronymous. After intense political criticism on the selected removal of adult body parts prescribed as a punishment for theft, please deconstruct the politically supported selected removal of children's body parts by adults as moral high ground. Oh, always with a brain twister in there, seronymous. Rationals such as emotional distress by children should be compared to thieves often mental illness or steal or starve situation wow deep deep something yeah seronymous thank you
Starting point is 02:00:18 this is one of the few notes where he doesn't put nj nk for some reason ha and more code i don't know we're onward from uh seronymous to janice hall thank you seronymous and she's in secto otherwise known as sacramento today i mail an envelope off to the best damn podcast in the universe which contain this note a check for one thousand dollars and a dime baggie containing 35 cents dime baggie 33 cents is for you know why and the last two pennies are for the pod father's coin jar thank you my donation last year for episode 1451 of one thousand dollar requested no knighting or anything. This year, however, I'd like to request a seat at the round table to be knighted as the Baroness of the Rustling Forests. I'd love to have prime rib, a baked potato and a nice glass of red wine while dining after I'm knighted.
Starting point is 02:01:22 John C. Love hearing your new musical instruments while listening to the live show. They keep the show lighthearted while listening to serious subjects. Podfather. Yes. No worries over the sound of your voice using your new temporary choppers.
Starting point is 02:01:42 You sound marvelous as usual. Thank you. Please offer everyone in the Gitmo Nation a double up karma. We all need it this year. John Adam, very best to you and your family's love is light. Janice. Double up karma by request. You've got
Starting point is 02:02:00 double up karma. Now people, please, please, please respect your fellow producers your notes are becoming long again i'm gonna have to start editing on the fly i don't like doing that you should edit the way we edit jennifer wilson is in calgary alberta Scandinavia, $500, executive producer. Hi, John, Adam. Okay, you both really know how to make a girl feel ungrateful. Jeez, I haven't felt that guilty even after a bad date.
Starting point is 02:02:37 I was punched in the mouth on a road trip to the Coutts border with my boss in support of the truckers blockade. I guess he was sick of me chatting the whole way, so he asked, have you heard of this show, No Agenda? I didn't want to admit that I'd never listened to a podcast before. You guys had me laughing all the way home to Calgary, and now I listen to every show, sometimes even twice. I'm only asking for a 95% de-douching because I did donate last year for Adam's birthday. You've been de-
Starting point is 02:03:04 There you go, 95%. Last year for Adam's birthday. You've been. There you go. 95%. I was hoping the same would come up in the newsletter for JCD. Hell, maybe it did. And I was so busy with tax season. I may have missed it. I listened to every show faithfully, usually in the mornings in the car. My son thinks I'm crazy when I jump in your conversation and make my own comments or just start laughing so hard listening to the banter between the two of you.
Starting point is 02:03:23 I'm quietly cheering John on when he is right. Yeah. Well, you know, women like you better. That's been established. First, oh, I have two comments because I know John doesn't like long notes. This is the middle of an extremely long note. First, I know COVID is pretty much over. However, the prior NA shows pertaining to Alberta has the highest unknown deaths in Canada.
Starting point is 02:03:49 It's very close to home. Your June 11th show was the one-year anniversary of my dad's sudden passing. I believe it had to do with taking three killer shots, and I saw it as a no-agenda sign to donate in his honor. I failed mainly because I just couldn't find the words to thank both of you for getting me through the past year. I really do hope the two of you have some sense of importance to a very large number of people. Keep nagging the listeners.
Starting point is 02:04:14 It will pay off. We're not nagging. We're just being transparently honest. Second, John, I crack up with every donation segment when you must list the city and towns. I just can't take it anymore. The city in British Columbia is Nanaimo. Nanaimo.
Starting point is 02:04:31 Cheers, fellas. I greatly appreciate what you do. Jennifer Wilson. Thank you, Jennifer. Well, I pronounce it Nanaimo. It's Nanaimo. Yeah, well, where is she? Where is she located? In Alberta. Well, that's nowhere near Nanaimo. Yeah, well, where is she? Where is she located? In Alberta. Well, that's nowhere near
Starting point is 02:04:48 Nanaimo. I live within driving distance to this little town, which is north of Victoria, Canada, on the island. And as far as I know, everybody there pronounces it Nanaimo. Okay, well, stop making, why argue with the customer? Well, I i'm just saying because that's what we do is the answer that's your no agenda show that's my answer yeah vert fuller or wert in batavia new york 4 15 96 and he wrote i sent a check-in and wrote a little cute little note on a cute little piece of paper with a butterfly on it oh how, how cute. Again, I am sending you my state license plate, which is 41596. I like this idea. It's a great idea.
Starting point is 02:05:34 There must be more New Yorkers with a license plate that ends in N-A. Oh, it says 41596 N-A. Well, that means, yeah, there's got to be thousands of them yep and there's got to be many who are listeners of the podcast hoping so hoping so i challenge them to send the dollar value of their license plate for the good of the show i like this challenge it's a good one this should make me a knight but what's more important is you're here for me twice a week with love and uh is he on the knighting list i don't know um he or she wort i think wort is wort yeah or w-i-r-t could be a she but it's handwriting looks
Starting point is 02:06:23 handwriting looks like a she, to be honest. A little bit. Wirt is not on the list. Oh, good. So what do I do here? Wirt Fuller? Put her on the list. Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:34 Him or her? Oh, well, that's okay. We can't put him or her on the list. No, then we need to get information, man. New information needs to be coming to light. Yeah, so we'll do it next show. Next show. I'm up. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:06:51 We have Troy Peterson, Battlefield Missouri, 380.08 in the morning, gents, halfway to nighthood. I love you guys, and thank you for the best podcast in the universe. 380.08 is boob augmentation. Thank you. I best podcast in the universe. 380.08 is boob augmentation. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:07:08 I think they missed the mark. Yeah, they did. Nathan Trawick in San Antonio, Texas. 3-4-5-4-3. A jingle. All he's got is a jingle request. Trump, I'm coming. Whole load. Obama, no. four, three. A jingle. So all he's got is a jingle request. Trump, I'm coming.
Starting point is 02:07:25 Whole load. Obama, no. And hot pockets. That's it? Oh, that's it. That's it.
Starting point is 02:07:33 Oh, no. Oh, yes. Okay. Well, I can do that. I'm going to come.
Starting point is 02:07:38 Also goat karma. See, you screwed me up. You're right. I'm going to give you the whole load today i've been watching you you've got karma you've got karma somewhat lewd
Starting point is 02:08:09 it's it's not a it's not like it's something new you know not like it's new but okay uh where's my ticket to the bank here we go go. Brian Wolf. Thank you. Please do this while I line him up. Yeah, he's in Dix Hills, New York. And he gave $333.34. Got an extra penny there. This is the third consecutive donation. It breaks me to $1,000. Nice. And I couldn't be more excited.
Starting point is 02:08:38 I will be switching now to a monthly donation to help keep the support coming. Please knight me, Sir Wolfpack Ultra. And you're on the list. Can I get a shut up already? It's science, which is the oldie. Obama, take that to the bank. Lone wolf. And R2-D2, Carmen, thank you for your courage.
Starting point is 02:08:58 Shut up already. It's science. You can take that to the bank. You've got... karma. 333 from Ryan George. And 33 cents, our favorite. He'd like to make a switcheroo donation
Starting point is 02:09:17 for his smoking hot girlfriend, Danielle Doherty. Your wish is my command. Danielle will get the credit for this, no problem. She said Horowitz takes too many days off. Donate to no agenda. Your wish is my command. Danielle will get the credit for this. No problem. She said Horowitz takes too many days off. Donate to no agenda. I'm looking. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 02:09:34 That's a switcheroo. That's a switcheroo. Can I have a boom shakalaka? Sorry, Andrew, she says. Boom shakalaka. Boom shakalaka. He says, I should say. Okay, Danielle. Danielle.
Starting point is 02:09:43 I wouldn't worry about it. He doesn't listen to the show. He does, too. say. Okay, Danielle. Danielle. I wouldn't worry about it. He doesn't listen to the show. He does, too. He listens all the time. Jeff Green does, for sure, because he gave us 33333s in Sweetwater, Texas. And he wrote another note on a piece of paper. He wrote it by hand. Executive producer Jeff Green, Sweetwater.
Starting point is 02:10:02 I miss Adam's quote. Adam reads his Facebook comments. By the way, guess who else misses that? Me. Adam, please find an equivalent bit. I've been a douchebag since show one. Wow. I felt sad imagining life without no agenda.
Starting point is 02:10:27 There you go. Y'all the best please dedouche me you've been dedouched and he wants these clips please don't eat me bojiden which is what it really is trump they took dumps and lady that's true love jeff is it is it the boja well? Well, because there are two. There's the Bojai. Oh, there is an Eat Me Bojai, Joe Biden, but they play that one. Sorry. Yeah, well, now I want to kind of play both of them. Why not? Here we go. Don't eat me,
Starting point is 02:10:56 Bojai, and you're scary. So scary. Don't eat me, Joe Biden. They did dumps. They call them dumps. They call them dumps. Big, massive dumps. That's true. There you go.
Starting point is 02:11:08 There you go. Beautiful little sequence. Is there a karma there at the end? Well, there is now. You've got karma. Notes are long, people. I'm just saying. That was actually a short note.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Kelly Allison is not short. short no that's what you in the morning this is 269 associate executive producer cassius king for now and my husband and i are big proponents of using it everywhere and often one one uh okay i i i should probably discuss this. So a box comes in the mail with a couple of cans of soda, which one of them sounds terrific, rose-flavored sparkling water, and a pile of ones, $1 bills, a pile. A pile. Like 200 of them. Like a dump, like big dumps. like a big giant dump and fives and i'm thinking is this a stripper that is sending this money and her name is kelly allison which is kind of provocative name i have no idea but she's mimi does the same thing and She's not a stripper.
Starting point is 02:12:28 When she sees one, she puts them in a pile of ones. And so there's this huge, it's like people who save their change in a giant bottle. So that's what happened here. Maybe it's her husband's stripper cash, you know, that he was going to use. They'd keep it. Well, he was going to use it. Put it in one of those guns.
Starting point is 02:12:42 He was going to use it. All right. You can one of those guns. He was going to use it. All right. You can continue reading. Okay. One of our favorite ways to save money is to squirrel away one and five dollar bills at the end of each day into a giant mason jar. This is not a bad idea. Every six weeks or so, I pull out the cash, sort and stash. You'd be surprised at how quickly it adds up.
Starting point is 02:13:02 And most of the time, you don't even miss the money. You'd be surprised at how quickly it adds up, and most of the time, you don't even miss the money. Rather than adding this latest something to our little nest egg, I have decided to send it to you guys instead. I could have deposited the money and donated via PayPal, but where's the fun in that? No jingles, just a jobs comment from my husband. And if John could say, I've got hairy legs, that would be great. Thank you for your courage. Kelly allison conquered north carolina i got hairy legs jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs all right onward with sir ever of the Watt, our buddy. Comes in with 23456, one of our favorite donations from Linwood, Michigan,
Starting point is 02:13:51 and has probably the best note of the day. I think so, too. And he says, hi. And hi back to you. Amy Dunn, Greensboro, Georgia. 233.95 in the morning. Thanks for making the propaganda news digestible with a hilarious twist dame cc hit me in the mouth in early 2020 this show has saved my sanity
Starting point is 02:14:12 because i felt lonely in my thinking during the scandemic before becoming a faithful listener you get a lot of notes like this greatly appreciate your deconstruction of the media spokesholes and smear their bull crap all over television. I refuse to be programmed. I was a total douchebag for the first two years, so I felt the call to make up for it when it hit me how much value I received from this show. I'm in at 2K plus since October last year, so I might be a double dame. Well, a double dame is a baronetis. No, is that, what is, what is two?
Starting point is 02:14:45 Yeah, baronetis, I'm pretty sure. Is that a thing? Anyway, hopefully I'm officially de-douched. You've been de-douched. And I've made good for my many months of mooching off other producers. It makes you feel good, doesn't it? I wish now to be referred to as Dame Ams. Ams?
Starting point is 02:15:04 Double M? Ams? i hope that's right dame ams of lake county country and will probably take my seat at the round table protein chic shakes and spanish octopus for all okay and then she says i need to lay off the martinis uh jingles obviously drunk 100 freaking percent karma for all no agenda slaves love is lit 100 freaking percent you've got karma sir ramsey kane our buddy in brookfield wisconsin oh yeah good two three four five six he's the one i used to distribute cd no agenda cds Remember those? I still have them. I still find them all over the place.
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Starting point is 02:18:35 Associate Executive Producer. In the morning, Gitmo Nation has been a bit since my last donation. I hope it can be forgiven. I was slightly dying. No, what kind of excuse is that? Had a minor bout. Yikes. I was slightly dying. No, what kind of excuse is that? Had a minor bout. Yikes.
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Starting point is 02:20:48 and run a search jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs you've got karma and our final associate executive producer but where we actually read a note um comes from sir fur and sir fur had a very interesting little note he says in the morning John and Adam please credit the associate executive producership to Mr. Dana Brunetti governor of El Dorado he's our big Hollywood bigwig up there these switcheroo donations will continue until John gets a bit part well this is interesting for the subtext of the fact that Brunetti hates the idea of being an associate executive producer. I think that's why. To such an extreme.
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Starting point is 02:22:34 slash n a the credits are real thank you very much for supporting no agenda show best podcast in the universe our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth it's the climate monster knocking is that what's going on that's my guess i I have some TikTok clips. Wait, don't we do ISOs? Don't we do a second segment of donations? Oh, no, I'm confused, yes. You got TikTok.
Starting point is 02:23:13 What am I talking about? Let's go straight to the good stuff. To the TikTok, you don't stop. To the TikTok, you don't stop. Talk, TikTok. All righty then. Yeah. All righty then. Yeah. All right, here's, I've got four,
Starting point is 02:23:29 I think three of these are really good. Is the sound okay? Because sometimes the sound is so bad. No, there was one with bad sound and I ran it through Adobe and it cleaned up like a champ. Okay. In fact, I'll play that one right off the bat
Starting point is 02:23:42 because we talked about Summer Camp earlier. Mm-hmm. I didn't know this, but i know sorry sorry sorry that there's queer summer camps okay so a big if not the biggest question that we've been getting is how do you become a counselor at a queer summer camp the easy answer is there's an application that goes online in like april and and then they interview you and then you get hired what i think is important to note is that I swear it was harder to get hired here than it was to get into grad school. Not only did we have to like build and design unique and original workshop content, I'm doing three on blackout poetry, flash fiction, and trans masculinity. Campers get here this afternoon, but I've been here for three days. We've had anti-racism and anti-bias training and mental health training, neurodiversity training, way more than I've ever done for public education.
Starting point is 02:24:27 Because we take the health, safety, and growth of these kids very seriously. I'm surrounded by some of the most capable people I've ever met. We're here to support future queer leaders, and they need guidance that knows what they're doing. Will I be in drag for a significant portion of the week? Also, yes. Wow. So do we know the location of said queer camp? That sounds like an interesting little place to visit. I don't know the location, but I'm sure a deep search will find it. And there's probably more than one.
Starting point is 02:24:58 And I'm guessing they're in New York. I'd like to point out that, you know, netherlands was one of the first real i mean with berlin but amsterdam certainly one of the first uh cities that that regularly did pride parade which uh was first it was pride then it was gay pride and this year they have changed it from a parade to not just one week, but to two weeks of pride. And it's no longer called gay pride. It's called queer and pride. Listen to this capture. And this is the slogan.
Starting point is 02:25:41 This is the slogan. Trans lives, lesbian lives, gay lives, refugee lives, Muslim lives, disabled lives all matter. I'd say that this has gone a little bit beyond. They've shot past the mark on this. Hey, you just keep when you're shooting past the mark and nobody cares. You just keep doing it. Now, here is a queer character telling cis. It starts off, if you are cis, that would be you and me. Yes.
Starting point is 02:26:18 No, I reject any categorization, but okay. Well, okay, I agree with that. But it's directed at what this person perceives as anything but him or her uh and what you should be doing for this person if you're cis i want you to message the trans person in your life and ask them what is one thing that you can do to lighten their load this week. Whether that be grocery shopping, folding laundry, doing dishes. Ask the trans people in your life if there's a task or something that you can offer them to help with the burden that we're carrying.
Starting point is 02:26:57 Because we're having to deal with all of this stuff right now. While having to deal with all of the life stuff that we regularly deal with. And the regular life stuff that we deal with is life stuff. And then there's transphobia and living as a trans person in the world. And then there's what's going on right now, which is all of that combined. And then send that trans person $5 so they can get themselves a treat. A treat? A treat.
Starting point is 02:27:24 A treat. Well, this started with send a black person money. That's what this started with. Well, it's a good bit if you want to solicit random money from people that don't know who you are. Okay, so that was that guy. Now I have... Now you're playing these clips for what reason? Just to set me up?
Starting point is 02:27:44 Yeah, it's a setup. Okay. No, it's just to get these out of my... Now I have... Now you're playing these clips for what reason? Just to set me up? Yes, to set up. Okay. No, it's just to get these out of my... I'm getting sick of these clips. That's why. Okay. Now here's a person describing and then somebody suffering from.
Starting point is 02:27:56 This one is an absolute killer. Wing dysphoria. Hi, my name is King and I'm a non-human alter in a DID system and I'm making a Discord server for people who experience wingysphoria. and who get the phantom wings. I know we are all familiar with the feeling of needing to stretch our wings and not being able to, but is it as common of an experience to feel like you have water on your wings, like feel like your wings got wet, and you need to fluff them up and shake the water out,
Starting point is 02:28:38 and you can't, and it's frustrating? Wow, man, I'm actually more on board with the wing dysphoria than than anything else i mean yeah i i can i can feel you with your wings yeah that doesn't seem weird no that doesn't seem weird oh brother um okay i got one i'll do one more okay and this has got nothing to do with queers or wing dysphoria or if you're cis this is just some self-absorbed woman who is a dick bitching about the fact that people shush her i guess when she's at the movie theater because she likes to yak during the movie so no one else can hear the damn movie.
Starting point is 02:29:27 We need to talk about this. I'm about to go to a movie and it made me think like, people say, oh, if you want to talk during a movie, you shouldn't go to the cinema. Lies. If you don't want to hear people talking during a movie, you shouldn't go to the cinema
Starting point is 02:29:40 because like, isn't the whole thing about watching something with other people in the same room to like experience it together and laugh and scream and have full-on analysis about the characters like while you're watching it if you want to sit in silence like a fucking stone just go home like and yeah sorry i'm that person i that person. Take me to fucking jail. I'm going to be disrespectful every time because I will say things. I will say things during the movie.
Starting point is 02:30:10 I will say a lot of things during the movie. Yum, yum, yum, that's me. And that's just what it should be like. I feel like we should change the culture around going and seeing a movie. It should always be chitty-chatty in the cinema. That's just my opinion. Man, why do you torture yourself watching this stuff?
Starting point is 02:30:28 I really don't understand it. I mean, and you get all pissed off about it, and then you torture us with it. This is not fun. Don't do this. Stop this. This is good material. This is not good. These are people.
Starting point is 02:30:40 These are real people out there in the public roaming around. You're walking right by one right now if you're listening to this thing on a on a headphone i'm telling you it's it's it's depressing and now it's time for our trans malice agenda update self-destruct initiated all right how about that huh you like that i'm bad yeah we're good i have a different version so that's the woman tell me if you like this one. Transmalice agenda update. Self-destruct initiated. So we have that one. Then we have a more traditional kind.
Starting point is 02:31:11 Now it's time for our transmalice agenda update. Self-destruct initiated. And then this has to be my favorite. Now it's time for our transmalice agenda update. Self-destruct initiated. Which one do you like the best? Number three. The DJ voice?
Starting point is 02:31:31 Yeah. Well, sorry. I don't agree. Anyway, it is time for... Play what you want. Why are you even asking me? Because I want you to feel loved. So, you know, I have to go see this barbie movie now
Starting point is 02:31:47 because i'm getting all kinds of notes from people that it's not uh part of the trans maoist agenda in fact it seems to be anti that so i i i'm very confused by the notes you were sending me it seems to be polarizing people can't quite um get a handle on uh well it just there's no agreement even amongst our producers which i find is interesting well then you're going to have to be the arbiter of the movie yes i will yes uh correct and i'm very sad to hear this because that means i have to go see this movie i will not go see oppenheimer though i'm not going to see that's too long i don't have time for that too long who has time. Who has time for it? Alright, now I do have a trans Maoist update because
Starting point is 02:32:28 all of the stuff you're hearing in John's TikTok clips stems from a, not just national but an international debate about medically transitioning children. Non-adults.
Starting point is 02:32:44 And in the United States, many states have made laws and say, no, you can't do that. And some have been overturned. Anti-trans! Yes, it's genocidal, of course. And CBS, Face the Nation, had a rare moment of having an anti-trans and a pro-trans person on, if you want to categorize it that way. But again, it's about administering drugs and surgical procedure to young people. And the question is,
Starting point is 02:33:12 is the science settled on this? I think that's probably the best thing we can discuss at this point. And how bad is it? How many people need this? Why is this happening? What's going on? What is going on um and this was fascinating they had on governor spencer cox he is from uh goodness where is he from i want to say i can't remember what state it comes up in the interview and he is uh he wants his state as restricting gender-affirming care, which is how they categorize it, or i.e. administering testosterone or estrogen puberty blockers to either young boys or young men because a therapist has told them that they are probably the opposite gender and they're confused. And here's his take on it. I want to ask you again on the topic related to kids. There are 18 different states that have now enacted laws that restrict in some way access to gender transition care for kids. Just love the gender transition care for kids. I mean, it's almost a bumper sticker.
Starting point is 02:34:16 In Utah, you have said that you are just pausing access to that kind of care. You're not banning it. Do you have an end date to that pause? What specifically is the kind of data and research you need to see to say you will allow for it? Yeah, so we don't have an end date, but we do need more data and more information. And the legislature has been clear on that. Ultimately, the legislature would have to run a bill to unpause that, depending on what that data comes back. I've been very vocal about this. This is such a charged topic that it's been impossible, I believe, to get good information here in the United States right now, because half the country doesn't want to touch it, and the other half is convinced that they already know the answer. And so I've really tried to look elsewhere at conversations that are happening in other countries, specifically in Europe, around this, where it's not quite as charged.
Starting point is 02:35:25 and the UK, other countries where they don't have the same culture war battles that we're having here, where it's, you know, it's either too political or, you know, you can't say anything about it, to see what they're finding out. And they're also pushing pause. I mean, many of those countries are saying, look, we're... A specific part of it. Is it hormone treatment puberty blockers surgery all of all of the above and i'm very happy that um that cbs had this uh this governor on because that is correct that is the truth the truth is going of course they put him first don't worry the fun is coming uh now let's talk about and again he speaks truth about the uh organizations are driving this, not the pause, but driving the transition. The American Medical Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Academy of Pediatrics have said this kind of care, that they've rejected the claims, that it is harmful. Yeah, all very political groups.
Starting point is 02:36:20 I believe that they are politicized. Those groups are politicized. I don't believe. The American Academy of Pediatrics. I absolutely do. Yes, yes. On this issue, it's impossible to get unbiased information out of the United States right now on this issue. I just don't believe it. So that's why I've been looking elsewhere and looking at scientists elsewhere who've said, look, yeah, we have some old data. This is based on a Dutch study many, many years ago. Looks absolutely nothing like what we're seeing today. And we have not looked at the long-term impacts of these hormone blockers. We have not looked at the long-term impacts of these surgeries. And we don't have enough data to support moving forward right now. So that's what we're asking for. So we're working on the University of Utah and other organizations out there that will be compiling research that's being done all across the world, looking at the very best and latest data.
Starting point is 02:37:14 We'll present that to the legislature, and then they'll make the decision going forward. I'm glad that someone is doing this. I mean, he's speaking truth. There are no long-term studies. It's all from research based on 2019. And it's just ghoulish what is being done without any long-term. Forget the reason why. And these politicized organizations.
Starting point is 02:37:35 Just because you have American pediatrics doesn't mean that you're speaking truth or basing it on science. But it's happening so just on the numbers of 73 million children in the u.s there were just 56 genital surgeries related to dysphoria between 2019 and 2021 according to the study by komodo health and reuters you have the numbers on uh on on hormone therapy and and and in those puberty blockers in the past year. What is the number? They're exploding. We went from like 10 years ago to several hundred this past year. I mean, those numbers, and again, this is in Utah alone. Why do you think it's happening in Utah like that? It's happening everywhere, and that's what people are trying to figure out.
Starting point is 02:38:21 Absolutely, yeah. And you don't know what's driving it. Well, that's what these scientists in other countries are actually trying to figure out where in, in the United States, we're putting our head in the sand and saying, we're not even going to talk about this or look about this. You can't even have a discussion about it. In other countries, they're saying something is happening. Again, going back to this Dutch study, there were a few people, mostly males transitioning. They didn't have any other mental health issues at the time. What we're seeing now is hundreds, thousands, again, hundreds in my state, thousands all across the country that are making requests for this. And they're presenting with several other mental
Starting point is 02:38:57 health issues as well. So again, totally different than the study that all of this is based on. And this is the question. This is what we're trying to figure out. Why are we seeing this explosion in so many countries, and really developed countries? We're not seeing this in undeveloped countries. Why are we seeing this tremendous increase? What is it that's driving it?
Starting point is 02:39:22 Is it gender dysphoria? Is it something else? Is it a mental health issue? Is it some sort of social media trend that is driving some, not all? What is it that's led to this moment in time where we are seeing this explosion? The data is hard. I mean, the numbers we saw, the trend is definitely up, but they're still pretty small in terms of surgeries and mastectomies. Only in terms of surgeries. The other data, and you can look anywhere, this is not unique. Yes, there aren't a lot of surgeries happening, but the trend, it's not just up, it's up exponentially. It's a hockey stick increase.
Starting point is 02:40:03 It's still a small percentage though um but but i hear your point i'm wanting hold on a second yeah i you know there's a thing about um it's in sales that you run into this a lot where you you kind of mimic the person that's talking to you in such a way that you develop a rapport yeah Yeah, mirroring. Mirroring. This guy is such a stammerer and stutterer. She starts to stutter. That she is doing it. Yeah. He does have the data, though.
Starting point is 02:40:33 He is not a good representative for this side of the argument. I think he's put there on purpose because of that. Interesting point. Okay. There are better speakers on this topic than him. Well, they brought in exactly the right person to speak on the other side of the argument uh marcy bowers we've heard from marcy bowers before marcy is a gynecologist surgeon who specializes in gender confirming surgeries
Starting point is 02:40:59 viewed as an innovator in gender confirmation and affirmation surgery and is also the first transgender woman to perform such surgeries so she's not only the president she's a client was that hair club for men yeah and uh she's going to refute all of this uh with i think very flimsy arguments we're joined now by dr Dr. Marcy Bowers. She is a surgeon and one of the nation's leading experts on gender-affirming health care, also the president of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which sets global standards for care for doctors in the field. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Margaret, for having me. Can you back it up? I want to get the name of that organization.
Starting point is 02:41:41 Thank you, Margaret, for having me. Can you back it up? I want to get the name of that organization. Being healthcare, also the president of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which sets global standards for care for doctors in the field. Did you get it? Kind of. Thank you for being here. Thank you, Margaret, for having me. You've heard our guests talk about transgender issues in the political sense. We've now seen 21 different states pass laws restricting access.
Starting point is 02:42:12 And so I want to understand a little bit more about what that access actually looks like. Stop a second. The use of the term restricting access is a loaded is it's a loaded term it's not what she should be saying um it's like restricting access to guns yes exactly it's the same language of course interesting okay well i mean she's the media the media is pushing this the media is yeah it's pushing it on people who are jacked up on ssris it's obvious by the way i should mention there's a very interesting article in vogue this month titled what happened to the male orgasm men young men men are so jacked up on antidepressants they can't orgasm as we
Starting point is 02:43:00 just get it well no they can get it up but they can't orgasm this is a known side effect which is not mentioned in the commercials by the way you know the governor of utah was here and said there's an explosion in his state of interest are you seeing that as a doctor yes i mean there has been an increase in demand for services but keep in mind services and uh trans identities have been with us since the antiquities. I mean, the time of the Bible and literature and art history. I mean, there's examples of people throughout. So experts feel that the incidence has actually never changed.
Starting point is 02:43:38 But what we are seeing is more people feeling comfortable coming out. And so that explains the rise. So she, he, the doctor is saying, it's been around forever. It's in the Bible. Please, I'd like to know where. And it's since antiquity. So since forever, there have been trans people.
Starting point is 02:43:56 I'm sure that's probably true, but it's not that people are psyoped or drugged out and convinced to do this by therapists, typically young people know, is because we're more free. We can come out now. We can say it. There's more people who are not afraid to say it. So there's a spectrum here, though, from identity all the way to surgery. So how common is it with surgery for someone under the age of 18 to be able to access it. Access.
Starting point is 02:44:25 Surgery really is not done under the age of 18, except in severe cases. This is bullshit. It's total horseshit. And even except in severe cases. What is that? Do you have to be, what is that? What is a severe case? I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:44:40 It's bullshit. The funny thing is this came up at the dinner table. This is a meme that is out there and everyone believes it. Even though there's example after example. In fact, there's a recent case that's just cropped up where somebody's suing the doctors. For a million dollars. For a million dollars. Which is low.
Starting point is 02:44:58 Yeah, that's just the start. Oh, yeah. The gun to the head is coming. Surgery really is not done under the age of 18, except in severe cases, usually top surgery for transmasculine persons. And even that is rare. I think the estimates are something like 57 surgeries
Starting point is 02:45:15 under the age of 18 were done for trans individuals. Okay, well, isn't that amazing? I know 5% of them. Me. If it's really truly 57 i know of five percent of these top surgeries that took place so this has to be inaccurate you know two or three you know two or three i sure do i sure do yeah 15 year olds by the way fifth must have been severe cases all severe cases yeah majority of people though that, that do identify as TGD or transgender diverse.
Starting point is 02:45:48 Ooh, TGD. Transgender diverse. A new one. Don't access even medicine or surgery. It's just a feeling of maleness and femaleness that differs from their birth assigned gender. And gender identity being diverse has lots of inputs. The birth assigned gender. And gender identity being diverse has lots of inputs. The birth assigned gender. I have to read you this quick note from Sir Tinley.
Starting point is 02:46:14 And my friend and his wife went to an ultrasound appointment. I figured Gitmo Nation would get a kick out of this. In his words, we went, had our 20 week ultrasound today. And at the end, the lady was filling out the info boxes, and when the sex box came up, she said they don't fill that out anymore. She was told to skip that field. My friend sat there telling himself not to say anything, but he couldn't keep his mouth shut.
Starting point is 02:46:35 He continued, you don't check the male or female box, and she said, we used to, but we were told not to anymore. I'm not sure why, though. How about that? So that's your your yes you left out the part where she did it in a bombay accent yes i didn't want to get all racial but yes well i'm just saying entity being diverse has lots of inputs not just hormones not just chromosomes not assigned uh gender but uh but a variety of inputs, and that reflects the numbers. But they're low, and they'll always be low. The current estimates are about 0.6% of the population, which is about 1.6 million people. It might be as high as 2 or 3%, but it'll never be much
Starting point is 02:47:22 more than that. The majority of people still identify and are very comfortable with their binary assignments. But this is a vulnerable population that deserves health care. Okay. That's 50. Go ahead. It's 50, almost 50x. Yeah. Jesus, it's just 0.06, but it could be 2% bull crap.
Starting point is 02:47:49 So it deserves healthcare. There are other treatments as well, hormone therapies and the like. A lot of these laws that are recently becoming or taking hold are aimed at this young segment of the population. How much research is there into the effects of puberty blockers and hormone treatments of people in this age group? Right. Well, we have decades of experience with trans treatment overall. What?
Starting point is 02:48:15 And that shows unequivocally that treatment is beneficial. But in this age group... Hold on. Stop. It's a lie. It's a lie. No, she's changed the conditions of the conditions of the question. Oh, OK. She asked specifically about young people getting all these puberty blockers and the woman, a woman guy. I don't know what this person is a day.
Starting point is 02:48:37 Them switch the conditions of the question to discuss what's been going on for decades with trans people, not with kids. Ah, good catch. We'll listen again. So it deserves healthcare. There are other treatments as well, hormone therapies and the like. A lot of these laws that are recently becoming or taking hold are aimed at this young segment of the population. How much research is there into the effects of puberty blockers and hormone treatments of people in this age group? Right. Well, we have decades of experience with trans treatment overall, and that shows unequivocally that treatment is beneficial. But in this age group, we've only been treating with hormone blockers, which is the point of real controversy that people are after since the late 2000s. Also, not really true.
Starting point is 02:49:32 It's 2019 is where this really started, right after COVID, when doctors were afraid to talk about ivermectin and were told not to. And now the therapists are told, no, this is what you got to prescribe. There's got to be diagnosis and a prescription of something. This is an untruthful person. But in that time, there has been research, especially from groups in the Netherlands. Yes, which I've read in English and in the Netherlandish. But increasingly here as well, and experience with this, and the results are similar. as well and experience with this and this the results are similar we're seeing uh certainly very high levels of satisfaction improve self-esteem reduce suicidality reduce suicidality
Starting point is 02:50:12 so uh so they seem similar to what we've we've already witnessed in adult populations but the controversy is that i think people feel like this number is increasing and it's going to like envelop their children and and spread like a contagion, which is just really a false narrative. And so now two kickers. So now she's going to say, oh, well, you know, we didn't really mean to say that. This is not it. This was phony, fake. now now cbs does something good um you know there has been controversy regarding your particular group which set some of these parameters because they removed age guidelines from the surgery recommendations why did you take the
Starting point is 02:51:00 age guidelines out well the point of that is that first of all the what was uh leaked apparently was the the draft guidelines which we were oh it was a draft guideline that got leaked apparently no you're ghoulish person going to consider younger uh age groupings but but uh the important point is that but that's not important right now. Care is individualized, and so age isn't really the issue. Generally, it's adulthood, except in severe cases. I want to know what severe cases are now. Again, a draft guideline means it gets input from around the world with available science that provides input and consensus. So this is what the WPATH standards of care are all about. They're consensus and science-based guidelines.
Starting point is 02:51:52 And I want to add, though, that some people say the science is settled. I never say the science is settled. I really feel like science is always evolving. Medicine is always looking for new input and new data. But what we see is promising. And again, this very small subset of the population is worthy of that care, and it seems to be beneficial. Now, did I just hear at the end here that, okay, yeah, you caught us. It was, you know, we really want to do it on young people.
Starting point is 02:52:22 But it seems to be good. The data's promising. Are they still experimenting with their decades of experience? That's what I hear. $72 million a person. Yeah, but it's $7 million over the lifetime. Final clip about the political aspect,
Starting point is 02:52:38 which of course is why this is in legislation and why we have parties battling over this for the Trans-Maoist society. One of the things that we heard on this program from the governor of Utah was that he felt that some of the organizations, like even the American Academy of Pediatrics, were too political on this issue. What science are you looking at where you think the politics aren't interfering? Well, I mean, you know, what the critics are looking for is what they call level one evidence. Now, level one evidence would require a systematic review of all randomized controlled studies in this area. And if you look anywhere else in medicine, about half of what we now accept as routine treatment in any field is not guided by level one evidence.
Starting point is 02:53:32 Level one, take, for example, cancer treatment or cleft palate surgery, diabetes care. None of those have level one evidence because to do so, you would have to introduce a placebo, in other words, a non-treatment to that group. But can you imagine offering someone who has cancer non-treatment? You're saying it would be unethical. There's a different benchmark you're saying is being applied here. Doctor, thank you for your explanations. I thought that was fascinating.
Starting point is 02:54:02 So basically, just like COVID vaccines and all vaccines, no placebo trial, because could you imagine how horrible if you got the placebo during a trial? And there's no placebo trials with cancer or cleft palate surgery? Why did she bring that? So is there any level one evidence being presented or studied for anything in modern medicine? It doesn't sound like it. Even weight loss surgery or weight loss drugs like Ozempic, no. They just don't do it anymore. People were under attack from the pharmaceutical industry. Well, this is kind of interesting that this is continuing.
Starting point is 02:54:56 It's going to be, I don't know where it's going to peak. It's got to peak. It's going to have peak trans, peak queer. Yeah, you have the answer. When these poor kids start shooting doctors in the answer. You queer. Yeah. You have the answer. When these, when these, when the, yeah,
Starting point is 02:55:06 when these poor kids start shooting doctors in the head. Well, that's, yeah, that could be years. We have the first lawsuits. That's just the beginning. I think it's much closer than,
Starting point is 02:55:18 uh, than we realize this is coming to maybe I sure hope so. It's definitely the age group that, especially the younger kids, that have a violent streak. We've already seen the violent streak from that crazy boy-turned-girl or girl-turned-boy or whatever it was. Or girl-turned-boy, which I think is the more dangerous one. In Nashville. You give a bunch of testosterone to some poor female who's not used to it. Next thing you know, she's shooting up a school.
Starting point is 02:55:51 Yes. Anyway. Man. So Cincinnati quarterback Joe Burrow down. Yes. Looks like he was running a play and lost his right leg it wasn't from the shot I think
Starting point is 02:56:08 just briefly I need to do something on Africa because it's really heating up in Africa and we have I mean it's just okay let me I don't know what to do I have Africa boots on the ground
Starting point is 02:56:24 should we take our final break and do some Africa stuff because I think it's really important Let me, I don't know what to do. I have Africa boots on the ground, which I should, should we take our final break and then, and do some Africa stuff? Because I think it's really important. Because that's where all. I think Africa's important too, so let's do it. Okay. I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Starting point is 02:56:37 Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda. In the morning. yeah that'd be fun and in fact we do have more than a few people to thank for show 15 76 i think yeah 1576 uh starting with tom starkweather in stafford virginia dad's got a birthday for his dad. He's got a 74th birthday coming up. $148 from him. Sir Silent Niskayuna.
Starting point is 02:57:12 Niskayuna. I don't know. I would never. I don't have a clue. New York. $133. And he's a de-douching. Joke out.
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Starting point is 02:58:34 Kevin McLaughlin, again, keeping up to pace with these two donations, a 68008 plus 6006. And this was a Jade Dew melon donation. Though small boobs. Jade Dew is another literal melon. And I've had those. They're pretty good. Actually, the other ones are too.
Starting point is 02:58:54 I think the Tuscan melon is my favorite. Ah, you just love melons. Well, Tuscans in particular. Chad Larson, White Bear Lake, Minnesota. 6006 needs a de-douche. You've been de-douched. Joey in the Woods in Middleton, Connecticut wishes her husband a happy birthday and a de-douching. You've been de-douched.
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Starting point is 03:00:37 He's got a 40th birthday. Good for him. Baronet Sir Michael Anthony, $50.40. Sir Brian with a Y in Aurora, California, $50.01. 40 cents. Sir Brian with a Y in Aurora, California, $50.01. Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa, $50.01. And the following people are $50 donors. Charles Boyd in San Marcos, Texas. Andrew Butterfield in Bettendorf, Iowa. Samuel Canarday in North Riverside, Illinois. Brian illinois brian hummel in wimberley texas simon aronowitz aronowitz in north wembley middlesex uk he time was he needs a dedouching you've been dedouched diego lopez crane in ithaca new york kevin sullivan in Wallingford, Connecticut. Maribeth Mallett in Spokane Valley, Washington, 50.
Starting point is 03:01:31 Daniel First in Kakowana, Wisconsin. Kakona, Washington. John Walter in Wenatchee, Washington. I'm sorry, Kakona's in Wisconsin. John Walter's in Wenatchee, Wisconsin. Washington. John Walter in Wenatchee, Washington. I'm sorry, Coccona's in Wisconsin. John Walter's in Wenatchee, Wisconsin. Washington. Amy Grohl in Burey in Washington, right by the airport. The TACT Squad in Columbus, Georgia. Carl Vogler in Dillon Beach, California. Elise Grosso, two donations. One's for James O. Miller in Blairsville, Georgia. James O. Miller also there. A lot of 50s today. Forrest Scott Brinkley in Christianburg, Virginia. Shauna Norberg in Seattle, Washington. Scott McCarty in Lodi, California. Jack Schofield in Yankee Town, Florida. Douglas Ellis in New York City. Martin Heidstek in Deventer, New Holland.
Starting point is 03:02:31 Daventer. Daventer. He needs something here. Jobscrow. We'll give you that at the end there, Martin. We got you right. We got some donors from Holland because of your podcast. Told you.
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Starting point is 03:03:03 Okay. David Asari, West Hollywood, California. Brian Emmenheiser in Lancaster, California. everybody out and he's the guy from patriot f the one guy okay david is sorry west hollywood california brian m and heiser in lancaster california richard sir richard gardner uh parts unknown on this spreadsheet aaron weisgerber in bend oregon sunny paying in uh uk wow the big list yeah michael elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina. Greg Hartlob in Cincinnati, Ohio. John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado. 50.
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Starting point is 03:07:35 The list grows longer. People understand how important it is to have connection in this crazy world because it does offer protection. And here's an example of what a meetup sounds like. This was the Sugar Hill meetup. Sir, Compost Heap here with the Cocaine Crusader Sugar Hill, Georgia meetup. Love you, John and Adam.
Starting point is 03:07:54 However, we just want to say that we are a little bit concerned about the psyops that you are running, considering that we have not yet experienced an interview in part of the first break of your show. In the morning, this is Carrie. We are on the hunt for the owner of the cocaine baggie, but we have zero clues. Hi, guys. This is Janet.
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Starting point is 03:08:34 Go to a meetup like we have going on right now. The North Georgia monthly meetup. Actually, that kicks off at six o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia. The Three Mile High Roundabout Tornado Watch Party. That'll be in Denver City Park, Denver, Colorado, 6.30 today. On Saturday, the Local 305 International Brotherhood of Mouth Hitters. They will get together at the Versailles Restaurant in Miami, Florida.
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Starting point is 03:11:05 no agenda meetups.com. It's easy and it's always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be. Triggered or held to blame. You want to be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Mmm
Starting point is 03:11:31 Do you have any good ISOs? Cause I have a crap I have a couple I don't know if they're good I think I only have one crappy one Let me play it Let me see I don't think it's any good
Starting point is 03:11:40 Here it is No labels has no agenda I don't like it I'm sorry No good You're right What do you have? Well I've got So cute any good uh here it is no labels has no agenda i don't like it i'm sorry that's no good no right what do you have well i've got so cute oh that might be good it was so cute okay okay and internet god the internet is just like a crazy mess right now i'm not crazy about either one of them i wasn't i figured you'd be loaded up after being
Starting point is 03:12:07 i think we should do so cute it was so cute so cute so cute so cute it's good all right all right africa because it's important to get this in because that's the new territory and i'm just looking at ukraine and the port of odessa keeps getting bombed, they say, by Russia, which I think is true because from our analysis, I have a feeling that the weapons are just, they're just all being shipped down from Odessa down to Africa under the guise of, it's grain, just grain. That would be the only reason. And it makes sense.
Starting point is 03:12:43 Yes. And so Russia now is uh putin's putin specifically has kind of done a check move i don't know if it's checkmate but he's saying don't worry about it don't we don't have a grain deal you're not going to get that grain from ukraine no ukraine grain don't worry about we're going to take care of you. Vladimir Putin says Russia will provide free grain to six African nations in the coming months. The Russian president made the promise during a summit with African leaders in St. Petersburg. Moscow recently withdrew from a Black Sea deal that had allowed Ukraine to export much needed supplies to the continent.
Starting point is 03:13:20 Russia's decision has pushed up global grain prices again and further threatened food security in parts of Africa. Speaking at the summit, Putin said his country would compensate for the lack of grain making its way to Africa. Our country is ready to make up for the Ukrainian grain, both on commercial basis and free of charge, to those countries in Africa that are in dire need, especially since we expect a record high harvest this year. As for the specific details, I should like to say that in the near months, three, four months, we would be ready to provide to Burkina Faso, Zimbabwe, Mali, Somalia, the Central African Republic, and Eritrea, who will be ready to supply 25,000, 50,000 tons of grain to each,
Starting point is 03:14:20 will ensure free shipping of this cargo. Free shipping! He's like Amazon. He's an Amazon of grain. Free shipping. Free shipping. free shipping he's like amazon he's an amazon of grain free shipping free shipping so that's an interesting move now it's not all the african countries that have issues with food but we got a note from one of our producers and this is a boots on the ground that blew me away i just want to read it because this will give you a much better idea of what is happening in Africa and why we need to keep our eye on it.
Starting point is 03:14:49 This is from Captain Redbeard of the Space Coast. Your recent coverage of the activity in Africa caught my attention as I've spent a significant amount of time there in support of certain three-letter agencies. By the way, we have the best producers in the universe. My most relevant trip was actually in 2008-2009. One of my many tasks was to collect on-the-ground intelligence information regarding smuggling routes between Djibouti and Khartoum. At the time, Khartoum kind of in the news. At the time, Sudan was a single country. In 2011,
Starting point is 03:15:23 South Sudan became an independent country with the support of Uncle Sam. We remember it well. So apparently the intel collection worked. Those pesky Muslims in Khartoum wouldn't allow the West to stage any goods or services in their country, so we just made another one that would support us. Needless to say, Sudan via Uganda has been in play for a long time. Uganda. Isn't that interesting that we know from the international arms dealer that the United Nations is accepting military aircraft and probably other weapons down there,
Starting point is 03:15:54 sold through international arms dealers? This effort wouldn't have been possible without the support of Uganda. The West has pumped so much money and goods into Uganda during Yoweri Museveni's reign, they are completely dependent on the handouts and will do whatever we tell them. There are many interesting correlations between Uganda and Ukraine. If you're looking for a blueprint for upcoming activities in Central Africa, for example, the presidents of both countries have suspended elections and made themselves de facto dictators with the support of the West. Museveni is currently the president of Uganda for life. He came to power during a bloody uprising or coup,
Starting point is 03:16:30 but then again, that's how most African leaders come to power. Another interesting comparison is the East African Federation and the European Union. When the global war on terrorism started, the West was keen to recruit Uganda, already part of the eaf to do their bidding in somalia another west clark seven this seems eerily similar to what is happening with ukraine build up a stooge to fight our proxy war similar to poland in the eu i believe uganda would be the staging ground for any major military activities in Central Africa. My first trip to Africa was as a member of the Combined Joint Task Force Horn of Africa, CJTF HOA.
Starting point is 03:17:13 What started as a small base in Djibouti to fight in Somalia has now turned into AFRICOM, Africa Command, with headquarters in Germany. with headquarters in Germany. A CJTF doesn't rate a whole lot of dollars in the defense budget, but a major combatant command like AFRICOM can carry a huge purse. This buildup has been slow and quiet. Very interesting PSYOP rabbit hole to go down is the Joseph Kony 2012 saga.
Starting point is 03:17:39 Boy, do we remember that one, John? Oh, yeah. When there was a video all of a sudden with 100 million views overnight on youtube which no one deemed possible it wasn't it was a scam joseph coney is a brutal warlord whose main business is raising villages and creating child soldiers however it's my personal belief he's a sigh up by the ugandan government against their own people to continue their own version of the military industrial complex we were fighting joseph coney and the lord's resistance army back in the early 2000s
Starting point is 03:18:10 and now i wonder if that was all in support of the sudanese civil war and splitting up that country there's another matter of chinese intelligence on the dark continent but i'm saving that for my next email thank you for your courage captain red beard of the space coast so makes total sense and this is well proxy war against russia and china and everything we can do well we're keeping busy did you have something else you wanted to say yeah i wanted to bring in this as you brought up the ukraine and being some sort of parallel what what do you think the deal is with this? It has not been played up by anyone, including the BBC. Zelenskyy fires the UK ambassador. Tensions rise as Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, discharges the country's ambassador to Britain. This is days
Starting point is 03:18:58 after the representative publicly criticized the president. The sudden dismissal of ambassador Vadim Prosteyko also removed him as Ukraine's representative to the International Maritime Organization. But Zelensky didn't provide a specific reason for the decision. The dispute emerged when Prosteyko was questioned about remarks made by the outgoing British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace, urging Kiev to display more gratitude for foreign weapons assistance in countering Russia's occupying forces. In response, Zelensky said, we could get up in the morning and express our words of gratitude to the minister. Prostako told Sky News in a recent interview that the Ukrainian president's remarks contained a touch of sarcasm.
Starting point is 03:19:39 As of now, there is no official word on Prostako's replacement. What do you think it is? Well, I think it has to do with somebody not playing ball. It was our doing to get rid of this guy. I'm convinced of it. Who else would be behind it? Zelensky doesn't care of anybody.
Starting point is 03:19:57 He's heard these complaints before that he doesn't thank everybody enough. He doesn't necessarily fire him. I guess it wasn't a firing. You can't fire that that position you just can roust them you know out i have i have one last clip that may shed some light on where this whole thing ends as we are on the was it the 70th anniversary of armistice with north korea i think it's something like that. Yeah, there's a North Korean thing going on. That's actually kind of interesting because, you know, the North Korean war never ended.
Starting point is 03:20:30 It's just armistice. No, it's still going on, literally. In essence, it's still in play. And what do we have between North and South Korea? A demilitarized zone? Yes. And I think this is really going to be the final solution. There will be an armistice between Russia and Ukraine with a demilitarized zone, which is an obvious no-go zone.
Starting point is 03:20:55 So we've just been hearing there, we're talking about huge stretches of land here. How challenging is it going to be to demine all of it? Well, yes, I to some estimates, you know, this, you know, the mine area consists of 160,000 square kilometers, which is nearly half the size of the country of Germany. And I just heard recently the figure of almost 750 years that's been cited that it would take to fully demine the area the size of Ukraine. This is unlike anything that the world has dealt with since World War II. And mind you, Ukraine up until now had been dealing with demining the leftover from both World Wars I and II. Imagine, it's taken decades and decades to deal with that,
Starting point is 03:21:47 and now with this really hot warfare, the largest land-based war that Europe has had since World War II, the amount of work to be done once the war is over is staggering, and the war is actually far from over yeah the war will never be over it'll just be armistice and no one will be able to go between those two areas because it's just filled with mines and cluster bombs and unexploded shells and it's it's a hellscape yeah what do you think i like it the hellscape. Yeah. What do you think? I like it. The hellscape or the... No, I like the thesis.
Starting point is 03:22:29 Okay. Because there doesn't seem to be any way out of this thing except for that thesis. And that did work before with North Korea. And it's great for the military-industrial complex. You get to keep everybody scared that Russia will do it again. And we need to move to Africa, people. We've got to get to Africa. Time to pick up and move on.
Starting point is 03:22:49 Exactly. At least that's what the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group recommends. Coming up next on No Agenda Stream, we have the complex candor with Sam and Vox. And we have some short little end of show mix here. We've got Clip Custodian, Neil Jones,
Starting point is 03:23:06 with a boob summer mix. We've got Dee's Last with Matty J. Nice little ditty. And a Wall Street earnings season's end-of-show mix from Tom Stark, where they're all about AI, AI, AI, AI, AI. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, here in FEMA Region No. 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry.
Starting point is 03:23:27 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain. And the weather's nice. It's nice. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Sunday. Please join us then and enjoy your meetups. And remember us at dvorak.org slash N-A, noagendashow.net. Until then, adios, mofos. A-hooey, hooey, and such.
Starting point is 03:23:55 Boobs. That is too hot. Boobs. I think they're fantastic. Boobs. I think they're fantastic. Boobs. Ooga. Boobs. I think they're fantastic.
Starting point is 03:24:21 Boobs. You all know Harari, where he writes writes he wrote a book called homo deus where he's talking about how to make men gods i mean like the whole idea is just so out of this world the things that they are experimenting with and want to do in in reintroducing kind of that that eugenics movement listening to rfk on le, I felt a bond to a story of addiction and drugs. Your word is bond. Backsliding is what I'm not hiding. Trying to avoid or prevent, sort of like a zone defense. Tamping too is what I meant.
Starting point is 03:24:58 How do you cement a strong legacy? Huh, I guess we'll see. Insincere and dishonest, M5M Tom about Robert Kennedy Referring to him as Bobby K Bobby the Q, RFK Jew Yeah, chicken made in aluminum That is not a tumor A lawyer too
Starting point is 03:25:16 Now they calling him anti-vax I mean the humor Podcast president The everyman they can't resist But resist we much Al Sharpton who wasn't too sharp with the tongue And hard to trust A public speaker and a preacher
Starting point is 03:25:34 Who used to run, I mean not a race But huh, I think the teleprompter won No agenda, put your money where your mouth is Don't penny pinch your treasure Or be so selfish Did you get some value meaningful to you? Just put it in a number Keep trolling, but don't be rude, my dude
Starting point is 03:25:51 AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI No longer something confined to R&D labs And garage-based startups I've heard that some people think Robots are mean, Terminator-like machines. And then we have people like, well, Elon Musk, who said, we're very close to
Starting point is 03:26:11 cutting-edge AI. We should advise you, however, that our preliminary findings indicate that your on-board 9-0-0 computer is in error. Identify malfunction immediately. On to Bishop 4. Once there is superintelligence, the fate of humanity may depend
Starting point is 03:26:27 on what the superintelligence does. That's amazing coding. I was listening to a podcast hosted by Adam Curry and John C. DeVore. Artificial intelligence will give us new jobs. Jobs. Jobs. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, It's going to be all right again. Something happening over here.
Starting point is 03:26:51 Whoa. It's likely rather to swoosh right by. Hello, computer. Like, if then, go to. Yeah, if then, if. I hope the two of you are not concerned about this. Ah! The best podcast in the universe! Mopo. Dvorak.org Slash N-A
Starting point is 03:27:21 It was so cute.

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