No Agenda - 1592 - "Vermox"

Episode Date: September 21, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Well, now it turns out to be a complete hoax. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Thursday, September 21st, 2023. This is your award-winning Gilmore Nation media assassination episode 1592. This is no agenda. Hitting the magic number on the nose and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6. In the morning, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody's rooting for a Tamafuji. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Let me guess. A Tamafuji is a sumo wrestler. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:00:40 He's leading the September tournament. Oh. Oh. With one, two, three matches to go, I think. Oh, I'm so excited for you. For you. You should be more excited for him. He's like, this is an up-and-comer.
Starting point is 00:00:54 He's like 21, young kid. It's like his second big match ever. He's like 6'2", 400 good good he's really good at it sounds like a winner this kid i think he's going to be a yakazuna a yakazuna well while we uh await his yakazuna-ness it finally happened we finally hit the magic number well the clock is ticking on house speaker kevin mccarthy the republican leader is in a Well, the clock is ticking on House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. The Republican leader is in a race against the clock to find a deal to avoid another government shutdown. All of this as a new report claims It's the magic number.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Didn't we just hit 31 trillion like two months ago? Or am I mistaken? I think 33 was the number two months ago. Because I remember us bringing this up once before. No, I thought it was 32 because it went from 31. Then they... It tends to go from... It tends to move around.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Lower numbers to higher numbers. It's never gone the other way. It's not going to go to 34, then back to 33. Wait, here it is. New York Times. New York Times says it. September 18th, U.S. national debt tops $33 trillion for the first time. So if it's in New York Times, it must be true.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Oh, yeah, it has to be true. It has to be true has to be true man there are so many people acting today or this past week everyone acting out on the stage everyone great actors from our ukrainian friend to oh man we had so many so many congress people doing i mean it was like it was beautiful show c-SPAN was the place to be. Who cares about a writer's strike? There was so much beautiful acting going on. I loved it. All kinds of distractions.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Phenomenal stuff. Does Zelensky ever show up in Ukraine anymore? You know, we've got to talk about his outfit. Hat in hand, floating around. I guess floating around now he's with the i guess today or yesterday he's with the u.s senate all the whole senate and he's you know no today focus today and then you know federman's out there they've made exceptions so he could go and run the senate with in shorts and he said that he'll wear a suit if the republicans get on board with the war in ukraine so you know that you must be very serious this is what i mean this is what i mean it's all this
Starting point is 00:03:32 acting going on but let's talk about zelensky's outfit because i watched him at the united nations man what a what a bunch of jamokes that is over there. Oh, man, warmongers, climate change, we're boiling. No, stop. We're all going to die. Don't forget, whoever they are, they're all excellencies. Oh, yeah. Yes. How does that work?
Starting point is 00:03:55 His Excellency Joe Biden. What is this excellency bull crap? They call everybody who comes up to speak his excellency. I'm going to call you. We should call each other. other said your excellency i was thinking about it calling you his excellency adam curry yes his excellency his excellency the honorable john charles dvorak the floor is yours your excellency now i think it's today today he comes by cbs had a report ukraine's president is set to visit washington today asking for more help in the fight against russia with a government shutdown looming it could be a tough sell tough sell dang has the latest from the white house we just good morning i love
Starting point is 00:04:36 that at least they're admitting it's a sales job and he just for a second Everybody is in suit and tie, and everyone's got their garb on, got their flowing gowns and the whole thing. The African delegation, they've got their hats. People got their turbans. Everyone is decked out. And Zelensky comes in this olive drab short-sleeved shirt with military dudes all around him. Can we stop with this? Can we get some new wardrobe in here? It's a costume.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It is a total costume. He's an actor. It's a costume. Good morning to you, Anne-Marie, and good morning to everybody. President Biden and Zelensky, as you know, were just at the United Nations making their plea to more than 140 world leaders,
Starting point is 00:05:25 but your absolute excellencies. Say it right, lady. Right. Today could be even tougher because some Republicans have already come out to say that they are not prepared to support Ukraine further, that they believe it is time for the U.S. to stop shelling out cash. President Biden has asked for another $24 billion. $24 billion. $24 billion. How about fixing some potholes?
Starting point is 00:05:50 But this is part, this is all part of the script to get everybody all concentrated on this. Oh, like you. How about fixing some potholes? And military aid. That's on top of the $113 billion that the U.S. has already spent. Now, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has said that he thinks this should be a standalone debate because as of right now, it is weaved into that government shutdown money that you are referring to, which is called a CR, a continuing resolution to keep the government funded after the end of this month because the money is running out. And so right now, you know, whether there are enough votes in the House is the big question. We do know that Democrats and even Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell have been
Starting point is 00:06:37 very vocal about continuing the aid for Ukraine, as well as most other Senate Republicans. But if you don't have the numbers, you don't have the numbers. Of course, it will be very different to have Zelensky making that plea in person. You mean His Excellency Zelensky? Why will that be any different other than, oh, look, the actors come to our theater. It's all so lame. And social media is just pumped full with everybody's got an opinion. Iran, Paul, although I agree with them.
Starting point is 00:07:08 We can't have this. We can't. Our American cities are falling apart. And then Lindsey Graham's out there like, well, if we stop, if we don't fund Ukraine, then there'll be more wars everywhere. I think it's in this clip. You almost broke into a Lindsey Graham sound. I'm getting close close i think he might
Starting point is 00:07:25 be getting there he might be in this clip if you allow ukraine to be carved up oh yeah carved up carved up this is a new one what do you mean carved up hold on a second who's ever talked about being carved up does that mean well it's been floated around he's in a newsletter it's been floating around that pol wants the Western part. Yes. And Poland is like, hey, we're not going to we're not going to give any more weapons to Ukraine. We're not accepting any grain. Why don't you go pound sand, Ukraine? That's what. Yeah. You know, Poland carving up the West, Russia carving up the East and Biden saying it on stage carved up is the independence of any nation secure the united states together with our allies and partners around the world will continue to stand
Starting point is 00:08:11 with the brave people of ukraine as they defend their sovereignty and territorial integrity and their freedom it's not territorial integrity integrity territorial integrity so what one of the things i found interesting about that speech, Weijia, is I felt Was that he was completely incoherent and stumbling and bumbling? Was they going to say that there, CBS? So one of the things I found interesting about that speech, Weijia, is I felt like he was echoing the most recent
Starting point is 00:08:36 messaging that we've been hearing from Volodymyr Zelensky, which is essentially if Ukraine falls... Gee, what a coincidence. Our president is essentially echoing what the actor from Ukraine says. I wonder why. Russia is not going to stop there. If you don't want to get involved in this conflict, trust me, if Ukraine goes away, it'll be World War Three. You will be involved. Yeah. There are a lot of lawmakers that are a little concerned about the
Starting point is 00:09:03 amount of spending, whether or not this is good money thrown after bad, whether this war can be won by Ukraine. What do Zelensky and President Biden need to do to convince reluctant lawmakers to vote in favor of more aid? Good question. What do they have to do? Put on a little play? Put on a little play. Anne-Marie, I think it is going to be tough. So perhaps Congress won't approve that big $24 billion figure. It's also hard to imagine them not approving anything, right? Because there are some Republicans who are saying, look, if we turn our backs on Ukraine now, why would any country trust us in the future? So it's not only about the ongoing war,
Starting point is 00:09:45 but it's about America's standing with the rest of the world. Our standing. Wait, no one's going to trust us what? That we'll be suckers to be soaked for billions? Oh, but we're so trustworthy to start with. Going war. But it's about America's standing
Starting point is 00:10:00 with the rest of the world. Yeah, and Americans, of course, overwhelmingly American voters, still support Ukraine in this war. And that's something I'm sure all the politicians are thinking of the world. Overwhelmingly, American voters still support Ukraine in this war. That's something I'm sure all the politicians are thinking as well. Oh, really? Is that overwhelmingly so? I don't think so, Ms. CBS lady. But CBS,
Starting point is 00:10:15 it's all set up because just now support is waning. They have somehow believed that they can use that actor in this director's movie because Sean Penn appears on CBS to talk about you know he just happened to be doing a documentary on this incredibly interesting actor and then all of a sudden Russia invaded what are the chances it's like it like that just drops right in your lap. And Sean Penn, well, there's no one better to bring the message of hope for Slava Ukraine than Sean Penn.
Starting point is 00:10:50 In one of the clips, Andrei Yermak, one of the top advisors to President Zelensky, says to you, the U.S. position should be stronger if the United States and Joe Biden doesn't do something now. Essentially, he says America's over. That followed. Oh, yeah. No, he's saying it's uh yeah if america doesn't help america's over we're over we're over so that's what's happening we're no good we're just we're a-holes the united states and joe biden doesn't do something now essentially he says america's over that who was it that said that in one of the clips um andre yermak one of the top advisors to president zelinski one of the top advisors to zelinski you know one of the one of the
Starting point is 00:11:29 cares what he thinks well he has a speaking role hello he gets a sag card does it so he gets his he gets the minimum he gets a sag card minimum wage he says to you you know the u.s position should be stronger if the united states and joe biden doesn't do something now essentially he says america's over that followed with a pretty robust financial when are we going to get sick of these guys berating us after all the money we've given them it's this is getting ridiculous hey you're paying for this play you might as well sit back and enjoy it by the united states more than 50 billion dollars come on it's good pledges of weapons but but from what i've heard you say you think the united states isn't doing enough sean penn it is my absolute feeling that the as opposed to this feeling is spicoli caution
Starting point is 00:12:20 with which the united states has pledged support, which seemed in my reading of February 2022, was a lean on in the fear of nuclear conflict. Something I think all of us should look very carefully at and understand is possible. And that's to be concerning. I have to be, just stop this for a second. 59 years on this planet. The amount of times I've heard is, if you don't do X, then nuclear war, Y will happen. I've heard this so many times. Never, never has anything been, why will happen. I've heard this so many times.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Never, never has anything been... The only people who've dropped bomb nukes has been us. But since then, nothing. And it's tiring. It's like, really? It's just... Find something new, Sean.
Starting point is 00:13:23 The likelihood is extremely low. Oh, okay. And as one of our witnesses in the film says, you know, are we going to let a gangster with nuclear weapons dictate the way we live? Is he talking about Biden? Wait a minute. Is he talking about Biden?
Starting point is 00:13:42 Who's he talking about? Putin, I guess. Who's dictating the way we live? Apparently Putin. No. And that the Ukrainians won't let him do that. So we have to look at the... The Ukrainians are protecting us from Putin?
Starting point is 00:13:57 I'm so happy. Yes, they are the front line. The front line for stopping... Because Putin would be dictating what we do yes yes don't you understand shut up yo so now hold on a second i want to harken back to the trump era when i was at an event in the berkeley hills and i was actually told that putin is running trump everybody in berkeley felt this way everyone knew it it. I would say if you asked Nicole Wallace on MSNBC, she would still say that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And so this is not an unexpected thought, but it's ludicrous. It's ludicrous. I call out this one person at this event. I said, what are you telling me that Putin's actually running the country? And she said, nobody's calling the shots. Yeah, she said, no, but he's calling the shots. Yeah, it's his playbook. He's calling the shots. That's right.
Starting point is 00:14:51 That's right. And that's why, apparently, Biden is, you know, he's just, I don't know. Let's listen to the rest of Sean Penn here. We live. So I think that, and that the Ukrainians won't let him do that. Oh, thank you, Ukraine. Slava. So I think that and that the Ukrainians won't let him do that. Thank you, Ukraine. Slava. So we have to look at the aligned aspiration of what we are as people and as countries and as governments and, long range weapons robustly in position long since by now.
Starting point is 00:15:36 We have done such a poor job of getting long range weapons. It's just we have not helped them at all. This is horrible. And then the truth comes out, Sean Penn. There's still an opportunity for us to do the right thing. And whether it's Republican or Democrat, whether it's President Biden's administration or not, personally, I think that there's not only a principal win in escalating this, escalating our help of them, I think. I missed it. Okay, listen again.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I heard him stumble. I missed it. Okay, listen again. I heard him stumble. For us to do the right thing, and whether it's Republican or Democrat, whether it's President Biden's administration or not, personally, I think that there's not only a principle in escalating this, escalating our help of them, I think. He says it, escalating. We've got to escalate this. That's what he said. I think it's a principle. We've got to escalate this that's what he said i think it's a principle we got to escalate this that's right we got to bomb moscow
Starting point is 00:16:31 bomb moscow yes this he wants that one of the people you interviewed this last clip central bank had said to you world war three has begun and ukraine is the front line some people look at that and say that that's just hyperbole. You seem to really believe that. I don't know. What I don't know is which central bank head said that. So in this film, which I've not seen, a central bank head said World War Three has already begun. But I don't know who it was. You seem to really believe that, that there is more at stake in this conflict than just the territory in Eastern Europe. Yeah, I don't know that I would use the same words. He, by the way, is one of the more impressive people I've ever met.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And I, you know, I don't disagree with it. Do you think it was Powell? It couldn't have been Powell. I would have said Fed chair. No, it wouldn't definitely not be Powell. Would it be the European Central Bank? Because that's Fifi Lagarde, so it couldn't have been the European Central Bank. No, because it was a he.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Was it the Ukrainian Central Bank? Did they have a central bank? Probably. It depends on how one means it. Very impressive guy. I'm dumping out of this. Screw this guy. He's tiring.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Let's go to NBC and listen to Andrea Mitchell because she really had a great report. I think this includes our friend Lindy Hop. We have to stand up to this naked aggression today and deter other would-be aggressors tomorrow. In an impassioned speech, President Biden urged... Impassioned speech? Why can't they can't even tell the truth about that? I mean, I saw the speech. You saw the speech.
Starting point is 00:18:08 It was a fumbling, bumbling, like it was a disappointment. I was hoping for it to go off the rails. You know me. Yeah, they didn't jack him up. Not enough. She's just impassioned instead of incoherent. Is that what you meant, Andrea? In an impassioned speech,
Starting point is 00:18:25 President Biden urged world leaders to stay united behind Ukraine, warning of dire consequences if Russia's aggression goes unchecked. If we abandon the core principles of the United States to appease an aggressor, can any member state in this body
Starting point is 00:18:41 feel confident that they are protected? With growing calls in the U.S. and abroad to withhold... That's the best soundbite they could get? Anybody in this body... Hey, I got no soundbites. Can any member of the state in this body feel confident that they are protected? With growing calls in the U.S. and abroad to withhold additional aid to Ukraine, Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky
Starting point is 00:19:08 appearing in person this year to warn other leaders Russia could target them next. The goal of the present war against Ukraine is to turn our lands, our people, our lives, our resources into a weapon against you, against the international rules-based order. Today at the UN Security Council, Zelensky will present his peace plan
Starting point is 00:19:33 calling for a full Russian withdrawal and payment of reparations to rebuild his devastated country. Tomorrow, Zelensky will travel to Washington to meet with President Biden at the White House and plead with Congress to continue its military support. But Republicans are deeply divided over the Biden administration's request for an additional $24 billion for Ukraine. Where's the accountability and the money we already spent?
Starting point is 00:19:58 What is the plan for victory? But the consequences of pulling the plug on Ukraine are enormous. It will lead to more war, not less. There it is. We can't pull the plug on ukraine are enormous it will lead to more war not less there it is you know we can't pull the plug now it'll lead to more war not less that logic is interesting there's your logic that's your logic and now it turns out you know the con con from pakistan we didn't really cover much of it because, you know, but Khan got kicked out. It wasn't because of. I know we had something else to do, but Khan got kicked out.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And now it turns out the reason it now is he prime minister Khan. Was that his title? He was his excellency. Khan got kicked out because he wasn't on board with making cheap ammo for Ukraine in Pakistan at our behest. At least that is according to these clips. We're joined now by Ryan Grimley. Wait, I'm sorry. He was going to make...
Starting point is 00:20:58 Okay. So we were... We can't seem to make our own ammo anymore. Is that what we're finally concluding here? This is the real takeaway from all these reports. Well, so here's the worst part. When we spend billions of dollars for the war in Ukraine, Slava Ukraine, it's supposed to go to our guys.
Starting point is 00:21:22 It's not supposed to go to Pakistan. So I don't know what happened there amy goodman clip inbound we're joined now by ryan grim the intercepts washington bureau chief his latest piece co-written with martaza hussein is headlined us hold on a second let's just stop for a second and realize that the intercept which is an online kind of throwaway has a washington bureau chief of course as if they have like you know a ton of people and you know there's a bureau and there's the chief of the bureau and he's assigning this and that to different oh please and supposedly they got gobs and gobs of money which i'm sure comes well they might have gobs of money but they don't have a washington bureau
Starting point is 00:22:09 chief that's whatever okay but you know we well we have a washington bureau chief his excellency john c devorak the washington bureau chief of the no agenda show might as well be his headlined u.s help pakistan get imf bailout with secret arms deal for Ukraine. Leaked documents show. So elaborate on this, Ryan Grimm. Talk about the significance of the arms deal and Pakistan's changing position on the Ukraine war. In fact, it happened to be that Imran Khan was visiting with Russia. President Putin, the day Russia invaded Ukraine. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:48 With a name like Ryan Grimm, he's a spook. Come on. Ryan Grimm. Russia invaded Ukraine. Absolutely. Absolutely. Infuriated Washington. Several weeks later is when you had that critical meeting where Assistant Secretary Don Lew conveyed Washington's impression, which was that if Khan stays in power, Pakistan will be isolated from the EU and from the United States.
Starting point is 00:23:13 But if Khan is pushed out of power, then all will be forgiven. Because as as Lou put it, Washington understood that Imran Khan's policy was his own policy and not the policy of Pakistan. In other words, that if somebody knew were put in place, the hope was that Pakistan would then become a key ally, again, of the United States in its geopolitical struggle generally, but very specifically with Ukraine and Russia. Now, wait a minute.'t pakistan all in with china just to just to make it even more complicated or their war with china traditionally traditionally ignoring china pakistan was our buddy yeah and india was russia's buddy right we used i used to have a tennis racket made in pakistan and pakistan would buy our jets, and India would buy the Russian jets.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Yeah, and they'd fight over Kashmir. And they'd fight over one thing or another, Kashmir being the main thing. Whatever, just Kashmir, just fight for something. They would fight amongst themselves. And the irony, of course, is that there's just irony everywhere with this arrangement, and now we're trying to buddy up to India India and Modi doesn't like this and that. And now there's some some craziness going on there or some clips I've got later. There's a continue with this.
Starting point is 00:24:34 The second part of this. And since Khan was has was removed from power, what has been Pakistan's position on the war in Ukraine? We're all in. position on the war in ukraine we're all in interestingly uh the the foreign office yesterday in response to our story flat out denied uh that they're providing any weapons uh for the for the war in ukraine uh no nobody believes that uh we're not we're not the first to kind of report on this we're the first to confirm it uh with documents but there has been there have been there's been plenty of video and photographic evidence of munitions made in Pakistan that are being used in the Ukraine war. And the fact that they're operating this multi-hundred million dollar, it's over a billion by now because our data stopped last summer.
Starting point is 00:25:19 The production of the munitions for the war effort makes it makes it clear that after khan was removed pakistan became a reliable ally of the united states in in this war all right so here's the spook reporting on how a whole bunch of other spooks kicked khan out yeah you're not you're not that's yeah railroaded out this is what we call democracy pakistani democracy may ultimately be a casualty of ukraine's counter-offensive so why would the u.s and its allies go to such lengths for pakistan's allegiance to uh uh on ukraine oh what do you think john what could it be why would pakistan go through all those links because they're supposed to be our our buddy right you just said it then do you want our jets
Starting point is 00:26:06 pakistan then you gotta make some bullets i think yeah when the united states has a primary foreign policy objective uh in particular uh when it's a war everything else falls away and that's what you're seeing in in pakistan now and for pakistanis the irony is is clearly not lost that the united states and and is bringing together kind of the the world to stand up for the defense of democracy and sovereignty in ukraine meanwhile you know quite deliberately and openly sacrificing uh democracy in a in a country of 230 million people uh in in Mr. Grimm, no one buys it anymore. No one buys it. No one cares.
Starting point is 00:26:49 People want their potholes fixed. I do. Yeah. Yeah. You got anything else on Ukraine? I just have the NTD report on Zelensky. It's just kind of a wrap. No, that's worth it.
Starting point is 00:27:01 This is NTD. Turning now to the war in Ukraine. Speaking before the UN Security Council today, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky urged the organization to strip... Just say Zelensky. You don't have to go all out and say Kyiv and Volodymyr. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky urged the organization... You know she's at home going,
Starting point is 00:27:29 Honey, I screwed it up. I feel feel bad i didn't say it right you know and now when i see him i'm gonna shake his hand he'll be like oh you got the lady mispronounced my name oh it's so cute also today ukrainian president vladimir zelensky urged the organization to strip russia of its veto power therefore the un general assembly should be given a real power to overcome the veto. This will be the first necessary step. It is impossible to stop the war because all efforts are vetoed by the aggressor. Zelensky added that he won't accept any peace deal unless it requires Russia's complete withdrawal from Ukrainian territory. He went on to accuse the UN of a willingness to, quote, compromise with killers. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was not present for Zelensky's speech, and Zelensky left the meeting before Lavrov spoke later. The Ukrainian president
Starting point is 00:28:16 is slated to be on Capitol Hill tomorrow morning. He will be meeting with the entire Senate. I hope someone stands up and just says hey you second rate actor go away i mean it's just all going to be this pandering thank you your excellency thank you for making the dangerous trip here from from the un building you know it's yeah we wish. And meanwhile, I don't know about the rest of the world, but the United States of America was caught in the biggest... The distraction of the week. On the agenda.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Look over there. Pay no attention to anything but this, people. It took nearly 28 hours to find it, but crews finally started picking up the pieces from the crash of one of this country's most sophisticated jet fighters. I mean, it's scary to think that something landed that close to our house. The pilot of the Marine F-35 ejected Sunday afternoon, just a mile from the Charleston airport. Sunday afternoon, just a mile from the Charleston airport. But the plane went missing, forcing the military to tweet out an appeal for any information on its whereabouts. How does it just disappear and how does the Pentagon ask for the public's help in finding it?
Starting point is 00:29:43 It's just a huge embarrassment. The plane was one of two F-35s flying at 1,000 feet as they came into land when something went wrong. The pilot who ejected had already been discharged from the hospital by the time the $100 million plane was found 60 miles away. David Burke is a former F-35 pilot who once commanded the same unit. It doesn't surprise you that a plane could have an emergency serious enough for the pilot to eject and still be able to fly another 60 miles. It's a pretty rare event, but as uncommon as it might be, it's a plausible thing. Even at 1,000 feet? That's it. If the nose was pitched up or moving up, the jet will fly for many miles.
Starting point is 00:30:27 The F-35 is a stealth jet. Hard to track, especially because its transponder was off, which is standard procedure in a two-plane formation. So it's very common in any aircraft for the wingman to secure, meaning to turn off their transponder. All right. So let's just, of all we have we have our own f navy pilots then they all they all emailed me saying oh my good first of all they
Starting point is 00:30:52 emailed me all the funniest memes the f-35 on the milk carton you know all of that here it is the pilot i could have used that one what's that i said i could have used that one for the newsletter it was actually it wasn't that good there were a couple i mean there were some very funny ones i like the one where it's for sale on ebay you know so some of that is good um and obviously the communications within our armed forces are just no good so the fact that they put this out on social media you know you're just looking for But it was a good distraction. So most people that I saw, it was hacked.
Starting point is 00:31:30 It was a hack. China hacked it. China hacked the jet and you had to eject because China may have the jet. And then the funniest. That's a good one. There was another good one on Telegram. They found the pilot's wallet, which means he didn't really eject. He landed it there and then the chinese took it oh yeah i did see the wallet that was so eye roller um here's the general take pilot had an emergency when he slash she
Starting point is 00:31:58 it's possible stepped through the emergency procedures that led the pilot to ejection as the only solution in the emergency procedures matrix maybe we should not have bought an expensive single engine fighter jet if the autopilot was on at the time of ejection it's very feasible the aircraft continued on until out of gas or upset by something else perhaps flying into a thunderstorm rf pilots say it's more likely that the single engine flamed out could have been out of gas could have just flamed the flame outs happen and the pilot was too low couldn't restart it punched out and these things happen you know these things, but it became such a, oh, such a conspiracy. And now accentuated by, I think the best central casting did a great job. Did you see the F-35 crash witness? Oh, the black guy.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Oh, this guy is the best. In the bathroom taking a shave. And I heard a screeching. Saw that between a screech and a whistle. Oh! I said, what in the world is this? And I heard a boom in my whole house. White says he didn't realize it was a plane at the time,
Starting point is 00:33:18 so he didn't call anybody. The first thought came to me, I said, is that a meteorite coming out of space or something? And I said, well, if it's the airplane, it need to be reported. The thing was flying just too low. So yesterday evening, the helicopters out there walking, trying to keep flying around. I said, well, somebody must have robbed a banker, killed some people or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I walked up there. He told me it was about the plane. The F-35B airplane wreckage created an extensive debris field. The wreckage is located off Old Georgetown Road. Military security is very tight with numerous red and white signs on the side of the road that read, no trespassing. This area has been designated a national defense area. Just to the grace of God, nobody get hurt because the church right up there, about a half mile. About a mile of old Georgetown Road will be closed for an unknown period of time.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Anything man made can malfunction. That's right. Try to give the benefit of the doubt, but it needs to be investigated and the public needs to know what really happened. That's right. Public needs to know what really happened. By the way, that scream he did. I mean, that was, that's just, it's so good. Goat scream. That's what I, let's compare. Man! That guy is good. That guy is good. What are you doing in the country?
Starting point is 00:34:38 He's out there in the South Carolina backwoods. I love this guy. I love him. He needs to, he needs, you know, people needs people rogan rogan needs to get that guy on the show rogan i'm gonna tell joe you need that guy on the show for sure uh you know the f-35 has had problems and yes single engine flame out at a thousand feet you got a problem and then the question is how far did it i mean we don't know anything but boy we don't know anything boy did it was everybody obsessed with it not quite as
Starting point is 00:35:13 obsessed with the national alert which should be taking place on october 4th i think another on october 11th you know we had this during president obama's time um when he was going to fire off the alert remember that no oh come on it was gonna be the everyone's cell phone all the television stations only vaguely remember because my nothing in my house went off well no in fact i i recall that we were laughing that half of it didn't work at all but it was oh hold on balmy oh and this is it he's in they're taking over our phones well there's a new one and this this was blanketing x there were there were entire text groups going around saying make sure whatever you do keep your phone off you should unplug your
Starting point is 00:36:06 computer unplug your television because this is going to be bad it's been a warning going around that on october 4th and if it doesn't happen on october 4th it's going to be on october 11th at 2 22 eastern the emergency broadcasting system under fema is going to be activated. And this is like the high pitch, saying this is only a test. It's not a test. It's going to be sending these high frequency signals into cell phones, radios, TVs, with the intention of activating nanoparticles, including graphene oxide. What does graphene oxide do to the human body? Well, it induces cell toxicity through plasma membrane damage, generation of reactive oxygen species and DNA damage. DNA damage. Any concentration above 20 micrograms per millimeter for 24 hours is considered toxic.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Like, hold up, because this sounds like the movie The Cell. Israel is not happy about this and supposedly they're doing some things to stop it and maybe it will stop there but it's going to happen in the united states calm down ladies calm down people were free we're seriously freaking out about this oh no it's going to activate the nanoparticles if you had the vax you're going to die because the graphene oxide will immediately create toxicity in your body and you'll fall over dead this is what they're doing this is it i just feel who comes up with this stuff that you have to assume
Starting point is 00:37:40 this is not who would come up with that it just doesn't make any sense well i think you know what it is we've got a dog bark yeah this yeah she there's someone at the door we've gotten to the point where through media and m5m and alternative media phoebe people just don't trust their government and and when when people lose trust in the government then everything kind of goes out the door but i mean like real real loss of trust and and um uh what's the blaséness about it like you know phoebe phoebe come here. It's just nanoparticles. Phoebe's got a clue. Could be.
Starting point is 00:38:31 She's like, daddy, daddy, nanoparticles are activated. So there's just, there is a loss of trust in government, which was actually, oh man, I'm going to have to play a clip so I can go deal with her. It's triggered by lies. Yes, of course. Government lies don't help. But when, but that, you're right. Yes, of course. Government lies don't help. But that, you're right. That's one thing.
Starting point is 00:38:51 But then when we get to the complete loss of trust, then people don't. I went to the city council meeting here. And yeah, we actually got something done. No tax increase. Good move. But the distrust and the disdain. Our mayor's a musician. He's just a dude. But okay, he's the mayor.
Starting point is 00:39:12 And you can just see the hatred. People hate him. This is no good. I can see what they're doing. They're putting on a little play, which, of course, most of the time is true. Nowhere was this more evident than the grilling of Garland. This is another TV miniseries that played out in this was Congress. And I have three clips that are just dynamite, all by actors I have never really seen.
Starting point is 00:39:44 These are as far as I'm concerned, these are the newcomers. Again, we don't, you know, SAG-AFTRA, writers, we don't need you. This is the play right here. We start off with Representative Van Drew, who is a Republican from New Jersey, used to be a Democrat, which I did not know, New Jersey. It used to be a Democrat, which I did not know.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And he brings up the Catholic traditional Catholic extremist memo. Yeah, this is a decent clip. And Garland freaks out. So, so this is a memo from January 23rd from the FBI's field office in Richmond, Virginia titled interest of racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists in radical traditionalist Catholic ideology
Starting point is 00:40:29 almost certainly present new mitigation opportunities. FBI Richmond assesses the increasingly observed interest of racially and ethnically motivated violent extremists, RMVEs, in racial traditionalist Catholic ideology for, wait, opportunities for threat mitigation through the exploration of new avenues for tripwire and source development.
Starting point is 00:40:52 In other words, the FBI was sending undercover agents into churches to root out these violent extremists. The actions of the DOJ are on you. The decline of Americans' trust in our federal law enforcement is on you. The political weaponization of the DOJ is on you. Attorney General, I need a simple yes or no to the following. Just yes or no, because we don't have much time. Do you agree that traditional Catholics are violent extremists? Yes or no?
Starting point is 00:41:25 Let me answer what you've said in that long list of questions. I'll be happy to answer all of those. Attorney General, I control the time. I'm going to ask you to answer the questions I ask. You control time by asking me a substantial number of things. I didn't ask you those things. I made a statement. Attorney General.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Hold on a second. Stop this clip. So this has got to end what these idiots both democrats and republicans do this yes and no yes and no they make a big point of it and the guy never answers yes and no and he's and the time he's trying to save is wasted with the back and forth that now begins. Well, I can't answer yes or no. Well, you have to answer yes or no. And it goes, this is the most ludicrous. It's worse than like, it's not even good writing.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I have to say, I'll give the writer room. Because this is, you know, answer yes or no. I'm trying my time. I only have so much time. And the time is wasted bitching about your time and the yes and no and the rest of it. I'm sorry, were you confused with this being something that is a real question and answer session? No, this is a script. This is a script to communicate something to the american people
Starting point is 00:42:45 in this i don't know what they're trying to communicate with this i have yes go they continue with this this is what actually one of the better exchanges because garland gets all bent out of shape about it if if i'm not mistaken if it's the right clip there's there's a number well substantial number of. I didn't ask you those things. I made a statement. Attorney General, through the chair, I ask you,
Starting point is 00:43:09 do you agree that traditional Catholics are violent extremists? I have no idea what the traditional means here. I love that part. He's like, I have to think about something. No one gave me this script.
Starting point is 00:43:23 How come I wasn't, where's my sides? I have no idea what the traditional means here. The idea, let me just, can I answer your question? The idea that someone with my family background
Starting point is 00:43:36 would discriminate against any religion is so outrageous, so absurd. Mr. Attorney General, it was your FBI that did this. It was your FBI that was sending, and we have the memos, we have the emails,
Starting point is 00:43:51 we're sending undercover agents into Catholic churches. Both I and the director of the FBI have said that we were appalled by that memo. So then you agree that they're not extremists? We were appalled by that memo. Are then you agree that they're not extremists? We were appalled by that memo. Are they extremists or not, Attorney General? I think that... Are they extremists or not, Attorney General?
Starting point is 00:44:11 Everything in that memo is appalling. Are they extremists or not? I'm asking a simple question. Say no if you think that was wrong. Catholics are not extremists. No. Was anyone fired for drafting and circulating the anti-Catholic memo? You have in front of you
Starting point is 00:44:25 the inspection division's investigation. Just tell me yes or no, please. I don't know. We have no time. I don't know the answer to that. I don't know. Okay, not to be outdone, we have the best new actress.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Where has she been all my life? Victoria Spatz from Indiana. best new actress where has she been all my life victoria spots from indiana and she hooks right into the attorney general being you know from immigrant parents from where's he from uh belarus or something i have no idea i think so now this this congresswoman represents a district in Indiana. She was born in Ukraine, and she is a Ukrainian-American. She has a dynamite look. I mean, kudos on hair and makeup for what they did with her here. She has the perfect accent. And, of course, because of her accent, she can take it all the way to, you know, we're living under a Stasi regime.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Are you aware that a lot of Americans are now afraid of being prosecuted by your department? Are you aware about that? Are you aware of that? I'm just saying, are you aware or not? By the way, she has the same script. Don't let him answer. Just keep buffaloing all the way through. I think that constant attacks on the department and saying that...
Starting point is 00:45:49 It's not attacks. Let me give you an example. You talk about January 6th. I'm sorry? Some people came on January 6th. There probably were some people that came on January 6th here that had bad intent. But a lot of good Americans from my district came here because
Starting point is 00:46:05 they are sick and tired of this government not serving them they came with strollers and the kids they come with strollers and the kids and there was chaotic situation because this this is good writing there was chaotic situation this is perfect because you've already forgotten she's ukrainian you're already like she's Russian. I mean, it's good. Not serving them. They came with strollers and the kids and there was chaotic situation because the proper security wasn't provided. That's a question that was answered. Really?
Starting point is 00:46:35 Why? Why? We debated for 45 minutes on the floor. The debate after the people broken into the Capitol. But these people came. the debate after the people broke into the Capitol. But these people came. They were throwing the smoke bombs into
Starting point is 00:46:47 the crowd with strollers with kids. People who showed up, you know, FBI agent to people's houses. You had in my district, in my town, FBI phone numbers all over the district. Please call. Call that. People are
Starting point is 00:47:04 truly afraid. I just want to make sure if you're not aware that you are. And this is a big problem when people are afraid of their own government. And I'll show you some other things. We're talking about justice system. I don't question. You're probably not a bad person.
Starting point is 00:47:19 I don't know you. But what I'll tell you, you're in charge of the department. And people right now feel. You know, I look at Durham report and I call on the fights and violations of various of millions of Americans. Right. It's like KGB. But when I read Durham reports, you have this. It's like KGB. Come on. She's good. She's doing her job. She's doing her job. This is this. And what she's doing here is exactly what MAGA country wants to hear. But it's making people more afraid of their government.
Starting point is 00:47:50 But she is highlighting this Justice Department, which seems to be quite a mess. Quite a mess. I like when she brings in the KGB. But then the final one. Well, I've got a couple, too. You want to play some now and then we can do yeah let's play i want to get where they're more my favorite one is this one this is garland stone walls and it's because of his usages i find fascinating now in that video that was your answer to a question to me two years ago. When I said how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5th and January 6th
Starting point is 00:48:31 and agitating in the crowd to go into the Capitol and how many went into the Capitol. Can you answer that now? I don't know the answer to that question. Last time, you don't know how many there were or there were none? I don't know the answer to either of those questions. If there were any, I don't know how many there were or there were none? I don't know the answer to either of those questions. If there were any, I don't know how many. I don't know whether there are any.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I think you may have just perjured yourself that you don't know that there were any. You want to say that again, that you don't know that there were any? I have no personal knowledge of this matter. I think what I said the last time. You've had two years to find out, and the day... By the way, that was in reference to Ray Epps, and yesterday you indicted him. Isn't that a wonderful coincidence? On a misdemeanor.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Meanwhile, you're sending grandmas to prison. Grandmas to prison. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I have a sub clip of a Garland piece, but I can't see where the Garland piece is. I have it. Yeah, Kash Patel was on NTD, and he's one of the best spokespersons for, I don't know who he represents, actually.
Starting point is 00:49:43 He's an ex-attorney. William Morris Agency, I think. Yeah, well, he actually. He's a ex-attorney. William Moore's agency, I think. Yeah, well, he's really good. I've always enjoyed him. He is, play these clips. This is a couple of, this is Kash Patel going over Garland and the fact that he's getting his tit in a ringer. And he has some nice points to make before you do your clip.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Garland is firing back at congressional Republicans saying in his opening statements today, quote, I am not the president's lawyer, adding I am not Congress's prosecutor. What's your reaction to a statement here? No, he's just President Biden's bag man. I mean, he can say that he's not Hunter Biden's lawyer or Joe Biden's lawyer, and he can say he's not Congress's lawyer. Those are fake news headlines that CNN and The Washington Post will grab and say, look at this apolitical administrator of justice. But what you have to do is look at his testimony coming out today where he continues to lie in Stonewall Congress. He has six congressional subpoenas for documents that he still has not provided to Congress.
Starting point is 00:50:48 He's in violation of those, which is a felony contempt of Congress. He's never going to prosecute himself for that. And how about the disinformation he continues to give Congress on whether or not people interfered with the investigation into Hunter Biden and whether he participated in it. He just refuses to answer these questions as if he is if he the attorney general himself is above the law. He's been charged to administer from an intellectual standpoint. Yes, Kash Patel is good, but people the people in America, it takes them so long to catch on to stuff. It takes years and years and years for people to finally go, hey, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Something's up here. Something's not right. Like that guy who saw the F-35. He's like, we deserve to know what's going on. It takes a long time. And Kash Patel is not. It takes forever. We've been doing this show for 15 years,
Starting point is 00:51:40 and we've moved maybe five people. That many. Here's Kash Patel finishing up. up now i don't have more clips he went on for a while and i will say that he he really made a good point that if the if congress cared they would they would throw the book at garland for not producing the documents or even answering questions and they could they have their own ability to do contempt of Congress and actually jail people. And they can also take their money away, which apparently they've done in the past, which is, you know, say you can't, you were taking so much money away from your agency if you don't do this. And they're not doing any of it, which says to me that this
Starting point is 00:52:21 whole thing is what you said at the beginning. This is scripted on both sides as bull crap. And Cash, on that note, when it comes to Hunter Biden, Garland is saying he doesn't recollect if he spoke to the FBI during that time. Have you had personal contact with anyone at FBI headquarters about the Hunter Biden investigation? I don't recollect the answer to that question. Is it possible that he wouldn't be involved given it's the president's son? Look, I get that there's a lot of things the attorney general has going on and that come across his desk. But when you speak about the ongoing investigation of the current president
Starting point is 00:53:04 of the United States, you can have Joe Biden's memory and you're going to remember that one. And so I don't believe for a second he's not involved, just like we found out that the White House and Joe Biden lied when they said they weren't involved in the Trump prosecution. The White House counsel's office, pursuant to the direction of President Biden, relinquished executive privilege so the DOJ could prosecute Donald Trump. Only one man in America can relinquish that privilege, Joe Biden. And so this theme of lying and covering up, whether you want to call it unlawful activity or corruption, the fact that the Attorney General of the United States is totally weaponized, to me, is the most dangerous thing we can see in our system of justice.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah, it's too intellectual. Who does he work for? No, I agree. But I want to play this sub clip from that's where Garland made this very interesting little remark. This is the Garland sub clip from that quote that was in that little piece. Listen to this. I don't recollect the answer to that question. Because I forgot my lines. I don't recollect the answer to that question. So he forgot my lines i don't recollect the answer to that
Starting point is 00:54:06 question so he's asked the question that's good and he says i don't recollect the answer yeah well you nailed it that's exactly right no i don't i don't recollect the answer to that question because uh we had the meeting we had the table read read. I don't recollect. I'm sorry. You got me. I don't have the answer to that. I don't recollect the answer to that question. Yeah. Now, they did bring out yet another actor I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:34 He's from Texas. Troy Nels. Have you heard of this guy? N-E-H-L-S. Troy Nels. Nope. How many congressmen do we have? Lots.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Over 400. And they gave him the monologue they said troy troy we like that little little tuft of hair you got on top of your head uh he's bald but he's got this cool like little swirl and when he looks down his paper you're like whoa oh it looks terrible yeah and they said troy we want you to explain the whole burisma joe biden bribery quid pro quo here's your script whatever you do don't let garland say anything just buffalo all the way through you'll be great thank you mr chairman mr garland what is a confidential human source well it's a it's an fbi term i don't know all the technical Well, it's an FBI term. I don't know all the technicality, but it's... Let me define it for you.
Starting point is 00:55:28 It's in your own policy here. An individual who is believed to be providing useful and credible information to the FBI from any authorized information collection activity and from whom what the FBI expects or intends to obtain additional useful and credible information in the future. tends to obtain additional, useful, and credible information in the future. And by the way, pay attention to Representative Nell's voices, his intonation. He uses his voice very effectively. A very, very skilled actor. All right. And whose identity, information, or relationship with the FBI warrants confidential handling?
Starting point is 00:56:01 So these guys are individuals. You pay them $42 million a year. Did you know that? The IG said you're paying these sources $42 million a year. Did you know that? I know informants. It's $42 million a year. So do you believe that they're credible? They're valuable. The FBI's using these guys. We're paying them a lot of money. Would you agree with that? I agree. Some are more credible. Very good.
Starting point is 00:56:20 So they're credible. You're paying them a lot of money. You got a lot of them out there. It's so good. I mean, this is a skit that is so well. And kudos to Garland, by the way. He totally got it. And all those lawyers behind him, they're all kind of snickering. They're the studio audience. It was beautiful. So let me paint the picture for America. Hunter Biden joins Burisma in 2014. Paint the picture.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Very, very corrupt Ukrainian energy company. He has no experience in oil and gas. He admits it. I don't have any experience. I know why I'm there. He's so good. He's doing voices. I have a dad.
Starting point is 00:56:55 He's doing a schtick. Yes, he's doing a whole bit. He has no experience in oil and gas. He admits it. I don't have any experience. I know why I'm there. I have a dad. I have with me a document called the FD-1023. Have you seen this? You're familiar with it? It's used by the FBI, everybody in America. It's used by the FBI. It is a confidential
Starting point is 00:57:15 human source reporting document dated June 2020. You're familiar with it. In this document, the FBI's confidential human source says Burisma, now the corrupt company, needed to keep Hunter on the board so everything would be okay. And according to the human source, they hired Hunter Biden to, quote, protect us through his dad for all kinds of problems. Mr. Garland, does that concern you? Okay, it should. I got limited time. Remember, your sources are credible. He even waits.
Starting point is 00:57:48 He even leaves the pause for Garland to open his mouth to Buffalo over him. It's great. Clip coming. Clip coming. Okay, it should. I got limited time. Remember, your sources are credible, trustworthy, honest, and valuable. Are you familiar with Victor Shoken?
Starting point is 00:58:03 The document that you're talking about? Who is Mr. Victor Shokin? Sorry, I got three minutes left. You want me to answer that? Yeah, Victor Shokin. Who is he? I don't know. Do you want me to answer that? He doesn't know who Victor Shokin is.
Starting point is 00:58:15 This is the best part. I don't know Victor Shokin. I've never heard this name. I don't read newspapers. I never listened to podcasts. I've never heard of Shokin. I've never heard of whatokin. Shokin? TV? What's TV? The document that you're talking about. Who is Mr. Victor Shokin? Sorry, I got
Starting point is 00:58:30 three minutes left. You want me to answer that? Yeah, Victor Shokin. Who is he? I don't know. Do you want me to answer the first question? Okay, he's the prosecutor, folks. He's the prosecutor that was, he oversees all the corruption in Ukraine. We know there's corruption over there. For the American people watching, after a few months, a few months after Hunter Biden joined the Burisma board, Viktor Shokin was named prosecutor general for Ukraine to target corruption. And one of his investigations was into Burisma. In this FD 1023 document, the human source clarified that Burisma's CEO, the man in charge of Burisma, said he has many text messages and recordings that show he was coerced to make such payment
Starting point is 00:59:11 to ensure Victor Shulkin was fired. Matter of fact, there were 17 of them. Mr. Garland, it's clear Joe Biden wanted Shulkin fired so he would stop looking into Burisma, where Hunter was on the board. Would you agree? Uh. All right, let's let the American people decide. Play the clip. Play the clip. And he goes to a clip. Remember going over.
Starting point is 00:59:34 He goes to the CFR clip, which you might as well play. Oh, God. We might as well play it, because he's making his point and it's beautifully done. Our team, our others, too, convincing us that we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor and they didn't so they said they had they were walking out to press conference said no i said i'm not going to we're not going to give you the billion dollars they said you have no authority you're not the
Starting point is 01:00:14 president the president said i said call him i said i'm telling you you're not getting a billion dollars i said you're not getting the billion i'm gonna be leaving here i think it was what six hours i look i said we're leaving in six hours if the prosecutor's not fired you're not getting the billion. I'm going to be leaving here. I think it was, what, six hours. I look, I said, I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. Oh, son of a bitch. Got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid. So clearly, I just want to point out, someone in the writer's room is listening to no agenda because you called for this very clip not but two shows ago.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah, that's the clip this is the clip and so that's clips been around for like years obviously years and years and the and the right wing is always pushing this clip and and for some reason the mainstream media has ignored it to this day they still ignore it it's a minute left here mr eternal general what you just saw there was jo was Joe Biden in his arrogance and role as the vice president in this country saying, if you don't fire Shokin, the United States isn't given the $1 billion loan. Why would Joe Biden say that as the vice president? Why would he say such a thing? Was it policy? Was it our policy at the time? Yes or no?
Starting point is 01:01:23 It wasn't. I have documents here. Interagency Policy Committee dated October 15th. Is the gentleman ever going to let the gentleman in? I'm on my time. Pipe down. Saying Shulkin had made significant reforms. He's made significant reforms.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Shulkin did. Matter of fact, John Kerry says he was... John Kerry, another guy whose kid was involved in corruption in Ukraine, had made the long term in Texas. He's made significant reforms. Shoken did. Matter of fact, John Kerry says he was impressive. And, you know, within a few months after Shoken was fired, they appoint a prosecutor that said we're not going to look in the Burisma anymore. Cancel it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Forget it. We're not looking in the Burisma. Boom. Here comes the Burisma. Boom. Here comes the million dollars. Joe Biden threatened the Ukrainian president and the prime minister. Everybody can see it. The fire's choking or the United States won't give the billion dollars. If that is not quid pro quo, sir, what is? I will tell you what it is. And America agrees with me. It's bribery and it's impeachable. Are you going to do something about it?
Starting point is 01:02:24 I bet you not. And that's why you, sir, also need to be impeached. I yield back. Yes, that was a whirlwind performance. He's a new guy. He's a new guy. Well, he's trying to, you know, Texas has always got one guy. This is the guy. Yeah guy this is the guy yeah this
Starting point is 01:02:46 is the guy i need to meet him hey we got some more ideas for you you won't get a word in edgewise now all of this said there is some danger on the horizon to a degree uh for alternative media, you know, like podcasts, although I think we're pretty safe. I figured out the Russell Brand thing. It took me, it was bugging me. Oh, good. It was like, why after 16, 15, 16 years, you know, why is this happening?
Starting point is 01:03:19 Why did they pop this? You know, something is going on. And this is mainly a british story although it concerns the united states as well because russell brand is uh is very popular and people have come to like popular as a podcaster yes people have come to like him now the backdrop of this is that the online safety bill is uh it was going to be law in the uk which allows the british government to essentially just spy on everybody all the time and uh and you know it's it's over free speech is done in britain so the i believe what is happening here. I believe safety.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah. Oh yeah. The whole, just the naming of the bill is fantastic. I know they're always named like that. What is happening is there is an awareness now that there is, that they're losing out. They're losing out to these other platforms.
Starting point is 01:04:19 When I say losing out, I mean, losing they mainstream media is losing out. To other platforms. So they're losing advertising revenue. And when I say mainstream, it is YouTube specifically. Just as a quick aside, Google is in the middle of an antitrust lawsuit and all kinds of discovery is coming up.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Things like Dishler uh who runs the ad business said monday he believes most advertisers would move to rivals like meta or bite dances tiktok if google tried to increase prices by 15 while they were rigging the ad auctions to raise them by five or ten percent that's that's how you do it and they and they said you know hey you know we have real competition but they didn't mention the true competition, which also involves the, you know, like the back doors, the censorship, the do what we say, which involves politics. And the main one that they're going after right now is Rumble. And they're doing it in multiple ways. And Rumble, we have to understand that when you...
Starting point is 01:05:26 Who's they? Who's they going after Rumble? The politicians. The politicians are going after Rumble. And the politicians and the news media is going after Rumble. That's they. That's they. And when I say they, it is the politicians and the news media lackeys.
Starting point is 01:05:42 So we have the correspondents from the Culture, Media, and Sport Committee writing to the CEO of Rumble saying, I am writing concerning the serious allegations regarding Russell Brand in the context of his being a content provider on Rumble with more than 1.4 million followers. The Culture, Media, and Sport Committee
Starting point is 01:06:03 is raising questions with the broadcasters and production companies who previously employed Mr. Brand to examine both the culture of the industry in the past and whether that culture still prevails today. However, we are also looking at his use of social media, including on Rumble, where he issued his preemptive response to the accusations made against him by the Sunday Times and Channel 4's dispatches. And they're on and on and on.
Starting point is 01:06:26 So we would be grateful if you would confirm whether Mr. Brand is able to monetize his content, including his videos relating to the serious accusations against him. So they are trying, and the CEO of Rumble wrote back a letter, I'm appalled, we'll never do that. But the gauntlet has been thrown down. If you don't remove Brand, we're going to demonetize you. We'll never do that. But the gauntlet has been thrown down. If you don't remove brand, we're going to demonetize you. We're going to go after your advertisers. And it all came into view for me listening to the News Agents podcast. I've talked about this
Starting point is 01:06:57 before. The News Agents is a very, very successful podcast. It's four top journalists from the BBC, you know, the ones who have interviewed statesmen and they kind of get together like they're like they're in the newsroom discussing stuff right and they have a usa version now as well and it's owned by global property so it's it is a mainstream media podcast they are all in on this because they do their Russell Brand segment. This is right after this all breaks. Do they talk about rape allegations? No, no, no, that's not interesting. This is a Global Player original podcast. Hello there, you awakening wonders. Now, this isn't the usual type of video we make on this channel where we critique, attack and undermine the news in all its corruption, because in this story, I am the news. That was Russell Brand on Friday night on YouTube. And I
Starting point is 01:07:50 think it's important to remind our listeners that for many people, the first they ever heard about this investigation, about these sexual assault allegations, was his pre-denial. On a platform that wasn't the Sunday Times, that wasn't Channel 4, that wasn't the BBC, it was him speaking directly to his followers, his six and a half million followers. He says there that I am the news. That is true in more ways than one. Today, he has been demonetised by YouTube. Content and old shows of his have been taken down by the BBC, by Channel 4. But on today's show, we're going to ask the question about whether any of that for Brand,
Starting point is 01:08:43 for his reach, for the millions of people who follow him on online platforms, whether any of that really matters, can you really cancel Russell Brand? Welcome to the news, agents. So, who cares about rape? No, no, no, we don't care about that. I don't think he's been charged either. No, as far as I know, he hasn't.
Starting point is 01:09:01 But it's not about rape. No, no, it's about his opinion and monetizing his opinion. I mean, when you've got a situation when, you know, Russell Brand, I mean, just to take some of his digital followings, he's got 4 million on Instagram, 2.2 million on TikTok, 6.5 million on YouTube. And, you know, when you look at some of the things that some of his followers have been saying over the, you know, weekend in response to him and And, you know, the Internet isn't necessarily real life, but it's always, to some extent, a reflection of a bit of real life. And it is also financial. And it's financially lucrative and real life. You know, some of the things, we're with you, Russell.
Starting point is 01:09:37 I've been wondering how long it would be until they, they, try to pull this card with a little crying emoji. I'm with you all the way, Russell. They did it to Assange. They tried it with Bernie Sanders. They did it to Corbyn. They'll try and find anyone they find a threat. And as we were talking about yesterday, this is where there is the intersection between media and this new media ecosystem and politics. And the fact that our politics on both sides of the Atlantic has taken this conspiratorial turn where players, political players, try and pretend there are kind of shadowy figures everywhere trying to undermine them.
Starting point is 01:10:08 That is exactly the scene that Russell Brand is tapping into to try and exploit this moment and to try and survive this moment. This is the crux as far as I'm concerned. a lot of people right and left are going to alternative platforms the new media platforms as they say this other ecosystem and they're getting a voice they're getting traction and even demonetizing on the on with our friendly guys because it's easy to demonetize someone on youtube and meta which they won't talk about no no tiktok that seems to be a problem but this rumble thing this alternative ecosystem i think there are places that are, if you like, the safety net. More than that, the new ecosystem to this whole idea of cancellation. So I was told yesterday that actually one of the platforms in which Russell Brand is heavily monetizing is Rumble.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And it was a site that I wasn't that familiar with never heard of it i'm a journalist why would i ever look at rumble i look at youtube and x it kind of tends to serve the alt-right it tends to serve the characters like alex jones and steve bannon and the sort of info wars kind of people and i was told told that Russell Brand is actually getting millions from work he does there, whether it's monetised or whether they're actually just paying for him, because they find people who have exactly been shut out, if you like, of the mainstream media or shut out of the BBC or Channel 4 or places that no longer want to work with him and say, oh, right, let us be your home. And we will provide the following for people who don't really want to be part of that mainstream media landscape anyway.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Which is not that big a problem other than, and this is the whole theme, same from the Member of Parliament, well, he's monetizing. It's okay to be an idiot somewhere on the internet, but you're monetizing. This will not stand. Rumble has to go down. And so actually half this stuff is going on that a lot of people won't see. They won't recognize. I totally forgotten about him, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Did you? I mean, in the last few years. I went on Rumble last night. Oh, no. And it was really interesting. Oh, I went on Rumble. Never caught a Rumble video. it was really interesting oh i went on rumble never never caught a rumble video it was really interesting because i didn't know that he'd done the first interview with tucker
Starting point is 01:12:30 carlson the fired fox news presenter he's interviewed ronda santis he's here we go you would never know that russell brand was so tied in to what we think of as the sort of i don't know the mega voice or the all-right american. And this suggests that, you know, we will happily admit we are probably missing parts of these conversations where Russell Brand is flourishing and will continue to flourish, whether or not the BBC removes an episode of QI. Exactly. And that's what is, I think that's what's just so fascinating about this, which is that, yeah, I mean, I was trying to wrap my brains this morning. I had some vague sense, I think, that he had gone down this kind of anti-vax kind of route and had become kind of more eccentric, more kooky. But I had no idea, really, that he was, and this is someone I like to think, right, that pretty plugged into the media, pretty close observer of the media, but not that type of media.
Starting point is 01:13:21 And this is the kind of challenge to us in a way, right, is that we can all make ourselves feel better by, you know, thinking, oh, right, he's being dropped by this, that, and the other. And maybe it's not applicable to loads of people, but for someone like Brand, it doesn't matter. And in fact, not only does it not matter, arguably, it's helping it, right? They are beside themselves. They can't stand it. They can't, the whole idea that there's traction and money somewhere else that they don't control.
Starting point is 01:13:49 And that's completely in line with what the Washington Post did to Dave Portnoy. They're going after advertisers, which is why I've always said you can't monetize the network. Rumble will be in trouble. All these centralized systems. Oh, it's great. Rumble. be in trouble. All these centralized systems. Oh, it's great. Rumble. Oh, they, they, when Rumble loses their advertisers, they will kick Russell Brand off or they will fold this.
Starting point is 01:14:12 No, they'll keep him on. He just won't be. He won't be paid. Yeah. But, but what advertiser wants to be a part of members of parliament writing letters? Advertisers are skittish. I mean, okay. They're totally skittish and they're very sheepish
Starting point is 01:14:27 pearl clutching yeah and ringing they're the worst i mean you have one mike lindell and and his company they really i will say decimated in the sense of the word as in maybe 10 20 percent they have they have hurt his business and he was like the go-to guy squarespace is not going to step up for anybody you know the the any mattress company is not going to step up for anybody they can be like okay it's a little too hot here i've got politicians yelling at me and the washington post this is true i mean, when you hear this, have you seen what happened? You know, Dave Portnoy from Barstool Sports. I listened to Portnoy talking to the reporter.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Yes. Condemning her, this woman Heil. And she was just like the weenie of the decade going on. Well, how you doing? And yeah, Portnoy is a target because he's a huge moneymaker. Well, the problem is, and I have a little bit of that conversation, because what the Washington Post reporter did, because he's doing something called the Pizza Fest, whatever. sponsors and the washington post to to mess with him writes emails and this is this is tabloid journalism i've been through this exact thing they don't interview portnoy they go to his sponsors and say well how do you feel about uh sponsoring an event with a known misogynist
Starting point is 01:16:00 what what is the washington post they use the word misgenic, which is slightly different than a misogynist. What is misgenic? It means you have a general distrust of women. Oh, is there an actual... Not a hatred, but yes, there's an actual word. Misgenic? Not a hatred, but a mistrust. Because I was looking, because I thought he was just mispronouncing the word. No, no, that's a real word. Misgenic. Huh. Isn't that misgenic?
Starting point is 01:16:32 Okay. Well, just listen to a little bit because he calls her out on it. She lies. And this is very typical, very typical of how today's journalism is run, which is complete gutter tabloid journalism. This is how they do it.
Starting point is 01:16:49 This is Emily. Hey, Emily, this is Dave Portnoy calling. I'm recording you right now, but I've noticed a bunch of people, it seems like you're sending, we have this pizza fest happening on Saturday and you're reaching out to our advertisers and you're basically sending to our advertisers and you're
Starting point is 01:17:05 basically sending an email that says to the effect dave's a misogynic racist do you want to defend yourselves advertising at this event right i'm sorry what's your name dave i'm sorry who are you i'm the guy you're writing the article about dave portland oh you're dave portland oh hey how are you good hey good no i'm not i haven't said anything like that i'm well i i can i can read if you want if you want i can read what you actually sent i have can you actually find miss jenik in the dictionary i can't find it i found it i'll get you i'll spell it for you spell funny oh okay But by the way, right there is an important point because he harps on this. She says, no, I didn't write anything like that.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Yeah, lie. A lie. And it's a lie because then he reads from her. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was just one note. Her reasoning is even better. She's great.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I haven't said anything like that. Well, I can read if you want. If you want, I can read what you actually sent. I have it. Yeah, because I sent a bunch of notes, so I want to make sure I know. I sent a bunch of notes because, you know, I'm a journalist from the WAPO. I'm above everything and everybody else. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:18 We are planning to write about the festival and how some of the sponsors and participants have drawn criticism by seemingly to associate themselves with dave portnoy who has a history of misogynic comments and other problematic behavior i want to make sure that blank had a chance to respond to this since the company is the most prominent and their partners of his festival oh that's the one i sent which was definitely the most pointed of them because I really did want them to respond and I was hoping to get something from them. That's what tabloid journalists do. Oh, I wanted to get them all riled up. Yeah. I wanted to respond.
Starting point is 01:18:55 That's why it was pointed. Because I really did want them to respond and I was hoping to get something from them. Do you think that's fair? I totally disagree with the assertions of what you said that misogynic and all that stuff so like it kind of backs people into a corner so i'm happy to go over anything i mean you have that is pretty pointed you said you didn't do it then i have the exact evidence of you doing it so i didn't say i didn't do that i said i did that was the one that was the most popular.
Starting point is 01:19:26 That's the lie. We just heard her say she didn't do it. Before I provided proof, you said you didn't really remember doing that. And then I read it to you and you're like, oh, yeah, I did it that one time. So you did do it. I'm happy to talk about the comments because to me, it's kind of like torturous interference. Like we're doing an event. Everyone's happy about the event.
Starting point is 01:19:47 I've raided $50 million for small business. I've held pizzas. None of that. It's misogynic and problematic. And I'm happy to talk about it. Because to me, nobody would like if someone's going around sending that email to their sponsors. And again, you're not questioning. It's almost like a statement of fact.
Starting point is 01:20:03 This is what I am. Yeah. So I do want to talk to you about this when were you going to reach out we were planning to do it tomorrow morning and what they will do tomorrow morning is um so we've talked a whole bunch of sponsors they say you're you're misgenic whatever that means um we need you to respond we have a 1 p.m deadline that's how it works but um so you're gonna write the article and then give me like i've had that a bunch people write a full article and then give me the points after no we're doing a bunch of reporting and we wanted to make sure that when we finally did talk to you
Starting point is 01:20:35 we could really kind of present what you know or talk about things more fully more fully like what what what interests me is she really thinks she's doing her job she thinks she is doing journalism she truly believes this is right this is righteous you're a dick we know it's true she she really is sincere is the word you're looking for thank you sincere what you know or talk about things more. This guy's like this. This guy's like this. You know that. OK, she comes in and then she's starting to, you know, these trying to bully her. But she's righteous. She's righteous. Righteous. Like what?
Starting point is 01:21:19 Like, it sounds like you have your opinion made to me based on that email. So, look, I just want you to know that this is – I want to talk to you about – A little laugh in there. Oh, God, this guy. No, no. Uh-uh. So, look, I just want you to know that this is – I want to talk to you about this, but – Don't you think you should talk to me before sending that email? What I wanted to do is I wanted to talk to you when we had some specific questions
Starting point is 01:21:47 for you and so i wanted to kind of have the full idea of what we're that's not a full idea that's how you do journalism these days they're going after advertisers that's my that's the bottom line they're going to go after everybody's advertisers. Google is backing them. Google wants TikTok out. Google wants Rumble out. Rumble is apparently some force that they're worried about. And in today's extreme down market, they will help. I have no doubt that meta platforms will help. What can we do? Well, first, just pull the plug. Okay, we've deplatformed, but we don't really want to take them off because that'll start a ground.
Starting point is 01:22:30 So no, don't worry about it. Just no money for you, brand. Okay, now we have to go to the other platforms. They're going to go after all of them and they will succeed. Advertisers will walk away from this. Yeah, most of them will. advertisers will walk away from this. Yeah. Most of them will.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Well, not enough will stay to make it work. No, it won't make it. The ones that stay will be stretched too thin because everybody will want their help. You know, in a funny way. It's what you do. It works. In a funny way.
Starting point is 01:23:03 The only way, the only way is RSS. Everybody needs their own feed creator and aggregator. We have to go back to technology from 20 years ago. It's all going to come tumbling down. And this is why we're who we are. It's who we are. You know, value for value. We got hairy legs.
Starting point is 01:23:28 We got hairy legs. Oh, man. Well, before we end the whole thing about broadcasting and the old media, I dug up a clip from 1961. Ooh. In the early days of our show, 1961. I remember them well. My dad's telescope, yes.
Starting point is 01:23:56 This is a famous, there's an archive of all these great speeches, and I found this guy, Norman Minow, who was the head of the fcc in 1961 and this was his vast wasteland speech and he was uh giving a uh a talk to uh the uh nab which was national association of broadcasters and so so this is 1961, him complaining about the broadcast, about TV, mainly. He was just bitching about TV. And this is, what, 62 years ago. And I would like to play this and ask people if anything's really changed. But when television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite each of you to sit down in front of your own television set when your station goes on the air
Starting point is 01:24:49 and stay there for a day without a book, without a magazine, without a newspaper, without a profit and loss sheet or a rating book to distract you. Keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that what you will observe is a vast wasteland. You will see a procession of game shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence and cartoons,
Starting point is 01:25:24 and endlessly commercials, many screaming, casters, more violence in cartoons. And endlessly commercials, many screaming, cajoling, and offending. And most of all, boredom. True, you'll see a few things you will enjoy, but they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, I only ask you to try it. Is there one person in this room who claims that broadcasting can't do better? That's a good clip to bring back. An evergreen for sure.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Yeah. And the same as the doom scrolling on social media. It's exactly the same. Well, we have one thing wasn't in that clip. Men dress as women when women dress as men. They didn't have that as much back then in 1961. Yeah, they had quite a bit of it, actually. Milton Berle was always coming out as a woman. Oh, well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Nothing has changed. And even during the 60s, when you had the guy in the MASH TV sitcom who's always dressed as a woman. Ah, Klinger. Klinger. Klinger, yes. You're right.
Starting point is 01:26:25 You're right. Nothing's really new. Well, the only thing that's new is the collapse of M5M, CNN. Their total viewers for their weekend slate of shows, including State of the Union with Jake Tapper, Dana Bash and Fareed Zakaria. Each show, how many viewers do you think each show
Starting point is 01:26:50 polled this weekend on CNN? So they got more than the asterisk. I don't have a rating number. I have a total view number for them. Okay, well, if they have a number, it means it was beyond the... I would say 50,000 each. Ooh, 55,000. Very close.. Ooh, 55,000.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Very close. Very close. 55,000. Yeah. Now, MTV Video Music Awards. It's highest rated in three years among the 18 to 49 demographic. What rating point do you think they scored? Highest in three years?
Starting point is 01:27:24 They got a two. No, 1.03. Oh, geez. 800,000 people in total tuned in to watch the award show on MTV. That's failure. That's failure. Now, of course, their big number is we have 1.8 billion minutes consumed. Yeah, this is the latest.
Starting point is 01:27:49 I love this, by the way. Whoa, what advertising. You know who's eating everybody's lunch? There's only one company that is really winning with advertising, and that's Amazon. Because Amazon has an advertising network that they can tie back to direct purchases of the product. Amazon is kicking everybody's ass. And they're beside themselves. They don't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:28:15 And it's collapsing. So, more reason to support your Value for Value podcast. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea and carving up ukraine ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end his excellency the honorable john c well uh in the morning to you excellency in the morning all ships see boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the games and nights out there in the morning to you excellency in the morning to the trolls in the troll room.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Let's have a count their hands. Okay. 2095, 2095. Uh, we are down. We are down, but we're not out. Isn't that me?
Starting point is 01:28:59 We're down. It's Thursday. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm confused. It's up. We're up. We're winning. We're winning 200 trolls more than we expected. Hello, trolls. Thank you very much. Would you like to be a troll?
Starting point is 01:29:14 Everybody likes being a troll. You can be a troll by going to trollroom.io. It's a webpage right there. You can log into the troll room. You can listen to no agenda stream, which we capture and use live on Thursdays and Sundays. Of course, it's 24 hours a day. Use a modern podcast app at newpodcastapps.com. Get an alert from Podcast Attic, from Fountain, from Podverse. You can drop right into the chat room. You can listen to the stream live live you can listen to all of your podcasts there and because it's rss based and not part of some platform there's no deplatforming there's no way they can kick us off they have to they have to literally go to void zero and chop his head off that's not going to happen anytime soon and you won't be able to find him and for and i hate to say it but there'll be more void zeros who pop up.
Starting point is 01:30:06 They cannot stop you. They cannot stop you when you're decentralized. Now, what also seems to be working quite well is our Mastodon server. I mean, no one else can really see it unless you have your own Mastodon or have a friendly Mastodon server or are lucky enough to be one of the 10,000. or have a friendly Mastodon server or are lucky enough to be one of the 10,000, that's noagendasocial.com, where, I mean, none of that stuff is monetizable. And guess what?
Starting point is 01:30:31 There's no monetizing. It's just there for trolls to muck about. You can follow Adam at noagendasocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com, and troll around to your heart's content there. There's often good things there. I noticed the memes have slowed down. I think my campaign worked.
Starting point is 01:30:50 No, I think the memes have slowed down. The memes are just no good. So there's no advertisers to go after, which of course means the news agents will never talk about us, which means we don't get that mass market appeal. But that is so 2010 to be number one of something, to be on the homepage of iTunes. We need discovery mechanisms.
Starting point is 01:31:15 No, no, no. Trolls, you are the discovery mechanism. You go out, you hit people in the mouth, you tell them about the show. And we give this value to you completely free of charge there's no levels no premium content they won't have to listen through advertisements all we ask for is that you send some value back actually the the value i appreciate the most although it doesn't pay the bills but what i appreciate is when people say hey you guys really save my butt
Starting point is 01:31:42 you know don't you love that when people say that? Yeah, it's pretty funny. I always like it. It's like, hey, you know, without you guys, dot, dot, dot. I'd be dead. Some people have said that. Basically, I'd be dead. Some people have said that.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Or I would be in a worse situation, or I wouldn't have kept my eyes out for this. That's the kind of value in the time, talent, and treasure that we like so much. We also appreciate people doing things, creating jingles, boots on the ground reports, clips. We have so many people who do so much for us. And it's the only way that it works because we don't have rumble money. We just don't have brand money. No, instead, you bring it to us.
Starting point is 01:32:24 You help us do that as producers. No one here is a listener. You are only a producer of the best podcast in the universe. Now, typically, we get a lot of value from our artists. And I would say it's only once in a blue moon. Unfortunately, I jinxed it by talking about it. We had to resort to an evergreen for the artwork for episode 1591 titled Half Jacked. That's hyphenated. I think it's interesting that Paul Couture took the evergreen and put it on the right page in the section for the art. Well, because he's providing tremendous value with the noagendaartgenerator.com service. I mean, there's no denying that.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Space Cat had done this a while back. I'm going to say that might have been during Valentine Day? Uh, yeah. But maybe two years ago. That long ago? That is an old piece.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Uh, let me see. It's possible. No, because SpaceCat hasn't started submitting since May 1st, 2022. So, no, I don't think it's that long. But it was last February then. But we could not. Okay, here's the main thing. I go to the noagendaartgenerator.com webpage.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Now, when you go to noagendaartgenerator.com, the first thing you see is the standing, the ranking, which is fun. There's important updates, all kinds of information. Then you go into submitted art. The past couple of months, the minute I see this page, all I see is AI. Now, it's not all AI, but the majority is just people sitting at home doing AI stuff. Mostly AI. Mostly.
Starting point is 01:34:12 And it's boring. I mean, we looked at this. Well, you have a theory that you. I do? Or we both have the theory, which is that. No, I think this is yours. The AI is keeping real artists from submitting anything. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Because people see some beautiful piece and think, Oh, I mean, they're well done, but they're not, they're not winners. They don't have the X factor by far. I mean,
Starting point is 01:34:40 it was so bad. You went like, yeah, how about that? No agenda target logo from Dirty Jersey? That's the one I picked for the newsletter. That was the best one. Yeah, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I just thought it was so plain. I mean, can we have something? Yeah, it was dull. It was like a classic evergreen type piece of art that just doesn't say anything. It doesn't have anything. I don't know. But the giveaway. We talked about archery.
Starting point is 01:35:06 It would make more sense. But it was pretty. The giveaway is when people take a picture of a person and then, you know, like, do this with Russell Brand! You know, they're telling AI what to do now um gus not scafia scafa skifa he is not doing ai but he's doing a style that we already did once and we even told them like this is called surfer magazine art yeah it's like once in a blue moon we'll do that but you know we just did a piece like this yeah it's also like it's kind of surfer magazine art to cross dressing with uh kind of a kidnapping note yeah and it's not bad but it's no it's nice but it's not we're not going
Starting point is 01:35:55 to pick this for another for a year exactly it's too stylized exactly it would be like picking a cheesecake every single show. Right. And also... And we don't do that. I mean, we talk a big game, but we don't do it. All the stuff that has hippy-dippy colors. Like, we know what you're doing, but it's crowding out the true artists. And I think it's been a severe degradation.
Starting point is 01:36:22 And I think, yes, just look at the names where are our classic artists well sir net ned gave it a try but you know just didn't quite hit it with the no agenda lifesavers although i understand what he's trying to do then what date you know like we're lifesavers but it's just like i don't know is that what that was 33 flavors, but it's just like, eh. I don't know what that was. 33 flavors. You know, it's been kind of done. And then Dame Kenny Ben, outstanding artist, shows us a butt. Does she really think we're going to put a butt as artwork? I didn't even look at who did that.
Starting point is 01:36:59 I just assumed. Dame Kenny Ben. She's good. I just assumed it was Comic Strip Blogger. Well, Comic Strip Blogger should be banned. Look at what he's he's all it's all comic strip blogger all the Russell Brand stuff
Starting point is 01:37:10 and I think that pollutes it and people go like whatever I'll you know they'll never see the subtlety of my beautiful art you're saying comic strip blogger
Starting point is 01:37:18 is a polluter he's a he's an art polluter yeah yes he's an art polluter contact yeah no this was a bad selection it was it was i do have it just wasn't any good i do have a follow-up for our donation segment you
Starting point is 01:37:35 know correct the record you know also the you know the the something something topic for dummies books we've also done that so many times so he said contacting the irs for dummies it was it was a chuckle um but yes we've done way too many dummies books and that wasn't one of the best presentations of it i had a follow-up from the our producers who uh were had been targeted by the the irs uh ai system and they just wanted to say uh of course i've you can get a hold of the irs of course you get a hold of someone but this is a part of their automated under reporter system which is a real thing i have certainly talked to people at the irs they literally cannot help you first they don't even appear to understand basic accounting. They cannot and will not put me in touch with the department that runs the system.
Starting point is 01:38:29 All they are authorized to do is put a note in the account and hope that someone in the office in Philly reads the note. Even if I went down to the nearest IRS office, they are powerless to do anything about the case because it resides within the AUR department, where you can only interface through the mail. Mailing them documents, which I've sent them two boxes, seems to result in them not reading the document, sending me another letter saying, I owe 10 times my annual revenue in taxes. So there is frustration, and I got a lot of people with similar problems. Time to talk to your congressman. Yeah, that guy from Texas.
Starting point is 01:39:06 That guy from Texas is the go-to guy. That's the guy you want. Yes, and your congressman should be doing something about it, for sure. So while it was a best of, evergreen, we do want to thank Space Cat.
Starting point is 01:39:26 And we look forward to... Let me see what we have now. Let me just take a... Looks like people are doing some more creative stuff here. For today. But Comicster Blogger polluting again. Polluting. Polluting.
Starting point is 01:39:39 He's a polluter. Love him. But what a polluter. So we'll see. We'll see what... We like the concepts we like when people do smart things you know when people look at the art and go oh man that makes so much sense oh that's funny i can't wait to hear that episode that's what we're looking for wouldn't you say yep i would say that's probably as a summary as good as summaries go all right so
Starting point is 01:40:06 we'll see how they do for today's episode but thank you everyone who tried thank you comics your blogger for trying but try and limit it you know limit it to something your best piece yeah one good one yeah one good one now don't when you do three russell brands that tells me you're just like hitting the regenerate you know i have stuff. I got it running at home now. I find I got AI. I got I got 11 large language models. They all they all suck. So what are you using it to write or what are you using it for?
Starting point is 01:40:38 You can use it for art. I have one for a model for creating art. So I did like, you know, what is it? What brand? Yeah, well, the name of the model i would have to give you it's not a brand so i have all the land somebody's got to do the software it has to have a company name no it doesn't no that's not you just have a big database it's just sitting there random no you have the the large language model you have the large model and these are all open source.
Starting point is 01:41:06 I've told you, they open source all of this, which is why it's a joke. No, let me tell you which ones we have. We have the Mytho Max L213B. That one seems to be reasonable, but it's all horrible here. We've got the Neuse Hermes Llama 2. We've got the Hermes Llama 2.7b here the news hermes llama 2 we've got the hermes llama 2 7b the dolphin llama 2 7b samantha 1 1 llama 7b code llama 7b instruct marks 3b v2 griffin 3b john it all is lame it sucks it's no better than lisp and c++ this it's not it's not outstanding it's it's a big scam it doesn't work well
Starting point is 01:41:48 the only you know what it does it actually if you say find something in scripture about this topic it does a pretty decent job because they're biblical yeah i mean there's so many there's so much written so many bibles that are available open source it's kind of an open source product um that a lot of them aren't you know what i mean it works that works pretty well but everything else it it lies it hallucinates it's just wrong it's wrong and if you have it write something oh my god any professional writer rolls their eyes at this flowery language. I like that. Having to write wine reviews would probably do the job of these wine reviewers that like to go on and on and on about weird stuff.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Oh, that's a good idea. I'll do a wine review with my AI and I'll read it to you on the next show. I'm sure it'll be a winner. i'm sure you'll laugh your ass off and we have some ai stuff coming up later but first let's thank the people who brought us the treasure in our value for value model which means we get to pay some bills we kick it off with our top executive producer paso robles no i'm sorry that's the town we kick it off off with James Jackson from Paso Robles, California. $1,000, instant night. What is going on here?
Starting point is 01:43:09 There's no note. I have no note from him. I got no note. Hold on, let me see. I think Jay sent something. I don't know. She talked about David in the next one. So we have nothing from him?
Starting point is 01:43:20 No, we got nothing. Oh, man, send us a note. Let us know. In the meantime, thank you very much. Here's a double karma. Double up. We've got... Double up.
Starting point is 01:43:28 Karma. So we end up with David from Scottsdale, Arizona. There's a note about him. She made it. It was calling it line two. It was line two on her sheet. Adam and John, thanks for what you do. I noticed that 100 shows have already passed since my last donation, $14.92. Columbus sailed the ocean
Starting point is 01:43:50 blue. I thought I'd better write a note this time because last time John kept calling out repeatedly, is David there? Do we have a note from David? Hello, David? Yes, David? Well, if that technique generates $1,000, I should do it more often. This should make me a baronet, and I'll investigate getting my ring. So Jay's going to knight him first and then upgrade him. Okay, all right, so we do knighting. So do the knighting before the upgrade. You got it, so we reverse the order. No jingles and stuff.
Starting point is 01:44:24 Thanks, David from Scottsdale. P.S. I have a slightly used F-35 I'm trying to sell if you know anyone interested. I said, why the hell is this? Anyway, he came in with $1,000. Thank you, David. Mark Minitaglio. Minitaglio. Mark Minitaglio.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Corpus Christi, Texas. Just a bit down the road 333.33 i asked you to dedouche me on my first donation so i have nothing else to say oh i love that mark thank you that's a perfect note good love it this came in as his first donation you've been ded-Dushed. Chris Osterhus in Cincinnati, Ohio. I'm sure it's pronounced slightly differently. No jingles, no karma.
Starting point is 01:45:13 That's nice. This is a Bar-Mo-N-A donation. Barnhard to Mo Facts and No Agenda. Mo Savage 45 episodes of Must Listen. Red slash blue tie Trump. Well, that's old. The red tie is supposed to be, this is what I forgot, I don't know if Mo mentions this, but
Starting point is 01:45:33 it was, now I think he's defunct or passed away comedian whose name is eluding me, black guy. They said the red tie Trump was the real Trump, the other one was the second, which brought me to my second best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 01:45:51 As a traditional Latin mass Catholic, Ann's podcasts are Catholic moonshine and eternally relevant. Any show with Nurse Claire or Dr. Beep are certainly medically relevant. I've always looked for Dr. Beep are certainly medically relevant. I've always looked for Dr. Beep. Chris Overhues in Cincinnati, Ohio. It's 33333. Barnhart Donation.
Starting point is 01:46:15 We'll give him that. Because it started with a barnhart. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. It's on the tip of my tongue. I can't remember it either. It'll come to me. Surtar Hill is in Leland, North Carolina. 333.33. John and Adam, I have been
Starting point is 01:46:29 on a month sub for 10 years at $10. I have had numerous 33 triggers lately, reminding me to kick in some executive producer love. After getting back to 33 and 133. Dick Gregory. Dick Gregory. thank you.
Starting point is 01:46:46 He may still be alive. I don't know. I don't think so. After getting back to 33 and 133 order number post-it notes from Culver's drive-thru, I had to pitch in. This also bumps me to Baronet. I would like an F cancer and retirement karma. After 23 years with the largest dredging company in the U.S., I need to spend more time with my family,
Starting point is 01:47:08 following multiple friends and colleagues, dropping dead from cancer and or massive heart attacks. That's not good. Well, you know what? You got to stay active. When you retire, that's the trick. Yeah, no puttering. Immediately start doing something active.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Luckily, I was able to get by with forced J&J instead of mRNA. They see he's pointing the finger. My best friend just dropped dead from stage four colon cancer at 49. Then within weeks, my grandfather died from a sudden onset stage four bone cancer in his spine. Not sure how many people have to drop dead around us from heart attacks and turbo cancer before someone has to answer for it. Thank you. Never 20 years from now. Thank you for all your deconstructions over the years and look forward to
Starting point is 01:47:53 more sanity inducing hours of content. Uh, add a JCD, donate, donate, uh, ghostly version. Yes,
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Starting point is 01:48:29 Anonymous Spirit of the Northwoods here. Been too long since the last donation, but a birthday switcheroo for my first human resource, the Barbarista. Hold on a second. Just let me put that in here. The Barbarista. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:43 All right. The Barbarista has been switcherooed. It's as good a reason as any. Add him to the birthday list as he turned 28 on the 17th. The switch, what are you drinking? I've gone to, since it was on sale at Costco, Topo Chico. Oh, a Texas favorite. Topo Chico is da bomb.
Starting point is 01:49:02 It's overcarbonated. That's why we like it. We like to burp a lot. Yeah, it makes you burp a lot. It's too, it's over carbonated. That's why we like it. We like to burp a lot. Yeah, it makes you burp a lot. It does. You know, it's like people will come into our house and say, you want something to drink? And you say, you want some water? Yeah, you got Topo? Topo, please.
Starting point is 01:49:18 We call it a Topo. Yeah, I bet you do. Don't call it a Topo. This switcheroo takes him two thirds of the way to knighthood and if he cracks open his wallet and spend some of that tax-free tip money he could get his title and ring before me the competition is on been really wanting to send the boots on the ground regarding working for a euro company in the u.s and all the wokeness and aggressive venture capital lean management craziness that abounds oh boots on the. You guys are spot on in terms of your take
Starting point is 01:49:45 on the Japanese lean management stuff. And it's interesting to see how they've turned it from a tool to flip a company into a tool to squeeze the last drops of blood out of US companies as interest rates rise, service on debt squeezes, and M&A opportunities subside. Yep, it's all over. There you go.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Now is likely the worst time in all of history to work for a large corporation, and I feel bad for the young people because I see it getting a lot worse before it gets better. Glad I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Well, you kind of contradict yourself there. Thanks for all you do. No jingles, but jobs, Karma, because I
Starting point is 01:50:20 hate mine. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You suck, Karma. I'm sorry. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. I'm sorry. I forgot the F cancer for Sir Tar Heel. Let me do that. Stop it.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. You've got karma. I think by light at the end of the tunnel, it meant he's going to quit. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's going to quit. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's quitting his job?
Starting point is 01:50:49 Yeah, that's my guess. Matthew Grisham's up next, and he's in Zephyrhills, Florida. Yes. Interesting. Yeah, this is the Star Hill Hemp guys. Oh, yes. Thank you for an amazing shout-out for the crew here at Star Hill Hemp guys. Oh, yes. Thank you for an amazing shout out for the crew here at Star Hill Hemp. We also want to thank the Gitmo Nation for all your support. The influx of orders with the ITM33 promo code has been very uplifting.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Along with our amazing gummies, we have been concocting something else here in the lab. A scheme to ruin your exit plan. Okay. All right. How's that going to work? For those that stick around for the donation segment, we will change the promo code to Duckit22. That's Duckit with a D.
Starting point is 01:51:41 D-U-C-K-I-T-22 with a 22% discount for those that don't too bad. In keeping with the spirit of 33, an extra 11% of the undiscounted price of every sale will be sent to the best podcast in the world. Oh, there you go. Or the universe, sorry.
Starting point is 01:51:59 That's going to keep us from an exit strategy. We got to chew a lot of gummies. Shortly. Got to chew a lot of gummies. got to chew a lot of gummies. We've got to chew a lot of gummies. We've got to sell a lot of gummies. It is fine to mention our Kratom nano
Starting point is 01:52:11 gummies. We only need to exercise caution on the transaction, so we are in the process of listing them on StarHillHemp.com. Anyone may ask for them directly by emailing us at info at StarHillHemp.com. Anyone may ask for them directly by emailing us at info at starhillhemp.com. And we will set up a straw purchase.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. This doesn't sound legal. It doesn't sound, I don't know. I don't like it. Can we get some sales, Karma? Yeah, we can give you that. Yeah, yeah, no problem. That's legal.
Starting point is 01:52:41 We can do that for you. You've got karma. What is it? Yeah, no problem. That's legal. We can do that for you. You've got karma. What is it? Kratom nanogummies activated by the emergency broadcast system, no doubt. Sir Sonder is in Zandam, 333. Triple make it rain donation with special greetings to Bambi. I miss her.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I miss her, he says. For the best podcast in the universe, XX Sir Sander from Zandum, the Duke of Switzerland. Thank you. Thank you very much, Sir Sander. Sir Mr. Bob Dobalina. Bob Dobalina in San Diego, California. Bob Dobalina.
Starting point is 01:53:18 It's Dobalina. John, I sent an email regarding Nashville's town hall regarding guns as public health emergency and infectious disease. Yes, I did get email regarding Nashville's town hall regarding guns as public health emergency and infectious disease. Yes, I did get that. It's very interesting. And a new report that calls human remains found at Catholic schools in Canada a hoax. Be well, guys. Now, I will mention this. You remember that story from a few years back? I should read this email. I have to dig it up. I'll maybe read it later. have to dig it up i'll maybe read it later uh that you know they found the catholic uh bunch of catholic schools had a bunch of dead native uh native canadians you know indigenous canadians
Starting point is 01:53:51 they found them they dug them up the pope came over and everyone's apologizing left and right well now it turns out to be a complete hoax including so the Pope got hoaxed. Everybody got hoaxed, a Pope hoax. And so they, uh, then no one's covering this part of it, of the hoax, because it's like,
Starting point is 01:54:11 Oh geez, we got embarrassed because everyone's all over. This gets burned. The Catholics, because they kill these kids. It's all bull crap. Well, who did,
Starting point is 01:54:23 who, who, who came up with the hoax there were never bones there in the first place he says it was all a phony determination by ground penetrating radar oh even better send me a copy of that
Starting point is 01:54:36 I want to read that I'll send it to you if I dig it up I'll read it on the show later by the way this is great for the donation segment this really spices up the whole program. Appreciate that, Mr. Bob Dabolina. Lee is in Green Bay, Wisconsin, 223.23. He's our first associate executive producer.
Starting point is 01:54:56 And this donation qualifies him for Knighthood, he says. I wish to be dubbed Sir Vicks of the Long Position. I guess he invests in the VIX. Is that an ETF, the VIX? Is that what that's called? No, no. Well, it's kind of the VIX is really just a creation. It's a creation that reflects volatility in the market.
Starting point is 01:55:19 So it doesn't even exist. It's like Bitcoin. It's kind of just like Bitcoin. It's just like Bitcoin. Thank you for clearing that exist. It's like Bitcoin. It's kind of just like Bitcoin. It's just like Bitcoin. Thank you for clearing that up. It's very similar. How is Bitcoin, how is the VIX different from money? Doesn't money not exist either?
Starting point is 01:55:36 I mean, isn't that just... I can hold a bill I don't want to put in my mouth. She said. Okay. Hey. Okay. Hey. Hey. Anyone? Venison and Vermox?
Starting point is 01:55:51 What's Vermox? I don't know what Vermox is. I have no idea. Vermouth, I know, but Vermox? Venison? I believe you. Well, we'll taste it later. That'll be at the round table for you.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Hope to see everybody at the Green Bay meetup this Saturday at Jill's Bar's bar 3 p.m note forthcoming we look forward to it lee thank you carl nagel in hampstead north carolina 201 64 about my magic number it's the cash back from my credit card that i never use oh how does that work for everyone out there with a credit card that I never use. Oh, how does that work for everyone out there with a credit card? That's just sitting out there with money on it. I bet there's tons of listeners with balances who could elevate themselves to the level of not a douche bag like me. I'm in North Carolina, not California.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Love the show. Does, does Carl need a, a dedouching for this? I think he does. You've been dedouched. And Nathan Rottier. Rottier.
Starting point is 01:56:52 In Eureka River, Alberta, Scandinavia 200, in the morning from the lamb that doesn't burn books. Adam, here's something you can refill your biscuit tin. John, the Obama clip was yuck. Thank you both for making the news digestible and forgive me for pod stealing. That means that dedouching is no longer a pod thief.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Thank you for your courage. You've been dedouched. And last on our list is Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado. She was Jobs Carmen for a resume that gets results. Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com. Or just find Linda Lou Patkin under the show's producer list.
Starting point is 01:57:37 Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got it. Yay. Come on. These are the executive and associate executive producers of the best podcast in the universe, episode 1,592. We appreciate everything that you do, and these credits are, of course, completely legal,
Starting point is 01:57:59 legit, and can be used anywhere credits are recognized. If you want to learn more how to become an executive or associate executive producer of the No Agenda Show, go here. vorac.org slash NA. And John's going to take us through to the 50s, and we'll get into our meetups and more. Second half on the way, too. And before I do that, I want to thank Sir Pentangelini and Renegade
Starting point is 01:58:22 for sending me the automata automata whatever it's called oh before noisemaker that will be these batteries and i need to thank our um our knight from the wood from the uh the wooden watches what's his name hold on a second let me get it he sent it to me john i have um axe head watches you know he's Sir Mike Sir Mike the liberator of MI10 he sent me the Carmopoly game oh I want a copy of this
Starting point is 01:58:54 this is the only one in existence he sent you the prototype he sent me the prototype it's hilarious I think he should restart the crowdfund why crowdfund people would pay money for this give a piece of it to the show it is a hilarious you want to try to raise twenty thousand dollars it's you know that's a that's a that's a hard one for crowdfunding
Starting point is 01:59:16 it is i mean he's got everything in there tina and i are going to play it with some friends it is it is i, it's just Monopoly only no agenda style. It is a dynamite piece of work. He put a lot of work into this. And, not only that, but the demo version, this first print up he got has a typo.
Starting point is 01:59:37 So it's a complete collector's item. What's the typo? I couldn't find it, but he says it's out there somewhere. He says it's a typo. I haven't been able to but he says it's out there somewhere. He says it's a typo. I haven't been able to find it. It's just a beautiful piece of work. I mean, please, Sir Mike. What does a Monopoly game normally sell for?
Starting point is 01:59:58 I don't know. Let's look it up. We can consult the Book of Knowledge or consult the Book of Amazon. Yeah, well, why don't you consult the book of... Also, someone else sent me... Well, I'll read these things and then you look at the price for the game because it would be interesting if you could bootstrap it. Okay. All right, we're just going to start with some people starting with Alan Bowes in Langley, B.C., $178.08.
Starting point is 02:00:25 I'll give you some karma at the end. Jason Bibble in Austin, Texas, $1.2012. Dan Maley in Fremont, California, $1.13. Aaron Lundquist in Sebring, Florida, $1.101. Melissa Reeve in Winchester, Virginia, $1.100. Then I got some notes. These people need dedouchings. Priscilla, let me make sure we got this right.
Starting point is 02:00:53 These are checks that came in with cute little notes. These from a meetup or something? Must be. No, these are just checks that came in the mail. Oh, okay. And Priscilla wrote a long note on a card. I love the show. We've enjoyed it for years.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Please do a quick check. Blah, blah, blah. I'll have to check on this. Okay, she doesn't need the dedouching. But, and she came in with $100. Edsel Baker came in with $100, he needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. By the way, a Monopoly game,
Starting point is 02:01:31 cheap jack, like just something, you know, like, okay, I'm playing the game but it's just cheap, is about $34 for a nice old school Monopoly game up to luxury edition board $ two 79. Yikes.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Well, I mean, it's a luxury. It's beautiful. But it's luxury. I mean, you get a blow job when you buy it. Correct.
Starting point is 02:01:54 How did you know? Right from Amazon. Oh, it's a, it's like a wooden, a beautiful wooden piece. And it's got, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:02 you put the, it's has a sunken middle you know so so you can see the the dice when you roll them they say the cards are all in the middle please but the monopoly the classic edition 34 and then and then i've got the cheap the cheapo you know modern edition which may not even have the the hat and everything i don't know what they have them run off in china and get them printed up for next to nothing. John, Jason Guile is also in for 100 bucks, and he needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched.
Starting point is 02:02:35 I assume he's on the birthday list. Just shout out to Jason Guile. I'm going to say this is from Rachel. Rachel. No, I'm going to put it on right now. This is probably a switcheroo, so we'll give it credit to Jason. Wait, hold on. So from Rachel to?
Starting point is 02:02:49 Jason. It's a birthday? You said birthday. I didn't have a date. Okay, from Rachel to Jason. Okay. All right. Onward with Aaron Lewis in Ashburn, Virginia.
Starting point is 02:03:05 90-24. Happy one-year anniversary to my smoking hot hubby, Kyle. There you go. Oh, want to de-douche him. She will remain a douchebag. You've been de-douched. That's 90-24. Brian Lillard in Prosper, Texas.
Starting point is 02:03:24 8-8-8-8. Carson Brown in Prosper, Texas, 8888. Carson Brown in Staten, Oregon, 81, needs a deduces. You've been deduced. Then we get down to Kevin McLaughlin is in Concord, North Carolina, with his classic boob donation of 8-0-0-8, promoting the Kiss Melon. The Kiss Melon. It's got a big tongue that comes out of it. Richard White in Middleton, Connecticut, 7105.
Starting point is 02:03:52 And this is a switcheroo for his awesome wife, Joey in the Woods from Corporate Hamster, and a de-douching is needed. You've been de-douched. Good old Sir Rick in Arlington, Washingtonhington 6996 rita harrington sparks nevada 6633 uh stephen nearing in houston texas 6333 uh sir kevin o'brien in chicago illinois 6006 small boobs and ke and Kevin McLaughlin's back. Don't know how long this is going to continue.
Starting point is 02:04:29 6-0-0-6, but this time he's promoting the papaya melon. How long will he be able to come up with melon names? I don't know how many more melons there are in the world. are in the world. David Jarman in North, in the North Southwest, is in Australia. He's 57.
Starting point is 02:04:54 I'm getting confused. 57. Dean Roker in 5510. Jake Marlott, M-A-L-L-O-T-T, Mallott in Bellevue, Illinois. Mallot, Mallot. He even has a pronunciation. Mallot, yeah, he's got it.
Starting point is 02:05:08 A lot. Grimes with a lot. Mallot. Mallot, Mallot. Mallot. Alton Poop. I'm sorry, Alton Pop in Trenton, Michigan, 53. Timothy Witt-Evan in Pasco, Michigan, 53. Timothy Witt-Evan,
Starting point is 02:05:26 in Pasco, Washington, 53. Happy birthday. You're on the list, buddy. You know, if the No Agenda Carmopoly came with a blowjob, people might crowdfund it for 20 grand. I'm just saying. Is that a joke you just got now?
Starting point is 02:05:43 I just added it. It just came up. Build up for the... Yeah, okay. Sorry. I'm sorry. You're the funny man around here. Yes, timing is everything.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Baron Henry and Rancho Palos Verdes, 52-42. Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, 50-05. And here we go. We have a lot of $50 donors today. That's great. Starting with Marcel... Okay. Let me...
Starting point is 02:06:08 Mijder... Meider... Meider... Meiderweik. There you go. Meiderweik. Very good. In Gouda.
Starting point is 02:06:15 He's in Gouda. Gouda. Gouda. Well, Gouda is the way we pronounce it. It's a cheese... One of the cheese cities there in Holland. Cheese and candles. Oh, I didn't know the candles part.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Oh, yeah. Big candles. Luke Olson, Alexandria, Virginia. Gadget Freak Tan in Western Springs, Illinois. Alexandra Verdejo in Gig Harbor, Washington. Corey Bennett in Denver, Colorado. Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas. Ryan Santangelo in Salida, Colorado. Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas. Ryan Santangelo in Salida, California.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Thanks for inventing podcasts, he writes. You're welcome. Joe Oswald. Send money. You're welcome. You got credit for something. Finally. Where's my Nobel Peace Prize?
Starting point is 02:07:00 It's coming. No, it's not. That's a Peabody. Joe Oswald in Lithuania. I'm getting confused in lithia florida joe uh fletcher scaife in wilston north dakota chris cowan in austin texas andrew guzik sir andrew in greensboro north carolina fabian beber in winningden deutschland Fabian Beber in Winningdon, Deutschland. All right. Matt Illingworth in Montclair, New Jersey. Montclair. My old town.
Starting point is 02:07:31 Really? Yeah, Montclair, New Jersey. Robert Case in Mill Spring, North Carolina. Julian Robbins in Aptos, California. Matthias Milchinski in Hawthorne, California. Nicholas Rudovich in Harpers Ferry, West Virginia. Daniel LaVoy in Bath,
Starting point is 02:07:51 Michigan. Melissa Reeve in Winchester. Another Winchesterian in Virginia. You two should get together. Robert Britton in Forston, Georgia. Uh, he needs to de-douching.
Starting point is 02:08:06 You've been de-douched. Paul Terranova, in Webster, Massachusetts. Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington. Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta, Georgia. And last but not
Starting point is 02:08:22 least, Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California. I want to thank these people for making the show. 1592, the reality that it is before you. Thank you, everybody, and especially thank you for the little notes you put in those donations under the executive and associate executive producer level. Sometimes we read them out loud, but we read them all,
Starting point is 02:08:42 and sometimes they're very beautiful. Thank you. We really appreciate that. And, of course, people who come in under $50, all of you are thanked, and we are grateful for you. Many of you do this to be completely, definitely anonymous. No mistakes on our side. So I see you, $49.99. And, of course, the sustaining donations, which are incredibly important. They do help in the slower periods.
Starting point is 02:09:04 Please go to the following website to learn more about it. And thank you all for supporting episode 1592. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order!
Starting point is 02:09:34 Order! Shut up, slave! and i think we needed a karma there for someone somewhere you've got karma ah very short today. Anonymous Spirit wishes his first human resource, the Barbarista, a happy birthday. Turn 28 on September 17th. Get your tax-free tip money out there and complete that one-third for your knighthood. And Timothy Vintofane is turning 53 today.
Starting point is 02:09:59 And Rachel says happy birthday to Jason. We say happy birthday to everybody here on behalf of the staff and manager of the best podcast in the universe. Happy birthday to Jason. We say happy birthday to everybody here on behalf of the staff and manager of the best podcast in the universe. And we keep our title change in abeyance. But first, we have two knights. And there we go. Oh, that's a nice one.
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Starting point is 02:11:59 Our night, Sir Daniel, he organizes that. Mimi does the back office stuff with Jay. And we really have a beautiful, beautiful collection of groups, people getting together all over the world to complete your No Agenda experience. You don't just listen to the podcast. You don't just go out and hit people in the mouth. You don't just troll around on No Agenda social. No, you have to go to a meetup for full connection, which brings you complete protection. Let's check out the Richmond meetup report. In the morning, this is Dame Trill Chicken at the ITM Richmond meetup.
Starting point is 02:12:32 Hi, this is Catherine at the Legend Beer Brewing Company having a beautiful day with beautiful breezes, beautiful autumn weather. ITM, this is Marshall from Locust Hill, Virginia. Let's go Brandon. ITM, this is Marshall Bennett Jr. God bless the queen, man. I'm going to bed. This is Happy Ann, Virginia. Trains good, planes bad.
Starting point is 02:12:58 And this is Tom Starkweather. This is Sir Thorky in the morning. This is OTG Anon and I'm wondering why was traffic email sent? Hi, this is Sarah, and life is a scam. Hi, this is Rob from Richmond in the morning. Hola, soy Steve de Mexico. John, I got ants too.
Starting point is 02:13:15 Hey, it's Rosalind and King George, and I'll see you next month, Tina. In the morning, this is Stephanie. Beer shrunk, amygdala shrunk. ITM, boys. This is Christopher and King George. We're your newest executive producers Thanks a lot guys ITM I love those big meetups
Starting point is 02:13:31 But you can't get much bigger than the indie people Hello, this is Dame Maria And Sir Mark So very happy to have all these No Agenda aficionados In this beautiful day with liquid sunshine And lots of other libations. ITM. In the morning, John and Adam, this is Emily.
Starting point is 02:13:48 I don't need to work on your Italian accent. In the morning, John and Adam, this is Bruce here. I'm Sir Ripper of the Maple. I've skipped a rugby game watching the World Cup to come to this meetup, and I don't regret it. Hi, this is Cindy from Carmel. In the morning, thank you for your courage. And who cares about rugby? In the morning, this is Cindy from Carmel. In the morning, thank you for your courage. And who cares about rugby? In the morning, this is Dame Trinity. And Sir
Starting point is 02:14:08 PBR Street Gang, and there is no evidence that there is a preference between Adam and Joan Diveven. Sink of the mile! Nailed it, Sir Betty! In the morning, Dame Swanee, and I'm married to the guy
Starting point is 02:14:24 next door. And we never had a fight. Hi, John and Adam. It's Kyle from Zionsville. It's our first meetup. Thank you for your courage. In the morning, John and Adam. This is Sir Craig of the Dark Moon.
Starting point is 02:14:33 That's all I got. Hi, John and Adam. In the morning, this is Amy from Westfield. In the morning, Adam, John. This is Shannon from Fort Wayne. There are no Iron Man-level orgy tents, but hey, in the morning. Have a great day. Good morning.
Starting point is 02:14:43 This is Voldemar Zielinski. This party is garbage. Good morning. This is Volodymyr Zelensky. This party is garbage. There's no cocaine. There's no male prostitutes. I'm out of here. In the morning. Protection is protection. Yo, man.
Starting point is 02:14:55 And I want to go to these indie meetups. We have to go. I have to. Tina and I have to get this together. Those people are insane. Don't you want to be a part of a group like that? Diverse, different languages, different backgrounds, different ages, and all hanging out together, and they do it all the time in Indy.
Starting point is 02:15:14 Wow, beautiful. Coming up, Meetup Wise. We've got quite a list for today, actually. The Too Hot Tucson Meetup is at 4 o'clock in Tucson, Arizona. The Sandy Brigade, 3rd Thursday, 5 o'clock in Post Falls, Idaho. It's Selkirk Abbey. The Thirsty 3rd Thursday, that is Edge Tavern, Charlotte, North Carolina. Totally Not a Drug Cartel or Spook meetup takes place at 7 o'clock at Rosarito Beach Hotel.
Starting point is 02:15:38 That's in Rosarito, Mexico. Sir Brian of London is there. I hope people show up. He's very pumped about meeting people. We have Friday, the Suds Insanity Meetup, Oconee Brewing Company in Greensboro, Georgia. We have the Goat Karma Producers Local 33, the return of Sir Dixpert and Cornerstone Pub and Prime, Wyoming, Minnesota. On Saturday, Motorworks Meetup at Motorworks Brewery, Brandanson, Florida. The Connecticut Meetup, 2.30 at the Truck Bar in Higginham, Connecticut. Boots on the Ground,
Starting point is 02:16:07 2.33, The Garten at San Diego, California. Star Chamber of Idaho, El Mariachi in Star, Idaho. That'll be at 3 o'clock at the Green Bay meetup, Jill's Bar, Green Bay, Wisconsin. Heard about that earlier in the donation segment. And the Sonoma Wino
Starting point is 02:16:23 Country meetup, 2.0 333 at iron and vine in santa rosa california and also on saturday the flight of the no agenda number 44 trains good planes bad 333 santa fe cafe in fullerton california leo bravo of course organizing and finally on the list here we have the off-cycle meetup for special guest Sir Sean of Slovakia, 5 o'clock at Lion Hall, Arlington, Virginia. Sounds like a spook meetup to me. Sir William of West Pennsylvania will be organizing. Those are just some of the many No Agenda meetups.
Starting point is 02:16:56 Go to noagendameetups.com to find all of them. If you can't find one near you, you must live in a very desolate place, but you can always start one. It's easy. Near you, you must live in a very desolate place, but you can always start one. It's easy. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be. Drink it all, hell's a lame.
Starting point is 02:17:22 You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Okay. I have, actually, I have four. I have four. I have four. Oh, you want to go first? Oh, one of mine just failed. Why don't you go first?
Starting point is 02:17:35 You got your four lined up. One of them failed for some reason. Why did that one fail? One of them failed. So I have three. Oh! I said, what in the world of this that's i could not resist not clipping that for an iso we have this one okay wow always a seed man have we used that before no that's it's new as far as that what's his name it's a seed man iso Seedman. Well, maybe this one. It's almost mind-blowing.
Starting point is 02:18:07 Ooh, that's a good one. Okay, I've got, starting with, unfortunately, I didn't have ISO. I got USO, USO Texas things. Things in Texas suck. No, no, I veto that. That's just not going to happen. No, no. Let's go with, I got the vast wasteland.
Starting point is 02:18:27 A vast wasteland. Yeah, decent. It's not as good as Amy. Let's go outrageous. It's so outrageous. And last is destroy. Destroy New York City. Although funny, no.
Starting point is 02:18:46 I think we go with Amy. Amy was good. All right. You don't get Amy saying that kind of stuff. Let me hear her again. Let me hear. Just to make sure. It's almost mind-blowing.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Mind-blowing. Yeah, that's definitely a good clip. We got Amy. So I went and took your advice and watched the morning show. Oh, my God. How bad was it? Well, I didn't think it was as bad as you thought it was. Oh, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 02:19:10 The writing was horrible. Jennifer Aniston has ruined her face with whatever she's done. And then they bring in Jon Hamm? It's atrocious. Well, it's a desperation, but I did get three clips. Oh, no. Wait. This was not the if i had known you were going to get a clip i would have here's my problem to do a television show about a news
Starting point is 02:19:34 program that's doing news about what is currently news i.e ukraine covid etc is very difficult and they fail as far as i'm concerned they fail well i would say you it's hard to do that sort of thing because it's not evergreen and what and these things get old fast they don't go into distribution nobody wants to watch them after you know apple should be ashamed of themselves and i'm and i'm no longer team jen so i've i didn't know you ever were well that you either team jen or team taylor no yeah of course of course it's tata team tata so there's a couple so i got some clips knowing what you were you were complaining about the woke writing and i got three clips that kind of epitomize it and let's start with this is ms of these three clips ah this is this is what you
Starting point is 02:20:24 oh you see you don't want me peeking on your clips, so I'll just call it MS so he doesn't listen to it. Well, morning show MS, it makes sense. Yeah, sure. Here's Jab 6. On January 6th, 2021, our democracy hung in the balance. We watched on television screens
Starting point is 02:20:43 as violence broke out at our most revered institution but bradley jackson didn't watch bradley was there oh yeah she was there she was reporting on her cell phone from inside the capitol how come she's not in jail then i can't believe you're doing this and so here's another one this is a abortion talk uh you should try to get some sleep out of 120 abortion clinics in texas how many do you think are fake uh i don't know like 30 according to this article 100 100 clinics routinely lie to pregnant women about how far along they are so that they think they're too too late to terminate the pregnancy i mean they'll be three weeks along and they'll tell them that
Starting point is 02:21:30 they're eight weeks because the cutoff is six weeks wow sick it's fucked up that's i mean it's really horrifying yeah but where is this coming from right now you're are you spinning you read numbers like this it's insane it just pisses me off you go to your doctor you don't want to be lied to i agree we all agree things in texas suck lots of things but maybe we just like i don't know look forward to the barbecue so they're on a private jet while this dialogue is taking place and i have never heard this do you think they completely made this up it could be it's a fictional show yeah but i mean they're definitely aniston i think used to live in austin but there's this anti-texas stuff i thought the anti-texas stuff finished off with this particular my last clip i'm not gonna bore people stiff this. But this is just too much for me. This is the one that, it's an eye roller.
Starting point is 02:22:27 This is the Texas heat clip. Wow. Oh, my God. Could it be any hotter? Yeah. It's only March. Well, welcome to the future, man. Look at this thing.
Starting point is 02:22:40 I couldn't hear it. I remember. Okay, well, she comes out of the plane in March. She says, oh, could it be any hotter? It's not that hot in Texas in March, but okay. Could it be any hotter? And the guy says, of course, you're right, the music's too loud. The guy says, oh, get used to the future.
Starting point is 02:22:59 Yeah, climate change. The show is atrocious. They shouldn't have even done a second series. I like the third. I know. But the second was iffy. Oh, the second one I couldn't watch. So this was after the show talk.
Starting point is 02:23:12 This is how this is how John and I have nothing to discuss where I say, hey, I watched the morning show. It's crap. And John says, oh, yeah, I watched the Barbie movie. Hey, guess what? I didn't watch John. I did not watch the Barbie movie. I'll bring a clip for the Barbie movie on the Sunday show. The Barbie movie, okay, the Barbie movie, I couldn't get past nine minutes of it. That's what you said. So that is automatic
Starting point is 02:23:35 disqualification. We're not going to watch it here in Texas. But I will say this, and i've said it to you before art director and set designers oscars yeah sure of course they really went out of their way but the thing starts off it pretty much tells you at the beginning that's a commercial for mattel and it just plugs every mattel product they have and it's just it's lame It's a lame movie. Who was it? Is it Ryan? What's his name? Brian?
Starting point is 02:24:09 I don't know. Ryan's, yes, one of these guys. It's not Gosling, is it? No, it's Ryan Reynolds? What's his name? I think it, I don't know. It's one of the Ryans. It's one of the Ryans.
Starting point is 02:24:17 It's a Ryan. You know what would have made it a winner? They should have gone with Zelensky. Zelensky as Ken would have been good. I would have, Gosling. I think it is Gosling. It's too short. Zelensky as Ken would have been good. I would have, Gosling. I think it is too short. Zelensky is only five,
Starting point is 02:24:29 five, two. Ah, all right. Um, I have something of more interest because it's time. It's time. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:24:36 And improve our preparedness for a potential cyber pandemic. Lorox says a cyber attack has left the company facing supply shortages according to a government filing the company detected a breach last month the source remains unclear clorox clorox has not said which of its brands are being affected and the recent cyber attack against mgm resorts is reportedly costing the company up to eight million dollars per day reports say some operations, including the payment of gambling winnings, were still being affected yesterday.
Starting point is 02:25:10 What do you think will be next? What next? Now we're affecting people's lives. They've always said you've got to infect Facebook or X or something like that. You've got to infect something that people will... TikTok. Well, we're assuming that these are criminals and they're doing it to
Starting point is 02:25:25 make money. Yeah, of course. It's pretty hard to top doing it to the casinos. How about Clorox, though? And what does that even mean? If it affects the products? The Clorox thing sounds less like a ransomware thing than it's just some sort of screw-up.
Starting point is 02:25:41 Yeah, something broke down. But they've always been pretty savvy technology wise. So I don't know what happened to Clorox. It's not like the, I don't know. I don't get the Clorox thing either. There's a weird report. Very weird report. I have the weirdest story that,
Starting point is 02:26:01 I don't know if you know about it, about the Canada versus India thing. Yes, I've read about it know if you know about it about the canada versus india thing yes i've read about i have read about it i i don't know much about it so i'm glad uh i'm glad you have so here's a clip okay canada versus india odd story the situation between india and canada is becoming more tense india is now telling its citizens to practice utmost caution when traveling to America's neighbor to the north. New Delhi is telling Indians to be cautious because of growing anti-India activities and politically condoned hate crimes in Canada. The Canadian public safety minister responded saying Canada is just conducting an appropriate criminal investigation.
Starting point is 02:26:43 is just conducting an appropriate criminal investigation. The country is investigating if India was involved in an assassination in June. A leading Sikh activist in Canadian citizen was gunned down in British Columbia. He was working on an unofficial referendum vote, and the DIA has long accused him of links to terrorism. Just this week, both India and Canada expelled diplomats from their respective countries yeah yeah that's weird i mean yeah and they got all they're all bent out of shape and the diplomats have been kicked out of both countries yeah yeah yeah yeah well but you know i don't think you can have i mean we don't like it when some foreign agent comes over and shoots one of their own no
Starting point is 02:27:26 it's not done in diplomatic circles it's it's considered improper now the russians poisoning people in england you know these these expats i do like what uh what what trudeau is on now because uh you know of course in in the socialist country of Kanakistan, they have all kinds of problems. They have the same inflation issues we have. And, you know, then we have to blame somebody. So Trudeau decided to blame the supermarkets. It's not okay.
Starting point is 02:27:58 It's not okay, he says. Our biggest grocery stores are making record profits while Canadians are struggling to put food on the table. So Minister Champagne will be calling on the heads of large grocers to come to Ottawa with a plan to address the rising cost of food. And we expect to hear from them by Thanksgiving on what their plan is to stabilize prices. Yeah! Stabilize prices. And let me be very clear.
Starting point is 02:28:30 If their plan doesn't provide real relief for the middle class and people working hard to join it, then we will take further action and we are not ruling anything out, including tax measures. and we are not ruling anything out, including tax measures. So won't that just jack the prices up even further? Oh yeah, that makes it worse.
Starting point is 02:28:53 This is price control. Price control. This is typical. Price controls never work, especially in a capitalist system. Wow. It screws things up royally, and this guy's just a big screw-up. Did you notice this thing? He's introduced a new term. He was complaining about some protests going on,
Starting point is 02:29:11 especially about the people protesting what's going on in the schools. Yes, the Million Person March, yes. And so he says these people are just transphobic. Yeah, oh yeah, homophobic. And homophobicobic and a new term which I think is just giving it away for what he is. Biphobic.
Starting point is 02:29:31 No. Yes. He said biphobic. Biphobic. Biphobic. How do you biphobic? Maybe he's a bisexual leader.
Starting point is 02:29:47 Yeah, we know what he is. Or if that. And so he's decided to make biphobia some sort of a thing when it's not. Back to the grocery store, Chicago has taken it one step further, though. Since, you know, everyone's leaving. Just like San Francisco, all stores are leaving Chicago. No one wants to operate there. It's a mess.
Starting point is 02:30:10 They just get robbed. So now Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson will explore the possibility of a city-owned grocery store. Oh, to talk about socialism. Yes. We're better than Canada now. A better, stronger, safer future is one where our youth and our communities have access to the tools and resources they need to thrive. My administration is committed. Do these people know how hard it is to run grocery stores?
Starting point is 02:30:35 It's one of the hardest. It's not as bad as the restaurant business, but pretty close. You run at razor-th thin margins. You know what? Food lines. That's what you're going to get. Food lines. People standing in line for toilet paper. Chicago, yeah. Sounds right. It's not right. It's not
Starting point is 02:30:57 right. So, Vermox. Vermox. Yes. It's at the round table. Yes. Vermox. Vermox. Yes. It's at the round table. Yes, Vermox. It's an anti-worm medication. Prevents newly hatched insect larva worms from growing or multiplying in your body. Beautiful.
Starting point is 02:31:17 I don't know if you saw this, but now Sam Bankman Freed's parents are being sued for millions in misappropriated funds. Have you seen his mom coming out of the courthouse? Oh, my God. I didn't see anything recently, but she's a terror. Just do Freed Courthouse and look at her. freed courthouse and look at her so as it turns out they coerce this this kid and i'll just call him a kid and a and a autist into sending them tens of millions of dollars putting them on salary as advisors um his dad even sent you know all it's all coming out in discovery now
Starting point is 02:32:05 is and these are the two stanford uh economic professors yeah you know just to show you how corrupt this whole thing is and she then funnel keith richards yes yes she does look like keith richards you're right that's being that's being unkind to keith uh they funneled over $20 million to Democrats. So direct connection. Yeah. Direct connection from FTX through the parents to the Silicon Valley super PAC, which includes all the typical douchebags. I mean, these people should all go to jail for this. I agree. They should.
Starting point is 02:33:03 It really is egregious what they've done um let's see oh yes well i do have a couple things that i'd like to mention actually i have a couple clips uh first let's do some political stuff uh bobby the op back in the news had a fundraiser 2.2 million dollars in one night not bad who was the superstar performer on deck eric clapton hi robert hi everybody i just wanted to say i'm looking forward to seeing you soon at this gig uh for uh truth unity, and posterity with the Kennedy team. I'll see you soon. Bye.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Yeah, go Kennedy team. Well, you know, he was a virus, a vaccine injured. Yes, we know. Almost lost his ability to play the guitar. He actually lost his ability to play for a while. He got it back. And Ted Cruz, normally I wouldn't play anything from the Ted Cruz podcast, but he laid out a couple of possibilities should Joe not be available, and here's the first, these are
Starting point is 02:34:14 short clips, but they're worth listening to. So there are two scenarios in which Joe Biden is not the nominee, I believe. Number one, the powers that be in the Democrat Party convinced Joe Biden to pull out. If that happens, I think it's a free for all. I think a bunch of people get in. I think the top four Democrats who get in are Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Gavin Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren. And I think all four of them get in. I think Gretchen Whitmer probably gets in as well. I think there are some others that get in. I think you probably get five to 10 candidates who jump in the instant Biden is out. Now, in my view, the top tier are the first four I listed. And I think in that primary, I believe Elizabeth Warren wins that primary. Interesting take. Let's listen to the Elizabeth Warren gambit,
Starting point is 02:35:00 according to Senator Cruz. That's scenario one. Elizabeth Warren comes out of a wide open real Democrat primary. Now, the thing about it is you're running out of time. So I'll give you some deadlines. October 16th is the filing deadline for major party candidates in Nevada. November 10th is the filing deadline for major party candidates in Alabama. November 14th is the filing deadline for major party candidates in Arkansas. So we're starting to get to filing deadlines where it becomes exceedingly difficult to get on the ballot. And so if this scenario happens, it has to happen fast. Well, even Ted doesn't think that's going to happen.
Starting point is 02:35:40 There's a second scenario. Here it comes. And this scenario, I think, is more likely and a heck of a lot more dangerous, which is fast forward to next year. Fast forward to the Democrat National Convention. It's going to be in Chicago, Illinois, and it is August 19th through 22nd. If we get to August of next year, and number one, Biden's mental diminishment has gotten even worse, and it becomes obvious to anyone that he can't find his shoes, and Democrats decide, okay, all of this downside is really worrying us, then the convention is the opportunity to parachute
Starting point is 02:36:17 someone in. You parachute someone in by having some story that for health reasons, Biden's not able to continue. What do they do then? Well, the natural thing to say would be, okay, it'll be one of those top four. And here's the problem. Whoever they pick is a problem. If they pick Kamala Harris, she's the vice president in some ways, the natural choice. All of the downsides of Kamala Harris make that a really dangerous choice.
Starting point is 02:36:43 If they pick Gavin Newsom, that makes some California Democrats happy. The problem is you're replacing an African-American woman in the Democrat Party with a very rich white guy. You want to talk about a recipe for discontent. That's a big problem. They could go with Pete Buttigieg, another white guy. Rich liberals would really like Pete Buttigieg. And a lot of the Democrat donors are gay and lesbian. That's a major chunk of the funding stream for a Democrat candidate. But you have the same problem. If you jettison an African-American woman who's vice president for a white guy in the Democrat primary, you're really asking for trouble. And option four is Elizabeth Warren. But you have the same,
Starting point is 02:37:25 everyone else who doesn't get it, I think anyone they go with as a coronation, it's different than an open primary where Warren wins because primary voters vote for. That gives an element of legitimacy that the people who don't win can live with. If it's just the kingmakers saying, nope, don't win can live with. If it's just the kingmakers saying, nope, we pick you, whoever doesn't get picked, everyone else is pissed. So here's the scenario that I think is perhaps most likely and most dangerous. In August of 2024, the Democrat kingmakers jettison Joe Biden and parachute in Michelle Obama. It's like a shaggy dog story you pulled off. So Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African-American women,
Starting point is 02:38:13 which is a critical part of the constituency that Democrats are relying on to win. But number two, you avoid the problem. If you pick from any of the four, the other three are pissed because they're all, to some extent, peers. three are pissed because they're all to some extent peers. They're rivals. They're all jabbing knives at each other. Michelle Obama, because she was first lady, has the ability to kind of parachute in above all four and say, hey, we're not picking among any of you.
Starting point is 02:38:38 You guys can all fight it out next time. You're all going to be on the same level. We're coming. This is the Obama saving the day. And I think in terms of a solution that unifies Democrats, there ain't nothing like that. He's not a dummy. So I'm just saying. Something to do with Texas water. It would be funner if he said big mike 2024 but he won't do that you know it's that may explain why they're just letting good old joe uh hobble along
Starting point is 02:39:13 keep well definitely joe did put a poison pill in place with kamala harris yes very smart very astute very well done very astute just astute. Very well done. Very astute. Just astute. We have a little bit of insight into the AI meeting. You know, the smartest people on the planet all got together in a secret meeting with the Senate, with Schumer and Warner, and we had a chat, and we're going to save the world. Thank you, Elon. Thank you,
Starting point is 02:39:48 Sundar. Thank you. Who else do we have? Gates was there. Thank you, Bill. Thank you. I think Cook was there. Tom Collins? Tim Collins? I don't think he was there.
Starting point is 02:40:04 I don't think he has an AI play. He probably feels above those guys. Anyway, Mark Warner. That's probably true no matter what. Mark Warner is a Democrat senator from Virginia. Worst. And it's kind of what we expected. We turn now to Virginia Democrat Mark Warner.
Starting point is 02:40:22 He is the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Great to have you here. Thank you, Mark. You have been very active on artificial intelligence, and we talked about that. I'm so active. This morning, I was active on artificial intelligence. I was running around in circles like AI, AI, AI, AI. Back in January, Microsoft just announced a few days ago that China has a new capability to automatically generate images for use in influence operations to mimic American voters across the political spectrum and create controversy along racial, economic and ideological lines.
Starting point is 02:40:57 How much of a risk is this to our upcoming election? It's an enormous risk. Enormous risk. Oh, my God. China's going. If it's not Russia, it's an enormous risk no enormous risk oh my god china's going if it's not russia it's china and artificial intelligence i've spent as much time on this i think as any member of the senate oh which means you don't know crap because you can't figure out how to make the thing work it doesn't work it's no good and i never spent something where you the more time i spend in certain certain ways, the more confused I get.
Starting point is 02:41:25 Well, that we believe. The whole economics around these large language models, which used to be, you know, who had the most data, who had the most compute power would win. That fundamentally changed after Facebook released its so-called Lama model into the wild. So he's saying the truth is here. Facebook released the Lama models into the wild. So he's saying he's the truth is here. Facebook released the llama models into the wild. And I actually, I don't know why they did it, but I'm appreciative because now even I can sit at home and can see that it doesn't work. It's no good. It's completely bogus. Yeah. Maybe you can have a bigger computer, get the answer faster, but it's still the same models. It's not impressive.
Starting point is 02:42:10 That fundamentally changed after Facebook released its so-called llama model into the wild in the spring. We just had a major session, Leader Schumer put together, had the kind of who's who in the room. And what I'm concerned at is even the AI leaders who say they want rules, guardrails, I'm concerned that when you actually put words on paper, will those major tech companies support that? Because you've seen we in social media have done zero. Now, in terms of China, China is a major player in AI. And where I think we ought to start is by getting rid of TikTok, where AI tools, whether it comes from China or domestically, could have the most immediate effect would be the public's faith in our elections. Right. Which Microsoft just cited.
Starting point is 02:42:52 Hear me out on this. But the other area beyond elections is faith in our public markets. These same tools could completely disrupt the confidence in our public markets by using these same deep fake tools. So I believe we ought to start we can put together an alliance what's that we changed from simple ai to deep fake well yeah this this is why it's they're all over the map so it's it's a they'll lose trust in our elections because of deep fakes okay that'll really work. I mean, oh my God, we'll be fooled for eight seconds. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:28 It's like that. Really, eight seconds. Oh, but then our public markets, what are we talking about now? What is AI? The public markets are already AI. They're all algos. All trading is algorithmic.
Starting point is 02:43:42 There's almost the poor saps who are on stock twits they're fighting against algorithms this already like this i don't know what he's talking about between the capitalists and the small d democrats we might at least get guardrails coming in next year with the elections and with the concern about our markets when i hear guardrails of the markets thing that must just be a red herring when i hear guardrails that means we want to control what is being said we want to yeah they just want to they're in this censorship yes yes we want to control what google results are we want to control what social media shows you're concerned not just about spooking you know the stock market we're talking about misleading people going into an election sp Spooking the stock market.
Starting point is 02:44:25 This is so weird. In the same breath, spooking the stock market. Wait a minute. Is this a signal? But the stock market's going to get spooked? There's a crash coming for some reason, and then they can blame it on China AI? It's going to be hard to pull off. We're talking about misleading people going into an election.
Starting point is 02:44:50 Congress isn't going to legislate ahead of the election. I think this is the most difficult thing we've ever. This is why the notion of trying to solve it all. The bias questions, the whole question around deep fakes, the questions around. What questions are there around deep fakes, the questions around... What questions are there around deep fakes? At what point has a deep fake actually caused market disruption or an election issue? Can you name one? I haven't heard.
Starting point is 02:45:17 I can't name one. No, of course not. What's called hallucination, where you get answers that have no relationship to what the question was asked? It means the hallucination, you can call it hallucination. We just call it suck. But we ought to at least start with some guardrails around trust in our public elections and trust in our public markets. There, I think we can move before our elections. I think it'll be bipartisan.
Starting point is 02:45:40 Let's start on that framing point. I think we can all agree there could be huge disruption in both of those areas. And that's where I'm focused my time. So then the interest on CBS, then the interview goes in a slightly different direction, which I think may show some of the concern from this Democrat senator. You may have heard our CBS polling there at the top of the program. And one of the data points I want to show you here says when people compare their finances now to how they were before the pandemic, by two to one, they say they're worse, not better. And when they feel worse, they tell us they're voting for Donald Trump. Whoa. So let's just say, I don't know, like the markets are going down and China used the deep fakes and then that would get Trump to be elected or something. What are we doing here, lady?
Starting point is 02:46:28 How can President Biden win over those voters? Well, I think we've seen from President Biden's actual record, record amounts of job growth coming again after COVID. We've seen major legislation. There's now law in infrastructure and the so-called chip spill and transition in our energy economy. And most of that has only been about 10 cents on every dollar spent out. So I think the positive effects of that will really continue to penetrate. Do the people in Virginia feel that that you talked to? I think there is a general feeling, oh my gosh, everybody seems to be at each other's throats
Starting point is 02:47:03 here in Washington. The notion that we're going to potentially go into a government shutdown, Mike Turner and I work very closely together. But I do think, I wish the House leadership would be spending a little more time on what would happen with a government shutdown, which makes us look bad around the world. And frankly, in a state like mine in Virginia, where we have so many government workers, government contractors, it will be a disaster. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I just thought it was interesting to go from the AI into when the
Starting point is 02:47:31 economy is bad, people vote for Trump. That was very strange. Isn't that weird? That's a weird little twist. Especially CBS. That's telling you maybe that's a code for, okay, Trump's been read in. He's one of us now. We can safely put him in office.
Starting point is 02:47:48 He's good to go. Is it good as possible? Oh, man. I have an important update. Don't call it a comeback. That's right. COVID is back. But is it COVID?
Starting point is 02:48:00 What is it? Can we tell what it is? Oh, no. NBC, help us. When it comes to COVID, doctors say it's becoming harder to determine whether someone actually has it. What? I've got thousands of these packs of home tests. What? What?
Starting point is 02:48:15 When it comes to COVID, doctors say it's becoming harder to determine whether someone actually has it. That's because the virus symptoms often overlap with allergies, a cold, or other respiratory illnesses. What? What happened to the test? What happened to the test? Doctors can't tell if you have COVID anymore? Joining us now is NBC News health reporter, Aria Bendix. Aria, I do recall earlier in the pandemic when people got COVID, it was you're losing your sense of smell, right? And taste. What are the symptoms like now? Yeah, so the most common symptoms are the ones that we commonly associate with other? Yeah. So the most common symptoms are the ones that we commonly associate with other respiratory illnesses. So that might be sore throat, congestion, sneezing. Some people are reporting a very faint sore throat. Hold on, stop it.
Starting point is 02:48:55 Do you remember the early, early days? The early days, right at the beginning when we were on this, those symptoms were never COVID. Oh, no, you're not going to get the sniffles. It's not going to be like that. No, you immediately have to go on a ventilator. You'll just be gasping for air. No sneezing. If you sneeze, that's not COVID.
Starting point is 02:49:21 It's definitely a sign of not COVID. I wish I could get some of those old clips. I had them in the special I put together. I should find some of those. It's kind of fascinating how this has changed. Now it's reverted to what it is. It's a common cold. Excuse me. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:49:38 Let's continue with this clip because this is fascinating. Doctors can't figure out what this is. It's not COVID. It's a cold, congestion, sneezing. Some people are reporting a very faint sore throat. Others say they feel some scratching or burning akin to a strep throat. And then a smaller number of people reporting, you know, your headaches, chills, muscle aches, maybe a post-nasal drip that can lead to a bit of a cough. Isn't that called a flu or a cold? But as you mentioned, that dry cough we were seeing at the beginning of the pandemic, that loss of taste and smell, even some of the gastrointestinal
Starting point is 02:50:09 issues we saw early on, those have largely gone away. Yeah, I mean, beyond those things, is there anything else that's different about the virus now than it was in the early days? Yeah, it's a cold. Yeah, I know we hear about all these different strains and mutations, and it's really important for scientists to pay attention to those. But from the public health perspective, we are dealing with the same variant that we have since late 2021. That's the Omicron variant. That hasn't gotten milder over time, but our response to that variant has changed. Our immunity has changed. Most people now have what's called hybrid immunity, which is immunity from vaccination and a natural infection. So when they're exposed to that virus, their bodies know how to fight it off and it results in a milder illness.
Starting point is 02:50:46 I should mention though that that immunity does wane. So for older adults in particular, it's important to get these updated booster shots this fall so they can top off that protection. That's such an important point, especially for the immunocompromised, any vulnerable communities to really take the protections you need to stay safe.
Starting point is 02:51:00 Yeah, absolutely. All right, Bendix, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for watching. So, you know,'s this is not covid this is no vid they're lying they're just lying it's not there's no covid this is a cold get a shot oh and by the way people are going to cvs and all they you know getting their shot and all of a a sudden, here's a $200 bill. What? It was going to be free. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:26 Surprise, surprise. The insurance company's like, no, no, no. We're not going to reimburse you for that. No. What a scam. Absolute scam. Well, I can go out with two homeless clips. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 02:51:45 Or let's skip that. I'm going to move those to Sunday. I want to play this. This is interesting. This is one of the things Biden's managed to pull off. No Democrats done it before. They're not. Republicans don't dare even try.
Starting point is 02:51:58 And this is the climate core thing he's come up with. 20,000 kids. What is this being compared to this is civilian conservation corps during the depression this is a depression idea the works project administration during the depression like the the new deal is this the new deal yes totally new deal stuff now i i have talked about why don't they do this? I've said this not on the show so much because it doesn't come up in the conversation until now. But it's always been the following because I brought this up in discussions. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:52:38 We can't do this. This is not something you can do. You can't do these government programs anymore like civilian conservation corps because it takes union jobs away that was always the argument no no no you can't do this taking real paying union jobs away from real pay union members this is no good you can't do it and it's always been verboten and now all of a sudden we got this. The Biden administration is announcing a major climate initiative. It will be the first of its kind in the nation to train young Americans for jobs in the renewable energy industry. The White House on Wednesday announced the creation of American Climate Corps.
Starting point is 02:53:18 It's a workforce initiative that will pay 20,000 young Americans to get training for jobs in the climate sector. that will pay 20,000 young Americans to get training for jobs in the climate sector. The new Corps will support a wide range of jobs, including restoring coastal wetlands, forest management to help fight wildfires, and building out renewable energy projects. No prior experience is required to apply for most programs. The White House said in a statement that the aims include, quote, conserving our land and waters, bolstering community resilience, advancing environmental justice, deploying clean energy, implementing energy efficient technologies and tackling climate change. Initially proposed as part of President Biden's Build Back Better agenda, the program was stripped out of the Inflation Reduction Act.
Starting point is 02:54:02 Five states have already launched their own climate core programs. An additional five also announced new programs on Wednesday. The Secretary General of the United Nations on the same day called for more action on fossil fuels. During a speech at the UN Climate Ambition Summit in New York, he asked nations to end subsidies for fossil fuels. Yeah, so the climate justice part of that is mildly concerning because that means you could have an army of 20,000 brown shirts snooping around. Hey, what are you doing with that diesel car? What are you doing?
Starting point is 02:54:36 It's like in England where they keep a tab on everybody's garbage cans. On your bins. On the bins. bins on your bins yeah and it's kind of sad that we do this the very end of the show because without a doubt in my mind the number one problem we face is the theft that is climate change and sustainable development goals which the united nations now says we need more than five trillion a year california suinging the five major oil companies, like Big Tobacco. All the states are going to do this now.
Starting point is 02:55:10 It's all theft. They're thieving. Yeah, they're stealing money. They're stealing. You had two clips. Was this the only one of the two? That's the only one. I had the two clips for the homeless problem in Sacramento.
Starting point is 02:55:22 Oh, right, right, right. I was just thinking if I could add to your climate change. Well, maybe we just do the... I think we're good. Let's go. We're good? Okay. Alright, we're good. Anyone can call it. You called it. We're good. We're totally good.
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