No Agenda - 1604 - "Janky"

Episode Date: November 2, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We get a lot of fans helping us out. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore Act. It's Thursday, November 2nd, 2023. This is your award-winning Give On Asia Media Assassination, Episode 1604. This is no agenda. Your personal large language model is broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No. 6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon silicon valley where we say
Starting point is 00:00:25 well wishes to bruce bocce and the texas rangers i'm john c devorey yeah yeah texas did something what'd they do we did good at sports ball They do. We did good at sports ball. Yay! Sports ball! Exactly, sports ball. Sports ball!
Starting point is 00:00:48 Sports ball! We rule with sports ball. Now, I was for the Astros, of course. I was supposed to be for the Astros here. And then they got kicked out by the Rangers. Now the Rangers are the... They won the World Series. Who else from the world is in the World Series?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Well, the players are international. Oh, okay. Were there any Japanese players? Not on the Rangers that I know of, but there's plenty of Japanese players. In fact, the best player, not to belabor this conversation, but the best player in the major leagues is actually a Japanese dude who both pitches and he's a big home run slugger. Didn't a Japanese team win one year?
Starting point is 00:01:31 Somehow I remember this. Yeah, they did. The Japanese came over and they won. Yeah, didn't they win the World Series at some point? Yeah, the Tokyo Giants, I think. Oh, yeah, there's a contradiction. The Tokyo Giants, I think. Oh, yeah. There's a contradiction. The Tokyo Giants.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Uh-huh. You know, that is the name of an actual team. I'm sure it is. Okay. Yeah. I believe you. When it comes to sports,
Starting point is 00:01:56 you are the authority on the No Agenda Show. I just add color. Which I think I do well. Of course, they could. They're the Gi the giants but i think they're from tokyo i'm now i'm thinking second guessing myself and uh but has an american ever won the sumo championships is the question not uh well there's been some americans uh samoans or were kind of american i think there was a samoan kind of american pre-americans they were kind of here yeah it's mostly manchurians right now that are winning
Starting point is 00:02:33 the sumos well all that aside uh i know you have a couple of clips so we might as well just get into it because we have to dive in deep because no one in media and i mean absolutely no one has done a good job at this new presidential order on artificial intelligence setting national rules on the rapidly growing technology that has big potential but also comes with potential our senior white house correspondent selena wang has those details for us. Good morning, Selena. Good morning, Robin. The White House is calling this the strongest action that any government has taken on artificial intelligence safety and security.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Today, the president is signing an executive order that would require developers working on the most powerful AI models to share their safety test results with the government before releasing their products to the public. It also includes developing standards for ethically using AI and for detecting AI-generated content and labeling it as such. But this is just the start to tackling the many dangers of AI as it rapidly advances. The technology threatens jobs by replacing human tasks. It makes it far easier to spread misinformation and to steal people's data. The White House is also urging Congress to do more, to pass bipartisan privacy legislation. And the White House making clear that this isn't just America's problem,
Starting point is 00:03:51 but that the U.S. needs to work with the world to set standards here. Yes, yes, we're so good at working with the world. We need to work with the world. That was the worst report I've heard so far. Who is this woman? She's some woman for Good Morning America. The best report, who really was Deutsche Welle, because it's not just the executive order.
Starting point is 00:04:12 It comes just a few days before the big summit in the United Kingdom at the home of the codebreakers. Yeah, that's where I get my clips from. This one from Deutsche Welle, it really killed me. So one of the godfathers of Ai, of Ai, Joshua Bengio is here, and he said...
Starting point is 00:04:29 Who? Josiah Bengio, one of the godfathers. He's a godfather? A godfather? He's a godfather? A godfather? So one of the godfathers of Ai,
Starting point is 00:04:37 of Ai, Joshua Bengio is here, and... Bengio! This lady, by the way, I don't know what kind of assignment she got, but she, you know, her hair is just, it's a blonde lady. It's like she didn't do her hair this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's just not a good look standing out front of that English countryside home. Home of the code breakers. He said that in the future, artificial intelligence could help spread misinformation quickly, destabilize democracy. But also, bioweapons can basically be built by people at home. Bioweapons! AI will help people build bioweapons at home in your kitchen sink! There are really massive risks involved. And Richard Sunak has assembled these tech brains, really, from across the world, delegation from China we're hearing is here,
Starting point is 00:05:35 and all the major Western democracies and tech entrepreneurs to actually come to a baseline, a guardrail, really, to see where are the most extreme risks from artificial intelligence and what can governments do about it, really, to see where are the most extreme risks from artificial intelligence and where should governments, what can governments do about it? What can international bodies do about it? So before we get to your clips from the UK, President Biden did this big ceremony, a very long speech about all kinds of other things before he got to uh the ai executive order and uh oh caris swisher scott g were there because you know they're ai influencers it's very important that they get invited how can we never get invited to the white house we're influencers you should have
Starting point is 00:06:19 been invited by trump yeah yeah fat chance so this is really what it comes down to for um for the president to whoever is in charge of him uh it's all about it's all about the elections and deep fakes and he in this 26 second stand up he kind of said it all it's already happening ai devices are being used to deceive people. Deep fakes. Use AI-generated audio and video to smear reputations, speak or spread fake news, and commit fraud. With AI, fraudsters can take three-second, and you all know this,
Starting point is 00:06:58 three-second recording of your voice. I've watched one of me on a couple of panels. I said, when the hell did I say that? How would he know? Exactly. We laugh about the stuff that is real. In fact, someone sent me that clip and said, here's an obvious deep fake of Biden talking about deep fakes.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I'm like, no, he actually said that. But the, and just before we get into it, I think it's actually, now that they have, you know, because I read this whole executive order, I have some things to say about it later. It's actually a great way to, if you have control of it, it's a great way to use AI's misinformation to cover up actual facts. use AI's misinformation to cover up actual facts. I will give you an example because this is something that came across from, I think, France 24. Now you are, I would say, between the two of us certainly, but you're quite skilled at being able to tell if someone is using cocaine on a regular basis. Am I right? I mean, that's... Yeah, yeah, well, yeah. Now...
Starting point is 00:08:06 Zelensky. Yes, it has been your assertion from many videos that President Zelensky is probably a cokehead. Correct? And if you talk to Ukrainians, they all think he is too.
Starting point is 00:08:19 I'm not alone in this. So if you want to debunk it, all you have to do is say, oh, that's a deepfake AI. Tiana Lee reporting for us there. Well, it's time now for our daily fact-checking segment on the program. Daily fact-checking!
Starting point is 00:08:36 Truth or fake. And for that, I'm joined here in the studio. Wow, what an imaginative title. Truth or fake! We've been playing truth or fake for about five years. No, we haven't. I don't like the title where we've been on this we don't we don't actually call it truth or fake no that's what they france 24 has it that's what they call it i have no idea why they call it that is dumb or fake and for that i'm joined here in the studio by catalana marchand de abru thanks for joining us on the
Starting point is 00:09:01 program uh today we're talking about ukraine as I know you often do, Catalina. And President Zelensky, he's been accused of a drug addiction problem. So, true or fake? True or fake? Talking Ukraine, yes. We're going to address certain rumors on social media claiming that President Zelensky is addicted to cocaine. We will dispute these claims. You'll notice she switches back and forth between cocaine and then she's just like coke coke by pro-russian accounts uh oh it's pro
Starting point is 00:09:32 rush it's pro-russian accounts this deep fake so this is how this is how you do it you get your actual deep fake ready you put that out there because man dude, dude, Volodymyr, man, stop tooting so much. Now we got to go debunk that. Boys, let's get a deep fake out there. Okay. Let's just say, let's put it on some Russian accounts. To cocaine. We will disprove these claims made by pro-Russian accounts.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Starting with this. Not even pro-Russian accounts. Video from April 23rd, where we can see an alleged pile of coke and a credit card on a President Zelensky's desk during a video call with the man of the hour, Elon Musk. This phone call took place on March 6th, and this user claims that the cameraman accidentally filmed the pile of Coke on his desk. So more skeptical users on social media noticed that the credit card had a strange halo to it and hence claimed that it was digitally altered. And we can confirm indeed that this video was digitally altered. Indeed, here we have a Higgins who made a split screen video version of the altered video and the digitally altered one. They didn't even do this work.
Starting point is 00:10:51 They're just grabbing someone else's, you know. I'm liking this thesis of yours. Thank you. Because it's given me all kinds of ideas. Yes. Because what they're doing, this is very interesting dimensionally when it comes to deconstructing something. They're taking stuff that's obviously done as a joke, and that particular video was a joke because everyone knows he's a cokehead. So some joker put this on there,
Starting point is 00:11:20 and they're using that to debunk the fact that he's a cokehead. Not that that video is a fake. But the whole thesis that he's a cokehead is bullcrap, when in fact that's not. Yeah. So they're taking, this is very, very interesting. Yes. And this is exactly where this is going to go. What you said, which is that they're going to use, you know, joke stuff. And that's not even a deep fake.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's just somebody doing some video, you know, Tom foolery. Yes. Which is what the most you could call it, putting the pile of coke on his desk. And by the way, the pile of coke was huge. Yeah, of course. So, you know, it wasn't done as a gag, but it wasn't done as a gag, you know, just out of the blue because somebody thought it was funny. Just because he's a coke head and they thought it would be funny to point it out. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Exactly. Now, and I have one more and then I want you to play your clips because I'm going to set it up because if we have this we just heard the smartest minds in tech the the brilliantest people and this is the house where the code breakers were alan turing was here this is the place this is the mecca the origins of ai and who do you send kamala harris the u.s vice president kamala harris has challenged governments around the world to come up with a common set of understandings on artificial intelligence. In a speech at a global gathering on the issue in England. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You send her. Well, everyone knows. But yeah, but what do you suppose is for a common what of understanding? A common what? Let's listen again. Artificial intelligence. Let's hear it again. Around the world to come up with a common set of understandings on artificial intelligence.
Starting point is 00:13:05 A common set of understandings. A common set of understandings. What does that even mean? I think it means definitions, and I'll get into that after your clips. In a speech at a global gathering on the issue in England, Harris said countries needed to address the full spectrum of the risks posed by the new technology. needed to address the full spectrum of the risks posed by the new technology. She said a new U.S. institution could act as a model for others to test the safety of AI.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And she added that now is the time to take action and ensure that artificial intelligence is safe for the future. Just as AI has the potential to do profound good. Like what? It also has the potential to do profound good. Like what? It also has the potential to cause profound harm. Notice how they rarely say what the good things are. It's only, ooh, scary. From AI-enabled cyber attacks at a scale beyond anything we've seen before. Woo!
Starting point is 00:13:59 Cyber attacks at a scale beyond anything we've seen before. Like denial of service. What's the mechanism for AI creating the biggest cyber attack that we've ever seen? We've seen some whoppers. Yeah, we've seen some really good ones. Yeah. And by the way, most hacks are human hacks, psychology hacks, not cyber. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:14:25 To AI-formulated bioweapons. Woo! AI is going to put a bioweapon together. Has there even been one? No. That could endanger the lives of millions of people. Oh, like COVID. You mean like COVID-19 that our own government developed? Like COVID.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Is it going to be that bad or worse? I think so. Threats are often referred to as the existential threats of AI. Whoa, often referred to. John, we got to get on board with this. We have to get on board with the often referred to existential threats from AI. That means we're going to die from AI. Because, of course, they could endanger the very existence of humanity.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Oh, of course. Of course. You just said it so cavalierly. Of course. He just says it so cavalierly. Of course. These threats, without question, are profound. Without question. And they demand global action. Without question.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Stop questioning me. Well, as the U.S. Vice President called for urgent action from the threat from AI, Britain published what it says is a landmark declaration aimed at boosting global cooperation to ensure the safety of artificial intelligence. The declaration, agreed by 28 countries, including the US and China, was presented on the opening day of the first ever Global AI Safety Summit, which takes place in the UK. The British government says the Bletchley Declaration will act as a starting point for a global conversation on the issue.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Speaking to the BBC, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said monitoring the risks posed by artificial intelligence was too important to be left to big tech firms alone. You know, I'm sick of these declarations. So now they have the Bletchley Declaration. We need a declaration. We need our own declaration. We call it the Podunk Declaration or whatever. No, we have to give it something, a cool name, not Podunk. Well, okay, now it's the Bletchley Declaration.
Starting point is 00:16:13 We'll come up with something. And they affirm, affirm that whilst. You have to affirm. Everyone has to affirm. We have to come up with a declaration, and we have to affirm. And it has to begin with, we affirm. We affirm. We affirm whilst whilst you got to put whilst in there these are good terms whilst safety must be considered across i think
Starting point is 00:16:34 fredericksburg is a good name for a declaration declaration yes berkeley's also not bad no no no the berkeley declaration no no no it sounds too late you're right it immediately sounds like some sort of communist fredericksburg sounds kind of nazi you know it's kind of yes okay so whilst safety must be considered across the ai life cycle actors actors are in this what are actors doing i thought they were on strike. This shouldn't be working. Actors developing frontier AI capabilities, in particular those AI systems which are unusually powerful
Starting point is 00:17:14 and potentially harmful. They make it sound like terrorists are using this stuff. Have a particularly strong... To do what? To do drawings? To write long essays? Look, here's six fingers. Have a particularly strong responsibility
Starting point is 00:17:31 for ensuring the safety of these AI systems, including through systems for safety testing, through evaluations, and by other appropriate measures. We encourage all relevant actors to provide context appropriate transparency and blah blah so here's it comes down to these two points in the context of our cooperation and to inform what are you reading from i'm reading from the bletchley declaration oh okay yeah come on i
Starting point is 00:17:57 mean this is a declaration i like reading declarations you know it's like the declaration i do declare that's where it should start no we affirm that whilst in the context of our cooperation and to inform action at the national and international levels our agenda for addressing frontier ai risk it's frontier ai risk we'll focus on two points identifying ai safety risks of shared concern, building a shared scientific and evidence-based understanding of these risks, which we did not hear, and sustaining that understanding as capabilities continue to increase in the context of a wider global approach to understanding the impact of AI in our societies.
Starting point is 00:18:41 That was written by ChatGPT. There's no doubt about it. And two, building respective risk based policies across our countries to ensure safety in light of such risks collaborating as appropriate while recognizing our approaches may differ based on national circumstances and applicable legal frameworks this includes alongside increased transparency by private actors developing frontier ai capabilities appropriate evaluation frontier thing
Starting point is 00:19:07 oh crap you know you might be right because I took this Bletchley thing listening to all the clips about and the clips I brought as a drinking club because they went up to this and they keep talking about how pretty it is
Starting point is 00:19:22 it's idyllic we're in idyllic Bletchley. And there's a bunch of losers, and it's a drinking club. And I wouldn't be surprised if, as a joke, because I would do it, let's have ChatGPT write the declaration. We'll have it write a Bletchley declaration. Exactly. Let's play your clips.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I got some more after that. All right. This is kind of a rundown. They don't go anywhere, of course, because nothing really comes of any of this stuff it's just a bunch of ninnies running around with their hair on fire but let's start with clip one delegates from 28 countries including the u.s and china gathered today at a bucolic english country estate they gathered to sound an alarm about AI, artificial intelligence. They pledged to work together to contain what they call the potentially catastrophic risks posed by this technology. Well, NPR's Lauren Frayer has been covering this two-day summit of politicians and tech CEOs.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Hey there, Lauren. Hi. I want to start with a very basic question. When we say they're gathered, they're talking AI. What do they mean? What has them so worried that they've all come together? Yeah, so there's a lot of talk about existential threats. And the UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has actually said he's literally worried about humanity losing control of computers.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Delegates are talking about the role of AI in bioweapons, cyber attacks, making the global financial system go haywire, threats to democracy. But AI is also stuff that like you might be familiar with, language models, things like chat GPT, Google Translate, and also tools that like your bank may be using to evaluate loan applications, read your medical records. Vice President Kamala Harris is in town for this summit, and she gave a speech today at the U.S. Embassy in London where she gave some real-world examples. Consider, for example, when a senior is kicked off his health care plan
Starting point is 00:21:17 because of a faulty AI algorithm. Is that not existential for him? Oh, goodness. Ex not existential for him? Oh, goodness. Existential for him. Of course I cut it there because she's annoying. Because she's an idiot. Now this has happened with just casually.
Starting point is 00:21:36 This happens all the time. This has nothing to do with AI. No, it's a stupid algorithm that's already in use. So some guy got kicked off his healthcare plan. he has to go through a rigmarole to get it that's like losing your credit score being off because of whatever or somebody stealing your identity none of this has anything to do with ai it's real world issues that have been going on forever and now it's just going to be easier to blame it on ai yep so anyway so this
Starting point is 00:22:02 is the npr report that i thought they handled it kind of lightly, like they weren't taking it too seriously, and they were more interested in the fact that it's bucolic to be out there in Bletchley. Bucolic. You know, you go to these places, there's plenty of them in the English countryside, and they have meetings in them. I've been to more than a couple when I was writing for PC Magazine UK. And it's gorgeous. You know, you go in there and it's just these beautiful places and it's a drinking club. You know what you can hear there? A rustle in the hedgerow. All right. Number two. So she talks about people being victimized by deep fakes,
Starting point is 00:22:42 like fake explicit photographs or people have been thrown in prison because of biased ai facial recognition software bias so she talks about the need to regulate all of that stuff without stifling innovation yeah that's the challenge okay so we've got the american vice president there the british prime minister prime minister sunak everybody talking about it i guess the question that's always hanging over this is what can they actually do? What are they going to do? Yeah, so they can issue a joint declaration, which they did today. But, you know, there's no global regulatory body. There's nothing binding here. This summit is a success in terms of just bringing these people together. And it goes beyond politicians. I consulted an AI expert, Nina Schick, and she says a major role is going to have to be played by U.S. tech companies.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Who is this Nina Schick? When did she come on the scene? Nina Schick. Yeah, we got another one. Here she comes. Primarily because the knowledge in terms of what is actually happening, how are these systems built, what's under the hood, who can understand them, is not going to come from government alone industry needs to be a part of this conversation and so to that end elon musk hold on a second nina schick who looks like she's about 30 bit of an aoc look nina schick.org nina schick okay hold on author, and speaker specializing in generative AI.
Starting point is 00:24:06 She has... Out of the blue? Oh, yeah. Deep fakes. Let's see deep fakes. What does she have? Deep fakes are the first viral form of generative AI. This is where the story begins.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Oh, she's an expert. But what's her bio, Nina Schick? Yeah. Nina Schick. Where's your bio? Oh, she doesn't... Yeah, she does have an AI. AOC.
Starting point is 00:24:27 She has an AI. She looks like AI. Yes, she does. She looks a little like AOC. Nina advises several AI and technology companies, including TruePic, the first to build media authentication technology and Synthesia, the world's first. This is interesting. She was born in Kathmandu.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Ah, not to be trusted. Nepal. Nina's debut book, Deep Fakes, was released in 2020. Translated into five languages. She's a seasoned media commentator. Oh, can we call ourselves that? I'm a seasoned media commentator. Just so you know. Put some salt on you. It's not going to come from government alone. Industry needs to be a part of this conversation. She has advised leaders, including Joe Biden, the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:25:13 That must have been a kick. And Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the former secretary general of NATO. She speaks seven languages and calls London, Berlin, and Kathmandu home. She's an agent. I wouldn't have her on the show wait let me think london berlin and katmandu is her where she calls home yeah three homes yeah yeah but mi6 she graduated from cambridge so i'm going in my six there we go let's uh let's listen to her again and be quiet primarily because the knowledge in terms of what is actually happening, how are these systems built, what's under the hood, who can understand them, is not going to come from government alone. Industry needs to be a part of this conversation.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And so to that end, Elon Musk is participating. Representatives of Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft are all attending this summit. Well, and that prompts me to ask you about the venue I mentioned at the top. They were all meeting in this somewhat unlikely setting, a bucolic English country estate. This is not just any English country estate, though. Explain. It's gorgeous. It's gorgeous. Gorgeous. It's gorgeous, I tell you.
Starting point is 00:26:22 It's bucolic. What does bucolic even mean? It means it's a mind kind of. I like idyllic. It's only different. It's got more birds. And there's chirping. I saw chirping and there's like deer.
Starting point is 00:26:42 There's like a lamb, you know, in a very green field. Just a lamb? A lamb and maybe a horse. Oh, man, wasn't that... No goats? No, goats are generally not in bucolic because they make too much racket. Indeed, the definition is idyllic rustic, a pleasant bucolic scene.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Speak English, lady. Bucolic. Okay. So I don't know how we ended there, but let's go to clip three. It's gorgeous. It's called Bletchley Park. It's a sprawling brick and stone manor house. And it was once the top secret home of World War II code breakers, where some of the sort of best and brightest mathematicians, including one named Alan Turing, cracked the Nazis' Enigma code and helped win the war.
Starting point is 00:27:27 The 2014 movie Imitation Game is there. And so Bletchley had a role in the birthplace of some of the earliest programmable computers. And the questions that Alan Turing asked at Bletchley literally 85 years ago, can computers think? Can they imitate humans? are being talked about again in that very same venue fascinating fascinating john is fascinating fascinating fascinating well not everybody is on board with this um the in fact the the co-founder of google brain Of Google Brain, which merged, I guess, with IBM's Big Blue something. He says, and this is in the Business Insider,
Starting point is 00:28:10 big tech companies are inflating fears about the risks of AI wiping out humanity because they want to dominate the market. Of course. He's got the right idea. Of course. And what else is new? Andrew Ng, an adjunct professor at Stanford University, soon to be ex-adjunct professor at Stanford University. He's out.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Who taught OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. He taught the guy, told the Australian Financial Review that the biggest tech companies hope to trigger strict regulation with, quote, the bad idea that ai could make us go extinct they are definitely there are definitely large tech companies that would rather not have to try to compete with open source so they're creating fear of ai leading to human extinction now remember the lambda model was put out by meta in open source And now I'm running AI in my own little Raspberry Pi here at home with the same models. Well, not the same, but, you know, the same chat GPT-3 models. I have that for sure and probably a little bit above that.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And he's not the only one that says this is bull crap. Here's, what is her name? This is Meredith Whitaker. she's the president of signal she was at a washington post ai summit and here's what she had to say but generative ai is not actually that useful what happened in january was that technology or sort of a framework for building models that had been developed in 2017 was sort of put online with an interface by Microsoft slash OpenAI who have to be understood as the same entity, right? And the chat GPT interface kind of gave people a simulated experience of like, oh my God, I'm talking to kind of a human.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's spitting out nonsense, but it's spitting it out. And this feels kind of sentient, right? And on the backs of this advertisement for their GPT-8. I like her a lot, but the right thing is rampant. Yeah, I would sell through their Azure cloud services. They sort of generated an entire new hyped narrative around generative AI as this sort of future facing technology that's going to change every industry. But what does it do, right? It, you know, presents visual images that are often, you know, stolen from artists or, like, far too close for comfort. And it presents plausible text, right? It infers what's the plausible response to a prompt based on, you know, mountains of data from the internet,
Starting point is 00:30:39 the Reddits, the 4chans, you know, the Stormfront is in there, as Natasha's work has shown, you know, and kind of presents text that looks plausible, but has no relationship to facts, has no relationship to reality, has no citations, right? So what is this useful for? It's not useful in most serious contexts. Yeah, you could, you know, replace a junior copywriter, but you better have a senior copywriter who's checking that text because it's going to be janky. your copywriter who's checking that text because it's going to be janky i i love the term janky that she's right yes my teeth used to be janky janky is a very valid term so she's completely right i spent um two days really trying to figure out what they were trying to do with this executive order it is a monstrous executive order When they had those behind closed doors meetings with Chuck Schumer, I think every single
Starting point is 00:31:32 tech CEO or the smartest brains and people in the universe had their lobbyists there to write this thing. And from what I can tell, they completely are writing what the Google Brain co-founder guy says. We don't want anyone competing with us. That's exactly what I see. But I think it's even worse because they have defined certain terms to be so broad that you can pretty much say, if you start a social media network and it is of X size, which would mean it would be competing with them, and they go right down to the number of machines, how many gigabits of bandwidth between these machines, what kind of computational power it would have, which kind of equals Amazon, AWS services, Google Cloud, Azure, all this stuff, then you would be deemed artificial intelligence and thus would have to adhere to the regulation. These guys, they know that they have
Starting point is 00:32:34 nothing left. They got nothing in the pipeline. They have, you know, advertising is on the downturn. It may come back up again, but it's not going to be what it was they wanted to solidify their spot with this bullcrap which costs just as much as they might make off there's no advertising business model that we've seen yet but yet this is oh oh we need all kinds of incredible uh money and and institutions and the government to be all over this to protect the people from the horrible things that could go wrong if you're as big as we are. So they've defined these terms. And the three that I think are most important are these. Artificial intelligence. So this is now a temporarily legal definition of what artificial intelligence is because it's an executive order
Starting point is 00:33:26 of course the next president comes in can get rid of it and i hope whoever it is does the term artificial intelligence or ai has the meaning set forth in 15 u.s code 94013 i'll get to that in a moment colon a machine-based system that can for a given set of human defined objectives make predictions recommendations or decisions influencing real or virtual environments well bull crap that's an algo that's literally an algo artificial intelligence systems use machine and human-based inputs so it's not autonomous to perceive real and virtual environments abstract such perceptions into models through analysis in an automated manner and use model inference to formulate options for information or action what does that sound like to you?
Starting point is 00:34:31 What? Well, listen to this clip, and it's right in here. It's here that the first ever global summit on AI safety is taking place, bringing together top officials from 28 countries with executives from cutting edge tech firms. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak hoping to position the UK as a leader in the rapidly developing field. Why not? There can be no serious strategy for AI without at least trying to engage all of the world's leading AI powers. Sunak is pushing for a global AI regulation advisory board based on the UN's intergovernmental panel on climate change oh brother they want it they want to regulate they want a un body yeah and like climate change ipcc which is a bonanza
Starting point is 00:35:15 of money government money this is what they want yes more meetings all around the world. COP 29 is on deck. Oh, man. They want to have fun, fun, fun. And they want... Drinking club. Yes. But a very profitable drinking club. Look at...
Starting point is 00:35:35 Oh, yeah. Look at how we've been... Why just drink when you can make money while you're drinking? Look at how we've been frightened into believing climate change is all... It's the same terminology we can we can just guess exactly what they're going to say and exactly what they're going to do so i thought it would be fun to put this definition through my own ai running here at home and ask what it thought of it well the ai which is probably equivalent to GPT 3.5, says this definition
Starting point is 00:36:07 is quite broad, but it also captures a wide range of technologies under its umbrella term artificial intelligence. For example, natural language processing systems use AI technologies to analyze textual inputs from humans in order to make predictions. There's your Siri. No more Siri, not on scale, not at our scale. No more Siri. Not on scale. Not at our scale. Then you have to go through regulations. Similarly, machine learning algorithms can be used for predictive modeling and decision-making tasks that involve data analysis of real-world events
Starting point is 00:36:35 such as weather patterns or stock market trends. They want to corner the market. And they will. With this stupid administration, we'll write this up. The next definition, the term AI model. According to the executive order, the AI model means a component of an information system that implements AI technology and uses computational, statistical, or machine learning techniques to produce outputs from a given set of inputs isn't this the basis of computing i'm asking you is this not yes it is this is this is insane what
Starting point is 00:37:14 these people are talking about well it is this is i i so i looked over that thing and i thought there was one onerous moment in the whole document that i was perked me up sure what was anybody involved in any of this even even at the lowest level it says in that document that all red team results yes have to be turned over to the government now for people out there who want to know what that means, there's things called penetration testing, where you check to see how strong your systems are. And then there's a thing, which I don't know why they named it this,
Starting point is 00:37:55 but it's called Red Team. And Red Team goes beyond penetration testing. Kobol, I think, gets involved in this. Yes, what he does. Because he gets hired, and he has to literally to literally in some instances break into a company. Yeah. You know, illegally, but it's legal, but it's illegal at the same time. Break into the company and then go and fish around in their systems. of any red team analysis are so they're so proprietary and dangerous that you're giving
Starting point is 00:38:30 the government the back door to your entire system if you do that and they're now requiring it by this executive order i found that to be just overlooked by everybody and extremely onerous. They should be sued for it. This executive order is no good. Oh, no. It's completely written by lobbyists and donors and lobbyists. I love the term generative AI, which is a class of AI models that emulate the structure and characteristics of input data in order to generate derived synthetic content. This can include images, videos, audio, text, and other digital content.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And then they go into this whole section about who has to give the red team results to the government. And it's basically anybody who's trying to compete with them. Literally, they talk about if you have so many integer calculations per second, so many billions of billions of rows in your model. I mean, it's unbelievable. No, you're right. This is a scam perpetrated by Meta and Google. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And who, and maybe, I don't know. Microsoft. Microsoft. Microsoft, right. Microsoft, Meta, and Google, the big three. It's like the digital Patriot Act, this thing is. It's like, ah, give it all to us. We control you now.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah. And then, of course, to get the public on board, well, let's roll out some fun human interest stories, shall we? 53 years after splitting up, they're back. It's a reunion few could have imagined since only two are still alive. But the Beatles are releasing a new single featuring all four band members thanks to artificial intelligence. It's the last song that my dad and Paul and George and Ringo will get to make together. Now and Then was written and sung by John Lennon in the late 1970s. 24 years later, his widow,
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yoko Ono, gave the demo to Paul McCartney. But back then, it was impossible to separate Lennon's vocals and piano to work alongside new recorded parts. Last year, AI made that possible. Paul called me up and said he'd like to work on now and then. He put the bass on, I put the drums on. In the city of Liverpool where it all began, fans are eager to hear the result. I can't wait to hear the song. I hope it's done tastefully. I hope it is bringing about something that they have created together collaboratively and the technology just makes it happen. It was in this room that the Beatles performed for the very first time.
Starting point is 00:41:09 The venue and the city itself attracts fans from around the world. But wait! The physical release of Now and Then also comes ahead of new editions of the Beatles' Red Album and Blue Album, expanded to cover their entire singles discography. So this is now artificial intelligence. Which audio guys have been able to do this. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Thank you. For decades. Thank you. And even on demos, Sir George Martin was well known. He was one of the first guys that did multi-tracks. They have multi-tracks. Or as we call it today, stems. And even that, you can go online.
Starting point is 00:41:47 There's open, I'll tell you which is. There's an open source, value for value even, based system called, well, there it is, vocalremover.org. And you can throw in any song you want and you can remove the music or remove the vocals with AI. And this is what they want to stop. The fact that some dude, open source, you can do that, you little puny man, vocalremover.org.
Starting point is 00:42:16 You can take your little donations for that, but don't you try to compete with us because then you'll have to red team your results. That's what this it's it's disgusting this should be that someone should challenge this we need to challenge this with the fredericksburg declaration i think the fredericksburg declaration should should we can do more than one of these oh yeah so let's make this one specifically about that executive order okay i like it i like the idea we need to do something i mean we need to take a stand we need to take a stand what we need to take a stand you me what do what now moving on did you see the arc um conference this weekend that was taking place in in the o2 arena in england in london do you know no i have nothing i know nothing about the arc conference in the o in the o2 arena oh
Starting point is 00:43:21 this is which is a nice arena well it's not in the it wasn't in the arena itself but it was you know one of the one of the little room nearby a little room nearby but it sounds good the o2 this is the alliance for responsible citizenship this is jordan peterson's um anti-world economic forum thing. You haven't followed this at all? I have not followed this at all. I've not followed much of what Peterson's been up to because ever since he became this angry man. Yeah, so...
Starting point is 00:43:57 Ever since he got off drugs, almost killed himself getting off drugs, he's become this grouch. He got really boring after he got off the drugs. So this is very, it's a bit polarizing because of the people involved. So it really was spearheaded by him and what is the name?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Baroness Filippa something or other. Baroness Filippa something or other. Baroness Filippa. And they've pretty much gathered a whole lot of alternative media people. Were we invited? No, no. Filippa Stroud. There you go. Baroness Filippa Stroud, who is the co-founder and CEO of ARC.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Member of the House of Lords. chair of the Social Metrics Commission. And it's interesting because they have a lot. It sounds really good on paper. And, you know, it's like, let me just give you their. Actually, I have their pitch. their pitch but about arc the alliance for responsible citizenship is an international community with a vision for a better world where every citizen can prosper contribute and flourish didn't carl mark say something similar you know i am by people look at the and then they had live stream all weekend there's videos this is the most important speech you've ever heard. You know, they had
Starting point is 00:45:25 Ayaan Hirshiali on a panel. Peterson led the whole thing. He had the most heinous jacket on where half was red, half was blue. Oh yeah, he's wearing this half and half jacket. It's hideous. Yeah, I've seen it a couple times and it's like, why are you
Starting point is 00:45:42 wearing this? No, it's just no. Do you want to hear a little bit of their promo reel? Yes, I do. I'm sorry, I'm still saying no to the jacket. The jacket is a hard pass. Just no to the jacket. We at the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship do not believe that humanity is necessarily
Starting point is 00:46:04 and inevitably teetering on the brink of apocalyptic disaster we do not believe that we are beings primarily motivated by lust for power and the desire to dominate we do not regard ourselves or our fellow citizens as destructive forces living in an alien relationship to the pristine and pure natural. Are you saying something? I didn't say anything. No. The world.
Starting point is 00:46:30 If you look out into the world at the moment, there are a series of narratives out there, these stories that we're telling ourselves that are actually determining a lot of our global behavior. If you've got children, you're exposed to some of this in a really visceral way. And you see your children coming home fearful about the future. It's this sort of cataclysmic belief that the future is dangerous. And somehow we are to blame. There is an epidemic mental health crisis worldwide, in great part due to the breakdown of the social fabric and confusion over values, where economic prosperity, work and materialism is prioritized over family. And so the despair that we see around us, right, the breakdown of all these social connections is related to a vision of the human being, which sees the person as just a consumer promoting that reducing
Starting point is 00:47:27 humans to consumers or criticizing it and criticizing humans for being parasites on the world okay so that's kind of the the the issue part of this promo reel i am not a fan of music like this you know big bombastic yeah this is a lower key music played this, you know, big bombastic stuff. Yeah, it's also lower key music played in a kind of a sad note. It's just to get, to elicit an emotional response to the words being said. And what would you
Starting point is 00:47:56 do in the next piece with the music? Well, if I was playing that at the beginning, which is the bad side, I would play the up-tempo stuff to say how much what you're going to do. But what is a better story? What is the better story that we can we can tell that will enable us to walk forward the way we need to walk forward as societies and nations? That is really going to be the big theme.
Starting point is 00:48:22 This is really going to be the big theme. Bringing the violins. It's time to bring a more optimistic vision and to believe in ourselves, in our civilization, in the things that made it such an extraordinary civilization. We need to formulate a different vision of humans. Humans that exist in love with each other, that are submitted to the transcendent good, and that can work together towards a better future. The rejection of our traditional beliefs have not produced viable alternative narratives, only deconstructionist theories. We must reinvigorate our sense of citizenship. We must encourage one another to serve, to step up,
Starting point is 00:49:17 to lead with courage wherever leadership is needed. The ARC network, that I am a part of, will seek to address these goals and more. If we get this right, if we can give people confidence again in our identity as people and communities and nations, then we'll start to reverse some of the more negative trends that have accompanied the more positive ones. So hopefully it can have a very long lasting impact. Right now, I'm very hopeful. That music got me all hopeful. I'm up. How about you? Are you up? You feeling up? God, no.
Starting point is 00:49:44 There's also a lot of religious imagery, iconic type things. You can hear there's an undertone of that, although they never specifically address it. And here's the payoff. This is the last beats, a little shorter of the promo reel. This is, I guess, what they're going to do. They're going to tell us now, I mean, this is horrible. We have a mental health crisis, not because all our children are on SSRIs. Obviously, telling people about climate change is frightening and it frightens the kids and we're all going to die.
Starting point is 00:50:14 But we need to step up, step up as citizens. And what is ARC going to do for us? ARC is emerging already as a wonderful community of people who are just full of hope for the way forward and want to bring in a different culture and a different vision for where we can go as a people. I believe in great minds meeting and looking together for solutions. You cannot overestimate the impact of an idea. There is a greater narrative that we can all chime in on for the things that we all want together, which is human flourishing, human prosperity, human well-being, all moored to hope.
Starting point is 00:50:58 We posit that men and women of faith and decisiveness, made in the image of God, that men and women of faith and decisiveness, made in the image of God, can arrange their affairs with care and attention, so that abundance and opportunity could be available for all. We hope to encourage the development of an alternative pathway, uphill, out of both tyranny and the desert, stabilizing, unifying, and compelling to men and women of sound judgment and free will. Welcome aboard the Ark.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Oh, my God. You know, Peterson is going to be so, when he comes to his senses, is going to be so embarrassed by this utopian bull crap that he's part of, that he's going to have to go on an apology tour i mean he's that is the worst thing i've ever heard he is he so there's these shots of him standing you know over a huge canyon and there's a drone shot and he's standing there almost like moses i mean peterson may be the antichrist for all we know but i i did a little bit of research and i and i say that only in biblical context because this is something
Starting point is 00:52:06 really really irks me about what's going on here but now looking because this is a massive conference there's money behind this so first um a little bit yeah okay i found out for us um so the alliance for responsible citizenship was launched by Peterson, includes what we call public intellectuals, Arthur Brooks, Niall Ferguson, Bjorn Lomberg. Oh, yeah. The old public intellectual term, which is fairly recent, by the way, and more or less created by guys like Peterson. Yes. Like the intellectual dark web. When I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Oh, yeah. When I was a kid. Here we i was a kid here we go there was no such thing as a public i never heard the term public intellectual until about a decade ago well in fact i should check it out on a google engram and i'm sure public intellectual is a fairly new creation i'll do that while you're talking so this is the group behind this is the legatum group the legatum institute l-e-g-a-t-u-m okay and the legatum institute um was described by the financial times as the intellectual heart of brexit so this is where all this is coming from oh okay and they also are connected to gb news which makes total sense so you know we've got all the gb news you know that's the thing
Starting point is 00:53:33 that mark stein was on and oh you know they have fun fun stories it's definitely a counter narrative in the uk but so you know so I mean, this feels like Russell Brand, this feels, I mean, it feels like all of these kind of people. And if you look at the advisory board, let me see if I can find some interesting people here. So Arthur C. Brooks, he's a William Henry Bloombergry bloomberg professor we've got barry strauss military historian on ancient greece bjorn lomberg um you know with the copenhagen consensus think tank we've got oh dan crenshaw ipatch mccain he's in there um well it's a james or associate professor philosophy of religion we've got uh oh would you look at that we've got
Starting point is 00:54:26 mike johnson our new speaker of the house he's a member of it michael schellenberger of course part of the westminster declaration mike lee senator mike lee from utah isn't he a spook um there's you know so nile ferguson uh philippa stroud i mean it's just it's it is into tony abbott victor davis hansen vivek ramaswamy oh and winston marshall a grammy award-winning musician it's just like i'm missing yo-yo ma that's the only one they didn't get in there you didn't dig deep enough can i let me stop you with this thing my comment which was I've got the N-gram up for public intellectual. The term never existed before 1985 and has grown just kind of exponentially
Starting point is 00:55:12 and peaked in 2003 and now is leveled off at a very high rate. So it's some new thing. So when we start seeing these new terms introduced all of a sudden, and people are in the group suddenly and never existed before, I would say that something's up with that. So the Legatum Institute is funded by the Legatum Group,
Starting point is 00:55:39 which includes an investment firm, Legatum Capital, run out of the United Arab Emirates. Oh, a UAE operation. Yes. And they fund things like the Freedom Fund, the Ebola Crisis Fund. Oh, they got tons of money. They also, they have a lot of money. There's a money grab by these public intellectuals.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Okay, well, good for them. They also have a stance on climate change. The population growth, not capitalism, is the biggest cause of climate change. The best way to save the planet is to give women more control over their own fertility. So there's all kinds of things here that I just don't like. It's funny. Troll says, Curry sounds jealous. Now, believe me,
Starting point is 00:56:25 I'm not jealous of this at all. Jealous of what? I don't know, but I think we're looking at some false... That we haven't latched on to one of these money sinkholes? I think that there's false idols here that we need to be careful of, and I was totally irked
Starting point is 00:56:41 when I saw Eva Flardingerbruck, who is the cute Dutch blonde who rose to fame through Tucker Carlson during the Dutch farmer protests. Oh, right. That group. Yeah. And you, I think, were's part of the PragerU. So, you know, she's... Oh, PragerU.
Starting point is 00:57:13 So this is the group, you know, and they interviewed her. And I was actually I'm kind of happy because what she said here mirrors, I think, my initial thinking about, you know, so what is this group really doing? I totally understand they got her on board. I mean, Peterson is a very, you know, he's a very convincing guy. I can see where people just get all on board with him. But even, you know, ever since the drugs since the drugs, he uses a lot of words. There's no joking anymore. There's no fun.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It's all just blah. Anyway, I wanted to play this little piece by her because I think this is exactly what this group is because in the watching for two days i saw no absolutely zero ideas or solutions or here's what we're going to do other than we're the public intellectuals we recognize a problem yeah do a podcast i'm here um obviously when jordan peterson announced that he was starting a counter-movement, basically, to the World Economic Forum, it immediately sparked my interest. Because although I'm not a fan, necessarily, of centralized organizations, the essence of this is not that. It's actually to bring together people who look at power in a more decentralized, more nationalist way,
Starting point is 00:58:41 bring them together to fight, again, a global agenda, right? So it's in essence the opposite idea of the World Economic Forum, even though we do have to conspire together, you know, in order to exchange ideas. And I really like that because of the fact that it's active, you know, we're doing something. And there's a lot of talk on the conservative side, but this is something where people can actually join and exchange ideas and take action and hopefully spread the word beyond social media. So I really like it for that reason. The focus, obviously, on responsible citizenship is a very different idea than what the world economic foreign predicates uh they for them all of the
Starting point is 00:59:28 political ideology that they're based on everything left-wing anyway anything neo-marxist is always it's always outside of yourself right it's always the system that is oppressive it's a racism or the patriarchy or anything climate you know it's always anything that is outside of your own control. And I think what Peterson opened with today, saying, no, you have agency over your own life and that's where you need to get started, is a really good message and one that we desperately need.
Starting point is 00:59:55 So I'm curious to see how this will develop and what will come from a meeting like this. Because it can't just be talking. We need to be wary of that but i really really like the idea yeah it's it's just talking you know the other thing is she kind of her comment that this is the the counter to the world economic forum kind of belies the fact that the world economic forum is until recently really brought together uh prime minister, CEOs of major corporations that had influence, secretaries of state, secretaries of finance, World Bank guys. It was like done for – it was an economic forum.
Starting point is 01:00:38 It's only recently that it's become this screwy thing. this screwy thing and that's not what these guys this is a bunch of public quote-unquote public intellectuals who quote who in my opinion are just blowhards that like to talk and they mike hoggs in many instances and it's it's it's point and what's the point of it what's it supposed to do oh we we take control of our own lives yeah i mean and the world economic forums against it yeah this is not the way things are really structured the world economic forum and all these things we talk about are largely a joke so this is a counter joke well and because i was talking to tina about it she says well you know it it is it is, at least it's not, you know, they're against the World Economic Forum. But yeah, but what are they really saying?
Starting point is 01:01:30 It's like, you know, they're kind of half, there's a half Catholic Christian vibe to it, which is not really spoken of. um but but then it's like you know be the individual be the you know that either all in on that or not be the individual be an upstanding citizen but don't be global i think you're right i think it feels like mike hoggs and and there's lots of money flowing into this there's a lot of money for it and you know the fact that the money comes from the same people who organize and politically organize Brexit means it's a political group. There's political money behind this. I'm not saying I disagree with Brexit. Obviously, I don't. I thought it was great.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I thought it was phenomenal to see that. But, you know, you got to be honest about it. The UAE money source just smells. money source just smells. Well, I'm looking at their website, too, and the website is the only way I can describe it. People should go to its Google Arc and you'll find it. It is corny. It is overproduced. All the stock art is corny.
Starting point is 01:02:47 It's just lame. It's super lame. And the fact that some of these people are attaching their names to this is just an embarrassment. Yeah, okay. What are they cutting here? There's like a running movie at the beginning
Starting point is 01:03:03 with the ARC of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. What does that even mean? That's what I'm talking about. It's these big structured sentences. Ben, I guess it sounds better if you're wearing a book. They're cutting grapes off of a vine. What does that have to do with anything? That's a biblical thing. That's a biblical thing that's a
Starting point is 01:03:25 biblical thing this is what i mean it's like this it's part part religious well that's the only biblical thing because they're showing somebody playing the piano somebody harvesting wheat couple of kids jumping up and down in a puddle i mean it the whole thing stinks. It stinks. No, I'm glad we agree. Because it bothers me. Wait a minute. You think that I would even think this was good? No, no. You boil it down to the truth of it.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It stinks. Well, I got it down to one word. It stinks. It stinks. You know, they're ideas. Restoring the foundations of our civilization. A better story for the future. Add restoring the foundations of our civilization, a better story for a better story for the future, addressing the challenges of our time, breaking the inevitable path. Yeah, OK. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Why we need a better story.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I know, but they left the one out soaking the UAE for as much as we can get. You know, but this is this has been my, like, the alternative media for a while. Everybody goes on each other's podcasts, you know, and I'll pull them all, you know, Megyn Kelly and Victor Davis Hanson and Tim Pool. And, you know, they just go around and around and around. And then they've created this belief. This vortex, this belief in themselves that they're that they're changing something yeah and it just doesn't feel legit you know look i know i know we're we're outside of that because we don't wear headphones
Starting point is 01:04:58 and have the mics on our face and in video that's why we'll never be a part of it but i don't think it's something you want to be a part of. It feels disingenuous. I can't put my finger on it other than what you said. It stinks. It stinks. It stinks of something weird. And I don't like the logo.
Starting point is 01:05:20 ARC, the A-R-C with the little thing shooting. And then welcome aboard the ARC. Okay, now we're Noah's arc yeah now yeah well there's your religious connection welcome aboard the arc now we're good to go
Starting point is 01:05:33 that's a pun which is the lowest form of humor anyway eyes on arc we gotta make sure we know what's going on this is gonna go nowhere well I mean okay Non-arc. We got to make sure we know what's going on. This is going to go nowhere. Well.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I mean, okay. I don't know. Well, that's a good find. I'll give you 10 points for that one. Well, thank you. I'll give you one point back. 10 point find. I'll give you one point back for the it stinks. So I'll take nine.
Starting point is 01:05:57 It stinks. You take one. It stinks. Okay. All right. What you got? Well, I'm just on this website it's bugging you isn't it what you got on mike johnson let's talk about mike johnson did you mention him yes i want to
Starting point is 01:06:13 talk about that's uh good i i caught uh kash patel who i really do like as an analyst oh you do do you i do do you really do like i do do like him as an analyst oh okay and i think do do. You really do like him. I do do like him as an analyst. Oh, okay. And I think do-do is the right word. And he is on NTD talking about what Johnson may or may not be able to accomplish. And I think it was worth listening to, and so I made a clip of it. Kash Patel, thank you so much for joining us. Good to be back on the show. The House has... And we said this is the new Speaker of the House, the crazy crazy religious guy elected a speaker who's a part of ark apparently if i know he's you know i can just
Starting point is 01:06:51 see mike johnson that's the one thing they're thinking bitch and moan about his religiosity and all the rest of it which he doesn't really exhibit at all except his haircut maybe but this ark thing bothers me yeah i mean if you're on the same website with the eyepatch McCain, Dan Crenshaw, I mean, you got some soul searching to do. Kash Patel, thank you so much for joining us. Good to be back on the show. The House has elected a speaker, Mike Johnson. He got unanimous consent from the Republicans. This is after three weeks without a speaker. Why do you think Mike Johnson won where Scalise, Jordan and Emmer failed? Look, this isn't an overnight process. You know, I know Speaker
Starting point is 01:07:30 Johnson. He's a great guy. We've worked together in the past. And in my opinion, what I think you saw is this notion that people who have been in Washington forever and co-opted by the lobbyists and defense industrial complex and big public interest, their tenure running Washington, D.C., at least for the Republican Party, has come to an end. And when we look back in the mirror and say, you know, whether or not you like what Representative Gates did or not, that was the instigating moment. And you saw a lot of people, especially in conservative media circles, rise up and actually participate in this conversation. And that's why I think you saw so many votes for different candidates beforehand. And what you saw in Speaker-elect Mike Johnson is a different candidate emerge, someone who will be critical of the establishment and who has in the past supported, you know, the establishment and who has in the past supported, you know, quite arduously President Trump and those other individuals don't have that track record.
Starting point is 01:08:30 So it's going to be a different speakership for sure. We'll just see if he's co-opted by the swamp or he takes the swamp over. No, that's a good point. That's a good point. He's young enough to be totally co-opted by the swamp. Yeah, he is. Could totally happen to him. But being a true religious person, the likelihood is less.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Because he's not guided by the greed. Or you'd hope. The enemy is always on the prowl. You never know. So here we go. Part two. To your point, during the 2020 election, Johnson voted against certifying the Electoral College votes in Arizona and Pennsylvania. And after Biden won the presidency, he called Trump, telling him to keep fighting. How do you see Johnson uniting the Republican Party, as it were? Well, the Republican Party has changed.
Starting point is 01:09:23 The Republican Party has jettisoned the likes of, whether you like them or dislike them, Liz Cheney, Adam Kinzinger, and other folks. The Republican Party has changed since Donald Trump became president. And a lot of people don't want to accept that, the Karl Roves of the world. But the reality is, it's the right of the Republican Party to change. And what you saw today in Speaker-elect Mike Johnson is a momentous, prodigious change in the way the Republican Party is shaped. And by the way, you also saw him win by a vote margin of 220. Every single Republican voted for him without the conditions that were attached to Speaker McCarthy's bid. bid. That must mean everyone in Congress at least has a huge amount of respect for him, but believes he'll get the job done. And I think the Republican Party will continue to change. It's not unlike the Democratic Party when it changes over time. This is allowed to happen in this country. And, you know, when Speaker Pelosi or Hakeem Jeffries and Secretary of State
Starting point is 01:10:22 Clinton challenged the election and refused to concede it in other elections, that was their right to do so under the First Amendment freedom of speech. And that was Mike Johnson's right to do so with President Trump. No, no, no. He's an election denier. That's not the same thing. How quickly they forget. All right, let's wrap it with this. he actually this is a long interview he took these three clips and i can kind of maybe summarize some other stuff he said but i think that clip three brings a little a little bit to the four do you see the house being more aggressive on this front with johnson as speaker especially with the 2024 election race heating up well that would be
Starting point is 01:11:01 my advice to him i mean that he has the majority he's got the gavels. He can extend subpoena power to the chairman and women. He can call for votes of contempt of Congress for individuals like Chris Wray and Merrick Garland who have already violated congressional subpoenas. And the precedent laid out by the Democratic January 6th Committee was those people get prosecuted by the DOJ. Or we'd start defunding some pieces of those organizations. So Speaker Johnson has that ability to do that. He can empower those chairman and chairwomen. He can make the subpoena process swifter, but he's also got to put some teeth behind it. You can issue all the subpoenas you want. And Chris Wray and Merrick Garland have basically just thrown them in the trash.
Starting point is 01:11:39 And this is a federal contempt of proceeding document, and the Republicans have not acted on it. So hopefully Speaker Johnson will launch into that, because at the end of the day, what the American public deserves is the truth. Why is the FBI and DOJ hiding these documents, whether it's Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Donald Trump or what have you? Put it all out there so we can vote based on the truth. You know, if Speaker Johnson goes down that route and the first big thing he does is the Hunter Biden stuff, then it's lost. I mean, there's so much more he could be doing, don't you think? Well, the thing is, I think by giving these committee heads the subpoena powers that he has to delegate, I guess, and letting them go nuts. And it's really not his.
Starting point is 01:12:27 He's not connected to any of that, I think would be good. Well, it would create it would create a carnival. But oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's entertaining. I get a kick out of it. And what's interesting is in this day and age where, you know, particularly with the situation situation in the middle east we've got people talking about it's horrible there's anti-semitism people attacking people you know jews attacking
Starting point is 01:12:51 jews uh islamophobia attacking muslims apparently christians are okay well that's nothing new. Well, but Jen Psaki did a fantastic job. I think really, if you want to attack someone like a Mike Johnson, what she did on her, what's her show? Inside with Jen Psaki. It's unwatchable, but you managed to watch one. Good. So let's take a few minutes to talk about this new speaker. First glance, Mike Johnson does seem fine, fine-ish. Conservative, yes. But he once started a civility caucus with a Democrat.
Starting point is 01:13:31 And I mean, if nothing else, he wears a suit and has glasses. How threatening can this guy actually be? Well, he may be threatening. Well, he gave us all a little clue as to how he would govern in an interview this week. I am a Bible-believing Christian. Someone asked me today in the media, they said, it's curious, people are curious, what does Mike Johnson think about any issue under the sun? I said, well, go pick up a Bible off your shelf and read it. That's my worldview. You heard that right. The Bible doesn't just inform his worldview, it is his worldview. In fact, during his first speech in his new job,
Starting point is 01:14:05 Johnson suggested that his election as Speaker was an act of God. He didn't actually say that. He never said that. That's a lie. He said we all have been ordained by God to be lifted up to where we are today. That's what he said. But no, no, it was an
Starting point is 01:14:21 act of God. Talk about a bit of a humble brag there so what exactly has god apparently hit by lightning what did you she's gonna be hit by lightning no she's dead so what exactly has god apparently called on mike johnson to do oh now we got to continue the theme so what is what is god telling Mike Johnson to do? This is the level of MSNBC now. Well, his views on policy are essentially what you'd expect from a religious fundamentalist. They're more divisive than they are divine.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Prior to his election to Congress in 2016, Johnson spent nearly two decades working for the hard right conservative legal activist group, the Alliance Defending Freedom. It's a group, by the way, that is so right wing, it was designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Oh, there you go. That's proof. This guy is horrible. Man, I wish we would be deemed a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. It might get us a little attention.
Starting point is 01:15:21 No, it won't help us at all. We don't wish for such things but don't they deem everybody a hate group basically the southern poverty law center everybody they deemed the libs of tiktok one i'm not sure but they have a lot of uh they're they're so off the rails i i wouldn't wish any attention by their creepy, their creeps. I'm just using that as an example. The ADF has worked for decades to blur the line between church and state. This is the issue.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Now, see, this is the same thing that Schwisher and Professor G were all about. Oh, church and state, it should be separate. Not erase it altogether. It's kind of their goal. They've pushed to expand lgbt what it's not the goal no but that's this is why she's so good she's very good at what she's doing here church and state yeah she's a prophet she's a horrible propagandist a glib one and she's she's she has a she doesn't she's not an ugly woman, but she's not attractive in the way that she should be for television. And I think she's got ratings in the toilet. Because who are they?
Starting point is 01:16:33 No, she doesn't have any. There's no real charisma that would draw in an audience. Also, what I'm hearing is this is Rachel Maddow's writers. But she's trying to do. Rachel Maddow's writers, but she's trying to do... Rachel Maddow's writers came from Oberman, who
Starting point is 01:16:53 was her mentor, but she's a comedian. She's actually a genuine comedian, so she could deliver lines with a kind of sarcasm that was a goofy kind of sarcasm that was a goofy style of sarcasm that had an attraction to a lot of people
Starting point is 01:17:10 who liked to nod their heads when Rachel talked. This woman has no sense of humor that I can tell. No, but it's the same, it must be the same writing team or influence, but she can't deliver the lines. That's what I mean. She can't, because she's not funny.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Correct. Not erase it altogether. It's kind of their goal. They've pushed to expand LGBTQ plus discrimination in the name of religious freedom. I love that. So they disagree with LGBTQ. So they are pushing for everything against LGBTQ freedom. And they were a big part of the effort to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Following the Supreme Court. Overturn Roe v. Wade. The Supreme Court did that. For its 2003 ruling that struck down the country's sodomy laws as unconstitutional, Johnson criticized the decision and wrote in favor of criminalizing gay sex. He claimed that, quote, states have always maintained the right to discourage the evils of sexual conduct outside of marriage. That's not quite the same as criminalizing, but OK. This is one of those examples where you say one thing and then you use an example that isn't the same.
Starting point is 01:18:15 It's wrong. And this is the lowest form of journalism. And it's about the state's sodomy laws. And he says something completely different, according to her quote. Three ruling that struck down the country's sodomy laws and he says something completely different according to her quote three ruling that struck down the country's sodomy laws as unconstitutional johnson criticized the decision and wrote in favor of criminalizing gay sex he claimed that quote states have always maintained the right to discourage the evils of sexual conduct outside of marriage that doesn't mean
Starting point is 01:18:40 gay sex necessarily outside of marriage. Any sex. Not that I'm on board with what he's saying, but I mean, come on. Come on, Psaki. Then in 2004, Johnson wrote that homosexual relationships are inherently unnatural, ultimately harmful and a dangerous lifestyle. You don't exactly have to be a religious scholar to know whether discrimination is a key tenet of the Bible. It's not. And then there is this policy on God. She never read the Bible. That was my favorite line. Homosexual relationships are inherently unnatural, ultimately harmful, and a dangerous lifestyle. Say it again. You don't exactly have to be a religious scholar to know whether discrimination is a key tenet of the Bible. It's not.
Starting point is 01:19:30 And then there is his policy on gun violence. Speaker Johnson wants to talk about anything but guns. In 2016, he actually blamed school shootings on no-fault divorce laws, radical feminism, and legal abortion. I've got to fine where he said i love that part maybe the you know ssris quite a stretch there then there's the obvious question of how johnson's convictions square with his fierce loyalty to donald trump if you stop stop a second since you brought this this uh rachel thing in, I'm now listening to her and trying to hear Rachel. And I can see where this material would work with Rachel.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Totally. She can do it. She has that snide kind of delivery. It's a snide, a certain kind. It's a beyond, you know, Saki likes to think she's snide. But compared to Rachel Maddow, no. She's not even close. Rachel Maddow has snide to an extreme, and she can pull this off and get people nodding their heads. Saki's not pulling it off. It's just like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's too monotone.
Starting point is 01:20:40 I wish that we had AI that could change this from Psaki into Rachel Maddow. I mean, it's doable, but we're not going to do it because it's time-consuming and stupid. But you just do it in your own head. We've got 30 seconds left. A guy who has been married multiple times, paid hush money to a porn star.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Alright. How can he even think about Donald Trump because he's a heathen? In 2016, he actually blamed school shootings on no-fault divorce laws, radical feminism, and legal abortion. It's all quite a stretch there. Then there's the obvious question of how Johnson's convictions square with his fierce loyalty to Donald Trump, a guy who has been married multiple times, paid hush money to a porn star, and joked about grabbing women. Yeah, no, you can't like him as a church,
Starting point is 01:21:30 God-fearing man. That's no good. There's no repentance. There's no forgiveness. I would love to know what passage in the Bible told Johnson to become one of the most important architects behind Trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election. Which passage? Was it God whispering in his ear to ignore the Constitution and disenfranchise millions of voters? It's hard not to think that Mike Johnson's idea of what America should be is drastically out of line with what America actually is. He clearly envisions a country that's less democratic and less tolerant. And then they explain why he seems more comfortable with the America of the 18th century than the America of today. Are there no democratic Christians? No, all Christians are atheist sinners.
Starting point is 01:22:16 They're all atheists, the whole Democrat Party. I can't believe that. Or Satanists. They could be Satanists. I don't know. So there's a difference between an atheist and a Satanist. That doesn't believe that. Or Satanists. They could be Satanists. I don't know. It doesn't sound right. So there's a difference between an atheist and a Satanist. That doesn't sound right.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Yeah, it sounds right to me. My goodness. Yeah, you're right. This is written by poor Rachel's writers. They had this down to a T. They were writing for her voice. Yep. Yep. Which is not easy, by the way. When you get a right, if you're right, if you're reading from a prompter and somebody's
Starting point is 01:22:50 writing for your voice, it's the greatest experience of your life. Yeah. And you just read and read and you sound like you're talking. Yeah. And Rachel had the best. And so these guys, she kind of quits. She does a once a month show or something now. And so what are we going to do?
Starting point is 01:23:05 Well, Jen Psaki's got a new show. Let's write for her. And it's like, oh, geez. She's not delivering our material correctly. Can't do it right. And they've done is they put clown mascara on her. You have to take a look at one of her recent shows. I haven't seen it for a few months.
Starting point is 01:23:24 They clump it together. They went to put a big red nose of her recent shows. I haven't seen it for a few months. You know, they have like, they clump it together. They went to put a big red nose on her then. Now that I would watch. Hey, our boys, our Russian boys, Vovan and Lexus struck again. Oh, those guys are the best. I love these guys. Vovan and Lexus. it's amazing how i mean
Starting point is 01:23:49 now all of this you know as i'm watching this or it's actually you know i'm listening to it i'm thinking this could all be a deep fake i have no idea what georgia maloney sounds like at length speaking in english she's the prime minister there would be a denial if that was true there is no denial that i'm aware of yet if there's no denial then it's not a deep fake i mean denials you you have to maybe that's one thing that should be had been discussed in bletchley which is that people have to be quicker on the draw when it comes to denying things. Yes, yes, yes. So they dupe her by posing as an African politician. It's unclear as of now which country in Africa. And it's very interesting because after a while,
Starting point is 01:24:42 I don't know, it's Vovon Alexis who was speaking. They sound pretty much like a Russian African president. They just keep going. But, you know, it's a phone call or it's a Zoom call. I don't know. I pulled two clips from it. It's about 13 minutes in total. And the first is about the illegal immigration that's going on.
Starting point is 01:25:01 And just a couple of things that were interesting that popped up in this first bit. Hi, speaking. Hi, dear Prime Minister. Nice to hear you. Nice to meet you. So thank you for your time. How are you? I'm good.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I'm good now. I heard many bad news. So what is the situation? Yes, yes. The situation is a bit difficult. Anyway, the situation is very difficult for us to manage in this time. In seven months, nine months, more than 120,000 people who came mostly from Tunisia. This is interesting. This is not really reported as such, and it's not that much compared to the United States,
Starting point is 01:26:01 but 120,000 mainly from Tun, who have come into Italy. So a situation which is very difficult on every side, on the humanitarian side, the logistics side, the security side. So I'm having, and what I see is that these flows risk to be increased for the situation that's going on in Africa, moreover in the Sahel, but also with the problem of the grain and all the problems that you know quite better than me. We are working also with the European Union for a memorandum with Tunisia to help not only managing migration. I mean, my idea is always that you have to do both the things from one side. I agree. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:53 So there's something up with Tunisia that we're that's not really being reported on. And she says, you know, you know better than I do about the grain. OK, so are people starving? It's always like arrow spring kicked off in tunisia so got to keep our eyes on tunisia now comes i think the best part of this uh of this hoax which i just love that these i love that these politicians that they fall for this it's amazing makes you wonder what else they fall for oh all kinds of stuff. Climate change? Oh, well, he or she basically says the quiet part out loud about Ukraine. How do you estimate the conflict in Europe between Ukraine and Russia? How long it will take?
Starting point is 01:27:37 Does he not sound like a Russian at this point? How long? He sounds like a Russian from the get-go. How do you estimate the conflict in Europe between Ukraine and Russia? How long it will take to understand what is the position? You had conversations with President Biden and others. Well, I see that there is a lot of fatigue, if I have to say the truth, from all the sides. We're near the moment in which everybody understands that we need a way out.
Starting point is 01:28:13 The problem is to find a way out which can be acceptable for both without destroying the international law. for both without destroying the international law. I've got some ideas about it on how to manage this situation, but I'm waiting to understand to the right moment, try to put on the table these ideas I've got. So there's a little more to this. So she says everybody is sick and tired of this crap is basically what she's saying. We're tired. We need a way out.
Starting point is 01:28:46 We need to stop this. This is not working for anybody. And then she says, well, I have some ideas. I don't believe she has ideas. But then it gets really weird after this next bit. But you see that Ukraine is not successful. But you see that Ukraine is not successful. Ukraine is not so successful
Starting point is 01:29:05 as we expected, as we all expected for this spring. The counteroffensive of Ukraine is maybe not going as they were expecting. Yeah. It is going, but it didn't change. I mean that... Now listen to this next bit.
Starting point is 01:29:25 This is really weird. The destiny of the conflict. Yeah. So, everybody understand that it really could last many years if we don't try to find some solutions. The problem is, which is the solution acceptable for both without opening other conflicts? You know what I think about Libya. No, maybe you don't know, but we could discuss it for hours, my friend, what had happened to Libya.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Maybe today somebody understands that the situation after was not so good. What is this with Libya? Do they plan on killing Zelensky and turning it into Libya? Well, for one thing, her commentary about Libya, we have to remember that Libya used to be an Italian state. Yes. Historically. Right. remember that libya used to be an italian state yes so it's historically right and so what happened in libya she's not happy about because it was the united it was nato at our behest at hillary's behest yes to to destroy them and of course we on our show we we alluded to the fact that it was Gaddafi was trying to undercut the American dollar. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:46 With the gold dinar. Yes. Gold dinar. And so you don't do that. But so she, I don't know what she's referring to about Libya, but it's possible that she's making an illusion that Ukraine is going to become a mess like Libya, which I don't see that happening because because Russia would just take it over.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Well, Time Magazine had a big piece on Zelensky. And Time Magazine is... Yes, it got played up everywhere. Yeah, but the part that did it get played up about the corruption? Because that was in the article, but I didn't did it get played up about the corruption? Because that was in the article, but I didn't hear that much about it. Was it Newsweek or Time that had the piece where they had his assistants, associates saying he's out of control, he's lost it? Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:46 It was his, let me see, Andriy Yermak, presidential chief of staff, referring to the bunker that Zelensky and a few of his confidants have called home. We're not out there living the high life, he says. All day we're busy fighting this war. Amid all pressure to root out corruption, I assume, this is the journalist, perhaps naively, that officials in Ukraine would think twice before taking a bribe or pocketing state funds. But when I made this point to a top presidential advisor in early October, he asked me to turn off my audio recorder so he could speak more freely quote simon you're mistaken he says people are stealing like there's no tomorrow and then they go on to say that zelensky is delusional is the word the term they use yeah delusional time magazine isn't that owned by Reid Hoffman? No, not Reid Hoffman. No, that's Newsweek you're thinking of.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Who owns? I thought Time Magazine was also owned by someone. Well, let's take a, you know, it's not Time Warner. Sorry? Should be Time Warner. Mark Benioff. Mark Benioff. Yeah, he owns it. He bought it.
Starting point is 01:32:46 When did he buy it? In 2019. At the end of 2019. And he's a Salesforce guy. Huge Democrat. Yeah, he's a big Democrat. Yeah, he's a huge Democrat, but he's not a progressive. I say that because he's buddies with Schwarzenegger.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Yeah, but I don't know, man. That's weird. M5M should not be letting that news out. That's not on board with the messaging. Maybe that was the idea. I think it was meant to go out. Hence the Libyan solution. Yeah. I think it was meant to go out. Hence the Libyan solution. I fear for our coke-snorting friend.
Starting point is 01:33:34 Things don't look good for him. Well, we've said that before on this show. At least a year ago. Yeah, we've been quite wrong. But not necessarily wrong. Sometimes these things take time. To kill somebody? It's Time Magazine.
Starting point is 01:33:51 So I have a series of clips, and I'm very confused, not about the clips, but about the response from the White House. And everyone has seen this happening. This is the main M5M news of the day. This morning, growing concerns over the rise of anti-Semitic incidents on college campuses across the country. The latest at Cornell University. Police are guarding the Center for Jewish Living and the president of the school has notified the FBI of a possible hate crime
Starting point is 01:34:23 after she says a, quote, of the school has notified the FBI of a possible hate crime after she says a quote series of horrendous anti-semitic messages threatening violence were posted online. So that's NBC in the morning here's NBC in the evening. Tonight the U.S. is condemning this pro-Palestinian mob that stormed an airport in Russia looking for Jews. Hundreds of men, some carrying banners with anti-Semitic slogans, rushed onto the tarmac, searching for Israeli passengers. Around the world, demonstrations calling for a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas war. And then we've got CNN. A 21-year-old student has been arrested for making anti-Semitic online threats against the Jewish community at Cornell University.
Starting point is 01:35:04 He did not enter a plea during his first appearance in federal court today. This is happening as the number of anti-Semitic threats is clearly on the rise across the United States since the Hamas attacks against Israel. Then we have CBS. New York State Police are now standing guard outside the Cornell Center for Jewish Living. After authorities say Patrick Dye, a junior engineering student at Cornell, threatened to kill Jewish students, including those who eat at this kosher dining hall. So what does our what does our administration do? And this was a very long clip from our vice president. I made an edit, which I've made clear with a sound effect, but this is the
Starting point is 01:35:48 intro and the payoff of her announcement. Our nation was founded on the fundamental principle that all people should have the freedom to live, to worship, and to be without fear of violence or persecution. Actually, it's the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. It's not exactly what you said, but OK, we'll let you slide as your interpretation. Every person has the right to live safe from violence, hate and bigotry. And for those reasons and so many more, President Joe Biden and I have a duty not only to keep the people of our nation safe, but to condemn unequivocally and forcefully all forms of hate. And today, we take another important step forward in our fight against hate. For years, Muslims in America and those perceived to be Muslim have endured a disproportionate number of hate-fueled attacks.
Starting point is 01:36:48 As a result of the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza, we have seen an uptick in anti-Palestinian, anti-Arab, anti-Semitic, and Islamophobic incidents across America, Islamophobic incidents across America, including the brutal attack of a Palestinian American woman who was Muslim and the killing of her 60 year old son. So everyone is talking about the Jew hate and they they put out a statement about Islamophobia. What? Well, on the cover sheet, it says Islamophobia and anti-Semitism, but it's right. The announcement was about. Yeah, well, listen to the last 45 seconds. A senseless act of violence that the Department of Justice is investigating as a hate crime.
Starting point is 01:37:40 For so many people in our nation, the past few days and weeks have brought about all too familiar fears. Fears that they will be targeted, profiled or attacked simply because of who they are, how they worship or how they look. And so today I am proud to announce the Biden-Harris administration will develop our nation's first national strategy to counter Islamophobia. This strategy will be a comprehensive and detailed plan to protect Muslims and those perceived to be Muslim from hate, bigotry, and violence. So this can only be that the binary, the second part of the binary movement which is you know getting young people in universities to be all pro-palestine free palestine as we know organized by act blue by the democrat party and their handlers this is the payoff we're with you we are with you
Starting point is 01:38:42 the problem is clearly islamophobia when obviously that's not the segment of Americans who are afraid. It's very twisted. You spot it here. It doesn't make a lot of sense unless the Democrat Party has decided to give up on the on the Democrat Jews. Most Jews in the United States are Democrats. There's very few of them that aren't. The number, I think, is under 20 percent that are maybe Republicans. And I think that they're giving up on the Jewish vote. Wow. Troublesome group they troublesome group and their trouble.
Starting point is 01:39:35 And they're all in with the trans Maoists and the rest of them that hate the Jews. And they bailed. I mean, the Democrat. I don't understand the thinking behind Jews voting for Democrats or blacks voting for Democrats, it has never made any sense to me if you just look at the track record. NBC Today took it one step further, I guess trying to give it a little bit of a Donald Trump slant to it. As Israel's war against Hamas rages on, a dire warning from FBI Director Christopher Wray. rages on, a dire warning from FBI Director Christopher Wray. The ongoing war in the Middle East has raised the threat of an attack against Americans in the United States to a whole other level. Wray telling the Senate Homeland Security Committee the FBI is concerned violent extremists
Starting point is 01:40:17 will be inspired by Hamas and other foreign terrorist groups to attack Americans. We assess that the actions of Hamas and its allies will serve as an inspiration, the likes of which we haven't seen since ISIS launched its so-called caliphate several years ago. It comes as this morning, the FBI says it now has a suspect in custody in connection with violent online threats targeting Jewish students at Cornell University. According to prosecutors, 21-year-old Patrick Dye, a junior at the Ivy League school, is facing federal charges for a series of posts, allegedly threatening to kill Jewish people at the college and shoot up a campus building.
Starting point is 01:40:57 The Anti-Defamation League says it's seen a nearly 400% increase in reported anti-Semitic incidents compared to the same period last year, with college students frequently targeted. When we are hearing from students who are saying that they are being harassed, concerned about being visibly Jewish, I think is really concerning. On Tuesday, FBI Director Wray highlighted the alarming surge in anti-Semitic hate nationwide. This is a threat that is reaching in some ways sort of historic levels. All part of his warning that threats against both American Jews and Muslims are growing, inflamed since the war began, including the killing of a six-year-old Palestinian-American child in Illinois,
Starting point is 01:41:39 allegedly at the hands of his family's landlord. Ray said the FBI also arrested a man in Houston who was studying how to build bombs and posted online about his support for killing Jews. I think this is all anti-Trump rhetoric, subtle propaganda. Well, I have a couple of thoughts on this. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:59 First of all, do you recall about a year or two ago when there was all this news, and, oh, anti-Asian Pacific, anti-Asian hate. And they were promoting it in the media. And you'd get one or two incidents here and there. There's usually some dumb shit that beat up some old Chinese woman in San Francisco or something like that. But they were promoting it. This was a major trend.
Starting point is 01:42:23 And it's like they're trying to make this happen. That guy who is the 21-year-old who is on social media posting all these threats and all the rest of it, that has to be a hoax. There's no normal person that's going to do that because they know what the results are going to be. You're going to get arrested. You can't do that. Nobody does that anymore. That's old school. That's before people realize you can't do that nobody does that anymore that's old school that's before people realize you can't do that this is bullcrap that story is nonsense and then they keep bringing up the only instance they seem to be able to find about the anti-muslims that little kid who was who was killed by a maniac if anyone's you see a picture of the so-called landlord. This is all ginned up.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Everything about it is ginned up for some purpose. You might be right. It might have something to do with Trump. People turn off your televisions, leave your phone in the desk drawer. Be like JCD. You'll be much happier for it. Much happier for it. Going the happier for it. I'm going the whole year. And I love what... I told this to somebody the other day. They always get the same response. Oh, really? Well, then how come I can text you? I said, because I use Google Voice.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Google Voice, yeah. It's on the computer. I get the text on the computer. Oh, why am I talking to you on now, landline? I loved Horowitz. What if you have an emergency? And you're like, I'm not a doctor. My patients don't need me immediately. What if you're stranded by the side of the road?
Starting point is 01:43:54 What do you do? And you said, I just wait until someone comes by to help me out. Yeah, so you do. You live in such a beautiful world. Everybody, I wish everyone could live in your world. Yes, yes, I know, I know. Here's what the Israeli envoy did at the United Nations Security Council. As Israel was increasingly criticized by UN Security Council members for its massive bombardment of Gaza, in the middle of the emergency meeting, the Israeli ambassador pinned a yellow star to his jacket. Some of you have forgotten why this body was established. Just like my grandparents and the grandparents of millions of Jews,
Starting point is 01:44:35 from now on, my team and I will wear yellow stars. We will wear this star until you condemn the atrocities of Hamas and demand the immediate release of our hostages. The gesture was swiftly criticized by Israel's Holocaust Memorial, which urged the ambassador to wear the Israeli flag instead, saying the act disgraced Holocaust victims. An episode that illustrates the sensitive debates and deep divisions within the un security council you know it really sucks when when the jewish holocaust museum was like take that star off that's not right four draft resolutions have already been rejected since the war began three weeks ago one blocked by russia and china because it did not clearly call for a ceasefire others stopped by the u.s because they failed failed to mention Israel's right to defend itself.
Starting point is 01:45:28 So the U.N. is just useless, useless. But Netanyahu, man, he threw out like he did this speech. He really looks bad, by the way. Yeah, he's not long for this gig, that's for sure. And he threw he did a whole bunch of things like, what are you talking about? He threw out a 33, he threw out an axis of evil. And well, this is just a short bit from his televised speech, which is in English. So I presume it's meant for the international community.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Hamas is also preventing foreign nationals from leaving Gaza altogether. And most despicably, Hamas is holding over 200 Israeli hostages, including 33 children, holding them, terrorizing them, keeping them as hostages. Every civilized nation should stand with Israel in demanding that these hostages be freed immediately and freed unconditionally. I want to make clear Israel's position regarding a ceasefire. Just as the United States would not agree to a ceasefire after the bombing of Pearl Harbor or after the terrorist attack of 9-11, Israel will not agree to a cessation of hostilities with Hamas after the horrific attacks of October 7th.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Notice how October 7th is supposed to be the new date. You know, we have 9-11, we have, well, January 6th was worse than any of this, but okay, we'll just, we'll let Netanyahu have it. October 7th, this is the date. Remember October 7th. Never again. Calls for a ceasefire are calls for Israel to surrender to Hamas, to surrender to terrorism. He's not surrendering. There's not going to be a ceasefire. That's clear. To surrender to barbarism. Barbarism. That will not happen. Ladies and gentlemen, the Bible says that there is a time for peace and a time for war.
Starting point is 01:47:25 I love this because this is Ecclesiastes 3, and the actual Bible quote is there's a time for war and a time for peace. But he kind of twists that around, which I think is interesting. This is a time for war, a war for our common future. Today we draw a line between the forces of civilization and the forces of barbarism. It is a time for everyone to decide where they stand. By the way, I don't think, if we were to advise him, I don't think we would say
Starting point is 01:47:54 it's a war against civilization and barbarism. I mean, it just doesn't sound right. Terrorism is a good word. You know, barbarism? Yeah, barbarism is a pretty archaic term. Yeah, it's not good marketing. It doesn't sound good.
Starting point is 01:48:10 You could do better than this. Israel will stand against the forces of barbarism until victory. I hope and pray that civilized nations everywhere will back this fight. Because Israel's fight is your fight. Because if Hamas andan's axis of evil win you will be their next target there you go the hamas thing boy i have to say this there's
Starting point is 01:48:34 an image some of the images from coming out of gaza talk about rubbleizing oh yeah and they're doing a hell of a job now i have a bunch of clips from the head of Hamas, which you'll never hear on any American broadcast, that I thought would be an interesting contrast, so we could at least be somewhat... Get another... By the way, do you want the official Arabic pronunciation guide, as we requested? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:59 Somebody wrote us saying, you're pronouncing Hamas wrong, and that's not Hamas, and Hezbollah, you don't know what you're pronouncing Hamas wrong and that's not Hamas and Hezbollah. You don't know what you're doing. So yes, I would like to hear this. Now this is controversial, of course, because this is the Arabic way of pronouncing Hamas and Hezbollah, not the Israeli way. All right. So there's a difference. So this is the Arabic pronunciation of what I was saying. Hamas. No. Hamas. Hamas. Hamas. Not Hamas. Hamas. Hamas. Okay. Not Hamas. Hamas. Now, the important one is Hezbollah. Or is it Hezbollah? What is it? This will be as important as kiev or kiev this will be how you identify yourself
Starting point is 01:49:45 okay just well we're gonna keep on our merry way with hummus and hummus and i'm not gonna pronounce it that way. I am. I'm in Hezbollah. Yeah, I think you should. So this was, I believe, on Al Jazeera or someplace, and it was the Hamas leader. And I just thought it was interesting because there's an analysis in the third clip that's unique. Hamas's political leader has given a televised address. In it, Ismail Haniyeh accused Israel's prime minister of this. Is his name Ismail? Literally? Is it?
Starting point is 01:50:34 I started over and then listened to the way he, now this is Al Jazeera, so they're going to pronounce it the Arabic way. Yes. And I didn't, it's different. In it, Ismail Haniyeh accused Israel's Prime Minister of destroying the entire region to save himself and his family from prison. He said Hamas had offered Benjamin Netanyahu's government a prisoner swap deal as
Starting point is 01:50:58 a start of a way out of the conflict. And he called on countries, especially the United States, to stop supplying weapons to Israel. All right. So this has to do with Netanyahu getting arrested? Yeah, that's what he said. But then why did Hamas end up doing this attack to begin with, to help him?
Starting point is 01:51:24 I mean, this, okay, well, let's just listen to this guy. One of the major reasons for this war was Netanyahu, who's leading a far-right, racist and fascist group and is thinking of saving himself and his family from prison, even at the expense of destroying the entire region. Before the war, we met with all the parties about the continued rule of Netanyahu and his fascist government about their reckless behavior.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Wow, so these guys are in line with the protesters who were protesting Netanyahu? You're talking about the protesters in Israel? Yes! He said we met with all the groups.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Well, you know, this is the weird thing about it, is the queers for Palestine. Let's keep going. Wait, if you look into that judicial thing and you really start digging into it, it goes back to one of the justices who became the head of it back in the 90s, who was a super progressive that started implementing all kinds of, I would have to use the word, I don't like it,
Starting point is 01:52:25 woke policies in Israel and started introducing, in fact, there was a picture in the Israeli Jerusalem News saying that Tel Aviv is the world's biggest gay city. Yes. There is something up with trans-Maoism, the Israeli judicial system, and Palestine, and none of it makes any real sense. But it's interesting to kind of let these guys talk and maybe we'll figure it out. I think it makes perfect sense. He said, I met with all the groups who hated Netanyahu because he's a dictator, which is all predicate and all based on these protests, including the factions of the IDF. We had the clips, even the lesbian helicopter pilot. We said, oh, no, we're just not going to serve this guy anymore.
Starting point is 01:53:19 We're not going to participate. And now this Ismail guy is saying, well, we had meetings with them, and Netanyahu is a bad guy, he's got to go, because queers for Palestine, I guess. Before the war, we met with all the parties about the continued rule of Netanyahu and his fascist government, about their reckless behavior. They're desecrating Christian and Muslim holy sites, continuing with illegal and unlawful settlements, unleashing settlers to kill and harass our people. We have warned repeatedly that this will not go unpunished. It will explode at any time to curb this criminal and his gang. Unfortunately, these warnings fell on deaf ears as our allies continued to back him with these racist, fascist policies. What happened to death to Jews? That's what this guy is supposed to be saying.
Starting point is 01:54:10 No, it's all death to Netanyahu. This is very interesting. Here we are once again. Netanyahu has no problem to turn the entire region into scorched land simply to save himself and those around him. The movement has provided a comprehensive perspective starting by ending the aggression, opening the border, the prisoner swap deal, and ending with the revival of the political and diplomatic movement towards the establishment of an independent state with Jerusalem as its capital with a right of self-determination.
Starting point is 01:54:37 However, Netanyahu and his gang are misleading his own people and providing false promises which cannot and will not be achieved. Wow, this is very interesting. his own people and providing false promises, which cannot and will not be achieved. Wow. This is very interesting. I mean, who knows what the truth is, of course, but this is, this is,
Starting point is 01:54:50 we have to assume everyone's lying. Everybody's full of it. Yeah. But at least you get their side of the, their side of it. So he's saying, which he's saying that because Netanyahu himself is stopping the peaceful ideas that are on the table, which is, am I hearing two-state solution with Jerusalem as an independent state?
Starting point is 01:55:11 That's what he kind of said. Okay. Jerusalem being the capital of the new Palestine isn't a non-starter, no matter what they like to think. Although it's kind of a divided city as it is. All right we get to part three which has an analysis in here i thought was interesting we remind the countries and states supporting the zionist regime legitimizing the pogrom perpetrated by them against our people chiefly the united states of america we remind them that they must back down on these obsolete imperialistic policies and refrain from providing military aid to this fascist regime. We call on them to stop preventing the international will aiming at ending
Starting point is 01:55:51 the hostilities and opening the border crossing. This is what we witnessed in the UN General Assembly. To them, we say you are standing on the wrong side of history and the present. The region and beyond cannot enjoy peace and stability as long as our established rights of the Palestinians are not restored. The rights of freedom, independence and the return of refugees. Joining us from Washington, D.C. now is Benjamin Friedman. He's the policy director at Defense Priorities, a U.S. foreign policy think tank. What do you think is Hamas's strategy here, even as we continue to see Israel's relentless bombardment? Well, it seems like Hamas is now eager to get public opinion globally on their side and push Israel to negotiate some kind of settlement. to negotiate some kind of settlement.
Starting point is 01:56:49 I don't think Hamas imagines that they'll get a real movement towards, you know, a Palestinian state and with Jerusalem as its capital any time in the near future. But by sounding reasonable, more like the PLO or a non-annihilationist Palestinian movement, I guess they think they can get a win more public support and maybe uh increase pressure on israel to uh stop the stop the war and negotiate okay so that seems to be working because of all the protests we see in this country with all these kids and who's like i said in the newsletter there's a picture in there who's producing all these palestinian flags yeah that's a money maker the same people who did the ukraine flags hello yeah yeah well whoever those people that flag company should you know this should go public so let's listen to the end of this. In your view, does Israel actually have an end game here or is this largely about vengeance? It seems like vengeance is playing a large role.
Starting point is 01:57:54 If it's not all that's going on, it's hard to figure out what the Israeli end game is or, you know, how this war serves a political end. They say they want to annihilate Hamas. That's easy to understand, given what happened on the 7th. But it's, I think, not going to be possible to have anyone run Gaza as long as there's Palestinians there, other than Hamas or something that looks like it. Hamas 2.0, maybe a more radical ISIS version. So I don't think the Israelis want to be in charge of Gaza, running it as a police state. So it's difficult for me to figure out where they think where they think this is all headed,
Starting point is 01:58:38 other than maybe just going day by day and killing as many Hamas fighters as they can and figuring the politics will be worked out eventually. How concerned do you think is America not to get drawn into a wider regional conflict? And yet there's still no call from Joe Biden for a ceasefire. Well, yeah, the president hasn't called for a ceasefire beyond this humanitarian pause thing that the administration has been repeating. And I don't think they will. I don't think they feel whatever there is in their deepest hearts. I don't think they feel politically able to separate themselves that much from Israel. Israel. So I think avoiding escalation should be the U.S. main goal, most realistic goal politically in avoiding getting drawn into war with Iran. And one way I think we do that is by limiting the damage Iranian proxy forces or linked militias in Iraq and Syria can do,
Starting point is 01:59:40 which means I think getting our forces out of Iraq and particularly Syria, which I think we should have left years ago in any case. Okay. So there's so many people, Bennett. First of all, war is great for business. Great. War is a racket, Smedley Butler. And it is great for business.
Starting point is 01:59:58 We talked about this on the Horowitz Show. Wartime economies are always winners. But after the war, it's a nightmare yeah like uh after vietnam yeah the 70s were a nightmare so on one hand we have the political part which is hey man we should call for a pause come on israel you should pause not cease fire but we call it a pause this and then we have the White House and the Democrat Party in America are all pro-Palestine. Let's just call it anti-Islamophobic. And then we have the Republican side, which is the crazy Christian, Mike Johnson. Oh, he's going to give more money
Starting point is 02:00:40 and more weapons to the Jews. So you can see how these lines are being divided i mean it's so obvious and and the true winner of course is the military industrial complex and they are all over this thing like yeah let's get into iran yeah come on abc do some stories the u.s launched retaliatory strikes this week in syria against proxies. There was an attack the next day on American troops. There have been about 20 so far. Is Iran really getting the message? And if they don't, what happens? Well, the president has been very straightforward on this. If American troops are attacked by Iran and its proxies, we will respond. We did respond. If attacks continue, we will respond. And I think the Iranians understand our message. And we, of course, are taking every measure
Starting point is 02:01:31 necessary to protect our forces, to increase our vigilance, and to work with other countries in the region to try to keep this conflict that is currently in Israel and Gaza from spinning out into a regional conflict. But the risk is real, and therefore our vigilance is high, and the steps that we are taking to deter that and prevent that are serious, systematic, and ongoing. The steps we're taking to get into the war, we just need to drop one word, proxies. If we can just say Iran instead of Iranian proxies. Where's the evidence of this?ies. There's no, where's the evidence of this?
Starting point is 02:02:05 Zero. There's no evidence. How about this? This has Gulf of Tompkin written all over it. Oh, no, they attacked us again. Well, let's show some pictures. So I got a note from a father of a father or uncle of one of the one of the servicemen who is indeed at a Ford operating base in Syria. I mean, this is all true.
Starting point is 02:02:29 We have bases there. I mean, it's not like a huge base like Iraq, the green zone. But of course we got bases there. We need to spend more money on military. And here is the Deutsche Welle. We weren't, by the way, it should be mentioned, we were never allowed to have a base there by the country itself,
Starting point is 02:02:46 by the sovereign nation. No, no. It's not like our bases in Germany where, you know, they like us there because we spend money. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:54 We're not doing anything for the Syrian economy, I can assure you. Here's Deutsche Welle asking what an escalation in the region could mean. Before Russia's invasion of Ukraine,
Starting point is 02:03:05 there was relatively little public awareness of how much the world relied on Ukraine for the supply of grain or how much Europe depended on Russia for its energy supply. Now, as the devastating conflict continues to unfold in the Middle East, some are beginning to wonder what the bigger economic ramifications might be. What do you think? What do you think the bigger economic ramifications might be. What do you think? What do you think the bigger economic ramifications might be? Could it be dead people?
Starting point is 02:03:28 Our babies die worse than your babies? We kill your babies better? Is that what's important? Nah. Especially when it comes to the global supply of oil, which could be affected if Iran were to become more embroiled in the conflict. The region is also a key shipping route, with disruption to key waterways like the Suez Canal
Starting point is 02:03:48 and the Strait of Hormuz potentially causing delays in deliveries. And earlier I spoke to Kastem Jetski, chief economist at ING. I asked him what a possible escalation involving Iran could mean for the global supply of oil. Indeed, I think this is where this conflict will have bigger repercussions for the rest of the world. So just looking at trade is very naive. But oil is an extremely important one. We saw already when the terroristic attacks on Israel started that oil prices started to surge.
Starting point is 02:04:21 If Iran, one way or the other, was to be involved in this conflict, Iran being an important producer of oil, if the entire Middle East would somehow, or one way or the other, be involved in this conflict with, as a result, maybe even sanctions coming from the U.S. on Iran, on other countries. This would then clearly have a big impact on oil-producing countries. Therefore, we would see oil prices going up. If this conflict was to escalate, we could really see oil prices going
Starting point is 02:04:53 above $100 per barrel very easily. Oh! Oh! At least we know what's important. If the conflict escalates, oil will get more expensive. It's all so cynical yeah just cynical and meanwhile america please whatever you do keep watching this middle east region pay no attention to the venezuelans freezing to the sidewalks in chicago well mike and, migrant families deeply concerned about the harsh elements, not knowing how much longer it'll be before they get moved to shelters.
Starting point is 02:05:31 And as you might imagine, parents especially worried about their kids. Parents say exposure to the cold is making their kids sick. We don't know what to do. This Venezuelan mother of three confesses with the inevitable arrival of snow and bitter cold. We feel that one way or another, she says, we're trapped. For now, at least, no CTA warming buses in the afternoon outside the snow-capped tent village housing homeless immigrants at Chicago's 19th Police District. It's not just the father tells us that police officers are denying an indoor space for my son, he alleges. We reached out to police to get their assessment on sleeping arrangements at the 19th District. News Affairs referring us to the mayor's office.
Starting point is 02:06:20 You may be wondering if Illinois' Child Welfare Agency has concerns about kids spending their days and nights in the cold. A DCFS spokesperson says that the agency hasn't received any complaints, but didn't respond to a follow-up question about whether it would investigate or intervene on migrants' behalf. And the mayor's press office in an evening news release reporting that warming buses are being provided by the Chicago Transit Authority and they are being positioned at 16 police districts from 8 p.m. until 8 a.m. You know, it's 24 degrees and snowing in Chicago. This is this is here's our problems. Leave everything else for what it is for a moment because that's all political and then these mind these migrants here so i didn't have warming buses
Starting point is 02:07:13 yeah yeah and you get to go on board the bus and warm up that's pathetic so here's um here's proof that uh the pictures you see of the southern border are just theater. I mean, it's real, of course. Haiti shuts flights to sneak migrants to USA. Haiti's sick of it. People are going to Haiti, getting on a plane, flying into America, where they get paperwork right there in Haiti. El Salvador says, you know, if you're coming from Africa
Starting point is 02:07:42 and you want to go to America through El Salvador, we're going to charge you $1 to go to America through El Salvador, we're going to charge you a thousand bucks. Now you land here, a thousand dollars plus tax. Then you can stay at our airport before it's time for you to fly on. They're being flown in Turks and Caicos, 15 daily flights. We're being hoodwinked. Amy Pope is brilliant. She keeps us focused on the migrants coming across the Rio Grande. Mark Hall just told me,
Starting point is 02:08:14 Sir Mark Hall, he says, Ecuador, Panama, all these countries, they're people, that's where they get their debit cards. They're lining up there. It's a business. it's a business it's a business it's a business as long as we just we can just be honest about it and just say this is what's going on we're being we're being duped by our media whatever whatever it can be called media give me a break no they do what they're told. Yes, like stories like this. Speaking of Florida, the governor and presidential candidate Ron DeSantis is making news for his footwear.
Starting point is 02:08:50 So according to Politico, three people described as expert shoemakers say DeSantis appears to be wearing height boosters inside his cowboy boots to make himself appear taller. himself appear taller. Some observers have commented about his strangely shaped cowboy boots, but the governor, who says he's 5'11", denies using lifts, saying his boots are standard off the rack. Yeah, this is the headline. No, this story was everywhere. Yeah, that's what I mean. And they had him on some talk show. He was sitting there and they asked him his height. Bill Maher. Bill Maher. Yeah. No, I know. I think it was, I saw it on something else. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:09:28 Yeah. But they, he's, so he's probably a 5'10 guy. He's like, feels bad about the fact that Trump's like, what, 6'2", 6'3". Yes. Trump's a big, tall dude. Fat. And then he's a little guy. He's a 5'10". He's not a petite male like, you know, some people. He's a stocky, stocky, stocky. He's a little guy. He's not a petite male like some people.
Starting point is 02:09:46 He's stocky. Stocky. Stocky. He's kind of stocky. But 5'10", I believe, is the average height for the American male. Yeah. But the whole point is... He's not like a midget. But that's the headline news. He's got lifts in his boots. He's wearing lifts. Politico. Politico, the bastion of political reporting in the United States. He's lying about his height.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Dude. We're so lost. That is pathetic. Well, I have another pathetic thing because this got played. This is a talk video. Oh, TikTok to the talk team. And this thing got played all over the place. And I'll'll just instead of
Starting point is 02:10:26 doing the punchline i'll do it at the beginning i believe that people have been suckered by this is bull crap some guy yep it's like a two camera well it's not a two camera shoot but there's this character it's going around bitching about being called sir. Oh, yes. I saw this one. And again, I've seen people play it, and one of the people that played it on their podcast, you and I both know, she goes on and plays it straight. It's, oh, my God, it's gone too far. This guy's full of crap.
Starting point is 02:10:57 This is set up. Who's taking the movie, eh? And then it gets weirder and weirder. If no one notices. The guy's eating like three dozen oysters. He's at the fanciest restaurants in town. Then he's at a French bistro
Starting point is 02:11:14 dressed up as some sort of a French-looking guy with a dog. He's got a dog and he pushes around in a thing. The dog is dressed with a beret and a... It's stupid. What podcast? Who played it? I don't know who
Starting point is 02:11:29 played it on their podcast. There's somebody named Natalie that we both know. Oh, goodness. On that podcast? That's not a podcast. It's a YouTube show. Yeah, okay. Well, the YouTube show. But people everywhere have been playing this thing as an example of oh, the pronoun thing's gotten too far.
Starting point is 02:11:46 But it's really not anything to do with pronouns. It's about this guy being called sir. And now we can play it and assume that this is bull crap. Talk. Talk. Tick-tock. Looks like he's having a nice feast. She, she, she, her.
Starting point is 02:12:04 Yeah. It's okay. It's all good. But it was not all good. Hi. I use she, her pronouns. I'm not sir. Oh, I see. Yeah, like, it's like a knife in the heart. I also, I did specifically ask ahead of time not to be called sir.
Starting point is 02:12:18 Yeah, I'm just going to go. Okay. Okay. The sweet water starts at... Okay. Not... I mean, I'm so sorry. I apologize. You're just always like a knife.
Starting point is 02:12:30 It always hurts. A knife. Every single time. I was wondering if there's a manager I could talk to about something that happened. Yeah, I was called sir. Okay. It just really sucks every time it happens. I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 02:12:41 I don't need to be called ma'am. I just need to not be called sir. Yeah. Thank you. to not be called sir. Thank you. Did you call me sir? I just want to tell you that the person who gave me this called me sir. Called me sir. It's just like, it kind of just hurts a lot to get called sir.
Starting point is 02:13:01 Oh, sorry about that. Very good. Thank you so much. No. Oh, yeah. Thank you. I. No. Oh, I'm, yeah. Thank you. I'm not a sir. Nothing like a good misgendering. It does, it is a knife in the gut when I get called sir.
Starting point is 02:13:14 I feel like I need to tell him. I need to tell him that that hurt. It hurts more though. And it's not intentional because it means like this, this is sir to him. I know you didn't mean it, but I'm not a sir. I'm so sorry. It's okay. I know you didn't mean it.
Starting point is 02:13:28 It's just, you know, it hurts. I know when people clock me, it's fine, but like it does kind of hurt. Thank you. I'm not sir. I'm not sir. Not sir. Not sir. The guy who dropped the food off, he called me sir twice in a row
Starting point is 02:13:46 thank you i appreciate that right so there's only two possible reasons for this the most likely how do i become a tiktok star the second most likely how do i get out of paying my bill he's eating all kinds of dynamite oysters french stuff nice beautiful food and you call the man every single day i need to talk to the manager you talk to the manager and you get it for free well that's probably it that's a good bit but this whole thing seemed this staged yeah to an extreme nobody cares about it i mean you about the pronouns, but this sir thing is new, and it's bull crap. And this guy, if you saw him, you know, he's got lipstick
Starting point is 02:14:29 on, and he's got a bouffant hairdo, and he's got, you know, he's prissy. Yeah, but restaurants are afraid You're not going to call him sir anyway. Restaurants are afraid of getting called out, going viral on TikTok, and then being protested. There is a fear. I think getting the free food may be the gimmick.
Starting point is 02:14:47 That's like a knife in the gut. I'm going to try it myself here in Fredericksburg. Did you just call me, sir? It's like a knife to my heart. Yes, it is. It's like a knife. Every time. I may talk to the manager.
Starting point is 02:14:59 I mean, I'm really insulted. Oh, you'll just, you'll give it free. Okay. Thank you. They left that out of the video. With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the A-R-C. Yes, welcome to the ARC.
Starting point is 02:15:13 Ladies and gentlemen, say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeBoren. Well, good morning to you, Mr. Adam Green. Good morning to you, Mr. C. Boosting the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room who have been hanging around for quite a while. Let me count you all.
Starting point is 02:15:30 How many do we have? What? 1837 today. I know you're going to say it's low, but we are two hours and 15 minutes into the show. A normal drop-off is to be expected. These will be the new numbers as long as we have our— It's not low. It's not low? 1,800 on a Thursday is
Starting point is 02:15:47 average. Well, then we're above average because we're 2 hours and 15 minutes into the show. This is good news. Well, it's good. This is good. Good on you, trolls. And they've been pretty helpful today, the trolls. They've been, yeah, been nice. Good to see them. I love it. Almost
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Starting point is 02:16:32 Actually, I've been using the upgraded version of Podcast Guru lately. Which, yeah, it's on Android. I'm still using Graphene OS, but that's basically Android. It's good. It is snappy. It's snappy and it does all the live stream stuff and everything you want it to do so try that one out podcast group at podcastapps.com um it's a value for value proposition here on the show we've been doing it for over 16 years people are still amazed how does that work well you you got to ask people first of all you got to treat people with respect. Don't call them your fans or your audience.
Starting point is 02:17:07 Fans. You know, fans. We get a lot of fans helping us out. No, we don't actually have fans. We have the opposite. Go look at No Agenda Social. We got no fans. No, we have producers who take this job very seriously.
Starting point is 02:17:18 And critics, yes. And they take it very seriously. And we appreciate that. And they do all kinds of groovy stuff that we could otherwise never afford to do. Just like NoAgendaArtGenerator.com. Sir Paul Couture wasn't doing that. We never have that. We don't have the budget to have someone make that, maintain that,
Starting point is 02:17:37 monitor it from nut jobs. I mean, that's a beautiful example of some time and talent in the trifecta of time, talents, and treasure. And we really love our producers who update art there and give us art to work with. Just as we love our producers on knowagentosocial.com, of course. And, you know, they're free to criticize us, which happens a lot. Which they seem to be very happy to do. Yes.
Starting point is 02:18:08 Adam shitting on the people that pay his rent. Really? Really? We're giving you a free product here. You only have to give us value back if it's worth anything to you. That's how it works. And most people who make that complaint don't ever contribute. No, probably not.
Starting point is 02:18:23 They never contribute. We had one guy quit the show recently. I don't have his note. I should read it. You two Jew lovers, I've had it with you. Hey, there's the opening of the show right there. That's the opening of the show. I've had it with you. the show. I think we're pretty much in the middle on that and try to just show all sides of what
Starting point is 02:18:48 you're not hearing because you're being mind controlled. No matter where you are, your media is trying to control your thoughts, your actions, and with that comes social media. Anyway, back to the value for value. I want to thank the artist who brought us the artwork for episode 1,603. We titled that one Rolling Start, and it was the second time, second time in a row, which means she's on deck for a hat trick, Dame Kenny Ben. This was such a nice piece that even the artists were posting like, that's it. Well, after Dame Kenny band, we shouldn't even try to compete. That's not worth it anymore. This was the very evil looking pumpkin with the hearing aids
Starting point is 02:19:31 and nice little sound waves going into, these were the, oh, you know, I got a note about that actually, about the high powered hearing aids. Yes, I got, yeah, I got that note too. Read it. I'm glad you grabbed onto the high-powered hearing aids. It caught my attention as well. And this person works for, I'll not say where,
Starting point is 02:19:52 but in the Starkey Company, who are a hearing aid manufacturer. I just want to provide a few points of clarification. High-powered aids are, in fact, a category. They output greater than 120 dbs in gain over the counter can only output to a max of 104 db in gain i've dug through the m5m can't find more info on what they are but it is in fact the starkey um uh i think they call it the power version of the uh power bte behind the ear hearing aids eb start i thought you were going to read
Starting point is 02:20:26 the note about there's also a guy who had this phenomenon was of hearing voices to get that note i think we talked about that on the last show oh okay well i don't remember they also but this company does uh sell to uh does provide the veterans assistance. Regardless, I'd like to know who the audiologist is because this should not be happening to anybody. But yeah, tinnitus also mispronounces tinnitus. There can be
Starting point is 02:20:55 all kinds of extra frequencies that come along with that. It can drive you crazy. It can drive you crazy. There was someone on X x it was like curry you know what you're talking about with hearing aids okay all right all right i think i'm an expert at here why would why would anyone say that did they hate you yeah yeah just basic hates you know not a donor not not a producer trust me on that just some some guy hates you yeah it happens
Starting point is 02:21:22 i'm very hateable. Dame Kenny Ben. Thank you very much, Dame Kenny Ben. We really appreciate what you've done. Once again, let's take a look at some of the art that was submitted as well. A lot of pumpkins, of course. A lot of pumpkins. A lot of pumpkins. And I really like Nico Syme's pumpkin.
Starting point is 02:21:41 I like the all-seeing eye pumpkin. I thought it was a great piece. Yeah, I didn't like it at all, actually, because I thought it was... I didn't like the drawing that was... and I didn't like the all-seeing eye as... No, you didn't like it. A cliché. You hated it. Yeah, you hated it. I hated it. You hated it.
Starting point is 02:21:55 I did. It was hate. It was hate dripping from you. I hate. We both thought the pearl clutch was cute from Dame of the Absurd. Yeah, but it wasn't that cute. But it wasn't clear enough. And yeah, we were clearly looking for... I liked a little...
Starting point is 02:22:12 I did like the Amaryllis Fox videotape or Gentleman's Club, a little thing, but it was too small. Yeah, it was a little too small. Couldn't even read Amaryllis Fox on it. There's a couple other ones. There's another one, the high-powered... Tantanil's a couple other ones there's another one the high powered Tantanil's high powered hearing aid thing all the text is unreadable I don't know what she's thinking
Starting point is 02:22:31 yeah that's too bad we're not going to use what's his name the Matthew Perry thing did you have some bonus content for the donation segment about Matthew Perry you sent me. No, I mean, I had that thing I sent you to put into the show notes, which people can go reference.
Starting point is 02:22:52 It's a it's a rumble show where they go on and on about Matthew Perry's going to blow the lid off pedophilia. That's why they killed him. And that's why they killed him. And I'm thinking, okay sure and my comment in the thread that was floating around was where was the if you have that kind of information you keep threatening it for years you better have a dead man switch someplace exactly in other words something that gets mailed out the minute you're dead do you have a dead man switch for your uh deepest i have a bunch.
Starting point is 02:23:25 A bunch of stuff goes in the mail. Really? All hell is going to break loose. I believe you. I believe you. All hell is going to break loose. I believe you. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, John C. Dvorak has a dead man switch. Nice.
Starting point is 02:23:42 Do I get anything, or is it just going to like the demon? Oh, you're a part of it. You're going to be doomed. It's over for you. Thank you very much, Dave Kenny, Ben, for your artwork. I see a lot of art has already been submitted for this episode. Thank you, artists. You're all highly appreciated, all the work that you do.
Starting point is 02:24:01 Of course, we want to thank our financial donors, part of the treasure of the trifecta. And we always go for our executive and associate executive producers first, along with today, more PhD candidates who will be awarded the coveted No Agenda PhD in Media Deconstruction. And we kick it off with Anthony Sikorsky from Highland, New York, Anthony Sikowski from Highland, New York, who comes in with 1-333-33. In the morning, no jingles, no karma. This donation is for two people. Okay.
Starting point is 02:24:36 1,000 is for my knighthood and PhD. The 333.33 is for my brother, Mike. If you could please dedouche us both. You've been dedouched. My brother hit me in the mouth over 10 years ago now i haven't missed an episode since 2017 please knight me sir anthony protector of installation 07 and thank you for your courage whatever that means we're we're happy to do that happy to do that thank you kyle Thank you. Kyle Selig in Kaukauna, Wisconsin, came in with $1,000.02. And he wrote a handwritten two notes. He wrote one in with a check, and then another envelope came in shortly thereafter.
Starting point is 02:25:17 And the notes are very hard to read. Just my two cents, he writes. I would be honored to call you my friend both friends we're your friends we're your friends kyle both friends i did it for the education you both provided and then another note comes in a different piece of paper with a three-hole punch she says if it if it bounces i lived lived right. Nice. I'll get right with you. John, you better submit that check right away.
Starting point is 02:25:52 If it bounces. Actually, when Jay was going through this and she looks at this note, she says, if it bounces, I lived right. And she says to me, is this a suicide note, you think? No. I hope not no does he add any jingles or anything no that was it
Starting point is 02:26:12 what you see on those two notes alright Kyle thank you yeah thanks Kyle Servant Hamilton Ohio 1000 working at the university as a dude named Ben for 37 years listening to so many boring conferences, lectures, and meetings, but never got a PhD. Now, after 1,000 episodes of No Agenda and
Starting point is 02:26:32 $1 an episode, I have a PhD in media deconstruction. Yes, you do, Sir Vons. I'm getting one as well. Jay has put mine in the mail. I'm very excited. I will have it framed and put it on my wall. Your wall of shame. No, I'm going to put it in the studio. Display'm very excited. I will have it framed and put it on my wall. Your wall of shame. No, I'm going to put it in the studio. Display it proudly. You bet. Okay.
Starting point is 02:26:50 Ah! Yep, yep. Yep, yep. Yep, yep. Jeffrey Corbett's up. It's from Hamilton, Ohio. $1,000. Love the show.
Starting point is 02:27:00 Please knight me. Sir Corby. Thanks. And thank you. Nice note.x in austin texas maybe we'll see you sir cox on the 18th at the meetup 1000 this is my birthday friday the 3rd and this should make me barren dr cox i'd also like to announce my mother's dame name of dame rosie villa protector of wall pockets, as she was damed on her birthday last June 7th and now has chosen her name. And you've made it official, Sir Cox, barren soon to be.
Starting point is 02:27:32 Thank you. Lee C. Noir, $1,000. And he sent a note in, which I have right here. I don't have the, I just have the, I just have the PDF. Hello, John. I'm not Adam. I'm not Adam. Adam's not included? I can't imagine how well, yeah, maybe I can, how tough it can be to live, to do live content.
Starting point is 02:28:04 That's what he says. So he's happy with our work ethic. Yes. I don't want to be that guy who tells you how you screwed up. That's why you're not listed. It's directed at me. Okay. How you screwed up, and here's where I want to avoid the word but.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Adam's great. In the last Kabbalist shows, you commented that the dead attackers in Israel did not have a reason to wear body cams unless, as you suggest, they were going to cover themselves legally in case they got sued. Which makes so much sense. When this happened, I was disappointed. But all politics is local, and that attack was at least as much political as anything. People that, in that circumstance, that choose to wear body cams, I don't know where you get a body cam, to be honest about it, or who were told to wear body cams for local celebrations of their success, or at least
Starting point is 02:29:06 of their activities, probably never thought about lawyers. Lawyers were the first thing you thought of. You can speculate on somebody's motivation if you're that far from what they think. For instance, quote, a good way to spend my day is going into another country and killing families in their beds. Oh, man, this is ghoulish. Your instinct seems to be to dig around for other perspectives, and you're good at it like any other human being. You have your bias.
Starting point is 02:29:39 We all do. Yours is probably more like mine, which makes you interesting to listen to. Thanks. No jingles, no karma. All right. Thanks for the note. Okay. And then again, I said mentions a couple of other things.
Starting point is 02:29:53 Also, I've listened to recent podcasts and it sounds like I can get a knighthood and a degree on the cheap. So here I am. And then he wants to use his name and two different names. He's got a knighthood coming up, and he'll be on his diploma. He has to send the details into noagendarings.com. Soon to be Sir Lee C. Noir. Yes, indeed. And Sir David Ross from Colorado Springs
Starting point is 02:30:17 comes in with 50604. Dear John and Adam, here's a number station for you. Pay attention, comrades. I hope your day is filled with warmth and sunshine and victory parades for the Texas Rangers Dear John and Adam, here's a number station for you. Pay attention, comrades. I hope your day is filled with warmth and sunshine and victory parades for the Texas Rangers and next year, the Dallas Cowboys. I love you both. 73s.
Starting point is 02:30:32 David, Kilo 5, Delta, Papa Yankee. Sir David of Ross. Well, 73s. Kilo 5, Alpha, Charlie, Charlie. I'll give you a gratuitous rubbleizer. India, Tango, Mike. Standby. 33 standby 33 33 33 rubbleizer out there you go gratuitous number station for you nisha pet in boseville boseville is something i is some french
Starting point is 02:31:00 it's in quebec so it's pronounced in the Quebecois. I am Nishapet, a French Scandinavian. Thanks for all you do. My life would not be the same without you. I donated with PayPal $3.69, which is $5.33, $55 Canadian. Please play an order. Douchebag, me no like it. You've been dedouched and respicked.
Starting point is 02:31:25 Douchebag, me no like it. You've been de-douched and respect. Douchebag. Me no like it. You've been de-douched. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. All righty then. Let's see. We have Anonymous from Orlando. Let me open up the note here. And hold on a second.
Starting point is 02:31:47 Where is page two? Yeah, page two. I got it. Is it one of those long ones? No, it's a short one. Here we go. In the morning, John and Adam, first time. What are you drinking?
Starting point is 02:31:57 Just Polar. First time plus birthday donation. Man, you heard that little. I hear that. I can recognize. This microphone is amazing. What is your microphone? Is the the heil heil yeah it's a heil wish i could send more to reflect the value i find listening each week no you know what i'm going to disagree with you if this is
Starting point is 02:32:16 if this is your max you sent us a lot you you reach the top this is highly appreciated however keeping my three human resources out of terrible public schools takes top priority these days. Love and light from the deep blue bleeding heart of Orange County, Florida, where critical thinking is prohibited. P.S. I haven't heard anyone tell you this in a while, so keep doing what you're doing. You bet. And I'll give you a de-douching since it's the first time. You've been deouched brendan takash or takash or takash in western springs illinois 333 switcheroo switcheroo switcheroo itm john and adam the raffle was held at Sir Spooky's Halloween Spooktacular this past Sunday. 17 people attended and contributed.
Starting point is 02:33:08 Please credit Sir LQTM as the winner of this executive producer title. Full meetup report will be sent to Adam. Jingles, don't eat me, Joe Bojiden. JCD, donate. Regards, Brendan Takash, Sir Spooky of the Elm Streets. Don't eat me, Bo Jyden, you're scary, so scary.
Starting point is 02:33:36 Donate, donate, donate. Donate, donate, donate. Oh, that's the worst one. I should mention that Sir LQTM said in a separate note, saying thank you to all the attendees to Sir Spooky of the Elm Street's meetup for making this credit possible. Also, thanks for making me feel welcome at my first meetup.
Starting point is 02:33:59 First time in, big winner. Please grant karma to all the attendees and kindly play jcd spooky donate which is up there already see y'all at the next one all right then we have a another switcheroo which is from uh lady vox dame of the gateway switcheroo please credit my donation to system sam samuel corp i'm not interested in climbing the peerage ladder but i love bringing others to the round table hello adam and john please do not misquote me to your million plus listeners i don't hate you i never said i did oh i know what this is on the last show at the very end uh we had lady vox with her show next on the stream and this is lady vox who said, I'm just not donating to them anymore.
Starting point is 02:34:48 Then she's right. She did not say she hated us. In fact, she doesn't hate us. I know she does. No, she didn't say she hated us. She said she's not donating anymore. I know. It was a faux pas.
Starting point is 02:34:57 I'm wrong. I repent. I apologize. Forgive me. I just didn't appreciate your sometimes condescending or entitled tune towards people who give their time, talent, and treasure in so many ways to help sustain this amazing community you've inspired. How come I'm not allowed to be condescending or entitled on no agenda social?
Starting point is 02:35:18 Everybody does that. I'm not allowed to troll. Everybody is condescending and entitled on no agenda social. I'm not allowed to do it. I'm not allowed to do it. For condescending and entitled on no agenda social. I'm not allowed to do it. I'm not allowed to do it. For some reason, I have to be holy. But you, the guy who set the whole thing up, has to shut up and sit down. That's pretty much it.
Starting point is 02:35:35 What is this? I'm not allowed to troll. And actually, it was a mistake because if you go back and look at the thread, which I do not advise anybody to do, I was not even, and this is part of the problem with social media and Mastodon in particular. I made a comment to the other person on the thread
Starting point is 02:35:52 and it was like, dude, you want a hug? That was my condescending tone. But I'm not allowed to do that because it's no good. I have to be a bootlicking lackey to all. This is why I just don't post much. Bootlicking lackey to all. This is why I just don't post much. Bootlicking lackey. That's right. I need to just be a lackey.
Starting point is 02:36:11 I love the V4V model. It's what drew me to the show in the first place and what keeps me here. But V4V is about more than just financial support. I never, for one moment, abandoned the model. Well, no, you did. Yeah, you did. You said it. You said I'm just not giving my money to other podcasts.
Starting point is 02:36:29 She's going to get mad about this now, too. Yeah, well, let her. If you listen around the stream, you will understand that I participate, contribute and collaborate with my mouth, my mind and my money. Independent media has become my cause and my purpose since M5M literally scared my father to death during schmovid you have his ww2 ham radio bug i do and i really appreciate this i treasure that actually that is in my in my studio in my museum what'd you do she gave me her dad's world war ii ham radio bug like a you know it's a morse code key only it's a bug so it goes it's a works a little differently yeah but she gave that to me wow
Starting point is 02:37:05 long time ago yeah yeah i remember that now because you i think you took a picture of it and send it around yeah i wouldn't have given something that special to someone i hate yes yes huh i defend podcasting with a visceral she's not asking for it back is she asking for it back no no she's a good she's a good egg no problem good? She's a good egg. I defend podcasting with a visceral intensity that nearly got me my smoking hot sir into a bar fight last night. You got into a fight over a podcast? One of those women. I know the type. So please don't.
Starting point is 02:37:35 Are you going to let him say that to you? Hey, man, podcasting sucks. So please don't ever tell this audience I hate you. I apologize. You do not hate me. We're all just here to knock the sharp edges off each other, man. For a better community, I'd never withdraw my support from a noble cause. And then, best regards, Lady Vox, Dame of the Gateway.
Starting point is 02:38:02 P.S. Sir Spencer of Bowl After bowl would really appreciate it if jcd would unblock him on no agenda social i humbly request this on his behalf he's a glorious asset to get monation unblock him john uh you know i don't know how to unblock you go to your profile and right there i don't care i don't want to know ladyvox i'll take it okay it's under advisement okay lady vox but i misquoted you i apologize however but i get to troll too i i feel i should be no agenda social is no agenda social i want to be able to you just want to hug man come on back if that's not condescending or entitled. That's just trolling. But I, you know. All right, we're onward.
Starting point is 02:38:48 Onward, yes. Last one. Linda Lupatkin, Lakewood, Colorado. Jobs Karma. For a resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com
Starting point is 02:39:10 or just find Linda Lupatkin under the show's producer list. There you go. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers and PhD awardees. Our graduates of No Agenda, thank you all very much. We highly appreciate what you do.
Starting point is 02:39:36 The PhD, of course, is real. The titles are real. You are an executive or associate executive producer of episode 1604 of the No Agenda show. Put that anywhere where titles are recognized. It's recognized all over Hollywood while it still exists. Put it on IMDB.com. You'll see. Hollywood is there.
Starting point is 02:39:55 You'll be recognized. It's totally valid. And John's going to take us through to the 50s. And we'll get to our nightings, our PhD graduates, etc. I would definitely put it on my LinkedIn profile too. Sir Tooth Fairy, Valparaiso, Indiana, $160.40. Sir Bates in Bloomington, Minnesota, $160.16. Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochesterchester minnesota 160 04 these are the uh special 160 that uh
Starting point is 02:40:30 basically the kepler supernova donations be huge promotion we got three people like great idea when i saw that i'm like this is gonna go nowhere This is not a good promotion. It wasn't even my idea. Who do we blame? Jay? No, no. It was one of our producers that sent the note in because he said, you know, there's nothing else going on. I want you to try this. Thanks. Well, he got three.
Starting point is 02:41:00 Sandra Edmonds in, or did I do Lydia Terry Dominelli in Rochester, New Hampshire? You have now. 160.04. You have now. Okay. Sandra Edmonds in Lakeside, California.
Starting point is 02:41:13 120. Baron Lattican, $100 from Houston, Texas. Kevin McLaughlin. Here he is. This is a short list again. We're not going to be doing better. 8008-1604, boob donation. And he's got the no pun.
Starting point is 02:41:31 He's the Duke of Luna. Oh, and punless. Punless, wow. Okay. Punless. Shelby Diamond Star Photography in Des Plaines, Illinois. 80. He's a happy 16th.
Starting point is 02:41:47 Okay. Dana, Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada, 72, 27. And I got one I can't get even read because this is for some reason wrote a long note. He wrote a note to me, David, Sir David Jarman from North Turamara, New South Wales, and came in with 72. And very nice note. I appreciate what you wrote there. And he came in with a second donation of 63.85. Not sure why, but he does ask ask why do i have to pay a hundred and he says 1,640
Starting point is 02:42:31 and 55 cents in dollar reduce to get a thousand dollars usd back in not 2009 it was parody yeah you got a question what happened there there? What happened? It happens. We had parity with Canada for a while, too, during the Iraqi war. Yeah. Kevin, back to Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, 6006. Small boobs. Bernie Adama. Oh, Bernie. Adama in Hinton, Iowa.
Starting point is 02:43:02 Yeah, Bernie. 5110. We haven't heard from Sir Bernie for a while. He's in the meetup report. Sir Luke Rayner in London, UK. 55. And now we have $50 donors. And again, we have a short list.
Starting point is 02:43:15 Again, today. Jill Woods in Ocean Grove, New Jersey. Kyle Mann in Cincinnati, Ohio. Julie Minadio in Costa Mesa, California. Ryan Sharp in Huntsville, Alabama. Brandon Locklear in Sugar Hill, Georgia. Justin Hellner in Vine Grove, Kentucky. Shauna Norberg in Seattle, Washington.
Starting point is 02:43:42 Tony Lang in Castle Pines, Colorado. Dotted Mind in Lincolnshire, UK. And Jordan, last but not least, in the very short list of 36 total, Jordan Poino in Salem, Don't Inhale Him, Oregon. I want to thank these folks for making the show 16.04 happen. And as always, we thank everyone who came in under $50. That is usually for reasons of anonymity. We'll do $49.99.
Starting point is 02:44:16 It happens all the time. We will not read those. And, of course, everybody who has a sustaining donation. If you don't have one, please consider getting one of those. It can just be whatever small amount you want per month, but we get enough of those and it does keep us through the rougher patches.
Starting point is 02:44:30 If you'd like to learn more, go here. Dvorak.org slash N-A or noagendedonations.com and thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers of 1604. Our formula is this. We go out,
Starting point is 02:44:46 we hit people in the mouth. Order. Order. Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave. It's your birthday, birthday. I don't know what you got. It's your birthday, birthday On November 2nd And it's kind of short list today, but we start off with Sir By His Grace, who wishes Greta a happy third birthday.
Starting point is 02:45:13 She celebrated on the 30th. Greta is, of course, the three-legged wonder dog. Sir Cox celebrates on the 3rd of November tomorrow. And happy birthday to Anonymous from Orlando. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. Title changes. Turn and face the slaves.
Starting point is 02:45:33 Title changes. Don't want to be a douchebag. Nah, no douchebaggery here. We heard him earlier with his donation, Sir Cox, who also will be a graduate of the PhD in media deconstruction. He has donated an additional $1,000. It can be all in one go or an aggregate,
Starting point is 02:45:51 but you now are officially Baron Dr. Cox. Actually, you'll be official once I give you that PhD, but we'll just call it that for now. Thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe. Now I'd like to hand out our PhDs up on the podium here.
Starting point is 02:46:06 Anthony Sokowski, Kyle Selig, Sir Vont, Jeffrey Corbett, Sir Cox, and Sir Lee Noir, who will be a sir in just a moment. All of you are now official graduates of No Agenda. Graduates, you have a PhD in media deconstruction. Thank you for supporting us and thank you for graduating. Thank you for graduating. I'm getting better at it.
Starting point is 02:46:38 Yeah, your script needs work. Well, it's not like anyone is writing me a script. I could use some help. Just saying. Get a hold of Jen Psaki's producer. Oh, please. Now you're just insulting me. Now you're just insulting me.
Starting point is 02:46:54 We have one dame, and we have three knights, so if you can grab your... Oh, I'll take that. Hello, Rosie. Come on up here. Anthony Sikovsky, Jeffrey Corbett, and there he is, Lee Seenor. All of you have supported the Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more. Some of you instantaneously.
Starting point is 02:47:13 Today, I'm therefore very proud to pronounce the as Dame Rosie Villa, protector of wall pockets. Sir Anthony, protector of installation 07. Sir Corby and Sir Lee Noir. For you, we've got Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys, and Chardonnay. Along with that, we've got Warm Beer and Cold Women, Fish Pie and Fallatio. We've got Harlots and Haldol, Redheads and Rhyes, Organic Macaroni and Plasticizers, Beer and Blunts, Rupin S. Rupin and Rosé, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbils, and of course, Mutton and Mead.
Starting point is 02:47:44 Yes, head over there to uh to knowagendarings.com also if you got a phd today the same website will help you enter your address so we know where to send it exactly what name you want on it for our night our nights and our dame yes and we recommend you put your name on it actually yeah it'll it'll look a lot more a lot more yeah well so what people won't go up to it because you're going to put it on the wall maybe and go, what is this? Yeah, you don't want that because you go up to it and be like,
Starting point is 02:48:11 oh, this is real, which it is. It's a real PhD in media deconstruction. Noagendaringes.com. And for those of you who are a dame or knights today, you will also get your wax to seal your important correspondence with. Along with that comes a certificate of authenticity. And thank you all from the bottom of our hearts.
Starting point is 02:48:30 Thank you so much for supporting the show. We love what we do and we couldn't do it without you. No Agenda Meetups. Yes, it's No Agenda, the home game. You get to do it all together in a location of your choice no agenda meetups.com is where you can find out where in the world a meetup will take place near you it is an incredible list it is an incredible collection of producers who are out there organizing these it is more necessary now than ever in today's crazy world. You just get out, you just put your phone in your back pocket, turn it off,
Starting point is 02:49:12 hang out with some people, have a brewski or whatever you want to do and just chat and have a good time. Meet children from other lands. And this is what they did in Fort Wayne in October. Here's their meetup report. Hello, Adam and John. This is Shannon from Fort Wayne. Many believe, and it's likely true, that everybody in attendance had a great time. Look at that juice. PBR Street Gang in the morning. Thank you for your courage. Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne.
Starting point is 02:49:34 Thank you for your courage. Hi, it's Shelly from Fort Wayne. Thank you for your courage. This is Jared from Fort Wayne. Not the subway guy. Yeah, thank you. The Webster County Wet Your Whistle meetup sent in a report. Hello, hello, hello. This is Charles Shelton. The Webster County Wet Your Whistle meetup sent in a report. Hello, hello, hello.
Starting point is 02:49:46 This is Charles Shelton at the Webster County Wet Your Whistle Wednesday meetup, third monthly. And we have a nice, fine crowd of fine folks here. I'm just going to pass the phone around. Sir Matt Decker in the morning. Shout out to Dangerous Dan. Couldn't make it, but shout out to him. This is Baronet Benjamin. We had pizza.
Starting point is 02:50:06 Beautiful. In the morning. In the morning. This is Sir Bernie Adamo from Hinton, Iowa, attending my first meeting out here. So I hope you and John and Adam are doing well. Good morning and in the morning to Gitmo Nation. Thank you for your courage for everybody coming out here today. And connection is protection.
Starting point is 02:50:24 Respect we much. We must. We mitch much. everybody coming out here today. And connection is protection. Respect we much. We must. We mitch much. What's that much? Bitch be committed. Nailed it. Fantastic. Great report.
Starting point is 02:50:34 We got a written report from Sir Spooky of the Elm Streets. The Halloween Spooktacular meetup was one of the friendliest good time. Was a friend fiendishly good time. I'm sorry. It was one of the highestliest good times. It was a friend fiendishly good time. I'm sorry. It was one of the highest attended suburban Chicago meetups. Happy to report that a few people wore costumes. Curiously, the first couple to attend came dressed as federal agents. Was it a costume or their uniform?
Starting point is 02:50:58 Can't be too sure. We raffled off some horror movies, a cozy blanket from the Noah Jenner shop, and credit for the donation. We got that earlier. A generous group of producers managed to raise the pot to the executive level. Ultimately, Sir LQTM was the lucky winner of the credit. It was his first meetup.
Starting point is 02:51:13 Donation of 333 is coming via PayPal. The final highlight of the night was watching a very special episode of Swamp Thing. Yes, your performance as rock star Nathan Stone elevated an otherwise goofy and baffling plot. You had more screen time than the titular swamp thing himself. And for that, we're grateful. I look forward to screening it again next year. And thank you very much for that report, Brandon. Sounds like it was a very fine meetup indeed. Here's what's on the calendar for
Starting point is 02:51:42 today. New Hampshire's meetup at the Community Oven should kick off in just a bit at Epping, and that's in Epping, New Hampshire. The Five Forks first Thursday inaugural meetup at Bullwinkle's Tavern in Simpsonville, South Carolina, six o'clock today. The, yeah, no, November Northern Wake, no agenda meetup, six o'clock at Compass Rose Brewing
Starting point is 02:52:02 in Raleigh, North Carolina, underway in just about an hour from now. Tomorrow, the second official Vancouver, Canada meetup. 6 o'clock at Compass Rose Brewing in Raleigh, North Carolina. Underway in just about an hour from now. Tomorrow, the second official Vancouver Canada meetup for 2023. Let me reserve a place for you at Ludicia Pizza. 7 o'clock, Vancouver, British Columbia, Scandinavia. On Saturday, Fun and Frisco. 2 o'clock at Sky House Frisco Station, Frisco, Texas. And finally, on Sunday, our next show day, Central Florida meetup. 2 o'clock at Hourglass Brewisco Station, Frisco, Texas. And finally, on Sunday, our next show day,
Starting point is 02:52:25 Central Florida meetup, two o'clock at Hourglass Brewing in Longwood, Florida. Reminder, the Keeper and I will be at the Austin Sunset Valley, I think that's Doc's backyard meetup on November 18th, and at the Indianapolis, Indiana meetup on December 4th. There's going to be people from neighboring states coming to that meetup. It's going to be quite the scene, I believe. And we're very excited to be there. No Agenda Meetups, it's a great place to get together with people who think the same, who don't get
Starting point is 02:52:54 triggered by stuff, who aren't mind controlled by the media, and who know that connection is protection. Noagendameetups.com If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. You want to be where you want to be.
Starting point is 02:53:16 Triggered or held to blame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Be where everybody feels the same. It's like a party. Well, I only have one ISO. It's just, it is what it is, so I'll play it. I have one ISO, too. Let me play mine.
Starting point is 02:53:35 Wow. That's my ISO. Wow. Can you beat that? Can you beat that? Can you beat that? I think I do beat it. Fascinating.
Starting point is 02:53:45 We could do them both. They're so short. Fascinating. Wow. How about the other way? Okay. Let me try the other way around. Wow.
Starting point is 02:53:54 Fascinating. Okay. Sold. Sold. We'll do it live. We'll do it on the fly. Do it live. Do it live.
Starting point is 02:54:00 Do it live. Do I have one goofy clip I want to play? Although it could be the end of the show. Hold let me if you're gonna do something goofy let me just make sure we don't do anything important uh it's all bump it's all down i have long covet explained yeah new lake and death valley i want to do covet on there's there's some there's some great stuff for sunday the whatsapp gate with boris johnson's Johnson's the WhatsApps about this big inquiry about... Oh, okay. We'll do that on Sunday. We'll do that. Well, I do have one
Starting point is 02:54:30 more serious one I want to get out of the way from you, Tank. No, don't do anything serious. Do something funny. Okay, well, I got the one funny. This has been going around. This is the clip that's been floating around because it's so funny. It's from an Australian news channel about it's the Oz TV biotech story.
Starting point is 02:54:50 An Australian biotech company has developed a new treatment it hopes will predict people dying from COVID vaccine. Wow. Who needs that? We can predict it for you. That's crazy. All right. I'll do a crazy one.
Starting point is 02:55:11 This is just a couple of new terms. It's only 58 seconds. They had the United Nations World Cities Day held in Turkey. Hey, in Turkey. Hey. day held in turkey a hey in turkey a and uh her excellency emin erdogan i guess uh that uh president erdogan's wife is an excellency she gave a speech as did the what's his face but there was a new term in here that I really liked. The key to every global change is hidden in urbanization. However, the importance of cities has gained a different dimension in the
Starting point is 02:55:54 modern world, where urbanization is growing at an unstoppable pace. Research shows that by 2050, seven out of ten people will live in cities. Rapid urbanization brings with it many crises and tests for us. One of the most important problems it has raised is undoubtedly climate change, which has turned our Earth into a bleeding globe. Come on, come on. The what? The bleeding globe. A bleeding globe?
Starting point is 02:56:22 That's the new term. Our Earth, thanks to climate change, our Earth is now a bleeding globe? That's the new term. Our Earth, thanks to climate change, our Earth is now a bleeding globe. Wow. That was my thinking exactly. Wow. Wow. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 02:56:42 So we do have some good stuff for Sunday. I have a ton of big pharma related things, along with COVID and more climate change. We just had to give you the important stuff today. So aren't you glad you made it? Aren't you glad you're here? Aren't you glad you downloaded? Aren't you glad you subscribed to our podcast? Hit the subscribe button and that alarm bell.
Starting point is 02:57:04 Pound it. Pound it. Pound it. Coming up next on No Agenda Stream, we have, oh, Podcasting 2.0. You hear the latest about what's going on in Podcasting 2.0. We've got a Bomberan end-of-show
Starting point is 02:57:19 mix with, man, some old ones there. Donald is in there. I'll put it all in the credits. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, it's here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, and we have our summer, it's continuing. I'm John C. Dvorak. Oh, well, winter has kicked in here. It's 37 degrees outside. Remember us. 75. Remember us at Dvorak. Oh, well, winter has kicked in here. It's 37 degrees outside. Remember us. 75. Remember us at Dvorak.org
Starting point is 02:57:47 slash NA until Sunday. Adios mofos, a-hooey, hooey, and, and, and such. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, I ran. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, I ran. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, I ran. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, I ran. Bum, bum, bum, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb, bomb, bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb them, bomb them, and then bomb them again.
Starting point is 02:58:28 Bomb them. We need to kill and bomb them. Bomb them. We need to kill and bomb them. Bomb them. We need to bomb them. We need to kill them and bomb them again. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran. Bomb Iran. Bomb Iran. And bomb them again.
Starting point is 02:59:01 Somebody's going to drop a nuke here. I don't know who it is, but I don't want to watch it. We need to kill them. We need to kill them. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. And bomb them again, eh? We need to kill them.
Starting point is 02:59:41 We need to kill them. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. And bomb them again, eh? And bomb them again, eh? Bomb them. Bomb them. And bomb them again, eh?
Starting point is 03:00:00 And bomb them again, eh? Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. bomb them, bomb them and kill them. Bomb them, bomb them, bomb them and kill them. Bomb, bomb, bomb them again. Bomb, bomb, bomb them again. We need to kill them. Bomb, bomb, bomb them again We need to kill them Bomb, bomb, bomb them again
Starting point is 03:00:27 Bomb, bomb, bomb them again We need to kill them And bomb them again Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran Let's take a stand Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran Bom-bom-bom-bom-bom-I-Rand. Bom-bom-bom-bom-bom-I-Rand. Let's take a stand. Bom-bom-bom-bom-bom-I-Rand.
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Starting point is 03:01:14 Fascinating.

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