No Agenda - 1612 - "Global Donut"

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

No Agenda Episode 1612 - "Global Donut" "Global Donut" Executive Producers: Frank Ajzensztat Robert Dawson Derek Heidbrink Pluma Kirk Pettis Kevin McLaughlin biolife member drury Matt Lybik Justin ...Frank Polgar Sir Midknight of the Rivers Sir Don M. Scott Clarke JackAsh Chris Fosgate Joel Hansen Andy Cracchiolo Sir Dave the Reformed Bt. Robyn Robson Sir Thomas Lord of the Ham Radio Hobbits Remko de Vrijer www.WildDirtCo.com Viscount of Hamilton Dame Missy anonymous Mike Dee nicholas schroeder Sir Pants Sir Ass Crack Quint Y. Newell Henry Cocozzoli Resolvent Technologies, Inc Danyel Lawson Aaron Bojorquez Sir Yogi Sir Gooch of RVA Joe Michael Halbe Jonathan Lang Skodt McNalty Alex Ulrich Eric Halbritter Todd Maceira James Bartels Margaret Kenny Sir Henry Andrew Hermann Amy Thurmond Sir Lance Jon Kelber Joanne Fortune Jackie Green Associate Executive Producers: Tyler Holm Linda Lupatkin PhD Graduates: Frank Ajzensztat Robert Dawson Derek Heidbrink Pluma Kirk Pettis Kevin McLaughlin biolife member drury Matt Lybik Justin Frank Polgar Sir Midknight of the Rivers Sir Don M. Scott Clarke JackAsh Chris Fosgate Joel Hansen Andy Cracchiolo Sir Dave the Reformed Bt. Robyn Robson Tom Remko de Vrijer www.WildDirtCo.com Viscount of Hamilton Dame Missy anonymous Mike Dee nicholas schroeder Sir Pants Sir Pants Quint Y. Newell Henry Cocozzoli Resolvent Technologies, Inc Danyel Lawson Aaron Bojorquez Sir Yogi Sir Gooch of RVA Joe Michael Halbe Jonathan Lang Skodt McNalty Alex Ulrich Eric Halbritter Todd Maceira James Bartels Margaret Kenny Sir Henry Andrew Hermann Amy Thurmond Sir Lance Sir Ass Crack Title Change Sir Frank Ajzensztat > Duke of Frankness Sir Midknight of the Rivers > Baronet Sir Jason Rivers Sir Dave the Reformed Bt > Baronet Sir Henry > Baron Knights & Dames Pluma > PLUMA: DAME OF THE FEATHERED WHALES Missy > Dame Missy Amy Thurmond > Dame Amy of the Shining Sun Robert Dawson > Sir Robert Dawson Derek Heidbrink > Sir Derek, protector of Star Lake Kirk Pettis > Sir Reign the Kingmaker PhD biolife member drury > Sir Curl the Wagons protector of the Missouri Ozarks from Moberly South to Branson Justin Frank Polgar > Sir Yes Sir M. Scott Clarke > sir Viper 515 JackAsh > Sir JackAsh , Wandering Sasquatch of the Gardena, Snohomish, and Watauga Valleys. Robyn Robson > Sir Robyn of the Whack (Chilliwack BC) Candanaivia Tom > Sir Thomas, Lord of the Ham Radio Hobbits Remko de Vrijer > Sir Remko, Knight of Tivissa and the Spanish refuge of Ribera d'Ebre Viber > Sir Viber of Still Waters anonymous> Sir Big A Mike Dee> Sir Mike Dee of 7 Billion Rising Danyel Lawson > Sir Love and Baron of Bayridge in Kings County NYC Aaron Bojorquez > Knight Phelipillo of the Baburia Plains Joe > Sir Jolly the Brave of the Maine Mountains Jonathan Lang > Sir NoPls Skodt McNalty > Sir Sködt-o-matik of the Khandanavian High Ground Todd Maceira > SIr Todzel the unvaccinated James Bartels > sir Jim of kc stage hands Margaret Kenny > Dame Kenny of the Megalodon Chris Fosgate- Sir Chris Knight of the Kansas City Real Estate Joel Hansen- Sir schmole Andrew Hermann > Sir Andrew Hermann Lance > Sir Lance, knight of the Northern Rivers Become a member of the 1613 Club, support the show here Boost us with with Podcasting 2.0 Certified apps: Podverse - Podfriend - Breez - Sphinx - Podstation - Curiocaster - Fountain Art By: End of Show Mixes: Coconut Pete - Sir Dr Eye - Sound guy Steve - Neal Jones Engineering, Stream Management & Wizardry Mark van Dijk - Systems Master Ryan Bemrose - Program Director Back Office Jae Dvorak Chapters: Dreb Scott Clip Custodian: Neal Jones Clip Collectors: Steve Jones & Dave Ackerman NEW: and soon on Netflix: Animated No Agenda Sign Up for the newsletter No Agenda Peerage ShowNotes Archive of links and Assets (clips etc) 1612.noagendanotes.com Directory Archive of Shownotes (includes all audio and video assets used) archive.noagendanotes.com RSS Podcast Feed Full Summaries in PDF No Agenda Lite in opus format Last Modified 11/30/2023 17:30:14This page created with the FreedomController Last Modified 11/30/2023 17:30:14 by Freedom Controller  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I love pop-up bagels. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Thursday, November 30th, 2023. This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination episode 1612. This is no agenda. Celebrating our PhDs
Starting point is 00:00:16 and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're saying RIP Henry Kissinger. That means it's the end of the adrenochrome shortage.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill. In the morning. Are you telling me that Kissinger was hoarding the adrenochrome? Well, this guy must have been using most of it. Most of the world's supply. Whoa. Well, that I did not expect from you,
Starting point is 00:00:53 but I'm all in on it. It's, you know, when you think about it, the Great Reset, I keep saying, you know, the Queen is gone, Kissinger is gone, Charlie Munger's gone, the Pope is sick. We're almost at the Great Reset. Hmm? Yeah, well, I think
Starting point is 00:01:12 those guys are all responsible for it, so maybe the Great Reset won't happen. Yeah, well, a Great Reset, maybe not the one they're expecting. Maybe not that one. I have to ask you a question right off the bat. We were at a dinner, and I met a guy. No, you shouldn't give him your money.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Who was a huge donor and alum of UC Berkeley. Okay. And he's about your age, And he was, you know, big in the sports and donated tons of money and he no longer donates. I'm not giving any more to those nut jobs.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I say, by any chance, do you know John C. Dvorak? Oh, of course I do. Bill Bart? Bill Bart. B-A-R-D-T? He's a wine guy. He's into sailing.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I may have met a guy named Bill Bart. B-A-R-D-T. He's a wine guy. He's into sailing. I may have met a guy named Bill Bart. Well, he was like, oh, of course. He never shows up. He never calls. He never writes. Well, surprise, surprise. Next time I see him, I say, hey, man, John's all pissed off. You never write.
Starting point is 00:02:22 You never show up. Never call. Never write. You never come to the alumni meetings it was just it was one of those I actually you know they used to solicit me constantly and then I've my original thing was I it's and if you're a Cal graduate you you've learned how to tell people not know, which is something they teach you. And so I used to say, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:51 the problem is Earl Anthony produced this building and gave it to the university, and it had to be for all, for the end of time, it had to be used for a humor magazine. It used to house the California Pelican. And then out of the blue, I don't know, the 80s or something, they just took the building and turned it into something else. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And they stole the building from this guy who donated it. Of course, the guy's long dead, so they don't care. They do this all the time. All the universities do it. I mean, they take people's names off of things, as you know. Oh, yeah. And so that kind of almost worked, but it didn't quite work until they called one year. And then I haven't heard since.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I have not heard one call since do you and i they called and they said you know alumni we need money yeah do you think they've heard our show maybe like just take him off the list and you said what i said uh well i was looking at the money that the Cal is donating politically, and they gave $1 million to the Barack Obama campaign. If you can give that kind of money away, you don't need my money. And they never called since. Surprise, surprise. Who would have thunk? Yeah, Bill, Billy, I think is the name he called.
Starting point is 00:04:01 He said, yeah, you know, last time I was there, you know, they needed new uniforms with the volleyball team. I gave him cash. I said, I'm not going to put it into the coffers. You'll never get it. Here's cash. So that's probably true. That was probably true.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Yeah. I said, right. Have you heard our show? We always accept cash. Cash is good. Cash is good. But we did. Checks are easier to account for i don't you know this
Starting point is 00:04:27 is true money flying around um so just like uh we got kind of like an early warning from richard haas about ukraine and russia about that winding down i think I may have, not quite to that level, but I have a signal that, I don't know if it's been discussed that much, but CBS has this new reporter, intelligence reporter who is complete spook. She's got that spook face. She's blonde, long blonde hair.
Starting point is 00:05:03 She has a very hard time looking straight ahead at the person she's talking to. So she keeps looking down. Yeah, that's, yeah. Bookers do that too. Okay, let me mark that one. I can't remember, John. I can't remember, but you're probably right. And, I mean, she's just total spook. And I've never seen her before. Maybe you have. She's on CBS. And she brings us the news that our director of CIA is now getting directly involved in the hostage negotiations, which to me means one of two things or possibly both the biden administration
Starting point is 00:05:46 has has pulled the ripcord like this has got to stop because the genocide joe thing is out of control totally out of control and possibly that cia is responsible for all malaise around the world and that the cia controls all of this crap. But, you know, hold on. The CIA not wanting Biden to come back might be behind Genocide Joe. There you go. Well, let's listen to. Oh, can you imagine that you're so right? Or at least one section of the CIA?
Starting point is 00:06:18 Well, let's listen to this because there's a couple of interesting little tidbits in this. And, you know, I typically wouldn't start off at the top of the show with the Israel Hamas conflict. But this just it came in this morning like this. I got to talk to John about it. CBS News intelligence and national security reporter Olivia Gazis joins us now. Sure. Well, there's lots of moving parts here, Nancy, but broadening the pool of hostages eligible for release is one of the key components that the U.S. and Burns is pushing for here. Specifically, that means extending in future agreements the eligibility to men and soldiers, which make up some, if not most, of the American hostages that continue to be held by Hamas. Okay, right off the bat, men and soldiers, which is most of the hostages held by Hamas?
Starting point is 00:07:06 Soldiers? Are soldiers men? Are these agents? Are these advisors? What do you think this is? I think they're changing the narrative. Sounds like all the women are out now, I guess, according to the spook lady. Now, it's a tough sell. Hamas has not shown any indication that it's open to this kind of arrangement in previous talks.
Starting point is 00:07:26 But one of the bargaining chips on the table, we're told, is Israel may boost the ratio of Palestinian prisoners that it's releasing in order to secure more hostages. So thus far, the ratio had been three to one or 150 for the 50 hostages that have come out to date. hostages that have come out to date and we could see that ratio boosted in hamas's favor in order to cajole the release of these more tightly held hostages including men and soldiers this this it's all weird you know we up the ratio from three to one and doesn't this sound like some kind of important guy exchange that is going on here and who are all these palestinian um uh detainees that israel has well that's the ones the same women and children that they grabbed from the west bank and elsewhere who threw a rock at a soldier and they threw him in jail okay including men and soldiers that's really interesting because right now the ceasefire is supposed to lift on Thursday morning. Why send the CIA director to run point on this negotiation?
Starting point is 00:08:27 It's a great question. Oh, no. Now I know she's a spook for sure. Thursday morning. Why send the CIA director to run point on this negotiation? It's a great question. I mean, Bill Burns has been deployed
Starting point is 00:08:42 by this administration as a sort of behind the scenes. He's this administration as a sort of behind the scenes. Deployed. He's been deployed as a sort of behind the scenes. A negotiating utility knife and some of the- A utility knife. He's like a Swiss army knife. He's a negotiating utility knife. Yes, that's what you want. That's what you want. Sort of behind the scenes, a negotiating utility knife and some of the thorniest geopolitical snares. Or Was he going to use the corkscrew on him or the tweezers? I mean, which, you know, or is it a Leatherman that also has a vice you put on the nuts? It's confronted thus far.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So he dealt with the Taliban as the U.S. left Afghanistan. Well, that was well done. Good work. To warn Vladimir Putin ahead of the invasion of Ukraine. Another good one. He worked on thawing frozen relations with Beijing in the aftermath of the invasion of Ukraine. Another good one. He worked on thawing frozen relations with Beijing in the aftermath of that spy balloon incident. Okay. Wow. This guy has quite the record. So he's really been working behind the scenes. And now he, you know, he has
Starting point is 00:09:37 been, he's a veteran diplomat. He's got a wealth of contacts. He's got a lot of gravitas in the region. He's now got the added benefit as an intelligence chief of working behind the scenes in relative obscurity, which some of these really tough deals require in order to break through. He's also meeting with counterparts from Israel and Egypt, who similarly have a lot of influence and clout in their respective countries and regions. And so that's why there's hope that this group of stakeholders in, again, relative obscurity can make some real headway here. And he's got deep ties in Israel as well. That's right. Yes. And dealing with the Mossad director that he knows very well is an added bonus here. What's his name?
Starting point is 00:10:17 Who? The Mossad director? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know his name. What did they say? They say the Mossad director. Yeah. The MD, Mossad director yeah yeah the md masad director he has gravitas in the region gravitas they should go clean it up so i think some signals gone out and bb's not a part of this uh and in fact bb has sunk so low he went on
Starting point is 00:10:41 mark levin show on fox go ahead go ahead say it the great one and said the following we're destroying their infrastructure their command posts their rockets their underground tunnels and we're going to win because we have to win this is a battle of the forces of civilization against the forces of barbarism and if barbarism wins in our part of the world, Europe will be next, and America will be next. Because the axis of terror of Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and their other minions
Starting point is 00:11:14 will imperil the Middle East. Wait a minute, the Houthis and the other minions? Are the minions now part of the axis of terror? And their other minions will imperil the Middle East and then spread their barbarismil the middle east and then spread their barbarism to the entire world israel is fighting our war but it's also fighting america's war it's fighting your war and our victory will be your victory yeah let's draw
Starting point is 00:11:35 the line there bb let's draw the line there you're not fighting our war, for him to go on Levin to say that, I think he's lost all gravitas in the region. Was it Levin Radio or the TV show? Fox. Fox. Fox, which is a weekend show. Levin has two shows on the weekend. I don't think a lot of people watch that. No, nobody watches weekend Fox.
Starting point is 00:12:00 No, nobody's watching Fox at all. So something is changing here and you know and and this is pretty desperate of him to say this and they saved the hooties and their minions come on the hooties are gonna now attack us i find it sketchy sketchy and then course, we need to up the propaganda everywhere. TRT, Turkish radio television, love those guys. They've got a new one. The Israeli army is being accused of organ theft in Palestine's Gaza.
Starting point is 00:12:36 A report by the Urimed Human Rights Monitor expressed concern over allegations that the Israeli army confiscated dozens of dead bodies from Al-Shifa and the Indonesian hospital in northern Gaza, as well as from the safe corridor Israel had implemented and subsequently targeted. The report suggests that the Israeli army took Palestinian bodies from a masquerade in one of Al-Shifa's courtyards, a claim backed by the director general of the health ministry in Gaza, Munir Elboush. Uramin monitors that suspicions of organ theft were based on evidence cited by medical professionals in al-shifa this included claims of missing cochleas and corneas as well as other vital organs you can't i know happened a little bit about uh ear and eyes you can't take someone from who's been under the ground or
Starting point is 00:13:23 even good story. More than a few hours old, you've got to immediately grab that stuff. Yeah, it has to be brand new. But no. Livers, kidneys, and hearts. And livers and kidneys and hearts and toenails. Doctors also said that the claims cannot be proven or disproven solely by forensic medical examination. As many of the patients underwent surgery before their death
Starting point is 00:13:45 allegations that the israeli army stole corpses during a siege of the medical complex have been reported by several other outlets however this is not the first time israel has been accused of organ theft yeah it's beautiful so to counter that now the view because we've got to counter the narrative this we've got to confuse everybody. And we'll get to him in a moment. Obviously, we've sent Elon out to distract from everything. Elon, the Jew hater. But the view steps it up a little bit, gives a little gravitas in the region to the Israelis. I am still devastated.
Starting point is 00:14:19 We're two months since this war has been underway by the silence from women's group in this country about the rape being used as an act of war in this attack the fact that sexual violence was used against israeli women in the major women's groups in this country have not come out and denounced it this weekend cheryl sandberg put out a gripping video calling for it that violates every rule of warfare it is the height of immorality and the fact that the United Nations and entity for gender equality and women empowerment has been silent. The UN Committee on Elimination of Discrimination Against Women has been silent in the international Me Too movement. Oh, it's no good. It's just no good. It's no good. Everybody's all all trying to move it away from. Yeah, I could have gotten a Sheryl Sandberg clip. She goes on and on.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I would have enjoyed that. Oh, yeah. There's two things I don't have, which I should have gotten. One I did have. I don't know why I didn't post it, but is the Oakland City Council going nuts? Oh. Because they were going to... I don't know
Starting point is 00:15:20 why the city councils do this, but they were going to pass an anti-Hamas resolution. We hate Hamas. like they're in Oakland. Just to make sure. Every idiot in the Bay Area comes to the city council meeting wearing the scarf, the Palestinian scarf, and screaming at the city council saying, you can't do this. This whole thing is a scam
Starting point is 00:15:46 and the IDF shot those Israelis. The IDF and they blamed the whole thing as a giant conspiracy that we're being suckered into. And one person after another and all wearing masks. Of course, of course. Kifaya and masks.
Starting point is 00:16:02 That's perfect. Yeah. Perfect. So it's kind of masks. That's perfect. Yeah. Perfect. So it's kind of nuts. It's very funny, though. So then, and I'm really, I really have to, j'accuse Elon. I really think that this was so well-timed by him to go to Israel, trounce around, you know, I'm so sorry. I made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And, I mean, he's just been fantastic clips of elon we just have to play some of this because well first of all it solidifies my prediction he will ruin twitter that's for sure it won't be the same um but first an abc report that kind of summarizes it all this morning elon Elon Musk is apologizing for endorsing an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory on his social media platform X. It might be literally the worst and dumbest post that I've ever done. Speaking to the New York Times, the world's richest man had a message for the companies who pulled ads from his platform, telling them don't advertise and using an expletive
Starting point is 00:17:06 multiple times to emphasize his point you don't want them to advertise no what do you mean if somebody's gonna try to blackmail me with advertising blackmail me with money musk has faced mounting criticism after he agreed with a user on x who falsely claimed jewish people are stoking hatred against white people. Musk saying the user was saying the actual truth amid the fallout. Musk visited Israel. That is, by the way, is a complete mischaracterization of what happened. But I guess Musk is all in on it now. We covered it very extensively, I think, three shows ago. A mischaracterization of what the tweet was was about or what he said but that is irrelevant because musk is because that day the truth is that it will it's the truth is in
Starting point is 00:17:51 the eye of the beholder yeah exactly the actual truth amid the fallout musk visited israel touring a village where dozens of people were killed on october 7th the trip to israel is independent of of it wasn't something like uh apology tour the controversy could reportedly no joe told me to go we're gonna stop the genocide joe stuff it wasn't apology tour cost x up to 75 million dollars in lost ad revenue by the end did she say 75 million should be 75 billion shouldn't it be? $75 million, that's nothing. It's a jump change. It is. $75 million in lost ad revenue by the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Actually, what this advertising boycott is going to do, it's going to kill the company. They're going to say, Elon, that you killed the company because you said these things and that they were inappropriate things and that they didn't feel comfortable on the platform, right? That's what they're going to say. And let's see how Earth responds to that. It comes as Musk launches the long awaited Tesla Cybertruck today. Oh, my God. Well, four years after a prototype was unveiled, its distinct look drawing mixed reactions. It's so-called armored glass proving to be anything but.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, man. Many experts say the polarizing vehicle... I know. They went straight into this. They're taking him down. That's a chicken shit situation. No, it's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:19:18 This is hilarious. He doesn't care. It's hilarious. Oh, man. Many experts say the polarizing vehicle could be another dent in the company's bottom line electric vehicle sales have stalled in the u.s and consumer reports found evs have 79 more reliability problems than gas cars this will help so we'll get to that because that's funny by itself so So not only is, I think, the entire war being blamed on Elon, but also the decline of EVs is being blamed on him. Everything is his fault.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Everything is Elon's fault. this interview that he did at the New York Times Dealbook Summit, you know, gleefully covered by CNBC because everyone, especially the CNBC people, Andrew Ross Sorkin is now analyzing Elon. And I'm just going to stick by my prediction. Like he doesn't care about advertisers. He wants everybody to stay engaged, stay on the platform until he turns it into a bank that's that's right i agree with that that's what he's doing um so here's how that rolled out with andrew ross sorkin on stage um with a little less bleeping than abc did what was that trip like and obviously and by the way did you see the flak jacket he had on walking around it was like a baby flak jacket it only covered his
Starting point is 00:20:46 chest his uh to his midriff i mean his whole stomach and and groin was exposed it was like you might as well not have one yeah you think you want to have something a little more like even a catcher's thing yeah yeah that's that's what you want but no no he had just like a little little breastplate very odd what was that trip like? And obviously, you know that there's a public perception that, and you're clarifying this now, but there's a public perception that that was part of a apology tour, if you will. That this had been said online. There was all of the criticism.
Starting point is 00:21:21 There was advertisers leaving. We talked to Bob Iger today. I hope they stop. You hope? Don't advertise. you don't want them to advertise? no what do you mean? if somebody's going to try to blackmail me with advertising blackmail me with money
Starting point is 00:21:36 go f*** yourself go f*** yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey, Bob. If you're in the audience. Well, let me ask you then... That's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Don't advertise. Actually, what this advertising boycott is going to do, it's going to kill the company. And do you think that that's... And the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company. And we will document it in great detail. Hold on, before we continue with this clip. So he's saying the whole world will know that they killed the company.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I mean, the first thing that came to my mind is perfect. Declare bankruptcy. He buys it out of bankruptcy, turns it into a bank. Is that within the realm of possibility? No, I don't think it's going to go that far. I don't think so either. I think this is just an idle threat because nothing's going to, everyone knows that the military industrial complex and the intelligence agencies and specifically use the platform. They need Twitter.
Starting point is 00:22:47 They need, they need, they need Twitter and it's not going to get killed, but it's like, it's a, it's kind of a roundabout threat to the, to Disney and others that, Hey,
Starting point is 00:22:58 if you kill the company, somebody is going to kill you. Yeah. I think that's a good analysis. Yeah. An offhanded way, yeah. So then he goes on. But those advertisers, I imagine,
Starting point is 00:23:09 are going to say, we didn't kill the company. Oh, yeah? Tell it to Earth. They're going to say... I love the grandioseness of it. Tell it to Earth, man. I'm going to use that.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Hey, man. Talk to Earth. I think kids should use that. You took the cookies from the cookie jar. Oh, yeah? Tell it to Earth. That you killed the company because you said these things and that they were inappropriate things and that they didn't feel comfortable on the platform, right? That's what they're going to say.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And let's see how Earth responds to that. Okay. Then this goes back to a minute. I love Andrew Ross Sorkin. Who's taking this all seriously? The guy has zero sense of humor. Zero. Classic New York Times guy.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Oh, yeah. Yeah. All right. Okay, then this goes back to... We'll both make our cases. Right. And we'll see what the outcome is. What are the economics of that for you?
Starting point is 00:24:05 I mean, you have enormous resources, so you can actually keep this company going for a very long time. Would you keep it going for a long time if there was no advertising? I mean, if the company fails because of an advertised boycott, it will fail because of an advertised boycott. And that will be what bankrupts the company, and that's what everybody on earth will know. What do you think, then, of the idea of trust, though? It'll be gone. And it'll be gone because of an advertisement we cut. But you recognize that...
Starting point is 00:24:33 Wow, I think you're right. He is really signaling like, oh, really? Really, you guys want to kill this valuable asset, valuable to my true customers, the military-industrial complex and the U.S. government? Really? Really? Watch you guys get a little call from the White House. I think that's what he's saying. I think you're right about that. But you recognize that some of those people are going to say that they didn't feel comfortable on the platform. And I just wonder and ask you and think about that for a second. Tell it to the judge. But the judge is going to be...
Starting point is 00:25:04 The judge is the public. The judge is the public. The judge is the public. Ah, it's beautiful. This is hilarious. So then I'm going to... Let me see. Then I have to play these other two clips before I can get to the best part,
Starting point is 00:25:19 which is Andrew Ross Sorkin doing an analysis later of Elon. So now it gets into AI which of course you know you might as well put that in there and eli go elon goes off the rails with this is great one of the things about training on data has been this idea that you're not going to train or these things are not being trained on people's copyrighted information historically that's been the concept yeah that's a huge lie. Say that again? These AI's are all trained on copyrighted data, obviously. So you think it's a lie when OpenAI says that this is not, none of these guys say they're
Starting point is 00:25:55 training on copyrighted data. That's a lie. It's a lie. Straight up. Straight up lie. Okay. 100%. Obviously, it's been trained on copyrighted data. Okay okay so let me ask you a second question
Starting point is 00:26:07 which is he does the best evil guy laugh I've ever heard this is phenomenally good and Ross Sorkin doesn't even say anything about it obviously it's been trained on data okay so let me ask you
Starting point is 00:26:23 a second question which is all all of the people who... And he keeps going, though. He needs a cat in his lap. A white one. Second question, which is all of the people who have been uploading... It's like a one-hour minute here. All of the people who have been uploading articles, the best quotes from different articles, videos, 2X. All of that can be trained on.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And effectively, now you have this remarkable repository. And I wonder how you think about that, again, and how you think the creative community and those who were the original IP owners should think about that. I don't know, except to say that by the time these lawsuits are decided, we'll have digital God. Yeah, there you go. We'll have a digital God. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I should have digital God at that point. Digital God. You know, I interrupt here. Sure thing. There's an argument that can be made when you have that thrown at you that I'm surprised Musk and others haven't used. It's the following. Okay, so I'm a writer. And I want to write my first novel.
Starting point is 00:27:33 So I read all of Hemingway. I read everything he's ever written, every news article. I read all his novels because I want to get that style. I want to have Hemingway. I want to have that kind of natty style. I want it. So I read all this stuff. and then I produce a novel. What's the difference? It doesn't matter because by the time the lawsuits that, oh, it's all these copyright.
Starting point is 00:28:11 Yes, everything in the world, you know, what if you just run it off of Shakespeare? It's not copyright, it's public domain now. What if you just use public domain once copyrighted material? This is bullcrap. This is not the good argument against AI. The good argument is it's bullcrap. It doesn't work very well. That's the argument. Well, I actually cut out like a minute of Andrew Ross Sorkin pining on about, as a creator, as a creator, I'm a creator.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Heaven forbid anyone steal his material. Yeah, because it's so dynamite. I don't know, except to say that by the time these lawsuits are decided, we'll have digital God. So I asked digital God at that point. That's a flippant answer oh it's very flippant and it's pretty wrong um these lawsuits won't be decided before in a time frame that is relevant okay not before time frame is relevant and then now now elon is gonna ram it
Starting point is 00:29:00 home because remember he's the guy that started open ai and was you know shouting the loudest the loudest about the dangers of ai eating the world and you know sam altman screwed him over and they turned to commercial and elon has kept saying no no no no no no regulation we need regulation one of the smartest people in the world no no no no no no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And he's changed his tune. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I think we live, you know, there's that. I, you know, I got to practice my, my, my, you know, I got to get a whole, my, my mashups. I'm sorry. I said, I get it. I've got to get some of these Elon moments so I can get a hold of my mashups. I'm sorry?
Starting point is 00:29:52 I've got to get some of these Elon moments so I can do another one of my mashups where it's just Elon never saying anything. He actually never does say anything. It's just the complicated speak of Silicon Valley geniuses. Like Sam Bankman-Fried. Sam Albin, Elon Musk. Give me a break, people. We live, you know, there's that, I don't know if it's actually a real Chinese saying or not, but may you live an interesting time. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Which is apparently not a good thing. I would prefer to. Not a good thing. And he's looking up the whole time at his digital god, I guess. Not a good thing. I would prefer to live personally. I would prefer to live in interesting times. And we live in the most interesting of times. Copyrighted! Yeah, you're breaking copyright.
Starting point is 00:30:46 For a while there, I was really getting demotivated and losing sleep over the threat of AI danger. And then I finally became fatalistic about it and said, well, even if I knew annihilation was certain, would I choose to be alive at that time or not? And I said I probably would choose to be alive at that time because it's the most interesting thing, even if there's nothing I can do about it. an executive order, which is not law, but there's laws being written all over the world to make sure that only the biggest incumbents can be the true gods of AI, which really means...
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah, there's too much money to be made for just any old schlop to go out there and do well. Which really means only Google and Amazon and other big companies will be allowed to create your LLMs, your data models. And they're all selling horsepower. That's all they're doing. They're all selling compute cycles.
Starting point is 00:31:54 So all of that's now over. And now I've given in. I was losing sleep. And I figured, you know what? Screw the world! So then, you know, then basically sort of a fatalistic resignation helped me sleep at night because I was having trouble sleeping at night because of AI danger. Okay, so Elon has
Starting point is 00:32:11 decided that the world can go to hell in a handbasket so that he can sleep at night. That's bullshit. By the way, the whole thing, he's fooling, this is a lie. Of course it's a lie. There's no way he wasn't sleeping well at night. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:28 No. Wait until we get to the analysis. Fifteen more seconds on this one. Helped me sleep at night because I was having trouble sleeping at night because of AI danger. Oh, shit. Now, what to do about it? I mean, I've been the biggest, the one banging the drum the hardest, by far the longest, or at least one of the longest for AI danger. And these regulatory things that are happening.
Starting point is 00:32:54 We're back in the 80s. No, wait, wait. This is the last bit. Okay, I'm sorry. That's okay. And these regulatory things that are happening, the single biggest reason they're happening is because of me. Ah, it all because of me me i put it all in place i believe that because those numb nuts in washington dc like oh elon sask yeah danger yeah danger we got to make him sleep well at night
Starting point is 00:33:18 let's put some executive orders in place so then andrew ross sorkin the most boring guy in the world goes on nbc today show to um talk about his this is so extraordinary because elon you know must use the f word oh no oh yes you we had to bleep it out it's so bad for children and but you know andrew ross sorkin i mean he this is you are now news. Journalist is the news. Let's bring in the man of the hour. CNBC's Andrew Ross Sorkin, who led that conversation with Elon Musk. He's the man of the hour. Journalist talking to journalist.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Always the best. The man of the hour. Musk at the New York Times Dealbook Summit. Hello, Andrew. So, I mean, what did you make of that? You've covered Elon Musk a long time. Here he is in the middle of this fire. Advertisers fleeing his company, X, formerly known as Twitter.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Thanks for reminding us. And then he does not mince words, shall we say. You know, I think it was fascinating. I was speechless when he made those remarks. No, you weren't. I do encourage people to see the whole thing because in many ways, I think you got to see the full Elon Musk. I think you saw that Elon Musk
Starting point is 00:34:22 is many people. You can see the Einstein and Steve Jobs version of Elon Musk. I think you saw that Elon Musk is many people. You can see the Einstein and sort of Steve Jobs version of Elon Musk. You can see almost a demonic version of Elon Musk. And the idea is, the question is, can people hold all of these ideas in their head and can they be in the same person? What was so interesting to me was he kept saying, I don't care if I am loved or I'm hated. But what I kept trying to get back to was he didn't say that. He didn't say that at all. I watched the whole thing. He didn't say that. He said, I don't care if you advertise. But what I kept trying to get back to was,
Starting point is 00:34:54 do you care about being trusted? Because ultimately, the advertisers need to trust you. The folks who are going to get in your vehicles need to trust you. The government that's paying for SpaceX, putting these rockets need to trust you. And we were trying to get in your vehicles. We need to trust you. The government that's paying for SpaceX, putting these rockets in, we need to trust you. And we were trying to grapple with that. And he was trying to grapple with that. He was trying to grapple with that? I didn't hear that in any of the clips you played or what I heard when I listened to parts of it. But it's also, you would say he was grappling with that.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Not he was trying to grapple with it. That's just... Oh, did he say he was grappling with that, not he was trying to grapple with it. Oh, did he say he was trying? Yeah, listen. Yeah, listen twice. He said it twice. Listen to that. He's trying to grapple with it. Yeah, listen.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Putting these rockets in. Need to trust you. And we were trying to grapple with that, and he was trying to grapple with that. Trying to grapple with that? What does the word grapple even mean grapple grapple let's look it up let's read from the is the question on our minds yes why was he trying to grapple or was he grappling well if he was trying to grapple he was trying to grip or seize as in a wrestling
Starting point is 00:36:03 match or he was using a tool consisting of several hooks for grasping and holding often thrown with a rope i don't think was either one of those so let's continue with the next the genius analysis from andrew ross sorkin we talked about demonic the demonic side he talked about his demonic demonic what happened to the digital god we talked about demonic the demonic side he talked about his own demons like what did you glean about that part of him oh get ready he talked about his demons look i think a lot of what drives him um in very good ways and bad ways is a childhood i mean there was a moment where he was almost crying during this interview where you could really see the demons that power a lot of this.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And it's sad. There is a depression under it. Oh, okay. I don't want to... Analyze him, yes. Oh, my God. Was he a psychoanalyst now? Yes, he is.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I don't want to say too much about and I can't diagnose him myself, but there is something that is driving him and I think in many ways it's productive and in other ways it's less productive. Well done, Andrew. That was riveting, that analysis. He was almost crying on my bench. I'm Andrew Roth talking.
Starting point is 00:37:19 We're talking about the world's richest man. $225 billion and his contributions to modern society are undeniable in so many ways. To your point, you've covered him for a long time. How do you think it plays out? I mean, how does this where does this go for from here for Elon Musk? I mean, does he tank X? Does it get sold?
Starting point is 00:37:37 Is that how do you know? He likes to say he doesn't care. He was ready to. He cares. He cares a lot. You can see it. You can physically see how much he cares. So he says he doesn't care. But he does lot. You can see it. You can physically see how much he cares. He says he doesn't care, but he does care. I can see it. I'm Andrew Ross Sorkin.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I think, look. I think you're going to see. I think, look. Wait. I think, look. I think, look. This is good. I think, look. Is that a show title? I think, look. I think, look. What? I think it be Harris. He cares a lot. You can see it. You can physically see how much he cares. So I think, look, I think you're going to see great and amazing things happen along the way.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Well, hold on a second. The future teller, he's from Andrew. I'm from the future. I'm Andrew Ross Sorkin. Great things are coming, I tell you. Just pay attention to me, Andrew Ross Sorkin. I think you're going to see great and amazing things happen along the way. And I also imagine you're going to see other things like, and maybe X will ultimately fail. I don't know, but I think he's going to try his heart to get this thing to work. In a way, it's the least of it. I mean, he has his hands.
Starting point is 00:38:42 You know what I mean? X either succeeds or doesn't succeed. You're talking about somebody who has an enormous influence in global affairs, including things such as the war in Ukraine because it's his satellite system he can turn on or turn off. And that's how sectors on the ground...
Starting point is 00:38:56 This is my favorite. They keep doing that even though he sold that into the military version, which stays on wherever the U.s military wants it on please are able to fight and we talked about but we talked about that the power that he has and the leverage that he has it's interesting because he he has all that leverage in these physical systems that he owns but he doesn't have that leverage in in in twitter in x it's a different it's a different business but the other thing i
Starting point is 00:39:26 was just going to say that was so interesting to me about it was it was human um you know there's those little that page in us magazine says they're just like us no matter how much money you have what your business title on your business card there are these feelings that people have and they're complicated and i think being able to that, we often don't have that opportunity. So it was interesting. So I'm the best. This, if you want to see feelings, watch me.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'm Andrew Ross Sorkin. What a douchebag. Eh. But it was very entertaining. Just, I mean, that's the best kind of entertainment is when the people on stage don't realize how entertaining they are. And this whole Starlink thing, that seems to probably have been the main reason for Elon to go into Israel for another sale.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Now, Elon Musk also controls Starlink, which is an Internet satellite service, which makes him a key player in any conflict on this earth. He wanted to provide the service to aid organizations in Gaza. The Israeli government wasn't happy saying that Hamas would use it for terrorist activities. Today, an Israeli government minister posted that they had reached an understanding that Starlink would only be used in Israel and Gaza with the approval of the Israeli government. We have not yet confirmed that. There you go. Sales call. That's what it was. You're right. Good call. Good catch. approval of the israeli government we have not yet confirmed that there you go sales call that's what it was you're right sales call sales call hello hey you know these my i have a customer
Starting point is 00:40:53 over here in gaza and uh they got a lot of money in qatar so um you want a defense link what is it isn't it called defense link what is it called starlink military version um it's something else not defense link it's um star shield yeah star shield star shield that's what it's called star shield it's a sale he's not going there on an apology to his going he would go on a sales call exactly right it's a kind of a shaggy dog story you told but you're welcome you're welcome basically what you did there well done oh thank you no thank you since we're talking about the jews israelis the rest let's at least get a couple of my clips out of the way. I didn't do too much about that. I do have the update for the
Starting point is 00:41:47 hostage thing. Whatever the hell's going on, it might be worth playing. But first, let's play Chuck Schumer. Oh, Chucky. Chucky. What is Chuck? He's talking about, you know, he's concerned about all the Jew hate that's going on in the United States because of the Palestinian
Starting point is 00:42:03 protesters, which are organized by some radicals all the Jew hate that's going on in the United States because of the Palestinian, uh, it's a problem, uh, protesters, which are organized by some radicals of various sorts left and right. It's a problem. And now, which is again, in previously,
Starting point is 00:42:16 I would say Chuck Schumer would be responsible for the encouragement of these folks, but now that they've turned out to be Jew haters, man, this is no good. A five5 alarm fire that must be extinguished senate majority leader chuck schumer warning the nation of a dangerous rise in anti-semitism this is lawmakers are now investigating possible anti-semitism at america's top universities i love how they keep going after the universities. It's your Black Lives Matter crew, bro. It's who you activated during Trump. That's who it is. NTD's Arian Postarm has the story. I feel compelled to speak because I'm the highest ranking Jewish elected official
Starting point is 00:42:57 in America. King of the Jews. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on Wednesday addressing the rise in anti-Semitism in the U.S. I couldn't resist. I'm sorry. Does that know what he said? It's literally what he said. Not literally, but that's what he's saying. In the two weeks after the attacks by Hamas, the Anti-Defamation League reports an almost 400% increase in anti-Semitic incidents over the same period last year.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Schumer says he sees a stark contrast in the ways Jewish and non-Jewish people react to that increase. To us, the Jewish people, the rise of anti-Semitism is a crisis, a five-alarm fire that must be extinguished. Five-alarmer? He says that's because many American Jews have family members who suffered persecution first hand. And they're now worried that history is repeating itself. The majority leader also said anti-Israel protesters often argue that Israel displaced 700,000 Palestinians.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But he said those same people never talk about the 600,000 Jews who were displaced from Arab countries. Schumer concluded with three appeals to the American people. Learn the history of the Jewish people, reject anti-Semitic double standards, and understand why Jews defend Israel. At the same time, lawmakers in the House are investigating Harvard, the MIT, and the University of Pennsylvania that's over allegations of anti-Semitism on their campuses. Because of that, the presidents of those three schools will testify before a House committee at a congressional hearing next week.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Oh, goody, goody. Yeah, we get Jew hate in Congress. This is going to be fun. It's going to be great. So Harvard and MIT now, too. Oh, man. Oh, wow. We'll play the second half of this clip, and I've got Harvard and MIT now, too. Oh, man. This is, oh, wow. Oh, this is show gold.
Starting point is 00:44:51 We'll play the second half of this clip, and I got one more, which is the University of California they're going after. At the same time, the Department of Education is opening an investigation into Harvard. That's to find out whether Harvard failed to respond to alleged harassment of students based on their national origin. However, the office made clear that it has so far found no evidence of wrongdoing yeah and remember the department of education is also a human rights division of the government yeah they're human rights quite hilarious i don't know what these schools are going to do because they were the ones they're the ones who created the situation at the behest of the Democrat Party. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Let's be honest about it. And the whole thing is now backfired on them. It's like it is. It's biblical. It's so good. It's hilarious. But let's play UC Berkeley sued. This is the end of the day. There was a lead into this, but let's go right into the clip.
Starting point is 00:45:43 UC Berkeley and the UC system are accused of letting anti-Semitism go unchecked. Jewish advocacy organizations allege that student groups prohibit speakers who support a Jewish state. NTD's David Lam speaks with the attorney who's suing the university. Ken Marcus, chairman of the Louis D. Brandeis Center and former assistant secretary of education for civil rights. Thank you for joining us. Your nonprofit organization is suing UC Berkeley and the UC system, claiming that it has longstanding unchecked anti-Semitism on campus. So how did this start? We take no pleasure in bringing the lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:46:21 We would prefer that they simply comply with their legal requirements. This lawsuit is about the failure of the University of California to address anti-Semitism on its campus, certainly over the last year and a half. Hold on a second. I need to ask a question. This being the United States of America, where we have a First Amendment, is anti-Semitism, is that illegal in america the anti-semitic speech i don't as in so far as speech is concerned that it may not be illegal based on the first amendment but that's but these schools are signed on to certain standards that they have to follow, and one of them is to not be bigoted. Not be against Joe.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Not be bigoted, but the thing that DeKalb, they keep isolating in these statements, is that there's a Zionist, one or two Zionist organizations on the campus organizations on the campus they want to have meetings and give speeches they won't let them and so that is like i think it's okay that's exclusionary and that and that exclusionary and that goes yeah okay all right i that i got you okay but as just a small aside when it was um small aside when it was um milo when it was ben shapiro or whoever wanted to go speak at a at a university campus and they were forbidden to do that we didn't hear these guys part of this i by the way i think this guy when he says a long-standing history i think that will be included oh interesting because the milo and and shapiro, and I think there was a couple other people. Coulter, Coulter.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I think she tried to speak there too. And they were, they shot her out of the campus and burned down part of the ASUC building. And in the process, I think it's mostly outsiders, but it's beside the point. They have this issue and they have to solve it. And so they're getting sued. beside the point they have this issue and they have to solve it and so they're getting sued certainly over the last a year and a half starting with the decision by nine nine student organizations to exclude zionists from speaking on any topic whatsoever before their organization and i understand that you receive many complaints from students so what are the students saying
Starting point is 00:48:44 we're hearing from students around the country are the students saying? We're hearing from students around the country. Jewish students are afraid now because they are feeling such an immense amount of hate since the Hamas atrocities of October 7. Now think about that. In the wake of these atrocities in which Jewish Israelis were tortured, burned alive in some cases, raped, murdered their courses. In the wake of that, a groundswell of support for the perpetrators. The Berkeley situation is in one sense typical or representative of what we're hearing all around the country, but it is also one of the worst. of the worst we're number one foam finger number one baby yeah this kind of reminds me this this whole first amendment bit uh i went with a friend of mine
Starting point is 00:49:35 went to visit the pacific war museum he's been here for eight years has never been i said that's an outrage you got to go it's a great museum because admiral nimitz is from fredericksburg texas and they have a great i mean it's a very detailed nimitz was from fredericksburg yeah he's a famous son he's the famous son of fredericksburg wow so they have the nimitz museum the pacific war museum and you know my grandfather uh renwick eugene Curry was Lieutenant Commander and Base Commander at Kwajalein in the Marshall Islands. Um, so it was, it was,
Starting point is 00:50:08 and they have a whole, the Marshall Islands, there's so much we don't, you know, when you think about World War II, all you think is Hitler, Jews, Hiroshima,
Starting point is 00:50:15 boom, that's it. There was a lot more going on. A lot more. And something that really, and they did a good job of this at the exhibit. There was a term that I think it was President Roosevelt. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:50:28 I think it was Roosevelt. And it was loose lips sink ships. Yeah, loose lips sink ships. There's a lot of posters you can get that have that saying on them. Well, there were restrictions on speech at that time. There were absolute restrictions placed by the government on speech at that time you were there were absolute restrictions placed by the government on speech and it's just it kind of hit me like how easy we are you know especially when you see rosie the riveter you know and all this all this incredible uh you know nationalistic um
Starting point is 00:51:01 patriot patriotic propaganda, how easily people give up their right to free speech. And this is bound to happen over and over and over again. And also I have to say, what a senseless bunch of crap that whole thing was. Young men killing each other in the water and in the air. Oh my God. The whole thing just...
Starting point is 00:51:25 Did you... I mean, this bombing of Tokyo? No one ever talks about that. They bombed the crap out of Tokyo. Hundreds of thousands of civilians died. They just kept bombing for months. Anyway. Yeah, and the thought was, of course,
Starting point is 00:51:39 a few incendiary bombs are good because Tokyo's built on... The housing in Tokyo stillo was you know it still is yeah paper and rice paper rice paper and light wood yeah that museum will give you a little different sense of what went on there anyway my point being that we as americans are so susceptible to agreeing to restrictions by the government on our speech, which is just illegal and wrong. And that's not what we're built on. You have the right to talk like a Nazi in America. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:52:15 You know, that's you got that right. If that's what you want. The ACLU used to defend that. That's all over now. Those days are over. And it's really the best way because then you can just stand there and laugh at them. It's great. But no.
Starting point is 00:52:31 I have a, I don't think I have anything else other than it's just all bad for Joe. And so we're distracting. We've got a lot of, you know, we're changing the narrative to, oh, no, no. It's all these students. But it's not just students it's this antifa there's all kinds of rainbow people in there and they're all just against whatever they're supposed to be against not a single word about the hundred thousand who die of opioids not nothing about the Uyghurs nothing about anything that's happening in Africa how about
Starting point is 00:53:04 in fact I do have one Africa clip we can play. Why is anyone saying anything about this? This isn't even being played. Because it's not the new, new thing. The UN says 450,000 people have been displaced in Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo in the last six weeks. It's blaming recent violence between armed groups and government forces in North Kiev province.
Starting point is 00:53:24 The UN Refugee Agency says it's monitoring the situation after 3,000 human rights violations were reported last month. That's nearly double the figure from September. No one cares. No one cares. They're not the same level people. Even our producers, listeners don't like talking about Africa. They tune out.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Oh, another Africa clip. I made that clip as short as I could. Good work. Everyone's still here? Okay. Oh, we can't talk about Africa. That would be no good. Now, I came across a 26-minute video of the homeless in Austin.
Starting point is 00:54:02 It's heartbreaking. It's just heartbreaking. Downtown, right near the hotels. Everyone's part of living it up. Woo! And there's just thousands of homeless people. And just like San Francisco, I'll just step over them.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Don't worry. We're with Google. We moved ours. No, you guys did a good job. Yeah, we moved them to L.A. where they belong. I want to go back to AI for just a second because there was something else that popped up on CTN. That's Canadian television. So whatever Elon is doing, thank know, thank you, Elon.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Thank you. The AI danger has been set in motion, the regulations, because of you. And we appreciate that. But Jen Easterly is our representative from CISA, the Cyber Infrastructure Security Administration, who are also, or I i should say are very involved with protecting our elections because why do it on paper and so she shows up heaven forbid someone actually put a check mark on paper and then you could we can't have that actually audit it but
Starting point is 00:55:19 we can't even audit the pentagon let alone audit our own elections please stop so so she shows up and and her whole job here is to talk about i guess she's doing the rounds and no one cares about her because elon's out there and she's this is i'm starting to not like her a lot but she's also full of crap it's really good to meet you i start with you. I thought maybe it would be helpful for the audience before we get into the solutions proposed, if each of you could reflect on the threat as you see posed by AI. Miss Easterly, I'll start with you. I think we have to understand that AI is a form of information technology. And the short history of information technology is, frankly, insecurity.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And so you think back to the internet it was never created to be secure i love it think back think back john to the creation of the internet it was never created to be secure so ultimately it's all been about speed to market and features and driving down costs for competition. And really where it's led us is an Internet that's full of malware, software that's full of vulnerabilities, social media. The Internet has resulted in software that's full of vulnerabilities? This is great. Full of vulnerabilities.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Social media that's full of misinformation and disinformation. And now this next generation of AI, we have to make sure that it does not have the vulnerabilities that frankly have led to ransomware attacks across all critical infrastructure and businesses large and small. Wait a minute. So crappy AI has led to ransomware attacks?
Starting point is 00:57:02 That's what she just said. Did she? I didn't hear her say that here i'll tell you the problem whoever she is she's she's patters rap rap rapid fires or remarks and i i kind of zone out i i didn't i missed it i must have been hypnotized stay with it vulnerabilities that frankly have led to yeah yeah i'll roll back a little further we have to make sure that it does not have the vulnerabilities that frankly have led to ransomware attacks across all critical infrastructure and businesses large and small and she didn't say that she said that just the internet the internet itself is no what she
Starting point is 00:57:42 said was vulnerabilities like the kind of the internet that led to this yes it will happen with ai because we're not checking it for vulnerability that's right and trillions of dollars uh lost to global cyber crime so the stakes are very high when you think about the power and the speed and the unpredictability of these tools and so it really is significant the governments came together, 18 governments, 23 agencies, along with 20 companies of industry that provided substantive feedback to lay out these guidelines and guardrails. Guardrails. Now, if we don't take care of this, what will the future be like, Jen? Last question to you. I think so much of this sounds very technical, I think even to myself. I'm wondering if you can impart on... Hold on.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Yes, I'm holding on. I heard absolutely nothing that seemed, quote unquote, very technical. Last question to you. I think so much of this sounds very uh technical i think even to myself i'm wondering if you can impart on canadians watching tonight what a scenario you're trying to stop looks like like what what is it in tangible layman's terms that you're trying to prevent from happening yeah so you have to think of ai as just a form of software. And we know that software was never created to be safe and secure. Is that true, John C. Dvorak, long-term columnist and reporter on technology? Not that I know of. It's why...
Starting point is 00:59:16 It's actually, they try to sell it as very secure. Heaven forbid they're selling as junk that it is. ...of software. And we know that software was never created to be safe and secure. We all know. It's always created to be safe and secure. No, we all know it was never created to be safe and secure. It's always created.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Who is this woman? She couldn't probably code in a go-to loop. I have a clue. She's friends with Kara Swisher. I'm of software. And we know that software was never created to be safe and secure. It's why we have ransomware attacks. It's why we have data theft.
Starting point is 00:59:58 No, Windows is why we have ransomware attacks. Windows, specifically Microsoft. It's why we have disruptions on things like pipelines. It's why our energy grids are vulnerable. What? Yes, that's why we have, yes, it's because of Windows. Who is this again? You've got to back up all the way.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Not the clip, but... Who is this person? Jen Easterly. Well, I'm going to look her up for you. Who's someone you hate? Well, I... You said you've learned to hate. Yeah, I'm learning not to love her that much. It's a very hateful podcast we're doing here. Jen Easterly, let me give you the, from the wiki, is an American intelligence and former military official who was serving as the director of cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency in the biden administration
Starting point is 01:00:45 raised in potomac maryland spook uh went to the united states military academy pembroke college oxford road scholar oh yeah says enough globalist and yeah she's a globalist spook. I'm just full of it. She probably never cut it as a spook, it seems to me. She doesn't got the chops. But she's in charge of guardrails and in charge of the elections. Guardrails. Okay, well, let her be in charge. That means nothing will happen. Data theft.
Starting point is 01:01:18 It's why we have disruptions on things like pipelines. It's why our energy grids are vulnerable. disruptions on things like pipelines. It's why our energy grids are vulnerable. So you can think about AI as the most powerful technology of, frankly, that we've ever seen being used by nefarious actors to use them for offensive cyber purposes, to destroy our critical infrastructure, our water systems, our energy systems, our financial systems. You can think about using them to create biological weapons, chemical weapons. So we really need to ensure that governments and industry are working together to mitigate the risk of these capabilities being used for nefarious purposes.
Starting point is 01:02:01 So she specifically mentions water systems. So she specifically mentions water systems. So I presume that this report will tell us that it is AI that is doing this. We begin with security concerns here at home stemming from the war in the Middle East. A computer hacking group with ties to Iran has reportedly targeted a water supply system in Pennsylvania. And the group claims this is just the beginning. Just the beginning. They're using AI. This morning, a cyber group backed by Iran is taking credit for breaching a water treatment
Starting point is 01:02:31 plant in Pennsylvania. Their ability to infiltrate into industrial control systems and possibly disrupt or worse, cause damage to our infrastructure is very, very concerning. According to the Beaver County newspaper, the Municipal Water Authority in Aliquippa says hackers partially took control of a substation Saturday, shutting down a pump that supplies drinking water in Beaver County. A message appeared on a pump reading, You have been hacked. Every equipment made in Israel is Cyber Avengers legal target.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Water pressure in some areas was reportedly affected before workers enabled a backup system. The Cyber Avengers hacking group is also accused of targeting 10 water treatment plants in Israel since the war against Hamas began. The Cyber Avengers are a hacking collective that is associated with Iran. They also are supportive of Palestine. And ever since the conflict began, we have seen them proactively targeting anything associated with Israel. Experts say the Cyber Avengers group is becoming increasingly sophisticated. Federal authorities reportedly believe the group successfully hacked four water treatment plants on the East Coast in recent days. All of them use software developed by an Israeli-owned company.
Starting point is 01:03:49 This group has expressed that this is just the beginning, and we should be vigilant that future attacks might occur where they see opportunities. So Pennsylvania State Police say they are using a team of computer experts to investigate the hack. I hope it's that Sysadmin lady. She'll figure it out. I'm telling you, first of all, why is a water pump in Pennsylvania connected to the internet in any way? So, because the Sysadmin wants to do it from home.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Exactly. We don't know why. He wants to monitor the pumps from home. Take these things off the net and you won't have any problems at all. I just love these stories. A local water supply company hooked their pumps to the internet. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 01:04:37 It's stupid. Back to AI. I just want to remind everybody why AI is not real. It's not true, it's not working, it's bogus, because I will not believe in AI until it fixes my email spam. Why
Starting point is 01:04:53 isn't someone creating a large language model to do that? Email spam, nothing. What about these stupid phone calls I get from Stephen, the Bengalese guy named Steven, who's asking me if I want to get better cable service or if I want to get a new deal,
Starting point is 01:05:13 if I want to take a discount on my something or other, and it's all bull crap. Why isn't that tracked down? This is costing the American public billions of dollars and just wasted time picking up these stupid calls from Steven. Well, I think we need to kill Steven. That may be easier. Let's get rid of that guy. I'm just saying Google is the premier source of email for most people in the Western world. Maybe there's definitely, I think Apple also has a lot of people there's still some aol
Starting point is 01:05:47 people out there why don't they make it so that your email only shows you what you want really shows you the things that are important to you you know they just willy-nilly filter stuff into promotions great including our newsletter half the time where they let real spam come through. Until that time when Google always reliably delivers you the no agenda newsletter to the top of your list and says, important, important, important. And doesn't file it away. AI is bogus. Well, I'm not going to argue that point. Yeah, where is AI shown to be useful except for cranking out mediocre art?
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah, or writing the advertorials for Sports Illustrated. That was pretty funny. The Sports Illustrated story is the best. So bad. But it wasn't even, they're just buying this from a company that is delivering advertorial content. You know, it's totally, oh, by the way, oh my goodness. First sighting of the season. First sighting of the season.
Starting point is 01:06:58 What do we expect every single Christmas time? Come on. Well, we get the shopper who buys the gifts for everybody in the store christmas spirit is alive and well in melbourne a secret santa came into kmart's richmond store on saturday and paid off all the lay buyers among the items a 200 barbie house and an 89 barbie dreamboat kmart hasn't revealed how much the good samaritans spent or how many customers benefited from the gesture. It just does our heart good when we see that Australians
Starting point is 01:07:28 are still prepared to help others in need even though they don't know who they are. They're not family or friends but just random acts of kindness. It's great. Pricey, where were you? Can you prove you weren't there? Now, this is a...
Starting point is 01:07:44 They should ban these stories. As you point out, these are bogus stories. They're probably not even true, let alone, it's already after the fact, so what difference does it make to anyone who wants to get
Starting point is 01:07:55 a free doll or toy from Walmart? It's nonsense. Yeah, every year. This is a triple whammy. First of all, as you, well, I'll get back to the third of the whammies. But here we have the typical, we know that this is done over and over again, Secret Santa. And they're always promoting Walmart or Walgreens or Target. It's always a big box store.
Starting point is 01:08:22 It's a known promotion. And this time it's Australia. kind of, you know, they are 12 hours ahead of us. So the first ones to come out with it, but they did not inform the old coot on the news team. Everybody's in on it. Everybody, except for the old guy. And I don't know what this old guy does at this news desk, but he's and they involve him by saying, where were you old guy? Did you do this? You old adorable coot. And the old guy
Starting point is 01:08:54 does not follow the script because they forgot to give it to him. Can you prove you weren't there? Work this out. Why? Why would someone do that? What do you mean? Because it's a lovely thing to do. Why would someone do that? What do you mean? Because it's a lovely thing to do. Why would you do that? Because it's the Christmas spirit.
Starting point is 01:09:09 To help people out. Yeah. Maybe, I don't know, it just puzzles me. You would do it. You think Kmart did it themselves? No, no. Why are you saying we did it? You think that. Well, no. I'm just puzzled as to why this would happen. But if they did that, wouldn't they just say we've forgiven the lay-by?
Starting point is 01:09:26 Exactly. It's a theory. It could be anyone. Who puts stuff on lay-by in the middle? Oh, you know. Not everyone's got a private jet. You don't want us to go back to the private jet thing. So then they accuse him of being rich and he has a private jet.
Starting point is 01:09:39 But listen to what. Private jet. So he says, well, didn't Kmart just do this themselves and one of the guys if you listen carefully actually says why would we do that can you prove you weren't there work this out
Starting point is 01:09:54 why would someone do that so first why would someone do don't you understand it's an ad old dude why would someone do that? What do you mean, why would they do that? Because it's a lovely thing to do. Why would you do that?
Starting point is 01:10:11 Because it's the Christmas spirit. To help people out. Yeah. Maybe, I don't know, it just puzzles me. You would do it. You think K-Mart did it themselves. No, no, why are you saying we do it? You think that.
Starting point is 01:10:23 I don't know if you can hear it. One of the guys on the panel says, why do you say we would do that? No, no. Why do you think that? Now, that's the second part of the triple whammy. The real joke is, and of course, you don't have the images. They show the store. They show a guy at the, I guess, the layaway desk, bringing out two articles and placing them right in front of the camera listen again to who's really paying for this ad christmas spirit is alive
Starting point is 01:10:53 and well in melbourne a secret santa came into kmart's richmond store on saturday and paid off all the lay buyers among the items a 200 barbie house and an 8989 Barbie dreamboat. It's a Barbie ad! Yeah, Mattel. It's Mattel! It's Mattel! And they place it and say it's $200, $80 for this and they have it right there. Yeah, they even put the price. Yes! It's a Mattel ad, people.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Mattel's on a roll. Get with it. They did a whole movie that's an ad and people flock to it. I gotta hand it to Mattel. They did a whole movie that's an ad and people flock to it. I got to hand it to Mattel. They were almost dead. Oh, yeah, they got some new marketing person at Mattel that knows what they're doing. They were almost dead 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Remember that? They were like the short of the century. They were dead and boom, there it is. The short of the century. They were. Oh, man, it's just so beautiful. So beautiful. Well, this sort of thing, I caught a native ad. Oh, man. It's just so beautiful. So beautiful. Well, this sort of thing, I
Starting point is 01:11:45 caught a native ad. Oh, good. This native ad, where do we have it called here? Would it be native ad? It probably would be, but I don't see it. I see Nikki Haley. How about the Pop Start bagel? No, here it is. Pop Start.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I have to set this up. Pop Start. Pop Start is on the Today Show. It's a little segment that Carson Daly comes out and he does. It is, Pop Start. I have to set this up. Pop Start, my favorite segment. Pop Start is on the Today Show. It's a little segment that Carson Daly comes out and he does. It's called Pop Start, and it's all native ads. And it's really pathetic because it's really, I mean, it's pathetic because they plug one thing after another, and they're coming out. I left this up to the end of the coming out of a new single by, left this up to the end of the coming out of a new single by uh what the what's the name of the singer that's married to uh the other black the famous black singer and i need a little more to
Starting point is 01:12:33 work with uh she's married to the richest black singer in the world uh j uh it's j i think it's j-lo j-lo she's she's latina latinx well whatever she is so she but she's got a new signal it's J-Lo. J-Lo? She's Latina. Latinx. Well, whatever she is. But she's got a new signal. It's the greatest thing ever, and they're oohing and aahing over it. And so they go to the next thing. And then they go into this product that is a- Beyonce.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I think you're talking about Beyonce. Beyonce. There you go. And so it doesn't matter because they're going into the real native ad. Tell that to Beyonce. The one I think is think is yes i'm sorry i'll be quiet they're going into this ad for a bagel that's got beer in the dough and there's mail order bagel and so they're going on and on about this bagel and and and it is a plug for the
Starting point is 01:13:22 bagel company which is a pop-up bagel and you you get to listen to Al Roker two times say, I love pop-up bagels. I love pop-up. He does it twice to make sure that he gets it. What are pop-up bagels? It's a bagel pop-up store that crops up in New York, I guess. And it's what it's called? It's called the bagel pop-up? Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 01:13:44 The brand name. I'm unfamiliar with it. But the way they oohing and aahing, this is the worst kind of native ad you'll ever hear. Let's practice, John. We can get one of these. Ready? That is crazy. You want to see what's happening there? J-Lo is set to release a single called Can't Get Enough in January.
Starting point is 01:14:07 You are right. It's J-Lo. I take it all back. The album release and film debut on Prime Video, February 16th. Steamy stuff in the holidays with J-Lo Lopez. Finally. You know we love a good food collaboration of Popstar. We've covered Ted Lasso.
Starting point is 01:14:23 John, how much do you love a good food collaboration with your favorite Popstar. We've covered Ted Lasso. John, how much do you love a good food collaboration with your favorite Popstar? Nothing like it. There's nothing like it. Finally, we love a good food collaboration of Popstar.
Starting point is 01:14:38 We've covered Ted Lasso's ice cream. We just did the McDonald's Crocs recently. Now, Blue Moon's bagels. That's right. Blue Moon and New York's beloved pop-up bagels. I love pop-up bagels. Are teaming up and infusing real beer into this beautiful breakfast bread. Oh, my God. Did you dream this?
Starting point is 01:14:54 Orange cream cheese. Did you manifest this? Yes, I did. This is happening right now. Salt bagel. So try a bagel and dip it in one of these spreads. What are you dipping it in? Oh, the orange? Yeah. I'm not really sure, but I wanted to give you an answer.. What are you dipping it in? Oh, the orange.
Starting point is 01:15:05 I'm not really sure, but I wanted to give you an answer. Is the beer in the bagel or is the beer in the spread? Oh, they're nice and warm. Savannah has both. It's in the bagel. I bring bagels and beer. It's in the bagel. I love this.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Oh, man. I love pop-up bagels. I love pop-up bagels. Oh, my God. Crunchy outside and soft inside. It's delicious. It's delicious. Much like you. I love pop-up bagels. Oh, my God. Crunchy outside and soft inside. It's delicious. Much like you.
Starting point is 01:15:29 There is no alcohol in the beer. I mean, in the bagel. Is this the one you bring in? No. Those are towel bagels. Salted, plain, everything, order nationwide. Shipping starts today at noon. If you're interested to have this feast, you can do that noon Eastern time.
Starting point is 01:15:41 This is a delicious bagel. I don't know when the last time I had one. Thank you, Carsey. Thank you, Carsey. You got it. it oh my word this is what tvs come to well i can i can not as funny but i can show you it's even worse than that by the way people will say man linda lupatkin's doing a native ad well i don't think so i love linda lupatkin oh yeah she has great job search needs police police people no this uh now you alluded to some of this and it's not the first clip i'm going to play uh but the native ad is in full effect for um death bound uh manjaro which is the you know the new weight loss version of manjaro manjaro is the diabetes
Starting point is 01:16:32 weight loss drug which um is for diabetics but it helps you lose weight and death bound which i think is called zep bound but death bound as we call it, is native advertising everywhere. But this is a huge shift in lots of different businesses. And we're going to get to the ultimate outcome of what needs to happen and what I think everyone is really pining over. But one of the companies that clearly needs to correct themselves is Weight Watchers. Because for years, Weight Watchers told people it was your, it was you, you, you have no self-control. Yeah, you're eating too damn much food.
Starting point is 01:17:19 You have no portion control. Well, now we know, thanks to big pharma and incessant lying, that people who are overweight, it's not you. It's a medical condition. It's a disease. It's a disease. It's not the horrible crap foods you're eating. It's not the portions you're eating. Man, when I was growing up in the Netherlands, the Dutch people would always go, you americans you have big gulp what is that sheet man no wonder you're fat yeah we're drinking big gallons of sugary water but that's not the problem it's a disease so weight watchers hired cnn and they did a beautiful advertorial i tightened it up to uh you know like a buck 45 and they how long was it oh it was three minutes it was it was an expensive expensive cnn business cnn business cnn business i don't think anyone watches this but yeah so they have probably
Starting point is 01:18:21 could have gone 10 minutes so they have a relatively new CEO, and she is sorry. But in 2023, another huge shift, led by CEO Seema Sastani. Weight Watchers jumped into the booming prescription weight loss drug business, acknowledging that for some, diet and exercise aren't enough. So I want to be the first to say I'm sorry. And we know better now. We will do better now. For many who are living
Starting point is 01:18:46 with obesity, it's a chronic condition and therefore it is not a choice. We needed to be the first to be proud and loud about the fact that we got it wrong in the past. We've been treating these medications like it's a vanity and it's not. It life-saving in some ways it's sort of make or break for the business too though right because this is sort of the direction this industry is going this is disgusting oh yeah especially with the piano music on a news item supposedly yeah piano music on a news item is kind of a giveaway that's a native ad but this is disgusting so basically they're higher their entire modus operandi which is to get people to eat less food or eat that or and then switch over
Starting point is 01:19:31 completely eating their crummy food as a part of a of a lifestyle change did they've just given up on it no no no i know what they we talked about what the change they made but this is them selling the change it'll come at the end past we've been treating these medications like it's a vanity and it's not it's life-saving in some ways it's sort of make or break for the business too though right because this is sort of the direction this industry is going with or without weight watchers i would say that's true i would say that's true. I would say that's true. And I think that people who are deniers about the fact that obesity is a chronic condition are fat deniers. John, don't you dare deny that this is a chronic medical condition. You are a denier if you say that. Going to be
Starting point is 01:20:19 left behind. Weight Watchers bought Sequence, a $99 a month telehealth subscription service that connects patients to doctors who can prescribe weight loss and diabetes drugs. It's incredibly important to communicate the risks, and that's why the training in obesity care management is really important. Also, the lifestyle interventions that need to be done alongside the medications. Why should somebody come to Weight Watchers for these kinds of prescription weight loss drugs instead of just going to their doctor? Well, they can absolutely go to their doctor, but I think that what we can provide is a higher support solution. Many doctors don't have training in nutrition, obesity care management, and nor do they have the support system to basically help throughout the journey.
Starting point is 01:21:05 How do you avoid having to rebrand the company every couple of years as people talk about weight loss differently? I think of it less as rebranding and more that we should be changing. We should be evolving. You can't be around for 60 years and still be the same thing. Our whole world has shifted. Yes, they are now in obesity care management and why go to a doctor when you can get a higher support solution i mean seriously why go to the doctor who if he's any good or she is any good they'll say what are you nuts stop eating stop eating you fat pig you're a denier you're a denier. So now we have the best way to position yourself as a company. Well, the best way used to be give yourself an award.
Starting point is 01:21:56 You create an award show, give yourself the award. Isn't that what the Archer Daniel Midlands Award, whatever the... No, what's that award you can buy? What's that thing called? Most of the awards you have to pay for to enter. Yeah. And then to buy it, they'll kind of tease you with the award, but you got to give them more money.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Yeah. I forget. Very common. What's the thing that they always have the air... Oh, J.D. Power. Thank you, Troll Room. Oh, J.D. Power. J.D. Power.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Classic. J.D. Power, give me a break. The company has made billions on awards. We're stupid, but we'll get to that later. Well, I've been trying to do awards, but you refuse, you refuse. I know, I know, because I'm too honest. You just refuse, you hate it. So, Manjaro does the study of their own drug.
Starting point is 01:22:43 That's usually how you get it approved anyway. So we might as well put it into some, run it through chat GPT, turn it into a press release. And there's a reason for this. They are all angling for one single thing. We'll listen to the native ad that is running on NBC. Now to a new report on two popular weight loss drugs,
Starting point is 01:23:03 Manjaro and Ozempic. Well, for the first time, researchers looked at real-world data on the two medications. Real-world data. W-R-D. Comparing how much weight people lost in them, and get this, one came out way ahead.
Starting point is 01:23:17 NBC News business correspondent Christine Roman. Oh, no, one came way ahead as a winner. Yeah, the one who paid us more. Now with more on this intriguing. The one who did the study. Headline. Christine, good morning. It is.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Good morning to both of you. Hold on. Before you play the end of this. On this same show that you pulled this clip, was there any mention of the 450,000 Africans that are now homeless and roaming as refugees? There's even one mention of it? Well, if they were fat, they would be. But that's the problem. They're not eating.
Starting point is 01:23:48 They don't have this disease. Now with more on this intriguing headline. Christine, good morning. It is. Good morning to both of you. You know, this is a hot topic for sure. Hot topic! Hot topic! Hot topic for sure! Hot topic! This whole class of drugs is very exciting. According to the NIH, more than two out of every five adults in this country
Starting point is 01:24:04 suffer from obesity. And we know from clinical trials that Ozempic and Manjaro, they work really well to help people lose weight. But now a new analysis finds one of those drugs is the clear winner in getting results. Yeah. Didn't we play this clip on the last show? No, no, no, no, no. This is new. This is new information, man.
Starting point is 01:24:21 This is brand new. This is great. And Manjaro can help decrease how much food you eat they're two of the most popular weapons in the battle against weapons weapons weapons this is a war a war against fat now a new report suggests one of these blockbuster drugs is far more effective in helping people slim down the The analysis looked at real-world data from about 18,000 overweight adults using Munjaro or Ozempic over a year. It found those taking Munjaro
Starting point is 01:24:52 were three times more likely to lose 15% of their body weight than those on Ozempic, and more than two and a half times more likely to lose 10% of their body weight. Well, I know which one I'm choosing. While not a peer-reviewed study, this echoes previous research.
Starting point is 01:25:08 While not a peer-reviewed study, which was, you know, when it came to ivermectin, it's not peer-reviewed! This is just a conspiracy theory! This has been debunked many times over. And more than two and a half times more likely to lose 10% of their body weight. Through the math,
Starting point is 01:25:24 people. While not a peer-reviewed study, this echoes previous research that found Mojaro more effective than Ozempic in helping some people with weight loss. Both drugs are taken through weekly injections and are FDA-approved only for type 2 diabetes, not weight loss. I've lost 17 pounds in eight weeks. But demand is soaring as more patients use them off-label to shed unwanted pounds. Doctors say they work by mimicking hormones in the gut tied to appetite. The major difference between the two medications is that Manjaro is
Starting point is 01:25:56 working on two hormones and Ozempic is working on one hormone. So you're essentially getting more bang for the buck when you take Manjaro. After struggling with obesity her whole life, Tara Rothenhofer joined a clinical trial for Manjaro. Three years in, she says she's lost more than 200 pounds. Instead of that feeling of looking towards your next meal while you're still eating the current meal, you're having more of that feeling of satisfaction, of enjoyment. You know, you have a few bites of something and you feel full.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Eli Lilly, maker of Moonjaro, says it'll soon release a version that's FDA approved for weight loss called Zeb Bound. In a statement, the maker of Ozempic, Nova Nordisk, told us their drug is only meant to treat type 2 diabetes. Its approved drug for weight loss called Wagovi is similar but at a higher dose than Ozempic. Experts caution the safety of these drugs is still unknown in healthy people who just want to lose a few pounds.
Starting point is 01:26:54 Who cares? They can have side effects like gastrointestinal distress, nausea, and vomiting. And they only curb hunger while being used. For most patients, when you stop the medication, you will regain roughly two thirds of that weight. This is not a medication that will reset you for life. OK, and now we get down to what this is really all about. One thing and one thing only. And I guarantee you the Biden administration will push this and push and push through executive order,
Starting point is 01:27:25 whatever they need. They're going to get this in one place, the most important. Remember, this is a disease. This is a debilitating disease. This is ruining people's lives. This is a horrible thing. And we finally have a solution. So we need that where? On Medicare. So bottom line, Christine, no matter what, these drugs are expensive. How much does insurance cover? So right now, these are quite expensive. Some of these drugs are hundreds of dollars a week. Now, if you are prescribed for diabetes, then you might have insurance that will cover this.
Starting point is 01:27:57 And insurance does cover a lot of people on these drugs. But for weight loss specifically, some of these drugs are not covered by insurance. And one of the wrinkles here is that Medicare, way back like 20 years ago in the fen-fen craze, Congress made it that Medicare would not cover weight loss because there were so many dramatic scams. So they need to go back and figure it. Once Medicare starts to cover it for weight loss, then you'll probably see insurers start to follow. We're not there yet. We are in the early days of this.
Starting point is 01:28:25 But this is a health story. It's also an economy story because when you can get health care costs in this country under control, it could be really life-changing and also financially important for the country. Absolutely. When less people are obese and having complications in that way. $1,000 a pop for bullshit is not going to help anybody. No, but what they want is that the drug companies,
Starting point is 01:28:50 but Eli Lilly is leading the charge, they want their drugs on Medicare. They want this to be covered by Medicare so they can pull ahead of the rest of the pack and under a lie, I mean, I'm not a doctor, but come on now.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Yeah, you're puking, you have stomach issues, the food noise is gone. And so, you know, we got to get the Medicare, but it changes the lives of the, it'll combat climate change. I'm telling you, we're going to see this. Climate change is part of it. I got a bunch of clips called Spending Dilemma that might actually touch on this. Let me play one last one
Starting point is 01:29:31 because this is such a wonder drug. It's doing more. I mean, we know that people don't want to drink alcohol. They don't want to snort cocaine. And then... This is a conversation I'm really excited
Starting point is 01:29:40 that we're about to have. We've heard a lot about the benefits of Ozempic. We're talking about WeGoV, what has become weight loss drugs. But now... Oh, now, wait a minute. We're better than Manjaro. There's new information about how we can
Starting point is 01:29:56 help women who are going through menopause. So how does it work and what does it mean for any woman who may be approaching that age? Tell me. Yeah, we are joined now by Dr. Robbins to talk more about this. And this is a conversation I know, Shirlene, you were really, as we had our meetings in the newsroom, so many points to get to. So let me just say this. Dr. Alicia Robbins, she's a board-certified OBGYN.
Starting point is 01:30:17 She is a lifestyle physician. She also has a medical practice called the ELM, which specializes in perimenopause and menopause for women i've never even heard of a practice that specializes in this oh this is so exciting guys but dr robbins first of all thank you for joining us and can you please tell us right off the bat first of all who should be paying attention to this right now this is not just older women right talk about that first it's not just for older women. No. Menopause. You've got to be thinking about it when you're young. First of all, hi everyone. Thank you
Starting point is 01:30:50 so much for having me. This is so fun. It's so fun. It's so fun. I'm getting paid. It's so fun. And I'm so glad that we're bringing attention to this. So yes, Jolene, like you said, menopause is... They should give it to newborns. Getting more... We're talking about it more, thankfully, finally.
Starting point is 01:31:06 This also applies to women in their 40s, which is really the simplest way of when we say perimenopause. Perimenopause is the time in your 40s or even late 30s when your hormones start to change and you start transitioning towards menopause. But it can last a decade. So really, I'm talking about women in their 40s and 50s should listen to this you really need to get on this stuff in your 40s because you know you know you turn 40 and you know stuff starts to slip and you get a little pudgy i mean this will help with your menopause these people are ghouls. This is evil. And we need to, as you say, outlaw advertising of pharmaceutical products to consumers. Yeah, that would include native ads. Ah, disgusting.
Starting point is 01:31:56 All right. See the spending dilemma clip. I defer the rest of my time to the gentleman from Berkeley. Spending dilemma. Let me see. Oh, this looks interesting. Is America heading toward a debt disaster? What is Congress doing about the nation's increasing indebtedness?
Starting point is 01:32:15 The House discusses the problem. One lawmaker saying the damage will be catastrophic and irreparable. NTD's Virginia Gibson has more. This is our generation's world war. It's a problem of historic proportions. The most important and incredible threat to the republic as we know it. Continued inaction will prove disastrous. America's national debt.
Starting point is 01:32:38 It continues to surge nonstop as Congress continues borrowing to spend. The end result could be economic calamity for future generations. The House Budget Committee discussed the urgency of the issue Wednesday. The only people that can fix this is the United States Congress. And to think that the United States Congress is going to be willing to do this is laughable. Lawmaker Steve Womack says Congress has done nothing to address this issue he says the big problem is that no politician wants to cut the biggest sources of spending entitlement programs in particular social security health care income security and medicare cutting these
Starting point is 01:33:19 things will be unpopular with voters this is great and by the way this is great social security is a separate fund or supposed to be because if you look at your you get a your check stub it shows you the deductions you got your taxes yeah they're supposed to pick up for the and then it has social security separate they're supposed to be kept separate so the fact that they're stealing the Social Security, in other words, it's just another part of the tax, is unconscionable. And nobody has done anything to stop that. Wait, you're getting mad about this? No, I'm not. Well, I've been mad about it.
Starting point is 01:34:00 Yeah. It's like it's a scam. And they're taking this money. Right now, we're finally at the point. It took a long time, but we got to the point where we're taking in less money than we're borrowing on a yearly basis. I think 115% is what we're borrowing. Not according to Janet Yellen, by the way. She says that's fake news.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Everybody says it except her. That's just the best part. She's in charge of it. But they're stealing money left and right. And then that's why it's interesting about they want to add $1,000 to Medicare, you know, a month to these people to pay for it, for their shots, $1,000 shot, which is bogus. And the other point is, is that if they put in an enforcement agency and Medicare, they could cut them probably the budget in half for that because there's so much scamming going on. Well, this is the biggest scam is this. I mean, that's one.
Starting point is 01:34:57 It's probably pales by comparison. But let's continue. And politicians need votes to stay in power. The debt is so high interest payments themselves take up 16% of spending. Interest is crowding out all of our discretionary programs. Interest is certainly crowding out defense. My colleague on that subcommittee and I both see that every single day and it's certainly happening on the non-defense side. One possible ray of hope, a fiscal commission. We need an outside group of experts to help us understand what the absolute truth is. The commission would analyze the economic situation and then provide recommendations to Congress.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Put John and Adam on this commission. Another waste of money. Put us on this. This would be fun. We could have fun with this commission. So they don't want to audit the Pentagon, which is obviously a source of money. Put us on this. This would be fun. We could have fun with this commission. So they don't want to audit the Pentagon, which is obviously a source of waste. There's all kinds of waste going on. This guy's bitching about the fact that our interest is overtaking the military budget, which is
Starting point is 01:35:55 bloated. Alright, we'll finish this off. I love it. The fiscal commission may not be the magic potion, as the chairman had said, and it may fail. It may. But we cannot stop trying. Lawmaker Bill Huizenga believes this commission would be the most practical and immediate way Congress can break the status quo.
Starting point is 01:36:16 It's unclear how Congress would react to recommendations from such a commission. By clutching their pearls. The Curry-Dvorak Commission. I can see it already, John. That would work. We'll be taking private jets around the country. Check everything out.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Check everything out. It's obvious where they're going to get it from. It's from a carbon tax. That is the global idea. That's what they're hoping for. You're right. It's more than just what they're going to get it from is from a carbon tax. That is the global idea. Well, that's what they're hoping for. You're right. Well, it's more than just what they're hoping for.
Starting point is 01:36:48 I mean, they're really starting to push this. But the pot where the carbon tax money goes is going to be the UN. It's not going to go to the Govi shots. They have a, well, you're right. It's going to go to the UN, and they're already setting it up. There's even an organization for this. What is this organization called? It's the Tax Justice Network.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Put justice in anything, and you're good to go. Oh, yeah, justice. Last week, countries at the UN voted for the organization to take a greater role in international tax matters. The move is perceived as a threat to the ascendancy of the OECD, the body that has led these discussions for decades. Countries at the UN adopted a resolution to begin the process of establishing a framework convention on tax and completely change how global tax rules are decided. The resolution was led primarily by African member states and could eventually move decision-making on global tax rules from the OECD,
Starting point is 01:37:58 a club of developed countries, to the UN. You're spot on. It will be moved to the United Nations. And because Africa is involved with it, that means it's a carbon tax. And I have the details here. I have the actual numbers from France 24 as climate finance, or as we in the biz say, climate finance, is on the agenda for COP28, which is kicking off. Climate finance is going to be one of the items really at the top of the agenda of the COP28 taking place, of course, in the United Arab Emirates. As we said, participants
Starting point is 01:38:33 trying to find an agreement on a target to fix. And Sean Pellegrin is here to tell us more, Sean. That's right. This is a huge topic of conversation that covers many different sectors, areas, whether it's clean energy investments or spending on climate resilient infrastructure. And at COP 21 in Paris in 2015, richer countries agreed that they should help poorer countries that are more vulnerable to the climate chaos caused by the carbon emissions of developed economies. Well, the commitment that was agreed on by these developed countries in successive climate talks was of $100 billion per year in climate assistance by 2020. But wait! A goal that was missed for several years and that might finally actually have been reached this year.
Starting point is 01:39:23 But the needs are so much bigger than that number. Actual estimates of how much is needed by emerging markets and developing countries in order to keep global warming under the set target of two degrees. Well, they're much higher. By 2030, $1 trillion will be needed annually in external... What? What? What happened to 1.5 degrees?
Starting point is 01:39:47 Shut up! ...higher by 2030. $1 trillion will be needed annually in external assistance. And total spending for these countries would actually be much higher than that, around $2.4 trillion. would actually be much higher than that, around $2.4 trillion. Shut up and listen, because you don't know what you're talking about. You stupid pleb.
Starting point is 01:40:17 They need $1 trillion a year, but really $2.7 trillion a year. They're going to steal it from everybody. And we're going to be living in cardboard boxes it's unbelievable that needs that we need a revolt the revolution and of course this is exactly what uh donald trump is uh former president trump is saying is uh no i gotta i gotta get in here because uh everyone's crazy they've all gone nuts they apparently are if they're gonna pull up if they're anyone's buying into this so now that trump once again is on the scene talking sense as witnessed by many people who are starting to say yeah well you know but before i continue i have to have to read this
Starting point is 01:40:58 boots on the remember the amazon engineer who told us that the rivian deal that amazon did with all their delivery for with these rivian pickup trucks that they can't have them. You know, the charging station stuff is blowing up. These things are catching on fire. So listen to this latest update from our Amazon engineer boots on the ground because of power generation issues at the power companies. Amazon is now using diesel powered generators to power the vehicle chargers oh i love it that's so good so trump is is is you know this is the one speech that he did that everyone's up in arms over at least it's being used to clutch pearls um this is where he
Starting point is 01:41:44 said these vermin have got to go. He has the vermin speech. Now known as the vermin speech. Heaven forbid you use the word vermin. Well, it's much worse. Because over there at NPR, on the media, they did a midweek show. They had to do a special edition
Starting point is 01:42:00 in between shows with Brook Latza. To discuss the word vermin. Oh,ow. To discuss the word vermin. Oh, no, not just the word vermin. The entire speech, Jeff Charlotte, who is the author of Undertow, scenes from a slow civil war, has been around the country. He's been around the country. He has talked to everybody. And he comes back and he lets us know that because of Trump and Trumpism, we are in the midst of a slow civil war.
Starting point is 01:42:32 And this is all based upon an analysis of Trump's vermin speech, also known as the post-indictment speech. And I had people who had started clipping this for me and i had already clipped it this is how unhinged deranged this is from our national treasure known as npr his post-indictment speech last saturday i have a record crowd here today so that's represented a turning point in his rhetoric he was talking about the final battle which he's's been doing. This is the final battle. This is the most important election we've ever had. But then there was another element. He's speaking of obliteration. He's saying, not only is there a risk of World War III, there will absolutely be World War III unless I am returned to power. I will prevent World War III. I will prevent it. And now people believe it.
Starting point is 01:43:25 This is what I love about this entire analysis. They put words in his mouth over and over again. He didn't say there will be World War III unless I'm returned to power. He didn't say that. Absolutely. Be World War III unless I am returned to power. I will prevent World War III. I will prevent it. And now people believe it. Well, he said the same thing in the speech that just preceded January 6th. He said
Starting point is 01:43:55 you have to fight it. So she basically contradicts the basic thesis of the guy because the guy said things have changed he's got new rhetoric i know and so she comes out says well by the way he said the same thing back here and and i've listened to a lot of his speeches i don't listen to much of them anymore they haven't changed he goes up there does a bunch he does a buck uh buck 15 buck 30 of schtick. Hilarious.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Mostly the same interchangeable material, and boom. No, no, this is, something has changed now. We have to be very afraid of this warmongering Jew hater. That just preceded January 6th. He said, you have to fight as hard as you can, or you won't have a country. Oh, no, that's not the same thing. When he means World War III, he's not talking about not having country. He's talking about nuclear obliteration. This won't be a conventional war with army tanks going back and forth,
Starting point is 01:44:53 shooting each other. This will be nuclear war. This will be obliteration, perhaps obliteration of the entire world. I will prevent it. Nobody else can say that that i alone can stop it right which is of course a classic of fascist rhetoric he didn't say that he never said i alone but this is how these people hear it this is what's so fascinating about this is you're right because this is exactly what they're hearing and then you talk to the liberals and they anywhere you are and you're they all hear it's it's the dimension thing again. They're they're living in a in a different dimension. They're hearing different things.
Starting point is 01:45:31 Yes. It's very Democrats are just going to fire off a nuke for no reason. So now they've heard that the Democrats are going to fire off a nuke for no reason. Yeah, I think that is how it's being heard, that we are very close to nuclear war with Russia, that he alone can stop it. But it's even more abstract than that, right? So when he says, at the end of the day, either the communists win and destroy America, or we destroy the communists, because that's what they are. They may go by a different name. Fascists, Marxists. She opens and closes the speech with some kind of classic anti-Semitism,
Starting point is 01:46:12 talking about globalists and Marxists. What? I love this. He's a Jew hater. Classic anti-Semite talking about communists and Marxists. So if you bitch about Marxism, you're a Jew hater. Correct. He's expanding.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Because Marx was, Marx, by the way, was an admitted atheist. Okay. That's the whole point. Exactly. Exactly. But no, no, no, no. This is the new anti-Semite. This is the face of Jew hate.
Starting point is 01:46:44 They may go by a different name. Fascists. Marxists. He opens and closes the speech with some kind of classic anti-Semitism, talking about globalists and Marxists. He didn't say globalists. Ending the potent conspiracism of anti-Semitism so that it applies to all of his enemies. But lest anyone be confused, he doubles down in the middle by talking about Jack Smith. The special counsel who indicted him. Jack Smith. What do you think his name used to be?
Starting point is 01:47:12 I don't know. Does anybody ever? Jack Smith. Sounds so innocent. What is his original name? What's his real name? It's Jack Smith. But it couldn't be that sounds so innocent,
Starting point is 01:47:23 by which he means it sounds so all American white. Oh, I see. So when you say that, then you can't be one of us. He can't be one of us whiteys. No, no, no, no. Let's get back to the Jew stuff. And then at the end, and this was new, he said, we will drive out the globalists. We will cast out the globalists. We will cast out the communists.
Starting point is 01:47:47 We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country and wants to destroy our country. This is a reference to driving out the money changers. Jesus driving out the money changers. And this is my favorite. This is a reference to Jesus driving out the money changers. You know, the Jews. These people are sick, John. This is a sickness.
Starting point is 01:48:13 This is a real sickness. It wants to destroy our country. This is a reference to driving out the money changers. Jesus driving out the money changers. And to make sure you don't miss it, he refers, the speech writer, I should say, refers to both the Gospel of John and the Gospel of Matthew. The money changers, historically, in anti-Semitism are understood as the Jews, but in this moment, it's understood as the enemy. And the enemy is, it's Jack Smith, it's whoever is on the other side. That's interesting. Rather than cast the Jew as enemy, that's the tradition.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Here, that's already assumed. And so you cast the enemy, whoever that may be, as Jews. Help me. Help me understand how they come to this conclusion. I have no clue. They're weird. No, they're ill. This is mental illness.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Total mental. Yeah, the Jew becomes metaphor, and he's got plausible deniability because, of course, there are enough right-wing Jews. Because he's not saying any of it. No. Miller, who is Jewish, wrote that speech for him and has not been shy of using that language before. So we can say this isn't about Jews in a way for Trump. It's really not. His enemy is Jewish. So is Miller ever is against him and his power. And then since he's become proxy, when I go out and I speak to everyday
Starting point is 01:49:38 people, they see him as a martyr. Oh, he's a martyr. Now let's talk about martyrs for a second, because now we need to take it to not just Trump, but all the crazy people who are for Trump. Yes, they're really, dare I say it, racists. They hate black people. Black people are dangerous to Trump. So you say that Trump has always strived to create martyrs. Back in 2017, when he was president, he said that the wounded GOP Congressman Steve Scalise took a bullet for all of us when he was shot in the hip by someone who professed to be a Trump hater. He wasn't a Trump hater. I don't think that guy was a Trump hater. He was a Republican hater. Yeah, he hated all Republicans.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Trump wasn't even there. Which is worse, but Scalise didn't die, so he wasn't martyred. No. At a congressional baseball practice. on January 6th was, quote, processed, made productive, almost immediately after her death, transformed right away into yet another flag like a new tarot card in the deck of fascism.
Starting point is 01:50:54 What flag? I never saw an Ashley Babbitt flag. She wasn't killed. She was murdered. Oh, you racist. Processed, made productive, almost immediately after her death, transformed right away. No one talked about it. Another. We didn't even know. This is a lie. This is this reporting is some of the worst I've heard on NPR for a week or two.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Part for the course. We didn't even know who shot her for, I think, weeks and weeks. Took a long time before we before we knew who shot her for, I think, weeks and weeks. It took a long time before we knew who shot her. And then we heard it was an agent. And, you know, it was a long time before we knew the horrible truth, John. He was black. Processed, made productive almost immediately after her death, transformed right away into yet another flag like a new tarot card in the deck of fascism. Holy mackerel. A new tarot card in the deck of fascism.
Starting point is 01:51:53 And we'll listen to what, and now she, she says something. Boy, these guys think they're, they, they really think they're hot shit. Poets, poets, poetry, baby. It's poetry. A new tarot card in the deck of fascism where it joined Gazdan, the coiled snake on... Wait, isn't it Gadsen? Not
Starting point is 01:52:12 Gazdan. What did she say? I think it is Gazdan. I thought it was Gadsen. Gadsen. Yeah, Gadsen. But she says Gazdan. What a dope. What a dope. In the deck of fascism where it joined Gaz gazdan the coiled snake on yellow and the blue lives matter flag when i saw ashley babbitt white woman who led a mob climbed
Starting point is 01:52:36 up through a broken window and a capitol hill police officer shot her and killed her so we saw only the hands of the officer and is a black man. And I understood immediately as a student of American mythology and history, this is the lynching story. Innocent white womanhood killed by a black man. This is the template of Hollywood. You go back to The Birth of a Nation, one of the most influential movies of all time, 1915, based on a novel called The Klansman. It's a positive story about the Ku Klux Klan, and a white woman flees from a dangerous black man and jumps over a cliff and dies, and thus the Klan must ride to avenge her. Ashley Babbitt was such a productive martyr because she's wearing an American flag outfit, kind of. She's the only woman in this crowd, but she's
Starting point is 01:53:21 really fierce and tough. She's also a veteran. I started traveling around the country watching the myth in formation. Who Ashley Babbitt was doesn't matter to them. I mean, this is so racist, so hmm Oh, I'm going to use a modern word.
Starting point is 01:53:40 It's just racist. I'm going to use a modern word. This is the kind of left leaning racism that just permeates the Democrat Party right now. It's just completely out of control. And this interpretation of one of his many speeches, which are all pretty much the same, if you've seen one, you've seen most of them, it's onerous. And then to come up with all this crazy, you know, the tarot card in the deck of fascism and all these other things. It's ridiculous. This is embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:54:10 How can you have a tarot card in the deck of racism with the same time you're referring to Jesus kicking out the money changers? The deck of fascism. Yeah. And so now, of course, you have to understand that Ashley Babbitt, she's a perfect martyr for this. As Hollywood, mainly a left-leaning outfit there, Hollywood, as they created this beautiful, oh no, black man kills white woman, horrible. Oh yes, this is what we hate in America. Go Trump! Given all the myth-making about Ashley, you looked into her life, and what did you find?
Starting point is 01:54:46 Oh, boy. She documented her life very extensively. 8,000 tweets. She made a lot of videos. That's documenting your life all right, isn't it? Twitter, that's a documenting of my life. I found someone I think would surprise a lot of people. Ashley Babbitt from deep blue Southern California, kind of a beach person. Votes for Obama twice,
Starting point is 01:55:06 thinks he's the best president ever. So how did she get from there to here? What was the turning point? What do you think the turning point was? How did she get from there to dead? I mean, here, Brooke Gladstone. Oh, let's find out. She talks about a houseless man in Southern California. A houseless man. Oh boy. We can't even say homeless anymore. He's a houseless man in Southern California. A houseless man? Oh boy. We can't even say homeless anymore. He's a houseless man. A houseless man. A houseless man. Let's not offend anybody while we're doing this. So all renters in the United States are houseless men.
Starting point is 01:55:34 That's correct. She talks about a houseless man in Southern California defecating on her front lawn. And the compassion she's tried to have in her life, she just says, to hell with it. And Trump is right there with this story. He was right there on the sidewalk. He was right there with this anti-poop message.
Starting point is 01:55:52 He was right there on the sidewalk saying, Ashley Babbitt, I want you to be with me. Be a martyr. He's right there with this story. You know what? That anger you feel, it's not anger. It's love for your country. You don't have to swim against the current. Give into the undertow. Let it take
Starting point is 01:56:10 you out. Here's white supremacy is ready to carry you. And now she's got a leader. Poop on the front yard and white supremacy is all kind of the same thing. If you have poop in the front yard, just let white supremacy carry you away into utopia. This is the point. Let it take you out. Here's white supremacy is ready to carry you. And now she's got a leader and she's got a mythology and it's so easy to go with it. My God. If you're going to simplify it like that, I guess it is easy to go with it. She has a leader. I have the last clip. And she has a mythology. He never really talks about the mythology. What's the mythology?
Starting point is 01:56:49 The mythology. Okay, I'm sorry. I shouldn't be interrupting anymore because you just can never get this thing done. Keep playing. It's 39 seconds and we're over. The speech Trump gave on Saturday after the indictment, there's a key moment there where he's talking about cutting taxes and he gets cheers and then he starts talking about what he calls trans.
Starting point is 01:57:05 I just want to point out this usage of after the indictment. Just to keep reminding us, if you don't remember this, Trump is an indicted guy. Which means he's probably guilty. It must be.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Until proven innocent. What are you talking about? Stop that now. Do I need to play our buddy? John Brennan? Yes. Guilty. Where is it? I need to put this one back.
Starting point is 01:57:36 You should have it at the ready. Yeah, I need to put it back. Brennan, guilty. Here we go. This is what they really are talking about. People are innocent until, you know, alleged to be involved in some type of criminal activity. That's it.
Starting point is 01:57:51 That's the mantra right there. People are innocent until they're alleged to be involved in some kind of criminal activity. Guilty! The speech Trump gave on Saturday after the indictment, there's a key moment there where he's talking about cutting taxes and he gets cheers and then he starts talking about what he calls transgender craziness. And he gets huge cheers.
Starting point is 01:58:09 He steps back. And I've seen this moment in so many Trump eyes. He steps back. He says, look at that. You see, I'm talking about cutting taxes. People go like that. And he mimes moderate applause. I talk about transgender. Everyone goes crazy. Who would have thought five years ago you didn't know what that. Hold on a second. He didn't say transgender craziness. He said, I talk about transgender, everybody goes crazy. These people are literally hearing things. What he calls transgender craziness. And he gets huge to us.
Starting point is 01:58:38 He steps back. And I've seen this in so many Trump guys. He steps back. He says, look at that. You see, I'm talking about cutting taxes. People go go like that and he mimes moderate applause i talk about transgender everyone goes crazy who would have thought five years ago you didn't know what the hell it was this is how trump uses rallies he is not a leader he's riding this undertow he's the one saying is this where we're going he says five years ago nobody talked about it who'd have thought
Starting point is 01:59:03 not him but he'll follow now. Your national treasure, ladies and gentlemen. Okay, you'll get a clip of the day for that work. Oh, well, thank you. It did take me a little bit of time to do that. Clip of the day. Meanwhile, it must irk these people to no end that Fox News does stuff like this with the Rhode Island co-founder of Black Lives Matter. You know, this is my favorite story of the day because it identifies with what I've seen in the barbershop.
Starting point is 01:59:32 All the brothers, for some reason right now, are turning tides right now. And I just wonder, what is the big reason? I think personally, it's the duplicity of the Democrats. The hypocrisy. We're not stupid. The brothers are not stupid. We understand when someone's for us and when someone is not. And it's obvious that the Democratic Party is not for us. Yeah, I keep.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Their policies actually strike at the heart of the black family and the nuclear family. Yeah. So, you know, you were part of Black Lives Matter. You founded it there. And now you're saying you're not saying the entire Republican Party. You're saying Donald Trump. So what is it about Donald Trump? Is it the economics? You noted the black family. What is it going to take for him to sure up this support amongst black voters? Well, I just think that it's going to take information. A lot of people are misinformed. They don't really understand because they don't educate themselves on
Starting point is 02:00:31 Donald Trump as a person and his history. But if they do that, and it's going to take, you know, leaders, educated leaders getting the word out there. I think that it'll happen on its own and it'll be organic because personally, I love the man. I mean, how could you not like a real man?
Starting point is 02:00:48 How could you not relate to someone like that? Oh, we can't have that. Oh, he's a racist. Don't you know that? Yeah, that guy's going around. He seems irked. I want to bring in some Nikki Haleyaley stuff here because nikki nimrod nimrod haley what's nimrod haley is the one that what's her real name again she's the she's the new op
Starting point is 02:01:13 i know but what's her what's her real name you had it last time oh yeah it's nimrod i came up with nimrod but i yeah nimrod's good. I like Nimrod. We'll just use Nimrod Haley. So she is being promoted by a bunch of rich guys. Yeah, Koch brothers. Well, the Silicon Valley Republicans are backing her, too. I think some oil guys are backing her, as well. Yeah, they're all backing her. I don't know why. Well, I do know why. It's because they don't want Trump.
Starting point is 02:01:44 Yeah. But she's no good uh nimarata nimarata nimarata nimrod exactly yeah nimarata for sure yes um so she's the new op she's the new op i think she's been that way for several since they started putting money in her favor and and the thing that you notice if you watch even Fox, oh, she won the debate. Somehow she won the debate. Nobody's winning these debates, but somehow she's coming out ahead. And they keep pushing that.
Starting point is 02:02:16 And look at her numbers are going up. This is a pathetic attempt to thwart Trump for real. It's very pathetic. It's very pathetic. And here's some examples. Part one. With a narrower field of candidates in the GOP primary, we are seeing the remaining candidates picking up major endorsements. A political advocacy group backed by the Koch brothers recently threw their support behind Nikki Haley. And today, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon also said that Haley is the candidate who has the best chance of unseating GOP frontrunner Donald Trump. What do we make of this? Joining us to discuss is Mike Leon, host of Can We Please Talk podcast.
Starting point is 02:02:58 Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Well, this will change the tide. We've got a podcaster. Podcast justice. So she brings on a podcaster who doesn't know anything. Why do they bring him on, then? I have no idea. PR? Maybe he has a PR person. We can never get one because none of the PR people like us much. No, they hate us because, you know. They hate us.
Starting point is 02:03:21 That's what it is. So they bring this guy on. He's got nothing to say. And it's actually kind of funny what he says because he's a stooge. And by the way, the Koch brothers are notorious, even though they were mentioned a lot in 2015 and 2016 as terrible people. But once they turned on Trump, they never liked Donald Trump. No. So they sent him no support whatsoever.
Starting point is 02:03:43 And then the talk of the Koch brothers just disappeared because everyone's fine with them. OK, here we go. Mike Leon, thank you so much for joining us. Great to be back on the show. Now, big donors, including the billionaire Koch brothers, are backing Nikki Haley for president. That's the latest push to beat Trump. How do you read this, especially given the polls? Yeah, you know, it's so funny that now you're starting to see folks starting to weigh in. We saw Iowa Governor Reynolds back Ron DeSantis. Now we're seeing the donations that are coming in from the Koch brothers for Nikki Haley. I read it as similar to last time I was on. I was mentioning about how the debate performances went. And I think right now people are starting to see Nikki Haley's ascension after these debates.
Starting point is 02:04:27 I mentioned to you, Tiffany, I'm going to take a victory lap about Tim Scott would probably be dropping. And sure enough, he drops. And I think what's happening right now is you're starting to see even before we get to. Wow. He's got a crystal ball there on that podcast. I predict Tim Scott will drop out of the race. I'm going to take a victory lap about Tim Scott would probably be dropping. And sure enough, he drops.
Starting point is 02:04:47 And I think what's happening right now is you're starting to see, even before we get to January and the Iowa primary, you're starting to see a consolidation. And I think the money is starting to move towards Nikki Haley because we saw a poll in South Carolina trending upwards in her direction. We've seen her shoot up in morning council polls, which registered Republicans as about 4,000 or so in those polls. And she's moving up continually. Now, the problem is, is that they're all chasing the person that's 40, 50 points ahead of them. But there's legal troubles ahead for the former president. We know that there's going to be trial dates around key campaign dates, Super Tuesday, for example. The former president could be in court. And I think right now what you're seeing is the donors are starting to realize we have to put our money behind somebody that we think
Starting point is 02:05:33 can not only beat Trump in the GOP primary, but could also beat President Biden in the general. Nikki Haley's campaign has done that in terms of speaking to moderates and independents and Latinos and bringing in that coalition of voters. And I think right now the ear of those donors, she has caught on because of the messaging, because of the way she's performed in these debates. Well, so she, by the way, she's gaining ground in South Carolina where she was the governor. I'd hope she'd get some support. where she was the governor. I'd hope she'd get some support.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Sounds to me like some of these special interests and donors are, they're hedging their bets here because they, they don't think Trump can beat the rap and they, they want to have a backup horse. Yeah. That's what it sounds like. She's not going to beat any Democrat she might not even beat kamala harris that would be a great combination to see it would be great show
Starting point is 02:06:36 my mimi was a bitch the other day but hey you know i think things i said what are you talking about this is all great for the show yeah really mimi but i saw a clue i saw a picture i saw a picture of mimi she looks great i love the the color of her hair now she's got kind of changes it yeah i like it i like it a lot i do on with the final clip of nikki haley expanding on that point what is nikki haley doing right that the donors are backing her? Well, I think the biggest thing has been the humanizing word. She has used this a bunch of different times when speaking about issues that Republicans have been getting hammer on in the midterms, specifically around abortion, women's reproductive rights. She mentioned in the
Starting point is 02:07:19 first debate with Martha McCallum from Fox News. She mentioned it recently in the other debate. I think the other big thing that I was telling somebody this, a Republican strategist this, is right now the U.S. is involved in two wars. And there's a third potential illumine with respect to whatever China does with Taiwan. We have Russia, Ukraine. We have what's happening with Israel and Hamas, even though there's a pause right now in the fighting. And I think foreign policy-wise, Nikki Haley is way above some of these other candidates, specifically Vivek Ramaswamy. We've seen the back and forth him had about Vladimir Putin and the way they would talk to President Xi of China. So I think that's
Starting point is 02:07:57 what's happening right now. Foreign policy affects the U.S. economy. It affects things at home here, even though voters tend to rank it as lower issues. The billionaire donors know that President Trump ran on no new wars and being able to navigate the foreign policy waters. And I think Nikki Haley is carrying that torch. She was a former ambassador to the U.N. And right now she has put out the best plan in terms of messaging around what she would do for our allies involved in these wars and putting out the fires that could potentially come if China were to invade Taiwan. That's why I think the money is shifting towards her. She's a big warmonger. She's pro-Ukraine war. Yes, military
Starting point is 02:08:38 industrial complex. What is he talking about? The guy is full of it. He's part of the scheme. Oh, of course. This Nikki Haley thing is getting on my nerves. I can tell. I can tell. No, it's... Yes, she is a war... She's a warmonger. She's a hawk.
Starting point is 02:08:56 She's a McCain Democrat. And, you know, when you think about the Koch brothers, don't they make stuff for war? I'm sure they make stuff for war. They're an oil company. Yeah, the oil guys are behind. We're having dinner with the oil baron, the Texas oil baron. You did?
Starting point is 02:09:10 No, we're having dinner next Wednesday. And so I'm going to talk to him about it because I know that buddies of his, and he may also be a Nikki supporter, I'm going to ask, because we know that really those guys want a Democrat to win because that's, that's how they, that's how they're just look at the price of Exxon stock. If you want some confirmation,
Starting point is 02:09:33 exactly. Although Biden gets into stock sores. Yes. Beautiful. It's beautiful. Even though they're patriotic and they, they, they're,
Starting point is 02:09:43 you know, pro America, but Nikki Haley may just be just what the doctor ordered with that upside down smile i think that's what bothers me the most about her i don't like her her her look in general she's got yeah just because she has an upside down smile that's like a borderlining on a grimace and she's glib. She's horribly glib. If we could just be
Starting point is 02:10:09 very superficial for a moment and incredibly sexist. That's what we do. That's what our show does. She got saddlebags. Because that's what they do in real life, especially in the executive suites. She got saddlebags. She shouldn't be wearing jeans. She should wear a jacket. I didn't get to that. I didn't go that far.
Starting point is 02:10:28 I'm a fashion guy. I'm a fashion guy. I know. Normally, I'm a face guy. Normally, I'm a face guy. But yeah, she does not have a pleasant smile. No. It just has a scowl kind of. Yeah, it's like
Starting point is 02:10:43 borderline scowl. Yeah. Yeah, but it's going to resort to nothing. It's just not going to work. It's like, do these people really believe that? I think it's a backup. I think it's a backup hedge. And if Trump beats the rap, which I think he will, I mean, I don't think any of these cases will actually
Starting point is 02:11:05 happen before the election, do you think? They're going to try. They would like to find something to do to lock him up. Literally. Well, he can still run for president when he's locked up, can't he? Yeah, he can. He'll probably win. And then he can
Starting point is 02:11:23 pardon himself and good to go i don't know about that that's a big issue nobody knows for sure it would be good for the show who would do it here's the here's the question for the show and for the listeners and for the troll room and for the producers who's trump's vice president we've been pretty good at predicting these things. Well, but here's what I would do if I was him. Nikki Haley. No. She hates Trump. She won't do it. I can't see that. This is another be another bad selection. It's going to ask for an assassination. nicki haley is okay i have another option then comic strip blogger
Starting point is 02:12:07 alex jones anybody you think he has an idea do you seriously think he has a thought about that right he must i guess well somebody must but i have not heard any speculation on any of these people like to speculate about this and that. I've heard nothing in regards to Trump's vice president. Sarah Huckabee? Sarah Huckabee would be good, except they would be like, oh, look, he's taking a press secretary and making her vice president. Well, she's also, I guess, the governor of Arkansas,
Starting point is 02:12:41 so maybe that's something. But Sarah Huckabee would be great. Then the only, Vivek? Actually, calling, no, calling Sarah Huckabee, I think, is a good call. I like that. But she's, of course, not chimed in. I haven't heard anything from the Huckabee camp. He's got his own show, the old man does.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Vivek could be a goofball vice president. What was Pence? He was a disc jockey. They threw him in there. Pence was just a... They were hedging their bets with Pence, hoping for the best, and got Pence. We have quite a lot to talk about in our donation segment. People decided, hey, I want a PhD before this ends,
Starting point is 02:13:31 and I want to talk a lot about it. In case you hadn't. Yes, this is the worst group. The last-minute Charlies. Ooh, last-minute Charlies. This is a new thing. So they're all last-minute Charlies, because they decided at the very last minute, they could have a new so they're all last minute charlies and they can't because they decided at the very last minute they could have done this weeks ago
Starting point is 02:13:48 where's this but they come at the last minute it's a huge list massive yeah and they all are less so last minute charlies are the most talkative when they could but we're going to edit on the fly whereas if they'd done this a week ago or two weeks ago, we'd probably read the whole note. Where does this come from, last minute Charlie? It's got to go back to the 30s or some cartoon probably in the comic. Maybe Charlie Chaplin? Charlie Chaplin? Last minute Charlie?
Starting point is 02:14:20 No, definitely not Charlie Chaplin. Charlie? Charlie's last name. Definitely not Charlie Chaplin. But before we do that, we have a couple of important business things we need to take care of. One is the word of the year. Merriam-Webster is keeping it real this year. The dictionary company says authentic is the word of the year.
Starting point is 02:14:43 It's based on large numbers of searches for the term and its meaning. Runners-up, influenced greatly by news events, included deepfake, coronation, and indict. I wish indict had won. Indict? Indict would have been much better. It's the word of the year, indict. No, instead it's authentic. What do you think people have been searching for when they're looking? And why do you need a definition of the word authentic?
Starting point is 02:15:09 Are you a moron? That's what they said, is based upon searches for definitions. It could be lies. Oh, you think? Merriam-Webster? Lies? And then the last thing,
Starting point is 02:15:23 which is cropping up, and I think we're going to be hearing more of this this um and it came through a kind of a roundabout way i'd heard the term before because i knew that amsterdam has implemented this amsterdam run by a socialist mayor uh but extremely socialist mayor it's called the donut economy have you heard of this called the donut economy. Have you heard of this term, the donut economy? No. So the donut economy, I think... If we have policemen out there, they may have heard of it. Wow.
Starting point is 02:15:55 Actually, I have a... Wikipedia has a definition. A visual framework for sustainable development shaped like a donut or life belt. And Amsterdam has implemented this. It's called the Amsterdam City Donut, the donut economy. And it stems from a lady, Kate Raworth,
Starting point is 02:16:19 who invented this word. And she's doing the circuit now because, of course, she wrote a book about it. And everyone's talking, oh, the donut economy. I think it will catch legs. I think it's got legs. Oh, the donut. I don't think so.
Starting point is 02:16:31 Ah, really? Well, my first initial impression was about the police having a donut. Well, would you... I mean, that's a deal killer. Would you like to hear her explain the donut economy? Oh, yeah, sure. Tell me about your donut. Tell me the inspiration behind the donut economy? Oh, yeah, sure. Tell me about your donut. Tell me the inspiration behind the donut.
Starting point is 02:16:46 And in a nutshell... Tell me the inspiration behind the donut. I see it's falling apart already. What the donut means. So the donut I offer you is the only one that actually turns out to be good for us. It's incredibly healthy because it's a vision for thriving life.
Starting point is 02:17:01 But yes, think of a donut, the kind with a hole in the middle. And think of humanity's use of Earth's resources radiating out from the center of that picture. This means that the hole in the middle of the donut is a place where people are left falling short on the essentials of life. That's where people who don't have the resources for health and education, for housing and security, for income and voice are falling short. We want to leave nobody in the doughnut's hole. Now, you could say that was a very 20th century goal.
Starting point is 02:17:32 Increase our economies, grow GDP, and everyone will have the resources they need to meet their needs. So we have to add to this a very 21st century understanding that as we use Earth's resources, we come up against an ecological limit beyond which we must not go, because that is where we overturn and transform the life support systems. We depend on this living planet. We depend upon a stable climate and fertile soils and healthy oceans and thriving ecosystems and when economies seek to grow forever they undermine that delicate web of life do you understand it yet no she's full of shit whatever she's saying this is not going anywhere nice try lady i think i i'm telling, this is going places. No.
Starting point is 02:18:25 One more clip. Take a bite out of it. So the donut says, leave no one in the hole, but don't overshoot Earth's limits. And this is the goal we strive for. So the hole is that vortex in the middle where people plunge into
Starting point is 02:18:41 poverty and deprivation. The edges are the diseases of civilization or excesses harming the planet, using more than you need. This guy gets it. And forcing more people in the middle. So the fleshy part is the good part, the healthy part. If you had to describe the current state of the global donut and the current fleshy pot, is it a very thin one?
Starting point is 02:19:12 So the current state of the global donut is a double whammy crisis. Billions of people are falling short. Billions of people live in that hole in the middle. We know that billions of people don't have enough food to eat every day or have clean water. Many kids don't go to school millions of billions of people have no access to the most fundamental primary health care and at the same time collectively humanity has overshot at least six of the nine planetary boundaries we recognize on climate breakdown on land conversion on biodiversity loss on excessive fertilizer use so this is our
Starting point is 02:19:46 inheritance at the beginning of the 21st century and it is resulting from the deeply degenerative and divisive economic model that the 20th century led us into i'm telling you everyone's going to be talking about the donut economy because it's so convoluted and so retarded people will use it i love the global donut no one's gonna use it you want to do what you heard it here last you want to put five bucks on it i could take that out of the 500 you're gonna owe me shortly okay what do you mean what do you mean shortly what it was what so uh no i'm not betting on any of this betting on the show is a bad idea it means it tells the the producers that we got money to throw away all five hundred five dollars that's right throwing it away uh okay i'm telling you the global donut and it's a thing you can't
Starting point is 02:20:42 that will never end it's not like something that's it's got no end point well i'm just i'll put five bucks that by the end of now it's not even worth it's too much work to to create the the the boundaries around the bet yeah we don't we don't need to bet on it but i i have i have a good feeling about this oh you'll never hear it again amsterdam is amsterdam is the shining shining sparkle, the glaze on the global donut. Yeah, that glaze is not sugar. With that, I'd like to thank you for your currency. In the morning to you, the man who put the C in the last minute, Charlie's. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one and only Mr. John C. DeBora.
Starting point is 02:21:23 the other and the one and only Mr. John C. DeVore. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curley. In the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello, trolls. Joe Downs. The first thing.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Morning, guys. Joe Downs. Oh, man. Oh, no, no, no. 1745. We're failing. We're failing. Trolls are behind you. Yeah, they're failing. Trolls are deserting us.
Starting point is 02:21:46 Yeah, they're deserting us. They're deserting us left and right. I think they get sick of it. It was the donut. I apologize. The donut. You drove them off. I drove them off with the donut.
Starting point is 02:21:58 So sorry. By the way, we've driven a lot of people off in the past couple of weeks. Why is that? Oh, we wouldn't choose lot of people off in the past couple of weeks. Why is that? Oh, we wouldn't choose a side in Israel versus Hamas. Oh, yeah, that gets people worked up. Yeah, and I just want to say... We have a lot of people sending us notes saying it's the best shows ever. Well, I would say that we don't want to be liked.
Starting point is 02:22:18 We just want to be respected. Yeah, that's the ticket. That's right. That'll get us through Christmas. Yeah, but's the ticket. That's right. That'll get us through Christmas. Yeah, but I mean that. You will not goad us into it. We're not interested in your stupid social media fights. We're just deconstructing media, showing you what's happening.
Starting point is 02:22:38 It's all we do. Yeah, and we come up with some gems from time to time. Yeah, the donut being one of them. A topper. Thank you. Well, come on. We had a bagel. We had a donut.
Starting point is 02:22:51 You know. That's true. We got the breakfast foods are the theme for today's show. Breakfast foods are the theme. I want to thank the trolls for being here. We appreciate you. You always have interesting. You help us a lot. For sure. You help me a lot. So I appreciate you. You always have interesting, you help us a lot, for sure.
Starting point is 02:23:06 You help me a lot, so I appreciate it. I always have my eye on the corner. And I've developed this skill where sometimes it's just like, oh, there's something going on. I look over there and there's the troll room with the answer or something going on or a good segue. The trolls are important. It's a live studio audience.
Starting point is 02:23:26 People should try this more often. If you're doing a podcast, if you dare, you don't have to do editing, post-production. No, we don't do any of that. We also don't have cameras and sitting there with headphones. We are just two guys who have some expertise and we love sharing it with you. And the trolls are a part of that and we appreciate it. And it's good to troll here so you get it out of your system because it just goes away.
Starting point is 02:23:52 It goes away. It's true. You don't get in trouble. And you can sleep easily. It's like when you troll, troll in the troll room. That's why it's called the troll room. Dot IO, trollroom.io
Starting point is 02:24:02 or use a modern podcast app which you can get at podcastapps.com, which has a lot of cool features, including the live feature. You can get into Troll Room by going to noagendastream.com. It's the same thing as trollroom.io. It goes to the same place. But yeah, if you want to call noagendastream. Why do you say, why do you bring that up?
Starting point is 02:24:22 Because I went to it today to see why you weren't online. I was online. It was clean. Not when I went to it today to see why you weren't online. I was online. It was clean feed. Not when I went to No Agenda Stream. Oh, no. Okay, whatever. It was still there. Yeah, we had some issues connecting on clean feed.
Starting point is 02:24:35 Yeah, it's okay. We love clean feed. Just have to refresh. It is, it's good. Just have to, someone else, someone emailed me. How do you do that? That can't be just clean feed. I said, well, a lot of it's clean feed. And of course. How do you do that? That can't be just clean feed. Well, a lot of it's clean feed.
Starting point is 02:24:46 How do you do what? How do you create such a great sound between you and John? I said, 45 years of experience and clean feed. Clean feed is an element of it. Yeah, clean feed and 45 years of experience. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Probably the 45 years is more. It might. It might help a little bit. Anyway, you can always participate in that. We appreciate you being here, trolls. You can, of course, troll along if you want and post your memes at
Starting point is 02:25:17 noagendasocial.com, which luckily we have that going on today, so Sir Paul Couture can have the... I'm going to see if the art generator, because we won't need to talk about it, actually. Has he got it going yet? Let me check. Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 02:25:33 Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Seems like it's still a problem. That's not a good sign, typically, when it takes hours to bring something back from a hardware problem. Yeah, these systems are getting worse and worse over time. I hope he doesn't have to make a trip to the data center.
Starting point is 02:25:51 That would be bad. It's probably AI, you know, that attacked us. Call Jen. Tell her that we're having problems with the art generator. I'm sure we'll get some email submissions that we'll have no no it'll no it'll no no paul couture is managing on no agenda social.com and they'll tag us so we're it'll we'll be able to choose it right from there what we won't be able to do unfortunately is thank our artists by um critiquing them oh Oh, that's a shame. The only thing we can do, so we're value for value, which is what we've been throughout the duration of this program.
Starting point is 02:26:32 Oh, by the way, I did my interview with Mike Adams from Brighteon. Yeah, Mike Adams, who's the nature guy. No, I don't think he is the same guy. No, I looked it up. Oh, he is the same guy? He is. The guy who founded Brighteon is the same guy he's the the health ranger is that it yeah well he's a nice guy really he seems like a really nice guy and and uh and he was very knowledgeable and his uh his
Starting point is 02:26:58 partner there on the podcast todd he's a no agenda producer and he loves the show and had a lot to say about it but the cool and he hasn't show and had a lot to say about it. But the cool, and he hasn't released it yet, but at a certain point, I want to give him kudos, right? I said, by the way, Mike, you know, we talk about, you know, Brighteon often on the show. He says, you do? I say, it usually goes like this. John will say, where did you get that clip from, Brighteon? No, I usually say Rumble.
Starting point is 02:27:24 That's not true. I rarely, I rarely besmirch Brighteon. no i usually say rumble that's not true i rarely know brighty i rarely didn't be smirched brighty on only one that's not true it's a lie that's not only one is a really nutty clip that we both say that must be from brighty on he thought it was funny so anyway we appreciate him um so yes it's value for value uh we talked about that a lot uh which he thought was outstanding people really love this idea it's you know it's it's spreading it's become a term unto itself so instead of you know tipping or no no no value for value if you get any for v for v value for value.info if you get anything the four was it number four info. If you get anything. With a four. It was at number four. That's right, number four in the middle. If you get anything out of this podcast,
Starting point is 02:28:07 which we don't have behind a paywall, there's no tiers, no subscription, no Patreon levels. No secret shows. Secret bonus. No, what is it? Premium content. No, there's none. Premium content is,
Starting point is 02:28:19 premium content to me is the most insulting thing you can do as a podcaster. Yes. But next to going on Fox. I think it's basically insulting. People should note that. Yes. It is.
Starting point is 02:28:32 It's insulting. If you're listening to something and then they say, if you want premium content, subscribe to our Patreon. Yeah. Go to Locals. Hello, Scott Adams. Yes. It is insulting.. Yes, it is insulting. I agree. It's insulting.
Starting point is 02:28:49 So we don't insult you. In fact, we don't even insult you by calling you fans or audience or listeners. You are producers. And douchebags. Well, there are douchebags. And producers return value back to the show. And you do it in three ways, time, talent, or treasure. There's so many ways that people contribute to this program.
Starting point is 02:29:09 Boots on the ground, making art is one of them, of course. Giving us leads, information, making clips, making whoopee. And also promoting the show, hitting people in the mouth. There's many ways you can do that. And we love our artists. I wish we could critique all of them because we usually get, you know, these days close to 20 pieces of art that we want to talk about why we didn't choose it. So we'll just talk about the one that we did choose for episode 1611. We called that Podcast Pro.
Starting point is 02:29:41 Why do we title it Podcast Pro? I don't remember why. Was that it? podcast pro why do we title it podcast pro i don't even remember why was that because there was that we were mocking uh the term because somebody in indicated in one of our clips that you but we were playing it was long story but it was a mockery uh yes clearly a mockery. Yes, mockery. Now, the artwork was from Francisco Scaramanga, who is now two in a row. If he nails this next one, it's the hat trick. This is going to be hard. Well, there were many pieces to choose from,
Starting point is 02:30:15 and we chose kind of a, I would say, a compilation piece. There were probably about five good pieces in that group. There were. This was a compilation piece, which had, it had RFK Jr. Seal and Hawk. Which is the clincher, by the way. That's one of the reasons we picked this piece. That was the clincher. It was a cute little Ukrainian girl with a drone.
Starting point is 02:30:39 Then we thought, this has to be AI. Oh, totally. This cute girl. I would like to just scare a monger and say it's be AI. Oh, totally. This cute girl. I would like to just scare him on and say it's not AI. But I think he did compose it because it looks like there's a couple of pieces from, he maybe done a couple of pieces of AI and put them together. Possibly. Then he obviously put the title and the Korean Dvorak thing on himself with an overlay.
Starting point is 02:31:02 But I think the basic piece with the girl and the drone is is ai now the the seal and the hawk on the on the seal's head was hilarious so stupid just stupid yet cute yeah it had something i got pushback from people hey man falconing and is hawking is not uh is not a rich boy sport and i said well have you seen the video of rfk jr with his hawks it looked looked pretty douchey to me you know walking out in the field having your hawk destroy another animal in midair. I don't know. It didn't feel kind of weird to me. Well, it may be not a rich... Maybe most rich boys would never take it up and it might be more... Maybe I'm confused with falconing.
Starting point is 02:31:55 I guess falconing... It's the same thing. Well, falconing, some of those birds go for a million bucks in Saudi Arabia, in the desert. Well, if the birds go for a million bucks, then it's a rich boy's bird. I'm telling you, some of those birds go for a million.
Starting point is 02:32:09 For example, let's bring up our executive producer in residence, or Hollywood producer in residence, David Brunetti. He's actually made friends with a hawk, like a friend. Really? Yeah, a little hawk, baby hawk sat next to him. He's documented most of this on his Instagram. Oh.
Starting point is 02:32:27 A little baby hawk started hanging out with him. Oh, interesting. And as the hawk grew up, he'd come by and say hi every once in a while. I think he could turn that hawk into a falcon for falconing and it would maybe become worth a million. I predict the seal is in his future, in his pool. Seal's in the pool. Seal in the seal is in his future, in his pool. Seal's in the pool. Seal in the pool is coming up next. He's becoming an elitist.
Starting point is 02:32:50 Well, thank you very much, Francisco Scaramanga, and hopefully we'll, well, who knows? You might, as John said, it's going to be tough, but you could have a hat trick. There's only few who have done it. Then we hope we'll have, and we, of course, thanks to Paul Couture for running the no agenda art generator dot com for how many years 12 13 at least 10 well him and randy asher did a previous site which you've lost that was drupal
Starting point is 02:33:20 that was a headless drupal that didn't run very run very well. I think the Drupal came later. I think when Couture took it over, just Sol as a solo, I think he's the one who implemented the Drupal code. Ah, okay. But it became a new site, the old site, which has a lot of old art in it. Did we lost all that? I don't know. Well, I have a backup of up until about, was it maybe six weeks ago?
Starting point is 02:33:47 Believe me, there's plenty of art. Yeah, there's art. But it's sad when that happens, particularly on a show day. And don't sweat it, Sir Paul Couture. We love you. It'll work out. Don't worry about it. So then what is left is a long list of lengthy notes, but much appreciated because it's great for the show of um executive and associate executive producers and of course we have this was the wednesday was the last day
Starting point is 02:34:13 the last day for the triple bagger of a no agenda phd an official phd certificate the whole deal which begets you a instant night or instant dame and or a title upgrade and an executive producership and wow you know people just really came in at the last last minute charlie's last minute charlie's friday droves frank adjanzats i wonder if that's how you pronounce it. Adzinsatz. He's in Armidale, Victoria, Australia. And I haven't seen one of these numbers in a while. 1-2-5-6-8-7. There's got to be something up with that. Maybe that's what it takes to get to 1,000 since it's dollar-y dues.
Starting point is 02:34:59 He says, last day of PhD opportunity, something I would not miss. So a donation of 1-2-5-6-8-7, which also takes me to the official US dollar total to become Duke Frank. There you go. To be known henceforth as the Duke of Frankness. No jingles, just some revenue generating karma. Keep up the amazing work spreading the message
Starting point is 02:35:21 and evidence about how inept and compromised most of the mainstream media is today thank you you nailed it there that's exactly what we do regards uh frank oh ajin stat there you go pronunciation guide armadale victoria australia duke of frankness yes you shall be the duke in uh in momentarily and here's that karma you asked for, my friend. You've got karma. Robert Dawson, who happens to be in Taiwan, came in with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. And this took a while to get through. He was working on Zelle, and he did something. He finally got some money through using Capital One, going straight into the bank.
Starting point is 02:36:02 Oh, no. It was a week of work, back and forth and back and forth. So Jay was on that the whole time? No, I was actually. Oh, wow. Okay. So he got it in. And by the way, there will be some laggards.
Starting point is 02:36:18 There's a guy who said, there's some stuff that's going to come in the mail. It's going to be postmarked. It's going to be laced. So we'll have a few more of these. We course have enough phds for all we don't care no uh except for the long notes but luckily dawson didn't have a long note he says looking forward to taking a seat next to all the knights and dames and new hpsds at the illustrious round table i'll take a big portion of that mutton and meat. I'll bring high mountain oolong and the whole group
Starting point is 02:36:47 at the end of our twice weekly banquets. He probably has, he's in Taiwan, which has terrific food. Great oolong. He's having banquets twice a week. Cheers, John and Adam. Thank you for all the bottom of my heart and my wife's bottom too. Here's to the next 16 years.
Starting point is 02:37:03 Karma all around. All right. Karma all around. All right. Karma all around. Thank you very much, Robert Dawson. You've got karma. Karma and oolong. Derek Highbrink, Plymouth, Minnesota. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
Starting point is 02:37:14 ITM, thank you for your media deconstruction. No agenda has kept me company for over 10 years on long car rides and long distance runs. Please knight me, Sir Derek, protector of Star Lake. I'm looking forward to checking the graduate degree box in the next census. Yeah, I guess. Is there a box for that? I guess there is a box for that.
Starting point is 02:37:37 Must be. Way to go. I like it. Jingles F Cancer Karma for all listeners. You've got karma. Karma for all listeners. You've got karma. I checked the box because I thought that's what you meant. That's right, man.
Starting point is 02:37:56 Pluma. One, one, one, one, one, one. Rhoa Dix. It's a Rhoa Dix. Yes, a big Rhoa Dix. Lots of ground to cover today. Forgive the lengthy note. I'm a proud monthly supporter, as everyone should be, all caps,
Starting point is 02:38:15 and grateful is the common word to accurately describe what is gained through your tireless devotion to the process of production quality and the unparalleled lessons on deconstruction. Wow. As a lifelong student, I'm thrilled to receive the No Agenda PhD, executive producer, etc. Hook up my soul sister, Kelly Rego, with 11111,
Starting point is 02:38:31 that's the $111.11 of producer credit for her upcoming 40th birthday. You can keep track of that. On January 4th, I hope she's on the list. I don't know. This is a nightmare for Jay
Starting point is 02:38:40 to put this thing together today. No kidding. Other people would have quit. And please decree me as Pluma Dameame of the feathered whales oh it's a her oh nice pluma it's a her pluma's a her by trade i've worked in radio film tv festivals and events for more than a decade i've held a creative producer role in a bent toward projects that raise consciousness and help us all become better humans, which appears to be a lifelong mission. I'm between projects now and a very inspiring gig in Saudi Arabia that is at a standstill.
Starting point is 02:39:11 So I'm putting my faith in some sweet pagan jobs, karma. I'm glad you mentioned pagan jobs, karma. We have a number of people that refuse karma because it's pagan. Although it's not really, in this case them it's no agenda yeah uh divine assignment from the hui shores of hawaii she's in hawaii mahalo nui loa for your courage put uh kelly rego on the birthday list and give her a biscuit they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Got that? Gem and bolt mezcal at the round table. Hold the fruit. Alright, here's your
Starting point is 02:39:49 monk karma. You've got karma. I forgot about that one. We have Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, our boob man. What about Kirk? I'm sorry, we got We have Kevin McLaughlin, Concord, North Carolina, our boob man. And he comes. What about Kirk?
Starting point is 02:40:07 I'm sorry. We got Kirk Pettis. It scrolled past him. The spreadsheet. I'm sorry. Kirk Pettis, Hopkins, Minnesota. 1,100. Thank you, John and Adam.
Starting point is 02:40:16 J-O-N. Truly the best podcast in the universe. The last 11 years has ingrained inspiration and reverberation. The PhD has triggered my vanity and forced the procrastination. Hey, made another rhyme. King me, king me, knight me as Sir Rain, the kingmaker PhD. Karma for all. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:40:40 So Kevin McLaughlin decides to come in, and I would have never seen him as a last-minute Charlie since he's very consistent. He is. Concord, North Carolina, 1080. He's got boob in there. 10808, which is a PhD with a boob donation incorporated. And a twist. He wants cancer karma for all those who need it.
Starting point is 02:41:02 Could you please squeeze the melon mix by Sound Guy Steven to the end of the show? And we did that. Archduke of Lunar, 1612. You bet, boy. You've got karma. Then we have BioLife member Drury. Oak Grove, Missouri, 1,044. Sirs, you both always make my day
Starting point is 02:41:28 when listening. My wife is so sick of me sitting with my earpods on giggling to myself. I've had the show on in the car many times. Make her listen. I've had the show on in the car many times during our constant travel. She just doesn't get it. Oh well, her loss.
Starting point is 02:41:44 I figure. i've been a listener since episode 104 i did go back and listen to the previous 103 episodes as well i don't remember what the name of the show was i listened to that mentioned your podcast but it was a jack love or something like that who was at the time a regular on alex jones a regular alex jones guest from austin tex. He was copying your value for value system. That's not copying. That is open source. We want people to move to this. It's the only way forward, the only way. I was so intrigued by this way of doing business that I had to listen in. I'd say in a roundabout way, my donations are an Alex Jones donation. He's always right,
Starting point is 02:42:21 by the way, even though I no longer listen to him unless adam is a guest i would humbly ask to become sir curl the wagons protector of the missouri ozarks from moberly south to branson this is definitely the most beautiful part of the country of ours i've set in place a plan that allows no agenda listeners oh yes uh the opportunity to visit the ozarks please uh release this email to No Agenda Nation. It's noagendareservations at gmail.com. noagendareservations at gmail.com.
Starting point is 02:42:51 And any reservations of his properties will be discounted 60 to 70% if you email him. We've seen his properties. They're nice properties in the Ozarks.
Starting point is 02:43:00 If you're looking for a trip there, then definitely hit him up. And he wants the Jingles fisting nuts and the whole load. I got that for you. Just a little bit. John, tell us your peeve about the fisting
Starting point is 02:43:11 method of eating snacks on an airplane. I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying and I think it will result in fights breaking out because it's just so annoying to watch. Guy takes his bag of peanuts and he throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist around the nuts around the nuts i'm gonna give you the whole load today
Starting point is 02:43:34 there you go it's a little too long it's not quite a jingle so there you go man thank you matt leibich uh in Rimrock, Arizona. There's another one we had to go back and forth again. He wanted to do a direct deposit and managed to go through PayPal anyway. 1-0-3-3-dot-3-3. And that 3-3-dot-3-3 is the PayPal fees. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:43:59 I'll keep it short and sweet. I couldn't pass up the PhD from the guys who taught me so much. And I need a dedouche. You've been dedouched. I'll take the show credit and the PhD, but I'd like to pass the knighthood to my dad, John. Hopefully that got on there. Yeah, I think it did. God bless you both.
Starting point is 02:44:19 And no jingles, no karma. Thanks for your courage. And it's pronounced Lee-bick. Lee-bick. Not lie-bick. Lee-bick. Matt Lee-bick. Lee-bick. Matt Lee-bick. Justin Frank Polgar is in Santa Cruz, California.
Starting point is 02:44:30 One-oh-three-three and a penny. In the morning, Professors Curry and Dvorak, thank you for your dedication to this craft. Chocolate blessings to all Gitmo Nationals. Put those blessings in your mouth at yescoco.com. Yescoco.com. Yescoco.com. That's Coco with a C-A-O. ITM gets you 11% off.
Starting point is 02:44:51 I earned my bachelor's degree in introspective humanistic behavior from UC Santa Cruz. Yes, I created the major. I've spent the last 15 years making chocolate and rehearsing reality, not for the greater good, but for the greatest great. God wins. After thousands of hours of amygdala squashing on the 333rd day chocolate and rehearsing reality not for the greater good but for the greatest great god wins after thousands of hours of amygdala squashing on the 30 333rd day of 2023 a phd in media deconstruction is the next obvious yes can't wait to hear adam's motivational commencement speech
Starting point is 02:45:17 for mine it's going to be a long one for my knighthood i should be known as sir yes sir for the feast please have durian uni and my hot wife on a platter i'll bring the chocolate for jingles it's a good time for the shape-shifting jews uh jcd's ants and pasta glock you're asking for a lot my friend hold on a second it's uh ants oh man it's all going to be short pieces of it because this would be by itself six minutes if we played all of it. Nice fade, Curry. I got ants. Man, I can't find it.
Starting point is 02:46:21 I got ants. I'm gonna shoot you in the face with my noodle gun, you racist piece of shit. I got my pasta glock locked and loaded. There we go. These are not jingles. These are mixes. Yeah, these are not jingles, people. I will mention this, since he did mention it, about getting a, he made his own major.
Starting point is 02:46:50 At the University of California system throughout the state, you can make up your own major. Really? And you just go to your counselor, counselor will put together the courses you need. Oh. And so you could get a degree in media deconstruction from Cal Berkeley if you,
Starting point is 02:47:05 if you wanted to, but you know, just you get one from the no agenda show for less money and Cal Berkeley, it'll cost you $150,000. Sir. Midnight of the rivers in Pensacola, Florida, one Oh two,
Starting point is 02:47:19 two dot five, two PhD with a small duck, duck, gray duck donation. Minna snow top producers will understand. Please give me a title change to sir. Jason rivers and some F cancer karma. Thank you for your courage.
Starting point is 02:47:33 Thank you for your courage. You've got karma. Sir. Don with a thousand 13 and a swazzling off at the end. 69 cents. I went to college for eight years from 1998 to 2006, earned five bachelor's degrees, a doctorate wasn't available for my field of interest. They've been completely worthless in my professional life. Sounds about right. Listening to the best podcasts in the universe for the last 16 years has provided far
Starting point is 02:48:03 more education and the lifelong value than college ever could even the alcohol and drugs part i threw my diplomas away many years ago but i will proudly hang the no agenda phd on my office wall i'd also like to say happy birthday to my smoking hot mill fiance dame audra of lego land who celebrates 45 trips around the sun December 1st. Love you most, baby. Unfortunately, she needs to be called out as a douchebag. Douchebag. For not donating for nearly two years. Well, that's not real. Douchebag is someone who has never donated,
Starting point is 02:48:35 so you're kind of harsh on your lovely lady there. She says, Baronette sounds too feminine for the savage beast of a man I am, so until I reach baron status, I humbly request a title change from Sir Don to Dr. Don so she can brag about marrying a doctor. Can you please play the French Bulldog F-35 Goat Screams capped with the R2-D2 relationship karma?
Starting point is 02:48:58 Oh my goodness. Okay. It's not exactly the way you call it. i can do some of that i think yes i can you've got karma. I'm Scott Clark from Hudson Oaks, Texas, wherever that is. 101-01-1010. Please de-douche.
Starting point is 02:49:40 You've been de-douched. Please call out my douchebag nephew, Ty Walker. Douchebag. He says, I think you need to have something worse than a douchebag nephew, Ty Walker. He says, I think you need to have something worse than a douchebag. You should use it for people like my douchebag nephew, Blake Walker. So is that another douchebag? Who didn't have the common courtesy to hit me in the mouth. Minor switcheroo. Please credit $5.
Starting point is 02:50:04 You do all the accounting for Ty Blake. I don't want douchebags at my house for the holidays. I'm keeping the thousands for my knighthood and PhD. Please knight me, Sir Viper 515. You'd like a Parrot's Bay Coconut Rum 90 and a Barks Red Cream Soda and West Milton, Ohio Fireman's Waffles. You only get two at the roundtable. We'll give you all of them. Jingles, whooping with the Constitution Sharpton,
Starting point is 02:50:31 and hoping for a no-exit strategy, M. Scott Clark. Now get out there and whoop Obama's butt! Ooh! It's a slide whistle mix. I forgot about that. Oh, my God. Jeez.
Starting point is 02:50:56 Kill it. R-E-S-P-I-C-T. What, you got somewhere to be? No, I'm here. Then we have Jack Ash. Snohomish, Washington. 1,003 and 33 cents. That's a great name.
Starting point is 02:51:14 Jack Ash. In the morning, gents, I've been meaning to donate for a while now, but kept putting it off as I've been meaning to put a note together with a little insight slash boots on the ground on a few things y'all have mentioned over the last several months I've been listening more earnestly i heard adam on rogan a few years back and listened sporadically until early this year anyway this is not that note thank you just bugging you guys for a title and another sheepskin i'd like to known as sir jack ash pronounced uh as one word akin to jack ash yeah i got it wandering it. Wandering Sasquatch of the Gardena, Snohomish,
Starting point is 02:51:46 and Watauga Valleys. Hereafter, the monikers Jackass or That Damn Sasquatch will suffice. Aside from the standard fare, I'd like Kiwilango Burger from Bareback Grill, Pizza Port Beer Buddies,
Starting point is 02:52:02 Jagger Fries fromred's rivertown alehouse and apex ipa from sound to submitting brewing squash at the round table you only get two don't do these things they're just doing it to this is you're a narcissist but we love you uh oh but o x o o by o to more closely match adam's five by 5 how I see it when he says 5 by 5 in my shorthand, no jingles, no karma thanks again gents, thank you Jack Ash so long Jack Ash Jack Ash
Starting point is 02:52:34 Chris Fosgate 1000, parts unknown, congratulations on making it to 1611 well, it's 1612 now no agenda is the only source of news I can stand these days Congratulations on making it to 1611. Well, it's 1612 now. No agenda is the only source of news I can stand these days. So very glad that you both invest your time in superior media deconstruction skills. Thanks for all you do.
Starting point is 02:52:56 Night, me, Sir Chris. Night of the Kansas City real estate. No jingles, no karma. There you go. There's a note. That's a note. How about this one, though? Joel Hanson from Modesto, California, 1,000. That's a note.
Starting point is 02:53:01 How about this one, though? Joel Hanson from Modesto, California, 1,000. Sir Schmoll of the Skinny White Guys, Keystone Light and Kibble for my noble steeds. You guys rock. Thank you for your courage. Good note. That's what I call a good note. Andy Cracciolo in Phoenix, Arizona, which is also where they put a lot of people in witness protection.
Starting point is 02:53:26 Oh, really? ITM, gentlemen, it's been over a year since my last donation. It almost sounds like time since my last donation. Anyhoo, life has been tragic and all over the place, but I won't bore you with that information. I just wanted to wish you two a belated Thanksgiving. Have an amazing end of year. You two deserve a lot more than you've ever received for all the hard work and entertainment you provide.
Starting point is 02:53:52 Thank you so much for everything. I have no idea what my current title is. Last was Baron Crack, ruler of Arizona and Cabo Baby, but I think with this, I hopefully get a PhD, and then if I'm late, then enjoy the spoils. Extra mutton and meat, please.
Starting point is 02:54:07 And the F-35 gold screen. Karma. Gold screen. You've got... Karma. Sir Dave, the reformed baronet, 1,000. What a bargain. Removing the douchey guilt of overdue V for V and a PhD. Can't pass this up.
Starting point is 02:54:26 This also makes me a baronet, Sir Dave, the reformed baronet. If that's a title change, I request the Bob Dylan. The titles are a change in intro. You got it. Thanks for the very best media deconstruction. Six hours a week. No jingles, no karma, Sir Dave, the reformed baronet. Hmm. Robin Robson. Or Robeson, I guess. Robeson. 1,000. John, I'm near Sposum. He's in Canada. I'll say he's from Sposum. Yes.
Starting point is 02:54:52 He always gets a laugh in Canada. I've told the story before. I was given my first speech and it was in Vancouver and the guy comes up to me and says, you want to get a laugh? I said, yeah. He says, just somehow work in the town name of Spasm. I got a huge laugh. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 02:55:09 I shall henceforth be known as Sir Robin of the Whack, Chilliwack, B.C. Get it? Scandinavia. Please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. I couldn't pass up this chance to become a Ph.D. Knight. Rogan donation. Rogan donation. Rogan donation.
Starting point is 02:55:27 Anonymous comes in with a switcheroo. Adam and John, hope this finds you well. $1,000. I'm writing as I'm making a $1,000 donation to the show in honor of my friend Tom. Tom introduced me and several others to No Agenda in 2019. We haven't been here since the beginning, but we have been here through COVID, Ukraine, and all the distractions. Tom's wife went to heaven a few weeks ago at the much too young age of 43.
Starting point is 02:55:50 Oh, man. Leaving behind Tom and their three wonderful kids. I'm sure he has, it sounds like he has a great set of friends and community around him. So in memory of Tom's wife, we are making the donation such that Tom forever claims his seat at the No Agenda Roundtable and knows the support of all the knights, damesames and douchebags that make up the no agenda family tom will be known as sir thomas lord of the ham radio hobbits no karma please but we do wish for a dedouche you've been dedouched and we also request a full-throated That's Bullcrap from John. That's bullcrap!
Starting point is 02:56:29 That is one of the best ones you've done. That may be a show opener. Well, they can use that for their ringtone. Do people still do ringtones? Is it even called a ringtone anymore? Yeah, I think some people do. One that's the most annoying is the people that have the phone ring, that lousy, old-fashioned ring. And most people do. One that's the most annoying is the people that have the phone ring, that lousy old-fashioned ring. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:47 It's just annoying. Yeah. Remco de Vriescher. De Vrijer. De Vrijer. De Vrijer. De Vrijer. De Vrijer.
Starting point is 02:56:56 In Penis, Rotterdam. Pernis. Pernis. Oh, I thought it says penis. Yeah, no, it says there's an R in there. Pernis. Oh, 1 thought it says penis. Yeah, no, it says there's an R in there. Pernis. Oh, 1,000. I missed it.
Starting point is 02:57:09 About two years ago, I hired Dame Tutola following a tweet about her being fired for not getting the shot. Tutola. She immediately hit me in the mouth, and I never missed the show since. sense. I'm glad that I'm no longer a douchebag. I'm no longer douchebag Remco, and I would like to be known as Sir Remco, Knight of Tevisa and the Spanish Refuge of Ribera Debra. I expect Dame Tutohola to change my name accordingly on her phone contacts. she now has me listed as douchebag remo no jingles but health karma for everyone who needs to keep good work so remco knight of tavisa and spanish refuge of ribira de bra from penis the netherlands penis the netherlands you've got karma and the ducks go crazy oh look at this we have www.wilddirtco.com hello for my instant i please dub me survivor of still waters and dedouche
Starting point is 02:58:14 you've been dedouched and because i have this opportunity i'm offering all no agenda producers 333 dollars off any land purchase as well as $330 switcheroo donation in your name if you go to www.wilddirtco.com and buy some land. We specialize in super rural and desirable parcels of raw land, homestead, or bug out, all with payment plan options. How about that? I got to look at that myself. Well, that's a business. I love the bug out.
Starting point is 02:58:46 I need some bug out land. Bug out land. Hey, I'm going to go bug out. You got to bug out, man. We had a very busy season. Our running low on inventory. Oh, while stocks last. The 333 plus 333 dealer, wilddirtco.com is open to you from now until eternity.
Starting point is 02:59:02 Thank you for your service. P.S. A P.S.A. Really? We are currently in a golden age of memes, and some of the best curated memes are found on No Agenda Social. However, fellow memers, we can do better. No likes and no boosts means your post is subpar and you failed to hit the mark.
Starting point is 02:59:20 Let's up our game, boys and girls. Stop posting trash. I'm with you on that. That's exactly what I wanted to say. Well, that was well put. I want to look at wilddirtco.com. While you do that, I'm going to go to Vaus. Vaus.
Starting point is 02:59:34 Vaus. Viscount of Hamilton. 1,000. Greetings from the beautiful Westfield, Indiana. That's where he's from. This is the Viscount of Hamilton and the two pennies supporting your excellent program. Signing up for the PhD for myself and also the Instadame. My better half is another one of those split donations.
Starting point is 02:59:56 And obtain a PhD for her as well. Ah, he does have a second one here from the Viscount of Hamilton for Dame Missy. Also $1,000. He's put $2,000 in. It should be at the top. She is certainly worthy of having listened since the beginning. Hitting me in the mouth is going to be a surprise early Christmas gift for her. For now, let her be Dame Missy for the ceremony,
Starting point is 03:00:14 and she can let you know if she prefers another name. God willing, we will be at the Indy meetup on Monday. Monday, Monday, Monday. Monday. So no J, no K, and God bless you both. Yours truly, the Viscount of Hamilton and the Two Pennies. So the Wild Dirt Co. Over seven years in the business of flipping wild dirt.
Starting point is 03:00:39 Fantastic. Anonymous with a thousand. Can I please request Ben Shapiro? Oh, my God. Do we have that? That's not a general. I know with a thousand. Can I please request Ben Shapiro? Oh my God. Do we have that? That's not a general. I know that we do. When I read this note, I said, I don't know about that. Oh my God.
Starting point is 03:00:53 No, that's not him. That's Ben. No, that's not him. No, that's not him. I don't think we have Ben Shapiro doing that. Oh my God. No, that's not Ben Shapiro. Is this one Ben Shapiro? Oh my God. No, we don't have ben shapiro doing that i don't think oh my god no that's not ben shapiro is this one ben shapiro oh my god no we don't have ben shapiro sorry we don't have it logged no i don't i don't think we've ever had that one that's just that's just the bottom line we've never had that uh
Starting point is 03:01:18 followed by a space force from trump yes space force that. I would like to be known as Sir Big A, please, for my night name. Thank you for everything you do. I listen to No Agenda every Tuesday and Thursday. Oh, that's interesting because we do it on Sundays, but it's fine if you listen to it on Tuesday. Thank you. Where is he from? He might be in Australia. He doesn't say.
Starting point is 03:01:39 Well, he probably just listens to the Sunday show on Tuesday. Yeah, I guess. Okay, Mike D's up and he's in for $1,000, and he says, Just like college, I have waited to the last minute to turn in my paperwork. There you go. At least he's honest about it. Yeah, I like that. I surely wanted to make the deadline for the no-agenda PhD in media deconstruction.
Starting point is 03:01:58 I'm already more proud of this PhD than I am of my bachelor's in business from Kansas State. Go ahead and de-douche me. You've been de-douched. At the round table, I have what Adam's having along with a glass of tepid water. Oh, he's a podcaster. And a wine bottle of whatever John is drinking. Please knight me, Sir Mike D of the 7 Billion Rising. I'm a real estate broker in Texas. Oh, he's in Texas. Going on 20 years in the last few years, I concentrated more on creative financing than buying and selling property, leaving the banks out of it. There you go. 7billionrising.org. He's got a story to tell. I thank you two for showing up for us with an amazing podcast twice a week. Your media deconstruction is tops. I hope you two for showing up for us with an amazing podcast twice a week. Your media deconstruction is tops.
Starting point is 03:02:46 I hope you never exit this fight. Much love for your leadership and everyone part of the No Agenda Nation. From my new homestead in Kyle, Texas. Where's Kylie? Kylie, Texas. No jingles with her. Kyle. Kyle, Texas, yes.
Starting point is 03:02:59 Thank you, Mike. Nicholas Schroeder, 1,000. Salutations, Professors Curry and Dvorak. Having previously obtained knighthood and the title of Sergeant of Arms, Protector of the Round Table under a pseudonym used in creative writing exercises, I must now submit my tuition paid in full for the education received over the years from this honorable institution. I am beyond ecstatic to have officially obtained my doctorate, and I'm looking forward to the benefits that such a prestigious title will afford me.
Starting point is 03:03:25 I'm appreciative for all the work you have done in the advanced and somewhat controversial field of media deconstruction. Thank you for your courage and know that I regard this amount paid in my poverty but a fraction of the value received over the years, keeping us safe and sane from all of the games that the corporate media plays on the public
Starting point is 03:03:42 for the benefit of the highest bidder. Well put. I'm forever in your debt for the knowledge and the prompting to better myself I renewed it. I think you have. I hope to continue paying it back and forward in any way possible. While I won't share my Brazilian hottie, I will bring cachaca to the graduation party to share with my... Cachacha. Yeah, cachacha. What is cachacha?
Starting point is 03:04:13 It's a white, it's like a white rum, only it's more like the Brazilian version. We got that. And it's got a very distinctive flavor that is made with sugar cane. But it's got a really different taste. It's delicious. Excellent. Cachacha is here. And I will share that with Mike.
Starting point is 03:04:35 Cachacha. Cachacha. I know. Penis Rotterdam. Penis Rotterdam. Cachacha. Penis. To the graduation party to share with my cohort of fellow producers for this episode,
Starting point is 03:04:46 73s, respectfully deconstructed, Nicholas J. Schroeder, 73s to you, Kilo 5, Alpha Charlie. Charlie, you did not add your call sign. I'm not okay. We'll let you slap. Onward with Sir Pants in Brookfield, Wisconsin. Sir Pants actually came in twice with $1,000. Oh, my. Here he is for the first time And Sir Pants actually came in twice with $1,000. Oh, my. Here he is for the first time.
Starting point is 03:05:06 Sir Pants PhD donation. Go EGUN Direct. EGUNDirect.com. Check it out. Best weapons dealers on planet Earth. They've got every gun. They've got a lot of good guns on that site. Worth looking at.
Starting point is 03:05:22 I'm going over the guns guns with jay talking about him you know there's this thing that's a 22 what sir pants in brookfield wisconsin comes in with another thousand with a switcheroo phd for sir ass crack nice he's the brother of sir pants give him some gentlemen farming karma and that's what we'll grab you've got karma all right then we have that was kind of cool we have quint y newell with a thousand in the morning gents phd me please no jingles no karma but plenty of love and light to no agenda nation love you twos from quint thank you and i'll do I'll do Hendry Cocosoli, $1,000 no note. And Resolvent Technologies, Inc., $1,000 no note. Double up karma for you guys.
Starting point is 03:06:13 Thank you so much. You've got karma. Danielle Lawson in Knight Me Sir Love, $1,000. Knight Me Sir Love and Baron of Bay Ridge in Kings County, New York. Any insights about pawns in the game or Whitney Webb books? Give me a Mo Karma jingle, please. Yeah. You got other things to do with your time.
Starting point is 03:06:43 You've got. Mo Karma. You've got other things to do with your time. You've got... MoCom? Aaron... Bojorquez. Bojorquez. Mission Viego, California. Thousand, please knight me. Knight Filippilo of the Barburia Plains.
Starting point is 03:07:01 Barburia, yeah. Barburia. Verdolagas with... What is it, John? Go ahead, just pronounce it for me already. No, go. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:07:13 Verdolagas. I mean, I don't know what it is. Verdolagas with pork and green sauce and a glass of cold tapachi? Tapash? Tapachi? If I can't pronounce it,
Starting point is 03:07:24 it's hard for me to serve it. Yeah, well, you're out of luck. This is the way they talk in Mission Viejo. That's, oh, that's the problem. Okay. Thank you, Dr. Aaron Arnaldo Boyarquez. Boyarquez. This is tough.
Starting point is 03:07:43 Yeah. There you go. I'm not sure either. So Yogi. That's easier. In West Richland, Washington, a thousand. By the way, we should mention this is excessive.
Starting point is 03:07:55 It is. It's very abnormal, but we love it. Because it'll pay the bills until February, March. We don't even start getting donations again till March. Oh, no. It's going to be... It goes dead.
Starting point is 03:08:08 It'll be dead. It'll be dead. I was waiting to get home from California road trip to see if there was enough cash left over to get myself a PhD. Yeah. On the last day, while heading home, we went to our favorite coffee joint. And what was handwritten on the cup lids but the number 33. There you go. I shit you not.
Starting point is 03:08:31 The writing was on the lid. Oh, no. The universe was telling me to get that PhD. Thanks for all you do in keeping me in my smoking hot dame sane. Peace and love to you both. Sir Yogi, night of the carnival. Midways, can I get a goat karma for everybody? You've got karma.
Starting point is 03:08:51 And we have another thousand from Sir Gooch of RVA. Gooch! No jingles, no karma, just a PhD. Thank you. No exit plan, please. You got it. We're still here. Joe Acton, Maine.
Starting point is 03:09:07 1,000. I've been listening for a few years, and I haven't missed the show since I started listening, but I have to admit I was starting to feel guilty about being a douchebag. Kept thinking I should probably take advantage of the PSD program because I always wanted some higher education credentials. And it became a night at the same time. How could I pass this up? But I just couldn't higher education credentials. And it became a night at the same time. How could I pass this up? But I just couldn't pull the trigger.
Starting point is 03:09:27 Then on the 33rd day of the year, I looked at my phone and it had 3,333 unread emails. This was a sign. It was time to give back and do my part and hopefully keep you guys from finding an exit strategy. Please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. For Jingles, play some classic Sharpton F-35 Health Karma for everybody, and he'll be
Starting point is 03:09:53 knighted Sir Jolly the Brave of the Maine Mountains. R-E-S-P-I-C-T He finishes, he wants a bacon cheeseburger. Hey, hey. Be quiet during the karma. He wants... Be quiet during the karma. You've got...
Starting point is 03:10:14 Karma. You put this on your list. He wants a bacon cheeseburger and Chateau Latour. I wouldn't mind having one of those myself. Which year Chateau Latour should we have? Oh, okay. Let's make it a 2005. Okay.
Starting point is 03:10:33 Chateau Latour. Isn't that made by the Rothschilds? No, no. That's Mouton and Lafitte. Michael Halb or Halby. 1, halby 1000 no note get you a double up karma thank you very much you've got karma jonathan lang as we as we race to the end and we're getting a thousand humbly requesting a dedouching all-purpose jobs, Carmen. You've been de-douched. I do declare myself, sir, no please and a scholar
Starting point is 03:11:12 for those in the Memphis area keeping out for a meetup soon. Once you requested it, one of you requested a month or two back. Thank you for your courage. Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs karma we have uh scott mcnulty due to my and this is a thousand due to my affiliation with various secret societies which will henceforth never be mentioned again i had to wait until the ninth hour of the eve of the solar day of 333 in order to make my donation for obvious reasons when the moon is in the house of the sun's first light the seed is born we dive at dawn i was working at the canadian broadcasting corporation
Starting point is 03:11:57 cbc embedded in the news department i've been there for over a decade when the first global native ad for the un-led big pharma military industrial complex CoPro was launched. I lost my family and job to groupthink in that battle. Wow. They were all spellbound by the black magic of propaganda. The silver lining is that I no longer work at the Ministry of Truth. Since then, my field of art direction and graphic design have been requiring the jabs for jobs around here until only two months ago. In order to get by, I've been painting houses and playing guitar in the Toronto art rock band Fifth Project with a K. Wow.
Starting point is 03:12:33 That guy. Yeah, we love you for this. I like this guy. Fifth Project's latest EP, The Wolf, made it to number 23 across Canada on campus radio in 2023. If you love a warm embrace and a kiss to your third eye or female-fronted psychedelic art rock, you can pick up a copy of The Wolf during tomorrow Band Camp Friday and all proceeds will go to us. We're an independent band. We rely on value for value just like no agenda.
Starting point is 03:12:59 Search for Fifth Project with a K on bandcamp.com to have a listen. That's Fifth Project with a K. We're on all the socials, too. I've been listening to this. I love this note. We've been listening to No Agenda regularly since Adam's JRE debut. So this is long overdue. And this first time, de-douching.
Starting point is 03:13:16 You've been de-douched. Not only comes with a PhD, but a proper nighting, too. Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo! Once a WTC7, you'll go, yay. Oh, really? Jobs karma. That's not on my note.
Starting point is 03:13:32 Oh, shoot. My God. That wasn't even on my cell. That's a big note. It's a big note. Here we go. But the guy, I have to give anyone credit, who through, who's an art director that was so honest with himself that he figures, you know, you can make money other ways. But he'll go back into it.
Starting point is 03:13:55 He's obviously a talented person. WTC7 won't go away. Yay! Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for away. Yay! Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Yay! You've got karma. On the other extreme, we have Alex Orrish with $1,000.
Starting point is 03:14:17 No note. And so we get double up karma. You've got karma. Double up. Karma. Eric. Eric Hulbritter, South Ogden, Utah, a thousand in the morning as a successful professional procrastinator.
Starting point is 03:14:31 I'm finally funding my PhD tuition. Thank you for your courage. Oh, I'm sorry. Jingle requests. I'm going to come. I want to get rid of that one. It's so... I can't even find it half the time.
Starting point is 03:14:48 It's not... That's not what it is. It's Trump. It's Trump. Probably Trump something. Trump come. I can't find it. Jeez.
Starting point is 03:14:56 Hold on. Hold on. Stupid. I do not like this one. Trump come and then goat scream. Okay. I'm going to come. There you go.
Starting point is 03:15:09 You've got karma todd machera in uh looks like oh he's itm from behind the lines in chicago he's a thousand dollars thank you both for your service please knight me as todd zell, the unvaccinated. No jingles, no karma, not an anonymous donation. Proud to support you both. Thank you. James Bartles, 1,000. No location, but he's been a listener since episode number one. Thank you for all you do. Thank you, James.
Starting point is 03:15:37 Knight name, Sir Jim of KC Stagehands. Needs work, he says. What is this stuff? Aniracetam? stagehands needs work, he says. What is this stuff? Aniracetam? Aniracetam and bulletproof coffee for the roundtable. Jobs, karma, and goat for everybody. Jobs, jobs,
Starting point is 03:15:56 jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You suck. Karma. We have Meg Kenny. First time donation. She came with a thousand. I come to the No Agenda family in a roundabout way from the Glenn Beck program.
Starting point is 03:16:13 Oh, there you are. That does happen. Worked out. I was hit in the mouth by my best friend, Karen. I was taking a break from Glenn Beck, sometimes doom and gloom. But my friend was listening and heard Adam sounding a lot like me. Oh, or was it me sounding a lot like Adam? Either way, she knew right away you were my people. I was listening to your archives from 2020 to 21 and you do sound like me. So it only makes sense I should earn a doctorate in media
Starting point is 03:16:43 deconstruction. I look forward to your episodes and thank you both. And the Noah Jenner Nation for all you do. She must be Dame Kenny of the Megalodon. That's the giant shark. She'd like Guinness and medium rare tomahawk steak at the round table. And he's all hell breaking loose. Are you going to need a Bitcoin? You're all going to die and yay's all hell breaking loose. Cause you're going to need a Bitcoin. You're all going to die. And yay.
Starting point is 03:17:06 Stay strong. Yes. Uh, that's Manning. Yes. Okay. I got those for you. They're saying that all hell is going to break loose and you're going to need a Bitcoin.
Starting point is 03:17:18 We're all going to die. Yay. That's a good combo. That's an interesting combo uh sir let me make sure i've got your your rare tomahawk guinness and medium rare tomahawk steak well you're getting that i'm gonna go to sir henry he's in austin texas right around the corner from you the donation makes me a baron gives me a ph. I'm a happy man. Sir Henry, that's the note we like.
Starting point is 03:17:48 Yeah, we do like that. Andrew Herman, Edmonton, Alberta, Scandinavia, in the morning. John, thanks. My donation of $1,046.31, that's Canuck Bucks, please add me to the PhD in Executive Producership
Starting point is 03:18:03 and an instant knighting list, a douchebag. No more. Sir. Andrew Herman, Edmonton, Alberta, I guess I'll give him.
Starting point is 03:18:12 You've been deduced. Yeah. He'll get bumped up. Uh, Amy Thurman in Westfield, Indiana, six, six,
Starting point is 03:18:22 five. Greetings from Amy in Westfield, Indiana. Could not meet the podfather in December without first claiming my dame. Oh, she's going to be at the meetup. Yeah. My smoking hot husband, Sir Craig of the Dark Moon, hit me in the mouth years ago. I'm a better human for it. Please bestow upon me the title of Dame Amy of the Shining Sea.
Starting point is 03:18:42 I generally try to stay healthy by eating limiting carbs, fat, sugar, sodium. So at the round table I'd like to pay homage to my Indian roots. Indiana. Indiana roots, sorry. Indiana is named after Indians. And fortify my food-depraved soul by requesting a giant breaded pork tenderloin
Starting point is 03:19:00 and a chocolate miracle whipped cake. That'll do it. Thanks for all you for all you do god we've got some death bound here for you serpentine serpent serpentine sir lance interesting oh it's a switcheroo serpentine scarborough queensland uh australia 654.32 clips f cancer you've got karma we got that for you this is a switcheroo donation from sir pentine night of the recl the recliff peninsula i guess this donation of 1038 australian dollar reduce is for my father soon to be incinerated sir lance knight of the northern rivers oh that's just lovely we make sure we do that phoebe is going nuts please play him F Cancer and You've Got Karma jingles.
Starting point is 03:19:45 I know you can defeat this, Dad. We both enjoy your entertaining, informative podcast immensely. I'm hoping that I made it in time for a $1,000 Aussie dollar-a-do doctorate in Ph.D. media deconstruction for my dad. Yeah, of course. And here's your F Cancer. It works. for my dad. Of course.
Starting point is 03:20:04 And here's your F-cancer. It works. You've got it. Come here, Bubba. Come here. Karma. Good girl. Come here. John Kelber in Milwaukee.
Starting point is 03:20:15 Good girl. 333.33. ITM crackpot and buzzkill. After enjoying your shows on Black Friday and Cyber Monday, I had to donate value for value on Wednesday. I've appreciated the biweekly deconstruction since learning of your show on the Hireside Chats. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 03:20:33 Hireside Chat donation a couple of years back. Adam, in my first donation, I asked what your favorite conspiracy was, and you said you don't like them at all. So I'll rephrase. What conspiracy do you find the most interesting? Fake space? Hollow Earth? Operation High Jump? There's got to be something. John, I'm glad you brought back the 3x3 and hope to hear it more often. Jingles, Climategate, chemtrails, Obama sucking in soot. Thanks and enjoy the holidays, John. Yes, I would say Operation High Jump
Starting point is 03:21:05 is my favorite. To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate. 10 trails sucking in soot. Boom. Joanne, Fortune is in Weir or Weir, North Hampshire. 3 333 i've listened to you live for the
Starting point is 03:21:30 last year and a half and you've changed my life i've moved to the freedom state of new hampshire and new hampshire and i go to the meetups you two rock my world thank you and thank you for your courage and thank you joanne a very nice note Then we have Jackie Green, the famous guitarist in Orangevale, California. Oh, Jackie. Jackie. Jackie Green. 333. Love you.
Starting point is 03:21:51 Mean it. Perfect note. Not as good as Tyler Holm from Westminster, Colorado. First associate executive producer. 250. No notes. So you got to double up karma. You've got karma.
Starting point is 03:22:06 So that lets us end with Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado, 200. And she requests jobs karma and wants to tell you that for a remarkable resume that gets results, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. It's delicious. That's ImageMakersInc.com or just find Linda Lou Patkin under the show's producer list. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma.
Starting point is 03:22:38 That was quite funny. Well, thank you all very much. This has been quite the pre-Christmas surprise. And of course, everyone here who came in with the correct amount is going to get a PhD. It's a rather long list of nightings and PhDs, but I'm happy to do it. We love you for it. We have meetups to talk about as well. There's so much still going on in the No Agenda show. Don't hang up. still going on in the No Agenda show, but especially our executive and associate executive producers. Thank you for supporting us. We enjoy support from anybody. The whole point of Value for Value is you give us what the show delivers in value to you. That may just be $5 a month. And if that's all you can afford, we love you just as much and appreciate you you don't have to be an executive producer to help the show in fact if everybody if everybody gave just five dollars it would be
Starting point is 03:23:30 fantastic that never happened so we appreciate these execs and associate execs for paying it forward for others and of course enjoying their um their instant nights and dames and their phds um i'll get ready for get ready for all the ceremonies. John will take us through a very quick small list in the 50s. Yeah, there's a small list left over of people who just donated, which is what we're all going to get from now on. Sir Michael Raguse in Tustin, California, $100. Happy holidays, he says. Kevin McLaughlin does come in and conquer North Carolina with yet another $8008.
Starting point is 03:24:03 Unbelievable. What a great guy. Life is better with boobs, he says. True. Edward Owens, 8-0-0-8. He's in Alameda, the island of boobs. Diana, Dana, Dana Carroll in Laughlin, Nevada. Laughlin, 72-27. Craig Kohler in Evansville, Indiana, 65-02.
Starting point is 03:24:22 Sir Pitenom, 61, parts unknown. Jamie Buell in Vista, California, 6006. A boobs donation, small. In fact, here comes Kevin McLaughlin once again at 6006. Boobs are the reason bras were invented, he says. Surprise night, surprise night in Yukon, Oklahoma, 5444. Colleen Garrett in Cary, North Carolina, which is where, curiously, near Kevin McLaughlin, I believe.
Starting point is 03:24:57 Happy birthday to me. My gift to you, $54. Eric Hochul in Mulrose, Deutschland. We haven't heard from him for a while. And there he is. And there he is with the right spelling on his name. Yes. This is a spreadsheet.
Starting point is 03:25:10 Yes, beautiful. 52. Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa. 50.01. And here we go, wrapping it up with $50 donators. Starting with John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado, Sir Richard Gardner, I believe New York City, Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon,
Starting point is 03:25:32 Michael Elmore in Gastonia, North Carolina, Zev Green in Teaneck, New Jersey, David Steele in Mobile, Alabama, or Mobile, Jason Kaler in Bluffton. Indiana. Ray Howard in Kremling, Colorado. Kyle Schaper
Starting point is 03:25:51 in New Albany, Ohio. As opposed to Old Albany, Ohio. Julie Mendeo in Costa Mesa. Kyle Mann in Cincinnati, Ohio. Jill Woods in Ocean Grove, New Jersey.
Starting point is 03:26:10 Brian Locklear in Sugar Hill, Georgia. And last on our list, the inimitable Ryan Sharp in Huntsville, Alabama. I want to thank all these people for making this a great show. This is show 1612, and this will make up for a lot of slower shows coming. And thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers. Those titles are real and you can use them anywhere titles are recognized. Of course, that can be on your resume. It can be on your LinkedIn profile.
Starting point is 03:26:39 It's a good place to put it. Or if you don't have one and you might not, open up a profile on imdb.com it is completely valid you'll see many show business heavyweights there and a lot more added to today if you'd like to become a producer of any amount including under 50 which are never mentioned for anonymity reasons or please think of the sustaining donations which can be just a few dollars a month, a week, or whatever you want, go to devorec.org slash NA. And let me give everybody one last goat karma. You've got karma. And thank you for supporting No Agenda Show, episode 1612.
Starting point is 03:27:19 Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! Order! Shut up, slave! Shut up, slave! It's your birthday, birthday! On no one's channel! Yeah, we got lots of lists of lists. Birthdays today, Faith Ann Basore wishes Dave Basore I'm so much better celebrating the 28th. Tina Selby wishes Tylan Selby a happy birthday. Turned 33 on the 28th. Colleen Garrett celebrated yesterday.
Starting point is 03:28:10 Sir Don wishes his smoking hot milf fiance Dame Audra of Legoland a happy birthday. Turning 45 tomorrow. And Pluma says happy birthday to Kelly Rego. Turning 40 on January 4th. Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 03:28:25 It's your birthday, yeah! Come gather round, douchebag, producer and slave As we all thank your brothers and sisters who gave And some of them nights, some of them days For the titles are a change by request we bring in the bob dylan titles are a change and we have title changes for sank sir frank uh asenstadt who becomes duke of frankness sir midnight of the rivers becomes baronet sir jason rivers sir dave the reformed uh becomes a baronet he becomes sir dave the reformed baronet and sir Reformed becomes a baronet. He becomes Sir Dave the Reformed baronet.
Starting point is 03:29:05 And Sir Henry becomes a baron. All Don, M. Scott Clark, Jack Ash, Sir Fosgate, Joel Hanson, Andy Cacaricolo, something like that, Sir Dave, the Reformed Baronet, Robin Robson, Tom, Remco de Freyer, WildDirtCo.com, Viscount of Hamilton, Dave Missy, Anonymous, Mike D, Nicholas Schroeder, Sir Pants, Quint Y. Newell, Henry Cocosoli, Resolvent Technologies, Inc., Daniel Lawson, Aaron Borroquez, Sir Yogi, Sir Guccia of RVA, Joe, Michael Halby, Jonathan Lang, Scott McNulty, Alex Ulrich, Eric Halberter, Todd Massira, James Bartles, Margaret Kenny, Sir Henry, Andrew Herman, Amy Thurman, Sir Lanson, Sir Ask Crack. Welcome new No Agenda MD, PhD, just the society of the learned person. You got in just under the wire. We congratulate you and say from this point forward, go forth and spread the No Agenda word far and wide because we will not be silenced. We will not be deterred. The truth is out there.
Starting point is 03:30:27 Now go and find it. I'm glad I can retire this. Yeah, hopefully we missed anybody. I think we got everybody. I even have Jay texting me on the fly with some nights that had missed the list. So let's do them now that I have everything completed. Let's get up. This is my blade.
Starting point is 03:30:51 Here's mine. Get the bigger one. You take it, hold it, and just keep it. Okay. Well, that feels kind of good. Up on the podium, please. Pluma, Missy, Amy Thurman, Robert Dawson, Derek Heibrink,
Starting point is 03:31:06 Kirk Pettis, BioLife member Drury, Justin Frank, Polgar M., Scott Clark, Jack Ash, Robin Robson, Tom, Remco De Freyer, Viber, Anonymous, Mike D., Daniel Lawson, Aaron Borroquez, Joe, Jonathan Lang, Scott McNulty, Todd Massera, James Bartles, Margaret Kenney, Chris Fosgate, Joel Hanson, Sir Schmoll, Andrew Herman, and Lance.
Starting point is 03:31:32 All of you are about to become knights and dames of the NOAA General Roundtable. I am very proud to pronounce the KV as Sir Robert Dawson, Sir Derek, Protector of the Star Lake, Sir Rain, the Kingmaker PhD, Sir Curl, the Wagons Protector of the Missouri Ozarks from the Moberly South to Branson. Sir Yes Sir, Sir Viper 515, Wandering Sasquatch of the Gardenas, Nahomish, and Wataga Valleys. Sir Robin of the Whack Chili Whack, Scandinavia. Sir Thomas, Lord of the Ham Radio Hobbits. Sir Remco, Knight of the Tivissa and the Spanish Refuge of Ribeir de Ber. Sir Viber of the Stillwater.
Starting point is 03:32:08 Sir Big A. Sir Mike D. of the Seven Billion Rising. Sir Love and Baron of Bay Ridge in Kings County, New York City. Knight Filippilo of the Barbara Plain. Sir Jolly the Brave of the Maine Mountains. Sir No Please. Sir Scott O'Matrick of the Maine Mountains. Sir No Please. Sir Scott O'Matrick of the Scandinavian High Ground.
Starting point is 03:32:30 Sir Toddsel the Unvaccinated. Sir Jim of the Casey Stagehands. Dame Kenny of the Megalodon. Sir Chris Knight of the Kansas City Real Estate. Sir Schmoll. Sir Andrew Herman. And Sir Lance Knight of the Northern Rivers. And for you, we have lined up here at the round table.
Starting point is 03:32:47 Let me stop that for a second. We have our hookers and blow. I need some hookers and blow. Red Boys and Chardonnay. We also have High Mountain Oolong, Jammin' Bolt, Mezcal, Parrots Bay, Coconut Rum, 90 Proof, Barks, Red Cream Soda, West Milton, Ohio Fireman's Waffles, Durian Uni and his hot wife on a platter, Kualango Burger from the Bareback Grill,
Starting point is 03:33:15 Pizza Port Beer Buddies, Jagger Fries from Fred's Rivertown Alehouse, and Apex IPA from the Sound to Summit Brewing Quast, Keystone Light and Kibbles, glass of tepid water and a wine bottle, Verdolagas with pork and green sauce and a glass of cold tapache and rikasatam and bulletproof coffee, giant breaded pork tenderloin and a chocolate miracle whip cake, bacon cheeseburger
Starting point is 03:33:34 and a chateau la tour and a Guinness and a medium rare tomahawk steak and of course, mutton and mead. Please go to noagendarrings.com that is where you will find um well first of all beautiful pictures of the knight and dame rings you can see that if you fill out your ring size there's a handy ring sizing guide there send us your address we will send you the no agenda night
Starting point is 03:33:57 or dame ring whichever one you want we don't discriminate and along with a certificate of authenticity and some wax to seal your important correspondence with. If you have a PhD, go to the same website, noagendarings.com, select the PhD, and of course put in the name that you want on your certificate, and we'll send it out to the address you provide as well. Thank you all so much for supporting your No Agenda show. No Agenda meetups. You're not done with me yet.
Starting point is 03:34:28 No, no, no. You're not done. We got some meetups. Some meetups today. The Mile High Meetup, 6.30 at Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver, Colorado. We have in Tilburg, probably over by now, but they may be listening, all stoned. The one week after another parliament election in the Netherlands meetup. It started at 8 o'clock at the Beer Café Godinski
Starting point is 03:34:45 in Tilburg, the Netherlands. Tomorrow, the Thanksgiving therapy meetup, 6.30 at Istroma Brewery in St. Gabriel, Louisiana. On Friday as well, the Fort Wayne-Auburn-Bluffton- Busco-No Agenda Club 33 meetup, 1 o'clock, Crazy Pins,
Starting point is 03:35:02 Fort Wayne, Indiana. On Saturday, the Connecticut Ugly Sweater Party, 2 o'clock, at the Truck Park in Higginham, Connecticut. Beach Girls organizing. The 208 Treasure Valley Boise meetup, 3 o'clock on Saturday at the Powder House Brewery, Garden City, Idaho. And on Sunday, the next show day, a meetup in Cheyenne, 1 o'clock. And that'll be at Chronicles Distillery in Cheyenne, Wyoming.
Starting point is 03:35:24 And a reminder reminder on Monday, December 4th, Indianapolis, Indiana, it will be a no agenda meetup. There's about 75 or 80 people are expected. We'll be doing a live ask Adam on stage and the keeper will be with me. That's it.
Starting point is 03:35:37 You're no agenda meetups. This is what you need as a companion to the show. Everybody knows it. In fact, the Indiana meetup was started because Mark and Maria, we talked to them, we had a Zoom meeting to make sure they want to make sure we were comfortable with everything. They started the Indianapolis Indy meetup because they felt that they needed to have people and a community in case we went through something we went through
Starting point is 03:35:59 in the past three years. And I really respect that. And they know what the slogan is. Connection is protection. Noagentameetups.com. If you can't find one near you start one yourself it's easy and always guaranteed a party sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days you want to be where you won't be triggered or hell's lame you want to be where everybody feels I got a couple of, a couple of ISOs. I want to fly by you. See if you'd like any of them. Ready?
Starting point is 03:36:38 Sure. I think the proof is in the pudding. That's not bad. Not bad. Next one. Wow. wow whoa look at that and then uh maybe this one that was inaudible i know it was the podcast police put the mics down yes all right what's you all right well i think i beat all those. Yeah, probably. Let's start with, I went a little offbeat, goal. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 03:37:09 Goal! Mm-hmm, yes. Yeah, that's out. Yeah. Then let's go to the obvious, thank you. Thank you. That's cute. Cute, and then unbelievable.
Starting point is 03:37:22 Literally unbelievable. That's the best one. It's the clearest. It punches through everything, and we are then unbelievable. Literally unbelievable. That's the best one. It's the clearest. It punches through everything. And we are literally unbelievable. Literally unbelievable. I think that's the one. Good news, everyone.
Starting point is 03:37:35 Tell me you got a good news clip, John. I always have a good news clip. I did notice something that should be noted. This is from the Norville Inside Edition. When you have syndicated network shows, they keep it short and sweet. The local good news goes on four or five minutes. They talk to the neighbors. No, we can't have that.
Starting point is 03:37:59 They can't keep it tight locally. It's not tight. Keep it tight, people. So here we go. Heroes can be found everywhere. This one was behind the wheel of a truck when a woman who was choking approached. Amrikagliano reports
Starting point is 03:38:11 he's now being called an angel. You're probably not used to seeing a truck driver like this chilling out to classical violin in his big rig. But his moment of calm is suddenly disrupted. A woman pulls up in front of his truck. She is in obvious distress. The truck driver saw she had one hand to her throat, then she raised both hands. She was giving him the international symbol for choking. He jumps out of his truck and immediately
Starting point is 03:38:39 realizes it's a life or death crisis. Then he grabs her from behind and administers the life-saving Heimlich maneuver with three thrusts under the rib cage. And out came the fast food she was choking on. In an instant, the ordeal was over. When the truck driver escorted her back to her car, he noticed two toddlers in the back seat. And here's the hero today, cement truck driver Jeff Hannes.
Starting point is 03:39:04 I was in the right place at the right time. And I did, in today, cement truck driver Jeff Hannes. I was in the right place at the right time, and I did, in my opinion, what most would have done. A humble hero. And for that good deed, the Chicago Bulls gave Jeff and his family courtside seats. What do you want? Good news. And what they left out, they left out the part where the Chicago Bulls gave him the courtside seats because the Chicago Bulls are chokers. I liked that. It was a great good news story. I liked the part about the international sign for choking, which I didn't know. Yeah, I never heard that either.
Starting point is 03:39:43 International sign. And that she was choking on some fast food. choking, which I didn't know was an international sign. And that she was choking on some fast food. It was a dynamite end to this 1612th episode of the No Agenda Show. Of course, we have end-of-show mixes coming up by request. We've got sound guy Steve. We've got an AI mix from Coconut Pete, which is kind of funny. End of show mix from the clip custodian, Neil Jones, and Sir Doctor I on the noagendastream.com website or trollroom.io. Up next, we have Unrelenting.
Starting point is 03:40:18 That's with Darren and Sir Gene. All right, that should be beautiful. Thank you all so much for celebrating your PhDs with us. Thank you for supporting your No Agenda show. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in the FEMA region, number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. Meet us back here again on Sunday.
Starting point is 03:40:41 We'll be right back. We'll do another three hours of media deconstruction for you. Remember us in the meantime at devorah.org slash na noagendadonation.com Until then, adios, mofos,
Starting point is 03:40:51 a-hooey, hooey, and son! Thank you. The truth seeking journey in every podcasting. No extra talk, whispers in the dark. Spinning truth tales, hitting every mark. Found truth about you listeners embrace their voices backing through
Starting point is 03:41:51 they are safe support their show keep through the light their value ignites how the truth revives the music secrets are sealed the agenda changes I love melon. Did you know there are over 40 different types of melons out there?
Starting point is 03:42:18 Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina says honeydew melons. He just wrote that in there for some reason. He likes melons. Golden delicious melons. The galia melon. Horned melons. How many melons are there in the world? There are over 40 different types of melons. Summertime is the perfect time to show off your melons, ladies. Honey globe melons. That's honey globe melons. Tasty. Camouflage Melons.
Starting point is 03:42:46 Nice. Choppers and Isle 3. Camouflage Melons. Jade Dew Melon Donation. Jade Dew is another literal melon. And I've had those. They're pretty good. I think the Tuscan Melon is my favorite.
Starting point is 03:42:58 Ah, you just love melons. The Picasso Melon. Calabash Melons. That's Calabash Melons. The Kiss Melon. It's got a big tongue that comes out of it. Theabash melons. That's Calabash melons. The Kiss melon. It's got a big tongue that comes out of it. The papaya melon. The Balin melon.
Starting point is 03:43:11 The Yubari King melon. Autumn sweets. Autumn sweets, the melon of choice for connoisseurs. He's going to run out of melons, by the way. I don't know how many melons varieties there are. I think he's got... But he hasn't even said watermelon yet. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:43:28 Cantola melon. Another one I've never heard of, but you know. How long will he be able to come up with melon names? Korean melons. I love his melon assortment. Gak melons. The ananas melon. I've never had one.
Starting point is 03:43:43 The sprite melon. Charente melons, whichanas melon and there i had one the sprite melon charlotte melons which is literally a melon kevin mcloughlin's back this time promoting the snap melon for you to keep your score i love melon children today they think the internet is their iphone hey i got google i got the internet they got apps. Apps? Come on. They always thought the web was the Internet, too, if you really want to go back to it. It was.
Starting point is 03:44:13 It still is. But it never was. The web, no. But the web is an open communication hyperlinking system that runs on the Internet. It's on top of the Internet. Yeah, but it's one step closer to it's not a platform the web is not a platform twitter is a platform facebook is a platform google is a platform your iphone app store is a platform these are platforms that they will regulate to to their own desire the web is still the last place.
Starting point is 03:44:47 Trump is telling us what he intends to do. Trump means to throw people in jail who disagree with him. Listen to what he says because he's telling us what he will do. He says, let's remove all doubt. This is what I'm about. This is what I'm about. This is what I'm about. He will execute.
Starting point is 03:45:24 Whoever he's allowed. Take him at his word. Boom. Predilection. Predilection for. Predilection for. Revenge. Revenge. Look at his past. Boom. for revenge.
Starting point is 03:45:47 Look at his past. Trump is telling us what he intends to do. He has to be eliminated. The best podcast in the universe. I'm not a mofo. Dvorak.org slash N-A. Literally unbelievable.

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