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Episode Date: December 10, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 comb your hair adam curry john c devora it's sunday december 10th 2023 this is your award winning kimone nation media assassination episode 1615 this is no agenda tracking al gore's rhythms and broadcasting live from the heart of the texas hill country here in fema region number six in the morning everybody i'm adam curry from Northern Silicon Valley, where everybody's happy about Hunter Biden paying his taxes. I'm John C. DeBoer. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Everybody wishes he could get hookers and blow and cool stuff and then pay the taxes. The guy's got so much money. He must be loaded. Did he pay his taxes or not? i don't know if he paid his taxes or not that's yeah that's not you'd think you'd know wouldn't you that's all the fuss they're making wait a minute is this a lead up to a three by three well we do have a three by three regarding hunter biden's taxes that's true well shall we do it yeah as well. And now it's time for 3x3. Experiment by JCBS.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I'm once again comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. The never-ending 3x3. JCB brings you the headlines from this morning. 3x3 from the big three networks. And today the headlines are, are Hunter Biden, I guess. What do we have? Yeah, Hunter Biden. This apology tour by the networks to cover up for Hunter Biden as best they can.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Oh, no. But they never give us any real facts. They just kind of, it's weird. And by the way, these all seem like they were produced by the same White House. Same Hill and Knowlton White House. Almost identical in the order of presentation and the way it ends, except for the NBC was slightly different at the end, but the rest of them are almost identical. Let's go with NBC. NBC, first in the three by three. Tonight, President Biden ignoring questions about the new round of
Starting point is 00:02:05 legal woes for his son woes a nine count federal indictment on tax charges from special counsel david weiss hunter biden facing the possibility of 17 years in prison the 56 page indictment saying he failed to pay at least 1.4 million million in taxes from 2016 to 2019, spending millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle rather than paying his tax bills, including on drugs, escorts, and girlfriends, such as $683,000 on payments to various women, close to $400,000 on clothes, and $188,000 on adult entertainment. Papa Joe, please adopt me. Hunter Biden said he was battling addiction. His attorney saying he paid back the taxes and the charges should not have been brought. If this wasn't Hunter Biden, this would not have happened. It comes after Weiss's
Starting point is 00:02:59 original plea deal for Hunter Biden, which would have allowed him to avoid prison time, fell apart under a judge's scrutiny. The growing accusations against Hunter Biden come as the GOP is investigating the finances of the Biden family, including the president, with more Republicans favoring the impeachment inquiry already underway. I will support it when it comes to the floor, likely next week. President Biden has repeatedly denied that he spoke to Hunter about his foreign business dealings. I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses. A former Hunter Biden partner told Congress President Biden spoke to their business associates at least 20 times. The president was pressed about it this week. I did not. And it's just a bunch of lies.
Starting point is 00:03:45 No lies. Lies. They're lying about it. It's just lies. I did not. All the reports mentioned girlfriends on top of the hookers. It's interesting. This is this is an interesting approach.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I mean, it's what you know, he didn't pay his, and then he did pay his taxes. They don't clear that up. No, no, they said that. He said he did pay his taxes. In that report, I heard you paid his taxes. Yeah, that's what he said. Well, then if he paid his taxes, what's the fuss? Well, because it's fun to say hookers and girlfriends, I guess.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And hookers is fun. It's entertainment. What's there not to like about a report like that? Well, for one thing, it's not giving us the story. Well, if he paid his taxes,
Starting point is 00:04:34 why is he, what, what's the point of all this? Well, okay. How about this? Did he pay it? Did he pay the full amount of taxes?
Starting point is 00:04:41 Did he pay the penalties? What, what is there? This is not a good story. It's not telling us anything. Well, what it's doing is it's distracting from the impeachment inquiry. Because all we hear is hookers, girlfriends, drugs, Airbnbs. Well, when we go to ABC, we'll hear pretty much almost an identical report,
Starting point is 00:05:02 except for the little ditty at the end. Heading out of the White House today, President Biden ignoring a barrage of questions about the new federal indictment. And by the way, stop, stop. Both these, all these reports start the same way. Biden's ignoring the questions. Did these guys get together in advance
Starting point is 00:05:20 of putting these reports together? They're structured identical. How about this? How about this how about this for a thought this is a california issue am i correct i believe this is this is this comes out of california this yeah yeah well how about they want it's time to get rid of joe time to bring in gavin newsom well there's i'm not saying that's not the case. What I'm talking about is the story itself. They're identically structured, all three networks. Do their reporters talk with each other?
Starting point is 00:05:50 How does this happen? Oh, please, please. Let's go with this. You start it over. Start it over. Gee, I wonder, do you think there's collusion? Do you think they have the same source? In fact, I don't think there's collusion.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I think they were presented with the structure by the White House and they just followed the instructions. Heading out of the White House today, President Biden ignoring a barrage of questions about the new federal indictment against his son, Mr. President. The nine count indictment. There's nothing like that. We need to do that more often. Yeah, I love it. That's great. I love it. Six misdemeanors and three felony charges accusing Hunter Biden of failing to pay $1.4 million in taxes from 2016 to 2019.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Special Counsel David Weiss insisted that during that time, Biden was living an extravagant lifestyle, spending on drugs, escorts, and girlfriends, luxury hotels, rental properties, exotic cars, clothing. In short, everything but his taxes. Biden allegedly shelling out more than $600,000 on various women. Another $397,000 on clothes. And more than $180,000 on adult entertainment.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Rice, a Trump appointee kept on by Attorney General Merrick Garland to continue the probe, has been investigating Hunter Biden for more than five years. Through it all, the president standing squarely behind his son. to continue the probe, has been investigating Hunter Biden for more than five years. Through it all, the president standing squarely behind his son. My son's done nothing wrong. I trust him. I have faith in him. Hunter Biden has since paid all of his back taxes. Today, his attorney saying, if Hunter's last name was anything other than Biden, the charges would not have been brought, adding that the special counsel bowed to Republican pressure. In a recently recorded podcast, Hunter Biden accusing Republicans of
Starting point is 00:08:06 attacking him to undermine his father's confidence and ability to continue the campaign. They're trying to destroy a presidency. And so it's not about me. In their most base way, what they're trying to do is they're trying to kill me knowing that it will be a pain greater than my father could be able to handle wow that was an old clip that's from an old interview that that hunter thing at the end there yeah well they brought it back curious how that was dropped in the end of this report. In the exact same clip. Okay. Right. Whatever happens next.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Okay. Yes. I think I can back you up here. How about this? Whatever happens next to Hunter, it will kill Joe Biden. Yes. This is a setup. This is a setup, a view to a kill well let's go to cbs now cbs which is the wow got a little they have a little more on they they didn't change much structures
Starting point is 00:09:18 basically the same the exact same clip you just heard from Hunter will be played again on CBS. The exact same clip will be played on CBS. And in the CBS report, there's a couple of elements that you might find missing. Leaving the White House for campaign stops in California. Any comments on these charges against your son? And there's my favorite again. President Biden ignored questions about his son's felony and misdemeanor tax charges. The 56-page indictment details an alleged four-year scheme to avoid paying at least $1.4 million in federal taxes.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Hunter Biden is charged with nine counts, including tax evasion. And Special Counsel David Weiss included eye-popping details about Biden's alleged spending. $1.6 million in cash from ATM withdrawals. $683,000 in payments to various women. And $39,000 for home help, cleaning, and child care. This is a serious indictment. Tom Dupree is a... Hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:10:20 What was all that? Okay, there's two differences right there. One, besides the fact that he took out over a million dollars in ATM, what does that have to do with anything? Wait a minute, how many? If you can only get $300 max out of the ATM. No, it's $300 most. Unless it's your own ATM, it's going to be $300.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Some even $200. Well, you can do the calculation. You can't get a million five or whatever she said. The machine, okay. How many machines did he go to? Well, there's another issue. That's great. And what was the point?
Starting point is 00:10:53 So they got the ATM thing in there and then they also put in as though it's a bad thing, childcare. This CVS report is totally different. I mean, the structure's is identical they have the woman screaming at the beginning and they go on with the indictments exactly the same except they add a couple of there's a couple of twists one they they add this atm nonsense and then this child care thing what's that supposed to be bad may i add that this is the pixie girl? This is Catherine Herridge. This is the CIA CBS,
Starting point is 00:11:27 uh, spokeshole. Why is she doing this report? Well, that's in itself is a good point. ATM withdrawals, 683,000 in payments to various women and 39,000 for home help, cleaning and childcare.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Home health, home held home. What is home? Did she say for home help cleaning and child care home health home held home what is home did she say home health cleaning she said home health cleaning home health cleaning whatever that is i'm gonna look it up and 39 000 for home help cleaning and child care home help cleaning serious indictment tom dupree is a former senior justice department official this indictment reads like an accounting ledger of vice. And the prosecutors spell out in gory, painful detail exactly how Hunter Biden was spending his money. And it doesn't look good. The indictment calls Hunter Biden a lobbyist, consultant and business person and alleges he earned millions for work with the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma.
Starting point is 00:12:24 OK, hold on a second. Could this all be to show that whatever he did, he didn't send money? There was no 10% for the big guy? Is that maybe the point of this? Like, oh, he took money out of the ATM, a million dollars, but no 10% for the big guy. Look at all the money he spent, but no 10% for the big guy? Possibly? percent for the big guy look at all the money he spent but no 10 for the big guy possibly that's a
Starting point is 00:12:45 stretch but it's a it does get it triggered it in you so it must trigger it in somebody going a chinese energy firm cefc and other foreign businesses more charges could be possible in a statement hunter biden's lawyer said based on the facts and the law if hunter's last name was anything other than biden the charges would not have been brought. In a podcast recorded before the indictment, Hunter Biden blamed Republicans for much of his legal trouble. They're trying to kill me, knowing that it will be a pain greater than my father could be able to handle. And so therefore, destroying a presidency in that way. Oh, man. All right. This three by three. Do you mind if I turn it into a four by four by adding CNN?
Starting point is 00:13:32 At CNN. I think this is the one Dana Bash. I want to bring in our team of political experts to discuss. And Dana Bash, I'll start with you. You just heard Hunter Biden before these charges actually came out. speak about the toll on him and his dad, not just politically, but personally. What impact will this have on President Biden as he campaigns for reelection? Well, it's already having an impact because it's very, very difficult for the president, for the president's reelection campaign to try to navigate what is very, very obviously understandably personal for the president. And it's not just about the indictment and the allegations, the criminal allegations, both the new ones in California
Starting point is 00:14:21 and also in Delaware. It is about his addiction. And that was, I mean, Wolf, listening to Hunter Biden say, they're trying to kill me. He doesn't mean that metaphorically. He means that literally. Here we go. Because he's an addict. And he, and his argument has been that the reason he didn't pay his taxes, the reason he spent so much money, over a million, maybe almost a million and a half dollars on all of these untoward things and more is because he was addicted to very horrible drugs to crack. And so what he is saying there is they're trying to get me to get me off the wagon, which would destroy my father. And, you know, there, of course, are political reasons for this. And he did do things that were wrong. But from the perspective of Hunter Biden, from the perspective of his lawyers, not so much that it deserves this kind of attention. And that's why they say that if his name was
Starting point is 00:15:26 anything other than biden that he wouldn't be prosecuted to the degree that he is right now after that plea deal fell apart in july so same script with a little addition have to remind you dana bash married to cia guy or a divorce from cia guy this is your op. Biden's going to need to leave. All his son has to do, doesn't actually have to die, but I think he's in on it. He has to get addicted again. All that takes is another, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:57 another treasure trove of fresh pictures and Biden will lose it and we've all been forewarned about it. And in comes Big Mike 2024, or Gavin Newsom. Yeah, I can't see anything else going on here, because this is too scripted. All three networks, and then you put CNN, which was kind of a completely different approach, but the exact same thing. It was mashed up a little differently uh exact same product given to the public and it would go something like he gets addicted again the republicans get blamed because they're
Starting point is 00:16:38 pricks and and they want him to fall off the wagon. Biden has to quit because of his family, you know, because of his son, he's got to, you know, got to work with his son. It's more important. Family's more important.
Starting point is 00:16:53 America important. Yeah. Because we know family's more important than this and that. And so, uh, he looks like the good guy. Yeah. Republicans look like the a-hole.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Yes. They did this. And Gavin Newsom incomes gavin or yeah whoever this is well doing it yeah now a couple of things the cbs report never mentioned that he had paid his taxes that's the one thing they left out of the script uh and i'm not sure why it was in the script because it doesn't help things. It makes it muddier. Whatever the case, something's going on with this, and I have straight reporting on this, or seemingly so,
Starting point is 00:17:36 and I think it's from NTD. You want to hear NPR first? NTD, NPR, yeah, because it'll still be in the script. The NTD guys aren't, as far as I know, they're not read into anything. They're not even taken seriously by you. No, of course not.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Oh, hold on. Let's do NPR. What specific charges is Hunter Biden facing with this indictment? Well, this is a nine-count indictment. It was handed up by a federal grand jury in the Central District of California. The charges are related to tax years 2016 through 2019. Three of the counts that Hunter Biden is facing here are felony tax counts, one for tax evasion, two for filing a false return. The other six counts are misdemeanors, and those are for failing to pay his taxes and failing to file his taxes. Okay, so this all relates to the 2016 through the 2019
Starting point is 00:18:29 time period. What does the special counsel say that Hunter Biden was doing? Well, prosecutors say that over four years, Hunter engaged in a scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in taxes that he owed. It also says that he evaded paying taxes for 2018. Now, the indictment says that between 2016 and 2020, Hunter made more than $7 million in total gross income. The indictment references business dealings in Ukraine, business dealings related to connections in Romania and China. It says that Hunter got another $1.2 million in financial support.
Starting point is 00:19:04 But prosecutors say that Hunter spent his money on drugs, on escorts and girlfriends, on luxury hotels, exotic cars, among other things. Prosecutors say, in short, that Hunter Biden spent his money on his extravagant lifestyle, not on his taxes. And so I guess they're saying that he willfully didn't pay his taxes. That's right. Although he had the money. OK. OK. All right. Now, from this NPR report, different takeaway.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Not read in, not part. They have the script, but they took a different tact. They actually read the indictment. The indictment says he earned $7 million, which, you know, and he spent over a million on hookers and blow and stuff. Okay. And he spent over a million on hookers and blow and stuff. Okay, that still leaves a good $5.5 million. So it's ludicrous to say he spent his money on hookers.
Starting point is 00:19:55 He had another $5.5 million. It's ridiculous. It's unimportant. So the three by three, including CNN, they are focusing your attention on the hookers. Don't look at the money from Ukraine and China. That's not in their script. And they add in Joe can die at any moment or he can, he has to retire because evil Republicans will get Hunter back, you know, have him off the wagon.
Starting point is 00:20:30 So this is the true, they buried the lead. $7 million from China and Ukraine. Hmm, what could be wrong with that? Yeah. So that I think is what's really going on. This is NTD. This is Hunter Biden charges? Uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:15 The president's son, Hunter Biden, is facing a nine-count scheme to not pay at least $1.4 million in federal taxes from 2016 to 2019, while spending millions of dollars on an extravagant lifestyle. According to the indictment, he spent his money on drugs, escorts and girlfriends, luxury hotels and rental properties, exotic cars, clothing, and other items of a personal nature. It says, in short, everything but his taxes. Hunter's lavish spending was at its highest in 2018, reaching $1.8 million. His four-year spending spree included over $600,000 in payments to various women, $397 thousand dollars on clothes and accessories, and more than 180 thousand dollars in adult entertainment. Hunter Biden admitted to a crack cocaine addiction in his recent memoir. The indictment says he described his drug use in 2018 as 24 hours a day, smoking every 15 minutes, seven days a week. In 2021, he spoke to CBS News about that experience. I spent more time on my hands and knees picking through rugs, smoking anything that
Starting point is 00:22:15 even remotely resembled crack cocaine. Special Counsel Weiss says Hunter Biden made millions of dollars from foreign entities, including business dealings in Ukraine, Romania and China, and that in 2018 he continued to earn handsomely and to, quote, spend wildly. Oh, thank goodness. I was about about to be very disappointed in NTD. They put it in there. Thank you, NTD. Again, burying the lead, but it's in there. Yeah, the lead. You're right about burying the lead. Let it's in there. Yeah, the lead. You're right about burying the lead. Let's go with the second half of this. Hunter Biden's attorney, Abby Lowell, said Thursday that if Hunter's last name was anything other than Biden, the charges would not have been brought. Lowell accuses Weiss of bowing to Republican pressure.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Hunter's business dealings are at the center of a house. I got so part of the script is if his name was anything, anything other than Biden, no charges would have been brought. What if his last name was Trump? Sorry, Abby. Lowell accuses Weiss of bowing to Republican pressure. Lowell accuses Weiss of bowing to Republican pressure. Hunter's business dealings are at the center of a House probe into President Biden's involvement in his son's foreign business ventures. Republicans on Thursday released a resolution to further their impeachment investigation of the elder Biden. On Friday, some House members argued for fast-tracking the floor vote on the resolution in light of the recent indictment. fast-tracking the floor vote on the resolution in light of the recent indictment.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Representative Jason Smith told Roll Call, these charges further confirm the need for Congress to move forward with an impeachment inquiry of Joe Biden in order to uncover all the facts for the American people to judge. House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer attributed the new charges to the bravery of two IRS whistleblowers. Comer attributed the new charges to the bravery of two IRS whistleblowers. Bravery? The two agents, Gary Shapley and Joseph Ziegler, testified that the Department of Justice made decisions that benefited the president's son. Comer said the agents put their careers on the line to reveal misconduct and politicization during the probe, and that the DOJ got caught in its attempts to shield the younger Biden. That's another lead that was buried everywhere else, of course.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And there's another thing that the right wingers, the more overt newscasters have been bringing up over and over, which is that this whole thing is and I think it's maybe suggested by the fact that if he already paid his taxes, which only two of the three by three reporters said he already paid these taxes this could go to court just linger linger and prevent biden from testifying against his father and the comor committee because he's under this indictment he can't do that he can't do this he can't go he can't test wait wait but what biden can't testify why because he had to have to plead the fifth on everything because it would have because he's under because he's right now in the middle of a case against him well can't he just lie
Starting point is 00:25:14 doesn't seem to be beyond him it seems oh well i think he'd rather not be grilled. He seems like a weak personality. Yeah, yeah. The idea is to keep him out of the Comer committee. Ah, yes. Or then the whole impeachment thing. Keep him away, as far away as you can. Get him to California. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Take a long time on this case until past the election, and then... So California's friendly fire in this case, in this. Yeah. And then you end up with the and then at the end of the day, they say, oh, well, you already paid your taxes. This shouldn't have been filed in the first place. Go home. Go home. Dismiss.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Go home and have a nice day. And then get hooked and we'll remove your dad later. I have one. Maybe this is too. This is good hooked and we'll remove your dad later. I have one, maybe... This is too... This is good. This is obviously a scheme. You mean, are you telling me that our main three networks are no good? I'm shocked.
Starting point is 00:26:17 David Axelrod on CNN. Let me see if this is a political angle. Let's see if there's anything in this. David Axelrod. The indictment, asana just point out pointed out uh really does uh paint a very damning indictment charges against hunter biden how does this reflect on the president of the united states just great look uh it does paint a portrait and a lot of it was known already uh Wolf, both through other legal filings and through what Hunter Biden has said himself. The story of his addiction and some of the activities that flowed from it are
Starting point is 00:26:54 very well known. But it's important to note that it is about Hunter Biden. It's not about Joe Biden. There are a lot of people in this country who have children who have fallen to addiction. And and despite two years of effort, there's been no success. Why the laugh? Why the laugh? He laughs. He laughs. Oh, I didn't. I missed that. In this country, you have children who have fallen to addiction. And and despite two years of effort, despite two years of effort. Well, that was a subtle one. I wouldn't call it. There's been no successful in linking Biden to any wrongdoing by Hunter Biden. So I think this is, as Hunter described, as Dana described, this is an emotional burden for the president and will be going forward.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I don't think I think people can separate out Joe from Hunter. I don't think this issue is is the political burden that perhaps some hope it will be for the president. It's a very personal burden. Absolutely. And I think that's serious. I totally agree. Uh huh. There it is. Hey, if I'm sorry. I mean, if you're president of the United States, it sucks when your son, you know, is back on drugs and back, you know, it's horrible because, you know, he's driving cool cars. He's got hookers. I mean, it's horrible. If you can't handle that, then you can't be president.
Starting point is 00:28:18 You can't handle a lot of stuff. Bleh. I'm sick as a dog, I might want to point out. Oh, you sound fine until you just mentioned it now I can hear you're congested oh my god and I have tracked the source this is from the indie meetup I've gotten several emails
Starting point is 00:28:37 people are sick remember we had that one human resource who puked oh right right you had a puker we had a puker. We had a puker. She'll never live that down. Now, a couple guys,
Starting point is 00:28:53 and I want to, a couple guys like, yeah, well, I tested. I got the koof. Like, don't test. Don't test. I didn't test. It's Emily.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Emily from the meetup. I blame Emily. She was typhoid Mary. Was Emily the pukuker no no no emily no the puke was a little kid no emily uh she was in nashville she shows up there she she even said it so because people email me i got the cough too as a it's you you're the germ barge you were the germ barge you have to know emily to know that this is funny well she's probably loving it i hope she is um speaking of nashville um everyone that we know in nashville is safe that was a weird thing last night you heard about the tornado that just ripped through Nashville? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Oh, man. I mean, it... And some weird weather back there. Very weird weather. My buddy Dave Jones, he's in Alabama, and he got a part of the storm. The hail was so fierce in Alabama, it stripped paint off his house. That's hail. That's hail.
Starting point is 00:30:05 That's some real hail there. Man, oh man. He had his car in the garage. Yeah, he has an old 1930s Ford. I don't think... Oh, you want it out. I don't think that matters. It's all dinged up. It looks cool. How'd you do that, man? It looks nice. It looks beautiful.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Here's ABC on the latest, just since we're talking about. Oh, by the way, Tina's sick now, too, of course. So no Sunday school for us. This is the latest from ABC on the coup. And we turn now to the rise in COVID-19 hospitalizations with RSV and flu cases also ticking up. It comes as holiday gatherings get into full swing. ABC's Rena Roy is here now with more.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Good morning, Rena. Ariel, good morning to you. Yeah, it is that time of year again, right? A season when we're all celebrating but also dealing with all kinds of illnesses. We usually hear the numbers go up in the fall and winter because of travel and holiday gatherings. And this year, it is no different. The CDC says 15 states plus New York City are experiencing high or very high levels of respiratory illness activity. Respiratory illness activity? What is that? Like a ping pong game. A respiratory
Starting point is 00:31:13 illness activity. And that means doctors are seeing more and more people coming in with things like fevers and a cough or sore throat, usually from COVID, the common cold, or the flu. RSV is also on the rise, and about half of states are seeing an increase in flu and COVID cases. COVID hospitalizations have reached levels not seen since February, particularly among babies, young children, and older adults. However, they are lower than rates seen at the same time last year. Meanwhile, health officials are also tracking a rising COVID- She sub-variant called JN1. She's hyperventilating her report. She's so jacked about it. However, they are lower than rates seen at the same time last year. Meanwhile, health officials are also tracking a rising COVID-19 sub-variant called JN1 that's estimated
Starting point is 00:32:03 to make up more than 20% of cases right now around the country. At this time, there is no evidence that JN1 is more severe than previous variants. No evidence! Tests, vaccines, and treatments are You know what that means? When there's no evidence, that means there's going to be evidence. Yeah, there's plenty of it. Just not now!
Starting point is 00:32:20 More severe than previous variants. Tests, vaccines, and treatments are still expected to be effective. And health officials say getting your shots is the best thing you can do. And it's not too late. Now is actually a great time because it often takes up to two weeks.
Starting point is 00:32:35 My God. She did it again. She's like, this is only a one minute 30 shot. I got to get the vaccine promo in there. A great time because it often takes up to two weeks to reach full protection after a dose. That is just in time for Christmas. Gio, that's an important reminder. That's an important reminder.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Yes. Oh, man. I have some important reminders from PBS on COVID. And they did a little better job of selling the vaccine. Uh-huh. OK. Just over 15 percent of American adults have gotten the latest COVID booster. a better job of selling the vaccine. Uh-huh. Okay. Just over 15% of American adults have gotten the latest COVID booster.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Uh-oh. Demand for the vaccine has dropped sharply since it was first introduced at the height of the pandemic. That's partly because the government's response to COVID-19
Starting point is 00:33:18 has been so politically charged. What? Judy Woodruff spoke to public health experts about that government response. It's part of her ongoing series, America at a Crossroads. In March of 2020, many Americans were united in their fear of the new unknown virus as people grapple with the images of overwhelmed hospitals and death abroad and in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Hopefully it won't be much longer. We, the people, will not come back. But public opinion quickly splintered as governors issued stay-at-home orders to slow the spread of the virus. It should be a choice, not a mandate.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It's a choice, not a mandate. Oh, so they're bringing this back. This is interesting. PBS decides now to say that this is a political thing? They go in. This is a whole 15 minutes. I gave you the beginning, and I'm going to tell you what happens. So they go on and on and on, and they actually redo the entire pandemic, the history of it, what happened here and there and everywhere in between.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And their concern is, of course, that people aren't taking things seriously enough. And a lot of it has to do with the Republicans, those lousy Republicans. Horrible. Yes. Red states. To bring it back around so we make sure that they get the right promotions and to make sure we get back on track with how we think about the vaccines. motions in to make sure we get back on track with how we think about the vaccines uh it it she goes from person to person to person and then and then tops it off and i i know you'll get it probably can i guess can i guess trump doesn't end with trump no no no no i mean here's here's what the
Starting point is 00:35:00 question is she's going to bring on one expert after another who knows the ropes and then finally get to the one guy who's going to tell it like it is and give us the fear-mongering we need. Now, Osterholm, of course. Nope. That's a good guess, but it's not the great guess. Then it's HOTEP. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And that had deadly consequences. According to Dr. Peter Hotez of Baylor College of Medicine. He researched the human cost of the resistance to masks and vaccines in his new book, The Deadly Rise of Anti-Science. The big differential in deaths was very much on states where people widely accepted vaccines and states where people did not widely accept vaccines oh man what's my estimate is that 200 000 americans needless to perish wow he's got no documentation for anything other than his his his. And then he's got his book. Now, my advice from the Curry Consulting Company is, hey, dude, comb your hair.
Starting point is 00:36:14 It doesn't take a genius to comb your hair. Are you married? States where people do not widely accept vaccines. My estimate is that 200,000 Americans needlessly perished because they refused COVID vaccines after vaccines were widely available. A poll out this September showed 91% of Democratic voters had received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, compared with 66% of Republican voters.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And Democrats were far more likely to get the latest booster. And multiple studies show more Republican strongholds that resisted public health measures and vaccinations fared worse in terms of infection and mortality rates. That's a lie. It's a total lie. There's no evidence to that. It's a total lie.
Starting point is 00:37:10 So they're basically lying, but you have to consider their audience. They're not lying to Republicans or trying to get Republicans off their ass. Go get a shot. They're not doing that. They're lying to the Democrats to assuage them. Don't worry. You did the right thing. Get another shot.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Oh, I mean, there's a lot of this going on. I mean, there's friends of the show in California who were banned from all social circles. I'm talking upper, upper, upper class social circles because they were not jabbed. And now, and now and now like of course you know they're all back together like oh we didn't know silly ass i mean come on great and they're dropping dead a lot of them are dying that's kind of the irony i guess so now i was i was going to do this later in the show, but since we're on the coup train here, Bobby the op had this speech.
Starting point is 00:38:09 It was like 40 minutes and it was the, he was the clearest in his speech, which is why I even considered chopping it up. And he blames everything on the CIA, which of course, knowing his background, is risky business. Everything he, and he blames the origin of COVID on the CIA, the creation of COVID on the CIA. I mean, it's mind boggling what he, and a lot of this is from his book, and I'm sure most people haven't read it. The Fauci book.
Starting point is 00:38:47 The Fauci book. But this is very succinct. And then he goes into the lockdown strategy. And I need to get this out because it's so good. And I pick it up because he goes way back to the bioweapons treaties and how that was halted under Nixon. And it basically was picked up by the CIA. They went, oh, you pussies over at the Pentagon. We can manage the bioweapons.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So he picks it up in September of 2001. Hmm. September of 2001. In 2001, in June, the CIA sponsors the first of its pandemic simulations. It simulates a biological attack on Washington, D.C. by Saddam Hussein. This is in June 2001. That simulation got international, and a lot of the CIA people like Judith Miller from the New York Times was promoting it, going around doing all the talk shows. It triggered two Senate hearings, one by Joe Biden's committee, and that hearing was in September 2001. What happened in September 2001? 9-11.
Starting point is 00:40:11 So that hearing was going on during 9-11. As soon as 9-11 happened, the neocons, which were working on all this stuff with the CIA, pulled out the Patriot Act, a 350-page statute from a shelf where it had been waiting for a while. And in one week said, we want to pass this in a week. There's only one member of Congress who read it, which was Dennis Kucinich. And he went crazy and said, you have no idea this is the end of American democracy if you do this.
Starting point is 00:40:40 It allows the CIA to spy on Americans. One of the things the Patriot Act did is it did not get rid of the Geneva Convention or the Bioweapons Treaty, but it said no federal official can be prosecuted for violating those two statutes. So it reopened the bioweapons arms race globally. So a couple things we learn here. Now we understand why Dennis Kucinich was with him in the beginning
Starting point is 00:41:07 and probably the op ended or you know, RFK Jr. starts targeting the CIA and Kucinich is like, dude, I'm out. I like life. Yeah, I'm taking a different angle on this.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I think Kucinich was there to brief him and make sure that he was getting his message on track on behalf of aspects of the CIA. I'm with aspects, yeah. Which is probably in a schism of newbies, jerk-offs, old-timers. Binaurals, what do you call them? Binaries, non-binaries. Non-binaries.
Starting point is 00:41:51 They got those guys coming in. Nobody likes them. Nobody likes non-binaries. Nobody likes them. And so right now they're trying to do something about it. They can't. Kennedy's part of the scheme to do something about it by drawing attention. And he says he's going to reorg the CIA.
Starting point is 00:42:07 And if he does, that means he's going to reorg it back to the way it was in the 50s or 60s. The good old days. The good old days. The good old days. Anyway, so now... Because he's not an idiot,
Starting point is 00:42:21 so he's not really taking a risk. I love what he's doing here. And now he's going to take it to Ford Dietrich. A week after, when the Patriot Act was being debated, and it was being held up by two senators, there was an anthrax attack on the U.S. Capitol. It was blamed on Saddam Hussein. And the neocons all said, see, we were right in the pandemic simulation.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Saddam Hussein attacked us. And we used that as a justification to go to war against Saddam Hussein. And within two days, we passed the Patriot Act. Who got the anthrax? Two Senate offices. Tom Daschle and Patrick Lee, the two senators who were blocking the Patriot Act. The FBI did a one-year investigation. They said this anthrax was unique. It was Ames anthrax, and there's only one place in the world it could have come from, Fort Detrick, the CIA lab.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I love this. I mean, it's all the stuff we've been saying, but he put it together in this one beautiful speech. And now, yes. And he's more likely to know more than we do. We go on theories, and by doing a lot of reading and research, we have no inside information on any of this. We have to make sure people realize that we're just we're just reading yeah uh doing what you know nobody has time to do no one has time for it and he's got he's got people briefing him he's a part of the system oh of a system for
Starting point is 00:43:59 sure a system yeah yeah so he's got inside stuff that is, we can deduce, but he can know. So now, 2001, this is where we bring in Fauci. So we went to war, we passed the Patriot Act, and immediately started giving $2 billion a year to bioweapons development. a year to bioweapons development. The Pentagon didn't want to do it because it was nervous about the legality because it was a death penalty to violate the Geneva Convention. Oh, you would have been committing,
Starting point is 00:44:34 you know, a war crime even if somebody told you it was okay. It wasn't. And so they funneled it through DITRA and DARPA. They funneled all of that money to NIH, to NIAID, which became the primary spear tip of bioweapons development. So Tony Fauci became the bioweapons czar in 2001.
Starting point is 00:45:02 His budget went up by $2.2 billion. He was personally given a 68% raise from the military. That's why he was the highest paid individual in the federal government. So now he goes through a whole bunch of stuff, which I didn't clip, about how Fauci did that, hid the money, went through the CIA front company, which was that weird weird organization that funny enough uh malone came out of yeah it was like because he was involved in that um i forget what is it called but anyway doesn't really matter because you understand the premise but here's where things went wrong
Starting point is 00:45:39 because they didn't have this part of the plan set up. And bioweapons development always includes vaccine development. Because unlike chemical... Yeah, sorry. EcoHealth, that was the place. EcoHealth, that was the front company. And bioweapons development always includes vaccine development. Because unlike chemical weapons, with bioweapons, there's always blowback. It's called the boomerang effect.
Starting point is 00:46:02 If you give your enemy bubonic plague your guys are going to get it first too they're going to get it quickly so the only way you can deploy a bioweapons is if you have already developed a vaccine so the race is to develop a vaccine simultaneously with the bioweapons and then you can deploy the bioweapons and your enemy will take a couple of years to develop the vaccine. And you can inoculate all of your team. So, clearly we didn't have those ready because, you know, the virus escaped. I don't think it was really a truly weaponized virus. I think more people died of fear of being put on a ventilator.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And old people die from flu. So the numbers show it was about the same as a regular flu year. So it was just fun for him to connect that. But then, and this is the one that blew me away, because I had just mentioned maybe two, three weeks ago that I felt that social media was like we're in a big Milgram experiment. But I felt that social media was like we're in a big Milgram experiment. And then all of a sudden, Bobby the Op continues with his CIA, braiding of the CIA, takes it straight into MKUltra, Operation Paperclip, all the things that were conspiracy theories when we were talking about them 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And part of the reason Alex Jones has been thrown off the media planet, although he seems to be coming back since this Tucker interview, which is interesting, and I'm happy for him. So then he brings in the Milgram experiment. You know, I know a lot about the CIA. I've gotten their manuals. I paid over $1,000 to get these manuals
Starting point is 00:47:46 because they're training manuals from MKUltra. I'll pay a grand. Where are these manuals? Is this on eBay? Where can I get these? That's worth it. Yeah, we'll publish them. It stands for Mind Control, MKNyomi, MKDtrick.
Starting point is 00:48:01 It all came out of Fort Detrick and NIH. And then 150 colleges around our country where they were funding these studies. And if you look at what they do in these simulations, they're using all of these techniques that they developed in colleges, in college laboratories, social scientists and other scientists,
Starting point is 00:48:21 medical scientists for years who were studying how do you control individual behavior but also mass behavior? How do you induce mass psychosis? How do you create Manchurian candidates? You know, how do you do all these? They had all these colleges studying these and how do you impose centralized foreign control
Starting point is 00:48:44 on indigenous populations? By coming into a country, by using propaganda, by using fear, by sowing chaos, by destroying relationships, destroying faith in institutions, driving people apart and creating chaos so they will invite in an authority who will give them peace and safety and all of them all of these mind control techniques are designed to accelerate that process does that sound familiar to anybody perhaps does that sound familiar as this propaganda and so fear? And does that sound a bit like 2020? And then he explains the Milgram experiment. But one of the most interesting experiments was called the Milgram. And there was a scientist, associate scientist at Yale, a sociologist called Stanley Milgram, who was a, who was
Starting point is 00:49:48 part of the MKUltra program. And he was, he conducted this experiment where he recruited subjects from every walk of American life. They were students, they were professors, they were business people, they were blacks, whites,
Starting point is 00:50:04 everybody from the New Haven area. And he would put this subject in a chair at a table where there was a dial in front of them that they could administer an electric shock to a person who was tied in the chair in the next room. Who they told was tied in the chair, but he was actually a confederate of Milgram's. He was an actor. but he was actually a confederate of Milgrams. He was an actor. And when they turned this dial up and administered this supposed electric shock, they could hear the man in the other room
Starting point is 00:50:29 screaming, shouting, begging, struggling, pleading with them, crying. And most of the people who were participating in this experiment begged to stop. A lot of them were crying and telling the doctor. The doctor was standing behind them
Starting point is 00:50:46 saying, turn it up, turn it down, turn it higher, turn it down, turn it even higher, turn it down. And 67% of them turned it up to 250 volts where it was marked potentially fatal. So this would be, let me see, Jimmy Kimmel, Let him die. Don't let him come in. Die, Republicans. Die, anti-vaxxers. Die. Die. But they needed one thing. They needed the link in the show notes. You can see the guy has a lab coat. And when there's someone with a lab coat, think Anthony Fauci, who says... Yeah, and why is Anthony Fauci ever wearing a lab coat? Or anybody that's on TV. By the way, when I played those clips of Judy Woodruff doing the report with the Hotez, what did you think he's wearing?
Starting point is 00:51:43 A lab coat? Yep. So 67% was willing to fry their fellow Americans, which my dear friends, producers and trolls leaves an exact beautiful 33%. That's you. 33% of the people got up and walked out. And what Milgram said if you for 67 of people
Starting point is 00:52:09 if you have an authority figure it has some imprimatur of legitimacy like a doctor's title that 67 of people will take his orders even it means violating their most sacred values. They'll go against everything they believe in. And to me, it occurred to me many times during that 2020, how we were all involved in this huge Milgram experiment. And that Anthony Fauci was, you know, Dr. Milgram telling us you can violate the constitution, you can censor speech. You can close churches. You can shut businesses. You can ban jury trials. And you can, you know, tell people what they can and can't do.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And you can gaslight them and marginalize them and vilify them. And, you know, no cruelty is too great. I hope everyone feels good. And we also finally understand the magic number. We are the magic number. 33 also finally understand the magic number. We are the magic number. Sadly, we still have to pay our taxes. But otherwise, that's it. That's why we exist.
Starting point is 00:53:22 That is our fate in life. Fate. We are the 33 percent yeah key key code code my friend big code big code big code for we don't know what well that brings me to this continuation of what's going on in that regard uh And that has to do with the one day dictator, Donald Trump. Oh, yes. Just for one day. And by the way, I was watching some news coverage this morning and
Starting point is 00:53:54 Juan Williams was on Fox where he said, and Donald Trump said he's going to be the dictator from day one. No, that's wrong. Juan williams i thought he was kicked off of fox he's back i guess they brought him on he said and he said that it was corrected by one of the other panelists no he says only for one day says yeah okay uh he's a propagandist he's great and this is this is the this is the way this is going to be played because it's actually incredible to me.
Starting point is 00:54:26 But Jim Acosta has a show on CNN. You're kidding. Really? We've never seen this show. It is a goldmine. It's probably the worst thing you've ever seen because Jim Acosta has no personality whatsoever. He sits there stone-faced, and he just kind of reads from the prompter.
Starting point is 00:54:51 He's really a reporter who should be in the field. He is not a host. He's no good. But they have him on there, which really makes me wonder what Discovery, who owns CNN now, which is major shareholders, John Malone, the right winger.
Starting point is 00:55:06 This guy, Jim Acosta, he's one of the last few brand names they have. He's not much of a brand name, and he's sure no good as a host. I'm just saying, from a media perspective, he's recognizable, let's put it that way. You can find people. Hey, they kicked out Don Lemon, kicked out uh the cuomo kid they kicked everybody out well i don't understand how they didn't kick this guy out so let's but let's this is the beginning of his show it's called cnn news hour or something and this is
Starting point is 00:55:40 the very beginning and let's say i got these are four short clips and they're just they're jaw droppers. You're live in the CNN newsroom. I'm Jim Acosta in Washington. We begin this hour with perhaps the harshest warning yet from President Biden about his likely Republican rival for the White House. The president told a fundraiser in California late last night that Donald Trump would destroy American democracy if he somehow wins back the Oval Office. Biden said to the crowd, quote, the greatest threat Trump poses is to our democracy. The president went on to slam Trump's role in the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol, saying, quote, it's despicable, simply despicable. Biden also referred to Trump's comments on Fox earlier this week when the former president was asked whether he wants to become an American dictator. Here is what Trump told Fox. Under no circumstances, you are promising America tonight you would never abuse power as retribution against anybody. Except for day one. Except for day one.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Meaning? I want to close the border and I want to drill. That's not a drill. Now, if there was any doubt about what Trump meant, the host, Sean Hannity, gave him a few chances to step back from those extreme words. But Trump did not. We love this guy. He says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no, other than day one. We're closing the border and we're drilling, drilling, drilling.
Starting point is 00:57:05 After that, I'm not a dictator. As we've noted on this program, for weeks, Trump has repeatedly promised to seek vengeance against his political enemies, praising the leaders of China and North Korea and also promising to vastly expand presidential powers, leading to headlines like these. The Atlantic writing that Trump isn't bluffing and will follow through on his threats, writing that Trump isn't bluffing and will follow through on his threats, including investigating the press for treason, mass roundups, and detention centers for undocumented immigrants.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Wait a minute. He didn't say any of that. He didn't say any of that. Was there more to the Hannity show that we missed? No, no. He didn't say any of that. He did in the past. Some time in the past he said this. He's putting it all together into one horrible package. Now, the second clip here is a discussion of one of the big meetups that Biden had in L.A. where he made these comments.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And it's funny. Again, I'll bring it up. All the time, they keep telling us that Trump's full of it. He says one thing, he does another. He's a liar. He's a liar's liar. But yet we take him very seriously when he says he's going to be a dictator for one day.
Starting point is 00:58:13 This is your thing. I like it a lot. This is perfect. He's a liar. Make up your mind. Except when he says stuff that we want you to believe, he's not a liar. So this is kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:58:24 This clip is too long. I'm sorry for that. It's not a liar so this is kind of interesting that this is clip is too long i'm sorry for that it's not over the time limit which is too much by the way for anyone out there wants to know that's the time limit yes but it's long because it takes forever to get to the point that i want i wanted to make which is that hollywood's a bunch of douchebags led by famous douchebags cnn's kevin liptack is live in Los Angeles for us as the president is in the midst of a weekend fundraising trip in California. Kevin, I imagine the president's words must have gotten folks by surprise at that fundraiser. What more is he saying? Yeah, he is really ramping up these warnings about what President Trump might do if he returns to
Starting point is 00:59:00 office. And certainly they are very stark. Nothing less than the future of American democracy is at stake, according to President Biden. Now, when it comes to that remark that Trump made about being a dictator, President Biden deployed some rueful humor, saying, thank God, only one day, but certainly later on, really underscoring the potential for another Trump presidency is no laughing matter, telling these Democratic donors, literally, I believe the future of American democracy is at stake. The greatest threat Trump poses is to our democracy, because if we lost that, we lose everything. And you really are starting to see President Biden really honing his attacks on Trump, fine-tuning his arguments at these fundraisers, these off-camera fundraisers, giving him a chance to sort of test some material at what will be a central argument of his re-election campaign
Starting point is 00:59:52 next year. And certainly there are some Democrats who want President Biden to be more forceful about President Trump, to make this argument publicly. And when you talk to campaign aides, they do say that that moment is coming that president biden will begin to sharpen his rhetoric but they want to wait until they're sure that americans are paying attention they don't want this falling on deaf ears and you can imagine that these arguments will make their way into television ads digital ads of course that will cost a lot of money and that is why president biden is out here in los angeles this weekend raising money at two important fundraisers one last night with some hollywood heavyweights you know i was talking
Starting point is 01:00:29 to jeffrey katzenberg he's the co-chair of the biden campaign a movie mogul he said this 36 hours will be the most successful when it comes to campaign fundraising for president biden since he launched his campaign in the spring j Jim. Oh, goodness. Katzenberg. Katzenberg. Katzenberg. And you can be sure Rob Reiner was there. Oh, yeah. Hey, Katzenberg, what was that short-form video thing that he poured $2 billion into and failed out of the gate?
Starting point is 01:00:58 What was that thing called? I can't remember. Remember that? Remember that? Yeah, I remember it. It was a troll. What was that thing? It was a turd. It was a troll. What was that? It was a turd.
Starting point is 01:01:05 It was a big turd because he's so smart. Now, the Jim Acosta show on CNN, you have to balance what you want to do when you do these kinds of reports. You're the host. You bring somebody in and he gives you a report and it's on one side. And so normally what you do is you bring somebody in
Starting point is 01:01:21 with maybe a different perspective. No. Why would we do that? Oh, by the way, the trolls want us to mention, yes, we know Norman Lear died. Yes. We were the ones that told you about the Hollywood foundation. Yes, we know. We didn't mention it last show was a big oversight. Oh no, we didn't mention that Norman Lear died. Well, okay. We mentioned it. He was, I looked at my, when I talked to Mimi about it, I said, you know, they've obviously run out of adrenochrome down in L.A. Queeby, Queeby.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I mean, that's what Biden's down there for. He's trying to get some and he can't find any. Queeby, I think. Queeby, Queebus, Queeby. That short form tube tarred, tarred tube. Queeby. Queebus? I don't know. Yeah. Anyway. Yes. Adrenochrome. Yes. That's why Biden's there.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Well, it hasn't hasn't helped. Well, so we get. So we got. The opportunity now to bring somebody in to give us some perspective. OK, here we go. All right. Kevin Liptak reporting from L.A. for us. Kevin, thank you very much let's continue the conversation right now joining me now is the niece of former president trump mary trump uh mary great to have you back on the program really appreciate your time you heard what i know you're so busy doing uh appreciate your time the president was saying
Starting point is 01:02:42 last night at this fundraiser in californiaizing on what Donald Trump has been talking about recently. And I just wanted to get your reaction to what Trump was saying on Fox the other night. A dictator, but only on day one. What was your reaction when you heard that? We need to take Donald at his word to a certain point. We can ignore the second half of that statement. Dictators, last I checked, don't stop being dictators. And he has every intention of destroying American democracy.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And we need to be clear why. It's entirely for his own benefit. Nothing about this is ideological. So in that context, it was it was really um heartening to hear president biden be so direct about what's facing this country i agree that it is too early uh to assume that people are paying attention and we don't want that argument to get normalized which has been part of the problem the last seven years uh Almost everything Donald does seems to be normalized. But we've seen what he's done in the past. And I think what he's starting to do now is push the envelope and get people familiar with the concept of his dictatorial tendencies so that they just write it off the way they've written off all of his other egregious
Starting point is 01:04:03 anti-democratic behavior. Oh, she forgot to mention 5D chess. I mean, yes, this is so smart. He said, build the wall and drill, drill, drill. But this is really about him being a dictator for himself, because when you destroy America, it's great for business. You know, the funny thing is, is that do any of these people have any sense of how the American system works? It's got three. It's balance. It does not work where some guy can just waltz in and the things he said he would and what these people are doing is projecting because they know that they are the ones who
Starting point is 01:04:51 will hang that's what's going on oh if this guy comes in we're in trouble i mean not mary trump i mean oh mary trump says she's stooge but the fact that she's even who is she i mean she's just some brando but but let's when you have a podcast a cable podcast you might as well bring in the randos so you have a so let's let her finish up with her doubling down on this whole thing so we can see the real logic at play here and the insanity of these Democrats in general. That leads me to this question, Mary, and that is, I mean, do you think Trump would stop on day one? I mean, to say he would only be a dictator on the first day, I suppose if you're the dictator on the first day,
Starting point is 01:05:34 you could say, well, tomorrow I'll be dictator, too, because you're the dictator at that point. Oh, that's great logic, Jim. I mean, what do you think? Does he stop on day one? Every day from then on will be day one. Let's put it that way. He has no intention of stopping. He knows why he needs to get back into the White House. Those reasons won't disappear on a day two or day 100. So we have to take this threat incredibly seriously. And part of that threat isn't just Donald's rhetoric. It's the reception that rhetoric receives. We heard the laughing and the cheering in that audience. We hear what his sycophants and enablers like Sean Hannity and like practically every single
Starting point is 01:06:20 elected member in Congress who is a Republican is willing to put up with, is willing to allow, and is willing to support. Sick offense. That's interesting. That's a talking point. I'll get to it in a minute. Okay. Why is Trump saying drill, drill, drill? He ran on the wall in 2016. I think it's weak. Honestly, I think it's weak. I think it's weak i think by now people have just have figured out that it doesn't have as much to do with a wall as it does with parole and i'll give that to lindy hop uh parole catch and release etc i mean it's it's the policy it's not the wall it's the policy the policy and and that the agency that's in charge of it just follows up the oil oil oil thing is a direct drill drill drill thing sorry is a direct counter to nikki
Starting point is 01:07:12 haley i had dinner with the oil baron as promised ah here we go the texas oil baron who has actually uh met with nikki haley and has shown her around the oil fields. She had good questions. And she, according to him, she is big oil all the way. Why are you doing this? I said. And he said, I need a backup plan. Understandable.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Wait, wait, wait. I got confused with the way you put that. Oh, if him he asked her what no why are you doing this no i asked you asking him was that that was me asking him why are you asking him yes why is he doing what why are you pandering to nikki haley why are you supporting her i don't like to be fair i don't know i don't know if he supported financially but certainly his other billionaire buddy did oh a lot of billionaires are in on nicki haley and he's also an oil guy he had her out he had a big fundraiser out at the ranch uh his friend so my friend the oil baron says we need a backup plan in case something happens to Trump. Because he knows that Trump is all in on big oil, in drilling, etc. And I think that's why Trump is doubling down.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Drill, drill, drill, drill, drill. Oil guys, don't worry, I got you covered. Yeah, don't give her any more money. Yes, exactly. I got you covered. It's all going to be good. Now, he did mention something else. He is very confused and very mad at something you brought up, the methane leaks. He says, the methane leaks are bull crap. They send you a report and it's just an algo. He says, they run an algorithm. We have no methane leaks. And if we had them, we'd love to know exactly where they are because we'd like to plug those up. He says, they just send a report that has algorithms and says,
Starting point is 01:09:10 well, according to our algorithm, you have methane leaks and here's what you have to pay in fines. Oh, interesting. And then he said, where does the money go? This is, this is the favorite question. Well, that's also Andrew Hor horowitz's thing where does the money go this is always wondering where the money goes and i said well here's what i know how it works in the finance industry what happens and i said this is a tip is a tip for you what you do is you say oh okay well how because the the bank guys they do these deals with the department of the treasury so i don't know how this works with the department of energy they do a deal and they say well what we'll do is we'll give all this money this you know so let's say it's 25 million dollars in fines
Starting point is 01:09:53 we'll give that to these non-profits you see and then the treasury for banks but in this case doe i guess would say okay give that to those guys and what happens you just gave 25 million dollars to non-profits you get to write that off of your taxes nice that's how it typically works so anyway the uh the oil guy uh oil baron my friend will keep me updated on progress and he had one other thing for me, which I wanted to let you know. He goes hunting on King Ranch once a year, and he comes home with, I got to look it up,
Starting point is 01:10:36 with Nilgai. N-I-L-G-A-I. Nilgai. Have you heard of this animal? No. But I have heard of this animal? No. But I have heard of Oryx. It's not Oryx. And you're in Texas.
Starting point is 01:10:50 It's not Oryx, but it is one of those antelope-like animals. And he's going to give us a whole bunch of Nilgai meat products. Okay, good. And I'll send some to you, too, because I know you're going to love it. He says, oh, it's beautiful. It's just like, he says it's very similar to Oryx and Antelope. So I'm excited. Antelope's delicious.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I've had that. So, well, did he have any dispute with my analysis of the oil loss or the methane loss or anything? Which I said, the refineries don't like this because if it's happening, then they're losing product. They're losing money. Well, no, he not only does he agree with you, he says it's not true. He says they're just sending him a report that has an algorithm. Yeah, I didn't know that. Okay, I know that now.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yeah, it's not even true. It's just bull crap. Could you please show me where the leak is? We'll go and plug it. We'd love to know where that is. Yeah, that makes sense yeah i mean you run a refinery there's not i mean there's a lot of horrible product that's going here and there every which way and you can walk through a refinery right now and you won't smell
Starting point is 01:11:56 anything there's no no no smell of anything and if you do smell something there's an issue that has to be taken care of immediately. Definitely. This oil baron, he's a sweetheart. I love this guy. He's going to be one for the show for a long time. No good. He'll straighten us out.
Starting point is 01:12:15 He will definitely straighten us out. Especially, I got a note from Atomic Rod Adams. And he's back. And I don't know what's happened, man. He's like, I love you guys. You know, I know I've been away for a long... He's been away for a long time. He sent me a whole explainer, but he says, I have one disagreement with you.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Climate change is real. I'm like, oh, my God. They got to him. I think they got to Atomic Rod. Something happened there. And he's all in on man-made climate change. Now, he sent me, I struck back. I said, dude, don't do this to me.
Starting point is 01:12:50 We love nuclear. We're on board with you. You don't have to sigh off me with this stuff. He wants us to know that it's very, very, very, very real. So I'm going to read through his argumentation because we owe him that because he's atomic rock. Well, then send him some counter material. He's obviously not getting it. No, he has material,
Starting point is 01:13:09 but he answered me this morning, so I haven't read through it because it's long. Anyway, I was just surprised. You know, like, oh, man, it's like, you know, well, maybe one door closes, atomic rod, oil baron,
Starting point is 01:13:20 one door opens up. Well, I want to do a quick mea culpa and to discuss just for one second the testimony of the three uh college presidents yes the mea culpa is i said penn state at least once gosh people were like tell john it's you pen i'm like i'm not his assistant. Why do people think... I got a couple of notes. But most people think that I am your intern.
Starting point is 01:13:52 You bitch about this constantly. We don't need to hear it again. Well, yeah, we do. Stop. It's john at Dvorak. You know what they answer when I say email him? He never answers. Yeah, well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:14:08 I answer mostly. i mostly answer in fact they did answer to the to dame that uh word poet uh baronet test of the rhyming line sent an email she happens to be a um an executive uh at the professional staff at Berkeley. Oh. And she called me out on my whole analysis about the three presidents, and nobody else has brought any of what I'm going to read from her up at all. And I realize this is exactly right. She says that you should go with Occam's razor. There was no conspiracy. The presidents of Harvard, Penn,
Starting point is 01:14:47 UPenn, and MIT were stymied by their own wokeness. How? One, Title IX laws. As a professional staff in higher education, the presidents of Harvard and the rest of them all received hours-long training. You don't take these trainings. I have for various things,
Starting point is 01:15:06 harassment and whatever, but I guess these people all take training on Title IX and what constitutes harassment and bullying according to Title IX. These trainings make very clear that to be considered harassment, behavior must be, quote, pervasive, severe, and persistent, not a single instance. A single instance may not be enough to constitute harassment. It has to be a one single event or two pervasive and persistent. So if a stupid freshman yells genocide to Jews in an auditorium class and runs out the door, that will be written off as a young kid being stupid. Anyway, she goes on and on with this, describing Title IX as being, they were caught up in it and they were trying to beat around the bush about context.
Starting point is 01:15:56 And I retorted with her, I said, what about this? If these women were so handcuffed, that's what it seems like. They were handcuffed by Title IX because they could get sued for not following Title IX, which was presented and produced by our government. They should have said on stage, I can't answer a yes or no question like that because I'm handcuffed by Title nine something you congress has approved and made me abide by well first throwing it right back at him okay a couple things um it is now known that uh the upenn lady and the harvard lady not the mit lady had 1500 an hour lawyers prepping them for two days so that's so yeah that comes back to title nine but that's where all that went wrong they were
Starting point is 01:16:52 lawyered up and they were reading their scripts and that's why those two were um where their answers were similar i think the mit lady went oh that's good well i'll jump in on that lady was said nothing but here's so i wanted to get an alternative opinion from liberal intellectual elites because it's much more fun to figure out what the other side of thinking is thinking and lo and behold my hate listen twice a week did not disappoint of course i'm talking Pivot with the illustrious Kara Swisher who has a mouth on her. My God, she drops more F-bombs than I ever have. But that's not who we're talking about today.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Today it is Prof G. You know him as the professor from New York University, professor in marketing, who is a Jew. I'm sorry, who happens to be Jewish. And he had a very fun, no agenda like take on these presidents. In particular, now he's talking about gay, President Gay of Harvard. Oh, I thought it was embarrassing for them. They came across as weak and over-lawyered. They were clearly coached to try and seem empathetic, but say nothing. They were smirky. And and I just want to read a statement that President Gay put out. She said, like many of
Starting point is 01:18:20 you, I've watched in pain and horror the events events unfolding triggered by callous and depraved actions we have been here before too many times and that familiarity is part of the heartbreak and outrage of this moment even as a global fight against the pandemic has forged new bonds and inspired new acts of profound generosity we are confronted again by old hatreds and the enduring legacies of racism and inequality so she put that's a powerful statement. It's accurate. But she was writing about George Floyd or the murder of George Floyd. And that is these presidents have been unequivocal.
Starting point is 01:18:55 He did a no agenda switcheroo. That was a good one. Yes. And that is these presidents have been unequivocal and strong and resolute about other outrageous things that have happened. And and here's here's the problem. It's not the issue of whether it's not around whether this is hate speech or free speech. That's not the issue here, in my view, or what's causing the controversy, because I would argue that, you know, that if you're a group of students are walking in a march and they start saying from the river to the sea i'm not sure that doesn't qualify as
Starting point is 01:19:32 free speech now we can have an argument over that but the the problem here is the inconsistency there you go now i thought that was quite good i wanted to give him his props on that that was that was a good switcheroo. Yeah, but every clock is right twice a day. But that's exactly what people are seeing. They're seeing the inconsistency and saying, oh. And it's beautiful because this is drawing light. This is not, you know, we expected, uh,
Starting point is 01:20:05 well, we hoped, I guess, academia, higher education would eventually crumble under, you know, maybe the student loans or something had to happen, but now they screwed themselves.
Starting point is 01:20:16 It's beautiful to watch. And, and donors are pulling out and people are waking up to like, what are, what are you, do you punch? You guys are dicks. And there's also...
Starting point is 01:20:27 It takes forever for the public to figure out what's going on. It takes years sometimes. Years. And to wit, this is a report from Turkish radio and television. If you want to get the Palestinian slant on everything, this is where you go. They did... This is a quickie a report of the pro-palestine demonstrators marching on wall street the signs were professional they were all
Starting point is 01:20:56 socialist party world workers party anarchy flags etc over the last couple of weeks i've attended many pro-palestine demonstrations throughout the United States. But I can tell you this one in downtown Manhattan today is the largest crowd I've seen. And they're marching right now towards Wall Street. And their goal is to shut it down. Their goal is to send a message from New York all the way to Gaza. We're in downtown Manhattan today and we're marching towards Wall Street. What's the significance of that? There are thousands of people here
Starting point is 01:21:29 marching towards Wall Street because we know that it's the center of financial capital, the center of U.S. capitalism, which is the engine of the Zionist genocide machine that has so far killed 20,000 Palestinians in just two months. So we have a large coalition of people
Starting point is 01:21:46 here from all kinds of different backgrounds and we also have jewish people here demonstrating for palestine so the whole thing is against capitalism it's these are socialists and marxists they don't actually care about gaza they see an opportunity and they're seizing it. And of course it's not going to work, but well, it goes where it's worse than that. Oh no. Gambling. What? So, so, so we hit one of our producers who happens to be a happens to be what john a gorgeous broadway actress wow you do get the good producers now um i get emily the the germ barge she well she sent a clip from one of these uh pre-december. December 8th was supposed to be this huge protest around the country. One day walkouts
Starting point is 01:22:48 left and right. And the only place it happened was Wall Street and I guess the Washington Post. Except for those two guys. There's nothing going on. But this guy gives a speech that is very, unfortunately, very difficult to listen to. I ran it through Adobe,
Starting point is 01:23:03 made it ten times worse yeah now this guy's giving us can i just give you a tip a tip um that trt report i tried it through adobe sucked i ran it through the um what is that i gave you the link to that it's the open source love that guy um the vocal remover and isolation which you would typically think is just to remove music or background stuff yeah i'll have to try that it's very good for removing crowd noise and stuff well this is yeah the problem is a dual problem echo and crowd noise man is this gonna if it sucks i mean well if it's if you can't hear you can't hear, you can't hear. But this is an unbelievably interesting couple of clips. This is the Destroy Israel clip.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Oh, hold on. Destroy Israel. Here we go. Israel is losing ground politically, diplomatically, financially. It is losing ground in every possible sphere of life. We have become Biden's worst nightmare. Because now every time, every time they organize a meeting,
Starting point is 01:24:11 every time that they have an event, every time they hold a press conference, every time they have to make one decision or another regarding Palestine or anything else in this country now, the question is, are those protesters going to show up?
Starting point is 01:24:26 What streets are they going to disrupt? What traffic are they going to hold up? What chaos are they going to unleash? Because when we finally deal that final blow to Israel, when the state of Israel is finally destroyed and erased from history... Oh man,
Starting point is 01:24:43 you so should have run that through the vocal removal. Well, anyway, the idea is to destroy Israel. Mm-hmm. And this is a millennial thing. All the millennials, including like, the older millennials in particular, they're all in on this idea of destroying Israel. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Well, what is the point? I mean, what does that accomplish? Well, the second part of this kind of explains what it accomplishes. If you can try to make it out, I'll explain what he said if you can't hear it. Here we go. Well, here's what I did.
Starting point is 01:25:18 While you were talking, while the clip was running, I pulled number two through my AI machine. Hopefully, this will be better. Oops. I need to open the fader of course that would help hold on this is going this is going to be this is going to be genius if the palestinian people with no army with no air force with no navy was able to defeat israel and the u.s what is impossible what can we do i know for a fact i know for sure i feel it in my bones i feel it in the completeness of our material conditions now that when we defeat
Starting point is 01:25:54 israel in the u.s empire we will actually have been able to know how to dismantle capitalism here in the united states yeah see it was better it was better, right? It was. Yeah. And so the idea is this whole process is to dismantle capitalism. And America. This is just the straight-up Marxist play. And everyone's buying into, oh yeah, those poor Palestinians. This has got
Starting point is 01:26:18 nothing to do with the Palestinians. That is the most racist, genocidal thing you can be, is abuse those people for your own socialist Marxist needs. That's what makes them worse. So everybody supporting Palestine is really supporting the death of America. All that was missing from the guy's speech was death to America,
Starting point is 01:26:45 which I mentioned in the newsletter. Yes. And it's like death to America. When you see the Palestinian protests, that's what you're dealing with. But I got a kick out of the fact that at the very beginning, he says, we're Biden's worst nightmare. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Yeah, Genocide Joe. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There was something I learned amidst all of this about the boycott, divest and sanction just, you know, Roger Waters and, you know, some people yapping. There's actual laws that have been created for state contracts. In much of the United States, there may be penalties if you decide to boycott the state of Israel. 37 U.S. states have enacted some form of anti-boycott divestment sanctions or BDS legislation. It typically requires parties signing contracts with the state government
Starting point is 01:27:53 not to engage in a boycott of Israel. Even to apply for such a contract, I had to first sign a pledge saying that I would not boycott Israel or not only Israel, get this, Israel or any territory it controls. There have been several courts across the United States that have reached the most important question here. Does the Constitution, does the First Amendment forbid states, the federal government from passing laws that target the anti-BDS movement. I want to thank all Texans for the support. In Texas, a federal court struck down the entirety of the Texas law after our client,
Starting point is 01:28:39 Bahia Amawi, was asked to sign a contract that asked her to promise Israel, to promise Israel that she wouldn't boycott. But the state simply passed a new law that applies to companies instead of individuals. Even when the laws allow for free speech, there needs to be a social climate that allows folks to freely express their views. But two months into heightened tensions and rhetoric surrounding the Israel-Hamas war, that climate may not be now. I'm not sure about, you know, this is TRT, so I don't know about a law,
Starting point is 01:29:14 but that's interesting. Didn't realize it went that far. Anyway, Genocide Joe's representative at the united nations on the security council did not do themselves any favor with the veto vote the u.s veto in the u.n security council was not unexpected but the cries of outrage are now growing louder china's permanent representative to the u.n zhang jun called the decision hypocritical and self-deceiving. The Iranian foreign minister warned there could be an uncontrollable explosion of the situation in the Middle East if America continues its support.
Starting point is 01:29:55 The UAE's Deputy UN Ambassador, Mohammad Abu Shahab, said the decision sends the wrong message to Palestinian civilians. sends the wrong message to Palestinian civilians. Amnesty International Secretary General Agnes Calamard describes the U.S.'s action as a callous disregard for civilian suffering. Doctors Without Borders said the U.S. now stands alone in casting its vote against humanity. The U.S. is the one sending weaponry, and warships have been surrounding Gaza for 20 years. The arms and rockets have been manufactured in America, in Western countries, and they support Israel to kill the youth, children, women, and the elderly. God is our saviour. When America vetoed the ceasefire at the United Nations and everywhere else,
Starting point is 01:30:38 this veto is against the people who are dying in shelling all day and all night with American weapons. The U.S. veto has prevented a halt to Israel's brutal attack, but the cries for a ceasefire are now growing stronger as the evidence of genocide mounts against Israel. Yeah, there you go. Everybody hates America now. Well done, Joe. Well done.
Starting point is 01:31:01 I'm sure your base will love that. Now we need to counter this message. This is no good. So let's call Joe and Mika over there at MSNBC, and let's launch the new campaign. We need to blame somebody. We need to blame this on somebody. And these people, they're taking it.
Starting point is 01:31:21 I mean, they're going with false flag now. They're not saying it, but whatever it is. Just as a reminder, we had the head of the Council on Foreign Relations on that show telling them to kick off a new campaign. Well, no, but that was a campaign that was to end Ukraine. This is the different war. Well, I know, but it's... Oh, they get the messages. Yeah, they get the messages. Yeah, they get the messages.
Starting point is 01:31:46 That's your point. Yeah. Well, it's Richard Engel, so... This time they brought in Richard Engel. Richard Engel? Okay, CIA. The message is, it's Bibi Netanyahu's fault,
Starting point is 01:32:02 people. We heard in your piece the frustration with the Israeli military response, the time that it took on October 7th to reach those kibbutzes. We were talking about that a bit yesterday on this show. What do officials say about that long span of time before they can get there? They are saying absolutely nothing. They are postponing that question until after the war is over. And many Israelis initially were accepting that.
Starting point is 01:32:29 And they said, fine, this is a time of national crisis, national emergency. The investigations will be held later. But as time passes, they are demanding answers. How could it possibly have taken, in just that kibbutz, eight hours? Other places it was longer. We spoke to people who are hiding by the side of the road for 10, 12, 14 hours, some cases 24 hours. This is a country with an active military, active police force, has lots of planes, lots of helicopters. How could it possibly, and it's a small country, of planes, lots of helicopters. How could it possibly, and it's a small country, how could they have missed what looked like an army crossing the border? The Hamas militants crossed in Israel,
Starting point is 01:33:12 most of them in a militarized uniform, in green, many of them in vehicles, on motorcycles. They then were setting fires, rampaging. The Israelis throughout were calling each other, communicating. I've spoken to families of survivors who managed themselves to send friends and relatives to go rescue people before there was any kind of military or police response. So there was not just an intelligence failure to not anticipate this attack, but then a complete failure in responding to it. And the official line is, yes, there was a failure. We will deal with that at a later time, and there will be a full and thorough investigation. Ah, so the message is clear. Thank you very much, CIA guy. So, Mika, Mika, come on, baby, do your business. Richard, so Israel also now saying it has detained hundreds of people suspected of terrorism.
Starting point is 01:34:07 What more can you tell us about that? So there is a considerable amount of confusion about these images that many people are finding disturbing. They were broadcast on Israeli television extensively yesterday, They show they were broadcast on Israeli television extensively yesterday, and they show at least 100 Palestinians on the ground stripped down to their underwear, holding their their head in their hands with his released by the military. He didn't deny them, but he said he didn't know if or when the Israeli soldiers may have taken them. But he said that the main mission is to confront Hamas and go after Hamas suspects wherever they are. The Israeli media said that they were men who were arrested in Gaza and that some of them included Hamas suspects who turned themselves in. Palestinians are viewing this very differently. They say that this was an attempt by Israeli forces to humiliate Palestinians
Starting point is 01:35:15 and break the will of the people in Gaza. This response time question is not just a little follow-up we'll leave for later. This is a disturbing reality eight hours israel is the size of what massachusetts maybe uh crank it up benjamin netanyahu was very quick to declare war good one he could assess the situation and realize that israel was war, but eight hours to get to women who are being raped, by the way, for a year, for months, disregarding a female analyst who said this is coming. There's a 40 page document spelling it out. And I want to spell this out even more specifically for you.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Think about it. This is a small country. These gate crossings are militarized. You're going to tell me they don't have cameras. You're going to tell me they don't have panic buttons. You're going to tell me they There was no way to know that we immediately need to respond and get there within minutes. This is a problematic question. Keep going. Keep going. And it's it's fair to ask. It should be asked now. And quite frankly, how does the administration go forward without knowing the answer? We're suffering the repercussions here in the united states we're learning a lot about attitudes and the response to this complex situation but that question needs to be answered that wasn't my bell by the way for some reason they're using a bell now i think that was her
Starting point is 01:36:56 your time's up from the control room so that's there it is there's your answer it's bb net yahoo's fault yeah but here's what's... That's stage one of the... I don't want to say it. Of the op. I'll say it. No problem. This is stage one. Stage two, which is already starting to float around and surface, is Netanyahu knew this was coming. He wanted it to happen so he could make his move against the palestinians
Starting point is 01:37:25 makes nothing but sense because he did this on purpose yeah it wasn't a failure by of intelligence no of course that's that is the that's why i said they're moving towards false no he's done yeah yeah yeah and that and then the woke win and yeah and is Israel goes all queer. Have you seen the queer protests in Israel? Queers for Palestine? Yeah, and queers for Israel. This is the untold part of the story.
Starting point is 01:38:05 I guess somebody even came out and said, Israel is probably the most gay country in the world. This whole thing is simmering underneath this. Yeah. Well, that was part of the whole protest against him, that this is what we know. All those protests were, as i was told from boots on the ground very similar to black lives matter matters uh during trump yeah um now they do
Starting point is 01:38:33 have an out they've created an out um yaya sinwa that's the guy we're now after yaya sinwa if we can yeah yeah yeah if we can get yaya then i think we can end this. What is the very latest in terms of the fighting? Well, almost impossible to judge on the accuracy of the reports coming from the Israeli military. But they do say that they're making progress. They say that Hamas's military structures are beginning to break down, that their brigade structures are beginning to collapse as more and more of their fighters are killed. The Israelis claim around about 7,000 Hamas fighters
Starting point is 01:39:13 have been killed since the war started after October the 7th. As I said, impossible to verify that. But if it's true, that's about 25% of Hamas's armed strength, and it would indicate that it is beginning to fall apart. And there are signs, too, of the morale is beginning to collapse a bit. Hamas fighters surrendering in the northern part of Gaza in the Jabalia refugee camp. In the south, Yahya Sinwa, that's the commander of Hamas in Gaza's house, has been surrounded. Israel's describing that as a symbolic victory for them, nothing more than that. But say they will get Yahya Sinwa and that they will kill him eventually.
Starting point is 01:39:55 That he's got nowhere he can run to. Perhaps that's true, but for the moment, the fighting is going on very, very intensely, house to house, from top to bottom of Gaza. The Israelis have Han Yunus, the main city in the south of Gaza, surrounded now with armor. And they're pressing forward into the city on the ground. At the same time, they're calling people to evacuate, as you said in the introduction to this report. Yeah, I think that's the guy. Yaya. time they're calling people to evacuate as you said in the introduction to this report yeah i think that's the guy yeah yeah sit was a good name he's got the kind of name that we were always looking for like that cigarette guy sig sig or whoever it was in africa there's been a bunch of
Starting point is 01:40:34 these characters they always have stupid names yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah is easy to remember we can remember yeah yeah it's easy and uh you know it rhymes with certain songs have the yeah sitting in my yeah yeah yeah yeah uh-huh so yeah yeah so they're gonna get him even though they have his house surrounded i don't know why they just don't walk in and get him but right now it's around and i guess they said eventually they'll get in there somehow and instead of just bombing in place and you know so and this will only last as long as netanyahu can come up with something to save his own hide because he's got to come up with a counter to the counter. He'll do something.
Starting point is 01:41:09 He's in trouble. Well, no, he's, I mean, really, the only thing he needs to do here is just keep going. But eventually, you know, because the Guterres, he invoked Article, I think, 99 or something of... Oh, Guterres is just an Israel hater. So when you invoke... Well, at this point, we need to stop the war. The killing can stop any time now. You know, I think everyone's made their point.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Well, somebody's got to come up with a way to do it. That's the problem. It seems that all these Western countries can get into these cragmires I think everyone's made their point. Well, somebody's got to come up with a way to do it. That's the problem. It seems that all these Western countries can get into these cragmires and they can't get out. Here's another interesting irony. We always bitch and moan about the Asians and the way they deal with things. They have to come out. They have to save face.
Starting point is 01:42:05 It's so important for them because their egos are all tied up and saving face i have never seen anything worse than the americans the europeans and everybody outside of asia having to save face we're the ones who have to save face we just can't walk away from anything oh because we're embarrassing that's true it's true and but and i i'm going to move away from this for a second go but since it's still genocide joe back to biden because just when we're getting ready to you know the message has gone out hey we got to stop this we got to stop the ukraine thing um and that's now being used for some border stuff which is all bullcrap they're going to stick it all in there they're going to give ukraine more money for a little bit longer but we needed to ratchet it up one more step just one more and this is a setup
Starting point is 01:42:58 by kirby and then i'll play the the actual biden clip and so we can't support Ukraine. Their chief advisor yesterday said they're likely to lose this war if they lose the U.S. support. And Putin gets all of Ukraine. Then what? Then where does he go? Because right then he's up against the eastern flank of NATO. And if you think the cost of supporting Ukraine is high now, just imagine how much higher it's going to be, not just in national treasure, but in American blood, if he starts going after one of our NATO allies, because as the president also said, we take our Article 5 commitments very seriously. So what he's saying here now, this is, I mean, this is not even to be taken seriously, is if we don't keep using Ukrainian men as cannon fodder to be blown up every single day.
Starting point is 01:43:46 There's another Abrams tank. There's another Bradley vehicle. These things are getting blown up one after another. Yeah, once they show up, they get blown up. They just get blown up continuously. It's all bull crap. It's all lies. It's not true.
Starting point is 01:43:59 So now we're saying, you know, if we don't go for the original truce, which I would like to point out, according, I will use the language of our producers who are very mad, very mad. What are they mad about? Well, we didn't call Henry Kissinger a war criminal. You see. So I will call. I don't want to interrupt your train of thought. So I had a guy. you're going to, right?
Starting point is 01:44:26 You're going to. Yeah, but I'm going to. Some guy writes me, you know he's a war criminal. Why don't you say it? You know, why don't you say it? And so, you know who this is. Some Dutch guy. And so I'm, I think.
Starting point is 01:44:39 And so I still want somebody to give me an example. How is he a war criminal? Cambodia. Oh, really? He went over to Cambodia? I didn't know that. I thought he was over here all the time. You mean he advised Nixon, perhaps, to bomb Cambodia,
Starting point is 01:44:55 and then Nixon bombed Cambodia? Or he advised Lyndon Johnson to go deeper into North Vietnam and bomb him? I mean, he advised one president after the other. It's the president who's the war criminal. He doesn't have to take Henry Kissinger's advice. Yet when Lyndon Johnson died, nobody said he was a war criminal. When Nixon died, nobody called him a war criminal. But poor Henry Kissinger, he dies. Somehow he's the war criminal, but poor Henry Kissinger, he dies somehow. He's the war criminal because all he did was sit on his ass at a desk. He didn't pull a gun out. He didn't carry a gun. He didn't shoot anybody, but he's a war criminal for what? For being a Jew. Come on, you know this. It's obvious.
Starting point is 01:45:37 So by the same logic, Boris Johnson is a war criminal because he thwarted the peace. He prolonged the war between Russia and Ukraine. This is fact and known and there's no disagreement over this. Nobody has denied it. And all Putin wanted was the buffer, which he's going to get eventually. 700,000 men have died, I'll guess. Look, I'm no Hamas health authority. But when it comes to Ukraine, those numbers are probably pretty accurate.
Starting point is 01:46:11 A lot of Russians, a lot of Ukrainians died over this silliness, this stupidity, probably just to cover up the crimes of our political elites, including the Bidens, including the Pelosi kids, the John Kerry kids. The labs? The labs. All the bio labs all over Ukraine? Nobody's talking about that anymore.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Covering up all of these crimes, the money laundering, the cyber crime, the hookers, all of it. There's always hookers involved. To cover all of that up, to create an even better crime state
Starting point is 01:46:45 no we had to delay all that and just kill some people who cares ursula's involved they're all involved in this this is no secret to us we try to just deconstruct media anyway to bring it back um this is now the new gambit is, no, no, if Ukraine falls, then they're going to attack what? Yeah, this is the domino theory. Poland? All over again from the 1960s. Yes, Poland, is that who they're going to attack?
Starting point is 01:47:18 Really? Yeah, Poland, that'll be the day. But you've got, well, let's listen to the current president. Good afternoon, everyone. I'd like to speak to you today about an urgent responsibility the Congress has to uphold the national security needs of the United States and, quite frankly, of our partners as well. This cannot wait. Congress needs to pass supplemental funding for Ukraine before they break for the holiday resources. It's as simple as that.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Frankly, I think it's stunning that we've gotten to this point in the first place. While Congress, Republicans and Congress are willing to give Putin the greatest gift he could hope for and abandon our global leadership, not just Ukraine but beyond that. If Putin takes Ukraine, he won't stop there. It's important to see the long run here. He's going to keep going. He's made that pretty clear. If Putin attacks a NATO ally, then we'll have something that we don't seek and that we don't have today.
Starting point is 01:48:21 American troops fighting Russian troops. American troops fighting Russian troops, American troops fighting Russian troops if he moves into other parts of NATO. Extreme Republicans are playing chicken with our national security, holding Ukraine's funding hostage to their extreme partisan border policies. And now they're willing to literally kneecap Ukraine on the battlefield and damage our national security in the process. Ukraine on the battlefield and damage our national security in the process.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Well, buckle up, everybody, because I do not put it beyond these people at all to create some kind of false flag. I'm going to say it. I'll just say it. And they want war so bad. No, I know everyone's going to say, no, it's the Zionists. No, it's Joe Biden. It's Blinken. It's Obama. It's all these people. They're all horrible. They love war. They don't care. They don't care. We should be happy that Putin is reserved. And by the way, he's, of course, running for re-election. BBC time. President Putin wasn't even looking at the camera when he announced today he was seeking another
Starting point is 01:49:22 six years in office. His muffled words were picked up by a nearby microphone at a ceremony to award medals to soldiers fighting in Ukraine. He was told by one of them, Russia needs you, to which he replied, I will not hide that I have had different thoughts at different times, but it's now time to make a decision. But now is the right time, the time when the decision needs to be made. I will run for the position of President of the Russian Federation. When it'll be Mr. Putin's fifth term and with leading opposition figures
Starting point is 01:49:57 either imprisoned or in exile, voting is expected to be a formality and his re-election assured. is expected to be a formality and his re-election assured. Now, analysis of this is even more interesting from the BBC, because as we know, election rigging doesn't happen anywhere. No, Trump is an idiot. It was the fairest election ever. But when it comes to Putin... And there's clearly no doubt in his mind and the minds of those that surround him
Starting point is 01:50:27 that he will be re-elected. There's no question about that. And we even have already a sense of what it's likely to be in terms of the result. Apparently, Putin's spin doctors and political technicians are working on a 75 to 80 percent share of the vote on a 70 percent turnout because they want to make some kind of grand gesture about how the Russian people are behind them. But that said, although the outcome of the election is not in doubt, the interesting thing about Russian elections is how much work the Kremlin will have to do to get that result. In theory, it can just rig the whole thing, especially now because it's introducing voting over three days and a lot of electronic voting, which makes rigging even simpler than
Starting point is 01:51:17 before. However, if you rig it too obviously, too offensively, shall we say, not only does it mean that you don't win the kind of public legitimacy that you hope for, but also there's a risk that it sparks public protests. It has in the past. 2011, 2012, we saw the largest protests in Russia since 1991 because of that reason. So instead, a lot of it is how do you pre-rig it, buying off constituencies and in particular making sure that you stack the campaign so that none of the other candidates look at all appealing or credible so there it is don't worry besides the fact that putin is clearly has cancer and is dead we'll be dead any minute now he looks so sick no no he's gonna rig his own election this is exactly how insane we become now
Starting point is 01:52:06 we have two new puppets on the playing field this is important to pay attention to because zelensky is done at once he went with the hey man give us some credit give us some credit now he was done he doesn't have the juice juice j-u-i-c-E, Troll Room. Okay, the juice. You got to clarify everything to these trolls. You know, his recent appearance in front of Congress was canceled. So we have two puppets on the scene. Now, for the Republicans, we have Ruslan Stefanchuk, head of Ukrainian parliament. He is this huge, I mean, the guy has got to be six foot seven. Here he is with shaking Mike Johnson's hand, the Speaker of the House,
Starting point is 01:53:02 with all black military style fatigues. And he is, in fact, number two in line should anything happen to Zelensky. But then, all of a sudden, I'm going to think military-industrial complex puppet pops up. Welcome back, Poroshenko! Hello and welcome to TED.TED, France 24's flagship interview show. Our guest today is Petro Poroshenko. Hello and welcome to TED. TED, France 24's flagship interview show. Our guest today is Petro Poroshenko. He is the former president of Ukraine and the leader of the opposition. He joins us from Kiev, the capital of Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Thank you very much, Mr. Poroshenko. It's a pleasure. Thank you for the invitation. Mr. Poroshenko, the U.S. Senate has decided for now to withhold a major package of financial and military aid for Ukraine. There is a forthcoming European Union summit next week also to decide whether there should be financial and military aid to Ukraine. No guarantee that there will be agreement on this. guarantee that there will be agreement on this. Are you worried that the West is losing faith in Ukraine and is not going to provide Ukraine with the financial and military assistance it needs? First of all, you should understand that this next week, the next seven days, is one of the most important days in Ukrainian history and undoubtedly very important for Europe and for the world.
Starting point is 01:54:31 That situation, this is not just a package for assistance Ukraine, we discussed with the United States, this is the investment in their American security, in their American defense capability. And with that situation, I hate the idea that Ukraine can appear the hostage of different other questions, including the question for the internal policy for the next year election. Now, if I had to bet on it, I'd say Poroshenko is the guy. He's the guy that is going to be brought in to create the truce that we will get American weapons defense. This has all
Starting point is 01:55:13 been fleshed out, I think, already. Poroshenko, who was brought back to Ukraine to face treason and, you know, whatever, you know, treason charges, literally treason charges. So now he's there just hanging out, doing little interviews with Deutsche Welle. I think he's the guy. He's the guy that will be brought in. The truce will be signed. This guy's a CIA guy.
Starting point is 01:55:38 He'll be fine. As is Deutsche Welle. Thank you. Did you hear them leading the witness, by the way, with that question? Yeah, well, he's amateur so i think that's that's where we're at i think that's that is the that's the basic yeah there's something going on and i think the reason for all this money right now just before if they keep talking about before the holidays is because this is when the fiscal year is going to end for a couple of these uh these giant uh defense contractors and they
Starting point is 01:56:10 need to get their bonuses figured out and it's always a piece of the action and so they're going to get their christmas bonuses this year they're not going to get it next year and so they got to get that put put aside and that's what the reason for the panic is. Yes. Yes. There's, let me see. I'm going to bring in AI into this conversation because there is some AI news. As you know, AI, it's the future of bull crap. bullcrap future of humor if you watch enough of these
Starting point is 01:56:46 clips of hillary well well here's here's a good one i like this ai which of course you know we have regulation everywhere this is ai is the most dangerous thing in the world if you ever wanted proof that ai was bad al jazeera has the latest on the ai that is killing Palestinians. More than two months of Israeli bombing have turned the Gaza Strip into a hellscape. Entire neighborhoods have been wiped out, made uninhabitable. With more than 16,000 Palestinians killed, it is a population on the run, an unfolding genocide. And we now know that the unprecedented killing of Gazans is being powered, at least in part, by AI, an Israeli artificial intelligence system that generates new targets at a rate we have never seen before. We have three AI systems which operate in concert.
Starting point is 01:57:37 We have the alchemist system, which collects information. We have the second layer of this AI system, which is called the fire factory, which analyzes the data, and the gospel system, which produces possible military targets. Thanks, bro. The killing AI is called the gospel. It must be stressed that every military target
Starting point is 01:58:00 which is attacked from the air by the IDF goes through an analysis of both intelligence officers and legal advisors. So while AI systems produce potential targets, at the end of the day, these are human beings which are authorizing them. The Gaza Strip and the occupied Palestinian territories have become a testing laboratory in every sense of the word. There is just simply no limitations to the extent that Israel can test these technologies against Palestinians. I think the objective is clear, and that is the annihilation of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and making Gaza uninhabitable. These technologies that are used now in Gaza, we should probably upgrade the term from automated apartheid to automated genocide. There you go. Automated genocide. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:58:59 Now, screw you guys calling it the gospel. Bring out the book. Stop nonsense nonsense um the eu however has completely i think i'm thank you for the laugh the a well it is funny if you think about it of course it is it's it's so because it's gospel yeah okay say it go ahead say it well it basically in infers christian christians yes and so you have the it like a christian you know behind the killing done by the jews against the palestinians it's just the the layers of irony and and screwiness is just way over the top so the eu completed as the first ever in the world oh they're so good there the eu's they can they've just got their ai regulation done now this is only the political part because the actual technical part will need to come later but listen to this now the european
Starting point is 01:59:59 union has agreed on legislation to govern the use of artificial intelligence. The deal includes limits on facial recognition technology and restrictions on using AI to manipulate human behavior. The EU says the future legal framework for AI will include tough penalties for companies breaking the rules, but will not stifle development of the industry in Europe. It follows years of discussions among members, states, and lawmakers in the European Parliament. We had one objective, to deliver a legislation that would ensure that the ecosystem of AI in Europe would develop with a human-centric approach
Starting point is 02:00:38 respecting fundamental rights and the European values. This is really something that is much more, I believe, that a whole book. It's a launchpad for the European values. This is really something that is much more I believe that a whole book. It's a launchpad for the European startups and also researchers to lead the global race for what our fellow citizens want. The trustworthy AI.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Alright, so blah blah blah. We did it. Great job everybody. Let's get to the details with our Deutsche Welle Techno Douche. You will divide AI applications into four risk classes. Some of them will be completely forbidden, like facial recognition on a mass scale. There are some exemptions for military and law enforcement. Oh, don't worry, everybody.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Facial recognition not going to happen with a couple of exemptions for police. The police need to do it. And also the behavioral control and the control of your thoughts that will be also banned. Yeah, except when we need to control your thoughts. There's a few
Starting point is 02:01:40 exemptions in the controlling your thoughts area. But high risk applications, for example in self-driving cars will be allowed in the eu but they have to be certified the technique has to be open so that everybody can see how that works and normally i would call it like chet gbt on a medium risk level that can be in the eu without any restrictions, but it has to be documented how this thing works and everybody has to know
Starting point is 02:02:09 that he is dealing with AI, that he's not talking to a human. Wait, wait, wait, there's a fourth category. This is one of the essential measures in the whole legislation. You as a consumer should always decide, do I want to talk to a machine?
Starting point is 02:02:27 I have to know that it's not human. This is the basic principle. But there are also some AI applications that will be not regulated. For example, audio and video altering programs that make these well-known deepfakes. These are not regulated. They don't pose a high risk in the view of the EU. I love it. So we could do any kind of deepfakes we want on audio and video, no problem. And by the way, I love the name that he came up with, Chet GPT.
Starting point is 02:02:58 I think we should have a chatbot called Chet. Chet, good old Chet. Chet is a great name for a chat bot. By the way, in that conversation, he discussed the openness necessary for the self-driving cars, which is the last thing I want. world going through the code of a self-driving car and looking for ways to defeat the mechanism and or fool it or have it drive into over the cliff or across the you know across the bridge and then over the bridge into the drink i mean you don't want that no well um the eu uh the uk is lucky because um you know they're no longer a part of EU regulation. And that's great because Brits may now be forced to take a selfie
Starting point is 02:03:51 before they can watch porn, because the AI will make sure you're old enough. That's how they're going to check that. I have one more clip here before we finish. Wow, that's a good one. It's a great idea. Don't worry. It's just making sure's a great idea. Don't worry. It's just making sure you're old enough.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Don't worry about the selfie you're taking. Don't worry about the fact that we're going to post these selfies of the people watching porn. The funniest news this week was that that fabulous demo of Google's Gemini that everybody was drooling over, turns out was completely phonied up gee wait a minute a silicon valley demo was phonied up what a genius idea if you saw it they had uh you know they were talking to it and it was answering and they were showing little like oh this drawing a duck oh that's a duck quack except they cut out all the response times that could have been three seconds 30 seconds who knows the voice prompts were not voiced they had pre-entered those
Starting point is 02:04:53 with text the whole thing was phony phony from google but that's okay because we have Al Gore to bring the humor back into AI. And he did it. He had a great interview. Half an hour at COP28. No COP is complete without Al Gore. To one based on broadcasting and then moving on to the Internet and to social media has disrupted the balances that used to exist that made representative democracy work much better. Because a free self-governing people rely on a shared base of knowledge that serves as a basis for reasoning together collectively. But if you have social media that is dominated by algorithms that pull people down these rabbit holes that
Starting point is 02:05:59 are a bit like pitcher plants, these algorithms, they are the digital equivalent of AR-15s. They ought to be banned. They really ought to be banned. It's an abuse of the public forum. But when people are pulled down these rabbit holes, you know what's at the bottom of the rabbit hole? That's where the echo chamber is. And if you spend too much time in the echo chamber what's weaponized is another form of ai not artificial intelligence artificial insanity i'm serious i'm serious i'm at the bottom al help me artificial insanity which is dumb because artificial insanity would mean that people aren't really insane. It's artificial. But that's just me.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Al Gore, man. And you know, he comes out on stage and he puts his hand together praying like, thank you, thank you. I'm so, thank you. Namaste style. Namaste style, yeah. Very good to the Buddha. You go, oh, yes. Very good. To the Buddha.
Starting point is 02:07:05 I got to reiterate right now. I see even comic strip blogger. Love the man. I've known him longer than my wife. And he posts stuff from, what is it? Barf Grok. This is Elon Musk's fantastic AI, Grok. It's word salad.
Starting point is 02:07:25 It's crap. None of this is good. It's entirely recognizable immediately. They got to fix that. They can't because it's no good. These things can't even do math. They really can't. If you ask them to do some basic math, it's hard for AI.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Look, people argue with me all day long but ai is not going to kill us this is lisp all over it's going to kill us with laughter well it's lisp all over again the ai winter is coming lisp yeah that was the last used yeah yeah right the lisp guys are all over this like hey we did this with lisp we could at least create this large lisp model that's what it is it's not impressive it's going to fail and the only people winning are is nvidia because everyone wants compute cycles and i think i would say that they're they're good for a short i mean that's that's just me. I'm not a DH unplug guy. I'm just saying that this Gemini demo was the second fail for Google.
Starting point is 02:08:31 The first one was barf, and it got all the answers wrong. And then this Gemini demo was faked. And where's the business? Where's the business? Where's the business? Now you nailed it. Where's the business? Where's the business? The business is the meat compute cycles like that old commercial yeah where's the
Starting point is 02:08:50 business where's the where's the beef where's the business i mean that the way i see it i still like the the ai stuff because i love the hillary uh ai woman and i like the biden ai i've liked all the ais that are being used for great for humor by goofballs that are online creating this stuff. There's no business in that either. It's like the guys who do memes. There's no business model. You can't do memes for a living.
Starting point is 02:09:16 But that's where it's going. It's where it's headed. And some of it's getting better. That stuff is fantastic. And that's, as you saw, is the bottom of the totem pole i mean that will be used for you know it'll be used in reverse as we discussed i didn't say that said politician a that must have been uh ai that's not true but there's a product for sale i think it's actually legit it's a product that it it it's a snap on finger yes the extra
Starting point is 02:09:48 finger you put it you put this finger on it so anyone takes a picture of you and says that it's a picture of you doing something or other you point out that you have six fingers on one hand so it must be ai that's great i just thought it was a great idea. I mean, seriously, I just don't see the... You know, okay. So pretty soon, just like everybody had homogenized flower points, we'll have homogenized Word docs. It'll all be the same. It'll all be the...
Starting point is 02:10:18 In the ever-expanding world of filling your business name, that's what it does. It creates predictable crap. It's not impressive. No, I agree. I mean, it's not impressive. No, thank you. But it's funny.
Starting point is 02:10:35 Well, it'll be great for the show. But when that is great for the show, because you can belly a constantly, which you do. Yes, I do. Which is my job, but you do a better job of it. With AI. With AI. And it's material. It's dynamite material.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Now, as you mentioned, I should have clipped the Hillary thing. Yes. Where she blames everything on global warming, which is a very funny clip. It's like the Greta thing. That was great. You know, the Greta with the vegan hand grenades. I mean, it's great. It's just, it's not a business model.
Starting point is 02:11:06 Comedy is hard. It's hard to make money at comedy. Well, especially when you're just giving it away. Yes. So, no, it's, I'm sorry. And I love all the podcast companies. Oh, we've got AI for this. Yeah, we'll do your show notes, AI.
Starting point is 02:11:25 Everyone wants to make it so easy. Like, oh, you don't have you hardly have to show up and your podcast will be created. It's great. No, no, it's not. I wanted to talk about TV
Starting point is 02:11:39 and movies for a minute. We do have to take a break. So we're we got a hard out. Let's come out of the break and I want to bitch about a couple of things out there. Well, let's go into the break
Starting point is 02:11:50 with bitching. That's always fun. Come on, do it. Well, let's start with this. There's a movie that, the Hell Raising the Flower Hell or whatever it is, it's a Scorsese movie
Starting point is 02:12:01 that was produced by Apple. Oh, God. It's three and a half hours long. I have a screener. I tried to watch. It's unw Scorsese movie that was produced by Apple. Oh, God. It's three and a half hours long. I have a screener. I tried to watch. It's unwatchable. It's too long. It's about some murders that took place in the South of Indians.
Starting point is 02:12:16 And I'm going to play a clip from it. This is the whole movie, by the way. Oh. It's like bad southern accents. Killers of the Flower Moon. Yeah, Killers of the Flower Moon. Yeah. It's money.
Starting point is 02:12:31 It's obviously Scorsese got a who knows how much money to do this film. Took it to three and a half hours to make sure nobody actually wanted to see it. Because you'd be embarrassed. And the whole movie is like DiCaprio and a bunch of other guys including de niro you know the usual suspects oh this is one of those and we're all on the scorsese movie it's going to be like the godfather we're going to have nothing but fun they all have the worst southern accents of magic mine is bad no dicaprio's is worse and he's he's doing a texas accent even though he's from it's just terrible and the whole movie i have a clip from the movie and i'm telling you the whole three and a half hours is basically this john yes me i got a
Starting point is 02:13:20 message for you from king hale i want you to findC. Kirby and tell him to take care of Doom Reader. All right? It's time now, John. I can't do it right now. My wife's sick. Well, my wife's sick, too. My wife's sick, too. No, why don't you do it?
Starting point is 02:13:34 Why are you always trying to get somebody like me to do your work for you? Well, because I don't know. I don't know A.C. Kirby. I don't know what he looks like either, right? I mean, I would do it, but I can't do it because I don't know what he looks like, John. All right. I'm sorry. All right, I'll do it, but I can't do it right now.
Starting point is 02:13:50 You can't get to him right now. Just so you know, this something needs to be done straight away, not to wait on him for hell. It has to be done straight away, right now. You know, you're being mighty pushy, Ernest. Oh, I got to get back to work. Let me tell you something. You got one more chance, John. This is it.
Starting point is 02:14:04 One more chance. I'm going to talk to King Hale. I'm going to tell him you're going to do it right now. I don't want to work. Let me tell you something. You got one more chance, John. This is it. One more chance. I'm gonna talk to King Hale. I'm gonna tell him you're gonna do it right now. I don't wanna lose this job. John, you ain't got no choice. It's time. Oh, man, that's bad. I mean...
Starting point is 02:14:16 The whole movie is basically that. I live in the South. They don't... Nobody talks like that, I know. Oh, man. But it's like...'s like clip custodian says he watched it took him two days to watch it oh he couldn't watch it in one setting no i don't think anybody can but why get even why even watch it well his kid is going through chemo this was probably less fun watching this movie oh my we're talking about some of the other crap that's
Starting point is 02:14:48 on television the kelsey grammar reboot yes unwatchable anything that's not on network tv i watched something i watched something that i liked okay ready for it we watched it last night it had a very different type of plot it had good cameos I would say and not just cameos but big good actors, well known actors he kept the guy who produced it and stars in it
Starting point is 02:15:20 kept true to his legacy and it's a Christmas movie, Candy Cane Lane by Eddie Murphy. Very watchable. Very watchable, very fun. Well, Murphy's no slouch when it comes to producing a movie or being in a movie that's watchable.
Starting point is 02:15:41 Yeah. And it was a different take on a Christmas a christmas movie um it it was you know a lot of black actors but it wasn't like look we're all black actors you know it was just it was good it was a good movie well that's probably a contrast to sean hannity's produced movie oh no which is only on rumble and he's so proud of it and the title alone tells you where this movie's headed it's called jingle smells no just stop stop that's not true you think i'm kidding yes that can't be true jingle smells do you have a clip no i don't have a clip? No, I don't have a clip. I didn't think of bringing a clip of that. But Hannity is so proud of this.
Starting point is 02:16:28 It's a movie that all the family, it's a good Christian values movie. Oh, brother. And it's on Rumble. Rumble or Bitchute, one of the two. I get these mixed up, these platforms. My God. Well, there you go, everybody. That's your holiday watching tips from your no
Starting point is 02:16:45 agenda show and with that i'd like to thank you for your courage say in the morning to you the man who put the commies who hate our capitalism you put the c's in that say hello to my friend on the other end one lonely mr john c devore hey in the morning to you mr ann mccurry look in the morning to the boots on the ground feeding the air subs in the water and all the dames and knights. Hello there, trolls. The trolls are good. I'm really digging the trolls.
Starting point is 02:17:10 I, you know, I've really changed my stance a lot. I love the trolls in the troll room. I'm feeling very good. I like it when they say horrible things to me because I forgive them immediately, obviously. It's good. And it just scrolls off and then, you know, trolls do other things
Starting point is 02:17:34 and they focus their attention on someone else. We have 2,031 trolls today. That's 400 low, but seems to be our new Sunday number. it's our new low this is our new low exactly um but but it's it's you know we are the two minutes and 18 two hours and 18 minutes into the show i wanted to break earlier but we are on such a roll because this will be a very short donation segment they're getting shorter as the days get longer the donation get longer the donation segments get shorter it's amazing how that works um
Starting point is 02:18:10 now you can join those trolls in the troll room that's at trollroom.io and remember to tune in early uh at least two hours on thursdays for uh darren o'Neill's rock and roll pre-show. And on Sunday, we also have the Bluegrass show, which comes on four hours earlier, which is, I mean, it's really good. If you want to listen live. And now Fountain has upped their game. This is all the new podcast apps you want to try out, by the way. Fountain has come up with a new version, which is Banger.
Starting point is 02:18:44 They do the live stuff they give you alerts a podcast guru is upgraded there's podverse is doing fantastic curio caster um castomatic all of this this is the format of the future we've been doing it for 16 years but it's listening live you've got the troll room right there and if you're if you're one of the 4% of podcast listeners who is using Google Podcasts, I know it sounds crazy, export your subscriptions to a modern podcast app today, because that can help an independent podcast app at modernpodcastapps.com. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. And people should go to modernpodcastapps.com. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. And people should go to modern podcast, apps.com every so often. That's right.
Starting point is 02:19:27 Just check up and see what's going on. Thank you, John. And this should also go to too many eggs.com because it's a great combo. You never know. You need a big fat giant cookbook. Too many eggs.com. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:19:38 it's, these are all good tips. A little log rolling on the no agenda show. That's what you're supposed to do. If you're doing a podcast, is log roll, which Joe Rogan doesn't do. It's interesting you bring that up because these apps have a new feature, which is called the Pod Roll.
Starting point is 02:19:54 I didn't make the name up. And now, so we have in our Pod Roll for the show, which shows up in the apps, we have DH Unplugged. And I think I put Curry and the keeper in there if you have another one you want it and want in there let me know and i'll add it uh and it's exactly that same thing it's log rolling only for podcasts which is a great discovery mechanism uh you can also follow us on um uh what is that thing called? Noagendasocial.com, which I no longer post. No, it's not. It's very disappointing.
Starting point is 02:20:31 I am now doing the three meme posts every so often. Is that what you're doing? Dedicated to you. Thank you. So you just post three mean things? Is that once a day? Three memes. Oh, memes.
Starting point is 02:20:43 Oh, memes. Memes. Which to you is a mean thing, but memes. Yes, it is. Memes, yes. Yeah, I post three. Honestly, I've been looking at the no agenda telegram channels now.
Starting point is 02:20:54 I mean, that's better. To me, it's better. What happens is you... I don't even know you had a channel. Oh, well, I didn't create it. So this is all... Somebody's got to send me an invite. Oh, no, you can just join.
Starting point is 02:21:06 There must be 50 No Agenda channels and groups on Telegram. And I hate Telegram. But it's the signal to noise ratio. You're a hater. I can't post, I can't do a reply or anything. Everyone's like... It's negative. It's all negative.
Starting point is 02:21:22 No one's nice to me. And you know, if you're not nice, then I'm just not going to show up. You have to be nice to Adam. That's what my wife told me. Yeah, but they're not. And,
Starting point is 02:21:31 and you know, I get all triggered and then there's all these memes and there's a lot of, you know, polarizing things. We're the most blocked and hated group
Starting point is 02:21:40 on the Fediverse. Yeah. And it shows. Yeah, we are the blocked group. They hate, the Fediverse does not like us. The the Fediverse. Yeah. And it shows. Yeah, we are the blocked group. They hate it. The Fediverse does not like it. The whole Fediverse is a joke.
Starting point is 02:21:50 Well, there's that. But it's something about hate the game, not the players. It's something about social media that just, it's broken. It's evil. It's the devil. No, I think you're onto something. And I brought up the Marshall McLuhan concepts. social media that just it's, it's broken. It's evil. It's the devil.
Starting point is 02:22:05 I think, I think you're onto something. And I brought up the Marshall McLuhan concepts and I think you nailed it. It's the medium is the message. Yes. And I'm, I'm happy to, I mean, I love our community.
Starting point is 02:22:15 I love no agenda. In fact, we have, you know, we did this meetup, the super spreader, seething infected human resources, a meetup in Indiana, the infected Indiana meetup, the Super Spreader Seething Infected Human Resources meetup. The Indiana, Infected Indiana meetup.
Starting point is 02:22:29 Yes. And I asked, and this will be our end of show because we didn't really get any new mixes. So I asked, instead of just saying, because there's a lot of people there. And you do just the two minutes of people thanking, like, hey, hey, hey, it's me, it's me, it's me, it's me. A lot of kissing, a lot of handshaking, a lot of people there and you do just the, you know, two minutes of people. Thank you. Like, Hey, Hey, it's me.
Starting point is 02:22:46 It's me. It's me. It's me. A lot of handshaking. A lot of, well, I'm talking about, I'm talking about the,
Starting point is 02:22:51 I'm talking about the meetup report. That's what I meant. Right. So instead of that, I said, why don't you do a meter report and tell us what you're thankful for. And, and that shows the real no agenda community.
Starting point is 02:23:03 And I'm going to play that as our end of show. Oh, that's sweet. It is. I know. I knew you'd love it. It's about six minutes. It'll be right after the good news, too. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:23:13 There's so much good stuff coming. If you leave now, you are bad and stupid. But that's what I know. We'll see that you're condemning them already. No, but the trolls don't leave because the troll room is the place where you can do this stuff. I love it. Troll me all you want in the troll room. It's perfect for that. It's ephemeral. It goes away. And you can do that in a modern podcast app too. So value for value is what we've been running on. I think by now you've realized that if you got this
Starting point is 02:23:40 far and you're a first time listener, or maybe time you're like how do these guys do all this stuff without getting the platform well we don't we don't have a platform first of all um what were you gonna say uh we create our own platform that's what everyone should do it's not impossible yes and instead of relying on a third, we spend the money to create our own platform so nobody can kick us off of it because we own it. Yes, and we do this with our producers who help us in many ways. A lot of the technology stuff that has been done, we haven't done. We've never built a website for ourselves that I can remember, maybe one of the first ones. All of that has been done by producers as part of our time, talent, and treasure, and the way it works with Value for Value, which is a concept which is catching on in all kinds of areas. Music now, people are seeing it as truly the way out because Silicon Valley's model is give us all your content and we'll give you nothing.
Starting point is 02:24:44 That's their basic. That's what Spotify does. That's what they've done to musicians. That's what they do. That's what social media is. Mark Zuckerberg, like, yeah, give me all your Instagram posts. Give me your real TikTok. Give it to me.
Starting point is 02:24:55 Give it to me. Give it to me. Give it to me. And you get nothing. So you're working. You're a slave. You're working for them. So instead, we just say, hey, if you got any value out of this show,
Starting point is 02:25:09 if you learned anything, if you, if you laughed, even if you cried, if there was something you didn't know, or if you know what, even if you got mad at us, that's valuable. And eventually you'll say, I need more of that. If I can do that, you're a listener with a couple of shows. Yeah. And what I do is I force myself to listen to the pivot ads. I do that to help them. I wish I could just give them money. I'd gladly give them money with a message. I hate you. Here's 50 bucks.
Starting point is 02:25:35 I'd give them 500 from time to time if I had the money. You bet. And I hate you. Here's some value back. Now, one way, speaking of websites um let's see sir paul couture has been running for for many years i just opened it yeah is it running is it up nope um he's been running no agenda art generator.com which um has been a just a fabulous resource with almost 30,000 pieces of art since he started that. And we had something before then.
Starting point is 02:26:09 And there was some horrible incidents. He's actually changed this a couple of times. Yes. He has. He's changed infrastructure. He went to headless Drupal and then he went to just headless. Ruby on Rails. Whatever.
Starting point is 02:26:22 Drupal, and then I went to just headless. Ruby on Rails, whatever. So he is taking advantage of the explosion in the data center to bring everything back up, we hope, with a new system, which he was planning anyway. Whatever. We love you, Sir Paul Couture. If you can get it back up, you can. If not, we have a backup.
Starting point is 02:26:43 We can always import that into a new system. We'll work it out. That's part of the value for value system as well. It's like since we didn't contract someone for thousands of dollars a month. And it gives us something to complain about, but at the same time, we know he's a coder. It's content.
Starting point is 02:26:57 It's content. And that's the way it is. Yeah, it's content. It's content. But we don't have to get all mad because we're paying you for this. What are you doing? This is horrible. Your service is no good. mad because we're paying you for this. What are you doing? This is horrible.
Starting point is 02:27:05 Your service is no good. I knew we should have gone with Azure. The consultants told us AWS. No, no, there's none of that. We're just like, okay. All right, man. We know you're working on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:17 We love you. It's the way. Whatever. Hey, man. Yeah. So as a part of that come our wonderful artists. And so they've j so yeah, I said, part of that come are wonderful artists and they, and so they've Jerry rigged some system. Now,
Starting point is 02:27:29 no agenda, social.com has been very handy for this. They've been posting their artwork, their tagging, Sir Paul Couture. And so we have been able to at least get some submissions. Um, it's probably more work now than ever.
Starting point is 02:27:43 Oh, tons of work, tons of work. Tons of work. Yeah, so we, yeah. And we always select something from the offering that we have there, from the value that is returned to us by artists. And we love all the value. We can only choose one, of course.
Starting point is 02:27:58 And we will review it. We'll give you value right back, reviewing your work, if we thought it will tell you why we didn't choose it. And we want to thank darren o'neill who likes crappy music as you stand by stand by he's an old stand yeah but he nailed it he could do art every show he nailed it with the no agenda threat level indicator yeah if you haven't i mean this this was just great and the levels were low raised high trump and swift yeah for taylor swift nailed it so we're at taylor swift threat level it was great darren thank you it was just fantastic um there were a couple others that we discussed
Starting point is 02:28:40 uh there a lot of them were good dame kenny ben's uh mcpartner was i liked that piece a lot you liked the blinking lights yes i well uh they like why did elter computer yeah why didn't we choose dame kenny ben's that was the the big mac uh works with ozempic why did we not choose that just because jordan was better use it because we like darren's. Period. And I think it was because of the Swift joke. There was the... Now, Neswork spent a lot of time on the Crocs discussion,
Starting point is 02:29:12 which was interesting. Yeah. And you know why that was interesting? Let me just go back and remind everybody of where that came from. Go back to episode 1614. That's very inexpensive. and remind everybody of where that came from. Go back to episode 1614. That's very inexpensive.
Starting point is 02:29:31 I wouldn't know. You don't get, you wear Crocs. I don't wear Crocs at all things. Now you wear Speedos that look like Crocs. I don't wear Speedos. I don't even know they make shoes. What is the shoes you had that look like Crocs? So that was the conversation. And as part of that
Starting point is 02:29:47 tremendous value, one of our producers said, oh, let me take you back to episode 910. Hmm, what could be in that episode? First. Yeah, the keyboard. The keyboard's on the floor. So I had this problem
Starting point is 02:30:02 happening on the Horowitz show. What, the keyboard? You're losing the keyboard? The keyboard's on the floor. So I had this problem happening on the Horowitz show. What, the keyboard? You're losing the keyboard? The keyboard's on the floor and I kick it with my... This happened on our last show. You didn't notice. With your croc. You kick it with your croc. I don't wear crocs. I wear Speedos. Oh, oh no! Oh, what?
Starting point is 02:30:19 What happened there? Okay, there was a brand of shoes that they had at costco once that were made by speedos and they had a slight resemblance to a croc shoe now i to speedos imply other garb yeah but we we knew it was about the shoes I have put in the safe, I zipped up that information, and I am now in denial as to the fact that those were Speedo shoes that I had five years ago. The kids call this receipts. I'm really happy that the producers out there have nothing better to do than dig up slight gaps.
Starting point is 02:31:18 That's value for value right there. That's how it works. Do you get it now? Do you understand? That's value for value. Thank you to our artists for submitting your artwork. We really appreciate it, all of you. chapter images that Dreb Scott does so diligently for every single show, which he's been doing it for hundreds of shows.
Starting point is 02:31:49 And I think probably about a hundred and over a hundred shows. They were all linked to the art generator images. So those of course are temporarily down as well. So he's been working with some other systems because what he does is he take a lot, it takes a lot of this artwork that we did not choose and puts it into the chapter images for, for each individual show. Thank you for that.
Starting point is 02:32:06 Trevon. Thank you artists. We appreciate you so much. And we also want to thank, of course, the treasure, uh, deliverers of value.
Starting point is 02:32:13 And, uh, that means our executive and associate executive producers, and then a very short list, which gets us to the fifties before we get into our meetup reports. And we kick it off with Baron, not sure from monument. Colorado comes in
Starting point is 02:32:25 with a satchel of richards that is one one one one one one and it's a switcheroo hey adam and john he writes baron not sure here i would like to call out my sister mary rochelle as a douchebag but i can't let her be the last one in our family so i would also like to credit this donation to her so she can get a d douche that's a nice brother right there uh can she get an oh i didn't have this one an obama you might die i'm sorry i don't know why i missed that I'm sorry. I don't know why I missed that. How did I miss that?
Starting point is 02:33:05 You might die. Yes. What else do you want with that? Two to the head. Oh, goodness gracious. I really fell down on this one. And little girl, yay. Yeah, I'm looking for two to the head here.
Starting point is 02:33:22 Where's two to the head? I've got it. While you're doing that, I'll read the rest of the note. Thank you. A little girl, yes. Please name her Dame Marie, and she's on the list, until she finds something else more fitting. It'd be up to her. For the round table, she needs some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
Starting point is 02:33:40 That way we got one. We got a nice Chianti. Thank you guys for your courage and for everything you do. Mark Retchel. Retchel, Rachel Retchel. Yay! And your jobs karma is here as well. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Starting point is 02:33:58 Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. I'll continue with Aaron Brzezinski in etowah tennessee or etowah one of the two aaron in tennessee this donation gets me a knighthood i'd like to be known and by the way he came with 333.34 i'd like to be known as sir ahab knight of the Seven Seas and for all of your real estate needs in Hawaii, contact my old friend Cynthia Harrison at Venture Sotheby's International. That's a nice plug for your old friend Cynthia Harrison at Venture Sotheby's. We need green crackers at the table.
Starting point is 02:34:43 That's right. The old ones i left there are green now jim bobway and vicountess marianne schneeberger from uh shotzi land uh 333 33 thanks for everything you do they say tomorrow is our 10th wedding anniversary and they never had a fight so i'm wishing my wonderful wife vicountessountess Marianne Schneeberger, all my love. Love remains lit, Jim Bobway and Viscountess Marianne Schneeberger of Shotzi land. That came in
Starting point is 02:35:11 as a direct bank transfer. Oh, how does that work? Well, it's fine. A straight, swift bank transfer works fine. Oh yeah, it works, no problem. So we're not, except from Russia. I don't know about Russia.
Starting point is 02:35:28 They're not on the Swiss system. Oh, yeah, because they got to cut them out. Oh, drat. Indy No Agenda Meetup came in again with Greenwood, Indiana, with another $333.33. And this is a switcheroo from December 4th, the Indy Nogen to meet up on behalf of Please Pirate LLC and N Pain 2007. I'm not going to give out email addresses. Please Pirate LLC is the parent company for the band Dead. We are a value for value band from Cincinnati, Ohio.
Starting point is 02:35:58 The band consists of Baron Scoops and Douchebag Nate. You can find us at the www.pleasepiratemedia.com and youtube.com at pleasepirate. If you like rock music and no agenda themes, you might like us. Karma for all and a de-douching for nits. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. I met those guys. I met those guys at the meetup.
Starting point is 02:36:31 Very nice. Actually talked with them for quite a while. And they were like, hey man, we got a small box with some of our, you know, some of our merch and stuff. Can you take that with you? Yes.
Starting point is 02:36:41 Okay. We just had carry on. They come out with like, you know, this huge box. I'm like, no, you're going to have to send that to the PO box. It was a little bit too much. But this stuff is good. And I agree.
Starting point is 02:36:51 You will like them. If you like, if you like rock music and no agenda, you like those guys. $300 from Garrett Hampton, Broken Arrow, Oklahoma says, thank you for the many years of media deconstruction. Your early coverage of the Common Core Education education standards nightmare many years ago was a huge eye-opener for my wife and me and was pivotal to pivotal in our decision to homeschool our kids another human resource saved or created so many of our current cultural and political problems can be traced to the massive failure of the public education system.
Starting point is 02:37:26 Parents, Christmas break is the perfect time to bring your kids home from school for good. That's not nice. If you considered homeschooling but have no schoolhouserockedmovie.com slash ITM. Schoolhouse Rocked, that's not rock, but rockedmovie.com slash ITM. After many years of chipping away, this donation brings me to night status. I'd like to be known as Sir Thinking Dad, guardian of the Home Educators, and would love sushi and unsweet tea at the round table. No pagan karma or jingles for me, thanks. God bless. Garrett Hampton. God bless you, Garrett. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:38:17 You're going to read the next one, but first I'll read this one. Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado, and 200 bucks jobs karma she wants. And then she says, believe it or not, she says the following for a remarkable resume that gets results, go to imagemakersinc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs. And then she iterates that's imagemakersinc.com or just find Linda Lupatkin under the show's producers list jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs very nice donation here from arend krepel from amsterdam the netherlands associate executive producer with 200 he says about three years ago, my douchebag friend,
Starting point is 02:39:05 Fritz DeLonga hit me in the mouth with some stories about COVID. He also mentioned his high school friend and my idol for my teenage years, Adam Curry. That's how I found out about the no agenda show. Since then I've been hooked and a steady listener of your podcast. Creep up the great work you do. You guys do. Could you de-douche me?
Starting point is 02:39:27 You've been de-douched. And call out my douchebag friend, Fritz. Douchebag. Who I have here on board with me on my KLM 667 flight to Austin today. Adam, if you happen to have time for a cup of coffee tomorrow or Saturday, I will be honored to meet you. Met vriendelijke groet Arnold Krepel. Well, this is interesting.
Starting point is 02:39:48 Because Frits de Lange, not only, well, we didn't go to school together. He was my neighbor for many years in Nyssen de Amstel, even before I lived in Amsterdam. And he's a 747 captain, as is Arendt. And he reached out to me. He texted me, and he said, hey, I'm going to be in Austin, and you want to hook up and have some coffee? I said, well, I live in Hill Country.
Starting point is 02:40:12 Can you guys come out here? I texted him back, and he didn't text me back. So somehow we missed the communications, and I'm really sorry. Yeah, because... Well, they'll fly back out there again. There's nothing more fun than hanging out with 747 captains, because we could have learned a few things, I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:40:30 So, tailwinds, guys, thank you very much. Sorry we missed each other. And that is it for executive and associate executive producers for episode 1615. These credits are real, which means they're recognized anywhere credits are recognized at all, which of course is Hollywood. But it's very impressive on your resume. You can stick it right there in your LinkedIn profile or open up, if you don't have one already, an IMDb profile, imdb.com. Unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, if anyone questions the validity or what you did as a producer or
Starting point is 02:41:01 executive producer, we'll vouch for you. Let us know. We'll take care of you. And thank you again for supporting No Agenda Show 1615. John's going to take us through the 50s, and I'll get our meetups done. I will begin by saying the total number of donations over 50 today is 29. Yeah, it's not a lot. We have a million people who listen. We have a million, well, almost a million people who listen. 900,000. And we have 29,000 on the mailing list, which means in the mailing list alone, one out of 10,000 people contributed to the show.
Starting point is 02:41:38 Well done, everybody. Thanks for that. One out of 10,000. Well, how are you doing on that value for value? That's good. One out of 10,000 sends us something. Thanks. that. One out of 10,000. Well, how are you doing on that value for value? It's good. One out of 10,000 sends us something. Thanks. Well.
Starting point is 02:41:49 I love my job, and I love my truck. Yeah, okay. I will redo the math. It's one out of 1,000, but it's still low. Mary Rochelle in Bauxite. What a great name for a town. They must have, I'm guessing there's aluminum in Boxsite, Arizona. Arkansas.
Starting point is 02:42:08 1-21-13 and there's a birthday and there's a switcheroo birthday call for Alex Rochelle and he needs a biscuit for his birthday. Well, not just a biscuit for the birthday. Isn't there a de-douching in there as well, I thought? Is there? I think so.
Starting point is 02:42:26 You've been de-douched. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Okay. Elizabeth Gunther, probably Gunther in Texas, Round Rock, Texas, 100. Michael Butler in San Francisco. Guess who? Michael Butler. Rock and roll geek show, baby.
Starting point is 02:42:45 That's right. And he says he's no longer a douchebag. You have to de-douche him. You've been de-douched. And may I note that this January, he will be inducted into the Podcast Hall of Fame. He will? Yes.
Starting point is 02:43:01 And rightly so. He is one of the OGs way back when. He's definitely been doing it forever. Rock and Roll Geek Show, Michael Butler. Thank you very much, brother. Sir Bryce, I should go visit. I've been to his house. It's a very interesting part of town.
Starting point is 02:43:18 You used to be buds. You used to get beef together. Yeah, we used to actually. Buy a cow. Well, we also bought a pig together and i think it was a pig that did word the story he tells the story because i couldn't i was doing i think i was working on this show he went out to the to the auction uh and it was either a cow or a pig but whatever it was the the stories is he went to the auction and he bought the animal, but he was a low bid.
Starting point is 02:43:48 And not only was it a low bid, he got the thing cheap. We had it butchered. It had three legs. No, no, it was a fine animal. But the thing was that he had to mention that the little girl who sold the animal was in tears. And he kind of thought that was kind of fun. And then when did you drop him as a friend? You just said, is that when you dropped him as a friend?
Starting point is 02:44:14 You're like, I'm not calling you anymore. No, no. Somehow he got into butchering, and I haven't really talked to him since. That's right. He was doing meats for dogs. Oh yeah. And actually since we now own a kennel You should get in touch with him.
Starting point is 02:44:32 You should get in touch with him. I think Butler should provide the treats. I agree. Okay. I'll get a hold of him. So Brian Tobias in Gardner, Kansas. 8D808. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina, 8008. And he says boobs are the original stress balls. Curiously, this donation segment is so short that he's right up against it with 6006.
Starting point is 02:45:02 And he doesn't have a comment on that 6006 donation. Daniel Mudge, Fairborn, Ohio, 6006, Baron of BNA in Nashville, Tennessee, 5993, Subodh, Peth in Metairie, Louisiana, 5510. Well, there was a nice note. Let me just read this because this just shows you how this is value. And we got value back thank you i've been dealing with serious medical emergencies with my elderly parents in november 30th i was listening to the global donut episode in the hospital today and laughed for the
Starting point is 02:45:35 first time all month listening to you and adam breakdown npr thank you And thank you. The global donut. Paul Vregg... Paul Vreggdenil. Vreggdenhil. Vreggdenhil. Yeah, I'm sure he doesn't pronounce it that way in Madison, Wisconsin. But he did contribute 55. Garris or Jarris Corporation.
Starting point is 02:46:04 I think it's Garris. I don't know arlington virginia 53 he's a job karma for the sir chris of the pike and we'll put that at the end cameron cameron ling in north branch minnesota nuts 5161 bad idea. And for some reason, we don't know where they are anymore. $50.50. And now we have, I love the idea, by the way, a Bad Idea Supply. William Kidwell in Dover, Delaware. 50. These are all 50s, just the name and location.
Starting point is 02:46:40 We're going to wrap this up quickly. George Wuchet in Lavernia, Texas. Capac Chiropractic, PLLC in Capek, Michigan. Check them out if your back's out. Paul Dubois in Curhunksen, New York. William Spain in Springdale, Arkansas. Nadia Borg in San Marcos, California. Stephen Shoemake in Xenia, Ohio, Michelle Petty in Grand Forks, North Dakota,
Starting point is 02:47:12 and Margarita Andenhood in Orangevale, California. And that wraps our donation segment up for show 1615. Next show is 1616. That should give you some ideas. Yeah? Will it give us some ideas? I can't think of any. Now, I have a, this is a second winner of the IndyNA meetup email. I'm just going to read this because I'm not sure what the back office wants me to do,
Starting point is 02:47:38 but there's a whole bunch of raffle winners and their donations are coming. So, this is from John Jones. I'll read it. Oh, hey, Adam and John. Just want to thank Adam and the Keeper for coming to the Indianapolis meetup. winners and their donations are coming so this is from john jones i'll read it oh hey adam and john just want to thank adam and the keeper for coming to the indianapolis meetup i was one of the lucky winners of the raffle for an executive producer level donation so he wasn't on the list today was he uh well there was somebody on the list from there we have to make these uh this has to be consolidated we can't stretch out one meetup over 10 shows. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:07 Well, especially cause I don't see it here. So it'll be in for Thursday. So John, it'll be in for Thursday, I guess. Yeah. Cause all of those are executive or associate executive producer levels.
Starting point is 02:48:21 So that we'll work that out. John Jones will work it out. Don't don't worry about it um thank you very much to our execs our associate executive producers and of course everybody who came in under 50 dollars for reasons of anonymity or perhaps you're on one of the sustaining donations they really help during donation days like this when it's uh you know the total is 29 above 50 um you can do any type of number you want you can do um you know something periodic once every week once every show day um just make it something recurring we're very appreciative you can find out more about that at noagendadonations.com or
Starting point is 02:48:58 devorec.org slash n a as requested, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. And thank you again for everybody who supported us here for the No Agenda Show, episode 1615. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Order. Order.
Starting point is 02:49:29 Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave. It's your birthday, birthday. On no other chapter. And now I understand why that was on the list, why that John Jones donation was there. Because he has a birthday, and he wishes his human resource Desmond a happy birthday. Desmond turned one year old on December 6th.
Starting point is 02:49:53 Baron of BNA wishes his smoking hot wife Jessica a good one. And that good one took place, or takes place tomorrow on the 11th. And Marie Rochelle wishes her brother Alex Rochelle a happy birthday. We say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe. We have one dame and we have two knights.
Starting point is 02:50:14 So that'll be a nice blade here for them. Here you go. Oh, ow. Careful. Oh, there we go. Marie Rochelle, Aaron Brzezinski, and Garrett Hampton are all up on the podium. All three of you are about to become Dame and Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable. Thank you so much for your contribution. And I'm very proud to pronounce the KD as Dame Marie
Starting point is 02:50:36 for now, Sir Ahab, Knight of the Seven Seas, and Sir Thinking Dad, Guardian of the Home Educators. For you, we have Hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, along with that, fava beans and a nice Chianti, green crackers, sushi and unsweet tea. Also, we have gates and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, gin, drail and gerbils, breast milk and pablum. And of course, we have the mutton and mead.
Starting point is 02:51:04 Ooh, head on over to noagendarings.com that's where you can look at your handsome rings and beautiful dame rings for knights and dames uh you can size your finger and there's a guide on how to do that and you can send that off to us we need all the information please and of course that comes with wax to seal your important correspondence with seeing as they are signet rings and a certificate of authenticity. And thank you for becoming the most recent knights and dame of the No Agenda Show. No Agenda Meetups. And we have a couple of meetup reports.
Starting point is 02:51:39 The first one is this is the second annual holiday meetup, Gourmelts. Hi. Hi. This is Tom and Alex. Hi. Spotty holiday meetup. Macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together at Gourmelts. Hi.
Starting point is 02:51:53 This is Marshall coming to you 60 miles south of Spook Central. We thank you for your courage. In the morning, this is Dame Trail Chicken. Look, here's the deal. I'm on the offensive. Life is a scam. In the morning, this is Rob from Richmond. This is Sarah from Richmond. I've got ants. In the morning, it's Rob from Richmond. This is Sarah from Richmond.
Starting point is 02:52:05 I've got ants. In the morning, another Chris from King George. This is Roger Roundy. Stop the hammering. And then Roundy. This is Tom Starkweather. Happy to be here. Connection is protection.
Starting point is 02:52:16 We're protectionists. Yay! Yes, Tom Starkweather and his much better half, Alex, and the whole crew there in Spook Central. Thank you all very much. Here's the Five Fork First Thursday meetup report. All right, this is Sir Matt with the Five Fork's First Thursday No Agenda meetup. In the morning to you.
Starting point is 02:52:33 Hey, this is Gary. My wife didn't want to come, but she's curious what this is about. So when I get home, I'm going to give her the whole load. In the morning, and thank you for your courage, and we are not drinking seltzer. Hey, this is Joe. I'm just trying not to get rousted. Hey, this is Drew. It's my first meetup, and everybody has a tiny amygdala, and I love it. Don't eat me, Joe Biden. You're scary. So scary.
Starting point is 02:53:01 And of course, we'll have that six-minute What You're Thankful For meetup report from Indianapolis. Of course, besides that we got the COOF, RSV or Zika or Ebola, whatever it is, pick your choice. We had a great time and we really love all you guys out there. It was a lot of fun. We have one meetup happening today. No, on Thursday, nothing today. On the 14th, the Mile High Meetup, 6.30 Mountain Time, Lincoln's Roadhouse in Denver colorado and uh up until christmas let's see gloucester virginia epping new hampshire fort worth texas cincinnati lansdale pennsylvania los angeles columbus longview texas alfreda georgia uh north carolina sophia sophia bulgaria hello sophia i do want a report from you after christmas uh indonesia lombok which is next to bali on the 28th hayward wisconsin uh the virgin islands tortola tortola virgin islands i'll be on january tortola
Starting point is 02:53:53 tortola on on the firsts nice uh denver colorado fort wayne indiana indianapolis indiana oh two on the spread it out by a week luckily and albany, California, that's the Get John Out of the House meetup, and Anna, Texas on the 8th, which will be for the big solar eclipse. Those are just the meetups that I have listed. There's many more at noagendameetups.com. One of those great noagendaproducer, actually, Knight Daniel, managed and set up that whole website, which is much better than meetups.com, which we were using back in the day. So it's no agenda
Starting point is 02:54:30 meetups.com. Uh, wait until you hear the wonderful human resources are end of show mix and what they were thankful for. I think that when you hear that, you will say, yes, this is a group so diverse. If every meetup is like that, I need to be at one. And you know what you do? It's the perfect companion to your no agenda podcast. Go to no agenda meetups.com. If you can't find a meetup near you, start one yourself. It's easy and always a party. You wanna be where you want me Drink it all, hell's a lame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party I love my drug and I love what I do
Starting point is 02:55:15 Yeah, that's the one. That's the one. I only have one, Iso. Oh, goodness. Okay. I only have one ISO oh goodness okay oh
Starting point is 02:55:29 shall I play it now? yeah I might as well what the hell is that? nice fry what the hell is that? that's pretty good let me see what I have that's a wow and uh
Starting point is 02:55:43 if you love America you throw money in its hole. Throw money what? In its hole. That's disgusting. It is. I don't wear Crocs. I wear Speedos. That's an ISO. That's an ISO if I ever heard one. I would say, well,
Starting point is 02:56:01 I think there's a toss up there. We have Vocal Fry. We have vocal fry. Yes. Hold on. Vocal fry. What the hell is that? Yeah. And then.
Starting point is 02:56:10 That's a wow. I think the wow is better. Really? I was going to say the vocal fry, actually. Well, use the vocal fry. I think that's a little bit better. Let me just listen to it again. What the hell is that?
Starting point is 02:56:23 It's a good fry. It's a decent fry. It's a decent fry. It's a good fry. Let me see. What time is it? It's almost that time. I would say it is that time. It's time. What time is it? You know it's the time. It's the thing, man.
Starting point is 02:56:39 It's the time. What time is it, everyone's saying? Well, it's the time. And now it's time for Google U JCD. Good News with JCD. This is how we end every single show these days, to get you in a good mood and feeling great for the few days in between shows because we know the world can be tough
Starting point is 02:56:58 if you don't have your media deconstructors right next to you all the time to hold your hand. So Good News will put you in the right mood what do you have for good news john uh one of the another animal story uh oh this good news uh here we go our feel good friday starts with a heartwarming story out of octobaha county a courageous cat is reunited with his family after he was missing for two years. Two years? Fish sticks. The Octava-Hawk County Humane Society shared how this incredible feline found his way home. It's all thanks to a microchip.
Starting point is 02:57:34 This is a small device implanted under a pet's skin, carrying vital information like contact details. It became Fish Stick's ticket back to his family after a long separation. The animal shelter says this story highlights the importance of microchipping your fur babies. A simple act can make miracles like this one happen. A good news story from JCD. Happy vibes for you and me. And we all feel better now he's done his bit. So back to reality. That's turning to shit. Beautiful. Beautiful, John. That was beautiful, man. I really loved it.
Starting point is 02:58:15 Nothing like a cat story. A fur baby story. A cat will disappear for two years and it's like how great these chips are. Why didn't they get the cat back home like, you know, within a month? Cat didn't want to go home. Cat's like, no!
Starting point is 02:58:30 You name me Fish Dicks. Yeah, Fish Dicks. That's the problem. Don't name your cat, don't name your animals like that. Yeah, give your animal a good name, people. Don't do anything like that. Alright, time for me to hit the Advil.
Starting point is 02:58:48 But here's your real good news. We'll be back on Thursday with another jam-packed episode full of media deconstruction to help you get a better view of your world, which is distorted by those douchebags in mainstream media and many alternative media turns out these days. Can't trust the podcast anymore. It's getting crazy. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
Starting point is 02:59:11 here in FEMA Region No. 6 in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. Coming up next on noagendastream.com, trollroom.io and on the modern podcast apps, our buddy Nick the Rat with episode 415 from the sewer. And remember, we got our indie thank yous coming up right now. Until next time, remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. In the morning, everybody, a hooey hooey and adios, mofos. Hello, this is Dame Maria. And this is Sir Mark at a super
Starting point is 02:59:46 amazing meetup. We are so thankful for the wonderful tribe we have here and especially from Adam and Tina joining us today. Merry Christmas, everyone. Gary from Greenwood. I'm thankful for, obviously, my health, my family, my friends and No Agenda podcast and friends.
Starting point is 03:00:02 Shannon, visiting from Fort Wayne. Is that climate change in your pocket? Are you happy to see us? We are thankful for TooManyEggs.com. This, visiting from Fort Wayne, is that climate change in your pocket? Are you happy to see us? We are thankful for TooManyEggs.com. This is Mike from Fort Wayne. I'm thankful for Tito and Adam and doing the No Agenda podcast and all the producers that make it happen. May very well be the secret to saving this nation.
Starting point is 03:00:18 This is Dayma Maysball from Indianapolis and I'm thankful for Amazeballs. This is Mike the Polymath from Westfield, Indiana and I'm grateful for podcasts. Check. This is Mike the Polymath from Westfield, Indiana, and I'm grateful for podcasts. Check mine out, Easy Peasy Podcast. Hi, this is Sir Robert, and I'm so grateful for the Podcasting 2.0 project. Thank you, Adam.
Starting point is 03:00:34 It's Sir PBR Street Gang. Thank you. In the morning, John and Adam, and I'm most thankful for the Advent season. In the morning, Dame Trinity having a great time. So thankful for all the people that showed up and for Sir PBR Street Gang for 36 years. Hey, this is Guzman of the Midwest from Brownsburg, Indiana. I'm most thankful for NOAA Gender Nation.
Starting point is 03:00:54 Dame Cindy of the Tito's from Carmel, Indiana. Thank you for your courage. Hi, Tim, John, and Adam. Nader from Indianapolis. And I am thankful for my mother. Hi, I'm Sir Rip of the Maple. That's Sir Rip of the Maple with a K and I'm thankful for, um, uh, in the morning.
Starting point is 03:01:10 Sir Ted from Indianapolis and I am forever grateful for my partner of 40 years, my wife Dame Doreen Adele of the Snickerdoodles who wishes she could be here rather than being at home or recovering from knee replacement surgery. I love you, Dodie B. Ryan Diasio from Fishers, Indiana. I am most thankful for my laughing wife and two human resources.
Starting point is 03:01:29 Sir Leary here from Columbus, Ohio, and I am thankful for Central Ohio meetups going on a year and a half. Michelle from Broad Ripple, thankful for my family. We are five generations strong. This is Sir Scoops coming up from Cincinnati on Mount Dead. I'm most thankful for the banter between two dudes keeping us sane for 16 years. Please pirate. This is Douchebag Nate from Cincinnati, Ohio on the top of Mount Dead. I'm most grateful for my partner in crime,
Starting point is 03:01:56 Baron Scoops, and our construction of the Deadverse. April Kyle, Carmel, Indiana, and I am thankful that we are not locked down and we are here gathered together. In the morning, this is Dave, the broke air traffic controller. I'm most thankful for my job that I can not only drink, party, and smoke on the weekends, but also while on duty. In the morning, this is the anonymous controller from Franklin, Indiana, and I am also thankful for my job as an air traffic controller. Now let's get these drinks going. I've got to be at work by 10. This is John Jones from Accordsville, Indiana, and I am thankful for my human resource Desmond, who's turning one year old in two days.
Starting point is 03:02:28 This is Jed from Greenwood, and this Wednesday I have dinner with the Foam Finger Executive. This is Sir Brian with an I from Austin, Texas, and I am thankful for my AI-generated girlfriend. Hi, I'm Dame Karen. And I'm Sir Bradley. From LaGrange, Kentucky. We're thankful for each other and for the best podcast in the universe. This is Raymond H. from Holt, Michigan. Glad to be down here in Indy. I am thankful that I have not had to eat the
Starting point is 03:02:52 bugs yet. John from Vincennes, Indiana. And I'm grateful for no agenda. Hello, I'm Joshua Cromm from Carmel, Indiana. And I'm most thankful for my sobriety. Anarko Daniel from Indianapolis, Indiana. I'm most grateful for my smoking hot wife. Riley Daniel from Indianapolis, Indiana. I'm most grateful for my smoking hot wife. Riley Stone, Indianapolis, Indiana, and I'm most grateful for my parents. I'm Reagan. I'm from
Starting point is 03:03:10 Indianapolis, and I'm most grateful for my siblings and my parents. My name is Keaton Stone from Indianapolis, and I am thankful for my family. My name is Macy. I'm from Indianapolis, and I'm thankful for Christmas school. Kurt Butler, our single scholar from South Bend, Indiana. I'm grateful my parents are still alive. Hi, I'm Chris Keller. I'm from Streamwood, Illinois. And I'm most grateful for my health, my family, and having the opportunity to be retired and enjoy it. In the morning, my name's Leisha. I'm from Carmel, Indiana. And I am most thankful for my job, my boyfriend, and just being in a good place in life.
Starting point is 03:03:44 Sir Ohio Blug from Nye, Ohio. And I'm thankful for Adam job, my boyfriend, and just being a good place in life. Sir Ohio Blug from Nye, Ohio, and I'm thankful for Adam and Tina. And I'm the Blug's Sheila, Rebecca Mansell-Platel from Nye, Ohio also, and I'm thankful for my faith and my family. Hello, this is Sir Mikey Boss, the Irish Catholic sinner in town from Evansville. I am most grateful for my reversion to the faith in 2017 and for being here among the no agenda tribe i'm sean i'm carrie we're from avon indiana and we're thankful for being here hi i'm karen and i'm from the region aka saint john indiana and i'm thankful for the hubby the family and the smarts to know when to resist sir jake madison indiana most thankful for speck hook sir trent from
Starting point is 03:04:22 zinesville indiana and i'm most thankful for Six-Fingered AI Women. John from Bloomington, thankful that Bitcoin isn't quite to 200,000 because Adam is still podcasting. Paul O'Connor from Bloomington, Indiana, thankful to have all you guys with me. Hey, this is Kristen from Bloomington, and I am thankful for Carbon Credits, my family, and the best podcast in the universe.
Starting point is 03:04:44 This is Joe, driver's ed student of the quarter from Zionsville, and I'm thankful for my smoking hot wife, Nicole. Brittany Shaver from Zionsville, Indiana. I am also thankful for Joe's smoking hot wife, Nicole. Hey, this is Connor slash Niaruko from Arcadia, Indiana. I'd say what I'm most grateful for would be my family,
Starting point is 03:05:00 both the natural and the no agenda family. This is Kyle from Zionsville, Indiana. I'm grateful for my amazing parents who follow me and my wife all the way from Zionsville, Indiana. I'm grateful for my amazing parents who follow me and my wife all the way to Zionsville from Florida. I'm Steve Shaver. I'm from Zionsville, Indiana, and I'm thankful for two friends
Starting point is 03:05:13 that have opened up an independent health surgery center that are breaking the mold. I'm Nicole Molinaro from Zionsville, Indiana, and I'm thankful for God and critical thinkers. In the morning, I'm Sam from Paris, France, and I'm most grateful for all my friends here in Indianapolis. This is Sir Becoming Heroic from Cherville, Indiana, and I'm thankful that I never had to partake in the jab. Hi, I'm Brooke from Carmel, and I'm most thankful for my relationship with Jesus Christ. This is Sir
Starting point is 03:05:40 Spooky from Chicago, Illinois. I am most thankful for all of the caretakers out there. My name is Rory from Detroit, and this Christmas season, I'm most thankful for long-lived family members and long friendships. Andrea D'Azio from Fishers, Indiana, here with my smoking hot husband, and I am thankful for him and my two human resources. This is Anthony Seven, Viscount of Hamilton from Westfield, Indiana, and I am most grateful for our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Sir Craig of the Dark Moon from Westfield, Indiana, I am most thankful for my smoking hot wife.
Starting point is 03:06:12 Hi, this is Dame Amy of the Shining Sun from Westfield, Indiana, and I'm most grateful for my smoking hot husband. Hello, this is Voldemir Zielinski, and this year I'm thankful for the birth of my lord and savior, Victoria Newland. In the morning! The best podcast in the universe! Mopo. Dvorak.org slash NA. What the hell is that?

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