No Agenda - 1637 - "LIE-DAR"

Episode Date: February 25, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, February 25th, 2024. This is your award-winning Kim on Asian Media assassination episode 1637. This is no agenda. We've got Israeli boom bases and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country
Starting point is 00:00:18 here in FEMA region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we all say happy chinese new year i'm john c devorek it's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning yeah isn't this when they start spreading uh some disease yeah exactly yeah yeah it was uh yeah it was around this time was it three three years ago? Four years ago? I can't remember now. That's, you know, time flies.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I think it was almost four years ago. Can you believe how long we've been dealing with that bull crap? Yeah, well, you know, that's what you do. It had to be almost four years ago because it was right when Trump was leaving office. Yes, and I went to... Actually, it was before that. It was before. During Trump's administration,
Starting point is 00:01:07 he had to deal with nine months of it. That's right. That's right. He was blocking... So it was four years ago. He was racist. He was blocking flights from China. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Remember, he was racist. Racist. Racist. Xenophobe. And so here we are, four years later, and the... Did you get your booster?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Still got to get more boosters. I need to schedule. It works great. Terrific. I need to schedule. I'm lagging. And the UK Office for National Statistics, they find these excess deaths very annoying.
Starting point is 00:01:43 So what do we do just like we do in the financial market? When we don't like the numbers, what do we do? We just change. Why? No, we just change the way we count. During and since the coronavirus pandemic, we've generally seen more people die than we'd expect. We call these deaths, above average, excess deaths.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Different organizations have used different ways to calculate this, each with merit and particular uses, for example, for planning health interventions and identifying emerging threats. In the spirit of continuous improvement, we've been working with independent experts and those across government and the devolved nations to develop a common UK-wide approach. Using our new approach, today's release estimates 11,000 excess deaths in 2023. While this is lower than our previous estimate, our new method accounts for the growth and ageing of the population. These are key factors in understanding how many deaths we'd expect to see and whether the number of deaths is below or above this estimate.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And here we go. Looking more closely at the last months of 2023, there were actually negative excess deaths, meaning fewer deaths than average being registered. Further back across the pandemic, the trends and peaks in excess deaths are the same using the new method as they were under the old. New method.
Starting point is 00:03:04 It's important to note that our estimates of excess deaths are just same using the new method as they were under the old new method it's important to note that our estimates of excess deaths are just that estimates they can't be counted individually unlike death registrations which haven't changed i mean could it get first of all nice music bed office for national statistics i mean that they just didn't like it oh it was 11 000 so we just changed it and now it's negative so shut up conspiracy theorists and by the way these are estimates we can't really even know huh the insurance the insurance companies seem to know they seem to oh yeah they're not gonna go along no no they know they know the numbers it's it's i mean i'm just i'm flabbergasted i mean i'm not really surprised but still i mean kind of
Starting point is 00:03:52 flabbergasted you know it's crazy uh not quite as crazy as the latest uh breaking news breaking news breaking news they're at it again oh my, we've got to deploy fighter jets. Tonight in the skies above the western United States, NORAD sending up fighter jets to track a high altitude balloon flying at 43,000 to 45,000 feet. An official tells us the balloon is some 50 feet tall with a two foot payload. Its contents unknown, and they do not believe the balloon is being steered remotely. The military first spotting it over Utah. It is now drifting east. No word on who sent the balloon, where it's going, or what its mission might be. The Biden administration keenly aware it comes just a year after a Chinese spy balloon was
Starting point is 00:04:41 spotted flying clear across the country. President Biden ordering it shot down off the coast of South Carolina. That balloon was much larger than the balloon currently drifting across the country. Its payload alone was the size of three buses. Tonight, the origin of this new balloon unclear, but officials telling us it does not pose a threat to national security. Still a lot of questions over this. Let's get right to Mary Bruce live at the White House tonight. And Mary, another balloon of course spotted over the U.S. Very exciting.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Scrambling, scrambling. What are you saying? Whoa, what are we saying? Well, David, for now, they are continuing to closely track and monitor this. They've determined that as of now, this does not pose a risk to flight safety. And we're told NORAD and the FAA are closely coordinating to make sure it stays that way. You remember that guy who... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:05:30 What does she mean by make sure it stays that way? Is the thing going to morph into a flying saucer or something? Is it going to change? It's a transformer, exactly. This is just, I guess this is China fear, you know. Hey, we got to scramble some jets. We need more money. Can you imagine how much money it costs to scramble a bunch of jets?
Starting point is 00:05:50 I'm sure one of our producers could actually give us the figure. I'm sure they actually know. It's not like we could get it from a Pentagon audit, but yeah, I'm sure so. Where, by the way. Yes. Yes. Do tell. Where? By the way. Yes. Yes. Do tell. Where is that Pentagon audit?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Did you see that the Marine Corps passed a full financial audit? No. Yeah. Semper Fi. Yeah. Well, I mean, somebody can do the job.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Let me see what it says here. Turn over the Pentagon to the Marines. Oh, they, they, that should get us some donations. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Full financial audit for the first time with the service announcing Friday. It's fiscal 2023. Financial audit received an unmodified audit opinion. This is interesting. After a rigorous two-year review. How do you get a two-year
Starting point is 00:06:44 review for 2023 audit it's only 2024 well they must they they're obviously referring to a combination of 2022 and 2023 i guess i guess it's a milestone or they do time travel maybe that's it it's a it's a milestone it's a beautiful thing do Do you remember the guy? Actually, I met the guy who wrote the book about it, who had a lawn chair and he tied weather balloons to it. And he wound up flying up to 50,000 feet. And planes were spotting him.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And he had a BB gun to shoot the balloons to go back down again. Remember that guy? I remember something about it. Yeah. Is that like the one that had the kid in it? There was nothing in it? No, no, no. That was, oh man, that was the best hoax. Balloon Boy.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Balloon Boy, yeah. No, this is not Balloon Boy. No, the guy, it was in the late 90s, I think. Yeah, he had a whole bunch of balloons tied to his lawn chair. And he floated up. We should try that. I don't know. Somebody should try that again.
Starting point is 00:07:55 You'll scramble some fighters. If you're a good balloonist, you could pull that off. It would be funny if the fighter jets were scrambled. He knew what he was doing. If the fighter jets were scrambled, and then they're flying by, and there's a dude in a lawn chair. Yeah, what if one of them thought it was funny to be strafing him? Come on. Where's your American humor?
Starting point is 00:08:14 We're fun at this. That would be humorous. Just wave to the jets. This thing was only 40,000 feet. You know, you can get up there for a little bit with some oxygen. Not too long, but it might be chilly. It's been done before. Before we get to the good stuff,
Starting point is 00:08:30 I think we should at least do a little review of what happened. There was an election that Trump won. Yes. And Nikki Haley staying in the race, even though she had her ass kicked in her own state. Yes. But she's staying in because the Democrats are keeping her going.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I have a clip of Nikki if you want to hear a clip. I love it. Yeah. Today in South Carolina, we're getting around 40% of the vote. That's one way of looking at it. By the way, the 40% of vote is only 19,000 people. It's not like this was some big thing. That's about what we got in New Hampshire, too.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I'm going to count it. I know 40% is not 50%. Duh. But I also know 40% is not some tiny group. It's 19,000 people. Big deal. Was it 19? I think it was more. No, no.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I looked at the numbers. It was 19,000 people. And Trump had, you know, 22 or something. Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick. Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick. I'm surprised they didn't break out in a little bit of rap there, you know, 22 or something. Nikki! I'm surprised they didn't break out in a little bit of rap there, you know. There's lots of noise in politics.
Starting point is 00:09:53 People hit and eat other with great big sticks. But Nikki Haley stands above the rest. She's been fully, fully put to the test. With Trump the bully, who's a great debate. I can't get enough of Tim Draper. He's financing the whole thing. Of course he's financing it. That's why she should have played his song. I mean, it's rude.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Here we go. Yeah. All right. to Nikki right now to save the nation. Nikki! Nikki! Nikki! Nikki! There are huge numbers of voters in our Republican primaries who are saying they want an alternative. Yeah, I know. I said earlier this week
Starting point is 00:10:44 that no matter what happens in South Carolina, I would continue to run for president. As long as Draper finances me. Because he believes Trump's going to jail. I'm a woman of my word. Oh, yeah. There it is. There's your soundbite. There's your soundbite. Oh, yeah. There it is.
Starting point is 00:11:03 There's your soundbite. There's your soundbite. Okay. Yeah. So Nikki Haley got 298,674 votes. No, I guess I was looking at the wrong numbers then. I think so. Well, this is why there are two of us. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Trump got 451,905. Oh, wow. Oh, that's a spanking. A spanking of epic proportion. Did you see him bring up Lindy Hop Graham? Trump? They were both up there, him and the other senator. It was kind of weird because everyone was booing him.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah, they're booing him, but they keep re-electing him. So how does that make sense? You want to hear it? Sure. Another man not a lot of people know him. He doesn't do too much television. He happens to be a little bit further left than some of the people on this stage. But I always say, when I'm in trouble on the left, I call up Lindsey Graham and he straightens it out.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Nice backhanded slam. I like that. Yeah, boom. I'll tell you. No, no. No, no. He isn't. Remember. Remember what?
Starting point is 00:12:17 We remember. Remember the main. We remember my Don. Yes, we remember. Warmonger Lindsey. I love him. He's a good man. Come up here, remember. Warmonger, Lindsey. I love him. He's a good man. Come up here, Lindsey.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Come up here, Lindsey. Come here. He looks kind of inebriated. He sounded okay. You ready? I love you. He sounded okay, but he was really flush. You know, kind of like he'd been.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah, he probably, he's one of, there's a lot of, let's put it obviously, people that are in Washington, D.C. know how to drink. Yeah. And so they can drink a lot and still sound kind of sober. Yeah. And that's what he, I'm sure he was drinking heavily. He would hope, I don't know what he was hoping for, but. Oh, here he is.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Okay, are you ready? Okay! America, the nightmare you're facing is just about over. Help is on the way. This is the most qualified man to be President of the United States.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Oh, he's drunk. He's hammered. He's the most qualified man to beed. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered.
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Starting point is 00:13:27 He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's hammered. He's yeah okay so i've got some analysis from pbs oh oh well with my favorite correspondent the lopez woman oh i have her later too yes the lopez woman you know she's kind of annoying
Starting point is 00:13:55 you think she's a little bit annoying yes yeah and she's more than a little annoying. And very biased. Very biased. Oh, she's a bigoted woman, correspondent, typical PBS. I don't know. It's one of those hires. Yeah. They have very few Latinos. A DEI hire? Latinx Latinos. A DEI hire?
Starting point is 00:14:19 Is that what you're insinuating here? Yeah. Okay. I'm not saying she's incompetent. She's a good, she does. She doesn't flub. She's not a,
Starting point is 00:14:28 but she, you can just see she's so she's worse than anyone they've had before for being biased. And I want to play three clips. It's PBS. It should be representative of all of America. It's our public. Those days are died with. What am I thinking?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Gwen Eiffel. That's right. And, and how we miss good old gwen she was good she was good well she's i think the one that put the kibosh on a lot of the stuff they were trying to do so let's go with election uh analysis lopez won now for the latest laura it's fair to say president biden has an enthusiasm gap among some in his base who are the voters that he's having the most trouble with right now he's having a lot of trouble with young voters and voters of color, Amna. And I spoke to
Starting point is 00:15:09 Nancy Zedunkiewicz, who is a Democratic pollster with Z to A Research, and she recently conducted focus groups with Latino voters, black voters, and moderate Republicans. And especially among Latino voters, she said that there was a Hispanic woman in that group who questioned the president's message on the economy specifically, that they weren't happy when they heard the president compare U.S. inflation rates to other countries' inflation rates, trying to present what they thought was too rosy of a picture in terms of U.S. economy. And ultimately, Nancy Zedunkowicz said that what Democrats have is a messenger problem. This might be a sort of reverse coattails kind of election where we see that statewide Democrats and congressional Democrats are carrying the president across the line.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I can't tell you a single state right now where I've surveyed where a statewide Democrat was not more popular and exceeding the vote share of the president. Zedunkowitz warned that this is a real problem for Democrats and it's not something that they can wish away. So wait a minute. So the the wonderful analysis from PBS here is the Democrats have a messenger problem. Really? Gee, gee, gee, who would have thought? gee gee who would have thought finally yeah
Starting point is 00:16:25 they're coming around to this conclusion because their guy is an old abused dude who can't really communicate
Starting point is 00:16:34 who can't remember things if they jack him up with enough no no that's not working anymore they're letting him go
Starting point is 00:16:41 they're gonna they have here's my thesis or hypothesis. Yeah, you name it, whatever you want. They have let him slide from the uppers as long as they can so they can really pump him up for the State of the Union address in March. Because they can't keep him pumped up because he's going to blow up. No, he's going to explode.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I don't know if he's going to make it. So he's going to get to the State of the Union. They're going to give it to him. He's going to be so wired for that speech. Everyone's going to say, this guy's got lots of energy. You watch. I'm waiting for the State. That State of the Union is going to be a killer.
Starting point is 00:17:23 All right, let's go with Lopez, too. So the economy remains a challenging issue. but where is the president seeing any traction what issues and with what voters as i mentioned amna nancy zadunkowicz spoke to moderate republicans as well and so in that focus group they found that when they presented the contrast between president biden and former president donald trump that a lot of those moderate republicans started to move more towards President Biden, specifically on issues like democracy, January 6th, and on abortion. Wait, so the Republican moderates are voting because of democracy? Yes, yes. And January 6th, that's what's at the top of their mind. They're thinking, oh, my God, that January 6th bull crap that I'm thinking, oh, that's that means I better vote for Biden because I don't want that to happen again. And oh, and Trump's a threat to democracy, even though everybody left and right, including now Hawaii, is trying to take him off the ballot.
Starting point is 00:18:20 That's democratic. OK, so we'll go with that analysis you sound very um animated and somewhat upset i'm very upset i'm upset with the bullcrap i mean do you really think that any republican is voting based on january 6th uh no i don't but you know they're gonna try they're gonna try and and push that i mean that was their big tv show that was that was the big thing they had they got liz cheney they got uh they got everybody to yeah and every one of them got voted out shortly thereafter they're desperate there's obvious they're desperate this This lady, this pollster, she's a Democrat pollster. Hello? I mean, it's lies, lies, and statistics.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And clip three. That abortion, she said, is the second most important issue that they're hearing from a lot of voters across the board, not just moderate Republicans. The two fixes that Democrats could have for that, she said, is that President Biden needs to be very clear about his platform for a second term and also get more surrogates out there that could boost his message. Oh, yeah, they need surrogates. All right. Wow. Yeah, I thought you'd catch that. Well, I haven't because I've heard other analysis that says, including from Jen Psaki. Oh, goodness. Who came on one of the shows and said, oh, Biden's got to get out there more. He should be out in front.
Starting point is 00:19:50 No more surrogates. Screw that. Let's have Biden. Is she trying to sabotage him? What is she doing? I don't know what she's up to. That's crazy. You don't want to.
Starting point is 00:19:59 You're right. We got to keep him in the adrenochrome, you know, tight until the state of the state of the union. Meanwhile, Turkish radio television did an interesting report of the South Carolina primary and came up with this. But over the past two days in South Carolina, we've been hearing the same message from voter after voter. They believe only one man can defeat the president occupant of the White House. My vote is for Donald Trump. We've got to get Biden out of office. We've got to. It's a shame what is being done to him. The man is old. The South Carolina Republicans,
Starting point is 00:20:41 they even have compassion for Joe Biden. There were very few people bucking the trend. Many of the votes Haley did get were from Democrats so determined to stop Trump that they temporarily switched parties. Now listen to this lady and tell me this is not a maniacal person. I voted outside of my party because I think it's important for somebody other than President Trump to have a chance. So I voted for Nikki Haley. So you're a Democrat? I am. But you're taking part in the Republican primary?
Starting point is 00:21:14 I am. Yep. First time ever. My parents would be horrified. Tell me that person isn't deranged. No kidding. Wow. tell me that tell me that person isn't deranged no kidding wow that was rather interesting then we um them you know but so here's the unhinged part and people are coming apart at the seams and it's kind of weird bob costas i don't know much about sports ball but i remember bob costas bob costas was the the cool collected
Starting point is 00:21:45 dude who did the sports ball uh announcement yeah yeah they actually gave him a late night show for a while he took over from tom snyder right and then he could do what tom snyder's old it's called the late late show whatever it was called he couldn't probably well he actually could yeah he was actually pretty good but he was but he was not as good as Snyder. Wait, didn't he run into some controversy? Didn't he get kicked off of that? Why do I even know this? I have a feeling that he got deplatformed early on because he, didn't he have some, I'm going to say sex scandal or something like that.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Anyway, he was on smirconish. He was on smirconish. And the poor Bob Costas coming apart. You come at this from a position of not wanting to see Trump get elected. You should state that at the outset. True. Yes, absolutely. He is by far the most disgraceful figure in modern
Starting point is 00:22:47 presidential history. He's only become more disgraceful since 2016 and since 2020. He is a bubbling cauldron of loathsome traits. And it's only those who are actually suffering from Trump derangement syndrome, which is the way they and Fox News and all the rest of mega media try to brush aside all the legitimate criticisms of Trump. You have to be in the throes of some sort of toxic delusion in a toxic cult to believe that Donald Trump has ever been in any sense emotionally, psychologically, intellectually or ethically fit to be president of the United States. So you got to be in some kind of cult? Now, hold on a second. Can you play the beginning of that clip again? Just the first couple sentences. Sure. You come at this from a position of not wanting to see Trump get elected. You should state that at the outset. True? Yes, absolutely. He is by far the most disgraceful figure in modern presidential history.
Starting point is 00:23:50 He's only become more disgraceful since 2016. Yeah. OK. So what specifically is he talking about? He's because he's putting people into a cult. This is part of a narrative. I didn't want to do it this early in the show, but I might as well. There's a narrative that they've been just waiting, waiting to spring. It's the whole religious cult meme. And they've just been waiting to do this.
Starting point is 00:24:20 And they finally got an opportunity. And when I say they, that's the Democratic machine. Yeah. But I'm going to stop you before you. I want to hear this. But I'd like to know specifics here. If you're going to start making these accusations that all the Democrats do, oh, Trump, he's a criminal. Oh, Trump is this, he's that.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Give me one example. Well, why are you asking me? I'm not Bob Costas. You're the one with the presentation. Bob Costas, did he ever say what these disgraces were specifically? What are they? No, I think, hold on, again, I didn't want to do this here, but I'm going to do it now. Let me go back to this Bob Costas thing, because at the end he says... In a toxic cult.
Starting point is 00:25:10 That's what he says. This is the point. We don't have to be in the throes of some sort of toxic delusion in a toxic cult. This is what he's trying... He likes the word toxic. Yes. So we have to assume that toxic is on the list of wordage that we're going to be hearing. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:25:27 We got to roll out the... I like toxic, by the way. It's a good word. I thought we had that in toxic. What was the... What would we call it again? The Trump... What was the list?
Starting point is 00:25:40 Trump derangement syndrome. No, no. We had a list. We had a name for the list. The rotation. The Trump rotation. Yeah, the Trump rotation, which is still online. Let's review.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's only 58 seconds. Let's see from 2016. Let's see if toxic was on the list. I have my list, and you might want to see if there's anything I left out. This is the Trump rotation. There's two categories. There's the regular, and then there's the criminal. But here we go.
Starting point is 00:26:05 Ready? Here we go. Liar. Incompetent. Unhinged. Illegitimate president. White supremacist. Racist.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Bully. Immature. Russian agent. Narcissist. Mean. Long ties. Insane. Tweets too much.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Small hands. Small penis. Big red button. Criminal. Mean. Racist. Immature. Thin skin. Small hands, small penis, big red button, criminal, mean, racist, immature, thin-skinned, runs the mob, has no money, unstable, fatter than 239 pounds, bankrupt, 25th Amendment should be instituted, he hates women, misogynist, holds grudges forever, plays golf a lot, obstruction of justice, money laundering, and clown. John, no, no wonder we're making America white again. So no toxic on the list. You're right.
Starting point is 00:26:56 It's new. It's new for the list. But they're going with a different tact. It's been the white Christian nationalist for a while. And now we have to make that into a cult. It's not a religion, by the way. White nationalist, not a religion. Christian nationalist, not a religion.
Starting point is 00:27:19 No, it's a cult. And it's a political cult. And that's what Costas, I don't think Costas can bring himself to do the full thing. But it really started with a beautiful switcheroo, which included the University of Alabama, which is a major woke university. I mean, like major, major woke. So there was the... As bad as Arkansas? Maybe even worse. Maybe even worse. Maybe even worse.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Watch the documentary, what is it, Bama, with all the girls going there and social media. It's an interesting documentary. Anyway. So in Alabama, there was a court case that went up to the Alabama Supreme Court. Two couples. You're banging your mic. It was two couples. That went up to the Alabama Supreme Court. Two couples. You're banging your mic. It was two couples.
Starting point is 00:28:09 That's not banging the mic. Well, whatever it is. It's something else, and I'm trying to stop it from happening. I'm not sure what to lubricate. I do have the IVF. No, I have it all. I'm not going to lubricate everything. Do you want me to present it, or do you want to interject your clips? No, I do.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Unless you have a clip on the IVF. I have all of it. Of course I have it. Okay, okay. I just have a PBS clip. I have a million? I have all of it. Of course I have it. I have it all. I have a PBS clip. I have a million. I have too many clips.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I can't even play them all. But I want to explain because it's fun to see the switcheroo. And we don't need to have a clip necessarily about what actually happened other than two couples in Alabama. They had had children with IVF. couples in Alabama, they had had children with IVF. IVF is where you actually create the child in a Petri dish, and then you freeze it until you implant it in the womb. It stands for in vitro fertilization. Thank you. And you get twins often, by the way, which is always a fun little side effect. And so they paid a company to keep their the dead successfully
Starting point is 00:29:07 implanted and had kids both of these couples and then the company that's supposed to take care of their embryo the frozen embryos they screwed it up and they dropped them on the floor swept them up i don't know what happened something horrible went wrong and so they sued them for wrongful death, which then it had, and which who knows how much of this is all a setup, but they sued them for wrongful death. And the Supreme Court justice in Alabama came out with the opinion says, yep, they're children. So it's wrongful death. Therefore you can be penalized for that. And then the University of Alabama turns around and goes, oh, well, we can't do any IVF now because it's scary. So scary because we might get sued if we drop a child on the ground, which is the setup. And the switcheroo happens right away in the mainstream. Women relying on IVF and their advocates had feared the fall of Roe would open the door to states further restricting reproductive rights. Still, the Alabama decision sent shockwaves. This case or a case like it could go all the way up to the Supreme Court at some point.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And that's what really puts the future of fertility care at risk. Kate Weldon LeBlanc heads up Resolve New England, an infertility support group. Her own daughter Sophie was born through IVF. She calls it an intensely personal and emotional journey between an individual and her doctor, not politicians and judges. People do not understand the medicine of reproductive health care. So it's already gone away from IVF immediately. No one's talking about the actual case. Now it's Roe v. Wade. It's they hate children. They hate the Republicans.
Starting point is 00:30:49 They're crazy Christians. And they are making changes that are going to impact people that are desperately trying to welcome much wanted children into their lives. OK, so here's how it gets. Guys, wait. What? I love the use of the term it gets. Guys, wait. What? I love the use of the term much wanted. Oh, yeah. This whole thing is crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I'm going to give you a good example with The View because that's where America's women go to get their news. But you know what? Explain to Republicans want to stop rich people from having children. It doesn't make sense. On the one hand, they want you to not have an abortion. Then they also don't want you to have more children. Make up your mind. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:31:34 She's literally lying and turning everything around. Whatever that means. I actually think they do want you to have more children, and they're just not saying the quiet part out loud. Oh, no. So Sonny Hostin, what is she? She needs to bring some racism into it. Remember, it's white Christian nationalists
Starting point is 00:31:47 that we're going after. We'll get to them. Right. Right. Which is multicultural Americans are going to become the majority population by 2050.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Oh, yeah. By 2050, the Hispanic Americans are expected to have the most population growth, an increase of about 6%, while the white population is expected to decrease
Starting point is 00:32:05 by about 11 percent at this time the birth rate for white americans in this country has been falling since the great recession and it's dropped almost 23 percent between 2007 and 2022 so what the view has now done is they've taken it from rich whiteys to they you know, only the rich whiteys want to have babies. They don't want to have, oh, don't give black and brown people access to this crazy technology that is brand new, apparently. But wouldn't more white women be getting want IVF, but they can't say, yes, they're coming out sort of against it and not being able to explain why. They want to have more American white children born because the birth rate has gone down okay so that's the views take on it but what really kicked off was this woman from politico heidi prisbilla and she went on msnbc with michael steel isn't that the guy who used to be the the president of the republican party he used to be
Starting point is 00:33:20 the head of the republican national committee turned. This is the kind of guy he is. And then she just, and she did the, did exactly what her WAPO, because isn't Politico owned by WAPO? Uh, Slate is owned by WAPO. Okay. All right. Well, same overlords, as far as I'm concerned, she, she kicked it all off and got it going. And I think she I think she went a bit too far, but it was beautiful to see. Heidi, you've got the new speaker, Mike Johnson, who's not afraid to wear his Christianity on his sleeve, on his sleeve, his collar, his lapel, his head, wherever he can wear it. How do members react to that? How are they responding to this real strong infusion of christian nationalism into hold on a second this phony baloney this guy who's who's hateful uh we had it once headed the republican national committee once he was booted off he became a democrat which he always was
Starting point is 00:34:20 he was never any good at it he's this a lie. I've watched enough of Mike Johnson. He rarely talks about being religious. He doesn't wear it on his sleeve. Oh, well, no, but this is a setup. This has been planned. We've got a documentary. We've got books. I understand the thesis.
Starting point is 00:34:38 I'm just pushing back on the bull crap that you hear from these boneheads. By the way troll room absolutely spot on meanwhile white girls are are having sex with black men i mean what what are we doing we all know what's really going on that's fine this is america but no it's really about making trump and his um support it's all about trump the whole thing's about it's all about trump it's all about Trump. The whole thing is about Trump. It's all about Trump. It's all about Trump and it's a desperate, desperate attempt. Real strong infusion of Christian nationalism into
Starting point is 00:35:12 the body politic of the House. I've talked with a lot of experts on this and I've seen it myself with my reporting, Michael, which is that the base of the Republican Party has shifted, right? Remember when Trump ran in 2016? A lot of the republican party has shifted right remember when trump ran in 2016 a lot of the mainline evangelicals wanted nothing to do with the divorced uh you know real estate mogul who
Starting point is 00:35:33 cheated on his wife and with a porn star and all of that right no i don't remember that right was that was that really ever a thing did did did did mainline christians run away from trump because he because he right because he cheated on his wife with a porn star or did you make that up in your head lady that right that's what i right that's that's the part i love the most it's like that right when trump ran in 2016 a lot of the mainline evangelicals wanted nothing to do with the divorced uh you know real estate mogul who cheated on his wife and with a porn star and all of that right right so what happened is he was surrounded by this more extremist element you're gonna hear words like christian nationalism like the new apostolic reformation these now this is this is this got my interest the new apostolic reformation
Starting point is 00:36:26 this is something that started in in 1996 by a professor uh dr peter wagner and you know it's not really mainstream anymore it did start kind of the uh charismatics movement which uh you know if and this is what they're failing on they don't have any video of the charismatics in their churches because you know they're very moving around and speaking in tongues and very vocal and they're completely you know the holy spirit is working through. So this is the cult angle that she's going for. What you just pointed out is a weakness. Yes. Because I don't think they really know what they're talking about probably on any level. No.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And so if they knew what they were talking about, that's what they would go get. You're right. The B-roll of a Pentecostal Thursday night or whatever weird night they do these jumping around things and just talking in tongues and just go for it. I mean, we have one guy like that in our church and we love him. He's like he has Tourette's. Like, oh, Jesus!
Starting point is 00:37:35 And he's great. But we only have one. No, you have to imagine a church full of them. Yeah, that's what you need. Christian nationalism, like the new apostolic reformation. These are groups that you should get very, very schooled on because they have a lot of power in Trump's circle. And the one thing that unites. They have a lot of power in Trump's circle.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Because there's many different groups orbiting Trump. But the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalists is very different, is that. Huh? Okay, so Christians is very different from Christian nationalists. This is part of the meme. They're trying to not piss off Christians by saying Christian nationalists is very different. Unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalists is very different unites them as christian nationalists not christians by the way because christian nationalists is very different is that they believe that our rights as americans as all
Starting point is 00:38:30 human beings don't come from any earthly authority they don't come from congress they don't come to the supreme court they come from god okay news flash heidi um the rights that we have in the Bill of Rights, as written, are established, were not given to us by Congress or by the Constitution. The Bill of Rights is a specific denial of things for the government. And if you look at the Declaration of Independence, yes, these were our God-given rights. yes these were our god-given rights and now but this is the level of knowledge of civics amongst this reporting class that or they're specifically trying to undermine the constitution both the problem with that is that they are determining man men it is men yeah are determining what god is telling them and in the past that so-called natural law is, you know, it's a pillar of Catholicism, for instance.
Starting point is 00:39:29 It's been used. Oh, hold on a second. We talked to our lapsed Catholic. Is that a pillar of Catholicism? No, I don't know. For good, in social justice campaigns. Martin Luther King evoked it. Yes, he said all men are created equal.
Starting point is 00:39:43 That's what Martin Luther King said. And I think Martin Luther King said that came from God. But, you know, that was Martin Luther King. He was better. Talking about civil rights. But now you have an extremist element of conservative Christians. I love extremist, not extremist. She loves that word.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Extremist. And she says extremist instead of extremist, which everybody in the world says extremist. But she says extremist. Why is she doing that? What is the point? I think it's an attention getter. It's an attention getting pronunciation. Well, it works.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Extremist element of conservative Christians who say that this applies specifically to issues including abortion, gay marriage. And it's going much further than that. As you see, for instance, with the ruling in Alabama this week, that judge is connected to that dominionist faction. And talking about a lot of other issues, including surrogacy, IVF, sex education in schools. There's a lot in addition. Okay, so what she's trying to do here, and I think she overshot the mark, is she's trying to tie
Starting point is 00:40:49 dominionism and the new apostolic what is it? New apostolic is it revolution? NAR. I forgot what she said. It's not working. She can't jumble all these things together like that and hope to get any attention or get any anybody to go along with it because
Starting point is 00:41:11 she she's nuts she doesn't know what she's talking about well she tries well steel tries to bring her back on track because she needs to of course connect this to mike johnson the speaker of your house you have to understand the whole idea is to tell to tell america the people who want to run this country are crazy you know it's interesting heidi as these two men are trying to carve the gop into their image uh you've got the titular head of the party uh donald trump, who is not a paragon of Christian virtue. How do they reconcile that? What is is it just about, oh, he got us the Supreme Court?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Is it just about he advocates for the things that we advocate? It doesn't matter whether or not he himself believes them or has any type of moral connection or even a theocratic one, given what you were saying? It really depends on the individual. But let's talk, for instance, about his spiritual advisor, Paula White, who was a White House employee. She was his spiritual advisor. She is connected to this dominionist movement. And a lot of those individuals believe that Trump actually was put here by God. He even tweeted this video, you know, that God gave us Trump, that he is a serious like person who is imperfect vessel, who is nevertheless here put on earth to do God's work to put. So now she's taking that commercial
Starting point is 00:42:41 and she's tying it all in. mean i love the effort christianity back at the center of civic life and you see that manifesting um not just in the courts and we're seeing that like with the ivf ruling with the um myth of perstone ruling now that is making its way to the supreme court but with project 2025 which is an agenda that's being very detailed agenda that's going to be offered up to President Trump. Or if he wins a second term. Right. Oops. She already knows he's going to win. Oops. I mean, if he wins, I mean, if he wins. President Trump to to work through the Department of Human Health and Human Services,
Starting point is 00:43:33 To work through the Department of Health and Human Services as well as potentially the FDA that would really kind of bypass even the courts in Congress to do things like revoke authorization of the abortion pill. And then, and this is the one that doesn't get enough attention, is the influencer campaign that's taking place. Oh, wait, this is the, now we got to bring in Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA because these people are crazy. They are paying influencers right now in the GOP to convince young women to ditch hormonal birth control, that that they are they are sicker and they are more stressed out being working women and that they should embrace being healthier and more natural. And what a crazy idea. Having large families and, you know, daycare is not good for your kids either. And all of these things actually happened at a Turning Point USA conference for young women leaders. Okay, so she really overshot the mark. She went way too far.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Because she was just supposed to tee up some stuff and let all the serious media like NPR. Oh, yeah. No, NPR. Elitist Voices of America. This is NPR. Or PBS. So NPR brings on this guy, I think Matthew Taylor. He's a scholar.
Starting point is 00:44:42 He's a scholar with a book. And he's going to really explain to us what's going on with these crazy Christian nationalists, dominionists. Dominion theology, the concept was coined by a group of radical Calvinist theologians. Can you stop for a second? Yeah. Just a little backgrounder. The Dominionist slur was actually developed and maxed out during the George W. Bush administration, for anyone who wants to think about it. Oh, is that when they tried that? They tried it there?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah, this is when they first came out. And the Dominionists, that's when it really got into the forefront, and there was discussion after discussion about what the Dominionists want. They want the end of the world, and the end of the world is going to take place in Israel, even though the Syrians think it's going to take place someplace else. Everyone in the Middle East has their own little area where Armageddon is going to take place. Of course. But the Dominionists believe it's in Jerusalem or something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I may have a few details wrong, but this was going to be the end of the world. And that's what everyone was pushing for because George W. Bush and the Dominionists want to end the world as we know it. They want the whole thing to blow up. Dominion theology? Oh, sorry. That was the reason for the, so it became a big deal. And so now they're reintroducing the term and the group. And there are a lot of people that are very serious about being dominionists. I think I've heard from a couple
Starting point is 00:46:08 of them myself. But it's absolutely one of the most fringe of fringe Christian movements, very fringe. And so to bring it up as a mainstream anything is ludicrous. Dominion theology, the concept was coined by a group of radical Calvinist theologians called the Christian Reconstructionists in the 1960s and 1970s. These ideas were very influential in the rise of the religious right in the 1980s. It was this aggressive style of Christian theology that said Christians need to fulfill what they would talk about as the dominion mandate, take dominion over societies and rule in the name of Christ. The main vehicle for this idea in NAR circles is something called the seven mountain mandate that became a charismatic
Starting point is 00:46:58 rebranding of these Calvinist dominion theology ideas that Wagner and his cohort mixed together into the seven mountain mandate. And in fact, Justice Parker referred to the seven mountain mandate in an interview he did with an NAR prophet named Johnny Enloe. And it was published the same day as the court's decision that embryos count as people. I love this stretch because I thought it was going to be in the opinion. I got the PDF of the Alabama judge's opinion. I'm like, oh, there was nothing in there about that. So he did an interview with an NAR dude and it came out the same day and she doesn't cite anything, just says offhandedly oh yeah the seven mountain
Starting point is 00:47:46 mandate also something i'd never heard of before so the seven mountain mandate means that you have to go into the institutions of government and what else the seven mountains are family, religion, education, government, arts and entertainment, media, and business or commerce. Bullshit. You forgot podcasting. What's wrong with you? And so the idea is if you divide up society into these seven spheres. You can rule the world. Sometimes language you'll hear used as well.
Starting point is 00:48:23 The idea is that those mountains, those spheres of society are either ruled over by demonic forces or by the kingdom of God. Well, that's entertainment. Well, that's exactly. That's Taylor Swift. Since where do we not agree? We got to agree with that. And so the goal for Christians is to rise to the top of each of the seven mountains in every society and to displace the demonic powers through spiritual warfare. Meanwhile, the Jews are going, hey, hey, hey, media, that's our mountain.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Get off our mountain, Christian crazies. Seven mountains in every society and to displace the demonic powers through spiritual warfare, through prophecy and take over, conquer the mountains, and then let Christian influence flow down from the top. So if you think about conventional religious right mobilization, it has tended to filter or channel conservative Christian indignation into democratic means. This is a vanguard move. This is not a grassroots change society. This is take over positions of power in society and govern from the top down. Come on, don't give me that. I have a couple
Starting point is 00:49:29 more to go. I'm skipping as much as I can because I can already hear you're annoyed. Well, yeah. For one thing, I want to back up at least once in a while and say this is so fringe. It's ridiculous. And the fact that they bring it in as something that's actually happening at any level.
Starting point is 00:49:49 If you go to Seven Mountain Mandate and Wikipedia, they have this kind of a background of it. This never really became caught on until, I guess, 2013. And then it was about the Seven Mountains, not about the other stuff, the Dominionists. And then they have here prominent followers. Okay, who do we have? Mike Johnson. Yeah, exactly. Raphael Cruz, pastor and father of Senator Ted Cruz,
Starting point is 00:50:19 you know, the guy who tried to kill Kennedy. Paula White, spiritual advisor to Trump. This is, this is Lauren Boebert. Really? All right. So, but,
Starting point is 00:50:31 but now we have to take this and we've got to connect it to the, I just want to stop again. This is a, this is, this is a setup. This was, I'm going to look into the talk. This has recently been,
Starting point is 00:50:44 been added. Oh yeah. This, was, I'm going to look into the talk. This has recently been added. Oh, yeah. I totally agree. The Seven Mountain Mandate Wikipedia page has been updated recently. Look at the edits. Yeah, looking now. Okay, so then he goes into separation of church and state, which I'm going to skip that one.
Starting point is 00:51:00 But what we need to do is we need to connect these crazy people, these crazy dominionist, seven-mountain, charismatic nutjobs, also known as Christian nationalists, to January 6th. But how much of this rhetoric is metaphorical? I mean, are we talking about real demons when they talk about picking up weapons? Are they talking about real weapons? They would say it's not metaphorical. They believe the demons are real. But they would say they are only talking about spiritual warfare. Now, the challenge is if you go and listen to their rhetoric, it is incredibly violent.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And they are pointing at actual people, pointing at the Democratic Party, pointing at disloyal Republicans as they view them and saying those people are not actually responsible for their actions because they are being orchestrated by demons and we need to fight the demons. And this literal demonization of their enemies is one of the major contributing factors to the chaos on January 6th. Because they are pointing at them and saying, that building is infested with demons. We need to fight the demons. I did not hear those chants on January 6th. I'd have to seen that footage. And it's only a matter of time if you keep doing that before someone says, yeah, we need to fight against those people.
Starting point is 00:52:22 So the NAR leaders are careful. yeah, we need to fight against those people. So the NAR leaders are careful. They know where the line is between truly irresponsible speech that could get you in legal trouble. None of them have been prosecuted or even faced any legal consequences for their role in January 6th. They know that what is protected by free speech and they walk right up to that line, but they're always careful not to cross it. I'm not sure what he means with that bit at all, but his job here with his book, and there's a couple books out, is to connect the Trump backing from Christian nationalists to January 6th. And all of this is, of course, a setup to a wonderful documentary called God and Country, which is produced by none other than Rob Reiner, because he is the final hope for the Democrats,
Starting point is 00:53:10 the final hope to get rid of Trump by telling everybody the truth. We have a new project that I also want to make sure people know about, your documentary God and Country, which looks at this issue of Christian nationalism. We have a little bit of it. Let's take a look. Christian nationalism uses Christianity as a means to an end. That end being some form of authoritarianism. Being a Christian is about the values of inclusion.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Christian nationalism is certainly not based on the values of the gospel. God wants America to be saved they're told over and over and over again that you're in danger you need to fight if you don't want to lose your country we are in a civil war now what's being said here is is true absolutely christians are always talking about we don't want to lose our country and the demons and all that. But they're overlaying January 6 footage as only Rob Reiner could do. We'll show you in the documentary. And by the way, there are very conservative Christian evangelicals, pastors, very respected people in the Christian community that are frightened of this Christian nationalist movement, because it's not, they're not only frightened about it hurting democracy, but Christianity itself. And we show
Starting point is 00:54:32 in the film that this movement was the foundation for January 6th. They were the moving elements that made January 6th and the insurrection happened. And now we have a Speaker of the House who is an avowed Christian nationalist. He even says that the teachings of the Bible and what he believes, whatever he believes God's will is, overtakes the Constitution and that all decisions have to be made based on his thinking. So we have this now inculcated in our government. And Donald Trump is more than happy to be their mouthpiece. And we see this connection. And it's brought out in the film.
Starting point is 00:55:16 And it's very scary because there's a possibility. And we talk about it in the film that we could slip into an autocracy very easily. You hear this all the time. Huh? Any minute. Many other shows that the fight right now is between whether or not we preserve our democracy or we slip into a theocratic autocracy. That's what this movement
Starting point is 00:55:37 wants. They believe that this is a white Christian nation. That's what it should be. And that's what we bring out in the film and they're not only poisoning uh the democracy they're also poisoning christianity oh sure yes here is the real irony and the big disappointment here rob reiner's a direct used to be a really good director for fictional product. He's not a documentarian.
Starting point is 00:56:12 The Democrats lost their guy, Michael Moore, when he did his documentary on the scam of climate change. And he was just eliminated from the picture. Where's Michael Moore this go-round when he usually does the kind of documentaries that now they have to pass it off to Rob Reiner? Yeah. Who's not a documentarian and doesn't know what he's doing? Well, he produced it. A guy named Dan Patland is the director.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I'm not familiar with him. And I have a clip of them both in a minute, but I just wanted to give a little palette refresher here with Joy Reid. Johnson is so far out there that even other Republicans are pushing back on the God talk. But this is why we need to be very concerned. Mike Johnson has the conviction, the motivation, and now the opportunity to steal the next election for Donald Trump. He is a far right wing evangelical Christian who suggested his election as House Speaker was ordained literally by God, even billing himself as a modern day Moses. I don't I don't remember that. I don't remember that either. But does that is that different than every black football player in the world thanking god
Starting point is 00:57:26 and jesus after the game when they win oh how about the grammy difference there how about the grammys thank you but god gave me the lyrics well yeah you can only do that so far taylor swift's gonna get mad but well here comes her kicker so if god tells him to steal a few elections to make trump president what's she gonna do and then what happens if god tells him to make trump president for life oh yeah okay okay sure this is the end she's gonna burn in hell let's face it okay so i only have three more clips and then i'll stop i could play 20 more because i find it fascinating you can do a whole show we do a special once you do a special You could do a whole show. We'd do a special. Once you do a special I'm not going to do a special. Yeah. Do you remember
Starting point is 00:58:10 Okay, maybe I'll do a special. What should I call it? Oh, by the way, we were looking for like a genocide Joe name for Hillary. We got one. Holocaust Hillary. It writes itself. I can't believe that we didn't come up with it.
Starting point is 00:58:26 We did now. Do you remember Laura Flanders? Of course. She still has a show. Did you know that? I didn't. I mean, I didn't know she had a TV podcast, a podcast show. No, she has a show that goes over the air.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Oh, this was a podcast. Okay. Well, I think her podcast is the same show. Well, Laura Flandanders had rob reiner and oh my god those two together it's like and damn price it didn't it really is surprising because there were some revelations in here so reiner produced the movie the movie i say with the big name the documentary dan patland is the director well in this top class of ambassadors so what he's doing here he's going to he has a chart and he says hold on a second how come he's going around
Starting point is 00:59:12 that what producer do you know and we have a few that work on our show uh go around to promote it's usually the director or the main character it usually it's not the producer unless it's producer director that goes around promoting the movie unless they did it well because he they're desperate there is there's nothing left to do but now just go straight to religion which is one of the most un-american things i could think of to be honest to go after religion and then you know couch it in all it's just some fringe group and they're all behind Trump. I mean, and the Dan guy, he's dumb because he says things that are stupid. So he has this chart that she puts up on the screen and he shows that one third of America is really Christian.
Starting point is 01:00:01 They're just Christian. They believe in God and Jesus Christ. And then there's another third in the middle, and they might be, maybe we can sway them. But he has to admit that two-thirds of America just kind of believes in Jesus Christ and God. But so, and he says, but, you know, this movie, this movie that he made is to convince that one-third in the middle to flip,
Starting point is 01:00:24 I guess, away from Jesus. Well, in this top class, those are probably most of the people we're talking about when we say Christian nationalists. This may be as much as 20 percent of the population. OK, that's a huge, huge number. 20 percent who have deeply held beliefs that the United States is. Hold on. stop it again. I'm listening to this and I can't tell if it's Rob Reiner speaking in a lower register or is it Laura speaking? I can't tell.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Well, it's Patlund. It's the Dan guy. Oh, it's the other guy. He sounds like a combination of the two. ...percent who have deeply held beliefs that the United States is and should be officially a Christian nation and are looking to write that into law. That's the population that we have to be worried about. But what makes it so difficult to address is that when you consider the next tier, people who you'd call accommodators of Christian nationalism or even resistors. call accommodators of Christian nationalism, or even resistors. Now you're talking about really almost two-thirds to three-quarters of the country have at least some bit of Christian nationalist belief. And some of it is fine, of course. This is basically a Christian nation. There's a background of Christianity throughout the history of this republic.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Oh, okay. The sort of benign ways that it starts, which is just recognizing that there's a lot of Christian people here, quickly becomes a slippery slope with this casual language of, well, but the United States is basically a Christian nation. Well, what does that mean? What does that mean? And I think what we have to do is we have to draw that bright line again between the separation of church and state, which is a foundational American principle, which I cannot believe in the year 2024 is becoming fuzzy to people. So what they're trying to say is that the separation of church and state, which is which they all point to the First Amendment, where the First Amendment says the government shall make no religion official religion, you know Religion cannot block a religion, of course. Didn't matter because the church is closed anyway when they were told, oh, scary COVID.
Starting point is 01:02:29 But what they're trying to do is turn it around a little bit and say, hey, these Christians, they can't be making laws based on what they believe. And there is something called the lemon test, I believe, which could be used to stop lawmakers. But in general, if you're a Marxist or a socialist, you may, and we have lots of socialist-based laws and Marxist-based laws, but they're very afraid that the crazy Christian nationalists are going to take hold and they're going to make all the
Starting point is 01:03:00 laws based upon what God told them. Well, one of the things I learned that I didn't know before, Robert, from the film was just how recent it is that the word God appears on our coins in the Pledge of Allegiance. Well, I was in school, actually, in 1954, when they added under God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Yes. And you know why they did that? Because it's true. did that because it's true in 1954 president eisenhower encouraged congress to add the words under god because of commies like you they were afraid of communists taking over our country and
Starting point is 01:03:37 using our pledge of allegiance as a communist mantra so they added uh god used to be one nation indivisible then it became one be one nation indivisible. Then it became one nation under God indivisible. And I remember when that happened, because we gave that pledge every morning in school. So it, you know, it really started happening around then. And we've seen it grow over time. But the question you ask, which is how do you undo it?
Starting point is 01:04:01 And the way in which you undo it is not, you know, you're never going to get that hardcore group of people that just believe it and you can't convince them. It's those others, those other layers that Dan talked about. If you can get to those people to make them understand that this is destroying their faith in a way, It's undermining their faith. That's the way in which I think you can undo it. Well, because, you know, the crazy Christian nationalists are really hurting Jesus.
Starting point is 01:04:36 There's all kinds of, you know, pie in the sky kind of things, like getting rid of the Electoral College and things like that, which would actually make it more democratic and majority rule. There we are. We are not really majority. Let's get rid of it. Pie in the sky. But if we really want to get rid of it. Rule in the country. There are a lot of safeguards for the minority to make sure that they're not, you know, run roughshod. Yes. Over, you know, by the electoral college. Yeah. He wants to get rid of it. It's pie in the sky. It's like a dream is what he means by that. It's a dream to get rid of that. We'll work
Starting point is 01:05:10 on that party. But when the when that minority gets too much power, then they're running rough shot over the vast majority. And that's what you have to wrestle with. And that's our it's it's in our civics classes. You have to understand how
Starting point is 01:05:25 how it works all right so final clip uh rob reiner i thought he was uh jewish he was born jewish into a jewish family but we he's an atheist oh no we have a lot to learn about uh rob reiner's uh religious beliefs become a budd. Rob, you've gone on a journey yourself. You've talked about in the context of this film. Even though I am Jewish, I was not raised that way. But in a time in my life when I was going through the worst period of soul searching, I read everything. I read Buddhism and books about Christianity and Hinduism. I read Buddhism and, you know, books about Christianity and Hinduism. I read everything. And what I came around thinking is's called the golden rule, because if you can live
Starting point is 01:06:26 by that, everything else falls into place. You don't need the Ten Commandments. You don't need a lot if you just live by that rule. And then I look at this film and I look at what's happening in this country, and it seems like we've come so far from those teachings. Okay. So just to he read he read some books about christianity he didn't read the bible he read some books about him and uh and he says you know the teachings of jesus do unto others which i think he's referring to the sermon on the mount the beatitudes which are a little bit more than that but if you are a masochist like he is do unto others i think he loves that. Yeah, let me be mean
Starting point is 01:07:06 and hateful and spiteful. He's extremely hateful, this guy. And he wants that to be done to him. Then that's his golden rule. That's his entire takeaway from Hinduism, Buddhism, some books about Christianity, and being born a Jew is, please
Starting point is 01:07:22 be as mean to me as I am to you. This guy is sinful. That's what he is. So, anyway, you can look for... Well, that's a long way. That's a Shaggy Dog story if you're going to end with that. Well, I mean, I have so... It's like PBS.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Everyone was rolling it out. It was insane. And what I think is going to happen, these people are so stupid, they're actually going to create revival in America. It's overdue. It's a cycle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Oh, it is. It's overdue. I remember studying this when I was a big mystery. Wasn't it late 60s, late 60s, early 70s? We had a war going on, but everybody. Nothing like in the 1800s. There's a real revival. Tell me about the 1800s there's just a real revival about the 1800s tell me i don't know there were some tremendous like a decade of revivalism that was just out of control and we have seen nothing like that in our lifetimes do you think it's a cycle and we're overdue are you sure it's not an op i think it's a cycle and we're overdue
Starting point is 01:08:22 it's the j Jesus op is coming. Well, I don't know if the CIA gets its act together, maybe. But I'm not seeing it. I think they are so desperate. This is the last thing they can do. Let's connect it to Trump. Let's connect it to January 6th. Let's bring in Rob Reiner. I mean, that says desperation right there.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And I think you're right. We're overdue. It's a backfire. We're going to have a revival, and I look forward to it. I look at this slightly different than you do. I think this is just laying the groundwork for excuses how Trump lost the election to Biden. When
Starting point is 01:09:01 they go through the same process of rigging the election like they did last time uh it was done with mail-in ballots which is going to be much more difficult to pull off this time uh and you're going to say and when it happens you say well you know yeah trump says he got it was stolen but in fact and then they'll go through the same thing you just did and these are the reasons he lost oh you, so you're. Wait a minute. How does that work with our thesis that the Democrats want Trump to win?
Starting point is 01:09:30 I think a fact. Well, it goes this. The two things can be true at the same time. I think the smart Democrats do want Trump to win. And because they know that things are going to be so screwed up, they may be out of office for a long time if Biden stays in for another four years. And that's the smart money. But Biden's people that got him in the first time, which seems to be like a locomotive out of control, which is basically the Obama administration. You know, they don't think that way.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Well, I mean, I don see how how it just can't happen now it's it's like i mean with unless there's unless they cheat better than the republicans the republicans will be ready though now the republicans should be able to cheat yeah they should hold their own they should be doing it i it. I've never thought the Republicans were as good at it as the Democrats. Just, for example, Washington State. All mail-in ballots, all Democrats. And really bad Democrats, lousy ones like Inslee. Inslee, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:38 California. Absentee ballots are the way to go. Most people do that. And there's also other notorious rigging mechanisms in the Democrats. It's democracy, man. It's democracy. It's democracy.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I would love to switch gears to this fake moon landing. And I see you have a three by three, so I'd be excited to do that if you're game. Yeah, I want to do this. Yeah, let's do the moon landing i got a three by three here and i want to start it well you played the jingle and now it's time for three by three hello everybody experiment by jcb yes we got a three comparing stories from abc cbs and nbc the never-ending three by three that's right it took us over 50 years to get back to the moon, everybody, and boy, was it a doozy.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Are you waiting for the video? Stand by. John's got a 3x3 to see how the big three news networks' news shows covered it. We'll start with the top network for people who watch news on TV, ABC. It's a mission with major implications. The first American spacecraft to land on the moon in more than 50 years. Separation confirmed. The lunar lander Odysseus, nicknamed Odie, built by Houston-based Intuitive Machines, blasting off a week ago on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, traveling
Starting point is 01:11:57 a quarter of a million miles to the moon. Odie carrying instruments that will gather information about the lunar surface ahead of NASA's Artemis mission to the moon in 2026 with humans on board. Americans first landed on the moon on Apollo 11 in 1969. We will be here from now on for what will be truly a historic time. That's one small step for man, truly a historic time. That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. The last time, back in 1972 on Apollo 17. Now, Odie's mission sets into motion a new beginning in exploring the moon and the universe. That south pole, the dark side of the moon, has water and ice, which is critical if we want to use the moon as a home base to one
Starting point is 01:12:45 day explore Mars and beyond. The moon has one sixth the gravity of Earth and no atmosphere, so it's a much easier place to launch deeper into the solar system. It really is the launching pad into human exploration out into deep space. And David, we have just received confirmation. into deep space. And David, we have just received confirmation. Odie has made it to the lunar surface at that south pole, that critical south pole, where there is water and ice.
Starting point is 01:13:12 So, Odie has officially landed on the moon. Wait a minute. I thought it was going to find out if there was water and ice. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. And how do they know there's water and ice if it went there to see if there's water and ice? Because they had a camera for the landing oh i'm sorry they didn't it's so crazy it's not it's so crazy when you see the the old footage almost as old as i am of you know riding the
Starting point is 01:13:36 dune buggy playing golf bouncing around the golf but yeah we can't seem to have an actual video of the landing of this thing, which looks like something that Adam and John could have put together in our garage with some tinfoil and some broom handles. Well, it was put together in Texas. So, my understanding is that it actually did come down and kind of landed and fell over. It fell over. So, now it's on its side, and it doesn't have any mechanisms to upright itself. It's not like, you know, one of those.
Starting point is 01:14:11 It's not like a cheap toy. You used to be able to buy at Toys R Us that whatever the kid did, it would flip itself back to normal. They can't even come up with that. That technology is old. It's with toys to have it. The thing flips over. It's back to standing up. Basically sand in the bottom of the big clown you could hit.
Starting point is 01:14:29 And it would ride itself. Nice. How about training wheels? Let's go with Tom Costello on NBC. Leave it to a 14-foot robot named Odysseus to stick the first U.S. moon landing since Apollo. Stick the landing? Are you kidding me? Stick the landing? I mean,
Starting point is 01:14:51 that's a term with a plane. I can't believe what these people are doing. But we can confirm without a doubt that our equipment is on the surface of the moon. Houston-based intuitive machines, now the first private company to successfully... No, it's not sticking the landing at all. We can confirm it's on the moon. Houston-based intuitive machines, now the first private company to successfully... No, it's not sticking the landing at all.
Starting point is 01:15:07 We can confirm it's on the moon. If it crash-landed and blew into a million pieces, you could say the same thing. Apollo. What we can confirm, without a doubt, is our equipment... Right there, without a doubt, that to me is the lie. Without a doubt, he's got doubt. Without a doubt, is our equipment is on the surface of the moon houston-based intuitive machines now the first private company to
Starting point is 01:15:30 successfully land on the moon houston odysseus has found his new home but now troubleshooting a communications issue and liftoff go space go i am one and the odysseus lunar lander odysseus launched on a spacex rocket just seven days ago sending back spectacular photos of earth as it rocketed towards the lunar south pole on board six hold on spectacular pictures of earth all did you see the one picture i've seen from this thing wasn't even earth it was like a a round metal ball with somehow some snow on it i mean did you see this picture no it's very it's very very weird being back spectacular photos of earth as it rocketed towards the lunar south pole on board six nasa experiments the ice water on the pole makes it
Starting point is 01:16:27 nasa's target zone when astronauts return in just a few years now they're also saying ice water they're saying as if it's that i'm confused the the top two networks so far have said that there is water on the moon even though this fallen this tipped over thing is supposed to find out if there's water on the moon this is good this is the south pole of the moon that's correct in a nasa simulator we saw the hostile conditions they'll have to navigate the sun hanging very low on the horizon those shadows are so long to To cut costs, NASA has hired 14 private companies to run advanced experiments on the moon, though many could fail. It's really, really difficult to land on the moon. I mean, there's no air or to slow you down, so you can't use parachutes.
Starting point is 01:17:16 The Odysseus lander will only have 12 to 13 days before its solar power runs out. But tonight, just getting there is mission accomplished. What I love about this is that everyone's coming to my side of the argument. We just never landed there. It's so obvious now. I mean, people who are all in on, they love Musk, they love space travel, they're looking at this and going, yeah, it can't be. This is, it's really, really hard.
Starting point is 01:17:44 There's, you know, it's tough to land on the moon well how do we do it 50 years ago yeah that wasn't real that was you know that was because of the russians it's amazing it's uh i still think that the the image of comparing this this little piece of crap and that fell over compared to the driving around in a dune buggy. Playing golf. Playing golf. Remember they were playing golf? Playing golf is like kind of a contrast.
Starting point is 01:18:12 But you never know. It's possible. That's when Wernher von Braun was alive. Yeah. So let's go to the CIA's best outlet and see what they have to say. Tonight, the odyssey of Odysseus has ended on the moon. The first American-made spacecraft kicking up lunar dust in more than a half century. Our equipment is on the surface of the moon.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Jubilant. Mission control of intuitive machines in Houston. Also, this mission control was dorky. Like a bunch of nerds in a round room. I mean, it didn't have a cool look. It didn't have a mission controller guy, you know, standing there like chewing on a cigar. We're sticking the landing, boys.
Starting point is 01:18:59 No, none of that. And they were like, oh, yeah, we did it. Yay. The first commercial moon landing ever. The final descent from 18 miles above the lunar surface, a continuous engine burn for 10 minutes. By touchdown, Odysseus had slowed to two miles per hour. This is the assembly room. Intuitive co-founder Steve Altima showed us the historic moon lander up close last
Starting point is 01:19:25 year in Houston. By the way, that's incorrect, the two miles per hour, but I have a clip to prove that after the three by three. His company envisions a 100 billion dollar lunar market. We're delivering scientific payloads, engineering demonstration payloads, but not the humans themselves. And you believe the moon is the next economic frontier? The moon is certainly that next step for space exploration. Odysseus landed near the lunar South Pole carrying less than 300 pounds of cargo, including six instruments for NASA, an intuitive customer. The space agency hopes to have astronauts moonwalking there by the end of the decade. Moonwalking?
Starting point is 01:20:02 Some craters there never see light. So cold, they may contain ice. And water is critical to long-term space exploration. NASA plans to basically hire these companies to send payloads to the moon like you'd call an Uber or a Lyft. But these companies have to make it work first, and that's what we're seeing today. Not since the end of the Apollo era has an American lander parked itself on the surface of the moon. This mission will last roughly a week until lunar night freezes the solar batteries. Oh, and so then the thing is just dead in a week.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Oh, man. So here is, this is so stupid. Maybe dead now for all we know. Yeah. Well, listen... And by the way, that report from CBS did not... It did the right thing about the water. Yeah, but they lied about the speed.
Starting point is 01:20:51 We think we came down with, like I said, about six miles an hour this way and about two miles an hour this way and caught a foot in the surface and the lander has tipped. We think. He doesn't even know. They don't have telemetry on this thing? The simplest the absolute simplest gadget
Starting point is 01:21:14 in an airplane can tell you if you're flying on your side or upside down. But we think our foot caught on maybe it was like a rock or something and then we tipped over surface and and the lander has tipped like this and we believe this is the surface the the orientation of the lander on the moon doesn't even know the actual orientation which i think is
Starting point is 01:21:39 two-spirit and nearly 24 hours later scientists say the lander is still stable and they do have communication with it the sun is charging all the batteries on board wait a minute it's the dark side of the moon no they they mentioned that that's at the point where the sun is just glimpsing over the uh horizon oh and like a good little newbie, you bought it. And it has enough juice at that level to charge it. Oh, yeah. I believe it right away. I believe all of this.
Starting point is 01:22:09 ... all of the batteries on board. Now, keep in mind, they have not seen any images from the lander at this point and are relying simply on data and code to really understand what is happening with the lander on the moon. Now, we did talk about pictures from the surface. These scientists say we could possibly see some images later this weekend but at this time scientists are not commenting on whether or not any of the payloads on board could be in jeopardy if this lander is in fact on its side
Starting point is 01:22:36 they don't even know if it's on its side i have one more report this will make it a three by three plus one this is from anderson 360 kristin tell us what's really going on with this moon landing. The first time a private company has ever done this. The first time an American made spacecraft has done this since 1972. And Anderson, it's the first time that any spacecraft has touched down on the south pole of the moon, a critical spot. They think that's where ice is, water. It's where NASA wants to build a lunar base for Artemis astronauts, the first astronauts to return to the moon since the Apollo
Starting point is 01:23:11 program. And it's where China wants to build a base as well. China. But Anderson, some real nail-biting moments. The past administrator described it as an Apollo 13 moment with no humans on board, of course, because of some of the technical issues they had to troubleshoot. Yeah. What happened? I mean, up until the last second, the difficulties. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anderson, it's so wild. I mean, they were really fixing on the fly. They had an issue. You know how radar works. Radar, it sends out a radio signal, which then bounces off an object, which lets you tell how far away you are from it. Well, this is LIDAR, laser, instead of radio waves, light waves bouncing off of it. And that's what the spacecraft, this robotic uncrewed spacecraft uses to find a safe landing spot
Starting point is 01:23:53 because the moon has, you know, craters and boulders all over it. There was a problem with Intuitive Machines' LIDAR navigation system. And so it just so happened that NASA had an experimental LIDAR payload. I loved a little laugh in there. So it just so happened. The problem with intuitive machines is LIDAR navigation system. And so it just so happened that NASA had an experimental LIDAR payload on the lander as well. They were somehow able to patch it through to the lunar lander, Odysseus, and that experimental NASA navigation system, LIDAR, is what they were able to use to get this on the surface of the moon.
Starting point is 01:24:39 So pretty incredible that they were able to pull it off. But now we want to see the pictures anderson right yeah we do right time for the boys get to work can someone explain or somebody ask they don't even bother to ask why they're using lidar instead of radar no because it's it's lidar l-i-e-d-a-r lidar lidar lidar is a show title, Lidar. I'm writing it down. Writing it down. Writing it down.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Lidar. I like that a lot. Oh, it's also sick. It's a botch. That's a face. Let's just call it what it is. Well, how about it hasn't happened at all? The thing landed, hit a rock, fell over, and I can't get up.
Starting point is 01:25:22 I've fallen and I can't get up. Well, too bad. Let's just say none of it's true. I'm not believing it. And what is this outfit? What is this intuitive machines? Hmm? Where's the CEO?
Starting point is 01:25:36 Did you look him up? Look him up. They're in the wiki page. Wiki page, but how about a page on them? Intuitive Machines. It's an American Express company? Really? Who are the investors?
Starting point is 01:25:51 Let me see who the investors are. I think it's a different company. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Is this in Houston? We open access to the moon for the progress of humanity. What can it do? This is an American Express company? They're on NASDAQ.
Starting point is 01:26:05 They're a public company. L-U-N-R is the ticker symbol. Lunar. Yes. Founded in 2013. They've had three NASA lunar missions. Oh, I love this. Years of executive aerospace experience.
Starting point is 01:26:21 250 years of experience. If you count up all the old dudes who must be working there yeah of course um so it was this a SPAC this smells of a SPAC I have no idea well I think we should short it no wonder the government money coming in I don't think so well yeah well uh i thought it's yes uh no it's not an american expression american company headquartered in houston founded by stephen altimus cam gaffarian tim crane blah blah blah blah blah well they got a lot of money they must have a lot of money. They took it public. That was just so they could cash out the money that comes from the government.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Yeah. Yeah. Well, how come we're never in these scams? Because we're not scammers. Oh. Hello? You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:27:19 You're right. Hmm. Wagbi Ofori, Partnership and Open Innovation Strategist. We got to talk to that guy. Hey, Wogby, how do we get in on this? Wogby. Is that his name? Wogby?
Starting point is 01:27:33 Yeah. W-O-G. Hey, Wog. They call them Wogs. The Wogs. Wogby. It's all these dudes with crew cuts. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, fine. I mean, I wish them well. Too bad it tipped over. We think. We don't actually know.
Starting point is 01:27:53 We don't actually know if it tipped over. Nobody even thought that it might tip over and there'd be some mechanism to stand it back up. That's what gets me. If it tipped over, which I get the sense that it did. Yeah. gets me if it tipped over which i get the sense that it did yeah they couldn't stand it back up because they never thought that it would ever tip over hello listen to this so they have lunar access services one of them is ride share let's see get it yeah ride share getting to space should be easy and custom tailored toored to fit your needs.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Our lunar transfer orbit delivery services can accommodate up to 1,000 kilograms of payload and deliver customers into a myriad of high-energy orbits. We launch payloads for deployment after launch vehicle separation and from the steadfast platform of our landers in lunar orbit. Your results may vary due to road and weather conditions. So they're going to be a ride share company. It's the Uber of space. I get it. Yeah, there's a money maker.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Somehow you got to think that this is bull crap. Alright, let's go to Ukraine. Oh, goody. I spotted a new term that we have to keep an eye on. Okay. And let's play Ukraine anniversary.
Starting point is 01:29:13 The term is, well, you'll hear it in here. I used the initials FSI, Ukraine anniversary. Today, Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine enters its third year. And on this anniversary of the start of the war, it's worth stepping back and noting that neither Russia nor Ukraine has made progress on its goals, despite hundreds of thousands of casualties on both sides. Russia has failed to occupy all of Ukraine, and Ukraine has failed to retake all of the land occupied by Russian forces. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Russia never said they were going to occupy the whole country. Tell me about it. So let's play. I want to play these two FSI clips. These are the two. This is Nick Schifrin, the first one. I think you just heard that. Yep.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Play FSI. Nick Schifrin. Oh, hold on. Is that something different? Oh, yeah. This is from NPR. I'm sorry. Okay Schifrin. Oh, hold on. Is that something different? Oh, yeah. Yeah, this is from NPR. I'm sorry. Okay, thank you. Got it.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Before the full-scale invasion, the 28-year-old who asked us to withhold his last name was a snowboard instructor. A tour guide. Oh, full-scale invasion. Oh, so this is the new new. This is the new new. Hey, listen. Putin failed at his... And here it is on FSI on PBS, is the new, new. It's like. This is the new, new. Hey, listen. Putin failed. And here it is on FSI and PBS, just to get it again.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yes. Okay. Today, Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine enters its third year. Good catch. Good catch. So, this is it. Now, this is just two. I've heard about five of these.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Oh, how annoying. And they've decided to drop in. Now, do you remember when this started three years ago? I certainly do. There was no full-scale invasion. There were a bunch of under-fueled tanks that kind of came into the country and stalled. A full-scale invasion by the Russian army wouldn't be what we were seeing in Ukraine. And the Russians themselves just called it a military action, a police action.
Starting point is 01:31:08 They didn't even want to use the word war. Special military operation. It's all about the Donbass region. That is not a full-scale invasion. Yet, PBS and NPR, among others, are now using this term full-scale invasion. I feel ripped off by these great media organizations. So you heard part one of the NPR full-scale invasion. Let's play part two.
Starting point is 01:31:35 But as Ukraine runs low on ammunition and weapons, with resupplies from the United States and other allies more in doubt than ever, Russia is going on the offensive in Ukraine's east. Joining us to discuss this is NPR's Kyiv correspondent, Joanna Kakissis. Hey, Joanna. Hey, Scott. So tell us how Ukrainians are observing this anniversary today. So, Scott, it's a somber day. Ukrainians are very proud that their country is still defending itself against a much larger enemy with a much larger arsenal. But there is just a sense of exhaustion and loss.
Starting point is 01:32:07 And you could really sense that at a rally in central Kiev today where many were demonstrating to highlight the cases of thousands of Ukrainian prisoners of war. Here's Anton Tarasov. He's a 49-year-old soldier who is in a cave on a short break from the front lines to see his elderly mom. I'm not even sure to who this is more difficult to the civilians or to the soldiers. Like my mom, for example, she's eight years old, but we are stronger than Russians. We love freedom too much. We love it more than they love war. So we will win. We love freedom more than they love war.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Yeah. Oh, there's a slogan. I love that one. So this was no good, this report. So we have to go back to PBS and let's get to Victoria Nuland so we can really get the BS up at the highest level possible. She was everywhere. She was everywhere. She was with What's Her Face, with Christiane Amanpour. She was blanketing. And it's great to have her back on the airwaves because, once again, it reminds us what evil and sin does to your overall look. She is... She looks terrible. The Biden administration today unveiled a new set of sanctions against Russia
Starting point is 01:33:32 to punish it further for the full-scale invasion of Ukraine that began two years ago tomorrow. The sanctions are also meant to target Russia for the death of anti-corruption activist and politician Alexei Navalny. He died in an Arctic prison one week ago from a cause still unknown. Earlier today, I spoke with U.S. Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, about the state of the war two years on. Victoria Nuland, welcome back to the NewsHour.
Starting point is 01:33:59 As the world prepares to mark the second anniversary of Putin's Ukraine invasion, Ukraine's counteroffensive has stalled. Ukraine lost a brutal months-long battle for Avdiivka. Additional funding, as you well know, is stuck in the GOP-led house. And Russia is showing no signs of quitting. What is the outlook for Ukraine right now? Well, Jeff, you are not wrong that these are tough days for Ukraine. And as you said, they've had to come
Starting point is 01:34:26 out of avdiaivka when i was out there a couple of weeks ago there were soldiers on the front line with only 20 bullets a day to defend themselves and this is why the administration is pushing so hard for this additional 60 billion dollars to support ukraine yeah so two things um this 20 20 shells a day is a meme she's repeated everywhere and what bull crap is that i'm sitting in a foxhole they're shooting at me i got a bunch of a bucket full of bullets i shoot the 20 off ivan you've got to stop this is your limit yeah are you kidding me? No, because of Trump. Because Trump told the GOP not to pass the money. And therefore, these poor Ukrainians are sitting in their trenches, because it's just like World War I.
Starting point is 01:35:16 It's a war of attrition. And they only have 20 shells a day. Now, when she says shells, it's a little unclear if they have, that's 20 shells, like the big ones that are shooting out of the cannons? I thought she said 20 bullets. Let me listen to the end there. That is important. Battle for Avdiivka and the GOP. And I didn't like that she said, you're not wrong. You are not wrong that these are tough days for Ukraine.
Starting point is 01:35:43 And as you said, they've had to come out of Avdiyavka. When I was out there a couple of weeks ago, there were soldiers on the front line with only 20 bullets. Okay, she says bullets. In a report I have, she said shells. So it's bullets. Maybe it's shells. But she said bullets, so bullets is bullets.
Starting point is 01:35:58 She said bullets. That means you're sitting in a foxhole with a bucket full of bullets and you can only shoot 20 of them. And if they come at you, too bad. Don't use any more of those bullets because you only had 20. You got a bayonet. That's what the bayonet is for. Okay, onward with her crap.
Starting point is 01:36:18 With this money, we actually think that they can make some serious gains in 2024 particularly by enhancing some of the asymmetric techniques that they have been using asymmetric techniques yeah rocks what is an asymmetric technique in warfare well they said what they showed is a fighter jets little bitty dinky drones with like a with like a handgun duct tape to the front. That's what the Canadians are giving them, the UK. A million drones, a million tiny drones. So there's these drones and they got a little handgun. You can see a little gun sitting on there.
Starting point is 01:36:54 And it flies around and shoots just randomly. And every time it shoots, it backs up about five feet because of the, yeah. This is asymmetric. That's asymmetric. Okay, got it. But we need to support them just as the Europeans have just given them an additional $54 billion. Well, so far, House Speaker Mike Johnson has refused to bring up a Senate passed package, at least for a quick
Starting point is 01:37:17 vote. Is there a way for the administration to get that mucheded aid to Ukraine absent action from Congress? Jeff, I would just start by reminding that this bill passed overwhelmingly in the Senate. Seventy senators supported it. And they supported it because they understand that as much as this is about Ukraine's ability to survive as a democratic state, it is also about the larger principles of a free and open international order that benefits the United States. And that if we don't stand with Ukraine, if Putin wins here, then dictators and tyrants all over the world will take note and will get hungry with their own territorial aspirations. So we need to pass this money and the american people broadly understand that so we are hopeful that they will tell their members when they're
Starting point is 01:38:12 home uh during this recess uh how much they support this this money and and uh we are confident okay so a couple things one if we support. Two, they didn't go home on their recess. They all went to Ukraine. Everybody was in Ukraine. Queen Ursula is in Ukraine. Chuck Schumer is in Ukraine. Everyone is hanging out in Ukraine, bowing to Zelensky. And here's the question. If it's so known that they only have 20 bullets a day, why't putin gone full roughshod and just ran right over everybody if they if they're out of ammo that it's it's it's the end of the exercise here if it really was a fsi don't you think that it would have ended by now or is putin's mission he's an idiot we're being told different than we're being told the other thing is throughout this interview and there's these how many clips are there five this is three we're at three now we're on number three
Starting point is 01:39:09 uh the throughout this interview and all the other new and stuff you've heard not one reporter even brought up or mentioned negotiations to end this idiotic war that's costing billions and billions and tens of billions of dollars. Well, would you want to be out of a job? Here we go. President Biden today announced more than 500 sanctions on Russia. This is the largest tranche since the conflict started. Is this a tacit admission that the previous sanctions haven't worked? What with Russia's military industrial complex up and running? I love, I hear this more often now too. There's a military industrial complex, but it's only Russia. We don't have one. Seemingly drawing on limitless supplies and support from its authoritarian allies. Well, let me start with your premise, Jeff, that previous sanctions haven't
Starting point is 01:40:03 worked. Russia has become a pariah state around the world, thrown out of the international banking system, and now so desperate for weapons that it has to go to countries like Iran and North Korea to get them. But those Russians are wily, and they have over the last six years. Wily. They're wily. They're wily. I love that one. Those Russians are wily. They're wily-y coyote. To get them. But those Russians are wily, and they have over the last six months found ways
Starting point is 01:40:31 to evade sanctions. But we've also got smarter about how to hurt them. And that's why this package is so massive. It looks at punishing sanctions evaders. It looks at closing down further Russia's access to credit and finance. It also punishes for the death of the leading opposition figure, Navalny, at the hands of Putin and his present guards. And it sanctions those involved in the abduction of Ukrainian children into Russia. So it is a massive package. And partly it's because we've got to staunch this evasion. Can I just interject your clip sequence here with one? No, you can't right now because you have to back it up and listen to what she said at the very end.
Starting point is 01:41:20 I heard about the children. I heard about the children. No, no, no. There's this phrase she uses. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Oh, can I, do you want me to play the last few seconds of that clip? Yeah. Those involved in the abduction of Ukrainian children into Russia. So it is a massive package, and partly it's because we've got to staunch this evasion. Staunch this evasion?
Starting point is 01:41:49 Staunch this evasion staunch this evasion staunch this invasion i think she said evasion she didn't say invasion yeah she did say evasion but the word i'm looking for play clip floor four because it's only this this this term it is a massive package and partly it's because we've got to staunch this evasion and because um we have far more targets now as we understand better how to staunch the russian industrial complex staunch look it up go right now and look up staunch and tell me what the hell she's talking about firm and dependable especially in loyalty stop the flow of a liquid to staunch to stop the flow um that's what i'm getting right off the hand right off hands stop staunch to check or stop the flowing of stop or check in its course to make so stop to stop the flow to staunch just to staunch to stop the flow, to staunch, to staunch, to stop the flow.
Starting point is 01:42:45 It doesn't sound like defeat. I just found it peculiar. No, it's ridiculous. Can I just... Yeah, play your clip. Yeah, just about the sanctions, the great sanctions that we've placed on Russia. Oil tankers like these are still bringing Russian oil into the EU. And it earned the Kremlin 1.1 billion euros last year. According to a new report by the NGO Global Witness,
Starting point is 01:43:13 a legal loophole is allowing Russia to sell its oil in the EU despite a sanctions ban against imports. Countries which haven't imposed sanctions on Russian oil are able to import millions of barrels of Russian crude oil. They refine them in those countries and at the point that they've become a refined product like fuel or diesel, it's no longer considered Russian and so this fuel is freely imported into the European Union. They followed oil tanker movements and delved into publicly available Russian tax revenue information in their research. The oil is mainly coming through India and Turkey, but also Bulgaria, which is actually inside the EU. When the EU brought in the sanctions on refined petroleum products in February 2023, they did so with limited exceptions.
Starting point is 01:44:00 One of those exceptions being to allow Bulgaria to continue to import refined oil in order to prevent a major economic hit to the EU's poorest nation. So bullcrap. Bullcrap. They don't really mean it. They just want money. Interesting is that is the figure that they used this oil coming out of Russia. I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I What am I thinking? And I hope your Newland clip has the money shot. Does it? Clip five? Yes. Is it the money shot? Otherwise, I got the money shot. No, mine doesn't have the money. I don't know if it does or not. I don't know what you're looking for. But once you play this, then you play your money shot. quite worrying, is that Russia has been willing to intensify its economic and security relationship with China, in fact, becoming increasingly dependent on China. And that is how it is fueling its war machine. It's also been willing to put the vast majority of its own
Starting point is 01:45:20 economic stimulus into the war effort. So it is starving Russia and Russians of investment in education in their own future, all in service of Putin's imperial ambitions. So what we're having to do is adjust as well. As we wrap up our conversation, you said you're confident that the aid package will ultimately pass Congress. There is this question, though, of what good would additional... Wait a minute, what did he just say? He just said it'll pass ultimately? What?
Starting point is 01:45:50 Do is adjust as well. As we wrap up our conversation, you said you're confident that the aid package will ultimately pass Congress. There is this question, though, of what good would additional aid do, especially among those who view this as a war of attrition and point to the slow progress of Ukraine's counteroffensive. If the U.S. continues to provide Ukraine the same sorts of weapons, why wouldn't that lead to a further stalemate? First of all, this aid is going to allow Ukraine to do four things. It's going to allow them to continue to fight.
Starting point is 01:46:26 It's going to allow them to build a highly deterrent military of the future so that they will increasingly be able to stand on their own feet in security terms. It's going to help them recover and get more of their own people home and rebuild their tax base so that there's less economic support that they need from the rest of the world and it's also going to help them reform and become a more European democratic country with this money on the battlefield first and foremost it will ensure Ukraine can hold the line but as I said they're getting increasingly proficient at asymmetric weapons. And I expect, as I said in Kiev a couple of weeks ago when I was there, that if we can provide this support, Putin's going to get some very nasty surprises on the battlefield in 2024. Bullshit. bullshit.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Okay, so yes, big bull crap, because when she was talking to globalist Christiane Amanpour, she had a whole different story about this money. No one mentioned that, that's what we needed, they needed bullets. No, we're going to give them money so they can bring people back home, so they can start their tax base. And no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:47:45 She said a couple of quiet things out loud in this interview. What's your response to him and others here telling us, you know, America talks a good game, but right now we're stalled and it needs to remember it is the father, mother of democracy and freedom around the world. Oh, yeah. Well, thank you, Christian. That's the point that President Biden is making as well.
Starting point is 01:48:05 And that 70 senators made just last week in passing overwhelmingly the administration's supplemental request, including 60 billion for Ukraine. So now the question is in the House of Representatives and support for Ukraine across the United States is still strong. So we hope that representatives will reflect that in the way they vote. And it's strong not just because people understand how brave and resilient Ukraine has been, but that this is not just about Ukraine. If we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, he will keep going. And autocrats and tyrants all around the world will take comfort and think that they too can chunk off a piece of their neighbor so i think she read the secret or something like
Starting point is 01:48:51 if i just keep saying that people really are all for it then it'll happen and here is the money shot do you have any actual belief or reason to believe that eventually uh this bill will be paid and if not how are you going to make sure Ukraine gets vital weapons? By the way, I love that Amanpour says that this bill will get paid. What, did they send us an invoice? Are we down to that now? Or just a Venmo QR code? What do they do? Instead of this bill will be passed, she says this bill should be paid. This bill will be paid. And if not, how are you going to make sure Ukraine gets vital weapons and ammunition? Christian, I have strong confidence that when the House comes back after they've been out in their districts, hearing from the American people, after they have heard from Ukraine, they have heard from Europe,
Starting point is 01:49:44 which, by the way, just passed $54 billion in additional aid itself. Yeah, over 10 years. That we will do what we have always done, which is defend democracy and freedom around the world, not just for victims of tyrants like Putin, but in our own interest in preserving a free and open international order. That's what we need to do. We've done it before. And by the way, we have to remember that the bulk of this money is going right back into the U.S. economy to make those weapons, including good paying jobs
Starting point is 01:50:18 in some 40 states across the United States. And there it is. Oops oops so so she's either lying about helping the ukrainians rebuild with their tax base etc or she's lying about it going straight into the military industrial complex which i believe is what it's doing and i think at this point that's the only thing keeping our economy afloat that and ai chips i mean what what else is ai chips but and things are about to get interesting because the biggest soy boy politician is it looks like it's definitely happening mark ruta former your buddy dutch prime minister who i have met who who is a hunk of soy. He ran HR at Unilever. And then all of a sudden he was prime minister.
Starting point is 01:51:14 He's weak. He's wimpy. He's a total yes man. But he talks a big game. For over a decade, he's been a mainstay in European politics. And now Mark Rutte is in pole position to take another leadership role crucial for the continent. The outgoing Dutch Prime Minister has received a number of endorsements to lead the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO. On Thursday, the White House backed Rutte for the job,
Starting point is 01:51:41 as did the UK Foreign Office and a spokesperson for German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. Other messages of support came during the Munich security conference last weekend. And of course, we were partially nostalgic about the past and talking a little bit about the future. And as you will know, he's in the running to become NATO Secretary General. And I personally wish him the the best of luck i'm very excited by him becoming um uh nato uh secretary general because he has the perfect dutch accent for me to make fun of it's coming up uh in that endeavor the next nato secretary general will succeedens Stoltenberg in October. They'll have the challenge of sustaining the alliance's support for Ukraine's costly defence against Russia
Starting point is 01:52:31 and depending on the outcome of the US presidential election, they may have to work closely with Donald Trump, an outspoken NATO critic. In Munich, Ruta said Europe should focus more on Ukraine than on the presidential frontrunner. And we should, because you also mentioned the West, the US, stop moaning and whining and nagging about Trump. And we have to work with whoever is on the dance floor. I love this guy. We have to work with whoever is on the dance floor. Stop moaning and whining and griping about him. By the way, my name is Mark Rutte. The last time
Starting point is 01:53:09 the Dutchman was here was Jaap de Hoop Scheffer. He was really great too. No worries. I take care of it. I'm your HR guy here. Dance with me. Dance with me, Trimpy. This guy, he'll be fun fun he'll almost be good as that no it's great because i love that voice i gotta play that again i just love the end there that
Starting point is 01:53:33 is so good what he said europe should focus more on ukraine than on the presidential front runner and we shoot because you also mentioned the west the u.s stop moaning and whining and nagging about trump and we have to work with whoever is on the dance floor hey whoever's on the dance floor i dance with him come on man i dance with you let's dance let's dance you want to do a little conga line hey trump let's do it i can't wait i can't wait i vote yes i vote yes. Bring him in. Oh, man, he is such a douche. And then the outgoing, I mean, the guy who got kicked out. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:54:18 All that all these European countries, all that they're all just waiting to get the big job in Brussels. That's all they really want. I just want that job in Brussels. As long as I can get that, then I'll be good. Do you know Queen Ursula has never won an actual election for any public office in Germany ever? Well, she was the Minister of Defense and got kicked out. That's why she was then appointed. She didn't even run. She's running now.
Starting point is 01:54:40 She is so annoying that no one will vote for her. Yeah, I know. But she's fine. You can one will vote for her yeah i know but she's fine you can pick her and put her in some now she's queen of the you know the eu not by anyone's wanting her did we play that clip on the last i don't think i had a clip hold on a second uh uh ursula hold on yes here it is this is a little clip of. A history maker and a trailblazer. Ursula von der Leyen became the first woman president of the European Commission in 2019. The trust you placed in me is confidence you placed in Europe.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Her selection came as a surprise to many. Not a former prime minister like many of her predecessors, but a struggling defense minister in the german government of angela merkel fast forward to 2022 and the forbes list calls von der leyen the most powerful woman in the world the most powerful woman in the world and again in 2023 so what got her there her commission proposed the world's most ambitious climate laws, spearheaded the EU's successful COVID vaccine procurement program. Yeah, with with text messages we're not allowed to see. Right. Heavily supported Ukraine and talked tough against China. Those successes haven't won over all of the members of the European Parliament, though, who will have a chance to block her second term.
Starting point is 01:56:06 So, she's running now, and I would not bet against her being re-elected. I would not bet against that. She's not actually being elected by a democratic body. Well, hello! No, it's by the EU Starfleet Command. The douchebags that they're... Yes, it's the Starfleet Command. All appointed. Yes, Starfleet Command. The douchebags that they're... Yes. It's the Starfleet command. All appointed.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Yes. The Starfleet command. For all practical purposes. May I shift for a second here to something else? Just to dance around and pat myself on the back, trying not to break my arm. A rude awakening for tens of thousands of AT&T customers. I woke up this morning, turned on my phone, and no internet. Check my phone.
Starting point is 01:56:43 It's like, what's going on? I don't even... I see an SOS. Now I can't even use my GPS, my music. Call my wife, tell her where I'm going to be. From Chicago to Dallas, Boston to Los Angeles, more than 74,000 users reported widespread problems. So on a personal level, it was definitely confusing and uncomfortable, but it wasn't the end of the world.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Late today, AT&T apologized to customers and said service had been fully restored. Nearly three-quarters of adults live in households without a landline, so losing cell service in a disaster can cripple communications. That was the case in the Maui wildfires. But today's outage inundated emergency call centers with people dialing them up to test their phones. Massachusetts State Police posting that many 911 centers were flooded with calls. And in San Francisco? Please don't call 911 to verify if your phone works if you don't have an emergency.
Starting point is 01:57:38 The FBI is in contact with AT&T and the FCC is actively investigating. The National Security Council says there's no reason to think that this was a cybersecurity incident. Does this incident worry you about the future? I always worry about our dependency on technology. I think it's also a good wake-up call and just a reminder that we can't depend 100% all the time on the technology that we depend on 100% of the time. A total last resort, experts say you can always go in person to your local fire or police department. So now we know that it was indeed a software update. And the biggest complaint was not about loss of internet or loss of income or no no no
Starting point is 01:58:27 what everyone was really mad about is i want some credit for this new attend this evening at&t says it is trying to make things right after this week's nationwide service outage and now in a post to their website tonight the provider apologized for letting customers down and promised a five dollar credit credit impacted accounts and there are thousands of them we are told it will appear on your bill in one to two cycles at&t blaming the hours-long outage on thursday on a technical error that occurred while expanding their network now the fcc and the f FBI right now are still investigating. Yeah, but they copped to it. It was expanding their network, whatever that means.
Starting point is 01:59:11 So I have a very concerning comment about that clip. Yes. Exactly why, would someone explain to me, exactly why do you need phone service for the GPS on your phone to work? And that was elucidated in that particular clip. So I couldn't do anything. I couldn't tell my wife where I was. A GPS wasn't working.
Starting point is 01:59:37 And I've noticed this when you have one of these phones and you lose your service for whatever reason. Why does the GPS go out? It makes no sense. Because it's, well... Because they're tracking you is the reason. Yes, because most phones will give you accurate location based upon cell phone triangulation, tower triangulation. Yeah, of course they're tracking you.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Hello? Surprise. I thought, how would you even know that? You don't take your phone out of your drawer. It's still in your drawer. I am on month 14 of no phone. Yeah. Congratulations.
Starting point is 02:00:14 Here's an observation. Because I talked to a couple people, and there were people very freaked out. There were friends of ours who were on their way to Austin and turned around. It's like, I don't want to go into Austin without cell service. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is not good.
Starting point is 02:00:34 No. And these are successful, smart individuals. The other part is when people saw, because, you know, you didn't have a network, and then it's, what I think happens with these phones is then it says SOS only, which either happens when you have no service or you haven't paid your service. I think, I'm not sure, maybe you can connect to another cell tower
Starting point is 02:00:59 to send a 911 call or to make a 911 call, not so sure. But the user experience of SOS only or SOS freaked people out because they couldn't call. They had no idea why SOS was there other than, oh my God, we're in an SOS situation. They literally did not know what that meant. It's a bad UI. I mean, it's a bad UI choice in hindsight. But yes, there were people who just felt crippled. I had someone come, one of our, someone in church come up to me and say, you know, if it wasn't for you and your show, I would have been completely, I would have melted into oblivion out of fear. Because the cell service didn't work and it said SOS. And remember, they just, everyone just saw that Obama movie,
Starting point is 02:01:49 the Obama-produced movie about the whole system melting down and the Teslas driving by themselves. That part kind of worked, sadly. This may not have been a failure at all. It could have been a test. It could have been this may have not have been a a failure at all it could have been a test could have been a test yeah i'm i'm not going you are not wrong with that john i'm not wrong you're not wrong um meanwhile there is an actual cyber issue across chicagoland this cyber attack impacts certain prescription refills in certain locations the company attack says that they are not taking any shortcuts to fix this problem.
Starting point is 02:02:28 The outage is expected to last through the remainder of the day. Still, there is concern if this outage isn't fixed by the weekend. A cyber attack against one of the country's largest prescription processors enters a third day. Change Healthcare provides prescription processing through Optum, which supplies technology services to thousands of pharmacies. The company was attacked on Wednesday, making certain prescriptions difficult to refill electronically. According to the Wall Street Journal, Optum's parent company, UnitedHealth, suspects a foreign government was behind the attack. Online, the company says they've disconnected Change Healthcare's systems. You sure you weren't just expanding your network?
Starting point is 02:03:06 Oh, yeah, it's a foreign state actor, everybody. How come that's not national news then? That's local. That's Chicago. It should have been covered. And I want to, I'm very curious about your kidfluencers clips. But before we do that, I just wanted to follow up on something we were talking about on the last show about these bogus charities and NGOs
Starting point is 02:03:28 that are getting big money for... That's our exit strategy. It is, and it's quite easy to do. And remember, just because a charity has Catholic in their name doesn't mean... Doesn't mean a thing. No, it could be one hour photo. Doesn't mean you're going to
Starting point is 02:03:44 get your pictures in one hour hour what are some other examples of uh well the classic is one hour cleaners one hour cleaners that's that's the best one one hour it's just the name it's not it's not advertising so now ken paxton our attorney general here in texas is going after one of them backed by dozens of local local elected leaders this week, the El Paso migrant shelter Annunciation House flatly denying claims from the Attorney General that they participated in activities that he deemed illegal, including human smuggling.
Starting point is 02:04:17 The Catholic nonprofit instead claims Mr. Paxton is just trying to shut them down because he personally disagrees that the services they provide to migrants, services many in the border community say are badly needed. December, when we were having about 3,000 asylum seekers coming through, we couldn't have made it without the Annunciation House. We couldn't have made it without the help of the NGOs.
Starting point is 02:04:42 We will not be intimidated in our work to serve Jesus Christ in our sisters and brothers fleeing danger and seeking to keep their families together. Is there no shame to refer to houses of God, houses of hospitality as stash houses. The attorney general also accusing Annunciation House of withholding records, but lawyers for the nonprofit refuted that as well, saying his office only gave them small staff, 24 hours, they're small staff, I should say, 24 hours to produce a massive amount of documents so i love stories like this um this you know so they had some very catholic bishopy looking guy who showed up um i i mean he almost sounded like an actor i i really don't know anything about him but annunciation house they are a non-profit
Starting point is 02:05:41 i went to uh the normal sources to look at their form 1990. Wouldn't you know, they haven't filed one since 2003. The only time they ever filed one. That is fraud right there. You cannot be a non-profit in the United States and not file your form 990. your form 990 certainly not for um 11 years so i think there's this is just maybe the tip of the iceberg maybe they're under some other name and it is filed no no i can't believe they'd go that long without filing any paperwork this is a bonanza john it's a bonanza, John. It's a bonanza. There's so much fraud and waste and abuse. By the way, there's a new term, LPAS.
Starting point is 02:06:33 LPAS is the new term. What does that mean? It's an acronym, LPAS. Dame Beth heard this and sent it to me. Legally processed asylum seeker, LPAS. Look for it. Be on the lookout for the l pass legally processed asylum seeker all right i have a series of clips yes uh this is a special that was done it was actually quite good but some of the big questions weren't asked, which I will ask during the playing of these clips. But the New York Times did a long look at
Starting point is 02:07:11 so-called kid fluencers. And these are children who have accounts that are created by their mothers, and they're just little kids, like 8, 9, 10, 11, 12-year-olds. And there's thousands and thousands of these accounts. And they, well, it's actually a disturbing series of clips. And you'll be more disturbed as you listen to each one. Let's start with clip one. A new investigation looks at the disturbing world of so-called kidfluencers and the moms who run their accounts. One in three preteens say being an influencer is a career goal, but the reality poses serious risks to underage girls. Stephanie Tsai looks at those concerns.
Starting point is 02:07:56 Instagram doesn't allow children younger than 13 to have their own accounts, so what we're seeing is parents of kidfluencers set up and manage these accounts. Posting content of girls can be lucrative. Instagram makes it possible to have paid monthly subscribers. And kids apparel brands will pay thousands of dollars for a single post of a kid modeling, say, their dance leotards. But what might seem like innocent photos to a mom may read differently to a man or a pedophile. New York Times reporter Michael Keller analyzed data from 5,000 of these mom-run accounts as part of a New York Times investigation and joins me now.
Starting point is 02:08:35 Michael, thank you for being here. I mean, the headline of your report really sums up the risk. A marketplace of girl influencers managed by moms and stalked by men whoa i already know where this is going this is a setup this is a setup to legislation there's no doubt about it well there might be but i think they're going to have trouble the uh of course this is also the gouge uh yeah zuckerberg yeah of course yeah. Yeah, he's not putting up enough money to the Republicans. To the Republicans this time. Well, Republicans.
Starting point is 02:09:11 Yeah, the Republicans for sure. The Democrats probably less so. But there's a lot of interesting potential here when you start listening to the numbers. The fact that they found 5,000 of these things that they looked into, which seems excessive, means that's the tip of the iceberg. There's probably 20,000 of these screwball kidfluencers, which is idiotic, if anything ever has been. And you have to wonder what's going on here. Let's go with part two. What did you find about how prolific these accounts are and why so many moms are into this? My colleague, Jennifer Valentino-DeVries, and I wanted to look into this world of child
Starting point is 02:09:54 influencers. And as you said, they often are too young to have accounts of their own. And so they're run by their parents. They got into them for a variety of reasons. There was a range from dancers and gymnasts who wanted to get free or discounted leotards in exchange for photos modeling the apparel. A lot of parents said that social media was the way they could assure a good digital resume for their child's future and maybe even help pay for college or gain opportunities working with sought-after choreographers. On the more extreme end, your spy learning models, some had their own subscriptions, both on Instagram, where they would charge up to $20 a month for more photos or chat sessions with the child,
Starting point is 02:10:49 or on other platforms where the monthly costs went as high as $250. It's only fans for children. Lord Jesus, come quickly. It's only fans for children. And for $250 a month, you can chat with one of these kids. Oh, this is sick. It's totally, this is so sick. And here's one of the things that you listen to this report and you just wonder where the reportage actually is
Starting point is 02:11:15 because these New York Times guys are like some sort of a weenie. And they go on and on and on. Nobody seems to bring up the possibility, even though it has to be apparent, and there's a pun in there. It has to be apparent that there is some mom, single moms, let's say, not to point them out specifically, who are whoring out their kids. This was never discussed before you continue uh my sister willow you know she did her dissertation um on uh social networking social media and she did a lot of study she got a degree online in psychology and masters and she um
Starting point is 02:12:07 she did this or she i don't know if she came across the study did the study herself but she told me that the worst thing that that moms are doing early moms is they are taking pictures while they are with their child like nursing or have their child in their arms and she says it's it's been proven that this is very destructive for the bonding process between mother and child because the mother is not focused on the child. The mother is focused on herself. And this is when this starts. It's really about the moms, I think, or parents. I don't want to single out moms, but I think it's about the parents who are, I mean, this is not good. Well, they only talk about moms here. So you can leave them dads out.
Starting point is 02:12:54 Okay. They probably don't even know about it. Unless you have documentation otherwise. No, I don't. Let's go with clip three. So your report also found that a lot of the followers of these accounts are men. Are they driving these accounts popularity and their profits? So we did an analysis looking at the follower size of these accounts and the percentage of men in that audience and did find a correlation that as the audiences got larger, there were more men in them. Now, some
Starting point is 02:13:26 parents and pretty much all the parents we spoke to said that men following them and posting inappropriately was a really big problem. Some of them said that the first thing they did when they woke up in the morning was block followers. And the last thing they did before they went to bed was block followers. They often post inappropriate or even proposition the girls in the comments below the photos. They do block them, as I said, but a lot of them ran into issues where if they blocked too many, Instagram would start limiting their ability to either follow new accounts or to block even more. One parent said, I can't believe this. I've reached my limit for the day of blocking creepy men. Oh, my God. How about reporting? Had you considered reporting creepy men? Is it just blocking? Can't you report? Now, this seems to me, this reminds me at this point of the problem you get with spam calls and these guys with the bloop. Hello, I'm PG&E.
Starting point is 02:14:30 We get you a 5% discount if you just give us everything you know about yourself. Why doesn't the government, I mean, instead of finding more things to indict Trump about. Elizabeth Warren should be all over this. Yeah, where. Elizabeth Warren should be all over this. Yeah, where's Elizabeth Warren? And tracking these creepy men, as they put it, they have IP addresses. This is all trackable.
Starting point is 02:14:55 Not all, I'm sure. Some maybe go through a VPN. Some of them maybe fool around in some funny way. But this is like, you could stop this. If the government, instead of going after Trump about everything would spend a little time kind of they have no intention of stopping this our lawmakers have no intention they they they believe they need social media they believe they need these companies to post their own idiotic crap about their little little viral moment that they try to do during the so-called debates it's all the internet was a mistake the wife said that forever
Starting point is 02:15:33 so let's go to clip four michael i just want to show our viewers an example of what you're talking about the new york times and your investigation doesn't show the actual post, but you describe what the post showed. A nine-year-old in a golden bikini lounging on a towel, and then you show the comments section full of sexually suggestive remarks. But Michael, it doesn't stop at the comments in every case. You describe a world in which the girls are sucked in to this sort of internet underworld of sexual predation. Right. And that was what was truly disturbing in what we found. Beyond the suggestive or predatory comments, some parents actually received threats from some of the online. They would reach out and accuse them of exploiting their child and
Starting point is 02:16:28 threatening to contact their school or their family and friends and seemingly expose them. Because it is worth noting that in, you know, photos of children in dance conventions are normal within that context. But within the context of the internet, people bring to them, in some cases, their own skewed points of view. And so these men were trying to, seemingly with threats of blackmail, cause a lot of actual harm to the families. But they're making this all about creepy men. How about the creepy moms doing this? Yes. Stop it.
Starting point is 02:17:09 That's like I said, that's the question that was never asked. How many of these moms and how much of this is the moms whoring out their kids? We really need to speak up and speak out about these black holes of evil and wickedness. This is horrible. Flip five. So it occurs to me, Michael, that this is not just an investigation into risks that girls are taking online,
Starting point is 02:17:35 but a story about parents who are making the decision to put their girls at potential risk of ogling at the very least. What is the biggest takeaway for moms who are thinking of letting their daughters become influencers? So as we said, you know, Instagram does allow parents to run these accounts for them even when they're below 13. But what we found was that it is very hard to do so in a safe way, and that it may take hours every day of blocking
Starting point is 02:18:06 creepy or possibly predatory men from interacting with the account. And the real-life threats that this could lead to, maybe we heard stories of strange packages showing up at people's doors and could go from the online world into real life and affect your family was a really strong takeaway for me. It's very disturbing. This is a disturbing report. Do you have a analysis of this? Yeah, I thought it was just scratching the surface. thought it was uh it was just scratching the surface i think they found 5 000 there's probably 20 000 or who knows how many they don't mention anything about what about the 13 year old doesn't need mom and she's decided to become an influencer and how did this influencer thing take off in the first place there's a lot of unanswered questions here creepy or not it's the entire whole thing
Starting point is 02:19:03 this is bad it's the entire business model The whole thing. This is bad. It's the entire business model of Instagram. It is the business model of Instagram. Influencers. Yeah. And there's money and people are dumb and they're not thinking. And the fact that they're just blocking and not reporting, the whole thing is wrong. It's very,
Starting point is 02:19:20 very wrong. And this will all be added to COSA, the kids online safety act. What is. And this will all be added to COSA, the Kids Online Safety Act. What this will result in, with this I guarantee it, will be you cannot be on any of these so-called social media hellholes without verified ID, government ID. That's where it's all going to lead to. Anonymity will be gone, mainly for the creepy dudes. But you will not be able to get an account unless it's verified. The government's going to know.
Starting point is 02:19:54 It's going to end all the cool anonymous so-called free speech we have. This is coming down. And I think this report is a part of it. That is bull crap. Oh, you watch. And I think this report is a bullcrap. There is no way that the smart money can't get around any of these restrictions by creating phony baloney identities elsewhere in other countries using VPNs and free email accounts. I'm not saying it's going to fix it. I'm not saying you misunderstand what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's going to fix it.
Starting point is 02:20:23 It will be required for you to have an Instagram account. As an American, you will be required to go through this process of verification, or Twitter, or Facebook, or any of it. That's what they're doing. That's what they're setting up. It doesn't mean that it'll be effective, but that will be a requirement. Anything over a million users will have that requirement. I'm reading the law. I'm reading the bill and the amendments they're putting in there. It's on its way.
Starting point is 02:20:53 Well, they're fooling themselves. I didn't say it was going to fix it. As long as creepy moms will want to whore out their children, that's never going to stop. Yes. And with that, you can conclude the segment. It's a horrible segment. I'm in desperate need
Starting point is 02:21:11 of a good news segment. After I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in creepy mom's latest gentleman, say hello to my friend
Starting point is 02:21:18 on the other end of the morning, Mr. John C. DeVore. Well, good morning to you, Mr. Andrew Kerr. Also in the morning, all ships to see, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, the dames and the knights out there. And let us take a look at our trolls. Hello, beautiful trolls.
Starting point is 02:21:32 Can you please stop running around so I can count you? There we go. Whoa! Let it go, let it go. They're going out of control. Well, I have good news. I have good news. On the previous Sunday, we had 2,040 trolls.
Starting point is 02:21:45 Today's count, 2,103. So we're up 60. 60 trolls. Checking this out. We're down 300. No, we're not. This is literally, I have the numbers. We are up one, we're up 63 from last Sunday.
Starting point is 02:22:01 Yeah, and that was low. The Sunday number should be 2400. Well, then maybe you shouldn't be playing these creepy mom clips. No, that probably kept them. Creepy mom clips are a winner. CMC, baby. CMCs.
Starting point is 02:22:22 Creepy mom clips. Hey, everybody. This is a Value for Value program, and our trolls check us out all the way through the donation segment. We love having them here. You can join them at trollroom.io or try out one of the modern podcast apps,
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Starting point is 02:22:58 I love my truck and I love what I do. As Value for Value, which we have been doing for the past 16 years, we do not break for commercials. We do not take any creepy money from corporations. We just put everything out there for you to enjoy. You don't have to do anything for us at all, but we do work on your guilty conscience. Because we're putting all this effort and work into providing this value to you. You can do whatever you want with it.
Starting point is 02:23:27 We ask that you return some value from time to time. Could be every single time you listen to the show. Like, that was valuable. I laughed. I learned something. I heard something I hadn't before. You're not dealing here with controlled opportunists who are just trying to get everyone all riled and spun up. No,
Starting point is 02:23:45 we're just trying to break down the media and show you what's going on in this overarching seal of reveal, season of reveal. There we go. So you can do that by sending value back to us, time, talent, or treasure. Time and talent is hard for a lot of people, but some people are good at it. For instance, our No Agenda artists, they like to listen live and they're usually at their day jobs or doing something else and then they just get on the stick and start doodling around
Starting point is 02:24:14 and try and create artwork that we will then choose one for right after we're done and post it. And we want to thank Darren O'Neill who really understood exactly what we're talking about and he did a meta ai ai piece of album art with a robot all ai no doubt a robot even with the hands wrong he had oh yeah the left hand just got the thumb on the wrong side it was great
Starting point is 02:24:41 that was the best part i wonder if that was intentional or if the AI screwed it up. No, the AI just does that. But the whole thing was perfect. It was painting and no agenda, a sign, and it was good. I mean, we looked at it and went, you know. Except for the thumb. Well, but to me, that made it even better. It showed just how creepy and wrong all of this AI is.
Starting point is 02:25:05 It was a meta piece. It was actually being sarcastic about being critical. It wasn't being sarcastic. AI doesn't have that sort of sense. No. That AI was very ironic. No, Darren O'Neill has that sense. He knew how to use it.
Starting point is 02:25:25 Yeah. A lot of people don't. Now, there were other pieces. Darren's got quite good at this, I have to say. At prompt engineering. Yeah, prompt engineering. He's not an artist. He's a prompt engineer.
Starting point is 02:25:40 Yeah. Well, he was actually kind of pretty good as as an artist but he's decided to give it up throw it hell with it and now he's a prompt which is really i'm surprised he doesn't have the ai doing his rock and roll show his pre-show he may be ai for all we know but it could be pretty soon we also like tyler brown you like tyler brown's uh moon Landing with the slate, which I nixed. I'm like, no, it was too simple. Which one was this? It's the movie slate with Roll 33.
Starting point is 02:26:12 Oh, yeah, I did like that piece. I like the Super Duper, which is also from Darren, which you just hated. It had nothing going on whatsoever. It just said Super Duper. That's your opinion. There was no dimensionality. There wasn't any other little gimmick. Yeah, I got it.
Starting point is 02:26:28 It was too small. You vetoed it. It's too small. It's too small. It's huge. We both kind of like comic strip bloggers faked moon landing. Kind of. Yeah, it was cute.
Starting point is 02:26:41 It's a nice patch. Yeah. I use it for the pre-show announcement today. And then, let me see, there was some other stuff. All My Fixes Live in Texas didn't really quite hit home. The chemistry blogger also did the Dr. Phil one next to it, and he's missing a finger. It just didn't even look like... it just you know this is gone we're on the what but iteration five or six of this art and they still can't get the hands right it didn't even look like dr phil didn't look anything like him
Starting point is 02:27:14 no that was just a why is the microphone way up that like that yeah because ai doesn't understand audio it doesn't understand anything. I'm getting sick of AI. Buckle up. Clip Custodian, nice little copy editor, red pencil, but no, it didn't quite have it. I think that was it. I mean, other things. Was there anything else?
Starting point is 02:27:42 No, I think the AI prompt engineers are getting better, though. If they understand, if they have it in their hearts and their souls how to create what a good piece of art should look like, and they know how to create it, it doesn't matter what tool you use, I guess. But you still have to have that funny bone mentality or irony or something. And so, there wasn't anything else. Honeybone mentality or irony or something. So, there wasn't anything else. Is there anything else you wanted to comment on?
Starting point is 02:28:11 No. Well, thank you very much, Darren. Darren O'Neill. I mean, his taste in music is questionable. More Taylor Swift. As you always say. But this was a dynamite piece. We really appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:28:28 Thank you very much. And thank you to all the artists for participating in this grand experiment. We try out every single show twice a week, no agenda, art generator.com. Thank you, sir. Paul couture for setting that up and maintaining that for us. We love the new,
Starting point is 02:28:40 the new style, the new look you can, if you're listening live, you can go there and you can check it out in real time, just refresh, see what's going on. Or if you use one of those modern podcast apps, you'll see many more of these art pieces as Dreb Scott uses most of them for the chapters,
Starting point is 02:28:55 which are, of course, only available on modern podcast apps. Now let us thank the treasure portion, which means we have executive and associate executive producers who help us out and get not only kudos for helping us at this level, but also receive an executive producer or associate
Starting point is 02:29:14 executive producer credit. I'm going to be a nice guy today. I'm going to let you do the first one, and I'll take that huge one that comes right after it. This is another one after that. Okay, well, this one is $1,000, and this is kind of an anomalous donation because i went back and forth like 1100 to me not 1100 yeah uh i went back and forth with uh uh czar czarin densel because i got a note from his brother oh and his brother says you can't use name. My brother just donated a bunch of money and he's going to give me the donation.
Starting point is 02:29:48 And I don't like your show. You suck. And I don't want my name mentioned. He didn't say that. He never heard the show. Exactly. And so I sent that note to Zarin. I said, what is this?
Starting point is 02:30:01 And he sent me a note back saying, I don't know. He's never listened to the show. I have no idea why he's getting all bent out of shape. But I never got the original note that was crediting anybody. So I've got no real note from Zarn. And if he has something he wants to tell us later, I will be amenable to running it as a make good. But there's something missing here.
Starting point is 02:30:23 And it's not the back and forth that I did with him, his brother. Didn't Zarn donate on the previous show? Isn't that where it came from? I thought that's where the problem stemmed from. Well, whatever. We got $1,100 from him here, and we want to give him a double up karma, and we'll look for something in the future.
Starting point is 02:30:43 Yes, and the funny thing about the whole bit is that they heard about the no agenda show in europe on a train from some random woman yes some woman in switzerland there you go on a train was promoting the no agenda show and they were there i guess oh okay i'll check it out and zarn checked it out and his brother i guess is just a contrarian why would i take the advice of some woman on the train out of the dot into nowhere now i'm not listening all right here's the double up karma for you thank you zarin you've got karma uh then we move to uh vincent visconti from Lantana, Texas, and send us a very long note. Well, you're lucky because a lot of it doesn't need to be read, seems to me. Let me see how we do.
Starting point is 02:31:35 Hello, gents. Excuse me. And all of Gitmo Nation. I'm very behind on shows, but I'm trying to catch up. Since coming out of the COVID craze in 2021, I have never in my life been so freaking busy. As I was reading the newsletter last night, I came to the heart-wrenching realization that it has been way too long
Starting point is 02:31:52 since making a producer-level contribution to the show. Thankfully, having set up a monthly contribution, I only feel slightly douchebaggish. Nonetheless, still a douchebag, please de-douche. You've been de-doucheduced and then he asked for essentially a switcheroo he says please give credit for this executive producership to my smoking hot wife Sinead in light of our recent anniversary and her upcoming birthday it's a two for one and she always appreciates a bargain and our anniversary is on February 2nd which I recently
Starting point is 02:32:22 discovered falls on the 33rd day of the year. Furthermore, it is 333 days from the end of the year on a leap year. Credit to my desktop calendar. This was not intentional, but certainly destiny. And, excuse me, I need a lozenge. Also, please give our beautiful human resource. I'm going to try pronouncing it backwards. Forget it. resource uh a o a o if i'm gonna try pronouncing it backwards if i o r if forget it a o f a o f i'm gonna say a o f a happy i'm sorry kid i can't pronounce your name good luck good luck in life
Starting point is 02:32:58 why didn't you just give us a pronunciation guide why be so mean bro a happy 13th birthday shout out she's been a fan of the show since she was nine years old and is growing up with a shrunken amygdala. She's a good kid. We need to know how to pronounce her name. Yeah, we definitely want to know how to pronounce her name. That's kind of mean. Lastly, we can get some new business
Starting point is 02:33:18 house selling and moving to Tennessee, Karma, and our family favorite jingle, the train foamer guy. Sure, keep up the great work seriously don't stop or the world very might well end sorry for the long note i would have been a shorter note had i had more time yeah all right oh my god listen to that horn you've got karma okay Sinead changing to Sinead so now we have the
Starting point is 02:33:50 if I can move this thing over this is going to take a second to get cleaned up this is come on come on I can read every okay Jake Jake in God's Country comes in with a... It will click up.
Starting point is 02:34:10 I can't... There are three, three, three. Three, three, three. Okay. And I can actually barely read this note, but I can, turns out, if I click on this thing. Oh, my goodness. Just do it already. You know, it's not as easy when the thing blows out the spreadsheet this
Starting point is 02:34:26 is longer than the other note millennial producer here and it's been far too long since i've chipped in and he got 33 all over the place i'll skip through that i'm in a private investing industry allocating dollars for ultra high net worth families and institutions to purchase equity positions in privately held companies. In my travels, I deal with a spectrum of thoughts and ideologies. But one thing I'm struggling to get behind is the thesis of handing former President Trump the ticking time bomb. As you both are more likely aware, the Biden administration is doing almost everything to prop up Uncle Bernie for another weekend or two. It's not talking about Bernie Sanders.
Starting point is 02:35:07 No. The record oil production, which people don't want to discuss. Uncapped debt ceiling, which people don't want to discuss. Phony jobs and inflation data, which we discuss. Does not sound like a team ready to wave the white flag. My prediction, not to be heated as financial advice is as follows. I thought this would be good to read. And of course, he puts the disclaimer in there because you can't really take this advice as financial advice. You need to go to an expert, your personal expert.
Starting point is 02:35:36 Government continues to spend like drunken sailors throughout the year. It will lead to persistent inflation from 3% to 5%, forcing no Fed cuts in 2024. I'm down with that. The S&P 500. What? I'm down. I agree. I don't think there's going to be any cuts.
Starting point is 02:35:52 They might raise it. They're never going to raise it. Not in an election year. Never happen. S&P 500 all-time high will continue throughout 2024. I think there will be a cut. NVIDIA is a house of cards. Yeah, I'm all in on that.
Starting point is 02:36:09 Yeah, we don't know what the top is. Hey, you shorted it on your game. I heard you. I may have. I probably lost my ass in the process. I bet you did. The next refinancing wave will trigger the next issue. in the process.
Starting point is 02:36:21 I bet you did. The next refinancing wave will trigger the next issue. 2025, when mass refinancing will occur in a low to negative growth environment mixed with higher rates will show many emperors wearing no clothes.
Starting point is 02:36:33 Finally, if you can, buy private businesses or find the means to allocate so. Don't put your hard-earned dollars into the whims of Wall Street. In other news, I would be around, I would be around. I should be around.
Starting point is 02:36:46 Knighthood next donation should do it. You'll hear from me soon. You guys are great. Have not missed an episode since Greta was transposed as Wednesday Adams on the album. Our worth. Well, yeah. Jingles. Don't trust China.
Starting point is 02:37:00 Anything. Reverend Al. All right. Thank you very much. Donald Trump. Don't trust China. China is asshole. But resist. We much. We must. trust china anything reverend al all right thank you very much donald trump don't trust china china is asshole but resist we much we must they're all jitty about a shutdown the tortise in the race
Starting point is 02:37:15 then co-author of hubris you two lead singer bono fran drasher Siganoi, Weaver, Suspect, Jahar, Sunaev, Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh, Rush Limbaugh, the show Rush Lombard hosts Supreme Court Justice Sonia Satamaya. You've got karma. Adam Ruiz is planning on moving back to the U.S. after living in China for the last five years. And he comes in with $333. We appreciate that. He says, I need some jobs, Karma, for my smoking hot wife.
Starting point is 02:37:53 I also turned 33 a few months ago, so I thought it would be appropriate to donate $333. Thank you, Adam and John. Well, we are very happy, and we appreciate your support. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You thought.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Karma. You don't want to put Adam Ruiz on the birthday list. Kimberly Cram. I'll add him there. He doesn't ask for it, but he deserves it. Kimberly Cram in Fort Myers, Florida. It's 23611. She's the first associate executive producer.
Starting point is 02:38:24 Has no note that I can find. So I want to give her a double up, Florida. It's 23611. She's the first associate executive producer. Has no note that I can find. So I'm going to give her a double up, Karma. You've got Karma. And then we have Sir Oma with two, this is our second associate executive producer, 228.24,
Starting point is 02:38:41 ITM Gents, requesting some prayers. You bet. Health, Karma, and a heavy dose of F-cancer for my brother-in-law. He has a rare form of cancer in his abdomen and will have four lumps removed on February 28th, 24. We'll put him on the prayer chain. He's strong and a fighter, but has a long road to recovery and treatment. Cheers and blessings, Sir Oma, you bet. You've got karma. and treatment, cheers, and blessings, sir. Oh, my, you bet. Fucking get it, sir. Fucking get it, sir. Fucking get it, sir. You've got karma.
Starting point is 02:39:13 I'm going to skip this next one, which you'll read, and then I'll go to Linda Lupatkin in Lakewood, Colorado, because she wants me to read her Jobs Karma for $200, and this comment. For a competitive edge, go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs. That's ImageMakersInc.com or just find Linda Lupatkin,
Starting point is 02:39:34 Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes on the producer list. Yes. And we have the Indy No Agenda Tribal Meetup, Greenwood, Indiana, 225. And it's a switcheroo. ITM Adam and John Nadur from Indianapolis as the winner once again of our raffle.
Starting point is 02:39:53 I am once again asking for it to be a switcheroo to my mom, Stephanie, to get her close to Damehood. Keep up the work, guys. It's great work. Jingles, John's haunted donate and a goat karma. Donate. Donate. work uh jingles john's haunted donate and a goat karma donate donate donate you've got karma and uh i think i forgot uh lindsay patkins jobs karma jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. There you go. That wraps up our...
Starting point is 02:40:29 No, it doesn't. That doesn't wrap up our executive and associate executive? No, no, you're right. Kara Spangler. You're right. In Mount Pleasant, Pennsylvania. Comes in with 200 bucks. You're right.
Starting point is 02:40:38 You're right. And she says, ITM, some millennial karma, and then I got ants. Thank you for your courage, Kara. All right. Well, that'll be our last one then. A little bit of ants for you and millennial karma.
Starting point is 02:40:54 I got ants. I got ants. You thought karma. You've got karma. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I have a feeling. Is there an actual millennial karma jingle? I want to make sure I did the right one.
Starting point is 02:41:16 Is there? Am I millennial karma? Yes, yes, I was right. I think there is millennial karma. Yes, yes, I was right. I think there is millennial karma. Yes, here it is. There it is. Oh, God. I'm just telling you what it is.
Starting point is 02:41:35 Millennial karma. There you go. That's it. Our executive and associate executive producers was quite short list today. In fact, we're going to hit the 50s incredibly quickly. For those who did support us with your treasure, thank you so much. We appreciate it. I wish everybody would do this from time to time. It would really help keep the show rolling here.
Starting point is 02:41:56 These are real credits, these executive and associate executive producer credits for episode 1637. You can use them anywhere that credits are recognized, which is LinkedIn, your resume, and of course, imdb.com, where there are over a thousand people now with these credits. So thank you very much. And John will take us through to the 50s now. Yeah, we're going to start with Diane Clinton in Chappaqua. Chappaqua? Is that right?
Starting point is 02:42:21 Chappaqua. Chappaqua. That's right. Chappaqua, New York. 104. She also gave us a card with a note referring to Pchenik and his Cala Pigeon wife. Really? Not absolutely sure why, but she also says thanks for the plug for her pod. What is her pod?
Starting point is 02:42:43 Well, we plugged it. Oh, we plugged it. Not today today we plugged it at some point I don't know what it is because she didn't mention it in the card Kevin McLaughlin is right there Conker, North Carolina the Archduke of Luna 8008 1637
Starting point is 02:43:01 boob not sure what that means but Gary Blatt's next from Wayne, Pennsylvania, 7777. Matthew Elwart in Weatherford, Texas, 6006. Kurt Lebowski in Ramsey, New York,
Starting point is 02:43:18 5904. Peter Chong in Lakewood, Washington. Hold on, hold on. Kurt has a birthday donation. He says, the longer I live, the more you get, 56 on a show day. And he added in the fees. We appreciatewood, Washington. Kurt has a birthday donation. He says, the longer I live, the more you get. 56 on a show day. And he added in the fees. We appreciate that, Kurt. Peter Chong in Lakewood, Washington, 5809.
Starting point is 02:43:34 Dame Nancy, San Bruno, California, 5529. Surprise night. UConn, Oklahoma, 54-44. And we're already with this very short list today. Very short. Ludicrously short. Lack of support, I'd say. These are the 50s. Alexa Delgado in Aptos, California.
Starting point is 02:43:58 Clara Paravelle in San Rafael. Gaucho Woodworking in Redondo Beach, California. Look them up on the internets. James Farrell in Haverhill, Massachusetts. Michael Romano in Sebastopol, California. Brian Hummel in Wimberley, Texas. Samuel Conarday in North Riverside, Illinois. Charles Boyd in San Marcos, Texas. Fail Line Farm in Columbus, Georgia. Amy Grohl in Burien, Washington by the airport. John Walter in Wenatchee, Washington. And a bunch of Washingtonians at the end here.
Starting point is 02:44:32 And also Baroness Knight, Baroness Dame Knight in Edmonds, Washington. I want to thank these people, even though there are not too many of them today, for making the show 1637 a reality. And we thank everyone who came in under $50. We don't mention those. People like it because it's anonymous. And, of course, we love the $49.99. Thank you if you're on one of your sustaining donations,
Starting point is 02:44:56 which means you can make up any recurring donation that you want to and just continue to go on a night-ordained layaway plan. It happens all the time that people reach that level. And you always support the show, certainly in these slower donation times. And once again, thank you to our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1637. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order!
Starting point is 02:45:31 Order! Shut up, slaves! Shut up! And you can become a producer at Nowhugendondonations.com It's your birthday, birthday On Nowhugendonations Well, a very short list today. We have Kurt Lebowski, It's your birthday, birthday. I don't know what you've done. Well, a very short list today. We have Kurt Lebowski, who turns 56 today.
Starting point is 02:45:52 Vincent Visconti wishes his daughter Aofi a happy birthday. She's 13. Please let me know how to pronounce her name so we can make good fun on the next show. And happy belated birthday to Adam Ruiz. And congratulations to all of you. From everybody here at The Best Podcast, it's your birthday, yeah. we can make good fun of the next show and happy belated birthday to adam ruiz and congratulations to all of you from everybody here's the best podcast something sounds weird all of a sudden what's happened are you here does it sound weird to you does something change that one over modulated yeah i don't know why this happened earlier in the show. Just out of the blue. Yeah, that's very odd. Strange.
Starting point is 02:46:25 Something's going on. You're losing a capacitor in that pod thing. I hope not. I hope not. That was very strange. Let me see. Oh. Now I see what the problem was.
Starting point is 02:46:40 Somehow the processing got turned off. Yeah, that'll do it. Okay. All right. That should fix it now. Let me see. Yeah, that'll do it. Okay. All right. That should fix it now. Let me see. Oh, we have no nightings, no title changes, just another plea. Noagendadonations.com.
Starting point is 02:46:53 Please support the show. No agenda. Beat up. I like the troll rooms. The troll room said it was either a glitch, a cyber attack. The spook spliced into the audio stream. Yeah, I think it was all of the above. Hey, Jesse Coy Nelson came back with a dynamite meetup report from the Singapore meetup.
Starting point is 02:47:25 Hey, it's the Singapore No Agenda Geo Jigsaw meetup. This is Senator Geo Jigsaw. We're all having fun here, getting blasted. Listener Chris, listener since 2009, proud member of the Deuces Club. It's probably time I donate again. Thanks so much for coming to Singapore. It's nice to have the first meet-up here. This is Andy.
Starting point is 02:47:50 Oh, shit. I shouldn't have given my last name. Are there any more people in Singapore that listens to this? Let us know. Let us know, please. This is Anthony Fauci. I came to this meet-up because I want to see how things are going in Asia with my shots.
Starting point is 02:48:06 In the morning. At night. You must say goodbye to me. Hey, there were people there. Hello, Singapore. We need some donations from Singapore. There are people living out there. We got Stripe now, so you can use that.
Starting point is 02:48:25 Speaking of Anthony Fauci, we had dinner with a couple people last night. I love my Fredericksburg people. The latest that I heard, did you know that Mother Teresa, that Anthony Fauci is actually the child of Mother Teresa and Mother Teresa is a dude?
Starting point is 02:48:43 But you didn't know that, did you? Well, you know, looking at Mother Teresa, I can kind of believe the last thing. But then again, how could Anthony Fauci be the son of Mother Teresa if she's a dude? Mother Teresa fathered Anthony Fauci. And it goes much deeper than that. You moved to the right place. I'm telling you, I love this place it's fantastic i also love the guardians of reality they had a meetup in florence kentucky that's florence y'all uh jen of the woodland shire reported and she says that
Starting point is 02:49:17 it was great they had many members of the shrunken amygdala trey leah greg newcomer mitchell um and uh let's see topics of discussion birthing stories breastfeeding doulas oh my god trust policy for wills carpentry needs on fixed income resources connections solutions bitcoin tax law for small business religion specifically cath catholic and orthodoxy books and authors i mean this, this is exactly, they didn't make a report, obviously, but this is exactly the kind of stuff you can get into at a No Agenda meetup. And the great thing is, it doesn't matter where you're coming from, what angle you're coming
Starting point is 02:49:54 from, everybody loves each other. It's a great place to get connection as you know that, what are you eating? Are you drinking? I'm not eating anything. Are you drinking something? Did you crack a can? You did, didn't you? What did you do?
Starting point is 02:50:09 What is it? What did you get? I got the Pellegrino. Ah, there it is. Now, let me tell you what this is. Uh-huh. It's Pellegrino tangerine and wild strawberry essencia. Mmm, yum.
Starting point is 02:50:24 And it tastes, you know what it tastes like? Like poop. It tastes like nothing. It tastes like plain, unflavored mineral water. Well, that's interesting because, and I always open my show beer, you never call me on it, but I am drinking a Waterloo Blackberry Lemonade,
Starting point is 02:50:41 and it tastes just like your thing. There's no taste to this. Really? You think you'd have blackberry? No, it tastes just like your thing. There's no taste to this. Really? You think you'd have blackberry? No, it tastes like mineral water. Which is a very strong flavored berry. It tastes like mineral water. It really does.
Starting point is 02:50:54 It's like they forgot to put it in. They're just packing mineral water and putting bony baloney labels on everything. You're probably right. Hey, noagendameetups.com. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days. Oh, I forgot some here.
Starting point is 02:51:11 You want to be where you won't be. Drink it or hell to blame. You want to be where everybody feels the same. I forgot to mention the meetups taking place on Thursday, which is the North Georgia Monthly Meetup. That'll be at 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.
Starting point is 02:51:29 And also on Thursday, the Denver Leap Year Day Meetup, 630 Bar 404 in Denver, Colorado. There's a whole lot for March, April. You definitely need to go to one of these. There's no regretting going to a No Agenda Meetup. Prove me wrong. Noagendameetups.ups.com and now once again good news everybody we'd like to end our show particularly where we had creepy moms. What about the ISOs? Uh I'm you know what I'm completely uh off track here. You're right. Yes. Okay but you know instead of saying when you're in your ISOs you could say. What about the ISOs? You could have said hey you
Starting point is 02:52:17 forgot the ISOs. Hey I forgot the ISOs. Oh thanks. Well here's my ISO. Pull my lever. That's my only ISO. That's probably why. Okay. What do you have ISO-wise, John? Sounds like you got some really good ones. I have three. Okay. Dynamite. Dynamite!
Starting point is 02:52:39 That's pretty good. That's pretty good. You've heard that one before. Yeah, yeah. I like it. Okay, how about hashtag? Hashtag no agenda. Nah agenda no no it's too much okay thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you no i think dynamite dynamite dynamite is the one that really yes i like
Starting point is 02:52:56 dynamite you don't like dynamite no i mean i didn't dislike it but i thought you'd pick the thank you one. No! I have a betting pool on what you pick. For money? I lost. Who is in the pool? Who are these nutjobs? I can't, they won't, they don't want their names revealed. Is it the Lib Joes? The Lib Joes are listening? Yeah, Lib Joes. Those guys have stopped
Starting point is 02:53:20 talking to me. Good news, good news, good news, good news, good news. Alright, good news. Good news. Good, good news. Good news. All right. Good news. Good news. Here we go.
Starting point is 02:53:28 I'm sorry I jumped the gun on you. It's just ever since that glitch, I was confused. Another. Yes, the glitch. The glitch. Which makes me wonder if you're AI. Uh-huh. Brr, brr, brr, brr, brr.
Starting point is 02:53:41 This is another, not the same, but a different. This is a dog rescue story from your neck of the woods. Texas? Texas? Texas. Puppy Love this morning on Good Morning El Paso. We introduce you to a mother and her litter of pups that would not have lived for us to tell this story if it weren't for a good Samaritan. Got a call from a young lady that works for Border Patrol out there and said
Starting point is 02:54:07 that people are always dumping animals out there. And this is the second mama that they took pictures of and sent to me and asked if I could help because she was about ready to pop. I mean, she was so huge from having so many puppies. Nine puppies to be exact. And they are cuties. But mama was in such bad shape from being neglected and going without food and water for so long. She had complications giving birth. She had to have a c-section so now to help her recover and to give her babies the best chance at a healthy start there those babies are now bottle fed every few hours. This is truly a happy ending because she definitely wouldn't have made it out there in the desert, in the dirt.
Starting point is 02:54:47 And the puppies wouldn't have made it either. They, you know, there's a lot of coyotes and things going on. So they would have probably, she might have been able to save one or two. She's going to go to a forever home. And to know that her babies are well taken care of, I think we did good. I think they all did good. Thanks to Animal Rescue League, these little guys can now be adopted. And by the way,
Starting point is 02:55:07 there's another mama dog she mentioned at the beginning of that piece who was saved with a very similar story. So double the puppies if you're looking to adopt a furry family member of your own. Because a lot of people do want a puppy, and there's nothing wrong with wanting a puppy, and now there are plenty to choose from. And who can say no to those adorable faces,
Starting point is 02:55:23 right? I will say, I have four dogs at home trying to rescue two cats everyone can just take in another dog no no not everyone can just take in another dog but john a great good news story i feel i feel very positive now I got good news. I got good news. I got good news. I got good news. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Everybody should feel good after that. How could you not? It's just good news. Nine puppies rescued. It's just good. It's just all good. I'm ready now. I'm ready to complete my Sunday with a feeling of good news. It really counterbalances the creepy moms vetoing those stories.
Starting point is 02:56:14 Can't do that anymore. We have some end of show mixes. We got the Clipper Stodian, Neil Jones himself kicking it off, followed by Professor Jay Jones from China and Phantomville, all brand new, all fresh, all the time. And after this program ends, you will be seamlessly switched over to Behind
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Starting point is 02:56:53 I would like to say I'm Adam Curry. In the morning. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're still wishing you a happy Chinese New Year, I'm John C. DeVore. We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Please join us. Remember,
Starting point is 02:57:06 it's at noagendadonations.com. Till then, adios, mofos. Ahui, hui, and such. I love what I do.
Starting point is 02:57:17 They call them dumps. Big, massive dumps. We will follow them to the gates of hell. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. And bomb them again. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. Bomb them. Hillary Clinton made a mistake. It's a red carpet event. Beautiful, blonde haired, very fashionable clothes.
Starting point is 02:57:51 Well, she forgot that people hate her guts. Who could be more evil than Putin? Hillary Clinton, how dare you speak about human rights while Palestinians are being murdered? People are suffering. People are dying. You are a war criminal. How dare you? There's a genocide committed.
Starting point is 02:58:11 You have shamed of yourself. It is not shameful to do little. It is shameful to do nothing. Maybe Clinton, killer Clinton, they should do something. They need to work on that. More of this, please. You have supported the force in Afghanistan, in Iraq, all over the Middle East. How does Libya fit into the scheme of things based on what she just said? What difference at this point does it make?
Starting point is 02:58:36 This thing looks so rigged. And I'm all for this. Keep yelling at all of them. How dare you continue to look away? She's great. She's recognizable. Free Palestine! You have blood on your hands! Boom! Yell at all of them. All the elites of the world, including those who are in the war business.
Starting point is 02:58:58 Get Ben Curry. There you go. Get Ben Curry. Get Ben Curry. How dare you? You are a war criminal! More of this, please. Boom! You're a war criminal! The Cinema for Peace Foundation.
Starting point is 02:59:17 Hillary Clinton, how dare you speak about human rights while Palestinians are being murdered? There it is. It was not long ago... You're a war criminal. But it's all coming back to me. If you want me like this... And a warning from Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk. It has nothing to do with cars.
Starting point is 02:59:38 Ted Musk warns about artificial intelligence, which he has called more dangerous than nuclear weapons. Computer. Computer. Computer. Working. Working. With artificial intelligence, we are sending a demon. Computer.
Starting point is 02:59:53 You know those stories where there's the guy with the pentagram and the holy water, and he's like, Working. Working. Yeah, you sure you can control a demon? My function is to control a demon? Computer. Working. Working.
Starting point is 03:00:12 This whole thing's incredible. Working. Working. A machine like that, who would build it? Computer. Computer. An alien race, probably from another galaxy. Working.
Starting point is 03:00:22 Working. Working. But. Working. But why? Computer. You ever hear of a doomsday machine? Working. Working. Working. Working.
Starting point is 03:00:35 Working. Working. Are you concerned that our new woke AI overrides our rewriting history and may even wind up rewriting reality? They're lapping up this AI bull crap. Your enemy is big tech. We're in a summit. They're amazing companies. They account for over half of the gains in the stock market.
Starting point is 03:01:06 So we're all getting rich off these companies. These folks at Google and other of the technology companies are kind of distorting that history. They see themselves as trying to shape society. We've got to get rid of this. We're king. is trying to shape society. Gotta get rid of the fun. It's like a game. The best podcast in the universe. Devorac.org slash N-A
Starting point is 03:01:39 Dynamite!

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