No Agenda - 1751 - "Talking Toilet"

Episode Date: March 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I can't do Jack. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, March 30th, 2025. This is your warden in Get My Nation Media Assassination, episode 1751. This is No Agenda. Feeling Faffy and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill country here in FEMA region number seven, or six. Good morning, everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're watching Canada, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Starting point is 00:00:28 It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. So this morning, one of our church ladies comes up to me and says, Adam, Adam, I have a question for you. What's that? Why do you always say FEMA Region Number 6? And I realized, there's a lot of people, and I, for some reason that was in my head and I said FEMA region number seven, just a
Starting point is 00:00:49 minute ago, I don't know what I was thinking. And I realized that goes back to the Obama days. Yeah. Yeah. I had to explain it. People don't know what we're talking about. I think a lot of people don't know what we're talking about. That's what I told her.
Starting point is 00:01:02 In general. Most of the stuff you probably don't realize what we're talking about. That's what I told her. In general. Most of the stuff, you probably don't realize what we're talking about. Exactly. No, we just take stuff for granted. We do take stuff for granted. Hey, I had a dinner the other night. I had a dinner, which was rather interesting, this dinner. Well, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:01:18 You wouldn't brought it up. Well, you're always asking me after the show, got any dinners? I am. You got any dinners coming up? Yeah, something interesting. Get me out of the house. We need some dinner stories. This was a good dinner. The international arms dealer was there.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Oh, yes. He didn't really have anything new, although the entire fleet of African C-130s is now being outfitted with glass cockpits. But also there was the new CIO of the Department of Energy who used to be on some kind of secret doge team. At the dinner at your house? No, it wasn't at our house. It was at one of our friend's.
Starting point is 00:02:01 It was like a 20 people dinner. We do these dinners. No, it was a big dinner. It's a hill country get together. Oh, a gathering. Yeah, and this is, we'd never been to these people's home before. A nice house, big house, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Like big house. Big house, yeah, Texas style. One of those Texas, hill country mansion houses. And so the CIO, he shuttles between his home here and Washington, D.C. He comes back for the weekends. Now he's given up. I think he's taken a 300% salary cut or something, but he's a patriot. And that's why he's doing it. And so he's now the CIO of the Department of Energy.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And he says, this place is crazy. I said, what do they do with Department of Energy? So, well, that's a good question. So you know, the Department of Energy owns area 51. You could have grilled them on that. I didn't know that you should have prepped me. I've told you, I mentioned on the show before, I had visited Nellis and gotten in,
Starting point is 00:03:02 in Vegas and I got in the tour of the place and got some training and I got to sit in on some training it wasn't for me. Were you flying a saucer? Here hold on to this stick. And the guy mentions, he says, he just has one of these curiosities, you know, we've got nothing to do with Area 51, it's owned by the Department of Energy. I always thought that was interesting. Well, good, because now I have something to ask him next time we have a Hill Country dinner. Yes. And I said, what do you guys do? He said, well, that's a good question. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:03:37 That's a good question. Excellent question. He was telling me about, you know, because he has a badge, he's got a badge. And so he shows up with his badge and they get- What do you mean he shows up with his badge, he's got a badge. And so he shows up with his badge and they get, I mean he shows up with his badge. He's wearing a badge on his jacket. What's it? What do you mean? Well, that's what I said. I said, I mean, well, your badge to get into the building. He has a badge. He's got a badge.
Starting point is 00:03:54 To get into the house for the, No, no. In the department of energy, you fool. Of course not. So he's wearing one of these, wearing one of those badges around his neck or something. Does he know that he's not in Washington or what? No, I'm saying when he goes there, he was relating a story to me. Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood. Clearly.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So he has his badge and he goes to the front entrance and he gets two guys to escort him. He says, what is this about? He said, oh, oh no, sir, you with that badge, you're the equivalent of a two-star admiral here, which sounds impressive. And so he goes on the team. They have the badge on it. No, no, no, no, no. It's like a little picture snapshot. He says they, what they mainly do is they run 12 labs. Labs.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Like, what do you mean labs? Well, all the labs. What these labs do? Mainly military stuff. And it's very unclear what these 12 labs do. They do stuff that has to do with energy. They do stuff. Stuff, stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Stuff, stuff. Yes. He says mainly military. And he says there was some, oh no, I forgot the name of it. There was some organization, some council inside the Department of Energy, which I guess is gone now. And they could, they were made up of military contracting companies and they could determine what stuff the labs would work on. This is a sweet deal these guys had going on over there. So he said, well, we got in one week, $380 million in savings, just chop some stuff out. There wasn't, he says, we'll see what happens in week two.
Starting point is 00:05:42 It was unbelievable. But the cool thing about that was just one of the minor brushes with greatness that I had. So this home where we were at, I had not met these people. Well, yeah, I knew them from church. By the way, these are all church people. These are the people. Oh, they're all churchies.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Oh, they're all churchies. Oh yeah. No, this is my people, my spiritual family, John. And so they moved from Houston and it's a nice house. You walk up to the house and the house goes, you are now being recorded. Hi, welcome. What? It does? Yeah. You walk up to the house. Actually, it's the other way around. You're being recorded. Welcome. No, hi, you're being recorded.
Starting point is 00:06:25 So anyway, I said cameras all over the place. Oh yeah. Yeah. I say, so, Hey man, what do you do? He says, uh, Oh, I sell a data centers. Oh, Oh, so who do you sell them to? The hyperscalers. Oh, I got some questions for you.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And, um, and he has a free email account. That guy, the hyperscalers are the AI, the AI companies. That's a, that's really who the hyperscalers are. So he, his company builds data centers to sell them to all the AI companies. And he was very open with me, what's going on and why it comes at the end. So I say, Hey, is it true? Because I heard about it and then CNBC, they were saying it wasn't true. Is it did micro is Microsoft canceling contract?
Starting point is 00:07:13 He says, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Plenty of companies are canceling contracts. Okay. I said, well, what is the problem? He said, well, there's, you know, there's a little bit of a downturn in the expectation of what they'll actually need for AI data centers. And he says, the biggest thing is now that
Starting point is 00:07:31 the training of the models turns out might be a lot cheaper based upon the deep seeks. See, all this got down. Yeah, the Chinese, that's what my son tells me. The Chinese thing has changed the way people are looking at this. Well, it gets worse or better in my case. So, having your data center out somewhere, like at the oil barons former ranch that he sold for $15 million, it was worth three just because
Starting point is 00:07:55 he had a transformer there and there's no one around. And I told him he'll be able to buy that ranch back for pennies on the dollar. It's going to come true. He says the big problem is the training, it's fine. You don't need to be anywhere. You can just be out in the middle of nowhere for training models. But now that that seems to be slowing down or the expectations are much more limited, he says now people need inference. Are you familiar with this term inference? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Inference is a thing called an inference engine. Yeah, so that means when you need to query the system in real time, it's no good. It can't have latency. It can't be too far away. You need huge data pipes. And he says you can't do that with a Starlink satellite. It was fine for training the data, but now when you got to ship that data to end users he says they're all in the wrong place. And I'm like okay so... How much delay what what what amount of delay is acceptable? I use these things if I have to wait
Starting point is 00:08:59 five extra seconds I don't care. Hey are you going to argue with the guy who's living in the big house from this stuff or you can argue? with the guy who's living in the big house from this stuff or are you going to argue with me? No, the guy with the big house always wins. Always wins. Don't argue with me. You're being recorded. He says the good news is a lot of Bitcoin
Starting point is 00:09:15 miners are stepping up and they're taking over those data centers because we have liquid cooling. And so I'm like, man, you know, do you care? He says, oh no, not really. Why not? Well, we got bought out by KKR and BlackRock a while ago. So everybody already got their money. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:09:33 They can blow that up at any time. They don't care. We don't care. Everybody got paid. Look at my house. Nobody cares. Have you seen my house? Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Have you seen my house? Nobody cares. Nobody cares. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking there's trouble on the horizon. Nobody cares. Have you seen my house? He says, nobody cares. Nobody cares. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking there's trouble on the horizon. I said, well, how about quantum? Yeah, he almost choked in his wine. Quantum.
Starting point is 00:09:55 It's quantum. Oh no, oh no. Well, anybody who's anybody knows it's, what's what. Yeah, well, and so, you know, you can take that to DH Unplugged maybe, give your, give your fans over there some, uh, some inside Intel. Well, it's not a stock pick. The, what's used to do is- Well, the hyperscale, the hyperscalers are a big stock pick. They're not, they're bought by BlackRock and-
Starting point is 00:10:23 No, but he's, he's not the hyperscaler. He sells to the hyperscalers. So, yeah, but is he a public company? No, no, but the point, no, you have to understand. The point is that when the picks and shovels aren't selling, that's the bottom of the mind. Everything up on top is falling apart. Take it all the way up to the top, up to Microsoft with their copilot.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Copilot. How about Oracle? Have you ever used it? Oh, no, but Dave Jones has used it. Because, you know, he works in... I've never used it. Not as you mentioned it. It keeps cropping up.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I find it to be a nuisance. Well, if you say, yeah, I'll try it, then the first thing it tells me is, all right, well, you've got to have your OneDrive set up. I'm like, okay, click close thing it tells me is, all right, well, you've got to have your one drive set up. I'm like, okay, click close. No, this is classic Microsoft.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm not going to log in. I am not going to log in. No, Dave Jones works in an accountancy firm, CPAs. And he says, it never works. Nothing works for anybody there. They said, okay, co--pilot draw me a pie chart Okay, I'm done and there's no pie chart there's nothing it's just nothing It just tells you it did it
Starting point is 00:11:43 Well, then let me get this out of the way since we got on this track just about AI because I think this warrants a little bit of conversation. I think this is a very interesting move. Elon Musk just made an announcement on X that XAI has acquired X in an all stock transaction. It values XAI at $80 billion and X at $33 billion. Keep in mind, Musk bought X when it was then Twitter for $44 billion back in 2022. For more, we turn to Bloomberg's Max Chafkin, who covers all things Elon Musk for us. So, Max, he suggests that the combined company blends XAI's advanced AI capability and expertise with X's massive reach. Are you surprised by this one?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Well, in some ways I'm surprised because we have this late Friday news in which one Elon Musk company is buying another Elon Musk company, not totally clear how they came up with the valuation. In another sense, it's not surprising because these two entities, XAI and X, have been kind of operating like one company. So X, which is the name for Twitter that Elon Musk gave it, has this chat bot inside of it, Grok. That Grok was created by XAI.
Starting point is 00:12:55 XAI is training off of data from X. I know it's a lot of Xs there, essentially all your social media data. And it's also seemed like one of Musk's plans to make this Twitter acquisition pay off. He paid $44 billion and then promptly lost a lot of the advertising was to kind of pivot to AI. So you did sort of think, how is he going to do this while having XAI as a separate company? And I think now we have the answer.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Wow, it was poor reporting by Bloomberg. First of all, it's really 45 billion, but they carry over 12 billion in debt. This is a great way to keep everybody hanging in there. Hey man, your $44 billion valuation just almost doubled. Congratulations. Now you're a proud owner of XAI stock. Nobody has any stock. It's privately held. No, of course they have stock. It's internal stock. He has like 40 shareholders.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah, 40. I thought there was only 10. No, no, it's a huge list. Huge list. That list is public. This is the kind of creative accounting that you run into when you... This is again an example of Musk. He must have some like... He can't have time.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Some superstar guy that knows how to cook the books. He doesn't have time to do this. Someone else has to do this. No, he doesn't have time to do any, but he's got... He found the guy. Hello, I'm the guy. The guy who can do this and that, he's a juggler. He's going to look at this, watch me act. Watch this. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Whoa. It just turned into two balls. Woo. It's amazing. It's amazing. Magician. And so he found a magician and he did his magic and there you have it. But the best part of that report is that XAI Grok is trained on X.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Oh man. How can that be any good down the road? It's just going to be slop. I mean, X is, I mean, it's also learning about those TikTok nut jobs that you always bring clips from. So it's learning all that stuff. It's learning. It could, you probably create a TikTok maniac.
Starting point is 00:15:06 This learning term, I have one more clip here, this learning term is a very tricky term. It's not copying stuff. No, no. It's learning. OpenAI is urging the Trump administration to loosen regulations on its industry surrounding one of the most controversial aspects copyrighted material. The tech giant submitted its proposal to the federal government Thursday pushing the need for speed in AI innovation and to remove guardrails against tech companies, pointing to what it considers dangerous pose for AI coming out of Beijing.
Starting point is 00:15:42 The proposal is part of OpenAI's efforts to influence the Trump administration's AI action plan, a tech strategy report initiated by an executive order from President Donald Trump and being drafted by the Office of Science and Technology Policy, which must be submitted by July. OpenAI's push for influence comes after the Trump administration announced the company as part of its Stargate initiative, which gives billions of dollars to Big Tech for AI infrastructure investment. OpenAI, however, is currently in a legal and PR battle with Elon Musk, who owns rival AI
Starting point is 00:16:17 startup XAI and is one of the president's top advisors. In its proposal, OpenAI expressed frustration with regulations that restrict large language models from learning from copyrighted content and expanded fair use material to train with, claiming it needs the freedom to innovate in the national interest and a voluntary partnership between the federal government and the private sector instead of overly burdensome state laws. That this is truly the only danger of these types of people running around in our government is our president. He has no idea.
Starting point is 00:16:51 He trusts each. Oh yeah. It was great. AI is going to run the world. It's phenomenal. It's just what could go wrong. And it's crap. Microsoft is not a dumb company.
Starting point is 00:17:04 When they say, yeah, I think we're going to chill out a little bit on this stuff. Yeah. It's the same thing they do with the internet. I might add. Oh, of course. Well, at least, well, yeah, you're right. But then maybe Trump will say, I invented AI like Al Gore.
Starting point is 00:17:19 It's just, um, and now open AI wants to broaden fair use. Oh, okay. Well, that's great. Can I just play songs on the podcast? Can I play songs on the podcast now? Just to broaden up the, the fair use clause, which is already kind of open to interpretation. It's like, ah, this is, this is going nowhere.
Starting point is 00:17:47 It really is. I know you keep saying that, but it keeps chugging away. Well, okay. Let's just presume it's really going somewhere. It's really great. Allow me to play a clip from our new CDC director, Susan Monarez. A lot of people not happy with her. new CDC director, Susan Monarez. A lot of people not happy with her. No, this reminds me of the situation with the, which I don't have any clips of today.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I hear chimes again, John, I'm hearing chimes. You know, I'm kicking it because I got my feet up on the desk. Is it me? It's you. Jesus is coming, I hear chimes. I hear chimes. Yeah, probably for you. So, I got my feet up on the desk. I'm leaning back in the chaise and I got the chime thing at the foot of my feet. It's right there so I can kick it like this. Yeah. And it makes
Starting point is 00:18:41 a ding, but I'm using a highly directional microphone. You don't understand. Because we have a noise gate, if it was there in the background the whole time, people wouldn't notice it that much. But now whenever you talk, you just hear these chimes in the background. No, that doesn't change my attitude about this. I'm using a highly directional mic. The chimes are at the back end a mile away.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And the fact that this mic is picking it up, it has to be a reflection. You should be using the Currie One microphone. Oh, I'm sorry, you can't buy it. So, no, never mind. But it's coming. Yeah, it's coming. So, we're going to go back to the CDC director, Susan Monaris. This is when she was over at DARPA giving a little presentation, what we can expect, I presume, from her as Director of the Center for Disease Control. We think about advancing AI for health care in a number of different facets. So some are direct to the patients. What tools and what capabilities can we develop to help them really understand
Starting point is 00:19:47 where they are in their healthcare journey? And my healthcare journey, my healthcare journey, empower them to make great decisions. We also think about AI from the provider side. How can we help providers better understand their patients? What happened to doctors? It's just providers is just some, that's because a lot of the doctors have been pushed aside from these
Starting point is 00:20:08 nurses and these other- Yes. There's a second one. Yeah. Inject nurse rejectors. Nurse practitioner. There's another thing that says- Providers. Assisted something or other they use. It's just dudes named Ben who press a button on the AI box.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And they don't know anything. Well, they know how to press a button on the AI box. And they don't know anything. Well, they know how to press the button on the AI box. Can we help providers optimize their time within the health system as they're seeing patients, as they're trying to make complex decisions to create the conditions for improved patient health outcomes? Improved patient health outcomes. How about I don't die? Is that an outcome? I can choose that option, please. We also think about AI from the defensive side. So, we understand that there is a great outcomes. How about I don't die? Is that an outcome I can choose that option please?
Starting point is 00:20:45 We also think about AI from the defensive side. So we understand that there is a great vulnerability. The defensive side? Is the defensive side... What? What? What? What does that even mean? Well, let's see if she explains it. We also think about AI from the defensive side. So we understand that there is a great vulnerability within the health ecosystem. More and more is coming online in the internet of things that are going to have an incredibly positive effect. All she does is buzzwords. The internet of things.
Starting point is 00:21:14 That's so funny. Who hired this woman? RFK Jr. Well, he's got his head up his ass if he gave her a job. But we also know it creates vulnerabilities. And so we're using that same AI technology to help defend against those vulnerabilities, to anticipate the negative implications that are happening within the health systems. Negative implications, like you died.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And to try to stay ahead of it. ARPA-H takes on the entirety of the health ecosystem. She's the buzzword machine. Yeah, internet of buzzwords. She has said nothing. No, it's the internet of buzzwords. She's perfect. Try to stay ahead of it. Art the age takes on the entirety of the health ecosystem. Entirely. The entirety of it. Biomedical research. It's not just resilient systems. It's not just investing in the tech of the future. It is all of those. And what we do is we actually- It's all of those. the tech of the future. It is all of those and what we do is we actually
Starting point is 00:22:07 It's all of those it gets better and better It is all of those and what we do is we actually go out and we seek these incredible innovators We call them our program managers program managers that now there's a new incredible innovator Yes, the program managers not just an innovator, but they're incredible Incredible innovators, by the way. Yes, the program managers. Not just an innovator, but they're incredible innovators. Incredible innovators. They're great.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We actually go out and we seek these incredible innovators. We call them our program managers. We call them our program managers. And they come to us and they say, here are the big problems that we're seeing in the health ecosystem space. The health ecosystem space. The health ecosystem space.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Health, the HESS, hold on a second. This got it, what's the acronym for that? Health ecosystem, HESS, that's not good enough. We will fund anything across the health ecosystem so long as it helps further our mission which is to improve health outcomes for everyone. Oh everybody your health outcomes are going to improve. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What a crock of crap that is. I knew you'd love it. It's great. It's great. This is the, hold on a sec. You played this as some sort of slam against AI. It's got nothing to do with any of it.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Well about the hype of it. She's yammering about nothing. The problem is these types of people believe this stuff. I mean, look, Queen Ursula is already talking about investing in quantum. Oh, we need to have quantum systems. You make me laugh. She's taking European money and blowing it away. Just burn it. Yeah, that would be one way of doing it.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I guarantee you that Susan Jemoke should be talking about quantum soon. I can put it in the red book. Quantum. I'm not going to, I don't have to put it in the book. You're right. Right now, you're right. And where's Larry Ellison? He's Mr. Health Care. He should be talking about, oh, you know, we got to, we have to be prepared for quantum. He's almost died. He didn't mean the guys, you know, by accident prone, so he's very health-oriented. Oh yeah, he crashed his plane and stuff, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:24:10 Well, no, he's got a surfing wreck, I think. He's out in the oceans all the time. He's just a couple of issues. Well, speaking of wrecks, and then I'll get off the Elon stuff, this report made me think of something that I remember as a kid. Now, the lithium ion batteries, like the ones in EVs, are completely changing how fire departments are responding to these emergencies. I talked to an expert who is traveling all over the country training fire departments.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I think that this is probably one of the most in the fire service career, decades, hundreds of years, this is probably the most challenging time for the fire service in history. That, and it's still, and it has barely even, we've barely touched it at this point. So while these batteries have more power and they're lasting longer,
Starting point is 00:25:00 the big concern is the design of the car and then if that battery is damaged, nothing like a crash. These fires and end up burning faster and hotter as much as 2,000 degrees so firefighters are telling me that their top priority is pulling people out of the car then it can take on average 5,000 gallons of water to put out one of these car fires versus 500 gallons for non-eV cars I asked Aurora fire where you get that kind of water. Fire trucks typically carry 500 gallons
Starting point is 00:25:28 and if you're not near a hydrant, let's say you're in the middle of the highway or somewhere rural, that could mean rotating out engines or bringing in portable water. And if there's one thing firefighters hope you take away from this is that a lot of EV car doors are electric and that can go out during a fire and then you are stuck inside. There's actually a manual way to open up those car doors are electric and that can go out during a fire and then you are stuck inside. There's actually a manual way to open up those car doors.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You just have to know where it is. That information would be in your emergency guides. Ask Mitch McConnell's sister. That's the one thing about these cars I don't quite understand is why do they have to make it so everything's electrified? I mean, a mechanical door opener. Yes. It seems more a lot, it's so practical because if the electricity goes out,
Starting point is 00:26:12 you can't get out of the car. Oh yeah, there's some mechanism that nobody knows how to use. I think it's pure cost. I mean, what is the beauty of the electric vehicle? Is that it has far, far less moving parts. You just slap together some plastic. Yeah, moving parts do cost more, but how much more does it cost?
Starting point is 00:26:29 Well, so that's the question. A buck, five bucks, ten? This is the question. What is the cost of safety? So now we all know without a doubt, you crash your electric vehicle. You have a chance that not only will your vehicle ignite at 2,000 degrees, it can't be put out easily, and they'll have to have the jaws of life because you can't figure out how to open up your door. And it reminded me of this. In the 1970s, Ford's Pinto had a major defect. The gas tank was prone
Starting point is 00:26:59 to explode in rear end collisions. What made this controversial wasn't just the flaw itself, but Ford's internal cost benefit analysis that revealed that it would be cheaper to pay off lawsuits than to fix the design, resulting in an estimated number of 180 deaths. Do you think they've done the cost benefit analysis of the battery igniting in electric vehicles? I think all these car companies,
Starting point is 00:27:24 this is all they do is cost benefit analysis. I think, I don't know where you got that old clip. I had to go look for one. Well, I'll bet you did. I had to search, I had to search. But yeah, they do, they do cost benefit analysis on everything. That's probably why they don't have the mechanical door opener. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:39 So although it is kind of cool, the thing comes out and everyone thinks everything's cool, but it's still dumb. Yeah. Well, it's not cool. If it's literally not cool, thing comes out and everyone thinks everything's cool, but it's still dumb. Yeah, well it's not cool. It's literally not cool if you're frying alive inside. But that was such a big deal. We should have one of those ping, you know, you have these things. Yeah, the hammer, the hammer ping. A little bitty hammer with a piece of, it's got a little tip on it that's diamond.
Starting point is 00:28:03 With a razor blade to cut your seatbelt. Diamond tip, yes, it's true, it does that too. Because that's not gonna unlatch either, but you're moving beyond the point. How can, this was a huge deal in the 70s, this was a big deal, my grandmother had a pinto. She's like, ah. It wasn't that they were blowing up left and right, but it did happen.
Starting point is 00:28:26 But it was the, as the clip just explained, it was the fact that they said, well, it's cheaper just to solve the lawsuits than to fix the problem. Yeah, I'm sure it is with these, with these cars. Now the 50,000 gallon thing would bother me. Five thousand, not fifty, five thousand. Five thousand as opposed to five hundred. Yeah. And it was a factor there of hundred. Yeah, I know there's a factor there. Yeah ten. So
Starting point is 00:28:46 Is that if somebody and I don't understand why this can't be done Chemically because it's a chemical reaction flower. I hear flour is a good way to put out fires There's got to be some chemistry that you can employ that would put this fire out some chemistry that you can employ that would put this fire out. There has to be. I don't think so. These things are just, these are nuclear generators. This is a lithium fire. This is a, like sodium does the same thing. Well, let's ask Grok. I don't think Grok would know because I don't think it's in the literature. What chemical compound can extinguish a lithium ion battery fire? Answer the question, go!
Starting point is 00:29:39 Well, nothing. Oh wait. Best compounds to extinguish lithium ion battery fires, Lith-X, which is a graphite-based powder. Lith-X? Never heard of that. Never heard of it. I think Grok is making something up.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Hey, it's another X product. Lith-X. It's got X in it, must be something. Class D dry powder extinguishers, which often contain sodium chloride or copper based powders, fire suppressant gels, or tetrapotassium pyrophosphate. Well, now you're talking. Now it sounds like something that would do something. TKPP is what they call it. Tetra potassium pyrophosphate. What not to use?
Starting point is 00:30:29 Water. CO2 or halon. Halon, definitely not halon. Anyway. Well, the problem with water is that, you know, like for example, sodium and they've talked about sodium batteries too, which are just explosive, is that sodium, when it comes, when metallic sodium comes in contact with water, it, it begins to, uh, form hydrogen. It breaks the water down into hydrogen and oxygen and then they catch on fire. Yeah. Explodes. Nice. And that's a lot of kids used to do in certain colleges and high schools when we had labs. Certain colleges? Well, labs.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Some jerk would grab a chunk of sodium if he could get a hold of it and throw it down the toilet and flush it. Oh, like a cherry bomb plus. Somewhere down the line, the thing would explode and blow up the sewer. Not a good idea. No. Anyway. Another reason to keep kids away from chemistry. Yeah, keep them away from chemistry and don't drive these battery cars.
Starting point is 00:31:36 They just don't seem like safe products. I don't care what they tell me. It's not a safe product. Coming in over the transom this morning from your gal with the manhands, is Welker the manhands lady? Yeah, Welker. Welker, Welker the manhands. President Trump called her personally this morning, called her and told her to tell America
Starting point is 00:32:04 the following. in Ukraine and if I think it was Russia's fault, which it might not be, but if I think it was Russia's fault, I am going to put secondary tariffs on all oil coming out of Russia. Mr. Trump said 25% tariffs on Russian oil could happen any moment and told me he plans to speak with President Putin this week. The president told me, quote, I was very angry, pissed off when Putin started getting into the- She likes saying that. She likes saying it out. The president told me quote. I was very angry pissed off when Putin started getting into the like saying Like saying this is the only because it's a quote Yeah, she would never say it normally on TV because she's not like, you know a cussing Democrat. Yes She's a Democrat not a cusser. No, but now this gives her the excuse. I get that was like shithole countries is perfect
Starting point is 00:33:00 I get to say pissed off the president told me quote I was very angry pissed off when Putin started getting into Zelensky's credibility and started talking about new leadership in Ukraine. Wait, but wait, there's more. On Iran, the president said he's also considering secondary tariffs if Iran doesn't agree to a nuclear deal. Quote, if they don't make a deal, there will be bombing and it will be bombing the likes of which they have never seen before. Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again. Woo, baby! President, president mad, mad! He's mad! Pissed off. You know why? He looks hungry, man. He's, he's lost a lot of weight.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Have you noticed this? No, I have not. Oh, he must have dropped 25 pounds at least. At least. I wonder why. Bobby? Bobby is probably right. Bobby is like, hey, Donald, Mr. President, you're a fat slob. You really, and this is not good.
Starting point is 00:33:59 The president sets the tone. So everybody's cussing. That's good. Good work, Mr. President. You got everyone cussing. You got that part done. You got everyone cussing. That's good. Good, good work, Mr. President. You got everyone cussing. You got that part done. You got everyone cussing. You got Welker is saying pissed off. That's good. That's good. You got everyone shaking in their boots. You're going to bomb the Iranians like they've never been bombed before. But you got to get America healthy again. Aha. You got to get
Starting point is 00:34:19 America healthy again. You've got to lose some weight. You know, you might be right. Because Trump, I think, is amenable to the idea that he sets the moral tone. And it's more than a moral tone. I mean, it's a moral tone basically, but it's also the, you know, like JFK is the one who initiated the five mile hike. Everyone should go on a five mile hike. And everyone was going on five mile hikes for some reason. Yes, yes, yes. Five mile hike and they've been everyone was going on five mile hikes. Yes. Yes. Yes And um And the president looks happier for it his face looks good it looks you know, he probably has much less inflammation
Starting point is 00:34:58 He looks good Yes, he's he's his his triglutarites or whatever, I'm sure they're all down. His glutorites. His numbers are down and America loves this president. This is CNN. He's basically more popular than he was at any point in term number one and more popular than he was when he won election back in November of 2024. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Isn't that favorable rating right now comes in at minus four points. Compare that to where he was when he won in November of 2024 when he was at minus seven points or March of 2017 when he was at minus 10 points. So when you compare Trump against himself, he's actually closer to the apex than he is to the bottom of the trough. And of course that's so important
Starting point is 00:35:41 because Donald Trump, historically speaking, has had his numbers Underestimated is great. I love it. He's close. I come on all the time. He's jumping around He's good. He's closer to the apex than the bottom of the trough So here's an ABC report on the agents. We're talking about Bobby the HHS cuts cuts. And so I'll play this report and then after that, out of the horse's mouth himself on the Kid Cuomo show. So listen to this report. Tonight, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. announcing
Starting point is 00:36:15 a massive overhaul of the agency that oversees America's health, supervises Medicare and Medicaid and monitors food and drug safety. It includes cutting 20,000 people from the department, a quarter of its workforce. This will be a painful period for HHS as we downsize from 82,000 full-time employees to around 62,000. I want to promise you now that we're going to do more with less. But experts including Dr. Richard Besser, former activist. Did you notice there was a little edit there?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Director of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, insists you can't cut that many jobs without people in America, quote, suffering. I worry that in this drive to cut positions and save money, critical programs that impact on people's lives are going to be cut as well. Kennedy also plans to consolidate agency. Hold on a second. The critical programs aren't the problem. No, no, but this is what-
Starting point is 00:37:13 It's affecting people's lives. They're talking about 20,000 people laid off. This is a jobs program that's kind of overworked in all this. Yes. No, you're correct. It's a form of welfare. What the media has been doing, the M5F has been continuously getting people on who are if not outright saying it, insinuating,
Starting point is 00:37:33 your Medicare's gonna get cut, your Medicaid's gonna get cut, your Social Security, hey, you might as well kiss your check goodbye, Trump's in town, it's Musk, scratch a Tesla. Critical programs that impact on people's lives are going to be cut as well. Kennedy also plans to consolidate agencies within HHS. We're going to eliminate an entire alphabet soup of departments and agencies while preserving
Starting point is 00:37:57 their core functions by merging them into a new organization called the Administration for a Healthy America or AHA. The FDA will lose 3,500 employees. And the CDC will lose 2,400. That agency also narrowing its scope to focus on preparing for and responding to epidemics and outbreaks. For decades, the agency has handled so much more, monitoring nationwide health trends,
Starting point is 00:38:22 including chronic diseases, firearm injuries, and overdose deaths. So this is all just negative spin, all negative spin and they've even cut out the part where he says the following on the Kid Cuomo show. We're not gonna cut services, we're not gonna cut Medicaid, we're not gonna cut Medicare, we're gonna continue, we're gonna provide services but more efficiently. We have thanks to Elon and the way, what Elon did with our agency is going to help our agency. So I'm very grateful to him for, he came in for the first time with a real org chart for
Starting point is 00:38:54 the agency. The agency org chart, when I arrived, was incomprehensible. There was no chain of command for people operating in all these different silos and fiefdoms. And they were so territorial and so self-serving that they were selling patient information to each other. So I tried to get to see them as patient information, which belongs to the American people and belongs to HHS. And the sub-agencies said, we have to buy it from them.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And it doesn't make any sense. There are sub-agencies that refuse to give us patient data. This is depersonalized data. And we need to make American healthy again. What we're trying, what Elon is doing is he's using AI to improve health, to improve efficiency, to improve delivery. Uh-oh, delivery? And he had a bunch of geniuses come over to the department, create an org chart that worked, and consolidate.
Starting point is 00:39:51 We have many divisions that are doing the exact same thing. We need to consolidate them and give them a sense of mission to invite them to participate in making our country healthier again. And I think that's why we're getting, you know, a very, very strong enthusiastic reaction from people within the agency. Yeah. Well, so they didn't really tell you all that. He had to go to Newsmax to get that information. That wasn't Newsmax.
Starting point is 00:40:22 That was NewsNation. Oh, I'm sorry. It's right next to it on Channel 735. It's not, yeah, it's a completely different operation. NewsNation is done by the Chicago Tribune. Right. NewsMax is done by some right-wingers. But I think they still have the same amount of viewership.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I'm just guessing. Yeah, none. Yeah. So what I thought was a very interesting piece piece and it showed that it was good because you really I've been monitoring since Friday, not a single M5M like an MSNBC, CNN or any of these outfits have used any clips to say these guys are this sucked and no good. And that was the executive doge team on Brett Baer. Did you have a chance to watch that? That was dynamite. I want I
Starting point is 00:41:10 have a couple of short clips if you want to hear some. I love to I mean I have to say that it's this is another example of of Musk's real talent. Yeah. Which is picking guys like this. He just had a bunch of heavy hitters. He had like the co-founder of Airbnb, billionaire, you know, one guy's CFO for five public companies or something, all these, yeah, heavy hitters. And they're all sitting there and like, oh yeah, well, this is what we do. And did you notice the milieu in so far as,
Starting point is 00:41:41 at least two of them under group, talked just like Musk oh yeah. Oh, yeah fast patter and kind of You know the kind of this this weird meal you style that is that's Particularly peculiar to that group well. I hear they all they all go out back and smoke cigars from time to time I can't divulge where I heard that from but I believe that to be true. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah. Of course it's what you do. Hey boys, let's crack a Cohiba.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Woo! We routinely encounter wastes of a billion dollars or more, casually. For example, the simple survey that was literally a 10 question survey that you could do with survey monkey cost about $10,000 was the government was being charged almost a billion dollars for that. For just a survey? A billion dollars for a simple online survey. Do you like the national park? And then there appeared to be no feedback loop for what would be done with that survey. So the
Starting point is 00:42:41 survey would just go into nothing. It was like insane good thing. Now, later in there, one of his lieutenants said, well, it was 860 million, which I thought was, that's not quite a billion dollars. That was a little reckless. Well, if you listen to him carefully, I listened to that again, must says almost a billion. Almost, yeah, I know. Yeah, I know, almost a billion.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Well, it's almost a billion. Well, that's a little over half a million. By his calculations, I mean, the guys were a billion, but it's almost a bill. Well, that's a little over half a million Calculations. I mean the guys were 300 billion. So it's like almost a billion. That's why oh I dropped a billion Whatever who cares? So here is the big social social security fraud which rings very true the two improvements that we're trying to make to Social Security are Helping people that legitimately get benefits, protect them from fraud that they experience every day on a routine basis and also make the experience better. I'll give you one example.
Starting point is 00:43:36 This is one of those milieu guys. This was the guy sitting next to us. At Social Security, one of the first things we learned is that they get phone calls every day of people trying to change direct deposit information. So when you want to change your bank account, you can call Social Security. We learned 40% of the phone calls that they get are from fraudsters. 40%? That's right.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Almost half. Yes, and they steal people's social security is what happens. Is they call in, they claim to be a retiree, then they convince the social security person on the phone to change where the money's flowing. It actually goes to some fraudster. This is happening all day, every day. And then somebody doesn't receive their social security is because of all the fraud loopholes
Starting point is 00:44:24 in the social security system. Now I wanna believe this, but I know that Tina just recently changed her social security bank information and she could not make a phone call. So maybe, I mean, she hadn't tried it previously of course, and she had to do it online and they said it would take two months,
Starting point is 00:44:43 which seems like a long time. But I can, if you indeed can call, then I'm sure that's probably true. So let's go back to H. Yeah. We getting the fraudsters on the phone. This is a situation that, you know, why don't we get to the heart of this? You can complain about this. Oh yeah. You have these fraudsters are calling this way and that way. All these phone scams, whether they're fraudsters stealing somebody's Social Security,
Starting point is 00:45:11 or they're trying to get me to buy some dumb thing that doesn't exist, or get my bank account number, I just don't get it why we can't put a stop to this once and for all. Oh, I can tell you what... I know, I know, this and that, there's a system the way it's set up. No, no, no, you don't know. You can jump all over me and say, I know, but you don't know, you know nothing. I know something. Well, you know a little.
Starting point is 00:45:38 What I was going to say is what will come out of Musk's mouth will be there's no other way. We all have to have a digital ID. Oh, well, that doesn't surprise me you say that. Or at least an ex account. If everybody gets an ex account, we'll make sure that you'll never be defrauded again. That's, I don't see any other way to do it.
Starting point is 00:46:00 You can clone phone numbers, so that's easy. Online, give me a break. That's the problem right there. That's the phone numbers, so that's easy. Online, give me a break. That's the problem right there. Cloning phone numbers is easy. You just said it. Yeah. But that should not be the case. You shouldn't have to have a digital ID. It should be impossible to clone phone numbers. That's the kicker. You're gonna get a digital ID. It's not gonna help.
Starting point is 00:46:24 No, but... You're going to get a digital ID. It's just... It's not going to help. No, but... I have a digital ID and then some fraudster will call me up with a phony digital ID or whatever. It doesn't make any difference. They're going to clone a phone number they don't have. The next thing you know, they're going to be trying to scam me. How about this?
Starting point is 00:46:38 You just have to show up in person at your office and you get cash. Nobody will do that. Over to... I'm telling you, cash. Nobody will do that. I'm telling you they gotta do something it's the phone system at writ large let's use that term there you go writ large. The phone system itself is flawed. Yeah but so but the internet's any better? A web browser? I'm working I'm worried about the phone right now. Okay, well you don't even use a phone. Well that's beside the point. Okay, let's go to HHS.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Another example at NIH is today they have 27 different centers. They got created over time by Congress and they're typically by disease state or body system. There's 700 different IT systems today at NIH. 700 different IT systems. IT software systems. They can't communicate. They can't speak to each other. So they don't talk to one another.
Starting point is 00:47:27 They have 27 different CIOs. And so when you think about making great medical discoveries, you have to connect the data. Time out. You said 27 different chief information officers? Correct. Correct. And most of them are non-technical. So there's a lot there.
Starting point is 00:47:42 There's a lot of opportunity. It will make science better. They had similar complaints about the IRS. Brad mentioned 27 CIOs. If you had kept going with Brad, he probably would talk about the communications office. I think you've got 40 40 distinct communications offices in HHS. I love that. Communications offices. That's marketing departments. That's wasteful. Forty? Yeah. And that's not unusual, by the way, multiple offices like that.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So it's not making anyone healthy. This is not about the employees. There's many, many hardworking, well-meaning people who took these jobs. These jobs were out there. They applied for them. They took them. They're doing what's there. It's just that they're duplicating the effort of 40 offices.
Starting point is 00:48:28 So you've got that, you've got over-staffing. A good example of over-staffing would be the IRS has got 1,400 people who are dedicated to provisioning laptops and cell phones. So if you join the IRS, you get a laptop and a cell phone, you're provisioned. So if each of those IRS officers or employees Provisioned two employees per day you could provision the entire IRS in a little more than a month. Yeah
Starting point is 00:48:58 That's always great that's great and then this one this is one that I would look at in my own company when we had 700 employees this is an easy one and just the one that I would look at in my own company when we had 700 employees. This is an easy one. And just the one that just is in my head right now, which is a fairly mundane one, but I think is very illustrative, is credit cards. There are in the federal government around 4.6 million credit cards for around 2.3 to 2.4 million employees. This doesn't make sense. Right. And so one of the things all the teams have worked on is we've worked with the agencies and said, do you need all of these credit cards?
Starting point is 00:49:32 Are they being used? Can you tell us physically where they are? I hope they're getting frequent flyers. Actually, on a different note, the rewards program the federal government has is actually not very good. That's a whole other negotiation. Yeah, exactly. But so far the teams have worked together and they've reduced it from 4.6 million to 4.3 million. So we're taking it easy. But clearly there should not be more credit cards than there are people.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Oh man. You know, in Think New Ideas, that was the company I mentioned with 700 people, we had one guy with one credit card doing all the travel. And we started noticing that his wife had nice jewelry and they had all kinds of cool gadgets at home, brand new vacuum cleaners. And turns out he was taking all of the rewards points and cashing them in for himself. It was a classic. Oh yeah, I think a lot of, I think that happens everywhere.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I bet it's happening in government. They're, they're guffawing about the rewards program. Oh bitches, lots of people are like, oops. Oh boy, I was taking those points. Getting free flights I think that's what you would do if you had the opportunity you have this card you're centralized something or others or you're doing a lot of charging and reward points are building up not for the for the company but for you for you
Starting point is 00:50:59 yes what would you do what would anyone do And here's my final pitch for digital ID. The minute you pop out of the womb, people. The ways that the government has defrauded is that the computer systems don't talk to each other. So if the computer systems don't talk to each other, then you can exploit that gap. And frauds exploit that gap to take advantage. For example, there were over $300 million of small business administration loans that has been given out to people under the age of 11.
Starting point is 00:51:30 To add to this, $300 million under the age of 11 and over $300 million over the age of 120. Definitely. Small business loans, correct? Yes. The oldest American is 114. So it's safe to say if their age ages 115 or above, they're fake. Or they should be in the Guinness Book of World Records. And we should not be giving out loans to babies. So the youngest recipient of a small business
Starting point is 00:51:59 administration loan is a nine month year old, which is a very, very precious baby we're talking about here. So obviously it was just fraudulent and what they and they do terrible things They actually will see that a kid's been born They will steal that kid's Social Security number and then take out a loan and and leave that kid with a with a bad credit rating There's literally a baby the terrible things have been done. That's what we're saying. I'm telling you It's either that or a tattooed barcode.
Starting point is 00:52:25 They got to come up with some, some ideas here. It's not going to fly barcodes. And then, uh, and then all this will be the final one. Uh, because of course, you know, what Elon is doing is he's destroying the government. He's destroying everything. He's, he's going to take away your social security President Elon.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Let's go protest at that Tesla store. People are organizing protests across the country against Elon Musk's role in the federal government. Several protests took place today in the suburbs and in Chicago. WGN's Angelica Sanchez reports on today's demonstration near the mag mile. Get your Tesla off the road, Elon Musk is set to go. And we're going to be talking about the federal government. And we're going to be talking about the federal government. And we're going to be talking about the
Starting point is 00:53:10 federal government. And we're going to be talking about the federal government. And we're going to be talking about the federal government. And we're going to be talking about the federal government. And we're going to be elected to the federal government has this much power.
Starting point is 00:53:30 It's important that we all show up and say something. Saturday marks a global day of action in the Tesla take down movement with demonstrations planned outside Tesla dealerships across the country against Elon Musk and his role in the Department of Government Efficiency. Seven of those demonstrations are in Chicagoland locations. He does not speak for Congress and yet it seems like institutions and the administration more broadly are acquiescing to these demands. Fans of Musk are vowing to counter protest the movement and some showed up to defend
Starting point is 00:54:05 the billionaire in some cities. Musk is pushing to improve the image of Doge. In a Thursday interview with Fox News, he stated he is being careful and compassionate with his overhaul of the federal government, even as criticism has been mounting over his previous posts on X and emails demanding information from federal workers. So at 12 noon, many of these protests just stopped. Just stopped. The people left. Why, you ask? Why?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Because they were hired. They were only there for four hours. Yeah, obviously. There was no overtime. No overtime. And I have a copy here of the chant sheet. I shall give you a few of the chants that the Indivisible Organization handed out to everybody. Elon Musk go to Mars we don't want your swastikars. Elon Musk is unelected democracy must be protected. The people united will never be defeated. That doesn't even rhyme. What is that?
Starting point is 00:55:07 That's a bad one. That's no good. Hey, hey, ho, ho. President Musk has got to go. Or, we will not cooperate with your techno-fascist state. And two more. Public workers work for us. Can't say that for Elon Musk. And two more. Public workers work for us.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Can't say that for Elon Musk. And my favorite, Democrats grow a spine. Now's the time to draw the line. So what I find fascinating is not almost walking distance from my house here is one of the regional Tesla repair centers. Hmm. And on the streets, there's probably 50 Teslas all around them just surrounding that. There's no protests around here. And nobody in Berkeley, which is loaded with Teslas, is getting their cars swastikaed or anything.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Nobody in California, at least Northern California, nobody's, this isn't happening. Well, have you ever heard the term don't piss in your own nest? They're all going out of state. Apparently. Yeah, yeah. So it's just political,
Starting point is 00:56:21 it's pathetic political theater is all that it is. And then you got Chuck Schumer yelling like, we're going to, we're going to drag president Trump's ratings down. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. But meanwhile, that guy got lucky with the Miramar earthquake, which sucked up all the news. Yeah. You got to wonder if that was the earthquake machine. I know I hate to say it. Yes. That's the first thing I thought.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Me too, because that was a doozy, man, because I've been to Bangkok and I've been to, well, right underneath Myanmar, which they used to call Burma. Yeah, the second town. Yeah, but that's 600 miles away. That's a massive distance. You see the rooftop pool? Yeah. Where all the water's coming off.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Swashing. And by the time it hits the street, they had a... There's one video floating around where, because people were talking about over dinner about, well, you know, water coming down is just like rain. But no. No way. It hits the street like a monsoon.
Starting point is 00:57:25 It's not like a monsoon. It's like a tidal wave. It just wax the street and just wipes everybody out. Have you seen the video from atop that pool? Yeah, with sloshing around and the floating stuff is going over the side. I thought because I saw that video on X and like, oh man, is someone going to get sloshed right over that? I mean, sad, but that would have been awesome. That was awesome. But I mean, and those apartment buildings that were under construction coming straight down almost like the twin towers is interesting.
Starting point is 00:57:59 It kind of reminded me that it literally collapsed unto itself. But that that is a now is that a known fault line from Burma down to Bangkok I'd never heard of that it hasn't been explained yet but I do have a couple clips okay catch up to it all right this is BBC of course and you might want to use your time for the BBC World Service yeah this is a earthquake story. Okay, from the BBC. Oh, by the way, this is the only good news. This is funny because they were just tons of material on this earthquake. But this was the kind of the good news story I thought was cute. Oh, nice. And now, good news from BBC World Service. The death toll from the earthquake in Myanmar is already up to 1600
Starting point is 00:58:46 people. This is your good news? It gets better. It gets better, okay. And that number is expected to rise quite sharply probably as more information comes out. It is hard to get a clear picture of what's happening in the worst hit areas and there are a number of reasons for that. There is a civil war. Communications are for the large part down. Occasionally, as you'll hear, we do get some voice notes out. The ability of journalists to do their job is also an issue. Reporters without borders says reporters there face the risk of torture, arrest or murder. So obviously are very cautious in what they say. Mandalay is the hardest hit city in Myanmar and in neighbouring Thailand. Eleven people are known to have died and at
Starting point is 00:59:32 least 50 construction workers are still missing. That's because they were actually working on a building so it wasn't secure. So far, great news. I'm very happy with this. Hey, just play the clip. Collapsed. But there was some good news, and this is a remarkable bit of tape. What a way to start a life. A Thai woman went into labor just as the earthquake hit, and both she and the baby survived. She described what happened. Luckily, I was on the fifth floor. The medical staff were holding both my arms as we made our way down the stairs. The doctor kept saying it's all right. The hospital staff were holding both my arms as we made our way down the stairs. The doctor kept saying, it's alright.
Starting point is 01:00:07 The hospital staff did very well in evacuating us. They did their best. I was telling my baby, don't come yet. But the pain kept growing and growing. Then I was put on a hospital bed and was surrounded by a lot of medical staff, where I just gave birth right there and then then it was all a shock to me too. Once my baby was born, the ground stopped shaking. I felt great.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I saw my child and the earthquake stopped. Wow. That is great. Thank you, BBC world service. That's phenomenal. We call human interest. That's what we call that. That was a good story. I thought it was the baby that caused the earthquake. That's the way you have to conclude. You have to conclude. I got it. Once the baby was there, the earthquake stopped. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Yeah, boom, done. So here's part two of the whole thing. Lucky baby, happy mum. Well, the first emergency response teams have arrived in Myanmar now, and the UN is trying to coordinate much of that effort Tom Andrews Is the UN special rapporteur on the human rights situation in Myanmar? He's actually currently in bangkok having just got back from the thai-myanmar border there He met people from the national unity government in exile That's the group that was set up after the coup in 2021, trying to replace the military regime. So on the
Starting point is 01:01:30 basis of what he heard down on the border, he gave me the latest information on what's happening. The UN has operations on the ground. Pledges are coming in. The United Nations has a relief fund operation right now that's in place. The ASEAN network of ASEAN countries are making an appeal and putting its emergency operations into play. There are various operations that are in place and that are trying to gear up as quickly as possible. The question is, will that aid be able to get where it needs to go?
Starting point is 01:02:04 Will the military junta put up blockades of it going to areas that it just doesn't want it to go, those opposition areas, resistance areas? We know that every crisis that we've seen, every natural disaster that we've seen in recent years, they have blocked aid. They've created very significant problems in getting aid and assistance to where it needs to go. I am hoping that that will not be the case, but my assumption is that it will be. Oh man. Get back to lucky baby, happy mom. That's the end of it. I don't have any. That's a, I think I have an earthquake story. Lucky baby, happy mom. Love you, long time.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Happy Mum. Love you long time. Yes, I do have a France 24 clip which explains us a little bit more about the aid. This was the moment a skyscraper under construction came tumbling down in Bangkok. Dozens are thought to be trapped under the rubble. The 7.7 magnitude quake toppled a crane from the top of the building, which collapsed in seconds. In these pictures, water from a rooftop swimming pool can be seen cascading over the side of a high-rise. The tremor sent office workers pouring into the streets in search of safety. The earthquake's epicenter was near Myanmar's second city, Mandalay. Not long after, it was followed by a 6.4 magnitude aftershock.
Starting point is 01:03:29 In Myanmar, where the extent of the damage is starting to emerge, a state of emergency has been declared. And the country's military rulers have made a rare appeal for aid. Lines of injured people were filmed waiting for hospital treatment in Myanmar. I think ABC had the aid clip on a day after that destructive
Starting point is 01:03:47 7.7 magnitude earthquake rocked Southeast Asia Rescuers working around the clock to search for survivors still buried under the rubble Bangkok this 34 story building that was still under construction Collapsing sending people running for their lives There was a lot of screaming and panicking which obviously made it a lot worse. Jack Brown's dash cam video capturing the moment. And it was just horrifying to see that destruction. Drone footage shows the scope of the damage. Garrett Breyer from Washington state was in a nearby mall with his wife when they witnessed the moment it crumbled. Immediately we were
Starting point is 01:04:23 just covered with dust and debris and we couldn't see. And there were thousands of people just in panic running away from the building. The epicenter of the quake was in Mandalay, Myanmar, more than 600 miles from Bangkok. Buildings collapsed, roads torn apart. A media host in the war-torn country describing it as one of the strongest earthquakes in his lifetime. It's like getting stronger and intense. So I got a realization, oh the earthquake is really happening right now in Myanmar. Footage aired by Myanmar's state-run broadcaster shows the destruction of the historic Mandalay Palace, in the country's second largest city.
Starting point is 01:04:59 The situation in Mandalay is really bad right now. The clock tower near Mandalay like monastery collapsed and was damaged. Rescue teams from China arriving to assist with search and rescue operations. India and Russia have also sent resources. President Trump has vowed to send aid. There you go. So what's the BBC guy talking about? There's aid, there's aid coming. This is not getting in. the BBC's got this correct.
Starting point is 01:05:29 You know the funny thing about that 600 miles, it says there's only 450 miles to LA from here. Most of the quakes in California typically. You don't feel them though, do you? No, never, never. That's what I was going to get to. But it wasn't a 7.4, whatever that is by the way. We've had big quakes, not necessarily that big recently,
Starting point is 01:05:52 but there's been quakes, I think the big one in San Francisco was 8.6 or something along those lines. But of course these numbers don't mean anything anymore as you know. No, no. We don't know if it's Richter scale to the momentum scale. Now it's bull crap. But the point is, is that generally speaking in California where there's a lot of quakes and most of the world, you have a maybe a 90 mile distance where you can still feel the quake. It doesn't have the effect that it does at this where it took place, the epicenter as they like to call it. But you can still feel it and sometimes it can cause damage 90 to 100 miles away.
Starting point is 01:06:38 600 miles away is unfathomable. That's crazy. It doesn't make it, I mean this like from, it means the entire state of California if an LA quake took place in half of Mexico. That's why I was asking if there's a known fault line there I Don't know one Well that whole area looks like a you know It's been affected by a lot of quakes as well as all scattered like like some mess if you look at it on the map Well, no somewhere there's a pot pong ping pong ball joke in there, but I can't quite come up with it. What? But you've been to Potpong.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Potpong? Potpong? No, I've not been to Potpong. You've been to Bangkok. No, I've not been to Thailand. I've been to Vietnam. Oh, Potpong, potpong in Thailand is where there's a club and there's tricks, there's tricks that women do with ping pong balls and lit cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Smoke. Target practice part of it? Smoke, yeah, target practice. And smoke rings. And smoke rings, yes, yes. I did a documentary there once. I don't care anymore. This is like the donkey act in Tijuana. We've actually talked about this on the show before, many, many years ago. And smoke rings. And smoke rings, yes. I did a documentary there once. This is like the donkey act in Tijuana. We've actually talked about this on the show before, many, many years ago.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Yes, I remember you. Yeah. You were aghast. Yes, I was. I was aghast. Is it not potpong? Potpong. I think it was potpong.
Starting point is 01:08:00 It's a circus act. Pew to Turkey. Pew pew. I'm going to get my turkey updated. I'm going to get back to BBC and do some international stuff. Okay. Because this is going on. This turkey thing is non-trivial.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Here's what I want you to listen for. The people are, they threw this guy in jail. This is a political, this is what they try to do to Trump. And the people are protesting the end of democracy because they put the guy in jail. This is a political, this is what they try to do to Trump. And the people are protesting the end of democracy cause they put the guy in jail. When Trump, when they try to put Trump in jail, I didn't see anybody protesting the threat to democracy. They only, they only call Trump the threat to democracy. It's like reverse. Well, it's because the people weren't pissed off enough here.
Starting point is 01:08:43 We have it too good. Turkey, I mean the lira is not worth the paper it's printed on almost. I mean there's real economic repercussions. Yeah, that's actually Erdogan's big mistake was his economic policy. Yes, whoopsie! Hundreds of thousands of Turkish pro-democracy protesters gathered in Istanbul today in support of the city's jailed mayor Ekrem Imamolu. The rally was called by Turkey's main opposition party, the CHP, and that's the party that's nominated Mr. Imamolu as its presidential candidate. Well, the BBC's senior international correspondent, Orla Geren, was at the protest today, so what was it like? It was quite a festive atmosphere. There were a lot of people of all different ages. We saw family
Starting point is 01:09:32 groups, some people with young children, children still in prams. We saw some older people who were moving with some difficulty. One or two people had even brought a family dog. There were lots of people who were carrying posters of the jailed mayor. And this was a daylight rally, a bright sunny day. So quite a different atmosphere to the rallies earlier this week, the nighttime rallies that we reported on on Monday and Tuesday. But the demands were very much the same. People told us they were coming to demand the release of the mayor. They said they would keep protesting until that happens. Well, that could be a very long time.
Starting point is 01:10:12 In reality, he could be in jail for several years. Many said that they had come to defend freedom of speech, human rights. One young man who was there with his brother told us that he had come to defend democracy before it was too late. He said, if we stand by and don't act, then we will lose everything. And there was a consistent message again from the opposition leader saying that, accusing the government of trying to intimidate the young people. He spoke of the large numbers of young people who had been arrested at the demonstrations. He said this was an attempt to try and silence them to create fear, but he said it wouldn't work.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Now, two questions, maybe they're in your next two clips. One, does the BBC pronounce Turkey as Turkey-ay? No, they don't. We've pointed this out before. And the other one, do we actually know if the accusations against this guy are true? Which they seeming... They say nobody goes into it. Why not? There's just accusations and it's like, well, okay, what did he do? It doesn't... it seems unlikely to be true. Yeah, all right. Well, protests have been going on for 10 days now, ever since since Mr. Umamola's arrest and they've been met with a repressive
Starting point is 01:11:28 government response that's been sharply condemned by rights groups. Our senior international correspondent Orla Gherin is in Istanbul for us. It was certainly a massive demonstration and you got that sense when you arrived because it took us a very long time to enter the plaza where the rally was being held because there were simply so many people trying to get through the entrances. And worth pointing out, I saw something today I have not seen before at a demonstration. There was a long line of what appeared to us to be closed-circuit TV cameras, and these were trained on every entrance.
Starting point is 01:12:06 So it seemed to us as if the faces of all of those who were coming through to attend the protest were actually being recorded by the authorities, presumably for use in the future to identify people who've been at the demonstrations. The demands were very consistent, the same kind of message we heard earlier during the week on Monday and Tuesday at the large nighttime demonstrations. People were calling for the freeing of the mayor, saying they would keep protesting as long as it would take to get him out of jail. Now that could mean a very long fight, the reality is he could be in prison for several years.
Starting point is 01:12:42 People were demanding freedom of expression, people were demanding protection for human rights. One young man said to us, look, I've come to try to defend democracy here before it's just too late. This is filler. So they have this, the idea of having all these cameras makes sense. You have to take, the key to success here is you have to paste on a couple of fake eyeballs
Starting point is 01:13:09 on your forehead. That's the key to success. Also for job interviews, I'm told. It's the key to success. You can do stuff to your face that would be, that would confuse the AI system. The BBC is giving us nothing they're just doing color commentary there's no depth to this reporting.
Starting point is 01:13:34 That's a good point here's the last of it. You mentioned there were CCTV cameras there and as we know the Turkish Authority have already been cracking down on protesters and journalists in recent days Can you give us an update on that? Oh, they're talking about themselves. Oh, okay. Yes. It's very dangerous for us We can't go into Bangkok. It's very into Myanmar. It's very dangerous. We can't do it's dangerous. We're in Turkey Turkey a we can't do kiss so dangerous Well, there's certainly a great deal of fear and we heard that from demonstrators today. Several people said they were afraid of being arrested.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Some told us they had friends who had been picked up in these dawn raids that have been going on over the last ten days. The official figure from the Interior Ministry now is that 1,900 people have been detained just in the past 10 days. We know that among those there are seven journalists and we've had the first indictment handed down by public prosecutors here against some of those who were arrested and all of these people arrested at the protests and the prosecutor is asking for jail terms of between six months and three years. Now press freedom groups and media organisations here are pointing out that among the journalists arrested were people who were simply doing their job.
Starting point is 01:14:54 There were photographers who were taking photographs that have been seen around the world and become famous around the world. And human rights organisations are saying that the legitimate right to freedom of expression to gather peacefully to protest against the government's policies there is a major attempt here now they say to stifle those rights and those freedoms and it didn't begin ten days ago with the arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu it has certainly been a pattern that we've observed here over many years now. More nothing? The regime change I suspect that we were observed here over many years now. More nothing. This is a regime change. I suspect that we're behind it.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Oh, okay. That would make sense because I've had my quad view on 24-7. And there's not even a story. We're not even running a story about this. They're still talking signal gate. I know. are, I know you're right there has not been one single story on American media about this and this has been going on for 10 days and is major. Yeah and it's a NATO member I might point out it's not yes it's a fly-by-night operation. Right, it's a NATO member. Also responsible for the mess in Syria. Yeah, this is, this is, they're out to get this guy.
Starting point is 01:16:06 And where's the Gulen movement? We know their leader died, but they didn't just dissolve. I mean, did anything happen with them? No reporting on that. No reporting. Well, meanwhile, that's the M5M. Now the T5M, which is... So M5M is mainstream media. T5M is the truth stream media.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Very annoyed. When did that come up? I just made it up. Very annoyed this weekend because at least 15 people are saying there's something here, this is going on, you got to check this out. So... What? check this out. So what I'm going to tell you, even Tina's like, oh, there's something going on here with house inhabit. What?
Starting point is 01:16:50 House inhabit. House, you don't know who house inhabit is. House inhabit, not inhabit, but inhabit, like inhabit a house, house inhabit. House inhabit. Okay. House inhabit. Uh, this was a mommy blogger who mommy blogger who became very successful as a…
Starting point is 01:17:08 So, this is about a mommy blogger. It gets worse. It gets much worse. How can it get worse? And Tina would often… She reads stuff like Conservative Treehouse and House Inhabit. I don't know any of this. I never heard of Conservative Treehouse. That's don't know any of this. Well that's why I never heard of
Starting point is 01:17:25 Conservative Treehouse. That's why there's two of us. Oh you don't know Sundance from in from Conservative Treehouse. No I don't know Sundance either. Well I do. I'm listening to the BBC World Service. And now we switch over to the Mummyblogger House Inhabit on the BBC World Service. But this is Tina's beat, because I can't... By the way, that's... By the way, I should compliment you. That does sound great. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Thank you. I don't know if you've heard it. Custom programmed. You've heard it. But it sounds just like an old shortwave radio announcer. Well, I used to... When I was growing up, my parents, they would have one of those alarm clock radios. And so my dad would have this thing at volume 10, because my parents could never get up
Starting point is 01:18:15 because I had to be at the bus stop at 10 past seven to take the bus to then get on my hidden bike to go to school. Oh, yes, it was rough. And that thing would go on and at seven o'clock, and it's just blasting the news. So it's a trauma for my youth. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Anyway, so, so now I have to go watch 20 minutes of Ian Carroll. Now you know who that is. No. Yeah, you do. He's the guy on X with the long hair, with a hoodie, and he's always talking like, I don't know. He's always got the green screen behind him. Looks suspicious.
Starting point is 01:18:58 And then say he goes on for 20 minutes talking about Candace Owens. Oh, Candace Owens, Candace Owens. Okay. So then I have to go watch Candace Owens for an hour It's and it's and I'm like what is going on here? basically, they keep talking about a blackmail scandal a blackmail scandal and That house and habit the mommy blogger has teamed up with that horrible woman from was it New Yorker magazine? Who supposedly had a sexting scandal with RFK?
Starting point is 01:19:27 And now, well, the Maha movement is under threat and RFK can't do anything because he's being blackmailed, blackmailed, blackmailed. And who is he being blackmailed by? Come on, John, you know the answer. Answer the question, go. Soros. Israel, no, of course it's Israel. Oh, Israel, okay,! No, of course, it's Israel.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Oh, Israel, okay, not Soros. Yes, it's Israel. Yeah, that makes nothing but sense on the surface. And, you know, he's always been a Zionist and he's always been… The Kennedys, yeah. The Kennedys, big Zionists, and he's always been in for Rabbi Shmuley and I'm just saying, you know, and that's what people are concerned with here in America. Rabbi Shmuley?
Starting point is 01:20:14 Long story, brother. Long story. Yes, because you know that that's why they don't release the Epstein files is because then we find out that the entire US government is being blackmailed by the Mossad Hello, where you been? It makes nothing but you need to read the mommy blogger You can understand these things. I'm listening to the BBC, but I think there has been a Concerted effort and you know, I I to me it's all spiritual. There's dark forces. There's good Okay, I'm just telling you Look skip ahead To me, it's all spiritual. There's dark forces, there's good and evil. Yeah, okay. Okay, I'm just telling you. Skip ahead.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Huh? Look, skip ahead. We know there's dark forces. Don't do that to me. Well, you told me I could. What are you doing? Now you tell me I can't? No, but you skip ahead is just rude. Skip ahead is rude.
Starting point is 01:21:02 You told me I could. I didn't tell you you could go, yeah, yeah, yes. Off camera you did. Yeah, you did. Off camera. Where's the camera? Off camera. You said I could do that. Now you're calling me out.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Scammer. No, you can call me out. You did that on purpose to give me grief. No, you can call me. Okay, Kara, but go ahead. You can call me out, but you can't just say skip ahead. That's not nice. I think skip ahead is pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:21:18 I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I think skip ahead is pretty cool. I me out, but you can't just say skip ahead. That's not, that's not, it's very, that's not nice.
Starting point is 01:21:27 I think skip ahead is pretty cool. And I think you'll agree with me on this. I believe there is a concerted effort to go after influencers, podcasters, mommy bloggers, et cetera, to make them very fearful to be called out as a Zionist, a Jew lover, whatever it is. They call you that all the time. I don't see, you're not shaking in your boots. But that's because we don't rely on clicks.
Starting point is 01:22:00 We don't rely on views. We rely on people who care about what we're talking about. This is a modern version of cancel culture. It's almost reversed. It's audience capture is what it is. And so they're deathly afraid to be running. See, no one cares about us. No one knows about us. It's true. Only the people who listen, no one else knows. Only there are dedicated million plus audience, but nobody cares about them either, except that they're all big shots.
Starting point is 01:22:29 It's amazing. Well, there you go. But we'll never matter in mainstream culture. We just don't matter. Joe Rogan doesn't have me on and say, man, that No Agenda show is the best thing ever. No. He doesn't. I don't think he's listened to the show once.
Starting point is 01:22:44 You invented podcasting. You used to have long hair. But that's my point. These jemokes, they're all dependent, the T5M, they're all dependent upon clicks and views and algos and outrage. They are literally talking about each other. And that rises. We both noticed this. Yes. Oh, so and so is Tim Poole's gonna talk to Candace Owens, who's gonna talk to Steve Bannon, and she's gonna be on the Bannon show,
Starting point is 01:23:15 and then Bannon's gonna be on, and he's gonna talk to Poole. It's always, and then there's the value-tainment guys, you gotta get on there. Yes, yes, they're value. It's the same little group. Yes, and throw in a little bit of Tucker Carlson and then, you know, and Ian, he was even on Rogan, you know, so Rogan's getting sucked into this.
Starting point is 01:23:33 And I think Rogan's gotten a lot of pushback on, and because, you know, if you don't call out the genocide of Israel on Palestine, then you are clearly a Zionist. It doesn't matter what war or what death you call out. If it's not that one, then you're no good. So all this to say, you should be happy with the best podcasting universe and enjoy it for the last three years and nine months, because what are you going to do after that? Candice Owen. What happened to her? She's bigger than ever I think. Yeah because she's only talking about gossip and show business.
Starting point is 01:24:15 It's Blake Lively. It all deteriorated Blake Lively. That's all she talks about. She's a psycho. Well yeah that would be our analysis. Hey let's talk about. You know, she's a psycho. Well, yeah, that would be our analysis. Hey, let's talk about Blake Life. She's a psycho. All right, we're done. That's it. So it's like everything deteriorates to celebrity chit chat.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Always. Even Alex Jones is tired of it. It's like, if you can make Alex Jones tired of something like this, then you've gone very far. So I was just like, oh man, stop already, stop. So I have some thoughts on Canada and Carney. Oh yes.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Oh, okay, good. I mean, I'm interested in Canada and Carney. The appointed prime minister. And now I feel bad about not getting a clip when I heard it the first time, because I didn't think much of it. I said, I don't know, what is he talking about? It's when Trump's sitting behind his desk, he's yakking away about turning Canada to the 51st state and And somebody calls him and says,
Starting point is 01:25:25 well, you know, there'll just be a bunch of Democrats. They're going to all vote red. I don't know why you want that. He says, well, I don't know. I think that both parties up there are good. And sometimes he makes a comment. He literally says, I think the Liberal Party might be the better of the two parties.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Oh, okay. Trump says the Liberal Party might be better of the two. Meanwhile, he keeps goading Canada and threatening them with this and that and the other, and it's turned the liberal party into a popular party all of a sudden. It did. I mean, yes, it did. It did. And now I'm beginning to think this was intentional.
Starting point is 01:26:07 And let's listen to these. I got three clips. This is the start with this one. This is Trump, Carney, tariffs NHK. US President Donald Trump says he'll slap additional tariffs of 25% on imported cars from April 3rd. One country significantly affected is Canada. Its new Prime Minister Mark Carney stressed at a news conference Thursday he will hit back.
Starting point is 01:26:32 We will fight the US tariffs with retaliatory trade actions of our own that will have maximum impact in the United States and minimum impacts here in Canada. Carney said Trump's team requested a phone call and he plans to pick up soon. Meanwhile, Trump took to social media in the middle of the night to lay down a warning to Canada and the EU. He told them not to work together against the US or even heftier duties are on the way. Trump hopes to boost car production in America through import taxes. But if the US and other countries start a tit-for-tat tariff war,
Starting point is 01:27:12 the global economy looks bound to suffer. Interesting that it's April 3rd. I mean, April 2nd is Liberation Day. What are we doing on April 3rd? This is interesting. I don't know why this is either. I don't get that. But this whole idea that this might be a setup, a plan, a scheme. And the reason I'm starting to think this way is because, first of all, we're not moaning and groaning about Carney never getting one single vote for anything. You're not talking about all must not elected,
Starting point is 01:27:45 he's never done anything. Carney was brought in from the bank. Yes, he is a literal banker. He's a literal banker. He was the head of the Bank of England, and then he was the head of the Bank of Canada, and the Liberal Party just kicked Trudeau out, who quit, kind of quit,
Starting point is 01:28:04 but he knew what was writing on the wall. Well, we knew there was a blackmail scandal going on. Well, there's something going on. And so they bring Carney in. And so Carney's now running the whole place and nobody's making mention of the fact that this guy, why? Why did they put this banker in charge?
Starting point is 01:28:23 And why all of a sudden is the Liberal Party becoming popular again? Because Paul Leverre, however you want to pronounce his name. He's off the radar. You don't even hear from him anymore. He's off the radar. Now there's a bunch of studies, oh no, the Liberals are going to win because they're going to have a snap election now at the end of April, April 28th, I believe. Right. And so the snap election, you do these things, you can do this in a parliamentary system
Starting point is 01:28:47 when you think that you can kick ass. Right, that's what you do. Sometimes it doesn't work out, but most of the time it does. You do a snap, snapper. Snap election. And then you can take over the place. And so Trump is promoting this 51st state thing and throwing, he's getting Canadians pissed off.
Starting point is 01:29:07 And Carney is like, we're going to fight for our country, we're not going to take it, he's Mr. Strongman, it's like strong man against strong man. I believe, and I believe this, and I only get this from memes. You have to get the information where you get it. And you don't know how it's inhabited? I can't believe memes. You know, you have to get information where you get it.
Starting point is 01:29:26 You don't know how's inhabit? I can't believe it. You know Pepe. Pepe the Frog? Yeah, you know Pepe the Frog. Yeah, of course I do. There are memes after memes after memes saying, don't pass this around,
Starting point is 01:29:40 but Carney spent a lot of time on Epstein Island. Oh yeah, yeah, there it is. We're back. We have our. Yeah, there it is. We're back. We have our own little version of it. Nice. So I think Carney's got, they got the goods on him. Oh, Epstein files are going to drop after the snap election.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Well, not necessarily. Or before. Or never. Or never because you want to hold him. Yeah. It's the Bunsen burner. So this is, this is the leverage we have over kind of, this is why Trump was going on about how the liberal liberals are okay. Great. Great gambit. Hey, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark Carney,
Starting point is 01:30:20 what's that in your mouth? What's that in your mouth is What's that in your mouth? It's total. And then you start, so you get these next two clips and it kind of like, is this all part of some grand scheme? Let's play, this will be setup. Adam Chapnick, a professor of defense studies at Canadian Forces College. Since Carney is taking a hard line against Trump on the back of rising patriotism among his compatriots. President Trump's threats to make Canada the 51st state have unleashed a wave of nationalism and patriotism in Canada
Starting point is 01:30:54 that we haven't seen in years, if not decades, in Canada. We're normally polite and relatively quiet. In this case, however, it is a threat to our very being and it's brought out a pride that I think has always been there, but we aren't inclined to show it in the same way as some other countries do. And in this case, whether you lean politically to the right or to the left, everyone seems to agree that we are proud to be Canadian. We don't want to be citizens of any other country. As a result of Connie's continued harsh comments about Trump,
Starting point is 01:31:28 the ruling party's support rate has recovered rapidly. In a poll of polls by CBC News this week, the Liberals were more popular than the opposition Conservatives led by Pierre Poliev. Chapnik suggests the election offers a chance for whoever is Canada's next leader to turn the page with the Trump administration. I am liking this theory of yours John. I'm liking it too. Here we go with it this last clip. This is the kind of there's some other kicker information in here which may or may not have something to do with the scheme.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Canada spends less than one and a half of its GDP on defense, something Trump has strongly criticized. It seems highly likely Canada will sharply hike its military budget. I think Canadians are united in understanding that we have to commit more to defense and we have to spend more on national defense. Both political parties are promising increases to the defense budget. Whether they are big enough to satisfy the United States is not yet clear, but I can virtually promise you that Canada will be spending significantly more on defense over the next five, 10, and 15 years. Even so, if relations with the US remain poor, Canada will seek to strengthen relations with European allies and other countries. From a Canadian point of view,
Starting point is 01:32:55 Canada's national interests are best served when we work with allies. So in some ways, the challenges with the United States might actually bring us closer to our European and Asian allies because we will need more friends more than we ever had in the past. I think that much of Europe is responding the same way, that Europe has to get more serious about its security because it might not be able to rely on the United States in the near future. So this isn't ideal, not the ideal situation, but if something good can come out of it by
Starting point is 01:33:27 closer cooperation amongst like-minded allies in the West, that would be a great thing. So if I understand what you're saying, the real win here is our manufacturing base in the United States is going to grow significantly because Europe has nowhere to buy all this war stuff for at least the next couple of years. Canada has nowhere to buy it. Meanwhile, everybody's ramping up their money and we're going to take it. Yeah, exactly. We should, we're like North Korea, South Korea here. We should, we should drop American flags and Kid Rock CDs over Ottawa.
Starting point is 01:34:09 We need to help them out. Well, there was another little extra bit on Truth Social. The president posted, I just played a round of golf with Alexander Stubb, president of Finland. And it turns out he's a very good player. We won the men's member guest golf tournament at the Trump International Golf Club in Palm Beach County. And I look forward to strengthening the partnership
Starting point is 01:34:36 between the United States and Finland. And that includes the purchase and development of a large number of badly needed icebreakers. They're beautiful ships, I hear. Now that of course is on Russia's border. Maybe this whole, I'm pissed off at Putin, maybe that whole thing is to prolong things a little bit. Let's keep the money train going here.
Starting point is 01:34:58 That pissed off at Putin thing could be a scheme. Could be. Between him and Putin. Yes. Well, the whole thing that Putin is saying is... We're watching theater. Yes. Everything.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Canada, 51st state, letting this carny guy who's not even this crazy guy who's never gotten a vote in his life run Canada. And then we're all kind of like pushing Canada to get pissed off that they get so damn mad that they buy stuff from us. The whole thing is ridiculous. Well let me bring in there in Putin and Russia and and Ukraine into this. This is from where is this this is I think first post. And moving to the war in Europe, Russian President Vladimir Putin... I like that. The war in Europe.
Starting point is 01:35:48 Now it's just, it's not Ukraine, it's the war in Europe, people. It's just the war in Europe. And moving to the war in Europe, Russian President Vladimir Putin has proposed placing Ukraine under temporary UN control to pave the way for new elections and key peace agreements. Claiming that President Volodymyr Zelensky's leadership lacks legitimacy, Putin insisted bringing in a third party to be a viable government that, quote-unquote, enjoys the people's trust. In principle, of course, it would be possible, under the auspices of the UN, with the United States, even with European countries, and of course with our partners and friends,
Starting point is 01:36:25 to discuss the possibility of introducing temporary administration in Ukraine. For what? In order to hold democratic elections, in order to bring to power a viable government that enjoys the people's trust, and then begin negotiations with it on a peace treaty. However, the Russian leader's proposal has been met with skepticism. The White House National Security Council emphasized that Ukraine's governance is determined by its constitution and its people. There has been no immediate comment from Ukraine, however, President Zelensky has repeatedly rejected any notion questioning his legitimacy.
Starting point is 01:36:59 And he insists that elections are impossible under martial law, which he imposed in response to Russia's invasion back in 2022. You know, the concept, the idea that this is what we're watching all theater is highly possible and probably very likely. If you add one more bit in, remember we have to flood the world with American stablecoin, with dollar dominance through stablecoin, you can't get around it. That is now being said by the president, by the secretary of the treasury, flood the world with stablecoin. This is from the Defense and Aerospace podcast.
Starting point is 01:37:37 All the European Union members were just advised to stock 72 hours worth of food and shortwave radio and all this type of thing because of potential catastrophic events to come, including war. They're getting quite serious here. I think they are beyond now the insults that's coming their way left and right. They are absolutely moving ahead in terms of trying to figure out the European defense without the United States, helping Ukraine without the United States.
Starting point is 01:38:06 So they are putting some meat to those bones with the idea that not only is it important for European security that Ukraine is protected, but that this is something that they hope will buy themselves a seat at the table. But I think what will buy them a seat at the table is the fact that there are not going to be sanctions lifted on Russia like Swift, which is one of the demands that Russia has levy on everyone if they're going to agree to this Black Sea and energy infrastructure ceasefire. But to do that, to lift SWIFT and to assist in terms of the agricultural trade and banking resources that the Russians are asking for, The Europeans have got to be part of
Starting point is 01:38:46 that. New Swift is done out of Brussels. It's not done out of Washington. There is a lot happening here and there isn't this, is the US with us or not anymore? The assumption is that the US has walked away. Every day something happens to make them feel that and to know that. And so they're beginning to act along those lines. There is an energy here and a direction here and a drive here and an anger here that I haven't seen ever. And so it's moving. I don't see it turning around anytime soon.
Starting point is 01:39:16 So you freak the people out like you better get your shortwave radios and your tuna fish can and a flashlight because you know because Putin can strike at any minute. And so you've got to give us your money. We need to take your money because it is in effect taking the people's money in advance by borrowing and carving out 150 billion right off the spot and giving that to the contractors, the military contractors, which for the foreseeable future is us. And then what you want to, they control Swift. I didn't realize that Brussels controls Swift.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Well, that's great. Meet the new Swift. It's called stable coin. It's a beautiful stable coin. And you can trade that. It's its own networks. It can trade on any network on any blockchain, any layer two level two system. This is a this could be a very big game. Big theater.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Well, something's up. Well, yeah, I think we're a little deeper than something's up. And these pieces are coming together. I'm not sure how, now I'm not sure how Finland fits in. But then out of the blue, out of the blue, Afghanistan pops up. Yes, it does. Did you catch this? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:42 This is the Minister of Foreign Affairs, Abdul Kahar Balkhik. This is on CBS, legitimate CIA broadcast systems. Thank you so much for speaking to us. The Taliban has been clear that it wants a new chapter with the US. What is a new chapter with the U.S. What is a new chapter? The new chapter means that we end the, close the old chapter of 20 years of warfare, of being adversaries and looking forward to the future. The common goal of a stable and prosperous Afghanistan for the benefit of the people of Afghanistan. And we believe that having an Afghanistan that is integrated, that is prosperous,
Starting point is 01:41:24 that is stable, is also in the interest of the United States of America. So now the Taliban pops up and says, hey, baby, want to talk? Deal? No deal? You got an idea? I got an idea. What do you got on your side of the table? What do I got on my side of the table? But as you know, President Trump is unlike other presidents and wants to make a deal. And the one he's outlined is pretty clear. Give us back our military hardware worth billions of dollars and we will unfreeze these assets
Starting point is 01:41:49 which rightfully belong to Afghanistan. Will the Taliban take that deal? With regards to the assets of the Central Bank of Afghanistan, just as the title says, they're the assets of the Central Bank of Afghanistan. They're not the assets of my government or any other administrations that have governed Afghanistan previously. These are the assets of the people of Afghanistan and the state of Afghanistan. They have been withheld wrongfully, illegitimately and unlawfully, and they need to be released without any conditions.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Okay, so this doesn't sound like it's about the money at all. I mean, first of all, what do we really, there's nothing, they've already gotten rid, they sold everything. They crashed all the helicopters, the planes are no good. All that's... They gave away the pickup trucks are scattered all over the country. All over the world. Probably. And then the asset, the frozen assets, it's a whopping, get ready for it, $17.5 billion.
Starting point is 01:42:45 That's an Elon Musk couch. Nah, that's not a problem. So there's something going on here. And again, is Afghanistan, what country do they border on? Pakistan? India, I think, maybe China? Yeah, I'm thinking one of those.
Starting point is 01:43:01 It's clear that Taliban wants a reset with the U.S. despite this 20-year history of pretty brutal warfare. President Trump made a deal with the Taliban, which ultimately saw the end of America's longest war and indeed the withdrawal of US forces. The Taliban has been in power ever since. And now Mr. Trump is back in office.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Now he said that what he wants to see... Whoa, that was kind of, that was interesting. I missed it. Well, they made it sound like Trump did the withdrawal. Thank you. Oh, really? Yeah, listen again. Alván has been in power ever since. And now Mr. Trump is back in office.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Wait, let me play the, we got to hear the full bit from here. There. President Trump made a deal with Dal Taliban, which ultimately saw the end of America's longest war and indeed the withdrawal of US forces. The Taliban has been in power ever since. And now Mr. Trump is back in office. Now he said that what he wants to see, at least initially, is the return of billions of dollars worth of US military equipment and hardware back to the US. In exchange, he will consider unfreezing foreign currency reserves that President Biden froze
Starting point is 01:44:12 after the withdrawal. Is that a deal that the Taliban is willing to take? Currently, the best way to engage is through normal diplomatic means. Engage, talk, find common spaces that sec secure the interests of both countries and that addresses the common concerns. Now, so Afghanistan borders on all the stands Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Pakistan, China, most importantly, Iran. Yes. That would be the most important one.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Yes. That would be the most important one. And so this is a part of the show. I think we need to have an just called the show. This is a show. This is not all of a sudden the Taliban goes, hey, Trump, you know, you kill our guys, but yeah, you know, let's do a deal. Deal no deal. There's a lot going on here that your M5M is not exploring.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Signal Gate, mommy bloggers. Heck Seth. Heck Seth. Oh actually, what did I have? I had, what did I have? I had a Signal Gate clip here. Yes, Brennan. Brennan lets it slip who he's really having. Yeah. Yeah. Brennan's back with Katie Ture, who has two moms.
Starting point is 01:45:33 One mom is a dude in a dress. If you were the CIA director and you were included on a signal message chain, I know it didn't exist when you were CIA director, but something of that life, she say Chan. Let me say chain. I know it didn't exist when you were CIA director, but something of that like would you have spoken up and said, Hey, listen, we shouldn't be having this conversation here. I know John Radcliffe has said that he didn't release any classified information on that chain. He's trying to absolve himself from any wrongdoing. But did he have a duty to speak up?
Starting point is 01:46:10 Well, I think certainly there should have been questions raised when Mike Walsh informed the group that there was going to be this signal discussion at the principals level. He was the one who put together this communication chat forum. He was one who set the agenda. So it's the National Security Advisor who chairs the principal's committee meeting, which this was a virtual committee meeting. And so there should have been questions raised from the very beginning. Well, wait a minute. This is a pending military operation. Why are we going to be doing this on signal? So it should have been redirected early on to into classified systems and networks.
Starting point is 01:46:47 So, yeah, this is something that in my experience, we never would have done. Again, sometimes someone will pick up a phone because you have to convey some type of message to somebody. And the only way you have to do it is with some type of unclassified system. But you do it cryptically. You do it in a manner that's not going to reveal the operational details. And despite what Secretary Hegson says, there were operational details included in that chat. So it sounds like Brennan's going after Waltz. They're all going after Waltz. And now the latest is this guy Wong. The Wong guy? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Burl Lafond, Cabalel Small. That's all Laura Loomer posts about all day long. I've already solved it. Yeah Some pretty funny stuff she's got this and the connection of course is a guilt by association Which is this one character who is waltz's undersecretary I guess It was married to a woman another Chinese Chinese American who went after the J-6ers thus... Oh, oh, all right. That's the key.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Oh, there you go. Oh, it's a J-6er. Oh man, that's... What a quagmire. Oh boy. Well, then allow me to bring in Jesse Waters. That's right, I'm doing it. Oh, you're...
Starting point is 01:48:03 Oh, okay. Hold on a second I make a note yes make a note make a note I figured this is the three for one it means I could do three for the one what in what universe you get three for one of anything you promised me off-camera off-camera we should stream cameras yeah, we should do YouTube live when we do the show. We should stream it on X. So this is the latest in the JFK files, which went away. By the way, I'm not going to interrupt. Now, as you mentioned streaming a live video on X, you mentioned earlier in the show how we're like not in this group of people that are changing, you know, the
Starting point is 01:48:50 value tainment guy, interviewing Tucker who was interviewing, you know, Ben who's interviewing, Megan, Megan, Megan, don't forget Megan. Back and forth, big circle jerk. They're all video. That's why. Well praise God. You imagine we have to do video. That's why. Well, praise God. You imagine we have to do video. Well, someone had a good nickname for us. It was a tick and twitch or something. Gone is Buzzcrackpot and Buzzkill. No people, we're not going to do that. All right. So this is the latest twist in the JFK files which just went away within days. Within days, I tell you. All this big talk,
Starting point is 01:49:35 the Epstein files, the JFK files, and now we learn this. I would like to actually tell the American people, it was made aware to me this evening that NBC actually has a video that's never been seen before. We're actually going to be sending a letter requesting that from NBC because it allegedly shows Oswald near the vehicle when the assassination took place, which means that he couldn't have been the shooter. So, again, we're tracking down all this information. But, look, there's even a CIA document that came out that Mr. Morley pointed out that actually said that the CIA never bought the lone gunman theory.
Starting point is 01:50:09 And so I think the American people had an inclination as to what we are saying, but we never had the hard evidence until now. And so it's important to note that in a free and fair society, how could you operate or have an agency operating in the shadows? And so kudos to President Trump, also Director Radcliffe and Tulsi Gabbard for pushing for this transparency. It is going to be generational changing that they've done this and we hope to bring forward legislation to ensure that this never happens again for future generations to come.
Starting point is 01:50:35 This is very unclear to me. Did this information come out of the JFK files drop? This whole thing is a confused mess. That's bold. Whatever she said, oh, it's going to be generational. It will never happen again. How do you prevent something from ever happening again when it's just illegal to begin with? I mean, what are they talking about?
Starting point is 01:50:56 Well, apparently all of a sudden there's a picture of Oswald coincidentally next to the car. Hey, how you doing? I'm Oswald. It's film. And Oliver Stone had it too. You're saying NBC has been keeping this tape of Oswald under wraps? Correct.
Starting point is 01:51:15 In fact, Director Stone actually told us that he showed this tape that it was a secondary copy and that he said that this could blow open the entire GFK investigation. What I will also tell you though, Jesse, is he said the NBC has been very, very much so guarding this tape and so I believe that that tape belongs to the American people. We are going to be sending a letter asking for that tape and I would encourage everyone to ask NBC. Who is this woman? She's a Florida representative Luna. Oh, this Luna? The bathing suit model? Oh, hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:51:50 Is she a bathing suit model? She's the one that looks good in a bikini and they made a big fuss about it. Luna. She's kind of a Luna tic. Annapolina Luna? Yeah, she's the bathing suit girl. Let's see. I don't see any bathing suit pictures. Well, just type in Anna Polina Luna bathing suit.
Starting point is 01:52:09 How about bikini? Bikini. Bikini, that's the same thing. All right, all right, all right, all right. Oh. Oh. Oh, all right. Back to the video tape.
Starting point is 01:52:19 We are going to be sending a letter asking for that tape, and I would encourage everyone to ask NBC to release that tape to the public. It's important not just for our investigations but so the American people know the truth as to what happened with John F. Kennedy. News flash. We're never gonna know the truth. News flash people. news flash. Oh brother, Luna's also causing some trouble with Johnson, the House Speaker. She's trying to do something and I can't remember exactly what it is. Somebody in the control room might know this, but she's making a big fuss about something she wants brought to the House floor or
Starting point is 01:53:00 something and she can't do it without Johnson, but there's some bypass mechanism she's working on causing a stir. This is, so this, everything is a show. Everything is a show right now. But in my favorite was the save the spook operation over there at Columbia university. So we know, so SIPA, what's the, what is the, what does that school stand for? School for International Political Spooks. Public School of International Spies.
Starting point is 01:53:31 Public Administration. It's a spy school. It's a spy school. Spy school. Spy school. Yeah. University graduates today tore up their diplomas to protest the school's cooperation with the Trump administration.
Starting point is 01:53:44 Graduates of the School of International and Public Affairs chanted free Palestine as they destroyed their sheep skins. It was alumni day on campus. The protests are in support of Mahmoud Khalil, the Columbia grad student and protester now held by ICE agents. And they also object to the concessions made to curb protests on campus. Some protesters also calling for the dismissal of several Columbia University teachers and administrators.
Starting point is 01:54:11 So these are alums who came by, tore up their sheepskins, which just looked like cardboard to me. It looked like cardboard, just paper. But they're all former spook school students They didn't get a job in an agency and so now they're pissed off. I don't know the whole thing could be a scam The world has gone crazy man the world has gone crazy. That's a good one. I didn't know that story Yeah, well with that I'd like to thank you for your courage saying the morning to you the man who put the sea in his Chimes say hello to my friend on the courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in his chimes. Say hello to my friend on the other end,
Starting point is 01:54:46 the one and the only Mr. John C. DeMora! Yeah, in the morning to you, Mr. Santa Cruz. Tomorrow, the ship's sea boosts at the ground, feeding the air subs in the water, all the names of the nights out there. Say in the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hold on, let me count, say don't move. Don't move, don't move.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Don't move, don't you. Don't move. 89, 90, 2291. Okay. Now you're low. Yeah, we're a little low. Little? The last 10 show average was 2569. But why is that?
Starting point is 01:55:12 Is this a The last 10 show average was 25.69. But why is that? Is there something going on? Because donations were short. Yeah, donations are lousy. We're losing support. I don't think people are interested. We're not talking enough.
Starting point is 01:55:39 We're doing the same thing we always do. It's a big mistake we make. Yeah. Which is we don't talk about what everyone else is talking about as if it was something important. Yeah, and- In this case,
Starting point is 01:55:52 this spiral gate or whatever it's called. Yes, and we also don't have video. This is a- And we don't have, well, the video, I don't think is crucial. I did have a- It is to get us on value-tainment. They keep trying to get us on value-tainment, but they're trying to get you on no one's ever contacted me
Starting point is 01:56:10 Well, I did have a thought about this as we're you know We we have said four more years and we're in that right now the final days the final days the final days I did have an exit strategy, which you're going to roll your eyes when I tell you this, okay Let me pre-roll. Okay, go. Do a pre-roll. Because I finally like, oh, and it was, there was some other bull crap award show, the 50 over 50 or something for podcasts, blah, blah, whatever it was.
Starting point is 01:56:39 And then I'm like, there is, here is an award show, an award that only we can give this show, and it's completely valid and will be revalidated every year, because I'm on the Rogan show with, you know, with Grace, I'm on once a year. You've been on that show six times. I thought it was five, but it's six. Yeah. The diminishing returns. Are you ready? Are you ready? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:03 The Podfather Awards. Oh, I like it. I knew you would. Because you said I'd roll my eyes. You didn't. What do you mean? What do you change your mind out of it? Oh, I knew you would. No, the fact that I, you prefaced it. Oh, you're going to roll your eyes. Oh no, I knew you'd like it. No, the fact that I'm in on an award show, that part of always been against, but then I thought, why don't I exploit this? And there's people always on X yelling, you idiot, you nerd.
Starting point is 01:57:32 He's not the bad father. Adam Curry's the bad father. And I have proof. And I think it's possible. I want to stop you right now. I have been saying that we should be doing awards for a decade. Yes, there's the eye roll.
Starting point is 01:57:50 But I never considered the podcast awards. Oh no, you never considered it since it was, you never, once it's named after you, you're in. Yes, I'm in now. This is, I'm in, this is it. No, you can't, look, this is no time for ego, John. There's no time for ego John there's no time for ego it can be no no it's not makes nothing but sense tech grouch awards just doesn't cut it all right
Starting point is 01:58:12 that we can do those later it does not the same thing tech grouch awards will be great not to mention it but here's the trick it has to be a gala it has to be a gala. It has to be a gala. Or as I like to say, a gala. Yeah, in America they always say gala. It has to be a gala. I think the Brits say gala too for some reason. Not somebody says gala, somebody says gala. Well, we're going to say gala. And I think because he never shows up, he never accepts an award. I think if we have the right award, I can get Joe Rogan to come. And we can do it in his club.
Starting point is 01:58:31 How about that? Yeah, I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:58:39 I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. the right award, I can get Joe Rogan to come. And, and we can do it in his club. How about that? You're liking it, right? Well, I like it, except for the fact that I may have to travel. You don't. You just have to write stuff and just post memes. You don't have to come
Starting point is 01:59:01 if you don't want to. If it's too much trouble for you to come to the gala, if it's too much trouble to come to our Podfather Awards, and we need to come up with categories, but they have to be funny, fantastic categories. They have to be good categories. Well, yeah, like best value tainment. Not joke categories. How about best value tainment? See?
Starting point is 01:59:24 Okay. Well, you give me some ideas. Not joke category. How about best value-tainment? See. Okay, well you give me some ideas. How about longest podcast with no- We'd win that one. With no information. Candace Owens, ladies and gentlemen, the Podfather Award. And what do we call him? Do we call him the Poddies?
Starting point is 01:59:42 No. The Poddies? That would be the nickname that we would rail against. People keep calling these the Potties, but it sounds like potty training. So it would be, you can get an Oscar. Actually, the Potties is not a bad name. You can get an Oscar. It used to be a trifecta, but it's just the Oscar you get the Grammy Award Oh, so we need the per the purgot So now you have four purrs. You know, you need to add the pod father award You are not complete unless you all and everyone has a podcast. Oh, they can all win all those actors
Starting point is 02:00:20 Okay, we said best comedy podcast. That's one category for sure Yeah, what you get some you get some hot you get Dana Carvey or somebody to come out there All those actors have podcasts. Best comedy podcast, that's one category for sure. Yeah, what? Then you get some hot, you get Dana Carvey or somebody to come out and accept the award. And we get those libtards from the, what is it? Jason, what's his face? What's the libtard show?
Starting point is 02:00:36 The one that held all the presidents. J. Cal? J. Cal? Oh, J. Cal, he gets an award for sure. Oh yeah, absolutely. Best all-in podcast. an award for sure. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:00:44 Best all in podcast. We can have best female podcaster. Think about that. No, we don't want to do a sexist stuff. Yes, we do. What are you talking about? Then best trans podcast. Best gay podcast. There's a hit.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Well, I just want you to think about it. You know, since I've got, I'm in, but the categorization, I think you're already taking it too lightly. All right. Well, then where's your ideas, Brainstorm? I've, what? Yeah, I've had nothing but ideas about this for a decade. Well, then spout them off. What are we doing?
Starting point is 02:01:28 First of all, you have to pay to enter. Oh, no. Well, that's what all the podcast awards you have to pay to enter. No. Okay. You don't pay to enter. These are real awards. You don't pay to enter the Academy Awards.
Starting point is 02:01:44 You don't pay... You have to be a member of the Academy or you don't pay to enter the Academy Awards. You don't pay. You have to be a member of the Academy. Oh, we have to be a member. We have an Academy you have to be a member of. Well, maybe that's not a bad idea. The Academy of Podcasting. That actually exists and it's a horrible leftist organization. We want no part of it.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Really? Yeah, the Podcast Academy. Wow. Okay. Well, forget that. No. But how do we make money? Oh, you want to make me that dude? I thought it was a promotional idea.
Starting point is 02:02:12 The money making is part of his promotion for the show. Oh, okay. Well, value for value. Oh boy. Okay. Oh man. You just wanted to cash in on some keys? All of a sudden? Fees?
Starting point is 02:02:30 Exit strategy. Can we get a sponsor? Collecting fees? Can we get this thing sponsored by Squarespace? Can we get it sponsored by Squarespace? We could do that. We could do sponsorship. Row? Row? Underwriting sponsorships, advertising, whatever you want to call it. get sponsored by Squarespace and... We could do that. And Rowe? Rowe? Underwriting sponsorships, advertising, whatever you want to call it. Yes.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Boner pills. We can do something. There's something in there for us. Yeah, that would be fine with me. Okay. In fact, that's why I think it's necessary to make the event work at all. Yeah, because we have to have a budget. Yeah, so you get a budget from the underwriters.
Starting point is 02:03:03 We give it away for free. I mean, people get it for free. They're just gonna have to you know Yeah, no, I can I can I can see that's not a problem fastest talker Boom, there's Ben Shapiro. He's oh, yeah, but then that's yeah Ben Shapiro There's maybe one or that that girl that used to work for Ben Shapiro's operation She's who sounds and looks like Ben Shapiro, that girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She could win that.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Everyone's saying I'm selling out. Shoe on head needs an award. Shoe on head? Well, I have come up with the concept. It's up to you to take it over the finish line. Yeah, we'll make it happen. Oh yeah, sure. Is Jay's working on the website as we speak?
Starting point is 02:03:50 Well, she could be. She's getting pretty good at that. Thank you to these trolls who are with us and contributing nicely. By the way, every troll gets free entry on the website. Yeah. We should have the troll room just scrolling by during the Podfather Awards. Huh? We could do that.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Yeah, just big screens where they're just saying horrible things. Yeah, you're cushing. Ben Shapiro comes up, Zionist! Yeah, yeah. Pig. Zionist chill. We could get them all. I think it would be a hootenanny.
Starting point is 02:04:23 You do it in Austin. Everyone wants to come to Austin. There's always a hootenanny. You do it in Austin. Everyone wants to come to Austin. There's always a flight to Austin. You do it in Joe's club. I think I could get Joe to do it. I think he would be okay with that. Well, if Joe would do it, let the club do it, then he wouldn't be a problem for him to accept an award.
Starting point is 02:04:38 No, of course not. Because he's there anyway. Yes. Best comedy podcast. Boom. There he is. He's done. Well, it's not a comedy podcast. Best Interview Show. It's listed under comedy, but yeah. He can be listening to anything he wants. I'm not categorizing him.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Anyway, so... I don't watch that show and crack up. I'll expect a business plan by 3 p.m. You're not getting anything by 3 p.m. Thank you very much Troll trolls for being with us. They're trollroom.io, noagenda.stream, and of course in the Modern Podcast apps. These are the ones you wanna get.
Starting point is 02:05:14 The Podfather Awards will only be streamed live on the Modern Podcast apps, of course, and NBC this fall. You can get one of those at podcastapps.com. And as you just heard, we're about to sell out from our extremely successful model that we've been running for over 17 years, value for value. Although I do like the idea of just using the whole show as promotion, the whole Podfather Awards as promotion for no agenda. I think that's pretty good. But then we would have to kind of switch the video.
Starting point is 02:05:47 What? Yeah, we do video. The awards can be videoed. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Why they have to. We're not doing the podcast video.
Starting point is 02:05:55 No way. No, no way. It's not going to happen. You imagine. It would be in that same circle jerk. Although, we think of all the podcasts we could be invited on. We finally get on Valuetainment.
Starting point is 02:06:07 You can get on anytime. They love to have you. No, that's not true. No, they don't want me. They don't like me there. I can tell. Why don't they like you, you think? I don't know, but everyone's always saying, get Curry on, get Curry on.
Starting point is 02:06:18 And they'll post on X, who should we get on the podcast? Who do you want to see? Curry, Curry, Curry, Curry, Curry, Devora, Devora curry curry curry curry never Never It's totally valid. I'm also baffled that Tucker Carlson hasn't invited me Let's see you on Tucker. Yes, I do I'm an interesting guy. I Think Beck go back to Beck. Beck has got a better audience Yeah, but Beck wanted me to work for him and I kind of turned him down.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Yeah, you keep saying that, but so what? He still thinks you're his brother. He'll be glad to put you on the show. He can't pitch you again. I got to have an angle, man. He's all in. He just did this whole thing on AI and Beck's like, you know, this is happening. This is the new God. Oh, he's all in on AI. Oh, he talks to AI.
Starting point is 02:07:13 He talks to AI. Yes, he talks to AI. AI? Yeah. He really, he really believes that it's the, it's the new Gollum. You know, if you know the story of Gollum. Yeah, Gollum mud. Yeah, if you know the story of Gollum. Yeah, Gollum mud. Yeah, okay. Yeah, the Gollum character. Anyway, value for value. That's how we continue to roll for as long as we can.
Starting point is 02:07:34 It was definitely shorter today than expected, but you're right. It's probably because there's no video and we're not talking about all the important stuff. We're not harping all the important stuff. You know, we're not harping on that one thing. Like RFK Jr's blackmail scandal. Yeah, because it's all bull crap. We don't talk bull crap. That's the thing. It's a problem. They're not used to getting good material from us because we don't talk about nonsense.
Starting point is 02:08:04 I met a cool guy yesterday in in Fredericksburg. I know. Yeah, Saturday. Yeah. He's going to do some work with me, some development work. And I said, well, how long he's 47. How long you've been listening? Says, oh, I've been listening almost from the beginning. But then I fell overboard for a long, long time. I didn't come back until 2018. Why did you fall overboard? Says, well, you know, I worked in aerospace at Space Force for 20 years. And when you started
Starting point is 02:08:30 talking crap about the moon landing, I got upset and I stopped listening. Wow. I had no idea that people got mad about that and would rage quit. That's interesting. Well, Leo Laporte felt the same way. People got mad about that and would rage quit. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Leo Laporte felt the same way. Yeah, he still does. Time, talent, and treasure. That's all we ask in return.
Starting point is 02:08:54 Whatever value you receive from this program. And I think we do deliver the goods. We do give you value. It's definitely not what you're getting anywhere else. And maybe you look smart at a cocktail party around the water cooler or on the company or the Monday morning zoom meeting this things is intellectual smart things you can say and people will go Wow, I guess you don't read home and habits do you? and one of the ways that we always enjoy is
Starting point is 02:09:21 our artwork from our artists and these artists, you know, I've noticed the artists are actually tricking us into believing that they're doing AI, but they're not. Just before we thank our artists for episode 1750, Sir Shug, who did Flexibilize on 1749, he said, thanks for the props and choosing one of my art pieces. Again, just to confirm, old school jazzercise artwork was indeed my inspiration. The listener involved in that original art was correct in her assessment. I hope it gave her a smile, but just so you know, no AI at all in that one. If I thought anything was AI, it was going to be that one. And so now I'm questioning Nico Seim because he did a dynamite piece, which may, and it
Starting point is 02:10:11 may not be AI. This, this could just be a well-done piece, which was the Liberty Juice. I think that's the idea. So we had a dinner table conversation because JC is an AI and talking about your complaint from the last show. Which one? He says he could have... Sorry? Which complaint? There's a lot of complaints I have.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Well, the main complaint that you tried to get AI to do some coding for you because... Oh, yes. Big coding, oh coding. And he said that this is a known problem with AI. Oh. That unless you know what you're doing to begin with, in other words, you can code in the language and you're adept at it, AI can't do Jack.
Starting point is 02:10:54 All it can do is help you a little bit. And I think it's the same thing with these artists. The guys who are really have an artistic temperament that use AI, and I would put Darren O'Neill in that category, they know how to prompt, they have a sense of it, and they have a sense of everything that's artistic, because Darren O'Neill, for some unknown reason to us, he's a very artsy guy. And so, and other artists, like Scaramanga is a good example, and there's others that know how to, Scaramanga can do, he can do animation in AI to the point where it's attracted Brunetti.
Starting point is 02:11:35 Yes, I know. And so we have, it's the same thing. If you, if you do, I can do some AI stuff with the art, but I can't do anything compared to, I mean, compared to what Darren can do some AI stuff with art, but I can't do anything compared to what Darren can do because he's more of an artist than I am. And it's the same thing with coding. So that was his comment. Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:55 Well, so then the promise of AI is bull crap is what you're saying. So unless you can actually write a book, AI won't be able to write a book for you. Exactly. And if you can't do art, AI can't do art for you. Now, the exception to this may be Comic Strip Blogger, but Comic Strip Blogger maybe is an artist in some way and he could, and he just got pretty adept at using the prompts. Because he has AI butt art?
Starting point is 02:12:22 He's just the butt guy. Well, I mean, and he gets AI to do it. I mean, that's his specialty. He's a butt expert. Okay. It holds true. That was kind of the point. So it's an augmentation rather than,
Starting point is 02:12:36 okay, originate, augmentation, not origination. So is that really worth a hundred billion dollars per company then? Of course not. No, okay. Thank you. But it's too late now.
Starting point is 02:12:48 No, you wait. The data center scams falling apart. So we thank, who are we thanking again? We were thanking Niko Seim. Niko Seim, yes, for his artwork. Now we both liked Tontanil's Splash, but we kind of really wanted that for a title. And I didn't think the art was that compelling. You really like Darren O'Neill's Freedom Sap. Well, yes. The ultimate choice came between Liberty Juice from Nico Seymour's Freedom Sap
Starting point is 02:13:25 Liberty juice from Nico Seym or freedom sap from Darren O'Neill. And I even liked the fact that he had a better can description. The taste of freedom, 33 ounces versus Nico Seym just had 12 ounces on there. But you have a problem with sap. You just don't like sap. I thought sap as an associative word and anyone who listens to No Agenda shouldn't be seen as a SAP. Wow, that's taken us far. Sorry. And so I was thinking of using it. Well, I could use it for the newsletter because it's very attractive. But then again, then I saw this little
Starting point is 02:13:59 screaming meme-y thing by Dr. Kelly. Yeah. And I said that I just saw that image, I don't know if that was AI or not, but it's just the screaming liberal. I mean, I just, I had to use that, so I ended up using that. By the way, just on that idea of it being a tool. So many people believe that they know how to write a song and they go into AI and then they say AI write a song, they might give some lyrics or a snippet of lyrics, and then they send it to me and say, this is the best song ever. It's always a country song. I'd say 90% of all. Why is that by the way? I's I've heard I've noticed this too. Because the least people in the world understand what a good country song is. The most people will think oh that's great. That's my feeling behind it. And
Starting point is 02:14:55 the most people will know what a good hip-hop song is and and and it's all atrocious. It's no good. And people just because it's in tune and it rhymes and it comes up with a with a chorus be like this song is the best. This is actually killing Spotify. Well, the inverse, Spotify is making tons of money. There's, you know, hundreds of artists, amazingly in Sweden, who are just flooding. So the whole business on Spotify is playlists. You have to get on a popular playlist. That's how you get a hit and you can buy your position. It starts at $5,000 and these playlist makers, they know what they're doing. They know how to make playlists and Spotify promotes the playlists. It's all incestuous, believe me. So now Spotify is promoting all these different plays.
Starting point is 02:15:45 Oh, Sleep at Night, Soft Jazz, Piano Jazz, Classical, and it's all AI generated muck. And because it's AI generated muck, they take all the money from it. They don't have to give it to the music publishers. Anyone, yeah. They don't have to give it to the music publishers. Anyone? Anyone, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:06 And I think it's going to be... It's a very dark road they've taken by doing this. Now people are starting to notice. Yeah. Because of... Dark road to the bank? Well, yeah, we'll see. Anyway, was there anything else we needed to mention?
Starting point is 02:16:21 I kind of like the... I like the boomer pills. It wasn't good enough for art by also Nico sign Nico sign comic strict bloggers Liberty juice can I thought that was pretty good Didn't tickle my fancy. No, I didn't recommend it. You liked signal trap Well, I said it was interesting but but the signal, it had to be blue. It had to look more like a signal. It was too obscure.
Starting point is 02:16:49 Too obscure. Sir Shug did that one. Anyway, thank you, Nico Simon. Good work. Thank you. We appreciate it. And we appreciate what everybody does to support the show because that is actual money in the bank for us.
Starting point is 02:17:01 Money we don't have to spend on on doing these types of things but we do need to pay bills strangely enough so for that we thank all of our financial supporters who delivered value back to the show fifty dollars and above and we like to give a special thanks to our executive and associate executive producers these are the ones who come in 200 dollars or above now if you do that you get an associate executive producer. These are the ones who come in $200 or above. Now, if you do that, you get an associate executive producer credit, just like Hollywood. In fact, go to imdb.com. You can see many Hollywood big wigs like Dana Brunetti,
Starting point is 02:17:33 known from 50 Shades of Grey and 50 Shades of Grey. And Gran Turismo and House of Cards. I mean, it's no lightweight. This guy. Yeah, it's very non-ending. Non-ending, that's right. And we'll read your note. Uh, $300 or above. Uh, you get an executive producer credit and we'll read your note and we kick it off with Commodore Mech. That is because he becomes a Commodore today.
Starting point is 02:17:57 I believe. No, maybe not. He was, was he already a Commodore? Let me just check for a sec. I think it's today. I could be wrong. I can double check. Yes. He wants to be knighted. No, he wants to be knighted, but he becomes a Commodore today. So he already gave 100.
Starting point is 02:18:12 I mean, whatever it is, Commodore and a knight. He's from Cherry Hill, New Jersey, home of Eddie Murphy, and comes in with $500 and says, Karma, please. I finally looked over my previous donations and with this donation I have surpassed 1000 that is the magic level that means not only we become a calm adore the no agenda show but also a knight of the no agenda round table and we will knight you sir mac later on and he asks for a karma here it comes you've got karma
Starting point is 02:18:42 and then we go to poland of all places and Sir Mark comes in from Poland 500 bucks. Wow. He's in Warsaw as a matter of fact. He wants to be a commander. Commodores, what you're going to get. Just sending karma to everybody. So he put a karma on. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:59 You've got karma. Eric Kessler is in Kansas City, Missouri. Three fifty and and 93 cents. Must be with some fees added there. Thank you, John and Adam, for your courage. It's provided me with a better education than all my years of higher education. Cheers. How about that?
Starting point is 02:19:18 We don't have video, but we do deliver some value. Proof right there. That's because we're an actual podcast. Yes, we are podcast indie No agenda meetup comes in from Greenwood, Indiana They sent a note in and the check and three hundred thirty three dollars and they have with the raffle Which are ooh. Mm-hmm. And this one goes to sir ripper Sir ripper ripoff ripoff ripoff. Oh, that's what it is. Sorryipper, rip off, rip off, rip off. Oh, that's what it is, sorry.
Starting point is 02:19:46 Sir, rip off the maple. No note, so double up the karma. All right, we shall do that right away. Double up karma. You've got. Uh. Double up. Uh.
Starting point is 02:19:56 Karma. And we're here at the Associate Executive Producers where we always find some favorites. Eli the Coffee Guy from Bensonville, Illinois, 203.3 dot 30 and he says I recommended no agenda to a buddy and explained how the show is about media deconstruction His response was well that must keep those guys busy 16 plus hours a day with all the BS out there Correct yes Thank you John and Adam for your courage and the hard work. And for everyone working hard at their craft,
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Starting point is 02:20:49 Yeah. Yeah. Can this show too. Consider this my reparation donation for listening. We're listening for a couple of years, but never donating. Thanks. It would be these are deducing. You've been deduced.
Starting point is 02:21:06 Thanks for all your hard work providing an excellent product. I've heard bits and pieces, but would love to hear the origin story of how you two started the show. Many years ago, there is an episode out there that does this. This is episode 200. I don't know it. Well, episode 100, 100.5, 200, 200.5. I thought5 200 200.5 no we had 100.1 100.5 I thought we've done these many times no I know I but I thought it was 200.1.2.3.4.5 it's real simple that's where you that's where you explain it. Well anyway, I'm not going to explain it.
Starting point is 02:21:46 People should listen to that episode. I think it's either 100 or 200. No, 100 is when I quit. That's right. Oh that's right. You quit at 100. It's 200 that we did this series. 200.5. 200.5 is what everyone says. 200.5. Yeah, okay. That's always right to begin with. You're always right. I am.
Starting point is 02:22:08 Yep. See, podcast awards, pod father awards. Pod father, now you've already dropped them. Pod father awards. It's the official pod father awards. And now, ladies and gentlemen, we're not going to call it the poddies. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage, John C. Dvorak. You come out in your tuxedo, everyone's hooting and hollering, with chicks, with chicks, John Babes. One on each arm.
Starting point is 02:22:35 One on each arm, a babe on each arm. Perfect. Yeah. That's where you do it. Yep. All right. You're up with this. No, you didn't finish.
Starting point is 02:22:43 I didn't. Oh, thanks for all your hard work providing an excellent product I've heard of bits and pieces, but love to hear the origin story. How you started to show we just talked about that many years ago Cheers. I'll get some cheer. Right Cheers Justine in Plainville, Connecticut We're at the at the end here almost $200 dear Adam and John I've been listening to the show since pre-covid when I got married I got my husband hooked and now he's a bigger fan than I am. Can you please wish my husband, Carl, a happy 34th birthday with a birthday biscuit jingle?
Starting point is 02:23:14 They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. As well as a karma for a third human resource that we've been trying for. Oh, wait a minute. That's a baby-making karma. We've got to do the proper karma., can't hand out the wrong karma. Best from Justine from Plainville, Connecticut, yes, absolutely, and remember, any kid will have to be named after us. Linda Lupatkin wraps it up from Lakewood Colorado with $200 and asks for jobs karma and says for a competitive edge with a resume that gets results go
Starting point is 02:23:52 to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs that's ImageMakersInc. with a K and work with Linda Lu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! You got karma. And that's it. Short list for executive and associate executive producers, but they did produce two Commodores, and the Knights will be bestowing them with those awards later on in our second half. Thank you so much. Of course, you can donate any amount. Numerology people seem to like that. Any frequency, it's all incredibly welcome.
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Starting point is 02:25:12 Okay. Here, let me get up. Oh, my head! And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the kind of comedy you can expect at the Podfather Awards. At the Mothership in Austin. So, you know, there's a nut that I don't know who this guy's aware of what's going on, but McCrone seems to be going nuts. Yeah. I've noticed that. Well, you know, he's married to a dude, so that's part of the problem.
Starting point is 02:25:43 And Candace Owens is not letting up on it. No, this is her main thing. She also thinks Schumer's married to a dude. Wait, but has she said yet that Mother Teresa was Fauci's mom and that she's a dude? Because that is the best one I've heard. No, I have not heard that one. It's exclusive right here on the show. Let's play a couple of clips.
Starting point is 02:26:07 I got the France-China climate crap from NHK. Okay, let's do that. China says it has agreed to bolster cooperation with France in maintaining multilateralism in global trade and combating climate change. The two sides met on Thursday in Beijing against the backdrop of Washington's America First policies. Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi and his French counterpart Jean-Noel Barreau
Starting point is 02:26:32 issued a joint statement marking the 10th anniversary of the Paris agreement on climate change. The responsibility of our two countries is also to jointly propose solutions to global challenges, as we did 10 years ago to contribute to the conclusion of the Paris climate agreement.
Starting point is 02:26:52 The two sides of China and Europe should insist on being mutually beneficial and win-win partners and open up new prospects for bilateral cooperation by properly resolving the specific problems that exist through consultation. In an apparent reference to Trump's decision to pull the US out of the Paris Accord, the statement says, the regression of certain countries from scientific consensus and the withdrawal from multilateral institutions will only strengthen our determination and actions. Oh, well, there's more money you can spend, France.
Starting point is 02:27:22 Don't I recall that when China joined the Paris Accords that they said, yeah, we're going to do all this and that and the other. In 2035. Yeah, something more 2030 or 2035. And they said, that's when it's going to happen. And so what is the deal? Did you get away with that forever? This bull crap that you're just, oh yeah, we're all in, but in 2030.
Starting point is 02:27:45 Well, yeah, because no one cares because they're all in it for the money. Even Al Gore, he's back again. He's running around. Is it too late, Vice President Gore? Well, no, it's never too late. No, I'd be out of a job if it was too late. It's not too late, but you know,
Starting point is 02:28:01 a lot of damage has been done. Ooh, buh, buh, buh. And so here's Macron going on and on about Ukraine now, and trying to set up shop. French President Emmanuel Macron says, a Franco-British delegation will soon visit Ukraine to plan for the deployment of what he called a reassurance force.
Starting point is 02:28:21 The troops' role would be to guarantee an- Reassurance force. What does that even mean? I have no idea. It doesn't mean anything. A reassurance force? Plan for the deployment of what he called a reassurance force. The troops role would be to guarantee an eventual ceasefire with Russia. Macron hosted the summit of leaders of about 30 nations and organizations in Paris on Thursday
Starting point is 02:28:50 to discuss support for Ukraine. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy also attended. Macron told reporters after the meeting the participants unanimously agreed that time was not right to lift sanctions on Moscow. White House officials said Tuesday Washington had agreed in separate talks with Moscow on Kyiv that safe navigation would be ensured in the Black Sea and the use of force would end in those waters. But Russia has insisted some sanctions must be lifted before the agreement can take effect.
Starting point is 02:29:26 Speaking after the Paris summit, Zelensky said Russian President Vladimir Putin is not ready for direct negotiations. The Ukrainian leader added that he is ready for negotiations in any format. Force armes? No, it would be Force Armais Réassurance. This doesn't sound right. Reassurance of what? Force.
Starting point is 02:29:55 We're going to reassure that we have, I don't know, reassurance. Sounds like something Warren Buffett sells. That's reinsurance. Oh, reinsurance. I came across a crazy ad that I'd like to share with you. And it just, yeah, I guess it comes on the heels of, you know, as a producer who I donated too late for today's show, send me a really long note. Did you see that note come in by any chance? I'm sorry, what? So, you know, as a producer who I donated too late for today's show, send me a really long note. Did you see that note come in by any chance?
Starting point is 02:30:28 I'm sorry, what? The producer sent a really long note that came in too late for today's show. I didn't see it. And it was about pharma advertising. Yeah. And I want to see if I can find it real quick. advertising. Yeah. And I want to see if I can find it real quick. Um,
Starting point is 02:30:52 no, the crux was please stop talking about, uh, RFK removing pharma advertising. Why should we stop talking about it? Because that's going to kill my business. Oh, well what's it got to? We're not working for him. Does he send us enough money to stop talking about this stuff? Get on that Linda-Lou Pac-in train. Well, you know, he says this is one of the biggest businesses. It's so much money for people who are advertising creatives.
Starting point is 02:31:24 That it's going to kill their industry. But that's just the advertising industry. There's other things that need advertising. Well, no one wants to lose their job. Let's understand that. But why would you lose your job if you lose it? It's called losing an account. Well, but it's the biggest accounts.
Starting point is 02:31:41 The point of the producers' point was... The biggest account. There you go. Now you're talking. It's the biggest accounts that the point of the producers The biggest account there you go. Now you're talking it's the biggest accounts. Yeah, you guys don't talk negative about Coca-Cola and Pepsi Which are other big accounts said we don't that's correct. We should you know, did you know there was a whole influencer campaign for for for sugary drinks that a whole bunch of right-wing influencers were on the money train for? No, tell me about it. Yeah, yeah. Well, another thing we missed out on because we're legit. There are people apologizing like, oh I'm sorry. It was because they're talking about taking sugary drinks off of SNAP.
Starting point is 02:32:25 And so then there's some genius in sugary drink land, which could either be Coca-Cola or PepsiCo. I don't know if there's much more. He came up with an idea. I know what it will do. We'll get a bunch of those mega people to talk positive and say, oh, don't take that off SNAP. It's good.
Starting point is 02:32:41 It's good for children. And they got paid. And they got paid. And good money, apparently. Anyway, I think there's, my point would be, I think there's plenty of room for imagination and creativity in advertising. Have a listen. Imagine a toilet so striking, it inspired a couture dress.
Starting point is 02:32:59 That's right. Colors Veil Smart Toilet in honed Black actually inspired fashion designer Laura Kim to create a stunning black chiffon dress that debuted on the runway at New York Fashion Week. The Veil Smart Toilet, with its curved design, deep, rich, textural color, touchscreen controls, and customizable cleansing features, can transform your routine into something extraordinary. That's the power of design. Design changes everything. Vale Smart Toilet in Honed Black, only from Kohler.
Starting point is 02:33:29 Discover the Vale Smart Toilet and go behind the scenes of Kohler's partnership with creative director, Laura Kim at Kohler.com. I'm telling you. When the runway model came down the runway, did anyone try to jiggle her handle? There it is, I was waiting for something. That's very creative.
Starting point is 02:33:45 How do we do an ad for a smart toilet? And now I want one of these. A smart toilet? Yeah, why not? Everybody's got one but me. I don't have a smart toilet. Horowitz has got one. He's got a smart toilet.
Starting point is 02:33:58 Brunetti's got a couple of them. What do these smart toilets do? Well, when you walk in the bathroom, the toilet opens up and greets you. Wait, does it do like this? You are being recorded. Does it do one of those? Not yet. Kohler smart toilet. Really?
Starting point is 02:34:21 How come everyone... Oh, well, I see what they're talking about. This is something. It looks like a box that you poop in. This is a smart talk. It's exactly, it's a box you poop in. It's amazing this thing. It's a square box with a seat and you poop in it, but it reminds me of Haute Couture. You still have to jiggle the handle no matter what you do.
Starting point is 02:34:48 I would like to get a report from you, from Andrew Horowitz, exactly what has this toilet been discussed on DHL. I don't think it's been discussed on the show but I don't think it's the box. It's just a toilet. Well if you're going to get a toilet you might as well get a designer toilet and that apparently is a square box. It looks like a, yeah, it's just a square box with a hole in the top. Even the lid is square. It's called an outhouse.
Starting point is 02:35:14 Then you go in the backyard. Okay. I have a series of clips on incels. Oh, all right. Which became a topic of conversation on one of the networks. I remember it well. And this is called Black Pill. And I got this bunch of clips, and if you want to hear them and talk about this, because I think this is bogus, they make it sound as though it's a club. We're going to a book now, it's just been published, it's called Black Pill.
Starting point is 02:35:39 Wait, is this the BBC World Service? I won't do the jingle. I won't do the jingle. And it looks at the incel, by which I mean involuntary celibate movement, and draws on interviews with incels around the West. The movement should check out the new smart toilet from Kohler. It's been written by Maeve Park, and the idea is to help explain incels and the culture that creates them and what they believe.
Starting point is 02:36:05 I spoke to Maeve Park earlier and asked first of all just to do a definition of terms as it were, what does the title Blackpilled mean and how does she define the term incel? The term Blackpilled is the name of the ideology we're seeing subscribe to incels. It's a nihilistic worldview with misogyny as well. And the term incel literally means involuntary celibate. However, the term is used within this group of people, mostly congregating online, who subscribed to the beliefs of the black pill. So they can believe in the nihilistic version of life or the misogynistic wrapped into one kind of ideological worldview.
Starting point is 02:36:45 Very bleak, very much about men being suppressed, and very much about if you're not attractive enough, your hope in life is that you don't really have a lot of hope in life. So kind of a fatalistic, catastrophic, nihilistic worldview with misogyny very much attached into it as well. Okay, hold on a second. So you have five clips from the BBC about Blackpill, yet they can't fill three clips with any information about Turkey? Turkey A. Turkey A. They can't even pronounce it right. No, I'm very familiar with Blackpill. This has been a term that's been around. I'm unfamiliar with all this. Well, you should ask the kids at the table.
Starting point is 02:37:26 They're all married. I mean, I don't think any black pillars are around. A lot. You have to have a black pillar in the family, it seems to me. Well, there's a, this is a real thing. I'd never really heard about how it was filled with misogyny though. That's, that's an interesting take. So I'm, I'm excited to hear the rest of your series.
Starting point is 02:37:44 I think I've heard that part. Cause these guys, you know, they can's an interesting take so I'm excited to hear the rest of your series. I think I've heard that part because these guys you know they can't get a date they can't look a girl in the eye. But Black Pill is not necessarily incel. Black Pill as you see no future for the world and you're just... Well according to this woman Black Pill is incels. So age isn't part of the definition? No age is not part of the definition. In the online world for incels, they actually tend to be in their mid-20s and they tend to kind of start around 19. And the oldest incels I've come across online would be in their mid-30s. So there is a kind of a broad age group there as well. And the basic idea is they've never found a girlfriend and they blame the world.
Starting point is 02:38:25 This is the second time this guy's done that. And I don't know that as part of the British accent I never noticed this before but he did it the first clip, he's done it again. What did he do? He says idea. Oh yeah, that's a very, you know, that's a New England thing too. My mom would say idea. What's the idea? It is a derivative. It is a British thing. Idea. There's no R in idea. Idea.
Starting point is 02:38:51 But, you know, BBC also can't seem to say, Turkey-ay, so. Well, that is true. There is that. There as well. And the basic idea is, they've never found a girlfriend and they blame the world for that. Yeah, basic idea is that, yeah, that is true. Yeah, so they believe that because they haven't had any romantic partners or even gone on dates or had any success in that kind of arena,
Starting point is 02:39:15 that they feel that there's something either very much wrong with them or wrong with society and they're kind of taking that out in a very much resentment-built ideology in a very kind of fatalistic manner as well. And that can get violent? It can get violent. We have seen violence coming from this kind of ideology in this worldview and we've seen some mass shootings and mass homicide coming from it. One of the earliest mass shootings was in the 2014, the Isla Vista shooting in California. It was carried out by a young man called Elliot Roger. He was 21 at the time.
Starting point is 02:39:48 And he shot and killed six people, including himself. And then from that, we've also seen other types of violence coming out of the worldview as well. We've seen sexual harassment, stalking, abuse, abuse online. And there has been a wide variety of harms coming out. and then some of the violence that we're seeing is also Suicide as well. Well, this is no laughing matter and there's a lot of data to back up this problem that young men have a very hard time finding a Finding a mate just someone to date
Starting point is 02:40:22 mainly because yes. Well, who would say what you said thing is mainly because, cause I have a mainly because. Well, there's it's the problem is from two sides on the, on the female side. Um, many young girls are only interested in, um, a very, um, successful. So they want influencers, they want money. They want it. They want it. You gotta have money. You gotta show cash. You got a money. And I'm generalizing, but I money, they want it, they want it. You got to have money, you got to show cash, you got to have money. And I'm generalizing, but I think it's true in general. On the young men's side, there's no place for them to go meet girls.
Starting point is 02:40:53 So it's only online. And the only online experience they have is an overabundance of porn. So when they finally meet or have a a date all they can think about is porn And I was talking to the barista here at Java Ranch nice girl She says Adam I can't you know, these are all young kids. I can't find a man to date and I said well What do you mean when you meet them? This horrible all they want is one thing and it's all like aggressive and it's just it's it's horrible So I think that's that's what's going on here. I don't think so. Okay
Starting point is 02:41:30 I mean, I think that's that is the result of the real problem. Okay, when I was a kid here we go Yeah, here we go. Yes When I was getting the second grade the third grade the fourth grade even the first grade I think we were forced to learn different dances. We had to dance with girls. Yes. We were dancing the cha-cha. They would teach us the cha-cha-cha, the rumba, every stupid dance imaginable.
Starting point is 02:41:57 And you had to dance. And square dancing was also a big thing. You had to learn how to do that. And so, by the time you're in the sixth grade, you knew how to at least, you know, step around and you were, oh, you're handling girls because you had to dance with girls. You weren't dancing with guys. And so, and there was always the classes about half and half. So you'd get a, you know, and you'd switch partners and you'd always, you'd be very familiarized. And then by the time you got to high school, they had the sock hop, which I bitch about and moan and groan about constantly.
Starting point is 02:42:25 This is another old thing that's long gone. And the reason for the sock hop was in the gym and he had to wear socks because they didn't want to scratch up the gym floor is the reason for being socks. But they had all these dances and people would stand around and then they picked back. There was, there was forced socialization at the school level when you're a little kid that is disappeared. That is causing all the rest of it. That was John C. DeVorex.
Starting point is 02:42:57 Boomer update. Yeah. Well, there was also something called Cotillion. That was more a southern thing, I something called Cotillion. That was more a southern thing, I think. Cotillion. Same idea. I think you are absolutely right.
Starting point is 02:43:10 Now you have to add to that, that the schools have become exactly the opposite. Oh, oh no, you know, you have to ask permission and you can't look at anyone and it's toxic masculinity and the whole society. You're right. Society is screwed. You're society. You're right. Society is screwed. You're right. You're right. And so these boys they fall into a black hole of gaming and if
Starting point is 02:43:34 they're unlucky they get hypnotized into trans stuff, which was covered on the show. And they go all goth and then they turn into women. It's the whole thing. We're doomed. People were doomed. Home school and get your dance on. Yeah, the homeschooling doesn't do this before socialization quite like real school used to do, but they don't do it anymore, so you might as well homeschool. Let's go to clip three. Now one of the striking things seeing your book was that the people you interviewed were UK,
Starting point is 02:44:08 this is where they were, UK, Canada, USA, Australia, France, Germany. Is this a Western phenomenon? It's not a Western phenomenon but I was going, I was researching the Anglosphere in cell communities which was an interesting finding to see that there were people who came from non-English speaking countries taking part in the English speaking in-south communities. However, we have discovered that there are non-English in-south communities. There are French communities, there are Indian communities, there are South Korean. It spans the world and now we're seeing even some African communities coming up. So it's not just a Western problem
Starting point is 02:44:43 or a Western issue, but we are seeing maybe the Western insult communities being, they're probably the older communities. They have a lot more of the worldview established and they really resonate around the media messages of the West, mostly coming from an American kind of media culture. You know, it's not just from your generation,
Starting point is 02:45:02 but when I was growing up at the Dorps house, I grew up in a small village south of Amsterdam. We had a, like a little community. What do you call that? Where the community comes together as a hall. What do you call it? Community hall? When I was a good back, I just to back that up, we had a boys girls club kind of thing on it was called the community center. It was in a Newark and the community center would have these
Starting point is 02:45:28 dances every Friday and Saturday when you're in grammar school. Well what happened? They had other situations there was the there would dancing with forced dancing because it was a socialization thing and I would say it's forced Yes forced dancing it We never had in cells We didn't have the idea of somebody living with their parents until they're in their 30s because they can't get a date I mean this is all new and it has a lot to do with the lack of Socialization as a young adult as a young no, I didn't know young adult, a kid.
Starting point is 02:46:06 Well, I was going to add to that, that we had, um, once a year there was dance lessons and everybody would sign up for dance lessons and you'd all go there. And that was a version. It wasn't school organized, but it was village organized. Like, Hey, let's get, let's shine up for dance lessons. And everybody did it. You didn't want to be the schmuck that didn't go. And no one could dance. That's why I went to dance lessons.
Starting point is 02:46:30 And it was the same thing. And of course, I didn't go to dance lessons and I became an incel. But then I got on the radio and things changed. You've been married three times. You're not an incel. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, you had to go there. Okay. One word. So do you think this is one of those things that's happening because of the internet? These people like this have always existed, but they've been isolated,
Starting point is 02:46:59 and now they're not. They're part of a group. I would say yes, that is definitely true, and that is why we're seeing kind of a community build around people who couldn't find community. I often say that the incels online are the most exclusive club in a very strange way. They're very clear about who is incel, who is not incel and who would fit in their criteria. However, there are all a bunch of people who did not find community outside of these groups. So in a strange way, they are the outsiders now building a group for themselves online. However, as you said, yes, there have always been people who have been left out, ostracized.
Starting point is 02:47:33 And in cells, not all of them would be misogynistic, not all of them would be violent, many of them are nihilistic, very much self-hating, and would not take their vengeance or resentment out on others. But yes, the internet has allowed for this kind of ideologies to spread around, and people who may not have found these ideologies before to find them, and that's what we're seeing with the internet. You've used the term nihilistic quite a lot, so can you just talk us through that? When you interview one of these young men, how does that manifest itself, that nihilism?
Starting point is 02:48:03 Very much a feeling that nothing will ever work out for me, that there is no hope for me, that I may as well drop out of society. Meaning if you're young, dropping out of university, dropping out of school, not attempting to find a job, not leaving your house, not going outside or having any conversations with anyone, becoming very reclusive. And feeling like that is your kind of fate at a very young age, which is very difficult, but also very damaging for their life, for their sense of well-being.
Starting point is 02:48:33 And I've met many people in their mid 30s who have gone through that in their early 20s and are now kind of seeing the impact of that where they have no social circle, they have no financial, they have no ability to get a job, a salary, and so their situation has become very bleak. They can always become artists for the No Agenda show. Again, we have no explanation for any of this, it's just a phenomenon, which is again, which is your, which is your complaint about the BBC from the earlier clips. Yeah, but you know, you didn't have to stretch it out for eight minutes.
Starting point is 02:49:13 I'm sorry, but we're going to wrap it now. So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in many ways. Complain later. There's no complaining. Let's hold hands and share a secret. So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy in many ways, and very damaging for young people getting involved in that for that reason as well. Always male or sometimes female incels? Interestingly enough, there are some women incels.
Starting point is 02:49:36 There's a group called fem cells. Fem cells? However, there are not as many of them, and incel, the term incel is only male. So only men can call themselves incels according to the communities and according to the people online who define themselves as incel, because the out group for incels are women. So the resentment is there around women and so that's why it's important for them to keep that in only men as well.
Starting point is 02:50:02 You've described that this is a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy and people in their mid-30s can get into a very bad situation because they've had this thinking in their 20s. Are there people who are incels who get out of it, you know, and they find relationships and they move on? Well yeah, well that's always the hope and I speak about it in the book how a couple of the interviewees I met, so I was interviewing them for over a year, and during that time a couple of them found ways out of the ideology or out of their situation. One of the best success stories was a man in his later 20s returning to university after initially dropping out in his early 30s in the UK.
Starting point is 02:50:40 And that has kind of given him a new lease in life, a new goal, a new feeling of self-esteem. And he's having a good time enjoying it and finding people through it as well. So that was a success story in itself. Other times some incels can just leave because they find potentially a partner or friendships. But we have to be very careful about when we talk about whether a relationship is your way out.
Starting point is 02:51:03 A lot of incels will believe, if I find a girlfriend, I'll leave the ideology. But the evidence is showing that sometimes when that happens, the ideology doesn't go away. You don't become less misogynistic or less nihilistic just because you have a date or had a short-term relationship or a girlfriend that doesn't solve the problem. Well, I think this is self-correcting. We're seeing it already. I mean, this is really a millennial problem. Sorry, Gen Z, yeah,
Starting point is 02:51:30 no millennial problem, younger millennial problem. The older millennials were just close enough to Gen X that they kind of, you know, they got a clue. And I'm seeing Gen Z. Gen Z is kind of rebelling against technology, rebelling a bit against
Starting point is 02:51:45 the phone stuff. They're playing chess, they're going out, they're doing other things, they are getting together in groups. I think it's self-correcting. It just gives the BBC another opportunity to fill 10 minutes of airtime with dreck. It might be self-correcting, but the problem still exists that the schools are not doing their jobs and socializing the kids properly. And until they start doing that, which you're not going to do the way they're going about things.
Starting point is 02:52:14 No, but the schools are complicit in transing children and putting odd books in the library and then highlighting it by putting by lock and key. The schools are the problem. The schools are the problem. Always. The schools are the problem. There it is. And that's why we need to dissolve the Department of Education, give it back to the states, and Texas will be number one, baby, phone finger.
Starting point is 02:52:35 Texas is one of the states, along with a lot of the states, that is like they always bitch about California doing this. California is a Johnny come lately when it comes to not telling the parents that your kids trans is going trans. Yeah. Texas is one of those states. Really? Yep. Well. How does that work? I don't know. I don't know. I was not aware of this. How do you get Jasmine Crockett? Good point. Alright, I'll, I need to add a new word to our vocabulary as the Oxford Dictionary has added it. So that means, besides saying Turquay properly, we now have a new one.
Starting point is 02:53:16 Let's talk. Because the English language is changing. The folks behind the Oxford English Dictionary added dozens of new words to its pages this week. The new entries include many of Spanish origin like Cubano, referring to anything Cuban from individuals to the famous sandwiches. Also in there, slang phrases such as real talk, meaning honest and direct conversations. And British slang like the word faffy, as in overcomplicated and time consuming. Faffy, faffy, F-A-F-F-Y, faffy?
Starting point is 02:53:49 Yes, faffy, yes, faffy. I've never heard that. I use Cubano coincidentally in the show today. When you're talking about somebody, a person of Cuban origin, you call them a Cubano. No, I was referring to the cigar. Cigar, cigar. But faffy, F-A-Ff-f-y I've never heard this phrase it was new to me it was new to me it was new to me it sounds like they're
Starting point is 02:54:10 just throwing it in for no good reason well it's amazing you can say anything in public in the United Kingdom man did you hear about the whatsapp thing this was interesting some parents got arrested for posting something in a private group on WhatsApp. Six police officers came to my house and arrested me. Why? Because I've been talking about my daughter's school on a WhatsApp group. It was the morning of Wednesday the 29th of January, about a quarter to 12. I was on a Zoom call for a work project.
Starting point is 02:54:40 When on my Zoom screen, in the little window where I saw my own face, I realized that two police officers were standing behind me. Another two police officers were arresting my partner Rosalind in front of Francesca, our three-year-old daughter. They bundled us into the police cars and took us off the custody at Stevenage police station where we remain for the next 12 hours. He arrested me on suspicion of harassment and malicious communications and was to do with a dispute with our daughter's primary school which began with posts on a WhatsApp group. Are you interested to hear what horrible things they did in the WhatsApp group?
Starting point is 02:55:18 You know, this has been going on now for some time in England and it's discouraging and you have to wonder you know about the mentality of the police who are enforcing these laws they seem to be doing with some relish which I find disturbing. They enjoy it. The beat's going after people with guns and zombie knives. I mean hey, might as well take the squad down and arrest these two parents. On the 23rd of November, 2023, the head teacher of my daughter's primary school announced he would retire.
Starting point is 02:55:54 But what seemed strange to me was the board of governors decided immediately to appoint the deputy head as acting head 10 months later without even advertising the job. So I made some enquiries. I contacted the chair of governors in private and in good faith and asked her to explain what a rationale was and what was going to happen. Her response, in my opinion, was rather evasive. So I asked again and I wrote to all the governors asking them to explain what was happening and why they decided to do that. I posted that letter in a WhatsApp
Starting point is 02:56:31 group. It's a private parent's WhatsApp group. On that WhatsApp group, like most parents, we chunted about a few things. One thing we talked about on that group was a letter from the school commanding all parents not to talk about the school on Facebook or social media or WhatsApp groups. We thought that was a bit off. My partner Rosalind made a handful of vaguely spicy comments. She referred to one school leader as a control freak. She said the chair of governors didn't know much about anything.
Starting point is 02:57:03 Out of the blue, on the 12th of July last year, the chair of governors wrote to Rosalind and me. She accused us of posting disparaging and inflammatory comments on WhatsApp and Facebook. Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Yeah, thought crimes. You can't do anything anymore in the UK. And you can't even say you have a wife, you have to call it your partner. I never understood that. They never say my wife, they say my partner. Maybe they're not married. No, they're married. They're married. They're married and they're calling her the partner?
Starting point is 02:57:38 It's a very standard thing in the UK and Australia as well. It's a bit of a woke thing. Because I don't want to see my wife. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah. That'd be fab. Well, what are the odds? My partner here is going to read off the supporters, financial supporters who sent us back value
Starting point is 02:58:10 in our value for value model, $50 and above. Remember we do have John's tip of the day coming up, some kick ass mixes from the clip custodian and David Kekta and some real ISOs to end the show with along with the nice meet up reports and more to come. So John, take it away. My partner. Sure. Partner. to end the show with along with the nice meetup reports and more to come so John take it away my partner sure partner sure partner Sean Sean Holman maybe a relation that no bills will noblesville Indiana 148 48 and this is I thought was interesting it's calling out DNice as a juice bag. Juice bag. Juice bag.
Starting point is 02:58:45 We got a juice bag for that. Juice bag. I don't know what that is. Sir Beboop 1111. 1111. He's the knight of the frozen tundra. Jennifer, what do you think? Fivy?
Starting point is 02:59:04 Fivy? Fivy. Yeah, Fivy? Fivy? Fivy, yeah, Fivy, Fivy. A Fiver, a Fivy, a Fivy. In Calgary, Alberta, I have to read this note. It says in Calgary, $100.33. We love you guys up here in Scandinavia. So there you go. Huh?
Starting point is 02:59:21 Yeah. Can we get some IVF baby-making karma for our daughter and her husband? Let's do it right away. Let's not delay. You've got... ...karma. Remember, you gotta name the kid after us. Yep. It's gotta be one. That's the rule. That's the rule.
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Starting point is 03:05:55 They're happening all around the world almost every single day of the week. Apparently we had a couple of problems with the no agenda meetups.com website. I know Sir Daniel is working on that. Uh, but we do believe we have a complete lineup for you. But first we have some reports. This is the 61st meetup from the Flight of the NoAgendas, Leo Bravo, always taking care of that somewhere in California. Hey everybody, it's Leo Bravo at meetup number 61.
Starting point is 03:06:21 I'm passing the phone around. My friends have things to say. This is Toast, ITM. Sir Toast. This is Jim, new to Fullerton. I'm passing the phone around. My friends have things to say. This is Toast, ITM, Sir Toast. This is Jim, new to Fullerton. But I'm here. Dot, enjoyed your meeting. Dame's fire friends. Train's good, planes next time.
Starting point is 03:06:35 Hey John and Adam, Sir Leach and Faux Pop just checking to see if code Bongino still works. Yep. Jim Betis, 810-4 to all these nice people. In the morning, answer the question, go. Steven of the Orange Curtain. John, you'd be interested to know there are very many young foamers here at the Fullerton train station. In the morning, this is Angie from the Ranch having a great time at the Fullerton meetup.
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Starting point is 03:08:34 Live from Indy, in this moment. We'll fix it in toast. Not one but two servers in the report. I love those guys. Thank you, Indiana. Indie meetup. Those guys are good. We got to Zolinski finally came up. He finally showed up. I can't believe he's putting tariffs on hookers. That guy. There is a meetup underway. The TMI evac zone crossword puzzle meetup. It started at 330 at Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania. I'm sure they're still going strong. Tomorrow, April Fool's Day, meetup, not for fools, at 5.30, that'll be at Barley's in downtown Knoxville, Tennessee. Also on April Fool's Day, Springfield, Missouri,
Starting point is 03:09:15 ain't no fool meetup, see, there's a theme here, six o'clock at Bears All-American Sports Bar and Grill in Springfield, Missouri. Then on Thursday, ooh, nothing on Liberation Day. Oh, what a missed opportunity. On Thursday, our next show day, the No Agenda New York City Meetup. Yes, there are still normal people in New York City. Five o'clock at the perfect pint west in New York City, New York, New York.
Starting point is 03:09:36 And finally, also on the third Thursday, Northern Wake Publical Slave Gathering. That'll be at six o'clock at Hoppe Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina. Many more meetups to come, including Osaka, Japan on April 5th. Make sure you check that one out. I know there was a big meetup in the lowlands. I got pictures and everyone's having a good time, so I expect a meetup report from them, which is usually quite inebriated. We love the meetup reports. We love the Meetups. They are producer organized. You get out of it what you put into it. Go to NoAgendaMeetups.com. Guaranteed though, you will always made a mistake.
Starting point is 03:10:37 Of course, tomorrow is not the first, but Tuesday is the first. And that was incorrect in my crib sheet. There's a 31st day of March. So yes, that was my mistake. Kind of. I should have known better. Where's my partner? Where's my partner correcting me?
Starting point is 03:10:57 But I said Monday the first. It's yeah. Yeah, that was a mistake. Yeah. All right Alright, ISO time. I've got three. They're real. They're not AI generated. Let's see how we do.
Starting point is 03:11:10 I think there's some real evil out there. Okay, no, delete that one. How about this? There's a good side and there's a dark side, just like Star Wars. Too long kind of. How about this one? I think you like this one. You guys are freaks. How about this one? I think you'll like this one. You guys are freaks.
Starting point is 03:11:25 How about that? That's pretty good. There's nothing very complimentary about the show. Oh, you would think... How about just fun and humor? No, no good. Okay. So what are your AI generated ISOs? My AI generated, I got two. Any better? The show can't be any better than that. Yeah, how can I beat that? Where's the yo yo yo what's up?
Starting point is 03:11:52 I'm still working on it. Mimi's actually working on it too and she can't. It's not as easy as it looks. Can some of our hip hop trolls just send me a yo yo yo what's up so I can just get this off our... What up? What up? Yeah so I can just get this off our place. What up? What up? Yeah, so we can get this off our place, please.
Starting point is 03:12:09 Great show is the other one. Great show, boys. Yeah, I think this is obviously complimentary. The show can't be any better than that. I mean, we just have to go with that. It's kind of self-serving and kind of pathetic because it's AI. Yeah, self-serving and kind of pathetic because it's AI. Self-serving, yeah. Not pathetic. There it is. The result of... Yes?
Starting point is 03:12:29 Bob, you're saying it's not pathetic. You're saying it's pathetic because it's AI-generated. It is the result of a $100 billion per company. Well, hey, think about the money we saved. There you go. And now, ladies and gentlemen, not AI. It is John's tip of the day I don't want it. I'm gonna do an off-handed tip of the day That's not the tip of the day just such just a suggestion for people like this shop at Costco. Hmm the grass-fed suggestion for people like the shop at Costco. The grass fed butter in the green packaging. Yes. Tina loves that stuff.
Starting point is 03:13:12 Is excellent. Yes. It's, I think it's as good as the imported butters. It, yeah. She loves that stuff. In fact, all the carnivores love that stuff. They just eat it out of the pack. It's a great product. Carnivores, man, the carnivores love that stuff. They just eat it out of the pack. It's a great product.
Starting point is 03:13:27 Carnivores, man, the carnivore diet is like they eat butter like a stick. Yeah, there's a piece of, I got a butter popsicle. That's pretty much it. That's your entire tip? That's it? No, that's not, that's just a side tip. Side tip, side tip of the day. Okay. Sorry. Perfect Glass. I'm telling you this company, Hope's, this is a cleaning product again,
Starting point is 03:13:52 a cleaning product company, but I'm telling you, Hope's, perfect line of cleaners, and there's a bunch of them. Perfect Glass is the one I'm going to mention here, but there's also Perfect Sink, which is a stunner. Perfect Sink, Hope's is the one I'm going to mention here, but there's also Perfect Sink, which is a stunner. Perfect Sink, well, Hope's is the brand, a very advanced product. They're using, I don't know what tech they're using, but they can polish stainless steel sinks with this Hope's Perfect Sink. You wouldn't believe what you end up with it stainless steel the funny thing about stainless steel is stainless steel
Starting point is 03:14:27 stains and Stainless steel stains easily. Yes, and this is for stainless steel sinks Not the perfect glasses for windows. Okay. Yeah, perfect Sink is for stainless steel sinks, but they also have a stainless steel perfect stainless steel for other appliances that are made out of stainless steel. Wow. But the hopes the entire hopes line of cleaning products is world-class and for example the perfect glass is not like Windex which you know Windex it's like they've been coasting for years on their ammonia base. It's no good. Windex you know Windex here in Texas
Starting point is 03:15:08 all the the Mexicans use Windex for everything. You gotta scrape Windex. It's got a lot of ammonia in it, it does clean. You gotta cut Windex. But for glass, it doesn't clean well, it doesn't really do the trick. Hope's, I'm going to get some. Tina is always complaining about the glass, always. Well then she'll love Perfect Glass. Perfect Glass from Hope's.
Starting point is 03:15:26 Hope's perfect glass. I am, do they have it for toilet bowls? Well, they already did the toilet bowl one with Lysol. Oh, that's right. I thought maybe it was a competing product. I am not doing any more toilet bowl stuff. Actually, I talked to Mimi about these suggestions. She had another toilet bowl suggestion.
Starting point is 03:15:44 What is Mimi's? Mimi, get your head She had another toilet bowl suggestion. What is Mimi's Mimi? Get your head out of the toilet bowl. We got to stop this. These are serious tips of the day. Check it out. A tip of the day that no agenda fun dot com. Just the tip with JCP. And sometimes created by Dana Bernetti.
Starting point is 03:16:04 Wow. But these are good tips. I mean, we actually wind up buying some of this stuff because we trust you. You're a trustworthy guy. I am. I'm very trustworthy. I wanted to do a series of books called Honest John. Ha ha ha!
Starting point is 03:16:22 Right after the Podfather Awards, The Microphone Company, The Vinegar Book and many other great things. You know what? Why don't we just do another show on Thursday? Why don't we try that? There's an idea. Let's do that.
Starting point is 03:16:34 At least we can get that done. We can get that produced. Thank you to everybody who helps produce this show monetarily and otherwise. It is all highly valued and highly appreciated. Coming up next on the No Agenda Stream or in your modern podcast app, Random Thoughts, that's another good show. All of these shows are good and No Agenda Stream has just got great shows. Also excellent and outstanding end of show mixes from David Kekta and the clip custodian
Starting point is 03:17:00 Neil Jones checks in with a doubleheader. Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in Feman Region Number 6. For as long as people understand what that means. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you on Thursday, that will be April 3rd. Please join us then and remember us
Starting point is 03:17:24 at NoAgendaDonations.com. Until then, adios mo foes a hui hui and circle round from the revelation senior Trump administration officials somehow added a journalist to a signal group chat which they discussed secret plans for military strikes in Yemen it's interesting because a lot of your thinking as expressed by your public statements is deeply infused with economic and cultural Marxism. Do you believe that America is addicted to white supremacy? Um, um, um, much of my thinking has evolved over the last half day.
Starting point is 03:17:59 I've evolved as a human being because of've been sitting over the last half a game. I know this isn't that a great one. You mean five years. I'm a philologist. I don't recall that I died. No doubt that there's a character in there that I don't recall. The white people in here really feel superior to other races. This is great. The wheels on the Omnibus go round and round, round and round, round and round. The wheels on the Omnibus go round round and round with all the EU clowns. I would argue that the new Jesus Christ of our era are Steve Jobs and Elon Musk.
Starting point is 03:18:51 That's not true. He's incompetent. Elon Musk, aka real life Iron Man. He's a Nazi. He's a thief. An immigrant to this country cemented his status. He's a Nazi. He's a Nazi. Musk is doing things that may revolutionize transportation and climate change. That's not true. When somebody as staggeringly rich and staggeringly intelligent as Elon Musk talks, people listen. He's incompetent, he's a thief, he's a Nazi, Nazi. As a leader in science and technology whose name may indeed belong alongside
Starting point is 03:19:34 those of Edison and Jobs. Elon Musk is incompetent in his position. Put another way, Elon Musk today showed the world how it's done. You play the video of a town hall as though it's evidence of some broad anger that's out there, and it's not. We are mobilizing in New York. We have people going to the Republican districts. You just said you're organizing town halls in red districts. Going after these Republicans
Starting point is 03:20:11 who are voting for this. You don't actually have to wait for them. You can't hold that town hall. They organize, they get loud, they get viral moments. You schedule it, you invite them. If they come, that's great. But if they don't come, have an empty chair. Hundreds of Hoosiers gathered today at the downtown library for an empty chair town hall. Sorry, our party is not going to work tonight. This is a long, relentless fight that we fight every day. And I am confident that we will bring Trump's popularity, numbers and strength down. What we're seeing when we do this is that these are sold out. People want to come.
Starting point is 03:20:53 People want to be involved in the process right now. Our party is not that organized. You too. Organized town halls. The best podcast in the universe. Adios, mofo. The show can't be any better than that.

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