No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 122: WGC-Mexico Championship Wrap Up with D.J. Piehowski

Episode Date: March 5, 2018

D.J. Pie joins to talk about everything from Phil’s dramatic win at the WGC-Mexico Championship. This was a really fun weekend of golf, and we talk about all of Phil’s antics for the week, JT’s... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 122: WGC-Mexico Championship Wrap Up with D.J. Piehowski appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to be the right club today. Yes! That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Expect anything different! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No-Langout podcast. Kind of an emergency pod tonight. Emergency pod.

It was too good. Yeah. The golf was too good. We of course wrapped it in a line. I went home and we came back. Yes, pretty much. We are kind of trying to transition wrap up of events to our live show, which if you guys haven't seen yet, it's live on Twitter as soon as the live.

As soon as the cover gins, but for the big events we're going to of course recap them on the podcast. But yeah, the replays of those live shows are available on Periscope and on Twitter. We may rehash crossover some takes, and they may be kind of similar, but it's not possible for us to just take the audio from the live show and put it on the feed which a lot of people have suggested but Having said all that DJ Pi had a nice little break for dinner and we're back and ready to get back to it. Yeah, the Anvenitos Okay, so we had some trouble with the lot audio on the live show But we got my my welcoming from the starter. We did yeah, you came in really hot We need that starter to follow us around everywhere. I love that guy.

Absolutely. Yeah, we need to. W. Would you see Mexico champion chip? Field Mikkelson. Man, that's fun. Is it to go to Mexico, by the way, this week? I had such a blast watching this tournament. Oh, I mean, this was like a great, I mean, not even just

PGA tour golf. It's a weird week because there's no opposite event, an opposite field event this week, because of Puerto Rico and the hurricane there. The European Tour is in South Africa, so like some guys just don't even have anywhere to play this week. If you really, you know, like the web tour is not active this week,

but man, all of the tournaments that actually were played this week, do they deliver? Oh, it's phenomenal. I'm fired up, man. I can't remember the last, I was thinking up, man. I can't remember the last, I was thinking about today. I don't know the last time I had a week like this. I was so excited to watch golf today.

You got here a little early today. Yeah, I did. I was so pumped. I was gonna maybe play golf this morning that was like, I don't think I can. Like this is too good, but lead to board. This is the tournament we've been waiting for. And the thing we've probably said

five different times, like this event feels like the start of the Puget Tour season this one actually Kind of did like a game was like the first really really exciting And there's been the eight playoffs already this year, but this one was different There's like 45 events already this is that's also accurate, but Fill and JT in a playoff Tiro Hatten was very close to making the playoff as well JT holding a shot on the 72nd very close to making the playoff as well. JT, holding a shot on the 72nd hold, making the playoff.

Phil, birding 15 and 16 to get into the playoff as well. I think how many moments from this week alone are going to make Sarsons like year end 2018 moments? It might be like eight. For real, yeah, I mean, God, there might be eight just from today. I mean, it was like, it was just insane to watch down the stretch. I think I've been obsessed, I'm sure you have to,

and everybody else has with this whole idea that eventually maybe if we're lucky, we'll get a tiger versus one of the guys from this new generation in a playoff or something. And obviously it wasn't tiger, but that's what it felt like to me today was the second best thing you could ask for. Totally, and it was watching, it's been such a transition period over the last, and Tiger, but that's what it felt like to me today was the second best thing you could ask for. Totally.

And it was watching, you know, it's been such a transition period over the last, I don't know, four to five, six years, something like that between kind of the Tiger Phil Ernie VJ generation and now, you know, Jordan Justin Rory, all those guys. And this was the biggest clash I can remember for sure of those two generations. And God, it was so, just so fun to watch. Phil is almost quite literally double JT's age. He's like 40, almost 48. Yeah, and JT's 24 I think, maybe 25. Yeah.

And the most. I would have loved to have seen if it was Phil against like Rory, like what kind of that gamesmanship kind of would have been like. Yeah, it seemed pretty cordial. It was pretty, yeah, it was pretty chummy, but not as chummy as Phil was with the CEO. Walking down the fairway,

the only playoff hole, the first playoff hole. So let me ask you, have you always... Just think about that real quick, just juxtaposing, you know, you had... He was playing with Sharma, the 21-year-old kid from India, playing his first tour event. Try not to say his first name, or were you...

Sharmainkur. Uh, yeah. I just don't know how to say I know exactly I'm gonna remove myself from the situation Sharma was out there and he you know Understandably nervous slow start blah blah blah fills in a playoff hasn't played in a playoff And what did you say like 13 years? Yes, there's something one a playoff in 13 years But he's out there literally walking down the fairway with his arm around the CEO, you know, running the tournament. I mean, it was just insane.

It was maybe peak fill, honestly. It might have been a week full of potential peak fill moments that could have been it. Oh, he got a lot of moments. But first I want to ask, are you, have you always been a a Phil fan? I got it, polls for Phil or is, or is, or do you pull for Phil kind of more in his later years

than in prior years? Undoubtedly, I pull for more now than I ever have. I don't know. How do you make content? No, that's not. That might be part of it. But I don't know what it is. I think, you know, when I was younger and following golf,

I think I had kind of the same complaints that, you know, a lot of people probably say, definitely a lot of people who, you know, don't go to a lot of tournaments and don't hear him interacting with people. And he can come across, of course, you know, fake or or superficial or, you know, there's no way anybody can be that happy all the time and the thumbs up, blah, blah, blah. I have completely 180ed. Based nothing, I've never met him. I've never really talked to him or anything, but just seeing, hearing stories about him and seeing the way he interacts, I mean, I think he is completely just leaned into this persona

that he's created for himself, where I think honestly, I think the way to explain it is, I think he's just kind of bored, but I think he's just done everything that there is to do and golf. he's met everybody, he's one almost everything except the open. And I think now he just is trying to keep himself active and engaged and it's by doing all these crazy weird things that just keep happening. It's just there's too many things for it to be coincidence

for him to not be just leaning into it. Today, like when he goes out, he's going out and has to see the camera there. The camera couldn't be more in the way. The fans are asking for autographs and he turns and says in Spanish, like, I'm not going to sign never, never before is what he says. Nuneca antes, like, never before the round. I will sign after the round, but like, it's clearly playing it up. And we, that's what I mean.

What a perfect example. There's like, we need to go through and rank the best film moments from this week alone, because there's legitimately might be 10 good ones. Well, they're, I mean, I'm trying to think I've heard a million stories like that. And it's hard to share because you never know, you know, they're all secondhand. You never know which ones are true, which ones aren't. But the one that I've seen for myself, like with my own eyes, was at the president's cup. I think it was that memorial.

They were doing team photos. And all the players were kind of pissed because the hats that were part of the team uniform, were kind of, you know, if you picture like the hats tour players wear, they wear the big structure, you know, kind of tour. Maximizing the space. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah know, kind of tour. Maximizing the space. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's stuff like that. And the uniform hats were kind of the hats kind of like we wear kind of floppy, you know, unstructured with a small logo on the front.

And the players were not feeling it. Just so you can hear him talking to Fred couples was a captain. You can hear him, you know, before the round or before the picture. Pictures. Yeah, you can hear him talking about, you know, what are these hats? I don't know. These feel weird. I'm not used to these. Phil rolls up with a hat that looks identical from far away. You could never tell that it was different. But it was a big kind of structured, fitted hat like he would wear every other week. And so one of the players finally notices it, all they're taking pictures, is like Phil,

how come he, they all sound like kind of little kids. How come Phil gets that hat? Phil, where'd you get that hat? He goes, oh, no, I just went to the merchandise tent. And bought it. Yeah, he's like, I was looking, I thought it looked pretty much the same. So I'm just gonna wear this one.

And all the players go into mutiny, and they're like, well, no, I feel gets that hat that I wanna wear that hat. I'll give it a hint. And Fred Couples is trying to calm everyone down. He's, guys, guys, don't worry. We're gonna get the hats taken care of. It's gonna be fine.

And that to me is like, again, such a moment where I think a lot of people would look at it and be like, oh my gosh, what a pre-Madonna. I look at it, I'm like, what a comedic genius. Like that's, what a pointless thing that nobody should care about. And he just throws it up into this hilarious, like troll job basically.

And he's quickly become my favorite player for that reason. Do you think they charge him in the merchandise tent for that? I don't know, he probably tipped well in the merchandise tent from all the other stories. That's fantastic. What a great microcosm of the presence cup, too. Like, that worried about hats instead of the international scene. Exactly.

I don't think that happens at the writer couple level. But, all right. So, I think that was the same week by the way that he turned to the camera and did the way. And it was like, yeah, you guys are going to want to watch this. Well, this is going to be pretty good. He tried to skip it over the water. That's right. And that's the kind of stuff I'm thinking to myself. Like, man, he's are gonna want to watch this. Well, this is gonna be pretty good. He tried to skip it over the water. That's right.

And that's the kind of stuff where I'm thinking to myself, like, man, he's just, he's done it all. He's just trying to keep himself interested. That was the same week as the, the gift of him spanking Keegan Bradley on the, yeah. Yeah. Um, I think they mentioned on the broadcast this week about, um, how Sharma came up to fill and introduced himself

and Phil thought he was media. It is pretty funny, I'm not gonna lie. I'm so funny, God, that was a good one. I can't believe the broadcast for beating that one up. That's pretty good. That was good. We talked about this. Even a moment like that, I have to kind of think,

I'm like, well, now he's got me so far inside my own head. I'm like, man, was Phil, was he trolling or was he being serious? I don't think he would do that to him. He would maybe do that to like, he asked Tyrell Hatten how to pronounce his name. Who was ranked fair? Which is like number 16 in the world.

But it's still fair. Like Tyrell. Tyrell is like just like a British accent on it, Tyrell. I don't, that's a kind of a stereotype. I guess. Yeah, I guess they've never really met. But yes, Hatten has lower ranked in the world than Phil is. And he filled in not a pronounciation name was pretty great. He went into a bush to

hit a ball today. It is out. Was it the same bush as last year? It might have been. I thought it was the same hole. I think I said last year if Phyll ever writes a book and he's be titled, three hundred thirty eight yards to unknown. And I think it was the same place that hits it out of there. We can't forget that last year when he was in that bush, he took sprinkler relief, right? That's right. Oh, which again, they called, and NBC was all over that. Totally.

They called that. We're gonna talk about NBC, which Stellar weakened for them. Big shout out to NBC. Seriously. And then hit it out of the woods and hit a fan and was mad that the fan was standing there. Like, he knew the fans were standing there, but he didn't clear all of them out. And then he's kind of pissed getting ready to play the next shot and it's just motioning

for fans to get out of the way. He's saying sort of. Mochow, mochow. Like, his broken Spanish is so perfect. Like I don't think that's the right word to use in this situation, but he's just waving and yelling, mochow, mochow at them. And there's plenty of people, like plenty of interpreters there

to help translate if need be. He wants to show off his Spanish. Man, what else do you have from, what else do you remember him from today? I mean, the putt on 16, the title of 16. The title of 16. He's phenomenal. He actually kind of ruined the JT moment for us here

in the kill house because he had a shot that, you know, the great camera angle from NBC right behind him showing, like he's hitting it into a tree. We watched the slow-mo replay. I still don't understand where he hit it. So we, we rewound and we're watching it in slow-mo of the slow-mo, trying to watch this ball clear

and then like we saw Twitter going absolutely apeshit and slowly cut up and JT just dunked it on the semi-signal. I think shots like that were a good reminder. It kind of made me feel like when we were watching Bubba at Riviera a couple weeks ago when you're just thinking to yourself, man, I just missed this so much. This is so fun to watch. And yeah, shots like that over the tree under another tree.

I'm going to punch it under this branch, then it's gonna rise and get over this branch. I mean, that's the stuff that just, that's what makes it worthwhile for me. It's so good too to just have the narrative gone of him not having won. And now it's totally different when he's gonna be back in contention.

And it's, you know, I don't know if that frees him up to be a little more reckless down the stretch or whatnot. But if he would have lost, it would have been, again, it would have been the perfect fill loss. Yeah, you know, it would have been about on 17 that he had, was it? The birdie, what was the long birdie putty had that barely looked up? Oh, yeah. But there was that one.

But then also just, I mean, somebody holding a shot from the fairway to beat him. You know, that's a agree. How full is that? He also took over for slugger white and just was the rules official for Sharma on like instructing him on a drop. Like I'm pretty sure it was like, how about a call rules official? Oh, you could definitely do that.

And Phil just comes over and instructs him on how to drop it. And then I don't know if you saw this yet in the press conference afterward, Ferguson, Doug Ferguson asks him if he thinks he's gonna get to 50 wins and Phil doesn't let him finish the questions. Oh, I'll get there.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I'll get there. But that could be like when he, you know, the Euro betting thing where, you know, he could be including like member guests or something like that. Maybe he could be setting someone up for a sucker bet there. Could be some crooked scoring there.

Do you think he gets to 50 wins? That's a lot. Seven more. That's a bold claim to just like flippantly say at 47, I'm going to win seven more times. But it's also one of those things that nobody's going to follow up on. Or care if he doesn't come up. So what's he supposed to say? I mean, seven wins going for that's like JT's career to now, I think. Maybe as eight, I think you might have eight. That's like JT's career to now, I think. NVSA, I think. I think he might have eight.

That's a lot of wins. That's a ton of wins. I know he's 143 times, but that kind of shifts the scale, but that's a lot. I would be surprised if he got to 50. How, I always kind of hesitate to bring up questions like this because I always feel like there's logic I'm not thinking about and things make more sense than they seem, but how about him winning on this golf course, too?

Where it seems like you have to hit it dead straight. What is this golf course fit? I don't understand it to you. No, I think it equally doesn't fit everybody. It makes sense. I think everybody's so uncomfortable on it that anybody can win. I'm surprised there's not more complaining about the course from the players. Yeah, I don't know. We'll get to the call for you. Yeah, let's talk first. JT's hole out.

I'm struggling to kind of think of a better non-major 70 second hole. Shout out to Craig Perry. Shot that I've seen like live in my lifetime. Craig Perry was in the playoff though, wasn't it? Yeah, all right Peter Rale. I think Justin Ray had the staff that no one had ever hold out from Eagle on a par four

since in the shot link era to win a turn. Man, I'm trying to think. I mean, it's, yeah. You didn't win, but. Man. That was, I mean, but are we gonna end up forgetting about this because he didn't win? I think it's kind of a risk of that.

I think totally. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of a risk of that. I think totally. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of, you had to get the best case scenario for forgetting about it as far as fill winning. I mean, yeah, I mean, nobody's gonna, you know, when you're looking at fill winning at 47 and eight months or whatever it is,

breaking his drought, I mean, yeah, it's, I think if Terrell Hatton wins, then maybe we remember it a little bit more, but wasn't the case. She almost did. Yeah, he almost did. JT team bad pretty uh, spike mark or bump. Oh, it's ballmark. I don't know what that was. Yeah, Poah. People were saying the Poah was coming up and that wasn't a spike. I don't know, but his putt on 18 hit something almost immediately and went straight up in the air and didn't get there. It was, he is the most dramatic ever with Spike Mark Williams. I'm in. He had one of the Honda last year that I still think about. But I like Hadin' To.

I think he's, I've met him briefly. He's a really nice guy. And I think his antics kind of entertain me more than they do bother me. I don't know, that stuff doesn't, the more characters we can have, the better. Yeah, come on. That guy's, yeah.

His, it also kind of sticks with me in the awkward reporter video. Like I forget what the awkward reporter, the European tour video that went pretty viral last year. I forget what the reporter did to him, but his reaction afterward was just like genuine shock of feeling of awkwardness for the reporter. Like I can't believe that guy just did that. Maybe that way is obvious, but that guy had a really good time with that.

JT seemed pretty like okay with the result. I didn't didn't seem too bothered. He wasn't supposed to be there at all. He's one what? Like seven of 32 events. Yeah, I think he'll be okay. But he was 11 shots back going into the weekend, shot 62, 64. And I think he may have missed the cut

if it was a normal event. That's probably makes into a playoff. It's pretty remarkable. There's a, there's a lot of, there's a lot of bottom, bottom fat at these events typically. There is a lot of guys to check out pretty early. There is. Are we, is it about Phil's putting, by the way. I feel like, I mean, he was what? Fourth. Fourth this week in Strogs Cane Pudding. And there were so many puts that I mean,

that, you know, thankfully there are no tapes of all the things I was saying to you while we were watching the broadcast. But these are the ones he misses. These are the ones he misses. And he made all of them. I mean, he was, I think led the field in scrambling or second in scrambling up and down 18 for 22. I mean, it was, it was awesome.

And that's the difference. I mean, those are the rounds. It seems like when he really gets a lot of momentum going, that's what kills it. Is he misses a four-chorey? Or he misses a five-footer, he misses, you know, whatever. And he just made all those this week. And he's made all of them pretty much.

I mean, the last couple weeks too. I was, you know, I feel like he's gotten better at those over the course of his career. It felt like in the early 2000s and like mid 2000s, you know, aside, I mean, he won a bunch of majors there between, you know, 05, 0405 and 06. But that he always had that three footer that he missed and then would maybe even miss the comeback.

Or like that, just that horrible meltdowndown but I feel so much better when he stands over a short putt now. It's almost like when guys hit that period in their career where age just kind of catches up to him and their putting goes. Right. It's almost like fill is post-age at this point. He had a really good putting year last year if I remember right too. Well that's, I don't know, it's pretty good time.

More fill is good for everybody. I think it answers a lot of Ryder Cup questions this win. I mean, the year he's never needed the captain's bill. Next topic. Yeah, seriously. You know, it's, play it. Not only that, but him. 20-20 France is gonna be, oh god, it's gonna be the best.

He's gonna be speaking French to people, 100%. Yes. We need to, Phil needs to come out with kind of like Rosetta Stone for kind of half-ass learning of another language. Franklish. Yeah, but you know, you only need, Rosetta Stone, if you only need like four sentences

to say, Mucho. In case you couldn't tell, that was a hell of a Sunday for Callaway and that was probably an understatement. It started with Callaway staff or Michelle Wees incredible round, 65 to win the LPGA HSBC Women's World Championship in Singapore in dramatic fashion. We're going to talk a bit about

that a bit more later in the show, capped off by obviously by Phil's playoff win at the WGC Mexico Championship. Both Phil and Michelle are cruising to victories with full bags of Callaway clubs both gaming the Rogue or Rogue sub-zero driver and fairway woods. Phil even has a Rogue Hybrid. I saw him use that. X-Forge Irons, Odyssey Pudders, and Graphene infused ChromeSoft X golf balls. And add that to the huge multi-month signing of Club Pro Guy for Callaway's Strader brand.

It's proof that it's set up to be a monster year for Team Callaway for more details and specs on Phil and Michelle's winning bags. Visit CallawayGolf.com today. Let's get back to DJ Pi. Is it fair to ask if JT is the best player in the world right now? I mean, yeah, it's definitely fair to ask. I don't know what the answer is. I mean, as Toronto tell you, just to finish the greatest player of all time. So a lot of people are having. Well, it depends what your range is, right? You know, if your range is the last two months, then yeah, it's not even close. People have some qualms about the official world golf rankings, how it's JT-1, seven of his last 32 events, and not the number one player in the world. It's like, well, Dustin's also won like five events the last like 55 weeks or something

that are all pretty big. Yeah. Yes, me. Great fields. I mean, I don't know. I don't get to hung up over like number one versus number two versus number four. It's not really what the rankings are designed for. They're not a power rankings.

It's a mathematical formula. I don't think that's like the issue with the rankings, but I don't know. It's it's a mathematical formula. I don't think that's the issue with the rankings, but I don't know. It's a good question. Well, I mean, the other thing is Dustin, all the things JT has done, I mean, Dustin basically did last year as well. Right, you know, and all that is still on the books. People are complaining about ROMs ranking. It's like, no dude, look at the results, man.

Right, exactly. He is not only winning, but he's finishing top three, top five all over the place. That's as extreme value. So times like this, I always like to go to the Sagger and rankings. Back to my golf week days. Talk to her. And for those that don't know the difference, basically the official world golf ranking

is a two year window all based on points and strength of field and all that stuff. The Sagger in rankings is a one year window and it's all based on head to head. So, you know, if you, if you beat, you know, if you finish second in a 63 man event, then you're going to be, you know, 62 and one for that week or whatever that math ends up to come from. I'm following. Typically, I'm really, I'm, I ride pretty hard for this. I'm looking at it right now and it's getting a little hard to judge the fact.

Who do you think is number one? Teryl Hatten. Paul Casey. Okay. I can see that. Get down on that. I can see that. Number two, Patrick Cantlay.

Okay. What's the window in this again? One year. Okay. Wow. Patrick Cantlay again one year? Okay, wow Patrick Cantley's one year head-to-head record three hundred thirty eight I'm sorry 1,580 wins against 338 loss. That's what happens when you make every single credit number three Dustin Johnson. Yeah, no surprise. You can see that number four Ricky Fowler. Okay kind of a surprise

I feel like I haven't heard a lot from him lately. He's always there though. Number five, Justin Rose. Can feel that. That doesn't surprise me at all. Number six, Jordan Speeth, Tony Fino, Hadecki, Rom, Jason Day, Noda, haven't said Justin Thomas yet. Whoa. Matt Kutcher, Brooks Kevka. Oh my God.

That Justin Thomas. Okay. So basically, number 13. Number 13. I mean, if you miss cuts though, and that kills you, right, you lose to 100 people. You're right. Yeah, exactly. So it's, I don't know, it's going kills you, right, you lose to 100 people. Yeah, exactly. So it's, I don't know, it's kind of like,

what do you judge a player on? I see the value in that, but I almost feel like you should kind of throw out like the bottom five results. I don't know. I haven't thought this through. But like, golf is, I mean, a really bad week is not any different than like a mediocre week, if that makes sense.

Like you're just kind of out of it. So, we're just out of curiosity. Where does Alex Noren write on this list? Just out of curiosity. I'm not trying to stoke the flame here. Scrolling. I'm looking for a new Noren, actually. I may make Terrell Hat in the new Noren.

I'm just trolling for the record. Don't anybody. 28. Okay. He's between Brent Snedeker and Louis Usthade. Okay. I kind of like this. We should check in on the SAGS more. SAGS are great.

Especially if you're looking to gamble and make money. This is your heat map. That's a better way. Yeah. That's a bunch better power rankings than the World War rankings are. But yeah, people need to stop treating the rankings like they are power rankings. I agree. All I can say is I'm happy. Or we should start our own power rankings than the World War Rankings are. But yeah, people need to stop treating the rankings like they are power rankings.

So, I agree. All I can say is I'm happy. Or we should start our own power ranking. We should do that. We should totally do that. I'm happy he and JTNDJ are American because that's appearing I'd like to see, probably won't happen. But, all right, so we mentioned Hatton.

Just wanted to note Cabrabeo and Kierdeck were both awesome. It was great to have like a truly international mix. There was some world in the world. There was. There was some world. It was not in the United States, which is a rarity. And there were some some big names at the top from all over the place. So that was entertaining. If you could put a WGC anywhere in the world, where would you put it? I would love. So in my head, I say I would love to put one in Australia. But every time that something like this happens, I would love to like more Asian events

that happen in the middle of the night, people don't watch them. I probably don't stay up and watch them, and mod players won't go to them. There's a reason why the lot of these events are in North America. I mean, there's people talking about, well, we can just shoot from the hip,

there's no consequence. That's what we're saying. We should, and people are saying, we should put one in South mean, there's people talking about, well, we can just shoot from the hip. There's no consequences. Yeah, that's what we're saying. So, yeah. We should, and people are saying, we should put one in South Africa. It's like, man, you're not gonna get, that's Honda, Joe Hattisburg. Right, to, you know,

to be able to skip this week. And he's in Florida, I assume right now. Like, it's, it's, you're not gonna get guys, you know, the WGCs aren't, they're great cash grab, they're great for world rankings, but they're not essential for get guys, the WGCs aren't their great cash grab, their great world rankings, but they're not essential for a lot of these guys. And for sure. Like some of these guys chopping this off this year was kind of interesting.

Speed was a late commit to what he wasn't positive he was going to go. I'm not positive how much the players really like Mexico City. Like I've heard some of the caddies saying that they were not allowed to leave the hotel this week and it's just kind of, I don't know, I have some You know a lot of those things kind of are factored into whether or not you want to go to a venue whether or not you feel comfortable in a place and You know there's jokes about The food and like what it does to your system and all that stuff It's it's I guess there's there's a reason why they have won an acronym every year

It's because the players don't complain and they go collect their money and it fits in the schedule. So there's that TGF Friday's an accruing too. That's popping. It's popping. So I think Mexico is a happy balance of, hey, we got one outside the US. It's an important market for golf and it's cool event in everything, like watching the fans and watching the players interact with the fans and the way the fans treat the golfers and just the crowd noise and no idiots yelling.

It seems really cool. It's like a fun change of pace in so many respects. It feels kind of untainted almost. Yeah, like the event hasn't existed long enough for people to screw it up. Right. And it feels like, and maybe the TV just, they do a good job of displaying it, but I feel like the people that are there really treat it like a special event. Totally. Super excited. And then last year, I only basically watched a little bit throughout the week, but mostly today. But I remember watching the last year, I mean, fans were turned up. It was so awesome to watch. And they got that one volunteer that's pumping people up. Exactly. Like I like it. In that same vein,

I think we were both rooting for, a lot of people were rooting for Sharma today, sleeping on the 54-hole lead, and this identity crisis or struggle that WGC's are. It's like, it's usually a limited field, and it's only the top players in the world, so it's usually the rich get richer and kind of separate themselves even more from the next tier of players. So to see a guy in his first career, PGA Tour Start, have a chance to win. I was roomed, like that would have been such a cool story. I mean, it's kind of a dream,

I mean, that's basically a dream scenario for the tour, for the tournament organizers, for all the other tours that are involved in the tournament, I mean, everything, because it's- Maybe not the networks, but. I have, maybe because it's maybe not the networks, but they have maybe that's that's fair. I think it worked out okay. Yeah, they're good. But you know, someone like Sharma, it's not really like a lack of access to the WGC's. I don't think I mean, there are a shitload of names in there that I, you know, it's hard to find people that watch too much more golf than

you and I and I guarantee there are about 15 names on this leaderboard that I would not be able to match up with the photo of the player. Correct. So it's not really act, you know, lack of access. It's just a matter of, you know, typically the best players are the best and that's why they keep winning these things and just snuffing those dudes out. So it was awesome to see Sharma play so well.

I don't know what you can do to promote that or what you can do to really kind of make sure that it keeps happening other than just... Play it at a golf course like this. Yeah, well that's fair. It's a totally golf club. By the way, the TPC Chipotle. To the golf club they Chipotle to Peck or whatever,

it's actually called the subliminal advertising. I literally got Chipotle as soon as the broadcast was done today. Like I had to. Like it was in my head the entire week. So we touched on it, but along that same vein, it's so cool to watch guys, watch professional players play on a course that if we're talking about from me strictly golf course perspective has no business hosting a tournament of this magnitude. It just doesn't hear a opinion, man. It's my opinion, but I mean, my God, you can look at it. It's about 6,200 yards of manufacturing the altitude,

which is hilarious. That's great. You always, I don't know, I've always pictured golf courses that I grew up on. I'd be like, that'd be so cool to watch pros just come play it. And the course protects par decently well, which isn't big that'd be so cool to watch pros just come play it and not in the course Protects par recently well, which isn't important, but it's interesting to watch guys You know play a really short course and sixteen under is not that low of a score to win

No, but it's not necessarily like great architectural elements that create the challenges. It's more conditions and trees really over, overhang trees. I mean, I think I'm probably loosely quoting Phil here in saying that the recovery shot is the most interesting aspect of golf. Shut up, club pro guy. For, yeah. There were some punch outs that could have used some help.

This is a big punch out. There were a huge punch out. His punch out was, they cut a cost of the tournament. Yeah, this is help. This is a big punch out. Terrible having a huge punch out. His punch out was kind of costing the tournament. Yeah, this is true. This is true. That's why he practices. This is why we should have had, he should have got a sponsor's exemption.

Yeah, I totally agree. Maybe that's what Phil was in the CEO's ear about on that playoff hole. Sponsored exemptions. For Club Pro guy. Possible. But it's hard to say. I mean, from a viewer's perspective,

I absolutely loved watching today, because I love watching guys hit it in horrible spots and try to find their way out. That's, I think, as exciting as it gets. So, from that perspective, I think it's awesome. From a lot of other perspectives, I think it sucks. I'm, you know, borrowing from Andy Johnson, the Friday, who said some great stuff on our live show

right after the last putt dropped. Which is basically, you know, you mentioned the conditioning. When you have that many trees, there's no way you're gonna get sunlight, airflow, all that stuff to grow grass, the way that you need to. So that's why you see a lot of kind of shitty

looking spots out there. Which again is kind of awesome though. Agreed, totally agree. From, and it's kind of awesome. No, agree. Totally agree. From, and it's kind of the anti-agusta effect as far as, you know, people watch the masters and then they freak out when they see a brown patch on their club and golf, you know, they go blow up, they're super and golf gets more expensive and, you know, it's just this whole horrible, trickle effect.

Brown's not necessarily bad. No, not at all. This golf course it might be though. Maybe. Well, let me just patch his underneath threes that are clearly like, all right, we can't grow grass here, but let's think time. Don't hit it there.

But yeah. It was, so from that perspective, it's, you know, I could kind of see it go either way. From the whole, you know, Andy's with an angle's test, not great, obviously, from that perspective, I think his line was, imagine if you watch tennis and all they did was just hit it to the center of the court each time that wouldn't be very exciting.

And so the idea is, angles and working the corners and doing all that stuff. It's golf course definitely didn't have a lot of that. However, I don't think that ever really comes across all that great on TV. Anyways, even if you have the most strategic golf course, you have to do such a good job of storytelling and explaining that and doing that. And, you know, NBC did a great job. But when you have that many players on the course at the same time, and you have that much shit going on all at once, it's really hard to do that. And so it's hard to stop the action

and totally outlay the elements of a shot value. Which I think, so all of this is kind of a really long way of explaining why I don't mind the course slash kind of really like it, just because I think it's entertaining as hell. And it's a great change of pace. Like picture that versus derailleur. No, no, no.

I mean, it's like, oh, it's, it, my take is, I hate the golf course so much that I love. Like it's, it's so unfitting for a tournament that like this, that it's great. It really is. Like it really is. It's like, all right. This is a true, look, we all got to play the same course.

And we're all getting minimum 50k to be here and getting a ton of ranking points. Like, let's go have fun. And the guys handle it pretty well. Maybe it's just us that kind of dislike it. Guys, pros don't mind narrow. They really don't. That's a lot of them kind of view that as a good test.

And good, they don't necessarily like to think as much as we would like them to think. So. Well, and you mentioned, so the winning score was what, 16, which is not crazy. If anything kind of high for maybe a high, it's kind of right on the middle, right on yeah, right on par with everything else. I mean, there were, it seemed like guys were driving all over the, like driving greens

all over the place. And par fours that aren't supposed to be par five, but there were, there were six Eagles total. Really? For the week, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry there were six Eagles in round four. I was gonna say because it's like Sharma eagle the first old twice No, but like six Eagles for the week some of the par fours are just clearly not like risk reward drivable par fours that Guys are like trying to drive and almost getting like 400 yarders. It's kind of that's the part of this hilarious But just I mean the bunkering is terrible like well and so the other thing that I think is interesting and again I'm I'm definitely not saying anything new for anybody who reads Andy stuff or follows his stuff But he's big on beating this drum that you know the way that you test Really long players is not by making the golf course longer. I think that's right probably one of the biggest mistakes golf ever made was

Man these players are hitting the ball so far golf course longer. I think that's probably one of the biggest mistakes golf ever made was, man, these players are hitting the ball so far. I think we need to move the T-s back. Yeah, we need to move these T-s back, really, really punch these long players in the face. No, that does everything except punch them in the face, that just rewards them even more. And so that's where you think, Sharma wasn't somebody that hated super long. I don't know where Hatton is on the spectrum. It doesn't seem like he's a bomber. Phil obviously moves at JT. But you know, it's a mix of guys.

That's what we want. I know. So like a legitimately. Brian Harman T5. I wouldn't move this. I would not move this. No, I hate it so much that I love it. And it's a perfect disaster.

It's great. Yeah, I'm in. The Althe two factors great. NBC does such a good job too of laying out what the yardage really actually is. Otherwise, you know, guys hitting irons from 300 yards into par-fives would look kind of dumb, but you do the math. It's like actually 250 and, you know, it's not that tough of a carry. But as far as NBC goes, by the way, I don't think I get kind of self-conscious that we're,

you know, that we're being unfair, like disproportionate. I could not have been more locked into coverage. It's great. And I'm locked into coverage watching Sharma, who's a dude I've never heard of before this week. And Tyrell Hatton, who I can kind of, you know, whatever can kind of take her leave as far as watching on TV.

Sure. But I'm locked in, it's because they do, they just do such a, like, it is better. It's not close. Really is. And they didn't even have Johnny. They had Peter Jacobson, they just do such a, like, it is better. It's not close. Really is. And they didn't even have Johnny. They had Peter Jacobson, who I'm not, you know, usually not a giant fan, but I thought he did a great job.

He's better in the booth than his, or like, as the color guy, then Dan Hicks is so. Oh man. Good. That guy has grown on me a lot. Yeah. I used to think he was pretty dull, but his call for JT's whole out was fantastic. He, his excitement just seems very genuine. Yeah. I used to think he was pretty dull, but his call for JT's whole out was fantastic. His excitement just seems very genuine.

Yeah, I think he just connect with him. I think Nance is almost like a victim of his own success at this point. He's too big of a deal. Like, he's playing, I think Tron said it. He's playing the character of Jim Nance at this point. And it's, I mean, he's true. Yeah, that's hard. He's in a hard spot. I don't really know what you can do, but Dan Hicks, just, you've watched Dan Hicks.

You're like, okay, cool. I've met that guy. I know that guy. I'm listening to what he has to say. But maybe, I mean, maybe I just don't notice it. But do they use music and stuff between like for transitions between segments and stuff like? I mean, the whole thing just seems so much less produced, right? It's so much more golf. Which takes so much more producing. Right. To do that, exactly. You know, they don't lean on, I'll point again, I mentioned it in the live show, I mentioned on Twitter,

but a point to something so simple as Phil blew it, I forget what whole it was, it was like 13 or 14. And he blew it way wide left, just like left the face open and blew it wide left. And they had an ultra-slomo, however many frames per second shot, tight shot of his driver, you can see it going off the face straight left and they got into that shot and out of that shot

in probably seven seconds. And told the story. And told the story and it adds value, it makes you smarter as a viewer, it makes you care about where the next shot's going. It makes you care about his next t-shot. It does all these different things. They're so important. And they didn't take like CBS would have gone, they would have gone to a 22nd transition of fans running around. And then now here's a shot of downtown Mexico City. And now here's this. And now now okay we'll take you back. This was just a moment ago and it's such a hard thing to square on as far as you know

just just produce more or less. I don't I guess I don't know how to say it but just it just really just show go. We have no I don't know maybe we do maybe inherently we do have a bias towards NBC golf channel and against CBS but there's nothing personal like our like our families don't know, maybe we do. Maybe inherently we do have a bias towards NBC golf channel and against CBS, but there's nothing personal. Like our families don't, like, my dad was never fired from CBS or something. I feel like people think that we have just a true bias, but if you can't see the difference

between the way those these last two weekends have gone, I don't know what to tell you, I really don't. And it helps so much with Thursday, Friday, on the golf channel to just have all of that NBC continuity there. I mean, Chris Paisley was leading on Friday. Louis Ustason was too, and Sharmer was way up the leaderboard. What do you think the chances are going into that Thursday that there's a production meeting guys like, all right, guys, we got to get some Chris Paisley shots in there.

Let's plan on this. No, like they reacted to what was going on, and they're showing it every shot live for these guys, and in the latter half that afternoon, that's tremendous value that would just never happen in a CBS broadcast. I never really thought about it this way before, but if you give yourself kind of a quick scan,

give your memory a quick scan of kind of the most exciting golf tournaments you've ever watched from a non-major perspective. I'm kind of struggling to come up with ones that are CBS broadcasts and I think NBC almost kind of tricks you into thinking it's more exciting. Maybe. And it is a lot of the time. And what's the first time you thought of by the way? I thought of the players like I keep winning the players. That was I thought of the Valsbar in 2015 Which is an NBC event. Yeah, you know and and I mean part I think of Bay Hill I think of yeah, you know all these different things and maybe it's part Luck you know getting a draw of better events, but I don't think it's entirely lucky

I mean travelers last year was CBS that was great. Yeah, yeah Travelers last year was CBS. That was great. That was great. Yeah. Toward championship. That's, that's NBC. That's NBC, good call. Wow, really good point.

I don't know. I don't know. I didn't stand Hicks. He's got a spell on us. But, you know, it's just, I don't know. Okay, well, we've been too nice. Look, we didn't have one major criticism of the broadcast this week.

The misuse of bones. We got a solution. That was a miss. That was a miss for sure. And I wonder if, yeah, well, what's he got down there? Well, I don't know what's, yeah, I don't know.

I don't know how they handle bones. I mean, I gotta think that they brought them in partially exactly for today, right? I would hope so, but I can picture, I wonder if they got too deep inside their own head. That's what I'm thinking. We want to make sure that we feel ultra unbiased.

It wouldn't see a way. Which I actually kind of respect them for missing on that side rather than being super biased on the other side. We rather than maybe as a conscious decision of, we shouldn't have bones commenting on Phil. And they did bring them in a little bit. Ask them some specific questions, which was good. But man, it's the whole thing,

they was talking about how good of a jenga player Phil was. I missed that. I missed that one. I had to check the tape. I don't know. Coming up the 72nd hole, Phil is talking to his brother, his caddy, and like a great situation to kind of go to bones, but hey, what are they saying?

You've been in this spot with Phil. What does Phil say on the 72nd hall? Is he asking about like a trade going down the NBA or something like that? You know, that's perfect. I also wonder if bones and maybe you have more insight on this than I do, but I wonder if bones Is kind of tries to play a little bit of that close to the chest Maybe he doesn't feel like he wants to betray the code stuff that Phil has said on course, and it's not his place to share that stuff. I don't know.

It's a hard situation. But if the thinking was, all right, we can't, there's too much history there. We can't really have them there. Or maybe there's a bias there. He was literally unjust in Thomas' bag less than two days ago. Totally. You made this point. I'm stealing this take from you.

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I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like But phones could potentially be a candidate for GT's bag in the future. And he also could be a candidate for Johnny's job in a few years. So what about that? Is that not going to go to Faraday? I don't know, man.

It's such a waste if it doesn't. They, that's another kind of CBS gripe. Er, just NBC gripe. Guardians lip. I'd say NBC gripe that they've, they've way underused Faraday. What are they doing? I don't, I don't really know what's going on there. That's a, it's, they, they have a little bit.

I wonder if they're just kind of getting, you know, we've heard whispers, I think this is probably going to be Johnny's last year, maybe, or maybe next year. Sounds like it's close to the end here. So I wonder if they're kind of running out the clock a little bit and have too many cooks for a second. And you know, things that kind of work themselves out. Which by the way, very surprised, I guess, I don't know, I shouldn't be, but you know, I threw out like, man, really missed Johnny

in this situation. People are not agree. People do not agree. I think people being anti-Johnny and anti-push cards are among the worst takes. And we got both of them hard this week. Anti-push card is separate that I can't see the argument on. I can at least understand not liking Johnny Miller,

but I want to challenge people to really listen to what he says. I'm guilty of this, we're all guilty of this. The 63th The Open thing is way overdone. The joke is overdone about him always saying it. I would say more if I was hit. If I had done that, I would get a tattoo that said that I did. We joke about it more now than he actually says it. So I think we can kind of let that go.

But just, I challenge you to just listen to what he says and compare that to like with Fowdo. Like how many memorable things can- We were sitting, was it Riviera, I think? Yeah. We were sitting, we watched golf, we sat on the couch right there and watched golf for probably six straight hours.

We don't do a lot on that day. No. We probably watched golf for six straight hours and Bubba was getting down to probably maybe the 17th hole or so. And I was kind of thinking about it, I asked you, I remember. I was like, hey, can you picture, like, can you remember one thing Faldo has said today? No. And neither were both kind of strong and blank.

And it's because he's not taking really a stance. He's not sharing any great insights. And if you, oh my gosh, if Johnny was on that broadcast today, there would have been 15 things. I would have said, I didn't know this before he told me, or I didn't think of it that way. Or that was hilarious when he said that. And it's so conscious too, it just kind of goes right into your veins. Somebody, the thing, when you made that, or asked that question about Fowdo,

I thought of somebody, I read a tweet somewhere, somebody said, all right, avatars like one of the top five gross movies of all time. Can you name one line from that movie? Can you name or one character? That's what I think of Fowdo at the end of it. It's fair. Johnny, provide, sure, maybe he gets on your nerves,

and there's, he says some things that are dumb overall and are petty and whatnot, but man, in how much better is that than taking nothing? I can't even miss on that side. Yes, I'm totally in agreement. So again, if you dislike Johnny, I just challenge you when he's back to like, just listen in and think like,

all right, is this guy making up my entertainment value? Well, and that's how I was gonna say. So picture, you know, that's our biggest gripe with CBS, right, is that, you know, the energy just gets sucked out of the broadcast and things kind of fall apart and you end up looking at your phone and all of that. And think about how many little things we've mentioned about NBC that just keep that up and get all the time. And it's, you know, it's Johnny's a perfect example of, let's say, the action gets slow for

three minutes, four minutes, five minutes. They have all these little things that kind of fill in, you know, it's Johnny's a perfect example of, let's say the action gets slow for three minutes, four minutes, five minutes. They have all these little things that kind of fill in, you know, it just makes the whole thing so much better. Yeah. Yeah, and you mentioned some of the cool camera shots that got in, you know, without it feeling like oversponsored or overproduced and way too in on themselves, like they're just there to tell the story.

And, and I, we need to do analysis on commercial time and BCverseCBS. I don't know if it's like a tour mandated thing or all that still feels so dumb to me to see a PGA tour commercial during the PGA tour broadcast. It seems like they got a lot of young stars. I'm interested in learning about about them. That's the only way I learn about them is in those commercials. But it did seem like they may be front loaded commercials a little bit today. I didn't commercials, but So yeah, it did seem like they maybe front-loaded commercials a little bit today I didn't like the end of the end was pretty good, but All right, I pretty much tacked we're gonna we have a couple more questions at the end But I before we get to those I want to talk I would stay up and watch LPGA last night. Yeah, how was that lit?

Yeah, I so we get we get some criticism for not covering the LPGA enough Totally about it. Very fair criticism. Very, very valid it. All right. We barely have enough time to cover PGA tour golf. So but it is initiative for us for the coming year to get into more LPGA stuff. We're going to be attending an LPGA here.

Coming in a couple weeks. In a couple weeks. Yeah. No one to spoil it too soon here. I'm going to be hoping to be doing some really fun stuff with a couple of the ladies from the LPGA tour. Very excited about that, but I sort of, I said I'm gonna watch it and I wasn't thrilled,

but again, not to take it back to CBS. I don't know what the plug was, I think it was some kind of British feed that went straight to golf channel, but the production value was incredible. Like just telling the story, building the drama, but even in the European style, it felt like a Sky Sports broadcast.

It might have been what I really don't know, but Angel Stanford was on the opposite nine in shot 29, and they got a camera on her and told the story before she even finished the nine. Like, that would just never, ever happen in the CBS broadcast. But Michelle, we went for the first time since 2014. Parallel line to fill, not winning for the first time. Since 13, pretty amazing.

Danielle Kang was up there, Nelly Corda, Lydia Komey to run, Jessica Corda made a little bit of a run. That was, I was entertained. That was a really cool golf course. The fairways were really wide and really entertaining. The green complexes were awesome. Watching the girls try to balance, like try to, try to, the perbuta was shining. Like you could totally see where all the grain was going

and that part was really entertaining to me and watching them strategically plot their way around golf courses was great. So I'm excited to get more LPGA. What was the biggest difference watching the telecast for you between that and a tour event? Just in the way, in the style of play, and on the list. They made everything they looked at.

They made every putt. Like Daniel Kang was rolling in part, but getting up and down from everywhere, so they're making bomb, eagle putts. It felt like every putt was going in the hole. It was honestly just a fantastic tournament. Michelle, we shot 65, hold a 36 footer from off the green on the 18th to win it. It's, I don't watch enough to really have a full, thing to compare it against,

but it felt totally different in that, they are like Nellie Cortes hitting drives and like leaning left or right, and legitimately the ball was less than five yards from the center cut line of the fairway. Their accuracy is unbelievable. And I saw a couple, there were a couple of misfairways shockingly, but it's, it's, their games are just more relatable than to somebody like you and I.

Like we, people who just hate a lot of fairways, the, the distances and stuff and just like the, what our dispersions should be, like, that's what there's actually are. And they're so tight, like everything is so tight. And we got a lot of work to do on the LPGA side. But man, I got me excited. Well, that's kind of what I was going to say. It's a week like that where someone like Michelle, we wins. It's so funny.

It almost makes you feel or makes me feel like the way most people interact with the PGA tour, which is, yeah, I have kind of a passing knowledge of the players and the courses and the events But I don't really pay attention unless someone big wins Which is what happened what happened and it totally makes me like a Saturday night and that's how I spent my time But that's where you know, you can it's just kind of fun to see that effect in real life because we're gonna watch every tour event No matter what for the most part But it's fun to see you know know, when someone like Michelle Wee wins, it as self-conscious as I am

about, you know, being kind of a casual passing, fair-weather fan, I'm still like, wow, that kind of makes me like excited to go watch it now, right? That sounds even better. Jessica Corda won last week in Thailand and her 19-year-old sister almost won this week. She was a one-puddle way on this. Which is crazy, by the way. I remember when I was working for golf week. I went to LPJQ school a couple times in Daytona Beach. And I remember I think I went like the first year Jessica Corda was trying to get her card.

And she had this sister, Nelly, who was, yeah, probably 12 at that time. And so that's what you said that. You're like, oh, I had Nelly Corda's playing with her. I think you mean Jessica that her sisters really young she came she couldn't possibly be on the LPGA now. That's just getting old really fast for those that don't know the story to about Jessica Corta. She had surgery in the offseason. They I might get the details wrong, but they essentially she Is like she had a massive overbite and she was causing her big time headaches and was very difficult for her to sleep.

She had surgery, like her jaw got broken into three places and like they did something with her nose too for her breathing and she's like, her face has been numb for like months and she looks totally different now. Like they reset her jaw and like if you compare the two pictures she just looks like a completely different person. She almost didn't recognize herself in the mirror. It just came back to Thailand last week and won. Like totally unexpected. It was expecting nothing out of her game. We should make a video where one of us does that and see if it helps.

It helps to get your golf game. It could take your mind off things. I don't know. No, but the death of it. I think the Bethan Nichols wrote an article that was really really interesting about it and Beth Ann and I share share birthday. Oh Good info for the listeners by LPJ dollars basically. Yeah All right Big Cat playing Valsbar. Oh

Big week huge tournament man. I mean I feel like I need a week to catch up This is will stop. This is low key, like the best stretch of the PGA tour season. It starts to get nice out. People start playing golf in the weekends that are watching golf. And then it's like Green Briar week.

And so this, take it, you know, soak up this stretch. This is a really good stretch. I know we got major season coming up, but man, it doesn't get much better of a stretch that enough like good PGA tour golf than what we've had the last few weeks and these coming weeks. So I was, I was kind of shocked to hear the Valsbar thing, to be honest. I mean, I saw Bob Herrick wrote a piece, you know, basically listing out the reasons

why Tigers should play Valsbar. And Bob's from Tampa and he doesn't usually, he definitely doesn't play it fast and loose kind of with the rules or with the opinions or the, you know, stuff like that. So when he wrote that, I was kind of like, oh, maybe he might know something here that everybody else doesn't. And yeah, turn it out, he was right.

I love it, man, I'm so proud. I think it's like the way he's playing, I think it's a perfect place for him to go play. I mean, I think he's gonna ball-strike it to death, hopefully. And I don't know how he's gonna drive it. I think it's a little different than Honda. I really like to, and I'm born on a lot for Mandy in this podcast, I feel like,

but I really liked his whole theory on, hey, maybe Riviera was too open for him, and it's harder for players when they don't have a really, really, really defined, you know, start line and finish line. It kind of makes their brains freak out a little bit, and they end up driving it worse than when there's hazards on both sides. Tampa, I think, is kind of a mix of those two things. If I'm remembering it right, it's been there a couple times, but, you know,

I think trees probably don't really, you know, kind of tree line fairways don't really feel the same as maybe hazards or OB or any of that. So I don't know where he's gonna land kind of on that spectrum. But I don't know, man, it seems like a place where he can hit a lot of irons off T's, a lot of three woods off T's and hopefully be in the mix. But I'm also kind of thinking, you know how like if you ever

have like a good round of golf and you sit around for a couple of days, thinking about your good run again. Thinking about your good round of golf and you go back out, it's never, never right there. You start tricking your, that's, I'm not saying that's what tigers going through, that's what I'm going through with Tiger.

You kind of almost went full Camilo this week, by the way. I almost did, yeah. I actually kind of did go full Camilo this week. I, I think I, I'm just gonna get in my head, picturing Tiger contending. And it's probably more due for a slipback week. And I'm, I'm guessing on, of course, it doesn't have a lot of history on. But what if he won? But what if he won? What if we had, I mean, we'll Tiger win this year.

I was, I was big firmly in the camp of no, uh, until, I mean, he'll talk about it in this year. I was big firmly in the camp of no until, I mean, he's looked really, really good. I'd say yes. Yeah, I'm struggling picturing where though, if it's not like Memorial, I don't know. He started in Bay Hill would be pretty awesome. I mean, yeah, that could be the place for sure. I forget where I've heard, but I remember it being a pretty incredible. I think, maybe, that could be that could be the place for sure. I forget where I've heard, but I remember it being a pretty incredible.

I think maybe, well, I mean, the Valsper thing's cool. Maybe that, you know, he's doing like a one in four thing or something. I don't know. You know, the whole rule on you got to play a new event. But I mean, maybe he maybe adds a bunch of new stuff this year. I mean, he's not getting into WGC's. He's not getting, you know, there's stuff like that. I mean, maybe he's John Deere.

Oh God, how good with that face. Never happened. It's right before the British. Hello world. Yeah. All right, got a couple questions I think we should get to. Okay. My buddy Brad Bachman, which European player

has the best chance to win a major this year and which one will they win? Fleetwood, right? I like that. I said, I mean, that's kind of a default. I was thinking about wrong. Yeah, I was thinking about wrong. Wrong is easy to forget that A1 is here at the end.

I don't know how I was thinking about it. I don't know how I was thinking about it, but I'm still going to say Fleetwood. I said, I think I'll pick Rumbwin the PGA. I'm going to say Fleetwood at the US Open. Okay. He also asked this hypothetically, if you had to wager the kill house on who will win the masters and you could have the quartet of DJ, Phil, Rory and Rose, or the field, which are you riding with and why? DJ, Phil, Rory and Rose.

How would take the field? I'm taking the field there. Speed, JT. Yeah. If you throw in speed, Speed's going to end with like 20 masters. Tiger. It's a good question though. I love questions. speed, the lane works like 20 masters. Tiger. It's a good question though.

I love questions. Yeah, that's a good question. And Joe Scherer asks, big one after the last two weeks, who are you taking JT or Speed? There's no criteria there. Yeah, that's a pretty open-ended-ass question there. JT or Speed. I mean, like forever?

Well, let's define the parameter. We can make it whatever we want. Let's define the parameter. You define the parameter. No, I love it. I love it open like this. Who you taking? You got to get in a fight. You got to hurt your case.

You know, I'm a spieth. I don't know. I was talking to you about this earlier. This is such an admittedly very stupid stance that I don't like and I'm self-loathing about. But every time I watch JT, it hasn't calculated for me how good he is. I mean, I still kind of watch him, I'm like, ah, you know, the body and glory and speed and dust and all these other guys, you know, they're really the elites.

And now I'm like, oh my God, no, they're not. He is right there with all of them. And for whatever reason, it just hasn't clicked to my brain yet. Imagine how excited we would have been if Rory was in the playoff today versus JT and how exactly I think that's kind of what I'm trying to say Yeah, which is wrong on our Totally it's we've gotten way too used to JT being in content. This is third playoff this season Already like Jesus Would have would have been his third win

I still it's to the speed. In this weird open-ended question of which I don't really know what I'm committing to, I'm going to take speed. So Porter has written about this recently and should we have this conversation of who's better JT? What is... It could get awkward because I don't know if you guys are actually friends. They know each other.

What is speed better get awkward because I don't know if you guys they're actually friends. What they know each other. What is speed better than then JT right now? Speeds putting can be kind of misunderstood and he's looking really good mid-range putter is short puts are not great not great I mean is I am really really good putter She that's I mean, I don't know not really like with the numbers, but I feel like JT drives it better. Yeah. I feel like speed hits his irons better. And I feel like maybe they're putting kind of cancels each other out in a weird way. Yeah. At the same, along the same vein, I think it happens too frequently that we forget how good Jordan is and we kind of did that. That's why I was going to say. Yeah, in 2016, and that last year, 2017 was spectacular.

He won a freaking major last year. That's not a small. He won two majors ago. He won a major. I mean, there's no death of Jordan. I was thinking about it today. I think about how close he is to having six majors. I'm not joking.

He almost won the Open at St Andrews. He was second at the PGA in 2015 to Wistling Straits. He showed up won the 2016 Masters. Like, yeah. 2015 Masters, he's in the final group too. I mean, he got his doors blown off. Or a 2014. Correct.

Yeah. So it's not a maybe at the same time, like, Jack Nicholas has like 36 top three finishes in majors that aren't wins or something like that. So Jack would have counted speeds to US junior wins as a major as well. This is true. Yeah, we did get, we got a ton of questions. We asked with two close to the recording time.

Here's another good one from Burke, Burke's Defko. Shout out to Burke. From now till the end of the season, who would you take, Tiger or Phil? Oh, what a good question. It's Phil. I mean good question. It's fill. I mean, yeah, it's, yeah, it's fill. But we've also seen fill kind of burn himself out as well. Throw in footballs and stay.

Exactly, exactly. Who knows, he can take a like falconry or something. I know he's big green rire, maybe he gets deep in the falconing scene, he doesn't even want to play golf anymore. D Johnson Swag asked, were you when your crush JT didn't win will you test direct it you yeah Will you a test to who I was rooting for in the playoffs? Yeah, he was he was pretty pretty pumped to see Phil. Yeah, get it done. I was really fulfilled. That's a much better story Yeah, JT's he's won a lot already like I feel like honestly JT was like rooting for Phil to be in that playoff Many people on the live show said JT's won a lot already. I feel like, honestly, JT was rooting for Phil to be in that playoff.

Many people on the live show said JT through the event. Which is a very spicy take. That is a spicy one, but that one's taken too far, obviously. But I think legitimately, I don't want to say he's bored with winning regular tournaments already. But in Korea, it was weird how disinterested he was in that tournament. How?

How, not, this interest is in the right word. He was just so worn out, so fatigued, he was so ready to get back home that it didn't really even register within that he won. And one last week in Honda, again, I'm not saying he's completely bored with winning tournaments, but I think he was kind of like pumped to be in the arena with Phil, that has to be a childhood, totally dream of some kind and probably cooler experience,

especially knowing he was 11 shots off the lead and shouldn't have been there. That was probably more of a thrill to him than winning last week at Honda. Plus he probably had side action with Phil. Probably did. Probably did. I think that was what Phil was telling the CEO that was trying to, you know, run some tips over to the book. He's trying to get a par leg. Yeah. One of the questions Tyler Davis, the JT, intentionally missed that put in the playoffs. So he didn't alienate more fans by beating Phil. Wow. That was a PR move. Yeah. Smart. Try to get people back. Very heady. We talked about the watch today.

They excel sports management groups and thinking that one through. After the feedback, after him ejecting the fan last week, do we think he's up for some kind of harassment from fans going forward? No, I don't think this, I think these things have such a small, short shelf life. Like I kind of already forgot about that before you mentioned it. Yeah, but some people were, and we didn't record a podcast last week, we talked about in the live show, but a lot of people were asking like our takeed it. Yeah, but some people were, and we didn't record a podcast last week. We talked about in the live show, but a lot of people were asking like our take on it.

I thought, and for one, I'm probably not the person to weigh in, people are gonna accuse me of being biased towards JT, which is not unfounded opinion at all. I thought you were gonna say, which is not the case. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, no. I, I, yeah, there's, that's not, that's not, co-pilot. Yeah, no, no, but I, I tried, I don't know, like I said this, if it happened to Luke List, if he kicked somebody out, I don't think

that's the big story from Honda. Oh, totally. Yeah, that's, that's true. It got so carried away. Yeah, was it, no, it didn't look cool. And no, yeah, he regrets it. But if you could do it again, he would never do that again.

Like it, it looked terrible. My point was was like these things happened during the course of tournaments. This isn't it's a priority that it gets caught on camera and on audio, but that's not unusual for that to happen. And that if you're trying to win a golf tournament with two holes left and there's somebody that's harassed them maybe three times, but then that hole alone and you're thinking, I'm entering this cauldron and then I I'm gonna have to hit all these shots. If I can just get rid of this guy, maybe I'd do it? Yeah.

Sure. No, it doesn't look cool, but that's not the story of him winning in a playoff. Totally agree. That's the part that, man, it just got way, way overblown. As far as to your original question about, is this gonna happen more going forward?

I think, I don't know, I look at like you were in Phoenix this year right and I was there was that last year or a couple of years I think it was a couple years ago now when Bubba made the comments about you know I'm only here because my sponsors want me to play this event he got destroyed the next day I mean just obliterated by fans the next day yeah And now, I mean, you saw it this year. I mean, he's revered again. I mean, people just, I think if it was maybe if this tournament was Valsbar this week, and it's kind of close to South Florida, and you know, it's the same people are talking about their, you know, talking to their friends

about going to the tournament and blah, blah, blah, blah, then maybe. But I think, I don't know, I just think these things blow over so fast that. What about potentially getting rallied by a certain group of people, Ram Bunkshas group of people that are encouraging people to heckle him. Oh, sure.

That's, that could have an effect. The stool is, you're saying. Oh, you piece that together. There was a call to action by a certain stoolie to echo him while he's getting groceries. Like that kind of could have a downstream effect. It'll be interesting to see. Maybe.

I mean, Barstill's probably had five other controversies. The truth. Since that was said, I mean, I don't know how people can keep up with all the shit. It's like, there's so many people to be mad at online that it's just exhausting. Oh, well, we'll see. It's gonna be interesting so many people to be mad at online that it's just Exhaust. Oh well, we'll see it's gonna be interesting back in the States You know obviously that didn't have the effect in Mexico, but I think it is something to watch All right, Tampa is a pretty chill. He playing Tampa. Do we know

He I don't know he's got to exercise the demons of the mystery I'm not sure and I don't know it might be hard for him to go back to the place where he murdered that guy exercise the demons of the mystery. Yeah, the mystery. And I don't know, it might be hard for him to go back to the place where he murdered that guy. So the driver off the deck. Yeah, we'll see. I'm not positive. We should probably have that info. But it's late.

It's Sunday night. Let's wrap it at that. We were supposed to go like 40 minutes. We went like over an hour. All right. Cool. Too much to talk about. Too much fun.

Let's get back to what's on tonight. The Oscars. Oh, yeah. Who's going to win Best Picture? Somebody asked that. Man. Big movie guy, DJ Pie. I am. I mean, I'd love to see Get Out Win. I don't know. Seems unlikely.

I would love Big Randy and I were big, Phantom Thread fans. I think that's too far out there. I think Shaperwater, we'll probably win. Which I was coming into. People thought it was weird, but I haven't heard of any of those three movies. So let's get back to Avatar. Let's go. All right, thanks for tuning in.

We're going to have another pod this week with Justin Hubert and Luke Guthrie, probably come out on Tuesday. It's a good one. Some awesome, awesome stories in that one. I hope, yeah, I hope people tune into that. I think you'll like it. So DJ Pi, thanks for coming back over and crushing it. And you guys have a good week.

Thanks for tuning in. Yeah. and crushing it and you guys have a good week thanks for tuning in. Yep. Let's give it a big round of applause. Be the right club today. Yes! Yeah! That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most.

Better than most.