No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 123: Luke Guthrie and Justin Hueber

Episode Date: March 6, 2018

Luke Guthrie and Justin Hueber stop by the Killhouse to talk about their career paths, the upcoming Web.com Tour season, and how they got to where they are. Luke was a decorated player at Illinois... The post NLU Podcast, Episode 123: Luke Guthrie and Justin Hueber appeared first on No Laying Up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to give it a try. Be the right club today. That is better than most. How about him? That is better than most. Better than most! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up Podcast. Traunts here, DJ is here, and we are trying to take advantage of a little bit of time that these guys get to spend in Jacksonville before the web season really gets cooking here. Luke Guthrie is here.

What's going on guys? Justin Hubert cooking here. Luke Guthrie is here. What's going on guys? Justin Hubert is here. What's up, what's up? How ready are you guys to get on the road and get the season going? Let's do it. I mean, shoot one more international event, then start the track of 15 and 16 or so.

Hubert? Yeah. The first four were fun. It was nice to kind of get it going. And then this little three week breaks been nice, but it's time to get back after fun. It was nice to kind of get it going. And then this little three week breaks been nice, but it's time to get back after it. I'm ready to go. Is it like even an option to take events off once you guys get going? Ah, like once in a while. Like you can only really forward unless you play well. Maybe one

or two, I would say. Max, if like you kind of almost have to plan it out before you start like no, when you're going to take your break, kind of thing have to plan it out before you start like no when you're gonna take your break kind of thing but this this year's schedule is better than last year last year was a little rough what are the bit what are the improvements as far as the logistics like tournament the tournament like you don't pass through cities you're gonna be in and like another week or two as much this year you get I think we get one week off in the middle of that big stretch last year we had no weeks off. So yeah, they throw Knoxville BMW Nashville and Raleigh all in a four week segment instead of Knoxville being later in the year. BMW and Raleigh weren't right next

to each other. There was a week off in between those. So they've done a lot better job with that. It's condensed Bahamas too. Condensed Bahamas. As far as weeks off go, I've kind of picked three that I would like to skip. Obviously you gotta be playing well to afford to take those off, but Nashville, New York, and Stonebray would be the three if I'm in good enough shape,

I'm gonna take a week off. Cause you gotta try to find the balance, right? Between not wearing yourself out yet, there's only so many events. It's not like BJ tour season, that's 40 events longer, whatever it is. Yeah, you really gotta pick and choose. I don't like to play more than 4 and a row.

Five is kind of stretching it. And if I take those three off, I will never play more in 4 and a row for the whole year and still play 20 events. So that would be ideal. A lot of people are saying that this is full disclosure. I was rooting hard against him on his last hole first round last year. I shot three over and he was three over going into the par five ninth and I'm like, in the car, I think I was driving him back

to the place, and I'm just vigorously refreshing the page. Like, show me shot five from the roof or something. And then it popped up, shot six in the hole, and I was like, ah, got him. I know everybody's disappointed that they heard DJ Pihowski here. I think there was probably some people holding out hope that it was Dustin Johnson.

Sorry to just point the wrong DJ. All right so let's start with you Luke. Give people kind of an intro background on where you come from, how you got into golf, what your career did you like to this point. For people that may not know. Grew up in Quincy, Illinois. It's kind of a small town, Illinois. A couple of hours in North to St. Louis, had corn fields in my backyard kind of growing up. My parents don't play golf.

My brother, five years older, who's my caddy for a long time, assistant coach at Illinois. He kind of got into the game, so I just wanted to do what he was doing. But as a family, we kind of just figured out what golf was, how to do things and stuff, traveling, week to week and stuff, all together. So I didn't have like, kind of like the academy sort of background, but yeah, just went to Illinois, put some good golf, kind of just.

I knew you were going to be really modest about. Yeah, put some good golf. And seven tournaments, you want two big 10 championships. One of the greatest coach players of all time. Later on. I figured it out junior year. Like my first two years were a little rough. Shout out to 75s. And then I don't know what clicked. I just got comfortable and the game seemed easy.

When I played bad, I got 10th when I played good at one and came and then I don't know what clicked. I just got comfortable and the game seemed easy. When I played bad, I got 10th when I played good at one and came out of college and was kind of on a heater. So I rode that and then the game kind of hit me in the face a little bit here and I've been fighting my way back. How did it hit you in the face? What changed really from, you won twice on the Web Tour

in 2012 right out of school, like, what then what changed from there? You know, I think you're trying to get better, you know, like, I get to go play really well in the way I go to the PGA 2 or almost win the Honda, like, do well, but you're seeing, like, what other guys do really well and you're like, man, I need to get better at this, that. And like, sometimes trying to get better, you lose some of the things you were good at. And you don't realize how good you were at them until they're gone. So that's kind of what happened to me. Like I've always been great, 150 and in. And I

always hold onto that. But I started kind of outskankable and all of a sudden it's out of play. It's not in the fairway, just in the right rough. And that really started adding up and stuff. And start having to grind for one over parves and stuff like that and making eight footers for parves and stuff of birdies. And it's it played big into your psyche and confidence. Just totally. It started and started kind of like hitting me there a little bit.

And I think it's well documented. Pace of play slowed down a little bit. I got a thing pretty good on that one. You got to tell the Johnny Miller 17. I think it's well documented pace of play slowed down a little bit Pretty good on that one Oh, man, that talk about that was rough my buddies were showing me that stuff afterwards and I mean I knew it's happened I know like the cameras are on you when you're on that hold matter who you are 17th at Honda, right? So sorry I took a cold shot. right? I saw it. I saw it. Sorry. In the cold room. Yeah. It was a tough shot.

It's nerve wracking and there was wind everywhere, but I mean, it's just a joke how long I took. I backed off maybe twice and I'm just like, I need my head to like hit the dang ball. What are you doing? And then there's like the third back off, there's groans from the crowd. I'm like, oh, I'm scared.

It's bad. And Johnny's there's groans from the crowd. I'm like, oh I'm scared. That's bad. And Johnny's going nuts on the telecast. Yeah, he's a sad kid. Look away. He's like, I'm not like that. I had the kids. I had the kids. I had the kids. I had the kids.

I'm blinding. All right, Huber, let's get a little bit of your background. I actually grew up in Arkansas for probably 10 or 11 years. We were members at the Ozark Country Club and I used that term loosely. There was a little pool and a pudding green that we would put on with, I remember having slashing your golf balls and how pumped I was to have a slashing your golf ball. We swam in the pool, when it was a break. No, a call of a show.

Oh, sorry. I had some crombs off. But no, just remember, swam in the pool, you have to take a break and we go put on the putting green. And then back in the pool, like that was how we spent our summers and then moved up to Indiana when I was in sixth grade and kind of moved into a town just on the outside of Muncie, Yorktown is where it was and they had some really good golfers.

Now remember that's kind of when I first started getting into it because there were kids that I went to school with and Liv we lived on a golf course there and the players club and these kids were really good so I was like I got to, I to try to be good whatever so played with them moved up to Fort Wayne and seventh grade and really got into it we lived on a golf course again this seems to be a theme here. Deer track which has since been deceased I guess you can say. Was that a conscious decision from your parents to keep moving? I think so my dad my dad played but not like at a high level. I mean he could shoot upper 30s 40 type deal. He can hit it high and right or right and highs his joke. He has both those shots in the back Just big banana pealers

But no, it I think it was just kind of a See where this can go if we move here and they were these are public courses. They're not like high-end country clubs, so I'd walk up to the course in the summer hit balls all day walk back home at night kind of deal and We went to college at University in Annapolis. I went with a buddy. We were kind of like a package deal Calpier since his name. And we were like, let's just go play golf and college together, kind of thing. And we're in together off four years,

playing college. I always did my own thing. I never was a big practicer where I'd go grind on their range, I just go play holes. And ended up having a pretty good career. I think I won 11 times. I won 10 my last two years. Maybe we spoke to you soon about the greatest call.

It was division two. It was division two. 11 is better than seven. No, played nice and then I graduated and was like, all right, let's give this a shot. I had a couple buddies that I was going to travel with the first couple of years and I toubled around in the Hooters Tour and NGA Tour when they Hooters dropped it and played with like Ted Potter and Russell Knox was out there. There were some really good players and I didn't hop out to the web and PGA Tour right away but I was still kind of shell shocked at those guys that you show up in 70, 69 doesn't do you much anymore in the, 69 doesn't do you much anymore on

the Hooters Tour. I mean, these guys are shooting 64, 65 darn year every round, winning at 25 under. And I was like, I kind of suck. Like honestly, so it took, it took probably three or four years to kind of figure out my game, I guess, and how to play golf and what I needed to do. And it's just kind of slowly progressed to where it is right now. How many times a tip-how to junior win that year? All of them. All of them.

You made a hundred. I want to say I'd have to look it up, but he had to make a hundred and 40,000 on the Hooters tour. Maybe more. Something astronomical. I mean, I'm out there grinding for like 1,600 bucks. Like 5,000 is 20,000, I'm like dang, you know, that's like 2,500, that's pretty strong.

And this guy's making 140 grand playing mini tours. I was like, what? It says this, no, this doesn't make sense. And then I think it was like, maybe my second year out there where he mundated into Valdosta in one. And I was like maybe my second year out there where he Monday'd into Valdosta and won and I was like, okay, I'd never played in a web event or nationwide at the time and I was like, he can win out there and he's just go play out there and leave us. I can at least get like 19th next week instead of 20th. Well, then like conversely when he went out on the web tour the next year and missed

24 cuts in a row did you see the hut and you're like oh man that's the most depressing thing I remember. I know that was actually before that was his that was probably right when I was graduating he had earned his status because he I don't think he went to college. I think he was like 20 or something when he got out there and missed 19 in a row. And then, went back to the Hooters tour, dominated, came back and went like two for 16 or something like that, like something crazy. And then Mondays and Wins, and now he's wanted twice on tour. Was there ever, was there a feeling like when you start playing professionally, like you're probably feeling

in a good place about your game and getting out there and seeing just the volume of how many good players there are in that is there ever like a feeling of wondering whether or not you can compete with that number of people. That was a big thing because in college it was you played your playing against five guys from the other team and and I'll honestly one or two of them were pretty good. Type deal right at least at the level we were at. But when you go in turn pro, you're playing against everyone's number one guy that turned pro instead of their four and five man that you can beat easily in a nice way.

Yeah. From a, so how long do you see spent how many years on the Hooter Store? I graduated in 09 I didn't really play much in 09 I I may have played one event or something but then 2010 2011 2012 and they ended 2013. I got web status at any point did you think about hanging it up or you Loan funds I I always did it on my own. I never had a sponsor. My parents helped me out. I should say that. But I kind of, the goal was just to break even. And I'll say, I didn't make, I didn't profit any money for those four years. It was like, okay, I can just break even. I can play the next

year, type deal. And I never thought about quitting. I just knew that I needed to, I kept getting better every year, not to the point of like winning all the time, but gone from... What it was, progress. Missing some cuts, now making more, now making most of them, now I'm actually contending, and now then I got Web status and kind of had to find that way again out there. So, all right, so let's go to PGA Tour Latino America status, right? I got web status for 2014 and I played a couple of events. I finished, it was the last year, it was six rounds at Q-school. And the year Justin Thomas got out.

And I was playing nice through four rounds in like 25th, 30th place, something like that. And then didn't play great the last two days and finished probably 60 or 70, something like that. So I didn't get status or didn't have full status, played a couple of events and then I went back to Q-school the next year and played bad the last day at first stage and didn't make it at first stage and that was one time where I was like, okay, like, we probably need to figure this thing out.

And I went down, I did, I did Latin Q school mostly just so I could practice out of sawgrass for free. So I wouldn't have to play golf. I was like, I just go down and get status. If I want to play, maybe I can play. If not, then I don't go play. At least I can practice for free in Jacksonville because we had moved up here. And then I think the third of end of the year, fourth of end of the year, whatever was Mexico where I was able to win. And then good back surgery along the way. You have the same back surgery as the big cat. Yeah I ended up not opting out of surgery. I did stem cell

injections. Okay. And ended up with a spinal fluid leak and it was a mess for about a week there. You told me the story when we were playing and I think it was to like rattle me a little bit while we were playing. It was about spinal fluid leaking. First, my game felt a little hard. I know. And you put it it off the green on the next hole. I did. Into the water. Into the water. Actually true. For the first, I thought I was gonna shoot 65, but I put it in the water after he's like throwing spinal fluid, leaving it jet. Yeah.

I couldn't get off the couch for five days. As soon as I would sit up or stand up, I'd get these headaches to where I would actually throw up. I have throw-up bags in my car from the right home from the airport because it was really, really bad. Cheers. Shout out to ClubPro guy, too. You want, it was really, really bad. Cheers. Shout out to Club Pro guy too. I mean, the Mexican hope.

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you won twice in 2013. You slept on the 54 hole there, but you came out 2012 and you played the web tour you won twice in 2013. You slept on the 54-hole lead at the Honda Classic. We've talked about a bit on the live show this past week, but what was that rise kind of to be in that position feel really fast to you? Like, when you're in it, it doesn't feel fast. It's kind of like, man, I must be really good or something like, cool, like let's keep going. 3.23 at the time.

Oh 23.23. But then like kind of when you start stop playing like so like everything stops going so perfect and like you just make every putt and you're kind of like oh this game's actually hard. And like you kind of realize how like just like a half stroke here, half stroke there is a difference between missing cuts and finishing top 10. It's like well all right all right, kind of thing. But yeah, that was, that rise was, that was a lot of fun.

I mean, I felt like I could just kick the ball and I was going to go in, honestly. Like, it was just a joke. I mean, it's staggering, man. It was a 15 week stretch where you made your debut at the FedEx and you classic T19, T5 at John Deere, T18 at the True South Classic, and then you went out on the web tour. Was this your first web tour event you ever played? The nationwide was. Yeah, in Columbus. Second place, you lost the playoff? To Ben Kohl's. Okay. Can I jump in real quick? Can you tell them about the part you made on

16? I believe they're the greatest part ever. I don't know if you play Scarlet, dog like laugh. There's some crap down to the left. I snap one. This is fun around. Snap one. I don't know what the situation was. I was one down, even crunch down. Snap one. I'm like crap. Shout out to Zach, my brother, for coming up with equal distant rule, because I was a little frazzle, like wouldn't have thought of it. So like if I would have taken my line aside it was like going back like behind these trees out is gonna be 220 have to stand up like a three iron which I don't do. Like so aka I was gonna chip out like and have a wedge and try to make five. So he walks me across like in hey like in

the trees and I see this little gap gap on the other side of the hazard. I drop it there and I hit this super flop 52 from 105. And I kind of jumps and it's back pin, lands a milligrain, like top spins, like eight feet, make it for par. And it's like, I make seven from there. So then you lose a playoff the next week, T3, the Cox Classic, next week, T10, next week, T6, then you missed a cut, then you want back to back weeks. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And this is an easy game, right? Yeah, it was like, honestly, obviously I was playing well and as a learning curve in that. And like, I grew a lot in that time because I was one that first week looking back. That was the biggest week of my golfing life. I had no clue, but I got in off Dylan's hotel.

I didn't play on his first team all-American. I was the guy that got in off that. I was a second team all-American that year. I mean, as this won't start, you know, kind of thing. And I shuffled in right at the shuffle was right after that event. So I get to go play the Cox Classic the next week. We're in kind of thing. And Cox Classic always leading, for sure, after the 54 hole, and just like learning,

like, especially on the web, you just get laughed if you try to just not screw up. I wouldn't shout like 300 and lost by like four that day with the lead. And it's like, whoa. All right, I guess I had shoot eight under to win with the lead, okay. Kind of thing, so it was a nice learning curve that year. What's the biggest difference

between the web tour and the PGA tour? Courses, horses, players, everyone's really freaking good on both tours obviously. A little more firepower I guess you could probably say. Everyone's kind of still like very young on the web and kind of learning how to put a score on the board and like they're Uber talented and on the PGA tour they're Uber talented and they know how to put a score. Established, yeah. Kind of thing. And the courses are way harder.

I remember coming down 13, playing production on Tory Pines and I'm like, what the heck? Like you're supposed 12-under-one here last year? Oh, okay. You miss a fairway. I have to like hack out down the fairway and get up and down from ADR. It's like, it's just a different golf. Like, the par threes are four earns for me or the web web I'm in four and into par fives, you know, kind of thing.

And like, I would say the web, the courses have gotten tougher since 12, so it's not quite like that anymore. That's what I was gonna ask next is, what could the web tour, I guess, do differently to kind of, I don't know, guys going on the right path, it seems like there's a style play that fits best on the web tour that doesn't necessarily translate to the PGA tour. Do you feel like that gap is kind of closing? Definitely, but I'm still like smashing grab on the web is is a good Strategy like that as you reward it a lot of times you're just playing about half the courses are a little more like old country club style and like

Not that they're short, but I've probably what 68 to 71 and you can cut corners dog legs and stuff and then you hit in the rough you're hitting a gap wedge in but then you go to Tory Pines or some ninth hole and you hit it on a part five in the right rough and like somehow it's a really hard hole all of a sudden on a part five and you're like what the heck I didn't hit that bad out of the drive., Hubs, we touched a bit on your back stuff but I want to kind of get deeper into that. Like after, you know, those headaches and that doesn't sound like you're anywhere close

to being able to like play the game of golf. Did you think like, was there a point where you thought like your golf career was potentially over? Yeah, I mean, in 2000, December 2017, so I just played 18 events on the web in 17. Didn't keep my card, but I had won the first Latin event of the year. I went down to play, so I was like, all right,

or no, sorry, 16. Yeah, 16. I was gonna say, I didn't know it. All this was going on last year. Yeah, no, so 16 won the first Latin of into the year, then played the web. I got a sponsor spot in Louisiana and Parlay that into 18 events, but didn't keep my card.

I went right back down to Latin America and played four or five events to try to get back in the top 10 to get exempt to final stage. Didn't do that. I think I finished like 14th or 15th, something like that. And then flew back and went to final stage didn't do that. I think I finished like 14th or 15th something like that and then flew back and went to second stage, one second stage at Southern Hills and then I had a little bit of time off before finals, go to finals. In the first round I did something to my back. I popped a rib out trying

to banana slice a five iron and I get twed up, but it was kind of warm out whatever I only had one hole left. Did you pop it back in? I tried. I tried. Literally the next day I had my caddy like, literally jumping on my back to try to get it back in. The muscles were spasming up.

It was not good. You rattled me again. I'm sitting down, I'm like sitting down in the golf carts that are parked out there for emergency purposes, like leaning up against the seat, trying to move it back in, whatever. And fascinating. Play the second round, not very good. Like, I think I shot.

Then I tried to eat up the third round and I hit a driver off the deck on nine. Nice. Yeah, I was like, I was like playing okay too. I was like inside the number Or right around the number whatever it was and then it like legitimately seized up I got it out that round but like one handed type deal and Went emergency like chiropractor visit to this guy's house that my agent knew and show up like his kids are running around and I'm like laying on his living room floor like having him adjust me whatever I

Take some pills that night to like try to sleep anyways WD the next round and have the last second the last conditional number one of the guy WD before me at final stage So that was December. I don't do anything all of December and I go out to Utah in January for those stem cells to see if that'll help the low back. This wasn't even my low back. So I get those and then on the flight home is when I'm thrown up the whole time,

barely make my connection. My wife picks me up, I'm thrown up in the car on the way home. And then five days later, I'm in the ER getting injections again for they take your own blood out and inject your own blood back into your spine and it seals up the leak. From then, yeah, I was like, it sounds like the blood spinning. Yeah, they gave me a bow and it was really bad. I will say that. No, so then I was, I didn't do anything for another probably three

weeks. So I was off for almost two months going, I don't know what this year is going to hold. I have no guaranteed starts. I can go back to Latin America, but I'm not going to go back down there for another year. I'll just kind of work out and try to see what I can do. And fortunately, I met a guy here at a sawgrass trainer who used to work with VJ

And started working out and then I went to Monday for Louisiana and made the turn in 9 under for the my first competitive round since Q school and I was like, okay, so that I'm all right and then Monday then made the cut and then parlayed that into a couple more events and then Monday didn't which it all finished fourth and then somehow finished up 75. What you brought us a nice artifact here from what you, the America's Cup is this 2015. That is 2015. Mexico City. So we have a Justin Hubert bag cover here with American flag, but signed by your partner,

Matt Kucher, the Kuch baby. What can you tell us about that experience? Or how did you get up on this team? So it is a week or two weeks before the event, we're in Santiago, Chile. The whole deal was Tiger and Kochie are gonna come play and We I had a partner in Kent bull and we had I mean we'd already got the matching foot joy shoes with American flags on We were gonna be over the top my wife was coming to caddy. He had Aaron Flainer Big Cat the real big cat and He we were gonna just gonna have fun. We had USA visors like the whole deal just way over the top going to go have fun and then

So yeah, I don't know how it works These three Argentine guys Pony up all this cash to hostess event and their goals to get tiger there and So in bridge stone was the sponsor so then I think that's how they got Coach. Just a two-man team event, best ball for four days, and the way it worked on Latin America, they got three teams if you were all inside the top 20 on the money list, the US did, and then each country, the top player, if you were in the top 60, got a team, whatever.

Pretty cool little deal. And then you were gonna get to tee it up against Coochern Tiger. It's in Mexico City. Yeah, Mexico City. The course was actually, it was the tightest golf course I've ever played. Like these trees that were a yard off the fairway that touched the ground.

Like if you hit it off the fairway, it was darn near chip out. That's it. And it was a blast. And anyways, yeah, I'm going to play with Kent. They come up to us two weeks for a tournament and said, Tigers were strong because of his back. And we're trying to get Fred couples to come.

And I was like, all right, that'd still be kind of fun to play against those guys. And I don't think he wanted to. And ended up, they're like, all right, well, it's going to be the low American on the money list. Who else could you find out? Yeah, yeah. Bridge, bridge.

That's something I pull out. So naturally, humor was the next one after. Next in line. And they're like, yeah, low American on the money list gets to play with Coocher. And they sent me an email to ask me if that was OK. And I'm like, yes. I don't know how to respond to this.

So anyways, it's like, yeah, you're gonna play with Coochir. And show up on the Monday, I guess, and go play my practice round by myself. Could we talk about the replies to the tweet first? Yes, please. The announcement's been so busy. So we did. So Jason Sobel said, PGA tour announces

that Matt Coochir's partner in upcoming Bridgestone America's Golf Club replacing Tiger Woods will be Justin Huber. There's what? Who? Aren't they one and the same? Who? And the TV execs are salivating.

You're either too late or too early for April fools. Of course, I have no idea what the America's Cup is either. Hey, those are both top 750 players right there. So win, win for Cooch, either way. Nick Johnson, no exaggeration here. I've literally never heard of him. Who is Justin Hubert? This is my favorite one. Justin Hubert? Didn't know there was a 734th ranked golfer until now. It's a big confidence boost. They would have been better off replacing Tiger with his surgeon. This is a joke, right? Good thinking. Throw another big name in there. Sounds like a snoozer. Oh yeah, it's at the public's parking lot crying while reading this with my wife. Sounds like a snoozer. Oh, yeah. It's at the public's parking lot crying,

while reading this with my wife. So you did see all these words? Oh, yeah. My buddies were like, fire in these like screenshot and I'm over to me. And I'm just like, oh my gosh. It was, yeah, I got 16 retweets, 23 likes, and 24 replies. So the ratio is not true.

Yeah, it's not a great ratio. But I remember I asked you last year, I asked you what the best round of golf you've ever witnessed was. Hands down, hands down, final round. We're playing best ball and I kid you not. We didn't use a single one of my shots. We shot 60. We shot or single one of my holes. Like we tied on a few holes, but he was, I went, did the math the other day. He birdied one, he flipped out for eagle on two, and made birdie.

So he's two under, part three, stuffed it on four, part three, made birdie. I make birdie on four, but he rolls in like a 50 footer for eagle, on top of me. So he's five under through five. He birdies. Three of them. So he's 500 through five. He birdies. Yeah, 100% freedom up. And then he keep birdies six and seven.

And then par's eight. He had a good look, but he missed it. And then he hits it to like four feet on nine. And then makes another 15 footer on 10. And he's nine under through 10. And I'm like All right Six shot lead. Let's go guys Go team and then the next hole we get to 11 and he hooks it left in the trees

And I'm like I looked at my wife and I honestly was like this is my chance like I'm gonna prove myself to Cooch here And I didn't have a face of playing with it I didn't know what I didn't know what to do in signbursts out there. Just walking around, just like, coaches making pus, he's just shaking his head, just like smiling the whole time. And he's walking like inside the ropes,

whatever, just being the man. And anyways, we get the Levin fairway, I hit it on the green and coach like hits it way right of the green, chips up to, I don't know, 8, 10 feet. And I hit my first pot like three feet by, but I had to wait for the other group to play. We're playing with Fabrizio Zanotti, who's been like kind of deaf on the European

to it recently, in his partner from Paraguay. And anyways, Kuchten rolls in the 10 footer for par, and I just scoop up my coin. I'm like, oh, never mind. And then the best part is we get to 18. Now we got like a five, like legit five or six shot lead. And I hit it on the green to probably 15 feet. And he's about the same.

And I was like, join me, like, I'll putt first. He's like, no, I got it. Cash. I just scoop up my quarter with my putter and go shake hands. I'm like, oh, that's the easiest 30 grand I've ever made. What was his vibe like coming into the week? I mean, he was he pumped up to be there?

Was he just going through the motions? I honestly thought he was going through the motions. I assume he was getting paid. He was the nicest guy in the world. Hem and Steinberg took my wife and I did inner two nights and we had police escort through downtown Mexico City. South there and talked to him for a few hours. Steinberg had to catch a flight back to see his daughter's volleyball game the next day

so he's taking the red eye. So he had to leave dinner early and coach just sat there and talked to Sarah and I for another hour, hour and a half probably. And anyways, he, I thought he was just kind of going through the motions. We're out there. First day, he's just kind of plotting along. He's even down the left trying to hit those fades, but you're at such high elevation.

They're not cutting. He's just hitting on the left trees every day or every hole. And he didn't play well the first day. And then the second day was better. Third day was better. And obviously the fourth round, but we had dinner before the last round. He's like, I didn't come down here just to play. I came here to get my name on the trophy. And I was like, all right, man, like, cool.

I'm in on that. Let's do that. Let's do that. And then he goes out and shoots 60 the next day. He made a bogey. That should, the other time I could have helped him. He was right in the middle of the fairway and then he missed the green with a wedge and I was over chopping in the trees,

like just trying to get down as fast as I could. Anyways, I hit it out to like six feet, I got to the bunker and I had that left for par and he did chip it by and missed it. So I was like, I gotta make this for par and obviously I missed. So we shot 60 with a bogey and I'll take my bogey. So I did help. Can you

attest that he's not like oh poop oh shucks like oh crap. This this moment was what made me enjoy him even more because I were playing as the third round on number 15 and he caches another 15-20 footer and there's several hundred people around. They all go, cooch, whatever. He's walking to the hole and he's got this smile on his face and he mouths these words and I have no idea what it is, but I'm watching him and we're walking off the green back to the next tea and I'm like, hey, what would you say there when you made that putt? And he looks at me and he's been saying, oh, fart.

Oh, dang it, Maddie the whole time. Like, whatever. And we're walking back there. And I say, what would you say after that putt went in? And he goes, I'm a f***ing f***ing f***ing. And I was like, excuse me? Like,

it's just something I said. It's just something I said. It's just something I'm not shalant. And I was like, what? And I was like, how me? Like, just something I said. Just so nonchalant. And I was like, what? And I was like, how'd you come up with that? And he's like, it's kind of a go-to for me when I kind of need a little kick in the pants. Like, to get me going, he's like, the cameras don't pick it up. Like, I'm smiling.

I was like, what? I'm like, what? And it was, I was crying on the next T-Box. I was laughing so hard. And that's just him. Like he was super chill the whole time, telling jokes, whatever. And I think he's just toying with us all

with his little remarks on camera just to kind of get a rise out of people. That's like my favorite story. It was. The big cat flew in for the banquet, right? Fluin for the gala or whatever you say that, gala. And it was probably the most uncomfortable I've ever been in a setting because there are hundreds of middle aged old grown men, Mexican men, that

are sneaking up behind him while he's trying to eat his dinner, popping their head up and having their friend across the table take a picture of him. And it was, I was like, within a couple feet of him when they were walking in because I was like meetin' Steinberg and shaking hands with coach and I, Tiger was just getting swarmed and he looked like he was, he had just finished a surgery so he was, his eyes were kind of out of it. He was just there to be there. And put the money in the bag. Yeah, I think he was like flew in

and then was flying right back out. But I mean, these men are swarming him. And it was, I looked at my wife, I was like, I wanna go say hi, but first off, he's not gonna remember. And second off, these guys are vultures, but he was there. He kind of waved everybody and then pieced out. I've uncovered some sort of irregularity here.

You know, everybody's playing as international teams. And one of the Mexican teams, Roberto Diaz and Yoshio Yamamoto. Oh, Yosh. Yeah. Is he really Mexican? Yes. I know he sounds very like Nintendo, but No, he is he's Yosh played some hooters tour back in the day. Actually, it was a really good player. I don't know what he's up to now, but uh, wow, okay. Yeah, they're audited but uh, well, okay. We have it. We have it. Audited. I was the only one.

Sure. It's a special project division. Yeah. Luke, you, we talked about it in the live show, but you played with Tiger 2014 Honda, is that right? What's your? Yep. 20, 20, 20.

Yeah. All right, so you, you're paired with him for the third round. What was, were you like, super anxious going into that next set? Super pumped. Like, yeah, we're like barely made a cup, made column number like 7 30 t time. Whatever. I'm like This is so many people surrounding on number one like you kind of at 7 30 at 7 30 in the morning It's like you're freaking idle when you're growing up It's just like man. What am I gonna say to him like I like high? I'm Luke like you're tiger

Like I know everything about you. Does he say his name when he introduces him? Yeah, he's like, hey, I'm Tiger. And kind of went back to his corner of the tee box. I'm like, OK, I'll go back to my home. LAUGHTER And I was just like, just start playing and asking about his kids on the second hole.

And since then, he opened up. Right. And I just start talking. And he told me some funny stories here and there. It was awesome. It really was. But we shot matching 65s, one of the favorite goss shots I've ever hit.

I think I said it on the live show. But number 15, it was a front-right pen, wind, an off-ride or something like that. Hit this hold cut six after he stuffed it like five feet and stuffed it too. And I was like, yeah, come on. Were you like more nervous, like that day

than a normal round of golf? 100%. Yeah. But then like he was more nervous in front of Tiger or the crowd that was around. The front of Tiger. Yeah. Honestly, this might sound like a tool statement, but like,

and the crowd is like, I don't make me nervous so much. Kind of thing. It's just kind nervous so much. Kind of thing. It's just kind of fun, like, kind of thing. But yeah, I forget what I was gonna say, but that was. You grin in like a little school game, play him a tiger, like Christmas morning over here. So, yeah, tell us the story about the 18th hole.

Like you were doing the math, right? On whether or not you were gonna be paired with him again? Yeah, I mean, I was, I was probably like 280, 90 holes, back pin, and I'm like, I should lay up. If I was playing with anyone else, I'd lay up. I'm playing with Ty Woods, so I'm like, I'm gonna send it. We're gonna edit this part out.

Yeah, he got to. And like, so I hit it, obviously, I lacked pop, so it's in the front bone. And like, I think he might might have hit it in the bunker, so he laid up, hit it like 20 feet short of the pin. I'm one back of him. So I'm like, all right, come on Luke, like get this freaking ball to the down.

Let's play with him and get him out. And I hit this 40 yard bunker shot with water behind it. I'm like, not the greatest bunker player at this time. I'm liable to bone one. And I just hit this perfect 54 and like, stops like a foot in front of the hole. And I'm like, yes, suck it. And then he said, not 20 footer,

I'm rooting against him so much. I miss him, I miss him. Yeah, please. Just top it. So then you showed up the next day, and you were wearing red. I did show up the next day. Yeah, and you're wearing red, right?

Yeah. So I go home and back to hotel, it's like, what a day, I'm just freaking cloud nine. I'm like getting the closet back. Oh, what's the options here? Kind of thing. I earn or whatever. And it's like, black pants, red shirt.

Oh, that's clean. I'm like, really? And it's nice. It's going to gonna be that guy. So, never go full pasture-greet. How do I hat on? So, that's all good. No, but that next day was a little different story, obviously.

But, didn't know anything was wrong until the third tee hit the worst drive I've ever seen, with, like, just pounding it. Like, just pounding it in the wrong wrong if you've ever played three at PJ national there's a big pond way right and like he might have hit it right at the pond like I'm not sure Kind of thing like and it's like I think you've been hit a good and it's like what the heck was that like and then you start picking up the ball weird But he's grinding his butt off. He what's your on 13? But he was grinding his butt off. He was on 13. That was my 10 seconds or one second of fame. My little hand gets in there for the sports center club.

So I was Zach gets in there with a nice like, I think you pointed out a nice towel. Yeah, the comic ever nice little tap. I had respect there. You caused the downfall. You were the one that came in. Well, you were in Zach player. Zach played with him when he shot 85 of memorial Wow You kind of culpable here

Yeah You need to get it to you He's just a guy like he's just he's really cool and like just like a guys guy and just like He's just a guy, like, he's just, he's really cool. I'm like, just like a guy's guy. And just like, he's kind of like, if anything, a little, I guess nerdy, like a little bit. Like, he's such a different person once he gets outside. And like, once the media gets around him,

he puts on this face and just like, he's not gonna give you anything. But like, to like, inside the ropes and like, when people can't hear him and stuff, he's awesome. And like, it was by far the most fun round of golf. I've ever played. What did he call you?

Lukey? Oh, a good question. I don't remember. I mean, I was just thinking what I'm going to say next to him at all moments. I asked him a question and thinking of the next question. As he's responding. Like, just like, I just want to keep this combo going, please.

Do you think he'd recognize you? Like today, would he, do you, have you seen him keep this combo going, please. Do you think they'd recognize you? Like, today, what do you, do you, have you seen him since then? Does he say hi to you? I don't think you'd recognize him. I don't, I mean. Yeah, I think if you like heard my name and like, kind of saw me, I think you'd be like, oh, yeah, I remember.

You're like, tiger, I'll be at the red lobster. I'm not back, I can't. This is like, actually. God bless. So what brought you guys to the Jacksonville? So I'm like, where you live now? How long have you been here? And what's the motivation for living in this area?

I've been here for about four years. I out of college. I was living now in my suitcase. Just bounced to turn my parents to my brother's house. And I'm like, well, I need to go to some line. I need to get my own life here. So I was just going to go to TPC. We awesome deal. We get to play here for free.

So these are Scotstar Jacksonville, being from Midwest, a little easier to come here and freaking love to as soon as I got here. Move to the beach a couple of years ago and the beach is awesome. Like it's such a cool vibe. It feels like home. I look forward to coming home or before I go back to Central Illinois. Love Illinois, but I didn't really have a home and it's like, how soon can I just go back and play. Right. And you hoops? Yeah we probably moved here about the same time. I was July or first of July in 2014. Got married and we were the same kind of deal. My wife's a nurse and so it was like all right what do you want to do? And I was like well

we can move to Jacksonville. I can practice her free and we just try something new. And we did, and we've been here ever since. We've honestly fallen in love with it too. The facilities we have are too good not to be here. If you don't have anything tiny down, I know there's been some more people move here recently and it's getting a little crowded, but the far actually stinks. Like, don't come here stay away now it's maybe people in line at

Sun deli yes I'm getting a little upset about it yeah it's been awesome the facilities are great you can travel out of here and meta there's a lot of good golf people here as far as friends go plus Plus the killhouse now. Killhouse, yeah. Yeah. Shout out to 100 North. What's something that most people don't know about the web tour, or maybe a misconception about the web tour? I would say, I don't feel like they get enough respect like the players. Like, it's not, it's not an easy route to get

here, to get to the web. To get to the web, you can get like some status, but to finish top 45 at Q-school from the number of people that sign up and granted it's a little easier nowadays than what it used to be when you could get a PGA tour card, because I remember at first and second stage, you may get like 18 guys through at first stage and 13 at second stage. And now it's kind of 20 something and 18 at second stage. But you got to bring it every round of Q-school. You can't just like chop your way through. And then to get top 45 at Q-school, I think this year it took 14 or 15 under. Granted, the courses were fairly easy

from what I heard out in Arizona, but still you got a lot. I mean, that's a lot under par for four days to just earn eight starts. And I know what's the reshuffle happened after those four events and a buddy of mine, Sam Delvalle, made 25 grand. He's sitting at 27th on the money list maybe, and top 25 at the time of the reshuffle

would get exempted into the events. So he's made 25 grand through four events, and he's not in Mexico currently. And so it's just, I feel like people think it's a, you don't like, you don't have to be great to play on the web, but you gotta be great to play on the PGA tour, but I think you have to, you earn it to get out here, and you have to be great to play on the web, but you got to be great to play on the PGA tour, but I think you earn it to get out here, and you have to bring it each week to stay

and especially to move up to the next level. Jacob's stupid love, too. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Realize that. I was probably one of them that didn't, I didn't realize the path at how hard it is, Q-School. I'm lucky.

I've only had to go, I never had to go to Q-School, and I had to go 16. Just I had four starts, I finished outside the 150 on the PJ Tour list and I'm like freaking, it's like dang, you got a freaking ball out there to like, and then I just went straight to finals. I've never gone through first, second, like it's legit, it's a like that's a lot of good players out there. Second stage is the worst event of Anyone's career I would say was that because you have you paid your five grand You've made it through one stage and you know if you can just make it through this Anything can happen because every year guys with conditional status get their PGA to work hard. It happens Every single year.

And so all you need is one start and you can parlay that into a full year. And if you miss by one at second stage, you have nothing. And it is, it sucks. Like it is, it's an awful feeling going into that last round. Even if you're inside the number or if you're outside the number, the two years I made it through the first year, I was outside the number and I shot 66 to make it on the number. I actually ch I made it through the first year I was outside the number and I shot 66 to make it on the number. I actually chipped in on my last hole thinking I only had to make par.

And got done and it got me through. And then the next year I was playing well, but then I was leading going in the last round but you're like, now I can't blow it. If I blow it, I don't have anything, type deal. It's just the most pressure I've ever felt, like even in contention in a web of enter, whatever, like it's more pressure at second stage,

just for the fact that if you make it, you have a chance, if not, you're back to the drawing board. So psychologically this year, and you've got status for the whole year, like you feel freed up a little bit? To the... Yes and no, it was kind of weird, I thought that I would. I thought that I'd be like, You've got status for the whole year. You feel freed up a little bit? Yes, and no, it was kind of weird. I thought that I would.

I thought that I'd be like, I got all these events. This is going to be awesome. I can just kind of free wheel it. And then you go down the first event, and you miss the cut. And you're like, OK, let's get this together because now you've never had these events before. You want to take advantage of them.

And now you're going to miss a cut. And unfortunately I played alright the second week, but it's done. Now I feel like you're expected to definitely finish top 75 and I don't want to say get your tour card, but I feel like it's a, I feel like you should type to. You have all these events and if you're playing well I expect myself to play well and And I would say Luke's probably the same way like we want our pj tour cards bad We want to get out there. He wants to get back out there. I want to get out there for the first time and and

Give it a go. So you kind of put that extra pressure on knowing that now I have all these events I have the best opportunity. I've ever had and like it's time to get it I have all these events. I have the best opportunity I've ever had and it's time to get it. Um, kind of going back to last year with the Bahamas events. Can we talk about those events last year? I assume I've never played in conditions like that. 100%. What would be the conditions? I mean, you're right on the ocean. One of the most beautiful places, but it's remote. Like, most remote places I've ever been. There's sandals. If sandals didn't exist on that island, like, there's just huts, kind of thing.

And like, you're right on the ocean. There's nothing stopping that wind. And like, it is like a heavy 35 sustained 50, 60 gusts. Like, it's just like, you can't hit golf shots in that. Fairways are nice and wide though, right? Oh Yeah, it's past pounds. I've done about like I don't know, but like I mean we're playing tease up Like the 12th hole and you can play it's probably like 4 30 we play like two tease up at 380 I hit driver 3 iron two good shots short of the green

I could just like, you couldn't move the ball. Like a little 80 yard shot and you're hitting like six iron. So it's like, it's freaking nuts. And like, I had to hit it over a house on 12 this past year from the past year. I had to take it over the back deck. Fortunately, it wasn't that about it. I did actually from an ant hill, which gave me a little better anger. Didn't have to take it over the middle of the house. It got to go over the corner.

I mean, some guys last year were hitting it in the water on purpose, on one hole, right? To just get to the drop area. Ooh, I would know that. Really? I mean, if you could have hooked it on 12, it was probably a better play. Like, hopefully that water and got to hit your third

from a tighter line, because that's... Nobody realizes that all of it was off-carried because he had to keep re-teeing. Yeah. That was the thing, that's the thing about that course. So like, it's basically, it's not hazard around the whole place. So it's like, generous fairways, but hit the fairway

or else. And like, you cover stuff like right off the tee box. And like, you it like hazard left, but the wind's whipping 60 off your left. Like what are you gonna do? Like got to kind of start it left. And if you don't pull it off, rights, loss ball, you just sit there and keep hitting

until you hit the freaking fairway. And you're just like, there were stories about guys not having enough balls. Oh, 100 for the week. I'm straight up Greg Eason, one of the nicest guys ever. But yeah, he 91 95. Yeah, he shot a third his first round in abaco. He shot 90 and it brought down

a scoring average. But he's and then he shoots Bogey 360. He's literally the nice guy. He's all here in the year. He's off. He shot a 60. I want to say he shot 60 for final round of New York last year To finish like top 15 or top 10 or something like he he has the game But those courses if you have a squirtle you off the tee are Get it in the hole like it won't end. There's no point you have to hit it

Like it's not like you just drop it up there and like freaking keep going What would you shoot last year? I think I should have 78 80 and barely miss a cut You're sick Probably had me like 18 under par Everyone like I was funny on the on the TV coverage. Like, they were falling, so guys, because... They're like freaking 15 over. I remember, it's like, I'm like,

oh, I'm 500. They were falling Martin Pillar. And he was at like six under and they go cut to him. And he's on number nine and he's like dropping from the house or hitting it out. Like, chunk up short of the green, whatever. And they're on the thing, they're like, yeah, we just talked to Martin Sc caddy and he's a six over

He shot in 184 And honestly six over might have been third place I mean like keep showing Countels and shut to under for the week. That's so impressive He's any made of lunch box and tough greens make putts on I mean past columns kind of hard They kind of have to jam them in and like I I mean, it's still a good luck making a putt on 14 when it's this ocean spray, hidden in like a 30-mon or a gust on you know, like. So on that note, what was the worst weather day? If you Thursday morning was by far the worst, supposedly, I wouldn't out there, so I don't know. I think that afternoon was way harder. So on that note, what's your favorite event on the web tour?

Oh, shit. Cash turn. Boise. Boise is fun. It's a cool town. Boise is sneaky cool, hidden jam, but the course just feels like it's like back to back, par-fives, two and three. It's just like, man, am I going to shoot 59 today? If I get it going, like, it's this fun. And, uh, it's the mustache contest, also. Must, uh, you talk.

I'll let you talk. You talk, yeah. Just forget. Yeah. I think you're going to get your favorite. My favorite, I would have to say, um, Portland, big fan of Portland, the best course on the web tour.

That course is fantastic. My sister lives out there and downtown Portland's all those strange places. It's really awesome. Just a lot of weird people. But awesome event. The course is great. It feels like a tour event to me. what I would imagine. There's courses like that. Yeah. There's trailers everywhere. They kind of have the, you're pulling in and it feels like you're going into a tour event, not a web event. At least to me, like the grandstands around 18, you see as you're pulling in, it's kind of surrounded. They got the big hospitality area by 10 and 11 and take a big beer garden, whatever. So pretty cool.

And then, all right, so with that kind of that summer stretch when it comes back domestically, couple new events this year, Savannah and Mississippi. But then once you get into kind of May, June, July, August, you're on the road for, what, 15, 16 weeks in a row, if you don't take a week off. How do you pack for that? How do you, you just load up the car and last year, maybe my wife and my dog, we just, we drove them basically all. I think we only flew to one. So we just freaking throw clothes in the car and go like I pack maybe like

12 12 shirts 12 pants just to switch it up. I don't look exactly the same every week and like it's just to keep your Sunday red Yeah Sunday red black yeah red and black baby. He brought the dog with you. Oh, yeah. He gets a back seat and then he just find pet friendly Hotels and I know all the pet friendly hotels. I can you know Do you book all your hotels and stuff on your own? Like do you, big rewards member? Like how's all that stuff going? I try to book Marriott. Shout out to me.

Yeah. I'm trying to get your friends away. Not anymore. No, I've never gotten that one. No, I book everything. I like, maybe a little control freak on that stuff, so I like to kind of know what I'm doing and get the best rate. So I'm a little frugal.

Hubert E. Drive as well. I did most of them. Yeah, I kind of, I will this year, yeah. Shout out to Shepherd's GMC. Tom Shepard up in Kindlesville, Indiana, anybody looking for a new truck? I'll let you boy. But no, I will, I'll drive most of them this year. It set up well to be able to do that and I don't know. It's it just makes life easier having all your stuff like you can you can fly live out of suitcase for

Two, three, four weeks, but once you get longer than that, it gets really monotonous. So at least you can get in your truck car, whatever you got. And I'll travel with my fishing poles and go find a place to fish or whatever after rounds. What's top has the best fishing? Hmm. Louisiana actually has a couple in the neighborhood that are pretty good. I've heard more good stories about the food. I've got Louisiana food. Louisiana's top too. Louisiana food's my couple in the neighborhood that are pretty good For more good stories about the food

Louisiana Louisiana stop to Louisiana foods my favorite of the year like not even up for today It's it's so good Shitty matcha. Yeah, they make this big Corn mock chew or whatever for the pro am in this giant pot that everyone gets to stir. I mean it's the biggest stable. It's huge. But yeah Louisiana is the best food of the year and I would have to say Louisiana fishing is pretty good. Both of you guys have had your wives on the bags at one time or another. How is that? You find that that's like a kind of relieve some of the pressure and you guys communicate well or is it like you're in the car afterwards you're like can't believe you didn't make that conquer.

I had a number on that. So far, Kaitlin's caddy for the first four and it's been good. I didn't know what to expect. She's a good player too. She played it all night. That's how we met. She knows what she's doing. We went and played last night. She didn't play too good. She was nervous. We played in front of... She isn't played in front of anybody. She's excited to have her season in since college. She hit the worst shot I've ever seen her hit on three and she's just getting to the carpet. I'm not hitting another one. can't play in front of people

It was awesome, but she gets the game and She kind of I can be I've been hard on caddies before I can be a little psycho out there So I think we all can but I don't know But no it went well like she's getting caddy in Mexico and Depending on and figure it's a little hard with the dog or whatever. I'm on the road. We'll see how good you're not taking the dog to Mexico. Oh, no, okay.

That'd be it. Well, we're driving, yeah. Right around through Texas. My wife's done it. She knew nothing of golf when we met. Never touched a club, never been on a golf course. And his learned the ropes. Yeah, and now she caddyed for a win in Columbia. She was there at the Americas Cup.

And she also caddyed for Wichita last year and I had my best finish on the web. So she's been on for more of my good play than anyone else. She's won the 69th Colombian Open. Yep. And then didn't go back to defend. I didn't. I did not.

I was the shrimp one the next year. Which he deserved it. Yeah. Yeah. No, she was there on that day and she checked her little heart rate thing on her Fitbit, the first hole the last round when we're walking off the green. And I could see the look on her face. Like she was terrified of being out there.

And it was at like 190. Like she was like, you need to sit down is what it was telling her. And she's like, I'm freaking out out here. It's like it'll be all right. I know we're running a little short on time, but I did want to ask you a couple good stories from the Latino-America tour.

You've got someone from Down in Cordova, Argentina. And as far as I was actually thinking about this last night, in case you asked me, we rented a car in Panama the year I went down there. Me, Kent Bull, Dan Masiata, and Aaron Flinger. And we had to drive three and a half hours into the jungle with no map and GPS and I was the only one that brought my ID down there even though can't set up the rental car So I was the one that had to drive and we're just driving through like downtown Panama City across the canal and Out into the look ago wrong middle and nowhere. Yeah, like there's just some weird things.

Some weird things. I did, this is probably my best story. I was in Buenos Aires, Argentina, the week after Kent won the Argentina Open and this was my 9 out of 10 weeks in a row and we're playing in Luján and no offense to Luján but it's miserable. There's nothing there. It was like a 50 minute ride from Buenos Aires and no one wanted to do it. So we stayed at this house on the golf course.

We find a guy that has a house there real weird. And Fleaner steps through the shower the first night we're in the house and breaks the shower. I'm sleeping in a room with Andy Hess and two beds in the room. He's a character. Yeah, character. My bed has wool sheets that we didn't have AC in our room and so we had to have the windows open so there's mosquitoes in there. I'm laying down. This is the night before the first round. I'm laying in bed, wake up at one in the morning sweating and it's like in my ear and I'm like I can't do this. I'm freaking out like I go downstairs. at one in the morning sweating and it's like mmm in my ear. And I'm like I can't do this.

I'm freaking out, like I go downstairs, I lay on the couch and the couch is a one-seater. So my head's hanging off the back, my like from knee down is hanging off the other side. And there's an AC unit there, so there's only reason I'm there. And I'm looking up flights to fly home on Thursday night after the first round.

And this is Wednesday night. So I walk out to the course and I'm going to walk to the range and I'm just in a terrible mood. And I hit balls and I go up to the locker room like on my way to the tee and I take out my three wood, three iron, four iron, six iron, nine iron and gap wedge and pitching wedge. And I play with six clubs. Just, I don't know why. I just didn't care.

I had zero care at this moment. And I go out and I played the front nine. I shot two over. I made a double because I plugged in the lip of the bunker on one hole. But played kind of nice. It was a golf course where you needed a driver and a pitching wedge for every par four,

a seven iron for every par three, and every par five was like driver, maybe hybrid. So it's literally all you needed architectural genius. It was, every hole was 410 yards, par four, and every par three was 180. So anyways, I did that and we got to number 10 and they had a rain delay and I went back and I called my wife and she booked me a flight home Thursday night and I flew back to the States. Wow, it was just complete eject. There was, I had nothing left. And that was it. Luke, is that a similar, like when you played like the Boreal?

Is that a similar? Yeah. They didn't have the Buckeye milkshake. I was a psych. I'm out. Pretty simple. Flying home. It was a disaster, to say, I'm out. I'm out pretty similar. Flying home. It was a disaster to say the least. Most of the places were awesome.

That one was not. Had you traveled a whole lot? Worldwide, for me. I'd never been out of the country. I wanted to Jamaican on our honeymoon. And that was the only time, as my first time to get a passport. And then I just went headfirst out.

Kordo, Argentina, some. In the middle of nowhere. Yeah. Yeah. Cordo of some, the cabbies would rip you off there. One guy got a pretty bad Peter Campbell. The cabbie made him pay him for like driving from the city to pick him up and then to the golf course and then all the way back and he was like no, so the cabbie just takes his

golf clubs from him when he's at the range. This is the on's at the range. This is on hell's range. And this why I asked this because I wanted to give you an opportunity to air out yeah so um cabbie takes his clubs and won't give him back and so Peter is like he's trying to make him pay like 400 Argentine and pesos and it's a 50 peso ride something like that like some outrageous number So it gets out on the range and the cabbie has holding his clubs and on hell speaks Spanish Whatever and the on hell is there and so Peter's trying to on hell for rare at two time major Yes Trying to tell him like hey this guy's trying to charge me for all this. Like, I just rode from the hotel in here.

I'm like, I'll go back and forth from the emergency and he's like, no, you need to pay the guy to 400, whatever pays us. And Peter's like, what? OK, like, I guess I don't have an option, but like, thanks for helping me out. I don't like, appreciate that. So yeah, like, it's just, I could probably go on and on, but it's a, it's a nice, it's well done.

Last year or two years ago in New York way, we ran out of house and I kid you not the spider that we killed in the house was the size of a small dog. It was hiding behind the air conditioning unit in Seth Fares room and it would crawl out of this hole and it was the blood spatter on the wall from when we finally got it. It was an hour ordeal. Kid you know, we had a hanger jabbing it behind the AC unit to try to get it out of this hole and it did, killed it with the sandal and it was like, it looked like someone had been murdered in the room.

Did you worry about like the spider having a family? Yes, I slept so bad. I wasn't even in that family. I was so bad. I wasn't even in that room, but I slept so bad that night. Patrick Nukum was staying with us, slept up on the couch in the living room, and we didn't have AC upstairs. And he had 80 mosquito bites on his body the next day when he woke up.

I was so bad. So bad. It doesn't sound. But that was normal. I mean, that was kind of the way it was but it was the way it still is. It's way still is. It's way still is. Fortunately now I can at least stay at normal. Luke did you have a moment when you kind of went back from the PGA tour. You were all the PGA tour for what three years three full years kind of went back from the PGA tour. You were all the PGA tour for three years, three full years. Kind of went back to the web tour and you're like, shit,

we're back in Wichita. Or was there a moment where you're like, oh, I'm in a rental car, you're like, dang. I don't see cars? Oh, we don't have the Mercedes this week. Not bad. No, it was, the web is completely different from that. Yeah, you're just in like small America It's actually the web is like

Might be more fun like when you're at events. It's way more like everyone's bodies everyone's chill And it's like the whole town comes out like you're in Wichita or you're in Omaha Omaha is like in the whole town comes out and it's like their big event and everybody's You know, it's a party. Yeah, the Cox classic back in the day that thing look and that was like Phoenix is that the one with the the par three that everybody's around Yeah, oh Scarlett They didn't W they do that. Yeah, they did yeah

I said he did it. They would have it on this drivable par 4 and had a shot clock by the green. If you made an eagle they had like dollar beers for like 15 minutes. Well you're gonna say there's a shot clock and you were terrifying to that. Good poetry. I was fine in 12. Start having an in 14-ish. I got one more quick tidbit story from Guatemala. Probably the prettiest place I've ever been. Where you're on my say you're on the side of volcano you would legitimately on the side of an active volcano that erupts every 45 minutes to an hour. Like pluma smoke ash comes out lava flows like. He died course. No it is a

Perry die designed played with him in the program. Tronor gets there. Yeah, played with him in the pro-am, because it was the week after Mexico when I won. And he is telling me how to play his golf course on every hole. Like, where to hit it and all this. And I'm like, Perry, no offense. We don't play the same game. Like, I'm not going to hit a five-iron here. And whatever, we're there.

And you're bound to get a little sick at some point. And our house that we're staying in has like a pool, like one of those like waterfall pools, hot tub connected to it, it's sick a little place on the golf course. And I'm staying there with Kent Bull and Aaron Fleaner. And I'm not feeling the best, so I'm in the bathroom. And Kent comes around and he's knocking on the door. He's like, hey man, I gotta get in there. And I'm like, I best. So I'm in the bathroom and Kent comes running. He's knocking on the door.

He's like, hey man, I gotta get in there. And I'm like, I can't let you in here. Like I can't get up. And he's like, all right, like I gotta figure something out. So he goes, we got an outdoor shower. And he's butt naked. And an outdoor shower taking a dump in the bushes. And I have a picture of him standing like,

just so did Jack. And it is, it was, probably it's a top five funniest moments in my life, is the fact that he's like, I'm in the bathroom, he's next to me outside in the bushes, taking a dump. Like that's just, all right, we could do this for another three hours, I'm pretty sure. But let's wrap it at that.

Boys, thanks for coming over. Thanks for chilling in the killhouse and hope to do this again in the future. Good luck in Mexico. Thanks for having us. Give it a right club. Be the right club today. Yes.

That is better than most. How about it, Ian? That is better than most. How about in? That is better than most. Better than most.