No Laying Up - Golf Podcast - NLU Podcast, Episode 711: US Women's Open & John Deere Recap
Episode Date: July 10, 2023We begin tonight's live show recap pod with Randy, Tron, KVV, Cody and Jordan from Pebble Beach where Hawaii's Allisen Corpuz won the US Women's Open at Pebble Beach for her first professional win. Af...ter that, Soly takes the wheel and we're on to the PGA Tour where Sepp Straka fired a final round 62 to win the John Deere Classic. We also touch on all the action from LIV London, the DP World Tour, the recent departure from the PGA Tour's Policy Board and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Better than most. Oh, ladies and gentlemen, welcome into another edition of the No Lying Up Live Show,
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We are TC and I are here in the dog house.
Wolf Wolf, we got the sun shining brightly in our eyes.
We're looking out at Cypress Point.
What a week this was.
What a day.
Charlie Hole.
Yeah, we'll talk about Allison Corpus,
but Charlie Hole reaffirmed like life for me.
That was awesome.
Yeah, it really was.
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Am I even my guy Tommy?
Wait a little bit.
Including coming up just short, joining us all the way
from Florida, Mr. Chris Solomon, solid. Thanks for hopping on and being a part of this. How are you?
I wish I could have been there. I'll wait with you. I had huge film all week long. I feel like
I'm currently looking at two different composite sketches of DB Cooper with you guys here with
your shades on. Absolutely stunting on me.
But pleasure of a week.
Enjoyed watching it.
Enjoyed following along with all of your guys coverage.
Waking up to a show every morning was fantastic.
Also Corpus legendary performance.
Lots to get to today, big.
Lots to talk about.
I'm excited.
Yeah.
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And yeah, cheers boys.
Like I said, TC, this was a hell of a week.
Code man, he's running the ones and twos over here.
He'll pop in.
We had an awesome time out here in Pebble.
And I think, well, I want to ask you guys, Allison Corpus, it was a really, really, really good performance today.
And I know she might not be the winner.
Some people want, you know, she's shy,
she's not the most charismatic person,
but man, her play was deserving.
And I think we start there.
I mean, all credit to her.
She, she went out and she did the damn thing.
I don't, I don't know what else there is to say, really?
Only player in the field under par all four rounds.
Par or under par all four rounds.
69, 70, 71, 69.
Even, they got worn for slow play today.
And she didn't bat an eye.
She just kept on, you know, sped up a little bit,
but didn't affect her.
The birdie on 14, I thought was exceptionally impressive.
And then backs it up on 15 and just stuffs it in there.
It was like, there was no, no chance
of that tournament slipping away from her.
Even after, you know, 17 was playing really tough
for the ladies we can get to that.
But Sally, what do you think?
I think if you are a competitive golf coach at any level,
a team, a high school team, a college team,
a if you coach individual professional players up and coming players,
I would have find a recording of this performance,
find around performance and replay that for whoever you are teaching.
Like if you want to see the proper US open demeanor, it was Allison Corpus today.
I mean, there was not a change in her facial expression.
Probably until the 17th hole, she finally smiled after striping yet another five iron directly
at the pin.
There was no change in her tempo, maybe, maybe to a flaw at some point of them falling
a hole behind at one point.
I don't know if I could, if I could compliment that exactly, but the routine stayed exactly
the same.
There was no deep breaths.
There was no like this moment's too big.
There was none of that.
Everyone, we, if you watch a lot of this golf tournament this week, we saw everybody
fuck up.
Like at some point, everybody did something really dumb.
Everybody made a critical mistake
and you she made it look so easy. But when you've seen the context, we need a full context
of everyone we've seen fall part, not subplated incredible tournament, absolutely fell apart
on the back nine today. Rose never got anything going. G.I. Shin had an incredible bailout
into the ocean or she might have won this whole one this tournament. She didn't do that
on the eighth hole.
Allison Corpus was that today.
And I mean, I was listening to you guys show this morning
in the gym, you're talking about who's gonna win.
And I think even Friday night, I was like,
dude, it's Allison, it's her.
Like it's totally her.
And she just emphatically put her foot
on everybody's throat and the nicest possible.
And we've mentioned her name, you know,
half a dozen times this year of like,
hey, another like solid top 10 for Allison Corpus, you know, half a dozen times this year of like, hey, another like solid top 10
for Alison Corpus, you know, it kind of reminded me when Gary Woodland won here, where it just
wasn't like, he just wasn't missing shots. Like, I know she bogeyed, she bogeyed 18 both
Friday and Saturday and that was kind of the one. Mm hmm. Spot, where I was like, all right,
like those weren't great shots. But then, you know, even
like hitting driver today on 18 was like slamming the door.
We were all like, I can't believe she's hitting driver.
Uh, how would you guys play eight if you were three shot lead in a tournament at Pebble Beach
on the 18th? How would you play the whole? It would not, I would not be pulling driver.
I'd be getting it into a Wales blowhole. Yeah, I mean, like six iron.
Right, just just playing a shorter
claw about to that like right short fairway area.
But it was like, well,
when you've hit 85% of your fairways on the season,
I guess it's a little easier to pull driver in that situation.
And you got that low, like just low bullet shot in your arsenal.
I do want to say, so a couple of things. I thought Jordan Perez, who has been out here all week
with us. She's, she's writing tonight. She's not on the show. She's, she's, I believe,
going to write up a piece about Charlie Hall, which I'm really excited for.
But she had a piece on Allison Corpus that came out this morning, kind of set in the stage
for today's round.
And one of the quotes from Allison in that piece was, I'm quoting Corpus now, I honestly
still need to get a little bit more comfortable, I think, in contention.
So that's really been the focus this year, just really trying to put myself into that spot and then hopefully learn how to convert as it keeps happening.
And that's exactly what I mean, we saw her tied for the lead after the third
round at Chevron back in April. She came up short, she saw it 74 that day. But
man, she's a quick learner because today was rock solid.
It, again, it was impressive.
And the other point I wanna make out of this
is I think Jordan's piece does a really good job.
Yes, this was her first LPGA win.
Yes, obviously, her first major,
but she's not like a fluky winner.
She's not from out of nowhere,
Tron, as you said, you know,
we've been mentioning her a bunch this year. This has been slowly progressing and it's been a culmination.
It's never been sexy.
It's never been flashy necessarily, but she has just been steadily getting better.
Ever since she was at USC and you know, she played So I'm gonna friend who you just work for AJGA like she's played in like
Like almost as many top shelf like invitational AJGA events or like the cream
You know that's the cream of the AJGA she played in like three or four dozen of those
Yeah, I'm the way like a lot of reps a lot of learning you gotta compete how to win
It's you know sometimes kind of like really a voodoo, you got to compete, how to win. It's, you know, sometimes
kind of like really a voodoo. It's a slower simmer, right? Right. So yeah, sorry. I think, you
know, we'll play the over under a game, of course, a little bit further down.
We reached out to Neil. We reached out to Neil asking for his answer for how many majors,
what's the over under for Alison Corpus? Oh, he has set
the number at over under four and a half majors for Alison Corpus. I don't, I can't tell if
this is a bit for him or not. I don't, I don't know if he, if he's just fucking with
us at this point, but I would think the over under is probably like one and a half, right?
I mean, it would, it would undermine this achievement
to make it higher than that, right?
This was an incredible achievement
and this was very, very, very hard to do
despite the fact that she made it.
It was a perfect course for, and she's 25.
You know, it's not like, and I'll go back.
I inflated her age AGA numbers a little bit.
She played in 21 age AGA invitations,
but four time all American, age AGA invitations, but four time all American AGA two time AGA winner 16 top
fives 40 tournaments play it. That's a pretty illustrious. And listen, she in kind of, you know,
a great nod to symmetry with Michelle. We sang goodbye to the game this weekend. She broke
Michelle. We's record for being the youngest ever
qualified for US women's amateur pub links.
She was 10 years old.
I mean, she was, she was a prodigy, right?
A lot of these girls, they have immense junior talent,
junior success.
But yeah, she got to college and again,
she never won an individual national title, but she had
a good career.
She just kept getting better.
She came out, she earned her card in Q series, the year she graduated.
And last year was her rookie year on tour.
She finished within the top 60 in the race for the CME Globe.
Didn't win, had to run her up, had a handful of other really good finishes.
You know, it was a good, solid rookie season, not setting the world on fire.
And so you turn the page to 2023 and she's been in the hunt near the top of leaderboard
staying playing really steady, good golf.
And yeah, we get to a US open where it seems like a traditional US open winner.
It's somebody that is just steady and can be present and doesn't, you know,
isn't overwhelmed by the moment, isn't jittery, and that was her today.
I mean, I really like this win.
I don't think this is a bad winner.
I hope other people don't think this is like a quote-unquote bad winner or disappointing.
No, I think she's very deserving.
Not a bad winner, but not like the storyline that's going to hook people into women's golf. I think it's probably a fair place to
fair. For sure.
It wasn't a great leaderboard behind her either. It's not like there was some other, you know, aside from Charlie, of course,
which I can't make sense of. I've heard you guys talk about it all week. I can't really make
sense of I thought Pebble was a good, not great setup and good, not great test, incredible
venue and obviously elevated this event in a way that we've never seen before. But I haven't
really been able to make sense of the of many, how few like top 10 players in the
world were even remotely in the mix this all week. Like from the jump.
Listen, I think if anybody can definitively make sense of that, uh, would love that
invite him onto the show. I mean, that was, that was certainly the talk of the tournament,
especially those first couple of days. It was like, wow, like,
genuine co, I cannot believe she's playing this poorly.
You know, Nelly, we knew she was hurt.
She still might be battling some stuff.
I got some information for you for a genuine, co.
I guess she injured her shoulder up in Jersey, a baltas
role. That's the issue.
So she got a hurt wing.
She came down, spent all that time last week.
All those, what we said was she was playing tons of practice.
And she's actually getting a ton of rehab done. So she's injured. She knew she wanted
to play in this event. She was, she was injured, not her very much in injured situations.
So trying to figure it out.
How did you start to pile up?
That's the bummer.
And well, and I was going to say for some of the top players, Nelly, Lily, a few. It's,
yeah, it's a shame. But it's all a point
taken. I think we're going to, let's discuss the LPGA major situation. Because I think
that's a very interesting conversation. A few other things on LPGA's got a parody
problem. And we'll, I think, and we'll get to that if you'll allow me. So you know I like my, is it shot skand or stroke skand?
It's, it strokes but big, you're learning.
I don't want to, I don't want to put up any barriers
to entry for you getting deep into this statistical game.
I wake up every morning just smiling, hearing you host
the show, just falling back on stroke skand
to give us all that perspective.
I just, I made me, maybe so.
We're out there getting eyes on these. We're validating. Yeah, we're validating.
Gels are out there and then we're coming back and we're we're analyzing and putting the
data out.
The question funding is getting reports.
How's that?
How's the vision fund?
Like this year, this year over a over a rolling point this year.
You got to zoom out.
Russian.
You got to take a real macro broad view.
You know, Neal's, Neal's pimping a top 10 Ludwig play that he thinks is awesome.
You know, we have higher expectations for Ludwig than the top 10. We do. We do, but TCE as
as Ludwig fans. Yeah. Well, so I was going to say in the fourth round today, Alison, plus 1.75 strokes gained approach, which is phenomenal.
Which, like, our eyes saw that. It validates what our eyes saw.
And then putted the hell out of it plus 2.64 strokes gained, putting, I mean, just a great formula.
And again, she doesn't miss fairways. So yeah, it's like, where was she going to make a big mistake?
So yeah, it's like where was she gonna make a big mistake? After she got off the tee on 9 and 10, it was kind of like,
all right, like, I don't know, that's where Pebble a little bit
doesn't do it for me. It's like once you get through,
that stretch is so good. And then you get through like,
I don't know, like 11's even cool. And then after that,
I'm kind of like, all right, time to buckle down for this slog from 12 to
17, you know, yeah, it the interesting part of it was at least that it was into the wind and I thought we'd see more
Higher scores on the back nine on Saturday and Sunday and we didn't I mean they adjusted the tease
I thought it was still a good test, but
It just was not set up for a whole lot of excitement on that back nine.
And I'll tell you what, the women did not play anywhere near the wind that I had to brave.
I thought we were sold a bill of goods on some of the wind forecast.
I know, I know.
DC, weren't you the one selling it?
No, well, the national weather service in the mall, the USGA as well.
We're selling it.
So, you know, I'm, listen, I can only work with my suppliers.
Right?
Right.
We're only as good as the people around us.
Yeah.
And they're, you know, I'm parsing through.
I can evaluate my suppliers, but I can't change my supplier's
mid-tornament.
Right.
I'll say the other thing, you know, from talking to Beth Ann Nichols through the
years, she makes a good point.
And whether I like it or agree with it or not, I don't think it matters.
I honestly were starting to see it on the men's side with the USGA.
They haven't sought to embarrass players.
Um, enough enough for enough.
Yeah, I would say really at all, but certainly enough.
And I think that's especially true on the women's side. And Beth Ann's point that she's told
me through the years is listen, the US women's open is one of the prime opportunities to
get a lot of new eyeballs on the game and on these women. And it just doesn't serve the long-term interests of the sport to just make
them look bad. And seven players broke par this week. Yeah. I thought difficulty level was there.
I really thought so. It's especially seeing the trajectory that the women hit it and their spin
rates. Like that was frickin' tough. That really was. Greens were plenty firm. God, Randy, between the stats,
lotting the... I don't want to say I'm lotting.
I want to say I can understand their approach. It wouldn't be the approach I chose.
You know, I don't have to like it, but I understand it.
I think the setup could have been better on 18.
Could have been more variety on 18.
18 was not all that dynamic and 17.
Yeah, I think 17 as well.
I was glad they moved it up on 14.
I thought 14, when you give them the option there,
it actually plays tougher because you get up closer to the green.
I thought they could have moved four up one of the days
and played that as like a two, you know,
there's a box there like move it up to 260 year.
Right.
You know, but yeah, I don't know.
There's plenty of grapes I have with Pebble.
We don't need to do that tonight.
Gentlemen, I have something.
You talk about set up.
You talk about getting out there doing a little recon that we did.
We had a dial that week, but we also had a man on the ground, a guy who's on the ground every week during major championships. That's Kevin Van
Volk and Berg. We have him dialing in now. You guys want to bring him in yet? Yeah, bring
him in. Water's warm. Come on. Cody, are you over at Cypress right now? I am. What's up?
He's not allowed to film out there. Hello, fellas. How are you? Excellent. How are you? I am fabulous. Just got
done out hanging out with Alison Corpus. Good decent press conference. It was a little bit like
getting blood from a stone to get some interesting things from her, but we worked it I think pretty
well. It knows a lot of teamwork amongst the media to get her to tell some stories about herself.
Well, it was a lot of team work amongst the media to get her to tell some stories about herself.
You know, I think the thing my big takeaway from this week is I said this actually one
of the shows earlier, but it's worth repeating that I was walking with Nelly Corda earlier
this week and she sort of whispered to her caddy at one point, I am so tense.
I cannot calm down.
And I think that was kind of true of a lot of the top players.
They want this so bad that it sort of was hard for any of them to relax, whether it was Jen and Co,
or Nelly, or Lexi, like the US Open means so much to them.
And to Galison's credit, she was the one person
who was basically like able to keep calm
and be a stone cold killer throughout.
So that's why she won ultimately.
I think that's a fantastic point.
And I think just adding to that,
the first time they've ever been at Pebble Beach,
I think it was just even a heightened,
winning a US Open any year is gonna make you nervous and tense.
But when you come to an iconic venue,
it's the first ever playing here for the women.
I can see where, you know, we talk about in other sports,
when athletes just kinda want it too much,
right? And they tense up and they get away from what makes them great. I absolutely buy that
for at least part of a reason why we didn't see some of those big names maybe.
Yeah, I mean, think about like we were talking a lot of this week, whether it was on camera off
about what majors at women's, you women's golf mean a lot, whether
they have you on is like a fake major or not.
But I think you can put the US women's open well above all the others.
It is their masters, their everything combined.
And there's all dream of winning this tournament.
And the fact that it was a pebble elevated even further.
So I think that pressure on all that, I mean, I always think about when people were picking Rory to win a Port Rush.
I was like, I don't think you quite understand like Rory's DNA. Like, that's the exact opposite of the place where he could sort of figure out because he's too, he's emotional.
He carries with that stuff. I think a lot of women were sort of feeling that this week of like, oh my god, it's pebble. I want this one forever.
Yeah. Well, you mentioned Alison's press conference. Uh, there's Jordan.
Jordan, I thought your piece this morning was was bang on. I thought it provided great
context. And we were speaking earlier about, you know, this is a, oh, you, I'm going to tell
her what chicken here. So keep going. I'll just tell her well done can hear. So keep going. Okay.
Just tell her well done.
And we really hope to read a Charlie whole piece.
And we can also stunt on it.
And we apologize.
We formally apologize for not believing in Allison.
But we also we need a formal apology for her real trick on Benadette.
More questions here.
Jordan, they would like you to either apologize or defend Benadette and Moresc like you know I am the low way I'm this week guys are doing her dirty
here this is tough Benedetta I respect the comeback I do apologize I don't want
the Benedetta mob to come after me and so I understand I was really bullish on the league. That's cool.
Thanks. She can't hear you guys. Let her go. Apology accepted.
Let's, before we let Jordan go,
let's just biggest takeaway from this week.
Like, you know, obviously historic venue, historic moment,
Allison, someone who you have, I think better insight.
I mean, you were the one of the few people who has talked to her previously,
kind of no circle enough to follow their old career.
Like, what will be your big takeaway from this week? We were the one of the few people who has talked to her previously, who kind of know several enough to follow her old career.
Like, what will be your big takeaway from this week?
I think this, this was career changing, right?
Obviously.
And so, I think she's worked for this moment for an extremely long time.
She always had the game.
I think the conviction took a lot longer.
And there was a point that this almost never happened.
Like, she almost, you know, very much contemplated not turning professional.
And so I think, you know, against such an incredible
test of golf, like she came out and got it done.
And that's going to speak volumes towards, you know,
whatever legacy she ends up creating.
And this is so good for American golf too.
I mean, I know Allison can be a little shy in the pressers,
on the mic kind of thing.
And I noticed that she was really overcome with so much emotion and was pretty overwhelmed.
But I think this was a huge confidence boost.
This was just means so much to her.
I mean, really had kind of a late, not I would want to say break out.
There was definitely some ebbs and flows in her amateur career.
But I think this kind of reassures the decision
that she made and it's really powerful, truly.
Hang up, Tom, Jordan.
Yes, appreciate you.
Thank you, Jordan.
One thing I just followed with Jordan,
I think it's such a good,
she talked about it as good for American golf.
Allison is one of the few really thoughtful Americans out there
who follow, who is a big breath of life. She has two She's willing to sort of speak out on issues that are bigger than golf
and I think yeah definitely would you get her on the trap job to talk about that's more massive
supply chain management. We're looking to some weather suppliers, weather forecast. I
suppliers. I think that's going to be a good thing going forward for our sake for the media to
have someone who is able to kind of speak to bigger issues when they come up, whether it's, I
don't know, Saudi money might be one thing that's going to creep into more than the games
gaming more, like be interesting to hear what she would have to say about that.
Well, get your politics at my sports.
I know.
I can't be.
That kind of leads into something I wanted to ask you about in that, listen, she's shy.
And we know where she gets that from.
I mean, her father's...
Oh, that was a tough one.
Interview on 18 was just an electric factory.
And that's okay, right?
People are who they are.
I guess my question is,
I'm really fascinated where,
and how we make that distinction between
Alison Corpus, oh my God, quiet killer,
kind of being in on that shyness, if you will.
And Allison Corpus, a boring winner,
like I didn't like this.
I'm really curious where we're gonna fall out
because I think leading into today,
I don't think a lot of people, nothing against
her, but I just think a lot of people weren't necessarily rooting for her as the winner because
she maybe isn't going to give you a lot. And I'm just curious your thoughts.
I think if your personality is not effusive, I mean, I think we could say,
comfortably say that she's like the opposite of Charlie Hall
in terms of like their personalities,
that you need to win a lot, right?
It needs to sort of be, you know,
an ice cold killer kind of thing.
And so if Alson is at a moment where she's going to continue
to sort of be relevant in majors and that this season
and overall, I think, has lends itself to that,
then that could be part of the sort of narrative of who she is. I'm like, hey, I think, has lends itself to that, then that could be part
of the sort of narrative of who she is.
I'm the one who holds my shit together in the tough moments.
I mean, I had a really interesting sort of discussion with her,
Cady, Jay Monahan right after,
an exclusive interview with Jay Monahan.
For Jay Monahan between the Randall Stevenson stuff.
Yeah, I think he was a back to work.
It didn't get a chance to ask about Randall resigning.
So I should have really dropped the ball there.
He won the caddy award, which, you know, I think the caddy award should go to.
It should be separated from who wins.
I thought Charlie was fantastic.
He was a top bloke.
So he said when they talked about going on the clock, he said, I look, I'm going to be really honest.
I had to go to the bathroom really bad after 11.
And he was like, I had to run up the hill.
He's like, this is the worst possible time, but I really have to go to the bathroom.
And so he ran back to the tee, whatever.
She's between five and six iron.
They had already sort of, you know, they had to be behind the group in front of them.
She backed off because the wind died down and the USJ person came over and said hey, you're on the clock
It happens again. You're gonna go stroke penalty and he said I did not know that like I I got to be honest
like I win on the LPJ we get fined for you know a bad time and
So he was like really sure to shook at that moment. He like, that was the moment when we were both really feeling the pressure. She hits a pretty good
shot there in two puts and he was like, after that happened, I was finally able to relax. I was
like, we got this because if she could sort of overcome that, then we're fine. And that
was kind of a cool thing. They're the ones who handled like the adversity in that moment,
the, you know, in the fall around. That was a one kind of moment of like holy crap. We could become a huge story
here if we get stocked, depending on this.
I mean, speaking of kids, there's so much pizza that just entered the media center behind
you. Like, oh, my God, little nearest.
So, yeah, last, last year, so when I wasn't eating any carbs and eating pizza and now, I
don't know, I might have to get to dive into that later.
So, with my luck, I'm sure this will be something cultural that I'll
offend somebody in some way. We got to settle on one way to spell Allison, because this
is not it. A L L I S E N. I can't do it. I can't, it auto corrects me every time I try
to type it. Let's, let's all get on the same page here and say we can't spell out.
We need to, we need to standardize Allison. We need to standardize Megan.
We need to standardize Caitlyn. Possibly Jeff.
Um, no, like, yeah, we, this is like the third way to spell it.
And like two ways is fine, but three ways is that we cannot have that.
We cannot.
We need to standardize Philip one L or two.
Call one L or two.
Sadly, I had Allison with a YSL and they've
Solomon Babypool. So I guess I lost.
I lost. That would be great.
A great ode to the current events. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, KVV, I know anything else you want to impart on us
before you get busy, right? And Charlie,
tell us about Charlie. Yeah.
You know, there was a brief moment when I thought
that Charlie was going to really just keep slam
in the accelerator down.
She just got her drives license recently,
so that's, it's relevant.
Yeah.
And I thought, you know, I got to go follow her
because this could be a really kind of cool iconic thing.
And I was right there on 18 when she hit that shot
and she and her caddy, sorry, the first shot of the drive,
she didn't caddy thought, oh, it's perfect. Nobody deal. You could go up
there, sitting at the bottom of the tree. And I thought it was really cool that she was
like, you know what? Fuck it. Let's go for it. And she ripped a three-way to remember.
You could hear the crowd be like, oh, I don't, I know it sort of peeled left into the
bunker there. But I thought that was kind of awesome. You know, it wasn't quite the
animal in the cat, sort of ripping it on the green. But you know, she could have protected the money or there or whatever. She could have, you know, figured
it, but she decided I'm going for this. And I think that was kind of a cool indicative moment
of a fool. She almost pulled her off. She is. Yeah, she really almost did. And I mean,
Jordan's going to write a, I think a really great, Charlie Hall thing. And that will probably
be the start of the story because that was such a cool moment. Well, she delivered the line
of the tournament standing there under the tree.
She said, shy kids don't eat sweets or don't get.
I didn't get, wasn't close enough for that.
So that's awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which I will say, shy kids also do get the US women's open trophy.
So that was sick and by last week.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I will say, last question before we, before you go, okay, V, your daughter was out there
for you this week. And I just was kind of curious. I don't know, I haven't listened to all,
I haven't gotten to all the hours of the show this week. I have if you've talked about it, forgive me.
But what was that experience like? What was her takeaway from being on site of Pebble and
watching that up close? I mean, just truly like an all-time week for me. She has been wanting to go to the Women's US Open for,
I mean, for her 10th birthday, I said,
I don't wanna give you a thing,
I want you to experience something.
So you pick anything that you wanna go to
and we'll go to it.
And our older sister picked a Taylor Swift concert
when that I'm in for.
And Keegan picked the Women's US Open.
And I was like, okay, we're gonna go to pine needles
and she was like, nope, we're going to pebble. That's what I want. And I mean, I you probably people who have heard me
have probably heard me talk about her a bunch and I probably talk about her too much, but she's you know, she means the world to me and our
relationship with golf means a ton to me. And so
sorry to get get emotional, but it was just awesome. It was awesome to get to be able to give her a chance
to meet Rosang and Lydia Coe comes up to us
the first day we're here and it's like,
hey, you want to walk with me?
And so she's walking with Lydia Coe
and Lydia's like, I love your freckles.
I wish I had freckles like you and for an 11 year old girl
to hear that from someone who's an icon in golf
and someone who she's known for years is just,
it's really cool.
And so she's awesome to hang out with this week.
She's a fun hang.
And I'm just, I'm really grateful.
Yeah, that I got to do this with her and you know, can't you see the great great. She's a great man. She's been nothing but additive and honestly,
I don't know how she does it because she's been walking out there more than we have. She's a
man. She was a dinner last night. Like, we're all exhausted. I'm like, I don't know how she's not
falling asleep in the pizza. She's already seven at the hay. Yeah, she did, but last night. Like we're all exhausted. I'm like, I don't know how she's not falling asleep in the pizza.
She's already seven at the hay.
Yeah, she did, but we got to play the hay.
She's, you know, she plays a ton at home.
She loves it.
She was like, I think we're going to play some word tomorrow.
And she, she's, she's, it's funny because she has watched the short game
a hundred times.
And she watched the Stanford documentary,
you know, and so Rose is like one of her heroes and stuff. And so for her to see Amari Avery,
who is very much emotional, like she is on the course, was kind of funny because she was like,
are I dead? I get it. Like, you're always telling me, like, can you just like enjoy the game and
chill and I'm stomping around and stuff. And so I was trying to get her to come on the live show
earlier because she was lit. She's literally been writing a story about her experience this week of coming to the tournament and stuff. And so she was like,
Dad, I got kind of stuck on it. And I was like, I'll help you. That happens a lot to writers.
You know, you get jammed up and stuff. And no, it's been, it's so awesome. I mean, the USGA
was incredibly cool to basically say, yeah, like we're, you know, we know you've been around
enough majors that you're not going to have a running out in the middle of
the green and stuff. Like she's going to be a bit more self-suffant.
She's on it because, kid. Yeah. She that's funny because earlier this week, he
was like, Dad, that's will like I recognize him from the P and C. That's that's
will so McGee or whatever. And I was like, Oh, wow. I do recognize people that I don't
even. So it's just been super cool. And I'm really grateful really grateful. It'll it's all time or a week for me.
So I'm so upset that you guys didn't let me get in the
the after the emotional family tie to Pebble Beach.
Didn't let me get my line of if you saw Macklemore out there.
That's so bad.
I'm just trying like eight times.
I'm busy like weeping here and another thing and you know, yeah.
So we all we all recognize that here how cool it was an experience for you to be with her and
see it through her eyes there.
And she's such a great little girl.
But ultimately like T.C. and I talked about this as well.
And I posted some yesterday on my Instagram story of like, how great you are with her.
And I think you are exactly what a lot of fathers that are out there who have young kids
who are super into sports, you're doing it the right way.
You're not forcing anything on it.
You're letting them explore and go about it their own way.
And the birdie that she had on the hay was so cool because she talked about it all
nine long.
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I'm so I got it in I got it in so proud. I'm so proud. So he does that. I got it in. I got it in. I'm so proud. I'm so proud.
I'll say this.
Keegan learned a lot of new words this week, too,
that she can take home to her friends.
Oh, here she is right here.
We can just have her pop on the live show to say.
Can you just say hi to everyone?
Hi.
Did you have fun this week, Keegan?
Did someone else know if you had fun this week?
Definitely.
Is anything that can stand out of the that you saw this week that was the coolest thing?
All of the people and, yeah, and the views.
Yeah.
What was it like to meet Rosang and like to get to hang with her?
It was really cool.
Anything else you can remember and take away?
Like, that was a memorable thing.
How about your birdie on the hay the other day? Oh, yeah. We played the hay and I'm birded at the 7th home.
So cool. Oh, she's giving it to mom. Dad let us have so late. He ate so much candy. She watched
all the bad TV in the world. Cody says I let you eat too much candy when watch bad.
Okay. All right. Thank you for popping on. KTVB. One other thing was you you offer Kegan very grown up well-reasoned explanations for things
of like like we're talking about you know a player we're talking about an agent or somebody
and it's like well all right Kegan like that person's actually like a really bad person.
and it's like, well, all right, Keegan, like that person's actually like a really bad person.
And I'm just like,
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
I don't like this person.
You'll love this.
We were walking on the 14th of today
and she says to me,
Dad, what is the trap draw?
Like, I know it's the podcast,
but like, what is a trap draw?
And I was like, well, you know,
it's a certain kind of shot that you hit.
We sort of close the face down and you try
and you're kind of a low
draw or one of the also like trap music is like a thing in the south.
And you know, there's this guy, GZ who, okay, okay, two four, let's get back to this.
So I tried my best, you know, just give her the best honest, honest, we'll,
on second, it will stop somewhere. All right.
just give her the best honest, we'll, on second, we'll stop somewhere.
All right.
KVV, cheers, man.
Thank you for not only writing up a storm this week, joining the live shows.
Thank you for getting a little personal there and sharing, you know, just how much this week meant to you, to your daughter.
That's, that's awesome stuff.
Next boys, we'll see you soon.
All right. That's that's awesome stuff. Next boys, we'll see you soon. All right, Kevin.
That's super cool.
I feel like he, uh, Keegan understands probably a lot more
what her father does for a living.
Yeah.
Which is a, yeah.
impactful, cool thing.
I know. I never got to go to any accounting conferences
with my old man.
I feel like I'm missing out there.
Uh, Salie, let's, let's have that conversation. I alluded to earlier, you have a note in our agenda about LPGA major champions.
Can you, can you go over that?
Yeah.
So this is the, they said this on the telecast.
It was those they were going off the air.
But this is the 20th, different major championship winner in the women's side in the last
21 majors.
That's wild. That's crazy. It is. A lot of real majors. I probably I adapted the site for that. Okay.
And I just curious if you think that's a bad thing or a good thing or maybe it's very obvious.
I think that's not a good thing for a sport. You know, that's trying to market stars and they
will say the same exact thing if it
was the case on the men's side.
You need people to like hoover up championships to like really move the needle or gain interest
or.
And I guess we've been in the like covering the women's game for five plus years now.
This is probably our six year doing it and like trying to come to terms with why it doesn't
seem to be gaining a lot of steam.
And I think you can point to something like that as definitely being a factor in that. I'm curious
you guys.
It would be a problem if it was the men's game, right? If if for sure, shame is power,
one a major and then just to me can I.
Why you pick it on the Irish because the Irish have been all of my DMs all week, but I
do want to say in those majors, there've been world class players who've won.
It's not just no names that are winning.
You just need a little bit of consistency
and a little bit of context.
And like everybody has less context
with the LPGA tour than they do with the PGA tour.
And it's also, like it makes sense,
it's a more global game, right?
Like it's KLPGA, Japan, let all that. So I think that makes sense. It's a more global game, right? Like it's KLPG, a Japan, you know, let all
that. So I think that makes sense as well. It's a little bit more trifer catered on Walls,
right? Yeah. I listen, Sali, I agree with you. You know, if you were to ask me what the best
thing for the LPGA tour to gain momentum, to gain eyeballs eyeballs to gain traction in mainstream America with sports
fans. Yeah, it's going to be a dominant player, right? It's going to be, for instance, in
Ellie Corta going out and winning, you know, something like three out of five majors or four
out of seven majors, something like that. I do think though, Tron, you alluded to it. I think having more context around some of these players would
certainly help bring, bring these winners to life and to make some of these
first time winners pop.
You know, I'm just thinking back, ruining in, right?
She just won a couple of weeks ago at KPMG.
I mean, 20 year old Chinese, she could be a superstar, right? She just won a couple of weeks ago at KPMG. I mean, 20-year-old Chinese,
she could be a superstar, right? But it's her first win. Lili Avu, super talented American
one at Chevron in April. Again, it's a bummer that she's been injured since then, but we
don't know over the next few years.
Solidarity, your point.
I think there's a lot of inconsistency there too.
The floor for some of these ladies is so, it's so much lower than you would think it would
be.
And this week's a good example of it, right?
Well, it just kind of feels like they're not no-name winners.
I'm not saying that, but it's we,
we preview these things. We talk about who's going to win. We make picks. And it just seems
like almost every winner every week is a surprise in some way, right? And they're, yeah.
Maybe that speaks to the depth and the talent of it, but it just is a, I don't know. It makes
it a little harder for these. I think that's the optimistic case. What I think
honestly is we're just not, you know, we're not fed the storytelling. We're not talking
about these women, you know, the top 20, 25, 30 women consistently on Sunday nights, right?
We're not seeing them in the prime broadcast windows on network television. Like I do think a large part of this
is a lack of coverage and storytelling that the women's game suffers from compared to the PGA tour.
It's funny too. There's on the flip side of this, we also complain that there's not enough depth
in the women's game. So you would think if you had all this parody that you'd have a connet depth.
in the women's game. So you would think if you had all this parody
that you'd have a ton of death.
And there's really not.
Yeah, I know.
It's weird.
It's like you have these 40 to 50 players,
and we've just been picking out ping pong balls,
and we just keep picking out different ones.
I think some of it's probably just plain old luck, right?
Random variants. We need some luck, right? Random variants.
Need some dogs though.
We do.
I also think venues matter, right?
Getting to proper tests and setting up golf courses
in a way that really identifies the best in the world.
Now granted, we know the best in the world this week.
A lot of them had flights home Friday night.
So some fluke winners at Pebble, the last. Yeah.
majors too. Yeah.
A fluke, but just, you know, off the wall under the radar. Yeah. So I think what we're all
saying is I think it's a lot of things. And end of day, I agree. It's maybe not ideal for right now for the LPGA tour,
but I also am hopeful that when we get to 2026, 2027
and start looking back on this year, for instance,
I'm hopeful like a ruining in an Illyavoo will be factors
over the next three, four, five years, but time will tell. Yeah. It just I felt
that way about, you know, patty, tavitanicate, when she won, I felt that way when you could
saw so one two years ago, when Nelly won the US women's open two years ago, I felt that
way for sure. Min G is the one name that has repeated on that list in the last 21 majors.
So yeah, it's, it just seems to come and go pretty quickly for a lot of these
players. And we just, we need somebody with a little bit of staying power. Like it, it
just, that's where like having Brooks, Capca in majors over the last five years, six years,
and men's professional golf has, has elevated things like it had. We have somebody achieving
like greatness and Hall of Fame level career right in front of us. And it's like, yeah,
Lydia, man, like two majors,
and you haven't won since 2016, like that just not real.
Just thanks. Yeah, she's the fake majors. It's something to you need. Like you want history,
you want favorites, and you want, and then the, I feel like the underdogs mean more when
they're taking down the favorites, when you have that consistency at the top for sure, you know, so anyways, Randy,
I got a question for you.
Yeah.
You want to announce to the people who you'll be supporting in the Soulheim Cup.
This year, TC, you and I are running it back from 2021 team Euro, baby.
The United States team is their fault.
I mean, it's not even going to be close.
Well, they pick up a good one and Allison Corpus.
She's certainly a lock now to go to Spain.
I think she was all but a lock before this week.
But yeah, you and I, we've been Euro die-hards
really since day one, TC.
And I think we're going to take that over to Spain.
We got, you know, Charlie Hall.
I think this is a good segue to We got, you know, Charlie Hall.
I think this is a good segue to talk about a little bit of Charlie Hall.
What did let me just say, what a fun, fun round of golf.
She had me on the edge of my seat.
I at one point went out to heat a bowl of leftover pasta.
You're going to say you get a bowl of something else.
And was running back to watch her play 14,
like it was captivating.
She was lashing at the ball.
Those swings were incredible.
She was rolling in puts.
She was just oozing confidence.
And when anybody gets into that state,
it's electric television.
You guys know I love Charlie.
I love her Instagram account.
I love her Instagram account. I love her, her, her cockiness, her, you know, we, they flashed her eagle up on the big board in the media center on
two. And I'm like, all right, we got to get out to three. We, Cody Andy Johnson, I walk out to three.
She, she drains a putt there. She proceeds to birdie four and then five she had just a really like big bounce
I think I think she she she had her hand a little bit
He checked cookie and then six four and a good four on five
They couldn't find the ball and this guy dressed up as like a red coat from the Revolutionary War.
Like it was like a red coat mixed with polter, like ran out and like helped him find the ball.
It was bizarre. And then she comes back, she birdies six exceptional second shot up there.
And then hit a really good shot into seven. Awesome up and down on eight. Like really
really good up and down. Yeah. Birdies 10, birdies 11. God, she had like just just lashing
her irons. That's lashing her putts too. She was banging them off the flag stick. Like
it was, it was a total ears pinback situation with like actual like without like reckless golf being played.
It was so good. I thought she was going to nail another birdie coming in. I really did.
Yeah, I mean, like the shot into 14, I wish we had that one back. Sure. The second or the third shot
into 14. And then I thought she like 15. Need that one. And then I thought he'd put on 15. Yeah,
that was a great put on 15. Really good second. Uh, 16 kind of an unlikely birdie there. Even her, her,
her iron into 17. That was such a tough shot. Yeah. Like nobody, nobody hit, pulled that shot
off. That was as good as you could have done today. Uh, and then 18 almost pulls it off and
hit a good bunker shot and, well, 17 her, I mean, I mean, just I loved her approach with her caddy.
She's like, I mean, I'm pumped up right now.
They're talking about club choices.
She says that I'm pumped up.
And then when she hits it, drives it under the tree on 18, pretty reckless play from 262.
Like you're not getting there.
Best case scenario.
You run it up to the front fairway and you chip in for Eagle.
Like I still support the play and appreciate it.
But she gets on the she has. you run it up to the front fairway and you chip in for Eagle. Like I still support the play and appreciate it. But we get some of this. If I may, if I may underscore like the
money on the line this week, million bucks, it is, it is really significant, especially
I think to the women that were in contention today. I mean, it's significant to anybody,
but very easily could have played it safe there.
And you know, felt good about collecting a million dollars.
But instead she had one thought on her mind.
She wanted to go win the tournament.
She wanted to go in the tournament and she's probably playing called duty tonight and messing
people up there.
She wanted them sweets, man.
That's what you wanted.
That's what you wanted.
My favorite Charlie Hall memory is still from the from the soulheim cup, European winning party
in Toledo. Yeah. There and she comes downstairs and she's wearing like a full-valor
like track suit pajama says. Yeah, and like all of her teammates dragging her out on the dance floor
and she's you know she'd be grudgingly broke it down and then headed back up to play my video. I think the misconception based on her Instagram
and, you know, maybe some of why we're building her up
is like, she's just the life of the party,
but I think she's actually pretty shy.
And I think she's a golf sicko.
And I think she's a golf sicko.
I know she's really good friends with Georgia Hall.
And yeah, I just, I don't know. She's always been somebody
we've kind of rooted for because she's such an interesting person, right? This, this
juxtaposition between her online persona and, you know, how she goes about her golf and
and so much going on when she's over the ball. Yeah. Oh, God, it makes me anxious. It really
does. It was, it was, it it was it's going to be one of my
favorite rounds of golf for the entire year. It was it was a true pleasure. We called it yesterday.
We said, Hey, this is going to be our bad girl group. Yeah. Overall, what do you think happened?
She came out of it. It's 66 proper did. I mean, if you were to told her this morning, you're
going to go out shoot 66. She said, Yeah, that'll probably put me there. Now we were wrong on angel shot 77.
We thought they were either going to raise each other up or bring each other down, which
might see them go that divergent, which might speak to how bad Charlie is, like bad in a
good way.
You know, you know, so alpha angel angel didn't put well, but.
And I will say Cody on that note, the 66 today, no woman had ever shot seven under
or better on Sunday in the U.S. Open. And she had a put on 18 to do that.
Didn't make it, but man, hell of a round. Like that drive she had on 16. Like she took last club
and still she just smoked it. She was put in extra. She's like at one time. She's like, oh, I think I'm a bit pumped. But I, anyways, back to the, the caddy, she's underneath the tree.
And she's got the three wood out, but it was even in that moment, she's just like pretty,
like, ask the caddy bluntly, like, do you like this play? Like, like, talk me out of this.
Like, I'm willing to be talked out of this, but I, like, I want to hit this. And he begrudge
me. I don't think he actually liked it. But he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead, go ahead.
But it was just, it was awesome. It was very, I still wish it was, they could have done more with
18 to make that, that element there of somebody making a charge, baby, with the potential to get
there and two. I don't know why you don't. I mean, I really don't know why it becomes a double lab contest. That was the, that was the biggest miss on setup in my opinion was,
was not having 18 be an eagle opportunity. Even if you want to do that, you can bump 14 back.
Right. Like today and, and bump seven or bump 18 up a little bit and make, make two a lot more,
you know, make up for it other places, but not
not having not being able to see those three woods and hybrids attempting to be hit in
18 was a bit of a shame.
Keen to see if Charlie because Charlie didn't come into this playing great golf.
She'd missed a few cuts in a row.
Keen to see if she can kind of use this momentum.
I hope it's a springboard. She mentioned in her post-round interview,
she's really kind of refocused
and has been working on her game.
And this week, things really clicked and she felt good.
So yeah, hoping this is a sign of big things to come,
maybe a strong home game at the women's British open.
G.I.
Shin.
I don't think we have to spend much time there.
Speed it up.
Great.
We have to worry about her.
Is what great.
Great.
Great.
Really.
I think it's incredible.
This which it's we're like, we're all relatively new to following women's golf.
Did not know before this week that she was a former number one and a two time major champion.
It's just kind of a weird end up.
And I too. When like I don't know if it was Cody or like rolling through all or nose. You
know worldwide wins all through all over world.
Wins and JLPGA and KLPGA and all that. It's crazy. Nasa, I was expecting a lot more from her today.
Peak too early. Yeah. Um,
Rob the launch.
Hugh Joochim, do we have to revoke her license to kill?
Pretty disappointed in that.
I, you know, just because you've killed before doesn't mean that you're a killer.
I think, I think we're going to bring her in from the field.
She's going to be on desk duty for a while.
Yeah.
We're, we're removing her sidearm.
I think we got to talk about
Bailey tardy. Yeah, I thought I think we all thought the tardy party was going to run
out of steam a little bit more. I could have sworn they're running low on food, you know,
beer. Go ahead. I come back here. Who when was the license to kill given to he owed you
Kim? Like that one major when we were in Korea. Yeah,'s just one major and it's a the fit one of the fake majors.
And I know a couple of very close calls between the swing and just
she looks the part.
Okay, but I
I'm
I'm
I'm
that's on you guys. You think
No, that's on us for sure.
Listen, it might be the first time we've ever missed on something like that.
Yeah.
I think
I think
I have a T's already T4.
That's a big, big, big result.
Oh, for her, I mean, life changing.
Where like, like, you know, even, even not fading away from T4 to 12th or something,
like that's, that's, that's a massive win for her.
And in Chats 75 on Saturday and then 73 today and didn't didn't back down. I think she you know she played got off to kind of a
mediocre star. She was two over three today and then came in and played, you know, one under her last what 15 holes. Yeah.
Yeah. So all right. I checked was $30,000 prior to this week.
And she made like $470 grand this week.
Biggest paycheck her career was a win on the Epson tour
for $30,000.
That's what I mean.
Yeah.
And she gets to come back, you know, automatically qualifies
next year.
I think just her check this week would have been inside the top 60
on the LPGA official
money list last season.
It's crazy.
This is a rookie year.
We talked about earlier this week.
She went through a lot of near misses on the Epson tour where she just missed her card.
One year by $343.
She's immensely talented.
That was the theme of the week.
I think anybody that knows her and has seen her play
a lot of golf, she's a flusher's flusher.
And it was always a question of,
is she going to put in the work
and does she have the dedication to maximize her game?
And hopefully, things are pointing in that direction.
And like we say with Charlie, you know,
ideally this week is a springboard for Ayaka for a I'm not going on a leaderboard yet.
I'm just we're getting through the T6 people. I just wanted to say our name Ayaka for
food away. Well, good weekend.
So, Ali, let me ask you this, you watched a lot more of the broadcast than we did.
How? Let's talk quickly about NBC and what you liked and what you didn't like watching
from home.
I liked, they made it feel like a major.
It felt different.
It was, I said it's on Thursday, but it was, it was a far cry from the Chevron oil
spill of the, the, the, the alleged first major of the year. That there was different gravitas
to it. They did all that. I thought it was it was that part was really good. The lack
of commercials just changes everything. Really, I struggled to I had to take the trash out.
And I'm like, running to take the trash out to get back because they just wouldn't take
a fucking break. Like it was that part was great. Yeah. Oh, the drone images were fantastic.
It, they did pebble justice for the most part.
My critique was they needed some more cams out there and be
able to like the ability to follow more rounds.
There's no soft cams.
So the hardest softest of cams.
So the tower shots did nothing.
I tweeted this, but there's an image of
of Allison lining up a three and a half foot put
to make a par on the 11th hole
and they started with the tower cam
and then switched down back to the ground cam
to show that her pup was outside the hole
from three and a half feet.
Like that is the challenge of Pebble Beach.
Again, that's like not why a ton of people tune in,
but that's what it is.
And they they they lacked that touch on the ground.
They didn't have very many announcers this week.
I know they had some extenuating circumstances and whatnot, but just felt like they didn't
have the on the ground reporters to go follow groups and dad, the cameras to go follow
them, which is just was that part was tough.
But overall, I thought they did this.
They did Pebble Beach justice.
It gets a positive thumbs up for me.
I wouldn't give it two thumbs up, but it's, it's, it's, it's kind of a, it's a drill
tweet. It's a, it's a, you do, you do quote, have to give it to him a little bit on this
for, for not completely fucking it out, but that's the, the level standard they've set
in far better than the, the last major two, the KPMG.
Oh, yeah, it wasn't even close.
This is the week that truly, I tune in.
I'm like, oh, this is one of the biggest events
of the year for the women, like no doubt.
Everything about the broadcast was signaling that.
Grant Morgan, no Morgan.
She came in late.
Yeah, just unfortunate.
Karen Stupples are best wishes to her. I think
she's got some real sickness in the family. She had to attend to so that it was a bit of
extenuating circumstances with some personnel.
Um, yeah, Sali, I think listen, don't forget about Woody, continue to crush it.
Oh, yeah. Fantastic. The best investment NBC sports ever did for golf.
Yes, yes.
And I guess my point is, and I hinted at it last night,
was NBC's broadcasting every women's major,
and not every women's major looks like this.
So that leads me to really conclude.
It's not really NBC that's upping their game this week.
It's the USGA and their partners Rolex.
I'll shout them out Rolex, Cisco, American Express, who have made it a point Lexus Lexus.
Yeah, Lexus. They've made it a point to have this tournament look and feel to look and feel the way that it does.
And good on them.
I think the USGA has done a really good job continuing
to build up this event.
And I would look at the other national golf association,
the PGA of America.
And I would say, hey, I think it's kind of on you
to try to step your game
up to what the USGA is doing. And the KPMG is good. And it's a great experience for the
women. And there's a lot of really good things about it. But when you tune in as a viewer,
it does not come anywhere close to feeling like this weekend felt.
It felt like a lot of it's like you, you know America, right? If it's USGA, we think elevated this, and like, hey,
PJ have America, it's time to step up and start treating
that event like it's your biggest women's event, which
it now helps.
Now how much of this helps that Fox basically paid a bunch
of money to get out of the contract and then NBC's?
Well, it doesn't help the men's side.
So I don't, I refuse to acknowledge
that. So, and I will say, you know, I'd say the same thing about the RNA, they've been
the latest to the party. You know, they've, yeah, where have you guys been? But they're,
but also like the, the women's British open, like, wasn't, wasn't a major. That's how
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Code man. Yeah, I just think that we talk about it all the time that L.P.J. events
you get to feel like very routine, right? And even like Chevron felt that same routine.
KPMG felt it's a little bit differently, but like barely.
I would say like with a like lower case B-poss.
And the venue helps.
Right. And sometimes like routine is very good.
And sometimes it's like, it suffers.
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women's open specifically. We got Chef T.C. is going to do a limited
seating at leaderboard service tonight. We're full. We've gotten, we've got, we've got
three nights in a row. We've gotten so much.
We're in the middle of tonight. We're in the middle of tonight.
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Venue's matter, I'm beating a drum, but so glad that Pebble Beach, you know, it took, it took
long enough, but we finally got here, just like Mirfield last year for the women's open. It has to host
and it has to host the biggest women's event
and that's the US open. And on the screen now are our future sites.
And I'm excited, like this plays a part
in why people tune in and get excited about this stuff.
We've got a great mix upcoming of,
we got Lancaster next year, which is,
they're gonna show out.
That's in the middle market game. There's middle market kind of outside Philly, great.
Like places that because Pebble doesn't necessarily have the intimacy to tough course to get around.
Yeah.
You know, everybody's hanging out on 678 out there and it's tough to get back in.
I think Lancaster will be the opposite of that.
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LACC, and then Chicago Golf Club. That's, I mean, good mix. Again, but I think an important
note of this, it's going to be, I still think it's going to be a slow transition, right?
I don't think this like changed the game this week, right? I don't think it, it flipped
the needle for women's golf, but I think the seeds that are finally being planted
after just harvesting these forests on repeat
are gonna shine through in probably 15 to 20 years, right?
It's a long-term investment.
It, just if you scroll back through the venues
that while we were growing up of women's golf,
the US Open venues were, I mean, Pine needles has hosted a ton of these things, through like the venues that while we were growing up of watching of women's golf, the
US Open venues were, I mean, pine needles has hosted a ton of these things, which is
fine.
Pine needles is a good golf course.
Doesn't, it doesn't move.
And it's not, it's not to the level of like, well, what's about to come?
Go ahead and use that, Pawn.
I see you working.
Let him move the needle.
It's a great pine needles.
Doesn't move the needle.
We'll go with that.
It's important.
I will say it's an important place for the women's game,
which kind of sets it apart. It does, but it's not going to change interest level
in in women's golf Indian wood golf and country club in 94 Broadmore.
Pumpkin Ridge is a live live golf course now. Like we're talking,
read that list again and then compare that to pumpkin Ridge.
Old Waverly Black Wolf run merit club pine needles again. and read that list again and then compare that to pumpkin Ridge, old, wavily black wolf
run merit club pine needles again. Prairie dunes is awesome. But again, like that, that's
kind of a, a, an outlier in there back to pumpkin ridds, the orchards golf club. I've never
heard of that place. Cherry Hills also totally fine golf course, new port, new port country
club pine needles again. Then we're back at
Interlock and Socken Valley, Broadmore back again. I mean, Oakmont's been mixed in there
from time to time. Blackpool will run again. It just has not been what's coming up. And
it, it, it's again, it's going to take a while for this whole thing to flip over, I think,
but I think it's something like that leads to, what we see right now on the men's side
is a product of huge, huge, huge corporate investment
in the game starting around the year 2000
with the Tiger Woods era that has led to a whole new,
like the support of more men's professional careers
and a such a competitive product
that the level play has gotten out of control good.
And that's probably, the women's game is probably 20 to 30 years behind that. And we're probably at the beginning
of that, I would say. It's a series of 10 year, but it's like Stalin. This series of 10
year plans hopefully it turns out better than that. I'll say the other thing T.C. we're going
to leave that right there. I'll say the other thing. if, if, if, solid, you said the corporate sponsorship,
the big takeaway was from a viewing perspective,
from trying to add and,
you know, you get people tuned in,
you get golf fans tuned in,
having comprehensive stats is an important part of that.
And I was gonna say, I think, from a viewer perspective,
honestly, from the game's perspective,
I think one of the most important investments
any company could make on the women's side
is trying to get, and I know KPMG,
I go back to KPMG, but it's not the same
having caddies right at my hand,
getting the shot links out there as much as possible.
We need the volunteers.
Yeah.
That was wonderful this week.
What else before we, before we see anybody?
I would say, I think the one thing I worry about is like, like an Aaron Hills, right?
Is there that too big of a ballpark and it's not going to feel like there's that many
fans there for us.
I think it's on Mr. Pada to whip up the people.
We had a bunch of people come up to us this week
and they're like, hey, I drove in from four hours away
or I flew in for this or my, you know,
like I brought my daughter down.
It was really cool to see like people, like the Bay Area,
a lot of people came down from San Francisco,
a lot of people came in from Central Valley.
And honestly, Rose helped that. Like I would be remiss not to.
Condi came out for. I mean, Rose, Rose had the biggest crowds all week.
High far. And being that close to Stanford San Francisco, that helped.
Absolutely. I'll call that.
Lastly, on that, like the hope to come out of the parody like with the superstar is is rose, right?
Like it is.
That's the hope.
She's already guarded a level of attention that a lot like I'm sorry to say this like
Allison corpus is just not going to do that.
It's just not the same, not the same hype train.
It's just not.
No.
Unless she like makes us pay like if she did something totally mental and went in one, you know, but yeah.
Can I cook for a sec?
Yeah, so TC, welcome to chef TC restaurant down the leaderboard.
What are we see what's our seating situation tonight?
I'm just doing a passport, Derek.
We're having to sit down.
Okay, I'm just going to make it here.
All right.
I want to shout out Maya Stark for another solid 72 today.
Top 10 in a major.
That's always good.
And she was rock solid coming down the stretch. She got that wiki yellow. to shout out my a stark for another solid 72 today. Top 10 in a major. That's always good.
And she was rock solid coming down the stretch. She got that wiki yellow birdies on 14 and 16.
And it wasn't a backdoor, you know, just an earned, that's an earned yellow. All right. Exactly.
Same, same thing Rose did this weekend, 72 72. Yeah. See game top 10 and major for Rose is,
there's a good week. I mean, it's not in contention, but that was a good week.
The Australian women kind of, you know,
Hannah Green, Grace Kim both, both closed through the line,
closed strong.
Gosh, what else we got?
You cassaso kind of recovered from a poor middle stretch,
75, 75 Friday, Saturday, 71 today. We talked about, we talked about,
so patty T had higher hopes for patty T after a really good start this week.
Again, I'm going to say any expectations you have for patty T, I think it's your own
fault. I think it's truly zero expectations right now.
Leona, I expect the apologies from the Irish to keep flowing in. I've gotten
a couple of those far. Yeah. We will keep keep trying to get those in.
Very disappointing. No other way to say it. Yeah.
Massive, massive shout out to Jenny Coleman. Yes. 87, 68. It's not really 19 strokes.
I'm sure she was.
I can't imagine how embarrassed she was yesterday, right?
Having to put that out there, people talking about it on Twitter to come back out and
shoot 68 today.
Trace me a lot.
Good on her.
You know what that showed me, Randy, that I think you ran out of holes.
I really do.
If you had another 18, if you had another go,
who knows what you could have done after that 105?
I mean, seriously, thank you.
That makes me view that whole round differently.
Yes.
Good.
I think I'd good overall week from from Marri Avery.
T-48, she finished the line.
She's at 73 today after kind of a rough second, third round.
I want to see Amari tighten it up. I want
to see her. Yeah, she's got a harness. Yeah, she's got a harness. Her talents. She's got
to learn to pitch. Yeah, don't be a thriller.
He's a little bit. Yeah, all that. I want to apologize on behalf of Lynn Grant and Sweden.
Now what we're looking for made the cut. Maybe she was beat up about people calling Ludwig Muleberg.
We'll get to that.
And then lastly, I want to shout out Monet Sean, who in another amateur made the cut, she
got vaporized by you.
Saki Baba, a Chambers Bay in the US and she sure did.
And makes the cut this week finishes T 59 one shot ahead of Nelly
Corta. I think that's a nice accomplishment and TC under heralded when you say vaporized. I
believe we're speaking 11 and nine right in that final match. Really truly with vaporization.
Can I go one name down the lead? We're here just a weird one to call out here after
a T64 finish after listening to I think it was Thursday night's show on Nelly felt like
you guys were a little close in the door on our a little too early, right? And I think we
shot 80 today. It's, it's not good week and not a good summer run. But obviously like
back to what we were, we were talking about a lot at some point that shows like this tight window
of two majors back to back was a good chance for somebody to get in, get grab, ball can
get two of them.
Like if you get a hot stretch right here, it's really good timing.
But also when you're coming off injury, changing coaches and you have these two majors back
to back and a key stretch of the year and you don't like have your stuff, the door is not
closing on Nelly.
I'll just put that out there.
I think this is a bad close in the door is not closing on Nelly. I'll just put that out there. I think this is a bad
close in the door. I just wanted to actually this is more directed at KVV more than anything.
Some of the questions were being asked. I felt like, hey, there's some time here. There's still some
time. She's a fantastic player. It's obviously not there right now, but I just wanted to draw attention to that.
I'll say the one I wanted to mention is Janet Lynn, G. O'Lynn. She was very involved at KPMG a couple of weeks ago.
And she finished tied for 13th this week. You know, she's been playing excellent golf and this is a very good
week for her, you know, nothing more than that, but she keeps playing excellent golf. And this is a very good week for, you know, nothing more than that,
but she keeps playing good golf.
Yes, last thing before we move on, thank you to Rowback,
woof woof doghouse this week.
Truly.
That's right.
Serially.
Yeah, this was, I've been looking forward to this week and being able to do
something like this and their help able to do something like this. And their
help, their support means the world. So very, very, very appreciative.
Look for Jordan and KVV's written stuff. You can catch up on all that. Jordan, great
piece on Alston Corpus at one of this morning prior to the round.
You guys have Michelle, we on a good situation from Friday here on the day. I was going to transition this that.
Did you guys talk about it Friday?
We did.
We did.
We revisited.
Yeah.
First of all, I just want to give condolences.
Sal and Eric, but Kat guy on a call.
Yeah.
Kat this week, which, you know, people, like people are asking if it was a false flag, if
it was actually this week,
I'm gonna say not even she could be that craving.
I'm not really versed in false flags.
That's it.
Let's sit that one out.
We can talk about what happened.
I think Mike can let us know on Twitter
what's going on there, but.
It was bad.
Having Onika there, and Onika's whole deal
in third, third farewell, not good to the US open. I kind of shame on the USJ for pairing
them together when you're never good to Michelle at all. Yeah. Yeah. Like to the point where,
you know, it's like, hey, like, what are we doing here? This is Michelle's moment. I can't think Michelle was thrilled to be paired with her, you
know? It, it, what's the history between the two? I don't think I really fully know. I
just don't think I think I've presented her, you know, here comes this child prodigy. I
think she was just always icy to Michelle. I'm not sure if there's much like on the record,
but just from talking to folks, I don't think it was ever warm at all.
And then, yeah, and then, you know, the way it ended with the rules thing, whether or not it was a good drop or not, just the whole, the whole setting was just, it's like just have some class.
Yeah. Well, let's take everybody back to that second round, toll and tell me because not everybody caught that that live show.
Well, so it's eight o'clock Pacific time, right?
11 o'clock Eastern.
It's Friday night.
It's darker than our cameras.
It appears.
Yeah, you know, there aren't unfortunately there aren't that many people left on 18 green.
Onika and Michelle, I don't think had like made a birdie that day between them.
Which shout out to Angie Chun.
Angie Chun's playing with him and like was in the tournament.
And yeah, it's Michelle's send off.
It's she had definitively declared many, many months ago.
This is going to be my last event.
Pebble is it for me.
And I think everybody just wanted a nice moment with Michelle,
right?
It was supposed to be a celebration.
And judging by like Dan Hicks and talking to people,
like maybe this was on because last US Open,
I don't think anybody really knows.
I don't think anybody would be surprised
if she like played again.
She could win a US Senior Women's Open.
Yeah.
But I'll fly back in, right?
And she's just kind of there and taking away from what should be like a great
joyful walk for Michelle. And so on a cut comes 18 hooks one left off the tee.
Pull hooks one. That's important. Right. Pull hook. The camera shows that the ball probably doesn't
cross the hazard, right?
And she should probably be dropping if she's going to drop.
But Randy, it was an elevated camera.
How could we ever know?
So that's the whole thing.
Onica wants to go up once the claim across.
And none of this matters.
Onica's son Will, I guess, was heard like, mom, why don't you just drop another one in
play?
Like, you're not making the cut.
Like, what are we doing?
Well, Anika goes up, she gets into this, I won't call it an argument.
It was more before we leave the T though.
She's already talking about like, provisional.
Like, and then there's a, they're talking with the rules official from the T. So their
story in, in hindsight is that everyone agree that it crossed up, up there.
But if you go back and watch
it, like from the tea, they're all talking about like, I don't, I don't really know if
it did. Like, can I play a provisional? You know, you can't play, like, that's what was
happening on the tea. There was not a uniform, her husband's on Twitter saying it's a, you
know, he seems really secure. Yeah, I was cutting dry. We all super honest her whole career
is clean. Yeah. Cool, Mike. It's so, it was tough scene. And I, we all cutting dry. We all super honest her whole career is clean. Yeah, cool, Mike.
It's tough scene.
And we all saw this.
Like I assumed it was onica.
Maybe it was antifa.
I don't know what happened exactly left of 18 of 18 hole here.
I don't know what it was.
Yeah.
And well, anyway, it gets to the point where the rules officials finally up in the fairway
on 18, just like onica.
You know, like it's your call in the end, right? Like you just have to make the call.
So please let's get this over with. Yeah. Which which and it doesn't even matter.
Like I'm not even mad about her. Like I think everybody was just like on a cut.
Let's go. Like this is Michelle's final whole. Like in G Chun is in this current.
Like let's let's go. Just a window into who she is.
Yeah. I think it was just really indicative of who Anika is.
You have to respect the accomplishments
that she's had on the golf course,
but I think this is just kind of a window
into her whole deal and it's not good.
And it's a shame, but it was a start contrast with Michelle. And Michelle has
been nothing but graceful. Michelle has to her credit, you know, through a disappointing
career is happy. She's got a daughter. She's got a husband like she's ready to move on
with her life. She wants to stay involved in the game and help the younger generation. And ultimately, like, that's what we should all take from, from Friday and from this weekend.
But yeah, it just was, it wasn't the way anybody would have wanted that to happen. So it's
just a shame. Again, it just goes back to like your, your, your already seven off the cutline.
And if there's any doubt about whether a ball crossed
just to you, another one, just like, yeah, you know, the other one. It's a horrible,
horrible example to make for any kids are watching at home and for just like how to play the game.
And I know I get a little preachy when it comes to rules stuff, but like, man, it's just,
this stuff is on television, like we have it on footage. We had a person there with eyes on it as well that would testify like, you know, that
ball was like not crossing. And it's like, what are we doing here? It's so unnecessary,
such an unnecessary battle to pick. And it was a tough scene on Friday night. Hate
it all of it.
I will say I'll plug TV piece on Michelle and, you know, where, where she has come in her life.
And I think it's just a really lovely read
and it's timeless.
People can find it on their own time,
but I'd encourage people to check out
what KVV wrote about Michelle
from Friday, published Saturday.
Bought a blind.
Great week. Awesome week.
Um, Sully, we're going to turn the tables here because we didn't really watch any PGA
score action.
So why don't, why don't I toss the ball hosting to you and try and I will kind of just
react here.
I didn't watch a whole lot either, um, other than having, I, Lee Harvey Oswald and Adam
Shank in my plays this week.
I thought we had a chance for some, for some nuggies to hit this today, but that did not
happen.
As Seb Straco went out at the John Deere shot 28 on the front and came out and birdie
like 85 more holes on the back nine.
He was 11 under par through 14.
It is a par 70 one, excuse me, par 71.
So he is par in to shoot 60 from there.
He, the 17th was a quite reachable par five
that a lot of people were birding.
So if you're that hot, we're counting that one to say like,
all right, dude, one more birdie, either 15, 16 or 18,
assuming you get 17 and you're gonna shoot
the second 58 in PGA Tour history,
the first ever 13 under 78 or 58 and PGA tour history and
He did not birdie 15 did not birdie 16 did not birdie 17
Now he's like he was like up by a mile
Up by five shots or so, but like hey, you can make a run at the John D
You're like you don't you don't know how much is enough. Hits the fairway on 18 steps up and has claimed
he was not thinking about 59 or anything.
And I refuse to believe it because he pull hooked
and ironed into the pond on 18,
took an honest drop, like a really honest drop,
like farther back that I thought he needed to take.
Chipped on, missed the putt and made double to shoot 62.
And it looked like he lost the tournament because
Brennan Todd was in shouting distance. Alex Smiley was in shouting distance, but they just could not
manufacture anything coming down the stretch. Brennan Todd, three putt of the 16th hole, which was
like his first, I saw the graphic his first three putt and 161 hole, 131 holes, something like that.
Yeah, he's like one of the, he's like maybe the best putter in the world. And that was a very uncharacteristic three-pup. That dropped him from 20 under to 19. Didn't
birdie 17. Didn't birdie 18. And then Smalley also could not make a threat down the stretch.
So Stracco doubles 18 to go on and win by two shots. spots. Stepstrakko was three over par standing on his 17th hole at the John deer on Thursday.
He birdied that one, but shot 73 in the opening round, shoot 63 in round two, 65 in round
three in double 18 to shoot 62 at the deer. So that was the, I learned the phrase, we've been saying Mule Run.
I believe it's Mule Pull is actually the proper phrase.
It's somebody DM, I hope I got that right.
That's not right, is it right?
Somebody's gonna correct me on that.
But, question for TC, I believe Substrak is Austrian.
He is, he's Austrian. Val Dostin.
Are we? Where is he on like your writer cup radar? I mean, he's getting in the mix. I think
he does. You have to go over, unless he's a captain's pick, he needs to go over and play.
He's a, he's the same affiliate member that Ludwig is apparently. Right So so to qualify automatically, you would have to be
go and play a certain number of Euro Tour events, whereas I think for a captain's pick, he's
eligible for a captain's pick, but not for the, is that right?
I don't know, but he, I mean, what would he get teller? Yeah, I didn't mean to put you
in a bad spot. I was more just theoretically. Podrig had wrong information.
Like, like, like, what Viggs eligible?
He's an affiliate member of the DP World Tour.
But I don't, I feel like eligibility is treated differently
for automatic qualification versus eligibility
for captain's pick.
Who could say, but something to look into, sorry.
If honestly big, if I'm looking at like
the numbers and everything going on, I don't, I feel like Sep Strocco is like a case study of
how people's eyes gravitate towards, oh, if you've won something that must mean you're going to
be on the team when it's like, yo, whoa, whoa, whoa. Sep Strocco is up and down. Like I, he might be
the perfect pick for the rider cop. Like he might
have a crazy hot week. Listen, if you if you're 11 under through 14, you don't have to worry about
doubling the 18th hole because you've already won your match. Like we're not worried about that. But
I would argue he's like the worst pick because his floor is so low. And if he shows up and like
I doesn't have it, he's just no way to know. There's no way to know until like week of and again, it comes back to like, how do you, how do you construct
it's a team? The obvious answer is, who do you think? Who are you betting on playing the
best during the week of the tournament? Right? I'm like, you're, like, heroes got a bet
on high variance. So like, that's their only shot. Well, the Rasmus and Ludwig both won
today or both, you know, lugging in. Oh,
you're so rasmus one,
lug the, you know,
disappointing week.
He finishes T4 at the John
dear, which the John dear.
I want to shout out the John
dear.
It's major crowds were awesome
out there this week.
It's,
it's like,
it's good.
It's cool.
I like the big digs awesome.
I saw all the little
blare's out there.
Yeah, it's cool event.
But again, like even even Rasmus is like a case study, like you point at it, he's been like way
below average, like professional golfer over the last three months and below average over the last
six months, right? And like he wins today and all of a sudden it's like, well, now he's on the team.
It's like, man, it just takes I can subscribe to like the variance, like the young gun, like, all right, let's go Ludwig and the Huy guard twins to fill
up the team and kind of hope to what we got. Yeah, I hope for some fireworks. I can subscribe
to that. But one hot week does not cover up like inconsistent play. And I, it, it, uh,
it's a, it's a very common thing on both sides of the American side and the European side of like pointing towards wins.
Rainy does it habitually.
He said habitual line.
Me and my, my, my guy, sweet baby James Corrigan.
We're both all about those wins, baby.
Yeah.
Like Taylor Gooch winning live events all of a sudden, you know, covers up his inconsistent
major performance and, you know, the live events that he disappears at.
Like, it just is stroke's game. It doesn't lie.
Like it just tells you who has played the best golf over long stretches of time.
But that also doesn't mean you're going to play great golf in the rider cup, right?
So there is an element of like trying to find the hot hand, find the hot pick, find the
right guy that's great for the format and somebody wants to play with and the partnership
fits great and all these stats guys look at all this stuff
and it's it's more than way more than just strokes game that they look at but I mean, I know Jamie we're is going to have them on the team because he's got 38 guys on the team, but
I don't know. If I'm the European, I'm like, if I'm a European fan, I'm asking for a little bit more consistency of somebody that's going to be on the team. Fair. That's fair. Uh, I thought Cam Young was going to have a bigger week.
He got off to a great start.
Uh, T6 for him.
JT Poston, good, a good defense.
One guy that I think should have be a long look.
He should have a spot on the US rider cup team ahead of, say, JT, unless JT starts playing
well, Danny McCarthy.
I'm ready to have that conversation, TC. It's been sustained, really solid period of golf.
And he was a favorite in this tournament. I had a play on him and didn't don't regret
having to play on him at all. Like he's been played really freaking good golf.
For the last three months, he is like almost plus two strokes gained. Like that's,
that's like, can't lay Xander level of golf. Like that's the standard that they set, like year
round, which is pretty incredible. But it's been that good.
Can I go back some real quick? What you said some earlier today about Cam Young? Where
are we on Cam Young? Uh, so the he we said he needed to get unplugged and plugged back in.
He is plugged back in, but like the system's still like rebooted, you know, like when you reboot
the system.
Do we need to do we need to restore factory settings?
I'm just I'm concerned.
So there were some golf ball changes.
I hope I have this right.
He has very recently put the left dash back in play, I believe.
And I don't know when he changed or I have to research
that, but I did read that that he has changed back to a golf ball that I think he had success
with. Again, I could have that very wrong, but that may be something worth worth noting
and following. So I'd like to also shout out Chairman Chairman Mao. Yes.
Still Mao. You've got a Stalin reference and a chairman, Mal reference now for the record. Thor Bjornson shot 63.
The two rats. We got to talk Ludwig. Like we have it.
You can't just skip past your boy. What's that?
He played like shit on Saturday.
People were calling him Mulevig Aydon.
Which is, which is wonderful for the record.
It's like the guy is, he's a stud.
Like we haven't even seen, he put it his ass off today.
Didn't put well the rest of the week.
He's not hitting his iron's great over the last month or so.
Like we're not seeing his A game.
And he's making waves out there.
Like just be patient.
I had so many people come up to me today asking
can Ludwig put four days together.
I think he can. I think part of it is he needs to be on harder courses. He's competing on
courses that aren't necessarily like he he doesn't hit the ball to 12 feet. He's the ball like
15 to 20 feet a lot with his wedges like he needs to tighten that up. But overall, like he's played what, like four events.
He's played four events now.
He's 140th in the FedEx Cup.
I'd like to correct the record.
It was left.ball that Cameron Young is playing.
I don't know, Josh Ball.
But TC, I really liked what I saw.
I love it today.
I mean, it's big of you.
The driver is a serious, serious weapon.
I mean, I think he's gonna challenge Scotty
for being the best driver in the world. And I'll say to young, young hitter, Madeline Sackstrom,
her fiance, Jack Clark on the bad on the bag for Ludwig. So, you know, we, we like that
profitable. That's going to be a profitable place to be. I have a feel. Yeah. Plotted well this week. He was playing offense. I saw some controlled wedges out of them
today.
Who I know you've already hoovered up all the stock, but if they issue more shares than
any point, I'll take some off your hands.
I'll cut you in. It's a dividend stock too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Also, no crypto buys of.
No,
yeah,
you can't be buttoned down. No coinage for that.
There's Bitcoin and there's crypto. Well, we've been over this. Okay. It's two different things.
I wonder how those usga NFTs were going this week.
That's a great question. Are there usga NFTs?
There were. Seriously. Yeah.
For like what like what are they?
I heard they were worth $20 billion according to film. They were, they were,
they were gamified. One house at Pebble Beach.
They're worth one house. They gamified them.
Anything else in the deer?
What else do I have here?
So there were so much so many deer running around Pebble Beach inside the
gates. I was so worried we were going to hit one this week.
Mule Mule deer.
We saw bucks. We saw does. We saw it was crazy. I didn't get to hear about hanging out
at Nancy's house. How was that? That was for the personal call. Yeah. Jim made a point.
Guys, leave the camera in the car. We're just hanging out as friends. I'll say he's got
a nice set up.
A couple of cases. No, Holland ones were had. It was a great time.
No, all in ones were had.
We didn't get on the, the whole.
No, and Uncle Jim, you know how it is, Sally, he remembers our times very well.
He's a great guy, very, very hospitable of us.
He's, he's very impressive, love big too.
Yeah.
Big love big fan.
We all wanted to get on the, the, he's got a rock displaying anybody who's ever made
a whole and one on his replica seventh
hole at Pebble.
Got him.
I was joined it.
Guys, I hit like 70 balls trying to make an eight back in February.
Like, I think he was borderline.
Like, okay, man, like it's it's I'm T.C. was right.
Well, we all had scares.
We all had scares put it down the chimney.
Yeah.
Fluid fluid directly in the hole.
But he's he's working that bad sandable.
Very ball. He's back there. It's worlds. Yeah, it is very bullish on low
jaguars. Nice. I'll make some jacks and little trips this year. They're not a part of
their their A.C. pack. Yeah, he will. Yeah. He will.
I will not be going to chance. On another PGA tour front, it was announced this afternoon.
Randall Stevenson will be stepping down from the PGA tour board. The former AT&T executive resigned his position on the PGA
tour's influential policy board in a letter dated Saturday writing he had serious concerns
about the tour's controversial partnership with the Saudi Arabian public investment fund.
This is from the Washington Post. In his resignation letter, he said the framework of the deal
is not one that not could objectively evaluate or in good conscious support, particularly in light
of the US intelligence report concerning Jamal Kashoggi back in 2018.
He also had some things to say about the governance of the way it came together.
Challenge of the Washington Post for some good scoop on that. I think this feels like a big deal
to me. It really does. I think there was not all like iron. I think they just kind of the four
the four other independent directors on the board basically get to pick the next, you
know, board member with the consultation of the player directors as well. This kind of
feels like a little bit of a mutiny in James. I mean, this guy is exactly what I was going to say.
And one of the largest companies in the world,
he's also destroyed probably more shareholder value
than any individual ever.
Like, I mean, literally like the time owner,
deal, and then it's crazy.
I know.
But it definitely feels like something that's,
it's like, J needs to probably, and then Jay's coming back this week.
But so, you say it feels like a mutiny.
To me, it feels like an opportunity for the tour and the loyalist
there to consolidate more power, right?
It's not a no vote.
It's, all right, he's getting replaced by somebody's...
Almost worse than a no vote though, right?
Because it's basically like, it's like a protest.
It's like, hey, like, I, like, that's a message to guys on the tour. I, in my opinion, here's how I
see it is. It is, it is going to go through. Like, it's going to get voted. Yes. And rather
than be a no vote and be, you know, on an island out there or be on the record with that and
continuing on with this role, he would rather just not, not, not cast the yes vote. He also might
be trying to get out before it all goes
kaput. That's the thing that I get to is like if you look at all the other stuff
that's going on and all these other whispers and you know people kind of
making alliances and all that. Maybe it's I don't know if he's making a play
for commissioner. I don't know if he's if he's part of one of the other groups.
It just seems like there's there's a lot at play here, especially when they announced that Jay's coming back this week. And people didn't even
know at the tour. Like this was going to be my yeti coldest moment of the week. Well,
we can save it. So, you know, or Cody time, I'm going to do that now. Okay. So, yeah, like,
you know, Jay's been out in Steam, but fly fishing for a month.
Ribbon lips.
And, you know, people on the,
yeah, it's a picture of Jay there.
I was up in the steam, but I snapped that picture
for the July weekend.
I mean, you know, and I think like people at the tour,
like in the, like executive level got, like, found out about the news that Jay was coming back via Twitter and the press calling them for comment.
It just goes like something's something's wrong.
And a lot is wrong. A lot is going well. It is.
No, they hired a new PR firm in Washington.
They hired a new PR firm in Washington. I think the other PR firm that they were working or the other lobbyists that they were working
with is now representing the 9-11 families.
Yeah.
Which is tough.
I don't know.
I'm very keen.
I think the next month is going to be really interesting for the tour.
This week could be very interesting.
Yeah.
Big meeting in DC on Tuesday.
We'll see what happens.
Of course, Jay couldn't come back for that,
but he's coming back later.
We can, you know, it's great.
I think Kevin Ronald do fine in front of, in front of,
I've actually heard good reviews from internal at,
you know, from, from people at the tour, say,
and you do not trust or you can't.
No, he's like shut up.
He's up for it.
He knows where the bodies are buried. He's not going to
get spooked up there for a comment. If you're listening by now, oh my god, I'm bad. My boys are getting
throttled here on the on the on the on the monitor. I know. Sorry. I'm sorry. We got a house guest. I
told him to get off the wife. We're going to have an interview. If you're probably up by midday tomorrow, I interviewed Senator Ron Johnson actually talking
about the upcoming hearing on Tuesday, a bit of a primer for that.
I made all best efforts to get both sides of the aisle represented, did not hear back from
senators, widen or senators, Bloomingfall.
I did my best to make it a nonpart is an issue or hear both sides of it,
but I spoke with Ron Johnson about what to expect from it and what governments roll in
it is in it. So you can probably find that on your podcast feed by by midday on Monday.
So stolen valor Richard Blooming. All. Yeah.
Hate it.
Get.
Solly, take me to actually want to shout out Brendan Quinn. Yes.
For an excellent. Yeah, that was really good. This week on the live stuff. The base group there was Yosser came to the meeting and said basically,
you know, they're, they were dropping a litigation regardless of whether they came to an
understanding or not. She was shocking. So, I mean, some boy really did not want to go through the sky.
Or more deposition or deposition.
Um, solid.
Will you, can we talk about the Wimbledon picks?
Yes.
Um, there was some, a lot of picks floating around.
I want to, I want to first talk about the, of course, the Justin, uh, Jordan, Ricky ones,
uh, our board Jordan.
Um, I don't know what, if he's packing packing poorly or I don't know if he doesn't have,
you know, an iron in his hotel room. I don't know what exactly the situation was for
spieth, but it's T.C. he called him a ragamuff and I texted Grille, I said, like, we got to do
better. We got to wear better shoes. We got a whole thing. It just looked really, really poorly
put together. I thought Ricky and VT Ricky especially looked responded.
Yes.
So props to them.
And you know, somebody else look responded.
Probably he did.
Oh my god.
Let's save that for later.
Maybe if he didn't.
All right.
So it's really take us to the DP world tour.
DP world tour.
I was watching this pretty keenly today.
I was really pulling for our boy, Richie Ramsey. Big shot Bob had quite a meltdown on the back nine. It was quite unfortunate
to make triple bokeh. That would have been great for TC's vision. Fun. He totally a tough
evacuate tough weekend for TC's tots. Yeah. We had Richie Ramsey made a double bogey
on the 18th hole. Unfortunately, he had a one shot lead. It's a tough 18th hole. It's
kind of a circus 18th hole, but I've seen that hole in Europe in a lot of places.
There's a lot of golf courses that look like this around Europe.
He then Rasmus Huygard and Nacho Elvira ended up in a playoff that went so long that American
networks just abandoned it completely.
It went off golf channel and it said it was on golf
channel.com. It was not when I went there and then yeah, to go to NBC sports app, not
the cock, but NBC sports app, which apparently I don't have anymore. I didn't think I needed
it anymore. So I couldn't watch. Why can't they put that on the cock? Randy, what do we
always say? The cock will never help you. It's it's all about it. It's not just never in their side of bonus. I don't want to support the cock,
but having the cock out on course where I could pop an ear button and watch the cock while
I wander around the golf course was helpful. Aircock was watching so much, so much coverage
from on the course. It was wild. Yeah. Shout shout out to Randall Stephenson and 18T for the bandwits.
That's true. That's shout to my boy, John Stanky. All right.
Stanky thing. So yeah, Rasmus Whiteguard eventually wanted, I don't know how, but in the sixth
playoff hole that took a long time, there was an update. And I'm just like, dude, guys,
American TV abandoned this a long time ago. Like it's lost Steve here, unfortunately.
But yeah, Mac and Tyre played flawless golf for like 11 or 12 holes and then
she makes the triple and then makes another bogey.
Just can't do that.
Yeah, we just can't do that.
Nacho Elvira, Mark Warren, Warren,
and Kaiy Samuia.
I think I'm pronouncing that correctly.
He's finished qualified for the open.
So you want those F1 drivers, they got playing golf over there. Yeah.
Nico, Nico,
Iloon live London at Centurion Cameron Smith won the individual title. He missed a relatively
short putt on the par five 18th for par, which would have forced a team playoff. I believe
the first one in the lead history between them and the aces. Yes. Everyone knows the aces, but not a lot of people know Stinger GC. And no,
the rippers, not for me. I'm sorry. I'm getting there, man. I'm really trying to get into
this thing because it's so along Jeviti is obviously guaranteed here. The aces do get
the team victory. TC noted here that six place minutes for the cleaks on the move. It feel battle is just electric right now.
Cleaks beat the crushers, they beat the fireballs. Torque is
like just so inconsistent. And then we guys smash finished
11th in the midterm, well, Brooksy will be, well finished last place,
DFL behind C1 Kim.
C1, by the way, C1 Kim has,
I think this was the first time
he hadn't finished in last place
all year.
He's made almost a million dollars
on course this year.
These things are healthy.
Things are healthy and pro golf right now. What a world. That's incredible.
I feel like they should get Derek Bell in do a little operation shut down.
He could teach him the finer points about just quitting on your team.
Yeah. In the midst of a season things are things are
percolating between Brooksian Wolf.
The fact that they haven't been able to arrange a trade yet.
I mean, can you trade? You would think the GM managers and the GMs would be.
No, there's no mechanism. Hot stuff seems to be non-existent.
Well, I mean, his his his cap hit is just too big. I mean, it's it would, you know,
there's not a lot of teams that had that much trade exception, I think.
Well, and now we've got this this first apron and second apron.
Right. Right.
John Hollinger was walking us through it.
Yeah.
Crazy.
I know.
What do you want to say on a more serious note?
What'd you make of Brooks calling out Wolfie publicly?
And some of the reaction, I was, well, let me just ask you, Sally, what would you think
of all that?
First of all, I still will maintain like this is probably the most interesting thing about
live.
And if you had a team format with all the best
players, and there was dynamics like this going on, I think
that would be legitimately interesting. It's a it's a very
real beef. If you get anybody to tell by them just like
removing that wolf from their social channels several
weeks with things blew up in DC. And they I guess they couldn't
move them. And now it's just this awkward phase of they got to
play this out and finish it. But Brooks said, yeah, I guess they couldn't move them and now just this awkward phase of they got to play this out and finish it.
But Brooks said, yeah, I basically give it up on him. He's wasted talent.
I, like everything with Brooks, I'm always crediting him for actually being someone to speak out in the media and give us things to talk about.
But probably something that could have been kept behind closed doors if I was a team leader and I wanted to work, I guess recruit people to play for your team in the future for as long as this thing exists, but it was it's a lot of people asking is this fake juice to like made up by live. No, it's not.
It's a very real beef and yeah, it's an interesting dynamic look into what could be interesting about team golf.
It just will never be interesting at the scale with Liz golf. Do you guys see the flash mob?
Oh, did I have cores?
Did you tell the flash mob?
Yeah.
What's the, what movie is it from the tweet with a guy that's just looking super sad behind
the computer?
Somebody captioned a tweet this week that was just like, the live sims locking online one more day to defend this stuff. It got me so good.
This sort of got that from dirty mics, Twitter. I'll tell you what bothers me a little bit
about it is like it's it's cringey, it's lame, it's it's, you know, it's all of those
things. I kind of resent the the live boys and the live stands wanting to like heads
we win, tails you lose situation where it's, you know, anything bad is actually good
because it's like those advertisements on the bus benches like see you looked. I don't
know man. Like if we can't call anything like dumb and stupid again, like what are we even
doing? Like that drill tweet. like eat more on nothing matter.
Yeah. There's not such thing as good. Yeah. Here's the difference. We're all, we
always get accused of of whatever standing for the PGA tour, like the difference between
us and them. We will make fun of this exact thing, whether it happens on the PGA tour,
the DP world tour or the live tour. And the fact that the live boys like rushed to defend this is
like all the window into all of this that anyone needs to see of the discourse.
It's a tell. It's so stupid, deeply unserious people.
Code man, what are you going to say? We also got the portraits, right?
Yeah, we got the portraits. That's where I was going to go next. Look at these. Like,
I can't make this sub that they,
I guess these portraits were gifted to every captain.
Solid.
Cool.
Cool.
That's right.
Looks exactly like him.
I mean,
Roy, Roy, Roy.
Roy's Camel looks just like Roy, right?
Yeah, that's interesting.
Lord Baba.
He actually, I mean, I kind of dig that actually
That ain't it Duke Bryson's just not happening. Yeah, it's silly. I don't know
It's just a silly week all all together. I don't understand like the like Randy was saying
The oh of course you guys are making fun of something holy cow talk about golden hour on a live show
I just realized Behind us crazy. It's such such good light here do you know what happens like
you guys I'm sorry you're sitting on the bench you're getting blasted right
now do you know what helps that though you have some nice cool water that you
drink out of your yeti rambler that's right the 18 ounce rambler is your
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This of course is the yeti coldest moment of the week. We're going to start with Mr. T.C.
I already did it. I already did it. The, you know, the PGA tour. Big J, not telling anybody's coming back. Just
just throwing it out there like, hey, Big J, I'm back'm I'm writing a letter to the players. I'm stoked to get back. I've been ripping lips.
Cutties, you know, rainbows, browns, brooks, all those were back big J. I guess it's not till the 19 17.
17th. Welcome back dog. Uh, and congrats on the win today with, uh, with
corpus. Yeah. Of course. All right, Sully, what do you got? Uh, this one goes out to my
guy, TC. Um, I don't know how he does it all. I don't know how he's out in the west coast
and yet taken in Wimbledon as well. Absolutely stunting on the folks. If you don't know, TC, where is these hats, but
only in private.
You guys are sick.
He was a pork cry guy.
People have never let us photograph him wearing these hats. We are, we had one video
that we, it was an awesome video that we shot and he realized we had one shot of him in
the hat and he wouldn't let us publish the video, but he loves wearing these pork cry hats
and he has for many years. And Tee, Tommy Fleetwood said
he was thinking about TC on the back nine of the of the RBC Canadian Open. Have to think he was
thinking about our boy TC, paying homage to him here at Wimbledon wearing the TC hat. That is my
Yeti coldest moment of the week. Yeah, you and what you and Sally and Neil and DJ decided a
couple of years ago, like how
did you guys decide to just make that a big?
That was DJ.
We needed a bit.
Everybody needs a good bit.
Do you wear these hats?
No, yes.
No, the only time I've ever worn anything remotely resembling that is when I did the hitter
Blanco.
That's not true.
While we're the golf at Winter Park, you also did if we can pull that up.
Oh, that's true.
He's my wife's hat though.
He's been getting away from it in recent years.
That's right.
I thought you're a big felt hat guy going around Oxford.
Let me turn this one into a Thursday night.
Noxford saw you remember.
He's always had like that.
Absolutely.
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My coldest moment of course, we brought it up already.
I didn't flash the picture then, but some's going on with Jordan here.
His suit, he must have maybe the jet was later. Some might that he didn't have time to steam it up already. I didn't flash a picture of them, but some's going on with Jordan here. His suit
He must have maybe the jet was later some night that he didn't have time to steam it up
And he of course, you know probably has other things going on
They're all chasing kids around
But overall just kind of a poor performance here from our guy wrinkly
It looks like he pulled it straight out of his NLU laundry bag
That was a nesk gift from last year that people used to dump on.
That could be the best gift ever received from a membership that you can join.
If you want to join the nest, this is not an ad read.
Anyway, uh, shout out to Ricky and JT, though, like stunting all over it.
If people are going to take in Wimbledon once in a lifetime opportunity, right?
I'm jealous. I would do it right.
I would love to do exactly what they're doing.
Uh, Cody, I know we weren't sure if I was going to still would do it right. I would love to do exactly what they're doing.
Cody, I know we weren't sure if I was going to still be on the show, so I didn't we didn't prepare graphics for a coldest moment for myself. Maybe onika. I'm going off the cuff.
No, I'm going led daylight crews stealing three consecutive bases on three pitches, including
home on on Saturday night. The guy's just, he's an absolute
superstar. And he, he makes me want to watch baseball, which is honestly the highest
compliment. The highest compliment you could give. Yeah. It was, I was watching it live
when it happened and I screamed like it was one of the most exciting plays of baseball
I've ever seen in a close ball game, stealing third base. And then the third
base one was not covering the bags who takes it hugely. The pitcher turns around to face
second base and he took off for home, stole home. A lot of reds fans in Milwaukee. It's
out of like just screaming, chanting Ellie afterward. He's 21 years old. It was incredible.
They lost, they lost two out of three. Unfortunately, but unbelievable first half for the reds.
I still can't believe we've earned first place.
It's solid. I do want to give a shout out to your guy Bob Huggins, who, you know, very
cold moment is now starting. He didn't resign. He may have taken some motivation from Monahan,
but she's like, I'm back guys or from Monica or from us. Yes, I never resigned. What are
you all talking about? In my defense, I was blacked out when I resigned and I don't remember it.
So I'd like to still be at the coach. No, it's time. It's time, Bob. It's, uh, yeah,
you bring it up. You're done. Strike three called strike three. I don't care if you resigned.
It's, uh, you're like, go take care of yourself.
Then go get it right. So you know, what else is time? It's time for us to wrap this thing up.
Cody, I'm so fucking proud of you, man.
Awesome.
Awesome week for us out here at Pebble.
T.C. got us a rental house.
I know.
T.C.
It's incredible.
It is.
Well, I blasted out.
Hey, will you guys do me a favor?
Go outside wherever it is and enjoy a beverage for me.
You guys were awesome.
We killed it all week.
I wish I could have been there.
But thank you for holding down the fort and
Traveling across the country and putting all the all the efforts you did into this championship. It was fucking awesome.
Do you know how hard it was? My bedroom looks directly out at the 13th and 14th holes at Cyprus. You know how hard it was?
To just like wake up to that every day. I'm like
Not today. Yeah. Don't turn that
We also appreciate people sending us messages
and saying that, hey, we've also rented this Airbnb
in the past just to let you know the frosted glass.
The frosted glass.
It's at the front of the house.
It's not frosted all the way.
So if you're showering there, just
let you know you're going to get a little looksy
Lou from outside the gate.
So I think that's where we're going to have the Eggman out tonight.
It's been a great week.
You know, it's funny when you talk about investment and then like women's professional golf at the highest level and stuff like that.
There's not a lot of people that you saw out here.
You saw the big companies, obviously they're supporting, but I want to give a shout out to our guy here.
Andy, everybody knows him.
I'm surprised he didn't jump in when we were talking about the septic tank. I know he was resisting hard.
It was a great day. I mean, you're a pian writer cup lock. He's going to have the whole team
decked out and squares by that end of the week. What do you think about the mo line on
on four this month? Oh, God. I don't want to talk about that. Let's go argue about that
outside. We can talk about that another day, but you
know, it was great to see the women at Pebble, but maybe, uh, maybe time for Pebble to do some
updating. Don't leave me hanging here. All right. Shout out to KVV and Jordan. Check out
their pieces, drop in overnight about the women's open. Is that all? KVV's already here.
Thank you, everybody.
Thank you, Sully.
Hopefully I did you, you know, did you just buy it by man
and everything.
I'm sorry.
I tried to keep the chef under control.
He kept coming out with tasting menus.
I couldn't control him.
I kept it.
Thank you to high noon.
Of course, thank you to Roeback.
Thank you to the listeners and viewers who are with us all week.
Next live show is not going to be next weekend.
I understand that it's a designated event.
It's not a designated event.
It's just cos.
Well, co-scienton, you'll see us next time at the the British.
You can't just say it.
You can't, you guys for, yeah, I mean,
give me a nice place to stay.
We'll play in the music.
I saw it, see you, buddy.
It's out.
Good night, guys.
See ya, cheers.
I'm gonna write club, right?
Be the right club today.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's better than most.
How about him?
That is better than most.
Better than most. That is better than most. Better than most.