No Such Thing As A Fish - 385: No Such Thing As Crossing the Futility Boundary
Episode Date: August 6, 2021Dan, James, Anna and Andrew discuss Albatrosses, Cheetahs, Mangles, Rocking Chairs, Dolly Parton and plenty more besides. Visit nosuchthingasafish.com for news about live shows, merchandise and more ...episodes.
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Hi everyone, welcome to this week's episode of no such thing as a fish coming to you live from my editing suite straight to your ears
We are all on holiday this week having a nice relaxing time
Enjoying the great British weather and so what we have for you is one of our
Compilation specials loads of fun bits from the last few months that didn't quite fit into the show
But a really funny really stupid really just does messing around these are always my favorite episodes by the way
I absolutely love them
I genuinely think some of the best bits of fish that we've ever done have been in these compilations
But it's all sorts of bits all sorts of subjects loads and loads of facts loads and loads of fun
We really really hope you enjoy it. We will be back next week with a normal episode with a very special guest
More on that next week, but for now, I guess all there is to say is on with the podcast
Hello and welcome to another episode of no such thing as a fish a weekly podcast coming to you from four undisclosed
Locations in the UK. My name is Dan Schreiber
I am sitting here with Anna Tyshinski James Harkin and Andrew Hunter Murray and once again
We have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven days and in a particular order here
We go starting with you
Andy my fact is that after his death Anton Chekhov was brought back to Russia in a refrigerator wait in over fridge awaited
Bugs Bunny's gonna be doing my back for me. I had a friend who used to sleep with his eyes open, so
Every now and then we'd be sat in the front room like you know
Playing video games or something or just chatting and then we'd be like, oh rich hasn't spoken for a while
He'd be sat there with his eyes open and it turned out he was asleep. Are you sure he wasn't just trying to avoid talking to you
Clever way
He did sometimes talk in his sleep and say shut the fuck up James
We had just in the sort of modern-day theater version of that
James and I got a behind-the-scenes tours of the Harry Potter and the Curse Child set
which is the play in in the West End in London and
It we were told at the time that takes about a million pounds a week to run the whole production
There were so many different little bits and pieces that go into putting it on and one of the things that they have is
There's a moment where
Two of the characters need to emerge from a lake and they've built under the stage a massive water tank
So on the payroll for the Curse Child are two scuba instructors who go inside with these kid actors
And they have a they have a little mouth-breather on and then they come up through the stage
Completely soaking so it's like this body of water, but that's how that's why can I just say I was on this tall with Dan
And he's talking rubbish. It's all magic the whole play
Completely magic and the reason I know that is because when you go backstage you can see all the ones
backstage and they're plugged in
to the
Electricity so you know that it's definitely working. Well, I didn't know you needed to charge a wand. They're all Bluetooth
Now
Sorry, I don't understand why these children had to be submerged in water before they came on stage
Was it just so they looked wet? No, no, they came up through the floor of the stage
So it was a tank built underneath the stage. So they were coming up
You but why are they in that right? Sorry, I don't know the plot because this is the story coming out of a lake
Oh, they're coming out of a lake. Sorry. I missed that bit. Right. Well, that makes sense. I
I actually went to see the play so I should remember that. Wow, but I did leave at the interval
It's literally just before the interval. It's the last thing you would have seen
Well, I remember you came out saying there's a fucking lake in this one alone a bullshit. Why are they so wet?
I don't understand how they did it. I can't my brain can't fathom
Do you know who is the highest grossing actor of all time I got sent this by our friend Justin Gaynor on email
Yesterday, he asked me if I knew
The highest grossing actor. So what this means is if you're in a movie
They add the entire amount of money that that movie has made to your amount. So it's brilliant
Who's been in the most very very high profile movies in history?
I think it was the guy who I mentioned a few episodes ago Frank Welker
Scooby-Doo and the Grinch he did the dog in the Grinch think about that the Grinch is big
But it's not the biggest think about the biggest movies of all time
Andy Serkis has been in the biggest movies of all time as CGI guy. So what's your what are you naming as biggest movies there?
Avatar Lord of the Rings
Think bigger
adaptation of little Doran
That's what so bigger than that even
Even bigger than King Kong and and Lord of the Rings Star Wars again. Have we heard of this person or is it?
Yeah, you've heard of extra than this got the best chance to get this I would say but you are my someone who plays some Harrison Fredby
background II
Yes, yes
Someone in Jackie Chan films. No, no thick. What's the biggest grossing movie of all time? Titanic? No
Ben her
It's a new movie. I don't know where the wind is fair, but I'm talking about actual adventures adventures
Okay, and almost all of the top 20 are Marvel films. Yes. So Robert Downey Jr. Is no
Someone who's been in all of them John Favreau. Nope
Samuel L. Jackson, he's number two. He's number two, but he's not been in all of them Stanley Stan Lee
Because he is in a tiny cameo in every single Marvel movie up until he died and the couple after he died as well
And so if you add up all of those amounts, then he is the biggest of all time
And he was in more rats as well Kevin Smith's movie
I'm not sure if he was in Little Doritz, but
he might have been
At the moment right now, there are 200 spy albatrosses in the world
Which are flying around logging illegal fishing vessels. This is very cool
It's interesting because fishermen hate albatrosses famously
They do the H and Mariner and stuff. So now they have good reason to hate them. They do have good reason. Yeah
the French National Center for Scientific Research it fitted them with little GPS trackers because it's like there are so many
illegal fishing boats out there
But they and they switch off their their unique ID systems to try and stay cover all by all fishing boats
Have a sort of radio ID system and if if you're fishing in illegal waters, then you turn it off
But the the birds cover so much ground
You know, they can see a fishing boat from 20 miles away and they can pick up the the GPS signals that these
boats aren't able to switch off and in the first six months of the trial
They found 353 fishing vessels in that time of which one third had their ID systems switched off
Implying that they were up to no good and fishing in illegal waters. So this could be a this could be a useful
Technique and today so but they're doing it unwillingly the albatrosses, right?
I think they ever get together and say I hate this bloody, you know monitoring collar. They've put on me
It's a real it's a real albatross around my neck
Very good. They find that very offensive actually Anna
I
Didn't see for such a long time where you were going with that. I knew I'd have to see it all the way through it was
It's just not quite common parlance enough that you don't have to finish it off
There's only one other thing I know about cheaters
And it's that this is a really strange thing
It's that if you if you have cheaters in a zoo, you have to be really careful to pick up their poos because they
There's a particular disease which is spread via cheetah feces and normally they have massive ranges and you know
They never come across their own poos again. Well, obviously, that's not the case in a zoo
but in the wild
Scientists study them by their poos, but it's a real problem because cheetah families all poo at the same time
So if well, they do say a family that poos together stays together, don't they?
It's really a nightmare
So you've got a cheetah family you're a scientist observing them and it gives you the DNA and you can work out who's fathered whom
Which is really interesting because cheetah females make with lots of different males and then produce a letter
You know, you can have three different cubs in a letter by different three different fathers
So it's useful to know who's fathered whom for your studies
But obviously they spread out and do their mass poo at the same time
You have to photograph all the cheetahs as they poo you have to map the poos
Then you have to assign the right poo to the right cheetah and then you can study them by the DNA
I remember growing up in quite a large family and every morning
It was a bit of a stress to see who could get in for a shower first
But imagine the jeopardy if you all have to poo at the same time
That is oh my god, thank you
If I've just had a vindaloo and like, you know, I've got my seven siblings there and I'm saying I'm absolutely desperate guys
Are you ready yet? Well, I have to wait sort of seven hours until one of them is managing to crimp one out
Very stressful
And then do you see that's why sometimes when you're wandering through Africa you see bags hanging on trees, don't you?
Yeah, the cheetah scientists who've left those poo bags then they always claim they're gonna come back and pick them up
You know in recent podcast and I was mentioning to us how Stephen King is the master of just taking anything and turning it into a
Horror story no matter how ridiculous. He just knows how to do it. So have you guys heard of the Stephen King story the mangler?
No, no, and this this was made into a movie
The story is about a police detective
Investigating a sudden rash of deaths caused by an industrial laundry press and this is a laundry press
That has become possessed by a demon
So the the villain in this actual story is a laundry press itself going around killing people. Yeah
He can run around
Well, actually he's more interesting to me he's in he's in he's in his is in laundry room
So no, so you're safe if you don't go in the laundry room
Yeah, that's a good strap line for the film
In fact, I suppose just you're kind of probably safe as long as you don't put yourself into the mango, right?
Yeah, it's not
The mango must have some kind of independent movement where it can attack you, right?
How it might it might lure you in it might be like hey hey come
You know, it might it might speak and get you to go to it or something like that
But I see what you're saying James. It's like we're all we're all safe from Charles Bronson unless we go into his cell like that's
You're right. Just don't go into his cell. It's a terrifying thought to leave us all with
Well, they were they were very dangerous though mangles. So in a way, this sounds like it was more historical
Documentary than his classic horror
They were think people used to get injured all the time
I was reading a book that was called save women's lives the history of washing machines
Which was written in 2003 about how
And it went it was a by a guy who runs a museum about washing machines
And he said whenever he showed people around at least one older person would reveal a scar
They had from an angle at some point
So every you know every time he had one
Who was like oh, yeah and revealed a huge bald patch on her head from where she was scalped by it
Because they'd be steam powered quite often and then electric of course so you couldn't stop them
So if you got your hair caught in a mangle, that's your scalp
Then why are all these people who presumably have PTSD from being mangled in a mangle going to a mangle museum?
It's some Stockholm syndrome isn't it?
They've fallen in love with their mangler
See Stephen King finger on the pulse. There's obviously a huge market for this
I gotta say that honestly like you always tell us how great Stephen King is and then you regale us with some bullshit story
That makes no sense at all
Diane Keaton just a bit of celebrity trivia. Yeah Diane Keaton wore clothes pegs on her nose to try and make it thinner
Had any surgery plastic surgery, but in many ways this is a kind of surgery
She said in an interview that she did it and the only other person I can find who ever did that was Megan
Little women who used to sleep every night with a peg on her nose to make her nose thinner
I don't think it worked for either of them
But she must have got the idea from little women, right? That's about unless you got it from a cartoon
Because that's the only other people I could think he'd do that. Yeah, we're she doing this when she was a child, Anna
No, no when she was a young woman. Yeah, if you watch Annie Hall again, Andy, you'll see
Diane Keaton has a peg on her nose
Not the new ones they've CGI'd it out, but yeah the original
Anna, did you read that fact while reading about Silvio Sabah by any chance I
Didn't actually
Well, he's got a he can teach Meg from little women and Diane Keaton
I think I'll do because he has the record for the most clothes pegs on his face at the same time in one minute actually the most clothes
Pigs added to the face within a minute. All right. Has it a guess?
Well, I don't think maybe my skin isn't stretchy enough
But I can only imagine being able to get three or four on mine before it gets too stretched out
I'm gonna be honest the Guinness World Record is higher. Yeah, but I didn't expect when you asked me
Well, when I said what I could do I wasn't thinking well, you know, when you say how fast did you say bolt run the 100 meters?
I don't think well, I could do it in about 15 seconds. So probably about the same if it's a world record holder
It's gonna be better than me. It is better. It is five five
Okay, let's be serious seven
Okay, thanks guys. Um, it's 51 in a minute 51. So that's almost one a second
I know and I'm amazed at just the speed of adding them never mind how stretchy his skin is
Yeah, but um, he he has a bit of form because he's one of these guys who has loads and loads of records
So he's also got he's got about 200 records. He's got the record for most underpants pulled on in 30 seconds
You can actually do both of those records at the same time if you had an outdoor clothesline, couldn't you?
I was really about Russian dances and Russian balls
They had a ball season in Russia which lasted from Christmas until Maslenitsa, which is like pancake day
It was brought in by Peter the Great
So they were compulsory if you're in high society you had to go to these balls
The only way is if you had a serious illness or you were in mourning you could miss the ball
But otherwise you had to do it and then you would do all of these dances
You would start with the waltz and then you would do a Hungarian dance
Then you do another dance another dance and then the finer one was the Mazurka
Which was like a big Russian dance where everyone puts their arms around each other, but then you pair off as well
And of course anyone who's read Anna Karenina will be very familiar with that kind of thing because of course
When Anna came into the ball and she danced with Alexi that was kind of the big
Sorry, that's a bit of a spoiler
Don't push your luck James mentioning Anna Karenina
We've got to move on
There used to be cheaters in America, like not pet cheaters, but real kind of wild cheaters
Well, they're false cheaters, but they're kind of very similar
They're called Mira Synonyx
They were known as but they died out
The only reason we know about them is because they have in North America they have pronghorn
And pronghorn are really really fast and they move in lots of directions and stuff like that
And the only way that they could have evolved to have run and dodge and kind of jump around
Is if there had been a predator that was chasing after them
And so they realized that there must be this other thing and so they called it Mira Synonyx
That's bizarre
Which is a false cheater, yeah
And do we have evidence that this cheater cheater existed?
I don't think that they haven't quite found the bones or anything yet
But they just have inferred that there must have been a predator that was faster than these pronghorn
Otherwise, why would they evolve to a get so fast?
Because it's fun, I think that's a big inference
It's fun
It's fun going fast, why do people buy Lamborghinis?
Yeah, well there used to be a predator that had even faster cars than us
That used to come after us and that's why we evolved Lamborghinis
I didn't know that
Can I quickly tell you one thing? I don't think it'll go anywhere
But the first Polish language encyclopedia I just read the other day
It was called Noe Atene, which meant New Athens
And the definition of the word horse is everyone knows what a horse is
It feels like that was the last article they had to write
And they just didn't have the will to do it properly anymore
It's such a good thing
But apparently, and I don't know any Polish obviously
But apparently everyone knows what a horse is
Has become kind of a phrase to mean something that is more obvious than it seems
It looks like a really technical thing, but actually it's really simple
But you stole that encyclopedia entry, it became a sort of in-joke in Poland
Exactly
That is so good
There was a website, Movies From Men, it's called, that did a list
They went through 350 films and they did a death count compiling the deadliest actor list
And this was a few years ago, so it might have changed
I don't know if the expendable movies have been used in this
But so, you know, Aliens, Die Hard, Terminator
I think they're all kind of expendable movies, really, aren't they?
I can't believe you've been driven to go into all these in-cell websites
There's a top ten list, and who do you think has more kills?
Is it Schwarzenegger or Stallone?
Well, I would have said Schwarzenegger personally
I think so too, there are a couple of unbelievably silly sort of commando films where
So I'll say Schwarzenegger too
I know you're not allowed to guess on this because you're not
No, they're not movies for me, are they?
So it is Schwarzenegger, who has, as far as they can tell, 842 kills
He ranks number four on the list, number six on the list is Sylvester Stallone
Yeah, go for it
Have we heard of number one?
Oh, and Stallone, by the way, has 786, so it's not a huge difference between the two of them
But yeah, who's in at number one with 1,296 kills?
I would say it's Moff Tarkin in Star Wars who blows up the planet of Alderaan, of course
Which I'm guessing now is a much lower population than previously imagined
Okay, killing an entire planet, that's good, what about Thanos?
Oh, yeah
I can't imagine who'd get it
Someone in a war, someone in war films, right?
You can't be including pressing a button on a bomb, right?
Otherwise that's not fair
Yeah, I think this is...
They've got to be hand to hand
Hand to hand almost
So I'll give you three and two
Number two is Dolph Lundgren with 919
Two is Jet Li with 1,076
Is it that guy you like?
I know, it'll be Bruce Lee
Bruce Lee, we'll see one
He does not appear on the list
Oh, someone like that
Someone who played a famous...
Jackie Chan, I mean, Jackie Chan
doesn't appear on the list either
Is this someone who played...
What pacifist Jackie Chan likes to keep people alive?
Yeah
Okay
Is it Pikachu from Detective Pikachu?
Yeah, that was a bloodbath at movie
I really regret taking my three-year-old to that
Is it worth it ever?
I mean, how surprising are we going?
Let me give the answer
The answer is Mila Djokovic
The only woman to appear on the list of the top ten
in the man list with 1,296
That's sticking one to the incels, isn't it?
Yeah
Who did you talk about?
Resident Evil
Resident Evil, yeah
He's in all the six Resident Evil films
all of which I've seen
Have you?
They're great
They're so good
You were the one who tallied up the kills for the site, weren't you?
Well, a lot of them are zombies in those films
but I guess that counts
That's it
I don't know
I don't know what criteria movies for men use to make scientific studies
How rigorous is there a search, do you think?
I had pineapple last night for dinner by sheer coincidence
With?
And the reason I had it actually with caramel sauce poured on top
that we received as a Christmas present from some people that we work with
Anna, are you okay?
Sorry, that just sounds like a meal of last resort
is what I'm trying to say
We'll use the Christmas caramel sauce and pour it on top of the pineapple
I mean, it does feel like you had a certain amount of food at Christmas two months ago
and you're getting to the really last bits of the Christmas buffet
It definitely has been there for a while
It was the beginning of December they sent it
I hate waste, you know, and the pineapple was just going off
because no one wants to eat a pineapple
that's been sitting in our fruit bowl for two weeks
who gets delivered with the fruit delivery
And this is why, you know, there's this thing where in the 1700s
people didn't eat pineapples because they were so treasured
they just used them for decoration
but I think it's just because they're such an arse to break into
You can't be bothered
Yes, they are a bit of a pain
I always, this is not going to go in
but I always make like a green curry and put it inside the pineapple
right, so you scoop out all the pineapple stuff
and then you put the green curry inside
but it is unbelievably difficult to scoop out
It's alright if you slice it up, it's not that hard
but if you're trying to scoop out the inside, it's completely impossible
Do you eat the pineapple on the side?
Pineapple goes in the curry as well
Very nice, very nice
and then I save some of it and usually have it with like
meat the next day when I used to eat meat
because like it goes well with gammon and stuff, doesn't it?
Mmm, yes
Classic
Anyway
Join us next week for Cooking with Harkin
That's funny
Who takes the most naps on the planet in national terms?
Well, I would have thought like the Spaniards maybe
Yeah, Spain
Spain has such a reputation for their siestas
and it's not born out, almost 60% never have a siesta
Spanish working hours are longer
and they tend to sleep a bit less than the rest of Europe
and do you know who's fault it is?
Was it like the Nazis?
They're usually sublime for everything, aren't they?
Yeah
It was, it was the Nazis
It's the fascists
But it's the Spanish fascists presumably
Actually, no, it's the German fascists in cahoots with the Spanish fascists
So in 1942, General Franco, the fascist,
changed the country's clocks in Spain to match Berlin's time zone
in solidarity with Hitler
and no one ever changed them back
and so Spain is on Central European time
or European Central time
which is the same as Warsaw, 1200 miles east of there
and this is a mad time zone for the country of Spain to be in
It's part of the reason that Spanish people work
I mean, also the weather and so on
but, you know, Spanish people tend not to eat until 9pm
they don't go to bed before midnight
There is a whole campaign to get Spain back onto GMT
because Spain is just not in the right time zone
for the circadian rhythms of the people who live there
Wow
You would have thought there's a real two strong arguments
which doesn't work for them in terms of the circadian rhythms
and B, it's got a strong association with fascists
I know
Ditch it guys
Can I say one more thing about soap detergents
seeing as this was about that
There is a thing at the moment in Europe
called the CERN Axion Solar Telescope
and it's that CERN
and they're trying to find these tiny particles called axions
and axions are particles that are a little bit related to
the Higgs boson and things like that
they're going to help us explain what dark matter is if we find them
They were named by a guy called Frank Wilczek
and the reason that he called them axions
is because that was his favourite soap powder that he used
and he said that it sounded a bit like a subatomic particle, doesn't it?
an axion, kind of sounds like it
but he said if they find them it will clean up a problem with particle physics
Lovely
Nice
He's also got the best interns name ever
Who's going to sort this out? Oh, Frank Wilczek
Do baboons have sex for pleasure or do they just have it for procreation?
I don't know
I don't know
They seem like fun loving criminals
I know bonobos do
Yeah, bonobos love it
Like kind of an in between
Bonobo is nearly a nanogram of baboon
Well that's why I was thinking actually
I think if any animal is a nanogram of another animal
I'm always disappointed when melons and lemons don't taste the same
I think they kind of should
Yeah, absolutely
Yeah
And they've both got boobs and knobs
if you sort of break their names down
They do, yeah
That sounds quite sexy
Yeah
Well, we've revealed a lot
This is why lexicographers and zoologists are very different beasts
It's so nice to leave knowledge out there for the experts
Any baboon expert listening won't feel threatened by this podcast, I think
I think my favorite thing that I found out about Air Force One
Is that there was a room temperature button
A little dial that was added onto the plane
And this was because President Johnson
When he was Vice President
He kept arguing with the crew about lowering and raising the temperature of the cabin
He was always too cold or it's too hot
And so they eventually got tired of this
And they installed a temperature control in the conference room
But it was fake
Didn't work at all
And so he could go up and change it on his own
Never changed anything
But he'd go, that's better
And sit down
And think that he'd controlled the weather inside
Okay, that's what we call gas lighting
And this man is a cool guy
There was a haunted rocking chair in the 50s
Did anyone read about that?
No
I read about this
It was in a blog called Strange Company
Which I can highly recommend
It's an unbelievably good blog
And this was an article from the Baltimore Sun
Of the April the 29th, 1950
About a rocking chair with a mind of its own
And what it was
Is there was a family called the Floyd Holidays
And they had a rocking chair
And it just wouldn't stop rocking all the time
And it just had rocked nonstop for 37 days
And it became really, really famous
And was on TV in America
People would go on chat shows
And these people would go on chat shows
And they'd be like, yeah, we've got a rocking chair
That won't stop rocking
And a lot of people kind of went to visit the house
They almost got rid of it
Because so many people were coming to visit
This haunted rocking chair
And some people said that maybe it was
Vibrations from the refrigeration motor
That was going off right next to it
But when they moved it to another house
It carried on rocking as well
And then eventually they took it to be on TV
This rocking chair
And it had to go through an airport
And some vandals hearing about it
Ripped it up and kind of looked inside it
To see if there was some motors or something like that
And it was insured for $1,000
So the insurance company said
Well, I would give you $1,000
Or you can have $700 and you can keep the chair
And that's what they went for
But it kind of stopped continually rocking
At that point
And we don't know why it was rocking all the time
But most people think that perhaps it was
The legs were in a way
That they never quite got in
Hang on, isn't that a perpetual motion machine?
Isn't that the thing we're told can't happen?
Exactly, that's why it's mysterious
That's why it's in the newspapers I think
I can't believe all the world's scientists
All the brilliant minds have not yet figured out
This rocking chair
I imagine probably they had other things to figure out
But basically what happened was
Whenever it started moving, I assume
It just took ages to stop
And then other things would get it moving again
And it just would carry on rocking for ages
I bet, I bet when people came to see it
They said, right, don't go in
Don't go into the room just yet
As soon as anyone went in, the chair was rocking
But also Grandpa was just shuffling away from it
Right, look there, you've seen it's rocking
And no one's sitting at it, right?
You better leave, come on, get out, get out
You're probably right
Donald Trump obsessed with badges apparently
Sorry, I know we all thought we'd never have to talk about it
And I'm bringing it back
But there was a report near the start of his term
That he, from within the White House
Among his staff
That said he would constantly
Be asking Ryan's pre-brass
Who was his chief of staff at the time
About badges and was interrogating him
Because Ryan's was from Wisconsin
Which is the home of the American Badger
I think it's their state animal
And he'd say things like, do they have personality?
Are they boring? How do they work?
Are they mean to people?
I don't know about badges
Wow, there was a badger in the White House
Wasn't there? I think it was Roosevelt
Had one called Josh
I'm going from memory here
Oh, that means a bird
Teddy Roosevelt
Because he had almost all animals, didn't he?
And he had a lot of crazy pets
I think he might have, this is again also
From memory, but was he in Wisconsin
And like a little girl said
Do you want a badger?
And he said, yeah, sure
He went away 10 minutes later
Came back with a badger
And then he had to keep her
Maybe Trump read about that
And thought, if Teddy gets one
I want one
I mentioned it mainly because
Did you know that the nickname that
Scaramucci had for Ryan's pre-brass
Was Rancid Penis
It's amazing that Scaramucci only lasted
10 days of his job with his back of making friends
Oh, I've got a
This isn't a gross butterfly
Actually, it's just a weird sex
Butterfly thing
Which is, and it's another American one
Actually, it's in the Sierra Nevada mountains
There's a butterfly which has been discovered
To be a hybrid of two completely
Separate species of butterfly
Which at some point shagged
Each other and
Produced fertile offspring
That's completely counter to the way
The Tree of Life normally works
Split, you know
So this is one of
A handful of cases of branches merging
Wow, is this
The beginning of the end? Is this when we all start
Contracting back down into one single
Species?
So we're all, you know
And we're back to this theory, are we, Anna?
This theory is from about
Four years ago, which is
That we're all going to evolve back into
Amoebas
Oh, wow
Before
That I'm consistent
If not good that I forget
What I've said as soon as I say it
Okay, here's the thing about changing
From black and white to colour and back again
This is mad
So James' fact is about
The
Israel removing colour
And that was done again in the UK in 1970
By ITV
Where the staff went on strike
They went on a three month colour strike
Where they were objecting over their pay rates
And so they just started
Making shows black and white again
And because these were quite technical shows to be filmed
They just refused to work with the colour TV
Equipment, they switched off the colour tubes
On the cameras they were working with
And for three months ITV just had to go back to black and white
Because the staff were
So funny
And then eventually they resolved the strike
And they turned, they were willing to make colour TV
Shows again
I wonder if they lost a lot of viewers in that time
You know last year when the archers
Couldn't have the Covid
Because it seems to be run by a 120 year old person
So it was just monologues
For about six months
And I think a lot of people said
They would leave the show
But their listenership has
Sustained and recovered
So maybe the same
Great news
It's neither black or white nor colour actually
The archers obviously
What your imagination is like
I can't have a fantasia
But that is true
Isn't it, is that right
That some people imagine things in black and white
Or dream in black and white
It's when they grew up with black and white TV
James, you know that condition
That you have, the aphantasia
Where you can't imagine
Things that are not
Images that are not there
I can't close my eyes and imagine anything
I was thinking the other day
It's very weird that it's called aphantasia
Because Disney's fantasia is one of the most
Extravagant colourful
imaginative things ever made
And do you know what the prefix A means
No, it means without
Yeah
So absolutely not weird at all
When you really break it down
When you blow the shit white open
When you blow the shit white open
Okay
Hey, there was another musical knife
That I found
Which was from Switzerland in the early 19th century
It's really gorgeous, it's like an early
Very basic Swiss army knife
But it's got two blades
One for fruit and one for flowers
And if you could imagine a tiny Swiss army knife
What's the difference between those two things
It's like you've got your fruit knife
And you're trying to cut up top off the flowery
Like this is not working at all
I will tell you, I know
What it's for, because the fruit one
The fruit blade is guilt
And that's so the fruit juice won't corrode it
When you slice your lemon
Fine, I suppose that does make sense
Exactly, and then the flower one
I guess it does, there's no problem
But it's got a musical mechanism inside
And this is, I think it's from about 1800
And it's got a little clockwork
Barrel inside
And it plays music, and this was on the antistrogera
A few years ago
Sounds incredibly annoying at the dinner table, doesn't it
And it's going to ruin the vibe if you are trying to murder someone
If you stab someone in the heart
And it starts playing twinkle twinkle
It starts playing, doesn't it
But is that what happens
At most of your dinner parties, Anna
It is, yeah
I've got a very big cellar
There are some industry legends of naming drugs
Which I like as well
Arlene Tech is
Very famous in the biz
As the woman named Viagra
That was her huge innovation
She did it by speaking to
So Viagra is a brand name, not a
Generic name
And she did it by asking a group of urologists
What it's like
What it feels like for men when you've had erectile dysfunction
And then it's cured
And one of the doctors said, imagine a strong stream
And she combined the word vigorous
And the word niagra and came up with Viagra
Ah, that's good
Yeah, really good
Yeah
The US can be strict on
It's rules about
Like even brand naming, right
You've got quite strong rules of brand naming
And the US seems to
The US rules seem to basically say
You're not allowed to suggest that the medicine works
So there are a few things
Like there's a hair regrowth
Treatment called Regain
It's called Regain in Europe and the rest of the world
In America it's called Rogaine
Because you're not allowed to suggest
That it's always going to cause your hair to regrow
I think hair growth stuff
Is generally
Oh, it's Dodgers Health
Yeah, absolutely, they're done
There's another one called
Which is a stop smoking tablet that you take
Which is called Champix
And in America it's Chantix
Because Champix is a little bit too
Triumphant
Exactly
What if you take them and then you're back on 40 a day
By the end of the week
It's misleading
I guess it's a bit like that thing about how
You're not allowed to be called that in America
Because they don't help your digestion
Is that right?
But the champion thing
You should be allowed to call your thing
Like awesome pill
Even if it's not, right?
You would have been a quack in the 18th century
LOL
Roll up, roll up
Come and see Daniel Shriver's Pills of Mystery
Stick them up your bum
It'll make you flow like Diagra
LOL
You know the song WAP by Cardi B?
I've read
Reports about it in the Daily Telegraph
There was a
Republican who was going for Congress
This time called James P. Brady
Who said that every time he heard the song
It made him want to pour holy water into his ears
LOL
What's wrong with this song WAP?
It sounds so wet-ass pussy
And it's about
It's about
It's an extremely feminist song
Feminist song about
Women taking charge of their sexuality
I've just said that's disgusting
James, so that's going to sound really bad now
And holy water will only make things wetter
What you need is a holy towel
LOL
Some holy kitchen roll perhaps
LOL
She credits Popeye with saving her life
Who, olive oil?
Yes, that's not who we're talking about
Oh, down on Dolly Parton
No, she credits Popeye
Popeye the dog with saving her life
Oh, Popeye the dog, of course
Popeye the dog
This was
It was in the 1980s where she fell in love with someone
I think didn't have any physical relationship
But she kind of, you know, she was married
But it's a long time, she fancied someone else
It was upset when he didn't fancy her
And she looked at her revolver
And it's weird because Dolly Parton is such
A bubbly, cheerful person
But for a moment, she looked at her
The little gun she keeps in her bedside table
And she thought about
She thought about killing herself
And then she said she heard the
Little tap tap tap of Popeye the dog's feet
Coming up the stairs
And she took it as a message from God
In fact, she told the Times in an interview
Well, you know, God is
Dog backwards, so I took it as
A message from him
Dogs are God's little
Little pockets of friendship he sends our way
And it snapped her out of it
Wow, wow, wow
And one thing, physically
That we don't know about Dolly
Which is
What her arms are like
So she always
Despite wearing, spending, you know, 50 years
Wearing very tight or very revealing costumes
In lots of ways, she's always got sleeves
She's always got very long sleeves on
And there is a conspiracy theory
And even saying that, I've talked about way too much
There is a slight, tiny subsection
Of fan belief
That she's absolutely covered in
Crazy tattoos
From wrist to shoulder
And it's possible
She's been asked about it
And she's denied
In fact, she's quite a clever denial
Where she only actually denied that she has
Snake tattoos
So we know her arms are not covered in snake tattoos
But they might be
There might be all sorts of other tattoos on her
We don't know
So many others
I've just googled Dolly Parton
I can see her arms
Her arms are here
She may have got the tattoos
After she did the Playboy cover
Recently she was
I have to say, I've now done what Dan's done
And maybe it's our different search preferences
But I can't see any naked arms
In any of these pictures
All heads of naked arms
There we go
But in Dolly Parton Playboy
She's asked to do again
For her 75th birthday
I think it's happened for her
That she's back on the cover
But she was a Playboy model
And her arms are right
I've just googled Dolly Parton's arms
And there are a few
Definitely a few images relatively recent
Alright guys
We don't have to just
There is such a thing as arm makeup
Can I remind you?
And I don't like us just
Google image searching
It's not a weak fact about Dolly Parton's arms
I'm more amazed by the fact
That there's such a thing as arm makeup
Please don't google
Whether or not arm makeup exists
Is there a such thing
Is arm makeup
Definitely is
They do it for movies all the time
Yeah, but you wouldn't sell arm makeup
In a separate section of the shop to leg makeup
Is leg makeup a thing?
I'm not saying leg makeup is a thing
I'm being
Oh no, I'm being
I'm being corrected in real time
And Dan it feels horrible
You get used to it though
You eventually learn to love it
300 more episodes of it Andy
And you'll have tough enough
Here's a fun thing
About sunglasses and tanning
There is a theory
That if you don't wear sunglasses
You can get a tan
You're wearing suntan lotion
And you're wearing clothes
So there's a theory
That just exposing your eyes to light
That will help you tan
And this is based on an experiment in mice
So I don't think
An equivalent has been done on humans as far as I know
I can tell if a mouse is
Tanned
You just shave it, Andy
So this was
An experiment in 2000
And the scientists
Are involved
They dressed mice
In tiny suits of aluminium foil
Adorable
And they gave them holes for the eyes
So they had your armour
And then they had normal mice
And they exposed both sets of mice
To UV light for a year
And then they looked at their skin
And it turned out that both sets of mice
Even the ones which have been wearing suits of armour
All year
Had similar amounts of melanin in their skin
So it was the colour of the eyes
That was the thing which was giving them the melanin
Does that also, if you take that in the other direction
If you go sunbathing with your eyes closed
Then you won't get a tan
People have suggested that
No, people think
Well, because it's online
I think probably off the back of this experiment
People think that if you wear sunglasses
Then your body will be tricked into thinking that
It's not sunny and so it will not produce melanin
And so you'll get burned really badly
And
It's weird, no one's properly debunked this yet
But there was a molecular biologist
Who has asked this
Who said that it is not your eyes
At least in humans
That trigger the hormone response
And the pineal gland which may produce melanin
Is your skin
So it definitely doesn't happen in humans
In mice, clearly
Different setup going on
But wearing sunglasses
Is not a substitute
Or a counter-action of
Green
I love just jumping back to Andy's description
Quickly of the mice
It's such a fine line, isn't it, between
What you would say is animal cruelty
In the kind of way you tell a story
A lot of people would be like, and for a year
They'd dress them up in tin foil, these poor mice
But Andy's sort of going
They look like cool little knights
They look, they had a fun time
You're the kind of guy, Andy
They would hire for movies
Just so they can say no animals were hard
During the making of this movie
Except the whale of a time in the making of this movie
Except the whales
Who were terribly mistreated
I like this one
I found one drug that's called
Anakinra
Which is a balm that you put on your neck
If you've just had it knocked off by a train
It's actually for arthritis
Oh, it's a real thing
Anakinra
She never lived to experience arthritis
I found out a nice term
This is just a bit of drug industry slang
And it's when a drug is no more effective
Than a placebo
And the term for that is
Crossing the futility boundary
Because literally the drug is completely pointless
It doesn't do any better than a placebo drug
So, yeah, you've crossed the futility boundary
So you can use that in day-to-day life now
Hopefully we're not, we can't buy
Many of these drugs, right?
Surely they're not being approved
Oh, I just mean in day-to-day life
You can say in your own activities
I've really crossed the futility boundary
On this, whatever, activity
Broaden out
If you're watching a TV series in your three seasons in
You're still not enjoying it
Do you think we've crossed the futility boundary
Of this section of the podcast?
I think the podcast in general some years ago
The text of the theme
The text in the UK charts in 1992
And Andrew Lloyd Webber
Was the man behind it
I bought it, I remember
Andrew Lloyd Webber
Composed the tune
No, he remixed it, didn't he?
It's a Russian folk song
It's by Nikolai Nekrasov
You speak Russian, James
Can you give us a little excerpt possibly?
Just because I did it
Off my curly run
I'll try
So he goes
Nice one, mate
So Andrew Lloyd Webber then took
That very well-known traditional tune
And passed it off as his own
Sounds very unlike him
Oh my goodness
That's just a little
Slam from having listened to too many
Lloyd Webber soundtracks over the years
Wow
Also rendering this podcast completely
Legally unstable
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