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Episode Date: January 10, 2015Episode 42 - Dan, James, Andy and Anna discuss Kickstarter non-starters, gluey geckos, blue-breasted women and green-faced writers. ...
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Hello, and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast coming
to you from the QI offices in Covent Garden.
My name is Dan Treiber, I'm sitting with the three regular elves, it's Andy Murray, James
Harkin, and Anna Chazinski, and once again, we have gathered around the microphones with
our four favorite facts from the last seven days, and in no particular order, here we
go.
Starting with you, Chazinski.
My fact this week is that Franz Kafka once convinced his entire family that Einstein's
theory of relativity was going to cure his tuberculosis.
All right, how was that going to work?
It's a good question, I can't exactly tell you, but I can tell you how it was claimed
it was going to work.
I'm not sure I understand it, but essentially, the plan was that you would take a cruise according
to this spoof article that he sent to his family, you'd take a cruise heading east in
the direction of the Earth's rotation, and this would enlarge your body, and that would
close the cavities in your lungs that were causing these problems, and by enlarging your
body and gaining weight by taking this easterly cruise, then you'd be cured, and he actually
said that there was a company in Prague that was fitting out hospital ships specifically
for this purpose.
Unfortunately, I think the holes would get bigger as well.
That is one of the many flaws in the claim.
Is it in Superman where he flies around the world and slows down the rotation?
No, he turns it backwards, he spins the world backwards, which reverses time, which stops
his from Lois Lane, from dying in a car crash.
I don't think that would work either, actually.
But wouldn't it also turn back the thing he had just saved, because he saved the world
first, and then he has to turn the Earth backwards to save the girl, but it would also undo his
own saving of the world in the first one, so he'd be in exactly the...
What we're saying is that...
What we're saying is that it's not science.
I've wondered if when you sail back westward, is that going to, I mean, is your TB going
to return?
Do you then have to stay in China?
Does everyone with TB have to end up in China?
I think if you keep travelling east, you're alright.
Okay, you have to keep going forever and ever.
Do we know their reaction, the family's reaction, when you receive them as a joke?
They were really devastated, yeah.
That's not usually how good jokes end, actually.
It's how good prads are jokes always, and someone being very upset, joke fail.
But Kafka was amazing, wasn't he?
Kafka is the most hilarious character.
He wrote letters obsessively all the time, which is great.
So we've got this, and I think as most people know, he hardly had anything published in
his life.
I think he published 450 pages of work in his life, and on his deathbed...
Metamorphosis was, wasn't it?
Yeah, Metamorphosis was.
A few other stories.
A few stories.
The trial wasn't, and then on his death, he said to his publisher, wrote him that famous
letter saying, make sure you burn everything I've written.
And obviously, instead of doing that, it was all published.
Yeah, so his publisher was called Max Brod.
Yeah.
And Max Brod kept all of his papers, and then was in a really weird sort of menage-Ã -toire
relationship with a woman called Esther Hoffa and her husband Otto.
And when he died, he gave all of his, all of Kafka's papers to Esther Hoffa, who then
gave them to her daughter.
And her daughter now lives in an apartment full of cats with all of Kafka's papers in
the corner.
And basically, they seem, they think they're all going to just get demolished by cat pee.
Wow.
And we'll never be able to read them.
So everyone wants to get these Kafka papers so that we can read these amazing stories.
And she's like, no, they're mine.
My cats are going to pee on them.
And there's nothing to go about it.
Is that right?
Because I think the British Library or maybe the Bodleian keeps claiming that they actually
have the right to them.
And there's some ambiguity in what Kafka said, what Brod said they should.
Yeah.
And everyone also keeps trying to get rid of the cats.
And so they keep going in the council and saying, no, we're going to take these cats.
And every time they take like 20 cats away, another 20 arrived.
And then they just keep coming.
Just like an ultimate cat.
Maybe they just love Kafka.
That's the Kafka cat-esque.
Never mind.
So the whole burning all of your work, post your death.
Why?
I think because, so it's actually estimated that he burned 90% of what he wrote during
his life, Kafka.
So we only have 10% of what he wrote, but he was a real perfectionist and he hazed himself.
He was really self-loathing.
So I think he thought that nothing that he ever wrote was good enough.
And I mean, I guess maybe some of it's quite revealing.
Like he wrote this letter to his father.
He went on holiday for two weeks intending to write.
And he ended up spending the entire two weeks writing a letter to his father, this incredibly
long letter about everything his father had done wrong.
And it was all, his father sounds like a terrible person.
So it was accusing him of say, of doing stuff like his father would say, no one's allowed
to speak at the table.
The table is for eating, but his father would incessantly speak at the table.
No one's allowed to swear, but his father had the foulest mouth of anyone he knew.
He was terrified of his father.
And he wrote him, they spent two weeks writing this letter that he never sent him.
Another letter that he wrote that I quite like is he wrote a 16 page letter asking for
a promotion when he worked at the workers accident and insurance company.
The thing about his father and the dinner table, Kafka liked to have the diet called
Fletcherism.
You know that one?
So that's where you just keep chewing and chewing and chewing.
Chew every mouthful a hundred times.
Yeah.
Until it goes.
Yeah.
Until, until basically there's nothing left in your mouth and it all turns into mush and
you can spoil it.
What's the point of doing that?
By having larger things in your body, it makes you put a lot of weight.
Whereas if you chew it all, it makes it go through your body.
Yeah.
Because it'll be more broken down, won't it, by your saliva.
So they used to, for instance, they used to have dinner parties like Fletcherism dinner
parties where they would have a timer, so everyone would have a mouthful and they would
have like a one minute timer and everyone would chew, chew, chew, chew and then they'd
be like ding.
Okay.
Next mouthful.
And then you do that.
Wow.
Come to parties.
7pm on the 4th.
Carriages.
9pm on the 12th.
Fletcher was really cool actually.
He said, he thought that by doing his particular style of diet that you would only defecate
once every two weeks.
And he said that it would smell like warm biscuits and also apparently carried around a sample
of his own feces around to illustrate the wonder.
Wow.
Biscuits anybody?
That's true.
Hopefully he didn't carry it in a biscuit tin.
He also got really into Muller's, he was into fads because he was really self-conscious
about his weight.
He was afraid of his own reflection because he thought he hated the fact that he was
so ugly, but he actually wasn't.
But he got really into Muller's exercise fad which was, I think probably the first real
big exercise fad, this guy called Muller telling you the exercise you should do every day.
It was like a naked exercise.
That was the naked exercising.
So he always appeared in a loincloth and said people should just wear this little and he
would go skiing in St. Merritt's and a loincloth and stuff and people were a bit skeptical
about how beneficial this was to anyone's health.
But he got very, he was devoted to that.
That's fantastic.
I was looking into sort of just famous authors and their quirky ways of writing.
So Kafka obviously just going from massively long letters.
It's really enjoyable to find out that everyone doesn't find writing as easy as you assume
that they did.
Some of the biggest authors.
So Victor Hugo, he was so bad at writing and concentrating and needing to be in the, you
know, you always have that, oh, I need to get out of the room and do something more
important.
He used to lock away all of his clothes to avoid temptation of going outside.
Oh, wow.
Yes.
He often had a chauffeur who he'd give the clothes to and say, no account.
Give me these clothes until I've done my work.
And then he did.
He did eventually start wearing a shawl.
I think people would walk in and be like, was there a Greek writer who shaved half
of his head?
And the idea was that he would be too embarrassed to go out in public and so he would stay in
and write.
Can't remember who that was.
Wow.
Wow.
It's a nice idea.
These are all universally bad ideas.
Yeah.
That's the interesting thing for these great writers.
Yeah.
Because if you can't resist the temptation, you end up wandering the streets stark naked
with half the head of hair and you're in an asylum.
But the half the head of hair is okay because if you were desperate enough, you could just
make sure that you were facing one direction wherever you went as long as you kept that
spot.
No one would know.
There's a lot of non-writing practices.
Yeah.
I didn't know this about T.S.
Eliot, who similarly to Kafka left instruct, he didn't want his life written by anyone.
He left instructions.
There should be no official biography of him.
And I think Peter Ackroyd's just written one, but he basically wasn't allowed access
to any of T.S.
Eliot's private letters or any of his life.
So it's quite difficult.
He's made it up.
Yeah.
I think he just made it all up.
So maybe this is made up.
But no, T.S.
Eliot used to put very pale green makeup on his face and nobody knows why.
He wore very pale green makeup.
It looked like a corpse, although I don't know why he'd want to do that.
Maybe it was just a fashion thing.
T.S.
Eliot, who's he?
The green-faced guy.
Maybe.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was just always insanely jealous.
Maybe it was back.
Oh, yeah.
Just constantly.
What are his poems like?
I haven't read it.
Are they just like, she's with him again?
Yeah.
Do you see the green cat in Bulgaria this week who's in the news?
No.
Yeah.
There's a green cat in Bulgaria.
It's like bright green and everyone's like, whoa, how on earth could it be a bright green
cat?
Is it like some kind of science experiment gone wrong or something?
But apparently it likes sleeping in a tub of green paint.
How long did it take them to work that out?
Not so long.
Yeah, okay.
Victor Hugo.
Yeah.
I think this is right.
Kept a detail, an extremely detailed diary of all the women he slept with.
Did he?
Yeah.
But it was extremely detailed.
It was like a spreadsheet with lots of different columns and lots of different.
That's kind of a woman's worst nightmare.
That's like the curator at the Natural History Museum.
He does that, doesn't he?
Have we spoken about it?
No.
Did we talk about this on the podcast?
He used to collect after every sexual conquest a single hair of pubic hair.
What?
Yeah.
After you died.
So we should specify this is not the current curator at the Natural History Museum.
No, no, no.
You just said the curator, Dan.
I just want to avoid any potential legal.
No, no, I meant the one that we've spoken about before.
He was a curator.
I can't remember his name.
He used to collect just one sprig.
I seem to remember sprig of pubic hair being the word used.
And he would file them in colour and date and he did a proper curator's job on it.
So they were going through all his files after he died and they came across this kind of collection of pubic hair.
Can you visit that at the Natural History Museum now?
It's not on display at the moment.
It's a real shame.
It should be though, yeah.
It should.
That's very distressing.
Other writers in their weird writing habits, there was a writer who was a huge American novelist
that sort of early 1900s, Thomas Clayton Wolf, who always used to write on a refrigerator
because he was so tall, which just seems like he's rubbing in people's faces.
What was the little magnet letters?
Yeah.
It took him a long time to get a novel out though.
Imagine sending it to the publishers as well.
There are 300 fridges outside.
Yeah.
Kids rearranging it.
This novel just seems to say bum bum wee.
Just going back to Kafka, if we can.
Yes.
So there was a biography of Kafka written a couple of years ago by a guy called James Hawes
and he caused controversy because he wanted to talk about the pornography that Kafka had
and apparently he was saying that Kafka was into hardcore porn, including images of hedgehog-style creatures performing fallatio.
Hedgehog-style creatures.
Yeah.
So like creatures that look a bit like a hedgehog, but like porcupines maybe.
Oh, okay.
We'll just say porcupines.
I think they're like half human, half hedgehog things.
So he was a furry.
Isn't that what a furry is?
Yeah.
Kind of.
I'm not sure he dressed up as them.
Okay.
But then the German scholars then said, well, this is obviously rubbish.
This author in Britain is just a prude and these hedgehog kind of things are just not pornography at all.
They're just high art.
Oh, yeah.
And he said that comparing those illustrations to hardcore porn is like comparing a poem by
Henrik Heiner with an advertising slogan for McDonald's.
So basically this isn't hardcore.
You should see our hardcore.
Yeah.
Coming to the back room.
I'll show you something.
Yeah.
Since we're on the subject, I was reading a book about the history of London and sort of London and vice basically.
And it had titles for 19th century pornography, which were quite something.
So the spree-ish spouter or flash cove's slap up reciter.
That is a good title.
That is very good.
You know, the Jolly Companion and the story of a dildo.
It sounds like it could almost be a girl's name.
You'd see it on the shelf.
We think, ah, they're made in a dildo.
Well, it might have been the story of a dildo as in the story of Alan dildo.
Yeah.
Exactly.
So I spoke about on a previous podcast just on this subject about Monster Erotica.
You guys remember?
So it's an amazing...
I spent the weekend looking more into it.
I've downloaded a number.
But the interesting thing was, they're all on kid though.
You could get them.
There's this whole world of Monster Erotica.
And you would figure who the hell's reading this.
No one's reading this.
Casca's reading it.
Casca's reading it.
That's who he was reading.
It turns out some of the authors are making up to $30,000 a month.
No.
If this is an advert in a sidebar saying how I earn $30,000 a month working from home.
That's... it's a con.
Okay.
Clearly the whole $30,000 is coming out of Dan's bank account.
Um, Kafka used to laugh uncontrollably at his own jokes.
Which is weird.
Nothing wrong with that.
Indeed.
Another thing which I think he would have found funny,
because he had already morbid sense of humour,
was the spoof letter to his family convincing him he wasn't going to die.
Which I don't know if I mentioned this but he did die of TB quite young.
Shortly after sending them that spoof article.
Um, was that while he was writing The Hunger Artist,
which was a story about starvation,
he was writing that as he was dying of TB,
and during the writing of that about someone who can't eat,
his throat closed up and he stopped being able to eat anything.
So it's sort of like his body was trying to give him the visceral experience
of what he was writing about.
Well, I used, my first job was interviewing women with acid reflux
for a market research company.
And after four days of doing that, my boss and I,
both doing the same interviews,
we both got the symptoms of acid reflux on the same night.
Coincidence or no?
One more thing about letters.
Yep.
Um, Gordon Brown apparently liked to write letters to people in the X Factor.
What?
And he, he wrote basically for a few years while,
I think it was while he was Prime Minister,
he would write to people and say,
Oh, I thought you were very good or I thought,
I remember this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He wrote to one guy, Daniel Evans,
a 38 year old swimming pool cleaner,
and said, on a personal note,
can I say that the next time Simon says you are only supported by the over 60s,
you can tell him I disagree.
He was 57 when he wrote that.
Wow.
Thanks Gordon, really helping my case.
Yeah.
Was he really big, like a massive fan?
Apparently.
No, it sounds like some kind of sad political stunt that his peer,
stupid PR advisors told him to do along with smiling like a maniac
in order to ingratiate himself with people.
Doesn't it?
Yeah.
I'd like to think it was real.
Oh, I've got, I've got one more thing about the writing process.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, uh, there's a,
an inventor who James, it turns out, has met,
uh, co-doctor Yoshiro Nakumatsu,
which is,
Yep.
Yep.
So you've met him.
He, okay.
He's been doing some of the most prolific inventions according to him, James.
He claims to be the most prolific inventor of all time.
Yeah.
He's patented the floppy disk.
Uh, he had many of his greatest ideas,
uh, when he was close to drowning.
Right.
And when you say many, it means,
Yeah.
Obviously, this is a guy's, shouldn't be in a pool.
And so basically he, uh,
He also invented scuba apparatus.
Yeah.
Arm bands.
So he realized that, uh, in order to have good ideas,
or at least what works for him is that he needs to be
at the bottom of a pool simulating the idea that he's about to drown.
And he had developed a, one of his inventions, an underwater notepad.
Uh, so he'd start jotting ideas down as he was on the brink of death
and then swim back to the surface and come out and go,
floppy disk.
Boris.
Okay.
Time for fact number two.
And that is Andrew Hunter Murray.
My fact this week is that dead geckos still stick to walls.
It's just pleasing.
Isn't it?
Just a nice fact.
Um, and this was tested by a team of scientists who stuck a gecko.
What?
They didn't stick a gecko on a wall.
They just let it climb up one.
And then killed it.
And then killed it.
Did they really?
That's how they did it.
Yeah.
It was, um, it was induced death rather than waiting for the gecko
to die of natural causes,
which would to be fair have slowed the experiment down a great deal.
Um, so it's, it's really interesting.
How come you don't see loads of dead geckos on the walls all the time
and they're not filling up all the walls?
You do.
Every lizard wallpaper you see.
That's actually real.
Lizard wallpapers.
Yeah.
You know, yeah.
Very fashionable.
Um, well, it lasts not forever.
It lasts until a while after they die,
at least half an hour after they die.
They can still be there.
Good question.
You know how we've been,
because Andre Geim, uh, who is a professor,
he, um, he came up with, uh, the idea.
Nobel Prize winner.
Yeah.
Nobel Prize winner for graphene.
Uh, going to change the world.
He does these Friday night experiments.
One of the things that he's invented in which he's trying to make better
is a glove which acts like a gecko.
It's called, um, geckotape, I believe.
You can climb up a wall.
The only issue that they have with it is that unlike a gecko,
it kind of the, the little hairs,
which is what they are using.
So spider hairs and gecko hairs,
that's the kind of technology that they're trying to harness.
Uh, it clogs up.
And so you start slipping and you start going down.
My question is, get a big enough gecko.
Why can't you create a glove where a live gecko
is on the actual end of the glove
and you climb a wall with four geckos,
with four geckos attached to your hands and your feet?
There's no reason.
There's no reason at all.
Has anyone tried?
Yeah, there are ethical reasons, definitely.
Oh, hang on.
They're, they're making them climb walls
and killing them while they're there.
We don't know.
We're already in dubious territory.
That's for scientific purposes, not spider man purposes.
This would help.
This would be for military.
All right.
We should say why, how they can do it in the first place.
So, um, it's very, very clever.
Every square millimeter of a gecko's foot contains
14,000 little hair like structures.
Um, and as they climb up the wall,
they basically pushed these into contact with the wall
and they use something called the van der Waals force,
which is so cool.
It basically disrupts the balance of electrons
and protons in atoms.
So the hair, as it's pushed towards the wall,
it pushes all the electrons of the first atom of the wall
to one end, right?
So it pushes them to the other end.
So that atom is next to the one next to it
and it repels all the electrons to the other one
because like forces repel.
That means that you've got an atom, uh,
with all electrons at one end
and an atom with all protons at one end
and they then are attracted to each other
and stick together.
Yeah.
That in microcosm is how the gecko climbs up walls.
Wow.
And they can sport 20 times their own weight.
I think they inspire,
they've inspired a kind of superglue the way it works.
They've designed superglue based on that.
Yeah.
There's another, there is a type of superglue
that's based on that
and the thing that muscles use.
So muscles will attach to rocks
using a kind of like cement
and they've mixed that kind of cement technology
with the van der Waals technology of the geckos
and they've got a new adhesive called,
it's called gecko or something like that,
which is like supposed to be a super duper amazing.
Yeah.
But also works underwater.
So it could be used for, you know, like elastoplasts
that won't go fall off in the bath and stuff like that.
That would be very handy.
That would be really useful.
Yeah.
I can't believe they haven't got on that yet.
But I don't think the elastoplasts industry would allow it.
No.
They make their money from people constantly losing them
in the bath if you put a new one on.
So it's like a conspiracy theory.
Yeah.
You're going up against big plaster there.
Yeah.
I wonder if there's a technology
that we've not yet harnessed in the,
you know when you lick icicle
and you tie the sticks to it.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a very good sticky little thing
that we haven't really harnessed.
Do you think it's like 20 times your own weight?
Do you think you could hang off?
Have you seen Dumb and Dumber when they're trying to?
I have, yeah.
But I don't know if that,
they did a lot of scientific research.
There's about five people trying to pull
Jeff Daniels tongue off that bar.
That's like it's really cold outside today.
Yeah.
That wall is very cold.
Put your tongue in it.
We'll kill you and we'll see if you still stick to that.
Good work.
On geckos, there was, did you guys remember
that woman earlier on this year who claimed
that she'd given birth to a gecko?
Oh yes, yeah.
In Indonesia.
And her and a midwife both reported it.
She thought she was going to give birth to a child
and when it came out turned out that it was a lizard
coated in mucous and blood apparently slithered
out of the birth canal.
And I don't know why the midwife had to help with that.
Because it was stuck.
It seems to be quite easy.
Oh yeah, of course.
Those damned adhesive feet.
But then they became the target of this witch hunt
in Indonesia because she was accused of witchcraft.
That's really a witch hunt.
Yeah.
So why would you make that hoax?
Why would you pretend you'd give birth to a lizard?
It must be like the Kafka joke.
She thought this is going to go down a tree
and then got revealed.
Actually that's kind of backfired.
Wow.
Geckos lick their own eyes to keep them.
They can't blink.
So they just go around licking their own eyes.
Oh yeah.
Wait, isn't it that they don't have eyelids?
There's a clear film over their eyes,
but they don't have movable eyelids, I believe.
Is that right?
You have three eyelids, Dan.
I've always thought you looked a bit weird.
What do you mean?
Three eyelids on each eye.
Do I?
So the one that goes down, the one goes up,
and you have another little one.
There's a little kind of flap of pink
in the corner of your eye,
and that is what used to be your third eyelid,
and now it's only a little tiny flap.
That's very coincidental,
because Geckos have three eyes.
Do they?
They have a third eye,
and they have a little light-sensing...
Oh, a pineal one.
Yeah, a pineal eye.
I'm trying to think of how to describe it, really.
What does pineal mean?
Okay, so basically it is...
they are cells which will...
they will sense light,
and they're outgross of the pineal gland,
which is in the top of your head.
I think the idea is
that they can then sense the change in light above them,
so if any kind of predators come from above,
then they'll be able to sense them.
I think that's right.
Yeah, and they've done tests on people,
and I don't think this is a pineal thing,
but where completely blind people can tell
whether a light is on or not,
and people who are...
Did they hear someone click the switch?
No.
There's a type of gecko called the Moorish Gecko,
and they change...
They are delicious.
They change colour if you put them on a surface,
but unlike a chameleon,
they change colour to be the same colour as a surface.
Are they genuinely camouflaged themselves?
Yeah, exactly.
And these geckos,
where you put them on a yellow surface,
they'll turn yellow,
but if you blindfold them,
they'll still turn yellow,
because it's not their eyes that are getting their senses.
It's some kind of light senses in their skin
that are doing it.
That sounds amazing.
So if you put the blindfold around their kind of stomachs,
then they won't be able to see it
and they won't be able to change.
That's not a blindfold though, is it?
It's a...
Stomach fold.
Stomach fold, yeah.
Can they do patterns?
Can you put them on a picture of Marilyn Monroe
and have, like, that appear on a gecko?
Very sexy gecko, yeah.
You're fulfilling a long-standing fantasy of dance here,
which has a gecko that looks like Marilyn Monroe.
Yeah.
It's a monster.
Very much the Kafka of the office.
There was a gecko discovered in 1877,
a British lieutenant colonel called R. H. Bedham
found it in India, and then it disappeared,
and we just rediscovered it 135 years later.
We stumbled back upon it.
Same one.
Poor ground gecko.
Very old, very bored.
Haven't had any company for a long time.
I miss the colonel.
Okay, can I tell you something about adhesion?
Yeah, I think you will like.
Okay, this is in 2008,
a campaigner against a third runway at Heathrow
attempted to glue himself to Gordon Brown
at a Downing Street reception.
He's called Danglass.
That'd be terrible because you'd have to spend all Saturday night
watching X Factor.
So he was about to receive an award from the Prime Minister
for his campaigning work,
and then he stuck out his super-glued hand
and touched the Prime Minister's sleeve,
and Downing Street later said
there was no stickiness of any significance.
But the amazing thing is he'd smuggled this in in his pants,
and he said afterwards,
I just glued myself to him,
and after 20 seconds he tore my hand off.
It really hurt.
He tore his hand off?
Hey, he's a tough man.
Wow, Gordon Brown.
He had to give a couple of tugs before it came away.
He was just grinning about it.
He didn't seem to take me seriously.
And then later on,
he was allowed to stay at number 10 for 40 minutes
after this happened.
Wow.
And when he left the building,
I'm quoting from the BBC article about it here,
he tried to glue himself to the gates of Downing Street
but was prevented from doing so by a police officer.
I didn't have much glue left by that point, he said.
Okay, time for fact number three,
and that is James.
Okay, my fact this week is that the active ingredient
in the first ever homeopathy treatment
was the blood of Thomas Beckett.
Wow.
So this, basically when Thomas Beckett died,
he was basically a saint straight away as soon as he died,
and everyone thought he was great.
And they had his blood as a relic,
but they only had a small amount of his blood,
so the way that they could give it
to lots of different people was to put a tiny drop
in an enormous vat of water,
and then take bits of that water,
and give it to people,
and it supposedly would be able to cure everything.
Which as far as I'm concerned is pretty much homeopathy.
I agree.
And it's supposedly just a few years after he died,
from the time that they started doing it
to a few years after,
it's something like 703 miracles supposedly.
Yes, but that was over the whole,
I think it was over a 10-year period,
and in just one year, a couple of years later,
100,000 people visited the...
Oh, so it's quite a low hit rate.
It's quite a low hit rate,
but I found another report saying,
you know, you would drink the water,
this homeopathic water that James has mentioned,
and also there were cases were reported
in which it was used for the magical detection of thieves,
and even for extinguishing fires,
which is the same as you.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a miracle.
The holy water put out this fire.
I was thirsty before, and now I am not thirsty.
I was dirty before.
I was too hot before this magical substance.
Can I tell you about these just really quickly,
about those monks?
Yeah, please.
So one of them was called William of Canterbury,
of the two monks who was writing down these things.
Because this was in Canterbury.
That's where he died, right?
Right, yeah.
That's where he was buried anyway.
Because he was the Archbishop,
and he was killed.
And that's part of Canterbury Tales as well.
He is the journey.
Oh, to visit.
The end point is Thomas A. Beckett.
Right.
Thomas A. Beckett, not A. Beckett, right?
That is a myth.
Thomas A. Beckett is a later addition.
He never really had the ah.
It was the same with A. Dildo.
If he was on Twitter these days,
he would be at Thomas Beckett.
Yep.
I always feel sorry for Henry II in the Thomas Beckett incident,
because he said, didn't he famously,
well, people claim that he said,
will no one rid me of this turbulent priest,
or some other phrase like that?
And that is the kind of thing you say when you're slightly
pissed off with somebody,
and what you're not asking your friends to do,
is actually go and brutally murder them.
I wonder if they came back and were like,
well, we did it.
He was like, you did what?
You did what?
Yeah.
Oh, my God, guys.
Simon Sharma reckons that that's not the right phrase.
No, I know.
That's a really neat phrase.
And the biographer at the time,
Edward Grimm, wrote in Latin,
and the translation is,
what miserable drones and traitors have I nourished
and brought up in my household,
who let their Lord be treated with such shameful contempt
by a lone-born cleric,
which is not catchy.
But actually, there's no way of,
he's not saying they're going to kill him, is he?
No.
Although he is,
No, he's even more ambiguous.
But he is actively saying that his,
like the people who worked for him
have a responsibility to go and seek vengeance.
Isn't he in that quote?
That's true.
He's saying, you're crap because you're lessing
his cleric look all over me.
Exactly.
And I bet they got told off for doing it.
It's one of those bosses, just never happy.
One of them had to go and fight another crusade
for 14 years to say sorry.
Really?
Just to say sorry?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Well, Henry was, I think,
whipped by 80 monks.
Yeah, well, he asked for that, didn't he?
As an M, really?
He requested it,
and other than he was asking for it.
Yeah, he was like,
he wanted to be penitent,
so he asked to be whipped by these monks.
Wow.
And they just said,
sure, that's not weird.
We'll do it.
It was more common at the time
to be request for monks to whip you.
You make it sound weird now.
One thing,
I read a really peculiar thing about him,
peculiar to me,
but then clearly I find things like
being whipped by 80 monks peculiar.
Maybe this is just a very normal thing.
You're just weird, Dan.
I read that on his death,
the monks at Canterbury discovered
that he wore a hair shirt,
and it was infested with lice.
These were under his vestments.
What's a hair shirt?
That is a special shirt made of very coarse animal hair
that you put on under your normal clothes,
and it scourges and irritates you,
to keep you suffering.
Oh, so it wasn't like a nice comfort thing.
No, it was the opposite.
It was the opposite.
What do you wear when you go to be whipped by 80 monks?
Thomas Beckett was voted the second worst Britain
of the last thousand years
in a poll by BBC History Magazine.
Who came first?
Jack the Ripper.
Wow, so that's quite harsh,
considering that he wasn't really a murderer.
Everyone loved him, as well.
Yeah, he wasn't a murderer.
There are lots of other murderers.
I'm surprised by Jack the Ripper.
What?
I'm surprised by Jack the Ripper,
because I did the worst Britain.
The worst of all time?
Of all time?
Who would you go for?
I don't know, but there aren't.
There's a theory he got his name Beckett
from Beck, which means beak,
because he had quite a prominent nose,
and that was maybe a family trait,
and that's where his family got the surname from.
Really?
That's what humanises him a bit, Thomas Beakey.
When he was killed, he'd just got back from a six-year...
I was going to say a six-year holiday.
He'd actually been exiled in fearing his life,
but still...
That's how he was marketing it to his friends.
So he was away for six years
because he was in fear of his life?
Yeah, he was.
He was right.
When he literally arrived back, he was killed.
He came back under an amnesty,
because he had had a huge power struggle with the king,
and then he got back under an agreement,
and it was all going to be fine,
and then he started excommunicating a load of people
who he'd specifically agreed he wouldn't,
or the king had asked him not to.
So that was the reason that he was killed.
Get back on your word.
On homeopathy, the guy who came up with it,
and called it homeopathy,
and came with the original theory for it,
who was Hanuman,
he thought that coffee was the thing that caused...
He went through a phase of the thing that coffee caused
huge numbers of diseases,
and he said the thing that was wrong with coffee,
and the reason you know it's bad,
is because coffee drinking makes everything pleasurable,
and you know that in life you're supposed to suffer,
as well as experience pleasure,
and you sort of get drunk on coffee,
and you enjoy everything too much,
and that's not how it's supposed to be.
So he says even in the corporal functions,
which in a natural state of health
are accompanied by rude and almost painful sensations,
now operate with an astonishing facility,
and even with a species of pleasure.
What is he referring to when he talks about corporal?
It sounds a lot like he's referring to the fact
that you've suddenly got chronic diarrhea
as soon as you have a coffee,
and it sounds to me like he was just a constipated man.
Sounds like he's got IBS.
Yeah, it does, doesn't it?
Accompanied by rude and painful sensations.
Yeah, it's IBS.
Yeah, good diagnosis.
So George VI received homeopathic treatment
when he was trying to get his speech right.
So in the King's speech he had that,
but it wasn't in the movie.
So what did he have?
What did they give him a ground-up word?
Diluted heavily.
Just a very short word.
Yeah.
With lots of silence.
It was a medicine called hypericum,
and he was so appreciative of it
that he named a racehorse after it.
Oh, so quite appreciative.
Didn't name a child after it.
King hypericum.
Probably best.
I saw it, I was looking on a forum about
just, I guess, these kind of miracle relics
that are out there,
and someone was asking an interesting question,
which is they used to,
these relics used to sort of perform
or give miracles in quite a sort of large volume
in the early days,
and the question was, as time passes,
do relics perform less miracles
just because like the gecko on the wall
after half an hour it'll fall off?
Has it got a period of...
Like a mastery running out.
Exactly.
Does it have the ability to do it for so long?
And everyone obviously said no on the forum,
but yeah, I just like that as a question.
Do they run out of steam?
Yeah.
Well, because you just, I love,
this is my favorite thing about this part of histories
with these kind of relics,
like it does sound like everyone was a superhero back then,
and we've lost the ability to be superheroes.
I found a thing that James posted on QI,
the forums, years ago.
I found it this week, but this is really funny.
So this is someone's superpower from back in the day.
The Times reported that Sonora Anna Morano,
the luminous woman of Pirano,
she suffered from asthma,
and as a result of the asthma,
emitted a blue glow from her breasts as she slept.
Many doctors came to witness the phenomenon.
Of course they did, yeah.
But apparently, I'm not sure if there's ever an answer
to why she had luminous...
Is that a superpower?
Are we counting that as a superhero?
Well, I mean, you know...
What purpose is that, sir?
Luminous breast woman.
What if you're lost in the...
She paled up with tears earlier in his green face
that he'd go on to join a circus?
If that's the Times,
I guess that's not as old as I thought it was.
No, it's quite...
I remember that...
I don't remember it happening.
I wasn't posing as a doctor or anything.
No, but I remember reading about it.
I think I read it in 40 and Times, actually.
So it must have been only in the last 10 years.
I'm not sure how real it was.
Blue boobs.
Just saying.
Bloobs, for short.
The Bloober reel is after they finished filming a film,
superimposed blue breasts onto everyone.
OK, time for our final fact of the show,
and that is my fact,
and my fact this week is that
in 2013,
a group of people attempted to crowdfund
London's first ever UFO museum.
They needed a million dollars,
but unfortunately,
after 30 days of pushing and trying to raise money,
they only managed to get $370.
I mean, a million in 30 days is very ambitious,
but also, that is what...
A million dollars a day they managed to raise.
It's almost like the kind of people who are putting this together
have unrealistic ideas,
not based in reality.
Yeah, they only got four pledges,
really, from people,
and it felt like one of them was their mum.
It was like, you know, when you set up this thing,
and it's like, oh, please support my thing.
Your parents come in first.
But it looked really interesting.
What was going to be in the UFO museum?
Well, I think it was going to be UK-based UFO stuff,
but there is tons.
The biggest ever sighting of UFO,
like a big UFO incident, was in the UK.
Yeah, but I mean, get the actual saucer, did we?
We don't have the UFOs.
Is it just a lot of mad people telling anecdotes,
sort of stuck-in rooms in the museum, saying,
I still have this really scary thing in the sky?
Yeah.
What would be really great is that you go in,
and you don't see anything, and you come in,
and you go, we saw nothing in there,
and then they say, yeah, there's the men in black at the end
who wipe your memory.
That's a really cheap way of making a...
That's a brilliant idea.
So there is a...
There's not a UFO museum that I can find in existence,
but you know, I assume about...
Are there UFO museums all over the world?
There's one in Roswell.
Oh, the Roswell one.
The most famous.
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
What's in there?
It's all, I guess, all put like a dummy of an alien,
and that will become as famous as what could be the real alien,
because enough people have seen it.
Yeah, that's what they do.
So there's a cryptozoology museum in Maine,
and I think they just keep making models of made-up animals
and then saying, isn't this amazing?
This is what a yeti would look like if it was a thing.
But it does sound quite cool,
the International Cryptozoology Museum in Portland.
They've got thousands of exhibits
and bits that are claiming to be bits of Barnum's Fiji mermaid.
I kind of want to test you on whether you know
what all of these made-up words are.
Okay, so the...
I know the mermaid.
Yeah, the mermaid.
You can see a few of them at the British Museum.
So these are the...
This is one at the Harniman, I think.
Yeah, so these are the ones that...
There's a half monkey, half fish sewn together.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're just inside, on the right-hand side
of the British Museum.
Yeah.
I think we've talked about them before.
Yeah, I think we have.
We talked about them in relation to P.T. Barnum.
Yeah.
Who had a load of them.
One of his other tricks was he said,
I have a cherry-coloured cat in this bag.
And it was just sleeping in some cherry paint.
No, it was just a black cat.
And he said, some cherries are black.
That's quite good.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
I kissed a girl by the mermaid in the British Museum.
Sorry?
Just for me.
That's the worst Katy Perry song I've ever heard.
I kissed a girl by the mermaid.
It sounds rude.
You know that half monkey fish thing.
Why did you kiss her?
Just next to the mermaid.
The first date.
I don't know.
So, Diane, do you know what this is?
So this museum contains loads of hair samples
of like the Abominable Snowman and Orion Pendek
and Yowie.
It's not a single pew from each one.
I think it is.
And there's also a letter from the actor Jimmy Stewart,
who's one of my favourite actors.
So this disappoints me if it's true.
A letter from the actor Jimmy Stewart is on display
as he is linked to the Pang Bok Yeti Hand Mystery.
The Hand.
Yeah.
How is Jimmy Stewart linked to that?
There was a hand which supposedly belonged to a Yeti.
But yeah, he was very obsessed with Yetis
and he was able to actually get his hands on this hand.
On the hand.
Yeah.
There was a review of this museum.
The guy said, quite frankly, we have more creepy things
in my living room than they have in this museum.
And then he gave it five stars.
Another museum in America, the Cockroach Hall of Fame Museum,
which is in Plano, Texas.
This was a guy called Michael Bowden,
who was an exterminator.
And he has dead cockroaches dressed as celebrities.
Have you got any examples?
Yes.
Ross Perroche.
Oh my God.
And David Letterroche.
I think he's also got a Liberoche, hasn't he?
Oh yeah.
And it's in a little gold cape sitting at a tiny piano.
So this guy's experience with the Bazaar, I'm reading here,
began in the 1980s when he held a contest
to find the biggest cockroach in Dallas.
He later travelled the country, judging cockroach fashion contests
as a promotional stunt for an insecticide company.
Well, you wouldn't do it as anything else, would you?
Do it as a serious investigation?
I like the way that he's had that job,
and he's turned it into something awesome, like a museum.
I bet the insecticide company is annoyed.
He sort of went a bit off-piste.
That's very funny.
Daniel, I have a question for you.
What shape was the first ever flying saucer?
Ooh.
There's a clue in the word saucer.
So it was round like a saucer?
No.
It tricked you.
No, the word saucer, why it was called flying saucer,
is because it skipped across the sky like a saucer,
like if you were skimming a saucer.
That's why it got called that.
It was actually crescent shaped, like a boomerang.
Really?
Is that why we can't keep them?
Because they always go back to where they came from.
Oh, yeah.
Well, there aren't any UFOs in the museum.
So do we know anything about the people who started this?
Are they genuine believers in alien UFOs?
Yeah.
Well, I'll give you the basic blurb that they wrote.
Our team includes people of SoundMind,
who wanted to go to a UFO museum one day
close to home in Paris, London, and Berlin,
and realize that they had to travel thousands of miles
to visit such a place.
When you have to start off something
by saying, where are SoundMind?
Honestly, it's like...
I don't think SoundMind means they hear voices in their head.
We already have access to material from a former UFO museum,
but to open a new place today that would look modern,
one would need much more material and to purchase new equipment.
We've even found a few perfect locations to rent in London,
but there are many other issues to solve first.
We need your support to do more research,
produce more information boards, mannequins, videos,
pictures, computers, etc.
We truly believe this is a unique, exciting project
that would attract a lot of people,
and we need your help and support to make this become a reality.
That was their basic blurb.
No mention of what would be in there.
Have you heard of Kick Ended?
No.
It's a side project to Kickstarter,
which a man has set up,
which is all the projects on Kickstarter
which have made nothing.
And they include
the book So Long Constipation.
It's a toilet book.
Anyone who doesn't have two or more
easily passable bowel movements today
will benefit from reading So Long Constipation.
Have you seen those adverts for anti-constipation medicine,
which say instant overnight relief?
No.
It really doesn't sound like one thing.
You might want to clean your teeth in the morning.
Total immediate relief,
wherever you are.
Uncontrollable relief everywhere.
So Long Constipation didn't get a single pledge?
No, nothing.
Long Constipation didn't get a single pledge
is someone called Henrietta
needed to raise $6,000
to fund her comedy show
called Please Love Me.
Nobody.
Zero.
Another quite good idea
that I might have donated to
was The Little Eats.
Did you read that?
Which was a guy who has invented a food
that is dog food and human food.
Which, if you have a dog,
you can eat dog food, can't you?
Yeah, and dogs can eat human food.
Can you eat dog food without really hating it?
No, probably not.
It's probably not tasty, but I think you can eat it.
Didn't you work a thing about a supermarket?
It was a fact that I'm going to get the numbers wrong,
but it's something like
there is enough food in a supermarket
for a single person to stay alive
for 56 years,
and it's something like 67 years
if you're willing to eat dog food.
Yeah.
You could eat the dog food early on
because you don't want your last year
to be the worst year.
You'd save the Haribo's.
That's a really good idea.
But then if you get saved
after like five years.
Why did you eat the dog food first?
There'd be psychologically a lot of questions going on.
Can I just take it back to museums
for a second?
Because I just did a search
on the sort of weird museums of the world.
And there's so many great ones.
I'm so glad that they do.
The Giant Shoe Museum.
That's just...
I don't know if you count it as a museum.
It's a single exhibit wall.
Is it a shoe?
No, it says here, to see the museum's collections,
visitors must drop quarters into a coin box
and then look through
stereoscope viewing slots that reveal
views of a variety of giant shoes,
including size 37.
That's American size though.
Yeah, but that was worn by the world's tallest man
and the world's largest collection
of giant shoes.
The world's tallest ever man, William Wadlow.
Was he called? No, Robert Wadlow.
He was a shoe salesman. That was his job.
Wow, was he?
Because he had to get really, really big shoes
because they didn't make them that size.
He went to the company and they said,
yeah, sure, you can have them for free
if you go around and sell them. And he did.
But why would anyone else want to buy size 37 shoes?
It was an example of what great worksmanship you have
because you can make such a big one
and you can have them for free.
That's very cool.
Minnesota's Science Museum has the content
of a former museum inside it,
which was called the Museum of Questionable Medical Devices,
including the Prostate Gland Warmer,
the Vibratory Chair
and the Recto Rotor.
You just picked three at random though.
France has
four museums devoted to foie gras.
Wow.
They didn't want more than the first one,
but the people behind the museum
did.
That's good.
That was pretty labored.
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