No Such Thing As A Fish - 54: No Such Thing As Domesticated Furniture
Episode Date: March 27, 2015Live at the Soho Theatre, Dan, James, Andy and Anna discuss eccentric dinner parties, the most pointless scientific studies and what happens to tattoos when they die. ...
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Hello, and welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish, a weekly podcast this
week coming to you from the Soho Theatre in Central London. My name is Dan Schreiber.
I'm sitting here with James Harkin, Andy Murray, and Anna Chazinski, and once again
we have gathered around the microphones with our four favorite facts from the last seven
days, and in no particular order, here we go, starting with you, Andy Murray.
My fact this week is that when you have a tattoo lasered off, you end up pooing it out.
Does it still have the same design on the poo?
So yeah, this happens. So when you have a tattoo, it goes into the middle layer of the
skin, which is called the dermis, and when it's lasered off, the beams of light, they
heat up the ink and it breaks down into tiny particles, and those go into the bloodstream,
and then they are excreted via the liver and the digestive system, and that's how they
get out of you. So do you know what tattoos are made out of, like the ink? Do you know
where that comes from? Okay, well, there was a lady on Facebook who got a tattoo of vegan
on her inner lip, and then her friends pointed out that actually most black ink of tattoos
is made from burnt animal bones. Oh, God, she's going to see that every time she looks
in the mirror. Every time she eats anything, she's going to get a little... Yeah, that's
the worst part. Yeah, you can get vegan tattoos, but they're very rare indeed. Right. The oldest
tattoo we know of is on a lip, isn't it? It's a tattoo of a thin pencil moustache. Tattooed
onto the upper lip of a 7,000-year-old mummy from Chile. Wow. What, like a little French
kind of... I don't know if it has the gap down the middle that a pencil moustache is supposed
to have, but... Do they have to have a gap down the middle? Don't they? No, I've never
heard of one. Yeah, all right, yeah. I think there's somebody who's never been able to
grow a moustache. I don't know, Dan? I don't know, yeah. My grandmother has tattooed
eyebrows. Does she part? Does she, like, permanently look surprised? I don't know where her original
eyebrows went, though. That's what I don't know. Did she poo them out? I do think you're
going to say your grandmother had a thin pencil moustache, which would be kind of a cool
thing to share. Yeah. So the thing on tattoos being quite... Sort of the stereotype of them
being for sailors or for criminals or whatever it is. The headline, tattoos are not just
for sailors anymore, has appeared in print every decade since the mid-19th century. Every
decade there's a rash of articles saying they've entered the mainstream, here they are. So
today more teachers have them, they're members of the armed forces. Really? Yeah, by 14%
to 9%. But it used to be like 90% of sailors had tattoos, wasn't it? Something like that
in the 19th century, probably. Yeah. And one thing that it was good for was it meant that
you could identify a sailor who had drowned because you'd be able to identify them by
the tattoos, and they were actually used in that way. So you could tell that he had
a tattoo that said, I have drowned? He has a lot of tattoos. The first one says, help.
The second one says, I don't know, down. The third one says, blub, blub, blub. And the
other thing that they thought the sailors is if you had hold tattooed on your knuckles
on one hand and fast on the other hand, then it would help you hold onto ropes better.
The way you could stop drowning as a sailor, apparently, was to have a pig tattooed on
your knee and then a cock, as in a rooster, tattooed on your right leg somewhere, and
they had a saying that was, pig on the knee, safety at sea, a cock on the right, never
lose a fight. Which is weird. Neither of those animals can swim. Yeah. Yeah. Fight very well.
Speaking of cocks and tattoos. Oh, God. Sometimes when I want to find out some facts for this
show, I'll go back to the old QI top boards and see what I wrote in the past. And I searched
for tattoos and I found something that Dan posted in 2005. Really? And this is what he
said. He said, I was told today that if a man was to have a tattoo done on his penis,
then he was entitled to free tattoos for the rest of his life from anywhere in the world
in any tattooing power. No questions asked. This is what I used to pass for QI research
back in the day. So I have a confession. It's not just my grandmother with a tattoo.
Well, I had a look and there are one or two tattoo parlors that will claim that they will
do that, whether they will or not. I don't know, but it's not everyone in the world all
the time. It's a very difficult thing to Google, by the way. It's very easy to Google. It's
very difficult to forget. I shouldn't have gone in Google images really, but I found
a story about a 21-year-old from Iran who paid a tattoo artist to put the letter M for
his girlfriend's last name and the Persian phrase for good luck with your journeys on
his penis. And he felt pain for eight days and then his penis became permanently semi-erect,
so he couldn't get it to go down. He lived with it the three months before getting medical
help and doctors tried shunting the penis to drain excess blood. Not sure what, shunting?
Yes, it's a weird, nice thing. And then it didn't work, and so the patient decided he
was fine with the condition and declined further treatment.
Wow.
Wow.
At the turn of the... So they were a quite a high society thing, weren't they, in the
19th century? At the turn of the... In about 1900, a New York newspaper estimated that 75%
of society ladies in New York had tattoos.
Wow.
75%?
So what kind of tattoos? Like practical ones or...
Practical tattoos.
Yeah, I'm going to...
No, no, no, no. You do. Don't back away. Step up.
You get medical tattoos. We get some of the oldest tattoos ever, which are 5,000 years
old. The 3,000 BC. We found bodies where there's a body in the Alps which has tattoos over
his joints, and they looked at the skeleton, and he had osteoarthritis in those joints.
So it's like a kind of acupuncture.
This is the Iceman, in fact, isn't it?
Yeah.
That's what I meant by it, actually, because the Mercury astronauts, apparently, as well.
Sure, it was, by the way.
Yeah.
No, no, no, but I looked into whether or not astronauts had any tattoos, because I just
thought that they seemed like the type of people that would, and, majoritably...
What?
I feel like I'm saying a lot of things that it's just me agreeing with.
Mercury astronauts, they would have them in just like sensor locations, basically, for
whenever they had to monitor their health, so they knew where they were. They would...
They were like putting a bit of tape on the ground as a mark for an actor, yeah.
There was a guy who was arrested by Canada's border services agency with the letters H-A-T-E
on his knuckles, and he claimed that it stood for happiness all through eternity.
That's very good.
Great thinker.
One woman used an internet translation to translate I Love David into Hebrew. She later
discovered she inadvertently had the phrase, Babylon is the world's leading dictionary
and translation software on her back forever.
But she doesn't have a free account with Babylon forever, so...
David Beckham has Victoria Beckham's name misspelled tattooed onto his body in Hindi.
Yeah.
Oh, dear.
And Samantha Cameron has a tattoo.
Yeah, she's cooler than all of us.
Hello, dance grandmother.
Is it a practical tattoo?
It's a dolphin on her ankle. Is that practical?
Yeah, that's cool.
Why did she... Was that just a holiday that she took once, or...?
To a dolphin.
To a dolphinarium.
No, just you go on holiday and you get a tattoo.
No, I don't mean there's like, oh, is anyone got a camera?
No?
Oh, quick tattoo that dolphin so I can live this memory forever.
Yeah, sorry.
There's an American guy who has over a thousand tattoos based on Disney characters,
including all 101 of 101 Dalmatians.
Which I don't.
There must be tiny, though, of the Dalmatians.
Well, they're pothies, aren't they?
Well, obviously none of them is life-sized, but I mean...
So by the single, you know, the area of a body by a thousand,
there's not much room you've got.
Yeah, so I mean, I think it is to scale, but it is scale down.
And he has a system, so he has all the evil characters are below his knees,
and all the undersea characters are below his belly.
So I don't know, but then all the evil characters aren't under the sea,
so I don't know how he works that out.
Wow.
Anyway, he gets copyrighted by Disney.
Like, Disney's allowed him to do it.
Why is it illegal to do a Disney tattoo?
I think when you've got that many of them.
What would they do?
Make you poo it out.
Oh, yeah.
We're going to have to move on to our next fact.
So if anyone has anything more that they want to add.
On mistakes in tattoos, John Carew, who's a footballer.
Yeah, John Carew.
John Carew, he got a tattoo saying...
He wanted to say, my life, my rules.
So he got Mavi Meregla, but he got the accent wrong on Regla.
He got an acute accent instead of a grave one,
which translates as, my life, my menstruation.
OK, it's time for our second fact of the evening,
and that fact is Chazinski's.
Yeah, my fact is that the man who invented the airship
used to hold dinner parties with 10-foot-high chairs
so that his guests could experience the joy of flight.
This guy was an amazing presenting guy
called Alberto Santos Dumont.
And first of all, he decided to have him hanging from the ceiling,
which you could understand was more reminiscent of flight.
But one of his first dinner parties,
he put all his guests hanging from the ceiling
and the ceiling collapsed, so he's...
So after all the funerals of the previous guests,
weirdly, no one wanted to come to the next party
and the ceiling was fine.
So the wake will be at mine.
I've organised a nice dinner.
Wow.
Yeah, he was great.
He was an inventor. He grew up on a plantation in Brazil
and he invented a toy motor-powered functioning aeroplane,
which was quite a long time before the first aeroplanes were invented
in the late 19th century.
And then he moved to Paris and became a celebrity
because he invented the airship, which attracted attention,
and used to invite celebrities and royalty to his house
and house these wacky dinner parties
and they'd have to mount their seats on ladders and...
Yeah.
I remember this in his time.
At the time said,
when the names of all those who have occupied outstanding positions
in the world have been forgotten,
there will be a name which will remain in our memory
that of Santos Dumont.
What was the name again?
He does sound like an amazing guy.
He sounds unbelievable, actually.
As in, he had his own airship in Paris
when no one else had any means of flight.
He was just flying around the streets of Paris.
He would just stop at a café,
tether it, and then go down to the café
and say, well, see you later.
And four night off.
It was in the late 19th century, early 20th century.
He just did it.
What was he tethering to?
Rooftops. And lamp posts and things like that.
It wasn't huge. When you look at photos of it,
it's not a massive airship.
No, it's a one-man airship, I think, a personal airship.
It's unbelievable.
He would go past ladies' bedrooms
and they would throw their underwear out of the window at him.
That's how famous he was.
Really? Yeah, yeah.
He was super generous.
So he was responsible for the first woman ever to take flight
because there was a princess.
I can't...
She was a princess of some foreign country
who came to visit Paris, took an interest in his airship,
said, wouldn't mind going up one of those.
And he taught her to fly one.
And then he had her flying one through the streets of Paris
and he cycled below, shouting her instructions
as she did so.
And this was the first woman to fly.
Wow.
Actually, it sounds way worse to think of men throwing their underwear at her.
Oh, Jesus.
He invented other things as well.
I know, the 10-foot chair. No one talks about it.
No one mentions the 10-foot chair.
We've all got one.
No, he invented a set of motorized skis
to get him back up a mountain.
Really?
And he invented a slingshot which would throw life belts out
from sinking ships so that everyone could have a life belt.
He also invented a racing airship
which was similar to his airship,
but he never raced it because he had no one to race against.
That is so sad.
He could have just made two, couldn't he?
Yeah.
Can I bring it to dinner parties very quickly?
Yeah, go ahead.
I just want to talk about my favorite dinner party host from history
which is William Buckland.
He's a very exciting character.
He studied fossils and he was a geologist.
But he also went on this massive mission
to eat every single thing in the animal kingdom.
He was just like,
I need to have everything his favorite.
So if you went to his house for dinner,
you would end up having things like elephant's trunk
and he knew food,
like he knew animal food,
everything about them so well that he was once invited
to go to this church
where they thought a saint's blood was on the ground of this church.
And he came over there
and he had a look at it and he was like,
because it was just his patch on the ground,
oh, it's the saint's blood.
He leaned down, he licked it,
and he came back up and went,
nah, it's bat urine.
He just knew.
But also the worst guest to have at a dinner party,
was Lord Harcourt.
He's the Archbishop of York.
And at the dinner, Harcourt was like,
I've got this amazing relic that I want to show you all.
He brought out what was the heart of Louis the 16th
in a box.
And within seconds, Bucklin just grabbed it and he ate it.
But you say worst dinner guest ever.
Very few dinner hosts bring the heart
of a dead king to the table.
I would say worst dinner host ever.
Okay, here's another dinner party thing.
There was a christening of Louis the 14th's grandson.
He created a cake.
Sorry, there was a great chef
called Antoine Caram
who created a cake.
And the cake was made out of almond paste,
pastry and clockwork.
I love clockwork.
I love it so much.
It's so hard to get these days in pastries.
Every Greg's I go into.
They had clockwork
because this cake on top of it
had a baby Duke
entering the world through a marzipan vagina.
That is quite a sense of peace, isn't it?
Sorry, it was him.
It was celebrating him.
It was a model of his mother.
Giving birth to him.
Through marzipan with clockwork.
Don't get that Greg's to you.
Wow.
I was reading that back in the day
when furniture was just suddenly being introduced
to the idea of us having it in our homes and stuff.
Wait, wait, wait.
I know.
But it was being introduced
to the idea of having it
in our homes.
It was quite a shock for furniture.
It wasn't domesticated until the 1500s.
There were beautiful days
when, you know, freestanding shazes
would just roam the belt.
Oh, God.
It's not a wild chair these days.
There are only
400 Louis Cato's tables
left in the wild.
Sorry. Sorry, Doug.
Oh, no, that was my fax.
No, they...
Apparently, when we started introducing furniture,
we, like, cupboards would just be put
in the middle of the room, as opposed to against the wall now.
And dinner tables,
we didn't used to have legs to dinner tables.
You would have people come and sit.
If you were having a party, there would be a big board
like this that you would bring out
and you would put it on your legs.
So they'd just be sat on your legs.
And that's why, apparently, there were boards
that would be in borders who stay in your house.
That's why they're called borders, because
they would be part of the legs
that would hold the table up.
I read this in Bill Bryson's book
at home, and he used to say that carpets,
before we used to walk on them,
you'd just have them on your wall and you'd go,
it's my carpet.
And if you had a special guest, then you'd take it down
from the wall and you'd put it for them to walk on.
And chairs used to be against the walls.
You would have chairs against the walls,
because at night, when you didn't have electricity,
you'd put all your stuff in the middle of your room.
But if you had chairs all over the shop,
then you might hurt yourself.
Where are you going?
You should be asleep.
They would get up halfway through the night, wouldn't they?
Because people used to sleep in two different sections.
And then get up and have sex,
or go through the crosswalk.
You're very confident about it.
Oh, we're going to have to move on.
Shall we move on? Has anyone got anything else?
I quite like the inactivity chair,
which has recently been invented,
which is a chair with only two legs.
And it is basically so that you live in fear
while you sit on it,
and have to constantly be doing
a balancing act.
And I think the idea is that you can exercise
while also being seated, but it sounds awful.
Anyway, invest in one if you're looking to improve your health.
I always think, I'm not afraid enough
when I'm sitting down.
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Okay, time for fact number three.
That is my fact.
My fact this week is that
a new scientific study has concluded
that there are too many
scientific studies.
It's basically the study
was saying that it's doing a thing now
where so many studies are coming out
in science that it's diminishing
the attention that gets
given to an actual good study
because it's drawing headlines
away from them, and studies are going
so sort of minute
into these little, I don't know,
there's great ones that we've read
in the past that we've talked about
in the office and stuff, a study that showed
that the fish herring that they fought
to communicate with each other
that's how they talk, and that's a study
and that might get in the way of saying
that could be a good study because
you might want to know if there's a load.
So I think it was in Scandinavia
somewhere they heard a load of
bubbles underneath the sea
and it might have been like a Russian submarine
or something like that, but it turned out to be herrings
communicating by farting to each other
and if you hadn't done the study
you wouldn't know that that was a thing.
So probably saved World War 3.
Okay, so that's a bad example.
Fine.
There are lots of studies that
seem to be taking attention away.
So it's the idea that we forget as well.
So we might have cracked everything
five years ago, but just not noticed at the time
and now we're carrying on and on with more studies.
And we do start to do some
relevance, not we personally,
but the Royal Society of Chemistry
last year published 11 steps on how to make
the perfect cup of tea,
which definitively determined
after releasing this paper that you are supposed
to put the milk in first
to avoid de-napturation
of the milk.
We actually have big arguments in the QI office
about how to make tea nearly.
I can sense a little bit of anger.
Oh my God, that was the British thing ever.
There was a palpable...
It wasn't a hiss,
but it was an intake of breath, wasn't it?
Yeah.
I think we all felt that.
So I am with the breath intake
because I always think it was a travesty
to suggest you put the milk in first,
but that is what they say, that's a safer way to do it.
It's also explained in this study.
It's safer.
Three more tea deaths in Warford Stoke.
So the single most
downloaded paper
in the history of the journal
is it PLOS?
It's the 2005 paper
why most published research findings are false.
That's quite good, isn't it?
So there's a guy
who's written a lot of studies about false words
in science, and his name is John Ioannidis.
And as a boy,
he was already doing research on research,
as it were, he was doing meta-research.
And when he was a child, he came up with a love numbers system
to work out
how affectionate he was about his own family.
He said,
my mother was getting 1,024.42.
My grandmother, 173.73.
That's amazing.
He said basically that all the statistics
in all these papers are a bit dubious, etc.
But then a lot of people have said
actually his statistics are a bit dubious as well.
So, yeah.
Controversial.
It is certainly...
I assume he was talking about
like
publication bias.
So publication bias is a major problem
in scientific studies, isn't it?
Because only positive results tend to be published
and about 90% of studies
that are done actually yield negative results
which aren't as headline-grabbing.
And there are journals now which are like the journal
of negative results, which is just people
who've done experiments and gone,
we found nothing.
Nothing has been achieved here.
And there's also a guy
called Mark Schreim at Harvard
who wanted to see how easy it would be
to be published.
And so he published an article
and he made one up using
randomtextgenerator.com
and the article was called
Cuckoo for Coco Puffs
and it was by Pinkerton A. LeBrain
and Orson Wells
and he submitted it
to 37 journals over two weeks
and it was accepted by 17 of them.
Wow.
I know.
Pinkerton A. LeBrain.
It's a good term, isn't it?
Because you have a name like LeBrain,
you're going to be a scientist.
There's a journal called Brain.
Do you remember that?
There's a journal called Brain
and there's a guy who used to be the head of Brain
who was called Head.
Henry Head it was.
And then he left Brain
and then when he left being the head of Brain
Head was replaced as the head of Brain
by a guy called Brain.
There's a website called Retraction Watch
because they pay attention
to people quietly retracting
their research when it turns out to be wrong.
Wow.
It was set up by these two journalists
called Ivan Oransky and Adam Marcus
and they're absolute heroes
and the top one or two
retraction holders are both anesthesiologists
for what it's worth
and there is one scientist in Japan
who has had to retract
183 papers out of
212.
Wow.
Stop publishing him.
But his name is Captain Orson
so they assume
it must be right.
So I went on to DailyMail.co.uk
and searched for according to a recent study
just to see
if there were too many really
and here were
the first five things I found
and even sharks
can be shy according to a new study.
We have covered on the podcast
that sharks can have friends
so let's not
be a shy shark.
Study reveals the tactics we use
to avoid being heard on the loo.
Oh, that's great.
Any
tests for them?
Any is.
They only read the headline, sorry.
Another one was bump in the night
sending the wife.
One in five men pretend to be asleep
when hearing a possible intruder
Fortunately, fortunately
it's almost always furniture
but they haven't placed
safely by the wall.
We're going to have to move on.
Okay, one more thing.
I looked at other things that there's too many of
and there was a study done
that said
three quarters of viewers of television
have cited confusion
over the proliferation of choice
as a reason they miss shows
as in there's so many channels
they always miss TV shows.
They're just flicking desperately between them.
They can't find the right one.
I had a look at all the different channels
on my TV system on Sky
and I found one
which I've never seen before.
It's pavershoes.tv
and it's Sky Channel 669
and their programs include
sensational sandals
pretty in pumps
and classic clogs
Sounds like a fast shot
I'll have another one.
Yeah, well, I think you are on this.
669
But in the UK it's
667
It's a shoe size joke.
Alright, we're going to have to move on
to our final fact.
How did the shoe material go?
Time for our final fact
of the evening and that is
James. Okay, my fact is
that you should never pick up
a desert tortoise.
If you do it can pee itself to death.
Yeah, so what they do is they store urine
in their bladder which they can then draw
upon because they live in the desert
so they need as much water as they can get
and if you pick them up they can get so scared
that they will evacuate their bladder
as it wet themselves and then they can die
of dehydration.
Because they keep
something like 40% of their body mass
is kept as the urine that then
translates into a sort of like rehydrated
water, not a rehydrated water.
It's really diluted I think.
So it's not too acidic or it doesn't
damage them. But it's just a way that
something can live in the desert but obviously
then they don't expect people to just come and pick them up
and then they die.
But yeah, desert tortoises pretty cool
they live around the Las Vegas area
around the bladder, around there.
They dig basins to catch
rainwater another way they get water
and they always know where they are
and whenever it looks like it's going to rain
they're always found next to these places that they've dug
waiting for the water to come so they can immediately
drink it. And weirdly
this is really strange. Humans
are not so likely to die
when they're in the
children or teenagers or whatever
and you get more likely to die as you get older
but weirdly desert tortoises
they are less likely to die as the time goes on.
The older they get the less likely they are to die.
Yeah, so that's why they live for so long
and that's like tortoises do live for a long time.
Yeah.
That's true of these birds. Well, one was so old
I read this in
and apparently there's a bit of contention about
whether or not this is true or not but one of
Darwin.
What we'll do is we'll cut that out
and put it at the start of every fight you say about that.
Basically
there was a tortoise called Harriet
which belonged to Charles Darwin so
the contentious bit is did that belong to Charles Darwin
they're not fully sure but
Harriet had a bit of a travelled life after Darwin
or whoever got her, ended up in Australia Zoo
and ended up being looked
after by Steve Irwin.
So Steve Irwin and Charles Darwin are connected
within one lifetime.
Wow. Yeah, that is really cool.
There was a tortoise called
there was a tortoise called
Adwaita who lived to the
age of 255
and that meant that this tortoise was born
before the USA existed
and their death was announced on CNN.
Wow.
So there's some quite good footage of
tortoises sniffing each other's bum like dogs
because they secrete pheromones
from like the cloaca or from that area
and there's quite good footage of
a female tortoise
crawling over a lettuce
and secreting her scent as she goes
and then a male tortoise really enthusiastically
trying to have sex with a lettuce
because you see
Wow.
Lettuce was used to, they did think it was
an aphrodisiac, didn't they?
In ancient Egypt they did. Tortoises and people did, yeah.
It's because
they used to grow quite tall.
They used to have wild lettuce which was really tall
and it wasn't like a normal, boring, modern
lettuce, it was quite exciting.
And it secreted a white sap.
It secreted a white sap and it tasted peppery
and it was a stem
and it secreted, you know.
Lettuce used to be better as well.
Apparently tortoises can use
touchscreen technology now.
They could touch things.
No, so
they found that tortoises are actually
a lot more clever than they believe them to be
originally. For example in mazes
they're fantastic in mazes. They can remember
multiple destinations in one single route
which often rats can't do
and now they're teaching them to use touchscreen technology
to
create Spotify lists
of great music.
Because they've got great
taste in music which
Captain Orson published in his
recent paper.
I haven't seen the Retraction List, I don't know
if it was in that. So if they need
more food and they
give them grapes and apples and stuff, they
press the right button that highlights itself.
So they go into a car, though.
And just, more lettuce,
more lettuce, more lettuce.
Oh, by the way,
apparently, I've always been confused between
what a tortoise and a turtle is.
And so I'm just going to say, in case everyone here
doesn't know the difference, but a tortoise
has feet and
a turtle has flippers.
So now we know.
That's a very good way of...
So I thought they should have been called ninja tortoises
because they have feet.
Oh, yeah.
Dan, I think you've redeemed yourself without that.
What was amazing about that was it took
ages for everyone to go,
that wasn't as dumb as it
definitely sounded.
So on
ways of staying
hydrated in the desert, where there's
no water and no rain,
there are lots of very cool ways of doing it.
So there are some beetles which
when night is just
turning into day, they stand very still
and they let fog condense on their bodies
and then they can drink it because
it slowly coalesces onto them and then
they have enough water to get them through the day.
The name for these beetles
is fog stand beetles.
Someone thought that was the best name
on that day that they could come up with.
Every time you see animals
and their names, it's always like,
there's a tortoise called the big-headed tortoise.
That was a very small creative meeting.
He told me he was the best tortoise.
Here's some...
Some other tortoise names while we're here.
The pancake tortoise.
The geometric tortoise.
The impressed tortoise.
Who hangs around with a big-headed tortoise, I guess.
This guy, I really like him.
The wolf-volcano giant tortoise.
It just sounds like the four best things.
Yeah, he's got a really good PR.
Other desert animals
that have good ways of storing their water
are road runners urinate out their eyes.
What?
I have not seen that in the cartoon.
It's how they excrete their salt
because you use up a lot of water.
You lose a lot of water when you urinate,
so they just lose it through their eyes.
Also, mountain goats.
You've got to be really careful now, apparently,
in areas of mountain goats, like in North America,
because they really like human urine
because they've realised they don't have a nose
or a human urine because they've realised
they don't have a natural salt,
a natural thing they eat that provides them with their salt,
but they have worked out that mountaineers,
we, and that has salt in it,
and so they will spot human mountaineers
and follow them until they go to take a wee,
and then they will sometimes maul them
in the attempt to
it drink their
excretion.
Yeah, you've got to look out.
Where do they maul? No, I don't want to know.
Don't turtles pee through their mouth.
Some species.
And there are some.
The Fitzroy River turtle breathes through its anus.
Oh, no!
It's a really cool turtle. It's Australian, I think,
and, yeah, it is.
It's in the Fitzroy River, and it lives in
water which has a lot of oxygen in it,
and its
cloacal orifice goes
two-thirds of the way along it,
and it gets 68% of its oxygen through its bottom.
Wow. You do a lot!
Did you know a tortoise was once the fastest
animal in the world?
No, it wasn't.
It really was.
Can I guess where you're talking about?
You tell it. No, is it the space thing?
It is the space thing. Yeah, it's so smart.
OK, go on, you can tell it.
Looks like we've got a big head of tortoise in the room.
I'm very cost.
This was in 1968,
and the Soviets sent out
a spaceship from Kazakhstan
with a tortoise on it,
and it was the first animal in deep space,
and it travelled round the moon
before returning to Earth seven days later,
so for that short amount of time,
it was the fastest animal in the world.
There were also wine flies, mealworms,
and a few other things, but that was the main one.
That was the headline grabber, wasn't it?
The poor mealworms going,
why was there two?
But they were the first lifeforms as well
to get around to the moon.
Yeah, to go around the back of the moon.
So your fact was about
the animals, in a way,
and we don't know why, there's no evolutionary reason
why a lot of animals wet themselves
when they're afraid, and it's really weird.
So gazelles wet themselves when they're being chased by lions,
not very useful.
Well, one theory is that it might send the lions off
because they have the scent somewhere else, right?
I think that's one theory.
But don't they surely chase the scent until they reach the bottom?
Yeah, so you pee, and then the lion will stop
and go, oh, there's a smell of gazelle pee there,
and then, I mean, that's just one theory.
What it is with humans when you get shocked, I think,
is somehow your brain gets overridden by the shock,
and normally your brain is
like, you always want to pee,
and your brain's saying, no, don't pee, you're on stage.
But you're shocked so much
that you end up wetting yourself.
Yeah.
It's weird, there's a bit of the brain
called the pontine mixturition center,
which is constantly saying, let's go, let's do it.
Really?
Yeah, when your bladder is full,
it makes the decision to empty the bladder,
and then, but the prefrontal cortex
always overrides the desire.
But when you get really, really, really stressed,
the limbic system overrides the prefrontal cortex,
and so the signals get confused,
and then, you know, it's all cold
and you're ashamed.
But we don't know why, but it's long to start off with.
We're going to have to wrap up.
Okay, one more thing?
There was a guy whose tortoise
had a swollen penis,
and he didn't have the money
to pay for the operation,
and so he went on to one of these
lifestyle things, and he needed 200 pounds,
and he reached his target
in less than 24 hours.
And he went over, he went up to
555 pounds in the end,
people really clubbed together
and paid for it.
And when you gave your money,
you could put a little note about what you wanted to say.
One person said,
I hope he gets the repair done soon.
I know what it's like having a large penis.
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No, it's not so nice.
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But at least he gave some money, so...
We hope that total's doing well,
and we're going to have to wrap up.
So that's it, that's all of our facts.
Thanks so much for being here.
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Yeah, we'll see you again next time. Goodbye.
Thanks so much.
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