No Such Thing As A Fish - BONUS: Drop Us A Line - June 2023

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

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Hey everyone, what is this strange thing that has appeared on your nose which thinks a fish feed? Well let me tell you, it is last month episode of Drop as a Line, which is a special show that is usually only for subscribers where we read all of your emails and comments and we discuss them and we never get upset when people correct us. Well listen, you can hear the whole show here and really let's be honest, this is a not very subtle way of trying to encourage you to sign up for Club Fish. If you haven't already, Club Fish is a great place to go.

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Just treat this as a little summer present from us to you. Okay, on with the show. Hi, Andy. Hello, Andy. Hi, guys. And hello to you, the listener, a member of Club Fish. Welcome to Dropus Align. You're occasional. I was going to say monthly, but sometimes it moves around a line. You're occasional, I was gonna say monthly but sometimes it moves

around a bit. You're sporadic post bag episode where we talk about the facts that you've sent into us, the challenges that you've sent, the factual errors that we might have to defend ourselves against accusations of having made. That's the show. Right, so let's get into the post bag. Here's a good one to start off. This is great. It's from John. Hi John. Hello John. John Jenkins. Great name. John writes, hi elves. Did the claim that James Garfield was fed through his anus? First episode query. You know what Andy, can I just say? Yeah. You're very keen for us to do these drop us a line quite regularly because you're worried that we might start talking about episodes that people don't remember very well,

like from maybe a month ago, but it turns out you got one from nine years ago. Yeah, this has got a special place in mind. I think because we talk about President Garfield so much. We know the Anna episode as well. We played that in. I believe we did. And that was about four months ago. Yeah, yeah yeah, okay John writes did so basically we had this claim that present Gulfield for the last three months with life eight Everything yeah, yeah, because he'd been shot and he was on a stomach and he couldn't yeah, okay Did the claim that James Gulfield was fed through his owners get officially debunked on no such thing as a fish Because chat GBT has warned me quite passive aggressively about believing or spreading false information And he's appended a screenshot of a chat he had with chat GBT has warned me quite passive aggressively about believing or spreading false information.

And he's appended a screenshot of a chat he had with chat GBT. Right. So John says James Garfield ate through his anus to chat GBT and chat GBT rights back. That claim is not based on any factual information and is not supported by any credible sources. James Garfield was the 20th president of the United States and he did not eat through his anus. He was assassinated in 1881 and blah blah blah and so he rode and he rode again like where did the claim come from then? Yeah, and and chat GPT writes back There is a persistent urban legend that James Garfield was fed through his rectum after being shot in the back It's completely unfounded. It has no basis in fact, right?

It's not supported by an incredible sources. So John was very concerned and wrote to us, and it absolutely is true. So as in John has susted out, or you've gone off to do extra research, I've gone off and looked into it a bit more. It hasn't been debunked, it's absolutely true. Right, okay, well this is what's happened here, it's really clear. A few episodes ago, you came up with a chat GPT version of No Suksings of Fish, and it really, really sucked. And probably chat GPT in his newfound sentience, has heard that and thought, you know what,

I'm going to bring these guys down a peg or two. And so he's decided to do this. Oh yeah, right. Crumble it from Ep 1. It's like taking a Jenga block out from the bottom, or all three. Absolutely. Do you want to hear a Jenga block out from the bottom or all three. It's a top of a whole thing. Do you want to hear a Jenga fact? Yeah.

In the game of Jenga, the official original rules of Jenga, no two Jenga blocks are exactly identical. They all have to be slightly different. You're kidding. Uh-uh. What? Okay, that's mind-blowing. So the reason being that when you stack them up, if they were all identical, then they

would stack perfectly. And it would be a boring game, because you wouldn't be able to push any of them out. So is the original or still? I think it's still, but it was definitely the original. And so they have very, very slight flaws in them, which means that they're not quite standing on top of each other, which means that the friction doesn't hold them in place.

So every block is unique. A spoke that, same guy. You know, it's nice. Is it someone just standing by the machine doing the woodblock cutting, just nudging it every time a block is it? Anyway, so just to go back to the Garfield thing, I found this amazing article on medium.com all about the doctor. Do you remember he was called his next doctor?

Dr. Willough bless. Yeah, Dr. Willough bless, exactly. And it has incredibly detailed information about the rectal feeding, which I don't think we ever covered in the first episode. He wrote a pamphlet, Dr Bliss, a year after Garfield died, which is called feeding per rectum, as illustrated in the case of the late President Garfield and others. Wow. And it endorsed the method, and I had notes on how to be used,

and I had all these detailed notes about what he'd been fed. the method and I had notes on how to be used and I had all these detailed notes about what he'd been fed. I gave Anna for her birthday a leaflet from Dr. Dr. Willard Bliss. So they handed some out like when Garfield died, they handed out a lot of leaflets to the crowd saying that the president is dead and they're still exten, you can still buy them. I bought Anna one for her birthday one. That's amazing. Well, if you want to, for the next birthday, you can buy a copy of this pamphlet. Oh, we've just missed it. Yeah.

Oh, well. It's a bit odd though, because it's suggesting it, but the patient dies. So it's, the method, I guess he's saying, is what works here. It's saying the method is good. He has all these notes about what was said. I don't think we covered the fact that

fresh cow's blood was issued as a food, like a kind of very irony smoothie. No, we didn't, squirrel soup we did. Yeah, we had eggs that were causing annoying flatus. Yes. Was it a reflaving something? Flaming something, yeah. It was a very bad, very wrong.

On this subject of chat, GPT and other bots, yeah, we did a fact about, I don't think it was explicitly about Alexa, but it was kind of about Alexa the other day. And I found out that you can go onto askalexa.com or something like that, and you can put in your own answers to questions. Okay. So it helps Alexa to work because it gives you all the answers.

You know, you never know what people are going to ask. It's not a chatbot, so it needs to be fed the questions and fed the answers. And I fed the answer to, is there a such thing as a fish? Because until that point, if you said, is there such thing as a fish? You said yes, a fish is an animal which has fins and a backbone and blah blah blah. And so I fed it. According to biologist Stephen J. Gould, there is no seizing as a fish because a hagfish is more closely related to a human than a salmon. Oh, whatever it was, I can't remember what I said. Sorry, you've done this for anyone asking their Alexa. So I did. And I got an email back from Alexa saying, this is now in

the system. But then I tried it the other day and it didn't work. So if everyone listening to this can ask their Alexa, check it out right now. Check it out and see if it's in there because it says that it's in there but it doesn't seem to be doing it. Well, what world are we doing a bit of viral marketing? We could probably do it right now.

I bet someone's like, Alexa, is there such thing as a fish? Someone's house, that would have just said it off just then. Really, that's the kind of thing that's gonna keep us ahead of the competition in podcast terms. Absolutely. Alexa, buy everything to play for

by James Hark and Anna Toshinsky from Amazon.com. Sorry, just while we're doing that. Absolutely, get it in. It's pre-order, we should add. Yeah, yeah. But if you want to book now, Alexa, buy the theory of everything else. Buy Dan Shriver. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you want a book now, Alexa, buy the theory of everything else, by Dan Schreiber.

Well, yeah, but I just feel like that's they're all a bit nonfiction people about what's something a bit different. Alexa, buy the sanctuary, buy Andrew Hunter Murray. Right, can we move on? Can we move on? Can I say that?

It's about your book, you absolutely can't say it. Well, no, it's about no, no, it's about my audio book. Oh, no, no, no say it. Well, no, it's about no, no, it's about my audio book. Oh my god, no, no, no. Chatchy PT, the three of us had a chat with someone who's telling us about the dangers of what's going on with it right now. It's getting really scary because it's kind of using

global information. It's using the hive mind to answer questions that maybe shouldn't be answered and getting a bit scary. So there was a story the other day. I don't know if you guys saw this, where chatGPT was given a challenge in order to do a task online. And the only thing stepping in its way was the fact that it had a capture.

So it had one of those things where you have to identify where the traffic lights are. The traffic lights are, and so on, robots can't do it. AI can't do it, impossible. So that's the bit where chatGPT stops. Except chatGPT looked about how you get around something like that. Hired a human from task rabbit or one of those sites

who then did the capture for it and then it got into complete the task. So the robots. That's clever. They're coming. You said chat GPT too. I said P. No, you said B. Sounds like a rubbish British version of chat GPT.

I thought the chance is everything with it. Oh, hello. Or is it like GB news? They reply with everything going, oh, yeah, but what about Starma, Ray? Like the pandemic, yeah. Right, come on, let's do some emails. Let's do some emails.

Right, we've got an email. This is very exciting from Duncan Pierce. Oh, that is exciting. Yeah, well it is, because the subject line is spicy meat. Oh right. Oh you messaged us about this. We said not to open it but you went there. Yeah. You're citing. Okay. Spicy meat. It was something we introduced on the last episode of the podcast. And it means like what inside knowledge about. No, no, that's that's just meat. Oh this is spicy meat about dangerous or forbidden topics. Oh, okay. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. All controversial stuff. Let's see, I mean see how spicy you think this meat is. Hello, he says, he's picked up the lingo. I have a slice of spicy meat I would like to share. On the latest episode of Drop As Align, so we're in sectioning ourselves here, you mentioned that people often think

that James' face matches Andy's voice and vice versa. I think that Andy's name matches Dan's face better and Dan's name matches Andy's face better. I'm not really sure why. I just think it's the vibes, you know? Hugs and kisses, Duncan. It's that spicy. I don't think it's that I'm afraid of that. It's meat. It's unquestionably meat, but I don't think it's spicy enough. But it's not bad meat. I bet I wouldn't send it back in a, but it's not bad meat.

I bet I wouldn't send it back in a restaurant, which I do with anything above 11 and herb. I've gleefully enjoyed that lemon and herb email from you. So thank you. Yeah, nice. Right, here's another one. It's from Gary Greenberg. Lovely name.

Hi, quotes, no such thing as a fish podcasters. We know who's being addressed. I'm a little behind on my podcasts, so I just heard the one where you talked about people who can get goose bumps at will Oh, that wasn't too long ago. I happen to be one of those people Ooh. I now know just how rare it is to build on a couple of things said in the podcast One, I have actually described this as a useless superpower, so that description was spot on in my opinion

Two, no, I can't make my nipples erect it well was spot on in my opinion. Two, no, I can't make my nipples a wrecked well. That's what we all wanted to know. Because it's just like one giant goose bump. We follow that. If you'd like, I can try to take a video of it. Brackets, the goose bumps, not my nipples. Oh, yeah, I'd be keen.

I'm, unless they're a nipples, I'm not interested. I'm afraid Gary. Fair enough. What if he really zoomed in on the the goose bump? Yeah, that'll do. If you were making a model railway, you could use your goose bumps as tiny nipples for the characters. Well, that is an interesting offer. That's quite spicy.

I got sent to complain. Well, that is an interesting offer. That's quite spicy. I got sent to complain. It should go, you know, it should go to you, really. Oh, he's probably going to go. Okay. No, no, this is just, I got sent this on a DM a while ago. So I'm sorry, it's taking so long to bring it to the table. It's from, I think someone called Ringo Brian.

I might have added Ringo. So let's call it, because he signs off as B. So maybe it's Brian. Okay. All right.ingo, so let's call it because he signs off his B, so maybe it's Brian. Okay. All right. Hello, Dan. Long time listener, first time rider, huge fan of the show. Can express my dismay at the most recent episode with Lucy Porter, so it's a while ago. Yeah. In which you and Lucy go on to spoil one flu over the kuku's nest. As you were talking, it sounded great, and I paused the episode and I went and bought the book. Oh no! You can then imagine my horror when not 45 seconds later you go on to spoil it.

Oh, it's all so everyone is likely to know the story he puts in quotes. But not only spoil it, but go on to explain the subtleties in the cheese actions in that it was a mercy killing. Any other books you want to ruin? Currently reading remains of the day. You want to take a swipe? I love a crack. All my love. Be just to let you know, mate, that at the end of the Remains of the Day,

Stevens, the butler, realize his life has been a hollow sham. At least it's on a bench. Does it? That's it. But it doesn't matter, because the journey to get there is an, it's an incredible book and you should read it anyway. Do you think there is something in this of like a chat line perhaps where people want to

hear spoilers and you employ someone who's read myriad books like you have Andy, so you just sit by your phone and someone just goes, drink, drink, drink, drink, 30-9 steps. Oh, it's a memory system set by, yeah, yeah, that's good, I like it. Oh, hello. Yes, they each think the other ones died. It's a poison thing, yeah, yeah. And then finally, enough, they both died.

Brilliant, bye. Is it for sadists or is it for cramming GCSE students or is it for, sometimes you come up with the idea and you don't know what the market is. That's great point. It just arrives. Yeah, if you build it know what the market is. That's great point. It's just arrives. Yeah. If you build it, they will come.

It feels like a grace. Is that a spoiler about, um, field of dreams? Field of dreams? Yeah. I do build it. They came. Oh, that's great. Um, here's an email from Molly Blu-Dawn.

Um, the mention of gold-beater's skin in episode 476 reminded me that in Japan, instead of Cowin Testons, they used to beat gold very, very thin by putting it in between layers of Cowin Testons. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. In Japan, instead of Cowin Testons, Goldbeta's used Tanuki Scroeter. Part of it, who was Tanuki? Tanuki is another name for a raccoon dog. Oh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know they have. But there's a big thing in Japan of Tanuki with massive nuts acts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And supposedly it's because the gold beaters were using the scrotums to wall up the gold leaf very, very, very thin. And she sent a source and it looked pretty reputable. So there we go. That's really good. Yeah, nice. Thank you very much, Molly. I got a comment.

Can I just chuck one more in? Just like say please on my phone and I realize I haven't read them. This is from Tim Ryan in Canada. Just finished episode 463 with your fact about the sluggard wakers and church. Remember I had this fact where if if you fell asleep in church, someone went around poking you to make sure you'd come.

Yeah, I do. And be awake for the time of the... They can't vote around poking you to make sure you'd come. Yeah, it's true. Come too. These people, as Tim, these people are alive and well and thriving in rural Ghana. I went to two churches while they're in.

Both had women patrolling the side aisles with six-foot poles that they would that they would poke not so gently Between people's shoulders if they not enough. Yeah, that's really good. It's pretty cool. That's good. That's awesome Here's a query for more information From Michael Michael writes sorry to hound you this is actually a clever joke with so many emails I was just listening to the British library episode with Sally Phillips and found myself wanting to know more about your hound, pooch, or mud game. It was glossed over in the episode. There was a reason we glossed over this.

I don't remember this. I'm sure I'm the only listener. I'm sure he says I'm sure I'm the only listener. I think he must mean I'm sure I'm not the only listener. Desperate to hear which doggie traits belong to which category. So Andy has this game that he plays whenever he sees a canine, where they are either a mutt, a pooch, or a hound.

Yeah, okay. And apparently if you're Andy, you can automatically tell which is which. Well, it takes, it's taken time, but I'm now very, very quick. And the person who decides whether or not your right is you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You normally you play it with someone else. It's not really a one player game. It can be at a pinch in a tight spot. I can't picture the difference. Think of a classic pooch. I'm thinking of shitsoo. I'm thinking something that's small

and fluffy. There are some dogs which are clearly poches. And you can have very large pooches as well, but normally they're a bit smaller. Hounds, you know what a hound is? It's like it's an Irish wolf hound, or it's like they're big, long legs, they're rangel, they're terrifying. Then you've got a mutt, which is a bit of a catchal. Okay, let me ask some questions due to,

what I see there today. What is Harry McClary from Donaldson's Dairy? That's a children's book character, isn't it? Harry McClary is a nut. He's a nut. Bit of everything. Hercules Moss is Bigger's Horse. My knowledge of the universe on the freight is not... I mean, if he's as big as a horse, he sounds like a hound.

Okay, yeah, he's pretty houndy. Yeah. Yeah. But it's all, it's on a dog by dog basis, you know. Right. And you have two dogs from the same breed, one of which is a hound, one of which is a mutt's horror. I don't know if you could have two dexons, one of which is a pooch. I think they're quite pooch.

Oh, no, they're quite houndy, actually. Well, that's cool. That's cool. Yeah. And they would use to be hunting dogs. And you can have like, it's star signs, you know, it's like it's a hound with a bit of pooch. Okay you know anyway it's a really fun game. Oh yeah it sounds great. No it's not. No I'm trying to get my head around it because I'm thinking like a pit bull what's a pit bull? What's a sausage dog?

What like these dogs are hound? What's a sausage dog then? Well I think it's a bit of a I think that's also a hound because they can be quite vicious and you know, okay So hound is the trait of vicious. There's also just dog which is a labrador which is a classic dog That's dog yeah, Labrador's and retrieves are both just dogs. Okay, right right well great game I think I think maybe keep it to one player Let's move on let's move on to an email from anonymous teacher Jenny Okay, not very move on. Let's move on to an email from anonymous teacher Jenny. Okay, not very anonymous. Half anonymous, crucially. Hello, no such thing as a fish team. I am a high school history teacher from Pennsylvania. I have checked with Jenny what I'm allowed

to say about her and already I feel like it's quite narrowed. Every Friday morning, I listened to your podcast during my drive to school and also get to my classroom. So she lives not with a walking distance of her school in Pennsylvania. Oh, it would be. Yeah, I get to my classroom ready for the day. I suppose I've brought it up enough with my first class that some of my students have taken to asking, so what facts did you learn this morning? I'm a surname, and I haven't redacted that.

I am very excited that today I will get to tell them about tiny bits of coal. Oh no! Because we covered what model row is used for coal, which is small lumps of coal. Hence my gel-calier about nipples. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. What I won't tell them, Jenny, continues, is that I was laughing so hard at how ridiculous

that whole bit was. I nearly ran one of them, my pupils, over while pulling into the parking lot. Fortunately, everyone was fine and it was only me who even seemed to notice. But still, she's so much. Wow. She says, imagine if I would have had to explain to the police about just how funny it was that Model Train builders used tiny pieces of coal to represent coal on their models and that's why I was momentarily and justifiably incapacitated. Feels like she'd get off, don't you think? I think so. I think no jury would convict.

Yeah. So thank you Jenny. We haven't had a few of those. Did we think in that? We once sent a photo of an actual car crash. Someone went off the side of the road because they were laughing so hard apparently. She sent it. Yeah, she sent us photos. It was like a quite mangled car. This was in our first year. Oh, well, that was very funny. Yeah, that was tired. Burned out. It's a great stuff. The golf field ain't us here. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well,

thanks for writing in Jenny. Yeah. Yeah. There's just what we're on call gate. There's another one from Duel Gate. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a there's not just what we're on call gate. Um, there's another one from Jules. Call gate. Sorry. Call gate gate. Yeah. Jules writes in saying I suspect others may have mentioned this. You're wrong Jules. You're wrong. Everyone, everyone, everyone, a lot of people write in saying I think a lot of other people must have mentioned this. Almost invariably they're the only person who's who's noticed it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, spam filters. is it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, Spum Filters. In episode 479, Andy got very excited in the lead up to a Monterey Waifact. I was on the edge of my seat, brackets metaphorically,

as I was walking. Because I knew a related Moss fact, could it be possible that I might have known something before hearing it on the podcast? I don't know, it's not. Alas, no. The slight groans, very generous to call them slight, at coal being used to model coal, were echoed by myself as I realised Andy had a swing and a miss when he could have told everyone that model railway makers often use moss to recreate bushes and trees. That's so funny. That's so funny. Now, I'm afraidjil, I think I have mentioned that. You have. On the whole episode of The Bokka.

I'm not sure if it hasn't been on the podcast for sure, because I remember our producer of QI Pears Fletcher used to make fun of you all the time. But apparently you once mentioned that moss can be used on model railways, and almost every meeting he used to say, oh Andy with his moss on his model railways. This came quite a thing didn't it for about a year? It did. But that was also during the year when we were teasing him because it turns out he keeps all his old checkbook stubs. So it really became a bit of a back and forth war of attrition there. Yeah. Yeah. If I look at our archive for the word bosses, I'm going to get absolutely nowhere.

Jules, I'm afraid I've got nowhere proving it if it has been on the podcast, but I didn't know it. I think you know, sometimes when you bring a topic to the table with fish and we do our recordings and then we've got to move on because times run. Yeah. I wish I just had a bit more time to chat. I sort of feel like drop us a line of slightly turning into Andy's chats to just really get back into the meet-of-a-subject that we said goodbye to. I think it's more like he listens to the final edit and he's like, I can't believe he cut that out. Well the last time we talked about model trains I actually don't think I don't think it was mentioned the most thing. So actually

Jules that's a perfectly reasonably male to send, even if fundamentally, um, baseless. I used to have it when I was young and I did have model, was making models. Well, that's a thing about bullying in the workplace. It's often based on a, a nub of truth. Yeah. And that's why it's often fine. But she was saying that she had, she was like, oh, I can't do this. Yeah, jewells. Oh, I don't know, jewells. Oh, it could be jewells, yeah. Yeah, jewells. Yeah, jewells.

Yeah, jewells. Oh, is it, do we have a saying? A famous model railway. Yeah. Aficionado, jewells Holland. Oh, there we go. This is exciting. Did you know that, Dan?

Is that one of the effects I got caught? Jewells Holland. Yeah, what? I think I might have pre-cut it and just not said it. Right, but jewells Holland has a huge model railway. Does he know I didn't know that? Yeah, well, I think I might have pre-cut it and just not said it. But Jules Holland has a huge model railway. Does he? No, I didn't know that. Jules Isaniel Hootenani is actually built inside his model railway track. It's very impressive.

Sorry, what were you going to say? Jules? Was Jules saying that they were astonished that they knew something about Moss without having learned it on our show? Because if that's the case, then yes. That's the fact before me and... Oh, okay, all right, no, no, no, no, that's the case and yes, that's before me and that's yeah. Yeah. So anyway, I think it still counts as a swing in a mess. Yeah. And I'll take that on the chin. I actually, when you started saying that fact about the call, I genuinely thought you were going to say about moss because you remember you said, I've got a fact about model railways and then realized what

you're going to say because you told us there was this boring fact. Yeah. And I knew it was going to be a boring fact and I was sure it was going to be the most. The most thing, yeah. I really threw you for a loop there. Yeah. All right, here's one more. This is a really nice one.

This is from Lelly. Hello, Andy, Andrew, James and Anna. Sorry, Dan. So there you go. Hello, Andy, Andrew, James and Anna. Sorry Dan. So that again. Hello Andy, Andrew James and Anna. Two hello's for you. Yes that's the point that is why I read that. I'm gonna hear a fact about Andes. Oh yeah, I got it. For the last podcast which was about puffins, which will have gone out by the time this goes out, I found in the OED that there was an old English word for a puffin which was a cock Andy.

A cock Andy. Cock Andy. That's another unique man. Cock Andy is quite. Yeah, it's cute. Puffins are cute. It's cute. Anyway, sorry. No, no, no.

Anyway, Lily writes hello to me twice so that you can get stuff. I'm a huge fan of yours. All four of us. I found out, strong Victorian ladies used to be a thing and can't recall an episode in which you discussed them, apologies if you have. I think we might have fleetingly mentioned them, I think it was because we did them on the TV show, we never really got fully into them. Anyway, she just mentions a fact, which I love,

which is very related to fish as well, which is great. Get this, in 1901, Volcano, the strong woman, freed a wagon stuck in maiden lane, coven gardener. No! By lifting it in front of astonished witnesses. Wow. She links to an article all about the Victorians strong women

So it's great. We actually mentioned Sandouin, I think didn't we? We did briefly. Yeah, yeah But for the reference our office used to be on made and yeah And you know the other weird thing they pedestrianized it during COVID. That's not the weird thing shut up. Yeah But they pedestrianized it by planting these huge wagons across the beginning and end of the lane. So a Mottodeville corner would be able to do like a sword in the stone, but it's the wagon in the Cobbled Street. That's very good.

Yeah, exactly. Oh, well, thank you, Lillie. This is Dan, by the way, I'm on the show. That's why. Ah. Brilliant. Bye. Oh.

Oh, it's been ever known. Yeah. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. It's been ever known! Yeah, it's a podcast at qi.com. We love hearing your extra information, your challenges, your spicy meats. So please do keep sending them in, and we'll be back with another one of these in a month or so. Alright, see you then, bye! you