Not Another D&D Podcast - BONUS EPISODE: The Hearthside Chats (Q&A)

Episode Date: February 26, 2018

Murph, Jake, Emily, and Caldwell answer questions from Reddit (/r/NotAnotherDnDpodcast) and Twitter (#NaDDPod). The cast discusses the origins of the characters, DMing, character death, the a...dventure so far, and more! Thanks for 400 reviews! We'll continue to do more bonus episodes as we hit more benchmarks. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 After the episode is the bonus episode. Really? What happened to you? We're having spoken for 10 minutes. I've been rehearsing it under my breath. Yeah, you have a notebook. You read that. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:01:43 There's so many drafts. But guys, thank you for getting us up to, we're up to 400 reviews and climbing. We said if we got to 400 reviews, we would do an episode where we answered your guys questions about the campaign or D&D in general. We keep our promises. And we keep our promises. We're good people. So why don't we, should we just kick it off and get right no question? Yeah, well, I would love that cool. So I've organized some here episode four spoilers. Here we go. Yeah, we do we record the episodes in blocks. So I had to prep these guys before we started today not to give spoilers for things that happen. Right. I got a good one.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Hard one kills Danny. one. Hard one kills Danny. Danny comes back. Yeah, I would never kill Danny. I would never dare to see much. He was king of the bully wags. That's cool. Cool. So guys, people asked us questions on the, some not another D&D podcast, subreddit. Yeah, you can check it out at art, not another D&D podcast. We're on Twitter. I had hashtag NAD pod. That's 2D's. That's 2D's. And it went pod.
Starting point is 00:02:50 And one pod. Yeah. 2D's up top. 1D at the end. Right. 3D likes to do D&D. Someone is like very confused at their computer. That's NAD pod with 2D's, 1D at the end though.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And then an A in the front. And then an N first and a P right in the middle. That's how you spell it. Fucking love to spell. Dope, so we're gonna get to as many questions as we can if we didn't get to your question. I think we're still gonna go on the subreddit, and we'll try to answer as many as we can.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I'll be on there, I can't speak of these. I love that, let's do that. He's freaking ragging at us. I always leave this subreddit. All right, first question comes from Mike T on Twitter. He says, I'm curious how you all decided on which race slash class you were going to be. Did you just pick the one that sounded coolest?
Starting point is 00:03:32 Was there any conscious, collaborative effort made to balance the party? What if any guidance did Murf provide? Murf provided Jack Shit. Also, I write his due course. I actively encourage you guys not to play. I texted with Murf a little bit about my character. So I write his de-actively encouraged you guys not to play. Yeah, I texted with Murph a little bit about my character.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I played... I played Railed Cold Well. Yeah, that's true. I initially was just gonna play like a pretty straight up druid. I think I was still gonna do a halfling druid, but I was gonna do a druid that was a boy scout. I knew I wanted to be a boy scout, but I was... You had already kind of created the green teens. You were gonna do the green teens, but you were gonna do a druid that was a boy scout. I knew I wanted to be a boy scout, but I was like, you had already kind of created the green teens.
Starting point is 00:04:06 You were gonna do the green teens, but you were gonna be a druid. Right. But then Emily Rez just like a normal sized person. No, no, no, a druid's a class. You played with a druid. Emily is a druid. Oh, moonshine's a druid. Oh, moonshine's a druid.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Oh, but moonshine is a pretty funky druid. So just like a magic person. Yeah, but moonshine's a pretty funky druid because she can actually deal some damage because I was reluctant to play a druid because I played druid in another campaign and I was like, I already played druid and my druid isn't that powerful.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I'm worried about having just three people and one of them is a druid, but then I read about the circle of spores druid and I was like, this pretty. Yeah, and you had to text Caldwell and tell him that he couldn't be a Druid anymore. I thought you were a halfling Druid or no, I'm a halfling, uh, Paladin. Paladin, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Is it Paladin a race? No, no, Paladin is a class. Yeah. I'm learning along with the listeners. But you're doing a good job like on the podcast. You're very entertaining. You're you're playing the game pretty pretty Intelligent, laced. Yeah, it's amazing that you don't know anything I chose I chose a human because right was afraid of like all the The spells and the potions and all the well the human can still be a wizard
Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, no, we just we're your classes fighter. You chose fighter because I I mean Murf gave me a lot of guidance clearly as anybody Listen, you can tell yeah, I was gonna say to go back to the original question We were here when you chose when Jake chose his character his race and. He knew he wanted to be human, like Eric Warren. But then, Murf was probing you, being like, well, what do you want to do? Like basically saying, like, oh, do you want to be this kind of class, do you want to be this kind of class? And you were like, I just want to be really cool.
Starting point is 00:05:58 I got stuff. And then Murf was like, do you want to be like a champion? And you're like, yeah, I can't. That really is it. Yeah, I went for buzzwords. There's a subclass of fighter that is really the easiest class to play, which is at level three, you can take the champion subclass. And all it means is that you critical hit easier, you get more attacks earlier. It's just, it's the easiest class and also it really plays in a hard ones personality which is great. It
Starting point is 00:06:29 makes it very easy to be your friend. If it makes any, it clears anything up when I was in college, my math credit was elementary school math for teaching, like teaching major people. I had it declared so I was allowed to take that as a math credit. So I just learned, I relearned I was allowed to take that. Is it a math credit? So I just learned my multiplication day. Wow. So it's like when you do- I always take the path of least risen.
Starting point is 00:06:51 That is so funny. Wait, were you like final tests? Did you have to host a math class for the rest of the class? The sad truth to this is that I didn't go to my final because I skipped everything and I got an F in the class. Hell yeah. You got an F in elementary math. That's right.
Starting point is 00:07:10 But the teachers get to look at the answers. That's the whole point. It's, I know, it's crazy. I had a final, and I had a D in the class, and then instead of taking the final, I just went home for some early. That is a level of not giving a fuck. the final I just went home for summer early. That is a level of not giving out. Look at it in the fuck. I wish I could achieve.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. Yeah. But called well, you're, I feel like Beverly was kind of a happy accident because you, you became a paladin as sort of a concession to Emily. But I think Beverly wouldn't be as good if he wasn't a little paladin. No, I think making Beverly a strong boy really worked in his favor. It's not gonna be a boy if he was a druid.
Starting point is 00:07:52 No, I think he's trying to become a little man. No, I think he was always gonna be a boy. He was always gonna be a boy scout, but I think that by leaning and then being a strong boy, it got a little more into what I really want him to be, which is just a little anime character. Yeah. And by having him be like this nice little strong boy, it got a little more into what I really want him to be, which is just a little anime character. Yeah. And by having him be like this nice little strong boy, he's basically, he's basically the
Starting point is 00:08:10 protagonist of every shonen anime. He's basically just deco from my hero, but like since he's a halfling, he'll always just be a sweet little guy. Okay, that brings us to another question. I kind of have these organized so we're quasi on topic. That's the DM. Weird. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Should we be rolling? Not, I value order. Okay, we should at least be rolling for who answers the question. Oh, that would actually be really fun. I don't have my dice. I know, my dice. All right, so let's just everybody guess what they would've rolled.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I think I just got a 20. Okay, wow. That's really good. I got a 25 because I have plus five to whatever I roll. Shit, that's awesome. Okay, wow, that's really good. I got it 25 because I have plus five to whatever I roll. Shit, that's awesome. Okay, you do. So, Theo Dudley from Reddit asks, Hey guys, my question is for everybody.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Are your characters expressions of yourself to some extent or are you more into the idea of playing a character completely unlike your real self? I feel like I can answer forever. Yeah. Good for it. You're such a good boy. Oh.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And you literally are a hick out. Yeah, the weird thing. And I've been growing my beard on purpose since we started playing. I did. I did by two pairs of overalls the other day. Emily. Emily has been wearing so much overalls. And eating more mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. So, so me out. I have been eating more mushrooms. And you've got the cats. I mean, I think that when I was going to play moonshine, I remember having this really big debate in my head, which when I voiced it out to Merff, it sounded insane, which is that I was like, I think I really want her to be. Because a lot of other D&D characters I play are like really angsty or really staunchly about something else. Or I've got a really, I don't know how to describe her, really a religiously closed-minded cleric that I play.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And I wanted to play this one super sweet. I was like, should I play a real sweetheart? And- You originally wanted to name her sweetie. Yeah. And I said, how, please. I'm so glad you went with that. I can't imagine playing with like-
Starting point is 00:10:13 You guys do have a great group dynamic because your characters all have character flaws and personalities, but none of you are like the angsty rogue who doesn't want to work with anyone. It's true. It always just leads to fucking a bad game. We're all very enthusiastic. I will say that is the one thing that ties
Starting point is 00:10:30 all of my characters together is that I'm very obsessed with party. Like I am incapable of playing a character that's like, I don't know if I want to be traveling around with you guys. I'm always like, cool, we're family now. I've been meeting you and you are now under my way. I saw a lot of comments about people waiting for the episode
Starting point is 00:10:49 where I slip up and call hard one and moonshine mom and dad. That really made me laugh too. I mean, in the first episode we become your scout masters. Exactly. You guys are pretty much his parents. You know what, going back to that question is of the moonshine thing. It's like, well, first off, one thing is like,
Starting point is 00:11:04 I really, I relate to her hospitality. I love cooking for other people and I love like, I love getting everyone together. But I also, she like, Desperate does not want to be a mother, even though she loves family. And so like, I would say that's true about me. So I think that all the stuff with Beverly and moonshine
Starting point is 00:11:24 is just like, she gets to have like this little sun without having to actually do it. Yeah, you also do have a fungal entity form. I guess that's the fun part about the characters too because like on a light-hearted level, you're like, oh, this person's a badass, but then like on a deeper level, you always like insert a small part of you into the character that makes it so much more fun. Yeah, you kind of have to, right? Like, that's kind of the only way to get invested. I think you're either playing a version of yourself or you're playing kind of who you want to be in the way.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Hard one for me is both. Right. I will say the insecurity, but also he does rules. Yeah. I will say all of my characters are very interested in women. So that's always acting out something that I don't act out in my day to day life. Right. I called all of you want to talk about your connection to Beverly a little. I was an Eagle Scout. I was in the Boy Scout some America.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And I do have a big merit badge sash, and I like quantifiable achievement. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And I do like making people, I like pleasing people, and making sure people are happy and sated. That sounds like Beverly to me. Yep. All right, let's go on another question.
Starting point is 00:12:40 On the topic of the characters, Olivia Moody from Twitter asks, how did moonshine get paw paw? Is he from a pedigree possum reader? Or is he a rescue possum? Oh wow, I think it's much more one of those situations. Like if you watch that cats documentary on YouTube, like the catchest shows up?
Starting point is 00:13:00 Oliver and Ketty. Or Ketty. Ketty, yeah. Okay. It's like the catch just shows up every day. I think it's kind of just like, Papa and moonshine, we're like, they just kept crossing paths and then it was like,
Starting point is 00:13:12 I don't know, do we just team up? Okay, I think it was like that. I was telling Emily that there is a Mima gump and that is Mima's possum. Oh. It's a big possum. And so a little peak behind the screen, but Paw Paw is the runt of one of Mimaw's litters. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I didn't even know that yet. It's just great. I can't wait for us to all over. He's a runt. He's don't have that reflected in his style. No, he's just like, he's a strong runt. He's not actually like, you know, developmentally different than a different possum,
Starting point is 00:13:48 but he's maybe a little crazier, maybe a little more rapidly, and get quit as nourished as a child. I can't wait. And another thing is whenever there's pop-up noises, it's usually Jay. Jay, do your little pop-up. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I don't know. Really? When we were doing it, when we did the shout outs at the end of the last episode, Emily was like, Jake has to do the pop-off shout outs. I was like, I was like, you gotta be responsible for them. It's your pops.
Starting point is 00:14:15 How does your pop-off, boys go? Oh, I didn't do it. I just did like a like, pop-off. Why are you like, why are you biting at my legs? Oh, it's because he wants to say how do you do? I don't weird fantasy, not even fantasy, I guess more of an idea. Someday when we get our... I don't know, I understand.
Starting point is 00:14:32 When we get our first ad, I want to have our coupon code be Papa. Absolutely. Oh, that would be amazing. What a big dream. I know. What a big dream. One ad. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Papa. It's awesome that you describe that as a fantasy. I have a boring life. She's Jake-like on his porch looking at the sunset being like one day. One of these days we'll say enter Papa for 5% off. I just can't wait for her space. I just can't wait for everyone in our party to be dead so that it can finally be pop-up adventures. No, man. That is one thing that I don't, Murphy and I haven't really come to a conclusion yet about if pop-up will level up, like an animal companion or not? I am so close to me able to talk to pop-up.
Starting point is 00:15:18 You are very close to being able to talk to pop-up, because you guys are level two right now. Yeah. At level three, if Caldwell's character, if Beverly takes the Green Knight subclass, the growth of ancients, you'll be able to cast Speak to Animals. You better fucking believe I'm gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You know how awful it is to be with your family at dinner? And they're all sharing jokes with a dog, and you don't know what they're saying. It's the worst. It's a cool character trait. I'm talking to my dad, talk to my dog growing up and I always wonder what they were talking about. It's because like every dad does talk to the dog but like this dad can actually understand with the dog.
Starting point is 00:15:56 So they had long meaningful conversations by the fire. A lot of people have been commenting on Reddit and tweeting at me suggesting to have a mirror come on in voice, pop-off. But see that makes me mad because Jake is the voice of pop-off. But even that, pop-off. You've been trying to give a mirror my accomplishments for years. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Pop-off is going to talk so much. Like, soon you guys are going to be able to speak to him. Yeah. A mirror would need to be a need to want to sit with us and play D&D for six hours at a time, several times. And he can't even like not make fun of you. And for us, we already know that we are is going to voice the resurrected dark dragon.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Right. That's right. I just realized, isn't there a druid thing that I can cast like a awakened, can I awaken Papa at like a super high level? What do you mean awakened Papa? Like give him his own shake him more intelligent. This is finally when you're willing to become a mother. Wait, it's like shape of water with you and Papa. Yeah, you could you could awaken Papa.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Emily, you could rats of Nimm Papa. Holy shit, you can miss his Frisbee Papa. That's all yeah, do it. Yeah. Pop-up is going to have electricity. Well, let's do another question. This one's from the Reddit from The Prince of Fear. Love Reddit. How far ahead is the story planned? Is there going to be a big plot or just a bunch of minniars like the Moonstone saga?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Also, is character death a risk here? I can answer that. I'm just going to. I think about it. As far as how far ahead the story is planned. I don't think I wouldn't consider the Moonstone saga like a mini arc. It's just, that's the village you guys are in right now. Right. And you guys will still be the same characters. You'll pick up clues in Moonstone that will lead you somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:17:42 So everything will be connected. It's not just gonna be like, oh, you guys do this, and then you go on to the next thing for no reason, or you get rid of these characters and roll new ones. It's gonna be, Moonstone will happen, you guys will do good, or you'll do bad, and then things will happen based on that.
Starting point is 00:17:59 And then we'll get to decide where we wanna go next. Pretty much, yeah. Oh, cool. I think I have two questions. One, say, I don't know if you're allowed to answer this, or if it will be too much behind the curtain. Sure. But when we were, when we snuck around
Starting point is 00:18:14 that half-orc barbarian guard dude. Right. In your head, are you like, you have what's going to happen if we talk to that dude, or at least like enough backstory on that guy. Right. And enough backstory if we just ignore him and go across the river. Total.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Are you like hoping for one thing or the other, what's your thought process as we're deciding? So with Moonstone, I have the barbarians who have kind of their own goals. I have the green teens quest, and then there are also other things going on that haven't happened yet on the podcast, so I won't say them. But basically everyone has their own goals and fears and things that they want.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So it's less about me being like, oh, if they don't talk to this guy, I don't know what I'm gonna do. And it's more like, okay, this guy wants to X. If they stop him, he won't do X. If they don't stop him, maybe he will. Or maybe he would have helped. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:17 Maybe he was tired of the other barbarians. Maybe he's like more of a peace-minded druid who wants to join the other druids in Moonstone. And maybe he would have helped you guys. Or maybe he's like more of a peace-minded druid who wants to join the other druids in Moonstone, and maybe he would have helped you guys. Or maybe he's a bad guy. Maybe he's a bad guy. Maybe he would have turned into a bird as soon as he came near you.
Starting point is 00:19:34 He would have flew off and told the other barbarians. Or maybe he was super powerful, and he would have fought him, and he would have kicked your ass. And even though you have something for no matter what we decide to do, is there ever like a hope in your heart? Like, I hope they talked to this guy, this would be fun. Yes, for instance, at the tavern, you can kind of influence what people do by making it
Starting point is 00:19:53 more tantalizing. Like Scoutmaster Danny, I wanted you guys to talk to him. You could have walked right in that bar and sat with the fisherman, which would have been a little bit less interesting than Scoutmaster Danny. Who's so close to talking about fish? I don't know, man. I could really sit through some descriptions of fantasy fish.
Starting point is 00:20:11 But if a episode one was just us talking about fish for an hour and a half, get this. Tuna is called Zuna. But I think you can encourage that stuff by being like, well, Danny's sitting by himself at the bar. So he's at the bar. So you're probably going to go up and order a drink, right? So then I can initiate that conversation. But there's also it's encouraging people to do the most interesting thing, but ultimately,
Starting point is 00:20:37 they'll kind of come up with the most interesting thing on your own. Yeah, it's like in a video game when like one area is really well lit. And every person's part. Yeah, it's like in a video game when like one area is really well lit. And every person is like, yeah, I guess I'm like, yeah, it's like here. You could show up to Moonstone and it could have been, and I've certainly played games where this has happened where it could be like,
Starting point is 00:20:53 called Walsh character shows up, and instead of running right up to hard one, he instead is just like, I don't wanna go to the tavern because I'm a paladin and that I don't wanna be a place where they're serving alcohol. And I just have to be like all right well he walks around what does he see well maybe he sees this half-work druid that's sitting down by the bay you know you still have all these things planned out new character detail Beverly does have a bunch of
Starting point is 00:21:16 condoms that he hands out to people. Oh hell yeah wait what is a fantasy condom? What is a condom in Bahumia look like. I? Look, it would be like a lamb skin, but from like a fantasy animal. What's a good, like an albeer skin? Albeer skin. Just an albeer's foreskin. That's been stitched up with some seagrass. There's some skin.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Barely keeps on looking at papa. Yeah, I feel like albeer foreskin are like naturally elastic, so it just worked perfectly. Yeah. They also have spermicide, naturally occurring. Oh, yeah, the oils of their skin discourage the growth of sperm. So that's now canon.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Yeah, right down in the room. Yeah, yeah, it's right there. I'm typing as we speak. Dear wizard's of the coast. You're right. Some ideas. Well, let's talk about the second part of this question, because they asked, is character death a risk here?
Starting point is 00:22:08 And I will say it absolutely is risk here. It's another warning to us. Yeah, that is why we've been chastised week after week. Or do you want to stop hectoring us to stay alive? It's like after a big game, you go to the locker room and then you get cornered by the coach. And it's just like, you won this time, but those were bad fundamentals.
Starting point is 00:22:28 We gotta talk to you by coach Taylor. You're not always gonna win when you shoot the ball up from like in mid court. Right, but I mean, hard one's had a couple close calls. Uh-huh, yeah. I think that what happened is the first game I was super scared that I was dead and then it turned out I was knocked out and everybody bailed me out. I will say I will say that like if I
Starting point is 00:22:49 Had not played a lot of D&D if I didn't know that Murph would gladly kill one of my characters Just to teach me a lesson. I would send Papa on like spy missions and Do like like fight with him and stuff like that but because I know that the threat of death is looming I'm very conservative and pretty much keep him in my overall bib. Well, yeah, I will say I don't kill people as punishments. Right. No, I just think that you are a very fair DM.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Right, I think, but I think that the podcast would be less interesting to listen to, and I think the game would be less interesting to play if there was no danger. That's true. Sometimes, I mean, a lot of times things go, like, we have another campaign with Merfs Friends from New Jersey. Right, game. And two of the people have had to re-roll new characters because one of them was turned into A Werewolf,
Starting point is 00:23:44 and the other one was accidentally sent to another astral plane. So it's like, but these were all because of stupid moves on our party's part, so it's like, they were all very fair. It made sense. It was the right move, S&DM. I have a question for a Murf. If I die, can I just introduce Beverly's secret twin,
Starting point is 00:24:04 sneverly? Ha! No. If I die, can I just introduce Beverly's Secret Twin, Snivrally? No. The rule is you have to pick a different class. Oh, okay. And you could, if you really, really were like, I really just need to play Beverly cousin. And I need to be a halfling druid or something that was similar to Beverly.
Starting point is 00:24:21 We could talk about it. But I think it's cool when people, if one character goes, just make a new one instead of making a junior version of the other one. It's gonna be cool if one of our stars, because then we do get to have a funeral in real life with all of our listeners. I would be so depressed if Hard One sure if with that.
Starting point is 00:24:38 It would be sad. It would be one of the characters' stars. But it's sad. Well, I put an order to my hero from hero force. And it hasn't arrived yet. And I think comes when I'm dead, I'll be very sad. Oh man. I don't think I can handle that.
Starting point is 00:24:53 But I think consequences is what makes the game so exciting. So the fact that you failed at that bully-wug call, the whole camp was alerted, the next time you do something like that and you succeed, you guys will flip the fuck out. It's true. And the listeners will be so happy. Right. And it'll be more fun when we're talking about, like, should we try this again?
Starting point is 00:25:12 And I am gonna try it again and again and again. Right. So this is what we were talking about almost a little bit before. We started recording, which is that when I re-listen to the podcast, I had thought, I had thought, like, oh man, that was such a good idea of Carl Welles to make that mating call. That's such a good call. And then I re-listen to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And it was me who said to make the mating call. And I was so ashamed. It was also funny because Jake brought up. He's like, couldn't we just snap some twigs? Yeah. And I was thinking this, as you guys were like couldn't we just snap some twigs? Yeah. And I was thinking this as you guys were like we need to lure them out with a sound in my head I'm like okay, they're gonna you know make some sounds in the woods like they're an animal or some noises so he goes and and and looks and and investigates himself.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But there's something that's so funny to me like just can appear comedy about like being steamrolled by a Stummer idea. Yes, I absolutely the tide is turned like no no no we're doing a made a call right I never want to discourage you guys from doing those bold moves But I think it's fun to kind of balance the major victories in those moments and the major failures But here's the thing though that would have been such a fucking awesome moment if Leapal had just let out a super convincing female bully walk. Yeah, I think of is when you walked into the temple of Melora and you're like, can I
Starting point is 00:26:40 sing a song? A murp is like fine, roll in You rolled the fucking 20 or 18 or something. And it was just like, brilliant. Yeah, top 40 hit. Yeah, we can't do anything about it. It's an amazing song. And you win this round. You had a plus six to deception, right?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah. You had a plus six to deception. I gave you advantage. You had to get a 20, but you had two chances. You got to roll two die to roll a 14 or higher. So that's still pretty good. I got really close, yeah. And I will say as far as like character death
Starting point is 00:27:07 or consequences or anything like that, I would never have, you know, you do that. And then all of a sudden, Spears come out of everywhere and you fight 30 bully wugs. It's like the scouting party was alerted. They came after you guys. Now that after that happened,
Starting point is 00:27:21 you guys have made another crazy decision to run towards the camp. Now you might die. Know that if we die, it will be because we've committed some grave sin. You have to commit out. Yeah, it's kind of like a, it's like a two-strike rule basically. You can do one thing really stupid consequences will happen. If then after that while you're barely alive from that consequence, you'll do something stupid again, then you might die. Let's get to another question. I will, wait, I also wanna say one thing
Starting point is 00:27:48 since we're talking about that because I just feel like I really, I really fudged it. I mean, I stand by the decision, but I also had no clue that the Gong was too alert to be for other bully wabs. I thought, oh, that's a ritualistic Gong. That's gonna be for when they, we are, I think.. Bullywabs. I thought, oh, that's a ritualistic gong. Yeah. That's going to be for when they we
Starting point is 00:28:06 made a lot of sense in retrospect. You know, it did not occur to us at all. No, that's very funny because it just goes to show you. Nothing ever goes the way you think it's going to go. I was like, they'll see this guy and they'll know that they need to sneak up to him and get him before he rings the gong. Oh, cool. He has a gong. he must be in a band. Yeah, right, I thought that the dude was like there for the ritual waiting for the kids to be brought.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah, that's it, I thought too, I was like that gong's gonna get wrong and then they're gonna eat the kids. That's what I thought too, I thought the gong started the ritual. So wrong on the gong, the wrong gong. Um, wrong gong. So some of these questions were a little bit longer, but we shortened them a little bit just so we could get to more questions. But just Claire on Reddit asked,
Starting point is 00:28:50 Merf-specific, how worried are you that story elements you spend minutes, hours, days, planning will just get skipped by the party entirely. How much would you try to coax them into doing a specific thing without using too heavy a hand? Oh, that's sort of a specific thing. I think we kind of talked about this, but I kind of just set up,
Starting point is 00:29:07 you lay out bread crumbs, you basically, you try to give them like three really great choices, and you hope that they go down one of those paths, and usually people do. Sometimes you'll get somebody that'll just be like, I wanna get a haircut, and you'll be like, fuck. Now I have to just pull a barber character out of it.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I feel like that's the person that, like when a magician is like pick a card, any card, they like try to pick one from the butt, like just to fuck up the trick. Yeah, they just take the bow tie off the magician. I mean, I guess I ask you guys, do you guys kind of feel like you can do anything? Almost to a scary degree.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I feel like I can do anything, but also just I think all of us want to go on the coolest adventure. Yeah, and I think we also all like being together. Yeah. I just want to like... I always want to be part of the group and make sure everyone is safe, so that is a good directive to have in terms of like, I'm not gonna be like, I jump off the cliff. Right, yeah. And I guess I can totally imagine people playing like that, but it would not be fun to me. I also never wanna, I know like some,
Starting point is 00:30:15 I don't like people, aren't they're like really annoying like characters or people who are like, just like basically like, what are they called? Murder hobos or something like that? Yeah, murder, murder hobos are people who just ride into town and just kill whoever disagrees with them or is rude to them or anything like that. And they kind of don't do quests and just run into cities
Starting point is 00:30:35 and just it becomes GTA essentially. Yeah. I don't get that. I want to, when I play video games, I want to open every single chest and our noir and drawer that I possibly can. I want to talk to every NPC that I can and that's like how I like to play the Indy-D too. Yeah, I want to know, Murph, is there like one tavern we can go to where if we like find a secret wall there's
Starting point is 00:30:59 like a black void space and there's gonna be a treasure chest there like in Final Fantasy? There are, There are treasures in secret places. I do have plans. I do have plans. It's not, I'm not encouraging you guys to like show up. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. We're finding the treasure.
Starting point is 00:31:18 We're heading back to Lundstone and I'm looking under that druid. Oh shit. I bet you said not a bad treasure. Stone and I'm looking under that druid. Oh shit. You sit down and die. There's always, you know, hints to things like the big things. Right. So you would never, if you, for instance, went into the tab, is a fucking jewel. You guys are what? You guys know what the thing glowing in the, in the Bay is. Yeah, let's go get them. No, it's a, it's a trident. It's like a staff. Let's go get that trident.
Starting point is 00:31:46 We should definitely get that trident. Yeah, we're murderers. This is murder, murder, murder, hobo behavior. Yeah, no, that's not the same. You're just gonna steal the, oh yeah. Well, you turn this into murder hobos.
Starting point is 00:31:55 No, this will be fun. We'll steal it, but then we'll see all the fishermen looking sad and we'll be like, okay, well, I'll come to Jesus moment. Yeah. What if we steal it, then give it to the fisherman?
Starting point is 00:32:04 Oh, they just put it back in the water. The fisherman. Yeah, they steal it, then give it to the fisherman? That's all. And they just put it back in the water. The fisherman? Yeah. They're like, please, we better get from this piece. So this is an example. So this is an example. I'm giving it to them.
Starting point is 00:32:12 What is it I want to do? Ah, so this is a great hero's. This is kind of an example of how people can play in different ways, right? So if you guys showed up to this town and you were like, wait, there's a staff at the bottom of the water, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna try to find it. There's a way that you guys could maybe get down there
Starting point is 00:32:29 and get it, but then you might have to fight Shay or something. Like the druids of the town, you get to do. And then you guys would be bad guys. I just wanna be under her downward dog. I just wanted to go from downward dog to plank, giving me little kisses along the way. Hold on, man. Just see her go through the window. I just wanted to go from Downward Dog to Plank giving me little kisses along the way. Hold on, man. Just see her go through the window.
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Starting point is 00:34:16 creeds on the spot, or do you think of them before and recite them in the story as it fits the list? It's giving me so much credit. No, I like write them out in advance, which is arguably more impressive. I think that's cooler, man. All right, I do. I do like, I try to, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:31 I try to come up with like one or so every couple of episodes, and I do write them out in Google Docs, and then before we start, I write them out on a green note card. So do you remember the green tea's creed? I don't know if I could recite it off the top of my head. A green teen is never
Starting point is 00:34:45 mean something something something. Our something our hearts serene to glean the sheen of a light unseen. There it is. Something like that. You're a better green teen than I am. I'm kind of inspired by that. Now I think that moonshine is going to start referencing uh, quick songs. I know. I just want to I just one to i want to show up here with no cards i think that's my own i want to have a fucking folder he jake maybe your no cards can just have like what your ability maybe he could just use like your actions search one time or your second win i don't know if you have people of potions for me
Starting point is 00:35:21 oh my god one day hard one day perhaps hard one will return to Iron Deep and we'll get to meet all his foster parents and his family and all that. It's so fun that we have like three his first girlfriend. Wait, you're straight up orphaned. You might meet your actual parents someday.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Oh, that's because I was left on the base of the mountain. Do you think that hard one's first girlfriend was a dwarf? I think he's only ever fucked dwarfs. Yo. That's awesome. He's fucked women with beards. Right. I wonder and I like I haven't decided in my head if I like if I guess he's already expressed that your character is hot. So maybe you think that you think a bunch of bunch of I mean that's a fun part about D&Ds. You can think a bunch of different creatures are hot. Druids are hot but nothing's hotter than a dwarf. Yeah, Druids are hot, but their faces are so smooth. It's worse.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It's like a kitchen counter. Hard one just has a buried childhood crush that he can't get over. I love that. That's just a beautiful dwarf one. His first love. The one that broke his heart. I just can't wait for the very awkward dinner that we all have at my house. This is a case where I am actually gonna type out
Starting point is 00:36:27 a hard one's lost, door of love. Okay, I'm so excited. Just messling into like her beard when you're sleeping, yeah. Yeah, our beard's in twine. Oh. Nothing's purer than that. Whoa. It looks beautiful.
Starting point is 00:36:42 New relationship goals. Yeah, Brady, to other's beards. Yeah. Yeah. New relationship goals. Yeah. Brady, to the spirits. Another question from Reddit. Lake Griffey asks, this person asked a few questions, so I'll just do, I'll do a couple of them because one of them is just real quick. A lot of people have actually asked us how we generated our ability scores, whether we did the standard array where we used the preset numbers or if we rolled for them, we rolled for all of that.
Starting point is 00:37:07 We rolled a bunch of dice. We rolled them. We rolled them, but I think the total of the basic numbers that they give you is 72, so I try to make sure it's not too much in either direction. And I remember when Jake first rolled hard one, your total was like 95 or something. It was really high.
Starting point is 00:37:25 You had like, yeah, you had like three, eight teens or something, which is insane. So we literally just took like five points off of... It's an interesting fact. I'm very pissed about. You know that I've been knocked out twice. You would have had like a plus four in wisdom, which would have been insane for hard one. I know. It's good that we took that away, actually. I think ultimately, my character should be dumb
Starting point is 00:37:49 because it's hard for me to play smart without being that. That is true. I actually have never played a character who's like super smart because I just don't even, like the, like the idea of like playing a character who's really well spoken and convincing is just like, oh, I have to roleplay that? I can't do that.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I want to say hard one's not dumb, though, because you're specifically playing a character that's kind of the sensible one. Moonshot and Beverly always want to do crazy stuff. I think that definitely helps from me not knowing too much about the world. So I'm drawing from your story to make decisions. And dwarves are steadfast and stop. Yeah, so it makes sense. I love it.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Second part of Lake Griffey's question was, You like Erigorn with a side of Gimli? Oh, the perfect man. Erigorn with Gimli's beard. It kind of is what's going on here. So I'd ever want. Lake Griffey also asks, what surprised you most
Starting point is 00:38:47 when you played D&D for the first time? Is that for all of us or for Jake? That's for all of you guys, I guess. I'll say the first time I ever played D&D, it's like the very first moment when you're like, when you just say, okay, I do this. And in your mind, you're like,
Starting point is 00:39:04 is anyone gonna stop me from doing this? Like, and you can just do it, is like, that's the moment that, that's the moment that either you get hooked or you aren't into D&D. I think for me, it was when I played D&D and then I drew everyone's character and everyone respected me for having a skill.
Starting point is 00:39:21 That's beautiful. So Jake, your first time ever playing D&D was literally the first episode of this podcast. Yeah. I think a couple things. And he's only getting worse. I feel like I kind of knew I was going to like it. But I did not anticipate like the pure unbridled joy that's associated with it.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It's like a dicting. There was that, there was a night where associated with it. It's like addicting. There was a night where our plan was to play for like two hours or two. Yeah, we were gonna get a session or two in for an episode. And we just like basically played until midnight. And after we were done playing, we were just like downstairs talking about what we're gonna do next time.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah. That was when that night ended, I was kinda like, like one more. Yeah. I mean, we need to do one more. Yeah, I would have done one more. I probably would have done it until the morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 It was a good ass night. We ate cheeseburgers too. It was a great night. Fuck, it was a great night. Every other day sucks. Okay. I think the other thing that surprised me, even though I still don't get a lot of it,
Starting point is 00:40:20 it was surprisingly easy to fall into step, especially playing with you guys since you know what you're doing. Right, I think that, and I've seen a lot of people tweeting about this or posting on the Reddit, people asking how to play, you just have to play. You just kind of pick it up as you go along. And especially as a player, the rules really aren't that complicated, as a cast or a kid, it's a little bit more
Starting point is 00:40:44 difficult. But even as a DM, it's like, yeah, you'll make mistakes and only you will know your mistakes kind of. Right, you just need a basic understanding of the rules. You don't need to... And you listen to everybody listening right now, listen to the show, probably. It's not like a tightly scripted, immaculate. And you're allowed to like, discolour. I'm a poor in line, immaculate. Right. And you're allowed to, I just got what?
Starting point is 00:41:05 You're allowed to discuss things and ask questions. Yeah. Even you guys would play forever. Like what do I add to that or which dice do I roll for that? Yeah. It is. Best description I've heard of it is collective storytelling. So like if you were like, oh, I want a DM, but like I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I don't know all the rules. Yeah. Like you don't have to, you guys, you as a group can kind of make up the rules to a certain extent. There is malleability within the rules. Yeah, you do like house rules a little bit, sure. Yeah, and then I think as a DM, you also learn once you learn the basic rules,
Starting point is 00:41:36 you can kind of apply that to everything. Like when Beverly decided to use the snake fang to stab the frog. You just had to take a second and kind of think, you had to be like, well, this is something I'm gonna have to pull out of my ass. But okay, no, let's think about it. So it's a fang, so it'll work like a dagger.
Starting point is 00:41:52 What's a dagger? It's a D4 plus your modifier. So that's how that works. Plus it would also do probably some poison damage. So I give him a D6 of poison damage. And it's balanced and stuff, called we'll get to feel like he improvised something cool. What you did, what you did, it was cool. It was cool. It was
Starting point is 00:42:09 cool. It was dangerous. Yeah, you bitch slapped someone with that. You did bitch slap somebody with a fang, which is pretty dope. I will say though, that's also one of the fun things about playing is like, maybe it's because I often play with Murrfast my DM. So it's like kind of like my husband. So I have like a bit of like that. A little bit. But it's like fun to throw stuff out here.
Starting point is 00:42:28 I think Koldel also has that. Just from doing you have a book love and stuff together, I think you guys are my rebellious children, and weirdly enough Jake is probably the good boy. No, but he'll get there though. Oh yeah, Jake's gonna join the nasty boys for the work. But that's always the fun part to be like, I wanna do this.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And then seeing the gears work in your head where you're like, okay, well, you'd have to roll. I'll give it to you if you can roll. Like, that's gonna be like a DC 19 bluff check or something like that. Right. Being a DM is absolutely just like being a dad where you have to like bargain with your children.
Starting point is 00:43:04 We're like, if you do your chores, I'll give you this treat. And for us, the treats are like getting to do something cool if we do a good enough role. Yeah, we're very lucky that you're willing to do this. Yeah, it's also, we were talking before about like consequences and everything. And I think kind of the way I think about it is that your players are as badass as like legalists, but they're not bugs bunny. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you can't do completely insane shit that breaks the world and makes it so there's no consequences. But you could ride a shield down some stairs and try
Starting point is 00:43:38 to crash through people. But also, but, I like that loophole, one of the beautiful loopholes in D&D is that like a Nat 20, like bumps you up, it's not like you go from 19 to 20, like a Nat 20 will let you do shit that you normally could not do. Yeah, you do Michael Jordan long arm don't. Yeah, so that's when you get like, I feel like. So it's Michael Jordan in Space Jam. Yeah, well a Nat 20 is like your bug's bunny moment. Yeah, well, and that's 20. I think that's 20 is like your Bugs Bunny moment. No, no.
Starting point is 00:44:06 It's not, obviously you're gonna do something physically, like physically insane that like defied the laws of physics. But I think that like you get to do something that your character couldn't do other. I will say that making a toad fallen love with you is pretty Bugs Bunny. As far as that goes, well, no, well, that's the thing, right? If you were like, I want to seduce this bully walk
Starting point is 00:44:27 and you rolled the 20, that's not gonna work no matter what. Should have done that, yeah. That's not gonna work no matter what. A mating call on the other hand, if you're rolling that 20 on a mating call, then you just did a fucking brilliant mating call and this bully walk thinks that there's another bully walk out in the swamp.
Starting point is 00:44:42 You could get the bully walk to jerk off. You can't get a different one. That's what I'm saying. That's my point is I do feel. You could get the bully walk to jerk off. You can't get a friffy. That's what I'm saying. That's my point is I do feel like you would get the bully walk to jerk off. All right, I'll give you a hand job. I'll give you a hand job, but I'm not gonna blow you. That's exactly how this goes. That's the difference between a 19 and a 20 foot.
Starting point is 00:45:00 But yeah, those were from Lake Griffey. I also wanna thank Lake Griffey because Lake Griffey has been answering people's questions on the Reddit who want to be DMs and stuff. So I think that's very valuable part of this little community that we have so far. I really want to be able to encourage more people to DM. So I really appreciate your work.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Let's see here. Somebody asked, I realize these are now, now I realize these are a lot of DM questions. That's fun. Okay, but we can all kind of talk about it. Somebody said, if when you do another campaign, will you switch up? Who will be the DM? Oh, fuck it, I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Thank you. I have been vaguely interested. However, I have many hobbies and I see the way that being a DM has taken over Merff's life. I don't know that I would have the time for it. I sometimes wonder. I wouldn't call it DMing, but I run a vague campaign for a Drawfee called Drago, which is like a drawing based version of Dungeons and Dragons where instead of rolling dice,
Starting point is 00:46:09 you essentially just draw what you want to do. And I really enjoy doing that. So I could definitely be tempted to try that out, but I also am like Emily and I have a lot going on. So yeah. I would, I mean, obviously no, I could not damper it for a very, very long time, but I will say that it would be very fun to play with you as a person on the wall.
Starting point is 00:46:29 We should do bonus episodes maybe. Hey, we do one of us shots where you guys can have a shot. I would definitely DM a one shot. That'd be fun as well. That'd be super cool. Because that'd be fun to play with, Murph, just like you having papa or your own version of it. Yeah. It is interesting when you're doing something like this because the dynamic would kind of
Starting point is 00:46:50 change completely. Right. And so for us to all play together and let's say that we do a full campaign that lasts a couple of years and everybody gets up to level 20 and there's some big epic boss fight and you guys save the world or whatever. And we've done hundreds of episodes together or something to then completely change it. Yeah, seems kind of crazy. But I think we could also experiment with it. I feel like an interesting question here is,
Starting point is 00:47:20 Merf, you play multiple characters, but you also DM multiple campaigns, which do you prefer? Or is that even, or is that not even, is it not about that? I think I kind of, I prefer DMing, but I feel like it's only really possible to give your heart and soul to like one campaign. Like when I'm DMing, now that I'm DMing this,
Starting point is 00:47:43 our kind of New Jersey crew is suffering. Oh no. Thank God I'm DMing, now that I'm DMing this, our kind of New Jersey crew is suffering. Oh no. Thank God I'm not suffering. Take that New Jersey. Do they know? I, yes, because we haven't been playing as often and also when it's not being recorded, you also don't need to be quite as consistent
Starting point is 00:48:02 so you can be like, I have kind of a general idea of what's going here. And then I can shoot from the hip a bit, whereas when we're all playing together, Moonstone, I know it like the back of my hand. So you guys can say, I wanna go, try to talk to this person, or I wanna go find this or something.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I will have an answer for that, and that's a lot of work to, like know the, this is fun. I wanna ask about Moonstone. Oh yeah, yeah. Is there a brothel in Moonstone? There is not a brothel in Moonstone. Is there an ice cream store? There is not an ice cream store. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:48:31 How many restaurants are there in Moonstone? Yeah, that's a good question. There's not... There's the hungry trout in Intavirin and there is another smaller in... Is there an egg that you can get food at? It's a very, very small village. What kind of food?
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah, do they have coffee? It's mostly phygosomia. They have coffee, yeah. I don't know. We don't get a flat white. Yeah, just go to Michigan or Water-a-team. Water-a-team.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Water-a-team. Water-a-team. No, actually what I asked her if I had her largest beer. Yeah. But yet somebody asked a question that is kind of interesting and perhaps we can all weigh in. Yeah. Somebody said, this is Cult of the Helix Fossil. Great.
Starting point is 00:49:15 My name. Oh. From a little Twitch plays Pokemon Throwback. Said that they're DMing right now. And we've had some issues with characters not getting along. Players work together, but personality types of characters clash, making me worried that one character is going to end up just killing another and ending the campaign without men are gaming too much.
Starting point is 00:49:33 How do you or would you handle infighting among the party? How do you plan to make sure this party stays as a party rather than just disbanding? This is crazy shit. I will say that there was one session for one campaign that me and Merff are in. And the butt Merff does not DM it. And things got tense. And we had to like text each other afterwards
Starting point is 00:49:54 to be like, hey, we're all cool, right? Well, I think that's the key. That's the key, right? It's like talking to the other players. So I would encourage this person, Cult of the Helix Fossil, to talk to your players. You guys don't feel like, do you guys think there's gonna be big tension
Starting point is 00:50:12 with like hard one and? I cannot imagine. I'm not a bad guy. And it really doesn't matter in the future. I cannot imagine a world where any of my D&D characters like doesn't like another. Right. I mean, so much fun to play.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah. I can't quite imagine like sitting here rolling dice and being in a bad mood because somebody's been mean to my human race by dwarfs. Why I think like, I mean again, at the end of the day, it's about telling a story and like any good story needs a little conflict. So I think that that in and of itself can be fun
Starting point is 00:50:44 to like kind of inject that conflict. But yeah, I don't think we're gonna get mad at each other. And I think if you can find a way for that conflict to be fun, it seems like maybe this group is just kind of like road blocking each other a little bit. Yeah, that's what I wonder. I would maybe encourage the DM to kind of reach out to people individually or to try to kind of figure out
Starting point is 00:51:05 like, oh is this person mad because it feels because they feel like they're trying to make a move and then this other person is like real rowing it in which case you could reach out to the other person and be like, you know, like a baby. So DMing life in addition to the yeah. Yeah. Well, kind of the classic D&D problem is the Paladin versus the Rogue, right? Yeah. Because sometimes you have somebody who wants to play and they want to be a hero the classic D&D problem is the Paladin versus the Rogue, right? Right. Yeah. Because sometimes you have somebody who wants to play and they want to be a hero, they want to do the good stuff and they want to conquer all the quests and save people and stuff.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And then you have other people that just want to do whatever they want. So for instance, it could cause infighting if you guys are in that bar in the first episode and you guys are fighting the barbarians and stuff and then somebody in the party is like let's kill Mishka and steal whatever's behind the bar. It's like that's fucked up. I think that would piss me off as a player. Or if one of them tried to smoke weed. Do you have to remind everybody that Erigorn was once a strider, you know? Like he was wandering through Miller alone. That's so true. And he didn't rise to his rightful throne
Starting point is 00:52:14 until he partnered with Legolas and Gimli. Yeah, until he learned how to work as a team. I actually think that that is the net, just to be serious for a second. I think that is a nice thing about D&D is that it does, it kind of like teaches you, it gets you out of the mindset of like, I'm the hero of this story, I'm the main character, and it's like everyone's involved. Communication is good.
Starting point is 00:52:37 The other thing that gets rid of, I'm the hero of this story mindset is being knocked out. Yeah. I like, help me with your potion. I think another solution might be to just like roast those two members in a separate group chat. Oh yeah. Oh my god. That's really good advice though. Just start a group chat with just like the two members who are fighting and be like, hey, like I see I see that tension. Let's talk. We've also had, you know, I think if it plays into the story
Starting point is 00:53:05 and if everybody's having fun, it can be a good thing, but it can't. Absolutely. You don't want to have too much player versus player combat because then you don't want to have. You don't want to have. Then you're not doing anything. And then people can be real cheap asses.
Starting point is 00:53:18 If you guys just decided to kill each other, you guys could just decide while you're camping for a long rest, it's just like hard one tries to chop moonshine's head off. I would never. Oh my god. Even Papa would kill me. Goku and Vegeta were like number one enemies,
Starting point is 00:53:32 and now like they babysit each other's kids. So it's like anything's possible. That's beautiful. Can I get that on a t-shirt, a bumper sticker, some juicy sweatpants? We had all that on the butt.shirt, a bumper sticker, some juicy sweatpants. We had all that on the butt. The entire ass.
Starting point is 00:53:48 We had a fun conflict in one campaign that we played where Emily's character and a few of the other characters got into a bar fight with a dude that they didn't need to get into a bar fight with. They just got no fight with him. He was being rude, but like Han Solo rude, not like the evil rude. He needed to learn a lesson.
Starting point is 00:54:13 That's my close-minded religious clerics. Anyway, they got in a fight with this. It's also huge drunk. This dude, she got in a fight with this dude in this bar and he had all of his friends there. It was like his hangout spot. So him and his friends beat the shit out of the whole party, knocked everyone out, stole all of their stuff
Starting point is 00:54:34 and threw them out into the street. So then one of the characters had to go make a deal with this like evil shadow organization and he essentially had to sell his soul to help get everybody's stuff back. So then that character became evil. So he's an NPC now. So you can kind of turn these conflicts
Starting point is 00:54:54 into ways that the game is still fun. Yeah, without having it be PVP. Problem solving. Yeah, I guess maybe that's the thing. Is like, are they getting mad at each other because their characters are getting mad at each other? In which case, you can work with that, or are they getting mad at each other because they ask people are pissed at each other?
Starting point is 00:55:14 In which case, you're going to have to start that separate group text. Right. Like, if you're playing with somebody who's playing lawful good and they get pissed any time somebody lies or any time somebody drinks or or anytime somebody does something that's rude. That's really annoying. But if you're playing a chaotic neutral and you stab everybody or you just go steal stuff everywhere you get, that's annoying too because then that makes the whole party a bunch of stupid ruffians.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I love that this has turned into like relationship talk. That is cruel love. This is love line for groups of uh, four to seven. I love how, wait, can I just like briefly say I'm looking at how we're all sitting in the room right now and if you took a picture like each of the ways that we're sitting like fully represents how our characters act in the chair. Your posture is perfectly for it towards the neck. I am like sitting in a chair like it's a hammock. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Jake has an axe. That's right. Yeah. This one might be our last question, because I am not going to answer it all, because I don't want to give you guys any kind of spoilers. I just want to hear you guys talk about it. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:56:25 This is from Reddit. User name 456123. That's what I'm saying. That was available. Classic says, so the original three heroes of Bohumia are in hiding. Does that mean it would be possible for hard one, Beverly and Munchan to run into them?
Starting point is 00:56:41 That would be really interesting. I absolutely want to. It's definitely wanna run into them. Yeah would be really interesting. I absolutely want to. Definitely want to run into them. Yeah, yeah, I want to too. I want to have like a Luke Skywalker on Octo moment with the paladin. That's what I was thinking. It's like I'd love to run into them
Starting point is 00:56:55 like almost like beards grown out, like a dissolution look in their eyes, like drinking too much. What if we all met up with like the corresponding heroes and we did like separate training missions with them? No, but I would say being separate and D&D is always really just a whole thing. Oh yeah, it's hard because like you're kind of sitting
Starting point is 00:57:15 around cracking like excellent jokes while they're doing like cool action stuff. And like your jokes are like super good. But you feel like you're missing out. We also like wanna get in there. Yeah. Our characters like probably worship these heroes, right? Like I know that hard one is like super into the dwarf guy. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Was the dwarf guy's name? Oh my god. It's an elf guy who's a fighter. It's like a trying elf guy on his cave wall back home. Dude, he should get an elf guard calf tattoo. That's really cool. You sure you'll do it. Yeah, you have to prick me with something.
Starting point is 00:57:45 What was the tattoo that I was gonna get? Opa, Aladdin's tattoo. Oh, maybe next episode I should get the tattoo. Yeah, you should be a tattoo, a tattoo, a tattoo, I think Beverly definitely has like an action figure of the Paladin character. You mean the cleric? Oh yeah, the cleric.
Starting point is 00:58:01 It's a cleric, that's theala. Yeah. Then there's Ulfgar, that's the door fighter, and's a clairex, that's the aula. Yeah. Then there's alfgar, that's the dwarf fighter, and then there's alonis, who is the elf wizard. It's definitely closer to a Barbie doll, but he likes it anyway. Truthfully, I don't think moonshine would idolize any of them,
Starting point is 00:58:16 but I think it's just out of ignorance. I think she just hasn't been exposed to them unless she's been living in that insular creek until it went amiss, and then had to wander out of it. Yeah, I can't wait for us all to go to the creek someday. I'll be too. After all, we've heard about the creek,
Starting point is 00:58:34 amazing hospitality. But what's in this? What's going on at the creek? I want us to go there and it's like a wet and wild theme park. It was never actually a creek. It's very built up. It's just like a wizard cast an illusion of a creek and we've all been worshipping it and bathing in it daily.
Starting point is 00:58:57 That's why we smell like shicks. We think we're bathing in water, but it's just a deserts illusion. It's calling with pop-os. This is a possum infestation. It's isn't a crick. It's a little possum hive. Cool guys, those are all the questions I have prepped.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Were there anything? Uh oh, the only thing that somebody, I don't have the name ready, but somebody asked like what merit badges I have and I have been keeping a tally. Really? Oh, this is great. I have a list. I don't have it with me, but I would like to give this opportunity for the group to decide which merit badges
Starting point is 00:59:31 I have that I haven't mentioned yet. Are there any merit badges? The only one that I was thinking of is I like giving Beverly merit badges that seem cool at first, but are actually super lame. So I don't know how to play the violin, but I have super lame. So like I don't know how to play the violin, but I have violin appreciation. So just like, that's really funny. Yeah, just like, knowledge of things, but not
Starting point is 00:59:54 not any application. Yeah. Like that a lot. I feel like is there, I mean you were, were you an Eagle Scout? Yeah. So before, oh, there's some really lame words. Yeah, like you have maps drawing, but not maps reading. Yeah, definitely cartography, but definitely not navigation. Yeah. I'm trying to think about the- Like fire putting out, but not starting.
Starting point is 01:00:16 100%. I had a badge called emergency preparedness, which was just like, it was not how to administer like first aid or anything. It was just like, how to identify that someone's having a heart attack, not how to fix it. I'm really good at crowd nine, one, one. I would say Beverly would definitely have some kind of manners badge or something.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Oh yeah, like an etiquette badge for sure. Maybe like you tense the identification. I feel like I've got like a whole section of my sash for that. Yeah, like you know how to cut and prepare like a game. Yeah. Like a whole bunch of dress. You don't know how to kill any of it? No, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Certainly not. Or cook it. Because you don't have your cooking that, but you can carve it very, very evenly. I think there's like- That's so funny if you know how to carve a cooked bird, but you don't have to cook it. I don't know how to build the trap.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I think that there's like a whole section. I think there's probably like sections that are required to like move up in the ranks. And one of them is just called little gentlemen. Yeah. That'd be kind of fun if you just had an emotional openness one. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:01:22 So that like a vulnerability badge or something like that, just because it'd be fun for you to be like, look, I know how to do this. I have this badge. It's also very fun. Anytime I do something sincere for me to just instantly like put a little booklet in your face and be like, that was actually just requirements
Starting point is 01:01:40 for this badge. Is there, do you have a badge that you are hoping for? Is there like one badge that you want more than anything? The cooking badge, as we mentioned, I do not have the cooking badge. I hope you really suck at it for a while. I hope you're really funny. If you're like this badass who's like just
Starting point is 01:01:57 felling creatures and you can't get your cooking badge. It's a decapitating shit. I also loved that. We were talking about how, because, you know, in the players manual and stuff, and you get to choose your subclass at level three, and then you'll be able to talk to animals. And I was like, well, you'll probably become
Starting point is 01:02:16 a junior at Green Night once you can talk to animals. And your response was very funny, which is like, yeah, I think I need my animal relations badge. Animal relations badge is so funny to call it animal. It just sounds like you're fucking animals. That's the only one I made in call right there. To me, it sounds like you're booking a trip for an animal. God, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Once I get that skill, I'm gonna be so much better at mating calls. Ooh. There is gonna be such an uptake in shenanigans. Once we've ever, we can speak to fucking animals. Oh man. That's gonna be even though you're this powerful palate in every single Beverly turn is gonna be like, um, can I do a perception check if there are
Starting point is 01:02:53 any animals around? That is my shit. That really wants to talk to a worm. Yeah, I'm gonna be like, I don't know, I guess there's a worm. Cool, I talk to the worm. Yeah, it's gonna be like, are there any beetles about? Yeah, it's gonna be like, oh there are any beetles
Starting point is 01:03:05 about. Yeah, I just, in addition to mapping out the NPCs in the town, I need to think of every bug that that really might speak to. Oh, yeah. That's a ladybug. You know the bodies. Wait, and I'm gonna be able to speak to animals too. Oh, man. Wow, we're gonna have a real fucking zoo of a time. That's gonna be great. Because you guys are gonna have to translate for hard one. Because I'm also gonna wanna talk to the animals. Yep.
Starting point is 01:03:32 We're gonna have so many inside jokes. It's gonna be great. I know it's gonna definitely be laughing like he understood as well. Oh, that horse is funny. I know. Huh? Yep, I can also understand that horse.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I just needed to speak a little louder. What did the horse say? Oh, I know who your parents are hard one Say something about me. No, no, no, that'd be really funny. He was like hard one That's you made my fucking name that time guys He made my fucking name that time, guys. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha bonus episodes and stuff or thing about doing, but we appreciate all your questions. We're gonna go on the Reddit, are not another D&D podcast, and we will answer more questions, anything we didn't get to. Yeah, baby. That's right, and if you leave another review
Starting point is 01:04:33 with the five stars, we'll give you the shout out. Oh yeah, we'll give you the shout out next episode. We already had a bunch at the end of this last episode. Those are fun. They are fun. They are fun. You guys did a great job. They were very funny.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Thank you. It's just like a chance to write in another person's voice. They are fun. They are fun. You guys did a great job. They were very funny. Thank you. It's just like a chance to write in another person's voice. Oh, beautiful. There were also a lot of people asking about, you know, I know we had a bunch of DM questions and stuff here, but they were even more asking how to play and how they can find people to play with and everything. And I would love to, you know, I don't know, maybe even once a week or something, I can do like and
Starting point is 01:05:05 ask me anything or whatever and we can talk about DMing and stuff because it's been super cool seeing people like, you know, we had one person send us a picture of them. I'll leave the player's handbook. I'll let that say. I think their name was K said and read it. Just like, after I've never played, they listen to the podcast and now they wanna start it again. Yeah, it seems there's so many, there's so many of those people on the subreddit,
Starting point is 01:05:29 you guys should play together. Like, we're happy to kind of help facilitate that. It's also just a super fun way to hang out with your friends. Yeah, yeah. We have multiple groups that we just go to cabins, play forever, it's just a great way to hang out with friends too. Right, but we also play on Skype
Starting point is 01:05:44 with our friends across the country. I'm the Jersey people. So if you guys, you know, on the subreddit, are interested in playing, maybe I'll set up a thread or something where we can have volunteer DMs or people can also learn how to DM. It's not as hard as it seems. You just have to read one book.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And also, if everybody is learning together, then everybody's patient. And if it's, you's, I think this community and this fandom and stuff will be cool, nice people. Yeah, that's honnive. They better be. What we hope to facilitate. So let's get some more DMs
Starting point is 01:06:16 and let's get some not another D&D podcast games going people. Yeah. Thank you for listening. Yes, thank you for listening. Thank you for all the questions and thank you David sent me a DM screen. Oh, yeah, oh David. Thank you
Starting point is 01:06:31 That was so dope. I have the regular 5v DM screen which has so much useless information on it David sent me a new ones and now I got lots of pertinent pertinent shit If you want to send us stuff you can do it at 1920 Hillhurst Avenue, number 222, Los Feliz, California, 92007. If you send us miniatures, I'll paint them because I have a painting. I ordered my miniature side. I know.
Starting point is 01:06:55 That was a group text where Jake kept sending a picture of this miniature. He designed and he's like, I'm so tempted. I'm so tempted. And I was like, by the way, I have miniature painting set, you could paint it and he was like, ordering it so fast. I did order it instantly. Yeah, guys, but check out our other projects. Emily and I have a book out,
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Starting point is 01:07:35 Right, yeah, the more attention this gets, the more people that listen to this, the more episodes will do, the more bonus episodes will do. Yeah. No, but Jake has a great point, which is like, if you're like, oh, really want to play D&D But I don't know anyone who knows it just have them listen to this and then we convinced you we might convince your Then you can then if all your friends get into it then you book a fucking cabin and you're like let's give this a fucking world
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Starting point is 01:08:18 we'll have them check out. Yes, I'll contact you, I won't put it on there without permission, of course. Cool, thanks guys, thanks so much for listening. May the Bobbi Yug Yagan take you this night, may the Baha'am keep you. God bless. That was a hit gun podcast.

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