Not Another D&D Podcast - D&D Court: Alignment Issues, Strict Spell Components and a Bad Case of Trap Amnesia

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

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And of course the return of the lowly lowly Really? Really? Someone say he's really status. He's like, gone. Baylor, Jake, welcome back. Thanks for having me, I guess. Yeah. The warm welcome.

I really appreciate it. You're not getting no respect in my house either. Well, you think that. You're not getting this court. The kids grown up, she's out of the house now. You're good to go, you're back. If you can come a little closer so that I can puke on you. Because I know that you're used to that now

and I feel like a reminder to your station. Oh, that's my favorite thing. That means her stomach doesn't hurt anymore. You know that actually. And you know the heroic's does do not know how to burp. Oh, we don't. Oh, I never thought of that. Oh, it's just 24-7.

Tell me troubles. I'm doing everything I can to make her Constitution jills and not mine. Right? That was a fun discovery this past week. I was at the beach with Susan Sid inherited my son-tanding ability, not Susan's. Oh, nice. Yeah. Good. It's really fun to see how the genetics play out, Jake. I know the boat that you are in. And it was a nice discovery because Sue's went to the beach and now she has a rash on her leg.

There you go. Oh my God. I'll toss her in the sun today and see how it goes. Yeah. Give her some shrimp, toss her in the sun. You really gotta test out those allergies, man. All right, with that, let's throw to the bail of Jake. Oh my God, it gives me great pleasure

to be back. And to say, it gives me great pleasure to be back and to say, here you here you crit is back in session. Yes! Please, it's the court. The honorable Supreme Crit Justice, is Axford Murphy and Tanner are presiding. Our first case today comes from Spencer C. Spencer writes, greetings, magnanimous judges.

Oh Jake, didn't see you there. Could you hang up my coat? I told you. I got no respect. I'll have to do a great start. It's like they got the memo. They'll be doing any tie breakers. My friends and I were joining a pre-existing campaign in our first ever D&D campaign.

The group had already started Tomb of Annihilation and we rolled in as they reached the island of Chalt. As we explored Port Nayan Zaru, we stopped at a crowd to watch executioners run where criminals race through a dinosaur pit trying to win their freedom. Okay, fun, I love this. This is very fun.

My character, a lever, hmm, fun. No. No. You laughed at it, that's it. Look, no one can just gave was so funny that now he's saying it. He was gonna let it slip and then that no was too funny. You fucked yourself. My lever for fighter named Jan Eator thought this was a good distraction and tried to pick someone's pocket.

When the DM asked why I would do that, I responded, my character is chaotic neutral and it sounds fun. He grunted, that's not what chaotic neutral means, but I rolled slight of hand and was noticed. When the guards came over to arrest me, I cast thundership to give myself some room to escape. When the DM asked why I would do that, I responded, my character is chaotic neutral and it sounds fun. Again, KMD, that's not what chaotic neutral means. After myself knocked a few of them down,

the DM narrated that more guards came and this has sparded me into the executioner's run pit where I was promptly torn apart by velociraptors. Okay, I was about to be like, oh, that's a fun direction. I think there's no heroes in this story, there's no heroes in this story. There's no heroes in this story. We were only 30 minutes in.

I had to sit there for three more hours. Where everywhere else finished the session. I think you're five. You should have gone home. Your DM didn't like your five. You should have gone and done the dishes. Yeah, go on, go on, thanks, Eric. I humbly ask you, was I wrong to explore my chaotic nature

with the DM a dino sore choice for entry into the TV? Okay, I think you are a match made in hell. Right off the bat, I wish you had left alignment stuff out of it. I would feel more sympathy if you said, it just seems fun. Yeah, and didn't say a lot of that. Yeah, it's here's that it is a famous, like, that guy at the table thing to be like, I'm chaotic neutral,

that's what my character would do. That's an extra, like, just the rogue that steals everything, that's like a murder hobo and everything, that's like a thing. That's like kind of a no-no in D&D. At first, I'm kind of like knee jerk. This sounds like maybe not the vibe that I would wanna run.

And also your character is in a situation where they're watching prisoners run for their lives. If you get caught stealing, these people are clearly not nice. Prisoners are probably in jail for stealers. Exactly, like these people are not kind to people apparently. Oh yeah, that's a really good call.

However, however, I will say that even though there are no heroes in the story, that means the DM is also not a hero, because I do think them saying that's not what chaotic neutral is. Is it really true? It is kind of what chaotic neutral is. Yeah, you're looking up for yourself, right? You just kind of whatever, yeah.

I don't under, I will say this till the day I die, I don't understand alignment, guys. I don't think anyone else does either. It's your turn. I think everyone's talking. I think alignment is like wine. Everyone's pretending like they get it. Yeah, yeah.

Put that on a freaking bumper sticker. Yeah, dude. And put it on the front windshield. Yeah. So I feel like if neither of you had talked about alignment stuff, you wouldn't have had this weird. No, I'm actually right. Not only is my choice fun, it's actually correct.

The moves weren't that egregious to me either. Like it's not like you tried to shove a watcher into the dino pit. Like you tried to pick a pocket and you tried to shove some guards down to run away. It's got to be the name Jan Eator, right? Like that's not helping. It's not helping. Yeah. What is that?

Janitor. Janitor. Janitor. Oh, Jan and J-A-N. Right. Yeah. It's spelled J-A-N-I-T-O. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I love the name, y'all. It sounds. Yeah, I don't know that you're wrong. I don't know that you're wrong.

It's not like you're picking a pocket in a public square. You're picking a pocket at all watching prisoners run. Yeah, you're watching. Yeah, so you're in a punitive place. There's got to be some other energy going into this. That's not like, oh, I want to pick this pocket, it seems fun. Like, you have to be bringing something.

I do agree with that, but here's what I will say. This is why the DM is also not a hero. It sounds like they just cut scene through the player into the pit or whatever. It's like, if you fail. They release this sparded, that's what you do. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. If somebody tries to pick a pocket

and then has to burn a third level spell to thundersep out of there, that to me is just like, cool. If you really want to push the fact that this is like, they've got a crazy military force in the city or something like that and they don't tolerate anything, run the combat properly. Have the guards doing dash actions after this person.

Yeah, have them looking for them. Just the idea of being like, well, they thundered stepped out of there and then he just had some guards eat me back into the like, um, that's true. Raptor, pitter it or whatever. You can't, like, that's, that's bullshit. The DM clearly, like, was looking for blood. They wanted to push this player. Yeah.

Well, they didn't want, they didn't want that chaotic neutral row at the table. I think they wouldn't have gone so hard push this player. Well, they didn't want that chaotic neutral row at the table. I think they wouldn't have gone so hard after this person. If they hadn't said, I'm chaotic neutral, it's what my character do. And if they had just said, it just seems kind of fun. Can I try and pick back at someone? Exactly.

I mean, I've been at many tables where people have doubled down on stupid ideas. Yeah. And I'm all for it. I think it's fun. I love seeing that the DM kind of like bite their lip a little bit and kind of behind the table trying to figure out how to handle that situation. But clearly this DM was not having it. And you should have picked up on a few cues there,

but you certainly didn't. Right. Yeah, you know what else this person is saying? They're friends, like them and their friends were joining a pre-existing campaign. So this team does need to like lay down the law and establish something like really early on. Like, do not fuck with me. So like, they obviously killed Yani's door to like make an example of them. So everyone else fell in line. Reading between the lines here, it does sound like the equivalent of like, if it was our game or something, and then we had a guest on, and it was like some kind of, some moment that was gonna be kind of scary

or something like that, and so much just like, I steal stuff, I steal stuff, I want to steal stuff. And you're just like, okay. Yeah, be like, kind of if we threw you go into like every episode or something. I just feel like I kill you though. Also though, only a mere can play you. Yeah, I would trust this single other person I know to make that work. Yeah, it though. Also though only a mere can play a huge role. Yeah, sure. I would entrust a single other person I know

to make that work. Yeah. Yeah. It helps that he doesn't know how to play or what to do. That's what makes him a master. He's playing the piano blindfolded. It's also honestly like you guys are saying, you guys are right, it's not a big deal

to just have somebody steal. It's not even, to me, it's just so reminiscent about that type of player that when somebody is like, I go and pick pocket every NPC I see, I'm chaotic neutral, that's what my character would do. That's like three red flags to me in three senses in the first half hour that you've sat down at this table. Yeah, so I am like, I'm sorry, I can't trust you.

I can't trust you. I can't trust you But I will say just looking at the facts here. I think that the DM did do you dirty? There were better ways to handle this. Yeah, I respect that you continue to chill for the three hours I was gonna say you were emotionally supportive to the players that remain you sat there for three hours Yeah, that's contrition. I feel like you served your time. You served your sentence. I think because of the alignment thing, I think I would say you were in the wrong,

but you kind of served your sentence. Yeah, three hours in silence at somebody else's D&D table, while your friends get accepted into the group. Just pulling out your Nintendo Switch, you'd be like, ffff, that's just how I play. That into the group. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha So that gives, that gives like an almost interesting take. It's called the Tomb of a Nile Lace. She's a Nile Lace in a Nier like. These prisoners are running for their lives. And you're like, what's up my name's Jander?

I pick pocket a wallet, this Roman Gladiator. And then I try to run away. The DM, if they wanna, you know, have your character face consequences, you gotta do that shit by the book. There's a million ways. It could have been like, I roll, you thundersstep. Where are you going?

I'm gonna go over to this area. Okay, do a perception check before you do and see if that area is safe. Let's go ahead and roll and see if there's any dudes there. Run a chase scene. Dude, yeah, they could have let one of the Velocircums lose after. It could have been cool. It could have been cool.

Yeah, there's no reason that, there's no reason to cut scene kill you. So even though, yeah. Or even if they just had you join the run, but genuinely let you try to roll to you. Yeah, just like that. That would be kind of fun. I think there are again, there are no heroes in this story. I have to choose the lesser of two evils and you are the lesser of two evils.

You should have at least gotten a third chance to say, that's what K out of neutral is. Yeah, once you've understepped out of there, you burning a third level spell, I think, is enough to be like, okay, that's the punishment, is you had to burn a third level spell, just to not get the two silver you would have gotten. You should have gotten a third chance to be a dick and then get kicked out.

I will say that it does sound like everything worked out though because I don't think you all would have had fun together. That's how it sounds to me. Yeah. So we're on your side. We do have to punish this DM and that I think the punishment is that we need to resurrect janitor. Oh, yes.

It needs to deal with janitor. Wait, but what if when we resurrect janitor, janitor's had an alignment change? Oh, interesting. And they're a Velociraptor now. Yeah. They're a lawful evil. A lawful evil. A lawful evil. A lawful raptor. A lawful raptor. A lawful raptor, yeah. A lawful raptor. A lawful raptor. A lawful raptor.

They give away Velocir. Yeah. That's so generous. So generous, so order. Yani Tor is a filafel raptor. It's good to be back. Yani, you do. Our next case comes from Bliss, the Crick Miss. I'd like to present the case of a withered vine versus fairy. During the break between sessions, our DM message

does to tell us we leveled up during the previous session. This was critical since we were totally effed, and almost certain TPK, party split, failed stealth, basically everything went wrong. Between sessions, I came up with a baller plan to save us. I took wither and bloom as my new spell to heal my past out friend. And I used my chronology magic,

alafia bonkiniya, But when I tried to use it during combat to heal my party member, the DM ruled that I didn't have the necessary spell components to cast the spell because I didn't have a withered vine twisted into a loop in my inventory. Oh, that's bullshit. And I hadn't had time to gather the material components of the spell, so I wouldn't be able to cast it. Then the DM narrated the other half of our split party winning their insane battle and traveling across the map to save our sorry doomed behinds between rounds. Is there justice for my cool plan or should I have been foiled by the withered fine? I guess it really depends on how much of a stickler your DM is about components

at every other time. Well, I think so both Murf and Brennan are not sticklers about spell components except for like steeper costs, like rivivifies and stuff like that, which I think is a totally fair way to play. I also think it is hypothetically fun to play with spell components.

However, a withered vine feels like something that you could so easily have. Oh, that's a short rest, baby. Yeah. Also, I feel like the purpose of these low-cost spell components and everything, characters would be out of game essentially, collecting these things as they go in no way. Yeah, that's coming up. Does any DM want their characters to be like, wait one second, I need to crawl on the floor of the floor.

Yeah, I think I'm going to find out. We did have a question from someone who was like, I DM for a group and they do want spell components to be an aspect and I was like, that's really cool. But that's kind of like more of a group decision. And there are certain spell components that I think beyond the revive diamonds

that I think I could see a DM being like, no, no, we actually do want this to be important. It just think a withered vine is not it. To me, that's purely for flavor. That's so that you can look at your spell and be like, okay, I have this. This is how I'm going to like narrate casting a spell. This is just like something to give me like a little more of a view into the mind of a wizard. I think that that's like totally inadmissible. This is making me want to look up a list of different spell components so I can say like which ones It would actually make sense to make have stakes and which ones like a withered fucking vine that you could maybe just find at your fucking feet. Yeah, I feel like like most of the spell components

that are hard to get are just, it's just cost. And it's just so you don't make a simulate from 50 tons. Cost of our rarity. Yeah. But it's stuff like, I think one of them is like, you know, a twist of black licorice or something like that. It's just like, okay, just get that.

You just go to the movie theater. Yeah. You just go to the AMC. You can get four inch for spell components at the movie theater. I need an empty popcorn tub. I need one mic and one ike. I need a Coca-Cola with just a dash of cherry coke in there.

I need a Batman 1989 collector's cup. Wouldn't a wizard just kind of like have all of these things and like a wizard spell component starter kit, like even if they don't know the spell yet. So that's my point is that I feel like that's almost a given that a character would be collecting these things as they go along. Unless, again, unless that's part of your game. There are some that are a little, so my point is like witherdvine is like so like in nature. But there are some like alarm needs a tiny bell. And I would be okay with a DM being like, we gotta get you that tiny bell.

We gotta get you that tiny bell. But I think it's all or nothing, right? It's like with these like common cheap spell items that like characters could just get pretty quickly. Either be a stickler about it or don't be a stickler. Yeah. I think that it kind of sucks to just have it be like. I also don't mind like, bless. Yeah. I think that it kind of sucks to just have it be like... I also don't mind, like,

bless is sprinkling of holy water. That makes sense to me that you would need to find that, whereas Beast Bond is bit of fur wrapped in cloth. Again, that just feels like something that if you've been walking through before us, you can find that. Hair is fur. Just pull out your own hair.

You're wrapping in your t-shirts. You're good. That's our next D&D case. I tried to use my own hair as fur and as well. I tried to use my pubes. But I am chaotic neutral. Well, I was chaotic neutral. That's what my character do is rip his pubes out.

So my question is, is hair pubes, is pubes fur? Is fur, is pubes fur? Like false life is small amount of alcohol or distilled spirits. I would say easy. You just have that. You just have that. That's so you bit with it. But ultimately it just comes down to, is this something that happens in the game?

Yeah. Every time you cast a spell, you've got to watch your DM like a hawk. That's what you have to do. To know if you were actually wrong, do you have to watch your DM like a hawk for the rest of your campaign? My big takeaway here is that we should all start carrying tiny bells and just like whenever somebody says something funny or like something that you like, just give a little thumbs up in real life.

Give a little ringo ding. Oh, no, didn't they? That ruined the College Humber camping trip one year. There was like a joke bell. Oh my gosh. That was terrible. There was a joke bell. Every time somebody made a good joke,

somebody would hit up the bell. It was like a concierge bell though, and it was like, yeah, it was in the middle of the table, and we were all hanging out and making jokes. I have nothing to do with the jokes, though. It was so, it barely was very, very stressful. No one liked it. Yeah. No, I'm talking about a bell just for your bros, for when they like do something good.

You're just like, hey, great work. It's kind of like slapping somebody on the back, doing a high five. It's like a long distance high five. Right. It sounds nice and theory, but then I start I start wondering why that bell isn't being wrong You know, I bring you a coffee and you don't ring the bell What no bell ring. Yeah, no bell ring for that. It's not okay. I start to need it. Now. I don't want that Sure, that's right. I gotta say I'm looking through spell components and they're super fun I'm

My next character being really spell- You're really into spell components. Yeah. Or even sanctuary requires a small silver mirror. I think anything natural or ubiquitous, you're like, you just have that. But if you want to do spell components, like there are some.

Yeah, like a campaign being like a scavenger hunt in a way would be cool, especially if there's something like a spell that really needs to be cast and we need a certain component. I could get into that. Tasha's caustic brew, a bit of rotten food. Who doesn't have that? Easy.

It's just that. I have it all the time. Yeah, I got some of that in my fridge. Got some old green beans. I'm just picturing like the party that is following spell components so closely and they've all just got massive Jansports. They've just got like huge backpacks,

full of Spell Components. Every monster is hearing them 200 feet away, because they're jangling, they've got so many little fucking bells, they've got little mirrors rattling around in their pockets. Yeah, I'm just saying. But that I love that, though. I love, I feel like that's, so, okay,

tensors floating disc, a drop of mercury. Okay, that's, yeah. That's not everywhere. a drop of mercury. Okay, that's not everywhere. You got a lot of that. I know that's not everywhere, but. That's my point is that the withered vine is not the one to rust a little bit. But I guess what I'm saying is, if your character is a wizard and you're learning these spells

or whatever, I think common sense would say that your character knows what they're gonna get next level or whatever. And they're studying these things like this This is making me really want to do more I really want to do a game show for us where I list the spell components and you try and guess this spell Okay, because they're so funny do it do it do it. I'll do one round. Okay one round. This everybody get your little belt ready Impossible a piece of string and a bit of wood.

What the fuck? A piece of string. Tingling, lilling, mindsliver. What? No, incorrect. Okay, a piece of string and a piece of wood. In a bit of wood. And a piece of string and a bit of wood.

All right. Does the soul in the body good? I'll say that's good. Is rope trick? Is rope trick this bill? That's not good guess, it is incorrect. I'll say tree shite. All right.

You didn't ring your bell, Jake. The correct answer makes no sense. It's unseen servant. Okay. Yeah, no it's dumb. Oh, like a puppet. Like a puppet. Like a marionette.

Like a puppet. Yeah. You know how I do this like a piece of wood? And now I like a marina. Just like, you know how I do? Just like a piece of wood. And now I love this game show. I'm trying. And now I love the game show. Let's see if we can get a single one right. Let's do it.

I want another. Yeah. See, it's fun. It is very fun, I love it. I'm just frustrated. I just, I think I just want to prove that this is dumb than as much as I, so if you don't get one right, you win. I love Perv's jeopardy act, so do we just freak out? right, you win. I love curves, jeopardy, actually.

So do we just freak out? Okay. This one has four spellings. Okay, okay, that'll be more helpful, honestly. Yeah? Number one, bat fur. Bat fur, okay. Number two, drop of pitch.

Number three, piece of coal. Number four, piece of dried carrot. Fuck, what is the one that gives you dark vision? Is it your dark vision? You're so fucking close. It's not dark vision. Is it something with sound then with a bass? Is it silence?

No. Darkness? It's darkness. That was good. That was good. That was good. Why the carrot? Why the carrot?

Great question. This is really interesting because number got one right, and now do you still think it's done? Or do you think it's pretty cool? I am proud of myself for sort of getting it right. Wait, it's like I messed up. I messed up the pinch of, I just read dark at the beginning of them, the pinch of dried carrot is actually

for dark vision. Oh, then it's in the beta-carotene, yeah. It was actually just piece of coal, bat fur, and drop of pitch for darkness. And then dark vision is pinch of dried keratin and agate. See, I would have gotten it a while ago, Matt. That was, yeah. You were correct.

Because the keratin improves your vision. Yeah. It's all checked out, Matt. Okay. Okay. Kind of a good game show for you. Kind of a good game show for you, but I'm not gonna dry. Oh, the punishment is they have to host this game show. Yeah. good game show. I'm a good game show. I'm not gonna try it. Oh, the punishment is they have to host this game show.

Yeah. This game show is not gonna be- Yeah, I want to watch this game show. So that's what it is. That's impressive, because Jane Lynch auditioned. I love the idea of us doing this game show with Emily as the host and me as the Starkon testin' who hates the show.

Because I do think I would walk, I think I would fucking walk you guys for sure. By amount of words read in your handbook alone, your miles beyond us. Because I mostly play for Brennan and Murph. I don't even, I read my spells, I never look at the components. I don't look at that, it's a blur to me. I don't even look at it. Merfs podium is the only one that's destructible. Yeah, God. Fuck.

I do kind of love this game show. We'll do another one later. We'll do another one later. Who is the like the star jeopardy contestant? Ken Jennings. Okay, so you'd be the anti-Ken Jennings. Anti-Ken Jennings. Okay, so after, okay, so we have to start ruling on this because we do have to rule on this. I've got what we were talking about.

We're really going to be. So it was the dried vine thing. The withered vine. I'm ruling against your DM because withered vine is so ubiquitous in nature. I just feel like honestly, if you wear like, if you accidentally wear like too fuzzy of socks or something, you might just have a withered vine clinging to you from walking through the forest. Yeah, well, it's gotta be twisted into a small new sink. Right, it's what it says. But that's easy enough to do.

You can do that easily. Yeah, with the info that we have. I do that with the cherry on my mouth. With the info that we have. That's hot. With the sauce. So hot, super hot. It's super hot.

It's so sexy. It's so sexy. Really hot. Everyone should fuck up. With the information, with the information that we the information can you do it now The Respect to the goddamn champion It's so hot. It's a fucking hot.

I want to give him the highlights, but I'm too tired on. I know. He died in the hottest way possible. I was trying to do a sheepshake. OK, with the information we have right here, since this person is shocked that they needed to prove that they had the spell components, that would suggest to me that that is not the game

they've been playing. Yeah, that would do. So with that information, I'm going to side with the player. However, if we heard from the DM and the DMs, like, yeah, they've always had to forge for this stuff. They've always had to do this stuff. I would flip my vote. So tentatively on your side, I hope I can trust you.

You make me look like a dummy if I can't, okay? You're gonna make him flip his podium. You're gonna make me flip the podium. We know I'm on edge right now because I'm the champion of a game show. I don't play it. But I'm kind of addicted to the idea that I might get another question right. And so I do want to keep playing. My name is Perf and I hate this game. But God so I do want to keep playing my name is We're gonna hate this game. God

I'm decent at it Good god damn what occurs to be good at something you don't like yeah The only a dendam I would make here is that I feel like the DM was being too hard and it's very easy to just be like okay Roll me a history save to see if you remembered to start. Oh, yeah, yeah, do like a wisdom save something. Wisdom save with advantage. I have like a relationship. That's a fun suggestion called well.

Yeah, that's a good, that's a good in the middle saying. Yeah, that's what the DM should have done, but they didn't in the wrong. Yeah, so we're punishing this DM to host, name that's brown. Hey, good, good, good, good. Oh, oh! That's brown! Oh, awesome! Now let's call it spelling bee and make it very confusing. Oh, this is spelled yeah.

Spelling bee because bees are probably a component of some kind. Probably, yeah. But it's just called spelling bee. Yeah, spelling bee. Name that spelling bee. Oh wow. This is not good. No, no.

We need to, we'll workshop this as well. I think this DM's punishment is, like I forget who said this before, but just you raising your hand every single time you cast a spell, asking if you have those components. Yeah, it's constantly just being like, can I look for some liquor a year? Can I find a penny?

Can I go look for a piece of hair? I was gonna say, yeah. Just like starting to really, like your DM has to narrate from now on all the procurement and foraging of all spell commands. I need first, I am gonna shave this dead bug bear. And I am gonna take my time. I do need to take a detour to hunt down a bugbearer,

so I love your story, interesting and where it's going, but I am gonna need three episodes to find and see in a bugbearer. It just what my character would do. Yeah, I'm gonna have to crawl, so it's gonna take me a minute, because I need to look for stuff on the ground.

Give me tasted their component, heavy medicine. Yeah. Do you guys wonder hearing this story if this DM was excited about the prospect of team two saving team one? I think they were at fault. I think that was the reason for it. I think they had a cool idea in their head. And sometimes the cool idea in your head isn't as cool as the one that organically comes up with a table. So the fact that your players are so invested in the game that away from table time, they're like coming up

with a plan and they show up and they have a cool thing to do. It's so silly to me to punish that. I would understand honestly more. I would, I think, be more on this DM side if they were like, yeah, one of the characters died because we didn't have the components. Because then it was like, yeah, one of the characters died. Because we didn't have the components. Because then it was like, okay, the DM wanted to make

this a deadly encounter and then realized that them having new spells was gonna completely take away stakes. I still think that's not great, but I think they're like, having them get saved anyway just by a different party and just undoing their spells is silly. And why level them up? If I have a suggestion of a punishment. This DM, because presumably all adventuring groups are doing a decent amount of camping.

This DM has to go camping and tell me they don't come home covered in little bits of nature. Yeah. I feel like every time you go for a hike Little bits of nature cling to you. Oh, you're gonna the second you break down that 10 Yeah, it's gonna have bits of women. Well much like a dog. M does grab interesting sticks and put them in our car Of course and then they find me Embrings and interesting sticks So this DM is going on a walk through the woods,

and then we're gonna hit them with a lint roller. In Velcro, yeah. If you find one fucking piece of queen Anne's lace, you're done. And queen your toes. Yeah, dude. We're gonna have called while Ty you into not in a nice. I don't want to.

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Okay, our next case comes from Dylan R. Dylan writes to the magnanimous justices and the freshly new dad Jim, not quite, but I appreciate that. That's so sweet. Wait, what is your name? It's not Jim. Yeah, what it's James. Oh, James James.

Yeah, your daughter calls you a Jim. Yeah, she speaks seven weeks old Jim. She learned to disrespect me early. I ask as a part of an issue my party had with, let's call it, trap dementia. Our party is in a dungeon where we are about midway through, where we have just finished going through two traps, one which was a hallway where if you were not standing in the correct spots, you were zapped with lightning. And the other, which was even simpler, a fountain that if you stood next to it for a full round, it would attack you with the statue.

We got through this part and found a room where we could rest, so we did a long rest. The next adventuring day, we had to eventually go back through there, and the DM instead of hand-waving it since we found the solution for letting us do the correct motions to get through safely, had all of us do intelligent saves, and if you fail, we somehow triggered the trap. And in my case, I went down from 89 HP to 11 due to being critted on since I rolled in that one. The other players were fine with this, as no PC is smart in our party, but it just feels rude.

Am I correct in being outraged and allowed to complain louder about this, or is the DM doing a bad job of using resources? They're doing it. Yeah, damn true, a bad job. I don't, you can be correct about this, but I don't know that the solution is to complain louder about it, but I think that this was a bullshit.

Yeah, this was a bullshit. If you wanted to, I don't know, the DM could be like, you can do an athletics check or an acrobatics check to run back through this room, like as quick as you can or something like that. Cause it's like, I get the DM's logic of like, the trap is still live, so there are still dangers.

But what was the trap was just if you stand in a certain spot, you get by lightning and you can't be running. You definitely remember that. You're the one who's definitely remember that. You just avoid that shit. I feel like this person, if they wanted this little stakes, if maybe you guys during your long rest,

we're like imbibing of some flask or something like that and they were like, okay, are you gonna remember? The DC to get that should have been five. Yeah. It feels like if you learn something you need to apply the next day, then it makes sense to be like, do you remember? But this was solved. You spent time solving it. It's like, do you remember the security code on your phone? Go ahead and roll

an intelligence saving throw. Hey, man, you just slept all night. You still remember the past. You haven't had coffee yet. You haven't had coffee yet. You haven't had coffee yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet.

You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet.

You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. You haven't had a yet. Yeah, they would learn pretty quick not to stand in the spot that gets them hit by lightning and also the fountain that attacks them They'd be so afraid of it a donkey could solve this puzzle. Yeah a donkey fully could solve this puzzle The only reason they can't use an iPhone is because they're hooves exactly That's the only reason and if you put it on speakerphone a donkey can order a pizza kind of

It's a problem on farm. Yeah, it's a use problem on farms. And we could just get a little extension that goes over their hoof that is like a little ham. Yeah. They could be using foam. They could be using foam. They could be using the security to cause dialing the pizza rest.

Do you ever worry about AI? What you need to be worried about is Doc, he's with us. Doc, yeah, a little less worried about AI. I'm a little more worried about he-ha. Thank you. Hey, thank you little less read about AI and a little more read about he-haw. Thank you. Hey, thank you. You're welcome, Brian. This is our, I don't know what kind of radio show this is.

I don't know what kind of political views these guys have, but I don't trust them. I'll tell you that much. Whatever these characters are, I don't trust them. Okay, so we clearly want to sentence the DM, and I think that we need to sentence them. To help Donkies or kids. To help Donkies fit all the- No, to help to control the Donkies. Control already doing this.

We know that they can and we know that the problem on farms. We know that they will. And they will. Yeah, so we believe you need to go door to door to different farms and be like, are the donkeys behaving? Are they ordering pizzas? I can fix this.

This is sort of a two-pronged thing. You need to go to pizza joints. You need to go to dominos. Be like, hey, what is the last, can I see a list of all the orders you've had? And when you see like a couple like, Maisie the donkey. Yeah. Or you see ones that couple like mazy the donkey.

Yeah. Or you see ones that are like heavy on like the hay where you're like adding a lot of hay to the order. Oh yeah. And she's pizza at the hay. You would do like a reverse search of the address to see how big the parcel of land is because it's over by bakers that might be a farm. That could be a farm.

And then you just visit because the donkey could have an alias. Yeah. The donkey would also as delivery, they'd be like, don't leave it on the stoop, just throw it over the fence near the donkey. And that is the biggest red card. Charge it to the card and throw it over the fence. Yeah.

So yeah, you need to become an advocate for farmers getting rid of the donkey. Donkeys, yeah. Okay. So ordered. So Okay. So ordered. So ordered. So ordered. Who did we punish?

We punish the DM. The DM. The DM is looking into donkey intelligence. The donkey minders. Like a donkey ordering a pizza. I don't remember what the DM did anymore because it got so long. They made them do intelligence saves to remember the trap. And a donkey could solve that puzzle.

You know what that reminds me of? I go back in circles. It's funny as I can't remember my password anymore because of that conversation. Yeah, that's it. It has removed everything. My brain has been wiped. And that is what the donkey's want.

Yeah. All right, okay, so ordered. Our next case comes from M Scott A. M Scott writes, to the ones who I trust the most and the Bayliffe, thank you. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I bring you the case of too many NPCs. Recently, in discussion with two of my DMs, I was accused of creating too many NPCs in my backstory. In one case, my 300-year-old fur bulk has two parents, five siblings, two of whom were missing,

a dead wife, an ex-husband, a mayor who ran him out of town, and eight water-deep residents. That the DM gave me when I asked, who do I know here? Oh, so who do I know here? Okay, okay. In the case of my former elf reincarnated into a gnome,

I have two parents and three siblings, none of whom he talks to, and four adventurers who had gotten him killed as an elf who are all MIA. They say it's too much for them to keep up with in addition to what they are already doing, although they both accepted my back stories, I argue that I'm giving them people

from my character's life that they can pick and choose who to use and help bring my character into their story. I even make some of them MIA for plot hooks, they are free to take advantage of. Most of them are just names, relations, and how my character feels about them. Am I right in trying to help my DMs

by doing a little girl building for them or have my place in two years? You know, they're on their already heavy shoulders. And I should just make boring lone wolf orphans. Well, that's not what they're asking for. And over a hundred years. That's not what they're asking for. I think the problem I have with the one,

the first one is that they're all in the town. I feel like you could have this story, but there's no expectation for the DM to ever bring it into play. It's up. Yeah, that's fine, but also like the players said themselves is literally like they asked me to like trim it down a little bit. And I said no. Like you asked if this would be cool for them and they said no.

Like you have 2DMs say this to you. I think if anything, if two people say the same thing to you kind of separate from each other, then you have to be like, huh, right. I'm going through every single character I've ever played and I've never had this many in BC. In my back story. I mean, yeah, I feel like it's like two to three.

It's mom, dad. Yeah. And I think you like go into towns and you're like, would I know somebody here? This person is in the same line of work. Would I know this person? And then the DM can throw you a bone. And like they're helping you build your backstory

as you're going. You know what? Maybe this person is coming. I think that maybe it could be you're coming at the backstory from the wrong angle, which is that it's not your relationships that always make the character. There's a lot more going on with the character

beyond relationships. Maybe you're the kind of person who thinks relationally, and so that's a helpful prompt for you. But maybe it's worth you being like, okay, refine the NPCs and then work on other character traits or other stories or things that could have happened that aren't dependent on an NPC. I also think that you guys are right when you say like it's more about the eight local NPCs

than it is about. Whatever complicated thing you have in your backstory of, it's just like, I've got somebody who like pushed me out of town and I've got two parents who are divorced and they're married to new people or whatever. That's for you. And if the DM decides to use that as a plot hook, that's cool. I think what the DMs are trying to avoid here

is having to play characters that they're not inspired to play that only one person at the table knows. Yes, that is letting you in on information that maybe you would otherwise know. If you're in a town and you know six people and no one else and have intense relationships with those six people and no one else and have intense relationships with those six people and no one else at the table does, that will feel weird.

It's gonna be so lopsided as the thing. I think also like when you give the story of the person who has like four adventures who fucked them over, that is so good. You need nothing else. Like that is so fun to me that like, just make that your story. And you can, if you want to like also in your head

Be like yeah, I have family that I haven't talked to in a while that's fine But focus on the focus on I got fucked over by this adventuring party and their Nemesis and their MIA where are they? That's especially great because then like if it's another adventuring party You can just pair them with each person in your current adventuring party Yeah, I get a little foil on that. Also, when you're playing in a game and somebody's DMing for you, you have to give the DM room to play, they're playing too.

They have to play who they want to play. So, even with a hard one, grew up with the dwarf inage and stuff, so he didn't have as many connections in the first campaign. But when you look at moon shining Bev, when we talked beforehand, we were kind of like, this is kind of what their relationship with their families, like this is where they're from and everything. But when Bev showed up, it was just like, this is Scout Master Denny.

Somebody I created called, well, your character knows this character. And then that's where we go with it. It's just like, you know Scout Master Denny, this is your Scout Master. Yeah, I didn't show up with a paragraph about Scout Master. Yeah, and then that's where we go with it. It's just like you know Scoutmaster Denny. This is your scout Yeah, I didn't show up with like a paragraph. Yeah, Scott. Yeah, you were like I know Scoutmaster Denny I already know Shay. I already know all of the people in the barbarian house I know four or five people in Moonstone crazy for moonshine and hardworn if Bev just knew everyone in town I have lines of credit at this rest right this rest from this store. Like, it could, it definitely could work as a story,

but if it was like, they have not only knows everyone and also has a backstory with everyone that then Murph has to be juggling the whole time. I think that, yeah, I think this DM, and you know, not every DM is like a professional improviser or something, and like, I guess technically I am, and I would struggle with this, if somebody was like, we're in this city right now. And in addition to all of the characters

that you've already created, I also might just ask to go talk to one of the eight people that I know. And then I have to come up with unique voices for them. Backgrounds, what they know, what they don't know. Like I'm thinking about all my characters, it's like even like the current campaign, Kaliope, it's like her backstory is her mom and her sister, but then Murf had a criminal that he was like, why don't we have her be staying with Krugan? So it's like he had an NPC he already wanted to play

that he was like, what about a relationship with this person that you've like been staying with for a bit? Great. Yeah. If you'll say this person is giving the DM staying with for a bit. Great. Yeah. Yeah. If you'll say this person is giving the DM, they think they're giving the DM hooks, but they're just giving them too many options.

Yeah. You don't be like, that's a really big haul. Nine different hooks to be like, hey, take what you want. Like that's a little, that's actually a little over a long run. Yeah, no, just give them,

I got fucked over by an adventuring party, and here I am. Yeah, and I think a goal is more important than a backstory also, because it indicates you moving forward and you don't have to like download somebody on everything that's ever happened to you. That slip should come out slowly over.

That's also just more, I think you're presenting it as if you're giving, you're doing work for the DM or something like that, but like you're saying, you're just creating more work for them. You're making them come up with several hooks that are just personal to you based on like 12 different characters. Yeah.

Like that's just not necessary. Right. You're playing in the DMs world. Yeah. They aren't doing any more. And it's a compromise. And I think even the way this was worded at the end, I think shows that this person's not willing to compromise.

Where they're like, either I have 14 NPCs that I know that you create specifically for me, or else my backstory is boring. And that when I hear that, I'm like red flag, red flag, red flag, red flag. Also, I'm going back to Kalebi. I remember I was like, it'd be fun if she's focusing on some ex-boyfriend and you were like,

oh, I have a character for that. So it was like a collaboration. It wasn't me being like, here's my idea for her ex-boyfriend. It was like, I think it'd be fun if she starts out and seems like she's just really low status focusing on this guy. And Murf was like, that plays into perfectly to something I have his guy, his name is Glenn.

He was an analogy that I have that I think makes sense It's like giving Murph like a ball of clay versus giving him action figures You're not gonna that in the park on this spot. You're giving him too many options a goal is better It's given him an action figure instead of a ball of clay You know what? Thank you justice Herwitz. Yeah. Whoa.

Oh my god. Oh my god. Is this in Boston? Jill, Jill Lock. Come here. They did it. They did it. I said you're clay thing and they did it.

Oh, shit. He took that. He took that from his kid. Just far. Oh, sorry. That's plagiarism. He took that from his kid. Just for- Sorry. That's plagiarism. Yeah, so with that- That's sentence this player.

I think we have to sentence the player. You know what? I feel like the sentence thing is just like think about it differently, right? Think about goals, less NPC needs. I'm gonna sentence the player to start DMing because it sounds like, because it sounds like you got a lot of ideas for stories. It seems like you really want to create a world and you're kind of forcing the DM's hand a little bit too much.

That's right, that's really good. And you thinking that it's boring to have a simpler backstory, maybe means that you're ready. Yeah, you just don't, you don't want more of a creative challenge. Spread your wings, yeah. Do wings., pick up the clay put it on the wheel Pick up the action figure because you're right being a DM is putting action figures in funnier That's great. I think I made this of your clay. You're ready for the clay. That was gorgeous. That was so gorgeous

Should we it was so gorgeous. I'm so moved by the spirit. Should we take it over to church? Yeah, yeah. It was so gorgeous. It's so ordered. And now it is time to move into the church of dice Christ. We have a confession from one James H. James writes, Dearest Cardinals of the Crit. I have a confession to make which I fear may result in my excommunication from the church. During the pandemic, I started DMing a game for some friends over Zoom. I was going well for a few months before I started to notice that people were distracted by other things or just not really engaged in the game. And we were all just going through the motions. It was in this time that I strayed from the light of dice crisis.

In order to keep my interest in the game, I would simply roll the dice for a check or attack and whatever number popped into my head that I believed would be the most interesting result was the number that I announced to the group. I didn't abuse this power and just want my players, but sometimes a seven just seems more interesting than the 19 dice crisis gives you. The game eventually fizzled out and we stopped playing,

but it has played on my mind since. And every now and then, when playing, I get the itch to just say the most interesting number. I throw myself at the mercy of the church and I'm willing to accept any punishment, however severe. I just need to be clean. I think you got the punishment if fizzled out. I also think I have to say that,

like what you do is wild. But I think it came from a place of wanting to keep people engaged. So it was a wild thing to do, but I think that your heart was in the right place even though it was really wild. Yeah. You know what? We're all in the box. This's just a little great between us, but we're all shaking our heads. We're sitting on each other's laps and shaking our heads. And we're just in to each other's stomachs. So hot. It's so hot. Yeah, but you know, we're all trying to inch closer to Carl Dwell. We're all just trying to get close to that tiny tiny like one of your cherry stems. Oh, that's a lot of fun. Yeah, I think that, you know, Dice Christ was telling you that you're not going to save

this campaign with quote unquote interesting rules. I do think it's funny, the idea is like a game kind of falling apart, but somebody like going home being like, you know, I really wasn't happy with that, but that we crit. That we crit. Then we create. And now I want to hang out with everyone again. I've just been showing this deal going home being like, I need new numbers. Yeah, just writing 21 on a chalkboard.

Yeah, that's it. It's not the fact that people have really complicated lives outside of this hobby. It's the fact that the numbers aren't there. We got to make the numbers bigger, George. We got to make a bigger or smaller. Oh. Oh.

I think you've learned that it's not about the roles, the roles are random for a reason. It makes it more fun. And it's more fun, it'll be more fun for you than if you're, I think like the biggest punishment here is that now you've got it in your head that you need to make roles interesting, that that's an option. And now you're sitting there probably debating every single role as if you should tell the

truth or not. It was mostly COVID that was weighing on people. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it was the numbers. Was it the numbers? Yeah, it was zoomed in. It was not the exact number. It was zoomed in.

It was not the exact number. It was the numbers. It happened to ever. And you took it on your shoulders. You thought that, but it wasn't numbers. And you took it on your shoulders, you thought that, but it wasn't you. It absolutely wasn't you. But yeah, I think this campaign was gonna

fizz aloud no matter how interesting the number was. I think we should give this person some sort of punishment dice to keep them honest. Maybe it's a little prickly. Oh, interesting. What does that do? What does that make them not? Just like they'll touch it and it'll prick them a little bit. Oh, interesting. What does that do? What does that make them not, just like they'll touch it and it'll like prick them a little

bit. Oh, wow. Oh, so I have the literal, so- Literally like splits. Yeah, it's a little seerchin, okay. That's kind of cool. It's like a hair shirt, but for days. Yeah, I think, I like that.

I love that idea. A seerchin dies. I, when I was, oh wait, no, it wasn't a seerchin. I had, when I was in college, I had had a I don't know why my mom got me this All of her presence for me are a true indication that she knows me. She got me a huge dehydrated puffer fish That was covered in spine Yeah, I think it was real and it was like mounted. I mean, I just put it like on a shelf. Where the fuck is it now?

Fuck, I don't know. It might have broken in storage. I also had a huge martini glass that was like so comically huge and that's shattered. You could have put the puffer in there. You could have put the puffer in there. I think the puffer spent some time in the martini glass but that got shattered in storage

between like sophomore and junior year and also had a graduation Present that was a frog that was like holding a platter. He's like In what was his name was like Fredrick or something? Well Lord Franklin Franklin is still in my house Lord Franklin's around. I don't know where's Lord Franklin? He's in my office. He's in your office Lord Franklin's around. He don't know. Where's Lord Franklin? He's in my office. He's in your office. Lower Franklin's around. He's still here.

Lower Franklin watches over me. Yes. Great. And with that... Do we want to end on one more of your... Of the game show? Of the game show. We need a better name for the game show.

And then we'll do only the game show on short rest, right? Oh, they... No, but we'll be returning to the game show. All right, what's fun? Wait, wait, spell check. Spell check? Spell check! That's good, spell check!

All right. Okay. I'm introducing spell check. You gotta kinda host it up. Okay, we've got four, we've got... Spell check 5e. Okay, go ahead. Four components for this one.

Okay. A bit of fur. Mm-hmm. A rod of Okay. A bit of fur. Mm-hmm. A rod of amber. A rod of crystal and a rod of glass. A lot of rods, rod heavy. Buzz, some in steed. Incorrect.

Fuck. Um. Ooh, I think it's, I feel like it's gotta be one of those with like a name in front of it. Some sort of wizard's name. Uh, that doesn't help me any further though. Can you repeat the components? A bit of fur, a rod of amber, a rod of crystal, and a rod of glass.

Dingling, oling, oling. Okay. Summon beast. Is that a spell? It is, I don't know if it is. It is. So I'm a greater familiar maybe? I think someone beast might be as well, but it is not that.

I'm gonna say polymorph. It is lightning bolt. Whoa! Okay, glass. And the crotch of glass. It's just that. Why the fur though? That I know, you're saying.

Maybe it needs to light on fire. Oh, for the static electricity. Oh, my God, that's so damn. Damn, this is kind of interesting. Merit's okay. I'm kind of interested. All right, it's definitely a puzzle. Reading it is a puzzle.

I don't know that it's the most entertaining thing to listen to. But it's, I'm kind of into it. It's awfully interesting to play. It's kind of interesting to play. Let us know, you know, normally I'm like I don't want you to yell at me in the comments, but let us know if you like the book about its game. If you like, you'll do it for a mixed bag. We'll do it for a mixed bag. No, we're gonna bring it over the short wrap. No, no!

We'll do both. We'll do both. We'll do our pilot episode in the short wrap. Yeah, well we're both mixed bag. We're both gonna do cases, but we will throw, we're gonna throw one or two in there. It gives my brain the same tingle when you find out, like, oh, that's why that Pokemon is weak against that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. With that, we'll go ahead and wrap this one up.

You can listen to our bonus cases and some more spell check against them. That's sweeping the nation that I don't know if I like or not. So typically, so typically, so typically, so typically, so typically, so typically, so typically, so typically, like or not. It's so tepidly. It's so tepidly. It's so tepidly. So tepidly.

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