Not Another D&D Podcast - D&D Court: Unfair Immunities, Passive Plunders and the Prone Dino Dilemma
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Welcome to Dungeon Core!
Dun Dun Tons!
We are just Supreme Crit,
Justice's Murphy,
Axford and Tanner,
and then finally,
the lowly, lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly lowly low Loley worm from the busy world of Richard scary It's giving me there's only one worm wife here That's true. We got the worm wife Emily actually we also have the loley bailiff Jake
What's another creature that crawls on the earth? What could we give to Jake?
Centipede is pretty good. That's really likes though. I like a lot of like he's a little roach
He keeps coming back
Loley roach has a good ring to it for sure.
How many times are you trying to crush him?
You guys know how much I hate roaches.
Oh my goodness.
We've talked about the busy world of Richard Scarry.
A lot.
A lot.
It's just going to know you on the main feed.
I hope so as well.
I know.
I know.
Check it out.
Yeah, he drives an apple.
He's a worm.
And with that one.
What kind of card is Jake drive though since he's lowly roach,
which I imagine is like lowly worms friend or maybe he probably he probably just a lowly.
It's a rotten apple.
Guttles on the underbelly of Richard's Gary's.
Oh, he's gottles on the underbelly.
Oh, Richard's Gary's.
I'm not gonna read the fucking cap.
I'm not gonna read the fucking cap.
I'm not gonna read the fucking cap.
Maybe he's got like an apple skateboard that's just really rotten and he's just like scuttling along
on the ice, but he's just scuttling along on the ground,
but the skateboard's rolling.
Well, maybe he just rolls into the sewers
and let's see which carry him.
At least let me skateboard.
Come on.
You're scuttling.
Oh, we're scuttling on the skateboard.
Guys, he serves in filthy garbage water on a nasty apple.
Okay, here's
you in surfers. Actually, it would be like a little like matchbox or something.
I kind of like it. We got to pivot. Yeah, I'm into it. Yeah, this is actually, let me check
the surf report of the sewer system. Your wife is a piece of shit. Here you here you shut
up. The current is now in session. The honorable Supreme Crit, justices, expert Murphy and Tanner are presiding.
And our first case comes from the brunch guild.
They're right.
That is bold.
I love a brunch D&D crew.
We've done it before.
We've done it before, it's fun.
It was actually really good.
Yeah, because you get really caffeinated and really amped.
Yeah, you got to manage yourimosas in your coffee rush.
We would call it brunches and braggins.
Brunches and braggins, but I think I never paired it with mimosas.
I just pounded coffee.
Oh, I had a mimosas for sure.
Coffee's good.
Yeah, yeah, it's the best way to get the worst headache of your life.
Yes.
It sounds great.
Indian bacon, come on.
Yeah.
All right, the brunch guild writes,
I play in a streamed 5E campaign
that has been running for over two years now
One of the players has a third-party subclass that was built with the support from the DM due to the player's desired character arc
The class focuses heavily almost exclusively on fire damage
The player has spent resources on elemental
Adapt to bypass fire resistance. However
Elemental adept to bypass fire resistance. Okay.
However, every, and I did not say most, I said every significant enemy we have faced since
this subclass was introduced has not just been resistant to fire, but immune to fire.
Oh!
Okay.
Yeah, you worked with your DM and your DM worked you.
The player has voiced frustration on a number of occasions and the DM just seems to chuckle
and move on.
I ask you, judges, should the DM have been more conscious of choosing enemies that made it player's character irrelevant,
or should the player just live with the fact that the whole world seems to be immune to fire damage and take some other damage types?
That's so brutal.
It's really rough.
So, why would you work with the DM just to have work?
Working with the DM is the weird part.
To get completely fucked over.
It's like they looked at your answers just to mark you wrong.
Just to make a new test.
There's no good way to be like,
I guess another person is immune to fat.
Like how do you even bring that up?
Also, generally most things are famously not immune to fire.
It's like demons are like the one that are immune to fire.
I guess like, yeah, I guess like,
if you're a devil in hell.
That's true.
If there are currently on a hell arc,
then I would say that I actually think that it is fair.
Yeah, but that would literally in hell,
not figuratively in hell at the D&D table
at your age is irrelevant.
Well, you look up elemental adapt,
it might say something about this.
So let's see, you gain the following benefit.
Spells you, you cast ignore resistance to fire damage.
In addition, when you roll a damage for a spell,
you cast the deals fire damage, treat anyone on damage dyes two.
You can select this feat multiple times.
It's time you do so, choose a different type of damage.
Okay, so it bypasses resistances,
but that doesn't come into play when everything is at you.
Oh, wow.
I was sitting here like, oh, the DM is actually kind of using it
because they're making them use their feeds,
but they're making it so that not only is their character
worthless because they do fire damage,
but their feet are worthless.
So it's such a missed opportunity because like going up
against fire characters and demons and creatures
and monsters and villains
and having them like losing the opportunity to be like, ah, I see you two are birthed from the flame.
We are like you and I. Yeah.
Like you're losing so much characterization there.
Can I bring up a really stupid thought that I'm having just right now in the moment?
Sure. Spill it.
When you're looking through like high level monsters, they're just immune to so much shit that you're like,
why?
Yes.
I feel like when I look at some of these monsters,
I wish that the people making them just made them,
just have more hit points instead of seven immunity.
I think that, well, I think it becomes more complicated
when we're doing theater of the mind
and we're recording it.
I think D&D becomes a lot more like war hammer
when you're sitting there playing at a table with everyone.
I know, but like, is like a fay lady just magically resistant to poison, lightning, fire,
radian? Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, poise, like, it always just feels like a motley of
everything. Yeah, everyone's immune to poison damage that happens all the time. It's like
any kind of robot, any kind of mortal, any kind of monster. Give big bads, less immunities,
and resistances, and just give them some more HP.
Yeah, that's what you want to do.
You want to chop them down.
But forgive me if this is an incredibly high-tech.
Well, I think when you're playing at home,
it's a lot different than when we're playing for the show
because no one wants to sit and listen to us
like try out different types of damage.
I guess I'm saying like,
it's like piercing damage now.
I'm sorry Saul, you actually got that.
That's my point is I like when I look through
and I'm like, oh that tracks,
but a lot of times it'll just be like a monster
who's like a Gorgon chaser.
And it's just like magically resistant to radian
and infernal or something like that.
Yeah, it's just like, yeah, angels can't kick this dude's ass.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess it feels like the teacher cheating instead of the students.
If they are doing like a skate from a glass, can teachers a movie?
That's a movie.
That would be the name of the movie.
Can teachers cheat?
That's definitely the name of a romance novel.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'm going to do a generous romance novel. Yeah. Yeah.
Wow.
I'm going to do a generous read here.
OK.
I hate it with every fiber of my being, but it must be done.
If there's anything in the court.
Yeah.
Maybe the DM is like trying to set up some sort of like big
character moment where they're like, I can't do anything.
I can't help my friends.
They're immune to all my fire damage.
And then like way down the line, they're
going to meet some sort of like Olaf monster that's made of snow and it's like a snowball and hell sort of
situation and they're gonna be the one to save them. The issue with that though is
that they are by that logic the the DM is trying to give that player a real
life breakdown where they say right? Just meditating, hating your character. Yeah. The
idea of being like the way to DM is to break them as people.
Yeah.
And then their characters will reflect there.
Because it's true.
We've had moments.
You don't talk like of all of the anguish that play
that's going to go through that right up
and tell they hit that breaking point.
Their life at the table is hell.
Yeah, your DM needs to make you like break up
with your girlfriend in game or something like that.
Don't make it so that your attacks don't work
There are different ways to give people a dark night of the soul other than like making them worthless and combat
I think the only generous read here is if they're running like escape from a furnace and they're literally in hell
Yeah, which I think that would be burying the lead if the submitter didn't do that
I think brunch guild would have told us. Yeah, it's also
Is anyone else a little thrown off that this wasn't about a brunch snafu?
I thought this was gonna be like,
my DM head 10 Bloody Mary's and kill my character.
Is that okay?
So I'll a little try to schedule a session during lunch
and we all revolted.
Yeah, right.
Our DM ordered waffle to split, but ate the whole thing.
Yeah, because it asked.
I was flitted on the bill.
I was imagining like everyone drinking
orange juice together and he had scones.
And then the question started off with,
we play in an online game together.
And I'm like, okay.
Yeah, so yeah.
It's disappointing, yeah.
So I guess we need all of you to have brunch.
Although the phrase, the brunch guild,
we immediately went to D&D,
but it actually could be
like a union of waiters and waitresses.
Okay, so then going to brunch is actually bad,
because they're worth, it's brutal.
They need to guild more than any of them.
They really do, they really do.
I take it back.
I take it back, move.
I absolutely take it back even more.
I take it back so hard right now.
Take it all the way back.
Okay, take it all the way back to the lowly thing again.
Yeah. Yeah. Welcome everyone all the way back. Okay. Take it all the way back to the loley thing again. Yeah.
Yeah.
Welcome everyone.
That's a great surfing route.
Okay, so let's punish the DM.
Yeah, this is, why would you do this?
It's such like, it's DM trying to beat their players,
which is such a silly way to think,
but not only is that a dumb way to think,
but it's even dumber to essentially cheat at doing it
by being like, let's build our characters together.
And then I'm gonna use that to hurt your character
when it dumb way to do like fire stuff.
I got an idea for your next interview.
You're very surprised.
The only thing you're allowed to do
is find out your husband's weakest stat
and then target him with saves that use that stat.
There we go, just kidding.
That's good.
I think we gotta, I don't know,
maybe we should do some arson, maybe we burned down.
Right, like,
I mean, there's gonna be a lot of grease and brunch.
Just like a mailbox.
We could burn their eggs, but you're saying
burn down their property.
Oh yeah, I mean like,
they have to eat an entirely burnt brunch.
Oh, there we go.
Oh, burnt toast, burnt eggs, burnt toast.
And a really hot mimosa.
Oh, hot mimosa.
Yeah, you think it's carbonated, but it's boiling.
Yeah, boiling hot.
Oh, there it is.
Melt away the alcohol.
The orange juice is so hot, it's dangerous.
Boiling?
I mean, but it's not boiling. Boiling hot mimosa.
Bring it out to you and they get one of those brulee torches.
It's not everybody else in the hot brunch.
It's nothing like a steaming mimosa to kick off my week.
Oh, and how charred would you like your oatmeal?
Yeah, I think we've launched a state hot brunch.
Just a good restaurant idea.
It's different from our brunch.
It's different. It can only eat hot brunch. It can actually, it can only eat at our restaurant hot brunch. Just a good restaurant idea. It's different.
It can only eat hot brunch.
It can actually, it can only eat at our restaurant.
Yeah.
This is our new show, it's hot brunch.
It's like hot ones, but people come on and we get them
terrible brunch.
We give them, just the most burnt egg
spanaday they've ever freaking seen.
Emul in mimosas.
It's not spicy at all.
It's just, it's burnt and it's actually like
temperature wise.
Yeah. It's just super hot.
It hurts. It's not possible. It's gonna burn your tongue. It's actually like temperature wise. Yeah, it's just super hot. It hurts. It's not possible.
Gonna burn your tongue.
Straight from the oven.
Yeah, you're gonna mature up burn parts.
You're gonna burn your teeth.
Yeah, there's an oven in the dining room.
It's not even in the kitchen.
We're gonna fucking ruin Pedro Pascal's mouth.
That's how close we get.
Yeah.
Okay, so just like the burnt pantate, just like the burnt,
oh fuck me.
Ah!
Look at the road, look at the road.
Just like the red nose cut.
Cuttle you little. He's the worst. I was gonna let you get away with it, but like we know it's gonna be. Cuttle you little order, it is about it.
I was gonna let you get away with it,
but then you were funny about it.
Yeah.
I mean, if I miss big three times in a row,
it's over.
Yeah, I get one redo.
We are really respectful at this point.
We give everyone one redo.
But if you spiral on the third redo, mess it up and then get it. All right, let's flip the roach over so we can scuttle away. So ordered.
Katrin, Katrin writes to the divinely favored court and even Baylift, I
present the case of the hag underground. Oh wow, speaking of roaches. He then roach,
that was so cute. Yeah, hagg underground.
My party was fighting a coffin of haggs.
And after another member of our party killed one of the three,
RDM instead of continuing the fight had both of the other haggs flee.
One of them disappeared into the ethereal plane,
and another turning into a swarm of beetles via polymorph and burrowing into the ground.
He said that unless any of us had anything preventing them from fleeing, combat was over.
Okay, so they gave you the chance.
Oh, no, I'll sell fire beer.
They gave you the chance.
Yeah, roaches are a type of beetle going.
I said that my blade singer wizard cast to spell magic on the hack transformed into
a beetle swarm, since the spell doesn't require you to see the effect you're ending.
It wasn't until I successfully rolled an 18 to dispel the polymorph that my DM started arguing
that I couldn't do that.
First, he said I couldn't see the Beatles,
so I couldn't cast it.
Then he agreed I could cast it,
but ruled that there was just an unpolymorphed
hagg 15 feet underground,
and that she took no damage,
and would escape on her next turn via another spell,
if none of us could reach her.
My fellow players argued that she couldn't cast any spells
with verbal or somatic components.
If she was immobilized under the ground,
that we were ignored.
I beg your benevolent ruling.
I could cast a verbal and somatic spell underground.
We could try, we could bury Emily in the castle.
I first, I think I for sure could.
I would get a mouthful of dirt
that my spell would have been off.
An awful dirt.
I absolutely could.
You're the life form, of course you could.
I'm the wife, where?
What does a verbal spell anyway?
Do you need to project it?
Does everyone need to say,
or do you just need to move your lips?
Well, that's a good question.
I think you need to say something.
I think you need to say that.
You gotta form the fricatives.
Yeah, I think because something like silence
can prevent the verbal component of a spell.
Or if someone needs to hear something.
Yeah, but can you take like two chumps of dirt
and then be able to at least get like, oh, mo.
I think I could, I really think I could.
Yeah.
I'm basing this off of the idea of me buried alive.
I think I could mumble.
I don't know about somatic though.
Somatic is gonna be tricky.
Because your hands are gonna be like stuck in the dirt.
You would really have to really hurt.
I don't, I will say that now, now we're getting serious. Now this is a serious debate
on whether or not we can speak our marriage hinges.
No, why?
I mean, you have to go dig a hole.
I can do this. I don't think you speak underground. I mean, I think rarely in D&D is there
something you can replicate in real life and burying somebody underground
That's just fully one to one 15 feet of
Earth above you that's a lot of pressure
Well, it doesn't matter about the pressure
It's just like if all you need to do is like chomp down like two mouthfuls of dirt
And then you've got enough mouth room to cast a spell. It doesn't matter if anyone hears it
You just need to like form the word and speak them into the weed you've got space in your belly
Uh-huh you swallow some dirt, make space for your hands to articulate.
I don't know.
If you're a beetle and then you suddenly expand
to your full size and your 15 feet underground,
I think you're just, you're stuck.
You're in the line of trouble.
I would admit defeat and die.
If it's okay.
So do we know what spell they were trying to cast,
turning into a swarm of bugs?
Is that what?
That's polymorphin.
Well, let's look up polymorphin, see if it's just somatic
or just verbal or if it's both.
Because if it's both, I feel like that's a little bit...
I see, see, here's the deal, guys.
I think we're arguing the wrong thing here.
I think it's not about whether or not you can survive
in doing a bunch of dirt.
Us arguing the wrong point because it's more fun on D and D.
I can't imagine that happening.
It's a first for the court.
Okay.
It's a first for the court.
All right.
I won't say my real opinion. No, you should be able to speak it.
Also, if you're that far under the earth, your spells are going to work better because the
earth is kind of like unattuning presence because all of your spells come from the earth.
They come from the weave of all things living and alive and dead and that balance.
So if you're deep in the earth, oh my god, you're so close to corpses and bugs.
Yeah.
You're being able to draw on all sorts of new energy.
I like this earthy defense.
I will say the fact that this DM,
like they were clearly trying to get their people out of there,
but I do like that they said,
they weren't inviting people to do stuff.
So it's almost like that 15 feet underground,
I don't know, could a whole party,
that could a whole party then get to them and dig them out maybe?
I think that they're arguing the wrong thing.
The fact that the DM caved instantly and we'll start it out by offering them an option,
said you can cast a spell magic, let them roll, let them succeed, and then took it away.
It's just, if you can't get to them, say no.
That's it.
Like, if that's gonna be your ruling,
is that you can't get to them?
Because the scarabs might have,
or the Beatles swarm of beetles,
might have enough movement that they can burrow down.
And get out of range.
Oh, their burrow speed's only five feet,
so they can't get very far.
This is pretty slow.
They're so slow.
Yeah, so I think this is not only kind of open and shut
by the book, but also just socially to be like,
you know, as someone running the game,
you shouldn't sit there and be like,
yeah, go ahead and try.
Okay, I rolled an 18.
Oh, no, you can't do it.
Well, though it would have been more unsatisfying
if it had been like, can I dispel the magic
and just have them be like, no.
I disagree.
I think that don't offer something as a role
if there's no way someone can succeed.
If you can't succeed.
Because the magic hurts more because they got a chance
to roll for it.
Yes, so flip it.
If you played the game and you won,
you rolled it out exactly. You needed to be that high number that it is and then, so flip it. If you played the game and you won, you rolled it. Yeah, exactly.
You needed to be that high number
than it is and then the DM said,
actually your role was meaningless.
Exactly, yeah, yeah.
Just say no if, yeah.
And you also wasted an 18.
Yeah, yeah.
That doesn't happen very often.
There's kind of no reason to say no here.
It's like, there's a cousin.
You want your bad guys to escape, I get it.
But they already killed one.
They got the other one through like, you know,
trickery and they're able to like, dispel it.
And then you have a fun, interesting thing.
And you still have one of your witches has escaped.
Still, someone has escaped.
You still, all of your stories are
through everything.
It's all still there.
Why you would argue this is kind of silly to me.
I've personally got a frittata browning
for this, or rather blackening really,
because that's how burnt it's becoming.
Okay, Cajun style.
For this DM.
Yeah, okay, so let's, let's serve this DM a hot brunch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's gonna be scalding hot brunch.
And your server is on roller skates actually.
Yeah. Oh. It's a danger really hot. First time on roller skates your server is on roller skates actually. Yeah.
Oh, first time on the first time on the first time.
Yeah, our roller skaters question.
Are the roller skates also hot?
Uh, they could be.
I think that, um, call well like the like the, um, danger of this.
Yeah, yeah, is that they are not sure on the roller skates.
And so they're holding, okay, great.
Yeah.
Eating hot food at hearty.
Whereas hot wheels, it first off is just a different toy.
That's just totally different.
Yeah, this is a different car.
But the hot wheels of a roller skate
doesn't really affect anyone.
That's very good.
Yeah, okay.
Like if I got a plate of molten memoses spilled on my lap,
like that would be a lawsuit probably.
Right, whereas if I was just roller rolling skating near Emily with hot wheels on
We all taped on it. Yeah, well when you walk into the restaurant you sign like a release a lot of
Yeah, you might get scalded we have no liability our waiters are skaters
Skater waiters, okay, we have skater waiters and we say you sign a waiver you sign a waiver for the skater waiters
That's why and there's also another waiver that says you might get you might get scolded and scolded
Right the waiters yell at you
Because you're in the way of the
Bringing that sort of fun. Um, it feels like they haven't been around in a while, because restaurants where people are really mean to you.
Yeah, so restaurant where people
are really good at past.
I'm imagining how what a liability.
Oh, it's a little too hot for your buttercup.
That's just Starbucks for me.
But it's usually because I'm Ruth first.
What do you mean you don't have my lock?
And you also always, you have like a little,
but you're into getting scolded a little bit,
so you always give your name
as something really defa-
And I'm a Tory.
You just doesn't have mobile ordering,
but he thinks if he just goes in there
and acts like he mobile ordered,
then he should have a drink.
Jake takes a sip of his cold brew and says,
this is so hot!
Ah!
I go to the mobile order pickup,
and I kind of just look for something
that looks like my name or what I might like.
Right.
It is crazy that people don't steal more.
They definitely do.
Simply must be.
I would have to imagine.
Whenever I'm like in that crew waiting to pick up.
You're thinking about it.
Because I've never done the mobile order or anything like that.
And I'm always just like,
these people are putting faith in a system
that does not love them back. Hey, if you've ever stolen an order from Starbucks, let us know we'll
send you to a hot brunch. We send you to a hot brunch. We are the law. Okay. So ordered.
Our next case comes from Rachel W. Rachel writes, may it please the honorable Supreme Crit
Justices, the baby bailiff and his baby. thank you. Oh, look at all those eggs.
The case of the unpartenable passive perception.
Our campaign hinged on a very important map
that was wanted by different factions across the wide world.
Our party had taken turns carrying the map
and as we entered a busy and gritty city,
we decided that I, the surly suspicious dwarven druid,
should hold the map for safekeeping.
Okay.
I narrated putting the map inside my shirt,
robes, and leather armor against my stomach,
repeating that I would be hyper aware
of the map at all times, checking it frequently,
and regarding everyone around me with extreme caution.
A few in game days later, we hunkered down to the hotel,
and I narrated taking the map out
to be sure it hadn't been damaged in a recent fight.
The DM told me it was gone.
I asked when it had been taken and he said,
you don't know, that's how passive perception worked.
I insisted that I had been aware of the map
and had it buried under the numerous pieces of clothing,
it would have been impossible to pick pocket.
He relented and told me it had been stolen
by someone in the street the day before,
but that he had rolled against my passive perception
and I hadn't noticed.
He maintained however that the map had been taken and there was nothing we could do about
it now.
I besieged the court to tell me, must I accept my grizzled and grumpy dwarven hermit didn't
notice someone pulling a map from under the multiple layers of her clothing and let the
whole party down or has just has been denied by my DM.
I humbly await your judgment.
I think there's no mechanics for like I have 10 shirts on
and I'm hiding something under those 10 shirts.
Yeah.
I was saying the DC goes up by five per shirt.
Yeah, it's just this is what your passive perception is.
You could argue the only argument that you could make
because everything else is just fluff.
Everything else is just outside of mechanics.
Right, this is just role play saying,
I'm keeping you right there.
You could say that they get an actual perception check,
and it's not passive perception.
That could be an argument that you could have made,
is like, I'm being hyper aware of this thing.
I'm looking out at all times,
which would just be a perception check.
But this is kind of what passive perception is for.
It's like, I think that passive perception is more,
like if I were to DM, obviously,
I'm not the most experienced DM whatsoever,
but my instinct is if I'm gonna try to steal
from my players, that's gonna be active perception
because it just doesn't feel fun.
But if my players wanna steal from someone
that they're interacting with,
I'll default to passive perception
because who fucking cares?
Like I'm like rooting for that fun,
but I feel like if you want to steal from your players,
you really have to earn it.
Cause otherwise it just feels really like.
I feel like passive perception.
I know that everyone has it on their sheet.
To me, it feels like it's more for like,
in these enemies.
Like yeah, I feel like you can use it against your players,
but I feel like it's more for like your players
to use against you.
I feel like it's more like for situations
that someone isn't anticipating, rather than,
I have this thing that I'm afraid of someone stealing.
I don't think there's anything passive
about trying to reach up someone's shirt to say come back.
Yeah, that's true.
Passive petting.
Well, Murph said made a lot of sense to me.
It's like if you roleplay,
it's like Frodo putting the ring around
and necklace around his neck, you'replay, it's like Frodo putting the ring around and necklace and necklace and necklace.
And you're like, okay, doesn't that
like leave the idea of passive perception
and move into like active perception?
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good point.
I think it personally does.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah.
There might be a Crawford ruling, but.
Can we briefly take a detour
because I thought this case was gonna be about the fact
that they were like pressing the map right up
against their chest and the DM was gonna stay and look at it.
It was all sweaty and all of the details of it falling off.
Wow, honestly, I think that might've been more earned
than what happened.
Yeah.
You had money on the table, DM, it's all I'm saying.
I just feel like you're expecting someone to steal it
and that doesn't feel like it feels like passive perception
to be, I'm in a store trying to buy something,
and I don't notice someone sneaking and try to attack someone.
Okay, let's see here.
Okay, so passive checks.
A passive check is a special kind of ability check
that doesn't involve any dice rolls.
Such a check can represent the average result
for a task done repeatedly, such as searching for secret doors
over and over again, or can be used when the DM wants
to secretly determine whether the character
succeed at something without rolling dice, such as noticing a secret doors over and over again, or can be used when the DM wants to secretly determine whether the character succeed at something
without rolling dice, such as noticing a hidden monster.
Okay.
So I think that technically by the book,
the DM could get away with this,
which is why I do think this one is kind of tough,
but I will say that I think you guys have convinced me
that this person has role played that they're watching it
with all of this. It's like, Frodo is doing active perception checks
on the ring.
Like, to be like, that's passive is silly.
Like, that's not passive.
Yeah.
He's joking.
He's contemplating a life with the ring.
Yeah, so.
I feel like passive perception is you guys are going,
you're walking through the woods,
and then the DM is like, cool, I'm going to roll to find out
if these people who are stalking them are gonna get a sneak attack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If my character's walking through the woods,
not different perception checks,
and like a bear jumps out, it's like,
that's on me, that's my passive perception there.
I get that, but it's like, yeah,
if I'm wearing glasses and someone takes my glasses off,
that's a regular perception check.
Yeah, right?
Cause I'm perceiving my body at all times. Exactly. You didn't take your shirt, you took your hoodie.
Yeah, hoodie is barely when touching your skirt. That is true, yeah, by mechanics of the game,
you could just like, something like hoodie. You could constantly be stealing from people.
Yeah, that's true. At first, I'm now completely talking myself out of anything that would allow you to wake up.
You wake up and your kidney is just gone.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, this is active. This is active perception, 100%.
They said they were actively perceiving it, so should have gotten a role.
Go ahead and do a perception check.
Which sometimes your perception check can be worse than your passive perception.
Yeah, yeah.
I think what we got to do do is we gotta take some cinnamon rolls
that look kind of like chunks of molten rock.
They're so bright and black and hot.
Just shove them right under their shirt, right?
Right, oh my God.
I love that.
And that's not a lawsuit because you sign a rule.
Like hot stones, but not a lawsuit.
You sign a rule.
We can get a rule.
You about it, you can be scolded.
That's not it, yeah.
Skolvin, this is hot brunch.
This is hot brunch. The skater waiters are waiting. The skater waiters, do. I'm that's not it. Yeah. This is hot brunch. This is hot brunch.
The skater waiters are waiting.
I'm not supposed to be.
Are boiling.
Yes.
And the skater waiters, they have taters,
because our hash brown on the boiling, boiling.
But they look like little volcanic nuggets,
because they are that burned.
Well, they're not going to get.
You're going to want those to cool off for a day or two.
They're just straight up boiling potatoes. They're still wild. Like like how do they get them that hot? They look like ingots
How about this for the slogan hot brunch if you can't take the heat you suck
About it. It's really good. It's a small font underneath printed on a nine a cat tails
Okay, so ordered.
Our next case comes from Ruben W.
They write, may it please the court
and you lowly but rugged and handsome Baylif, thank you.
Whoa, he is so raspy.
You think roaches are handsome?
Come on now.
I'm just picturing an L being catalog full of roaches.
Roaches, working there.
Roaches modeling a flannel. Oh, it's a fucking awesome. I get a grouch at a love it. Roaches and roaches working there. Roaches modeling a flannel.
It's a fucking awesome.
I could have grout shit, I love it.
Roaches and flannels, next to a fireplace.
Go on a hike.
Look at the fucking denim on that beetle.
Oh, wow.
This is a raking leaves.
Holy shit.
That bug is walking a dog.
That is shit.
Did I see it?
Did I see it?
I can't. Shit, he got that thing from a breeder.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
What a beautiful family.
I submit for the approval, the case of the Fallen T-Rex.
My friends and I were playing D&D
near the end of a multi-year campaign
and we're in a fight that would lead
to its final stage.
Oh my God.
Yes.
During the fight, our artificer used a polymorph spell
to transform into a Tyrannosaurus God. Yes. During the fight, our artificer used a polymorph spell to transform into a
Tyrannosaurus Rex. Cool. But was knocked prone a few minutes later. When it came back to the
artificer's turn, our DM claimed that since a T-Rex's arms were so small, it couldn't use them to
help itself up. He then claimed that because of this, a prone T-Rex could never stand back up.
of this, a prone T-Rex, could never stand back up. Course strength.
Course strength.
Da, you have starvation.
Course strength.
Yeah.
Let me refer to a little something as the Shawn Michaels Kip-Up.
Okay.
The chip.
Ooh.
That dude did not need arms to stand up.
Yeah.
Okay.
He really needs to do it.
Look it up.
You guys, course strength.
Look it up.
It's insane.
Have you ever tried to do that Kip-Up thing where you're on your back? Yeah, it's a terrible act. I was so bad. That's what I'm talking about. I've never to look it up. It's insane. I've never tried to do that Kip Up thing where you're on your back.
Yeah, it's a terrible act.
I was so bad.
That's what I'm talking about.
I've never once tried it nor will I ever.
I've tried it so many times to be like
HBK, the heartbreak kid, but I just can't do it.
But I do think that if I was flat like a worm,
like a wife worm or a rug of roach, like on the ground.
I think I could roll myself over and I could get up.
The idea that T-Rex is never stood up ever is so silly
Went down. Yeah, they ever go down. They die
I mean I think their legs are that powerful big. Yeah, they got big legs. Yeah, it's their legs, but I got it
I'm I really believe in the T-Rex core
Yes, we don't know if dinosaurs had abs or not.
We don't know anything.
We don't know anything about their muscles.
We don't know about their bones.
We don't know about their muscles.
Don't talk to me about their muscles because we don't know.
People are going on a lot.
We don't know about the feathers.
They're like, oh, yeah.
Yeah, maybe they had feathers.
I don't fucking care if they had feathers.
I want to know if they were shredded.
If they had feathers, maybe they had fucking wings.
And they fucking flew back down.
Did the T-Rex have an eight pack or not?
Yeah, a 16 pack.
Because of this claim, he then said
that the prone T-Rex artificer was effectively dead
and the polymorph spell would end.
You and the artificer looked at each other.
If you can't be creative, just do the rules.
Read that the semester's guide and stop being creative.
You have to stop.
It's not a creative version.
Don't improvise.
This is the problem with the rule of cool.
If you're not cool.
The T-Rex's arms are too,
it can't do a push-up.
It stands out.
I don't know how cool it is.
I don't know how this person wasn't like,
oh, this is a funny idea.
The T-Rex with his tiny arms standing up.
They didn't narrate your tiny arms pushing yourself up.
And have a little fun with that.
I don't know if you're just having a silly time,
I guess you could just be like, up for like,
you have to use half your movement to get up
because the...
You have tiny arms.
You have to use your full movement to get up.
I'm gonna try it right now, hold on.
Yeah, you can't keep it
Oh, this actually oh my god. You're gonna hit
What's he doing? I can't even see some of the table. Oh, just wiggle in my way up. He just wiggled up
Another hot bro
Do they sort of do like
Awards ceremony's repot guests?
I think that clip.
Yeah.
I just, us confused in the room couldn't even see him.
In the running for the amount of time.
The comment does visualizing.
I think.
What was it?
What was it the flippest, the worst, no, the podcasting
work for worst podcasting work
for worst podcasting moment was the running joke
of let flip a TV with a DVD.
And it just, yeah.
No, I can see it.
It doesn't make a difference.
It's just a 50, 50 chance.
It's not unique.
It's not funny.
I actually think that was a really funny.
Well, that was funny.
Now it's funny.
I think that was a really funny person. I think we should bring That was funny. I think that was really funny for a silly thing.
I think we should bring Flip a DVD back.
It took a few minutes to get the DVD.
Yeah, it took him time.
He left.
Yeah, that's not right.
The execution of it was a little while ago.
That was what it was all about.
I had to figure out where the screeners were in the house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then he got it, it was just like, cool.
I've got a DVD for a locker.
Yeah.
Let's flip it. And then it ended up being heads, I've got a DVD. I really like Locker. Yeah. Let's flip it.
And then it ended up being heads, I recall.
Yeah.
But I don't remember what we're flipping for.
We'll never remember that.
All we're members, the good times we had
flipping those DVDs.
Yeah, this is silly.
Anyway, me and the Artificer looked at each other
and disbelief and both voiced our displeasure
in the ruling claimant wasn't realistic.
And even going so far as to show myself called,
well, standing up off the ground without using my own.
I'm right there with you.
Solidarity.
That was actually prophecy what called well dead.
The DM relented slightly and said the artificer could remain in Tyrannosaurus form but would
be stuck in the prone position while the spell was acting effectively neutering his combat
capability.
Also if this was a limitation mechanically of the T-Rex, it would say so.
Yeah, it would say if they fall prone, they can't get it.
They can't get it.
They can't get it.
Yeah, the stats are there.
Yeah.
The T-Rex was a apex predator.
Yeah.
Like, so dangerous.
If it tripped over a log in the woods, it was just dead.
It's just a dead.
Do I need to get on the ground again?
Yeah.
There are some, there are, it's controversial that whether or not the T-Rex might have been
a scavenger.
But if you were a scavenger you gotta fucking get up if you fall.
Yeah.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass.
And then to the next carcass. And then to the next carcass. And then to the next carcass. And then, come on. Let's see. I was getting it's life together.
Yeah.
And that's that ratio.
You ready?
I'll have the hot quavos ranch.
I'll have the hot quavos ranch.
Wait, you're skating away from me.
You're fucking fun.
You're fucking fun.
Can I have a boiling Arnold Palmer, please?
Oh my goodness.
Oh my goodness.
I love a red hot bloody Mary.
Yeah, it's a bloody Mary, but it's got those little
coasters that keep your coffee hot,
but it's fun.
We do it on bloody Mary.
They've got Frank's red hot in it too.
Yeah.
How do we feel about this DM having to be prone
at the restaurant and just getting,
oh, they said, whatever, whatever,
the skater, the skater, the skater waiters.
Oh, that's great.
They'll find out when you, when you're scared,
how much you can get up.
Yeah, yeah.
And you'll be prone a lot when your our skater waiters
are constantly tripping and falling down.
Our skater waiters are not only mean to the patrons,
they're also mean to each other.
And the managers are so mean.
Hot style.
Where it's so hostile.
In that environment, it is hot, it is stressful.
Everyone's mad.
You're skating for the first time in your life.
For the first time.
Because after your first shift, you need to take a month off
so that you forget how to skate.
Wow.
No, first day is your own roller skates.
Second day, we mix it up.
You're on a skateboard.
That's great.
Third day,er blade.
Just if we don't want you to get used to the boots,
we don't want you to get used to the boots.
We filled the restaurant with snow.
Scooter, yeah.
And then snow.
Yeah.
This is what the bear is about, right?
I haven't seen it.
Yeah.
It's just a restaurant where everyone's meeting each other.
It's a really mean skater with her.
Yeah.
Can I get some more hot binocles over here?
Order up.
All right, so this isn't burnt enough.
This DM has to be the char.
Just being a skater waiter.
Okay, skater waiter at the restaurant.
I have an embedded confession, which is that
I actually really like my food burnt.
How burnt?
Yeah.
Like char?
I love a char.
Yeah, I love like a char.
That's an acceptable thing.
So we're talking about this and I'm really trying to picture it in a way that isn't
appetizing.
I think it's dangerously hot.
It's so hot.
I think it's not a char.
I think it's not an issue for me either, but yeah, it's really hot.
It's so hot.
It's so hot.
Yeah, I think it's liquid yolk.
So hot.
Do you know my dad can make a perfect omelet?
Go on, go on.
No, no. I will not.
I'm trying.
I'm trying to make my life.
What's his technique?
There's not a single, it's a entirely uniform in color, entirely uniform in color, a smooth
little pocket.
Does it do a French fold?
Yeah.
I got to ask you a question.
It's not real.
Because here's my strategy for a French fold omelet that's's perfect no color on it single color just a beautiful June yellow
Is what I have to do is I have to make two bad omelets first is your dad throwing away secret omelets?
No, I don't think so. I'm guessing his tip or trick is that maybe he just has nicer pants than I do
Yeah, you need a good pan. Yeah, I got bad pants. Yeah, I think I think there's maybe a shame omelette vault
I don't want I don't like you know, I don't want to you say that my dad makes two omelettes for everyone
Your talk. What is it? What is this accusation? I'm sorry accusation my dad make my dad your dad my father
Raised me makes two omelettes for everyone open your eyes. He's a flawed human being Emily
Maybe he's got some shame omelets. Oh, you're putting down my head. Go on Jake. Oh, you'll never you'll never enjoy one of those omelets again
She she thinks dad. I'll I'll go throw let me throw away my napkin
No, no, no Emily. No, I'll throw it away. I'll take out the trash. There's a garbage can right next to the oven
It's right next to the stove. It just stinks of eggs.
It's just the whole kitchen stinks of eggs.
There's nothing in it.
You'll be tasting the truth though,
and what's going on in the back?
Wow.
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Okay, my life is upside down. Please read the next question, Jay.
So ordered. Our next case, our next case comes from them and they write hey their judges
I bring to y'all the case of the PC who doesn't know what a healing potion is while another PC rolls death save
Okay, three players three players. I guess for anonymity. They say let's call them told well canner
Emily Xford and Mariahne Berphy. Let's do Huey, Dewey, and Louie, okay.
Yeah, Huey, Tim.
Yeah, yeah.
I just suggest my friend was looking for a 30% costume
and I suggested that.
You're doing solid, yeah, solid.
Cool.
Yeah, you could also do Alvin Simon and Theodore,
but Huey.
No, dude, no.
Okay, all right.
Oh, oh.
Okay, so they ended up in combat and it looks like,
oh God, this is gonna be so hard.
And it looked like Louie found himself in death's sense.
Okay, Louie, hang on, hang on,
because Louie is me.
Right, yeah.
Yeah, actually, I'm Louie.
Okay, I have to be.
Call those Huey.
I don't know anything about their personalities
or if they knew you.
Okay, so Emily is Huey called me.
No, no, no, no, no, dude, dude.
Otherwise, do we as Emily?
Do we as Emily as okay?
Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.
This is gonna stop, and do it.
Shake, man. Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. No. This is gonna stop him. This is gonna stop him.
I don't know, just get in.
Just get in.
Play it real quick.
Do you really find a place?
Find a place.
Find a place.
Let's just take him in and get this right.
Do we, Emily?
Do we, do we, it's, it's, do we.
Sorry, so I can get into character.
What is do we like?
He's a doc.
He's a doc.
He's a doc.
He's a, he's a rambunctious.
Okay. He's absolutely a rambunctious. I'm rambunctious and rich okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah second I'll look this up. We're gonna take like a 10. Yeah, we're gonna take 10. Let's just take a Huey-Duey and Louis break. I also feel like it does feel like since your name is Hue
that maybe you should be Huey,
but I do feel like Huey is maybe a little bossy,
so I might be more of a Huey.
Wow.
I don't wanna look it up.
Yeah, we'll have to look up this.
So are you gonna be Huey or Louis?
Well, you know what we're deciding right now.
We're doling out.
I'm trying to edit this doc.
I'm doing it.
It's really good.
It's giving us. It's not fine in replace yet. I'm not gonna be able to. We're not gonna have that. I'm trying to edit this Doc's Yeah, really good. It's giving us not finding a place yet to not I'm
Rebleeding I will send you a hot brush. I'm googling what is do we like?
All right personal is in appearance. Okay, there we go. Okay. Well each have a distinct characters trait
They share some similarities great all through. You're gonna be crafty and troublesome. There we go
Usually think of like let's see all right. I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to skip ahead. Okay. Yeah Let's see. Let's get to that Huey-Duey and Louis section. Oh, okay. Here we go. Usually think of like, let's see. All right, I'm gonna have to skip ahead. Okay, yeah, let's see.
Let's get to that Huey, Dewey, and Louis section.
Okay, here we go.
2017 Stucktaels.
Great.
Huey's role as leader.
So that's me obviously.
Whoa, hey.
Yeah, I think Pablo's, that's fair.
Let's, Pablo.
Yeah, I got the red cap, I'm like a card.
I'm always gonna, he's like our Huey.
Yeah.
I'm smart, I'm good at planning things.
Let me check. And then To me, that's awesome.
And then we got, let's see, okay.
Next up is going to be,
Dewey, let's see, Dewey had an identity crisis
as he wanted to separate himself from the trio
to stand out.
Oh my god.
Dewey has middle child syndrome.
Oh, I'm looking through Dewey's aliases.
They include the third one.
Whoa.
The nickname given to him by his grand uncle.
That's pretty.
DJ Daffed Duck.
The Do-Drop Turbo, Fancy Business.
Oh.
Champ Popular.
So I think I'm actually gonna go Lil Donald.
Oh.
So I think I'm gonna go Oh Blue Nephew.
So instead of Dewey, you can call me Blue Nephew. That's great. Call it real easy. Yeah, that I think I'm gonna go oh blue nephew. So instead of dui you can call me blue nephew. That's great.
Really? Yeah, that's easy dude. Just blue nephew and then of course dui but that's blue nephew and then what's what's up with Louie? Okay, Louie? Okay?
Okay, Louie's portray is the most laid back.
Oh my god.
Classic, classic you.
Classic, classic you.
Okay, you love going, easy going, Murph. Okay, should I read this now?
Or yeah, so go ahead. We're out of time find replace find replace the Emily one
Did you make it? Did you make it? I'm blue now. Yeah, you're blue
You're all I'll be Louis. Yeah, like yeah, even though I'm can you change it to leader Louis?
I get you lose you probably Can you change it to leader, Louis? I think she's got me, Lazy Louie, probably. Well, Lazy Louie.
Just for the sake of the car.
Lazy Louie.
I think I might actually go champ popular instead of Blue Nafia.
Okay, let's go ahead and switch it from
to the Nafia champ popular.
Champ popular and, and Cable, your heroic youth.
I just, we're actually, since we are doing,
since we are doing visual jokes on this podcast,
let me go ahead and get my Louis doll
from the closet right behind Okay, yeah
My god he's going he's going to the closet. All right, so I'm narrating so it makes sense for a podcast all right
Here that's the closet door opening. He's right behind me folks. He's getting it all
He's getting a doll on check which color the doll is it is a green. It's a laid-back lot holy shit
Holy shit.
Murph had in this room. Yeah, Louie doll.
And it's like, he got so fast.
So weathered from time.
It's like, you can see every single childhood sleep
Murph took that with that doll.
You put that thing in your mouth.
Yeah, for sure.
And you were trying to argue that you weren't a little
man. This is my guy. Yeah. Is. Yeah, that's like a childhood. This is a childhood Louis. Oh my god. Wow. Wait, that should be the thumbnail.
Oh yeah. The main fee. Her the main thing. You can, what the hell are we doing? We could do, we could. No you can't, you can put it on the, yeah, we could put it on the beach. Absolutely sure.
Rest energy.
Yeah.
Okay, anyway, yeah.
So, okay.
I'm really, yeah.
Three players.
Let's call them champ popular, heroic,
QE and Lazy Louie.
We're talking about, yeah.
And Lazy Louie found himself in Deathsaves.
As Roach Louie.
Can I, sorry, can I interject?
It's kind of weird that they all
names their characters after ductiles characters, right? Yeah. Louie found himself in Deathsaves as Roa- Can I just wait, can I, sorry, can I interject?
It's kind of weird that they all names
their characters after ductiles characters, right?
Yeah, it's a little strange.
Is that what this character is about?
I feel like if I were the DM, I'd be like,
come on guys, I put a lot of work in it.
Yeah, so this was between one of those cases.
Yeah, yeah, all right, so we'll
side with the DM in the media.
We'll continue, Donald.
Now go ahead.
Uncle, okay. As go ahead. Uncle.
As Lacey Louis found himself in Deathsaves,
heroic Huey and champ pop, you'll-
Ah!
Sounds right?
You got it, dude.
We got it.
Sarah, Sarah, I actually want to go back to Blue Nethia.
Blue Nethia, okay.
Sarah, and Jake, so-
Sarah, and Blue Nethia, yeah.
She was, let's just kick it off from the top.
Kick it off with what? The top, from the top. Kick it off with what?
The top, from the top.
It's never forgot what we're talking about.
It's like a fully orient-
We're a little lost, Jake.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just a little off.
Okay, three players.
Into a great job reading, but.
Yeah, it's on me, it's on me, apologies.
We can edit all this out,
we can edit all the, uh, blue dub.
Why?
Now I am.
Let's edit everything out,
so nobody even understands why we're calling him a champ popular in blue nephew.
Okay, three players.
Let's call them heroic Huey, blue nephew,
and lazy Louie ended up in combat,
and lazy Louie found himself in death saves.
As heroic Huey and blue nephew stared at each other
helplessly with Naria healing spell between them,
I suddenly remembered something and reminded them that they were given healing potions
a few sessions ago.
Silence for a moment.
Then heroic Huey stated that he didn't think his character knew what a healing potion
was.
Is that what he's like?
I'm like, I'm the original ones.
They changed the voices later.
And Blue nephew said that since she didn't think of it,
her character didn't think of it.
I would say that.
I would say that.
Me as Blue Neffu, not me as Blue Neffu.
Yeah, that's what Blue Neffu would do.
No, but he would do that.
Blue Neffu would do that.
That's a Blue Neffu do.
We've been playing it together for a couple of years
at this point and definitely used healing potions
in the past with these very characters.
I tried pointing this out to heroic Huey
and blue nephew to no avail.
I'm sure heroic Huey and blue nephew
didn't have it out for lazy, Louie,
lazy Louie, since we were all good friends, IRL.
I have no idea why heroic Huey and blue nephew
reacted like this, except for perhaps they were worried about medicaming,
was I overstepping to remind Heroic Huey
and Blunefue about their forgotten healing potions.
PS, where was our DM during all of this?
Let's call him, well they wrote, let's call him,
Hake Jirwitz, but I guess we can call me Uncle Scrooge.
Uncle Scrooge, yeah, picture uncle Scrooge.
All right, great.
Do you guys, did you follow what happened?
Yeah, I mostly was listening for the names.
Mm-hmm.
All right, great.
So, Blue and FU, and what was the Huey?
A railroad.
A railroad, yeah.
Heroku is not heroic in this moment.
Yeah, no, unfortunately.
Yeah, they're like the role playing to purposely,
the like avoidance of meta gaming to the disservice of the game
is silly, is very silly to me.
Is this being like, yeah.
Is that like though this is their friend
and the person who was down,
is the person who wrote it, the person who was down.
Yeah, I think so.
So they must be thinking like, oh, your character is down.
So you can't remind us that you have a healing potion.
But the characters, yeah.
Almost like they're shutting that down
or something because they need that medigame.
But they said, so the Dewey, Blue Nephew.
Yeah, yeah.
Blue Nephew said that their character didn't remember
because they didn't remember.
That is kind of annoying, but I get it.
Like I get where they're coming from.
They just like, don't help me.
The heroic Huey being like,
I don't know what a potion is.
It's just, you know, I don't know,
like, is that what you wanna do with D&D?
It's just like run around screaming,
scared of every spell you see,
like just being like, I don't know what these things are.
It's just, you look in the world,
there are potions in the world,
you're fighting goblins and stuff,
like you use potions,
it's just not that weird.
I kind of agree.
It's like an epic.
I kind of agree that where was your DM?
Because I do, like, though I would not do this myself,
I can understand getting the hint from the other player,
feeling a little like, oh, is this,
I can understand synthesizing.
Blue that you wasn't as long.
The D, it should have been the DM, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Because you can step out of the game for a second.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, I think they actually have a healing potion.
Yeah, because your character,
there's a level of medigaming.
Oh, DM has so much on their plate.
There's a level of medigaming that's,
it's not,
Uncle Scrooge has got a lot going on.
There's a lot of business.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I feel like when we, in the past,
when someone's gone down, even at our table,
we're like, you know, you try to think of something,
and then you're like, and then you go to a moment of like,
shit, is there anything I can do?
You're gonna kind of say that out loud.
That's great.
And inviting a little bit of like,
you, someone pointed out.
So maybe you're too fast.
I'm reading between the lines,
but maybe it was just like, you know,
not letting somebody know what they wanted to do
with their turn, you're like,
you guys have healing potion, give it to me or something.
It's a level of metagaming that actually like leads,
it makes sense for the role play.
It actually makes more sense for the role play,
because in, you know, in real life,
you're taking long breaks between D&D sessions.
In D&D, it's like in these life or death situations,
you remember it yesterday, when someone gave you a healing potion. Totally. Yeah. This is what D&D, it's like in these life or death situations, you remember it yesterday,
when someone gave you a healing potion.
Yeah, yeah.
This is what D&D is fun, is because it is like,
it's a good contrast.
It is a game, but it is also a story.
And you get the best of both you two both.
Right, you get to do a character that rules.
Like you remember shit like this
and you just have potions like a fix thing.
To me, this isn't even meta gaming,
this is just, it is a game.
You're not actually a warrior.
I do wonder if the strategy for working with these,
with your other companions in the future
is to be like, as I roll my desk save,
I toss and turn in the throes of near death
and oops, out of my bag,
I say healing,
I'm so sad. It's just on the ground now. in the throes of near death and oops out of my bag. They say healing comes out.
It's just on the ground now.
Yeah, with my last gasp of life, I unzip my fan.
You're like, do you think that Hero Qey was like trying to give
himself like a character moment later on?
By being like, oh, I didn't remember.
I could have saved them.
It's so strange.
I think it's just being annoying.
I think some people are just,
some people are just really annoying.
I think some people don't want like the battle to feel
like a collaborative, like collaborative.
Yes, yes, yes.
And I understand that that is some people's taste.
It's just not my taste.
So I'm always like, I didn't get it.
I just didn't really get it.
I kind of like it to be a board game. Yeah, if there's a situation where it's like, I don't know, you're getting chased by
you know a trap or something like a boulder comes down and you're getting chased by a boulder and there's a new player
That's running. It's like I can't get away. I don't know how to get away and someone else at the table says you have action surge
That to me is not really metagaming because the character would know their abilities.
They would have known then thinking.
Like if you're saying, I don't know what to do here.
Like I think you are inviting people to kind of help out.
Yeah, it's a little different.
It's different if they're like, it's different
if they're telling you you're every mover.
You should cast this spell or do complicated things.
If someone is like, give me a bardic and you,
yeah, give me blush and then I'm gonna go and
do this.
Yeah.
I can't tell you how many times Jake and Emily
have had to be like, hey, you know you can stun people
as solid.
And that's fine.
Yeah.
I've never said it.
I am always usually faster, but I think you're good.
Yeah.
Yeah, help your friends. Yeah, I also think that like the idea of initiative
is really helpful because there would be hair trigger
like closer moments, but I feel like,
like I have more sympathy if it's like,
oh, you're in separate rooms.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Something like that, and it's like,
we wouldn't be able to talk to each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But like if you're all in battle together,
it feels like there would be some overlap with shouting anyways. Yeah, yeah. But like if you're all in battle together, it feels like there would be some overlap
with shouting anyways.
Right, yeah.
If this were to happen,
they would just take lazy Louie to Gyro Gearloose's lab,
and they would be able to revive him in some way,
with some sort of kooky machine.
Of course.
Yeah, Murf go get the Gyro,
the other guy,
do you lose?
Gyro Gearloose, just Louie.
Yeah, sorry.
He's Scrooge McDuck's prized inventor that works for him at the factory. Really? You lose. That's how you're losing. Just losing. Yeah, yeah. Sorry.
He's Scrooge McDuck's prized inventor
that works for him at the factory.
Really?
Yeah.
Is he Blue Nephi's true father?
There are some online theories.
We really?
No.
Really?
Oh.
I don't know.
He's a likey chicken man.
Blue Nephi just feels like he doesn't fit in.
It's true.
The Nephi needs his own story, yeah. Blue Nephi just feels like he doesn't fit in True, I think you need his own story
Whenever he just feels like I mean my great uncle calls me the third one like what am I supposed to do with that?
I don't know blue and Fee and with that I think okay, we're gonna have to serve this
These players some yeah, I think a player. Let's go. Oh, well, um, Huey doing Louis came from eggs
So we'll give him some hot eggs Yeah, I didn't do a player. Let's do it. Oh, well, Huey doing Louis came from eggs,
so we'll give him some hot eggs.
Oh.
Some liquid metal Halloween.
I wonder what happens.
I wonder what happens.
Disney World style would be a character breakfast,
but a character skater, ladies.
And so they're even more top heavy.
And the suits are boiling hot.
This is the right boiling hot.
The touch.
Yeah. That's all. The suits are hot. Yeah. The suits are on hot. This is for boiling hot. The touch. Yeah.
That's the suits are hot.
Yeah.
The suits are on on the outside.
Yeah.
It's a cool thing to do.
It's a cool thing to do on the inside, of course.
It's a good thing.
Oh, wow.
If you touch Louis or Hughie or Dewey, it hurts.
Yeah, it hurts.
It burns.
It's touching a hot stuff.
You wouldn't think that feathers could be hot,
but these are just so hot, so hot.
Everywhere they walk, they burn from her身 to the ground.
It's just so steep.
But I don't know why you're upset
because you signed to release when you walked in.
Yeah, so I don't know why you're telling me.
Huey, Dewey, and Louis can be mean to you,
and they can spill eggs on you.
And they're hot to touch.
But if you call, do we blue net view,
then you can have a one on one aside with blue.
So this is like, there's like an interactive theater thing going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It becomes sleep no more.
What a Huey, Darryl and Moe.
Blue nephew is like,
I'm with Moe.
I have something to show you.
I cannot believe their voices sounded like that.
How did anyone understand it?
How did Jill and I understand it?
Yeah, you didn't have to.
You just need't know that.
Okay, I see.
You knew it on emotional level.
You were just watching Scrooge swim and money.
Yeah.
Did Scrooge speak normally?
Yes.
You just got a shakset.
Yes, it's true.
So was the idea that the Huey-Dewy and Louis
just had baby voices?
No, so in the game,
were you going to talk like that forever?
Before Scrooge McDuck is around,
they're hanging out with Donald,
and they sound like Donald. They're like baby Donalds, essentially. So they all have that. Wait, Scrooge mcduck is around there hanging out with Donald and they sound like Donald
They're like baby Donald's essentially so they all have that
Scrooge mcduck isn't Donald duck no
Okay, oh my god. Here we go. I just always thought that it was you know how like you know how like let's look at the duck family tree
The family man, it's so thick
Krishna is a manifestation of a deity
I assumed that like I assumed that Scrooge McDuck
was like a manifestation of Donald.
Scrooge and Donald, I believe, are, no, Donald
is Scrooge's nephew as well.
It's nephew's not what we do.
It's like a great, love.
We're talking about the ducks.
It has to go on short rest.
That's really fair, let's talk.
We're opening the duck family tree.
We will pull up, yes, we will pull up the Duck Family Tree.
On the first thing we promise we'll get to this.
It's the very first thing we'll talk about.
I can tell you there's a duck named Gladstone Gander.
Oh absolutely.
Oh that fucking duckies.
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Okay, in the meantime, we can close this one out by stepping into church and hearing a confession
from Cal, just Cal.
Cal writes.
Cal just Cal.
Not a case, but a confession.
For all members of the church,
regardless of their standing in other areas,
thank you.
I bring forth the sin of the false failure.
My players were in a forest and being followed
by some bad guys.
The bad guys got caught by players' perception check
and a brief initiative followed.
The warlock in my party cast a spell
that required a saving throw from my dude
who failed with a five.
But I thought that was kind of boring.
So I said they rolled in net one.
Everyone laughed and enjoyed the momentous failure.
But I felt like I cheapened the critical fail for future roles.
Could I be forgiven?
I haven't fudged a net one since.
And this stands as the only memorable time I've lied about a role.
PS, I don't really care if the bailiff of Dungeon Court
forgives my sins.
As his opinion means so little.
Wow, thank you.
PS hit the show.
PS hit the show.
PS hit the show.
You know, we've never had a case like this
or a confession like this where it's
swapping a failure for a worse family.
Or normally we do with scoundrels.
Yeah.
This is kind of like going to a job interview
and being like my biggest weakness
is that I work too hard.
Well, it's not so.
I do appreciate this person bringing this, right?
Because it still is disrespecting the number
that was rolled on the die.
Because I definitely have had those moments where it's like,
you fail, but it's not funny enough.
And it just feels like, okay.
Now in the future when like your bad guys pants would fall down,
like it's just gonna feel cheapened, right?
Because you don't get the NAT1, it's not as silly as maybe
you'd like for it to be.
And if everything was all NAT1s, then NAT1s,
like if you increase the rate of NAT1s,
NAT1s will get to a point where they're over-saturated
and therefore less charming.
The NAT1 is comical, and try to be comfortable comical, which is why you were tempted to say it.
Space line apart.
Yeah.
Right.
You know, I honestly, it shows integrity that you brought this, I think.
Yeah.
I think so.
Do you think we should make them do some sort of nat one hail Mary situation where they
have to like, repeat something?
Wait, what are those kick ups?
The kick ups?
Yeah, yeah.
What are they called?
It's a kick-up.
It's a kick-up.
Is it a pull-up and a kicking off the ground?
Is a kick-up just mean to use your momentum, I think?
I thought kicking up was just moving your momentum.
I think they should do five kick-ups.
Five kick-ups?
Yeah.
And you have to chew each time.
And you can have a whole one.
And a warm brunch.
And a whole one.
Have a warm brunch.
You have to drink a... A warm warm brunch. You have to drink a,
a warm,
you have to drink a mimosa that's been boiled
but has cooled down to warm to,
and like maybe there's a one in 20 chance
that one of the eggs is not gonna be cooked
Ramona Quimbee style.
Yeah, basically you can be a bus boy at Hot Branch.
Yeah.
So you can finish the mimosa's as they cool off.
What is Ramona Quimbee style?
It's a children's book where Ramona thinks that her egg is hard boiled and she smacks it on her head
and then it runs down her face and it's just a runny yoke.
Oh, okay, okay.
You only know the busy world of Richard's character.
Yeah.
Sorry, it cuts her to deep.
Sorry, my character's right apples.
So that's all I know.
I'm a worm wife and I live in the dirt.
And with that one, I don't matter. And'm a worm wife and I live in the dirt And with that one I don't matter and wrap this one up so forgiven so forgive so forgiven five kid ups and
So forgiven then so forgiven
Sweet you can listen to the duck family tree. We're really gonna dive into this
We're not gonna do any are we I think all we're not gonna dive into it too deep. I think we're gonna dive into it deep. Well, we're not gonna dive in, we're gonna climb up. Jake, back me up, we're gonna dip our toe. What I really like is this tension here, because that's what's gonna make people tune in.
So I'll say, yeah, we're not gonna dive in too much.
We're not gonna dive in too much.
You can't even know what we won't dive in at all.
If you're in it, you're in it, you're in it.
It's the thing.
Okay, we're gonna be cat stuck in this tree.
Okay, so we'll see what happens in the tree.
And then we're gonna dive in the tree.
Okay, so we're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree.
We're gonna dive in the tree. We're gonna dive in the tree. We're gonna dive in the tree. We're gonna dive in the tree. We're gonna dive dive into much. You can't know what we won't dive into at all. You're in it, you're in it, you're the thing. Yeah, okay.
We're gonna be cat stuck in this tree.
Okay, so we'll see what happens.
Head on over to patreon.com slash nat pod.
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Wee!
Wee!
Don't do it.
We've got some things to plug.
We've got some live shows coming up.
That's right.
Yes, we do.
We just started a bunch and there was so
fun. Oh yeah. And the Midwest was awesome. I love I've never been to Madison or
been walking I loved them both. Yeah. And of course Chicago and Minneapolis were
gorgeous as well. And we had a great a great two live dungeon court shows. There's
a dungeon court show in your in your town come check.
Yeah, you might have seen a picture on our Instagram of Jake getting caked.
We all decided to take the punishments for our players,
for all the people in the audience.
And Jake accepted a caking and it was beautiful.
And it was your first cake, right?
That was my first cake. I tried it.
So Jake is getting into cake.
Or he got it.
Not really for me.
Not really for me.
All right.
I also want to shout out all the people that were training little bracelets.
Oh, yeah.
Bracelet.
Oh, yeah.
Bracelets.
That was really, really fun.
I really like the swifty bands.
I really got it.
I love those tickets.
You can come see us for Dungeon Court in Los Angeles on October 26th.
Yeah, baby.
Denver. We're going to be doing an actual play. October 27 baby. Denver, we're gonna be doing an actual play.
October 27th.
Denver, we're coming back for you.
Sacramento, October 28th, and then
rounding that out with Portland for dungeon court.
Yes.
I cannot believe children just endured this.
I was like the 40s, you know.
New Orleans on November 14th, Orlando on November 15th,
and finally rounding it out with Fort Lauderdale
for Dungeon Court on November 17th
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Yeah baby.
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Doster, Annie M, Lauren H. Talia Ryan S. The Bone Duster
Annie M.
Faye Fluffes The Fluffyest Of All Archfaye
Melissa, Bob Business Illustrator
I'd like to see this new restaurant we're talking about, Hop Branch
Ploups, Carly A. Conner S. Sileal, Leviathan
Bioquart 7, Ember Dextrous Sullivan H.
Trabhop Dropper Jack H. Crapster Champion of Crott Scuttling Sideways Tots Tomorrow
Lindsay W. Steel Birdie Velen Carlin C. Emily S.
Souls Slimey Spunk Hashtag Release The Sweet Blue Hulk Souls, slimy, spunk, hashtag release the sweet blue ho-cat!
Oh my goodness, James G, everything begoat, the allodron who just wants to hang up with his pet badger stripy is so much to ask, huh?
I'm Milwaukee Nierke, that's an inside joke to you.
I like so.
Daddy, master, dandy, Eric B, stars and Roses for Han forever can't wait for Carnegie Hall!
Marcus learns the balance druid, Dakota James P, Frida M, Pogos, Patrote, Self-pluglaimed
Faye Prince until Halloween 2023 stay tuned, I will.
Tracy P, the Grick L. Flabrarian Maggie S, C, U, N, Chicago
Hally Haina, Kristen Z,
Leah Hunter H, Mayby, Pixel Stars,
Akash T, Andrew, Grick, Plainswalker
Duh for this, Cal, just Cal, Edison N, Russell H,
a monk named Dilgo, Cody Care,
Voice Hover and Guitar Holder of entirely
unacclaimed absurdist punk band The Golly G Willikers!
Our friends Simon running lines with Samuel Allen is dream hoping to inspire a new story
role at performance check.
Keychains pentium-2 processor, Lora Lai the succubus, and Kyra Herb Busty Queen.
Matt M, your friendly neighborhood, Yant and Youngcle, Andrew and Sid.
See you in Minneapolis, I bet we already did see you.
That was a fun.
John Adams, yes, like the president.
Meg, the male carrier of Bahumia.
We met you in the Midwest.
It's good to meet you. James F. Jimmy A. M4L Austin S. Night of the Living Fulster.
Way fairer briefly warped out of the fair arm to a strange city god mini apple hiss.
Okay, I remember, I remember Shane C. Barpo, good barrel, Bart Barian. Mary Beth C. C. Y'all in Chicago and New York.
Contender in the making.
Three awakened gooses.
Welsh Linder.
Garrett G. One Big Curd.
Mr. D. Talisman, the man with the lucky charms for you.
Dana the Daisy, Sean J. Ethan B, Renee the Monster Captain, Gabrielle W, Box, Clifft
didn't mill walk in here, mill walk in here. Olivia the enchanting bard who was working
hard on her audition for the lead singer of the mounting crows. Winter slayed, forced H.A.K. life is like a box of mama, tall gold
sticky buns. Rylee S. Fyco, angry huiit, J.3001. Thrath, the demon lord of spite. What a
follow, welcome. Anthony, the raddest of dudes who secured his Carnegie Hall tickets from Sylvanas, lovely partner Josh, also the finest of dudes.
Josh H, Clementine T, Caleb L, Fairy followers say, Hi!
Hashtag called her will call, come call again.
Kinship Dumbledore, the bear onesie wearing Barbarian.
MJ, the BFG, drinking tea by the sea.
Little Ferret pal!
Dogs of Babel, Eleanor K. Mr. Mjowski, Gino T. Mama Bell, The Silver Serpent herself,
Faneer, Knapped, Spell, The Wizard, Hannah Ross III, Derek D, Kalu Kalei can't wait to see you play at Carnegie Hall. Yay!
Tristan the talentless hunk MJ Johnson BTA workshop got engaged after the Minneapolis
live show. Yes, Jake, there. Mio's the great Alex K. Joshua P. Joshua S. Alexander.
Linz W. Angel La Pamela Sandra Rita S. This continues, you know, he's getting so we
ta.
Emma S. Red.
The reforged war forge.
Sexy little spider waiting for Merff to stop being weird about this and just date me
already.
A cat sneaking onto a plane for their first US visit.
Ooh, hard ones hot, hump gunk.
Show B, yes from the sprite girls.
Check out her new single with Lich-Nee Spears, Crypt me baby one more time.
Stale bread on a salad aka Cruton.
Jackson R, T3R HX official Ned Flanders and Estasia W the Honey Goblin
Nova be the death-cord bard Z-Borb Blake H big bev's bestie Lloyd the Rat that controls my
cerebellum Opa Remi style from Ratatou. Sally is so excited to see everyone in New York City and wants to thank her daddy, Ryan,
for getting her into D&D in that part.
She'll be see Papa Skydase, Mima Skydase, Taylor B.
Oh, it's B!
Tommy W. Mike and Lisa sending love to all of y'all, Haley the human, Megan and the big M, John Frazier
the Dice Lender, Stephanie of House in Zunza, Jake's Ramen Shop, Tracy P, Cargish, Benjamin
A, Sacrificial Otaku Penn name for Callis cousin who discovered anime and is trying to spread
the word all over Bahumia, Saf the advisor to Princess Shireblight who helped decide that it was indeed a good
idea to help out the other dragons.
A misunderstood kid who's upbringing was mostly just fine.
The terrible trio of George, Chester and Toad, Mikkel A, Shanimal, Commander of the
Fifth Anniversary Live Show, Pocket Foster Army, on GA and...
Normal ass dude.
What a one to end it on.
Thank you all so much.
We are just buzzing with your love
like the little worker bees that we are.
We love you.
Muah, muah, muah, good bye, sweeties.
That was a hit gun podcast.
Hey there, mad pulls.
Jake here to let you know about some very exciting live shows we've got coming up on October
26th.
We'll be in Los Angeles for a dungeon court live at the Palace Theater.
There are tickets still available at nadpod.com slash live in the next two nights, October
27th and the 28th will be in Denver and Sacramento for some actual play episodes.
Our other dungeon court live is sold out in Portland, so get your tickets either in
LA, Denver, or Sacramento while they last can do that over at Nadpot.com slash live.
Thanks so much, we will see you out there.