Office Ladies - Garden Party with Josh Groban
Episode Date: May 31, 2023This week we’re breaking down “Garden Party” and the ladies are joined by multi-platinum singer, songwriter, actor Josh Groban who played Andy’s brother, Walter Jr. Josh talks about how fun it... was to be on the set of “The Office” and a connection he now shares with Andy. Angela uncovers more Big Pregs Little Pregs moments and Jenna shows how this episode is up there with “Scott’s Tots” in terms of cringy. So give Mose your car and enjoy this “Garden Party”! Check out Josh Groban in Broadway’s “Sweeney Todd”: https://sweeneytoddbroadway.com/ Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestionFollow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPodCheck out Office Ladies Merch at Podswag: https://www.podswag.com/collections/office-ladies
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I'm Jennifer Fisher.
And I'm Angela Kinsey.
We were on the office together.
And we're best friends.
And now we're doing the Ultimate Office Rewatch Podcast just for you.
Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene
stories that only two people who are there can tell you.
We're the office ladies.
Hello Angela.
Hi there. Hi everyone. Helloates. Hello, Angela.
Hi there.
Hi, everyone.
Hello, hello.
Is everybody ready for a garden party?
Well, I am wearing my Connecticut casual outfit, so.
Good.
Good.
This is season eight, episode four,
written by Justin Spitzer and directed by Dave Rogers.
Here is your summary.
Andy throws a dignified garden party at Shrute Farms under the guise of impressing Robert
California, but it soon becomes clear that he is really trying to impress his parents
who clearly favor his younger brother Walter Jr. Meanwhile, Pam and Angela discover they have chosen the same name for their unborn
sons, and Jim plays a very elaborate prank on Dwight. Very elaborate. We'll get into
it, but I was like, seriously, Jim? I have so many things to say about it, and so much
male to read. I was going to say, I hope there was a fan male flurry. There certainly was.
Well, listen to kick things off for this episode. We have an interview with the one, the only Walter Jr. Josh Groban. What a wonderful
person. We had the best time talking to him. We can't wait for you to hear this interview. I was on a
high all day after we had our interview. Smiling all day. Now listen, Josh Grobin, Grammy-nominated
singer-songwriter. In 2003, he won two Billboard Music Awards for classical crossover artist
of the year and classical crossover album of the year for Closer. His first four solo
albums all went multi-platinum, and in 2007 he was the number one best-selling artist in the United States.
And as of 2022, he has sold over 25 million records worldwide.
Wow. I mean, seriously. In 2007, he starred in Natasha Pierre and the great Commit of 1812
on Broadway. He was nominated for a Tony award
for Best Actor in a leading role in a musical, and he is now currently starring in Sweeney Todd
on Broadway. It has been nominated for eight Tony Awards, including Best Actor in a musical
for Josh Groben. It is running right now through January 2024. I'm going to get to see this
in just a few weeks. I cannot wait.
I know. I wish I was with you. I'm so bombed. You're gonna have to tell us all about it.
I absolutely will. Well, I guess without further ado, here's our interview with Josh Groban.
Oh my gosh, Josh! Hello! Josh, this is so exciting.
Angela and Jenna, I'm so excited to be with you.
It's been a really long time since I've seen either of you.
Angela and I did a kind of a web thing,
a really fun comedy thing, a web series,
not too long after we filmed our episode,
but it's been a really, really long time.
And Jenna, thank you so much for reaching out
and for asking me to be part of this.
Yes, I slid into your DMs on Instagram.
You did.
And I was so happy you got back to me.
And I mean, I blew up Angela's phone.
I was like, hey, roll back.
She did.
She said, yes, he said, yes.
I saw it.
So thrilled.
And that was very similar to how I wound up being on the office. In general, it was a DM slide. Okay, we wanted to ask you about this. You have to share with everyone.
We always ask everyone, how did you get your part on the office? So you have to tell the story.
Well, I mean, I can imagine that I was very similar to many people who were asked to be on the show,
and that we were all just enormous fans of the show. And so to get a request to say,
hey, this might be a fun thing for you to do,
was just like finding the golden ticket.
It was an amazing thing.
So Mindy Caling did the DM slide on the old Twitter.
Remember Twitter?
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
Those were the days.
And so Mindy sent me a message saying,
hey, we're writing an episode.
And we think there might be a role saying, hey, we're writing an episode and we think there
might be a role that would be really fun for you.
Are you in the LA area during this date?
And I was on tour at that time.
I was actually doing a really, really big tour at that time.
And so I really didn't think when she mentioned it that I would have any time at all and it
was going to absolutely crush my soul to not be able to do it.
But it landed right when I was playing L.A.
And so during my time off between shows, I was able to take a little road trip up to
Shrewd Farms.
And it was the best recharge I could have possibly imagined.
It was so fun.
I mean, I talk about it even to this day.
It was really one of my most favorite days
that I've ever had in the business or out of the business.
It was just the best.
Oh my gosh, so what made it so fun?
What'd you love about it?
Well, I mean, having done now some TV since then,
I can tell you that shooting at a lovely outdoor estate is a delight. To not
be at a sound stage, to not have to spend 15 hours in a little box of a room where you're
not seeing daylight and to be able to shoot a on a beautiful setting. But then also, again, as a fan of the show,
to sometimes when you make a guest appearance on a show,
you're doing it with one person or two people from the show
and you're part of like a little arc
that doesn't involve other people in the cast.
And so to be part of a everybody together
doing a party scene
meant that as a fanboy of the show,
I got to sit and just be around the entire cast
for the entirety of the day.
And so it was just, I felt like I'd kind of
like won an auction or something
that like come hang it's root farms with the cast of the office.
It was the best.
And of course, because you're sitting around a lot
during shooting of something,
there's just a lot of time to just get to know everybody
and get to know the writers and the wonderful crew
and just chat with everybody.
And it was just such a dream.
I loved location episodes just for that reason too.
There was a lot of hanging out.
I have a picture of us just all
casually on the porch at Shrute Farms. And we're just chatting and we were also charmed by you, Josh.
We were so excited. And I know I was trying to play it cool. I'm sure Jenna too, because we're
two of the biggest dorks ever. But you are instantly, you are instantly Andy's brother. It was crazy. It was so perfect.
I loved that they wrote, you know, sometimes I play like myself. Yeah, like Parks and Rec, you played yourself.
Like it parks and Rec, I played myself and Glee, I played myself.
I'm just one of those people, like because my music side is like so serious, like whenever
somebody wants me to play a bizarre version of me, it just like
lets me kind of let that other side play around a little bit. And so I say yes to playing
myself weirdly sometimes. This was an opportunity like this was really, really fun to play Andy's
brother. And when Mindy and BJ kind of laid out for me, you know, what the story is, the
jealousy, the sibling rivalry and the jealousy and why, you know, what the story is, the jealousy, the sibling rivalry,
and the jealousy, and why, you know, I got to be Walter Jr., and they passed over, you know,
Ed. Yeah, the name is it. Yeah, exactly. It just every bit of it was so funny to me.
My brother and I have the same birthday four years apart. So we had our own little sibling, we've never had any rivalry,
but he's now my best friend and he's the best. But when you have to share a birthday,
there's that weird sibling tension when it's like four and eight.
Yeah, how do you do that party for both a four year old and an eight year old?
Yeah. We discovered very early on that all, you know,
because parties are organized by the parents at that age.
The kids, we're not in charge of presence,
that we're just kids.
So we realized very early on that the parents,
if they knew that it was also big brother,
Josh's birthday, they would bring a little extra present,
you know, we got to bring a nice present, that's also. So we had, we figured out early on that same
birthday meant double the presents. And so, uh, so we mean, we had a little deal. We had
a little work. You made it work. Yes, we made it work. Yeah. One of the things I loved
in rewatching this episode was that Andy's brother seems like he genuinely just loves Andy.
He's his bro-nard and he was so excited to meet Tuna.
Yes, exactly.
He clearly looks up to his brother and I thought that was really nice.
Whatever Andy's feeling, I didn't feel like his brother was trying to stir the pot.
Totally.
I think that a lot of it is, you know, is within Andy. There's a lot of,
there's a lot of stuff that Andy's kind of like, you know, needs therapy about, but it's, it's,
and that's that can happen. Maybe at some point, there was a little bit of that rub,
but I think that now it's like everybody's grown up, and I think that truly, I felt one of
the things I loved about Walter Jr. is that he's like this super talented golden retriever
that just doesn't know.
He's like, oh, yeah, sure, I'll go fetch that acoustic guitar
and sing this beautiful and jealous song for all of you.
And Andy, it's just eating him up inside.
And I think that that kind of lack of awareness
was one of the things that really made
that dynamic really adorable and really
fun.
And, you know, I think the parents knew better a little bit, but I don't think Walter
Jr. knew better.
I think Walter Jr. is just, you know, living his dream.
And it's like, there's always those people out there that just have that little extra
serotonin that you're just like, how, that must be nice.
How do you, how do you, God, if I could live in that brain for just one day, that would be really, really
fun.
And I think that Walter Jr. is one of those people where he keeps falling up.
And Andy's just had to be kind of next to that at all times.
And a side note to that, which is really funny because now I'm doing Sweeney Todd, is that
one of my other very favorite episodes of the office is the Sweeney Todd episode.
And it's one that we all kind of quote
and love very much backstage at our Sweeney Todd,
is that of course Andy, you know, is in Sweeney Todd
and is Antony in Sweeney Todd.
And now you're in Sweeney Todd, but you're the lead.
And you're on Broadway.
Yes, so you have bested him again.
I have bested him yet again.
And that is the universe being so weird and so wonderful.
And so yes, yeah, it's great.
But I'm hoping at some point, Ed and I can really
kind of sit down and have a proper talk and hug it out.
That would be awesome.
When you were on set, Josh, did you ever break in a scene?
Oh, yeah, all the time.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I guess one of my questions for you, because I was only,
I did two episodes and spent a day doing each episode,
but I kind of wanted to ask you guys as well.
You know, was there always room for improv on your days?
Because the scripts were brilliant.
Each one, every time I read it, it was so conversational
and it felt so natural.
And there were oftentimes things that were written
that if I hadn't known, it was written.
I would think, oh, that must have been an improvised line.
And that's just how wonderful it was.
But there was such wonderful improv happening at Shrute Farms.
Everybody was just kind of pitching things
and even off camera.
Just so everybody's just so funny.
K-flinery was always finding new ways
to like get me, you know?
And with like the idea of like pulling my vocal cords out
of my throat, you know that kind of thing.
And so yeah, I mean, was that always encouraged
or was that something that kind of developed over time
or was that just the writing made that something that kind of developed over time or
Or was that just the writing made it seem that way at all times? It was sort of all of those things. I mean it did always start with an amazing script
But it was always a living breathing thing so the writers of that episode and the producers would come down and
They were always
pitching alternate lines pitching
Yeah, and they would throw them out to the actors or the actors might have an idea They were always pitching alternate lines. Pitching. Yeah.
And they would throw them out to the actors,
or the actors might have an idea in the moment.
And it was always allowed.
Yeah.
You know, as long as we had gotten it in a scripted way,
at least once, then we could play around.
Right.
That's really cool.
And also just being kind of like an outsider in the group,
I had not done a lot of acting at that time,
and I had certainly not done a lot of comedy acting at that time.
And so to be around so many very funny,
very talented people,
we got to like share stories about like our different worlds.
Like so what's touring like, you know,
and so you know, it actually kind of turned into like
a real garden party, but like we just,
you know, just getting yogurt from craft.
And you know, it was was just really, really fun.
Really cool.
It was a hot day though, remember that?
It was so hot that day.
I found an email that Jen and I traded back and forth
about how hot it was and how that they had
these huge tubes of air.
And we were all fighting about where you could sit.
So the tube of air would hit you.
And they turned them on whenever we took a break in scenes
and everyone would like go around the tube,
except in this email I said, unfortunately,
Ellie was sitting basically right on top of the tube.
Like the tube kind of came right out to her chair.
And she was freezing and the rest of us were like,
pull the tube this way, we're running up.
Apparently the tubes were a big deal during the shoot.
Wow.
And she was even pepier in those scenes.
And that's the reason why.
Oh my God, that's so funny, every gathering around the coolant tube.
Yeah, it was very, very hot.
You said you hadn't done a lot of acting but you had just been in crazy stupid love with Steve
Crouch. That's actually true. Which is crazy. Which was like one of my first things that I ever did.
You know, outside of music and that was not a DM slide getting it. Steve Steve did not do it.
It was proper. Did not slide into my DMs for that role. I still wish that was the story behind that
though. Can we just say that that's what it was.
I want to rewrite this.
No, here's the thing.
No, it was, that was such a fun shoot as well.
It was again, just a couple days.
We shot at the Glendale Galleria.
And we shot all night at like an El Torrito.
I know the Glendale Galleria.
Yeah.
Yeah, the Glendale Galleria.
Every time I drive by it, getting onto the 101. I was like,
yeah, that's, I had a lot of tortilla chips. Yeah. That's where I had my first on-screen kiss.
But weren't you a theater major? I was a theater major, but I got plucked out of college when I got
a recording contract. It was a weird fork in the road and one that has, you know, afforded
me some extraordinary experiences like this one. But it was my first love was was doing
theater. My first and my first love before that was doing comedy and doing improv. I was
very lucky to do a lot of improv in high school and junior high school. It kind of like got
me out of my shell when I was really, really shy and having a hard time making friends
and my grades weren't great. I just was kind of trapped.
And joining the school improv troop and being able to be part
of a youth second-city class when I was 11
and being part of the LA Connection Comedy Theatre
in the Valley when I was 13 and 14.
Those kinds of improv games were so good for that muscle
and my brain that had not been activated at that point
and was so great for me being social and being able to, because improv is all about kind of saying
yes and really listening and being part of that and when you're closed off as a kid, those things
kind of get stunted and so it was finding the rhythm of comedy was something that really got me
out of my shell long before finding the rhythm of music.
And then that fork in the road happened.
And it's been the most incredible journey of my life to be able to be a solo artist,
to make music and sing for people.
But every time I've had an opportunity to step back into the camaraderie of acting and
comedy and theater, it's an absolute blast.
You are speaking to my improv heart.
My improv heart is singing. I've moved around a lot as a kid.
And one of the ways I would connect is through improv class or sketch comedy
and just being an outsider, it was a way in.
And I actually had my kids do an improv class.
And it was so adorable. And at the the same time the very first minute I sat there
on their performance night and they came out and they started doing these improv games that I had done.
I started crying. My husband was like, I don't think you should be crying. But I was just like,
I'm so moved that these same games are there and it's yes and in the moment and listening and trust.
And trust. There's so much trust involved in it.
And the idea is nothing like it in the world.
The idea of going out, not knowing what's going to happen.
And trusting yourself and trusting the people that are around you.
I just recently did four or five performances of this wonderful show
that was on Broadway.
It's not there anymore.
It's called Free Style Love Supreme, which is kind of a music.
It was like a music improv show that Lin-Manuel Miranda and a number of other incredible
freestyle rappers and musicians kind of put together. And it's comedy, it's rap, it's music,
and they said, hey, will you come out and like sing and improvise love song every night?
We'll interview an audience member, and then we'll come up with a song together.
And every single time, you know, I asked Lin, like, do you have any advice for how to make the successful?
And he said, yeah, the first thing is,
take a half shot of whiskey.
Second thing is, don't prepare anything.
You're gonna be really tempted to write lines
that you're gonna wanna, you know,
shoehorn into the song because you think they're clever
and whatever else.
And he said, that part of your brain
that has lines prepared is gonna be clashing with the part of your brain that's going to be receiving what the night is giving
you and what the audience is giving you, and it's going to make you stumble. So go out
there with a clear mind, open heart, and a lot of trust, and it'll come. And then like
the first time I went out there, it was like gangbusters, it was great. Second, I'm thinking
that was a fluke. And the second night, it was gangbusters. And that's just, and it just was that way every time you just trust that it's going to be there for you.
And it's for kids, it's why I'm such a proponent of these kinds of experiences for young students,
because those moments, those aha moments, those little light bulb flips change the course of a young
person's life, even if they don't go into the arts and comedy and theater
and music. In fact, many times they won't, but it will make them a far more well-rounded
and confident doctor and lawyer, and the people that come up to me in jobs that are not considered
creative that said that arts and comedy and improv and musical theater and all that stuff
changed the course of their life. It's incredible.
Josh, I was trying not to fan-girl too hard at the beginning of this life, it's incredible. Josh, I was trying not to fan girl too hard
at the beginning of this interview
and now you have made it impossible.
Yeah, forget it, forget it.
Well, I am speechless.
That was beautiful.
I'm trying not to do the same thing.
I will say there's also a really, I think.
So I mentioned the LA Connection Comedy Theater,
which is a wonderful place.
I spent like a few months doing classes there
and doing some stuff there.
I was like 16, they were really cool to me
and they really provided me with a wonderful opportunity there.
I think there's a very odd mural of me
on the side of the building, like me and some other alumni
that went there.
I think Will Farrell is painted up there.
I think Matthew Perry is painted up there.
There's some discussion of whether it's me or Keanu Reeves painted up there. I think Matthew Perry is painted up there. There's some discussion of whether it's me
or Keanu Reeves painted up there,
but I don't think Keanu Reeves went
to the Ellen's Comedy Theater.
So.
I think this is a mom detective moment, Jenna.
I think we need to drive over there.
We will check this out for you.
I believe it's on Ventura Boulevard.
And it's like directly across from like one of those
Halloween, you know,
costume and story and stories, you know, somebody sent it to me on Twitter. And then I was,
I was looking for a costume last minute, last Halloween. And I was like, Oh, yeah. Oh,
my girlfriend just sent me this picture. Your listeners can't look at it. But this is
the wall. Yeah. Yeah. If you send that to us, we'll put it on the office lady's pod Instagram.
Yes, that's you.
That is you.
But it could be Keanu as well.
But it could be Keanu.
It could be Keanu.
It could be Keanu.
Well, we need to find out if Keanu ever took improv class there.
If he didn't, then it's definitely you.
And Matthew Perry, my goodness.
I have to say Matthew Perry also kind of looks like Kiana.
But also kind of looks like Dwight.
This is here.
It's a way he's very pointed.
You're right.
It's got the shrewt part.
The shrewt part.
The shrewt part.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Well, there's a lot of artistic interpretation
with this mural.
Yes, there are. But anyway, big thanks to the only connection comedy theater. Well, before we a lot of artistic interpretation with this mural. Yes, there are.
But anyway, big thanks to the LA Connection Comedy Theater.
Well, before we let you go, will you tell us about Sweeney Todd?
Are you going to be in Sweeney Todd until January 2024?
I am.
Yes, so this is a role that I've loved ever since I was a little,
you know, baritone that couldn't dance and thought that's the role for me.
I really, I love song times music.
You know, we all, everybody who's in this cast
has loved this show since we were little
to have the opportunity to bring it to Broadway
in a really large revival has been a dream.
So when Tommy Kailer, director, kind of said,
hey, you know, if we're gonna do this,
I really think we should think about like doing it,
you know, really diving in and saying,
this is what we're gonna chisel for a year of work.
And obviously it's a big commitment,
but it's one that's been super worth it for me
to dive into, we're having an amazing time.
And it's also funny, like there's parts
where the audience are just absolutely cracking up.
There's dark humor in it.
The music is some of the most extraordinary music
that I've ever heard in musical theater.
And it's a bloody good time.
We're having a really good time.
Very tired, but we're having a good time.
I bet.
I'm gonna be coming to see you in June.
The next time I'm in New York,
I'm gonna come see the show in June.
And I absolutely can't wait.
It is at the top of my list.
I'm so excited.
I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
I did. We're not going anywhere.
So good. So yeah.
That gives me time to get to New York too.
I don't have any plans to get to New York,
but now I have a reason.
So I'm going to figure out how to get there.
Come on out.
This has just been so wonderful.
I definitely want anyone listening
or office ladies fans.
If you are in New York, please go see Josh and Swini Todd.
And what a delight.
Oh my gosh, we're going to be talking about this interview for a bit.
Yeah, thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you for just the wonderful experience of being on set with you both.
And thank you for so many years of much needed laughter and smiles and love.
And I really appreciate you having me on. and Pam arriving to work because they saw Andy's new billboard. Yes, Pam arrives to work. Did you notice
in pants? I didn't know. Finally, when you are eight months and three weeks pregnant, you get to
wear pants. Well, Pam and her pants can't get over this billboard. And Jim's going to share that,
you know what, if there's an opportunity for a graffiti artist to work in a phallic image into artwork, it's going to happen.
And this is when we find out that all of the billboards have been defaced.
Yes.
Someone has put, I mean, how do you say it?
Penises all over these billboards.
Andy holds up pictures of what the billboards were before they had been defaced. He did a whole photo shoot with Dwight.
Yeah.
And you can see how one could add the penises.
Yes. In the shooting draft, the scene was described like this. We see B-roll, several billboard mockups.
The first mockup features the slogan, new low prices, shout it from the rooftops,
and shows Andy with a huge open mouth
in his hands to the sides of his mouth yelling.
The second mockup also has Andy with a wide open mouth.
One arm to the sky, singing the slogan,
low prices icing O.V.
The third mockup shows Andy closing his eyes
and raising two fists diagonally towards him.
Why are our prices so low?
My favorite part of that explanation was your gestures, Angela, which I am the only one who gets to see.
You're the only one who's been doing this, but I didn't even mean to do it as I was reading it.
I just acted out what was happening.
You sure did.
So I want to say that I believe that the idea
for this cold open was because of something
that happened to me in real life,
that I told everyone in the conference room one day
when we were shooting between scenes.
This is what would happen. This is what would happen. You would share something from your
life and all of a sudden it would end up in an episode.
So here's what happened. Angel, you know I love tiny desserts. I know you do. You know
I love a tiny little parfait cup, you know, it's in like the most like a little shot glass.
It has a teeny tiny spoon. Tiny spoon, are you love it?
Any tiny cupcake, like the tinyest cupcake ever.
Like the size of your thumb.
Yeah, like the kind that baked by Melissa does.
They're just tiny.
Oh, we love those.
They're just a bite.
So I was at an event and they had an itty bitty dessert
with a tiny spoon and I took a picture for social media
where I was holding up a little dessert in one hand.
In the other hand, I had my mouth open
and it was like I was pretending to put
the little spoon in my mouth.
Mistake.
Eh eh eh.
Yeah.
Guess what someone did with that picture?
Well.
Basically the cold open. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Well. Basically, the cold open.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And we were in the conference room,
and that's when I swear I can't remember who it was,
but one of our cast members was like, Jenna,
didn't anyone ever tell you?
You never post a photo of yourself with an open mouth
because someone will put a dick in it.
I was like, no, I didn't know.
I have such a problem with her.
I wish someone had told me.
I remembered this happening in the conference room and we were all like, no, I didn't. I have someone who told me. I remember this opening in the conference room
and we were all like, what?
And they were like, the half of the room
had never heard of this.
And the other half were like, duh.
Yeah.
It savvy.
Yeah.
And so thus, I believe is the inspiration
for this cold open.
Well, we got some fan questions about it.
Lila C and Chicago said,
were the billboards in the cold open CGI
or were they actually put up
and did rain and ed have a photo shoot for them?
Well, Steve Burgess said that we did have a photo shoot
with rain and ed and we did shoot
like toward a billboard.
It was near Disney Ranch,
which is where we shot shoot farms, but we didn't actually put the photo up on the billboard.
We did just CGI that.
So rain runs around a corner and looks at like an empty billboard,
and then we put the image CGI on it.
Yeah, luckily for Ed and Rain, those billboards and everyone up.
That's right.
We got another fan question from Kelly S.
In New Hampshire, who said, I need a standards
and practices deep dive on this cold open.
Oh, I have so many questions.
You are not going to believe this.
Do you remember when I said that I feel like there was a giant tonal shift between the way
standards and practices treated Randy Cordray and the way they treated Steve Burgess?
Yeah, there's no more as previously stated.
Listen to this, this is all they wrote.
This is what Steve said.
This is the only note they got about this whole, cold open.
It said this quote, as always, we trust the pixelation we'll cover what was drawn on the
billboard.
We trust.
We trust you.
Wow. You'll do it right. I can't wait for the first lip flap. I want to know how that email goes.
I don't think they're ever going to lip flap Steve Birch's. I don't know. They're like, it'll be fine.
Suddenly they're so okay. Oh my gosh. Well now we're ready for the actual episode to start.
There's a conference room scene and Dwight has an elaborate map that he has drawn on a
dry erase board of how to get to Shrute Farms.
He doesn't want anyone googling how to get there.
Just please follow the map.
He's drawn.
What is it with Dwight in random directions?
Do you remember when Dwight gave Andi and Angela directions to Shrute Farms?
He's determined to make it wonky. And before we get into
Shrut farms and arrive there, Jenna, I have some stuff from my digital clutter
about Shrut farms. Uh-huh. Oh, please share. I have an email from Steve Burgess
that he sent Sunday evening, August 4, 2011. Subject, Shrute Farms
location.
High team office, a couple of safety notes for our Garden Party shoot at Shrute Farms.
First and foremost, it will be hot. Please drink plenty of water and orgatorade or coconut
water in parentheses for electrolytes.
I hate coconut water.
I just think it's like, what?
Yeah!
Oh my God!
If you become this person for coconut water,
there's cause that dream.
Oh my God.
I think it tastes like...
We know what you...
Okay, fine.
We don't have to say it twice.
Why are you doubling down on this?
Do you disagree if you drink warm coconut water?
You'll never untaste it again.
No, I don't want to drink warm coconut water.
You don't because it tastes like... Oh my You don't because it tastes like a real one.
Not when someone sees you.
Oh my god.
What a taste like.
I don't even know where to go from here.
With Steve Burgess's very sweet, fatherly email,
just wanting us to stay hydrated.
Oh my god.
Well, let's see.
I will continue to read this email.
Let's see if it sparks any other strong feelings.
Patrice, who is our set medic, also will have electrolyte packs that you can add to your water bottle.
It will help if you, and then he put in bold lettering, drink plenty of water, starting the day before.
And that is today for most of us.
Steve really wanted to make sure we were hydrated.
He emailed us on Sunday saying,
start drinking water now.
That's how hot it's gonna be.
Wow, he told us to drink water in like four different ways.
Oh, it continues.
If you begin to feel the effects of the heat,
headaches, and or dizziness, or nausea,
please let us know immediately.
Now, here's the second part.
There are bees at this location.
If you know you're allergic to bees, please let us know and bring your epipen.
Bees are also attracted to some perfumes and colognes.
Please refrain from wearing them at this location.
Wow!
So, not only were we going to have to start hydrating the day before, but also no one smelled probably very good on this shoot.
It goes on.
Please read the rules and regulations
for Disney's Golden Oak Ranch.
They are attached to the call sheet.
There will be no visitors allowed, no exceptions.
Thank you.
Let's have a safe and productive week, Steve.
Then you forwarded me his email
and you added this to it, Jenna.
Okay.
Apparently you had worked already a day there
before I arrived.
Okay.
You wrote, lady, he's serious about the bees.
They are everywhere.
They got all in the food at lunch.
Oh, and there are snakes like for real.
We have a snake wrangler on set.
Rain said the last time he was here,
they actually had to remove a rattlesnake from the set.
So don't walk in any tall grass, stick to the path.
Good luck, I'm off tomorrow.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, it's funny, Angela.
I had a special meeting with Steve Burgess
before we got to Shrewt Farms because I was very
Really pregnant? Yes, you emailed me it as well. I did. Yes. There was a lot of extra safety precautions that they took for me because they were very worried about me getting overheated
Yes, you sent me an email that you're like, hey
Steve and I are trading emails about how to keep me cool and not
get too hot because I'm eight and a half months pregnant, which is one of the reasons, and I'm going
to bring it up. There is a deleted scene that you and I filmed inside just me and you so that we can
be cool. Oh, good. I'm so glad you're going to share. Well, Angela, I don't know what I love more.
Dwight's description of how to get to Shrewt Farms or the email you got from Steve Burgess telling us how to survive Shrute
Farms. They're both pretty delicious.
The folks in the conference room would like to know, why are we having this party? What
is the reason? What is the reason?
Yeah.
You don't need a reason for a garden party. It's like a birthday party.
Yes, however, Andy is going to tell you there are rules to a garden party. Many, many rules, including how to dress, how to eat,
how to behave, but it's, you know, it's going to be fun. It's casual. It's for no reason.
Well, we find out pretty quickly that not only our Andy's parents going to be there, and
it's clear that he wants to have a moment with them and impress them, and also Robert
California's invited.
Yes, it's during this scene that Andy also pulls out his laptop to show us a video of a
recent garden party that his family threw for his brother, Walter Jr.
And it's very sweet.
Walter Jr. and his dad are harmonizing.
They're singing together.
Walter Jr's boss is there looking on, impressed,
and poor Andy's in the background.
He's very jealous.
We had a fan catch from Jennifer M. in Portland, Texas.
Jennifer has been writing into us every week, Angela,
about every episode.
Ever since we shared that we had to digitally remove
all of the Apple logos from the computers in the episode
where Erin gets a new computer,
Jennifer has been tracking the Apple logos
because apparently we stopped digitizing them out.
And she mentioned that there is one here on Andy's laptop.
Jennifer, you are the doctor of the Apple logos.
Yes, nice catch.
The meeting ends with Dwight reminding everyone
to please not Google how to get to Shrute Farms.
And of course, Jim is like, why is Dwight pushing this?
What's he up to?
So Jim, Google's Shrute Farms and guess what he finds.
He finds the Street View photo of Shrute Farms and guess what he finds. He finds the Street View photo of Shrute Farms, which is a mose and dweye on a seasaw.
Shirtless on a seasaw.
Yeah.
Dwight's like, you never know when they're going to drive by.
Well, this was a callback to manager and salesmen.
Do you remember when Ryan and Dwight are out by the dumpsters and Ryan is like, did you
ever seasaw? To which Dwight replies, yes, mose and I se are out by the dumpsters and Ryan is like, did you ever see Saw?
To which Dwight replies, yes, Mose and I see Saw all the time.
Yes, this was a callback to that episode.
Ryan is saying, did you see Saw the movie?
The movie.
Yes.
Dwight is going to share that he has always wanted to break into the high event industry
for Shrute Farm.
So he's very excited about this party.
This is a great opportunity for him.
Not only that, he found a book.
There was only one in existence about how to plan the perfect garden party.
It's by James Trichington.
Yeah, he got it for only $2.
The only copy.
He makes that clear.
And he's going to follow it to the letter on how to make this amazing garden party.
Well, Jim has a talking head, and guess who James Trickington is?
Oh, I wonder who it's Jim.
Come on, Dwight.
Come on.
Also, Jim, what do you do with your free time?
You're writing a book?
Chapter 9.
Eventually, we know there's nine chapters.
Lady.
Lady.
Lady. Fan mail flurry.
I'm so glad because I wrote this.
This may be the biggest Jim prank stretch for me.
He wrote a whole book.
What the hell?
Well, Lee A. Tremontario, Canada, Maddie K.
from Texas, Brandon from New York, and many others said this.
Was it ever questioned that Jim writing an entire book
with what? A
week's notice, getting one copy published and making sure it wound up in Dwight's
hands was a little too unrealistic? Did Jim somehow manage to target
advertise it knowing that Dwight would find it and buy it? Did the cast and crew
feel this way at all? Well everyone, I'll tell you who felt the same way. Miles
McNut. Oh, Miles, please, I need to hear his thoughts on this. Well, first of all, he gave
this episode a C. Oh, who are you? And this was one of his biggest gripes. He asked the question,
are there really no books about throwing a garden party? Well, guess what?
I looked it up.
I bet there are so many.
I'm going to guess Martha Stewart has done at least one.
I thought the same thing.
Guess what?
I could not find a single book called How to Throw a Garden Party or about throwing a
garden party.
No, not a one.
You know why?
Why? Because this is not a one. You know why? Why?
Because this is not a book.
It's a pamphlet.
It may be four pages in an article.
I mean, listen, there's lots of party planning books
that include a chapter on a garden setting that I found,
but there is not a book dedicated to the garden party.
However, on Amazon, I did find several versions
of James Trickington's book.
There is one for $7.95 that is actually a weekly planner,
but it has the same cover as the one you see in the episode.
And there is another one for around $20 that includes quotes from the show
and pages for journaling.
Up next, we have some big pricks, little pricks in the break room.
Yes, Pam and Angela are in there.
Angela is eating a bowl of grapes.
Pam is eating yogurt out of a Tupperware container of banana and some chips.
I did a food breakdown.
Nice. Angela says her breasts have gone up a bra size.
It's grossing out the senator.
This back and forth conversation,
Pam is going to slip and say the name of her son.
She says, Philip.
Yes. And angels like, wait, wait, wait.
Philip is what I'm naming my baby.
And Pam's like, I'm naming Philip after my grandfather.
And Angel says, well, I'm naming my baby after my cat.
Her favorite cat.
Her favorite cat.
These have the same weight to her. Her favorite cat. Her favorite cat. These have the same weight to her.
Her favorite cat in Pam's grandfather.
So Pam and Angela both decided to name their baby's Philip
actually reminded me of something that happened with my family.
When my mom and dad were having my sister Tina,
my dad's sister was also pregnant, having a little girl.
And they lived states apart.
This was before the internet or social media when people were always checking in with each
other.
They did not know it, but they had both picked the name Tina.
And they both named their daughters Tina.
What?
Yes.
So you have a sister and a cousin, both named Tina, and they were born around the same time.
Within 14 hours of each other, two Tina's and the same family born 14 hours apart.
And I never thought anything about it my whole life because they never made a big thing
about it.
And then when I was pregnant and we were trying to pick a baby name, I was like, oh my gosh,
mom.
Aunt Louise and dad both had daughters and named them Tina.
And I was like, mom, and you know what she said? She goes, oh, and the world is big enough
for two Tina's, you know, yeah, it was such great perspective. You know, if you and someone
else, both like the same baby name, the world's big enough for both of them. Just get them
here safe and healthy. That's all that matters.
That's true. Well, next up is one of my favorite scenes. James Bader is so good that his acting
comes through in just a phone call because Robert California is going to call Andy on the phone
and mention that he has two possible host gifts for this afternoon. This is such a bizarre conversation. It is. He shares that he has a pot of
marmalade and a basil plant. He clearly wants Andy to choose the basil plant. He's really
pushing the basil plant. Why even bring up the marmalade? Listen, he mentioned the marmalade
to his sister and she really wants it. And then he shouts at his assistant to get a second
jar of marmalade because Andy clearly wants the Marmalade.
I loved it. I watched this scene.
I backed it up and watched it again
because it made me laugh.
Just his voice acting.
I know.
People are arriving now to Shrute Farms for the party.
Toby pulls up and the valet is mose.
He runs up to him and he's like,
I have to take your car.
And Toby's like, no, and then they have this struggle.
And Mo's wins and drives off in his car.
Struggle, he puts his foot up on the back of the car
and is like forcing the door open
and then drives away, he speeds away.
Very aggressive valet.
We had a fan question from Alia G and Santa Cruz, California, who said
I'm writing to ask about Mike sure as Mose in this episode.
At six minutes and 32 seconds, did he improvise the line, have a good time at the thing?
This cracks me up every time and I would love to know.
Well, I looked it up, It was not in the script.
It was also not in the script that most speeds away.
Instead, the script said he backs the car around the corner
and then drives the car through a cornfield,
mowing down a row of stalks.
At a random spot, he stops, gets out, and leaves it.
Amazing.
It wasn't Mike sure driving that car into that field, was it?
I don't think it was him driving into the cornstalks, but I think it's him speeding away.
Yeah, I mean, there's no cut. He gets in the car and speeds away, but later I don't think that's him
going into the actual stocks. I was so curious. Kevin is going to arrive. He's rocking his toupee. Nice callback.
Kelly and Aaron have their fascinators on. And Dwight starts yelling everyone's name as they arrive.
Jim has a talking head that says announcing guest arrival is the height of decorum, the more volume, the more honor bestowed.
He's written this in his book, lady. This is part of his book, and Dwight is following the rules.
You might have noticed that when Jim and Pam arrive,
they are announced as Pamela James and P.P. Helpert.
This was a callback that was improvised by Rain.
In the script, it simply said that he mumbles the baby's name.
So he would have said, James, Pamela, and Minna Helpert. But if you remember, Dwight called
their daughter P.P. in search committee, and Rain Wilson called it back. Nice, Rain. Well, Oscar
is annoyed by Andy's hovering, and Andy says to Oscar, I want everything to be nice, that okay
with you, Mabel? Mabel, Mabel, if you're able, keep your elbows off the table.
Hmm. This made me curious.
Were there other Andy etiquette sayings in the shooting draft and Jenner there were?
Really.
Mm-hmm.
This one's in deleted scenes.
Kevin is taking way too many appetizers, and Andy walks up to him and says,
Kevin, this totally reminds me of this really lame,
useful saying, I learned as a kid.
What's the difference between hors d'oeuvres
and the animals on Noah's Ark?
With hors d'oeuvres, we only take one at a time.
Oh, amazing.
So many rules in Andy's life.
Well, guess what?
The people Andy has been waiting for have
arrived. Dwight very loudly announces the arrival of Walter and Ellen Bernard. When Rain
is Dwight yelled their names, I thought the actress that played Ellen's reaction was so great.
So good. So thrown off. Like, what is happening?
Yes.
D Wallace is who played Andy's mom, Ellen.
Steve Burgess worked with her before
and was so excited to have her back on the show.
Angela, I know D, not personally,
but because she has starred in so many classic horror films,
she has like a horror queen.
I love her.
Oh, I didn't know.
She was in the original 1977 The Hills Have Eyes.
She was in the Howling, Kujo, Critters, Halloween,
Death House.
She is probably most famous for playing the mom in ET.
Yes, yes, that's how I know D.
Yes, oh, yeah.
And also Kujo, I remember Kujo scared the crap out of me. Yes
She said in an interview with entertainment tonight that she absolutely loves doing horror roles and this was I thought really funny
She said that if she had to have a career like just in comedy or something it would just be so boring
Which is so funny because she is so good in this episode.
Yeah. Everything about her is so subtle,
and I couldn't take my eyes off her.
I thought she was fantastic.
And then, Stephen Collins is who played Walter Senior.
He is very famous for playing the dad on 7th Heaven,
which he was on for 11 seasons.
I have never seen 7th heaven.
I had not either.
I missed it.
But here is the thing.
I guess I need to say you might be aware of some news that came out about Stephen in
2014.
I don't know how to say this delicately.
I know a lot of people listen to the podcast with their kids.
Yes.
So let me just say that in 2014 Stephen came forward and admitted
to some pretty disturbing behavior in his past. If you Google him, it's the very first thing
that comes up. I don't want to maybe get into too many details here, but did just want to mention that. It was long after we had filmed with him,
but yeah, it's upsetting. Okay. I'll leave it at that. Okay. We also Angela got a fan mail flurry of
people writing in to point out that these are not the people we met at Toby's going away party.
Right. When Andy proposes to Angela, yes, it cuts to his parents
and they are not the same actors.
They also do not have the same names.
They are introduced as Ellen and Andrew Bernard,
not Ellen and Walter Bernard.
Now, you know, we have the show Bible
where you have everyone's character
and their history and their origin story.
How did this happen?
Well, after we did good by Toby, we had this very funny joke in a later episode where
Andy says that his original name was Walter, that he was named after his dad.
But then later when his younger brother was born, they renamed him Andy and then called
his little brother Walter Jr.
So that was a joke That kind of went against that good bi Toby moment, but it was so funny
Sometimes when something was really funny to them they would just go against the show Bible
They were like comedy first show Bible later
But I want to share a very interesting fan theory sent in by Eva S from from Aurora, Illinois. I absolutely adored it.
Here we go. Eva says, we learned so many odd and apparently conflicting things about Andy
Bernard's family over the years that I have come up with an explanation that I think ties it all
together. Here we go. Andy was born to Walter and Ellen Bernard as we learn in this episode.
They favored his younger brother and were emotionally distant from Andy.
He grew up yearning for warm love and acceptance from a family, and this is why he's so attached
to his gam-gam.
Who we will meet later.
When Andy was still a kid, his father had an affair with his secretary, as noted in Secretary's
day.
Separating from Ellen and setting up a separate household
with the secretary and her kids.
Even though Walter and the secretary were never officially married,
this is who Andy means when he says, quote,
if it wasn't for secretaries, I wouldn't have a stepmom.
Andy got attached to her and her kids.
Even years later, he will refer to them as his brothers and sister.
And this is why he says he's wearing his sisters old field hockey skirt in St. Patrick's
Day.
And why he talks about doing puzzles with his brothers plural when we're out sailing
in PDA.
Eva goes on.
Walter Senior and Ellen end up going to the breakers in Newport, Connecticut, where they decide
not to get divorced.
Remember that was from weight loss.
So Walter, senior broke up with the secretary,
putting an end to Andy's step family,
but they stayed in his heart.
That's why he still thinks of them
as his real brothers and sister.
But why did we see Andrew and Ellen Bernard
at Toby's going away party?
Because Andy, who needs to make himself look good,
actually hired two community theater performers
to pose at his parents and act proud of him
to impress his co-workers and Angela,
and then he named his pretend father Andrew
so that he could be his father's name's sake at last.
Oh.
So those are all of her theories
that bring together all of these inconsistencies.
Eva, I think you knocked it out of the park. That all made it make sense for me.
Eva, you're doing our writers a great service.
I'm talking together. All of those loosens. I thought it was fantastic.
Well, we're going to find out that Andy's parents don't have much time to be at the garden party
because they have theater tickets to see moneyball with Andy's brother who shows up.
His bro-nard is in attendance.
Mm-hmm.
That was the shock we didn't hear him announced.
No.
I think we should take a break because things are really going to start happening at this
party.
Yes.
Now that Walter Jr. has arrived, things are going to get interesting.
We'll be right back.
We are back, and one of my favorite moments in this whole episode happens.
A crow is going to fly and steal Aaron's hat off of her head.
Yeah, I thought Ellie's reaction was so perfect.
I loved all of this.
You know me and my bird's lady.
I was like, if a bird took my hat off my head,
I would be like, this is the coolest moment.
What's happening?
We got a fan question about this moment
from Megan T. and Des Moines, Iowa, who asked,
I have to know all the details about the bird taking Aaron's hat.
Megan is like you, Angela. Megan would like to know how much did it
cost, how long did it take to train the bird, and how many takes did it take,
and how did Ellie camper feel about it because it would freak me out.
Oh, maybe she's not like you. It sounds like Megan would be freaked out.
I know, but Megan did also be kind of cool, right? Like, it'd be kind of cool.
Well, Megan, I reached out to Steve Burgess to find out how we did this.
And I'm sorry to disappoint you, but this hat gag was totally fake.
He said that the special effects team used a fishing pole and some like, you know, invisible wire to
yank the hat off of Ellie's head. She's just reacting to that. And they added
the crow later as special effects. There was no trained crow at all. That's how
well Ellie sold it. For sure. Now we're going to have a bit that is 100%
stolen from the movie Bridesmaids, where Walter Jr. introduces himself to Jim and then thinks
that Meredith is his wife Pam. And this joke is going to get repeated. This is one of my favorite
bits from the movie Bridesmaids. This happens to Chris and Wiggs' character over and over again.
Well Dwight is now going to perform a dance routine with the waitress. And then after this there would have been another scene of Dwight
making a giant ice sculpture. It's in deleted scenes. It's also in the shooting draft. Dwight has a
chainsaw and a huge block of ice. And he's really just carving away. And what he ends up with is just
something that looks like a blob. I remember this. He rolls it out and he's really proud of it.
And he says, I give you the Alamo.
But it just looks like a blob.
And then there would have been a gym talking head
where Jim would have said, chapter seven,
the host should always present something spectacular
to draw the eye of the guests.
So we're at chapter seven now.
Well, most is still managing all the cars in the parking lot.
He's parked them so close together that he exits through the sunroofs.
And we got a famed catch from Mikala G. in Wisconsin, who said, at nine minutes and 51 seconds,
when Moze is parking all of the cars in the field, there are these bright green colored
pieces of paper on all the vehicle's windshields. There are these bright green colored pieces of paper on all the vehicles windshields. What are they? Is there a deleted scene that explains what they are?
Michaela, I notice these as well, Angela. Yeah. If you actually go to two minutes and 35 seconds,
the very beginning of the episode when they're in the conference room, everyone has been handed out.
It looks like it says parking for shrewd farms, like a green flyer. Yes, Dwight has a line that was cut where he says,
rip it in thirds. One is the map, one is your invitation, and the last is your parking pass.
Just put it on your dashboard. So good catch, Michaela. Very good catch. Dwight is now going to announce the arrival of Robert California.
He like rolls his arm for so long. In the shooting draft Jenna, right after Robert arrives
in true Robert California dramatic fashion, he goes and he stands by a tractor.
He gazes out around the farm and then he turns to camera and he says this.
I have the clip. Let's hear it. So much depends upon a red wheelbarrow glazed with rainwater
beside the white chickens. William Carlos Williams.
Beautiful. And then he dramatically walks away.
I looked up William Carlos Williams,
according to the Poetry Foundation.
He was a medical doctor, poet, novelist, essayist,
and playwright.
Williams was a leading poet of the imaginist movement
and often wrote of American subjects and themes.
Though his career was initially overshadowed
by other poets, he became
an inspiration to the beat generation of the 1950s and 60s. He was known as an experimenter
and innovator, a revolutionary figure in American poetry. It's very random. I wonder which
of our writers is a poetry fan and knew about him. I know, because that's a pretty specific poet and line to have Robert California quote.
I'm very perfect for the character of Robert California as well.
I thought so too, and it's super dramatic, and I kind of wish it had stayed in because
it's so random and bizarre.
Well, Robert has brought not the Marmalade.
No, he brought the basil plant, which he was going to bring
all along. We're going to see Kevin and Ryan now on the seasaw. It's not going so well
for Ryan. No, he's the one stuck up in the air there. And then there would have been
a scene, Jenna here, between Angela and Pam, that comes before the toast. It is packed
with sass. So much sass. It's the scene we shot inside,
partially so you could cool off, because it was so hot and they were worried about you being outside.
But yeah, I think we have to hear this scene. It was set up in the shooting draft like this.
Interior Shrute Farms, main house. Pam comes down the stairs holding a baby monitor.
Angela is sitting in the living room.
I'm titling the scene, Jenna. And that is that. Let's hear it.
Little CC asleep. Yeah, she just went down. Such a precious little angel.
Oh, Cecilia. And Philip. Yes, after my grandfather.
Philip is wasted on you. Jim is never going to take the timehmm. And Philip. Yes, after my grandfather.
Philip is wasted on you.
Jim is never going to take the time to call him Philip.
He doesn't even take the time to get a haircut.
And Phil!
Ugh!
It's just something you do to a whole!
Well, I'm having my baby first, so that's that.
You know what?
It could go either way.
My doctor said my hips are so dainty that, um, most definitely, I have a C-section.
So, I could go early.
You think your doctor is going to give you a C-section at so I could go early. You think your doctor's gonna give you a C-section
at six months?
Yeah, if I request it, you will.
And that is that.
And that is that.
And that is that.
I am really disappointed that this scene did not stand
because later when we find Cece and her pack and play
all alone in the middle of the farmhouse,
I had questions about Pam and Jim's parenting.
I was like, what the heck?
What happened to you?
I was checking on her baby.
She has a baby monitor and she is checking in.
And Seese was sleeping.
She's now awake and quiet, but there was a moment when she left her sleeping,
which was information I would have liked to have known.
Well, Andy's parents are going to leave, but before they do, Andy really wants to make a toast.
Oh my gosh, the toasts. I know. He's going to raise his glass to his amazing staff.
In the shooting draft, Andy's toast was longer, and here's what he said about his staff.
I just wanted to take this chance to thank you for coming to my staff.
Jim Dwight Stanley Phyllis, the backbone of the company.
To Kevin, Angela, Oscar, the brains,
Darryl, the soul, Kelly, the mouth,
Gabe, the nose, Meredith, Erin, the face.
This was a good cut.
I know.
This is two Michael Scott.
It is very Michael Scott.
This is too many remnants of Michael Scott.
They were right to cut that, I think.
Also, Andy did not list Pam.
Oh, well.
Then even better that it was cut
because Pam did not get her moment.
Andy's really hoping by doing these toasts
that people then will reciprocate to him. And it really backfires. All anyone wants to toast is
Robert, California. Until Angela has a toast to her baby, Philip Lipden. Yes, who's
doing four months, but she's gonna announce the baby's name now. And then Pam is
gonna toast her baby, Philip Halpert, who is due even sooner. She's going
to explain the significance of the name Philip and really drives it home that this has been a promise
that she made her grandfather when she was a little girl and it has a lot of significance to her
family. Angela is going to have a talking head where she's crying and she's like, Pam copies
everything I do. It's the Ford Tourist situation all over again.
We had a fan question from Jake B.
and Tulsa Oklahoma who says, Angela mentions
the Ford Tourist situation, what is this?
Because in the show, Pam drives a Toyota Yaris
and Angela drives a Saturn.
Jake, I don't know.
Jake, here's my fan theory on this.
Okay.
They have worked together for a long, long time.
And I feel like one of the first cards that they bought
was a Ford Taurus and Angela got one
and then Pam got one and copied her
and she was ticked off.
Well, why do you think Angela got the Taurus first?
Maybe Pam got it.
Well, because she says Pam copies everything I do.
So it seemed like two.
Angela thinks Pam is copying the baby name Philip,
but Angela is wrong.
Pam's had this name forever.
She's not copying anything.
She said her baby was gonna be named Philip
before Angela even said anything.
Well, here's the thing.
You don't know who's copying who,
because in Angela's mind,
she always thought if she had a baby,
she'd name it Philip after her very first cat, Philip.
We've never heard of Philip the cat.
Never.
We've been married.
We've never seen her favorite cat.
Have we ever heard of Philip the grandfather?
Have we ever heard of Philip the grandfather?
Ever.
No.
Wow.
Wow, this rivalry has turned real.
Well, guess what?
After these toes, Kelly is going to have a toast
where she throws shade at both Angela and Pam. It's in deleted scenes. She stands up
and says, I'd like to toast the non-pregnant ladies and how we don't just make
our own personal issues, everyone's issues, because the rest of us don't really care. Okay, Kelly's had it.
She has had it with big pricks, little pricks.
Aaron is finally about to propose a toast to Andy
but gets interrupted by Dwight
who announces they need to do a tablo of the last supper.
We're at chapter 9.
Chapter 9 now.
I want to point something out in Jim's talking head
when he's reading, chapter 9 now. I wanna point something out in Jim's talking head when he's reading from chapter 9 at 12 minutes
and 37 seconds, you can see very clearly
that all the pages in the book are blank.
Blank.
Oh, there's nothing written, there's no typing, nothing.
I have to bring up a Stanley runner
that was going on throughout the whole episode
that got cut.
It's indelated scenes if you have the DVDs.
I thought Leslie did such a great job and so I want to share about it. Oh, please. So
early in the episode, Stanley asks Andy if he can bring Cynthia as his date and fill
us under her breath is like, don't do it Stanley. That idea. She's like, don't do it.
And then Stanley has a talking head where he shares that he has been wanting to break up
with his current girlfriend, Cynthia,
but he wants to do it at a public place.
He explains that he likes to break up at a restaurant
but doesn't like to spend money that doesn't lead to sex.
So this garden party is perfect.
Oh my gosh.
I know.
And then as Gabe is chatting up Cynthia throughout the party
and Stanley goes, don't get too close.
I want a clean break.
And then he finally does break up with her.
And she goes off on him in front of everyone
and says that she will be letting his wife know
where she can pick him up.
Wow. Yeah.
And Phyllis is like, I told you Stanley.
It was a whole runner. It was huge.
Wow. Well, listen,
if you thought the toasts were over, they're not.
Kevin is now going to toast Robert California.
Gabe is going to try to toast Robert California. And then Robert would like to
say a few words. He would like to propose a toast to everyone in the office. Because
really the bosses are relevant. That's right. They don't really do anything. Like the difference
between a crying baby and a manager. Yeah. The crying baby grows up. This is not helping Andy with his hopes
of having someone toast him and say nice things.
Well, Andy is gonna take control of things
and he is gonna suggest that he and his father
sing a duet.
He's gonna get out his guitar and start playing
and his dad has a lot of comments.
It's the wrong key.
It just constantly stops him.
Yes.
And then when they do finally start singing, my heart broke for Andy because Andy starts
to do his and a thing because they're dirt of voice.
Yeah.
He does his Andy voice that is not meshing at all with his dad's voice and his dad's
going to stop it.
His dad is going to stop it and call up Walter Jr. Who, as we all know, is played by a man
who has one of the most beautiful voices
to grace this planet, Josh Groban.
Oh my gosh, we actually got a fan comment from Marissa Kay.
In Illinois who said,
I absolutely loved that they picked Josh Groban
to be Andy's brother,
and I thought it was tragically hilarious
to have Walter Jr. be a noticeably better singer than Andy because Andy loves to sing so much.
There are so many layers to this family and their dynamic. Oh my gosh.
I know people talk about Scott's thoughts as being the cringiest episode.
I found this episode, and particularly this scene and the scenes to follow
with Andy trying to oppress his dad
and never getting anywhere to be so incredibly
uncomfortable to watch.
And then there is no resolution.
There's never a moment where Andy gets what he needed.
I was so uncomfortable this whole time.
Well, he doesn't get what he needs from his parents,
but kind of like Michael Scott,
his co-workers are becoming his family.
Did you see that parallel? A little bit?
A little bit.
But I'm not imagining that Andy is going home
after this garden party, not being like kind of
still wounded.
Well, yeah.
I don't know.
Well, to break up this tragedy with a little comedy, Mo's is going to what?
He's going to jump over the row of cars in a Vespa?
What?
He's going to have his evil, con evil moment.
Yeah. It doesn't make it.
So then he just runs across the top of it.
Fan question from Amanda and Ontario,
what was the process behind the stunt
where Moe's runs across the roofs of the car?
Well, Steve Burgess said there was a lot of prep involved
and that we originally really did want to have Moe's
ride the scooter across the
cars. But Universal said no. They said it would cause too much damage to the cars. It
would be too expensive. They weren't concerned, I guess, about the safety. They were concerned
about the cost of that. Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
So as an alternative, they decided to have not make sure, but a stunt double run across
the cars. But Steve Burgess said that actually caused quite a bit of damage and was very costly
anyway. Just a person running on the top of the cars. Yes, it dented in the tops of the cars.
I want to say that I thought the stunt guy playing
Mose did an excellent job of running like Mose. It was a very good Mose
run. Yeah, because Mike sure has a weird run as Mose. I know. This guy really sold it.
Robert, California and Dwight have a very funny exchange where, you know, Dwight's
talking about the beat farm and Robert's like, forget the beats. You should rent
this place out. I would pay a considerable amount of money
to have my birthday party here.
And then Dwight goes into great detail
about all the different birthday packages they offer,
and they all include a lot of goats, a lot of goats.
Some more than others, some are all goats,
some are just a few goats.
Robert California is a line that's so funny.
He's like, why are you talking to me about these ghosts?
Yeah, he said you're not interested.
I'm literally not interested.
I'm not interested.
I'm explaining the ghosts.
Yeah, I just loved it.
I loved it too.
He's gonna offer to get Robert some exotic meats.
And then when Robert walks away, he says they're all goat.
Yeah.
I don't know if this was from the mind of Justin Spitzer,
or if this was a bit that was written by a breakout room
with one of the writers, but it was fantastic.
I loved it so much.
I went to deleted scenes hoping that it was extended,
that there was more Robert, California,
and Dwight discussing goats, but there wasn't.
Ah.
Well, if you wanted to get your heart broken,
the next scene is going to do it.
Oh gosh.
Yeah.
Andy is talking to Cece and his dad comes in and just really just belittles him just horribly.
And the whole time it's over the baby monitor, we find out that Oscar and Dural and Pam and Jim and Aaron
have overheard the whole conversation.
He's told him he's not proud of him that he's the manager of a rinky dink
paper company in scranton, just as horrible. And then his parents leave. That's it.
There is no hug. There's no we're proud of you anyway. There's nothing positive.
I did love the parents talking head because I absolutely loved it when Dee Wallace said
the sandwiches were dry.
I really, I really loved it.
It was a very like parents moment,
like especially if you've planned your wedding,
there's always some aunt and uncle
or someone that has a comment that's like,
all I liked everything, but you know,
the bread was hard or something.
It's true.
Then we have what I think is a little bit
of a redemption moment for Andy.
Everyone is hanging out.
It's very casual now.
Darrell is working the grill, Oscar tosses the Nard Dog,
a cold one, and Andy sits down on a picnic blanket,
and it fills warm and cozy and so friendly,
and boy did Andy need this at the end of this day.
It's true.
We're gonna have a final moment from Dwight as well,
a final performance.
It is a torch dance, a fire dance with the staff.
This was of course from James Trickington's book
about closing ceremonies.
Mm-hmm.
We had a fan question from Rebecca G.
in Texas who said how long did it take for
Rain Wilson to learn the dance at the end of the episode and Ryan S. from Massachusetts would like
to know how many safety meetings were there about the use of fire in the closing ceremonies.
Steve Burgess said that those dancers were an actual fire dance group. Amazing. And that Mary Ann Kellogg was our choreographer.
He said, Rain Wilson learned that choreography
and worked with the fire dancers for a couple of hours
earlier that morning in order to do that scene.
And as far as safety,
Steber just said we had a lot of safety meetings all the time.
We had a big one first thing in the morning
where we talked all about the day. I believe he reiterated the rattlesnakes, he reiterated
the bees, he told us to hydrate and he mentioned that later in the day we would have fire.
I remember our morning safety meeting and I remember them introducing us to our snake
wrangler. Yes, I remember it because I'll never forget, you know, if you get bit
by a rattlesnake, you are not supposed to run because that makes the venom move more
quickly through your system. You're not supposed to have a person who has been bit by a rattlesnake,
move themselves out of the area. you are supposed to get someone to carry
them out. And that was the whole thing, that it was like you're supposed to scream for help,
so that you can be carried out of the area. I just remember the guy had these really tall boots on.
And you and I were walking around in little high heels or flats and I was like,
should we all have the tall boots?
Yes. Where are the boots? I want some boots. Yes. Steve said we also fireproofed all of the wardrobe
for the fire dancers. And we had another safety meeting right before the fire dance started.
And that's how it all went down. Before our rewatch is done of the office. I really want Kelly can't lead to come on. And I want her to do a
full safety meeting on the pod. Absolutely. It has to happen. This episode ends with a tag. It is Jim
pranking Dwight. This prank made more sense to me. Okay. He's just going to enter the party over
and over so that Dwight is constantly having to say Jim Malpert. And he's like asking him questions like,
who's the best salesman in the branch?
And then he exits that he comes back in, Jim Halpert.
And he just does this over and over.
I loved this whole bit of rain announcing everyone
and shouting as Dwight.
I thought it was a fun way to end the episode.
I want to say that I thought that this garden party
with all of these weird elements was actually
quite charming and interesting, and like Robert California, I would be interested in having
that party.
Forget the beats.
Focus on parties.
Minus the goats.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Well, there you have it, everybody.
That was Garden Party.
Thanks so much for listening.
Thank you so much to Josh Groban for stopping by.
What an absolute delight.
And thank you to Steve Burgess
for all his great insider info.
Yes, and next week we will be back with Sput.
Oh, that's a Halloween episode.
Yeah, Halloween in June.
Bye, you guys.
Bye. Bye you guys! Bye!
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