Office Ladies - Trivia

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

This week’s episode is “Trivia”. Andy finds out about Oscar’s Trivia Night and gets the office to crash it in hopes of winning the grand prize. Meanwhile Dwight goes to Sabre headquarters in hopes of moving up the corporate ladder but gets stalled by Gabe. Angela’s friend Brian Gattas sends in an audio clip, Jenna breaks down the Hydrox cookie and the Office Ladies team plays a round of trivia. So put down your copy of John Steinbeck’s “The California Raisins” and enjoy this episode!  *This episode was recorded July 7th, 2023.  Office Ladies Website - Submit a fan question: https://officeladies.com/submitaquestion Follow Us on Instagram: OfficeLadiesPod Check out Office Ladies Merch at Podswag: https://www.podswag.com/collections/office-ladies

I'm Jennifer Fisher and I'm Angela Kinsey. We were on the office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene stories that only two people who were there can tell you. We're the office ladies. Hello everyone. Hey there.

How's it going? We're the office ladies. Hello, everyone. Hey there. How's it going? You know, it's going fantastic. Uh-huh. I'm ready for some trivia. I hope so because that's what we're talking about today. Season 8, episode 11, written by Steve Healy and directed by B.J. Novak.

How about a summary? You know, I love it. Andy recruits the gang to compete in a trivia night in hopes that their winnings will close the gap on their quarterly sales goal. Meanwhile, Dwight flies to Florida in pursuit of a management position. Mm-hmm.

Very bold move. I mean, Robert did invite him, but I think Robert invites people, I mean, much like Joe Bennett. Mm-hmm. Maybe sometimes invite you, but they don't really mean the invite. Yeah, it's like a soft invite. I think it's, what do you call it?

I don't even think it's a soft invite. It's a, I think it's a non invite invite. A hypothetical invite. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Why doesn't live in hypotheticals? No, no.

Well, fast fact number one, or perhaps I should call it trivia number one, because this will be a little trivia for all of you office lovers. This episode was originally called Clicks. Oh yeah, yeah. Called Clicks, yeah. Well, I still have my copy of Clicks, and I re-read it. That's right. Talk about digital clutter,

who's showing up today with the digital clutter. You are. Well, it's very different. First of all, the storyline with Dwight going to interview in Florida, it's all in there. That was the same. Okay. But back at the office, here's what happens.

Kelly finds out that Kathy and Aaron hung out over the weekend and she is not having it. Oh, she was left out. She goes to Andy and she says there are clicks in this office and you need to do something about it. We can't have people hanging out outside of work, gossiping about work, although Kelly's never cared before. No, no. So Andy calls a group meeting to talk about it. And he says, listen, it's not against the rules

to hang out with people outside of work, but you can only do it in a way that doesn't exclude people and you can't gossip about work. And then he gives an example. He says, for example, this Saturday, I went to Jim and Pam's house, but it wasn't a click because there was no gossiping and then I left.

And Aaron is like, oh my God, I went to Jim and Pam's house on Saturday and must have just missed you. I was there for dinner. But guess what? What? Darryl was also there for dinner. And Kathy was there for dinner. At Jim and Pam's house?

Yes, they invited everybody over to meet the baby and they explained, listen, we weren't trying to exclude people, but these are the people who expressed interest in meeting our baby. So we had them over. If you had expressed interest in meeting the baby, you could have come over too. Suddenly, everybody starts confessing

who they hang out with outside of work. And this is when it is revealed that Oscar, Ryan, Jim and Toby are on a trivia team together. This is where trivia starts to make its way in to clicks. Andy decides that the best way to break down off his clicks is for them to all form a trivia team together. They're going to play as the Dunder Mifflin, Scranton, trivia team.

They do. There was a trivia element to clicks, but it was only at the very end. I got in touch with writer Steve Healey, and he said that after we did the table read for clicks, they got a network note that network said, we don't understand this idea of clicks. We don't understand what they would mean to the office. It's not clear to us. We don't get it. We don't get it basically. They're like, we don't get it. So, Steve Healey and Paul Lieberstein, they kind of agreed and they did this massive reimagining of this A storyline and they decided, let's just lean into the trivia night part. Like, that

part was so fun and it worked like that part. They were like, we get that. We get trivia night. And that is how it became the focus of the episode. Oh. But they only had a week to do that. Yeah, it's a big rewrite. We did the table read and one week later we started shooting and we get this new script called trivia. We're like, what?

Right. There you go. I like that. All right. Good fast fact. Thank you. Our trivia fact. Trivia fact number two.

Okay. Steve Healey, our writer, told me that he was very excited to lean into trivia because he used to play a lot of bar trivia when he lived in New York City back in 2003. He said it was just sweeping the East Village and the area around NYU where he lived and he said he would go with his roommate and they took it super seriously because the prize was a $25 bar tab. Hey. Yeah.

He was like, we needed that. Yeah. He said they also had a couple of ringers that they would bring along. They had this friend who was a super smart attorney who would come out once a month for the big game. How fun! I want to be the ringer at trivia night.

I mean, it will never happen, but that's so cool. He said this was fun because he got to write what he knew. Oh, and I always love when the scripts come from someone's personal experience. Yeah. All right. Well, speaking of trivia nights, fast act number three, Angela, you said you did a little digging around about office trivia nights. Yeah, which are very popular. They're super popular. You can basically look up your city and type in the office trivia night. Yeah, which are very popular. They're super popular. You can basically look up your city and type in the office trivia night near me

and things are gonna come popping up. Yeah, trust me. I did one for my area and Jenna coming up, not too far from us, is a painting with the twist trivia night. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Am I gonna paint a picture while doing office trivia? Uh-huh. It is really popular.

It's called Paper Company trivia. And on their website, it says, bring your office co-workers and your world's best boss mug and test your office knowledge at this Paper Company themed trivia night. Everyone paints the Dunderc Mifflin office building. I want us to go. I know. We have to show up at this point. I'm telling you, the sad part is I think we'll lose. Even though we've been doing good since we've done this much better.

Remember our trivia with Billy Eilish? I was a stinker. You did not do well that day. You did horribly. I did horrible when we did it on the today show. I froze. I know. This is the problem. We could freeze, but we would also be painting and having a glass of wine, I think. How many people do you need for a team? I don't know. Does it say?

All right, I will dig deeper. I just was very excited that we got to paint and do office trivia. Well, find out because I think we could maybe recruit a couple of other office mates. Oh, I bet Kate would go with us. And Oscar would be good. Probably Creed.

Creed, you know, came to my 50th birthday painting party where we painted hummingbirds and he painted a little alien ship with his hummingbirds. We were like, wait, where are the aliens? Well, you know who'd be horrible at a trivia night is Rainwellson. And Rain, I'm sorry to say this,

but you never remember anything. You're not wrong. I'm like, oh my gosh, Rain, remember that episode where you get hit by the car and you throw up on the hood. He's like, what? I'm like, what? I'm like, watch it. Yeah.

Once he rewatches it, he gets all these ideas, but like, he has no trivia knowledge of the office. None. Brian Baumgartner might be good. Brian would kick some butt. And then also, you guys, if you love office trivia, Dave Keckner is hosting trivia nights. He travels around to different bars and will put the swipe up in our stories, but it says test your knowledge of the office with the Pac-Man himself,

David Keckner, teams compete for prizes while also hearing behind-the-scenes stories from David about playing the hit shows favorite obnoxious paper salesman. That's pretty cool. I know. Well, listen, why don't we take a break and when we get back, we're gonna have total silence. We won't speak for 14 minutes. Enjoy that in your commute. We'll be right back. We are back from break. While we were on break, we decided our trivia team is gonna be our office ladies team.

Sam, Cassie, get ready. Polish up your the office trivia and get your paint brushes because I think we've all gotta go. We're ready. Listen, they watch it every week just like we do. I know. This is the team. This is actually win now.

Team office ladies. Yeah, I'm excited. Oh my gosh, this is so crazy if we really did that That's so crazy. We're gonna do it. What if we won? That would be I feel like people would be angry That's not fair. It's rigged All right, listen this cold open is very very very very quiet. No one is speaking In fact, people are signaling to each other to

keep quiet. Don't talk. We had a fan question from Jacqueline Kay and San Diego who said, a few episodes back, you were talking about the longest silence on the office. You both agreed that it was Jim and Pam on the boat in Boose Cruise, but when this cold open technically be the episode with the longest silence. Well done. Yes, Jacqueline. Well done, Jacqueline. Well done, Jacqueline. I timed it.

It's one minute and twenty two seconds. Oh, yeah. This is it. This is it. This cold open reminded me a lot of earlier seasons when the whole bullpen would get in on some prank together. Mm-hmm. I loved it.

Yeah. Well, Andy's having a really hard time during this game of being silent because he sees a raccoon eating a burger out of a paper bag in the parking lot. He is trying so hard to like act out what he's seeing because this is crazy. He needs to share it with someone. He needs to share it with someone. This whole scene all I could think about was Sam because Sam loves raccoons. I don't know, Sam. You might have watched more raccoon videos than any person ever.

I bet I might have. I mean, if you go to Sam's Insta Stories, it's almost all raccoon shenanigans. They're just, they're perfect. They're all fat and chubby and they have little squirmy hands and baby eyes. I want to know, Sam. What's the craziest thing you've seen a raccoon do. Hmm. I think I'm drawn to the videos where it's like a dumpster and somebody knocks on the dumpster and then the lid opens and there's like 60 to 70 raccoons in there. Like an insane amount of raccoons. There's just thousands of them in there. Those always get me. Will you send me one of those that I could share in our stories? I certainly will. I absolutely have some saved on my phone.

Okay, that was our Sam Raccoon moment of the day. Thank you for checking in. You're welcome. When I was in New York, I was walking through Central Park and I saw a raccoon doing something funny and I was like, I need to send this to Sam. I know. So I videoed and sent him a raccoon. Now I don't remember what it was doing, but not as interesting as what you just described. That update made my day. Oh, good.

Well, I have to tell you, Angela, there is a moment in this cold open that caused a fan mail flurry. And I investigated it. I have no answer and it's driving me crazy. I want to know. Okay, it's the gym talking head. Okay, where he explains what they're doing

and he has the note paddy holds up. And yes, they're on a silent streak. This is their biggest record, 14 minutes. Yes, so when he first holds up the sheet of paper, it says like no one has spoken in dot, dot, dot. He looks at his watch. He turns the pad of paper over rights 14 minutes. And then he holds it back up again for the camera.

Tegan L, from Great Barrington, Massachusetts, said, I have been waiting since the beginning of this podcast to ask this. Wow, Tegan, this is a long wait. In the cold open, when Jim writes down 14 minutes with two strokes underneath to emphasize the point, the sound does not match that many strokes. And from the time he puts his paper down to write,

the time we see the paper again, it's less than two seconds. Even at my absolute fastest, it takes at least three seconds closer to four to write out 14 minutes with two strokes underneath. Tegan timed it. It's 11 strokes of a pen in order to write everything Jim wrote. Tegan says, my question is, did Jim write that out himself? Does he just write faster than I do?

Was it already written out? Anna S. from London also noticed this? Lady, it doesn't match. It doesn't match. The scribble sounds of the pen, they are not enough strokes to equal that amount. And also, there's no cut. There's no cut away. He doesn't match. The scribble sounds of the pen, they are not enough strokes to equal that amount. And also, there's no cut. There's no cut away.

He doesn't flip a page. I don't know how it's mystifying. It's confusing. And now I'm part of this. I'm a part of this with Tegan and also with Anna. Well, I thought when he was holding up that very first piece of paper, you know, that says the longest streak, Jimmy Colin. Yeah.

I thought I could see writing under. But he doesn't ever flip the page. How did he do it? He does flip the page. No, he doesn't flip it over. After he shows it, he brings it down, he writes something, he holds it back up again. There's no cut. There's no flip. There's no cut. There's no flip.

There's no flip. There's no cut. I don't get it. I can't figure it out. It's driving me nuts now. Someone tell me how he does it. I thought he flipped it over. He doesn't flip it over.

It's mad. I trust you and Tegan and Anna. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe John has like crazy super fast fingers or something. I don't know. Well, they clearly added in sound effects. Yeah. Because the sound effects are or something. I don't know. Well, they clearly added in sound effects.

Yeah. Because the sound effects are not accurate. I don't know. We also had a fan question from George P. a New Hampshire who says when Aaron asks for a first aid kit during the cold open, she has clearly cut her hand. Why did the safety officer Angela Martin or assistant to the safety officer Dwight K. Shrut

not jump up and offer to help her? I want to create a little backstory here that doesn't exist. Okay. I want to say that Aaron harms herself fairly regularly in the office and Angela has just given up and probably left a kit somewhere for her because Aaron's just such a clutz. Such a clutz. Angela's like, I'm done. It's over there if you need anything. Mm-hmm, yeah. The episode is going to begin in the conference room. Andy is writing down things that can be done with paper on the whiteboard. I loved that by the way.

He's using a whiteboard to talk about how much you need paper. Exactly. I just thought that was a great touch. That was very funny. So this is what is written down so far. Ransome notes, anonymous threats, paper airplanes, love letters, books, and the infinity sign.

Andy is doing this so his own employees will purchase paper from the company because there's a gap in his sales goal. They have to sell $830 worth of more paper so that they can reach their sales goal. So he would like everyone in the room to please buy some paper. And apparently Andy's been buying paper for a while. Yeah, he has like $2,200 worth of paper and his garage.

For my background catch folks, during Andy's talking head in the parking lot, it was very foggy. We got mail about that. People wondered if there were any fires in the area causing that smoke. That was a question we got. But I couldn't figure out how to find that information. I think it was just really early. I think it was first thing of the day. We do have that here. We have that marine layer. Yeah. There wasn't Andy talking head alt that might have happened here. It's in deleted scenes.

And I couldn't help but think of Phil Shay. So Andy has a talking head where he's describing all the paper he needs to sell. But he also says, you can use all this extra paper to make an amateur animation book. Okay. And he has a detailed animation book that he's made. In the script, it says, Andy shows a flip book he made showing a stick figure labeled Andy shaking hands with

a stick figure labeled Robert. Then exclamation points appear above their heads as they do a celebration dance. Robert's stick figure says, I am so proud of you. And the 8% like exclamation point symbol dances over their heads and they're dancing. They're so happy. It's, I mean, probably a hundred pages of stick figures that you flip to make this little thing play out. And I was like, oh my gosh, Phil Shea had to make this whole animated flip book for a talking head that wasn't even used. Oh my gosh. But it's indelated. Yes. So Phil, I did watch it and I saw it and it was really cute.

Well, next up Dwight is going to pull up to the saber headquarters. He's showing up in a cab. I got the location details from Steve Burgess. He said, we shot this at Baxter Pharmaceuticals and Thousand Oaks. It is a huge office complex and we did all of the shooting there. We did not build anything for this location. We shot the exterior drop-off, the lobby with that crazy floor palm tree. Yes. And all of the office interiors. Dwight is super pumped. He's walking through, he shoved someone, he does like one of his

high kicks in the air. And then he announces himself to the receptionist. I couldn't get enough of the saber corporate receptionist. I just thought she was amazing. Everything she said made me laugh. Well we got some mail from Sydney B and Toledo Ohio who agrees with you, who said, I have always been obsessed with the receptionist in Florida. Her character makes me laugh so hard and I want to know everything about her. Well, her name is Laurel Coppuk and she has been on Modern Family. She was in Crazy Stupid Love. She played Jeff Garland's assistant in season 6 of Curbure Enthusiasm. She's in the main company of the groundlings in LA, but she is probably best known as Toyota Spokesperson Jan. Oh, she's done a string of commercials.

I looked into this, it was really cool. In the middle of this campaign, she got pregnant and then Jan got pregnant and she's just like a fan favorite. Oh wow. Steve Healy, our writer brought her up. He said they actually added more stuff for her during this episode because she was so fun to work with and so funny.

He said she just put this spin on the roll that they really loved, which was that she was doing her best to tolerate Gabe and that inside she was actually rooting for Dwight because she sensed he was Gabe's enemy. So that was like just something that was for her to know about her character. But when you make a little decision like that, I feel like it comes off, you know? She's great.

She is. She reminded me of like a second grade teacher when she was like how frustrating for you. Yes. Do we want to talk about our feelings? Yes. We also got a fan catch from Ryan C. in Mexico. He noticed that there's a hole in the wall behind Stephanie's desk. And there is.

There's a hole behind her. It's over her right shoulder. OK. He wanted to know what happened. I don't know Ryan. But now every time we cut to her, I see the hole in the wall. This is what happened to me in this episode. People wrote in, they pointed things out, and then you couldn't unsee them. Correct. So I'm passing

that along. There's going to be a very funny moment now between Gabe and Dwight. As Dwight sort of takes in where Gabe sits, and he says he's surrounded by shrubbery like a squirrel's office. That just cracked me up. Gabe is going to have a talking head. We've spoke about this talking head before because it was in deleted scenes for another episode. Yeah, but he's gonna explain how often he has to fly back from Scranton to Florida and back and forth. And also he has this fear of flying. So what a better way to tackle that.

Robert is gonna show up and is surprised to see Dwight and says, you know what? He'll be with him shortly. Let me settle in. Mm-hmm. There was a Robert Deleted Talking Head where he shares his assessment of where Dwight is at within the company.

And he references the Peter Principle. Okay. Yeah, I've never heard of this. Let's hear the clip and then I'll tell you what the Peter Principle is. There's a funny law of business known as the Peter Principle. Every employee gets promoted until he reaches the level of his incompetence. Right now Dwight, as a salesman, has reached his highest level of competence.

Now he's feeling the pull of moving up or moving on. My job is to make sure that neither of those happens. Wow. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? And I looked it up and it's a real thing. It's a real sort of theory within business, the Peter principle. It's this paradoxal idea that competent employees will continue to be promoted but at some point will be promoted into positions for which they are in fact incompetent

and then they will remain in those positions because they don't do them well. Wait, so you get to keep moving up and doing well and doing well and doing well, but then the job you end up in is one you can't do well. Is one that you weren't qualified to do. Which you only find out once you get the position, but you can't be demoted, so then you just stay in this role that you aren't really fit for. Wow, that is blowing my mind. Yeah.

So sometimes I feel like if you run into someone who's in a position that they seem totally out of their depth and you're like, how did they get this job? Maybe they just got promoted it. Yeah, they were really good at all the other jobs that led up to it. Yeah, it's called the Peter Principle. Oh, I feel like I know some Peter principles. I do. I've come across some of those. I know. Am I a Peter principle? No. At what? I don't know. That's what I'm asking myself. I'm sure I've Peter principled some time in my life where I've gotten some job and then I was ill-equipped. Oh, I mean, for sure. I mean, there's been a few jobs I had where really I should have just been

like a spokesperson and then I got promoted to where I actually had to use the skill sets of things I talked about that I couldn't really implement. Well, I loved that. That was very interesting. Back in Scranton, Andy is going to approach Oscar. And he's hoping that Oscar can make a little rounding error. He wants Oscar to basically cook the books and cover up the fact that he's $830 short this quarter. But you know what, Oscar can't cook the books for Andy today because he's got to get to Trivia-Occalips. That's a mouthful. That's what he said. Kevin offers to do it. Kevin's happy to make a rounding error.

He does it all the time probably. This is when Andy is going to find out that the prize for Trivia-Colips is a thousand dollars. A thousand bucks? That's a big prize. This gives Andy an idea. Does? I mean, Steve Healy only got twenty-five dollars at the bar when he won. I know. $1,000. Well, Andy now sees his opportunity. He's going to try to get a group together to go to Trivia Knight. So he's talking to Jim and Darryl in his office,

and they're all in. So there were two things about this episode that caused a stir with fans. OK. One actually required NBC to make a press release. OK. Responding to the comments they received. That's later.

Okay. Save that. Okay. But the other one was the fact that Jim agrees to go to Philadelphia without any concern for his wife. Oh. And they're newborn child at home. You can't wait to get out.

There was so much mail about it. For example, I grabbed this one. This is like when the episode aired, I found this on officetelly.com. Robert wrote, quote, I just can't let go that Pam's ignored again. Even if Jenna isn't seen or heard, which I get, I have no problem with, Jim should still acknowledge Pam's existence, driving off to Philly without even a thought to his wife and infant son and toddler daughter defies belief to me, many letters of that nature. So when I was rereading clicks,

there was a storyline where everyone came to Jim and Pam's house. Yes! One of the things that I really liked was that Pam was mentioned, that a new baby was mentioned. And by the way, also in that script, it was revealed that Pam is the person who told Jim to invite Kathy because Pam suspected that Kathy might have a hard time fitting in with the group and she wanted her to be comfortable. I thought that was very interesting, but all of it got cut, you know, when the episode changed and Steve Healey actually said he wished that that reference to Pam back at home, he actually said he thought this episode would have been better with more Pam and Angela. Oh, well, thank you.

And he's not just saying that because he's on our podcast. Even if you are, Steve, thank you. But that was a big controversy that Jim seemed to have zero problems. No, Hall and ask. Made the decision to go prior to speaking with his wife at home. I wonder if I found a little scuttle butt thing as well. I wonder if it's our same scope. It happens later in the episode.

That's right. Okay, all right. Let's wait. We'll see if we can surprise each other. Okay. Back in the Saber lobby, Gabe is really given it to the bagel store. They better step it up.

Dwight's listening to this conversation and just kind of rolling his eyes. And this is when Gabe is going to share with Dwight that he considers himself the toilet of the office. He flushes away annoying problems. Yes, he's using that analogy as a compliment to himself that he's the toilet. Yeah, very interesting.

Well, we had a fan question from Vivian A. in San Francisco who said, Hi, office ladies, my name is Vivian. I'm 13 years old and I absolutely love your podcast. Thank you, Vivian. My question is on Gabe's desk in Florida, you can see an SFU hat. Is this when we learned that that is the college

that Gabe attended? Thank you. Well, great catch, Vivian. We can learn a lot from Gabe's desk. However, I have to say, I don't think that Gabe's desk reflected the same interests as his condo. Remember when we did viewing party? I was expecting to see more from his travels.

Yeah, yeah. But I did see the hat. In addition to the hat, he has a framed photo of a night on a horse. He has some very giant paper clips. Yeah, I don't know what he's using those for. And he also has, I want to point this out, a framed medal. I'm going to discuss more about that later. Yes, because he's going to surface later. Someone keeps a drawer of them, apparently. That's right. I saw that as well.

Well, Robert is going to ditch Dwight. He's going to say, listen, I can't meet with you, but Bill, my COO will. And then Robert immediately calls Gabe and says listen don't pass us on to bill. Just leave it right. Don't bother bill with this. Don't bother bill with this. Here Dwight's speech, okay? And just hear him out. And now Dwight has to face the toilet, man. Well, our Dundr Mifflin folks are about to arrive at the bar for trivia night. Ifland folks are about to arrive at the bar for trivia night, I think we should take a break. And when we come back, we will discuss Oscar's reaction.

Yes. And you're going to hear from my friend a fan question from Sean P and St. Louis Missouri who said, can we have a location breakdown for the trivia bar? In addition to this episode, it also shows up in its always sunny and Philadelphia. The always sunny cast made it clear that at some point they started filming on the same stages as the office. So was this a fakie bar that was first built for the office and then used again for always sunny? No.

This was a real location, Sean. We did not build this bar. This bar is called the Federal. It is on Lankersham Boulevard in North Hollywood. You can still go there. We use the main bar for the trivia contest. And we also use their backroom bar for the tag of this episode, where our team is at the state championships. But the federal is a great location. It's been used on a lot of other shows, including it's always sunny and Philadelphia. So you did spot that. And yes, always sunny and Philadelphia

took over our stages after we left. There's a little cross over there. So Andy and the Dundermiffling crew walk in, Oscar spots them and he's like, what are you doing here? I mean, wouldn't you react similarly? Is it true of all the way from Philadelphia? Yeah. And you know, he's like, I can't believe you guys did that.

And Daryl's like, well, sometimes and then Daryl kind of clocks the room and goes, wait, is this a gay bar? And Oscars like, yes, don't you wanna leave? And Andy's like, I do not wanna leave. I wanna win that trivia money. And Oscars like, really? You're gonna win at trivia night at a gay bar. He scoffs, he thinks his team's gonna like ace those guys.

Mm-hmm. Andy's gonna be like, all right guys, let's break into teams. You all know yourselves, put yourselves in the right group. We've got the A team, we've got the backups, and then the just for funds.

And Meredith's like, just for fun with me. Meredith knows. Everyone seems to sort of know where they fit in except for Kevin. Yes. You know, we had a fan question from Kathleen M. and Davidson North Carolina who said, I would love to know where they fit in except for Kevin. Yes. You know, we had a fan question from Kathleen M. and Davidson North Carolina who said, I would love to know which trivia team you guys would be on.

Angela Jenna, but also your characters. Would you be Dunder Mifflin A team, Dunder Mifflin B team, or the Just for Fun team? Well, Angela Martin clearly did not come. Right. Why did you want no teams? She was on no team. She doesn't want to participate in

bar games. Are you kidding? Yeah, I wonder where Pam would have ended up if she was there. I think B team. I think, you know, Angela Kinsey real life is just for fun team. Uh-huh, and I think Jenna Fisher real life. I think I'd put myself on the B team as well. Because I want to take it somewhat seriously. Like like I would be frustrated on a just for fun team where we're not trying. Yeah. But I wouldn't have confidence in my trivia knowledge to be on an A team. Yeah, I wouldn't want the pressure that being on the A team.

So I think Jenna and Pam are the same, we're B team. Yeah. Well, you know, you and I weren't there for the bar. We didn't get to film any scenes there, but I reached out to Brian Gattis who plays Oscar's teammate, Zander, because I was like, Brian, we've known each other for years, and I said, Brian, what was it like on the day in that bar?

Can you tell us any stories? And he had some fun stuff to share. That's so cool, Ange, I didn't know you knew him. Yeah, I've known Brian a really long time, and he sent in an audio clip, because Jenna, he's responsible for a very funny joke that made it in the episode. So after auditioning for the pilot

and multiple episodes of the office, I was totally psyched to finally be a guest star on such a cult show. All the series regulars were really sweet and they came up and introduced themselves to me on set, which makes stepping into this well-oiled TV machine so much less daunting as a guest star. As far as anything that sticks out in this episode was I actually pitched a joke on set,

which is not common as a guest star and also not very common to pitch a joke for another character. So in this episode, the trivia announcer bus B.J. for like being on his phone and says something to the fact of like, I'm sure you're just checking your dating account. And I was like, hmm, Grindr was an app that was fairly new in the gay world. So I asked Oscar, I was like, who's the writer? And I was like, do you think it would be okay if I would just could pitch a joke? And Oscar was like, yeah, sure, why not? So I went up to the writer and I said, hey, and he was like, hey, and I said,

I actually have a joke I want to pitch you. And he just looked at me with a blank face. I'm sure he was like, really? A guest star is going to pitch me a joke now, okay. And I said, you know, it's not for my character, it's for another character. And I think that made him a little even more intrigued. So I pitched him the grinder joke

and he immediately was like, what is that? And you know, I was like, oh clearly this guy is straight. So I told him what the grinder app was all about. And he was like, oh, that's actually pretty funny. So then he called BJA over who was actually the director of the episode. And I pitched BJA the joke and and BJ was like, that is funny. So all gay men would know what this app is. And I was like, yeah, they totally know what it is. And then BJ was like, Hey, Mindy. And so he pulled Mindy over and I pitched her

the joke. And Mindy was like, great, love it. So they actually shot it. And it was in the final episode, which was awesome. Other little things, like when we filled out the answer cards, they let us write in our own answers. So instead of Atlanta, I wrote Atlanta. Duh. Oh my God, I love that story so much. Oh, right. Yes.

Cracked me up. But also, I just love that everyone was like, so gay people will know what this grinder app is. I mean, it must have been very new at the time. I think we all know Grindr now, right? We all know. But I like that he was like, uh, yeah, just trust me. Yeah. Well, the trivia gets underway and it starts with our question about the capital state that was on Ray Charles's mind, Atlanta. Mm-hmm. And I wanted to give a shout out to our trivia announcer who was played by Dan Gill, who's a very funny comedian.

I went down a tiny rabbit hole looking at his stuff and one of the things that I found very funny was a story he told on a podcast where they asked him, what's kind of like an audition that you went on that was a total fail? Yeah, he said that there was an audition for a television show and in the breakdown The breakdown we should tell people is a casting director sends out to all the agents a description of the character

Yeah, the person they're looking for for this role and then the agents go through their files and they're like Who do I have who might match this description? I'll send them on an audition. The breakdown said looking for a Dan Gill type. Oh, so guess what? He got the audition. He did not get the role. Yeah. He didn't get it. Yeah.

But then later, they brought him back onto the show to play himself, Dan Gill. So that is the search of my story. But he's awesome. And he's so good in this episode. Yeah. The next trivia question was, quote, you're not an all-star of the NBA,

but you did get your game on when you won the NBA's sixth man of the year award in 2011. Who are you? Well, guess who's gonna get this one right? No one could guess. No one on our A team, no one on our B team, the just for funds. Kelly knows it's Lamar Odom. Yeah, because it was a really big storyline on Chloe and Lamar. I loved this. Well, Andy is going to start to freak out because the A team missed this question.

He really thought Darryl and Jim have this one. Yeah. I wouldn't have gotten this question. Same. I would have gotten Atlanta. Yes, I've gotten Atlanta. You know, it made me really curious about trivia questions. And I kind of went down the rabbit hole of like, what are some of the best trivia questions? There's so many websites that list top trivia questions. And what a lot of them have in common is a mix of information. So you really need a good mix of people on your team that are from different backgrounds and have different jobs or different interests

because the questions are all over the map on a good trivia night. That makes sense to me. I feel like you need a sports expert. You need someone who can handle pop culture. But then you need someone who knows just like historical facts. Yeah. Well, Andy thought he had all that and he didn't.

But it did make me curious if team office ladies could answer a few random assortment trivia questions that I found on the internet under most popular trivia questions. Okay. Sam, Cassie, get ready. I need to know this before we go to our painting trivia night. This is our test. Okay, we're ready. Okay.

Now, granted, our painting night, it's going to be all office trivia, but I. This is our test. Okay, we're ready. Okay. Now granted, our painting night, it's going to be all office trivia, but I think this is still important. Okay. How are we as a team? Okay. I tried to pick very random different questions. Okay. From this website. And, Angela, you just be honest. Just say if you would have gotten it right or not. Because you know the answer. I will be honest. I will be honest. Question number one, I will be honest. I will be honest. Question number one. What are the names of the four March sisters and little women? Oh gosh. Oh wow. I had nothing. In little women. Cassie. Someone named... Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Joe. Is there a Joe? Yep. Yep. Joe is there, um, oh dang it. I saw the movie.

Florent's pew. She's a sister. I don't know anybody. Sam Cassie. All right, I have nothing. Now, Angela, would you have gotten this right? I would have gotten three, and I probably would have forgotten the fourth one.

Okay, who are they? So Joe and Beth, Beth is who passes away. Okay. Amy's who goes abroad to France. Okay. I'm sorry, spoiler alert. Sorry. And then I think the one I would have forgotten is Meg.

Meg. Poor Meg. I know. The forgettable one. I know. Sorry Meg. Number two, in chess, which direction can a bishop move? I got this one, diagonally.

That's correct. Yes. Okay. I might have gotten that one, because Cade please chess all the time. All right, question number three. How many colors will you find in a regular bag of M&Ms? Six, I have to count.

Red, blue, green, yellow, brown, orange. I think it's six. Six is correct. Hey! I'm gonna tell you why I know that. I would not have known that. As a mom, when we hand out the M&Ms, they always want one of each color, has to be even.

And I had this immediate picture of like six MM's in my hands. My brain flashback. Do you remember when there was two browns? Yes, there was dark brown and light brown. I couldn't remember. They got rid of it for blue. They did. That's right. Okay. Gosh, I would not have known that at all. I'm very impressed with your knowledge of M&M's, all of you.

All right. Question number four. Which marine animal holds hands in their sleep to prevent drifting apart? Others. That's correct. Yeah. Isn't that the cutest thing they hold hands so sweet when they bought a sheep? Don't you want to be together? They also balance rocks on their bellies. They do. They're very cute. Why do they do that? They just, they just, they like it. Yeah, they juggle rocks on their bellies. Yeah. Oh my god.

We clearly we know a lot about sea otters. Okay. All right. Next question. Who was the first woman inducted into the rock and roll Hall of Fame? I have a guess. I have a guess.

All right. Let's hear them. I have a guess. All right. Let's hear them. I'm thinking Janice Joplin. I was thinking maybe Tina Turner. Okay. Final answer please. Kind of say Joan Jett, but that feels too late. Final answer or Bonnie Rate?

Would they take a wreath of Franklin? No. I know. I was, does Tina Turner qualify as rock and roll? Who is that? I want to say, Rita Franklin. Okay. Final answer please. Oh, we have to decide, team. Have we sent the name? Are we anywhere?

I can't give hints. Right on, right your answer out and hold it up. I can't give any answer. All right, let's do Tina. Really? I'm nervous. Final answer? Sure. Rita Franklin. Really? I'm nervous. Final answer? Sure.

Aretha Franklin. Oh, Sam has it. Sam. How are you? You trust me. OK. All right, last question. What was the first and still only horror movie

to win the Oscar for Best Picture? The shining. Excerci. Oh, exerci. Oh. I know you guys are looking at me. picture. The shining. Pictures. Oh, excerpts. I know you guys are looking at me. Uh, I don't know what horror movie one best picture first and still only one. I think the shining is a pretty good guess. What about Poltergeist?

Two. I don't know if that made it up to. Yeah. So I kind of knew for a while every best picture from 1970 to 1990. It was a weird thing I did in college where I watched every movie and I can't remember, is this when you decided not to use a calculator? Is it the same time or no, this was a different time period, but you can tell I was a lot of fun in college What I did instead of attending parties

All right, final answer. I like the shining okay, we can do the shiny Stanley Kubrick, right? Yeah, okay The answer is silence of the land. Oh Okay, that concludes our office ladies trivia. I hope you played along with us at home. I'm sure people at home were screaming at their videos. I'm horribly. I think we're just for fun, team. Sorry. Yeah. We're just for otters, team.

Yeah. That was funny. And while speaking of trivia questions and how you come up with trivia questions, Heather H. from California wants to know, how did they write this episode? Did they have to work backwards and tailor questions to the teams? Were there any good questions or answers that didn't make it? Well, I asked Steve Healy our writer and he said that Heather is exactly right.

They reverse engineered the script because they wanted the Einstein's to win. And they said, of course, Oscar is very sharp. And so we wanted to see him winning a little bit because they felt that it would further torture him if he was beat by just a little bit by the Einstein's. And Steve also said there's probably a file with dozens more questions somewhere. And he went through all his digital clutter looking for it. And he said, I am so bummed that I couldn't find it for you. I did love that one of the questions the Einstein's missed was the question about Albert Einstein. That was an amazing joke. Well, listen, meanwhile, back in Florida, Gabe has explained to Dwight that Bill, our COO,

will not be available. He's putting out a fire nine miles away. Gabe is going to listen to Dwight's pitch. The toilet. He's gone to the toilet. He has. And Dwight knows it, but he still commits. Well, listen, it becomes very clear to Dwight very quickly that Gabe is just flushing him. But he says, I'm a crap too big to flush or something. And he demands that Gabe take him to Robert, California's home. Yeah. We'll get to it. First, we need to discuss what's happening at the trivia night and the controversy that was created by one of our teams, the queer and steen bears. Is that your thing, Ange? I don't know.

I think mine is different. Oh, we have different tidbits. When we got here this morning, we thought we had the same surprise. Now I'm very interested. You're very interested. Me go first? Yeah.

Okay, well, we're gonna get an update on how the teams are in their standings. The host is gonna give the teams in order of their points. And as he announces each team, you get to see a shot of that team. Oh, it is the same. It is about a picture. Is this about someone on a team? Yes, there is a moment where we cut to the queer and steen bears. This is where all the guys act like bears. The third guy from the left wearing a green plaid shirt. Set off a fan reaction so big that NBC had to make a press release because people thought that this man was Steve Carell in disguise.

Yep, making a cameo on the episode. Sam Cassie, I have a picture. Yes, fans thought this was an uncredited cameo by Steve. Oh my God. Looks like Robin Hood. Whoa. We will put a picture up in office, ladies pod, because for the third time in this episode, once a fan point is something out to me, I became obsessed with it.

It was such a crazy thing. Did you read about it? I did read about it. And sorry, the way you set it up, I thought maybe the queer and steam bears had cheated or some time or the math was wrong or, and then people were like, they could be in the top three or whatever.

But yes, I did read about this. There was a whole scuttle butt after the episode aired. People were all over the message boards, thinking they spotted Steve. I pulled one of the comments from Pat M who said, quote, I think it was Steve because first of all, it looks like him with a fake beard and fake eyebrows. Plus, later on the show, when they showed that table again, he's the only member of the group that isn't seen.

I think this is an indication that Steve came to visit, did the cameo for one day, but didn't hang for the whole filming. This was the conspiracy. I love that in this scenario, Steve comes to the set, makes the effort to come. But then, dawns of fake beard and eyebrows? Mm-hmm. This is a lot of effort to sit in and just act like a bear for one shot, and then he's like,

that was fun I'm out of here. I really wish he would have now. Well, this really blew up so much so that NBC gave a quote to the Washington Post saying it was not Steve Carell. They had to announce it. Oh my gosh, that is so funny. Well, you know, when they list the top three teams, I became very curious about what the other teams were.

There's a lot of other teams. Do they have names? I went to the shooting draft because I figured this was something that writers would have had a lot of fun with and there are lots of other team names. Oh, let's hear them. Yes. In the script, the trivia host had a whole rundown of all the scores. It was a bigger speech. Oh, and this is what he would have said. The Quirance team bears with seven, Joey Trivia-Annie, get it? With seven, the impish and pracerios with three, two broke dorks with six,

late onset beaver fever with five, Dundermifflin, A team with four, DM backup team with three. Jason Sogakus, zero. Oh, Einstein's with eight, and the ladies Gaga with five. Ah, alright. We got a fan question from Alexa P and Oceanside New York who said, hi, Jen and Angela, I am 15 years old and I've been listening to office ladies pretty much since it started. For this episode, I have always wondered why isn't Kelly on the Dunder Mifflin A team?

When she clearly knows more about pop culture than anyone in the office, I feel like she would be my first choice to have on my team for trivia night. Same Alexa, I agree with you. And this is exactly what Andy is discovering. He has completely underestimated the people in his office and their use in a trivia night. I mean Meredith is about to throw down some great answers. Meredith is going to get one right. I mean, Aaron, who Meredith calls Princess Ding Dong, is going to get flying jib.

I mean, you know, I would have got that. I did love when they get to the speed round and they're like first team to ring in, gets to answer. And so Aaron rings in first and she's like, guys, I did my part. Look at the answer now. That was a very funny joke.

Yeah. Well, I think we should head back to Florida because Dwight is gonna to arrive at Robert's condo. This was an apartment complex in North Hollywood that was very close to the federal. Steve Burgess told me we shot at the federal during the day one day and then after we finished, we moved over to this condo complex. Yeah, Dwight and Gabe are going to arrive and Robert California is having a wrestling

lesson, I guess. Yeah, a wrestling workout with Stu, who was played by Peter Gannon. I wanted to know, is this person a real wrestler? You know, you get cast in a role. Yeah. And all he does is like wrestle real hard. I was like, what's the story?

I mean, you look like he knew what he was doing. Also, there's nothing funny here to me than what Robert looked like because he was that first kind of, like he looked like a turtle on his back. Yeah, he was trying to like flip the other guy over and flailing about. And that's a very small space, you guys.

Imagine watching two grown men wrestling as hard as they can but just like one foot in front of you. Yeah, like between a couch and a coffee table they've moved. Well, I found Peter Gannon's resume and it does not look like he is a wrestler. He listed many special skills which were martial arts like Wando, boxing, scuba diving, horseback riding, golf, baseball, skiing, both water and snow. So I reached out to Steve Burgess and Steve Burgess said, no, he is an actor they hired and both Peter and James met with our stunt coordinator Tom DeWire and they just spent the morning wrestling and they came up with this wrestling choreography to make sure everyone would be safe in the scene. That just blew my mind. I don't know why. Yeah, what a crazy job to get. I know what you do today. I wrestled James Spader. Yeah, most of the morning. I didn't have any lines, but that was my job.

Well, I have a question for you. Yes. What happened to Gabe? What do you mean? I mean Gabe walked in with Dwight. Oh, he said, yay! While they were wrestling, what did we never see him again? Oh my gosh, you're so right. I didn't even notice that. Well, here is what I got obsessed with in this scene. And I'm glad I did, because it really pays off. When Robert is done wrestling, he offers Dwight an Oreo

from a platter of Oreos because he says they haven't really improved on the Oreo half-day. I did a deep dive on Oreos. I love that he brought him out on a platter and I love that you are doing a deep dive. I'm going to sit back. I can't wait to hear this. Well, first of all, you know, there's the Oreo and there's the Hydrox cookie. They're both sandwich cookies that have like chocolate with a cream filling, right?

Which one do you think came from? I've never heard of the Hydrox cookie. I don't know what you're saying about that. I don't know what you're saying. You've never heard of a Hydrox cookie? It sounds like something you like clean like you're sink with. Put in the Hydrox cookie. Cassie, have you heard of the Hydrox cookie?

Make sure you put in a Hydrox cookie in your dishwasher once. Cassie has not heard of the Hydrox cookie. Make sure you put in a Hydrox Cookie in your dishwasher once. Cassie has not heard of the Hydrox Cookie. Oh my gosh. Sam has. All right, growing up, the Hydrox Cookie was always kind of like, what? Like it was like the knockoff Oreo, right? Sam is nodding. Yes. I'm going to blow your mind, Sam.

The Hydrox came first. Oreo is a ripoff of the hydrox. Oh, but it ended up just surpassing the hydrox and popularity such that Cassie and Angela have not even heard of it. Why was it, what did Oreo do differently? I don't know, but it tastes better, right? The Oreo tastes better than the hydrox. Well, I don't know what first it tastes better, right? The Oreo tastes better than the Hydrox.

Well, I don't know what first error was naming it Hydrox. The Hydrox is a terrible name. It does sound like a cleaning solution. All right, but Oreos were created in 1912, which was about three years after the Hydrox, which was invented in 1908. Oreos were invented in New York City, and they are so popular that the street

in which the first Nabisco factory is located where the Oreo was first manufactured is actually called Oreo Way. It's in Chelsea, New York. This blew my mind. It takes two hours to make one Oreo cookie. That's how long it takes to make the whole thing. Today, they produce 40 billion Oreo cookies per year, and if you stacked them all together, they would circle the Earth five times. Wow.

Every year. Wow. Also in 2011, the Oreo cookie received the Guinness World Record for the world's biggest selling cookie with sales in excess of 500 billion since its debut. The Oreo cookie, while it takes two hours to bake, it only contains 11 ingredients. And Oreo cookies are kosher, and they're very popular with vegans because they contain no animal products. However, in their frequently asked questions, they do want you to know there is a risk of cross contamination because they are made in a facility that does make things with milk, although there is no milk in the Oreo. But here's the other crazy thing.

No one knows the origin of the name Oreo. We don't know why it's called an Oreo. Doesn't stand for anything. There's a lot of speculation that maybe it has like roots in some Latin word, but yeah. I was very excited when I did this deep dive in it dinner. I announced it to my whole family. What they think.

They were fascinated by it. My son has heard of the Hydrox, by the way. And he knew that the Hydrox came by the way, and he knew that the Hydrox came first. No, he knew. What? I was shocked that the Hydrox came first. I don't know, but he was like, Mom, everyone knows that. Everyone knows that. I did not know that. I know. So anyway, my family was like, where did the name come from? That was their big question. I was like, no one knows. Nobody knows. Hmm.

That, my friends, is your Oreo cookie deep-dive. It's making me want an Oreo. Well, I was doing this deep-dive to Oreos. And by the way, the gluten-free Oreo is delicious as well. My favorite Oreo is the yellow one, the lemon cream. No, isn't there one that's- The vanilla one? Yeah.

Yeah, it's very good. I like to put it in the fridge and eat it cold. You like a cold vanilla Oreo. Fascinating. I'm bringing on sex to your back. What? Well, Robert is really trying to do the thing he set out to do, the Peter principle.

He's trying to get Dwight to stay right in the position he's in. He's like, you don't want to live in Florida. And you know what? He said, I want to give you something. He says that he wants to give Dwight his grandfather's medal, that his grandfather was awarded for acts of courage and excellence. But he pulls it out of a drawer that I'm sorry. It looks like that catch-all drawer in your kitchen. Sure does.

It's got everything in it. And this special metal apparently. Yeah, and Dwight's like, you know what? I don't need a trinket from a flea market, you know? Yeah. I think Robert has a lot of these metals. I think this is his go-to drawer. Well, this is the thing.

So the fan catch from Scott P and Tennessee said, did you notice that the metal that Robert gives Dwight also appears framed at Gabe's desk? We talked about this. Yes. When you see Gabe's desk throughout this episode, you can see it plain as day. Thor M from Washington, DC also spotted this and added that he feels like this really shows the difference between Gabe and Dwight, that Gabe cherished this object and needed to display it, you know, maybe to impress Robert or maybe to impress other people. Stephanie and the lobby, I mean, it's right there

in his squirrel desk area. Thor also said, I actually have that medal. I was awarded it twice. Oh, Thor said humble brag, but actually have that medal. I was awarded it twice. Oh, Thor said humble brag, but the award that Robert is attempting to give Dwight is an army achievement medal. And this adds another level of irony to the show that I love as a veteran, because an AAM would never be given for bravery or valor, but it is more like an exemplary service medal, like as a commemoration of your time in a military unit.

And they are given as a going away medal, as like a summary of all your achievements at your unit before you move on to the next chapter. So he thought it was very interesting that Robert is handing out these sort of going away metal. Take this metal and now go away. Go away. Exactly. And in fact, he says to Dwight, I'll think of you if something comes up, now get the hell out of my condo. Yes. But you know what? Dwight likes it when he talks straight to him. Yeah. When he says, I'm not giving you this job,

but if something comes up that you're right for, I'll tell you. Right. So it's like, I accept that. That's enough for him. Yeah. Back at the bar, we're in the final round of trivia. We are, and I have a fun little background catch. During the scene, you can see out the windows, and it looks like night. Is Steve there in a beard and eyebrows? No, you never see him again.

But that was faking night. Oh, it was really day. Steve Healy said that we had to do day for night shooting. And day for night shooting is when they have to cover the windows with like big black scrims. But then they also have to put enough light outside the window that it looks like nighttime. They did a really good job. I became slightly obsessed with looking out the windows and being like, that's not really night. You had so much to look at in the background in this episode.

I really do. Very busy. I was. Well, in this final round, things are getting heated. The trivia host reads this question, the standard American analog scale has a maximum capacity of what weight? Kevin rings the bell, 300 pounds.

He knows the answer. No, the answer. Einstein's get it. Final question. For all the cine files out there, put on your memory burrays, the final question is a doozy. It's about a French film. Oscar thinks he has this in the bag. He's very confident with his answer. But no, it's incorrect. And who has the right answer, but Kevin? And the Einstein's win. The Einstein's win because Kevin answered the last two questions correctly.

Kevin, the person that Andy forced off the A team in the very beginning. Yes. Kevin has a great talking head where he says, you know, maybe tonight was a fluke, but fluke is the most common fish in the sea. It's the fish you're most likely to catch when you go fishing. There was a Kevin all talking head. It's in deleted scenes and he talks about his level of education. Here's what he said. When I dropped out of school to watch more sports, a lot of people thought I was nuts. Well, who's laughing now?

What's funny is that Kevin never answered a sports question. I know, I know. But we found out he dropped out of school. And then there's a deleted Oscar talking head where he sort of sums up the day. It's pretty funny, I'm gonna read it to you. It gets better kids. It gets so much better that one day your stupid co-workers will be excited to show up at your gay bar and ruin your trivia night Oh, boy. I don't think I want to be in that accounting clump tomorrow Hey, Angela had nothing to do with it. That's right. But it would be kind of icy between Kevin and Oscar.

So the tag for this episode is another trivia night. The Einstein's have made it to the state championships. The state championships in all of Pennsylvania. That's insane. The host of this trivia night is played by comedian Dan Levy. He is hilarious, by the way. And here's a crazy odd coincidence. Just one of those things how life comes back around. Dan was my husband's roommate when they

were in their 20s. No way. Yeah. Oh my god. They were roommates. They had met in an acting class. They're still friends. He is hilarious. And he tours with John Mulaney. He's so funny. I'm going to put a little swipe up to Dan because he's fantastic. Well, I remember him from his role in the TV show Enlightened. He is awesome. Oh, yeah. Well, guys, that is trivia. I want to give a big thank you to Steve Burgess and Steve Healy for all your tidbits.

You know, Angela Steve Healy was so sweet. I have to read you what he said at the end of our email chain. Okay. Talking about trivia. He just said thank you to both of us and he said, anytime I think back on the office, it's a deep wave of memories. Some of them just of the late nights and stress and weird food, but it's also so fun to remember. And more than anything, I am grateful I was part of such a project that people love so

much. I think that sums it up. Yeah, that's how I feel too. Yeah. And a special thank you to my friend Brian Gattis for sharing with us what it was like being on set shooting those bar scenes. Brian has been in a ton of things and you can check him out on Instagram at Built by Gattis.

He does his own ceramics, Jenna. Really? I know. I might be in the market for some ceramics. I love handmade things. You really do. Well, guys, thanks so much for listening. We have a two week end of summer break, and then we will be back with a new episode.

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