Oh What A Time... - #65 Pick n Mix 2 (Part 1)

Episode Date: September 15, 2024

We’re back and so is our much loved ‘Pick n Mix’ format in which we pick three random subjects to discuss and so this week for you we have.. The biggest hole ever built! How baby names have evolved down the years! And when exactly did having a sun tan become popular?! And this week we learned that one of these two things are true: 1) Every dark urban myth that went around Britain did actually REALLY HAPPEN in 90s Carmarthen and Elis simply didn’t have enough time on google to find the evidence, or; 2) Elis is the most gullible podcaster in Britain. If you have anything to contribute to this investigation, please do get in touch: [e-mail] If you fancy a bunch of OWAT content you’ve never heard before, why not treat yourself and become an Oh What A Time: FULL TIMER? In exchange for your £4.99 per month to support the show, you'll get: - two bonus episodes every month! - ad-free listening - episodes a week ahead of everyone else - And first dibs on any live show tickets Subscriptions are available via AnotherSlice, Apple and Spotify. For all the links head to: ohwhatatime.com You can also follow us on:  X (formerly Twitter) at @ohwhatatimepod And Instagram at @ohwhatatimepod Aaannnd if you like it, why not drop us a review in your podcast app of choice? Thank you to Dan Evans for the artwork (idrawforfood.co.uk). Chris, Elis and Tom x Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You have to go get some wood, chop it up, light the fire, hour later, get your venison, chuck it on, burn it, start again, fire's gone out, get more wood. Yeah, yeah, no shop to buy venison. Go and kill another animal, whichever animal contains venison, go and kill that one. Is venison the same as veal? Never been able to work that loud either. I'm never quite sure, which it is. Which one's problematic? I can never remember which I'm not allowed to order. No, that's a really interesting point. Oh my God, life without...

I mean, air friars, not everyone has an air friar. I think we can probably agree that we're not in the age of... Not a universal ownership of airifiers yet, but life without a microwave, the idea of life without a microwave stresses me out, especially with children, with having to reheat pasta, get milk to the right temperature, etc. Every no one then you'll meet someone who doesn't have a microwave. I think, oh come on. Come on. What kind of life is that? I don't know, you don't even understand it. What you make any porridge on the hob? Who do you think you are? You gone Rooney. Whack it in! Do you know what I did recently, Ellis, by the way, talk about porridge on the hob?

I think this might be a sign that I'm losing my mind. I don't know if this is true or not. I was making pasta for the to get the water pre-boiled, then go and pour the water into the pan that was on the hob, I pick up the kettle and instead of pouring the water into the pan, I just put a kettle on the hob and walk off. The kettle melts, the fire alarms are going off, I go back, what have I done? And I'm sure that is probably a first sign of insanity, isn't it? So I've melted our kettle. I don't want to alarm you, but it was that very act that alerted my family to the fact my Nan might have dementia. That's exactly what she did in a meal. But I was also dealing with the kids at the time. It's worth saying I was trying to look after two children,

life was busy. Over the last year or so, I now get my sentences completely mixed up. So I'll say, go and eat your kitchen in the breakfast. But I'll also say it to the wrong person. I'll say, come on, mum, go and eat your kitchen in the breakfast. And I think, no, I'm talking to my son, and that is breakfast in the kitchen. What's happened there? I wonder at what point our listeners will draw a line? the the their th. th. th. th. their th. th. th. thi I? thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi, thi, thi. to to to to to to to go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go go. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the thi. the thi. the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thi. thi. point our listeners will draw a line under this podcast when it would get so rambling and incoherent. They're like, well, it's not listable now. How many series away are we away from that? Two of the three have gone. Oh, it's good to be back. I'm Chris Scull saying, God, God, I've had a lot of fun Googling stuff this week. Oh, it's good to be back. I'm Chris Skull. I'm Ellis James. And I am Tom Crane and each week on this show as you will know we look at a brand new historical subject and this week we're going to be looking at pick and mix. Once again not an hour on pick and mix the sweets. It is three separate, disparate subjects we thought could be really, really fun to talk about this week. So this week we're looking th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th thi thi, we're thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. I thi, I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm th. I'm thi. I'm thi. I'm thi. to the. the. to theeee. to to to to to to to to to to to to thin. to the. the. I'm thi. I'm the sweets. It is three separate, disparate subjects that we thought could be really, really fun to talk about this week. So this week, we're looking at baby name choices

down the ages, digging the biggest hole ever, and I'm talking about the invention of the suncream. But it's going to be a good episode. No, but we've talked about Chris's suggestion that cinemars are entirely propped up by sweets before. that been backed up by about 15 different listeners, to be fair. That's incredible. So we have talked about sweets quite a lot. Initially, completely ridiculing Chris and then we realize actually there might be something in it, which is a bit annoying. Oh God, one of the things he heard in the pub has turned out to be true. Can you imagine Chris Skull when it comes to pub bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit the pu pu pu pu pu pu pu when when when when when when to to to to to the to th th. to th. to publish bullshit in the pre-smartphone age, believing

everything he's told. Yeah. Yeah. God, there's a guy over there. He's king of Denmark. He's just a normal guy. They've got a completely different approach to the monarchy in Scandinavia. So he's just having a pinnague.

He's just having a pinn. to be wearing a vest. completely normal blow. Yeah, he hasn't even got a Danish accent. It's such a mad system over this. Scull, which of these rumors growing up did you believe, just out of interest? Number one, that there was a kid in a neighboring school who got so stressed in his GCSEA exams, he put two pencils up his nose, whacked his head against the desk and killed himself? Did you believe that? Did you believe that? Did you believe it? Um, yeah, yeah? Yeah, I, their, their, their, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, th. Yeah, their, their, th. Did, th. Did, th. Did, th. Did, th. Did, th. th. Did, that? that? that? that? that? th. that? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. that? that? th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, there you go. Right, second one, there's razor blades in the water slide at the local swimming pool. That did happen in Swansea. That is true. Did it? Yeah, yeah. Oh, come on. Oh, come on. I'm gonna have to find the news article. Hang on. You speak amongst yourselves. But, well, I mean, that was true of, they said that in East London.

They was like, oh, don't go to, I think it was late and leisure lagoon. Yeah, they've superglued razors down the slide. Nonsense. It happened in every town. Did you hear that rumor that one of Keenan and Keller died? This isn't a pre-internet age. Right, yeah. And I'm happy to report the Bo still alive. But in the mid-90s playground that ripped it around. So what was the cause of death? It was hazy. It was hazy. Okay. What about, okay, next one, that Iraq had WMDs and the run up to the... Did you believe that one? So that sold me down the river that, yeah. Here's a big one for my youth was that at at that at that at that at the that at their, Iraq. I their, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, the river that, yeah. Here's a big one for my youth was that at the local funfair, there was this ride which was like a really fast spinning ride

where you stand in it and the centrifugal force keeps you against the wall. Have you seen that one? It's almost like a wall of death. The wall of death, that's exactly it. The rumor was that someone got flung out of the wall of death, went a mile and was found in a tree. That was the other thing. It was found in a tree a mile away from the funfare.

Dead, obviously. I believe that one. I did believe that one. Do you know, I went on a ski trip with school once, and the rumor went on that the translator had jumped off the ski lift over a mountain. Right. And they were like yeah they're not telling us they're not tell us what actually happened to her because she jumped off the ski lift off the mountain. Wow and that could have been true, impossible to Google. I once mocked the Swansea razor blade slide rumor on another podcast and someone sent me a

link to an old newspaper article claiming that it had happened. Unfortunately yeah I don't remember it didn't happen to me but someone did send me a newspaper article claiming that it happened in Swansea but obviously it now I'm talking the more I, the more like bullshit it sounds. Incredible though, that that's spread around all of the UK. Yeah. You heard it in Bath, Skull heard it in London, and I heard it in Wales.

Did you have this one in Kamarthan Ellis, that one of the local kebab shops, they'd done a test on they found, this is what they said in Bath, 14 traces of semen, not all of them human. Not all of the human was the detail I thought was. I don't know how they're testing to that. It wasn't. What? Why do you?

Why do you just believe every urban myth? You're like, no, no, no, no. That actually did happen? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, this is how they continue to exist and survive, Ellis. Well, you Google that, Ellis, can I just say this, right? What kind of lab is there that not only is testing for semen, go, I don't know, there is semen, how many different strains? How many different strains? What are you're getting up to 14 different types as well? Once you get to three, maybe at most, you've got human cat and dog.

Where you go from there? Finding a duck, what's going on? What's that be? One of these is a pig? You're not getting 14 different. Unless you own a zoo, you're not getting to 14 one that might have a disparate enough by the fever. This was all human. It was all human. No one was claiming that there was anything other than a human.

God. Ellis, you can't keep saying, oh no, this one is real. Because this is how these things have continued to exist. You're supposed to have shed this by the time you hit about 12. Someone needs, someone who remembers this needs to, needs, needs to email the show. The crosshands is 11 miles, 11 miles from come on the one. That was the one. That was the one. If you were one of the 14 blokes on the mayonnaise factory line that day, yeah, email us. Hello, oh what are time? That's just a frozen burger.

Yeah, that's obviously different. This is not Jake! Are you Wales' most gullible map? Oh yeah, that one did happen. Or it might have been on a pizza. I don't know. Anyway, jizz and take away food definitely happened at some point. And razor blades. I'm beginning to send me a link to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to it to to to to the to the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. that. t. Razorblade, yeah. Yeah, the razor blades, I'm beginning to change my mind. Oh, someone did send me a link to it. Oh, someone sent you a link on the internet, then it must be.

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and we are currently on our Trinity term break, which I have spent gardening and cooking, two of the great joys in life, whilst living the perfect life of a bog which, I have been re-listing to old episodes of the pod, which I do love so very much. I frequently listen to five or six episodes back and be doing this for two weeks now. I have a very serious question now. Is Tom okay? When you listen to a person

experiencing so many embarrassing and at times tel right tragic events in a succession you start to worry. Tom, do you not get me wrong. It's very funny how many mishaps you've survived. I do experience true joy or expense by I'm starting to become genuinely concerned. Because thou thanks for a brilliant show. Kind regards Marie Marie Coutois. So I genuinely be intruded after your response to this. Do you think I'm okay? Hmm. Ellis? A little chin scratch. Why the silence? You're the mishap king. I mean I've never met anyone like it. It's incredible. And yet you have managed to forge yourself career and that's the thing that makes me think, well you must be okay. to the thi thi thi tho tho tho tho thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi think thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi to thi to to thi thi to thi toooooooooooooo. Doe to to to to to to to doe do do do do do thi thi And yet you have managed to forge yourself career and that's the thing that makes me think well you must be okay at something. You're married,

a great father, your children of you and yet it is cock up after cock up. I would say the main tragedy of your life craze. Oh that's a big sentence. It's still alive. It's a great shame that you can't monetize to a greater extent your own mishaps. Because you would be the Steve Jobs of mishaps. Yes, yes, yeah, the Jeff Bezos of the Corkup. You were a trailblazer of mishaps. There is no one. No, no, no. The really sad thing is that Tom wasn't born 600 years ago. Can you imagine him as a court jester? It would be...

The king would love you. My leggings on inside out. Slip on the bell is attached to your foot. He's loving it. Slip on the bell attached to your foot and then slide into the medieval banquet. Slip on the bell attached to your foot and then slide in the the the the the the the the the medieval the medieval the medieval the medieval the medieval the medieval the medieval the medieval the apes throwing. Slip on the bell as attached to your foot, break your leg. He's loving it. Slip on the bell attached to your foot and then slide into the medial banquet and then head first into the hoge. Stand up, hogs on your head, fall over into the fire. No no I get get up because obviously you've been burnt, you fall on the other side.

Scepter straight up the bum. Round of applause from everyone, no too fair. What a show. He's like, this guy. This is the one. Let me just give a little bit of defense. I think a lot of the things happen to me. They're not always things I have done in my defense. Let me give you an example.

You are always, you're the one constant in these stories. That is true. I'm out in Paris at the moment for the Paralympics. I'm writing for the last leg, this is a Channel 4 show, and we went out for drinks with the entire team about three nights ago. So we sat in the bar, this is an example of a story, which is not my fault, okay. We're in a bar. There's there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there's there's there's there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there, there. there, there. there. there, there. there. there. there. there. There, there. There, there. There, there, there, there, there, okay we're in a bar there's a girl probably in her mid-twenties who starts yelling she's very drunk and quite sort of angry she and she is in love with mishaps she's on a tinder day everything has gone swimmingly she's devastated she needs she needs the missup king she was then chucked out of the bar by the security people there then there's banging on the window outside and shouting and screaming and yelling.

Just like, so loud, so angry, so distressed. I say to the team with the last leg, I'm gonna go and check, she's all right, gonna see this is okay. So I go outside, open the door. She's now sat by a line bike on the floor, yelling, screaming, she's yelling, she's so so angry, about a group of 15 French people gather to see what's going on, at which point she stands up, points at me and yells, he killed my family.

He killed my family! So I turned around, thinking there must be someone behind me. There's nobody behind me. It is me. I turned back again, and to see what, to see what's the their, to see. I that, to th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, the the the their, their, their to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their tho. their their their thed around thinking there must be someone behind me. There's nobody behind me. It is me. I turned back again and she yells again, he killed my family. This French guy next me said, what have you done, mate? And I turned to him and said something I never thought I'd have to say, which was just to be clear, I didn't kill her family. I've never met him in my life. No idea. She keeps yelling it. I'm going, no, I'm really generally just with my work colleagues. There's a lot of, look, just come, I'll introduce you. She then lies back in the road. Ahead's where the buses are going.

I step forward thinking we just need to help her. Check she's going to be all right. James, who's another writer, think you should be the person to sort this out. So I'm then taken back inside and she's taken away, still yelling, admittedly at this point now yelling at other people but not suggesting they killed her family. Wow. She disappeared into the prison night. Yeah, but 15 people. He killed my family. Okay, one thing. Amazing evening get filled in by a French have-a-go hero, Yeah, which would have be. What a mad thing to say to work and your wife. Yeah. Got being up by a woman who I was trying to help

who claimed that I'd killed her family. Got beaten up by a bystander who was exacting street justice. Other than that, shows are going really well, Paris is lovely. Uh, It's... Wow. To reflect the fact that I've always... There's a sort of gag writer's mind as she pointed at me and yelled, he killed my family. I turned to James and went, oh, plot twist. It was just like a minute.

Help, but sort of try and lighten the mood in some way. Saying to a guy just to be clear, I haven't killed her family is a weird thing.. Help but sort of try and light in the mood in some way. Saying to a guy just to be clear, I haven't killed her family. Senators you never thought you'd say it then to start that night out. It is weird though some people do attract trouble. Even, and those people attract trouble, occasionally I've been on people who on nights out when they try not to attract trouble, they attract trouble. Okay. Are you saying I'm one of those people? Well you've walked into that, you've walked into that. Yeah. When I wanted to check she was alright, she was like, yeah, I'm telling the story.

Yeah, okay. Check people are okay. Check people are okay. I suppose. that's a good guy. Otherwise, what hope has society got if you're not going to check the people are all right? But still. You're a good guy. It's just you were born 400 years too late and you haven't got those sort of pointy shoes that Jester's wore. I think she was very, very drunk because then she started yelling stuff at other people and sort of what, yeah.

Goodness. me. But anyway, that's me. So in conclusion, am I okay just to answer the email from our listener? Yes or no, let's have it's nice and simple. Chris, am I okay? I would say yes. Thank you very much and Ellis? Juris out. Not quite the vote of confidence you're looking for. Your autobiography is going to make a quite stunning read but you are going to stretch credibility on every page. And it'll be full of typo. I miss them. Now if you've ever been accused of murder or you're the sort of person that attracts trouble or let's just say this, have you had things happen to you that are equally as humiliating the sort of things that happen to me that make me feel a little bit better about my lot.

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I will be telling you all about how baby's names have evolved through history. And at the end of the show, I'll be talking to you about the invention of sun cream. But I'm gonna start off this week's episode by discussing holes. We've all got kids, we've all been to the beach, we've all been kids because that's how it works. Um, yeah. What what age is prime digging age do you think? That's a great question. I think it might be five because on my summer holiday I introduced my daughter who's five to the concept of digging a big hole and you immediately she was like this is a brilliant idea. They love it. They love it. And then I think once you you get to about 10 you still love digging but you're that much older and better coordinated

and that much stronger you can you can dig quite a deep hole at ten if you've got the time. If you're on the beach all afternoon and if you've chosen a good spot, you can you can dig for ages. And then I always fill it in because I was, I always worry that someone's gonna, you know, walk along and sort of fall and break an ankle or something. Yeah, no in no no fear your whole family. He killed my family. I once when I was about eight or nine, my neighbors, Max Mile, Jos and Agatha, went up to Joss and Agatha's house and they dug a hole, covered it with sticks and invited me up the road, so I fall in it.

Once again, attracting mischief. But that's not my doing. I think if someone is digging a hole and covering it with sticks and you fall into it, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my the the the th, my th, my th, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that, my that that, my that that thi that, my that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that thi thi thi thi thi thi thi, my thi, my th, my th, my th, my th, my that th, my that that that that that that th, my that that that th, my that thi, my thi, my thi, thi thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin the thin thin thin thin thin, my doing. I think if someone is digging a hole and covering it with sticks and the hope that you fall into it, I don't think that's on you. No, I think the thing is, that's not the digs of the hole. You are like a black hole of calamity. Yeah. Everything just goes into a singularity of mischief. You just suck it all in. You just suck you. You are the thread for all of this. Like the pied piper. Everywhere you go, you just attract it. I've never met. Another person to an exeter, Henry Packer from Three Bean Salad,

who I write as it come with. I know Tom writes a sitcom with with is, I'm going to say this, I'm saying this with love, okay? I love reincarnate Nathan. I think it's one of the funniest radio sitcoms I've ever heard. What I will say is I'm amazed you get it submitted on time. Well, after our meeting with our producer this morning, it's looking into his story, to be honest. Our producer Harriet was going, just to be clear, we do need to hit this day, it's going to be really stressful if we don't, and then Henry says, I can't promise you any of this is going to happen. So I hear what you're saying, Harriet, but I can't promise you any of that's going going to happen. And he, speaking of both, the two of the the to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, to, just, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, to, I, to, to me, to me, to, to, to me, to me, to, to, to me, to me, to, to me, to, to, to me, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, bloody hell, I would love to see it in action.

I would, I mean, I'm a friend of you both. I would love, I would pay to be in the writers' room and just not say anything, just watch it happen. Just watch. Just be a fly on the wall. But, holes, well, you know, it's a thing you tell kids and if you keep digging and you end up in Australia and like another thing that happens when you're five is you as soon as you discover that the Australians and New Zealanders are on the other side of the world, trying to explain to them that they're not upside down is more difficult than you think. How they're not falling off exactly. What's weird is my kids, when they were four or five,

understood that the world was round. There are some adults who dispute that. Yes, yeah. How is that still happening today? Amazing. It seems, it's actually, I would say, gathered pace, that rumor. It seems to be catching on. It was a bit of a myth that people in the past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past past that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that th. a bit of a myth that people in the past thought the world was flat.

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to reach the bottom, i.e., about one-third of the way into the Earth's crest because then obviously it would be mantel and then magmare of the Earth's core. So the Soviet were the Soviet were fascinated by the Soviets. So the Soviet were the Soviet were so. So, the Soviet were so. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it would would would would would would would would th. So, it would th. So, it would the so thi, it would so th. So, it would thi, it would the so thi. So, it would the so the so the so the so the so. So, it would would the so. So, it would th. So, it would would would would would would would would would would would would would would would would would would would would would would so. So, it, it would so. So, it would so. So, it would so. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, th. So, it would would so, it would so, the so, it would the so, it would the so, the so, ta. So, the so, took. So, took. So, took. So, the so, the so, the so, the so, the so. So, it would, that is a far more fun textbook than the textbooks I had. Tell me about steps and how quickly I could run to the middle of the earth. Mine was so boring. Yes, I would have been like, okay, I'm gonna be a scientist actually. What a fun school. Yeah. So, the story goes something And the idea was to drill as far into the Earth's crust as possible, which is all part of a research project into ultra-deep mining.

And also, and I love this about the Cold War, to demonstrate the capacity of Soviet science and ingenuity, despite having lost to the United States and the race to put humans on the moon. Because it was about prestige. Yeah, so much of it was back then, especially American so it's all about showing your power, your, how advanced you are, your wealth, it's kind of, it's such a fascinating period for that, but it's just, what was the better model, communism or capitalism? And it was, let's let's find out by digging a big hole. Well it was a debate, yeah, now this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was this was th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their thoea.a. theat.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a.a. thooooooooo. toe. toe. their their Yeah now this was this was the era of the Superhole. So there was the Bertha Rogers bore hole in Oklahoma which that was the product of exploration for oil and natural gas resulting in a then world record depth of 9,583 meters. So more far could run it but just going in a

a very different direction. So this depth was reached at Perth Rogers on the 13th of April, 1974. It's almost 9,000 meters down. I can't even imagine, yeah, you can barely get your head around how deep that is. Well, like maybe you can, but I can't. But that's staggering. It's just, it blows my mind. So how to how tall, for example, is the Empire State Building in meters? Let's have a look here. Oh, like the tallest building in the world is about a kilometer, isn't it?

The one the building in Saudi Arabia. So the Empire State Building stands 380 meters tall. And how many, how many meters are that L? the shard? The shard is... I bet it's like 600, 700, 700. Is 309 meters tall. They're trying to build the tallest building in the world in Saudi Arabia and even that is a kilometer. I'm 99% sure. But you'd have you'd have coal mines in the UK in Wales that were a mile down to the pit face. But you'd you you you you you'd you'd you'd you'd you'd you'd you'd you'd you'd you'd have you'd have you'd have you'd have you'd have you'd have you'd have you'd have the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th th th th th th th th th th tho' that thate' th. th th tho' tho' tho' tho' tho' th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th that that that that that that that that that that that theeea'ea'ea'ea'er's thea'ea'er's that that that that that know a mile down easy. I just think if I was down there at the pit face knowing that it was a mile of rock above me I would that is panic attack central isn't it? Yeah absolutely. Not enjoying this!

Not enjoying this! Yeah the tallest building in the world is being constructed in Jedda Saudi Arabia it's called the Jedda Tower and it's aiming to be the first building to be a kilometer tall. tall. tall. tall. the tall. the the tall. the the tall. So the to the to to to the tall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. t. t. t. t. t. t. t. the. t. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the te. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. ta. Yeah.'s called the Jedda Tower and it's aiming to be the first building to be a kilometer tall. So you're talking about nine of those in a row. That is insane. Yeah. The other thing I get, do you get this when people talk about like extreme depths and big holes like this, I just immediately my thought goes to falling in them. Oh yeah yeah and take an Aegis to shabot. Yeah, it's like, the the th. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, th. And th. And th. And th. And thi, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, thi, it's thi, it's th. And th. It's th. It's th. It's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's th. It's th. It's th. It's thi. It's thi. It's ti. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's thi. It's th. It's th an Aegis to us your bottom. Yeah, it's like you see those crevices that are hundreds of meters deep and you just think I would fall in that somehow and that would be my fault. By coincidence, the Soviet installed a brand new boring machine at Kola the same year, this one capable of reaching depth of 15,000 meters, which was the new target set by the state. So the Kola bore hole a hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the new target set by the state. So the Coler bore hole exceeded the Bertha Rogers one on the 6th of June 1979 and they just kept going. So by October 1982,

the hall had reached a depth of 11,662 meters. By far the deepest humans had ever drilled into the earth's crust, where temperatures exceeded 180 degrees Celsius but still not to the anticipated target. It was at this point that Tom Crane was walking past reading a broadsheet paper, not looking where he was going. But luckily the broadsheet paper acted as a parachute and cushioned his fall. That's why he's designed to play. So new holes were dugers branches off the original shaft. Eventually in 1989 the drill reach a depth of 12,262 meters, which is still the world record.

Incredible. This despite an insistence in 1989 that the Kohler's super deep borehole must be sunk to a depth of 13,500 meters by the end of 1990. It is proposed that the plan depth of 15,000 meters be reached in 1993. But, Tom, you're going to be fine. The hole was only 9 inches wide and in any case it's been sealed off since the project was liquidated nearly 20 million years ago. Drilling itself stopped in 1995. 20 million years ago? Drilling itself stopped in 1995. Drilling itself stopped in 1995, although the 1989 depth was never exceeded. So that's 12,262 meters. At this depth, the rock was so hot that it simply melted and each time the drill bit was lifted

an action necessary after every three or four hours of excavation, liquid granite oozed into the gap. So this problem has never overcome, so hydrogen gas was a consistent presence as well. So as one of the Soviet scientists put it in 1981, Nature does not willingly part with its secrets. Oh, yeah. I like that. It's a nine-inch-wide hole that goes for 12,000 meters. And the drilling had uncovered microscopic plankton fossils at a depth of six to seven kilometers, which proves just how much the Earth's crust has built up over billions of years. So yeah, the goal of the project was to reach the Mohorovic discontinuity, right? The boundary between the crust and the mantle of the planet, which was named after a Croatian seismologist Andrea Mahorovic, who first identified it in

1909. So a US endeavor known as Project Mohol was conceived in 1957 and launched in 61, and that began drilling under the Pacific Ocean of the coast of Mexico. John Steinbeck, who wrote the Grapes of Wrath, the Nobel Prize-willing novelist, was commissioned to write propaganda for it. but it, and th, and th, and th, and th, but in it, and th, and th, and the it, and the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, th, th, th. And, and, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, the, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the the the the the the the the the the toe. toe. toe. toe. toe. to. the to. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, es of Wrath, the Nobel Prize-Willing novelist, was commissioned to write propaganda for it. But in the end, because the US government had committed to the Apollo Space Programme and the Vietnam War, project no-hole, as people lampooned it, it was cancelled in 1966, and it had already cost $57 million by that point. So this left the Kolo Endeavour to push on towards the moorhol but they never

got quite got there, but that didn't stop efforts to drill multiple super deep boreholes across the former Soviet Union. There was a project Azerbaijan which began in 1977, there was another plan for Ukraine, where in the words of those in charge, a fascinating journey into the unknown stands before us. And I think if I'd been involved in the Cold War, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the war, th. th. th. the war, th. th. to, to, to, to, to, to, the the the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to th. But, th. But, th. the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the, the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi. to, togu. toguu. togui. togu. togu. togu. togu. togu. to to togu. And I think if I'd been involved in the Cold War, that kind of project away from the war for in the fighting, I would have loved to be involved in one of those. You're like, yeah, I'm a scientist, I'm good at this, just let me get on with tigging the biggest whole humanity has ever seen. And you do you, but thinnest hole in the world. Yeah. Your choices are Vietnam War or here's a spade, go dig the biggest hole ever dug. Yeah. Great. I'm in. Can you dig, yes.

Can you dig for 10,000 meters? Yes. Off you go then. Surely you need to come to Simon. I'm a kind of agreement that you're digging a hole and so is whatever country is on the other side of the world from you, that both of you are digging a hole at the same time. Let's see if we can meet up. Let's make, let's like, the ultimate Euro tunnel. Yeah, like, between. The ultimate euro tunnel. Someone, if someone clever is listening, say there was a slide, like a big tube from here

to Australia and you jumped in it, would you get to the middle and then just stay there? Or would your momentum carry you through to Australia? No, it wouldn't, would it? That's stupid. Yeah. You'd probably go slightly past halfway but then you're coming back halfway aren't you? You're just locked in the middle of the earth. Either way you're you're definitely you're cooking aren't you? You're not emerging. Temperatures aside I know it's 180 even not that deep in respect to the size of the earth. This is the kind of thing that if it was that that that that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you that you would that you'd th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. to to to to to to to to to to th. to to to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. to go. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the the the the the the the the th. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the. the. the. the. th. th. th. th the size of the earth. This is the kind of thing that if it was that you'd see on page 13 of a tabloid newspaper and the first line of the article would be, Boffins have worked out. That is genuinely interesting question if it ever knows the answer to that.

Boffins at Reading University have worked out. Wouldn't the gravitational forces be strongest in the center of the earth? Would you be crushed by the gravity of the center of the earth as you try to slide through to Australia? Chris, you're not surviving this slide, this death slide. Absolutely. The death slide. What if there's water flowing through it like when you're at a water park?

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Take your sunglasses off. One at a time! See if it's nine inches wide, this little hole, there is a chance that like a field mouse or something could have fallen into it. Yes. Something small could have made that planet. There could be a field mouse, something down there, a snail. Why do you want to end this section with leaving that thought? I'm just saying they could be? What a way to go, to be honest. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, thi, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, so thin, thin, thin, so thin, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, if it, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, thin, th i i i i, thin, th i i, th i i, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thi's thiiiiiii's thiiiiiiii'' thii' thi' thi's thi's th with leaving that thought. I'm just saying they could be. What a way to go to be honest. Something has fallen in it isn't it? Like something alive has fallen in it. I'd like to think that the Soviets was preventing that

from happening and they would just sit they were just sitting next to this very, very deep hole. They put a cork in it. Or someone's employed to keep their thumb in it all the time. Nine inches wide, you could have a lid, could it? What are you doing today? Oh, I'm making the lid for the deepest hold of humanity has ever seen. It could be a plate. First lid, you've made it slightly too small, down it goes. Oh no, it's the one thing we didn't want thah tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho tho thin thin thin thin thin thin' thin' thin' tho didn't want to happen. You could put a pizza across it. It's so obvious now. You can put a 12 inch pizza across it. This is Soviet Russia. They didn't have to be like

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