On Display with Melissa Gorga - Very Brad Things (w/ Brad Goreski)

Episode Date: January 20, 2022

It's a Brad Brad World and we're all living in it!  Melissa is thrilled to welcome TV personality, celebrity stylist, and fasion guru, Brad Goreski, onto the show to talk about all things fashion and style. What's it like styling the big names in Hollywood? How do you critique your friends on the red carpet... without getting in trouble? Are the 90s styles coming back? And Brad answers the big question we're all wondering; should we "dress our age"?  Treat yourself and enjoy this glammed-out episode.  This week's sponsors: Beachbody: beachbody.com/melissa (14 days free) BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/gorga (10% off first month) POMP Flowers: pompflowers.com; promo code: MELISSA10 (10% off)

You're listening to Melissa Gorga on display with me Melissa Gorga on podcast one. I know you can't believe it when I said it. You don't need me. Is that the word? I don't think so. I want you to sing it. What's up everybody? Welcome back to Melissa Gorga on display. I am so happy that you guys all love to tune in and listen. The support that I have gotten from all of you has been absolutely incredible. I do want to specifically shout out some of the listeners who have DMed me, which so many of you have, but Christine Kelsey, who saw Ali Cadillac, Lindsay Barton,

Natalie Cardamus, Isabella P.X. And Melissa Heel, just to name a few. Oh, oh, oh, oh, an Emily Castle official. Your video that you posted of you accidentally recording your own video with my podcast playing in the background was so funny. I absolutely love to see it. You guys make me smile each and every day. So keep damning me. I like you light up the room. I literally get so excited. So thank you so much. I just got into the studio New Jersey is so cold right now. It is freezing. It was like eight degrees yesterday. It's snowed. It's just so so cold and the studio is freezing. I mean, one of those buildings where it's like the heat is like automatic. And so I called the landlord and told them to turn off the heat

in my area because it's way too hot and I can't breathe. And like I literally cracked the windows usually in the middle of December. But I literally just walked in, I am freezing. I am sitting on my hands. I am just trying to get warm over here. It is so cold. So that's my life today.

I'll probably be talking to my guest with gloves on. But also, what did I do this weekend? Oh, so I went to a wrestling tournament. I don't know if any of you have any wrestlers and for your kids' wrestle, if you have nieces, nephews. Oh my God, guys, so stressful for me. I mean, Geno and Joey are both great wrestlers. I'm going to say that Geno is like the wrestler. He is like crazy, crazy into it.

He's really, really good. I know a lot of you like see him on Instagram and can't believe the kid is jacked. It's crazy. He has so many muscles. He's just like a mussely lean boy. That's just how he is. But anyway, I went over the weekend and I was like watching my kids do all their things. So I'm watching wrestling and, oh my God, Gina went up against this one boy. He was so good.

And Gina never really gets too much of a challenge. Well, let me tell you, this boy was a challenge. He had his arm. I was screaming. I was having a panic attack. It is the most stressful thing for me. I actually love it because wrestling falls right around the time of Antonia's cheer competitions.

So Joe always ends up going to wrestling and I always end up going to the cheer comps. But when I, you know, I go to wrestling when there's not a cheer comp that day. And let me just tell you panic attack. The anxiety I get watching is just crazy. Like they had genos arm pulled back so far. I was literally screaming, Joe's like you're so annoying.

You're crazy. Be quiet. Oh my god, like I'm the mother who will run onto the mat and my little heels will put like little holes in the mat because I can't breathe watching my son wrestle. So I don't know if you have any other like wrestling moms out there, but oh my god, I can't know if you have any other like wrestling moms out there, but oh my god, I can't handle it. I literally cannot handle it. It's like freaks me out.

Went to a cheer comp too. So that was good. I went to Antonio's cheer comp. So good. They're good. She's with her new school. Everyone knows she tore her ACL and she's doing so much better. She's full on cheering again. She's flipping again. She's doing all of her tumbling so I'm proud of her for that. So that's what's been going on over here in my world. I'm really really looking forward to this next guest. He is a well-known celebrity stylist. He's a television personality and you can watch him on Bravo TV. You can watch him on e the red carpet. This is where he shares all of his do's and don'ts on celebrity fashion. Ladies and gentlemen, Brad Goreski. What's up, pretty boy. What's up, pretty lady? Hi, Melissa. You look great. Thank you. I'm a hot mess over here in Ridgewood, New Jersey.

It's rainy snowy cold. It's so cold in Jersey. Oh, no, what a bummer. Well, we're a little rainy today in LA, but I think we're going to go up to about 70. So I got to beat I think. I feel so bad for you guys don't even realize. Like in January and February and like, you know,

the East Coast, it's misery. It's really, really cold. Unless you just like put on all the gear and go skiing and be cute. Like it's just you want to be in your pajamas by like five, six o'clock, literally pajama time for us at five or six. Girl, I grew up in Canada. Like I know the drill. Okay.

So yeah, oh my God. Yeah. Like the sun might be coming out for 25 minutes and then it becoming night time. Yeah, it's literally what happens. It's nighttime here at like 530 and all I want to do is put on like the big oversized sweatshirt and like the socks that go up to my knees and I'm happier than a pig and shit like that. But you're going to have to start turning out some looks soon, Melissa. I know. I know. I know. When we need to talk about this and we're going to get into start turning out some looks soon, Melissa. I know. The new season coming up. I know.

And we need to talk about this. And we're going to get into all of this. But first, let me just say to you, your Instagram, okay, and your reenactments, you're equally known for styling as you are for like your Instagram housewives reenactments. Like what made you start doing this? You know, it came out of quarantine boredom, to be honest. I was upstairs in my attic, and I opened up this bag,

and I was like, where are all these wigs come from? And, excuse me, I was like, where are all these wigs come from? And that's when I did the first housewives TikTok, I was just kind of figuring out the platform and the dances were like a lot for me. Like it was taking me like five hours. I was like getting plantar, foshiatis. I was like hurting my ankle.

Like I was literally setting up ring lights during the pandemic because my daughter was doing one in that room and everyone was just doing it and I was bored and I was like, okay, and it would take me like 10 takes to, I was like, this is bullshit. Like this is bullshit. But anyway, yeah, sweating, ripping my pants, like doing the whole. So then I just, I love the housewives. I always have, you know, from I've watched Jersey from season one, all the way through, you know, all of them. We do all of them.

And so I was just kind of playing around on TikTok and found a sound and I was like, oh, I can make my voice match up with these sounds, which is so strange. And then I just like kind of threw it up for something fun just to have some content and like the response was so crazy. And then it actually became a big creative outlet

because I, you know, I do the wigs, I do, I try to match the clothes as closely as possible. And so it became like this whole creative outlet of me trying to see how close to the actual clip I could also get. It's so good. I mean, it's like pee your pants. When you do Lisa Rennah, and like you put on the little wig. You've done sprinkle cookies. You've done the sprinkle cookies for Jersey.

I did sprinkle cookies. I've done the table flip. I've done, you know, I've gone through I think a lot of the iconic scenes throughout the franchise. So now I just really depend on like really good quality content season to season. Yes. Like you are waiting, you are watching and waiting for your moment for as soon as the previews come out and like, where's the scene? What's the big scene? Oh my god. You're pretty, you're good at it. Did you know you were, I mean, listen, you truly were like, you know, if we're, if we're getting into like how you got your star and all of that, I mean, you truly were the breakout star of the Rachel Zo project. You were, you were the breakouts are like everyone knew your name, everybody wanted to know you. You just, you had that personality. I feel like that's kind of where you, you broke into like obviously the Bravo

universe. Yeah. But into this world, right? I mean, is that how you would say you got your start with all of this? Absolutely. I mean, so I when I I went to school and I interned at Vogue and before I got the job at Rachel's though, I was the assistant to the West Coast editor of Vogue here in L.A. And so I worked there for about three months. And then I got the job offer from Rachel, because I had reached out to her, you know, like a year before I got the job and they were like, we don't have any openings, we don't have any openings. And then once her assistant quit, which actually kind of was at the same time as me kind of just finding my legs in this new job at Vogue, I decided that I would go and work with her because I really loved, I mean, at the time,

like what she was doing with Kira Knightley and Nicole Richie and Lindsay Lohan, it was like completely transformative, it changed the game of Brett Carpet. And so I thought, do I wanna be, you know, kind of trying to get to New York so I can be in the mix at like Vogue Vogue or do I wanna stay here in LA?

And obviously I chose to stay in LA because my husband is here Gary and I didn't want to move to New York. And I started working with Rachel and part of the deal was that I would have to be on the TV show, which I was a little like I didn't really know if I wanted to be on reality TV, because at the time it didn't kind of have, you know, people weren't responding to it the way that they do now. Right. Just in terms. It was more of a negative then. A little bit. Yeah, and since I was starting out my career, I was like, ooh, do I really want this reality TV thing following me if I want to be like, like fashion or whatever, taken seriously. And Gary actually said to me, okay, so how will you feel if you, when you turn on the show and you watch like the first episode? And I was like, I'll probably feel like I wish I had done it. He was like, well, then you should go and do it. And I did the show and learned

everything I could from Rachel and Taylor. And it was like such a moment in time because it was also like Twitter had just started as I was like literally started like during the second season of the show, I think it was. And there was no real social media. So we also didn't really have any awareness, Taylor and I of like what the response to the show was, you know, because they're also working. I didn't know until we went to fashion. Twitter's what kind of let us all know everything in the world. Twitter was like, because I remember it just started

when I broke into the housewives as well. And Twitter used to tell us everything, exactly what they thought, exactly how they felt. So they weren't telling you at the time when it was coming on, like what? Well, Taylor and I weren't really looking because we were working, right? Right. So we were just filming the show. And it wasn't until we went to New York Fashion Week to film it, I filmed the next season. We were like, oh my god, this is wild. Like, it was crazy. It was, it was, we were like, a lot of people watch this show. Um, so yes, so that was, that's basically, yeah, how I got my start and got introduced

to the wonderful world of bravo and then got to do all those, um, summer by bravo commercials when we all come together. Yes, I think that's the first time I met you. I think it was one of those pictures of you and me. Yeah, I think that's the first time I met you. I think was one of those. I have a picture of you and me. Yeah, I'm going to I'll send it to you. Send that to me. I have a picture of you and me together.

You're in like a melon-colored mini dress. Oh, that's it. I know which problem. You know which one that was. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's so exciting to meet you. I'm like, it's Melissa Gorgas. Oh my God. Well, let me just tell you just on that note.

I have, you know, obviously stylist friends that you're in to be where you're at right now, to be honest to, they're all just trying to, you know, grab onto things, trying to work with smaller magazines, trying to make their way up. When I say your name, they literally shake. Like you are so well light in the world and you're just what you do, how you broke into it. You truly showed the steps. Do you know what I'm saying? It wasn't like we just met you and you were this huge stylist. We kind of watched you grow bigger and bigger and bigger. And I think that's why everyone loves you so much.

And everyone in that world and in the stylist world looks up to you. They truly do. So let me be one. That's so nice. They when I told a couple of them that I was talking to you today, the questions that I had. I have questions for you. We'll get into that. Oh, good. They really they have some questions for you. But you really are. I mean, when did you know that, you know, and you broke out and I know that you kind of broke away from Rachel's though and all of that. Who was your first celebrity that you were like, wow, I'm styling her on my own and like, this is big for me. When did you know that you were hitting it big?

I think, you know, I once when I left Rachel, there were three months actually two and a half months where I was like what am I doing? I had no idea how to start a business. I remember I was staying with my best friend in New York and I woke up shortly after I had left. We were I was staying with her and I was like what do I do? Like not what happens. Like I didn't have an agent, I didn't have anything set up. So the big moment though to answer your question was, I got a call from Josie who is an amazing editor-styleist. Like, somebody I really looked up to also from Canada. And he reached out to me and was like,

Jessica Alva is looking for a new stylist and I pitched your name. Would you be interested? And I was like, oh my god, this would be insane. Definitely. So he Jessica and I got on the phone and we chit-chatting and she was kind of my first big. That was I did a press tour with her. She was in the fockers at the time and wanted to change her look. And we just hit it off and worked together for, I think, almost three years and it was amazing. She was so lovely to take on somebody who, you know, I didn't have a ton of my experience on my own.

And she, we had so much fun together. Just like so much fashion. It was incredible. And she's just such a natural beauty. And she, we had so much fun together. Just like so much fashion, it was incredible. And she's just such a natural beauty. And she's sweet. I like her. And she loves clothes. She does.

Oh, that's cool. She also has a rock and tic-tac. She's tic-tac-er as well. I see her and her daughter are always on tic-tac. But that's awesome. So that's how you knew, like, wow, like I'm gonna transition over here. And this was like your first big job, so to speak.

Wow. I felt like it was happening at that point. And then things started to roll along a little bit more, but it's a really tough industry. It's really tough. Even it's super competitive. There are a lot more people now. I'm super lucky that I have such great clients that I work with currently and it's tough, you know, all work is tough.

You know, people, I think sometimes people put like people who are in the public eye on, you know, pedestals and stuff, but I think, you know, everybody who's in any kind of job trying to like make it, some of us are doing it publicly and you know, some of us are not, but you know, building your career, no matter what area you're in is hard, it's hard. And it, and it, you know what it's like. It's very, it's a, it's a step, yes, yes, it's not easy breaking into any, any like world over here,

especially when you're doing it in public as it is today. And we have the Instagrams. We have everybody's watching, critiquing, but it's not easy. But you definitely, I mean, so you got started with Jessica Alba. Give me some more names, give me some more big names that you've styled. style. I've worked with Jessica Alba, Christina Ritchie, Numi Rapace. I currently work with Demi Moore, Kaylee Kuoko, Rashida Jones, Natalia Dyer, Jenna Dewan, Sarah Farrell, and Maraud Tobia. Yeah, Ruby Rose. It's been incredible know, it's been incredible. And there's definitely still people on the bucket list, but I love who I got to work with. They're so fun and wonderful

and we have such a good time together. Well, that's amazing. And also you're working with E, a lot of the times you're on the red carpets, you're critiquing as well, right? So there's times where it's almost like the fashion police, right? You still do, did you do the fashion police? I did, I did it for three years after Joan died, Rest in Peace

Joan. And yeah, we, I did it with Kelly, I did it with Neenie, and Juliana and I were on the panel for the entire time together. Right. So is there ever times when you're there and you're like, I need to just say that this outfit or this dress looked horrible, but you're ever stressed out to just say it or like, you know what, I mean, because you do have to people, you're in Hollywood, you're in that world, you're on carpets. Do you ever have like a feeling of, oh, this looks so bad on her, but I just don't want to say it? You know, I think the thing that I think is kind of unique is that my experience or my opinion comes from a full 360 understanding of what goes into a red carpet look. So whether or not I think it's kind of my cup of tea

is doesn't mean that it's bad. Do you know what I mean? So I think I always tried to kind of stay in the lane of not only not wanting to kind of make the person who's wearing the gown feel bad, but also knowing that like, I also know the hair make up and styling teams that like work on these things.

Right. And I know how much work it is. So I always kind of tried to mix like, you know, a positive with, you know, an honest critique, but never really kind of making anybody feel bad because I've had people say things about my work. And I'm like, whoa, that's so aggressive. You know what I mean? I'm like, it's just a so aggressive. You know what I mean?

I'm like, it's just a dress. It's fine if you don't like it, but like, Jill. Because you know how it feels. You know how it feels. Yes. Exactly. Well, have you ever put anyone on the carpet and said like, oh, she didn't wear that well?

Or that was, I don't know what I was thinking there. Like, why did I pick that? I think sometimes you look at the photo and you're like, it's never usually the person, it's more of the gown or the look didn't photograph the way that you thought it would. You know, because yeah, there are different factors and when, you know, we take a lot of photos inside and during the fittings to make sure it's going to look

and we do multiple fittings, but then there are sometimes where you're like, that didn't come off exactly the way that I pictured it in my brain. But for the most part, I think, you know, that's why you have fittings and multiple fittings and why you're, you know, definitely honest when people are kind of going in a direction where you're like, I think we might need to have like a real conversation about this. Right. You might love it now, but will you love it when you're in front of like a wall of 200 photographers? Exactly. You have to be honest. I mean, you have to be, I feel this just in every day life, just with, you know, girlfriends and just you have to be honest. You have to tell them

when something doesn't look good. I feel like that's a thing with husbands and wives too, like, you know, the wives will get dressed and the husband's dying to be like, oh my god. But like, do you say it? Or do you not say it? Well, Gary's been, I have to say, I, you know, I run the gamut between like being in sweats a lot to coming downstairs, like basically covered in Swarovski crystals. And he's like, whoa, like, what, what, where, what are you doing? What is happening? Why, you know, or I'll show him like options that I'm thinking of wearing on the carpet and he'll be like, you cannot wear that because I also, how's his style? Is he like up to date? Does he know what he's doing? Is he like pretty stylish? Well, he's, I have to say, I do have to give credit where credits do,

because when we met in Meaconos, over 20 years ago, we've been together for 20 plus years. And when I met him, I will say, I loved fashion, but I won't say my choices were refined. And he, like I was very much like, I one shirt I actually had that I wore out when we first met was a Johnny Versace see through in the front and then it was like a panel of fabric in the back and

like a cap sleeve like they were kind of doing in the 90 Yes. Yes. So Gary has a very, very nice sense of style. All through the pandemic, he always was, I would Instagram him because even when we were like in the first wave of quarantine, like he was in a button down and jeans every single day. Like no, no sweatsuits, no pajamas during the day, nothing. Like pajamas come on. But it's more uncomfortable than a button down now for like, or jeans when you're like, those both of those, I'm like swarming even like thinking of the two of those.

I want them off the second I walk in the door. He turns it off out every day. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We're all busy and confined to an excuse to not work out. Kick things off with a resolution you can keep. It's not about crazy workouts every day. It's about making the most of the time you have. And that is working out with beach body.

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scrunchy. I don't forget with this wigwams, were they wigwams? Remember, but then even before that there was the, I think they are wigwams maybe. But even before that was like the lacy, the lacy socks. Remember those ones from the 80s. Oh my God. Yes. But everything's coming back right now. Right. I mean, are you okay with this?

Is that we like this? Oh my God. I love it. I love it so much. Okay. Because I feel like I'm finally, I'm finally at the age where things are coming back that I was like old enough to kind of like I was in my teens in the 90s and it was like such a you know I just feel like they're I just Gary and I just finished yellow jackets last night.

The show with Juliet. I need to watch this everyone is all so fun it's so good. Yeah part of it takes place in the 90s and part of it takes place now and the soundtrack will blow your mind. Like you'll be like, oh my God, that's like Liz fair or like belly and like all of these like crazy like it's kind of fun to watch people reliving a time that, you know, I was really fun. I love it. I love it, because that's where I grew up. That was like, you know, my era, but also, I mean, what about all the platform boots that are back again? Like all the big, thick, bottomed boots,

the Doc Martins are back. Right? I love seeing this everywhere. I feel like for Christmas, I bought my daughter like 10 different variations of the big chunky boots. You know, the platforms and they're heavy. I bought Doc Martins. I'm like, I can't believe I just bought a pair of Doc Martins.

Like I bought myself three pairs. I have to say I had them in white. I needed them in black. I need the combat. But that's all back. Yeah. Totally. All of that.

I used to go to the Goodwill and buy all my clothes because I was super into grunge at the time when it was, you know, Nirvana and like, all of those. Nirvana smells like teen spirit. Totally. And I was going to Lola Paloza and like, wearing my like flannels and my jeans and my purple dock Martens and I was all like, emo and died my hair black and all of that stuff.

So I love it. I think it was like such a special fun time and it also makes me believe. I'm like hoping that's, you know, there are young people watching yellow jackets that will go back and watch Christina Ricci's movies because they're so iconic. Like she was from some of the best movies ever. Same with Juliet Lewis is like a national treasure. because they're so iconic. Like she was from some of the best movies ever. Same with Juliet Lewis is like a national treasure. Like I remember going sneaking into the movie theater

and seeing natural born killers, did you ever see that with Woody Harrelson? Like that was like the moment. And that soundtrack was the moment. Everybody was. It was the good movies in the world, right? This is what people always say. I mean, that one was like really violent, but like it was good. It was the good movies in the world, right? This is what people always say. I mean, not what was really violent,

but like it was good. It was. Agreed. Agreed. And like reality bites. Remember reality bites. Reality bites. Yes.

I remember all of this. This is so crazy. So good. You just think of all this. All right. And then like, let me ask you this, there's also like the jeans thing going on. Like am I am I still allowed to wear the high-waisted gene?

That's like a skinny gene because a lot of my followers want me to talk to you about genes. And the fact that, you know, they're back, the skinny genes are kind of going out again. And then the wider leg that doesn't flatter a girl like me because I'm a little, you know, I'm lean, but I'm not super tall, you know? So I'm flattered by the high waisted

gene with the skinny bottom and it's like making my leg look long. Now all these genes are back in where they're cutting us in half and they're wide and they're bootlegged and why why do they do this to us? Well, I think it depends on the shoe you're gonna wear it with. So if you're gonna do like a I think the wider leg genes are better for a chunkier shoe. So if you're gonna do like a, I think the wider leg genes are better for a chunkier shoe. So if you're doing that trend, and you're getting your height that way, correct. So like I've been seeing a lot of my clients

are now going towards that kind of, they're still a little high-waisted, but they're definitely a lot wider in the leg. I wouldn't get rid of, I mean, the genes that work on you, I don't wear skinny jeans because my legs are too, I don't look, I look like I'm wearing like, I don't, they don't just don't look like the super skinny's are not cute on me. Jo, either when Jo puts those on, I'm like, you look like you have legs on, take them off.

Like you don't have, you need to go squat, you need to like pump up that leg if you're gonna wear that skinny jean, Like legs are not your thing. Go take those things up. Like, like, like, an ass baby. I do not want that like flat. No things. We want juicy booty. Yeah.

So, yeah. So I think it depends on your shoe. And I think like, you know, I recently bought a pair of, they literally look like a pair of jeans that like the Backstreet Boys wore and the I wanted that way video. they're like they're like baggy. Yeah, little.

I actually was where they were the last photo I posted on my Instagram. They're like a light blue kind of wide leg. They're very, very 90s looking. Boy, but I yeah, but I think it's fun to just like dip your toe in, right? Like get like a more like get a Zara, get something that's like $40, $50, try it out. But I think the wide leg is, it's a lot better with a, a chunkier shoe. What about half shirts? So I'm not going to name any names, but you know, there's girls on what is age

appropriate? Because obviously everyone's into like, there's a lot of half shirts going on, half sweaters, they're showing our midsection, including myself. So I'm asking you, is style have to be age appropriate? Do you believe in that?

Is there a, if your body can carry it and you look good, is it okay to wear it at any age? Or do we have to say like, wow, I still look really good in this little sweater and I'm showing you my, you know, the midsection here, but is there a point where you're not allowed to do that anymore for age purposes? I think like, you know, massive round of applause for anybody who's like super comfortable with their body. I think that that's like, it's really incredible. I think body positivity is a really great thing. I think that that's like, it really incredible. I think body positivity is a really great thing.

I think, you know, if you feel comfortable and you feel beautiful in what you're wearing, then go for it. I would never, I wouldn't push somebody into wearing it if they didn't feel comfortable. Do you know what I mean? Like, if your thing is you feel like you look amazing in a crop top and bike shorts and a pair of, you know,

slides going to grab yourself a coffee. I want to do that. you feel like you look amazing in a crop top and bike shorts and a pair of, you know, slides going to grab yourself a coffee. I want to do that. Am I allowed to do? I'm asking your permission. Absolutely allowed to do it. I'm giving you full permission to do it. Okay. Well, I'll say Brad said I could.

That's what's going to happen is because one day, you know, we're going to wake up or we're going to get to an age where it's actually like that, you know, what I would win now. Impossible. Yeah, but also we get to a point, I think, and I'm experiencing this right now where I'm kind of going like, okay, I could wear that in like my early 30s and be totally fine with it. But it's like a 44 and a half year old man.

I'm like, I don't know, maybe that's like not. And it's not that I'm like, you know, censoring myself because I wear a lot of crazy shit and I don't really care. But there's, I think as we get older too, it's like if you are like in your 60s or 70s and you want to wear a crop top, oh my god, like literally go for it. And I hope that you feel comfortable now.

60 or 70, I really hope I'm there with you. Got it. Okay. Well, we'll I really hope I'm there with you. Got it. Okay. Well, we'll see. I'm not there yet either. No, you're good. You have so much time to be like cutting things out of what you should and shouldn't. Yeah.

I'm not ready yet. And I just want to make sure you say it's okay. If I see on your Instagram or on the show this year or in your press or anything that you are like holding back, I'm going to like call you out. Okay. I love that. Please do. Have fun. Oh my god, you guys, we've been through like so much the past two years, like, have fun. Like wear the dress, wear the heels, curl the hair, put on the lip, put on the lashes, put on the sparkles, like whatever you got to do to make yourself feel good, whatever floats your boat. If you want to do a chunky shoe, you want to do a super baggy wide leg gene and a crop top, like go for it. Go for it. I always say fashion is fun,

right? That's where we can express ourselves. Fashion is fun. I love it. This is when one more question when it comes to fashion and do's and don'ts bathing suits nowadays, okay? Can I just tell you and do's and don'ts bathing suits nowadays. Okay, can I just tell you basically everything's a G string? I mean, basically it's a G string. It's very... We saw her girls trip, Melissa. Oh my God, was that? Well, Ramona, you saw when I was like,

that her ass hole. Yeah, Ramona would bust out on the girls trip with Litz Hurley, like a G string on and then talk about how I don't wanna talk about sex. I don't like to talk about my love. Like, I'm like, you're wearing a G string with N then talk about how I will I don't want to talk about sex I don't like to talk about my love like I'm like you're wearing a G string with nipple covers girlfriend. We're good. We can talk about it So great. You love that trip. Was that so funny? I love it so much to watch it all together. It was so good. Also, I've kind of liked where everybody ended up together Like at the end of it. I liked that it wasn't a full on, you know, screen fast.

That was like, I think breaking that fourth wall was really interesting as well to hear the other housewives from the other franchises talk about their experiences and this kind of bond that is created when you're on one of those shows and you guys are kind of the only ones that understand like what it's like. So I felt like there was something kind of nice in that obviously I loved all the drama as well.

But I really, we loved that show, it was so good. I always say that that show was like a love letter to the fans. It really was, like what everyone is, I got nervous at first because I was like, Oh, does this always are we saying goodbye here? We're mixing it all up. Like I thought that would be the beginning of the end. But it really wasn't. I think it's the beginning of peacock, which I saw

you at that peacock event. That was so fun. You were the host. It was. Of our girls trip, like what was at the premiere, you were the host of the premiere out in Hollywood out there. That was my dream come true. Dream come true. Let me ask you this, Doreet or Erica, when it comes to style, which which which one would you style, which one is your, I feel like they have two totally different, but that's a very, you know, a lot of people say that because they're both very fashion forward. They both take a lot of chances, right?

But I feel one is more of the labels. Yeah. And right? Is that fair to say? So Doreet, okay, so Doreet and Erica, Doreet is for me like a full look girl. Like Doreet does, if Doreet's wearing Versace, or Lulee,

she's in head to toe Versace. All the glam, everything, like she, Doreet does, if Doreet's wearing Versace or Lulee, she's in head to toe Versace. It's all the glam everything. It's like she, Doreet looks like she stepped out of a campaign. Correct. Like an ad campaign, which we also love. And Erica looks like she stepped out of the pages of like a fashion editorial. So it's like a little bit more of a grab bag.

So it could be like a mosquito dress with like an Alexander Votier shoe and then like a Madonna ponytail from like blonde ambition from 1990. It's exactly it. Like a grab bag. It's like all over the place where to read literally we'll have the Versace clip

in her hair and then it will match the one on her toe and you can just like buy the whole outfit. You can just buy the whole outfit at the side. The sales people must be so happy when she comes in because they're like she's going to buy the scarf, the brooch, the bomber, the bag, the bag, the body shoes. The sunglasses. It's going to be head to toe. Exactly. It's actually really funny and I always need to ask you that because I feel like that's a question. Like the Beverly Hills girls, I feel like they're so lucky. First of all, they're out there.

They get to like, you know, they, they deal with a lot of great, like hair and makeup, peel people, a lot of great stylists. So they have access to like everyone out there and they work with a lot of people, let alone they have tons of money to just spend on all of this stuff. So right. So good for them. But is there any housewives franchise that you kind of look at? And you're like, oh, they need a stylist, like,

and feel free to say Jersey. Like they need someone to come in and like revamp this whole look that everyone does. Well, I was, I, I love the housewives assault lake city, but I was, the reunion looks were very questionable. And it was like all over TikTok, my whole TikTok feed, like one morning I was like, oh my God, people are really upset about this. But it was the first time that,

like I also, usually, I don't know if they picked like a very good, you know, they usually say like, where are I? Where are all blush tones? Where are all whatever. It's all a tone phrase. Yeah. But I was like, where are all white? Where are all bush tones? Where are all whatever? It's all a tone, yeah. But I was like, what did they tell them to wear? Cause it was like, Jen Shaw was in like purple feathers and then like Whitney was in like one velvet glove,

like one shoulder thing. I was like, it was all over. But wait, can I say you didn't think that the last, I thought that and I never say this about Beverly Hills, but I thought the last Beverly Hills reunion where it was very Erica Heavy, that reunion. I thought they were all so, I was like, what's happening here? I didn't like the look of everyone together. Kyle with the pins.

And the gloves and Erica had the little pink baby doll dress. Yeah, it was no one to read like, funnel wedding, right? She was getting married that day. No, I'm no one to read like phone or wedding, right? She was getting married that day. No, I'm serious. Like I was like, wait a second. There was no one who came out and said, this is the look ladies are like we're going with the

golds or we're going with like the earth. Don't like what I was like, what's happening? Maybe they're giving passes because they're just trying to get people in person. They're just like, where whatever you want to wear, just show up. Just show up. I don't care what your hair makeup looks like. Just get to in person. I agree. As a COVID, they're just like, where whatever you want to wear, just show up. Just show up. I don't care what your hair makeup looks like. Just get to the couch.

Especially on those two shows, because there's so much drama. They just want them to get to the couch. Exactly. Okay, let's take a quick break. Whether you're struggling with grief, relationships, or stress, or you're just having trouble sleeping or meeting goals, online therapy might be for you. Better help is a secure online therapy that offers video, phone, and even live chat sessions with a licensed professional therapist.

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good. Thank you. Yeah. I'm very hands on with my glam peeps. Are you a big J-Lo person? Like you love J-Lo? You know what? I have that skin tone where I have a little bit of the, so I do love her.

Yes. 100% clear. You're glam to me is always like, it's like J-Lo quality. Like it's like, Gary and I all last season. There was, I think it was last season. There was one look of, I think you were in like silver or something sparkly and you kind of had like a little bit of like a smoky eye in the air. Yes, and then every time you came on screen,

we were like, she is, I mean, she is tart. Like Melissa is looking synatched. She is looking glowy. She looks good. She phone working. I have the cheekbones. I'm very big on the cheekbones. When they, when they start putting my makeup on, I'm like, do we, easy? Because I always say this and you can probably agree. And this goes, we're talking about housewives because we're in this world, right? But the too much makeup as we get a little older,

it just makes us look older. I'm more into the do we give me the bronzy, make me a cheekbone always. But I want a nude lip, I want a nice little lash, but nothing crazy. I can't stand the drag lashes where they're like spiders are coming at. You can't even concentrate. You're having a conversation with these ladies and I'm like,

all I see is your eyelashes and I want to pull them off for like nine hours. I can pull each and every one of them off. Yeah. A lot. So I think I've learned and I think my glam team, I wouldn't say they would call me bitchy, but I would say that I'm definitely not the girl who sits in the glam chair and says like do what you want. Do what you want. Like yeah, never. Why ever most of the time there's a there's a little mirror and I'm the most annoying, but I mean, they all love me. But I really like tell them show them direct them as to

like what I want. So well, it shows it looks good. Oh, thank you. And I have very talented hair and makeup people. So really good. Kudos to all of them. But thank you. Whenever there's like a compliment for me, I'm very excited. Oh, you look great, Melissa.

But I also, I have to know what happened at that dinner the other. I think it was last night. Did you guys go for Sunday dinner? Yes, we did. Oh, okay. Were you filming? No, we guys just go there in real life. Wait, you don't think that to reason I are actual wheel sister and law. Like we just

fake this for reality. No, I think you do. But like it's so like it feels so charged. It feels so charged when we watch it on the show that there's just like so much stuff there that when I see you guys like Actually, you know seeing you guys together at the premiere party as well like I That was the first time I met Teresa. She was super sweet. I mean she's not my sister-in-law, but she was super sweet Just yeah, she would be when she meets someone and very and very lovely and like um just yeah she would be when she meets someone and very and very lovely and like

Louis seems super nice they seem super in love i i think Teresa is a great mom i think she's a really really good mom like she is just from what i've seen on the show and also just from she felt like very mothering to me like she was she was very very sweet i was so happy to meet her but it's not that i don't think you guys are real sisters. It's I feel like to have the whole life on the show, which feels very, very super charged. And it feels like there's issues from like 10 seasons ago that aren't resolved. That when I see you guys all together, it makes me really happy because it also, I know you guys are real people, but I also think, I do think also family is very important. And so it's nice to see that I feel like you are also able

to set that stuff aside so that your kids and also Joe and Teresa can have like family time together. Of course, of course, listen, I think people, I think we confuse people a lot to be honest. And the truth is, if I'm being totally honest with you, there is a lot more tension when the cameras are up and we're in the room. Not, I don't want to, not from me, so to speak, but I do feel that Teresa feels sometimes, you know, and this is like the oldest running thing. But like, you know, she was here first, it was like her thing. And so sometimes when we're filming and we're

on set, it does feel and it feels like there's more tension there just because after 11 years of still being here, I sometimes think she still can't believe that like we're on this show together. You know, I just, I like, I just think like sometimes she's like, I can't believe it. And I'm just like, well, it's been, I think we're going on 12 years now of this. So it's been a really long time. So I mean, the truth is, listen, it's never been really, really easy. We've always had bumps in the road way before the real housewives of New Jersey. And we've said that publicly before. I feel like there was a lot of tension back and forth. She was also going through a lot in life that she would never talk about. She would always kind of hold it back and not talk about it. So it was always like smoking mirrors when it comes to like,

I'm happy in this and that. And I think it was like, you know, it probably got a little competitive or definitely got a little competitive somewhere along the line. I don't know where. It's not truly where I come from. I'm extremely close with my family, with my sisters. Like, we are the type that, if I'm on something, I would pull you on purposely.

We lift each other up. We, so it was a little different world for me, the competitive world that, that I kind of married into, to be honest. And it was a little different world for me, the competitive world that I kind of married into, to be honest. And it was like a back and forth, but I feel like we've really come into our groove now with our kids are older, Gia, Antonia, Gino, Melania, like love each other. And I'm not just saying that. And like they truly want to see each other.

They love each other. They're excited to see each other. Like there's no boys in that family. My two boys are like the boys that come in. Like the cute little handsome boys that are talking about their football and their wrestling. And like, Gia Gabriella, their eyes like light up when the boys walk in a row because they want to see them.

They want to hang out with them. You know what I mean? So we are like, yeah, last night, Gia turned 21 recently, which I cannot believe. I mean, to think about that is crazy. But Gia turned 21 and she was away. She went to go see her dad and then she was in Miami. So we didn't have dinner. We didn't have cake for her yet. So we did that yesterday. So it was just um, Louis mother and Louis sister and then me and Joe and all our kids. We just had a regular. Is that a regular?

It's a plant made in Lasagna. No, so Louis made eggplant parm. Oh, it looked good. Yeah, it was good. Theresa made pasta and we ate eggplant parm and we just hung out like a normal, normal Sunday, but I think it does. Some people do think they're like confused, you know, if we're just, we are true family. We were together for Christmas Eve, we're, you know, we're family.

Do we have our ups and downs? Yes. But I think that it's real, it's honest. And from what I see and what I hear out there in the world, it's, it's a real thing. People do struggle with in-laws, whether it be their mother-in-law, whether it be their sister-in-law, whatever it may be. And, you know, we were brave enough to kind of put it out there, and we're very honest with the fact that, you know, I feel like we're good right now. I mean, you will see this new season's about to

explode on February 1st of the Real Housewives of New Jersey. And it's, there's a lot of tension there because, you know, Teresa argues with some of the girls that I'm friends with. So I always get put in that position of, Teresa's my family, you're my girlfriend, and I get put in that position because I do kinda have to say who I think is right and who I think is wrong, and I can't sit there and just pussy foot around everything. I need to be honest.

And sometimes that causes tension, as you can imagine. So it's hard, and then there's times where it's like, you know, you better say, you know, you better, you better just agree with me, but that's not, I can't do that all the time. I have to say what I think is right, you know, but I never go against my family. I don't. I never did. I, unless it's like a fight between her and I, or like the two Joes, I think the two Joes used to make it was crazy between, you know, Joe, Judy and Joe Gorgon.

And that used to cause a lot of tension between Joe and Louie got along. They do. They do. They were like in a corner last night, like having a drink, talking for over an hour without us. So they do, they do get along, which is great. I'm happy for her. Me too. She's been through it. Like, yes, Reese has been through it. That's like an understatement. Yes. It's like the never ending. And

you know, you'll see on this season a lot of people, like there's some girls on our show that are questioning Louie. And so that obviously drives her crazy, as you can imagine. And so that's what's coming up on the real housewives world. But yeah, we really just went to dinner. I love that you're like, wait, what happened yesterday? I know, I was like, I have to ask what's about this? Have to know. No, like, I think that's so funny, because people, I think

people get baffled sometimes when they just see us just like being us and having dinner and having the kids together. Yeah, because we want you to get along. We don't want you guys to, we don't want you guys to be, I mean, it's fun to watch on TV as like a TV show, but we also know that these are like, I know that these are real lives and, you know, people don't want to be like fighting with their family. But so it always makes me happy when I see it. Gary's also Italian. So I know how important it is. Yeah, it's genetic. Like it's like, it's calls his parents every Sunday at between like, you know, 10 and 12. Where did they live? They live in Queens. Okay.

Yeah. It's far from them. Yeah. But when we're there, like we do the, you know, Sunday dinner at like two or three, we do the whole, you know, it's very Italian. Of course you do. Of course, yeah, you have to like two, three o'clock. That's the time we went to trees this yesterday. It was time to eat pasta. It's like, that's what you do on Sunday. And I'm hoping a bottle of wine. What are we doing? We have Sunday roast. We don't like, why are we eating it too? Oh, no.

We were like five or six. He's like, Oh, no, this is like, no, no, no. Sundays we as Italians, we eat like two, three o''s like, oh, no, this is like, this is it. No, no, no. Sundays we as Italians, we eat like two, three a cloud. There's cheese everywhere when you first get there. This sausage everywhere. There's bread cut everywhere. It's just, it's just how it goes.

And then there's always like one extra thing. So if there's like a chicken parm after, there's an eggplant parm. So good. I mean, we eat well. That's so lucky you married an Italian. I am. Trust me. How is Gary speaking of Gary? He's well. That's so you're so lucky you married an Italian. I am. Trust me.

I was Gary speaking of Gary. He's great. He's wonderful. He's gearing up because his next book is coming out in April. He's doing really really well. Yeah, he's awesome. All right, that's awesome. Let's take a quick break.

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When you open up the shower curtain. How amazing was he? How all his chest, his chest. Oh, his chest. I also met his daughter like years later and told her this story and she was very gracious. I even died. That's the best answer I've had yet. I have to be honest. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm and no, I just believe it when I say that you don't need me. Yes, love that one. Like hang out together every day. We could we would have fun. Yes. Okay. What's

your biggest regret ever? Biggest regret. Biggest regret is my biggest regret would be my inner saboteur. Does that make sense? No, explain. Like the voice in my head that would be my inner saboteur. Does that make sense? No, explain. Like the voice in my head, that would be my biggest regret. Got you. Yes. Okay, that's fair. I like that.

What's the best decision you've ever made? Moving to LA to be with my husband. Where did you move from? I don't think I know that Toronto outside of Toronto. Yeah. Okay. All right, that's fair. What's your biggest pet peeve? Which drives you crazy? My biggest, I'm going to say my biggest pet peeve is

people not picking up their dog poop. Okay. Fair. That's like rude. The worst. It tries me nuts. Tell me about the worst date you have ever been on where you were like, holy shit, this is the worst. Well, here's a fun fact. I haven't done a lot of dating. To be honest. No, I, so I was in a two and a half year relationship before I met Gary and I was like single for like two and a half months before I met him and I was like single for like two and a half months

before I met him and I've been locked down for like 20 years. So I kind of you're just like me, you're such a good boy. Yeah, I just like, I mean, I guess I went out on some days, but none of them are memorable enough to be that bad. Right. You don't have me like bad day experiences. No, not really. That is so crazy. Yeah, I've been with Joseph. I'm 24. So like, how many bad dates could I have had? I'm 23. I was 23 when I met Gary. So my God, that's crazy. And we had great dates. I'm believe it. But okay. What was the first concert you ever went to? First concert I ever went to was the Michael Jackson victory tour where he was traveling with the Jackson five.

Wow, that's a good one. It was beyond. Everyone's telling me like boy bands, that's amazing. No, the first half was, uh, him with his brothers. And then the second half was just him doing all the thriller stuff. And just moving his body. I still remember him. There was one one one thing where he like this.

He was like laying on in this box thing and they put a blanket over it and then they took the blanket or the sheet away and then he was like back in the like far corner of the theater up the stage and I was just like like 11 years old and my mind was like blown. You're like how did that just happen? How did that happen? or up the stage and I was just like 11 years old and my mind was like blown. You're like, how did that just happen? How did that happen? Oh, amazing. Okay, tell me something about you that would surprise us.

Like, what do we not know? Give me like a surprise about you. Something about me that you wouldn't know is that I wake up in the middle of the night most nights. To pay. No, I just like, I have this thing where I wake up two hours after I go to bed and I'm like, why do I wake? And then I have to go like, try to get back to sleep. You know, that happens to me when I, when I, if I drink.

So if I'm drinking, I feel like, and then I go to sleep, even if I just have like a couple glasses of wine at dinner, no matter what, I'm up at 3 a.m. for some reason, and it takes me like an hour to go back. The pits. I'm now decided I'm not drinking any liquids after 8 p.m. So that and see if that works. Are you a drinker? Do you drink? No, I've been sober for 20 years.

Oh, okay. I'm sober Sally. Okay, so that's not that. Yeah, I also didn't, I mean, when I was drinking, I didn't wake up, but I was still awake at three, Melissa. Yeah. Because you didn't go to sleep, yeah. As I didn't go to sleep, girl.

Yeah, you got me. Those were the days, honey. Yes, 90, like six to 99. Yeah. Got it. OK. Tell me your first job. My first job was working in the candy bar of candy bar, the candy store of my grandparents restaurant. Oh, your grandparents had a restaurant? Yeah, so my family, my grandparents owned a, they called it a recreation park. It was like a trailer park on the lake that we grew up on. So people would buy like put their boats there and have like trailers there. And then there was like a dance hall, a boat center and then the restaurant. I worked in the restaurant for I started off as a actually I started off as a dishwasher. I graduated to the candy counter and then I finally became a server. Wow.

Mm hmm. You're always just elevating yourself. Wait, what candy would you steal? What's your favorite candy? Fundip. Do you remember Fundip? You stick the stick in. Yeah, that's exact. That's what you like. You want to start it early. That's exactly what you like. You want to start it. I started early. You got what's your favorite late night snack? Like if you're on the couch watching Yellowstone, is that what you're watching?

A yellow jacket. Yellow jacket. Okay. All right. We watch one of those yellows that's hot right now. Yeah. What are you eating? It's ice cream.

I ordered. Okay. I did three pints last. I didn't eat three pints. I ordered three pints last night. What do you mean ordered? Order ice cream. I ordered three pints last. I didn't eat three pints. I ordered three pints last night. What do you mean ordered? Order ice cream. Postmates. Really? Yeah, girl. Oh my god. What do I want? Do you guys not have that where you are? What is it called? Postmates. It's like a food delivery service, like a caviar, a door dash. I have a door dash. Yeah, instant cart. Yeah, it's like that. So at like at like seven last night,

I wanted ice cream. So I ordered it from salt and straw in West Hollywood. And it was that my house like 30 minutes later. Unbelievable. I don't utilize that enough, which I shouldn't because and I'll just be eating shit all day. They'll be at Wendy's. I love a chili at the Wendy's. Oh, yes, randomly getting a Wendy's chili. Do it. Do it. I never do that. Yeah, it's so fun. Good. Um, outside of yellow jackets, what's your favorite show right now?

Like what are you watching? Like to binge watch. What do you watch? Well, just, well, just watching is euphoria. I'm obsessed with it with what? Say that again. Euphoria. Oh, euphoria.

Yes. Oh, my God. Everyone loves. Um, if I had a teenager, so I would be with it. With what? Say that again. Euphoria. Oh, euphoria. Yes. Oh, my God. Everyone loves. If I had teenagers, so I would be freaking out. I haven't watched it yet. Do I need to watch this? I wouldn't Melissa. Really?

I don't think you want to know what's happening out there. Ooh, I got a 16 year old girl. No, girl. No, stay away. Stay away. Okay. All right. Now you make me want to watch this. But okay. Have you ever watched insecure? Is a ratio? No. Oh, so good. It's really the series finished a few weeks ago. It's six seasons. It's amazing. Okay, so I need to I'm looking for TV things. It's cold. It's dark here. Like I'm taking all of your recommendations. That's a really good one. Okay, anything else?

That's a really good one. Okay, anything else? Um, I also like, I love all the narcos. Like I love all the, do you ever watch those? Like narcos, narcos, Mexico, all about all the cartels and stuff. It's so good. Joe, that's the first thing Joe will put on constantly. Yes. All the time, all the time.

Um, okay, and I always, always end up with how do you end with, rather? How do you treat yourself? How do you treat yourself? Like, what does Brad do if it's like a day about Brad, you're putting to your phone down, like, it's about you today. What do you do? And I'm putting my phone down. Well, you don't have to put the phone down.

If it, if that's how you treat yourself. But honestly, like, I bake. Really? Yeah, that's what I do to like, that really gets me in like a state of total, like calm, like even more so than a massage will. Like I guess so in the zone of like making something, I find it very therapeutic.

Like on a yesterday morning, I made peanut butter, banana, chip, walnut muffins. They're gluten free ones that I make. I make muffins like almost like a couple of times a week because Gary likes something with his tea in the morning. So I just wake up and like make muffins and stuff. That's also an unknown fact. People might not know about me,

but I like bake stuff all the time. I had no idea. I would never, I would never have thought. But that sounds amazing. I'm a banana peanut butter. That's like Joe would go crazy for those. I'm going to need that recipe. Oh, yeah.

Where do you get these recipes? We're in time. Pinterest. Okay. Pinterest. Good old Pinterest. Good old Pinterest. I'm searching it like crazy.

I'm building a house right now. I'm on Pinterest every day. I'm on. Yeah, we're building, we're building our house. We're in a rental right now. So we sold that big house that everyone's so used to seeing. With the recording studio? Yes. It's gone. It's there. It's there. I don't know who's singing in

the studio. Who's singing on display over there, but it's there. It's there. So where are you moving? Bergen County. It's not far. Frank and Lakes. We're Caroline Manzo and like, you know, we're the original house five. We'll Caroline Manzo ever come back. No, you know, we're the original house. Caroline Manzo ever come back. No, you know, I think no, I think that listen, she's a grandmother now. She's enjoying the baby. She's enjoying. I think she's at a different point of life now, where she wouldn't even want to jump in on like, where we're at with the drama. I love Caroline. She's always welcome for, you know, where I come from. But she, I think she's past that now. She's past the drama. She's, I see her all the time. She's with welcome for you know where I come from but she I think she's passed that now. She's passed the drama. She's I see her all the time. She's with her granddaughter all the time.

Oh, I love her line. I see her on Instagram. I was like she's just she's you know she's a grandma. I think she's good. She's happy. She's content. I don't think she'd want to come back unless they offered her like a ridiculous amount of money. I don't see her doing it. I would offer that to her. You know she had had Gary and I up to her place for dinner. Did she? We went to her house for dinner. Yeah. What did she make? Everything. John and Chrissy Teacon were John John legend and Chrissy Teacon were there

as well. And we all had like a big dinner together. She's had a nice dinner. Yeah, it was wonderful. So good. It was Al being on the increase and all the different. Yeah, so fun. We the best good. It was Al being all that in Chris and all the yeah, yeah, so fun. We the best time. She was wonderful. She is.

She is. She's like, they cook. They own that brown stone. They get food. They're just like, you know, that's them. They're the Italians. It's like two o'clock time to eat, put everything out. Yeah.

Yeah. You get it all out. We all come from the same. We all come from the same egg. Yeah. I love it. Well, anyway, thank you so much for giving me all of this time today. come from the same, we all come from the same egg. Yeah. I love it. Well, anyway, thank you so much for giving me all of this time today. You are amazing.

You continue to be you. You're just like genuine. You really are. You're such a genuine nice guy. Even when I see you at Bravo events, wherever we are, you're just, and you're going to style me next. I'm going to go to the Grammys or something anytime. Have to be the Grammys, but it's got to be something that you need.

Something we'll do. We'll do like a big red carpet look with you. Okay. For sure. or something anytime. I have to be the Grammys, but it's got to be something that you need. Something we'll do, we'll do like a big red carpet look with you. Okay. For sure. Or maybe you should just style me for a reunion. Will you do that for me, please? When you're doing the reunion. I'll touch that.

Is the Bravo guys. Is that the theme yet? No, but I have the date. So the Bravo guys are listening. So I won't say anything out loud, but you know, I'm just saying, feel free to shoot me. And he looks that you feel I would look so hot and let me know the theme. I can't wait. I'm so excited for this season. I adore you. I'm so happy that you know, you're doing great. And you know, you're thriving. You're a

wonderful, wonderful. I'm so happy to know you. It was so great talking to you. You're always so sweet. You're always so kind. You always look so good. Your hair is popping today. Oh, yeah. It's all mine. Melissa. It's all mine. That's a nice head of hair right there. Let me just tell you that. Thank you. Um, anyway, okay, tell Gary. I said hi. I will for sure. And we will [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ OUTRO MUSIC Thank you.