On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Bob Proctor ON: How to Manifest Your Dream Life & the Secret to Breaking Free From Society's Expectations

Episode Date: July 19, 2021

Bob Proctor sits down with Jay Shetty to talk about freeing yourself from societal and cultural control, seeking awareness and learning how to improve your life, and finding the dedication to pursue what you love. Bob Proctor is a New York Times best-selling author of the You Were Born Rich (1984) book. As a speaker, author, consultant, coach, and mentor, he works with business entities and individuals around the world, instilling within them not only the mental foundations of success and the motivation to achieve, but also the actionable strategies that will empower them to grow, improve, and thrive in today’s ever-changing world. What We Discuss with Bob: 00:00 Intro 01:57 The importance of the internet for the last 12 months 03:44 Different paradigms is in control of our lives 07:00 If you want to learn, go to someone who knows more than you do 10:28 Learn by fully understanding what you are reading 16:55 Our paradigm is a multitude of concepts fixed in our subconscious mind 22:44 Staying motivated and enthusiastic in changing the paradigms that control us 27:04 You can only attract to you what vibrates in harmony with you 30:29 The results that you’re seeing tells the truth 35:41 Love comes in when everything is in harmony in all aspects of your life 39:12 Ask yourself: What do you really want in this life? 44:23 The You Were Born Rich book 46:33 Bob on the Fast Five Like this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally! Episode Resources: Proctor Gallagher Institute | Website Proctor Gallagher Institute | YouTube Bob Proctor | Twitter Bob Proctor | Facebook Bob Proctor | Instagram Bob Proctor | LinkedIn Bob Proctor | Amazon Books Achieve success in every area of your life with Jay Shetty’s Genius Community. Join over 10,000 members taking their holistic well-being to the next level today, at https://shetty.cc/OnPurposeGeniusSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If you listen to most conversations, it's obvious the person's not thinking or they would never say what they're saying. Or if you stand back and observe their behavior, they would never do what they're doing if they were thinking. So I think, you know, the greatest problem today is just recognizing that we are being controlled by ideas

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They make a big difference to our podcast. Now, today's guest is someone that I've been excited to speak to you for a long time. You may have heard his incredible videos on YouTube, you may have even done some of his amazing programs. And whether you have or haven't heard of him, I'd love to tell you a bit about him. Today's guest is none other than Bob Proctor. He's the New York Times bestselling author

of you were born rich, an internationally acclaimed speaker and a motivational coach. He's devoted his entire life to helping others reach their goals and realize their full potential. Bob currently offers countless programs to transform individual lives through the Proctor Gallagher Institute. Welcome to the show, Bob Proctor. Bob, thank you so much for doing this.

My pleasure, James James God be here Absolutely, it's wonderful to finally be with you. I've watched your videos for a long time and Come across your work and as I was saying that to you before you you said to me, Joe been around for a long time I've always valued the Insights and wisdom for people have seen there being there done a lot of things What's the biggest lesson that you learned in the last 12 months that maybe you haven't learned in your life? I think I'm becoming more familiar with the importance of the internet over the past 12

months. I sometimes feel like I was guided, Jay, I built a studio. It's actually a small TV station. Now, I say that because I had a couple of people from a TV station in the studio and I said it's sort of like a TV station. They said, no, Bob, it is a TV station. We have multiple cameras here. We have our own edit in. We can broadcast all over the world from here. It's really well put together. And I think the thing I've learned over the past year is that you have to learn how to communicate through different mediums, or you're going to go to business in our business anyway. And we have been exceptionally well set up for this situation that we're all experiencing

in the world today, you know. As a result, we're able to reach a lot of people and help a lot of people. And a lot of people need help today. There's a lot of mental nonsense going on in the minds of masses that they've never faced before. A lot of people need a lot of help. And that's what we're trying to provide. What do you think's changed, Bob,

since when you first started supporting and helping people, and now you continue to do your work? So effectively, how have people's challenges evolved and do you see it as being the root cause being the same or have we drastically changed in the pain we experience? No, I think the root cause is much the same. I think it's the programming, it's the paradigms. Culture is a paradigm. Countries have paradigms, companies have paradigms, and of course, individuals have paradigms. And those paradigms are very deep rooted and they really control us.

And the bizarre part of the whole thing is that we didn't write the code for the program that's controlling our life. Someone else did. And someone that was not very well read at all. We have a program in our sub-conscious mind, much the same as the programs in the computer. And that program in our sub-conscious mind controls our behavior. And for the most part, in 90 some 90 high percent of the cases, the program was written by people who were totally ignorant. That's what they were doing. They had no idea what they were doing. And that is a very difficult thing to change. You

don't just haul it out like you went out of your computer, it really has to be altered and has to be changed. And it takes a respectable understanding to do that. It takes a lot of discipline, which is the probable reason so few people do change very much in their whole life. And it's rather sad because, like as I always believe, where God's highest form of creation, we're all exactly the same. I don't care where you're highest form of creation, we're all exactly the same. I don't care where you're from or how you think you're different. We're really not any different. We're really all the same. The mind operates, first of all, there's only one mind. I think that's where we should probably look. And we're all in the expression

of that mind. And I see mind as a movement, not a thing. And we're an expression of that movement. So I think there's a tremendous educational job has to be done. And the educational institutions that are set up in the world are not doing it. And they've never done it properly. I think what they've done is add to the problem that exists, you know. I was watching a video of you, one of the series you post on your YouTube channel is from the vault where you shared these older videos of you speaking many years back. And in one of them, you were talking about how when you were shared, this wisdom was shared with you that if you didn't like the results, you had to change

what you were doing and who you were, and you said that that starts with self-study. And what you were just speaking about right now, you were just saying that the code and the pattern that we're all following, we didn't even program it ourselves. How does someone start self-study? Because I feel like people are trying to read books and they're watching videos and they're listening to a podcast. What is the real journey of starting self-study? I think there's a lot of people trying to study this and they're going about it the wrong way. I think there's a lot of people writing books that

really don't understand what they're saying. Their understanding is very shallow. I think the secret to understanding how to really get to know ourselves, we have to go to people that have demonstrated by results they really know what they're talking about. Like I always say that 80% of the people that are teaching have never done what they're teaching. And if you haven't done it, I don't think you really understand it. So it's not what you know, it's what do you do. And for years, companies were paying people based on what they thought they knew. It was gone by a degree. And the Dureden indicate they knew anything at all,

and that they gathered information. But I think we have to go by what they do. I was very fortunate when I started to study. The first man that helped me, the first person that helped me was a man. And he's the one that introduced me to this book. This I've got a help with in Elastic now, it's Thinking Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. And he knew what he was talking about. And he said, if you do exactly what I tell you, you can have anything you want. Well, I didn't believe that.

But I believed, he believed it. And he did. And he did know what he was talking about. So I was, I feel I was particularly fortunate in that I met someone like that. And I think probably it was an unconscious thing in the beginning. If I followed anyone from then on, I looked at what they were doing before I started to listen to them. I looked at their results before I started to pay attention to them.

And that has been sort of a guiding principle in my life. I believe if you want to learn something, you have to go to someone that knows more than you do. And that's really what I've done. And I've had five or six people that I followed over the past 60 years. It's been 60 years since I started to study this. I followed that principle,

and I think it's a, it was a good sound principle to follow. Yeah, I think it's a brilliant principle. I can relate to it in my life. Mentors and coaches have been an incredible part of my life. My journey to becoming a monk for three years as I lived as a monk, mostly in India, that decision was made on the basis that I met a monk who I could see it was living by the principles

that he was speaking about. Yeah. So I can relate very strongly to what you're saying. How does someone seek out the teachers, the coaches, the mentors, the books, the guides that they really want in their life? When you read that book, obviously many people have read that book and many people speak highly of that book. But there's a difference between knowing, reading, and then doing, and

knowing, reading, and applying. How did you read it in a way that you started to apply what you were learning? Because you didn't meet Napoleon Hill, but it still had a profound impact on you. See, here's the book. It's falling apart. I didn't read it. I keep reading it. It isn't up my read. I reading it. I read it read it. I keep reading it. It isn't up my read.

I reading it. I read it every day. Now, that was a commitment that I made on the 21st of October, 1961. Ray Stanford said, if you read that every day, do what I tell you. You see, you have anything you want.

Of course, I didn't believe that, and I said I would do it. And I don't know why I did it because I never did anything that I said I would do up to that point. My word wasn't worth anything. If I said I'd do something, well, probably I wouldn't do it. But for this, I don't know why. And I started and I've never stopped reading it.

And I think we're programmed the wrong way. Like I have a great library of books here in the studio. I have one in the house. I learned a lesson from Earl Nightingale. I have here a book holder. It holds a book open on my desk. Earl Nightingale had one sitting on his desk. The first time I met him, it was in 1966.

And I spent an hour with him. I asked him, I said, what is that on his desk? He says, what is what? I pointed to it. He says, the book holder, hold my book open. And I said, why do you have it like that? He smiled. He smiled.

He said, I'm going to read that until I understand it. He said, the book, no, he said that page. And I questioned him, I said, what do you mean? He quoted something, he said, no amount of reading or memorizing is going to make you successful. It's the understanding and application of wise thoughts that really count. So he said, I learned a long time ago

that if I kept reading the same thing, I would start to understand and I would start to apply it. I immediately started to look for a book holder. And the secret is to read the same thing over and over and over again. This is a page that was written probably around 1920. It's by Thomas Troard, I don't know if you're familiar with him. He was a great author. It's the creative process in the individual. Starts out as if it's an old saying

that order is heaven's first law. And see if that's the only thing I read. What does that really mean? So I learned a long time ago that if you want to learn, you've got to understand what it is you're reading and you've got to apply it. And the proof is in the pudding is the results there. And if the results aren't there, then you really haven't learned anything.

You've got to change the results. By their fruit, you'll know. And I think Jesus said that. I could be wrong and I'm somebody else might have said it. And but that was good advice by their fruits. You'll know them. You can tell by their results they're getting whether they know what they're talking about. I think the trick is to keep reading it over and over and over.

Repetition is the first law of reading. That's how we became programmed. It was repetition. First of all, we're programmed genetically. Mum's DNA, dad DNA came together, and that formed a nucleus of us and 280 days later, then we made our debut in the planet

and the programming then continued by the environment that we're surrounded by. If you take a look at the results, you know, and almost all welfare recipients are third, fourth, fifth generation, well very recipients. And it continues until someone breaks out of that, which takes a fair amount of strength and understanding and probably criticism. Yeah, I'm so happy that you've brought up this really powerful point of repetition, because I think

our programming is to always seek something new and to seek something fresh and to try something new. But the repetition, I remember, and I say this often that at one point in my life, I would listen to Steve Jobs' Stanford commencement speech every single day, And I listened to it every day for about nine months in a row where not only did I know the words off by heart, but the words had a chance to actually penetrate through to my heart. And I genuinely believe that that changed so much of my programming because the words in that speech are just absolutely phenomenal and powerful coming from someone who had such a big influence.

And I completely agree with you that whether it's that reading a line and I love reading too, but in that case it was listening, it was hearing someone say it repetitively every single day, and it just really moved my life in such a powerful way. So I'm so glad that you raised that point. Something you just said is very important. The repetition you're saying, listening and hearing, listening and hearing, of course, are two different things. We hear with our ears. We listen with our emotions. There's an enormous difference in the two. We can be hearing all kinds of stuff, but not listening to it. A person can be talking to us, we can hear them, but not listen to them. And the trick is to listen to something. And it's through the

repetition and the listening and the listening, that would have impacted your life tremendously listening to it that long. Yes, thank you so much for clearing up that distinction. I think you're Yes, thank you so much for clearing up that distinction. I think you're spot on that. They are completely different things. What's the programming Bob, do you find today is the biggest block? What's the paradigm that's the biggest block in people's minds and lives today

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And then when they do understand what it is, it takes some of respectable money time to try and understand what their own paradigm is. And then how to change it. Like, I'm frequently asked, how do you recognize your paradigm? Well, the best way to recognize your paradigm, possibly the only way is to really observe your own performance, your own behavioral patterns, your own thought patterns,

how you meet and greet and how you treat people, how you treat situations, your reactor, you respond to situations, our behavior is controlled to an enormous degree by a parent. Our paradigm, I see, is a multitude of concepts that are fixed in our subconscious mind that control almost all of our habitual behavior, and almost all of our behavior is habitual. So it's almost all the person's behavior is controlled by their paradigm. And if they start to pay attention to it

and ask themselves, why am I doing this? Why do you do this? Why do I do this? We're doing things that don't produce results, but we keep doing them. And sometimes they do produce results we don't want, but we keep doing it. And people've got to think, you know, I listen to Earl Nankyel's recording, same as you listen to Steve Jobs speech, are you familiar with Earl Nankyel's Stranger Secret record? It's such a magnificent.

No, not that specifically. It's 40 minutes the best philosophy that you'll hear. And right in the beginning, he quotes Albert Switzer being interviewed by a reporter in London and asked, what's wrong with man today? And he thought about it for a while. And he said, man, simply doesn't think. And I believe that's true. If you listen to most conversations, it's obvious the person is not thinking or they would never say what they're saying. Or if you stand back and observe their behavior,

they would never do what they're doing if they were thinking. So I think, you know, the greatest problem today is just recognizing that we are being controlled by ideas that are somebody else's ideas. They're certainly not ours. I think it's our responsibility to recognize that and break out of it. See, I think I am a soul.

I don't think I have a soul. I think the soul is perfect. That perfections for ever seeking expression with and through me. It's essential that I recognize what I'm doing and attempt to improve my own performance on behavior and my own awareness, because awareness is all there is. And I believe your purpose in life and my purpose is the same as God's purpose. It's become aware of why we're here. And we're forever seeking a greater awareness.

And of course, as we develop it, we show it in our results. Like I always say, a person doesn't earn $100,000 a year because they want a hundred a year. They're earning a hundred a year because they're not aware of how they're in a hundred a month. People are not alone and lonely because they want to be alone and lonely. They're alone and lonely because they're not aware of how to develop meaningful relationships. People don't live in sick bodies because they enjoy it.

They live in sick bodies because they're not aware of how to maintain health in their body. So awareness is really the key. And the paradigm is blocking that. I think the paradigm blocks our growth and our level of awareness. We learn the wrong thing. We're taught, you know, read the book, put it away, get the next book, read that book, put it away, and they asked

you questions, you know, yeah, you know, you know, in the next question, they don't know anything. They read all these books, but they're behavior and indicate they've never read anything. would indicate they've never had anything. No, I couldn't agree with you more. I think using your language of paradigm, when I started to understand the habits and the conditionings that I had and still have, as you said, it's an ongoing process. You always become more and more aware of what's blocking the full expression of the soul, because the soul is trying to express itself, but it's covered over by all of these other conditionings and paradigms. Virus.

Sorry, viruses? Yeah, viruses. Yeah, exactly. That you can't really access the true power of the soul or the true presence of the soul, because you're covered over in the tradition that I studied living as a monk. It was always described as a mirror with lots of dust on it. So when you try to clean the mirror of the dust, the dust first comes in your face and

it irritates you because it's like that virus you just mentioned. How do we keep positive and motivated in the journey of cleansing our paradigms towards our soul? How do you keep a sustained level of enthusiasm in this journey that actually requires quite a lot of profound internal work? I think you said the right word there in enthusiasm. I think people are looking for excitement. Yeah, very well said. And there's quite a big difference.

Absolutely. I've always pointed out when you see a person that gets excited when something good happens, you're going to see somebody gets depressed when something bad happens. And there's a great lesson in that. We're rather than getting excited, we should get enthused. We want to look where enthusiasm comes from, it comes from in Theos, which is in spirit. And everything just is.

And if we can look at it, it just is. It's neither good nor bad. It just is. We're not going to get excited. We'll get enthused. And if we look at the negative, it just is. It's not going to depress us, because it just is. So I think the trick is to understand

that there was between enthusiasm and excitement. And how do you maintain the enthusiasm? I think the only way to maintain it is to continually study who you are. Never stop studying. Now, I don't think you just sit and study, do nothing else. You have to study, you have to study, understand,

and you have to apply it. So it all comes out in results. Now, I have found a great way to measure results is in money. You can measure it to the penny. People say happiness or health. You can't measure a person's happiness. And you cannot measure their health. You can go and you can have a checkup and they'll say,

guys, in perfect health, they walk so the doctor's office of Bangie drops dead. He wasn't in perfect health at all. The appearance he was. But in earning money, you provide service. But you've got to control the money. You don't let the money control you. If you fall in love with the idea of You don't let the money control you. If you fall in love with the idea of providing service and it's in a profit-making way, you can earn a lot of money. Well, then you can put that money to work to do great things with. And that's sort of the path I'm on. Like my partner and I, we build schools over

in Africa. And we do them through it, since accuracy of their in Los Angeles is the unstoppable foundation. We take a lot of joy in that. We have people in the company go over and see the work that we're doing, you know, that they're contributing to. You've got to keep checking your results and you have to keep raising your own level of awareness. And the only way to do that is to continue to study. But control your life. Don't let life control you. So you're living from the inside out, which sounds very esoteric or philosophical, but

it's the only way I can explain it, because that's really what you're doing. See when you talk about money, Bob, I feel aligned with that too. The idea of I grew up in a mindset of where I often thought that money was the root of all evil or that money meant someone had to do something negative to get it or you always had just enough to survive. And I find that we still see that paradigm existing in society, but see when you talk about money and even when I learned with the monks where we really understood the value of money, you see it as an energy source of service.

You see it as an energy source of service, of helping, of giving, of providing. Tell us about that mental shift that's made because I feel that you're obviously a teacher in the law of attraction and popularized and shared that concept. How about when, what are some of the myths with the law of attraction when it comes to money? Because I find that there are a lot of misuses or misapplications of the law of attraction when it comes to money. Oh, listen, when it comes to law of attraction, it's almost synonymous with the ignorance. Totally. Totally anybody understands the law of attraction. The secret, of course, really blew up the law of attraction in a big way,

caused a lot of people to think about it, but we didn't explain it properly on that movie. Didn't get into it in depth. And most people don't know how to get into it in depth. Attraction, it's a secondary law. It isn't a primary law. The primary law is a law of vibration. And the law of vibration decrease that everything moves, nothing rests. We live in an ocean of motion.

Circulation being one of the first laws in the universe, when circulation stops, death sets in. Well, we operate on a frequency. You do, I do. And what we're really attempting to do is raise the frequency that we're operating on. We want to operate on a higher frequency all the time, because that's where the real beauty of life is.

Well, this thing we're living in is a molecular structure in a very high speed of vibration. And the brain is an electronic switching station that alters the vibration we're in. Well we operate on a frequency and the only thing we can attract to us is that which is in resonance with us. So the reaction is actually attraction. It's like Emerson said, the law of cause and effect was the law of laws. Action, reaction is the law of cause and effect. Well, our thoughts, feelings and actions we send off into the universe, it's a vibration.

The universe sends it back, it responds in like manner. Well, the response of the universe is the attraction. You can only attract you what vibrates in harmony with you. So if we see things coming into our life that we don't like, let's understand what we don't like is in harmony with something inside. So we better try and understand what it was or what it is. Get rid of it. Attractions, a secondary law, and we've got to understand it is very real, and you only attract to you what you're in harmony with.

When you want something that's on a higher frequency, you've got to operate on that higher frequency, because all the thoughts and things that you require are on that higher frequency. Most people I say are living on an AM frequency trying to listen to FM music. It doesn't work. How do you know what vibrational frequency level you're operating at because people often judge their performance by their productivity, by their efficiency. We're not trained, as you said, with your paradigm, again, going back to that, we're not

trained to observe our frequency and vibration and people are not sure. So if someone's listening and watching us today, how do they know what their vibration or their frequency is? How do they diagnose that? Well, I think the only way to do it is by the results you're getting. It'll tell you. Right. Make sense. You see the results do tell the truth. They don't lie. Spirit manifests through its polar opposite always. Where spiritual beings, spirit flows to and through us and we'll do anything for us.

Whatever we ask, it'll give us. And we're asking in thought. So what we want to do is take a look. What have I been thinking? Take a look at your results. You'll know what you're thinking. That's how you can tell the frequency you're on. You want to start frequencies vibration vibrations feeling.

And you say, I feel bad. What you're really saying is, I'm not in a very good vibration. You say I feel particularly good. You're saying, I'm in a pretty good vibration. Conscious awareness of vibration is referred to as feeling. So I think the way to really understand the frequency and the vibrations you're operating on is by the result you're getting.

Yeah. And if you're continually having problems in all areas of your life, you're on the wrong, you're on the wrong vibration, you know, very low level of vibration. And we can change it. Now I teach that in the seminars, I have ways of illustrating everything. It's important and as people get into it, they really like it. See, I think when you hear the truth,

you'll know it. And I came across, I don't know, it came to me. I guess I was searching for a way how to explain that. When you hear the truth, you'll know it. Well, there's music in this room right now. There's music in your room. You may not hear it, but we know it's here. It's being broadcast, it's in the room. And we don't hear it but we know it's here. It's being broadcast. It's in the room. And we don't hear it because our ears are not operating on the frequency the music is being broadcast on. But if we turned on a radio, the radio picks up on that frequency, speech it up, the Zippo, we up on a higher frequency, and we can hear it. Well, it's the receiver and the radio picks it up, sends it up on a higher level where you hear it.

When you hear the truth, the truth resonates with the essence of who you are. And when it resonates, it sets up that vibration, it comes out on the conscious level as knowing. You just know, you just know that's right. Yeah. When you hear the truth, you'll know, I know it. That's true.

Well, that's true when you're reading something, when a person says something to you, you hear it and you just, I know that's not true, I know that is true. It resonates with the essence of we, there is perfection, our spiritual DNA is perfect. And when we hear the truth, it's like that's the receiver. And it clicks in, you know, and it clicks in, you know. Now, we're pretty fascinating expressions of life, you and I, and everybody else. I mean, the beautiful part is, like I've studied this, like a scientist, probably more serious as the time goes on.

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podcasts. Yeah, it's a great obsession. It's the beginning of all knowledge, right? It's the seed of all knowledge. Everything starts from that question. And it's, yeah, it's the beginning of all knowledge and seeking of true knowledge. I loved what you said about the truth always resonating. Tell us a bit about Bob around the applying the law of attraction to love in our lives because I find that one of the biggest paradigm blocks that a lot of us have and I know a lot of my listeners feel challenged with is the finding of love, the keeping of love, the growing of love in a relationship with another person. It can be one of the biggest challenges. As you said, our spiritual DNA is perfect, but our material experiences

in DNA comes with baggage and pain and stress. And we end up attracting or vibrating at a level where we attract something that actually is what we need at the time, but isn't what we really truly want. Tell me a bit about your experience in that area and your field or study in that area. I think that love is resonance. When two people are in love, they're on the same frequency, intellectually, emotionally, and physically. Most people that get married are not in love.

They're in habit, or that stay married are not in love. When two people are in love, they enjoy thinking about the same ideas, conscious mind deals with ideas. They they enjoy thinking about the same ideas, conscious mind deals with ideas. They get emotionally involved with the same idea, so they're setting up the same vibrations. Their heart is on the same frequency. And physically, they enjoy doing the same things. They have a great physical connection. That's when two people are in love. They're in harmony, intellectually, emotionally, and physically. You can fall in love with your business. I'm in love with the business that I'm in. In fact, emotionally and physically,

I'm in it right up to here, you know. So that's where I see love comes in. I don't think most people that are married are in love. I think they see each other and he thinks, God, she looks pretty good and she thinks he looks pretty good and they go to bed and they go to heaven for 15 minutes and they say, we're in love. Well, they were actually having some fun, but they weren't in love. But they thought they were. And so they get married and they have nothing in common really. And some of them will give the marriage a quiet funeral and get on with life. And others will just stay there and live like that, but there isn't any love.

There may be respect and things like that. But I see love is when it's harmony, it's resonance. You can love a person, you can love an idea, you can love a location, you can love a place. You know, it's like Paul the Apostle, he said the greatest thing is love and he's so right. Well, that's when everything you're in harmony with everything in all aspects of your life. And pretty well the way I'm living. Now, it's taken me 87 years to get here.

You know, but life's pretty good. Yeah, I can tell. I feel it from the way you speak. It's definitely there, which is beautiful. Where does anyone who's listening to us today, Bob, will definitely feel inspired and moved? What would you want someone to do straight after they stop listening to this episode as they go back into their own life after listening to you today? What do you want someone to do straight after they stop listening to this episode? As they go back into their own life after listening to you today, what do you want them to do? Who do you want them to be? Where would you like them to start?

I'd like them to ask themselves, what do I really want in this life? What do I really want? And take a pen and write it down. What do I really want in this life? They might start out, what do I love doing? I think that's where you start your purpose in life is what do you love? I'm living my purpose. See, your purpose is why you're alive, why you get out of bed in the morning. And some people never figure that out. They never even give it any thought. When it's probably the most important question a person can ask themself.

If you start out, what do I really love doing? That's a good place to start. You know, I had a doctor here, probably a couple of years ago now in Phoenix. He was in a seminar and he said, he was telling me he was thinking of quitting the medical profession. I said, why are you going to quit? Well, he said, you got to put in a lot more time to earn less money today. And I said, well, I've heard that.

He said, the medical profession is all messed up. And I said, well, I've heard that too. I said, why did you become a doctor? Well, he said, I love it. I said, why would you want to quit? Well, he said, because you can't earn. I said, win him in. I said, if you're doing what you love, if you never earned a dime, you're spending your days doing what you love to do, that's a trick of life. I said, your problem is you

think you were in money by going to work, you work, you work, you don't work, turn money. People are in the most money, don't work at all. You're in money by providing service, but you gain satisfaction from doing what you love. And there's two forms of income, one satisfaction, the other's money. It's a material thing. But I said, if you're not getting satisfaction of what you do, you should quit it.

Because they said, that's where it comes in. That's why we should figure out what we love to do and then dedicate our life to it. I got into this business. I had been studying it for quite a while and I had the opportunity already mentioned a visiting girl, Nankyel 1966 and I was leaving his office right at the end and I said, oh, what is the big deal in life? Well, he said there isn't any big deal, Bobby said, it's simply a matter of setting and figuring out what you love to do and then dedicate your life to it. Said the problem with most people is they never figure out what they love to do. Well, I can feel

the hair going up in the back of my neck. I knew exactly what I love to do. I love to do what he was doing. I was and I wanted to do it with him. I had a very busy company at the time. We're operating in Canada, the US, England. But I knew that I was and I wanted to do it with him. I had a very busy company at the time. We're operating Canada, the US, England, but I knew that I was finished doing that. I was going to come back. I was going to work with him two years later. I was his vice president sales. I wanted to do in the what he was doing, being the business he was in. And that's where I made the decision. And I love it. I love what I do. Now, that's what people should be doing. What do I love to do? Then dedicate your life to it. Now you earn money by providing service. You earn money while you're sleeping.

Just figure out how to serve people. You don't have to be there. You don't have to physically be there and do it. You can serve people while you're sleeping and get paid. And that's how you're in money. So you've got to learn how to earn money. But that has got nothing to do with a life of living what you allow. That's the first place. So if I was telling anybody, sit down and figure out what you love to do, and then make up your mind. You're going to dedicate your life to it. But stop small people. What they love to do, they think you can't earn any money at and that doesn't matter. Forget about the money. That's another subject, favorite how to earn,

and good talk to people and not earn money. I know how to earn money. I can teach people how to earn money, but that is not the thing, it's to provide service. So the most important thing, what do I love to do? Sit down.

What would I really love to do? How would I love to spend my life? That's what we should do. And unfortunately, most people never get involved in that exercise. Thank you, Bob. Yeah, no, I couldn't agree more. I think, you know, I was very fortunate when I was young

to try out so many things and experiment and explore and experience so many things that it becomes more obvious what you love when you've allowed yourself to try your hand at many things because it's the same, I always say it's the same as finding what's your favorite food that you love. You have to try more foods to know which is your favorite food and it's the same with activity and work in life. We have to try out lots of things.

What gave you the confidence when you wrote your book, you were born rich. Tell me about that title. Tell me about that title. Tell me about that confidence, that conviction of telling people that they were born rich. What does that come from? What does that mean? I think it comes from awareness. It's funny to mention it because almost everybody tried to talk me out of it. You don't know.

But actually you can't text that. And well, the truth is everyone is born rich. We are born with deep reservoirs of talent and ability within us. We're born rich, most people are just short of money. The riches are in the talents and the abilities that we've got within us. I argue with a lot of people to keep that name, but I just made a mind. It's the truth you are born rich. That's all there is to it. Funny thing about the book, you know, I don't type, I can type on this computer to get online, but the type of letter, man, will take me a long time.

So I wrote the whole book, my hand. And something I learned about paper, paper swells when it gets old. It swells. Well, I had a file. It was what that's thick. It was the book. I had finished it. It was in a big file folder.

I was in a cab and I left it in a taxi. I couldn't tell you the color of the taxi, a little on the name or the number of it. I didn't have NFS and that was the end of the book. I remember telling my wife, she said, well, how come you're not upset? I said, Linda, it's so bad, it's gotta be really good. You can't have something that's really bad that it's really good.

It's the opposite side of the same thing. I said, the book probably wasn't any good. So I started, I wrote it over again. And it's turned out that must be pretty good. A lot of it over again, you know? And it's turned out that it must be pretty good. A lot of people overhead, you know? That's incredible. Yeah, that's awesome. I love that story.

Bob, you've been so generous with your time today. We end every interview with what I call the final five. This is the fast five. Each answer has to be one word to one sentence maximum for these five questions. So if you're ready, I'm ready to go. Okay, question one. What's the best piece of advice you've ever received? Study every day. Second question. What's the worst piece of advice you've ever received? Don't trust people. Great, awesome. Thank you. Question number three, what's something that you know to be true, but that other people might disagree with you on? So what's something you're quite confident

about, but other people may not quite understand. There's greatness within every human being. I like to qualify that too. Yeah, please. I went into Kingston, Penitetry, and Canada. It was maximum security. It's closed now. I guess it was something like Alcatraz. I went in there one Saturday a month for five years. And I was told by security and everybody else, you can't let everybody come to me.

And I said, listen, if I'm coming in to speak, everybody comes at once to come. And I saw some real bad people.'m coming into speak, everybody comes, it wants to come. And I saw some real bad people. They were classified as real bad people. I saw them change right around because I taught them all the same thing. I had one that was in solitary confinement for seven and a half years when I first met him. He'd been sentenced to 27 years.

You know that man got out on a parole with me and I had the Canadian government tear up his parole about two years later and it was a seven year parole and give him his passport so he could move to England with me. And that was my positive proof because he was considered a real bad guy. That's amazing. Yeah. And so I really believe there's greatness in every one of us.

There's goodness in every one of us. And when we really understand that, that's what we're going to look for in people. I love that. I love that. Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that story. Question number four out of five. What's something you wish you knew earlier?

I wish I knew the value of studying earlier. Oh, how I wish I had known that. I was 26. I was a terrible student. I hated school. I wouldn't listen to the teachers. I wouldn't read the books. I wouldn't do anything. Anybody told me. I was undisciplined. I thought I was a smart guy. I was just so dumb. And I was down, going down the wrong path. And like that, when I met race Danford and he gave me this and he talked to me. I started to study. I love it. Now, I thought when I started, I was fairly old. I was 26. Now I'm 86. I'll be 87 until I, now I realize how young I was, how fortunate I was fairly old. I was 26. Now I'm 86. I'll be 87 until I now I realize how young I was. How fortunate I was. But even with that awareness, I was still was I had started to study at a very early age. It's beautiful. Thank you. And fifth and final question, Bob. If you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow.

What would it be? You know, there's a chapter in a book that I read. I love it. It's called The Science of Getting Rich by Rodels. Chapter 14. Leave everyone with the impression of increase. I love that. That's great. We've never caused everybody to feel better because you've been there. Leave everyone with the impression of increase. That is a brilliant law. We've never had that. I love that answer. That is such a brilliant answer.

Everyone that is Bob Proctor, please go and follow Bob on YouTube, on Instagram, on Facebook, on all the social media platforms. Bob, it has been such a joy speaking with you today. And I've gained so much depth and insight, reassurance from so many of the things you've said. Is there a lost message that you want to leave our viewers with and our listeners with

that you feel you want to share with them? No, I just want to say how much I've enjoyed this interview. I mean, you really good at this. I really enjoy this, Jay. And you ask such good questions. You're obviously a great student. I just thoroughly enjoy this. And so I would recommend,

I can leave anybody with them, whoever you are watching this, encourage them to watch Jay's podcast. Well, listen, this is so important. If I'm one person coming on here sharing this, you bring other people on that have good information. Share this. Get your friends to watch this. This is how things spread. It's share good news. And that's what I see you're involved with, Jay. And I want to thank you for inviting me and I really enjoyed being here. It's been my pleasure Well, thank you, Bob. It's it's been an honor for me and I look forward to meeting you in person one day hopefully soon and

Everyone has been watching. Let's take Bob's advice make sure you tag me and Bob on Instagram and Twitter Let us know what resonated what are the insights? What is the habit that you're going to practice tomorrow? Because of this interview that you heard. I love seeing your feedback. I love seeing what resonated with you. Again, Bob, thank you so much for your time. I truly learned so much. And I can't wait to see what they learn. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, everyone, who's been listening or watching. We'll see you again for our next episode of On Purpose. Thank you.

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