On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Elissa Goodman: 3 Health Secrets From Celebrities Favorite Nutritionist & 2 Health Trends You Are Wasting Your Money On

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

What’s your go-to nutrition hack? Is it truly beneficial for your body’s health? Today, let's welcome Elissa Goodman, a renowned integrative holistic nutritionist known for her expertise in cleans...ing and nutrition. She has gained recognition for her personal journey of overcoming significant health challenges, including cancer and autoimmune issues, which inspired her to take control of her health and help others do the same. Elissa has developed her own kitchen cleanse program, which delivers nourishing and healing foods directly to people's homes. Elissa explains the concept of cleansing, which is often misunderstood as deprivation and starvation. Her approach focuses on nourishment and reducing inflammation through a diet rich in a variety of vegetables and plant-based foods. She describes the benefits of her cleanses, which help people reset their bodies, improve digestion, and enhance overall well-being. Jay and Elissa also significance of habits such as regular blood work, proper sleep, meditation, and journaling for maintaining health. We get to hear practical advice, including tips on how to read supplement and food labels, avoiding additives and fillers, and the benefits of simple, whole foods and maintaining a balanced diet. Always listen to our body and make health decisions based on individual needs. . In this interview, you'll learn: How to hydrate properly How to improve digestion How to manage stress for better health How to address emotional well-being How to understand your body's needs How to use plant-based proteins Take the first step towards a healthier you by embracing these holistic approaches, and experience the transformative benefits for yourself. With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty What We Discuss: 00:00 Intro 04:23 What is Cleansing? 05:58 Is Cleansing Necessary? 06:48 How Often Should You Cleanse? 08:47 Surviving Cancer 14:39 You Can Heal Cancer 18:05 The Benefits of Juicing 19:54 Celery Juice 25:06 Habit Change 28:00 Muscle Testing Supplements 29:44 The Right Supplements 33:11 Read Product Labels 37:42 Different Types of Cleansing 41:11 How the Digestive Tract Works 42:47 There’s No One Diet for All 46:02 Supplement Misconceptions 49:16 Going Back to Basics 52:37 Tap Into Your Subconscious 55:30 My Plant Medicine Journey 58:07 Releasing Kept Emotions 01:00:28 Takeaways 01:02:06 The Sickly Child 01:05:52 Hypnotism 01:07:32 Programing of Our Subconscious 01:10:33 Forgiveness 01:11:59 Elissa on Final Five 01:14:21 Manifesting Positivity    Episode Resources: Elissa Goodman | Website Elissa Goodman | Instagram Elissa Goodman | LinkedIn Elissa Goodman | Facebook Elissa Goodman | YouTube Elissa Goodman | TikTok Cancer Hacks: A Holistic Guide to Overcoming your Fears and Healing Cancer See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:50 Jay Shetty. The one, the only Jay Shetty. Hey everyone. Welcome back to On Purpose, the place you come to become happier, healthier and more healed. Now I love turning my offline relationships, people I'm a fan of, bringing them onto the show and having the conversations where I'm speaking to a trusted expert.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Today's guest is someone that I followed on social media for a few years now. And anytime I have a question about a new supplement, a vitamin, a product, this is the person that I go to to pick her brain to find out what she has to say about it. And considering I trust her so much offline, I thought I'd love to introduce you all to her online. I'm speaking about Alyssa Goodman, who's an integrative holistic nutritionist. Alyssa had issues with her health for her entire life from cancer to autoimmune issues and Hashimoto's in her 30s,
Starting point is 00:04:45 which inspired her to take control of her own health and the lives of people around the world. Alyssa has created her own delivered EG Kitchen Cleanse in LA. Alyssa's EG Kitchen Cleanse allows people to have nourishing, vibrant, healing food delivered right to their doorstep. Alyssa has been seeing clients for a decade now
Starting point is 00:05:06 and is part of the healing journey for thousands of people around the world. If you don't already follow her on social media, you definitely will after this. If you're someone who wants to work on your health, if you're someone who wants to get more connected with your body and if you're someone who wants to know how to cleanse and detox, this episode is for you. Welcome to the show, Alyssa Goodman. Thank you. What an introduction.
Starting point is 00:05:29 That was so beautiful. Oh, well, I have so much more I could say, but I stuck to the professional introduction. But we obviously have a wonderful personal connection too. I know. And I just, I love what I do. So it comes easy, as you can imagine. You know, I just, I absolutely am I do. So it comes easy, as you can imagine. You know, I just, I absolutely am obsessed with helping people get better.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I can see that. I mean, anyone who follows you on social media will see it immediately. Like it's so radiant, so vibrant, so true to who you are. And I think our audience is really going to find this fascinating because I don't think we've ever had a cleanse expert on the show before. And I wanted to start there.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Like, what is a cleanse expert? I know that's a great question because cleansing gets a bad connotation. I mean, detox cleanse is all about deprivation, starvation. And I would say that, you know, after I went to school, integrative, holistic school, I became a cleanse person for Cafe Gratitude, M Cafe, Erewhon, and I didn't know what it was. But I actually created these cleanses for these restaurants and handheld the cleansers throughout the five days
Starting point is 00:06:35 or three days, however long they were doing it, and found out their ailments, what worked for them, what didn't work for them. One was vegan and one was, you know, macrobotic from M Cafe. And it was a beautiful thing because I saw in five days people can restore their body, reset their body, get better brain, you know, retention, better digestion, just weight loss in five days, like crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:01 So feel better, energy, mood, all of it. So it was really fascinating. I'm like, energy, mood, all of it. So it was really fascinating. I'm like, hmm, there's something to this cleansing. And so I decided that it was those were a little bit more deprivation, starvation. So I created a cleanse nine years ago that wasn't about that. It's all if there's a lot of food on it. It's very anti-inflammatory and it's giving you a lot of like 50 different vegetables in over five days. So it's super nurturing, nourishing. And that's what I'm
Starting point is 00:07:30 trying to do for people is really introduce them to vegetables and plants and foods that are grown from the earth and taking away the inflammation. So that's what my cleanse is all about. Why do people need to go on a cleanse? It's because most people eat unhealthy. They eat way too much processed food. They eat bad seed oils that are out there. We're eating out a lot. We're stressed, so we're not even thinking about what we're eating.
Starting point is 00:07:57 We're eating on the run. There's just like a lot. There's just the foods out there have chemicals in them and are toxic. So I think that everybody's like not feeling well They're not energized brain fog is huge Digestive issues are on the rise autoimmune issues like we talked about cancer, you know all of it diabetes And so they need to be reset They need to have you know
Starting point is 00:08:22 Someone kind of help guide them. And when you can deliver it to them so they don't have to cook it and don't have to meal prep it, it's the ultimate. How often do we need to go on a cleanse and how long does it need to be? How does that impact? That's also a great question because you can do my cleanse weekly. So because if you're, it's mostly plant based, there is a bone broth, but if you're vegan, you can do a vegan broth. But people have had a client on there for a year and a half and couldn't get off of it loved it until she moved to London. So she just like, it's just really healthy food. So it's really cleansing is, it's not about,
Starting point is 00:09:02 you know, the detox and like, like deprivation, it's about just feeding the detox and deprivation. It's about just feeding the body and nourishing it and giving your microbiome what it needs, the prebiotics, the probiotics, giving the cells what it needs. Plant-based food is, as you know, how you eat. It really absorbs quickly into the system. Animal protein takes a long time to digest. And I do eat some animal protein. But plant-based food goes through the system,
Starting point is 00:09:32 absorbs really quickly, and can give you energy really fast. It's fascinating to me, isn't it? Because I think a lot of us are walking around, as you said, not feeling well. Not feeling good. And we start to think that's normal. And I remember feeling that way where I just thought it was normal to get a headache, or I thought it was normal to have calf pain, or I thought it was normal that my gut wasn't healthy.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Like, I was just like, oh, that's normal, I'm getting older and I'm not even that old, and it's like, you just keep thinking, oh, this is normal. It's okay. And you almost don't realize how good you can feel. And over the last couple of years, I've changed a lot about my diet, about my sleep, about my wellbeing routine. And I feel better than I've ever felt even better than five, six years ago. When I was younger and you're someone that I think inspires so many of us in
Starting point is 00:10:23 seeing how, uh, and I know you're working on a new book too called Pro-Aging Hacks and the ability to stay healthy for longer. Talk to us about the moments in your life. As I was talking about in the introduction, you've gone through so much personal struggle and pain which has shifted you in this direction. So does that mean before that you didn't eat healthy and that you didn't care? Walk us through that, Alyssa Goodman, that we don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah, it was, you know, when I was born, I was born with this low white blood cell count. So that was, I'm going to be 64 in two weeks. So I was 60 years ago and no one knew about how to build the immune system. So like fast forward, I was sick all the time. You know, I had two parents that were really type A. And as a teenager and a young 20-year-old adult, they were running circles around me.
Starting point is 00:11:11 So not only did I physically feel bad, so I was eating a lot of sugar, caffeine, you know, just trying to keep my energy up, but also emotionally, I was a little distraught because I'm like, how are these older, you know, parents running circles around me? And I can't even keep up with them. Mentally, it did a number on me. And so I kind of just like, you know, tried to keep up with everyone
Starting point is 00:11:32 and I was living the fast track. I was, you know, that's what I grew up with, making money, you know, being successful, moved from Arizona to New York, you know, worked in the advertising business, was just working around the clock, no sleep, and really eating really poor. Alcohol, entertaining, all of that. And I just felt crappy all the time. And at one point when I met my husband and we got married, I said to him, we're moving
Starting point is 00:12:00 west. And basically he was like, New Jersey? Like, no. I go, no, we're going to California. I need sunshine. I need a slower way of life because I grew up in Arizona. And thank God for that. Because when I landed in California and I got this fantastic job with Vogue magazine, I was diagnosed with Hodgkin's lymphoma. So I got all the accumulation of all my stress and not feeling well and
Starting point is 00:12:25 eating really poorly was the cancer. And how old were you? I was 32. Wow. I know. So I was I was getting a massage. I feel like you were saying I felt crappy all the time. So I didn't know what you know feeling good felt like and I'm sitting there getting a massage with like sitting upright and the masseuse felt a lymph node on my collarbone and she's's like, that's not okay. You're not supposed to have a swollen lymph node there. And so basically, next thing I knew, it was cancer. And I got really lucky.
Starting point is 00:12:52 The masseuse was fantastic to find it early. And then I found this doctor who I went to, a radiologist, who said, sat me down and was staged by that time and he said, you know, are you happy? Do you love what you do for a living? Do you love your life? Do you love yourself? You know, what's your stress like? What's your sleep like? That was 30 years ago. Doctors still don't say that today which blows my mind because cancer is on the rise and all of these things. So like he said, he made me feel at peace. Like he goes, we got to get your emotional wellbeing back in control and like get you to a better place, which
Starting point is 00:13:29 I did. I dove into all of that. And then I dove, I became a vegan and I was really lucky. I was in California and there was Mrs. Gooch's before Whole Foods. So the food, you know, there was a grocery store that was beautiful and organic. Organic meats, everything was healthy, farmed at table. And then I went and juiced all the time. I juiced every single day and did all the modalities here, yoga, self-help, went to see a therapist, and I got my shit together. Thank God! And then I went on to have two really healthy girls.
Starting point is 00:14:04 But after I did do some radiation, I chose not to do the chemo because of my immune system. And I knew my instincts told me that that was going to take me down. So I did half of the radiation. My oncologist fired me because he said, you're not doing what I'm supposed to, what I'm trying to tell you to do. And so I found someone to do half the radiation and the radiation gave me hypothyroidism, gave me Hashimoto's, celiac, all these other illnesses, anxiety, things that I hadn't had before, insomnia. So I basically like the radiation was awful, but I basically went on to have the girls
Starting point is 00:14:44 and then 11 and a half years later, my husband was diagnosed with cancer. So it's a crazy time. I mean, I got really healthy for that period after the cancer and for a while. And then I kind of went back into the unhealthy world a bit more. I didn't stay on that track.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And so when he got cancer, you know, I realized, oh my God, two parents who have cancer and watching him pass away in a year and a half, that's when I really took it seriously. After he passed away at 45, I'm like, this has to be serious. And that's like basically when I realized, you know, I have to really get healthy because I didn't have any energy. I was like my stamina was low because the life with him was really crazy for a year and a half in and out of the hospital. So and I watched him go from a healthy man to a very unhealthy,
Starting point is 00:15:35 you know, and pass away of fungal pneumonia. So the cancer didn't get him. It was his immune system. And I followed the protocols of like healthier eating and all those modalities when I was sick, but he didn't do that as much. He really was scared and he just did what the doctors said. So it was like a very different story. So thank God, like then that's when I took it a step further and I really started getting healthy. And so ever since now, you know, years later, almost 18 years later, um, I feel better than I did when I was in my twenties because of all the modalities. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that because I can't even begin to imagine what a
Starting point is 00:16:17 challenging journey that is personally. And then in a relationship as well. What, what have you found and what have you discovered as you've been studying? Because I think, you know, a lot of people will say, well, no, I need to get the radiation. I need to do what my doctors are saying. You obviously had a different confidence
Starting point is 00:16:35 and an intuition around how you wanted to heal yourself. And I think ultimately it comes down to how people want to heal themselves. What have you found works at different stages? What have you seen across other patients who are struggling with cancer? Like what have you seen? What have you witnessed and observed?
Starting point is 00:16:53 It's been fascinating, Jay, because I have seen stage four cancer heal without using Western modalities. And it really is a mindset as you are tuned into, you know? It's distressing, it's like releasing trauma, it's really getting into your subconscious and rewiring it. It's believing in yourself and having the confidence that you can heal from anything.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I do believe you can heal from anything almost. So I feel like we got to believe it. And most people don't believe they can. And most people don't believe that they love themselves. They don't admire who they are. They don't love themselves. Their self-esteem is low. So I would say that is the biggest thing.
Starting point is 00:17:39 When I ask clients all the time, you know, when they have cancer, do you love yourself? And they're like, no one's asked me that question. And I'm like, that's something we really gotta work on. Do you have peace in your life? Those are the things that totally changed my life. All of those things, finding love, finding peace, not labeling myself a sick kid, because I had labeled myself and all the people around me
Starting point is 00:18:04 as a young adult, I was a sick kid, because I had labeled myself and all the people around me as a young adult, I was a sick kid because I was always getting sick. So we label ourselves when we have trauma in those early years or we're just not in a good place growing up, we do label ourselves and those are the things we've got to rewire. I have found that to be number one. One of my favorite books, Radical Remission, Radical Hope by Kelly Turner, you know, the Heel documentary, all those things are beautiful in terms of like talking about that. And also just then I would say it comes to the food. Food is medicine as we know. So people, you know, eating,
Starting point is 00:18:39 nourishing, you know, vegetables, plants, you know, foods that are grown from the earth, that's where, you know, from the sunshine, like energy wise, that's a beautiful thing. I've always been a big juicer for 30 years, and I've been juicing ever since. I've taken some breaks, but I almost can't live without it. And so juicing greens has been like, I think, a lifesaver for me. You know, because I feel like that's my multivitamin. you'll be adding adaptogens and nootropics into your life with mood boosting properties aimed at promoting a balanced and happy mind.
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Starting point is 00:19:59 I know, because there's a lot of like controversy about juicing. It's like all the nutrients are taken out of it, you know, Correct, I'm hearing that a lot. Yeah, and the fiber and all of that. But, you know, I was a purist, so I would juice and drink it right away. So I feel like, you know, I was able to, and I would do a cold press juice. I wouldn't do heat. So that's also the nutrients stay intact with the cold press.
Starting point is 00:20:23 So I love that. Nowadays, I'm just throwing them in a blender because I do love the fiber. So that doesn't take out that also the nutrients is fast. And I love having all that fiber. So I think people just don't eat enough vegetables. I'm trying to get clients to eat eight to 10 cups of vegetables a day. And that is their eyes glaze over. Like how the
Starting point is 00:20:45 hell do I do that? And juicing, you can get four to five easily throwing them in. And I do cucumbers, celery, lemon, ginger, spinach, super easy things, and sometimes not so expensive. You know, people think it's like very arduous and got to have all those vegetables. And, you know, it could be easy. Celery is huge in terms of the minerals, cucumber is super hydrating, cleansing for the kidneys, celery cleanses your gut, cleanses your liver. I mean you know spinach is full of iron, so ginger is you know antibacterial, lemon, I mean they're just beautiful things and I think it just wakes me up every day and like gives me and also helps skin and digestion and all of that. So I think it's a me up every day and like gives me and also helps skin
Starting point is 00:21:25 and digestion and all that. So I think it's a beautiful way to start the day. And you're having that first thing in the morning. That's what you have on an empty stomach. Right. And you've just done that for years and years. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I found that too. I remember when celery juice became, you know, had its wave, which was a few years ago now, I feel. And I remember trying it out and I've still not found something better than celery juice. So you just do straight celery juice still? Generally. Well, I'll probably do like celery with a bit of apple in it, just to
Starting point is 00:21:53 give it a bit of sweetness, just to make it like easy to do. Palatable. Yes, exactly. For me to enjoy it. Usually I would just stick to celery in the beginning, but then I was like, okay, I need to enjoy this a little bit. And so a little bit of apple in it would be perfect, but just enough, just enough, not too much.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And to me, that's been one of my favorite things that has helped my gut heal so much. And I find it to be such a powerful practice. So it resonates. Who brought the celery juice craze on was the medical medium, right? We've had him on the show, yes. And years ago, I was working with him as well. And he was the one who really did help me get past my autoimmune issues.
Starting point is 00:22:29 So I started the celery juice like four or five years ago when it all just started. And I was wondering, why is the celery juice so powerful? And I started clients on it as well. And I realized there was a little bit of a trick to it in terms of it's super hydrating. And I find that hydration is really an epidemic right now. Dehydration is crazy. And celery is full of minerals. And also is great with prebiotics and things like that.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But the mineral content in celery is huge. So people are drinking the celery just wondering, how am I feeling so good? But it's celery is huge. So people are drinking this celery juice wondering like, how am I feeling so good, but it's hydrating them. So people just don't get up in the morning. And I always say it kind of blows my mind. I say people like have to have a mandatory of two cups of water, just 16 ounces of water before their coffee or their tea, or anything caffeinated. And they're like, well, that's easy, but I don't do it. And then they call me back and go,
Starting point is 00:23:26 well, that was life-changing, just two cups of water. I'm like, you paid me to tell you to drink two cups of water, that's crazy. But the celery juice is the same thing. It's super hydrating. When you're dehydrated, nothing works right. Your adrenals aren't working, your cortisol and your adrenaline are rising.
Starting point is 00:23:42 You're not going to the bathroom regularly. Your brain can't work. You think you're hungry. Like, it really is like an epidemic. And we have all this beautiful water at our fingertips, but we just don't have minerals. You know what? I've not actually thought about that. I don't think we've ever heard anyone say that so clearly, because again, like you said, it sounds so obvious.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Right. But most of us are not drinking close to enough water. And like you're saying, the minerals that actually come from the earth-grown vegetables that naturally are filled with it, packed with it. Yeah, the plants and legumes and complex carbs too. People are kind of anti-carbs when they want to lose weight, but they're full of minerals. So, and they also calm the central nervous system down. What are some examples of those?
Starting point is 00:24:28 Those are legumes and beans, you know, and also like I'd say some really good rices, quinoa, sweet potatoes, squash, all of those things, you know, wild rice, black rice. I mean, those are beautiful complex carbs, also great for the gut as well. So, yeah. Yeah. What have you seen about... Because what we're really talking about here, like you said, the client that calls you up after doing it and says,
Starting point is 00:24:52 I can't believe it worked and I can't believe I paid you for that, etc. That idea, it seems like, and even for you, like, you know, you went through this terrible experience yourself. You know, the went through this terrible experience yourself, you know, the radiation caused more challenges. You know, you go through the tragic loss of a partner, like who's also suffering from this and you say that's what woke you up. And I think a lot of us, it's hard to think that a lot of us, and I guess that's why you
Starting point is 00:25:21 do what you do is you don't want people to wait for personal loss in order to get serious about their health and well-being. But if I find that as humans we're so bad at changing our habits and we're so quick to forget even pain. And I remember this like not in a not in a close to the extremes that you have had, but I've had different reminders in my health where my body's slowed down or fallen apart or I've needed a surgery or whatever it may be. And it's so quick, like, you know, a couple of months later, you're eating all the stuff again and you're just happy that you're back to being normal
Starting point is 00:25:59 and you just let yourself go again. And then again, you get another wake-up call. And for me, I think what really got me serious was last year I sat down with my doctor, I've had on the show Darshan Shah. And when we looked at all my bloods and everything, he said to me, Jay, this is not your fault because your diet seems to be good, but because of your genetic makeup, your predisposed diabetes and cholesterol. And so even though you don't eat fried food and oily food, and you don't eat that much sugar comparatively, you're just more predisposed to it. And when I heard that I was like, all right, got it.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Like I need to now be serious about my health. And I feel like that was towards the end of last year where I just really got dialed in, but it's almost like a lot of us wait for pain in order to get proactive. And I guess the reason you do what you do is to not let people wait for pain because that's just so painful and challenging. What have you learned about habit change when you're working with your clients? What is it that really helps people change?
Starting point is 00:26:55 What are some of the hacks? What are some of the habits that have transformed people's lives? Hey, that's so good. I know because I think since COVID, people are now starting to take their hells more serious. Agreed. Thank God for that. And also you're right, like the diabetes is on the rise, like
Starting point is 00:27:10 blood sugar issues are crazy out of control. So like when I work with my clients, I would say like you what you were saying earlier, you know, with Next Health and all of that is like, I'm now doing blood work with my every client I do blood work on. I'm doing really thorough blood work. I'm now doing blood work with my every client I do blood work on. I'm doing really thorough blood work. I'm even doing heavy metals, all the metabolic, you know, thyroid, all the hormones, even if they're young. And I'm seeing such fascinating things.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Everybody's blood sugar is too high. It's not pre-diabetic yet, but it's very close. Their thyroid is out of whack. Their insulin levels are too high. Their cortisol is too high. You know, it's wild.. Their thyroid's out of whack, their insulin levels are too high, their cortisol is too high. It's wild, they got heavy metals. So they're heading towards health issues. And I feel like that has been the coolest thing lately
Starting point is 00:27:56 for me to be in the last year doing that because I'm catching these things before they get unhealthy. I know they don't feel good and they're lethargic and they're not sleeping well and they have hormone issues, but there's something behind it if they are eating healthy, you know, like there is something physical like you found and that has been game-changing like to be able to you know, get their blood sugar under control to get their thyroid working again to also
Starting point is 00:28:22 get their hormones working better before they even go into menopause has been huge. So I feel like those, you know, those things have been life changing the blood work stuff and do it at once a year. Amazing. And, and great for the clients, like it's not expensive to do with me. Also, then it's about, you know, really one thing at a time. So like we talked about, like maybe getting them hydrated the first week. Secondly, you know, maybe getting them eating more plant based foods. Of course, the sleep is crucial, like people aren't sleeping enough. And also getting them sleeping better and helping them
Starting point is 00:29:00 to sleep better. You know, there's a lot of modalities, you know, in terms of getting healthy, but I don't want to overwhelm them. So I try desperately not to overwhelm them, you know, with giving them too much off the bat. I mean, I am a supplement junkie. I've been like dabbling with supplements since I had cancer. Now it's a billion dollar business
Starting point is 00:29:21 and there's too many out there and there's a lot of crappy supplements out there. So I do feel really lucky that I've dabbled in it a long time so I know what's good and what isn't and I had to also deal with it myself. So I take a lot of supplements and I figure out what works for me and what doesn't and I muscle test them on myself and all of that and I try to teach my clients to muscle test the supplements on them. What's a muscle? Okay so this is fascinating. You have never heard of this?
Starting point is 00:29:47 I don't know, I'm not sure. Maybe it's called something else. I feel like I thought at Nextel they do that, maybe not, but you actually stick a supplement like on your gut or you can hold it. And actually it's kind of like Eastern medicine. You know, either you hold your hand out and somebody pushes your hand down if you're with somebody, that's muscle testing.
Starting point is 00:30:06 How you do it on yourself is you put it on your gut and you stand, kind of like try to balance yourself and stand upright. And then you say, hey, is this B complex right for me? And then your body moves forward if yes and back if no. And then you say, should I take one? Should I take two? And your body tells you everything. It's so in tune. You know, we were born with these incredible instincts
Starting point is 00:30:32 and we lose touch with them, right? Like we lose touch all along the way with all the things that have gone on in our life. And it's the same thing with food, with supplements, with what we need to do to heal ourselves and where we want to be in our lives is all instinctual. So the instincts are huge. So I try to teach them that as well. It's so interesting, isn't it? Because I feel like we've become so distrusting of our bodies.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Because we've been told to trust someone or something else. And of course, we do need guides. We need experts. We need doctors. You know, and I'm not discouraging anyone from any of those things. I'm just saying that. I think claiming back some of that in the same way as when you eat something, you know, whether your body is accepting or rejecting it based on how it's feeling. And of course, if your digestion is strong, then it gives you the best sense.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Sometimes if your digestion is weak, it may not give you the best marker. But when you're talking about vitamins and supplements, walk us through in a practical sense, how does someone make a choice? What do they need to read on the back of a box or a bottle with vitamins and supplements? Like what should they be looking for and what should they be looking at
Starting point is 00:31:42 to make sense of it from a technical standpoint, not just the intuition standpoint? Yeah, that's a great question. Because you want to have as least fillers and additives in that supplement as possible. And what's a filler and an additive? Filler is like something that just fills up the supplement. You know, it's like a, you know, crystalline cellulose as a filler. Not all the supplement is going to be the B complex,
Starting point is 00:32:08 but they need other things to bind the Bs for you to be able to digest them. So a lot of times, or like it's expensive to have the supplement be all liposomal C or B or whatever, vitamin D. So a lot of times they add the additives so that it isn't as costly. So it really is a struggle because a lot of people don't do well with these additives and they don't know that. So microcrystalline cellulose is one that's in a lot of supplements and it gives you digestive issues if you're taking too many. So you could see a lot of people's supplements
Starting point is 00:32:43 and they can all have microcrystalline cellulose. I mean, it's wild. So it or soy lecithin, you know, or just these additives, just like in foods, you know, it kind of maintains the shelf life of the supplement as well. So it's hard to find supplements without that because they're costly and a lot of people can't afford that. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:03 So that's why, you know, I try to go more with the food and that lead with the food and then supplements come second. But there are some supplements out there that we absolutely do need. Vitamin D is one of them. I mean, since COVID, the studies that have been done on vitamin D, and especially liposomal D, because liposomal is a phospholipid outside of a you know supplement and basically is better to absorb easier to absorb like liposomal C and liposomal glutathione all those things and so basically you know D when you raise your D levels you can lower your cholesterol actually you raise your D levels it's better for your immune
Starting point is 00:33:42 system it's better for cognitive function. People don't realize that there's a vitamin D cell receptor in every cell in your body. So, you know, there's that, it's omega-3s, it's, you know, it's magnesium. Like, there's certain things out there be complex for stress. Get emotional with me, Radhita Vleukya, in my new podcast, A Really Good Cry. We're going to talk about and go through all the things that are sometimes difficult to process alone. We're going to go over how to regulate your emotions, diving deep into holistic personal development, and just building your mindset to have a happier, healthier life. We're going to be talking with some of my best friends.
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Starting point is 00:36:58 a show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah. I don't, one thing I definitely didn't realize until I really got on a good regime of supplements and vitamins was just how much harder I was working to feel good. Like it was, I just thought it was a mental battle. And so I was fighting the mental battle every day with meditation and mindfulness and everything else. And then I realized, I was like,
Starting point is 00:37:29 actually I would have been a much better meditator if I just took supplements and vitamins early on. Because then your body's actually helping you with that focus and with the physical activity or movement and exercise, right? Whether it's hiking or sport or whatever it may be. And it's so funny, now that you're naming all these things, I'm like, I've seen all these things on the backs
Starting point is 00:37:48 and never known what that means. And it's so easy to just feel so uneducated. And I've definitely felt that way in this space, you know, without having good people around you, it's so hard to really know whether what you're doing is good for you or not. Walk us through, like, if we took a random stack of snacks right now and I don't want to pick on any brands or anything like that in any way.
Starting point is 00:38:11 But if you were to teach someone how to read the back of a snack pack, what should they be looking out for? Because this is something that I believe has changed the way I snack. And I generally I'd say my diet is like maybe, I don't know, at this point, like 5% processed or packaged foods in any, if that probably when I'm traveling, I'll have like a protein bar that I travel with or something like that, but generally it's not, I'm on the whole foods diet and everything else. But it wasn't that way before. I used to think that if I ate healthy snacks, then that was okay.
Starting point is 00:38:50 So I would eat packaged goods and then 50% of my diet was packaged goods or maybe 30%. Walk us through what we should be looking out for because I think so much is hidden on these. Well, it's the same thing as the supplements, you know. There's a laundry list of things on the back of the snack, box or bag or whatever that you don't even recognize. I mean, there are certain dyes that are bad for us. Going back to the soy lecithin, soy lecithin is really bad for us. I see that everywhere. It's so funny. I've pronounced that long for my whole life now that you've told me. I love soy, whole soy products, but when it's processed down to that, I see that everywhere.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I love soy, whole soy products, but when it's processed down to that, it's bad. It's like the bad seed oils, that's omega-6s and nines and like really causing inflammation. So again, if it's a laundry list of things that you don't recognize, like that kind of is a no-go. I mean, you know, let's talk about some of the things we know like plant milks. You know, they've been huge for years, right? Now, thank God, there's better, healthier plant milks out there. They're just almonds and sea salt and water. Like those are the things to look for.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Something that's just simple. Even the cheeses, you know, I do love some of the plant-based foods and cheeses and some of the fake meats, but again, they could have a lot of bad stuff in them. So it's like, you just got to go for the less is more. Even the protein bars too. Every so often, it's not bad to have some of these things that do have all these things in them because you're not going to be perfect. But I would say 75% of the time, 80% of the time to try to look for, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:32 those things on the back and just try to do things with less additives. Because your system doesn't know how to process it, doesn't know how to digest it. And the more you add these additives into your body, I think more toxic you become. And also the digestive system, like the digestive issues are crazy out of control. Like I created a digestive cleanse because it's been like, everybody has digestive issues, everybody calls me.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Like every time I eat, I get bloated. I can't eat anything now, or I can't go to the bathroom like the constipation for days on end. Like it's really crazy or the other side of it where they're going to bathroom too much. That's an epidemic like the hydration. Yeah. So you're saying when you're looking at if you're outside, you're looking for snacks and products. It's like less ingredients, simple ingredients and real ingredients basically. Things that you actually know what they are.
Starting point is 00:41:29 If you don't know what they are, that's probably a sign that. And the problem is it doesn't taste as good though. No, it doesn't. Like, you know, I had a protein bar the other day because I was at Expo and I had a protein bar and I was like, oh great, like this literally had three ingredients on it. I was so excited to eat it and I tried it and it was so bad compared to the one that I've been programmed to love, which has all the other 30 things that you'd say I shouldn't eat
Starting point is 00:41:53 and are not good for me. And it's so frustrating because I'm like, I wish I was trained to believe that whole natural foods were tasty and healthy, whereas because I've been so spoiled by my taste buds have been ruined by all of this other stuff that now feels captivating and exciting and tasty. Yeah. Most of America has, you know, right? I mean, the sugar in these things like, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:19 there's a lot of sugar in these bars and in these milks and cheeses or whatever it is because things don't taste so great when they are on that simple side. You know, there's a lot of salt, there's a lot of sodium. So to make them taste better. Walk us through, so walk us through the core needs that people come to you with. So that you said they do a, there's a gut cleanse. Walk us through the different cleanses that people need in their life. So the regular cleanse is really, I'll tell you a little bit about what's on it. There's a detox tonic on it with coconut kefir, which is a probiotic drink.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I love coconut kefir, it's so good. I am a big fan of probiotics and I love coconut kefir, Coco-Yo and there's a lot of great products out there on the market. Then it has chlorophyll, apple cider vinegar, lemon, ginger in there. And then there's my homemade super seed bar. Then you basically get a bone broth or a vegan broth. Our bone broth is really gelatinous, and so there's a lot of collagen, which I love. And then you get different salads for the week, different salad dressings,
Starting point is 00:43:19 fermented vegetables, you get different soups for the nighttime, and then you get lattes for the evening. Then you also get digestive enzymes and you get magnesium. So to make sure that everything's working properly. Because people going from an animal protein diet into a plant-based, legumes and beans can disrupt their stomach, and also a lot of vegetables can as well. So there's that one, there's a three-day...
Starting point is 00:43:43 So with that one, how... walk us through... So are you encouraging people to not have dinners in that? Is that like the last... The soup is dinner. Or they could have soup for lunch and do the salad for dinner. So it's not super strict. A lot of people who exercise a ton will add a little bit of animal protein, you know, to the meal potentially and it doesn't take you away from the cleanse.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So again, you're just getting tons of vegetables, you're getting anti-inflammatory, nourishing, nurturing foods. So that one is like my regular one that has been going on for nine years. Sometimes it blows my mind because the tonics been on there for nine years, the bars been on there. Like it's crazy that things are still popular. People buy the tonics and the bar separately. And then the Gut Cleanze has activated charcoal on there.
Starting point is 00:44:33 So, what activated charcoal? So I love activated charcoal because it lowers bacterial loads in your gut. Wait, how do you eat activated charcoal? You take a pill. You can put it in a drink and you know, you could put it in the detoxonic or in water or whatever, but you take it's a pill. It's a very strong pill. And I have found when I had insulin resistant clients who couldn't lose weight, you know, weight resistant clients, their insulin was high, their gut bacteria was too high. So I would put them on five days of activated charcoal and lower their insulin levels, which was like fantastic. So that's how the gut cleanse came about.
Starting point is 00:45:11 So they get activated charcoal, they still get the enzymes, they get the magnesium, but they get chia pudding, they get sauerkraut, they still get the detox tonic, they don't get the bar because a little too much sugar. I don't want sugar for them because of the bacteria. And then they get everything else that's pretty similar. And the nighttime is a Tulsi tea.
Starting point is 00:45:29 You know that. Holy basil is one of my favorites. It's anti-inflammatory and great for the gut, great for sleep. So that's the other cleanse that I love. And so what I'm trying to do for people is really clean them out. Those clients are the ones that have a little bit of constipation issues, like aren't going to the bathroom regularly. And they're by the end of the week, they're going two and three times a day.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Wow. Like that's another crazy thing. Because people go once a day, that's considered constipated these days. It's crazy. Walk us through that because that's always like an uncomfortable topic for people. It's something that people don't talk about, but I mean, I don't think we've even, we're getting to the point of understanding how important that the
Starting point is 00:46:16 digestive system is and how often should be people going to the restroom? What, what, what should be the healthy way of going about that area of their life? Well, you know, once a day is good, twice is great, three is perfect. So we really, because we don't get enough fiber, because we don't get enough hydration, because we're stressed, because when we're stressed, our digestive system completely shuts down. We are not being able to digest our food. So and also we're eating a lot of animal protein. So it takes, you know, 14 hours to get through the small intestine, cow and animal protein and 90 minutes for plant based food, which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:58 So we're just say that difference again. So for plant based food, it takes 90 minutes to get through the small intestine. For cow and animal protein, it takes 14 hours. So we're eating eggs for breakfast and chicken for lunch and salmon for dinner. So we're just like, not that it's bad for you, but we're just, we're not getting hydration. We're not getting fiber. You know, we're stressed. We're not doing the other things.
Starting point is 00:47:22 We're not sleeping. Sleeping is very detoxifying and helping us with our digestive system. So, yeah, so we're supposed to be kind of like an animal and going after every meal. And people are a little bit like, oh, please don't tell me that. Yeah, wow. I know. It's interesting how interconnected it all is though. Like you talked about hydration earlier.
Starting point is 00:47:43 We're talking about the gut now. Like it's fascinating because it's almost like, even for me, I was talking to a friend about it this morning and we were just talking about how like, we're like, okay, we want to get proteins, but then if I'm eating this, because as a plant-based person to get proteins harder, it's also that way around. Right? So you're trying to get enough protein in your diet, but then it's like, well, maybe that particular item doesn't sit well with my gut and doesn't make me feel good.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And so you're also finding that as well, right? Like it's, it's not as simple as like, well, this is really great for everyone. Right. It's so individual. It's not a one size fits all. Right. And I do believe in, you know, if you're vegan, I can help someone get enough protein or vegetarian or, you know, animal. For me, I grew up eating animal protein.
Starting point is 00:48:26 So I feel like I need that and I feel like as I've aged, I feel like I need more amino acids. But sometimes certain animal proteins don't agree with me. So I do take digestive enzymes before I eat animal protein. So I can digest it. So I mean... What form do you take your digestive enzymes? I love this Enzymedica Digest Gold.
Starting point is 00:48:46 AT Pro is one of my favorites. It's on the cleanse. But you can also get it from apple cider vinegar. You can also get it from bitter greens like dandelion greens, arugula, endive, radicchio. So, sometimes I'll just take a handful of arugula before I eat a meal. It's really crazy and it'll wake up your enzymes. Really? Yeah. That's incredible. I didn't know that. Or after a meal. It's really crazy and it'll wake up your enzymes. Really?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Yeah. That's incredible, I didn't know that. I know. Or after a meal, if you kind of have a digestive issue, you could take some arugula and eat it. I know it sounds very strange, but or have some apple cider vinegar or take an enzyme after the meal.
Starting point is 00:49:17 It doesn't have to be before the meal. So there are a lot of tricks that people sometimes don't know because digestion can be an issue. And I also don't overdo the animal protein. Like I'm not having like 8 to 10 to 12 ounces of something. You know, I'm having like 3 to 4 ounces. So that's like, you know, 30, 40 grams of protein. So I feel like nowadays protein is the hot topic.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Like, you know, some people feel like you need to get a gram per body weight, but I'm really someone who feels like, you know, 70, 75 grams for women is great. So that's kind of easy to do. And of course it impacts based on your workouts. Exactly. And everything else that are going on. Yeah. Yeah. And hoping that you do digest, you know, what you're eating. That's important. I've found that adding in the beginning, adding protein to my diet felt heavy on my digestion. But actually it's now led to better digestion. But it took this like transition point where I was like,
Starting point is 00:50:14 God, that's really heavy. Like it's harder to digest in the beginning. Yeah. Even though it should be helping me. Right. But then I feel like it's just staying committed to it. My digestion is quite used to it. Is that natural?
Starting point is 00:50:27 Do you find that? That's the same with legumes and beans. Because people will go on the cleanse and be like, I can't eat legumes and beans. Then they're not used to that because they're animal protein eaters. And most of us have been animal protein eaters. I feel like most people I talk to, they just don't, they feel like beans and legumes are gassy and are hard to digest. But the more you eat them, the easier they are in the system.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Right. Yeah. Your digestive system gets, you know, used to it. Right. It is kind of wild. What are some of the biggest mistakes you see people making when it comes to their health and wellbeing that you've kind of noticed as trends over the years that these seem to just be the things that trip people up.
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Starting point is 00:54:25 great at what they do, but they're promoting all these different products. And they have no idea if that product is right for them. So they're buying it. So I'll like see cupboards and like suitcases of people who have all these supplements, and they're taking them and they don't feel good. They're not really making them feel better. So but the person who's promoting is that this is going to change your life. So that's huge. Also, like what's also hard is basically like following the prototype like gluten-free, you know, or not everybody needs to be gluten-free or dairy-free or all of those things. Or they're not gluten-free.
Starting point is 00:55:08 The other side of it, they're just not eating, they're not taking gluten out of their diet because it's inflammatory or dairy or sugar. Sugar is a huge one. So people really feel that they can have know, they can have a little sugar. Some people can't. So I think food wise, it's like there's so many misconceptions of what they should or shouldn't be doing. And they should be gluten free or not or dairy free or maybe like, you know, should they be? Could they have some sugar or not?
Starting point is 00:55:40 Just it depends on like what their blood sugar is, what their gut is happening. I'm seeing a lot of that, the supplements. I also see that people are over exercising too, like they're like doing Barry's boot camp and spin classes and their cortisol and adrenaline is so high and they're so stressed and their adrenals are fatigued and it's just making them more tired. That's why you have to be observing the 360 and that's what's so hard about it. Because you could look great and then still feel terrible and be super stressed out because you did, it's kind of like, I mean, we were having this conversation offline, which, you know, last night I played pickleball for two hours.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It was super physical. I think everyone's, uh, you know, everyone's fitness trackers said that we burnt like 1,100 calories last night playing for two hours. But I came back and my body temperature is really high. And so when I got into bed and as I was telling you, my AC unit wasn't working, so I couldn't lower the temperature in the bedroom and my house gets quite hot. So I had a high body temperature and the temperature of the room was probably like 78, which is super high. And so then now it was so hard for me to sleep.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And I remember while I was struggling to sleep, I just started researching body temperature and why it was hard to sleep and all the rest of it. And that's what it was saying. And I was thinking, this is so interesting because I could be thinking, Oh, it's cause I'm stressed about something or I've got loads on. And it's like, well, no, it's just body temperature and the temperature in my room.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And it's challenging because I think that, you know, food is such a source of joy. It's such a source of excitement for so many people. And yet now when you start really getting into it, it can become such a source of stress and such a source of pressure. Like, oh my God, I'm eating too much of this. I'm eating too little of this.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Like, oh no, I didn't meal prep this week. And oh no, now like I didn't get it. Oh, I forgot to take my vitamins. Like, I think we're so stressed about being healthy. How have you made sense of that? Because I can find when I'm, you know, when I'm having this conversation, there's a part of me,
Starting point is 00:57:44 I've been through the ups and downs of that, where I've been like, God, I hate dealing with my health, right? Because it's so stressful. And now I'm in a better place with it. But that's taken a long, long, long, long, long time to even recognize that healing journey of realizing I'm doing this because I love myself. I'm doing this because I believe in myself. I'm doing this because I love myself. I'm doing this because I believe in myself. I'm doing this because I love my body. I love my heart. I love myself, which is why I get to do this, but that has taken a long time even for me. So walk us through how people can balance that stress to be healthy when it should be making us less stressed.
Starting point is 00:58:19 I know that's another good one. It's just like the over supplementing and like, you know, you walk into Air One and you like, talk about stress, there's all this, you know, healthy, beautiful food, and you don't know what to choose, right? It's like, oh my god, like, there's so much out there. It's just overwhelm. And I feel like, you know, you've just got to get back in tune with yourself. And you've, you know, you can't overdo anything. I think you got to go back to the basics. You know, you just got to go back to eating real food. Try to do that. You've got to, you know, if the supplements
Starting point is 00:58:55 are disturbing you, just do less. Just do the basics of what you need. You know, multivitamin, vitamin D, magnesium, just simple things. You've got to hydrate, you know, you got to sleep. Just like you can't like get all worked up over these things because you're right, you're not going to do them. You're just like not going to do them. Like I find people just being like, this is way too much. You want it to be simple. You want them to feel better.
Starting point is 00:59:22 You want them to see results. So less is more. And I feel like, you know, we have become a society where we're doing way too much. And we just we got to pull back. We got to just we got to believe in ourselves. I think, you know, with the meditation, like I'm a huge meditator. And that's so helpful for me because I'm a type A personality. And I'm always like, go, go, go. And I's so helpful for me because I'm a type A personality. And I'm always like, go, go, go, and I got to get shit done. But when I pull back and I meditate, and I do yoga,
Starting point is 00:59:52 and I chill out, like then every my mind tells me what I need. You know, because I could do that too. I can oversupplement, I can, you knowtight about, wow, I went to this restaurant and they didn't have gluten-free pizza or wild salmon. I remember ordering that stuff and my whole family would be like, oh my God, we can't eat with you because you're such a pain in the ass. But now I'm just like, okay, who cares? But you do have to get back in touch with and reconnect your mind with your body and be like, okay, what works for me? You know, I can't like you can't, you can't go crazy about this stuff.
Starting point is 01:00:32 How have you allowed yourself to fall in love with yourself and your body and your heart and your mind again and again and again when the body gets older, it changes, it transitions, it shifts. Like what has been like your, what has been your inner practice to keep that? Do you really? I'm asking really deeply. Yeah, I'm asking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm asking a deep question. Yeah, this is fascinating.
Starting point is 01:01:03 But, you know, when I did figure it out at 58 years old, I did plant medicine. So I did psilocybin and Journey, and I really did see what my subconscious was doing to me. My subconscious was still labeling me a sick kid, always fearful. I was looking over my shoulder that another illness was going to come along the way. I was never going to be healthy. I didn't even know what calm or self-love felt like. So that really, I saw what I was doing to myself.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And I also felt a sense of peace and calm with that. So once I was able to release all of those, you know, subconscious feelings that weren't working for me anymore, I grabbed on to the ones that I was like, okay, I want that calm, I want that self-love more. And that's what really got me in touch with it. And then that's when I meditate, I can go back to that place where I was when I did some plant medicine to get me past that hump. I had done a lot of therapy, I'd done a lot of Reiki, a lot of meditation, a lot of energy healing, crystals, all this stuff, but that was really the place that put me over the edge
Starting point is 01:02:19 to really get me to a place where I could recapture and really find that calmness and happiness. And that felt so incredible, that feeling. So I journal a ton. I do have to journal and talk about what frustrates me during the day to let go of it. And then I talk about what I'm grateful for. That's huge. The meditation is huge.
Starting point is 01:02:44 The yoga is huge. Just like also getting out for. That's huge. The meditation's huge. The yoga's huge. Just like also getting out in nature is absolutely huge. I mean, we haven't talked about this at all, but you know, and you probably do this. You know, getting out in morning sun is a practice that is just incredible. Like it boosts your mood. It actually helps with depression.
Starting point is 01:03:03 You know, it helps with the immune system, it helps lower blood sugar and blood pressure, and it's like a beautiful way to start your day. The sun is so incredible. So that those are... And then I just feel like so hopeful because the sun comes up every day, right? You know, it goes down, it comes up,
Starting point is 01:03:22 it's like, okay, everything's going to be okay. I want to go back to the plant medicine point because I love hearing that and I want to dive into that with you. I didn't know if that was something I could talk about. 100% 100% of course it is. Yeah. For someone who doesn't know what a plant medicine journey looks like, like walk us through what that journey looks like.
Starting point is 01:03:43 So it is psilocybin mushrooms and I've done ayahuasca, psilocybin, bunch of plant medicine. And I did it with a shaman, a one-on-one, which was beautiful, because I recommend that. Because there's a lot of things you want to manifest and like let go of. Where did you go to do this? I did it at home, actually, with the shaman came to me. And so it was a friend of mine.
Starting point is 01:04:07 And there was just a lot of stuff I was dealing with and some insomnia at the time. And so he came and we kind of manifested what I wanted to release. And when I was on the journey with the mushrooms, he would talk to me and say, hey, how are you feeling? You know, what do you think of this? You know, when you were sick or when you had cancer or your husband died? I mean, and I was like, you know, wow, that was a really difficult time that I haven't let go of those thought patterns and the fear I haven't let go of that.
Starting point is 01:04:39 So it was so he was like, okay, what does it feel like if you were to let go of that? And I'm like, can I let go of that? Is that like possible? And he's like, absolutely. You can get to the other side of this because, you know, the first seven years of our life, our subconscious is fully downloaded. And then, you know, those thought patterns keep repeating themselves in our subconscious. And we operate 95% out of our subconscious, which always blows my mind, Jay, because 5%
Starting point is 01:05:06 conscious? That's crazy. So, I mean, that's what it did. He would write down, you know, things I said and just how I was able to release them. And once I was able to release them, Jay, they didn't come back. Like, it was like the things that came back was the feeling of the peace and the love and like not wanting to beat myself up and like be hard on myself and be I was a perfectionist too. That was part of the protocol. I think that got me sick. And so that perfectionism, you know, somewhat me, probably not 100%, but a lot of it did. You're taking the plot medicine,
Starting point is 01:05:48 someone's guiding you almost like in a therapy session, a coaching session, guiding you through questions and helping you become aware of where some of these blocks may be, where some of these challenges may be. I'm breaking it down for everyone who may be unaware. And then what does releasing in that session look like? Like what is that? Is that a feeling?
Starting point is 01:06:10 Is it a visualization? Is it you trying to let go? Like what does that look like in the session? And then we'll talk about after. Yeah, that's a good question too. Because it could be like, it's a purging. It's, you know. You could hysterically cry because it's like it's emotion that you've hung on to for many, many years and repeated these thought patterns.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So it could be crying, it could be screaming, it could be just like this feeling of, wow, I can't believe I've done this to myself. this feeling of, wow, I can't believe I've done this to myself. And I would say that, you know, it's more like the just the feeling of sadness and, and the crying and the like some maybe yelling like, God damn, I can't believe like, how was I so hard on myself? Like, I don't need to be that hard on myself. You know, I didn't need to do that to myself.
Starting point is 01:07:05 So it was like, you know, and then he was, he's amazing. He was there to like hold me and support me and just really like, you know, add just love and help me breathe through it. And once you kind of like are able to be like, OK, I don't want that anymore in my life. And then you breathe through it and you're able to breath work is like, you know, I'm sure you've done breath work is incredible. You can actually in breath work, you can feel like you're on plant medicine a lot of times. So, you know, breathing through it and releasing it through breath work is a beautiful thing. So that's kind of how it goes.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah. And are you feeling or seeing? Both. You could see yourself in a distance, like what you do, you know, it's almost like, you know, another, you're looking at yourself. Yeah, you're feeling it and you're seeing yourself in a distance, you know, how you're reacting and interacting. And even if you're interacting with other people, you know, even people in your family
Starting point is 01:08:07 or things that have gone on, you can actually see it. It's kind of wild. I know it's not for everybody. No, no, no, no, for sure. I've known many clients who've worked with it and found it to be useful as well. I think it's important to share because I want to ask, when you come out of it, like
Starting point is 01:08:26 when the session is over, how much have you found that you're able to, what are you holding onto? What do you take with you and what still stays the same? Because as we know, it's, you know, no change is ever miraculous or immediate. So what do you take with you and what still exists and is a process? That's beautiful too, because what I took with me was that sense of calm and self-love and what I wanted to have more in my life. But I did also take away the part of how much I was
Starting point is 01:09:06 beating myself up and, you know, how hard it was on myself and why I think I had gotten all these illnesses and why I'd gotten the cancer and just why I was at the place I was in my life where I wasn't getting what I really wanted ultimately, whether it also was with relationships or, you know, intimately, like all those things were really important to me to find. And you know, there was blockages. So I realized like, it was really cool to be able to journal about those blockages later, like oh my God, I want to release that.
Starting point is 01:09:37 And I kind of had to do that. And I still have to do that. It's not a miracle cure. I still in my life have to be like, okay, I need to release, you know, that thought pattern. I still kind of walk around a little bit with it, but not to the same extent. When I did the journey, I was unconscious about it. Now I'm conscious. That's a beautiful thing. Absolutely. It's that awareness. Yeah, you know where something came from. Yeah. What was it for you? If you don't mind sharing, what was it that you found when you asked, that's why I believe I'm gonna get sick again, or that's why I got sick in the first place? Where was that coming from?
Starting point is 01:10:10 That was coming from growing up, because I was sick all the time, and my mom labeled me a sick kid, and she would always be like, oh, there she is again, sick. Well, we gotta be really sensitive with her, because she might get sick. And so I kind of just, you know, followed that, you know, what she said. And I bet that's where that's really where it came from. It
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Starting point is 01:13:47 Yeah. Like that awareness helps you make sense of different things that come up now. And also with my clients, not only for myself, it's changed my life completely, but my clients, I can see that happening for them, you know, because I've been through all these health issues and because I was, you know, in this subconscious thoughts of these repeated messages that weren't working for me. We talk about that, you know, I'm like, okay, what is going on with you that's blocking you? Because there's something blocking you from getting healthy or wanting to heal or a lot of the cancer ones, you know, we talk about those things.
Starting point is 01:14:25 And also, they're also like, no one's asked me that. You know, no one's asked me what my blockages are or, you know, what's going on with me. Like, did anything happen in those first seven early years of your life that maybe was traumatic? Jay, all of them had like death, divorce, you know, or someone was mean to them, you know, they didn't and then they lost trust and faith in the universe sort of, you know, I know it's a little woo woo, but they did they lost faith in like, you know, that they didn't have what's in them to be able to overcome it. And I think like that has been like a beautiful thing for me working with clients and helping them heal.
Starting point is 01:15:07 I'm not trained to get them past it. Someone like you can get them past it to some degree. But it's like that work of diving into the subconscious. And also I work with a hypnotist that's beautiful and some energy healers that are wonderful too. And I'll send them to them as well, if they need to like do the extra work. And most of them do. What do you find those modalities support?
Starting point is 01:15:31 And by the way, I agree. I think, I mean, you know, what we're really talking about today, and I encourage people to follow their own intuition and guide as to what speaks to them, because it's almost like as you grow and learn more, you realize how much there is still to explore and how everyone's so different and everyone needs a different way to become aware and a different way to become conscious. I found a lot of my personal awakening
Starting point is 01:15:59 and consciousness in meditation and being with my teachers and listening for hours and study and in meditation and being with my teachers and listening for hours and study and practice. And then I meet people who needed a moment of revelation through plant medicine, or I meet people who found it another way. And I just realized everyone is so different and everyone's trauma is so different. And everyone's healing journey looks so different that we can't close the door on any of these modalities. Because, and I always say that, like, sometimes people ask me like, would you be open to this? And I'm like, if I needed something, if I was trying to unblock something,
Starting point is 01:16:30 I'd be open to anything because I should be. Like, why should I close off from any opportunity for healing that I need? Just because it may not be as common or as marketed or whatever the right word is. But for you, I guess the question I was asking is, when you're, we're talking about this like 360 degree approach, when you talked about hypnotism and what was the other modality you just mentioned? Just energy healing. Energy healing. So specifically with hypnotism, where does that modality play into everything we've talked about today? Like what is, because again, I think it sounds so mysterious and maybe like you said, woo woo, but like what is the point of that modality is, I guess the question I'm asking.
Starting point is 01:17:14 So I feel like some hypnotists that are really good are able to tap into your subconscious as well. So a little bit like therapy, but you know, it goes much deeper than talk therapy. The hypnotist that I work with, she's able, like I'll talk to her about something that is bothering me or I can't sleep about and she's like, oh, this is what's like at the root of your issue. And I'm like, how did you know that? She can like dive in and see like, this is what's bothering you. So that's what I find is really helpful. And then she'll do a meditation specifically for me.
Starting point is 01:17:53 So I've had tremendous amount of clients go to her or to a hypnotist that's really good who don't eat healthy, who don't exercise, who don't sleep well. So then they'll go and she's able to get them to sleep well. You know, she's able to find out what is causing them not to sleep well. And she's able to get them to eat healthy. Like it's kind of crazy. They'll wake up the next day
Starting point is 01:18:16 and automatically start thinking about eating healthy. Now I have to tell you that this doesn't last. So you have to listen to her meditations again or see her again, or, you know, again, it's like a practice. Well, because basically what you're saying here is that every decision, thought, choice we make is simply a programming of our subconscious. And we've created a subconscious pattern
Starting point is 01:18:43 since we were born that has led us to where we are now. And if we don't like where we are and we want to shift it, we have to reprogram our subconscious mind. And that requires understanding your thoughts, self-awareness, journaling, meditating, reflection. And then if you need it, plant medicine, a hypnosis, you know, just the plethora of options there. Because I think what we get stuck with is we believe that our current set of habits are who we are, right? We think that the way we eat now is who we are and what we need and what it needs to be.
Starting point is 01:19:17 Not realizing that it is simply a programmed pattern that you adopted at one point in your life and you started to believe it was you. Right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Like that's what that's what's so fascinating. I think about what I get to do, because I do find that, you know, people do feel like, you know, this is where I'm going to be. This is what I know. This is, you know, I'm not going to ever get past here. I might get a
Starting point is 01:19:46 little better, but I might not get great. And I'm like, what's with this little better? You need to be great. I feel that way with my life. Like at 64, I feel great. I feel better than I did when I was in my 20s. So I want people to know that when I say, how are you? I want them to say, great, not I'm just okay. So yeah, all of those patterns that they learned, some are luckier than others that have better patterning and better upbringings in terms of just like healthier lifestyles, and maybe not so they were more secure and, you know, self-awareness earlier on in their life, which is lucky for them. But a lot of people that I work with weren't.
Starting point is 01:20:32 And like, you, it's never too late to change. You know, I feel like, you know, we're, there's a lot of years to live. Right? I mean, my mom is 94. I know. So like, she's going strong. And I'm like, I hope I'm 94 and going strong like that, you know, but it takes work to get there and to do that. And I feel that's really just all of this I want. You know, the modalities
Starting point is 01:20:59 are endless out there, as you know, you know, like anti-aging and just all of the new stuff in the stem cells and the, you know, NAD and just everything, cold blunge and just all of it is a beautiful thing. Infrared just getting us healthier and healthier. So I mean, it's a lot to like learn, but it's kind of cool that, you know, we're on the precipice of all these beautiful things that can really turn back the lock. Absolutely. Have you ever talked to your mother about the sick kid label? Yes. Yeah. And it was beautiful because she did apologize.
Starting point is 01:21:38 She's like, you know, I didn't know any different and what she didn't know. And I think that a lot of us like taking care of people too. And she loved being able to take care of me when I was sick too. And I felt nurtured in those times as well. So I got a little something out of it. It wasn't all bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Alissa, it has been such a joy to talk to you today. And honestly, your personal journey that's led to so much professional service and love and support for so many people. And the amount of insight that you've given today, I think everyone's going to be able to take away. And this is what I would encourage everyone to do is Alissa's shared so much great advice today. Find just one thing that you want to practice for the next seven days. It may be to eat more whole foods. It may be to cut out sugar. It may be to research a bit more about inflammation and learn about it. I think just pick one thing that resonates with you that you want to try and up level your life with. It could be getting your vitamin D right. It could be sun exposure, whatever else it may be.
Starting point is 01:22:46 And start there and just feel the confidence shift from doing one thing per week and then keep adding more. And a lot can happen. Alyssa, we end every episode of the podcast with a final five. These fast five have to be answered in one word to one sentence maximum. Oh God.
Starting point is 01:23:04 And so they're kept that way. So Alyssa Goodman, these are your final five. The first question is, what is the best advice you've ever heard or received? To love yourself. To learn to love yourself. Beautiful. Second question, what is the worst advice you've ever heard or received? That you're never going to get better. You're not gonna heal. Question number three, what's something that you used to believe was true about good health but you don't think so anymore? I used to believe that just sleeping was
Starting point is 01:23:39 gonna get me healthy. You know, good sleep was going to get me healthy. Talk to me a bit about that. And it's not just that. Anything. Right. It's not just one thing. It's a combination of things. Yeah. And we're always looking for that one thing.
Starting point is 01:23:54 We all want that one miracle drug. Like what's that one thing I need to do that's going to change my life. And yeah, it's 360. There is no one. Yeah. That makes sense. Question number four. What's the first thing you do every morning
Starting point is 01:24:06 and the last thing you do every night? The first thing I do every morning is probably journal and journal about how I want my day to look like and the same thing at night to release the stress. Wonderful. And fifth and final question, if you could create one law that everyone in the world had to follow, what would it be? I would say just be kind to yourself and others, you know, really understand, try to understand that people are going through a lot in their life and to not judge right away, you know, to have some self-compassion for yourself and the others that you're with. Yeah, I mean, I couldn't agree with
Starting point is 01:24:53 you more. I really believe that the reason we judge others so harshly is because we're so harsh on ourselves and we haven't found the ability to show ourselves that self-love, that compassion, that empathy. And so it's so difficult to show it externally to people we've never met or don't know. And yeah, I love that. Alyssa, is there anything that I haven't asked you that was on your heart and mind
Starting point is 01:25:20 that you really wanna share that you really feel like is your call to right now or feel intuitively is important. And you don't have to have anything. Yeah, I mean, I think we did touch on it, you know, it just ending with the fact, you know, that you, you know, life can get better in every way, emotionally, physically, spiritually, you know, don't give up on yourself is probably my biggest, you know, don't ever, ever give up on yourself. I love that. I mean, you're a great, you're a great spokesperson for that for sure. And
Starting point is 01:25:58 I love that. And I think it's so easy to be like, Oh, my best days are behind me. It's all going in the wrong direction now, or, you know, whatever it may be. And I mean, just sitting with you and hearing from you today, I can tell just how real the opposite of that is for you. And it's aspirational, inspiring for me for sure, because, yeah, you continue to live an exciting life and know that there's so much more life to live as opposed to accepting that this is the end or this may not be. And I think it's really interesting. I was talking to a friend about this, this idea of how we often think we manifest bad things, kind of like your sick kid approach. Like we often think like, oh my God, I did this to myself. And I was talking to a friend about this and this idea of like, well, if we can do that to ourselves, then we surely can do the opposite.
Starting point is 01:26:48 What, I just want to get your sense on that. Absolutely. I know that that's a big, that's a big thing happening out there. I mean, you know, um, I'll just, I can, I only need to plug my two girls who are my inspiration in my life and, um, you know, I feel like I manifested the relationship with them. Like, I can't live without them and I look up to them and I admire them. And you know, I want to be here to be a spokesperson for them so that when they have bad days and they say maybe something like that, hey, I think I manifested this bad stuff to happen. I'm like, no, you can change that.
Starting point is 01:27:30 You know, you can manifest the good stuff in your life. And that's really drives me every day is to be able to like, hopefully be there for them to help them manifest the good stuff. Yes, I know that a lot of people feel like they manifest the bad things, but you're right, you can totally change it around. And, you know, I and they're young and I definitely didn't have the awareness they have in their 20s. I wish I did. I'm really bummed about that. Because I am really in awe of how they function and operate and, you know, how quickly they can turn things around for themselves. And I think they've been through a lot probably that's why but yeah the manifesting the good stuff I want them and you know when I'm not here later in my life you know I want them
Starting point is 01:28:16 to be able to be able to do that easily. I love that. Well I think you set them up for amazing success. They set me up. Yeah. And I didn't start talking about them because I could have spent the whole episode talking about Jordan. I know. True. But yeah, thank you so much, Alyssa, for coming on to On Purpose. Everyone who's been listening and watching, make sure you share your favorite insights, moments.
Starting point is 01:28:41 I mean, today was a full 360 degree conversation. We went from gut health to detoxing to cleansing to plant medicine. I mean, it's beautiful when this happens. And I hope that you're introduced to new modalities. I hope that you allow yourself to be open to new approaches. Again, we're not recommending that there's one right approach or a wrong approach or however, the point is to give you a menu of options and ideas and opportunities because the biggest loss in life is feeling like you only have one way to do something and when that way doesn't work or you've tried it a lot and it still doesn't benefit you that's when we mostly give up and I think recognizing that there's a whole variety of options, ideas, insights, expertise out there
Starting point is 01:29:27 actually fills you with more confidence that you'll find your way. Exactly. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. What an honor. That's a joy. Thank you. If you love this episode, you'll enjoy my interview with Dr. Daniel Amon on how to change your life by changing your brain.
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