On Purpose with Jay Shetty - Jay’s Must-Listens: 6 Love Experts Reveal How to Finally Attract the Right Relationship! Featuring Joe Dispenza & Lori Gottlieb

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

What do you think is the biggest dating mistake people make? Have you ever chased someone who wasn’t right for you? Today, in this special compilation episode, we explore all things love - how p...eople navigate it, where they go wrong, and how they can cultivate deeper, more meaningful connections. Through a collection of thought-provoking conversations, Jay Shetty and his guests offer insight and practical advice to help listeners build healthier relationships. Each guest shares their unique approach to manifesting genuine love, highlighting the importance of being present in relationships, breaking free from unhealthy patterns, and shifting focus from seeking external validation to building self-worth. Heartbreak is reframed as a powerful opportunity for growth, with the reminder that love is not something to chase, but something to nurture within, allowing the right connections to come naturally. In this episode, you'll learn: How to Know if Someone Is Wasting Your Time How to Do the Work to Prepare for a Relationship  How to Get Out of the Cycle of Seeking External Validation How to Reframe Settling as a Positive Choice in Love     How to Turn Pain into a Source of Growth and Learning The path to finding love is not easy, but every step matters. By learning from your past, committing to personal growth, and approaching love with an open heart, you create the space for deeper, more fulfilling connections.  With Love and Gratitude, Jay Shetty. Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. What We Discuss:  00:00 Intro  00:45 How to Know if Someone is Wasting Your Time 03:29 Is It Real Connection or Just Chemistry? 06:26 Am I Behind in Love? 08:59 Why Is Developing Self Awareness Difficult? 13:19 How to Attract the Right Relationship 15:55 How to Manifest Love 17:56 Have You Found the Right Person? 24:43 Letting Go Might Be an Answer 28:58 How to Love Fully Without Losing YourselfSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:53 The one, the only Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, thanks so much for tuning back into On Purpose. I appreciate it so much. Today we're diving into one of the most important topics in all of our lives, love. And love isn't just about romantic relationships, it's about understanding ourselves, building meaningful connections,
Starting point is 00:02:16 and growing into the best versions of who we are. So in this special compilation episode, I've gathered wisdom from some of the best minds out there to help you navigate love with more clarity, confidence and purpose. Number 1. How do we know if someone is wasting our time? Whether it's a relationship that feels stagnant or a connection that just doesn't seem to be going anywhere, we need to recognize the signs.
Starting point is 00:02:45 To break it down for us, we have Stefan Speaks, relationship coach, speaker, and bestselling author. He's helped millions navigate love with honesty and self-awareness. Let's hear what he has to say. So, to me again,
Starting point is 00:03:00 I think it always starts with self and you have to be honest with yourself about why are you still here? Why are you holding on? What's really driving you? Because just using an example, let's say you're a woman and the only reason why you're holding on to this guy
Starting point is 00:03:14 is because he's a nice guy. You don't feel like starting the process over with somebody else. So, even though you're not feeling it with him you figure let me try to make it work. You're wasting your time. This is where you're setting yourself it with him, you figure let me try to make it work. You're wasting your time. This is where you're setting yourself up for disaster every single time.
Starting point is 00:03:29 So, if it's not born out of a true connection, love, a genuine desire, you really like this individual. Of course, there's always things we have to work through, but is the foundation strong enough for us to say okay, we can make something special here. And I think once we are honest with ourselves
Starting point is 00:03:47 that kind of helps answer the question because sometimes we get so caught up trying to analyze the other individual that it's like we get in our heads and now we're missing the mark on what's really important here. And we can't always say for sure what's going on with them.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I will say that in general if this person isn't willing to talk about things they're wasting your time. If they're not willing to address or correct things that have been talked about they're wasting your time. If you guys aren't on the same page about what you want
Starting point is 00:04:17 and where you want to go in life wasting time. So, there are some things I think we can just look at and say listen, this is pointless here. But a lot of times and I have to say this especially for women, women's intuition is extremely powerful.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I'm a huge believer in it and I feel like women know very early this isn't it. But they rationalize reasons to convince themselves to give this man a chance and this again is a waste of time because it just doesn't work. I've seen people turn what should have been
Starting point is 00:04:47 maybe a couple weeks of dating into years of being married to someone they were not happy with. All because they did not listen to themselves from the beginning, they knew what it was but they just could not accept it for what it was. I mean, I love that. It's such an important reminder.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Trust your intuition and be honest with yourself. Sometimes we over analyze the other person instead of checking in with our own feelings. Now, let's go even deeper. Number two, how do we know if what we're feeling is true connection or just chemistry?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Stefan explains the difference. Are you even being yourself or can you be yourself with this individual? If you're presenting your representative then this is not a real connection. This is them falling for that person that you're presenting but that's not real. So, to me, you should be
Starting point is 00:05:41 already being yourself but with that person you have a connection with it's a more natural flow. We don't have to force it, we just feel so much more comfortable around them. I think in addition to that is when you find yourself all caught up in the moment and caught up in that chemistry,
Starting point is 00:05:58 again, you have to ask yourself what am I really attaching myself to? What do I really like about this individual? What I find is that when it's really about chemistry we're still on the surface. You don't really know about them yet. You just know you guys had a good time
Starting point is 00:06:14 maybe you had fun at this event. You guys were able to talk about a lot of different things which is great which is going to also be important if there is a connection. However, do you even know what kind of relationship they want? Do you know what kind of life they want to live?
Starting point is 00:06:29 You know, are you guys really on the same page? I think connection is our paths align, our purposes align. So, for us to align we have to have a deeper understanding of where we're headed and can we head there together.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So, that's why I think though you may feel it or you may feel like you're feeling it, you have to do your due diligence to dig deeper to find out okay, is this just I got caught up on the surface or there is something real here. And I think once we ask enough questions
Starting point is 00:06:59 because I think that's the other big problem. We have this experience where we feel this chemistry, we're so excited and now we're afraid to ask questions because we don't want to blow up the fantasy. Yes, yes. You know what I'm saying? We're just like no, no, I want to keep believing this is great so let me not ask anything.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Let me not run this person away, let me not rock the boat. But that's going to be what tells us if this is real or not. I think for so many people you set unrealistic expectations in who you are. Yes. And that's hard to come back from.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Absolutely. And that's why it's so important for us to know who we are so that we can present the real from the jump. You know, because again, a lot of times people... You know, this idea that we're always changing. Yes, I do think we're always evolving
Starting point is 00:07:41 but some of the big shifts that you see is not because that's just the way life is, it's because you didn't take the time to figure yourself out first. And then you got with this person and now you want them to adjust. Now, thank God for you she was able to adjust, but there's a lot of people that they can't handle that.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And now everything falls apart from there. So, that's why yeah, we have to be very careful with what we're presenting from the beginning. That's pure gold. Chemistry can feel intense, but it doesn't always mean long-term compatibility. Now, let's shift gears. Number three, maybe you're single and wondering,
Starting point is 00:08:17 am I behind? If you've ever felt that way, this next guest is for you. Laurie Gottlieb is a psychotherapist, author of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, and a relationship expert who's here to remind us why being single at 28 or any age is not a bad thing. You are exactly where you need to be
Starting point is 00:08:38 if you are doing the work. If you're not doing the work, you're going to be behind. And what I mean by doing the work is, if you are not the work, you're going to be behind. And what I mean by doing the work is, if you are not in a place where you want to be with a relationship, you have to understand why. So are you examining what has not worked yet? If I am single and I don't want to be single, what can I be doing differently? And so I think that's the important work. So you're not behind it all. In fact, you're probably ahead of people who are in relationships who have not done the work and maybe aren't in the right relationship
Starting point is 00:09:09 or are in a relationship that's not gonna last or isn't going well. Why is it that we struggle to actually do the work? What does that look like? I think it's so much easier when we talk to our friends. And, you know, I've talked about the difference between idiot compassion and wise compassion before. Idiot compassion is you say to your friend look what happened on this date or
Starting point is 00:09:28 look what happened with this person and they say yeah you're right they're wrong and we never learn or grow from that right because yes there might be something that the other person did but also what was your role in that interaction a relationship is all about relating so what was your role in that interaction, a relationship is all about relating. So what was your role in the dance that you're doing with this person? What you get in therapy is you get wise compassion, where we hold up a mirror to you and we help you to see something about what your role is, maybe something you haven't been willing or able to see,
Starting point is 00:09:59 but that's so important so you don't repeat these situations where you're in this pattern. And then you wonder, why do I keep ending up with a person who doesn't listen to me or a person where I don't feel seen or where I can't be myself or where we have a lot of volatility or where this person's really avoidant?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Why am I always with people who avoid or what makes me avoid? And I don't talk to the person about what I want or what I need. So that's the work that's really important. So you're not behind if you're single at 28. It's part of the process. If you're doing the work, you're much closer than you've ever been to finding the person that you want to be with.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I love that perspective. It's not about timelines. It's about doing the work. But why do we resist the work? Number four, why is self-awareness so hard? Laurie's got some powerful insights on how understanding our patterns can help us build better relationships.
Starting point is 00:10:54 We have this saying, we marry our unfinished business. We date our unfinished business too. So if you, let's say earlier in your life, you were around someone who was neglectful, somebody who drank too much, somebody who lost their temper, somebody who wasn't honest, somebody who wasn't reliable. We think when we're dating as adults, I want the opposite of that. I want someone where I feel safe, secure, there's trust.
Starting point is 00:11:21 But what happens is, unconsciously, again, if we haven't done the work, our unfinished business, we actually are unconscious as, oh, you look familiar, come closer. So on the surface, they don't look like that person. But then when you get to know them, you're a month in, you're three months in, you're six months in, you think, wow, that person reminds me of someone. This person feels so familiar and that's why I was drawn to this person. It turns out this person is very much like what I grew up with, is very much like the person who hurt me growing up. So if you do the work, you're able to see, oh, that person, I see why I'm drawn to them, but I'm not drawn to them in a healthy way. And then if you
Starting point is 00:12:01 do even more work, you're not even drawn to those people anymore. Now you're drawn to healthy people, stable people, flexible people, emotionally generous people, people whose values align with yours. That's who you're drawn to. So you have to do the work. Is there a healthy way of future tripping with the person? Is there a collective, collaborative future tripping? Like what does that look like? I think the future tripping is being in the present. And what I mean is, what's happening now is what it's going to look like in the future. So instead of imagining,
Starting point is 00:12:31 oh, this person will change in this way, or we're going to have this kind of life, but you don't know if the other person wants that kind of life. If you're not talking about it now, in the present, you don't know. How does this person treat me now? What is it like when we're together? The biggest indicator would be we had a disagreement.
Starting point is 00:12:49 How did we get through it? That's what your future is going to look like. We didn't agree on this. We were frustrated with each other. We had a difference of opinion. How did we repair that rupture? We talk a lot about rupture and repair. Everybody's going to have ruptures.
Starting point is 00:13:05 You have it with your family members, with your friends, with your coworkers, with your parents, with your children, especially with your romantic partners because we have this misguided notion that we shouldn't have a rupture with them because we're so in love and we see each other and we see eye to eye.
Starting point is 00:13:20 But of course you're gonna have ruptures. It's not so much whether you're gonna have a rupture, it's what do you do with it? And what does it look like? So if you have been dating for let's say six months and you haven't had a rupture You guys are not going deep enough. You guys don't know each other well enough. You're still on your best behavior You have to be able to be yourselves. That's gonna tell you what the future looks like. So stop the pretending Be yourself be what you want your future to look like be what you want your future to look like, act like you want your future to look like,
Starting point is 00:13:48 see how the other person acts, and see what happens between the two of you. And a repair would look like something like, oh, I didn't, you know, we're having a disagreement right now, why don't we take 15 minutes and let's come back when we're not so heated and let's talk about that. Or
Starting point is 00:14:06 you know you made a mistake. You know what? I've been thinking about this. You know, say you have an argument, you say, we're not going to talk for a few minutes. Let's go cool off, whatever. You call them back and you say, you know what? I thought about it. I was wrong. And I'm so sorry. Here's what I did did and I wish I had done it this way. And that's great if your partner can do that or if you can do that, right? And then if your partner then can accept that without shaming you, if your partner can say, I really appreciate that and I wish that I had reacted differently in this way. And how can I be more supportive in those moments?
Starting point is 00:14:43 That's beautiful. That's your future. But you have to see it in the present. You can't imagine what the future is going to be. You have to actually live it in the present and say, oh, now I know it's going to be just like it is right now. Now that's a wake up call. Sometimes doing the work means facing things we'd rather avoid, but
Starting point is 00:15:02 that's the only way to grow. Number 5. What if we keep attracting the same type of relationships over and over? Dr. Joe Dispenza, neuroscientist, researcher and expert on rewiring the brain, explains how we can break free from those cycles and attract relationships that truly align with us. Typically, it usually takes a crisis, or a disease, or a diagnosis, or a trauma, or a loss, or a betrayal for a person to really decide, is this really who I want to continue to be? So my message is, why wait for that, right?
Starting point is 00:15:41 So there's nothing wrong with saying, I wanna be in a relationship. I want the following things in a relationship from this person or what might be my ideal relationship. I think people have an image in their mind of what they like or what their type is or whatever. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But I think what people are really looking for is connection and joy. People should be in a relationship, the reason they should be in a relationship is to be
Starting point is 00:16:15 overjoyed to be with the person that you're with. You want joy in your life. For me, it would make sense then if the person got very clear on what they wanted, then they should start on the journey to become that very person. They should really work on being that very person that they want. So there would have to be some change that they would have to make in order to be worthy enough to create a person that they would attract in their life. And we cannot attract anything in their life and we cannot attract
Starting point is 00:16:45 anything in our life that we feel separate from. Trusting in a future that you can't see or experience, you have to lay down the very thing you use your whole life to get what you want to trust that something greater could happen and that's not something that's very easy. So I like the idea that it wouldn't happen on a date that was from an app. It could happen in a bank. It could happen at a seminar. It could happen in the grocery store in a way that you least expect. And I think that when we get to a point where we're so happy with ourselves, we're no longer looking
Starting point is 00:17:26 because we feel like we already have it. I think that's the state where people attract and equal. Become the person you want to attract. When we focus on our own growth, the right relationships naturally follow. Number six, what about manifesting love? Number six, what about manifesting love? How do we stop chasing and start aligning? Joe shares why joy and presence are the key to attracting the right partner. We're conditioned in a way to like, okay, I need something out there, I need the experience, the proof, I need the event to occur,
Starting point is 00:18:01 and the end product of that event or experience is called an emotion. The emotion takes away the lack or separation from not having it. So we're waiting for the event to occur to take away the feeling of separation or lack. And actually that's not the healthiest way to create. And actually we should feel the emotion of the experience before it happens, so that if you're feeling the emotion of that future before it happens, truly feeling it, you wouldn't be looking for it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 You would only be looking for it when you felt separate from it, right? So can you maintain that state? Because the only way you're gonna believe in that future is you have to feel the emotion associated with it. The moment you feel the lack and the separation you're gonna believe in the past and there's a story that goes along with the past that has everything to do with the dating is hard or finding a person or whatever that is the story that we tell
Starting point is 00:18:57 ourselves that we actually accept believe and surrender to as if it's the truth right so that's exactly what programs the subconscious mind into a belief, right? So the default is so seamless to lose that vision or that belief in the future, the moment we start feeling the emotions of lack or survival in the past, right? That's the moment we can't see that future any longer.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Because we would be looking at that future through the lens of the past, and we would doubt that that future could actually exist. That really resonated with me. The idea that we're not searching, we're aligning. It's a whole new way to look at love. Get emotional with me, Radhita Vlukya, in my new podcast, A Really Good Cry. We're going to talk about and go through all the things that are sometimes difficult to process alone. We're going to go over how to regulate your emotions,
Starting point is 00:19:53 diving deep into holistic personal development, and just building your mindset to have a happier, healthier life. We're going to be talking with some of my best friends. I didn't know we were going to go there, Amir. I mean, don't let me get this serious. People that I admire. When we say listen to your body, really tune in to what's going on. Authors of books that have changed my life. Now you're talking about sympathy, which is different than empathy, right?
Starting point is 00:20:15 And basically have conversations that can help us get through this crazy thing we call life. I already believe in myself. I already see myself. And so when people give me an opportunity, I'm just like, oh great, you see me too. We'll laugh together, we'll cry together and find a way through all of our emotions. Never forget it's okay to cry as long as you make it a really good one. Listen to A Really Good Cry with Rady Devlukia on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. gives us the answer. We talk with the scientist who figured out if your dog truly loves you and the one bringing back the wooly mammoth. Plus, does Tom Cruise really do his own stunts? His stuntman reveals the answer. And you
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Starting point is 00:22:43 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Number seven. Once we find someone, we often overthink it. Is this the one? Is there someone better out there? That's where Matthew Hussey, relationship coach, and New York Times bestselling author comes in. He's been coaching people for years
Starting point is 00:23:02 on how to make love work without the mind games. Sometimes we're wanting something else because there's, you know, the person that's in front of us isn't compelling enough. There really is something lacking in that relationship. But I do think we have to ask ourselves what are the things that I really must have for an amazing relationship? I'm not a, you know, there's the one out there What are the things I really must have for an amazing relationship? I'm not a, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:30 there's the one out there kind of a person. I've never been that way. If you look, anyone looks back through my videos, and you know this because we've spoken about it, back when I was single, you know, I've never been a person who believes in the idea of the one. So, I think that it's finding someone that we've, you know, we look at what's really important to us, not what's important on an egoic level.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Because I think a lot of the things that make us question whether this person is right for us are ego-based. I don't think they're based on how we feel around this person. We worry, is this the kind of person my friends think that I should be with? Do they look the part? Are they my type, my normal type? Do they make the right amount of money? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Like is this, does, has this person come in the package that I had always told myself they would come in and those things can be really, really limiting. And they can have us like constantly trying to optimize for some version of something that we think we're supposed to be with, which is a very dangerous way to go about finding love. You can't optimize for human beings. You can optimize for a lot in life, but you're dealing with people. By the way, even if you let go of this person, you're going to find someone else who's also
Starting point is 00:24:49 imperfect. And they might, okay, this person is, you know, scores a seven in this area and they score a nine, but guess what, they score a three in this other area that you didn't even know was great in this relationship because you took for granted how amazing that person was in that way. Like it's very dangerous to optimize in that way in our love life.
Starting point is 00:25:13 And I've come to really believe in life that if you find a connection that has all the right raw materials and you both have the same level of commitment, then you can build something extraordinary together. And actually, the extraordinary is the thing you sculpt together. It's no different from a career. When we think of what's our like, what we worried about in our love life, for so many of us, it's that we're going to settle. Yes. I'm going to settle for the wrong person. Well, I think we can actually start to reclaim the language of settling and
Starting point is 00:25:50 make it into a very positive thing. That what if it wasn't settling for, what if you decided to settle on? Because when you settle on someone, there's a power to that. It's like you resolve to say, I'm going to settle on this. I have to argue that the benefit I have gotten from the pain that I didn't choose has been no less valuable than the benefit I've gotten from the pain I did choose. In fact, actually, I think the most valuable pain I've ever had is the pain I didn't choose. And when you realize that, you can kind of almost, I think, look at some
Starting point is 00:26:27 of the worst moments of your life as like a menu of pain. And beside the item on the menu is the very specific, unique benefits that can only come from this kind of pain. And you can kind of imagine yourself choosing, like retroactively choosing that pain. Which is a very valuable thing to do because there's, I was told by a psychologist about an experiment on rats where one rat was on a wheel and was just given, you know, like the free rein to just run whenever it wanted to run. There was another rat, this was rat A, rat B was connected to that wheel.
Starting point is 00:27:12 He was on another wheel that was connected to rat A's wheel. And any time rat A chose to run, rat B had to run. Right, so both doing the same amount of exercising. But at the end of the experiment, rat A shows all the positive markers of exercise. And rat B shows all the negative markers of stress. Oh wow. Same amount of exercise.
Starting point is 00:27:36 What's the difference? Well, rat A chose to run. Rat B didn't. Anyone who doesn't choose you cannot be for you. If they don't see you, like what is a relationship? It's someone sees you, they accept you, and they want that. That's the most beautiful part of a relationship.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So if someone doesn't see you and accept you and want what they see, then this relationship is missing the most beautiful part of any relationship. It shouldn't even be desi... You know, it shouldn't be desirable at that stage because it's not... It has failed the fundamental test
Starting point is 00:28:19 of what makes a relationship worth having. We're not talking about a person who, you know, in at least the case I feel we're talking about, the person who was taken from us by life. We're talking about a person who's just walking around somewhere, still existing on the planet, but choosing not to be with us. That should lose its romance to us. You know, and to say, well, if...
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's the other game we play, is if it was a different time in life, if they were a bit older, they would have been ready to commit. If they had been in a different phase where they weren't so busy with their work, they might have had the space to really give to this relationship, but they said their work isn't allowing them to. If it's like we go through all these scenarios
Starting point is 00:29:07 where it forces us into this sad love song of right person wrong time. And that's a really like pernicious story. That's a very dangerous story because it takes what belongs in the realm of science fiction and brings it into our reality. That's such a fresh take. Stop looking for perfect. Start building something real. Number eight, sometimes love isn't about holding on.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It's about letting go. And no one explains that better than James Corden, comedian, talk show host and actor. He shares a powerful analogy about love and letting go that I know will stick with you as it has with me. Most of us are conditioned to believe when you find something good, hold onto it forever. Make sure it lasts forever because you never know.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Well, then you're a kid with a balloon. Yeah. Right. And you go and hold, I'm never, I'm never ever going to let this balloon go. Right? And you go and hold that, I'm never, I'm never ever going to let this balloon go. Right? And ignoring for this for a second, the environmental impact of letting a balloon go. Let's talk about it just metaphorically. You know, that you go, I'm like, this is my balloon and hold this, but I'm never ever, ever, ever, ever going to let go of this balloon. In fact, I'm going to go,, I'm gonna tie it to my wrist
Starting point is 00:30:25 so it can't disappear, because that happened to me once before. And it, you know what I mean? I'm gonna just, you know, that's it. And then slowly that balloon will just wilt and it will run out of the thing that made it gray. And it will just then be, then it's tied to your wrist
Starting point is 00:30:41 and you're dragging it behind you, right? And actually, there's something quite beautiful. And again, environmentally, I'm not encouraging this. We didn't know about this when we were kids. When you let go of a balloon, it's magical. Magical. Look, and then you see it and you're like, oh my God, I used to have that.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I used to hold onto that and look at it now. Look, it's just flying. That's amazing. And then you go, well, now I haven't got a balloon. And then you go, well, maybe I'll get another one. Maybe there'll be another balloon and maybe it'll be a different shape or it'll be shinier or whatever it is. Like, you've got to be able to let go of stuff, to make new things come in. You've got to have the space and the time to encounter something new. A friend of mine, a year ago, maybe less, had his heart broken in the most brutal circumstances.
Starting point is 00:31:48 It was his first love, first girlfriend, and they broke up. And he was just not in a good way. And this was his first real proper serious girlfriend, certainly the first time he'd been in love before. I just found myself saying to him, I was like, this is great. This is great because you really only understand what love is once your heart's been broken.
Starting point is 00:32:25 You understand how tender it is. And I was like, and you understand it now. And what's... You're looking at this all wrong. You get to do it again. You get to do this again. You're going to meet someone else and feel all these feelings. And perhaps you'll go into that relationship, learning what you've learned from this relationship, and that will then feed that relationship in a different way. And like, and he's just met someone, right?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Yeah. And he's like, oh my God, this is amazing. And I'm like, yeah. Got that balloon again. Yeah. Like, that's it. That's it. And so, again, I think it's expectation is the thing that makes us hold on to stuff. If you can just ebb and flow with stuff, you're going to find it so much easier to take the good, the bad, and the everything in between is just all being good for you.
Starting point is 00:33:25 This next conversation is really close to my heart because it's with someone who knows me better than anyone. My wife, Ravi. She's not just my life partner. She's an incredible nutritionist, chef, and advocate for conscious living. Over the years, we've learned so much about love together. What it means to grow as individuals while staying deeply connected as a couple. Number nine.
Starting point is 00:33:48 How to love fully without losing yourself in the process. Radhi shares her wisdom on maintaining a strong sense of self while being in a loving, supportive relationship. People think that time is the investment. Like the amount of time you spend with someone is what the investment is. This person is willing to spend two hours with me, but this person is willing to spend 15 minutes with me.
Starting point is 00:34:08 That must mean the two hour person values me more, loves me more, cares for me more. But what is the quality of those two hours? What is the quality of those 15 minutes? Makes such a difference. And I think, you know, I've just been so used to that concept that that's what I always related to this friend
Starting point is 00:34:28 or this relationship, this person wants to spend the most amount of time with me, that must mean that person loves me more. And so I think that's something I've really changed because you can feel so much more fueled from a 15 minute interaction with someone and loved with presence than then you can with, you know, two hours of someone's distracted time.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And that's something I'm still working on as a person of being someone who's present. I think it's something I've really, you know, I've been up and down with it. There are different times where my mind can just, you know, go everywhere and do everything and not even be in the same room as everybody else that I'm in the room with. But I think it's something that I know I want to be working on and something I want to be
Starting point is 00:35:12 improving on. I think a lot of people love people being dependent on them. Definitely. Because it gives them a sense of significance. Definitely. Especially if you don't know what you're doing in your life or if you feel like you're a bit lost helping other people. And although that's a great thing
Starting point is 00:35:25 when you help other people, but the intention behind it and what you're receiving from it can make a huge difference in how you actually feel about it. So like, if you're helping someone through intention of genuinely caring for them, genuinely helping them, or are you helping them, because it fuels you into feeling valuable, and therefore, like, for me, I remember it used to be just a way that I would throw myself into so I didn't have to think about what I was doing in my life or how to figure out
Starting point is 00:35:53 my own things. It was just, oh, this is great. I need to be doing this. This person needs my help. I need to like create this space for myself in their life because then I don't have to think about all the important stuff I actually need to deal with. So it was the easier option and more of a selfish option. But I think that's a value that I have changed.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I really hope that you got lots of value from that. That's why we're doing these compilations. I want to make things simple, seamless and practical for you. Love isn't just about finding the right person. It's about becoming the right person. And through all these incredible conversations, one thing is clear. Self-awareness, growth and intention
Starting point is 00:36:31 are at the heart of real love. I really hope this episode gave you clarity, perspective and inspiration to approach love with more purpose. If something resonated with you, share it with a friend who needs to hear it and pass this on to someone else. I'll see you next time on On Purpose.
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