Painkiller Already - Painkiller Already #294

Episode Date: August 11, 2016

This week on PKA, it's been a long time but Hutch is on the show! The guys have a great political discourse about Donald Trump, Hilary Clinton and the issues the United States is dealing with, they re...count stories from their youth such as egging homes and then Kyle shares his recent explosive training course from his time in Texas.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're live, PKA episode 294. Kyle? Yeah, we've got a few sponsors tonight. We've got Dollar Shave Club, Movement Watches, Seeso again, I'm a big fan of them, and Loot Crate. We'll talk about all of those later on in the show. If you're interested right now, check them out. There's a link down below in the description. Use our codes. But for now, let's get to it. We've got Hutch on the show. Hutch, what are you up to?
Starting point is 00:00:20 Like three years or something. Same old shit, man. I've been going to the same party for seven years now and in no way is that depressing. No, I'm not. I'm doing like, I do a lot of streaming now. I'm still doing YouTube stuff. I'm still at it, man. Where's the money? Where's the money? Yeah, I feel like a lot of people are doing better on Twitch than YouTube nowadays. I think it depends on where you're at. For me, it was a good transition because when you do YouTube, you guys know, when you do YouTube for so long,
Starting point is 00:00:51 it's really, really easy to burn out and not feel like you're having fun with it. But when you're streaming, it feels like there's a lot more organic interaction and a lot more opportunities to make jokes and just have fun and all the witty banter. It must be nice to have fans that like you. That's not my experience at all. We had different channels back then. I think if I would have done a channel similar to yours
Starting point is 00:01:15 where it was like cod tips and stuff like that. I mean, I did do that, but it wasn't. You were more, what do you say, surgical about it. And so I think you're just going to attract like a younger crowd. Maybe that's it. I don't know. Yeah. The internet is a cruel mistress.
Starting point is 00:01:30 To answer your question, though, there's like now it's different. It's weird now for me because my money, my income comes from like five, six different places. So it's not just like YouTube is a part of it, but it's actually kind of a small part of it. It's nice when you diversify like that. Like, I don't know. There's a little more security in it.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Whereas, like, maybe 2010 Hutch, you might have an omission by then, but hypothetically, whenever you just first branch on your own, you know, like, if you get a strike, all of a sudden, like, holy smokes. You know, like, stop everything. This could be a big issue. Now it's like, oh like oh no income down by 20
Starting point is 00:02:06 like let's sort it out and yeah you can you can you can figure your way out of a lot more problems when when you have more streams of revenue coming in yeah are you still doing gaming i feel like i can't hear myself with this headphone i don't know if i'm loud enough am i talking loud enough yeah you sound great yeah yeah i think you know if i'm loud enough am i talking loud enough yeah you're good i'm sorry taylor what you say i was saying i apologize i haven't checked out your channel in a long time are you still doing gaming shit or are you transitioning more into just you as a person out because those are always the videos that got the most traction for you are the ones where you just kind of were yourself uh there's like it's still mostly gaming stuff but
Starting point is 00:02:44 i'll do stuff like i got into cooking recently i started cooking like a madman in december or november was like the first time i got into it and i've done a few of those kind of videos too and they've uh i just did one yesterday or the day before with gassy mexican and uh it was received like really well so yeah i mean i think i've always been like i've always treated my channel to as as a as a as a way of being creative in like a lot of different ways like i still do lots of gaming stuff but every once in a while i like to throw in like something that's my personal flavor i don't want to talk about me right now music music boring music boring topic i want to talk about you here's i got a question you made a conscious
Starting point is 00:03:19 decision this is back before really twitch was a big deal to share less of like i don't know the the who hutch really is like your background your vulnerabilities etc and just keep it more surface hutch is that still the same deal or how do you feel about that call i don't know if i did we talk about this before or is it something that was that an observation that you made i feel like you talked about it at one point. I don't know if it was via Twitter or Facebook or what, but it came from you. I think maybe.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I think, like, I think you, that's just, to me, that's just, like, a normal trajectory when it comes to social media. Like, for people that have become popular on social media, there's this initial uptick time, and it's really, like, it induces a lot of adrenaline and excitement and it's intoxicating and then after a while you start to see the negative side of social media maybe you say something that you didn't quite mean in a certain way but then people take it out of context and all of a sudden you literally have thousands of people yelling at you so once you learn those lessons like enough times then you kind of slowly naturally start to pull back.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I still think I'm pretty transparent for the most part, but there are some topics that I won't touch. And that wasn't the case. You're right. When I first started, it was like I would talk about anything. I would bring on an ex-girlfriend and talk about maybe having a threesome. Nothing was off limits when it came to that sort of thing. I just don't feel like I want to do that now. I feel like I'm more of a grown-up now, too, though.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I want to ask you about this. You said you were going to watch Suicide Squad later, right? Did I hear that correctly? Yeah. So are you up to date with the early Rotten Tomato reviews and stuff? Yeah. Does that worry you, or you don't give a shit? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:05:03 It's a bummer because I want the DCEU to be awesome. I really liked Man of Steel. Do you guys like Man of Steel? I did. I did and I watched the extended version and I felt like the added half hour of content fleshed it out well and made a lot of it make sense. I like Zack Snyder. I like Zack Snyder and I like
Starting point is 00:05:20 very dark, gritty, graphic novel feeling movies. As much as I like the feel good Marvel stuff. I like them both for different reasons. Are we talking about the same movie? Yeah. Are you talking about Man of Steel? Batman v Superman right now.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I'm talking about Batman v Superman. Yeah. I saw Man of Steel too. I liked it as well though. I mean it was very dark. It was probably even darker. It was very dark. I liked it too.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah. Yeah. It was really dark. I really liked Man of Steel. I thought Batman v superman was flawed but i still enjoyed it in the extended cut you're right i thought it fleshed out a lot of the plots like lois's plot is just inexcusably bad in the theatrical cut because it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense what happened to her in the desert and everything but then when you see the extended cut it's like man like why did you not just like add that extra 20 minutes or something, or however much they added?
Starting point is 00:06:05 The Watchmen is kind of flawed in that way, too, that when you watch the extended version of The Watchmen, not only do you get 18 more seconds of blue dong, but... Dude, I love the extended cut. I thought you were going to say you love the blue dong right there. It's great. That's one of the few movies that...
Starting point is 00:06:23 Full frontal male nudity happens we you know go back to gigolo with uh uh richard gear um and uh what's his name from mr uh the wolf from pulp fiction um whatever his fucking name is harvey kytel he's done plenty of uh full frontal male nudity but it's not often that you get it just right there on the swing and dong for like long they need to do that more because the way they do dick shots most like male nudity is they'll like have the post sex and the guys of course immediately flaccid you know how sex is you finish and you're already you're already good to go like and then it's just kind of a game of you looking like is there going to be dick and it's just carefully placed thighs and blankets i like the game of
Starting point is 00:07:05 thrones approach which is just the scene starts on cock and it pans out and it's like starting here now you don't even have to look we got to we took care of that for you now pay attention to the dialogue you should watch movie called shame starring michael fassbender it shows his dick a bunch and uh actually i don't know how we even got in this conversation. Have you seen the Orlando Bloom stuff lately? It's like trending on Twitter. If you don't know, I did my research for science and the shot I saw was him on like a paddle board with some girl but he's on his knees and there it is.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Rock out with your cock out he's got like a half chub probably about 60 60 to 65 percent yeah i i just assumed he was gifted i don't know yeah i think so too because the shot i saw had was in no way like yours he's just naked running with like some palm trees behind him he's like outside running with like some palm trees behind him. He's like outside running with like Six or seven inches hanging or something like that So I think the whole the whole Twitter sphere is applauding Orlando Bloom right now But but completely forgetting how like if this were a female celebrities nudes that were out there There'd be so much shaming going on immediately. Oh my god, because orlando bloom it's it's funny everybody's like look and everybody's making
Starting point is 00:08:27 jokes about it and and hey we are too i just i just think it would be a she would be on the other foot i think there are two like there are two groups in both of these situations you have the group cheering it and you have the group calling it immoral and equating it to rape uh and like the only difference between the two situations is just like the proportion between the two but I still think I think it's probably not that big of a big of a deal he doesn't care I saw Justin Bieber's at all the beat B you know his cock got shown I don't know maybe nine months ago something like that and that guy I don't know if he was – I think Orlando Bloom has more cock than Justin Bieber.
Starting point is 00:09:06 You know, the Justin Bieber shot wasn't very good. In my memory, the Justin Bieber cock was – Enhance. Enhance. Was like – Enhance. Like he's a top five percenter or something, the Bieber, if I recall correctly. And he talked about it. You catch a dick in the right light.
Starting point is 00:09:22 With their cocks out. I haven't seen the Orlando Bloom pics because I saw them trending on Twitter. I was thinking like, oh, maybe he's in a new Pirates movie or something, a Legolas spinoff. You know? Just the elves. No. First story, Orlando Bloom's cock is out. And it's like, oh, well
Starting point is 00:09:38 goddammit. I didn't look at it. But I think if these guys are famous enough to know that people could be watching, they might be doing a little bit of fluffing beforehand. So Bieber talked about it, and he did the... 55%. So I was trying to get out that James Corden, you know, the guy that
Starting point is 00:09:53 does that carpool karaoke thing? He had Bieber on there, and he's like, yeah, you know, it's a real invasion of privacy. I kind of didn't like it, but all you can do is laugh. And then he went on and said uh he's like i was really worried because it was by the pool that there'd be shrinkage and everything and by the way he was like i said rocking a horse dong and he's like and it turns out there was and
Starting point is 00:10:14 everyone's like get the fuck out of here that wasn't shrinkage so it was pretty funny i would have turned out far worse if i was justin bie think we should all be saluting Justin Bieber for not being way more fucked up than he actually is. For having as much money and power and fame and wealth that he had at such a young age, him pissing in a bucket and making fun of Bill Clinton is like A plus. It's like nothing. He's passing with flying colors. He egged a house. I mean, I've egged a few houses.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Are you going to say that you've never peed where you aren't supposed to pee? Everybody's peed where they're not supposed to pee. It's just nobody gives a fuck when we do it because we're not Justin Bieber. You're talking about public urination. He's probably a little shit. You know, he probably is. But, like, I don't know. I stopped judging him in my mind a while ago.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I'm like, you know what, man? You do your thing, pal. I would do the exact same thing if I was you. I think a little shit. Yeah, that's the perfect definition definition of that guy i think he's a bit of a shit i think you know what a neighbor complains about noise so he like throws eggs on his home and something like that now that's not a good response having said that there are worse people out there i keep we peeled out that like there was this one girl in high school. She never fucked with us. She never did anything wrong to us. We just decided one night that we didn't like her
Starting point is 00:11:30 and we peeled out on her fucking lawn. Like her parents front lawn. You asshole. They almost called the cops and pressed charges and stuff like that. But kids just do stupid shit. And if you add immaturity of youth with
Starting point is 00:11:46 several million dollars then you know i don't know i think he's doing fun i think he's and like we were all little shits at one point that's my point it's like we were all little shit so everybody everybody needs time to kind of get their shit together and some people take longer than others to get their shit together and there's nothing wrong with that really when i heard he egged the house i i just couldn't have cared less. It's like, really? They were making a really big deal of it, and they were talking about deporting him back to Canada and things like that, and I was just thinking, like,
Starting point is 00:12:11 look, it's shitty if you egg someone's house. Howard Stern always tells this story at length about how much he hates houses getting egged, because when he was a kid, someone egged his father's house, and he remembers his father on the ladder washing the egg off, and how it ruined the paint, and how they couldn't father on the ladder washing the egg off and how it ruined the paint and how they couldn't really afford to repaint the house and it was a big burden on them
Starting point is 00:12:29 and that that night at dinner his father was stressed about it and you know oh these kids why why have they done this and you know he's kind of looking at howard like maybe howard inspired this this egging and he's just talking about how awful it was that his house got egged so when he when the justin bieber thing came was like, ah, this piece of shit. This motherfucker. But, you know, I mean, we egged strangers' houses and people we didn't like's houses when I was
Starting point is 00:12:53 17 years old. That's still in the appropriate range of egging. There's no appropriate age. It's a shitty thing to do. You should find a more victimless, like, hijink to get up to. At least it'd be hard. It'd be really hard to get a more victimless, like, hijink to get up to. It's really hard to get it off the house, too, because it cakes on there. You gotta get, like, fucking tools
Starting point is 00:13:10 and then repaint the whole... It sucks, man. We got egged when I was a kid, too. At 17, though, if you're egging at 17, I don't think that you're a lost cause, like a degenerate fuck. I think you're probably just a douche at 17. If I went out at 25 and went to the house, they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:13:26 sir, what the fuck? What's wrong with you? I want to back up real quick just a minute and say that I don't... I wish that I had not peeled out. I feel like when I said that, I don't want to make it sound like I was glamorizing
Starting point is 00:13:42 it, because if I could not do it, I would never ever have done that. I think we all feel that same way about so much that we did, you know, especially as teenagers, like, for me especially, like, I got into all kinds of hijinks and little pranks and things that I saw as pranks, but, you know, there was probably
Starting point is 00:13:58 some situation, like Howard Stern described, when we, like, sprayed Roundup all over that guy's perfectly manicured lawn, where he was just like why why did they do this to when i was a freshman in high school i was 13 years old and i slapped that girl who tormented me here i am at 43 right 30 years later i still don't have a better idea you know i don't i don't know how I could have handled that situation any better. She tormented me for ages. I tried to talk my way
Starting point is 00:14:30 out of it. This happened for three months. I say ages. Three months. That's a lot of high school. This girl, she followed me from this... We had to run so from the track back to the high school was like two blocks and she would just follow me saying, you're a fag.
Starting point is 00:14:45 You're so gay. Look at you. She'd do this thing with her hands like the shape of a woman. She'd do that behind me. He's got wide hips. I got wide hips and puberty just wasn't very kind yet. I had not broad shoulders and stuff. She's telling me gay
Starting point is 00:15:01 day after day after day. By the way, this girl, beautiful, right? She's dating a junior, captain of the wrestling team. Like she just – she's in such a power position here, and she's tormenting me constantly. And I slap the daylights out of her, and 30 years later I'm like, what was I to do? You were 13 years old? i think so so i graduated high
Starting point is 00:15:28 school at 18 i would have entered it at 13 you know the thing with the thing with bullying and getting bullied is that everybody has a threshold and like even if even if it's not the appropriate response you can only push someone so far before you you get an inappropriate response if you don't expect a snap then i don't think that you'd understand human psychology very well everyone has a break yeah i just got picked on by this girl i don't know what were you gonna say about what were you gonna say about burning out taylor oh the story of uh hutch ruining that poor old woman's lawn from years ago reminded me of when did i ever tell you when we ruined
Starting point is 00:16:07 joel quinville the current coach of the chicago blackhawks yard okay so uh so when i was much younger i so joel quinville used to be the coach of the saint louis prosecuted for this just oh no no so joel quinville at the time was the coach of the saint louis blues the professional hockey team here and we knew him from the r. Louis Blues, the professional hockey team here. And we knew him from the rink because we played hockey and hockey is just a community. You get to know everyone. And so one day we were driving his son back to his house because my mom knew his mom and whatnot. And they were friends. And so we drive to Joel Quinville's gigantic palatial mansion. Just beautiful, beautiful home and one of the most expensive areas to live here.
Starting point is 00:16:44 My mom pulls up into the long, long driveway, beautiful home in one of the most expensive areas to live here. My mom pulls up into the long, long driveway, like a Woody-style driveway, and drops the kid off, starts to back up, and within, I don't know, four feet into this hundred-yard backup, I feel the van go, cartoon, cartoon, and we're in the yard. And I'm like, Mom, Mom, we'reinnville's yard you need to get you need to get back onto the driveway she's like it's fine taylor this just happens sometimes adults don't hit the driveway and they back up and she backed up a hundred yards pretty much just and it was wet you know it's humid it rains a lot here so every once in a while you have to give a little extra gas. You know, into the yard, and
Starting point is 00:17:28 when we got out, I looked back fucking mortified, because obviously I'm a huge blues fan, and I just, like, am talking to this guy all the time, like, oh, you know, like, what are you doing with fucking Chris Pronger now? Like, oh, this is so sweet! And I just look up as we drive away, and there's a huge, basically a straight moat,
Starting point is 00:17:44 all the way, the length of their driveway and we just drive away as my mom's like it's fine they won't even notice it and i just was like oh my god and i told my dad when we got home and he's like your mother did what she ruined joe quinville's yard joke oh jesus christ and he had to do damage control but that oh that was so humiliating i didn't even do it but i don't know that reminded me that's awesome so the um i just got back from from texas i'll talk about the the trip more later in the show but um i was there doing explosives training and demolition work and uh on the first day i like a moron i left my my uh sunscreen in the car and so like no sunscreen 100 degree texas heat out in the middle of the sun like digging holes and blowing up ordinance all day and i just got baked and i
Starting point is 00:18:32 didn't drink enough water and i got really dehydrated so the next morning when i got up at like 8 a.m to go back at it again i felt like absolute dog shit so i stumble into the local gas station and i'm getting my Gatorades for the day. I got like a gallon of Gatorade for the day, and I'm wearing my Game of Thrones shirt. It's a white shirt, and it's got a big red dire wolf, and it says, The North Remembers. And the lady behind the counter goes, North Remembers, huh? And I immediately do the math in my head. Like I'm already on the same page with her.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I don't need to catch up. I know what's going on and I have a decision to make. Do I start telling her about the Starks and the Lannisters and Westeros or do I have a little fun here? I was just like, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:19:23 What exactly are you remembering? The war. Well, down here in Texas, we remember plenty good, too. And things was almost turned out a different way. And I was like, ma'am. What did I say? Oh, the bear island thing i said ma'am every man from bear island is worth 60 of
Starting point is 00:19:50 you suburbs just remember that and i walked away with my caterades just laughing and it made my whole day she was steaming red her face was so red trying to figure out what the fuck bear island was but she was she was so mad about that shirt she's like north remembers huh oh i see how it is texas is a great place i like water burger i like the uh the environment i like uh i like the way the the landscape looks their geology is even cool they've they've got actual rocks here we've only got like granite here in georgia but uh the people sometimes can uh can can surprise you a little bit with uh the way they see things she wasn't a game of thrones man i guess you don't have hbo there
Starting point is 00:20:30 texas though like you can find the you know south will rise again kind of folks and then you can go to austin and it's just phenomenally liberal like so far left lean like they have everything in texas like it's just i don't know it just seems like when people who live further north characterize it it's always by those people instead of most of them like of course in houston it's a lot of fat people that's true like even more so than other cities if you walk around houston there's a noticeable difference i feel like have you been to houston recently yeah uh the day it sucked to houston unexpectedly because there's a huge pull there yeah the fatties like a high concentrate of
Starting point is 00:21:11 gravity concentration of gravity there uh-huh so i landed in austin and as soon as i landed i'm like on reddit and i'm like oh there's a shooting on 6th street like like four people shot by this guy like randomly shot into a crowd of women, apparently, and killed one of them. Like, wow, that's fucked up. And then the hot air balloon thing just had happened there, too. And I was like, wow. These are bad omens. These are bad omens, because I'm going to do all this explosives
Starting point is 00:21:35 work. I'm just thinking, like, every step of the way. My plane ticket was 13A, you know? Just little omens like that every step of the way. i was a little worried i wasn't gonna come back from this trip actually i went to dallas one time for quake con for a few days and i had i i grew up i hadn't done much traveling at that point i grew up in northern california and in northern california it's a little bit snobby like kind of pretentious some
Starting point is 00:22:01 people are pretentious but there's like a pride that there's like a there's like a pride of northern californians where it's like we're so much more laid back than ever like that is accurate when people make that stereotype so going into texas i had all these preconceived notions but you can find silver lining in these these places that get a bad rap because what i definitely it was just that one one shithead gas station attendant like there's a shitty gas station attendant just right down the road from me i I can't go to that gas station anymore. Something about Texans that's fucking annoying, they let you know immediately, within, like, two lines of meeting them,
Starting point is 00:22:32 that they're from Texas. Like, that's the same thing, California, Texas, and New York. Anyone from one of those three states, you could say, hey, do you have the time? Ah, in fucking New York right now, it's 4 o'clock, but it's only 2 here in your bullshit Central Time, or whatever they would say. They always bring that back.
Starting point is 00:22:48 When people from Jersey, we keep that on the down low for a long time. We don't have those native New Jersey in the plate. What I was going to say about Texas is a couple things that I really liked about Texas is that the food was really good and the people were
Starting point is 00:23:03 so nice. It was such a culture shock to go into a restaurant and have strangers making conversation with you, the waitress making conversation with you, everyone talking to you, asking you where you're from. It's not just a quick little, hey, how are you? Boom, you're done. They make conversation down there.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I found that super refreshing. When you live in certain spots in California, everybody tends to keep their head down, not talk to each so now i'm sure there are a bunch of shitheads in texas like it's like that all over but yeah but no but i did find some really really nice hospitable people when i was there yeah and texas is such an enormous freaking state that like to even generalize texas is like well you're talking about like, I don't know, one-tenth of the contiguous United States at least, right? It's huge.
Starting point is 00:23:48 It's freaking huge. We use this language when we talk about each other. And we use this language that's overly simplified because that's how we have to, like, that's the only efficient way to communicate is by generalizing and stereotyping people. But, you know, you take a look at like the political climate now for example you have one side screaming at the other side and you have the like really specific insults like you're a racist you're a fascist you're this you're that and then on the other side it's you're an idiot you're lazy you're looking for a handout and that's the only way
Starting point is 00:24:18 that's the only way we our little our little mind and a Yeah. That's a great one. I hate that one so much, man. You hate that one? I hate that one so much. Like, I hated it more. Now I think it's funny. Like, if someone calls me Cuck, I laugh every time. Because I know that, like, most of the time they're being serious. They think it's a serious insult to call me that.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Whatever. But, yeah, it used to piss me off. Cuck to me is so far off target that it bothers me less. Like if they called me like clown shoes or something, I'd be like, that one doesn't really hit home. You know, I don't wear clown shoes at all. It comes from this idea that like some people, and I'm not saying you guys feel that, some people think that if you speak up for social justice or women's rights or whatever it makes you some people think that the primary motivating factor in that thing is that you're trying to get a hand job and i think
Starting point is 00:25:15 that that's a really unfair character characterization of of people that sort of like certainly some people are typing out feminist stuff on twitter to look good to girls but some people actually believe it. Yeah, yeah. I think they're really trying to focus on that really specific group of beta males that they feel like are, oh, let me defend you, m'lady. Let me come in here and white knight this. A girl makes a Facebook post. All guys are dogs, and he's the first one in there.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Woof, woof. Yes, we are. You see that too man you see and that behavior that behavior is stupid it's it's question worthy it's very cringeworthy you see it all the time I got called out for white knighting about two months ago I don't we didn't really talk about on this show but but here's what happened chaos silencer started the new series and this was the first video of the series so I didn't really have a it on this show, but here's what happened. Chaos Silencer started a new series, and this was the first video of the series, so I didn't really have a flavor for what it was. And it was like, I forget the name. I'm going to get the name wrong, but it was something like Notable Moments in COD History. Am I saying it wrong?
Starting point is 00:26:18 You're talking about Unsilenced? No, no, no. This was on his main channel. It was actually before Chaos Unsilenced. And it was something to do with, like, great moments in COD history. And the first one he brought up was the 1v1 that Wings lost against Syndicate. And, yeah. And I was like, man.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I love Taylor's immediate reaction. Yeah, that was the first video he made in the series. So I, perhaps, it turns out wrongly, assumed that the whole thing was going to be like one sore spot after another. Like one embarrassing moment followed by the next. And I was like, and in the comment, I'm going to try and get it right. It was something like, hey, man, you know, it's great to see. I hadn't kept up with him. He's over a million subs now.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And I was going for a compliment. I heard through people that it came off like an insult, but I was like, it's really cool to see like what used to be the JV team now leading varsity, you know, like he's guys got a million subs. He's doing all these, you know, he's doing great on YouTube. And I was like, but I feel like the, the idea behind this series might be a little mean spirited. You know, I know that wings doesn't like it when we talk about this. And now there's a whole video devoted to it. And, uh And I got blasted for white knighting. And my first response was like, what?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Me? White knight? Like, you couldn't be further from the truth. And then I processed it. And I was like, yeah, totally guilty of that. I wasn't white knighting, though, because you weren't trying to get laid. That's what you think. Okay. All right. igniting though because you weren't trying to get laid that's what you think okay all right yeah yeah i was trying to show here pick a killer already yeah yeah but i was i guess i was defending wings and and saying like hey the idea for this series is is mean-spirited
Starting point is 00:28:01 it turns out i i forget whatever i i i looked at the titles, and the next three of them weren't mean-spirited at all. It just got off to a source. I don't think of it as white knighting too bad. What I think of as white... There are, like Hutch said, a lot of people out there who just really think they're saying the right things and that they're being supportive.
Starting point is 00:28:19 What's white knighty and just embarrassing, and people should not call them cucks. They should just leave comments like, holy shit, that was hard to read. This is humiliating. You should be humiliated. It's when people apologize. And it's always white men because those are the two groups that aren't bad to be a part of. You know, oh, I'm so sorry for, on behalf of men, let me just tell you that you're a hundred percent right and we're
Starting point is 00:28:46 just a bunch of dumb apes and it's just it's so just so blatantly pandering and pathetic where it's like do you think this makes that woman respect you more no it makes her kind of resent you because now you're co-opting that little bit of hatred that she had toward a group and not letting her use it against you and so she's going to resent you for it like that the people you're appealing to in the first place with that kind of statement aren't aren't people you're going to convince like i think a little i think a little bit of white guilt is okay even healthy but like if you live in white guilt i i'm not i'm not here's the thing though like i'm i'm honest with myself like i'm not saying that you guys aren't and you guys know your truths and everything like that but like yeah there's some guilt there and and that but that doesn't make me
Starting point is 00:29:28 that doesn't make me a beta or a cuck to acknowledge uh my predecessor like i i like my my ancestors owned slaves and when i think about that i'm like do you think mine didn't oh i know they did like we we did a family tree and we figured you figured it out you did checked the books yeah oh i actually and and it's like something anyways that's a whole different topic but like no no that was interesting so it was something like no i i don't know that the only thing i know is that they were slave on the slave owners they uh i don't know if they owned a plantation or something like that i figured my family would have been a much more but yeah maybe something like that i'm not sure but but they maybe something like that. I'm not sure. What did Kyle say?
Starting point is 00:30:06 A sale barn. The Hutchinsons were probably like principal offenders. They were the ones bringing the Africans in and literally putting the chains on them and dragging them out and bidding, auctioning them off. Those are the Hutchinsons, I bet. I've never looked back. I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. Not just to know.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I'm not going to do that. It's not me. I think it's okay to acknowledge that you have it a little bit easier than some groups. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't agree. I don't agree. Here's my thing, right? For starters, on the has my family ever owned slaves on my father's side it's really clear because both of his parents
Starting point is 00:30:49 were immigrants and he was a first generation american so innocent on my mother's side we don't really know the history there i i like i'm not maybe maybe not probably not because i heard like one percent of people own slaves but i've never owned a slave and you've never picked any cotton so let's move on like that that's my thought process on this thing and uh well it's a weird a false equivalency of you know like if you know your ancestors owned slaves i still don't think that the sins of the father should somehow you know indict the son that that seems as inherently unfair but like what how would you say to like like my family i know we came here after that like they were in and you know sicilians people from italy they they were treated fine i guess not great right away not but like i don't we know the
Starting point is 00:31:38 truth about you people just so you know like like me and woody like we don't talk about it much but we know what you Sicilians really are. We'll keep an eye on you. Do you trust other groups of people when they come forward and say, hey, listen, we're having a hard time in this society around this one thing, and we think
Starting point is 00:31:57 you guys are getting maybe preferential treatment. Can you take a look at that? Would you trust a group of people and honor and respect their point of view, or do you immediately dismiss it and say, you're fine, there's no glass ceiling. Oh, I'd love to see evidence.
Starting point is 00:32:16 That's my thing. What I don't want to hear is a lot of broad generalizations like, oh, it's so hard for me. I have to wake up in the morning and go work hard, and then sometimes things don't go my way and people treat me i it seems that people are treating me unfairly and i'm like yeah that happens to me every fucking day yeah that's life but if they're like look at these statistics look at the look how this guy was treated versus how that guy was treated i'm like
Starting point is 00:32:38 oh you got a fucking that's right yeah let's get to the bottom of this like i'm not blind to that there are differences in society, but I don't want to take any of the blame for it. I'm not saying that you yourself should necessarily feel guilty. When I talked about white guilt, when I think about white guilt, it's more of an acknowledgement that other people have a hard time because they're not white. And I think it's okay to acknowledge that.
Starting point is 00:33:03 I also think that you're right too, Kyle. mean like in hockey you need to you need to sure yeah hockey whatever you need it back like you should ideally there would be some facts or statistics or some like body of evidence or data to help support your claim and to help other people understand why maybe you're a little bit i don't want to say disadvantaged but you have a little bit harder of a time in this country than other people and of course there's also the argument where it's like we'll now compare the united states to saudi arabia and then compare and then try and complain about this other stuff here but that argument doesn't really like hold a lot of water that's the same thing well the method to go forward with it is like what you're saying like i don't immediately
Starting point is 00:33:41 give respect and credence to an argument that i hear like i'd like to know more about it but you know if they feel like it's not like a perfect example like institutionalized racism is a ridiculous buzzword like every unless you're a real racist then you you really would like to get rid of racism so like show me what institution is racist like let's say there's a racist university that only lets white people in you know that's a racist institution that shouldn't be allowed show me a golf course that's an institution that isn't allowing jewish people and black people we need to fix that or do whatever needs to be done but then that brings the whole argument of should you be able to tell a private business in a free market
Starting point is 00:34:20 what happens is nobody want no sponsors want their balls to be used at that racist golf club nobody wants to put their tournament at that golf club the white guys are like i can't be seen at three rivers anymore or like a white rivers anymore because you know you know like like my my boss is puerto rican like like how would it look if i were up there golfing with all those whiteys and he has to go to the you know the public club that's bullshit thing for me is like i feel like i've i've been around right i've worked in fortune 500 companies mid-sized companies with a thousand employees and tiny companies and i've never seen the racism i've been in hiring positions and i haven't seen the racism i hang on yeah you have yeah you have i have in that only guys got hired dude they would only by the time I was hiring, only Indian resumes got to me.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Can I interject and say, how would you know that I want to be careful because I don't want to say that I think that black people can't be racist or Mexicans I'm not saying that only white people can be racist, but how do you know what you're looking for if you've never even had that experience in
Starting point is 00:35:28 the first place so like you might not even know what to look for when people describe their experiences with racism and your mind might not be able to connect with that and so that your first instinct might be to say well that's obviously not racism because i don't understand it but unless you've lived your whole life in the shoes of people from all over these places that come into the country, it's really hard for us to say. It's not to say that white people are incapable of observation. You know, we're not dumb. We can see what's in front of us just like everybody else. But it's just a really awkward time in our country's history, man.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I think this facade of unity is really kind of wearing off. think this facade of unity is really kind of wearing off like something story that we all told each other about how you know all this stuff had been eradicated and there was just so much unity and remember after 9-11 how patriotic everyone was and how everybody was red white and blue that's understandable as horrible as that was don't you i mean i we're all the perfect age to remember that and to remember it well you know all of us remember that well it just seemed like everybody really came together and it was a really cohesive time and what we did with that cohesiveness was terrible in a lot of regards with in regards to iraq you know imagine if we'd taken
Starting point is 00:36:35 that cohesiveness and then like and like upped our infrastructure or like took that trillion dollars and pumped it in like like hey free college for three generations let's just do that america's gonna be this yeah any of those things the see the thing they have we've talked about like you know whether or not i see racism what i see and that i really dislike is this what we've been calling the victim olympics right you know i worked in a place and i see you know black guys get ahead not get ahead etc and it like, yeah, that kind of matches their performance. I would say that this is a colorblind promotion process. And on the other hand, I see a lot of people saying, I'm not getting ahead. Therefore, I'm a victim.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And that I hate. I would much rather have an attitude of, huh, how can I smash this down? How can I improve this? How can I succeed? And that's not what I get much you do just as much damage to someone's psyche convincing them that someone else is oppressing them as you do
Starting point is 00:37:32 by actually oppressing when they're actually not as you would by actually oppressing them I think in some regards because you get used to this idea of some outside influencing the soft racism of low expectations right, that's what we're talking... The soft racism of low expectations. Right? That's what we're talking about. The soft racism
Starting point is 00:37:48 of low expectations. When you say, hey, it's not your fault, man. Of course you're doing poorly in school. You're black. You know? C's are good for you. That is racist. Anton Antonin Scalia? What was
Starting point is 00:38:02 his first name? Antonin Scalia, right? I believe that's correct. Shortly before he died he came out actually and remember that horribly racist shit he's like this is what I don't remember this is what like when you said a moment ago Taylor you said that you don't believe in institutional racism it's become like a bite word or something that the pun yeah you have to state the institution in order to be helpful. Otherwise, it's just nebulous and you can't nail anything down. Sure, but then... Okay, all right, never mind.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I misunderstood what you said. But you had Antonin Scalia saying that, of course, black people are doing poor in these nice schools. We shouldn't be contributing to them raising their expectations for themselves. Let's just recognize where black people are at academically and put them in their proper universities. We shouldn't be focusing on diversifying these prestigious institutions.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And of course, people came out and they were just like, dude, what? What are you talking about? There's no evidence to suggest that black people are less capable than white people. Yeah, of course. When you look at a Supreme Court justice saying something like that, it's really hard for me to say. There's no such thing as institutional racism. On the upside, he's dead.
Starting point is 00:39:13 He's dead, yes. It's true. Yeah, so that guy, he was not my favorite justice. Not a very progressive guy, no. Hey, are you pro-Hillary on this thing? Where are you, Hutch? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I mean, that's about, like, my response right there is probably about the norm when it comes to... Yeah, right? I... It's... I feel like... I will... Yeah. I feel like...
Starting point is 00:39:37 I'll support her indirectly by... It's like if your girlfriend comes in and goes, you want a handshake? And you're like, yeah. It's better than nothing. It's better than nothing, you want a handjob? And you're like, yeah. It's better than nothing. It's better than nothing, you know. Is it, though? Wouldn't you honestly? All right, so the choice, it seems like a binary choice.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And I've said a couple times, I'd go Gary Johnson if Hillary weren't running. And that's just how I lean. Not because of any of the social stuff, though. It's the other shit. It's a whole thing. But I think I would actually vote. of any of the social stuff, though. It's the other shit. It's a whole thing. But I think I would actually vote, and I think most people would,
Starting point is 00:40:09 for, like, I don't know, two or three guys who have to agree. I'm tired of this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we should have, like, a three-headed dragon running things. Let's try that out for a while. Sure. I don't know about that. I don't want some, like, evil conclave leading the on clay about leading the country what if you did all three of
Starting point is 00:40:28 them what if what if you had it was Trump Hillary and Gary Johnson and they had to agree two out of three had to agree on something for it to happen that's better than in a terrible idea actually that would be good like nothing would get done it's like what you have now between the uh yeah executive senate and yeah imagine the desk chair like trump's sitting in the middle hillary's on one side and and gary johnson on the right and they're just like looking at each other like state of the union addresses and stuff they're all up there they're just trying to get in the middle nothing to kill her out for camera time to finish kyle's analogy like it's like your girlfriend opens the door and says hey you want a hand job hillary clinton or the mystery package i don't know she
Starting point is 00:41:11 might have aids it might just be a monkey he's gonna go straight for your balls that's door number three donald trump i think i would be a hand job you know if if the balance if the scales were tipped a little bit more in in terms of equality uh with regards or with respect to uh campaign financing like if the green party had more money if the libertarian party had more money this would actually be a race but it just there's just no chance that they can win and like 18 year old self like ral Ralph Nader supporting Ron Paul supporter that sort of stuff fuck the system vote for the third party
Starting point is 00:41:50 and as a 33 year old man now I just don't isn't 18 year old self hilarious and stupid mine is I know that not very hilarious very stupid you're talking about like picking the out guy isn't Trump the most out guy you know like isn't trump
Starting point is 00:42:06 the most out guy in politics ever to run like just nothing else about him at all just the yeah i think so yeah i would agree with that but but that that characteristic alone doesn't mean anything like outside of the establishment that could mean a thousand different things. Reagan was a Hollywood actor. Yeah, exactly. He was super outside. Only one example. And he kind of represented the same sort of anti-establishment because he ran against Ford
Starting point is 00:42:37 at one point, I think, and lost. Did he run against Nixon? Ford was in the primaries with him or whatever. And I think he offered his VP to Ford at one point. But he was running against Nixon, right? Yeah, Nixon got impeached or he resigned because of Watergate. And then Ford took over.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And then I think Reagan beat Ford in the primary after that. No, that's not true. I don't know how it worked out. He beat Carter for the presidency the first time. Yeah. He is a super outsider, but when I see Trump appealing to Bernie fans, I
Starting point is 00:43:14 just find it so adorable and just kind of cute. I think he does appeal to a certain percentage of them. He's not saying, he doesn't think he's going to lasso 100% of them, but if he can get 30% of them to sit in and say to them Hey, look, you've been disenfranchised. You've been misrepresented. You've been lied to every step of the way at least over here You're still getting an outsider candidate who has who doesn't like the system. I'm anti the system
Starting point is 00:43:41 No, I probably don't feel this lean the same way as you on social issues or overseas issues. Like anything. Trump doesn't talk about abortion or gay marriage because I really don't think he has a problem with it. He's spoke out in favor of those things in the past. Perfect. So Trump lies so much that he is water that will form the shape of any bucket you want to put him in. He'll tell you he's pro-life. He'll tell you he's pro-choice.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Here in North Carolina, we have that HB2 thing. It's kind of a big deal. And probably national news, but especially local. And Trump has come out and said, oh, HB2 is terrible and lets Caitlyn Jenner use the bathroom at Trump Plaza. Now he's for HB2. He'll be fucking anything. So that's point one. Trump has lied about every position or taken both sides of it.
Starting point is 00:44:32 You're free to choose any quote you want. The second one is this. He lies so much that normally this is a problem. And I forget who said it first. It might have been Bill Murr or Caldera or something. But he was like, normally, if you lay down on a nail, that's a big problem. Oh, that's John Oliver, yeah. Was it John Oliver?
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yeah, yeah. And that nail punctures your lung and you've got big issues. If you lay down on a bed of nails, then it's really not that big of a deal. And that's Trump. Trump gaffes every day. Every day. He'll do six of them. And a lot of his gaffes are not important.
Starting point is 00:45:04 But the fact that he's doing them so much is important. What's even more important is what came out recently where he asked three separate times in one hour with military advisors why we're not using nuclear weapons. I think at that point, if that doesn't disqualify him as a candidate for you. Well, let's be clear. Are you talking about ICBMs or are you talking about maybe some mini nukes we can shoot from artillery pieces? I'm up to speed on this one.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I think the way I heard it is what he actually said is, if we have them, why can't we use them? That's what he asked. And it was two or three times in an hour. And without knowing the context policy would never ask that question though they would never ask that question because they're enough of an outsider because the thing about trump is like if i had to pick between trump or hillary i'm gonna vote trump a hundred percent of the time because no more fucking clintons no more fucking bushes i don't want this almost like this pseudoqueen thing we have going on with the same fucking families.
Starting point is 00:46:06 But he's just an idiot. Trump should be winning at this point. He's had so many opportunities to strike and every time he misses the mark. What I saw today is that he was down. I don't really care about that, but I'm saying he should be beating her.
Starting point is 00:46:22 She's the most fucking corrupt politician to ever run. Literally a felon. Comes out on news all the time and will... You could say literally a felon. She's a felon. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what felon she can be. She should be charged with a felony. I don't know if literally a felon is...
Starting point is 00:46:36 Okay, there you go. She should be charged with a felony. She committed a felony. There you go. That's true. She committed a felony. And... She did. That's not what the head of the FBI said. The head of the FBI said that anybody else in the organization would have been punished if they had done the same thing. He was clear about that.
Starting point is 00:46:55 But he also said there's no precedent for this, and any prosecutor would take a look at the evidence, decide there wasn't criminal intent, and move on. That doesn't mean she should go to jail. Should she have been reprimanded? Sure. I agree with that. I'm not going to defend Hillary's ineptitude on some levels. Don't ask me to be enthusiastic about my candidate, but what baffles me is when I see enthusiasm for Trump.
Starting point is 00:47:20 That's the thing. I can understand lesser of two evil evil and i can understand a lot of other things too but i have a hard time understanding it you're from california don't you want a wall because a lot of people probably think i'm you know in the tank for trump like it's what hutch said the lesser of two evils if it were anyone else but hillary i'd probably you know i'm still pretty conservative so i'd probably just abstain from voting. But Trump himself is a boob and an idiot. And I don't want him to lead this
Starting point is 00:47:50 country as much as, you know, some people on the alt-right really think it's a good idea and that he's really gonna change shit and he's gonna really build a wall. He's not gonna build a wall. He might build that wall. I think you need to... Look, look, I think he's... Look, I agree with everything you've said so far
Starting point is 00:48:05 But he might build that wall He's so not building a wall There's no wall going He's not going to deport any Muslims Well, he never seems to deport them I think he's going to build that wall Well, he said not deport Muslims But he did talk about deporting
Starting point is 00:48:20 Like forming a task force And deporting all illegal aliens With like a 90 day window or something like that as soon as he takes office. Just absurd claims and when you measure the cost of life that would happen and the inhumanity that would go along with something that... Like, imagine what that would look like. And if you support that... And the SS going door to door, bring out your Jews! Hard not to label someone a sociopath if they're going to support something like that. You got any brownies in there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:49 There's a middle ground there. There is a serious problem of border security that needs to be addressed. But there's also a middle ground between that and, oh, we're going to give it from fucking January, February, and March. January, February, and March. And by then, you know, tens of millions of people will just be back in Mexico to live forever because they had a great time there before, which is why they came here. Like, it just doesn't, it's illogical on every level.
Starting point is 00:49:13 But it's just such a bad decision between these two. I don't favor open borders or anything like that, but just, but the anti-immigrant, did you guys see the, they came out, there was a New York Times or New York Post. These reporters went undercover at Trump rallies
Starting point is 00:49:30 all over across the country and just recorded people in the crowd. Did you guys see that video? Yeah, I saw that. Is he the one that held up the sign of the opposing party? No. This is a video that just came out yesterday or the day before. And it just gives you samples of the kind of racist, hateful shit that you hear at these rallies.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Now, hang on. So I've been to one of those rallies. I went to see the shit show, and I really enjoyed it. I heard about that. I wanted to ask you about that too. So, yeah. Look, it was right in the middle of the Trump fever, and I was like, I've got to go see this shit. This seems so entertaining because we're watching these rallies on YouTube
Starting point is 00:50:06 and stuff. I almost went too in California just out of curiosity because I wanted to be a witness to that. Me and my girlfriend, we drove up to Hickory, North Carolina, spent the night overnight because the doors open at like 8am and we got in line at 5.30am or something like that
Starting point is 00:50:22 and there was a line of 100 people in front of us. 5.30am? Yeah. or something like that. And there was a line of 100 people in front of us. 5.30 a.m.? Yeah, like it's nighttime. It's nighttime. Like you're hunting. Yeah, we're drinking Starbucks standing in line. And the entertainment started then, and it didn't stop until noon
Starting point is 00:50:36 because the protesters were showing up, the Trump supporters were there, and the t-shirt button salesmen were coming around with wagons full of stuff let me ask you something can i ask you something yeah did you did you hear people screaming racial slurs did you see people nothing you know you didn't hear anything i swear to god nothing the closest thing that could be construed as racism was there was about a 65 year old white guy in the front row wearing an enormous decorative sombrero,
Starting point is 00:51:06 the kind you see mariachis wear, and it just said Trump on it. It had a big Trump sticker stuck to it. That was the closest thing. I want to say that I'm not asking that because I think all Trump, not even close to all Trump supporters are racist because I don't believe that that's true,
Starting point is 00:51:20 but I do believe that he attracts a certain extreme subset of racists. I think that's definitely fair. That feel emboldened by his language. Now, they had that reverence up there. Trump has this black pastor, pastor something or another. I don't know. He's this big, heavy-set black guy who's very conservative. He spoke at the convention with screaming,
Starting point is 00:51:44 All lives matter! Yeah, yeah. black guy who's very conservative conventions he spoke at the convention was screaming all lives matter yeah yeah so that guy came out and he like fired the crowd up before trump came because fog had delayed trump force one from landing in time so we've been sitting there in like an auditorium packed to the gills for like an hour and a half like they got some chick from american idol out there singing songs just she's just like, you guys like Bob Dylan? She's just like winging it. And Pastor whatever comes out, and he really starts getting everybody fired up. He's firing brimstone, kind of like black preacher.
Starting point is 00:52:14 He's great. He's a good motivational speaker. But then he goes, Bernie Sanders don't even believe in God. Y'all know that? Bernie Sanders don't even believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. And Hillary. Hillary. Oh, no, no, no, no Hillary. Let me hear. No Clinton. And the crowd goes, no Clintons. You sound like Michael Scott from The Office impersonating Chris Rock. You sound like Michael Scott from The Office impersonating Chris Rock. A black man! A black man!
Starting point is 00:52:54 Well, yeah, no, but in this video, man, you can hear some... It's not the fact that these people exist that really bothered me. In the video, you don't see anyone saying anything to him. You had a dude screaming out... I don't know if I can say... Can you bleep it out maybe or something? You can say whatever you want honestly. There was a guy Trump said something. He started
Starting point is 00:53:12 screaming and then he says DePore them all. Get those fucking beaners out of here. No shit. No one around him said anything. That's what I don't understand. I could never imagine going to a Bernie rally or a Hillary rally or anywhere on the left and saying something like that without everyone in the area turning in on that person and
Starting point is 00:53:31 collectively shaming them. Well, I don't know because like, did you see the one with Skillrex and that, what was, Kyle, what are the two guys' names? They became a meme. There was like Aid Skillrex and Carl the Cuck, right? Skrillex. Skrillex, my bad. I'm not hip yeah long black skinny yeah yeah do you know this video that I'm talking about hutch oh so alright so there's a there's a Trump supporter and the Trump supporter is like the perfect Trump
Starting point is 00:53:56 supporter I think he's dressed in like a lumberjack flannel he's handsome he has a beard he just looks like a man's man. He's reasonable, kind of calm, and he's asking, hey, what is Bernie's plan for dealing with ISIS, for example? They screech back at him, you're fucking a white male, right? Yeah, yeah. I'm with you on that one. Okay, yeah. There are a lot of people in Bernie's camp that act reprehensibly,
Starting point is 00:54:23 and I was embarrassed. I think I'm a pretty proud liberal in a lot of people in Bernie's camp that act reprehensibly, and I was embarrassed. I think I'm a pretty proud liberal in a lot of ways. I would say I'm conservative in some respects, but I'm pretty proud. What were we just talking about? The cuck guy, the reprehensible behavior on both sides. So, yeah. So, like, when you see that sort of behavior, it's like, what can you do? You know, like that many people, when there's like 50 to 100 people, some of them are paid.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Outliers. Some of them are paid to be there. They're not even there protesting out of their house. Someone paid them to be there. I'm glad you said that. It's really hard to police that sort of thing. But if it's one guy in a crowd screaming fucking beaners and shit, I was really just – and it wasn't the only thing, man.
Starting point is 00:55:06 You had people wearing shirts saying fuck Islam and all this other stuff. Did you say anything to them? Did I or would I? He saw it on video. Did you approach the guy and say, that's not cool? This is a video he saw on video. Oh, this isn't... I thought you were talking about
Starting point is 00:55:21 how you were at. So I saw that video too and my first thought was obviously there's outliers in every subset. They're the guys who are to the far right of the far right. I'm somewhere in the middle, I think. I classify myself as a libertarian. I don't vote libertarian because I'm a realist at the same time. You sound like a libertarian too. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:43 That's a compliment. I took it as one and so the the way i see it is just that there so there's these guys on the outside there's the racist shit bag who's gonna scream racist slurs and there's there's the guy who's gonna scream ah you you don't even have an opinion you're a white male so those those guys are there but you also mentioned the the paid protesters and i definitely have seen the evidence of, because it's photographic evidence, that you would have the same guys who are, like, anti-Trump protesters that'll be at an anti-Trump thing will then go to a Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton rally, but then, like, put on their, like, disguise
Starting point is 00:56:16 like they're a Trump supporter and do something really bad. You know, do something obnoxious, scream a racial slur, just to sort of smear his campaign. So I figure it's a—when I see that video, I figure it's a coin flip as to whether it's. Those videos as a whole, like. You think it's 50-50? Dude, I think. I don't know either. There's nothing like, I think it's actually, those videos are the best way to make yourself
Starting point is 00:56:39 feel like you're 100% right, are the ones where it's like, check out all these interviews from people at Bernie rallies, or check out all these interviews from people at Trump rallies, because they're going through, and if they see a guy and they go, hey, why are you a big fan of Bernie Sanders? And they're like, well, I think this specific part of his plan in regard to X, Y, and Z is really based in historical fact, and we have a good chance of that being, they're not going to use that. They're going to use, why do you like him?
Starting point is 00:57:02 I don't know, free stuff and weed, man. And then if they go to they're going to use why do you like him i don't know free stuff in weed man and then if they go to trump and they go why do you like him and he goes well that's anti-establishment i'm really tired of this borderline monarchy we have going on with the clintons and the bushes they're not going to use that they're going to wait for the guy who's shitty because they all have an agenda when i worry about the editing too when i was at the trump rally standing in line um for them I would describe the the crowd as like a Sunday afternoon church crowd like by their dress and demeanor like like being like I don't go to church anymore but as a kid I went and everybody's wearing polos like button-ups or like khakis and it seems like uh they all just got off from church or something and they're
Starting point is 00:57:39 well-dressed I saw a guy wearing suits and ties and then there's casual dress too there's t-shirts and jeans and stuff like that but there was this one guy who was right behind us. He's maybe at 200 pounds overweight. He's wearing bib overalls with a dirty shirt underneath. He's got some sort of a skin disease, so that it's very peely and flaky and very bright red in places. His ears are peeling and hair's coming out of him. He's a very gross guy, and he's so out of shape that we're standing in line all morning, like three and a half, four hours, and he had to sit down literally in the gutter,
Starting point is 00:58:10 and he was just like, just remember, I'm behind you. And I was like, cool, man. Yeah, yeah, cool. And he is the one they pulled out of that crowd to interview. The camera crew, she's walking around with her microphone. She's just like, respectable, respectable, respectable respectable that guy probably even went to a college oh you sir in the gutter come over here we want to be on live television and i was i looked at my girlfriend like i certainly don't want to be on live television but i've got a paragraph in my
Starting point is 00:58:38 in my head right now in case they happen to bring the camera over to me so they don't look like a boob because by standing here i'm making some sort of a statement in general, I suppose, if you were to see me on camera. So I might as well say something intelligent while I'm here. I'm not going to look like a dumbass. But he got up and he was just like, Well, I want to say hey to Karen first. Hey, baby girl.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Ha ha. Trump 2016. All right. It was like it was WrestleMania or something. And I want everybody to know that the Undertaker and Trump is going into Wrestlemania and they are coming out victorious Trump Undertaker 2016
Starting point is 00:59:11 that's what I want to see hell yeah and you're just like oh god why did they pick that guy so you know same way like respectable Bernie supporters at rallies probably felt when they were looking around and they saw you know Dreadlock mcpothead over there with this big hat with a pot leaf on it and he just reeks and he's got a way too big
Starting point is 00:59:30 a t-shirt on and they interview him instead you know like that's they all go into it with a little plan to smear him like those i've never watched a video that was on my anytime i watch one of those compilations of interviews that's from my side of the fence so further to the right i'm always like haha fools i have it all figured out you know like that's what it's meant to do it's meant to confirm that you're already correct my uh my reaction to a lot of the articles and social media posts and news media outlet stories my reaction to that has given me a lot of insight into my personality this election season because it's so easy to fall into those traps. Those YouTube montage videos of all your hated candidates' worst moments.
Starting point is 01:00:13 It's so easy just to sit there and bask in the self-righteous indignation. I've spent hours doing that. I take it lightly. That's the West way. I do that now. It's like masturbation like i give myself like five or ten minutes and then i will i will set a cutoff point where i'm like i'm done otherwise i'm just gonna sit there watching the same thing let me ask you this did you because so so maybe
Starting point is 01:00:35 maybe because of your your standpoints and and you know your basic knowledge of anything watching trump at this point could be painful for you you could even be like what is this bullshit I can't believe this but was there did you find him entertaining when he was doing all those hijinks to conservatives when he was making Jeb Bush look bad when he was making Chris Christie look bad um no
Starting point is 01:01:00 I can't say like I some stuff I got a kick out of it I got a kick out of it. Some stuff, well, I got a kick out of it. Some stuff made me laugh. So to answer your question, like, literally, yeah. But it wasn't like a laugh like, this is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:01:17 This is a laugh like, this is absurd. Like, I watched every single Republican. That's a laugh. I watched every single Republican presidential debate. I watched those debates more intently than i did the uh the democratic debates and uh when i watched all the name calling and stuff going on like the the biggest thought that i had was like okay this is good for ratings and yeah it's kind of funny to watch it all happen and sure as a liberal it's kind of gratifying to see the gop sort of implode. Not imploding, but like, yeah, potentially imploding.
Starting point is 01:01:47 But then when I really think about it and take a look at it, all I can think is he's really dragging this process down. Like other people have to get down at his level. Marco Rubio tried to do it, and then a month later, it's like he's like, he probably, yeah, he fucked up, man. Like he might have really hurt his chances in 2020 doing that. But he had no choice. He couldn't have even competed if he didn't talk like that.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And when I saw him sticking up to Donald Trump, I thought to myself, I'm like, good for you, man. Fuck that guy. Maybe it's just the liberal side of me looking for news that reinforces your own opinions. But the Democratic debates were all about policy. It was so much policy talk, tax talk, minimum wage talk. news that reinforces your own opinions. But the Democratic debates were all about policy. It was so much policy talk, tax talk, minimum wage talk, globalization talk. And then you go to the Republican debates,
Starting point is 01:02:33 and it was all about who can alpha who. My takeaway was whose hands were bigger, whose dick was bigger. And not to say that that was the only thing they talked about, but god, so much of it was like, hey, this that guy this guy's a carnival clown this guy is this i don't know the republican debates were a popularity contest and the democratic debates were a rigged policy contest yeah so it was i mean with the democratic debates democracy really it didn't matter at all what happened like bernie could have massacred her every single time same result like i would be fucking i haven't watched them all so that could be the case i haven't they'd have fucking
Starting point is 01:03:17 assassinated bernie if he had actually been been getting to the heat of mysteriously had a heart attack or a stroke and he'd be fucking writing on a blackboard to communicate i don't think so if that was going to happen it would happen to trump already because he's i think he's more of a disruptor than bernie was fair point yeah i don't know the clintons seem more likely to rub somebody out than the bushes yeah if you're into conspiracy theories from like right wing blogs but like bernie's bernie's um i write three of them i i i uh yeah the whole um yeah the democratic debates were really difficult to watch too because it felt like from the outside watching in that she was just getting crushed but she has so much money and resources that there's just no competing with it and then when you have the head of the DNC that just so clearly
Starting point is 01:04:07 Is biased in favor? Just ahead as three more people out of the DNC Hillary's like, ah, you know you were my fall gal So yeah, not a new position in my Three more people out of the DNC who just resigned in shame, right? So it's not like it's just Debbie Wasserman Schultz. It really went down the list. In particular, the guy who brought into question Bernie's atheism or alleged atheism, he's out. They were going to bring up that he was Jewish?
Starting point is 01:04:36 No, no, no. He's not Jewish. Well, he's ethnically Jewish, but religiously he's an atheist, or at least that's what he sort of hinted at. Probably. He doesn't use the A word. That's not very intelligent if you're in politics and playing a big popularity contest. But he uses that cop out, oh, I'm spiritual.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Let's leave it at that. I'm spiritual. Trump's campaign manager is bringing up Obama's Kenyan descent and asking for his long-form college transcripts again. Oh, I'm glad you brought that up Obama's Kenyan descent and asking for his long form college transcripts again I'm glad you brought that up Is that Manafort? I'm sorry?
Starting point is 01:05:12 Is that Manafort? I need to look it up again He's the manager Some high ranking Trump guy I just watched the White House Correspondents that i just watched the white house correspondence dinner where uh i just watched it last night it's still so fucking funny when obama uh comes out to uh i am a real american and and his his birth certificate is just pulsing on the
Starting point is 01:05:40 not only do i have a long-form birth certificate, but I also have a birth video. Roll the tape. And it's the intro to Lion King. You gotta respect, he's got the gift of gab, man. He's probably got a couple riders, right? Yeah, I'm sure. Obama is gonna go down as a great president. But his delivery
Starting point is 01:06:02 is good. He's an excellent order. He's the best since Reagan and JFK for sure. Obama will go down as one of the better presidents in history. I'm convinced of it. Like right now is the point where people look at him most critically. Give it two and a half years and they're going to look at Obama as, oh, man, I wish we had him back. Now, that's very possible if we don't find anything out about him.
Starting point is 01:06:26 But what if things start being declassified and uncovered and we find out that he did a lot of shady stuff that really exacerbated things overseas and actually spawned ISIS on him and urged the spread of ISIS? What if we find things like that out? Little things like I read today, right?
Starting point is 01:06:42 Remember when our, I think they were sailors were captured or taken into custody by the Iranians, and then they immediately turned them over to us, right? Remember this? Well, it turned out Obama paid $400 million ransom for them, but he didn't use U.S. currency because that's against the law. It's funny. This is what happens when you get your news from the Donalds. Okay, well, then tell me the truth. What actually happened? Hutch, do you want to go?
Starting point is 01:07:07 Do you want me to go? You go ahead, Woody. So in the 1970s, way back in the 1970s, the United States was going to sell arms to Iran, and then we just never delivered. They became bad guys to us, and we had an and and just didn't do business with them but we freezed all these accounts or froze all these accounts and just
Starting point is 01:07:30 kept the 400 million dollars well now we're working things out with iran it's a long time later it was more than 400 million it was and plus it was interest they they had gone it was exactly their figure was as high as $10 billion is what – Let me lay this out. So it was $400 million, and then the Iranians are asking for it back with interest. And to them, that's $10 billion now. That's what they're asking for. And the United States was like, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:07:59 We'll take it down to $400 million plus $1.3 billion, so a total of $1 1.7 billion and if you know interest at all like if you do the math we're not giving them very much interest you know that's from the fucking 70s but there was 400 million we just fucking stole that money for them from the 70s to now and that's what happens when you and we paid them back well remember what happened in the 70s with the shah of iran and them taking all those hostages and them not turning them over until jimmy car Jimmy Carter was out of office and Reagan took over and then they shit the bed and gave us our people back. Like, it's not like we just, like, went in, look at those shitty Iranians. Let's take some money from them. All right, so we paid them that money back when, though?
Starting point is 01:08:35 Just recently. I don't even know if they have it yet, but it's, like, just recently. Go ahead, Hatch. That was deliberate. The timing of it was meant to coincide with the release of the hostages as a symbolic gesture. That's part of diplomacy. But they did not pay $400 million for a ransom. They've never done that, I don't think, as a matter of policy. Were they ever planning on paying this money back? They had been talking about it for months. They had been talking about it like- I was just asking. I don't know the story. Yeah, I don't either. So clarify
Starting point is 01:09:05 this for me, Woody. Do you know is it true? Because what I read was that they paid them in euros, right? If so, why would that be? It was like three different currencies, and it's because of sanctions currently against Iran. They can't use American currency.
Starting point is 01:09:23 So they kind of went around the law by using foreign currency i'm i'm i don't know the sanctions are trade sanctions i don't think i don't think that they had anything to do with like their ability to broker an agreement between each other i don't think that that violated any sanctions i don't know what did violate but what it sounds like to me is that is that we were we found a very good excuse to give them a lot of money at the same time we needed to get some soldiers back. Yeah, we've owed them this money since the 70s. Here it is, what, 40 years later now.
Starting point is 01:09:53 And hey, you remember that tab from 40 years ago? Now seems like a good time to pay that off. And it's really interesting because there are a lot of people that think that Obama is undermining our nation's security by trying to repair these fences with countries all over the world. They think that it makes America look bad or have a position of weakness if we have to apologize for dropping nuclear weapons and internment camps and things like that. But I admire that sort of humility. I think it's important that America acknowledge our mistakes along the way. I think we should have dropped the nuclear weapons, though. I don't think that was a mistake at all.
Starting point is 01:10:26 I reserve judgment. I got a whole thing about that because let me just throw these three little facts out there. So the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs killed like less than 100,000 people initially off the bat. And then there's the cancer and the after effects that killed like another 30,000 or so. But if you look at what was done in Dresden, yeah, it's less. If you look at what happened in Dresden and Hamburg and all the firebombings that took place in Germany and in Japan, those firebombings
Starting point is 01:10:52 where we would wait till the weather patterns were just right so that dropping incendiary bombs would create a firestorm. And they wouldn't just drop them at random. They would drop them in very specific locations to create this firestorm that would encircle and consume the city, creating convection air currents that would kill everyone. Killed many, many more people with that. Civilian bombing was just a thing.
Starting point is 01:11:13 No, no, yeah. We firebombed 50% of Japan before we even dropped those nukes. And this was a country that was built off bamboo and wood. One of the most brilliant weapons of the war, I won't say brilliant, but it fascinates me, they had these bats with incendiary devices tied to their legs
Starting point is 01:11:34 that they release over Japan. The idea is because of the bamboo construction of their homes, when the sun comes up, they'll roost in the homes, the time device goes off, and all the houses set on fire. I wonder how the weather works works going back to going back to obama though i don't know did he i don't think he apologized i don't think he said that it was a mistake not apologizing he didn't say
Starting point is 01:11:54 it was a mistake only like conservatives sort of like saw it as a bit apologetic i was okay with what he did but i didn't want an apology on him talking to our enemies and like what you were saying you're like hey i admire that hutch was saying this i reserve judgment i'm down for it like i'm curious i just don't know i feel like it's going to take five years ten years before we know whether this weakness was really a move towards peace and now we have great relationships or whether the show of weakness maybe bit us in the butt we'll find out there. There's risk involved, but I think it's an important topic to discuss. This idea that
Starting point is 01:12:29 America isn't infallible and that we can make mistakes, and we have along the way. We killed like 100 civilians in Syria last week. We're fucking shit up daily. Seven, eight years ago when he was running for office, they asked this question to Obama, and they said, hey, would you be willing to talk to Iran?
Starting point is 01:12:46 Or maybe it was against McCain. Anyway, he said, yeah, I'd talk to him. And they came back at him like this was viewed as some sort of gaffe. Like, oh, look at this idiot. We got him on this one. He doesn't know foreign policy well enough to know that he's supposed to just not talk to Russia and Iran and all these other people. But he doubled down.
Starting point is 01:13:02 He's like, yeah, I'd talk to them. This notion that we're not even supposed to speak to enemies, that we're never supposed to work things out, that we're just supposed to have embargoes and stay silent is not the way that he'll run his presidency. And it hasn't been. And I'm down for it. We'll see how it goes.
Starting point is 01:13:16 There's a difference between what he did and what Donald Trump is currently doing with Putin as well, where he's basically endorsing their acquisition of, what was it, Crimea? Yeah. Just completely saying, well, it's there now, and they're not going to go, what was that argument? I heard a lot of them wanted to be part of Russia, right?
Starting point is 01:13:34 Well, then they vote. You said that, Woody. But it doesn't matter. Even if they did, and I don't know that, and nobody in this call, I would guess, really knows that, but even if they did, i don't know that and nobody in this call i i would guess really knows that but uh even if even if they did it's still inappropriate it's still uh inappropriate isn't even a word it's still a criminal to expand your borders like that you can't you can't just
Starting point is 01:13:54 violate treaties and borders like that i i don't know why trump has aligned himself with putin like that i i guess a lot of republicans like putin and his strong leadership because undeniably look you can love or hate putin you can't deny he's not a strong leader. Like that he is. I think if you get Putin on your side, then all of a sudden at the UN, votes actually start going through. If you could separate Putin from China, I think – so Putin seems like a real scumbag. He seems like he's definitely criminal. He's been robbing that government for many years.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I've heard all kinds of crazy estimates about the fortunes that he's amassed. Rigging elections, killing, literally murdering and killing opponents. I've heard it's billions and billions of dollars that he's set aside for himself. Like hundreds of billions. Enormous fortunes. That's what I've heard. No hundred billion. I've heard that he is afraid of leaving power in anyone's hands except for a crony because they could immediately say, grab his assets, take them away from him. He's afraid of that, and that's why he's holding onto power so much. But I do believe, even though he's a real shithead, scumbag, criminal, despot leader, man, it would be nice to have him at least in our pocket when it comes to dealing with Japan and the North China Sea, dealing
Starting point is 01:15:06 with Japan when it comes to Taiwan and Japan and everything that's going on in that region. And Japan really seems, I mean, China really seems like what we should be focused on. I mean, from the cyber terrorism, all the hacking, all the entertainment.
Starting point is 01:15:22 The Russians that hacked the DNC, though. Absolutely. Well, though. Absolutely. Well, maybe. I've heard it's the NSA. Some guy who worked at the NSA thinks that they're actually the source of the leaks. I know nothing. I know nothing. Are you guys interested in a non-politics topic?
Starting point is 01:15:38 Yes. All right, Hutch. This one's on you. Have you seen the movie Inside Out? It's the cartoon Pixar thing. I love that movie. It's great. Sweet.
Starting point is 01:15:51 So give me your core memories. What are the core memories that define who Hutch is and how he reacts to his day? Now I forget. Are you talking about the core happy, angry core or just or just the core memories just kind of i'm not going to ask that you actually categorize them if there's four happies i'll take it if there's four sads i because i i did this exercise with myself and i'm not particularly good at it but uh yeah some of the core memories that so you're talking about the ones that are like really formative experiences that really kind of shape your view of the world?
Starting point is 01:16:25 Perfect. Oh, before you go, for people that haven't seen the movie, there are these like core memories and they are things that have – Shit, Hutch nailed it. They shape this girl's view of the world. And in the movie, she moves and forms all new core memories eventually. But it just shakes up how she deals with things and she goes wild and happy and crazy. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:49 The earliest memory I have is actually a sad one. I was, don't ask me how I remember this. It doesn't make any sense that I remember it, but I vividly remember being three years old and my mom took me to drop off one of my sisters at at school she was in kindergarten so she was five and i was like i was three at the time and uh she she we walk in the classroom and i i was a very social child a very i've always been like pretty compulsively social as a child i was always walking up to strangers and saying hi and giving my mom
Starting point is 01:17:23 heart attacks in the process but uh but i walked up to this kid who was painting drawing a picture and he was it was just like there was a ground and a tree and a kid and um i decided that his picture needed a sky i said this doesn't look right if it doesn't have a sky so i just picked up a brush and started painting this blue sky on this painting and this kid got so angry with me and uh and and I was horrified I'm tiny I'm like three years old and this kid's like yelling at me and I honestly think that that that affected the way that I looked at how open people are I think that was my earliest memory of really understanding that not everybody is friendly in the world or not everybody wants to interact with your input which is just yeah i'm like why wouldn't you want
Starting point is 01:18:11 to talk to everybody or like why would it help you with this with this drawing but that one that one i think like really i like it give me more anything more current anything older hutch i think like the stuff the current stuff now they're less like less these epiphanal experiences these burning bush moments and more gradual realizations so it's hard to it's hard to pick like specific memories i don't know you'd have to let me think about that for a little bit you know what i've been doing lately? Lately I've been thinking about childhood memories and examining them
Starting point is 01:18:49 with an adult's mind to try to work out what was actually going on and why things went the way they did. And there's so many times where I'm just like, oh, what were you thinking? I was thinking today. I drove past this spot where I hooked up with this girl when I was a teenager. And I remember that things didn't go as far as they definitely could have gone. And I was thinking today, like I drove past this spot where I hooked up with this girl when I was a teenager.
Starting point is 01:19:08 And I remember that things didn't go as far as they definitely could have gone. And I was thinking about everything that went down physically and I was like, she totally wanted me to bang her. What were you thinking, 17-year-old child? What did you think? Why did you think she was doing that and this and letting you do that other thing and saying that stuff? She wanted you to fuck her. Why is it that the negative emotions stick out way more to me? That's a genetic response.
Starting point is 01:19:30 It's important that negative things stick with you so that you survive them in the future, so that you learn. When that snake bites you or, you know, your family member in the tribe gets attacked by the bear and mauled, it's important that that sticks with you for life, that you're traumatized by it.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Well, that makes sense. I fell down in the bleachers in seventh grade in front of fucking everyone. Seventh grade, not a very confident guy. No. I think about that once a week. Get out. It's not a fear.
Starting point is 01:20:00 I don't see stairs and go, Oh, Jesus, how's this going to pan out? Why does that need to be remembered do you have anything like that that you think about just one second Hutch so Taylor the question while you were gone was do you know the movie Inside Out it's a cartoon thing a little girl
Starting point is 01:20:17 and her core memories oh with the stuff in her head so the question is what are your core memories just so you get the context I got a good one this one's juicy so when I lost my virginity So the question is, what are your core memories? Just so you get the context. I got a good one. I got a good one now. This one's juicy. So when I lost my virginity, I was responsible. Went to Planned
Starting point is 01:20:32 Parenthood, picked up condoms. I'd never put on a condom, used a condom. Obviously I was a virgin at that time. I remember trying to lose my virginity, and I was not putting the condom on properly, or I was just so insanely nervous. But every time I put on a condom, I would lose my boner. And this went on for – I was trying to lose my virginity for like three days, and it just my my dick just was not working with
Starting point is 01:21:07 with uh with this particular kind of condom and so i became really convinced that i had like an early onset of erectile dysfunction it became like a true it wasn't delusional because i had evidence i'm like there's something wrong and and even when she went on birth control and we stopped using condoms and the sensitivity was a lot higher the fear of having erectile dysfunction gave me erectile dysfunction for like a year i'm saying one out of four times i tried to him one out of four times i tried to fuck my girlfriend i couldn't fuck her because my dick would not work and then as and then like as i got older and then into my like mid-20s and then all but
Starting point is 01:21:45 it wasn't all of a sudden and then after some time i became much more comfortable with with what i like and what i'm comfortable with and like you know what excites me all these other other things the problem just completely went away i don't i don't currently you know have you ever used viagra or cdallas or anything no no no i like that i don't have that problem anymore like that's not it's not people without that problem yeah do it yeah so so here's what here's the way i see it like when i i've got a i've got a camaro so when i go to the gas pump i put 93 octane in there and if i happen to be by the racetrack i'll put 103 octane in there i'll pay the extra extra couple bucks a gallon.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I'll get the good stuff because my engine sounds good when I run it. It smells good when I run it. And I've got a few extra horsepower. So I've got a prescription for sildenafil. And if it's going to be a long night, if it's a special meeting of the minds, as it were, I'll take, how many milligrams do I take?
Starting point is 01:22:45 I'll take 80 to 100 milligrams of Viagra and oh my god. Oh. If you snort it, do you just get the most powerful erection ever instantaneously? I've never snorted it. I've never... I've chewed them up before.
Starting point is 01:23:01 I've chewed them up before to make them kick in fast. i have a question i have a question about about those pills because i because i because i've wanted to try them and if i had one in front of me tonight i would 100 try it and bang it out with anyways she's gonna be home so i don't think she would like to talk about like that but uh like um so when you take these pills okay does it make your dick hard and then like okay So sometimes if I have sex or if I masturbate or something like that, even after I cum, for like a minute, two minutes, it's still like full mass sometimes for whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:23:33 But if I try to have sex when I'm like that, there's not a whole lot of sensitivity. I've got to give it like 20 to 40 minutes to recharge my jets. When you take those pills, does it still feel good or is it just you you're just rock solid and you can just go so you still have a refractory period um but the difference is it's not at like you're maintaining 100 full erection and it won't go away if you keep going at it like if if you come and then you don't you you like go backplay, for example, and just let that go on for a while,
Starting point is 01:24:07 you're good to go and 100% in like 10 minutes, I would say. And the sensitivity is back. My thing is that, like, I don't know, if in the middle of a session, like somebody needs to go pee or something, like, we're not going to need to warm things back up again at all. Like, this thing is staying hard as long as it needs to stay hard. pee or something like we're not going to need to warm things back up again at all like like this thing is staying hard as long as it needs to stay hard um and it but it's it's never been what i
Starting point is 01:24:31 thought it was when i was a kid in high school and like viagra first became a thing and they're like yeah you get like a four-hour boner can't get rid of it let's give somebody some as a joke it doesn't work like that it just makes uh you know if you if you're thinking some dirty thoughts or if you see something that turns you on, you get an immediate and more powerful than normal reaction. And, like, I don't know. Here's what I'm going to do. I will do this for the show, I think.
Starting point is 01:24:55 I've got a very nice scale. I'll weigh my erection off the Viagra, and then I'll weigh my erection on it, and then we'll figure out exactly what we've got there. I don't think that would work. I don't think that would work. I don't think that would work, man. I think your boner would be pushing on the scale. Well, I'm just going to lay it on top. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:25:14 You're going to push up on it. I'm going to lay my – this is the top of the scale. You're going to measure its gravity-defyingness. Its weight. How much the blood in my dick weighs. How much more blood is in my dick when I'm on the Viagra. I just feel like in that situation
Starting point is 01:25:31 it's attached to your belly. How can you weigh it? I won't pull down on it. My finger's attached to my hand but I can weigh my finger without pushing down. I don't think you can. But what you can do is the opposite. Now I like the way you're thinking thinking You'll get some sort of graduated cylinder Dip your chunk in there
Starting point is 01:25:49 See how much water it displaces with and without I'm afraid that won't be accurate enough First we have to take a cast and a mold That's how Arkham measured his cock He was bragging to all the other Sophists about how much he displaced But yeah I'd like to try Viagra If it doesn't just give you He was bragging to all the other sophists about how much he displaced. But yeah, I'd like to try Viagra then if it doesn't just give you a boner that you can't control.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Is it hard to kick? You just go to a doctor and just tell them you have ED and they'll just give it to you? I went to my doctor and what I literally told him is, hey, I've got like three girlfriends. I'm having a lot of sex. And I cannot go three times a day with these girls without some serious mental gymnastics. And I was like, I want some Viagra. I don't want to be sweating this because when you're focused on – like you said, you can get into your own head. If you're worried about it, if you're like, all right, all right, here we go.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Here we go again. Don't mess this up. Don't mess this up. I lived in my head, dude. I lived. Like, I would just feel my boner going away and all this self-hatred just brewing inside of me. It turns you off. And now you're not thinking about the sexy moment anymore. You're thinking about failure. And, like, what will become, you know, what is she going to think?
Starting point is 01:26:58 Is she going to think she's not pretty? Is she going to think that I'm not a man? That I don't think she's pretty? Like, what is she going to think that this means? Because we? That I don't think she's pretty? What is she going to think that this means? Because we know that women are terrible at interpreting us. Oh, they're the fucking worst. We'll say something that really means, I had a bad day, and they'll be like, I'm ugly?
Starting point is 01:27:16 What? If a guy loses his boner and the girl starts going on a, is it me thing, it makes you feel so much worse you're just like can we just stop talking about this like if you if we just stop talking about it for 10 minutes i'll probably be fine but the more we talk about this is the more you have to like sit there and talk to her and convince her no it's not you as you got a flaccid dick i just have a disorder that's all it's me! I fucked up! I didn't know until 15 minutes ago.
Starting point is 01:27:48 I thought of a good core memory. I don't know if we were on that topic, but I had a Spanish teacher in high school. I took Spanish my freshman year, didn't get very good grades. Took Spanish 2, didn't get very good grades. Took Spanish 3,
Starting point is 01:28:03 didn't get very good grades. But my Spanish 3 teacher pulled me aside and said, hey, listen, it doesn't make sense to me because when you participate in class, you seem like you have a really good understanding of the language. You seem like you like to speak it, but you got a C+. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to petition that you go into AP Spanish 4 and learn at a higher level because I think you're capable of doing it. No teacher had ever said that to me before, ever. I had always tested really high as a child, but my marks were not very good. I just, ADD, call it what you will, I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:28:36 But no teacher had ever done that to me or for me. And then the next year when I took Spanish 4, there was only four of us in the class. And we had this thing called baccalaureate at the end of the year where they would give out awards for each class like basically there was honors and highest honors first and second place in each class and um one person got highest honors and the other two people got honors and i didn't get anything and there's only four people i was really bummed i was like fuck and then he like and then he looks at me and he goes now you come up here and he goes. And he gave me a really, really nice Spanish-to-English dictionary. A beautiful, beautiful, what do you call it?
Starting point is 01:29:11 It was beautifully crafted. And when I opened it, he said, you didn't think I'd forget about my most improved student. And that lit a fire under me. And it ended up being the reason why I can speak Spanish pretty well now. I pursued it throughout college. Doesn't that mean the most when someone says something like that to you? So I was doing this trip in Texas, and I was with my friend Matt, and we're on his ranch, and when lunchtime came, we'd go back to his house,
Starting point is 01:29:40 and he's got two little boys. They're like maybe five and six, six and seven, and he's got a girl. His wife's pregnant with a little girl. She's going to have any second, literally, and I don't eat lunch, but they're all eating lunch in there, and I'm listening to them talking, and I was just listening to what he was saying to his son.
Starting point is 01:29:55 He was like, Kelly, Mr. Johansson said that you answered the door the other day at grandmother's. He said that you were very well behaved and very well spoken that makes me real proud of you kelly and kelly goes thank you daddy and i was just like oh like this is hearing that in the living room i was like i hope that kid remembers that forever because that was such a cool thing his dad just said to him who would have thought fbs russia was such a softie huh yeah yeah i like kids yeah i i I've always said, and I think Woody has too, I'm a good uncle.
Starting point is 01:30:28 I'll hang out with some kids for a little while. I just don't want any responsibility. I'm a fucking great uncle, dude. I take pride in being an awesome uncle. But, yeah, I'm not in any hurry to have kids. I'm 33 years old, and I don't think I want to have kids right now. I don't know if that's okay. Your time is unlimited.
Starting point is 01:30:44 You could decide at 51. 75, whatever. Donald Trump's got a little toddler himself. If you're responsible for your kids, which I imagine Hutch would be, then you have to kind of look at your end date. You know, when do you stop taking care of kids? 22, maybe?
Starting point is 01:30:59 You know, so if it were hypothetically today, he'd be looking at 55. If it was hypothetically 10 years from now... Well, today is 22. If Hutch has a kid right now, that kid's going to need help. Well, I mean, that generation of children are probably going to need help to enter the 30s, right? But I'm 30. You also don't want to be that dad who can't even do shit with his kid.
Starting point is 01:31:17 There was a kid in my age whose dad was, when he was 12 at the time, and his brother at the time and his brother was 44 and his dad was 76 and it was a complete mistake like total accident and he even knew it because it's like you think my dad wanted a kid it's like 64 no of course not i'm just here now like so he couldn't do anything with his dad like he just he's like john snow he's a real bastard did't do anything with his dad. He's like Jon Snow. He's a real bastard. Did you do stuff with your dad, Taylor? Did I what? I hear this story and I think, my dad just worked all the time. It wouldn't have mattered if he was 300.
Starting point is 01:31:56 He didn't do shit with me. He worked all the time, obviously. But he would take me to hockey practice and we'd play street hockey in the driveway or whatever. We'd go in the yard and build shit. So we did stuff like that. I remember I was on the T-ball team as a little kid. I don't know, whatever age you play T-ball, 7, 8. I was the only kid on the team that would strike out in T-ball. If people aren't familiar with T-ball, there's a stand that holds the ball still.
Starting point is 01:32:22 You just put it on there, and you hit it. Maybe you get a little bit of movement on the wind, but not enough to strike out. there's a stand that holds the ball still you just put it on there and you hit it maybe you get like a little bit of movement on the wind but not not enough to strike no think golf think golf but the t is about five feet or three you've got a bat yeah that's right and uh and i didn't know like i didn't know anything first of all i faced like the players in the field you know when you bat you kind of line up sideways and hit. Not me, I lined up forward and tried to hit, right? And yeah, I couldn't throw, I couldn't catch,
Starting point is 01:32:53 and I would strike out. Now sometimes if you hit the tee hard enough, the ball rolls forward slightly. But I didn't know the rules well enough. Do you run forward this time or not? It always felt random to me. Sometimes they'd have me run to first. Sometimes they'd say, no, that's not good. There's like a small area in front of you, I guess, the ball needs to pass.
Starting point is 01:33:13 But I didn't get that. So, you know, they'd be like, run, run, run, run. And it's like, how am I to know if this is one of the run misses or the not run misses? There are a lot of failures in your baseball training. And the coach is probably, you know, suspect number one. But, I mean, you know, your dad probably should have gave you some pointers or at least sat you in front of a Mets game or something. I feel like he took me out there one time to, like, teach me how to hit.
Starting point is 01:33:41 And I don't remember how it went exactly. I didn't get any better i know that i trained i trained in the backyard for years to be to throw a baseball and to hit a baseball and to fucking like pull a double play from shortstop because i played shortstop for a while and and just arm exercises and that that was That's right. You were a real baseball player. No. I wanted to be a real baseball player, and so did my dad. It wasn't one of those things where he was pushing me. I didn't like it. I loved
Starting point is 01:34:13 it. I remember playing football, though, and it was the opposite. It was what you're talking about, because my dad had no interest in football. I had no interest in football. had no interest in football i don't even know why i was fucking there and i remember play after play being on like being on like defensive line or something not knowing what was going on like they would i'm just in the stance
Starting point is 01:34:37 and you know everybody goes and everybody starts pushing pushing each other so i'm just like i'll push this guy yeah yeah. I had the same fucking experience, man. I played baseball for 10 years. I loved it. I played basketball for a little bit, too. I wasn't as good, but I signed up for football freshman year because all my friends were doing it, and I was like, yeah, that sounds like fun. And I hated it.
Starting point is 01:34:57 I lined up. I didn't pay attention during practice, so I didn't know what the fucking place was. What position were you? I don't even know. I think I was a tight end. I think I was a tight end. I think I was a tight end. You've got that build. No, they put me in as a tight end
Starting point is 01:35:12 and I fucking lined up as a linebacker and one of the offensive coaches screaming at me from the sidelines, Hutchinson, what are you doing? I don't know. I don't even want to be here right now. They put me in another
Starting point is 01:35:30 game when we were up literally by 50 points, and they were like, fine, we can put Hutch in. A play started going. I just started running and avoiding conflict because I didn't want to get hit. The two running backs on my team behind me, one of them
Starting point is 01:35:46 was running lead block. He pushed me as hard as you can push someone from behind and laid me out because I was in the middle of their lane. He blocked me. It was fucking humiliating. I just remember being in practice.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Oh god, it was horrible. I just remember being in the first football practice with pads and putting the helmet on. And within three minutes, having the most intense headache and cranial pain. Because it's crushing the sides of your... I don't know. They told me this was common, that you just get over it. And I did eventually. Eventually, it just stopped hurting.
Starting point is 01:36:21 But something about it squeezing your head is giving you a headache and it was excruciating and i just remember thinking as i'm like we're doing that thing where you like stand in place and like like like do like high knees and then you drop to the ground all the way flat and then pop back up and like do it again we're doing this rapidly in the hot sun all day and i'm just like this is awful this. This is the worst thing I've ever done. I played midget soccer as a kid. And again, like I – dude. You were probably pretty good.
Starting point is 01:36:50 No. No, I wasn't. I felt like I could have been good with a little bit of coaching. The coach was our next door neighbor's dad. And like – so I played midfielder. And there's a spot where the midfielder is supposed to be. They would always yell at me for being out of position, constantly. You know, like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:37:10 Out of position, out of position. But I didn't know where he wanted me to be instead. So he'd just yell, like, Woody, you're out of position. And it's like, all right. So I would just, like, go to different places until, like, they stopped yelling at me because I didn't know where the right position was until the last game he breaks out this clipboard that has like a soccer field drawn on it and he's like these this is the area you're supposed to be in and it's like fuck it's been two years you didn't tell me that over the last two years it's i needed 10 seconds of instruction
Starting point is 01:37:42 and i would have been in position all the time. That's so true. Our coach was such a numbskull, and I remember it because literally, like my parents told me in private and told me not to say anything about it. She's like, the coach is a little off. He got hit in the head with a baseball bat a few years ago, and we all knew it was a thing that the reason the coach wears those really thick glasses is because he got hit in the head with a baseball bat a few years ago. And it was like a Gary Busey scenario where he was just a little off kilter now because he's grabbed scrambled his brains. So like, I remember literally, like you said, in like the last game of the year, I realized that I should be trying
Starting point is 01:38:18 to get the quarterback, like guy that they keep handing the ball to who's been throwing it over my head, you know, and I'm like trying to catch it or something like it's keep away like i should be trying to get him and i remember getting back the sidelines i mean like am i supposed to be getting the quarterback coach he's like yeah yeah that's the only thing you the ball you're supposed to go into the ball and i'm just like oh oh okay well i got it now he's like it's the end of the year well but you know you see next year i was gonna say it's his responsibility too man like it's a two-way street what we supposed to read a book on football like what was their plan exactly no formal training such a shitty coach my
Starting point is 01:39:02 dad coached our little league he coached my t--ball in my first year of little league when I was, I don't know, 10 or 9 or 11 or something like that. He was a great coach. There were a lot of black kids who didn't have anyone to take them to practice. And me and my dad would, every afternoon, go house to house and pick up all the kids who didn't have someone to bring them to practice. And he'd always buy everybody food and drinks and everything. And it was a good experience for me growing up playing baseball. You know, just real quick, because I've got to go in about 25 minutes, and you said something before.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Is it okay if I – are we still talking about sports? Sure. Well, no, I was going to change the subject, if that's okay. Oh, no. Oh, no, go ahead. Yeah, feel free. Well, no, you said something a minute ago about, well, he would be 55 now, but you basically made this a reference to how our generation is softening up in some ways.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Not necessarily that it's because of them softening up, but because of a lot of factors. At this point in history, you're more likely to be at home at 25 or even later than you would have been 25 years ago. Well, what I wanted to say, I had a conversation with a few friends a couple months ago about the topic, but I think it's an interesting one. This idea of the older generation complaining about my generation and millennials, I find it to be one of the most laughable things that's out in culture right now. When you take a look at how much more economic stability and
Starting point is 01:40:31 security that generation had and how much better they had it than us in so many different respects, and then to look at what's happening now and to blame it all on this supposed shift to a more lazy culture, I think is just completely short-sighted. Now, the flip side of that is that there are a lot of, like you see it in college campuses now, like some of the behavior is really childish and unbecoming of an educational institution like that, such as that one, but the blame it all on culture or somehow
Starting point is 01:41:05 suggest that we're all becoming pussies, like, I have my own thoughts on that. Like, so, my generation, Gen X, right? Which used to mean young. I think I'm Gen X too, right? Or am I Gen Y? I think you might be Y.
Starting point is 01:41:21 So my generation, they called us lazy. That was their thing with us. Lazy, lazy, lazy. The slacker generation is what they called us. And perhaps compared to the one before us, you know, that at the time, the term yuppie was coined, right? And everyone was like trying to make their money on Wall Street and driving their BMWs. And they agreed is good with Gordon Gekko. Like that was the parents when my slacker generation came to be. After that, it was this arrogant generation. And I felt like I worked with a bunch of them.
Starting point is 01:41:49 They came into the office having always had the internet. They were perhaps more savvy in some ways with regards to social media and the internet than the people that they were working for. And then comes this generation. And my knock on them isn't that they're, and I think this is a broad perspective, isn't that they're slackers. It's that they're victims. It's that they don't
Starting point is 01:42:12 take responsibility for the troubles that they have. You know, I hate hearing the economy is bad. Fuck you, dude. The economy is incredible right now. This is what good looks like. If you're just coming into the workforce now and you think that this is a shitty economy, you haven't seen shitty economies yet and you won't like it.
Starting point is 01:42:27 This is what good is. It's not just about unemployment rates. We're talking about interest levels. We're talking about the cost of college, cost of living, cost of food. With the exception of the cost of college, all those things are great. Cost of food is not at an all-time high. Interest rates are very low right now. Unemployment rates are very low right now.
Starting point is 01:42:44 But when you compare our prices to the prices of someone that grew up in the 50s or 40s or the 60s after that after that after that uh economic boom that happened after world war ii they're they're as far as what you could get with your dollar was way you had way more options back then than you do now the cost of a car way more expensive now cost of, way more expensive now. Cost of college, way more expensive now. Cost of houses, way more expensive now. Even when you adjust for inflation. I'm not saying the economy is like...
Starting point is 01:43:10 But you're getting different things, right? A car now, if a car doesn't go a quarter million miles now, then it's garbage, right? Back when I was a teenager, you trade in a car with 40,000 and they tell you that it's done, that this car doesn't have much life in it. 60,000 miles and it probably actually was done way back then.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Now, things are way better. They say houses are more expensive, the median home price is higher. Houses are huge now. They're much better. If you get some house that's built in the 1940s or 50s, that thing is probably two bedrooms with no air conditioning. It really depends where you want to live, too. If you live in a metropolitan area, houses are so expensive. Look at San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:43:50 It's shocking what a small apartment in San Francisco costs. I'm not proposing that where I live, which is kind of off the beaten path, is ideal for anyone or everyone, but you could get a 1500
Starting point is 01:44:06 square foot house here for about forty thousand dollars if you if you if you're a basic carpenter and can do a little fixing upping knock another five or ten off that but regardless when you look at what someone spent for a house in and even if they're even if houses now are better and and worth more for obvious for, okay, yeah. But the point is, is back then, you could go to a bank and get a loan for like 20 grand, the equivalent of today, like 20 to 50 grand and buy a house. And you just cannot – well, I'm not sure about the specific numbers. If someone was on the Google machine and they could figure it out. I have done like a little bit of research,
Starting point is 01:44:47 but not like going to the library. It's just literally just wasn't the, and I'm just jumping in. So I don't know. We're talking about, we're talking about a older generation looking at millennials and accusing them of being lazy. And I was making the point that they're not acknowledging how much better
Starting point is 01:45:01 off they were economically, economically than we are today and how much more they could get by on with with much much less i think that's a very fair point and also like if they had twitter and social media and the internet when that generation was young i bet the older generation would have noticed all the bitching they were doing on social media so really it's just more apparent that our generation is complaining because it's so easy to put it out there. Well, there's two particular periods of time that I can think of
Starting point is 01:45:32 that were just so easy to live in. One would be the 90s. It seems like if you were, especially if you were... A computer guy. Anything that had to do with a computer. Anything that had to do with the peripherals of a computer or the internet or electronics it seemed like you were doing great but then you go back to post till that bubble burst of course of course but then you go back but like what if you
Starting point is 01:45:54 raised your family from 1990 till to 2000 what if those 10 years were the the hard years the years where you had to buy house car and put some kids in college like that would that would be real nice and then going back to post-world war ii man those people had a myriad of advantages right first of all most of the world except for us is in ruins because we put it that us and our friends did it to them but even our allies like the english they they were getting bombed the whole fucking war over there with v2s landing in their backyards and bombing runs you know here on here on mainland united states nothing happened of course the you know the japanese uh uh went to the aleutian islands but that doesn't fucking count so we and we've got this huge industry where we've been making these bombers and tanks coming off the assembly line
Starting point is 01:46:39 constantly it's already set up and running the infrastructure is there too and all the men come back with a gi bill it was a perfect storm for a booming never been seen never seen before economy and then they all had like six seven kids and you know and ruin social security it's pretty it's i i just think it's an interesting topic to touch on with this i don't know this culture clash between the older generation and the newer generation right now. It's always been there. But I'll tell you, like, do you remember the chalkening? Do you remember the chalkening when the kids wrote Trump on the college sidewalk in chalk? And they're screaming about how it's not a safe space, how that's a racial slur.
Starting point is 01:47:17 Do you remember the girls in that? I hate her. That girl at Yale, right? Who's staying in a fucking dorm with the steinway piano and a media lab full of computers to render their shit and security guards blasting this yale uh whatever he was a director of something i don't think he was actually a teacher i think he was like dean whatever he was and she's blasting him like your job is to create a safe space. Oh my God, you pussy. Like, you're safe.
Starting point is 01:47:47 Your place is pretty freaking safe. And you're screaming at him because what? There was a Halloween costume you didn't like? Like, no, this is a real thing. The kids now are using their victimhood. Not all kids, don't get me wrong. But there are people using their victimhood as a position of strength, right? Do you realize I'm offended?
Starting point is 01:48:07 Do you realize that this is not okay? And they are cry bullies. And this is a thing that didn't exist before. And it has come into existence. And I swear it's one of the reasons Trump is doing well. Because Trump is anti-cry bully. And there is a lot of people in America who are like, oh, anti-cry bully, there is a lot of people in America who are like, oh, anti-cry bully, anti-political correctness.
Starting point is 01:48:29 I like political correctness in that it has an attempt to be nice, right? Sometimes when you throw away political correctness, you're just being a jerk. And that's not where I aspire to be. But when you start bowing down to cry bullies you've gone too far yeah there's a difference between not being so on the nose that you offend people at every turn and there's nothing wrong with offending people you go ahead and be offended there's nothing wrong with
Starting point is 01:48:54 that you should be offended every now and then it feels good get your blood get your blood pumping yeah i like to get offended every now and that's why i watch msbc and sometimes sometimes it's good to be offended too because it it change your perspective. All of a sudden you might reflect on that offense. You might realize you white knighted. You might realize that you were wrong or your
Starting point is 01:49:15 point of view might evolve. I've had that happen where I'll get massively triggered when I see a tweet or something like that. I'm good about containing that more now. I don't think I'm as emotional on Twitter or something like that i'll be like and like you know i'm good about containing that more now like you know i don't think i'm as emotional on twitter or anything like that but but um but yeah when you see these kids at college you know it is a problem on college campuses and you you have to be blind not to see it because there's evidence of it all over the place it's the reason comedians won't do colleges anymore or most of them it's a problem and i'm
Starting point is 01:49:44 i'm really with you guys on a problem and i'm i'm really with you guys on that one and i and i'm sympathetic to people like milo even though at the i fucking hate him i'm still i'm still sympathetic to people that that drift towards him and i get it i understand when you look at the alternative milo is actually pretty fucking appealing in a lot of ways we had him on this show he was he was a blast he was really on pka he started yeah i was i was really enjoying him like like like most of the way through the show and then he started talking about his strong religious beliefs you know he's a catholic and it just didn't mesh with the rest and i was just like huh he says some stuff man like he him and free speech is like an interesting conversation because it's like – and free speech just alone is such an incredibly complicated topic.
Starting point is 01:50:29 It's people think that just because you can say something, you should and you're right to say it. And I just don't think that that's the case. And people like Milo, it's like he says some stuff that is undeniably compelling, especially with regards to his criticism of the left in college campuses right now he's he makes some really compelling arguments and and it's impossible to ignore them but then he says some other then he does other shit like taking pictures of people in the gym and fucking fat shaming them on twitter you know like that shit i think like you are going like way too far man and i get that your base thinks that's funny and all and all that but you know where i'm stuck i don't like that you're just you're surprised that you got banned off twitter from like he's constantly constantly constantly belittling people he's kind of a professional
Starting point is 01:51:14 troll i don't even know if what he says lines up with his values sometimes i wonder if he's just picking the side that will get him the most attention, whether that be pro-Trump or I forget where he was on Gamergate. But that's where he first got well known. Yeah. He's definitely hamming it up to his audience. He's definitely he called he's a self-professed provocateur. He considers it his job to offend people. And George Carlin had the same kind of job.
Starting point is 01:51:43 So it's like I recognize that people people like that you know need to exist in a in a society and and we need to we need to allow that conversation to happen but yeah he was he was fun i i really enjoyed talking to him just the off the wall opinions that he had about things it was just like what like i said especially when he got to his devout catholicism i it was very hard to make that mesh with, just a moment before he was talking about how he liked to be submissive to black men in bed, and it was like, well, how do those two go together? Because normally, it seems like you're mixing oil and vinegar here. I'm not following. The Catholic Pope has recently come out and said that Catholics basically need to get over their prejudice towards gay people, which I thought was... He has, although he made some comments about transgenders today. He said that the idea that children were being taught that they can choose their gender is terrible or awful or something like that, I think was his quote. The only thing the Catholic Pope said that I loved was this...
Starting point is 01:52:41 He's a pretty liberal Pope. Yeah, he said, if churches aren't taking that money and devoting it towards helping poor people, then they should lose their tax-exempt status. And I was like, what? Hope said that? Yeah. The balls from that guy. Right? Nah, he lives a pretty austere pope.
Starting point is 01:52:57 He's driving around in a Ford Focus. Oh, is that what you were getting at? Have you seen his chair? His chair is just a regular chair, like the Pope chair. If you look at John Paul II's chair, it looks like what you think God sits in. Doesn't he live in his own opulent city? Hey, he didn't build that city. What's he supposed to do?
Starting point is 01:53:17 Yeah, I don't know. That's like saying that about Obama. Doesn't he live in a big white mansion in the middle of some great real estate?'s like that's where our leader lives to some extent i feel like a lot of it is just for show right he's like all right i'm gonna need all new robes make them less showy that chair that's been in use for the last 10 years i'm gonna get me a new chair this one less showy and and it it's true it's somewhat pr with the money from the old chair, too. I like this Pope a lot. I know that maybe he's not liberal enough for everyone, but you've got to keep in mind who he is and who he represents.
Starting point is 01:53:53 It's a Catholic church, man. It's a 2,000-year-old institution. This guy's doing a great job. You guys went from the Inquisition to, yeah, gays are okay, and just a couple hundred years. Good on you. Just stick with this guy. That is really good progress.
Starting point is 01:54:06 That would be a very steep graph. No, not compare, not compare. Now, we're trying to avoid being controversial here, but now compare that to Islam. Not compare that to Islam, which came around, which came to be around, what, 600 B.C. or 600 A.D., something like that. It was like 550 years after Christ and so when we look at the evolution of Christianity it's I see so many Christians that are very kind of snobby about where their religion is when they talk about Islam being sort of backwards and they're nowhere near as caught up and progressive as Christian well you have 500
Starting point is 01:54:40 years on them like they like this That's also assuming that religion... 500 of those old timey years don't count. That's also making the assumption that religions are all inherently kind of equal and they start out on the same racetrack and you'll all get to the same conclusion given the same amount of time. And I don't think that's true. I think religions all over
Starting point is 01:54:59 like you give, you know, Mormonism given a thousand years is not going to turn out the same as Islam given a thousand years isn't going to turn out the same as Catholicism. This is true. I'm not making any guesses as to how Islam would have turned out. But I am saying that Christianity has the benefit of five centuries of space jihad. I would say those people were far more advanced than the Christians at that time, right? Wasn't this like the birthplace of algebra and calculus and mathematics? What was happening at the time in the Middle East I'm kind of talking about, right? The people there were very advanced, perhaps more than the guys who hadn't figured out
Starting point is 01:55:37 not to poop in their own drinking water over in England. Perfect example of that. During the time when the Black Plague was destroying Europe, in the Arab community, they'd already figured out how to cure it. You lanced the boils around your lymph nodes, like around your armpits, and then you hit them with a hot poker. That's how you cured it. Or you could make an antibiotic. They took the dried scabs from the Black Plague pustules that would come up or whatever they were.
Starting point is 01:56:05 You would dry out those scabs and then you would snort them. And that would work like a little bit of a, uh, an ant, a vaccine for the black. You'd wish you were dead. So anyway, I don't think it's fair to give Islam a pass for getting,
Starting point is 01:56:18 you know, for starting late on this racetrack. No, they were ahead of the game and they paused. If anything, I'm sorry. Not a pass, but of the game and they paused. If anything, they... Not a pass, but not... I mean, Christianity is not an innocent
Starting point is 01:56:30 religion either. There's a lot of destructive qualities about it too. And it has really real and I'm sure you could... It's measurable too if you gathered some data, but like a really kind of... I'm ranting a little bit.
Starting point is 01:56:46 I'm not giving Islam a pass. You don't like any of the religions here. Yeah, not a huge fan. Go ahead, Kacha. I'm interested in what he's going to get to. We've got a zero tolerance policy. I'm not saying that people should allow...
Starting point is 01:57:04 I'm not saying that you should look at terrorist attacks or people that subscribe to Sharia law or just the general amount of hate speech or hatred that you see come from radical Islam. I'm not saying that everybody should just kind of hunker down and bear the brunt of that until they figure it out. I'm just saying that if you give people enough time, I think they will start to mellow out and progress. And in a lot of ways, in some regions of the world,
Starting point is 01:57:33 they're very insulated with their cultures and nothing can really come in and change that. I think the problem is that religion... I think that has to come from within. Part of that insulation, though, is because of that, of the religious influence there. They don't want anything else coming out. So you could just as easily make the argument
Starting point is 01:57:50 that given, you know, a sequestered area where you can just do whatever you want to do, that eventually extremists are going to ruin the lives of all the people around them who are just trying to fucking live, you know? It's because I feel like that religion has, you know, you can say that it's been hijacked, know it's because i feel like that religion has you know you can say that it's been hijacked but but there it's been hijacked people who are just enforcing its uh its
Starting point is 01:58:10 principles much more firmly than anyone else does you know they talk about the moderate muslim but moderate muslim is someone who's not following the the teachings of the quran to the letter now i don't want to know the christian who the Bible to the letter, but he lives all around me. I promise you he does. Like everywhere around me. Most of the Baptists that make up my community, if you ask them, do you believe that every word in the Bible is fact? Do you believe that these aren't allegories? These aren't like tall tales to teach you a story, that this is fact?
Starting point is 01:58:42 And they'll tell you, absolutely, absolutely yes that's the word of god like they won't go and be they will not when when they find a child molester they don't exactly they don't enforce those laws to the letter of the law now i think you've got a combination of what radical islam is to me what i think that that drives it is a few things one thing is that you've got people taking power and using that. You know, you take power, you go back to a movie like, what was that Denzel Washington, the Denzel Washington movie where he's in the future and there's no more Bibles left? Book of Eli. And they talk about the Bible. He talks about how the, he's like, if I had that book,
Starting point is 01:59:19 I could control everything. It's more powerful. Gary Oldman is talking about how powerful the Bible is for controlling a populace. And I feel like the same thing has happened in that community. You've got these, whether it's the guys who run ISIS, who are basically starting a caliphate, you know, a geographic kingdom of their own, sort of, that's pulling in money
Starting point is 01:59:39 and sex slaves and evil. That's kind of their business. They're going broke, and they're not going to win. It's like it really sucks. That's the scariest part though because what happens when right now I feel like ISIS is a big hornet's nest that everybody's
Starting point is 01:59:55 jabbing and eventually at some point somebody's going to come along with a big can of hornet spray and they're going to pretty much wipe it out, tear the nest down. But there's plenty of hornets that are going to escape and disperse throughout the world. If they talk about 30,000, 40,000, 50,000 of these fighters, how many of them are just collecting a paycheck to do evil? And how many of them are legitimately on board with this and believe that it's a way of life and are going to escape from that region and go into Europe, go into Asia, go into South America, North America? Who knows?
Starting point is 02:00:23 I want to say a comment about something Hutch said. Hutch was like, hey, you know what? This religion, we got to give them a little slack. They started 500 years later than us. No, no. I didn't say give them slack. I said let's try to be understanding of the fact that we were not where we're at now 500 years ago. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:00:40 It sounds really similar. But make no mistake. I'm not talking about radical Islam. I'm not talking about. Let me go ahead. Yeah, cheer. Let me finish my thought. Okay.
Starting point is 02:00:53 So I feel like a lot of people, especially on the liberal side, give way too much of a pass to bad things. Right. Like Bill Maher makes this point. He says, look, liberals couldn't stand apartheid in South Africa for one fucking second, right? The fact that there was apartheid, which if I understand right, is pretty much taking the black people and putting them, it's not even separate, but equal. It's just separate. You guys are not allowed to play at our party. Put them in ghettos. You guys have to form your own sort of country. And by the way, the white runs the
Starting point is 02:01:24 government, so you don't have the infrastructure and the good stuff we had. Liberals wouldn't stand that for a second. But when you hear, oh, yeah, women aren't allowed to drive there, there are a lot of people that say, well, that's just their culture. Oh, people have to wear burqas. People have to cover their hair. People have to – like all these restrictions. Oh, women don't go to school. There are a lot of people that say, well, you've got to understand.
Starting point is 02:01:43 Culture is culture. They started behind us. All right, go ahead. Some things you can chalk up to culture clash. Sure. A lot of things you can't, and I'm with you on that one. Like there is a tendency on the left to be more forgiving of immigrant minority groups to whatever that looks like. If that's a Muslim or someone from Kenya or someone from anyone, not white and male, anyone, not white male if that's a Muslim or someone from Kenya or someone from anyone not white and male. Anyone not white and male, there is a tendency on the left to be more sympathetic to those groups and to be way more critical
Starting point is 02:02:12 of... People should be protesting Saudi Arabia in the same way that they protested South Africa. They should be like what? You can't drive? You can't walk the streets unless your brother holds your hand and make sure that you're not like slutting it up at the mall. That is crazy.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Show an ankle to anyone who wants to see it. The fact that these women aren't given – five seconds. The fact that these women aren't given freedom is a huge, huge deal, right? And it is, to me, like unforgivably and undeniably bad. Yet a lot of times it's just chalked up or sort of overlooked his culture differences. And real quick to tag on to Woody, and that's
Starting point is 02:02:52 not even just the Islamist, Islamist extremists. Kyle's distracting me with his... Oh, you quit that, Kyle. But like Woody was saying, it's not even just the thing about women it's not just the extremists
Starting point is 02:03:06 and that's something that a lot of people especially on the left don't want to address in that area is that like just mainstream belief over there there's a lot of deeply troubling things about it especially regarding women where it's like like if you I mean fuck people
Starting point is 02:03:22 in this country are more likely to probably be upset about an Amish guy having his wife wear a bonnet than they are about someone in the Middle East saying, oh, you can't drive, and you're completely beholden to me for all your decisions. You don't have any freedom. You're not in charge here. You don't get a say. This is the
Starting point is 02:03:38 me show. Those bonnets are kind of sexy. We were in Ohio, and we were driving through these Amish communities, and they were all through these Amish communities, and they were all out in the yard, like, I don't know, dancing around and playing and shit, like, all holding hands, like, spinning in a circle. Yeah, without internet, you really get creative.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Yeah, yeah. But, like, the girls were all wearing these, like, dresses with the bonnets, but you could tell they were pretty shapely. And I was thinking, like, could I get her out of the Amish community cuz like I don't even have to show her a good time right anything anything she's just fascinated wait you know I'm like on their trip let me show you something and she's like holy shit that's right anytime I want right there come with me if you want. Come on, let's go. That's a wonderful comment. Did you sew it yourself? Yes, I
Starting point is 02:04:28 did. Yes, I did. I am Calvin Klein. That's my name. So what I want to say is that I'm with you on the fact that being too apologetic for some things that should reasonably outrage rational people
Starting point is 02:04:44 is a mistake and short-sighted. But at the same time it's like, there are some there are still, I think there still exist some indigenous cultures where like sexuality, for example. Like, go to Sweden and the age of consent there I think is 14
Starting point is 02:05:03 years old, which if we say that out loud as Americans, it makes us feel uncomfortable. example, like go to Sweden and the age of consent there I think is 14 years old, which if we say that out loud as Americans it makes us like... Feel uncomfortable, yeah. Like it is hard for us in our American mind not to look at Swedish people and then not classify all of them as perverts. And I think it's a mistake to generalize the same way when it comes to Muslims. And on top of that, who are victimized most by radical Islam? It's Muslims that are victimized most by radical Islam. I'll accept that.
Starting point is 02:05:34 They're the ones that are getting hurt more than anyone. Oh, yeah. Peaceful Muslims. Yeah, they might believe in some really crazy shit, but that doesn't mean that they're acting on it much in the same way that a lot of Jehovah's Witness and Mormonism and Christianity and Judaism. You can find
Starting point is 02:05:52 a lot of crazy shit in all those religions and some people will even say, I believe that crazy shit, but most people are not acting on them. Most people are not like Westboro Baptist Church or... But I think they're sympathetic to it. I think if you drew the parallels between that and nazism you know in the early 40s you'd see a lot of scary similarities like well not all germans were into that well you only
Starting point is 02:06:15 needed three you know you only needed a very small percentage for also i would point 10 million people all of those things like i'd i'd contend that, you know, unlike Sweden where the age of consent is 14, I'm sure they have laws in place in Sweden where it's like, well, if you're 38, you can't fuck a 14-year-old. Or maybe they have it different. I don't know. I don't think so. And I don't think that's okay. 14 or 15. It's 14 or 15.
Starting point is 02:06:39 I bet their 14-year-old could run a small business while our 14-year-old is egging houses, though. I have a feeling that a Swedish teenager is just a better fucking kid than ours are. I don't know about that. More mature, probably better educated. But I'm saying, I don't like that in Sweden. And even if I did think that was hunky-dory, that wouldn't somehow equivocate to what's going on in the Middle East
Starting point is 02:07:04 and those cultures where it isn't just you know the extremists who are dressing up their women in burqas and not letting them drive and not giving them freedom or you know uh there's literally criminal uh charges for apostasy leaving the faith um like that's endemic in those areas to say like oh well it's not really you know no they're not all practicing that well it doesn't matter if they specifically aren't the ones who's enforcing it but they live in an area where it's being practiced and they they're they're subjugated by that it's a very it's a very loose comparison and a very weak one but i'm just i'm making the comparison to to or i'm drawing that comparison just to make a make a point which is that uh and it's a point that's it's already been made a million times in the media in this election
Starting point is 02:07:46 cycle with respect to Muslims, but most of them are not out there bombing us. Yeah, of course not. Even if they are sympathetic, how many of those people do you think are sympathetic to someone who decides to drive
Starting point is 02:08:02 a truck through a crowd in France or something like that? How many think... 40-50%. Hang on, let me finish my question. It depends where you go. Who knows what those numbers are? No one knows. They've taken polls, so you do know. Okay. I've got a quick thing.
Starting point is 02:08:19 The age you can say in Sweden is 15. I'm not on it. What percentage of those people you think are sympathetic because of the Quran and Sharia law? And what percent do you think are sympathetic because their uncle got killed by a fucking cluster bomb meant for Taliban or something like that? Like everybody in that region has some awful story and they're all connected to each other. Like everyone shares in the squalor that they're all connected to each other like everyone shares um uh uh in the in the like in the squalor that they're living in some and i don't i didn't see any of those nine elect 9-11 uh victim survivors strapping any bombs on going overseas mixing it up with anybody they
Starting point is 02:08:58 all just mourned and and dealt with their loss we live in a country that's not in a state of constant turmoil and war and bombing and drones. Are you kidding? We've been bombing people for years, every day, constantly. We just don't listen. We're not receiving answers. 100%. That was one of the reasons why bin Laden said that he executed that attack in the first place
Starting point is 02:09:17 is because the United States was bombing Iraq consistently. They were continuously bombing them even after we left through 1998. Well, they kept putting up those radar towers, and they weren't supposed to. And so when we flew over, we'd blow them up. Like, you're not allowed to have that, remember? Boom. But my point is, how many people do you think are radicalized or are sympathetic to terrorists because of their actual beliefs, because of their religion? Or do you think it's because of the geopolitical circumstances
Starting point is 02:09:45 that... I think you're talking about a cycle that feeds itself. I think, you know, it started, there were bad people, and we tried to kill the bad people, and we accidentally killed some good people, and they became bad people, and they joined the other bad people,
Starting point is 02:09:58 and it's a never-ending cycle. I've got an answer for Hutch, too. But it is predicated on... Go ahead, Woody. He says, hey, do you think it's the religion or the geopolitical part? I think even if it was geopolitical, they're definitely using religion as their recruiting tool.
Starting point is 02:10:10 They tell people they're killing Muslims. So there is a religious aspect to that. There's absolutely a religious aspect to it, yeah. And that's undeniable. Totally. Let's leave this. I'm not denying that at all. You want to hold me to that?
Starting point is 02:10:22 I've got one. Who's watching Stranger Things on Netflix? I actually have to go. I saw that show. Thanks for having me on, guys. Thanks for coming on. What's your Twitch and YouTube everything? What if I know?
Starting point is 02:10:36 Twitch is just Hutch. The same with YouTube. I've got to redirect now. It's youtube.com forward slash Hutch. Then on Twitter, it's OhMyGodIt'sHutch. But if you just search Hutch on Twitter, it should be the first thing that pops up, I think. I hope the movie's youtube.com forward slash hutch and then on twitter it's ohmygoditshutch but if you just search hutch on twitter it should be the first thing that pops up I think alright I hope the movie's good enjoy yeah I'll let you guys know how it is take it easy guys
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Starting point is 02:14:13 Well, it's a television show. It's only one season. This is the first season. One season. Okay, yeah, then I've seen the whole thing. I've only seen two episodes, I'm afraid. So that might handicap me a bit for the conversation. But my feelings on it so far, it feels like childhood movies.
Starting point is 02:14:27 It feels like E.T. mixed with Close Encounters of the Third Kind or something. I love the soundtrack, the music, the costumes are so good. The costumes are so good. Those kids look like real fucking kids. I love that too. The actors look like kids, and they're very good actors, all of them that I've seen so far. I love that too. The actors look like kids and they, uh, they're very good actors. All of them that I've seen so far. I love the story. I love the sci-fi aspect of it. I love the, the scary aspect of it. It's, it's kind of a scary show. Um, it's very suspenseful at times. Um,
Starting point is 02:14:58 the production value is, is definitely there. I heard it got shopped around to 15 or even 20, uh, different, you you know networks and cable networks before netflix uh bought it or or it went to netflix but i'm glad it did because man uh it looks like another home run for them uh the reviews are you know five stars across the board everybody's loving it um what are you guys thinking so far i I saw it. I liked it. The whole thing? Or how much did you see? All of it. All of it.
Starting point is 02:15:28 Okay. Yeah, yeah. So I thought it was good. I feel like it's right there with, like, season one of Orange is the New Black. You know, in my opinion. Some people say it's better. But it's not quite Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones. You know, those, like, elite, elite shows.
Starting point is 02:15:42 It's definitely worth your time. Yeah, it's really good. And it... First, I don't know why it is but kyle you hit the nail on the head with the whole like uh kid mixed with fantasy thing it has a real et vibe and for some reason it makes me more willing to you know suspend my disbelief if it's a kid in there because i'm just kind of imagining myself as a kid and what i'd be thinking and not adult me being like, oh, well, there must be a logical conclusion for all this weirdness.
Starting point is 02:16:09 Like, I liked it. Like, there's a bunch of nonsense sci-fi stuff you have to put out of your head, but it's fun because it's like a kid's show in a dark place. It's a kid's show juxtaposed into a really dark reality, and you see both, and I like that. It's not that it's a kid's show, really. It's that some of the main main
Starting point is 02:16:25 characters are kids it's it's a regular adult drama but you've got kids thrown into a really tough adult situation one of the things that struck me that i really liked um was in episode one um i don't think this is much of a spoiler but someone gets kidnapped a child gets kidnapped in episode one or he goes missing let's just leave it at that and from the time he sees his danger to the time when he sort of loses his battle to stay away from that danger every step of the way he's doing what you the viewer wants him to do he's not an idiot he's smart he's smart he's like oh you see danger no time for the bicycle run run home find your mom find your brother they're not there oh 9-1-1
Starting point is 02:17:06 gotta get some help lock the door good now check to see if everything's safe oh it's not safe retreat further can't get 9-1-1 help we need a weapon and it's just like yeah that's exactly what a clear thinking adult would do every step of the way i really admired the way that kid was like running around and trying to like home alone his way out of that situation the kids crushed oh i thought there was break there's no go ahead crushed it the whole way through and i really like that like so um you know the movie the sandlot i feel like a lot of people love it yeah the child acting in that was awful it was such shit yeah no it may be because i was older when i saw it like you know i was probably in my 20s or 30s and i'm just like this is all the kids look like they were out playing all running and just
Starting point is 02:17:50 laughing and situated they weren't awful awful acting the acting in stranger is it stranger things stranger things yeah it was good like as an adult and you sit there and critically act the the ability for these like 10 year oldsolds or whatever they were. Strong actors, even as children. I looked him up just because, especially the guy with no teeth who's got... I felt bad for him, so I wanted to look up at first to be like, he's got teeth in real life, right?
Starting point is 02:18:16 And then just confirm that. And he does. They pull him out for the show. Yes, he's a method actor. So he's on a mashed potato diet until the series winds down. yes he's a method actor uh so he's on a mashed potato diet until the series winds down but he's he's a good actor for a kid and i actually enjoyed watching him on screen because i'm usually very critical of child actors because i know i'm like i've been eight before this kid doesn't know what the fuck they're doing they're just doing whatever that
Starting point is 02:18:39 man over there that woman over there's saying but they weren't committing any of those gaffes like in the sandlot where it's just it's it's it's horrible if you try and go watch the sandlot again i challenge you to get through it like you're relying a hundred percent on nostalgia juice to pump you through that piece of shit film but stranger things is great i can't recommend it enough and i want to talk about it more when kyle's further into the series i'm gonna get on tonight and i'm going to watch. I'll probably get in. I might finish it tonight. I'm really into it.
Starting point is 02:19:09 Got a girl over here. She's pretty into it. It's great. I'm glad that I... One of the barriers... This is what I wanted to say. I've been thinking about this since I thought that I wanted to talk about this show on this show. Is that some people might be not interested in it because they think it's a kid's show.
Starting point is 02:19:30 And there is a real barrier to getting into a new show. And I know what that's like with that show, The Night Of. I'm having a hard time getting into it. I know it's good. I believe it's good. But there's something about watching that first episode, and I see him making mistake after mistake. And it's literally the opposite of what that little kid did does in stranger things it's like here's an eight year I don't know eight to eleven year old I'm bad at gauging children's age here's an eight to eleven
Starting point is 02:19:54 year old who's fucking heads up and making good smart decisions and it's not like you're like well he never it's not like he's putting together a zap like taser gun like iron man or something he's just making the right decision every step of the way. But then you go to, I'm sorry, what was I just talking about? The night of. And it's like, God, this kid is going to steal. It's not even his dad's taxi. It's a taxi that his dad is in partial ownership with two other men with.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Could ruin his father's career. You know, his father could lose his medallion over this. I i didn't catch that he wasn't allowed to drive that taxi no he stole that so so he stole the keys and went out and then he he admits to her that like this isn't even my dad's taxi my dad and two other guys went in on this taxi and i've stolen it and now i'm gonna pick you up random hot chick and do drugs with you which I guess that was acid they were dropping like I don't know when you put it on your tongue maybe ecstasy
Starting point is 02:20:51 I don't think so it was a pill well I mean you can put acid on a sugar tablet you can drop it on anything it was either acid or ecstasy I would probably know if I kept watching he wasn't still tripping when he got arrested so it probably wasn't acid probably not yeah probably ecstasy I would probably know if I kept watching. Well, he wasn't still tripping when he got arrested, so it probably wasn't acid, right? Probably not, yeah. Yeah, probably ecstasy.
Starting point is 02:21:07 But just, you know, I know where it's going, and it's like watching a train wreck happen. Like, there's some movies that I rewatch, and I'm rooting for the characters to do something different than they're going to do. Like, I know that nothing's going to be different on this next watching of the lord of the rings but i'm thinking like man just get the eagles just get them just come on let's
Starting point is 02:21:30 just let's just fly in there and get this over with we can wrap this up in 50 minutes come on i know they're not gonna you know but but still as i watch it go down it frustrates me so i will get into it and i'll enjoy it but what i'm talking about all this for is if you're one of those people who's thinking of stranger things as like some some kiddie show that you don't want to be part of it's not that there's a there's a big overarching storyline plenty of adults the sheriff has strong parts when a writer of course is playing the best like sketched out burnt out mother of all time she's very good in her role very Very good. So yeah, two thumbs up from me for that movie. Yeah, being able to watch a kid do what...
Starting point is 02:22:08 Show. A show, yeah. Being able to watch a kid do what I think I would have done, it makes it way scarier. Because usually the kid would just be like, there's the closest tree, and then go stand by it and go... That is what they do, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:23 And then come around and go, ah! And it'd grab them. But like, as an even me watching, I'd be like, I wouldn't have got caught, but this kid did exactly what I would have done. And he still got caught.
Starting point is 02:22:33 And so it's kind of a reminder of like, Oh fuck. Like, yeah, this, this, this real that this is what would have happened. But the best kid in the best situation. Okay.
Starting point is 02:22:39 It's not real, but the best kid and some monster or whatever it is out there. And I see how it plays out. And that's's what will happen it would have happened to me i can't watch romantic comedies to save my life or a lot of shows about relationships because every fucking romantic comedy every show out there starts on a bullshit premise or mistake that could be handled in a couple phrases or a sentence five minute conversation and we don't need to do this movie anymore. Yes, all it is is a guy
Starting point is 02:23:09 oh, I'm stressed out coming home from work, I'm gonna buy condoms and roses and stuff and then I'm gonna bang my girlfriend when she gets home and he gets there and he throws it down and she calls, oh, I'm gonna be late from work and he goes, oh, maybe enough time to beat off. So he goes into the fucking bedroom and starts watching porn and then he has his headphones on it's really loud
Starting point is 02:23:26 And I haven't seen this one Unplugs it and it sounds like sex and she walks in here's from outside You're banging someone else you got her flowers and got it and then she runs out and instead of going like wait I was looking at porn. I'm jerking it He walks over and watches her leave and is like, BAAABE! AHHHHHHHHH! Then he closes the door and is like,
Starting point is 02:23:51 No, you didn't address it! Of course this is a problem now! You made this a problem! You don't deserve to get ba- It drives me crazy when an entire show can be handled with a three minute, just hold on. What show have you seen with this plot Taylor? Thousands of them. Every show. Not a specific chain of events but what he's
Starting point is 02:24:10 saying is like those sort of scenarios can be so easily solved by like that wouldn't happen to us. You know it takes you out of it because you would be like no no I swear I'm not cheating on you. I'm just jerking off. Come look. Search the fucking house. Where's our car? You think I'm fucking a ghost in here? Like come look. That's all you gotta to do that's what you would literally do in real life
Starting point is 02:24:28 you know but they don't do it they're just like you don't understand it's complicated enough is enough and i am done with this i am done with all the nonsense and i'm out of here but it's complicated i gotta let me explain and you understand. I love sex so much. And she's like, he says something like that. Says you can take it either way and she books it and then she dies or something. And that's the whole movie. It's shit. But that's not what happened in Stranger Things.
Starting point is 02:24:55 The kid was heads up. He did what we would have done. He like, you know, home family, police, gun. Like in that order, you know. And yeah, love the show. Watch that show. What else we got?
Starting point is 02:25:08 What do you want to talk about? I've got a topic. I don't know if it'll go anywhere. But it's a UFC thing. There's this guy, Mark Hunt. And he's a heavyweight fighter. I don't know if he's top five or top ten right now. And he fought Brock Lesnar at UFC 200.
Starting point is 02:25:22 Anyway, he lost. And it turns out Brock Lesnar at UFC 200. Anyway, he lost. And it turns out Brock Lesnar gets popped for performance enhancing drugs. I forget the specifics of it. I just call them all steroids inaccurately. So anyway, he's been sort of going off on social media about this. Because, I'm going to get my numbers a little wrong. It's like his third guy in the last four or five fights that got busted for steroids after the fight.
Starting point is 02:25:48 And he's pissed off because he keeps fighting these guys who are on steroids. And some guy tweets him and says huge fan of yours bro, but everyone in the comments saying you should stop posting about Lesnar is right. Lesnar got busted for steroids. Brock Lesnar.
Starting point is 02:26:03 It's not a good look on you if you keep posting that juiced up cunt. You're giving him publicity. So they're telling Mark Hunt to stop complaining about facing cheaters. And he replies, how about you go fuck off my page then, you piece of shit? You think I need a stupid fuckwit
Starting point is 02:26:19 like you telling me about looking good? Who the fuck are you? Take back your worthless advice and get the fuck out of here. Sour grapes, man. S man sour grape that's the thing i i'm on his side i'm on his side look put yourself in his shoes for just three seconds here that you are a professional fighter you go into a ring and face another man with your fucking fist and the other man who happens to be the scariest human being most of us have ever seen, is cheating to make himself even
Starting point is 02:26:47 fucking scarier. It's like fucking some monster comes in, and he's cheating. You're like, if I'm not bad enough, I'm fighting a cyclops? You got him on the juice, too? If I set up a boxing match with a third grader
Starting point is 02:27:04 and I bring up brass knuckles like it's like this why add insult to injury that'll teach you to take my snacks like no reason for so like but so i saw this video god i can't remember it was an indie game developer and uh back when he was on the forums everybody loved him because he would just give all the other developers shit and they thought he was right and smart. Then he makes a game and he acts the same way. He continues to give all the critics shit. And essentially the conclusion is
Starting point is 02:27:33 he was being famous wrong. That once you become famous, everything is supposed to be even keeled. No one gets under your skin. You just deflect it, you don't reply. And Mark Hunt, to me here, is being famous wrong. No one gets under your skin. You just deflect it. You don't reply. And Mark Hunt, to me here, is being famous wrong. But I hate that there are different rules for Mark Hunt.
Starting point is 02:28:01 That he's supposed to take this fucking jackass' advice on whether or not he's allowed to talk about the guy that she cheated against him. Yeah. That doesn't matter one bit to me. I think this is bullshit because, like, fuck that fan for saying that. Mark Hunt him. Yeah. This is a Trump video. That doesn't matter one bit to me. I think this is bullshit because, like, fuck that fan for saying that. Mark Hunt's a fighter. He's not a politician. He's not your local representative. He can say whatever the fuck he wants,
Starting point is 02:28:14 and you're still going to be a fan of him because what he does is he goes out and beats people up for a living. I definitely feel for him. I would feel cheated and so angry, and not just because of, like like the bragging rights and the money and Whatever shame there is with being beaten up on live television by this guy You know all those things and you career-wise the damage that it may or may not have done to him
Starting point is 02:28:37 But hey, I went in the ring and this guy could have killed me This man could have hit me so fucking hard in my head that I never woke up. Like, he's already hitting so goddamn hard. I would love to, you know those, like, box things they have at bars? Where you, like, go up and you hit it, and, like, it goes up to Gorilla?
Starting point is 02:28:57 That shit should go up to Brock Lesnar, motherfucker. This guy is a monster! And he's cheating to be even bigger and stronger and to recover faster or to have better cardio. God knows what. All of it, right? Right. Whenever they tell you that there's a – they don't want to tell you what it is, it's always steroids because they can't test for HGH appropriately.
Starting point is 02:29:18 I believe he's on HGH. It's probably what caused that disorder he had or whatever. The guy is a monster he looks freakish i mean that's the sort of thing one of the broadest like usually if someone has broad shoulders and they're like six five like you'll notice like that's a big guy but it's not like crazy broad he looks like like it's it's obscene his shoulders are gigantic not really human shaped i don't like that he exists. He's not human-shaped. He's shaped like a monster.
Starting point is 02:29:48 And so I understand this guy Mark being pissed. The response back to the fan though is what loses me. You could respond to that so much better. You could just say, yeah, why wouldn't I be fucking pissed about my opponent cheating?
Starting point is 02:30:03 How about that response? Yeah, that would be much better. That would have been a better reply wouldn't I be fucking pissed about my opponent cheating? How about that? How about that response? Yeah, that would be much better. That would have been a better reply versus fighting argument. I'm so sympathetic, empathetic, I guess, to Mark Hunt, though, because this is not the first guy telling him this, right? He probably has 5,000 people in his ear chiming about how he's supposed to be talking, and that's why he's so fed up. If you view it in just the context of like
Starting point is 02:30:25 one guy trying to help him out then perhaps he responded kind of crazy i would have said something like barry bonds cheated to hit home runs and he was fucking indicted and people went to jail over it brock lesnar is cheating to hit my brain pan and nobody seems very overly concerned with it that's what i would say. He said stuff like that, right? This was his blow-up moment. He says, look, this guy's cheating. I'm going to get hurt. This isn't fair.
Starting point is 02:30:51 I keep going up against cheaters. I've had three in my last five fights. Numbers close to true. And this guy is like, you know, I think you should stop complaining about people cheating against you. And he's like, what the fuck? Right? That's when he blew up. To play both sides, the guy who sent him the message,
Starting point is 02:31:08 screen capping it and sharing it, a private message, shitty. Shitty, shitty, shitty thing to do. Like, of course, Mark Hunt should know that it's going to get out there because he's famous. But I don't like that either. And if he has been getting hundreds of messages about this, you'd think that he would have had time to formulate a response.
Starting point is 02:31:28 Like if he hasn't addressed it like this before then he's probably let some steam blow off. I don't know. I shouldn't be commenting. I don't know enough about the story. It doesn't stop me. It shouldn't. And it never will.
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Starting point is 02:33:25 Is this a position that we can get behind? I feel like finally there's a good reason. Oh, Jesus. You can't just... I feel like finally there's a good reason to not vote for Trump. Look, I... Did something just come in? Trump said he's going to crack down on internet pornography.
Starting point is 02:33:46 Look, here's the thing. Oh, my God. He's fighting phantoms all around him. Yeah. I feel like if there's something that PKA is for, it's guns and porn, right? Guns and porn. So there's just no winner in this thing yeah he Hillary he's not going to get rid of porn
Starting point is 02:34:08 and that'll never happen see that's why it doesn't bother me when he says things like that that's like he came out and said we're getting rid of farts I'm anti fart no more farting around here I'm solving the fart crisis yeah you know they're always talking about the methane gas.
Starting point is 02:34:26 You know how much methane is in a fart. He's anti-fart. He's making everybody put butt plugs in their ass that filter the methane out and make a little toot or something like that. Like it's musical farts now. Well, a lot of jackass.
Starting point is 02:34:44 Yeah, what a real real asshole he's i don't i would never vote for hillary but i'm really fucking i need to take a close look guys he's hornier than anybody right i need the anti-porn this is a guy who's like fucking models his whole life he likes seeing his wife mood look he's pandering. I see what Trump's doing. And I honestly know exactly what he's doing because I've been seeing him seeing him do it a lot. I don't think Trump listens to anybody. But but I think what Trump believes will is going to win him this election is by firing up the the the Christian American some of his Republican base.
Starting point is 02:35:23 Yeah. Specifically devout Christians. He says things like, we're bringing Christmas back. Christianity is going to be a power in this country again. In God we trust. And now he's saying this, the morality police stuff. Now, none of this is substantive. It's not like you can legislate that effectively.
Starting point is 02:35:41 It's been attempted in the 80s, the 90s in the early 2000s whether you're talking about going back to hustler magazine and larry flint you're talking about howard stern you can't legislate debauchery well in the united states anymore they the debauchers won all of those battles in the end game fucking over trump you should know this and he does know it but he's pandering to that group. And it's, you know, he's trying to work. It just worries me. Again, you know, Trump is water.
Starting point is 02:36:09 You can pour him into any bucket shape you want. And that's what we're doing here. We're like, oh, against internet porn? That's one of the things he doesn't mean. You know, before long, there's a lot of things. It's not what I want. It's not what I want him to believe or don't want him to believe. It's just what I truly believe based on, like, sizing him up and what he said in the past versus what he's saying now.
Starting point is 02:36:30 And it just seems like he's really going after the Christian base. He's trying to get those guys not just in the South but in the Rust Belt. I think that's what's going on in the Midwest. I'm sure he's worried about some of those Midwestern states. I think that's what it is. I really do. I don't think Trump's actually anti-pornography. This is a guy who goes on the Howard Stern show
Starting point is 02:36:46 and he's trying to get Jerry Seinfeld to come to it. He's talking about how the beautiful, he's like, the most beautiful women in the world brought them all in. Hundreds of them. It was so funny to hear this. Is Seinfeld single? He was then. This is an old show.
Starting point is 02:37:01 It's like Trump talking about this party he's having that night and he's inviting Jerry who's also on the Stern show and Jerry's like Trump talking about this party he's having that night. He's inviting Jerry, who's also on the Stern show. Jerry's like, really? Wow. You can tell that Jerry's interested in this hot fucking party that Trump's putting on. They're talking about it. Howard's like,
Starting point is 02:37:18 I kind of want to get invited. Can I get on? Everybody's interested. You're tall and you're weird. Yeah, that girl that Seinfeld was with was quite young. I think that she was like – she was underage when they started dating, I think. Or maybe she was 17 and he was like 39. It's something like that.
Starting point is 02:37:41 I'm going to guess, based on my my memory of these events that he was roughly 39 and she was roughly 17 when they're when they like came out as boyfriend girlfriend but there are many people who piece together like paparazzi photos and such to to prove that the relationship predates her um eligibility for said relationship so she was being groomed is what they would contend. Exactly. Now that's a top-tier technique that I only recommend for... No, no, that's real shitty.
Starting point is 02:38:12 For pedophiles. Yeah, for pedophiles. Well, no, not for pedophiles, because if you're a pedophile, then the last thing you want is to be biding your time while this kid is going through puberty. You don't want that. You want to hit it early, get in there quick. But what we're talking about is the exact opposite of that.
Starting point is 02:38:31 You see a potential in this youngling. It's kind of like a Jedi master. I have nightmares about kids turning 17. He just spotted a triple A prospect. Not quite in the majors yet. He just pulled her out. So I looked it up. He was 38. She was 17. So Kyle was pretty much on the money. And yeah, and then I guess, you know, he stuck with her all the way till 19 or 20. You know what? Well, that says something. So she got too big. Stuck with her through all three of those good years. years yeah yeah the porn thing like it is easy to say like he does he does flip-flop on everything constantly and but i also don't think it's silly to say he really doesn't believe that porn is
Starting point is 02:39:16 gonna go away like he's no no one who's realistic even those hardcore christians know in their heart of hearts they're not going to win fighting back against gay marriage they're not going to win fighting against porn these battles are lost abortion can go the other way who was that guy we had on a couple weeks ago he was a white gay man
Starting point is 02:39:37 I'm struggling with his name all I have is Milo oh Dave Rubin he didn't dig into it but basically what he was saying, I hope I'm remembering this right, that it was him who said this, and this is how he said it. I don't want to misquote him. But I think what he was saying was that on the issues of gay marriage,
Starting point is 02:39:56 that'll never be overturned. And the reason for that is there's going to be no new evidence, no new research that is ever going to show any negative to gay marriage, because two men marrying in no way affects the world around them. It's just their own little bubble there with two men in it. Nobody else is affected by it in any way. There's no negatives, not one. However, with abortion, what he was suggesting, and he didn't really say it out loud, but what he was inferring was that the more and more research that goes into this, the more that we find out about how a fetus develops and how brains develop in the womb, the more evidence there may or may not be
Starting point is 02:40:37 that would suggest that especially late-term abortions, past 24 weeks, or in particular, partial birth abortions where the child is partially delivered until the head is crowned, and then they insert scissors into the skull and open them to form a passage and then insert a tube in and vacuum out the brains. That's an accepted form of abortion. Jesus Christ. Yes. And, you know, that's, and I know to some people that might sound like some Carly Fiorina
Starting point is 02:41:03 fucking propaganda. Look, I wouldn't make that up if that weren't a thing, you know? I know to some people that might sound like some Carly Fiorina fucking propaganda. Look, I wouldn't make that up if that weren't a thing, you know? It's shitty. I'm not saying that then they pull the baby out and sell its arms to fucking, like, Japan to make, like, cyborgs or anything. It's not devilry, but it's a form of abortion that seems awful, really awful. And I'm not for that. seems awful really awful and i'm not for that i think that maybe the abortion needs to occur before 24 months and only in situations of rape incest or um you know threat to the mother's life or um certain congenital birth defects should abortions be allowed after 24 months you know
Starting point is 02:41:40 you know you should probably figure that out and that you want the abortion within 24 months is a long time. Yeah, more than twice as long as it takes to have a baby. Weeks. Weeks. And was she a llama? Weeks. Gestation takes three to four years. The calf will be born alive. I checked multiple websites.
Starting point is 02:42:08 It's like, is Kyle's description of this on Target? It is. Yeah, partial birth abortion is... I think anyone who's reasonable can agree that's pretty reprehensible. If they're letting the baby be born, and the only difference between that baby being a baby that someone has and is alive and not is a pair of scissors waiting for it. Like, that's really fucked up. 24 weeks is pretty late.
Starting point is 02:42:36 That's six months. So babies are on the edge of surviving at six months. Some make it, some don't. And I feel like most people who want abortions, they're not waiting until that time where they're like, actually, now that I've gone through this whole transformation in my body, now I'll kill it. Now that I've wrapped up my second trimester, I've changed my mind. Yeah. 70% of the way in. So I feel like most women who are going to have an abortion know pretty fucking quick.
Starting point is 02:43:03 And I don't think it's like i don't think it's a good thing like abortion like i don't think it should be like praised or lauded or anything but i don't think it's someone's place to say that you shouldn't be able to have an abortion if it's before a certain time period or something like it's it's it's necessary but it shouldn't be lauded as some great thing, you know? It shouldn't be lionized as, like, aha, you know, the freedom to get an abortion. Like, it should be taken seriously and be like, you know, this is an important process. Don't do that whole thing that they'll do where they're like, oh, you have to take fucking a week to think about it because that's condescending and stupid.
Starting point is 02:43:43 Like, at least respect the woman there enough to say, you you know what you want to do let's do it but there's definitely making them notify their parents that's that's one of the laws that a lot of states will put into play and then the other thing is is and and conservatives will use this they will say oh we're the ones looking out for women's health issues we only want abortions to occur in clinics with X, Y, and Z. And you're like, holy shit, X, Y, and Z cost like $15 million. And we've got to, it's like, you know, it reminds me of like, there's an episode of King of the Hill where like Hank has to look after this veteran's cat, the soldier overseas cat. And when he takes it to the vet, the vet has this insurance scam where he's forcing it to be scanned by all these expensive machines. And it's just bullshit. You know, it's an insurance scam.
Starting point is 02:44:30 And an abortion is a very simple procedure that, you know, you get a doctor to do it, but you don't need, like, a surgical team. It's not like we're doing brain surgery. You know, I mean, what we're doing, we're going in and taking a life. You know, somebody's going to die in the procedure guaranteed. And that's the other thing. Like, I'm pro abortion, but I think we're killing a human being in there. That's just what I think. Like, I think that that fetus is a person in there.
Starting point is 02:44:58 I just I do. And, you know, I feel like a lot of people I know I'm like that, too. It's like, all right, I'm pro-choice. Let's nail that down. But reluctantly, you know, and definitely, I think we can all admit like the moment the sperm touches the egg, it's not what most of us would consider a person yet, right? Nope.
Starting point is 02:45:20 But that moment where it is considered a person is definitely, or maybe not as far along as abortion is currently allowed. Six months out seems too far to me. Somewhere along the way. The brain is developing, I believe, at around 24 weeks. Well, it's developing long before that, isn't it? There's something in there, but the complex brain is developing around that. I think it's developing long before that isn't it or is there something in there but the complex brain is developing around i think it's a lot you know i yeah the heart's beating way earlier than that yeah oh yeah and you know maybe the heartbeat is the start i don't know i don't know but um
Starting point is 02:45:58 it even though i'm pro-choice it's reluctantly so i think we can all admit it's it's a sad situation to have happened and you're choosing the lesser evil, whatever you think that is, right? It might be bringing a baby into a family that's not going to care for it very well or it might be deciding not to have a baby at all. It's a tough spot. Yeah, it's so complicated because like even only like the furthest, like I guess some people will say like, oh, it's just a fetus. Like it's not a baby until gets its, you know, kindergarten degree or whatever it is like there are people like that. But I don't think most pro-choice people are like that.
Starting point is 02:46:38 I like to believe that most pro-choice people are kind of like us where it's like, yeah, this is a really serious issue. We don't need to lionize it and act like it's a good thing to have an abortion but we can also say you know if you do need it and you think that's what's best for you and you know it's not halfway out of you with scissors in its head then that's understandable like it's not my place to to tell you yeah you're talking about like a 24 month abortion that's what you don't when they gotta get the kindergarten before it's okay. That is a 24 month I don't know. He just keeps shitting them diapers ain't waiting yet. Let's just do it man. Yeah, I'm done with this I beat to be the dad to be frank. I've been over this since week two Bring me the sisters
Starting point is 02:47:22 Frank, I've been over this since week two. Bring me the scissors. Come here, Jimmy. Yeah, crawl on over. Yeah, it's arts and crafts time. That's dark. That's sad. So I saw that Adult Swim uploaded a good version of that Rick and Morty parody of the – I just want to throw that out there.
Starting point is 02:47:44 If anybody wants to see a better version, you don't have to see it like a cell phone video over somebody's shoulder anymore. Just the screen, you know, it's like it's animated. And I don't know if the animation's improved, but they uploaded another version of it. That thing's so fucking hilarious. I must have watched that six times this week.
Starting point is 02:47:59 I've been showing it to everybody. So how was your trip? Oh, it was so good. I'm so glad I went. So I flew into Austin on Sunday afternoon and met up with my buddy Matt. Matt, I think I've said it a couple times, but a really nice guy. He's got a master's degree in chemistry from Texas A&M, and he's a southern guy with a really strong southern accent. And those two don't usually go hand in hand. And then you start hearing him speak about chemistry, and he really is a real-life, like, Walter White-level chemist. He's a bit of a genius with his just off-the-top-of-his-head knowledge of chemicals and compounds and how they react with one another, and we just sit there in his laboratory,
Starting point is 02:48:40 and he has, like, a legit laboratory, like something you'd see from a movie, and we made three different kinds of high explosives there in just a matter of minutes and we made exploding um 44 magnum bullets in just a matter of minutes and i'm sitting there jotting making notes you know because i got the same fucking license he's got i'm like ah this will come in handy now i know how to make exploding bullets it's so fucking easy like i'm gonna make i'm i'm i already ordered the parts and uh can you make explosives with things that I might not be allowed to do it, but, like, I'm always told, like, oh, yeah, this is just fertilizer. Farmers buy it by the ton,
Starting point is 02:49:12 and you mix the fertilizer with the other fertilizer, I guess, and suddenly you've got a bomb. That's how Timothy McVeigh did it, didn't he? Yeah, so you can use ammonium nitrate, and there's a lot of things you can add to ammonium nitrate. Is that fertilizer? Yes. Okay. It's prilled ammonium nitrate. It's, I think, it's like 32 dot
Starting point is 02:49:32 Z. You know how fertilizers have the three numbers for the nitrogen and whatever the ratios are? Yeah, those science letters. Well, anyway, they got the numbers in there. It'd be like 20, 20, 20 to indicate what percentage of each thing but with ammonium nitrate it's just all the ammonium it's just all ammonium nitrate
Starting point is 02:49:50 and the others are zeroed and blanked out but anyway yeah you can buy that stuff uh anywhere and it's perfectly legal as far as i and i don't let me start saying don't get pka legal advice but as far as he knows farmers buy it you can buy it. Well, what I was saying is look up what's legal in your area because I don't know where everyone lives, but where I'm at, I, as just a civilian, can go order a bag of fertilizer, go on Amazon and buy a bag of aluminum powder, blue aluminum powder, not black aluminum powder,
Starting point is 02:50:20 and make my own binary explosives at home for my own personal use perfectly legally if I want to. I didn't know that was legal. Yeah, absolutely. Can anyone do that or just you because of your – Anyone can do that here in Georgia. That's as far as I'm willing to branch out. But I want to say just about everywhere you can do that.
Starting point is 02:50:43 So the other – and that's for most binary explosive compounds, it seems. He makes an explosive called matinite, which is a couple of chemical compounds that are powder that he puts in a plastic bag, and then he pours nitromethane racing fuel on top and sandwiches it up like a sausage, and it's the same equivalency as TNT. It's pound for pound the same power as TNT. So that's, although he doesn't sell it to civilians, it's perfectly civilian legal for a civilian to make it and purchase it, I think. But what I was there doing is learning not to kill myself when working with explosives.
Starting point is 02:51:19 We learned four different kinds of detonators, whether you're going to light it with a fuse or you're going to turn a detonator or you're going it with a fuse, or you're going to turn a detonator, or you're going to press a detonator, or you're going to use a non-linear charge where you use this little tool that uses a shotgun primer to send a little burst of fire through a long hose. There's a lot of ways to detonate things. And that's what I wanted to learn. I wanted to learn how to order explosives from various manufacturers, who's got the good shit. Because some of these guys that have explosive licenses and are just they only make like one kind of explosive
Starting point is 02:51:49 just for blasting and they only deal in like a million pounds at a time and i need to know who i can call and get like a case of dynamite sent to my house so i learned that and i learned a lot of safety stuff i learned a lot of record keeping stuff and then we went out into the field and we destroyed ordnance for two days which is taking uh that he receives them from the military these 40 millimeter grenades land mines um uh explosive rounds from artillery guns and howitzers and stuff and he doesn't blow them up he uses shape charges to cut holes through them to ensure that there's no high explosive in them because sometimes an actual high explosive round gets tumbled into the recycle bin, and he's the guy who's got to be there to safeguard and make sure that, you know,
Starting point is 02:52:32 once he signs off, he's signing off that all of this shit I'm sending away is safe, no bombs in there, anything like that. So that's what we did all day. We took these shells that may or may not be like, you a 50 pound high explosive bomb we put our explosive charge on top prime it uh get it all ready run our wires and everything get off to a safe distance and then detonate it and we did that for two days like i said in the hot ass texas heat it was what percentage of the time is it uh around that was live uh we found two we found two that were uh that were live we we probably detonated a total like 15 things and two of them were a lot and and these were things that we looked that looked
Starting point is 02:53:13 suspicious to us you know like we dug through a bigger field of of stuff and we found the things that that you could see that that we couldn't see the the inside of them they weren't cracked open they didn't have a hole cut in them. Or maybe this particular kind of round is notorious for, ah, is it or isn't it? And then one round in particular, we could look on the inside, and it looked like TNT explosive in there. He's like, you see that yellow? That's not a good sign.
Starting point is 02:53:39 Let's check this out. And sure enough, when we set it off, it's a lot louder than it should be because we're just putting a cap and a little bit of um um a small charge on top to like blow up this 40 millimeter grenade and when i hit the detonator instead of it going pow like a rifle shot which is about what a detonator sounds like it's and like dirt starts falling from the sky and i was like well looks like we found a good one. He's like, yep, save somebody's life again. And we go back to work.
Starting point is 02:54:08 How big is a 40mm grenade? Is that like a handheld one? So it's just like it's the noob tube grenade from Call of Duty. It's the one you put in a grenade launcher. I think it uses like a.38 caliber blank in the back, and that bursts a copper disc, and that propels this, I think it's like half a pound, grenade really far.
Starting point is 02:54:28 Like, when I've shot them a lot, like the Thumper from, you know, Schwarzenegger had in Terminator 2. Like, we were playing around with one of those, shooting just chalk practice rounds, because when you hit shit with them, they explode in the big orange cloud, and it's like,
Starting point is 02:54:41 and the thing fucking keeps going, like three or four times as far as you think it would go so yeah those things are um heavy and powerful and you know just real cool but we found a hot one which was interesting um i've never seen anything like that before but it was it was a really really educational experience and that was the whole point it was a demolition class it was to make sure that i'm not gonna like, like, blow my fucking fingers off or hurt myself in any way. Because my fear was, you know, I don't know much about the detonation part. I don't know what kind of cap you use with this explosive versus that explosive.
Starting point is 02:55:15 And we learned a lot about that, everything from, you know, caps versus boosters, how to place the cap into different kinds of high explosive. We worked with C4, which was really cool. He's getting these explosives out for the day. He's like, yep, here's a pound of C4. And he hands me this big ball of C4 the size of a softball. And I'm like, all right, I'm holding this. He's like, here, take these shape charge.
Starting point is 02:55:37 And I'm holding all these shape charges. And he's like, all right, now take this explosive tape. And it looks like on the inside of a car door, if you pull it down that rubbery gasket stuff that's bendy it's like that except on the inside is high explosive so you just wrap this stuff around whatever you want it sticks to it and it's a shape charge so it cuts whatever it's on and it's very powerful he had uh he had sheet explosive which is about as thick as like i don't know like half those yellow post-its i don't know it's pretty thin sheet that's sticky on one side but it's high explosive again so you
Starting point is 02:56:13 can just put that sheet on anything and blow it the fuck up he takes women's panties puts them on a steel plate and then puts a layer of thin sheet explosive on top and when he detonates it it explodes the pattern of the panties onto the steel, and he makes artwork with that. That's his other thing. This guy works constantly. So when he's not scrapyarding, doing demo work, or traveling around doing TV shows,
Starting point is 02:56:39 he's been on a couple of Discovery shows. He was on CNN the other day demonstrating how that C4 killed that guy in Dallas. When he's not doing stuff like that, he's making wind chimes out of F-16 ammo and making these little goblin men out of propane tanks and artillery rounds and stuff. Yeah, yeah. It looks
Starting point is 02:56:56 like a little man, but you put a fire inside the propane tank and his eyes glow and everything. It's like a jack-o'-lantern made for war, but it's made out of a propane tank with lots of, uh, you know, he doesn't use a plasma cutter, he just explodes the cuts into it. Was this one class or do you have to go back again? Yeah, we're done.
Starting point is 02:57:12 Yeah, yeah. See, I told him what I wanted to learn going in and he did all of that, basically. Like, my concerns were, like I said, killing myself. I don't want to because one of my fears was man, when I set those charges up what is there a cell phone is there possibly a cell phone could interfere and i just you know
Starting point is 02:57:30 i'm downrange and i explode because eric's phone rings and he's like yeah yeah that is a thing turn your cell phones off if you're going to use these this transmitter and this receiver detonator system and i'm like well i just won't fucking use that he's like well don't you know it's it's useful sometimes so he shows me you, the correct way to use it. But still, I think initially the first thing I'm ordering should be able to order tomorrow. He should have me my contact details. He wanted to get me like a direct contact so I could get in with these people. But I'm getting the old school cowboy dynamite like you saw in cartoons, like Looney Tunes had, like Clint Eastwood had. It's
Starting point is 02:58:05 a red stick. I think it's a half pound each and with a fuse coming out the end. So you light it and throw it or do whatever you want. And I'm thinking a whole video just about dynamite. I'm going to buy a case or two of dynamite. And I'm thinking at first, you know, just say like, see that out there? That's dynamite. And then it goes off and you see what it does to something and then kind of progress up now here's a bundle of dynamite let's see what it does and you do that and then you start throwing them you start making a really long fuse like one that's like 15 as long as you want oh that'd be cool you not only could do that i could set it i could set it off in a mirror in many however I want. It could be a button. It could be lit, however I want.
Starting point is 02:58:49 I picture the opening scene with you talking, explaining what you're going to be doing today, and the fuse. Is that a fuse going behind him? Oh, it's like burning? Yeah, yeah. Not a real fast fuse. We've seen fuses so fast, like DetCore. Oh, it's instant.
Starting point is 02:59:04 If people haven't seen 27 000 feet per second i think yeah like i saw uh det cord go i'm gonna say it was like 200 yards and you can't see it go it's like like electricity or something like it's that fast i think it's 27 000 feet per second it's not actually as fast electricity but it's effectively instant. Electricity is 186,000 miles per second, not accounting for the resistance of the wires running through it. Well, it's probably not as fast as electricity. Right, right. But I'm just saying, in person, I can't – they're both right away. You can barely –
Starting point is 02:59:42 It's fast enough. You can see in Richard Ryan's videos you know he slows it way down and you can see it moving around and stuff but very fast stuff but if you were to do your intro with the fuse going and then boom and the other time it right that'd be pretty neat I also thought it'd be funny to get with the hydraulic press guy if he had his FFL, he'd just be blowing up, like, gummy bears and pillows and a bunch of spit knots that nobody cared about. Today we are going to blow
Starting point is 03:00:10 up a couch cushion with a quarter pound of dynamite. And it's like, goddammit, dude, this is so boring. Yeah, that's what he would do. Yeah, yeah. Because he's got this awesome hydraulic press.
Starting point is 03:00:24 He's like, watch me crush custard CD already flat so I didn't get to the best I didn't get to the best part and and I can't promise them everything I just said I can guarantee I'm gonna do because like we're ordering the fucking dynamite tomorrow and nothing I just said is sounds dangerous nobody's gonna
Starting point is 03:00:42 stop me from doing any of that shit but what I really want to do, and before I do it, I'm going to have to like, Matt already said it was cool that I, that I, that it's safe and that he didn't think I was an idiot for doing it. Um,
Starting point is 03:00:54 Kitty's pretty much pretty on the edge about it. And I'm going to talk to Richard Ryan, see what he thinks. And I may, I may call my, my, my guy at the ATF and ask him, but I want to use one of those rubber water balloon launchers that you pull
Starting point is 03:01:05 way back and launch water balloons like 100 yards. And I want to shoot sticks of dynamite out of that motherfucker. I want to stretch that dynamite back, aim at a car, fucking blow the car. And if it misses, just readjust. Just readjust. And you can aim for...
Starting point is 03:01:21 Have you ever seen the clip online of the lady doing the same thing with a watermelon and she pulls it back really hard and then she lets go and wouldn't you believe it the watermelon comes right back and concusses her is that a concern that you'll literally die so let me tell you what my thoughts are on that and it's a a good point. So first of all, the water... What do you agree? So first of all, I feel like this water balloon, the tubing that supports it, needs to be going in four directions
Starting point is 03:01:53 to make sure we've got a centralized firing point. And how the dynamite goes into the cup, as it were, is important. It doesn't need to be any bullshit where it could grab it and it goes back and throws it back at me. Also, the fuse on this dynamite is going to be quite long. These aren't going to be landing and then
Starting point is 03:02:10 blowing up. We're going to have to edit a little bit. I'm not going to cheat. I'm not going to pretend like I shoot it and then go out there and place some dynamite and then back up and start again and be like, let's see what it does. I'm not going to shoot road flares and pretend it's dynamite. I'm going to shoot dynamite through the rubber, the launcher,
Starting point is 03:02:27 but, you know, that shit's going to have, like, a 30-second fuse on it or something like that. So that if something happens, we just pick it up and throw it. I think what goes wrong is the pouch flips upside down. So they pull it. That's why I want it going from four different directions. So if you can imagine a pouch here. But that hurts it, too.
Starting point is 03:02:45 She had four, like a cross going everywhere. If I remember right, there are two posts. Because then it can't turn. Yeah, two posts, but I'm talking about four. Let me finish my thought. So there's two posts, and then there's elastic mounted at the top of each of them and the bottom of each of them. Ah, so that's no good.
Starting point is 03:03:02 That seems like four, right? It's not an X, though. It's not this. It's no good. That seems like four, right? It's not an X, though. It's not this. It's like that. We want this. We don't want it to be able to turn or twist at all. It's a square, right? There's two coming here, and there's two coming there.
Starting point is 03:03:17 Yeah, but they're coming from the corners down to the center, and instead they should be coming from the sides to the center. You think that makes it less likely to flip over? I think it makes it more likely. Yeah, I don't think it can flip over. I think it makes it easier to flip over. Well, there's going to be a good bit of trial and error. We're not going to start with diamond. Shoot a few water balloons before you...
Starting point is 03:03:36 I have an idea that's also neat and perhaps safer. You could have somebody else use the same setup, right? Like a big sling... Hear me out. Shoot a binary compound, and then you shoot it out of the air like skeet. Ah, I also have... I'm with you there, too. I have that one in the
Starting point is 03:03:56 back. The problem with that is this. I know it. It could explode when we launch it, because of the sensitivity of 22 sensitive binary compounds. Like if it's sensitive enough that a shotgun pellet is going to set it off, what's going to happen if when I let it go, it hits the cross ties in front of me or it hits one of the supports or it does that double back. I was going the other way. It's the acceleration of being released.
Starting point is 03:04:20 To me, the thing is you can't use a shotgun, right? You use something that a shotgun wouldn't work on like a tannerite for example right you'd have to hit it with like a 223 see the problem then is i'm firing a 223 into the air which is very dangerous your victim will be very far away they will exactly exactly towards the sea and if we had that that would be good like and there are places where we could go where that might be a that's a legitimate idea that's a good idea i like i would really like it and i would be much it would be much easier to hit for me at least if it were being thrown straight up like it like those targets are easy for me because you're just
Starting point is 03:05:00 working in one dimension up and down it's do you shoot under the target or over the target you know as it's flying through the air whereas if it's going left to right it could be rising falling flying away from flying toward you flailing like uh away from you and it's you know going left to right you know it's you're working in three dimensions when you're trying to hit a left to right target you need to make sure that your bullet lands in a bad part of town they'll never trace it back to you i could go out to the desert do that there are places where you're trying to hit a left or right target. You need to make sure that your bullet lands in a bad part of town. They'll never trace it back to you. I could go out to the desert and do that. There are places where you can go where it's 30, 40, 50 miles that way.
Starting point is 03:05:32 There's nothing but desert, and, you know, it would be safe. But then you've got to do a disclaimer because of, you know, the gun Nazis. And I don't blame them. Fire! Fire! I yelled for. What do you want? That doesn't work. Well, I yelled it loud for what do you want that doesn't work well i yelled it loud that was all i had that's as loud as i can yell i fired it i mean they didn't hear the gunshots coming no they're going faster than the speed of sound you asshole like so so yeah that's a concern i i would i would go somewhere where that we're safe we're going to do that. But it's a little scary, you know, shooting into the air.
Starting point is 03:06:07 I don't like doing that, especially with a rifle. But yeah, I love the idea of, I'm coming up with lots of ideas to do with these explosives. I think, I know putting high explosive inside of a barrel of water is incredibly interesting to watch. Because of the hydrodynamics involved. The way that water is conducted by the explosion, the way it's moved and the force it has. You can create a water jet with a little explosive, some water and a pipe that will cut right through steel.
Starting point is 03:06:36 You put your explosive here, your water in the pipe on the other end, the explosive will force that water with so much pressure, so much force and speed that it'll cut through steel like it's not even there. And I started thinking, let's forget about water. Let's just look at liquids. Mercury is a liquid. What happens when you use, you know, a liquid metal as the liquid thing that's being projected by an explosive?
Starting point is 03:07:01 So I'm looking at lots of things like that and trying to come up with things that haven't really been done before, but won't kill me or be really cool No, you probably couldn't do it with mercury though Because there's got to be some sort of environment thing where you can't just fire gallons of mercury around, you know hippies The blasting caps or use like lead azide or something like that. That shit's incredibly carcinogenic and toxic. Like most of the explosives
Starting point is 03:07:30 industry seems to kind of get away with that a lot because like every time we're setting something off, he's like, don't breathe that! Don't breathe that! He's like, let's just clear out before we go in there. He's like, that's lead. You see that cloud of smoke? That ain't smoke. That's lead. So, you know, we'll see where things go but i've got i've got so many fun ideas i want to launch things i
Starting point is 03:07:51 want to dig holes in the ground put lower the explosives to the bottom of the hole and then fill the hole up with a liquid what if we fill it up with jello you know what if we what do we what do we want to just eject all that jello straight up in the air like a jello fountain how about milk maybe the extreme heat will cause it to super curdle. Yeah, and you get cheese. It probably wouldn't work like that. I'm psyched for the cooler weather,
Starting point is 03:08:15 which ties into you making videos in my head. Oh, so big, yeah. Every time I go out like today, I put a mailbox up. I'm using fence post diggers and if any of you guys have probably both used them, it's a real workout to use those. It's very hard work, even if you're just digging one hole. If you're digging it for yourself and you want it to be the right depth and the right size and everything, you're doing a good job. And it's laborious.
Starting point is 03:08:39 It's laborious. It's rough. And I was sweating, just sweating balls. I don't know. The people that don't watch PKN, you really should. Check out Patreon. You get to watch PKN, and you can see how fucking emaciated I look yesterday. Yes.
Starting point is 03:08:54 Yeah, you can tell that you drank some water between then and now because you look like normal Kyle now. Yesterday, you really did look like we were in month seven of your HIV diagnosis, and we were all waiting for the inevitable. In the 80s. My immune system had already failed. It was shot. Soon the sores would start.
Starting point is 03:09:17 I looked pretty rough because I just sweated out all the liquid in me. The first day, I'm really polite when I'm in other people's company. I'll just take whatever you give me. I won't complain a bit. I don't drink water. I just don other people's company. I'll just take whatever you give me. I won't complain a bit. I don't drink water. I just don't. Not normally. I certainly don't drink tap water. He pours us some glasses of water and I'm just drinking them fucking down.
Starting point is 03:09:35 I'm not going to say a fucking word, but I only drank those two glasses of water all day. We were out there all day and I'm just dripping sweat the whole time. When I say dripping, I'm from Georgia. i've worked outside before you i'm used to seeing puddles of sweat on my arm but i'm used to also taking like a sleeve or a collar or like another shirt or something wiping it dry and then it just stays dry then like maybe after another 30 minutes of hard work
Starting point is 03:10:00 it'll be puddled again but no in texas it would puddle up and i'd wipe it off and it was like when you're in the if you try to dry off with your you ever been without a towel coming out of the shower and you try to just like flick it all off you and like shake like a dog yeah it was like that it just kept popping up off me and i was flicking my arm like that and i could see it spraying off of me it was so humid 100 degrees um but yeah it was a very good trip. I felt like I learned a lot, not just about keeping myself safe and running the business appropriately and correctly, but some theatrical stuff that'll really come in handy with what I do. He taught me how to make explosive bullets. And up until now, I've had such a hard time getting those.
Starting point is 03:10:41 When you see me with explosive bullets, shooting them fully automatically like they're candy, those are all that I have. And they cost me three, four, five dollars a piece or I had to work some weird deal to get them handmade. Those things are rare, unique, and expensive. And I'm usually getting a special version of them made just for me that the
Starting point is 03:11:00 public doesn't even get. But fuck all of those ammunition makers now. I'll make my own if I want. I'm gonna make my own. I might make my own and sell it. Because the ingredients are easy. It takes a drill, some super glue, and two chemicals that you order off the internet that are
Starting point is 03:11:15 perfectly legal to put on my shelf in large quantities. So I'm really looking forward to starting to tinker. I mean, the wheels are already turning. I started today with moving stuff around and getting that dynamite. I'll buy some of your munitions. Certainly, sir. I don't think they're legal there, though.
Starting point is 03:11:31 Yeah, I don't know. This is great. So do you guys know what happened with the governor of Missouri cutting the funding for the public defender's office? Oh, I heard about this. All right, so let me lay this out there. The governor of Missouri cut the funding for the public defender's department, office, whatever. Now, these are the people who, when you're too poor to get yourself a lawyer, that's what a public defender steps in. And he's a free lawyer for you provided by the state.
Starting point is 03:11:57 So the governor cuts their funding, I think, by 8.5%. It amounted to like $1.7 million. Those are loose facts. But what's important is what happened next. The guy who is in charge of the public defender's department, smart guy, he knew this little known statute, this little known Missouri state law that says that he, as the leader, the president, whatever his exact position is, of the public defender's office, can assign any lawyer, any lawyer in the state of Missouri to be a public defender in any case he wants. So he writes the governor, he writes the governor and he says, you know, you took this
Starting point is 03:12:38 money away. We needed this money, blah, blah, blah. You know, we needed it here. We need it there. These are our costs this is what you've done to us and at the bottom it's like uh so i would just like to inform you that according to statute 600.24r of the missouri state you know constitution i hereby notify you that you will that you need to you know that you need to show up and represent this guy to defend this guy in this court because the governor is a fucking lawyer he's like and he like names him by name he's i can't call it you know jay smith um you know and then he gave his like uh um bar number his number you know bar number six zero zero two six r i hereby notify you that on j on you know september 17th you will appear in court
Starting point is 03:13:22 to defend attached case and then at the bottom he cc'd in the whole attached case, the presiding judge, all that shit. Professional revenge. And it was on the ProRevenge subreddit. I'm not even going to coin that or anything. Professional revenge, literally. So good. So good. And he has to show, I think. I think he has to show.
Starting point is 03:13:40 I wonder how it plays out. I can't wait to see. This is all fresh stuff. Nobody really likes our politicians here too much everybody's had a sour taste ever since the uh illegitimate rape guy todd aiken remember that from a couple years ago when he's like well if it's a legitimate rape the female body has ways of shutting that down that's really interesting and rituals what was that i think he was recommending that women urinate or defecate on themselves and in case of rape it's like all right keep a load on deck at all times ladies
Starting point is 03:14:12 nothing sexier than that like although i gotta say that would really turn me off if i'm a would-be rape rapist and she immediately shits herself like i'm out of there i'd rather melissa have a gun like i'm out of there i'd rather melissa have a gun which is i'm gonna blow a whistle to notify surrounding area rapists that i'm here and then i'm going to shit myself like that no this is like dehumanizing people feel like oh you're gonna rape me oh not anymore motherfucker well this is like i'm going out for the night with the girls you You're like, oh, you got your ex-lax? Yeah, right here. All right, good. Have a good time.
Starting point is 03:14:48 Be safe. Taylor, can you stop making nothing but plum pudding for Friday night? This tastes weird. Let me sneak this ad in here. I think I got, oh, shit, that's right. Because I got disconnected, my ads fell away. I'll pull it right up. Pull it right up.
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Starting point is 03:17:03 That's a cool thing for them to kind of put their premise around. Because I think, you know, any of us who didn't grow up in the 50s are a little tired of the goody-two-shoes version of Superman. I liked when Superman cracked that guy's... Zod's neck. When he broke his neck in the movie and all these, like, Superman purists were like, oh, woe is me. I was like, no. I would like a little bit of dirt. Why did they say woe is me? I don't get it. Superman doesn't kill. Of course he doesn't.
Starting point is 03:17:24 a little bit why did they say what was me i don't get superman doesn't kill of course he doesn't kill people superman's always gonna like put you in some kind of galactic prison because uh oh was it superman who said it there's some he says something like when you kill a killer you don't the world doesn't lose a killer it just gains one more you know he said something like that and it's like yeah but isn't isn't General Zod like an alien general who's coming to destroy the whole planet? Didn't he destroy half the city? Also, it seems like that would only be true the first time you kill a killer.
Starting point is 03:17:54 If I kill lots of killers, then suddenly there's a net gain here. If Superman only killed one guy, yeah, okay, fair enough. But he's got laser eyes. He could fucking take out the whole prison system at a glance so i i like i like a dirtier superman i would like and this is what dc should have done and dc's really shit in the bed i think versus marvel and i hope it continues because i like
Starting point is 03:18:16 seeing major huge corporations billion dollar titans of industry just do something stupid that us in the general public kind of see why it's going it's going poorly but i i would love to see if they did an alternate universe superman not bizarro superman i don't want that that's i didn't like those comics i don't like the idea of bizarro superman and the whole thing is that you've still got original jor-el fighting bizarro superman like i don't want any of that i want alternate universe superman like they did with star trek where he's just a little darker he doesn't go to the kents he goes to the carls or something like that and you know they're kind of shitty maybe he grows up in russia i think maybe there's an i i have i don't know
Starting point is 03:18:54 this for a fact but i would i would i would bet that there's an there is a like graphic novel series and if there's not there should be where instead of landing in kansas he lands in siberia and he grows up in soviet russia as like the red titan or something like that that's the superhero comic i want to read i want to read about the soviet superman about the slums of rio de janeiro right like i don't know he'd leave and find a better place away say that about siberia ah just looking for a place that raises i mean kansas wasn't it wasn't a very nice place but at least in the slums of rio de janeiro he doesn't get beat and stabbed raped robbed and
Starting point is 03:19:29 the zika virus you know the u.s basketball team is staying on the boat yeah i can't believe i'm bringing this up but are you guys still playing pokemon go yeah um yeah oh go ahead because on reddit they're acting like it's over, it's dead. They're making fun of people still playing. Well, Reddit's not one for measured conversation. That's true. So, I still play not as much as I
Starting point is 03:19:56 did. I'm waiting on the PvP, and I think Taylor is too. I know he said that. I'm waiting on the game to grow some and to be doctored up a little bit. It's not a bad game. There's a lot of potential there. But I've kind of gotten through the initial part of the game. And I'm done with that. And now I'm ready for level two.
Starting point is 03:20:15 I feel like I've mastered single player in Call of Duty. Now it's time for multiplayer. It's just not out yet. I'm on the same page. I got to level 25 and I haven't played much in like the last really all week just because like i really realized like man i most of this like if this were any intellectual property other than pokemon i would not have put up with this nonsense i would not have put up with this horseshit like it's just the nostalgia of that was my favorite thing
Starting point is 03:20:42 growing up that's letting me deal with it so So I was like, fuck this. I'm going to play some Pokemon Red or Blue. And I was going to do that. And I was like, well, there's like huge amounts of Pokemon that I've never even played because I stopped playing the games like what was Silver and Gold came out in like 1999. And huge amounts.
Starting point is 03:21:02 Well. He makes a good point. Huge amounts. Yeah i think pokemon indigo indigo was the the real showstopper though i'd like to go back to that uh that rule set um the way those cards played it just felt natural to me um i wish i really wish they'd go back to that no but yeah i haven't been playing as much but i certainly played when i traveled because i was at the airport and an airport is like a playground. I sent you that picture, and it's just like Pokestop after Pokestop. So I'd walk the length of the terminal and come back, and I'd get a bunch of eggs.
Starting point is 03:21:33 And then, of course, in an airport, you're always on escalators and trains and such. So just hatching eggs nonstop. So it was fun for the travel trip. I liked that a lot. It worked well into the travel, and it helped me kill time at the airport. But I'm not playing as much as I used to. I'm not going out on adventures to get Pokemon because I've got so many. I've kind of caught all the ones I want.
Starting point is 03:21:52 Now I need something to do with them. That's what it's about. Now it's like, alright I got them. I got my Red Dot. I got my Silencer for my MP5. I got my Dead Silencer, my Juggernaut. Now we're the bad guys. Like that's what I'm waiting on now it's not that I've lost interest in the game
Starting point is 03:22:07 it's just that I want the game to expand now I wonder how much you guys would have played the game if you were in my position and were never into Pokemon earlier I wasn't either oh you weren't no I was cheesing about that Pokemon Indigo stuff I don't know anything about that shit
Starting point is 03:22:22 I don't know how old I was when Pokemon was big. It was probably 20s or 30s. Definitely not the right demo. I would say you were like 23 probably. You were right in the middle of school. Working hard and stuff. Every waking minute.
Starting point is 03:22:40 I was in middle school and to be honest, the kids that played Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh or shit shit, like, I didn't want to... That's not going to raise my social barometer at all by going and getting in that corner over there with those kids with the cards. That's how I looked at that, and that's how most people looked at that. And I think that was just our age group. Like, I think if we were three or four years younger, or maybe even three or four years older, we'd have been cooler for whatever reason, but it just didn't seem like the end thing when it was a thing and I was in middle school.
Starting point is 03:23:10 Gotcha. I'm going to try and fix your camera. Yeah, one of the drawbacks that I've got is this, and it's not unforeseen, One of the drawbacks that I've got is this, and it's not unforeseen, but I can't store blasting caps and boosters, you know, the things that are on the other end of the wire that initiate explosions. I can't store those with high explosive. That makes sense, of course. Right, right. So I've got to get another magazine. I'm going to get another.
Starting point is 03:23:43 You're right, right? How much is another magazine you know like five grand yeah like five more grand so for the time being um i think what i'm going to do is like first i'm getting that dynamite right that doesn't need a detonator you just light it with a fuse so i'll i'll get that case of dynamite i'll make a video with that dynamite. Use it all up. Get it all gone. And then I'll order detonators. And, you know, now there will just be detonators in the magazine. No more dynamite. I used it all.
Starting point is 03:24:13 And so now there's detonators in the magazine. And I'll use binary matonite, which is the equivalent of TNT and power. But I can store right here in my little room right here on the shelf. Because it's different components that are mixed. Only when they're mixed together do they become an explosive. So I can store them here, take them to my job site, mix them up together. Now I have high explosive, stick my detonator in that was all the while kept safe and logged in in my magazine, and rig up timed explosions.
Starting point is 03:24:41 Is there – I'm guessing one of these things is much smaller right like for a i'm making things up but let's say that you wanted to store your explosives maybe you need like half a con xbox but you want to store your blasting caps maybe something the size of a coffin or gun safe would do the trick is do you need another five thousand dollar magazine unfortunately the five thousand dollar one was the little one um i've got my magazine is is a is a square cute is a um a square yard or cubic yard it's three feet deep three feet high three feet wide on the inside diameters you know on the outside it's it's the walls are very thick there's three inches of hardwood and then there's fivehs of an inch of hardened armored steel. That takes up some room.
Starting point is 03:25:28 But on the inside diameters, it's a cubic yard. I'm going to need another one of those, most likely. Can you make a magazine? You can. It costs just about the same as buying one. But you end up with a much bigger magazine. See, I could build a very large magazine for the same cost as a cubic yard one. The difference is this. Armag makes those, that company that we both have looked at on the Internet.
Starting point is 03:25:55 I went up to their place and looked at what they did. They're known very well in the industry for being the best at what they do. When the ATF inspectors came out and they looked at my Armag magazine, they went, oh, you got the Armag. Well, our work here is just about done. Let's just go over some paperwork because the dimensions and the specifications of an Armag are a known quantity. You know that they meet or exceed ATF recommendations just by definition. It's what they do. So there's something to be said about dropping five grand and in five days having your thing versus buying $5,000 worth of supplies and having them delivered on different days and getting a crew of men to come work and convert a Connex box into a ATF specification magazine.
Starting point is 03:26:41 So what I'm just going to do is just, you know, for the time being, either have explosives in there or detonators. And that'll mean that if I want to do C4, I'll have to get Richard to come and like bring some caps or something. But he's just up in Tennessee. That's not a big deal. And I'd like to have him here for C4. But I'll get one eventually. I'll get one probably within the year. But for the time being, I can do all that fuse lit stuff. within the year but for the time being I can do all that fuse lit stuff and I can make my own high explosives that are also few sensitive and there's lots of stuff that shock sensitive that I can just shoot so I'm gonna be able to do a big variety of stuff anyway I'll just switch out whether it's the explosives
Starting point is 03:27:16 in the mag or the the detonators in the mag it's really fun to learn that stuff like I like it felt just like you know it's like i mean i'm taking notes the whole time he's writing on a marker board and i'm you know writing these rules down and fucking making tables and stuff and trying to memorize and i really loved every minute of it i especially enjoyed the chemistry i i'm very ignorant when it comes to chemistry but i know the basics and so watching him is just so nice so fun it's it's like you know when walter white would kind of start talking about chemistry and you'd become engrossed in his passion for it
Starting point is 03:27:47 and it made you almost feel the same way. That's how it is with this guy. But he's putting it to practical use. You know, he's like, ah, this right here is urea. He pours the urea in the container. He's like, this is 22% ammonia. Now, you can't buy this at the store. I made my own.
Starting point is 03:28:04 And when you pour it in there, you start getting these dark indigo purple crystals. And I sent you a picture, and it was blue. But as he added more ammonia and let the reaction take place, it turned darker and darker purple. And we were filtering it through a coffee filter. So when we pulled the coffee filter out, it's just full of these high-explosive crystals just just a whole handful of them And we made it in just a minute, and we make we made three different kinds of high explosive like that Just just adding one chemical to the area if he can do breaking bad like ninja shit like oh yes Yeah, I asked him the I said the RV won't start you know yeah sure well fuck
Starting point is 03:28:40 We got like a spare tire around here some bubble gum and cellophane I can make a battery. Absolutely. I would believe they could do that. I said, you know, Walter White, he's never seen Breaking Bad, but he watched the first episode and he's got a general knowledge because people come to him a lot and mention it.
Starting point is 03:28:57 I asked him if he could make meth first of all. He's like, you've seen the people that make that stuff. Of course I can make meth. And then I was like, what do you know about mercury fulminate? Or fulminated mercury, as some people call it. Because that's what Walter White used in the episode, like a bag full of ice or something. Bag full of something. Bag full of money, maybe, where he takes that crystal and throws it behind Tuco's head and blows the windows out.
Starting point is 03:29:21 That's fulminated mercury. You take mercury and you dissolve it into nitric acid and then you add ethanol. There you go. You're done. You get these big, pretty crystals if you do it right. I was like, how hard is that stuff to make? How sensitive is it? Would it blow that
Starting point is 03:29:37 window out? He's like, if you had it in a big enough chunk, yeah, it probably would. And I was just like, oh. Yeah. It's like yeah yeah because we we basically just done that to the syllabus we did we one of the other explosives that we just had made was the exact same process except without the ethanol being poured in we just had dissolved uh copper sulfate i think maybe not sulfate maybe it was sulfide i get i'm not a chemist here he dissolved a copper copper sulfate i believe into nitric acid and uh and that's how
Starting point is 03:30:12 we made one of our other explosives you know it was um it was a lot of fun we did everything from like i said make explosives from scratch in a laboratory with you know in this like controlled environment and everything uh we made explosive bullets by hand. But the explosives training was really what I was there for, learning to set detonators safely. And, you know, because there's a protocol to do things the right way. And he mentioned to me something that really sparked my interest. He said that I could go to Texas A&M and they have a four-week class. It costs 10 grand.
Starting point is 03:30:41 And I would get certified to do UXO work, which, if I'm not mistaken, is overseas bomb disposal for the government. And he talked about how well these jobs paid. And immediately I was like, could I go and film these jobs? Could I bring the camera crew along with me? Because you're going and detonating 2,000-pound bombs in the jungle and shit. And he was talking about how well these companies treat you. He's like, your per diem is like two hundred dollars a day and your hourly rate is
Starting point is 03:31:08 this he's like you're clearing 750 a day you'll work for four weeks he's like it's hard work and it's hot but you're blowing shit up all day he's like and then you get two weeks off and they'll send you home they'll fly you home for free and fly you back for free and they'll pay you the whole time you're gone he's like but what what i had my wife with me, so I just had them send me somewhere else on the globe. I'd just make that a two-week vacation to somewhere else on the world. And I went to this beach and that beach and went spearfishing here and surfing there. And it was just like, wow, that sounds cool. So I'm not saying I will, but I'm strongly considering this class and i was i asked him i
Starting point is 03:31:46 was like how difficult is this class you know am i embarking on some college level stuff here that that's going to be over my head i was like i was like how hard is it he's like oh they start off with decimals you learn decimal points first so okay a kilometer is a thousand meters so what is what is you know 500 meters 0.5k he literally explained he's like now that's not i don't want to disparage anybody who does that for a living that there's tons of technical learning that would be you know practical learning you know the things like what learned, but four weeks of it. So that kind of sparked my interest, the idea of doing that. Especially if I could film it, if I could
Starting point is 03:32:30 work that into YouTube videos. If I could go to Guam for a week and blow up lots of old military ordnance from World War II or something and film it and get that free footage and all those free explosives and stuff and get paid. That sounded like a... That really sparked my interest.
Starting point is 03:32:46 I'm not saying I'm going to go through with it, but I'm definitely looking into it. That sounds neat. Yeah, and it's a nice little qualification to have. There's so many little things, little clubs and cliques that I have to join. I'm the member of some sort of the Explosive Engineers of America or something now.
Starting point is 03:33:04 It's $100. I get in a magazine, and they give me a bumper sticker. Yeah, whatever it is. Yeah, there's two or three things. Do you mind if I, because I was talking about Pokemon, and I didn't want to, it wasn't related to Pokemon Go. I wanted to bring it back up real quick because I think I got cut off when I got disconnected.
Starting point is 03:33:20 Yeah, we're just messing around while you're gone. So Pokemon Go go i completely lost interest in for now until they add pvp because i just feel like i'm grinding for no reward but i bought a uh game boy sp2 to s2ds a game boy 2ds doesn't fold over it looks kind of like a play school toy and feels like it too it's's got two screens. How much is it? 20 bucks? No, it was like 90 bucks maybe. And it was like 140 bucks for the 3DS. But I didn't want to play the game in 3D anyway. That seemed stupid.
Starting point is 03:33:55 But this Pokemon game, I thought it would... Because the Pokemon are a little bit dumber. Like there's one that evolves into basically a washing machine that's water type. And you can have one that evolves into a lawnmower which is grass type it's so much more far fetched tell me more about this lawnmower I know
Starting point is 03:34:12 now Woody's in this conclave it is so much more fun than Pokemon Go it's not even funny you have to actually like Pokemon to play it and I'm really enjoying it. The thing they did that's also good is in the first games, Red and Blue, they'd have super dope
Starting point is 03:34:31 Pokemon, like an Aerodactyl, which is like a giant, flying, rock pterodactyl-looking Pokemon, and you'd always want to use it when you were playing, but the problem was, it's like, well, fuck, I can't catch this Pokemon until I've done everything in the game, and by that point, it's like, what's the point? I can't catch this Pokemon until I've done everything in the game and by that point it's like what's the point like I can't even use it for anything in this game you're getting cool awesome fun to use Pokemon
Starting point is 03:34:50 early in the game and so you can use them like your whole way training up which is great so I'm sure people out there know way more about it than me and I'm not playing it that well but there's a one that looks like a t-rex and I'm a huge fan so so that's about that anyway that sounds T-Rex and I'm a huge fan. So that's about that. That sounds fun. I haven't had a handheld game since the original Game Boy. Because to me as a kid, I didn't understand. Portability, I didn't care about.
Starting point is 03:35:17 Because if I'm going out somewhere, I want to do that thing. I never cared about bringing the video games with me, really. I always wanted a station that I could sit back, relax with my food and my snacks and my video games and stuff so like handheld stuff never really appealed it was fun to battle with your friends like that was the point though like you bring it to school and then you'd battle over recess until the teachers would come over and be like you're not allowed to do that or even crazier like they those pokemon evolve it's a satanic. And I heard that quite a few times. My mom, when I was little, used to be like, and she's not like this anymore,
Starting point is 03:35:49 but she was way hardcore Christian, and she'd be like, you can play Pokemon, but you can't raise any psychic-type Pokemon. And I'd be like, yeah, right, Mom. Like, you're going to check out my lineup. But I'd just be like, yeah, sure, whatever. But that was just looking back. Like, as a kid at the time i'm
Starting point is 03:36:05 like well them's the rules kid like that you just gotta listen to your parents kind of but i didn't but looking back it's like god damn like that was fucking stupid that is stone cold stupid yeah especially but yeah the the i i really don't like that side of christianity that when the part that is afraid of witchcraft and wizardry and childhood fun things like Halloween when you say wizardry it hammers down how ridiculous it is doesn't it
Starting point is 03:36:34 you know these people they're anti Harry Potter and it's like man I'm a little too old to have read all the fucking Harry Potter books and watched all the movies but I did and I loved every fucking second of it i took a two or three different dates to those harry you read all the books too oh yeah oh yeah like i consumed them my wife's right there she's read them all and watched it oh they eating you can see what my brain just did reading a harry
Starting point is 03:37:01 potter book is like consuming something that's delicious. And you, and, and the more you eat, the more you want to eat it. You want, you just don't get full of it. It's like, it's,
Starting point is 03:37:10 it's just so good because it's, it's easy reading. It's a child's book. So you're not, you just, you really going through it fucking fast and you care about the characters, but he, but JK Rowling does this thing a little bit like,
Starting point is 03:37:23 um, um, shithead that, that, that writes, uh, gamer thrones in that she describes all the food really well. And Harry Potter food is really nice food because it's magic food for children, right? So, of course, think about that. You know, everything's succulent and sweet. And just the idea of butterbeer, this caramely, buttery, alcoholic beverage that these children are consuming.
Starting point is 03:37:45 It sounds so good. All the meats that they're eating when they have their feasts, they have these big banquet feasts constantly in Harry Potter. And even just the meals they're having, it's always puddings and pies and chicken this. Everything's always delicious. So her writing style is very good. It's very descriptive.
Starting point is 03:38:06 You know what the room looks like like you know what everybody looks at it we've said all these things about um about the game of thrones author whose whose name's escaping me right now garr martin garr martin yeah yeah so um yeah i love the harry potter series i really consumed all that i i would i should probably read it again i own all the books was it one of those series where, like, when you get towards the end, you start to get stressed out because you're like, oh, it's ending? Oh, shit, I've only got three or four pages. I can make it last. I definitely cried in the movie. I definitely cried when, I won't say which character, but in the second to last movie, a really cool,
Starting point is 03:38:44 nice, cute character bites it to save someone's life he gives his life to save another and it is sad it's like a puppy getting ran over or something except dickersby or whatever the hell that guy's name fucking dobby is his name and dobby is just the most selfless dobby dobby is the most selfless character in the whole story every step of the way every step of the way he's sacrificing not just his time but his life he's like he's like doobie's here for you sir whatever you need he's you know he's a house elf and you know harry potter's giving him giving him his freedom with the clothes and like you know freed him from slavery and so he's just he gives his life and it's just such a moment where he's just like,
Starting point is 03:39:26 got like a blade in him and he's dying, but he's still worried about his friends. And it's a really heartfelt moment. Oh, let me tell you what else is heartfelt. I watched the commercial for Hacksaw Ridge and it made me cry too. Maybe I'm just getting a little emotional these days. So Hacksaw Ridge is the new Mel Gibson movie.
Starting point is 03:39:42 He's directing this thing. It's a World War II story about – it's a true story about this guy who was a – he wanted to go fight. He was supposed to be a doctor. I think he had a medical license. He was a doctor, and he was, like, ready to start his practice. But he even says in the preview, he's like, it doesn't feel right, all of them to go over there and fight for my freedom while I stay over here. And his dad's telling him, you know, don't go, don't go.
Starting point is 03:40:10 But he joins the Marines, I think. But he won't touch a rifle. He tells him, he's like, I can't kill another man. And so they just, they beat him, they humiliate him, they just, I think he has to go through some court-martial proceeding where finally some head poobah says,
Starting point is 03:40:26 if you're willing to step into the fire of battle without anything to defend you, then so be it. And so he goes into battle with just his medical kit. And there's this scenario where his men get massacred. They climb this cliff, and then the battle's up there. And his men have been massacred, and they get pushed back, and everybody's down below, fucked up. And the next next day they look and the wounded are all piled up at the hospital they've all been brought down and they said who did this who did this and they're like the coward he did
Starting point is 03:40:54 it he's been crawling up that rope all night and lowering the injured down he's been crawling into enemy territory and dragging him out i'm a little choked up now thinking about it. He says he's got this line in the movie. He's oh man, I'm going to cry. He says because he's got this southern accent. He goes please Lord, just help me get one more. Please Lord, just one more. And he's just digging
Starting point is 03:41:18 trying to get the end. There's this one part where the enemy's coming and the guy's laying there. He's shot. Maybe his guts are out or something. He's bleeding. He's like help me, help me. And he's like just trust me. laying there he's shot maybe his guts are out or something he's bleeding he's like help me help me and he's like just trust me and he's like buries him alive and he buries them both alive so the and like the enemy's coming and you just see like an eye looking and then he you know uncovers him and lowers him down the cliff again and i don't know how many he lowered but it's a true story and it's dozens or something like that um i can't wait to see it because you know the battle footage is you battle footage, it looked like
Starting point is 03:41:45 Saving Private Ryan. People being blown around. Mel Gibson is an incredible director. Apocalypto, Braveheart, Passion of the Christ. It sounds kind of like have you ever seen Schindler's List? Yes. Where at the end,
Starting point is 03:42:01 all the Jews that he saved are standing there and it's all heartbreaking because they're thanking him. He's the end, he's like, and like all the Jews that he saved are standing there and it's like all heartbreaking because they're like thanking him. And he's just like, you know, this watch, this watch, I could have saved three more with this watch. You know, I should have done more. I should have like, that was a heartbreaking scene. And the guy's like, he's like, look how you saved so many. You saved so many.
Starting point is 03:42:20 It could have been more like this watch three, you know, this suit two more. Like it's a really, really good movie. It could have been more. Like this watch three. This suit. Two more. It's a really, really good movie. It doesn't compare, but I saw a movie today. What did you see? The new Star Trek. Ah! I loved it.
Starting point is 03:42:37 I laughed. I cried. I freaking like Star Trek. I'm coming to realize this. Is it sad? Or Anton Yeltsin. Wait, you what? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy that plays Chekhov.
Starting point is 03:42:47 He dies in real life. In the movie, it's not impacted, but he died in real life. And, but dude, so Star Wars, right, is like space pirates, right? They've got their lightsabers. They jump around. They literally swing on ropes and stuff. It's whatever. They jump around.
Starting point is 03:43:03 They literally swing on ropes and stuff. It's whatever. And Star Trek has always kind of been like the office version of Star Wars. Like they all seem to be in cubicles making decisions. That's changing, man. Since the reboot, I really feel like Star Trek is like that's the one where people swing around and go skydiving and shit like that all the time. They always seem to be defying gravity and extreme sports meets space. It's like the entire
Starting point is 03:43:32 bridge crew just left the X Games and they're applying that knowledge and that skill set to fucking space exploration. Well we need to get down there. We could either I don't know use some space rope or maybe we could beam down or maybe a shovel craft would lower us like it's like
Starting point is 03:43:47 somehow bungee jumping is involved in solving this problem that they're having i can't give away any spoilers but rock music literally plays a major plot role in the climax of this thing. And then they blast the rock music and the other people are like, we figured out the frequency for dealing with these guys. And it's fucking Beastie Boys rocking in the speakers. I loved it.
Starting point is 03:44:21 I ate it all up. It was great. It was fantastic. Yeah, Sab all up. It was great. It was fantastic. Is that the song you planned? Yeah. Sabotage. Oh, it was really fun. Sabotage.
Starting point is 03:44:30 And they're fucking, like, blasting you through the vacuum of space. And, you know, it's the greatest, greatest thing. And I think about that in comparing to Star Wars, which I also enjoy. And you've got, like, who plays Han Solo? I can't think of his name right now. also enjoy. And you've got like... Who plays Han Solo? I can't think of his name right now. Harrison Ford. Thank you. You've got Harrison Ford,
Starting point is 03:44:49 who I think is like 112 years old right now, limping around. And you're like, ooh, is it okay for this guy to walk on uneven ground? He's like Chewie. You think we could do another sequel, Chewie? No! And Harrison Ford
Starting point is 03:45:06 it's just like gingerly walking like watching every step like an old man on the ice and uh just by comparison it's like dude
Starting point is 03:45:14 my medic alert works out here in space yeah Star Trek all senior citizens should have life alert does your wookie
Starting point is 03:45:24 have diabetes? Star Trek is the awesome series right now. Star Wars needs a reboot or something. You've got to get rid of Han Solo. You've got to get rid of Carrie Fisher. They're getting one. Come on. Rogue One. Coming soon. Filming's already wrapped. Hell, they filmed it twice. It can't be bad. Did you know that?
Starting point is 03:45:39 Rogue One is a new chapter in this whole thing. The thing about it is they filmed it. They got it done. And then they were like, no, no. They re-filmed 70% of it. They filmed it, looked at it, and were like, not up to par. They did 70% of it over again.
Starting point is 03:45:57 It took months and months. It's wrapped. I wish I could do that with my vlogs. I never know if my vlog is going to be good until I edit it. And I'm like, ah, you really gave yourself shit to work with today, Woody. Sometimes that happens. It's like I'm going to be spending eight minutes here
Starting point is 03:46:11 at the dryer waiting on my shirt. Let's do a time lapse while it spins. It was a really chore-heavy day. Lots of waiting in the dishwasher to finish. Put some cane in there. But yeah, they they reshot it that's cool i'm glad that they've got the budget for that yeah that's a good sign yeah they got but i heard um if they didn't have it i'd be upset i forget what it was it might have been batman versus superman one of
Starting point is 03:46:38 the dc things after the success of deadpool oh it was was Suicide Squad. That's Marvel. You probably know that. I'm sorry. Yeah, so Deadpool came out. Everybody loved it. And I think it was Suicide Squad who was like, you know, there's no funny in this. That's horrible. 27% on Rotten Tomatoes. I've heard that. I'm still going to see it.
Starting point is 03:47:00 But yeah, I heard they went back and shot some new scenes so they could interject some humor in it here and there. You know, what's his name that's playing the Joker in this? His name's escaping me right now. Yeah, Leto or something? Yeah, Jared Leto. So he's an incredible actor.
Starting point is 03:47:19 If you've never seen The Dallas Buyers Club and you feel like crying again, a lot of these movies are making me cry. Watch that. AIDS victims and Jared Leto plays a transsexual very well. He's pretty hot. So he plays the Joker in this new movie, and I saw him on Jimmy Kimmel's show. And if you don't know, Jared Leto is a method actor. He takes it very seriously. He is the Joker the whole time.
Starting point is 03:47:42 And the Joker's a real motherfucker, right? So the whole time he's sending his's a real motherfucker, right? So the whole time, he's sending his co-stars all these weird gifs. Dead rats, live rats in boxes, snakes, rotten meat, that sort of thing. It'll say, It's from Mr. J! You know, but it's a fucking snake.
Starting point is 03:47:57 So he's out there on Jimmy Kimmel's show. He looks deranged. Okay? He has the eyes of someone who is being overly medicated or not medicated enough one or the other he's wearing a christmas sweater like an ugly one and this is recent this is like last week a christmas sweater with like a tiger in like like sewn into the front because it's like a knitted sweater it's like a tiger's face on the front and it's ass on the back it's just bizarre it's not interesting the back it's just bizarre
Starting point is 03:48:25 it's not interesting or cool it's just bizarre and he's just wild eyed the whole time he's like and jimmy was like he's like i brought you a brought you and he's not being the joker he's being jared leto but he's being weird and he's just like i got you something i got you a little gift here and jimmy kimmel's like he opens it up and it's a fucking snake the snake comes out of the box jimmy's clearly terrified it's um jimmy he's it's not fucking snake the snake comes out of the box Jimmy's clearly terrified it's um it's not Jimmy Kimmel it's Jimmy Fallon I'm sorry I probably have been saying it the whole time Jimmy Fallon is
Starting point is 03:48:52 terrified of snakes he jumps up and he's like trying to get away from the snake and like it gets out on the floor and Leto goes over there and just snatches it up and he keeps fucking with him he keeps oh you don't like it you don't you don't like it and it's a little snake but still it's a fucking snake you don't like it? You don't like it? And it's a little snake, but still, it's a fucking snake. And he's like, no, no, I don't.
Starting point is 03:49:08 He's trying not to be a bitch on live TV, but it's clear he does not like that snake that he keeps poking at him with. So, I don't know. On one hand, I love Daniel Day-Lewis, and he's a method actor, and I think he's the best actor there's ever been. That guy's been in, like, seven
Starting point is 03:49:24 movies and won, like like three Oscars. Gangs of New York. Yeah, there will be blood. My Left Foot. If you look at Daniel Day-Lewis' body of work, he picks a movie every three, four, five, six years. He's been off for six or seven now maybe. And then he wins an Oscar. Or he's always nominated for one every time.
Starting point is 03:49:44 Daniel Day-Lewis is the man. He's the best American actor that's alive right now and kicking. and then he wins an oscar or or he gets he's always nominated for one every time daniel dade lewis is the man he's our he's the best american actor that that's alive right now and kicking um and he has been for a long time he's just so selective if he picked more scripts we we'd all know him he'd be a bigger name but he's whatever but and i really respect that he's a method actor when he played lincoln he's walking around the set he's mr president right he's got the beard the hat the whole thing all right you know that's not how I would have done it, but what the fuck do I know about playing Lincoln, Daniel Day-Lewis, with your three Oscars? But when I hear that Jared Leto is, you know, being Mr. J and, like, giving people rotten meat
Starting point is 03:50:17 and snakes and stuff, it's just like, no, dude, just tone it down, because the Joker isn't even a big role in this movie. Let's remember that, too. It's not like this is the Joker. It's not like it's the Suicide Squad led by the Joker. He's just an ancillary character. He's probably the fifth most credited guy on the screen or something like that. He's in the middle. He's not a main character. He's just in there a little, and he's just
Starting point is 03:50:37 taking it way too far. And from what I read, he really pissed off a lot of his co-workers, or at least some of them, that didn't want to get dead rats in the dressing room. Yeah, you shouldn't be sending dead animals to people as a way of his co-workers, or at least some of them, that didn't want to get dead rats in the dressing room. Yeah, you shouldn't be sending dead animals to people as a way of making yourself a better... How does that help him be a better actor? I think he was trying to creep...
Starting point is 03:50:53 He's trying to get into the idea of being a weird fucking creepy guy who does things just to mess with people, and I think he's also trying to creep out his co-stars. You look back to The Shining, the whole time Stanley Kubrick is turning the entire rest of the cast against shelly duvall so and he does and the film was filmed chronologically so throughout the film he's doing it more and more so like let's say um there's a power surge
Starting point is 03:51:17 and like the lighting goes down and we can't film today but everybody's here in costume and everything right it's a real bummer k Kubrick would yell at Shelley Duvall. He would blame her for this lighting mishap and publicly, like, ah, here we go again, Shelley. I guess we're on your time, huh? All right, everybody, let's wait. Let's wait on Shelley.
Starting point is 03:51:37 And he just kept reinforcing this, and everybody started disliking her. So in actuality, in real life, Shelley Duvall, by the end of the film, is feeling a little bit uncomfortable and unsafe and unhappy with being around her co-star. It shows. Yeah. And I love – I bet you guys, if you're on Reddit, maybe you've seen it.
Starting point is 03:51:55 But there's this scene of Jack Nicholson getting amped up for the big scene where he puts the axe through the fucking wall. And he is like – He's like high-kneeing it. Yeah, he's like high-kneeing it, walking around the room with the axe through the through the fucking wall and he is like high knee in it yeah he's like high knee in it walking around the room with the axe he's like swinging it and there's some like sound guy or some guy like checking the props making sure it's all good trying to like get out of the room and he's like like going around jack in like a weird way so he doesn't get near the axe in the handle because he's just swinging it around like a fucking maniac. Getting like...
Starting point is 03:52:27 So he gets that Here's Johnny! It's just every fiber of him. I love that movie. It's one of my favorites. That's about a show, right? If somebody who worked at Subway always dressed like they did at Subway to better prepare for being a sandwich
Starting point is 03:52:44 artist, I think that would be really douchey. And I don't really think that changes with acting. always dressed like they did at subway to better prepare for being a sandwich artist like i think that would be really douchey and i don't really think that changes but with acting if you start studying the earl of sandwich to learn more about the history of sandwiches and when mayonnaise came into play and all that stuff yeah well we don't need to mulch over the storied history of sandwiches again trying to oh i got one more thing hope is starting to drive storied history of sandwiches again. Oh, I got one more thing. Hope is starting to drive.
Starting point is 03:53:12 So Hope was, you know, she was anxious about driving. It was something she built up in her head. I've had things like that in my life before, but not driving, so it's always been hard for me to empathize. And she started taking driving lessons. She's had two out of the three so far. Her last one is Saturday, the day this video goes up.
Starting point is 03:53:29 And it looks like Monday she'll take her test. Oh. Yeah. Is she ready? No, she's not. Like, I guess. I mean, like, I got to remember, like, when I got my license, I'm a better driver now than I was then.
Starting point is 03:53:47 Yeah, we all are. I remember I was showing my father. I was like, trick driving. And there's a red light, and then there was a bar on the corner. So I went through the parking lot to get around the red light because I had thought of something, of course, no other driver had ever thought of. And then as I'm pulling back into traffic i cut this guy off and it's fast it's like 50 miles an hour or something and my dad is like whoa whoa whoa whoa and uh i'm like i'm sorry it doesn't usually go down like that and he's like you are lucky
Starting point is 03:54:19 that guy's a good driver because if he wasn't a good driver he'd have hit you and uh it's like in my head i'm like but i'm a good i guess no no i'm not a good driver you know i'm very lucky that you're an aspiring good driver yeah i think it's better that hope is being cautious because a lot of people have the like gung-ho i'm free i i'm invincible attitude when they get their license i definitely was more in that camp than the oh dear i don't want to you know go too quick on the highway um but looking back like yeah i get nervous when i see someone on the road who i think is like about 16 17 18 just because it's like oh fuck i know what i was like at that age and i shouldn't have been driving probably too cautious is better but there is too much of a good thing.
Starting point is 03:55:06 So, for example, she was pulling onto the interstate, right? 70 miles an hour on this road. It's like four lanes wide. And she's trying to merge at like 40 miles an hour. Oh, yeah. Oh, Jesus. Right? So people are like zipping by, and I'm like urgently like,
Starting point is 03:55:21 Hope, you have got to hit the gas right now. You got to match the speed of this highway here. And to her credit, she did and she worked her way in. But it's like the problem, the reason you can't find an open spot is that you're going 30 miles an hour slower than the rest of the people here. Yeah. You know, you got to accelerate in the acceleration lane. And then we were coming off the highway, similar type thing. So people are like annoyed-ish, you you know being behind her going the exact speed
Starting point is 03:55:47 limit so when the right lane opened up this guy and to hope's credit it was kind of his fault he was being a douche but like he tucks in hits the gas and passes her on the right in the exit lane and um yeah all right that's not good driving you She was going the speed limit. You don't have to start speeding in the exit lane past her. I do. It's 70. Alright, so my thing about driving is I always go really fucking fast. And I think it's safer
Starting point is 03:56:16 for me to go really fucking fast because my relationship in conjunction to the rest of traffic is only one way. I'm faster than everybody else. So I'm moving past them at all times. There's nobody creeping up in my blind spot for me to merge into.
Starting point is 03:56:32 And there's nobody passing me on the right side ever either. I pass on the right side a lot. I feel like, because I feel like getting on someone. And when you drive by a car, it's like scraping your blind spot. Like now you know it's clear. You know exactly what's there because as you're passing people. Exactly, and I look forward
Starting point is 03:56:44 in that, and I'm looking for it. so like, I'm like, all right, passing the red car. And then I can look in my mirror and I see red car. And I know everything behind red car is behind me. Like there's nothing between me and red car. And I, and that's in my head as I'm driving. And that keeps me safe because there's never anything in my blind spot because there is no blind spot. Um, it, but merging but merging onto yeah that's one thing where like i don't know what would make her more confident i mean she's taking driving classes i'm sure i'm sure she's gonna get the hang of it but like but yeah she's pulling off and a guy passed her in the exit lane like he he accelerated in the deceleration lane i think really perhaps he
Starting point is 03:57:21 was the dick you know she was going to speed limit but that happened and it's like you know if she could if she just got a little more comfortable with the flow of traffic instead of the number on the sign then everything would go a little smoother but by and large you know she took us to the movies and back and everything went fine uh she just you know gotta get comfortable with the flow of traffic. One thing that always makes... The thing that makes me comfortable in every scenario, no matter what it is, is to go to the extreme immediately. It's like, are you afraid? I feel like getting in a car and going out in the field
Starting point is 03:57:54 and feeling what it takes to make the car fucking lose control and spin out. It's like, oh, well now I know where the edge is. Now I know where the edge is every single time. I drove a car under a tree one time for fun. It was a junk car. It was a $400 car. I wanted to feel what it was like to hit a tree going 20 miles an hour, so I did. Wasn't that fucking bad? After that, I had a real
Starting point is 03:58:15 appreciation for what 30 might feel like, though, because 20 fucking bruised my shoulder and gave me a bit of a headache. But I watched this thing on like 2020 or something, this guy who did it for a living. He like crashed cars for a living and he showed his technique. He had catcher's gear on his knees and shins. He talked about when he like made impact, he would take his hands off the wheel
Starting point is 03:58:40 and put them like this so that you're not, you know, so that you're not breaking your hands, messing up your wrists, your arms. They're not hitting anything. Your hands are right here. And he's talking about staying in this safe zone because you're wrapped in a cage and everything. And all the things
Starting point is 03:58:56 that injure you in car accidents, how to avoid them. Because he crashed. They had some number. A thousand cars. The man who's been in 10,000 car crashes. Next on 60 Minutes. You know how it goes. So I was like, fuck it, I'm going to go do that. Hit the thing going 20 miles an hour.
Starting point is 03:59:12 And from then on, I had so much respect for what collisions were about, what they felt like, and all that stuff. It's like, shit, if I hit that fucking thing, it's not the end of the world. So if it's between heading into oncoming traffic and just bumping a tree, let's bump some trees. I don't know. Little things like that. I always go to the extreme and go ahead and wreck or fall.
Starting point is 03:59:32 I want to fall, get hurt right here, right now in practice. I want to see what that's like, where the edge is, where you can't push things anymore. I want to experience it now in practice so that when I get out there and I'm trying to race someone or I'm trying to shoot some target that's moving fast, that I've done it before and I know what it's going to be like. I don't know. That always makes me feel better. Trying to figure out how to apply this to paramotoring? I think I'd die in that scenario. I think you'd die.
Starting point is 03:59:57 I think if you apply this to anything and you're not at least 10% lucky, it could go catastrophically wrong. Oh, I'm like a Fallout character. I've got fucking 20% or 30% luck or something. You're all in luck. I put all those stars in luck. Yeah, I use all my points that way. All right. Let me do our last two little ad reads.
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