Painkiller Already - PKA 575 w/Destiny: Impractical Jokers, Christmas presents, Trial Verdict

Episode Date: December 25, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 P.K.A. 575 with our guest, Destiny Taylor. This episode of P.K.A. brought to you by Blue Chew, Feels CBD, Smart Mouth, Lock and Load, the best cum pills in existence, and Hats and Scarves. No more sweaters, guys. Sorry. Only Hats and Scarves left. So if you want that, go down below, click the link, and all that good stuff. Destiny, it's been a bit. Yeah. Yeah. What's up? So, hey, did the Twitch thing thing turn did you get banned from twitch like
Starting point is 00:00:26 ages ago did they ever like come to their senses on that first of all twitch doesn't twitch is a large bureaucrat it's like the matrix it doesn't come to its senses there's like disconnected bureaucratic entities that do what they do and yeah i don't have any contacts or anybody there i just i communicate through emails just like any random two viewer andy would so i like twitch that's years ago when you'd be like hey fuzzy otter balls what do you think it's definitely changed but i mean it's like this is kind of like the the the capitalist world is what happens you grow on edgy shit and then as you get wider you want to appeal to broader audiences and you want to capture more sponsors so you always kind of like mellow the fuck out you know yeah one of the very top guys at twitch he might not work there anymore for all i know he's retired
Starting point is 00:01:08 early but he was i did this um march madness commentary showdown do you remember this at all from like a decade ago yeah uh anyway one of the top guys at twitch did very well in it so i knew a guy at one point. When it was still Justin TV. And into Twitch, but yeah. I met those guys. Did you? There's an Asian guy, right? Was he Justin?
Starting point is 00:01:32 Yes. Back when there was the original like three or four, like the C-level guys would just like hang out at events and stuff because it wasn't like a huge company or anything, right? He had like somehow he found a way to make a rooftop party. He found a place in a rooftop party that was even cooler than the rooftop he like found a rooftop for the rooftop and you had to like walk upstairs to get to him i might have been there we might have been at the same party yeah wait how long ago was this did we take a picture where we both jumped at the same time in an effort
Starting point is 00:01:59 to appear taller it's possible yeah i won i think you did yeah like almost all the pictures i have with you two you guys are doing your last second tippy toes thing that doesn't say no not like i've been training i'm like but i'm taller than woody like not in this picture i'm transitioning all my training to box jumps won't be out i'm adding weight to my squats. No one cares. I'll end it there, but no knee pain, more weight. I'm happy. Next topic. Good. I think we've heard from our
Starting point is 00:02:34 lovely listeners. They want to hear an hour of fitness discussion. Oh my God. Also, I've started playing Tarkov again. It's fun. That's all. Tarkov and fitness for four hours. Won't talk about it. Refuse. Have you guys been torturing your audiences with gym shit? Yeah. Do you know what went on with Kyle? I did. playing tarkov again it's fun that's all tarkov and fitness for won't talk about it refuse have you guys been torturing your audiences with gym shit yeah do you not know what went on with kyle kyle yeah his weight is jacked as hell yeah i started getting into gym stuff a lot like two
Starting point is 00:02:54 or three months ago so my audience has been getting a lot of it too just just hearing you bring that up there are people of my audience that have either already tuned out or already triggered even hearing it come up as a topic so like oh god no no it's funny you don't have to do too much of that it's funny though like destiny it actually is organic now he's like yeah i've been getting into the fitness are you like doing any lifting on stream or just like sharing oh god no i'm sure kyle knows that you this is like people will backseat the fuck out of everything you do no matter what the fuck you do for anything no lift is good like you'll you'll see guys on reddit some guy will be pulling you know like 800 pounds and they'll be a guy his form is actually really bad like the
Starting point is 00:03:34 lower back is a little bit too current but and it's like dude are you serious right now dude I lifted twice on stream and mistake no it was a really good experience so first of all me this is practically fitness talk in my head i'm like they're all gonna think i don't overhead press enough absolutely zero people gave a fuck about how much weight was on the bar and uh the few that did comment on form actually had a useful feedback that i took to heart oh that's good that's's cool. Yeah. So, and I actually got a lot of positive feedback on like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I get great on this wonderful, wonderful curve, which is like, they're amazed that I can move it all at my age. The expectations are low enough. Yeah. For 48,
Starting point is 00:04:19 he can do a pull up. That guy's from the seventies. I am from the early 70s. Yeah, so that might be why that maybe they're kinder to me. Because I can't imagine lifting on stream. I would be so concerned with how fat I looked from different angles that I wasn't used to trying to cover. It'd be like, even if I was having a monster bench,
Starting point is 00:04:48 they'd be like, ha-ha, look how his workout shirt clings to his fat belly it's like shut up you know you know the one thing that i got already started i see people say people say like oh yeah i used to ego lift but i'm past that now and it's like yeah you used to ego lift which is to lift like that now. And it's like, yeah, you used to ego lift, which is to lift like as much as you can because you liked having weight on the bar. Back when you weren't as strong, you might say, yeah, back when I was benching like 175, I was ego lifting. But now that I'm at 275, I don't care what anyone thinks.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Of course you don't, you jack fucking monster. Do we need to do another hour-long podcast during the week that's just fitness talk? Should we change topics? Is that what I'm saying? No. No, I was seriously asking. No, I wanted to do an hour-long podcast about fitness talk. We should make it a live stream where we all lift and
Starting point is 00:05:37 split screens. Well, that's ridiculous. What are we going to do? I'm going to go to the gym? Yes. Please make sure there's hotties there. Okay. That won't be awkward at all this is sounded like more like an episode of uh impractical jokers now i feel like you're doing excellent show love that show i love that show it's so like it's hard to make me really cringe but that show will do it that show will do it like like somehow it seems like all of their sisters are down for the gags. So there's one where the guy is presenting a video to sell some made-up nonsense to a group of people.
Starting point is 00:06:10 His sister is an actress in that video, unbeknownst to him, and she's being groped pretty overtly by one of his friends. And he's having to keep a... He's literally groping her tits, and then the other one's sister is having her ass basically massaged while she stands by the other two friends. And they're having to keep it cool
Starting point is 00:06:30 while they sell some nonsense to some nonsense people. I love that show. It's a hilarious show. You've never seen it, Woody? No. It's the only show on TruTV. And it's also on Disney+. I think it TV. It's the only show on true TV. And it's also on Disney Plus.
Starting point is 00:06:47 I think it is. It's like a prank show. And except like they do what all those YouTube pranksters got wrong. Because remember when pranks are a big thing on YouTube, it'd be like, hey, I'm going to prank these people by giving them PTSD and scaring the shit out of them. It's like you're not pranking people. You're just harassing people. Watch me steal obviously violent dude's phone yeah like these guys do the opposite where
Starting point is 00:07:09 it's like they're they're being funny but they're making themselves and each other the idiot asshole so they're like making people laugh not like making people wildly like oh my god this guy and it's it's a game so they're so two of the guys are usually behind the scenes with laptops and microphones and they have earpieces and they're torturing the other two. Now you got to do this. Now you got to do that. I think I've seen clips of it.
Starting point is 00:07:35 If they fail, then they fail that challenge. If you fail enough challenges, you fail the whole show. If you fail the whole show, they pick a horrible thing for you to have to do. At one point the guy's punishment was his sister got legally married to one of his friends, and they went to the courthouse and got the documents printed and showed the documents with their full names on them, and then had a full church wedding in front of all their families. While he was bound and gagged to one of those Hannibal Lecter stretchers as the best man.
Starting point is 00:08:04 That was a good one. They've had a lot of good punishment. And they do a good job of tailoring it to the individual, like Murr, the bald one. They make him go skydiving as a punishment, which for Woody would be awesome. Free skydiving? Gay.
Starting point is 00:08:19 It's like his number one fear, apparently, where he's openly crying on the show like you can't make me go we're joking right we're joking then they make him jump out of there and he's like openly weeping the whole time it's it's they made each other get tattoos that was the worst punishment i've ever seen three of them lost and so one guy got to pick tattoos for all the other ones on one guy's thigh this guy picked a a hyper-realistic portrait of jaden smith at about nine years old and it's the size of most of his thigh and so he's just got a huge
Starting point is 00:08:53 very realistic jaden smith face right there and it's like and that's a that's a real it's a real tattoo yeah you see it all the time like you know what because they get they get they just robe a lot and i need to see more of this show. Very few of them are in good enough shape. One of them has that particular kind of fatness where it's only belly. Like normal chest, arms, legs, thighs, ass.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Only belly. Not even love handles. Just the big belly. He's eating like cake or pastry in every scene. That guy from Trailer Park Boys had some of that yeah body type mine is i absolutely do that i will not get i'll get love handles but i don't gain any weight on my like arms my chest kind of my legs but not really but then i just have a belly my dad was everywhere and it's probably the preferable way to do it but i'll tell you you can gain
Starting point is 00:09:43 20 pounds and lie to yourself that you gain. Oh, you can gain a lot more than that. I don't know. I'm always kind of envious of the guys that gain fat. You can gain 100 and lie to yourself. There's no limit to that. Because if you gain it everywhere, I mean, like you can fill out like okayly, so you look like an adult male or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:57 But if you have no muscle and you gain all you want in your belly, you will look like a stick skeleton, but you will still weigh more than you should for the amount of muscle you have so you'd be definition of skinny fat you are skinny all over your body you're weak but you got this big belly works on camera yeah i mean i guess yeah as long as your posture is okay you suck it in i was talking i was talking to derek about diet today and i'm about to start that new protocol and he was like yeah you know how to do this you just start with the base calories and add 100 a week. And I'm thinking like, can I just start with a shit ton? What if I just started with like 4,000 calories a day?
Starting point is 00:10:32 That's what I really want to do. I want to attempt that, but I guess I won't. Try it. You're experimenting. You're learning best ways to optimize yourself. I was just seeing where you go. Like you might just get jacked and it'd be awesome i'm pretty sure if i did that i'd just go into water buffalo mode and oh i'm going
Starting point is 00:10:52 into water buffalo mode yeah that's that's that's the goal yeah like i'm gonna gain 30 pounds by the time uh like you can have that goal all to yourself right yeah 30 pounds that's gonna be a blast man have fun no it's not gonna be a blast you know what my diet is oh yeah you clean bulk yeah i'm eating rice and lean ground beef and peppers and spinach and shit that's so depressing it's because like you hear 4 000 calories a day and you're like i'm i'm in and then you see what you're eating to get to 4 000 and it's a chore it's horrific i'm gonna i never eaten that many. I've eaten 3,600 a day consistently. That's like two pounds of beef a day or something.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah, I probably do 2,000 calories a day. You literally double me. It's real hard. I'm going to try to split it up into a lot of meals this time. That's one thing I'm going to do for sure is instead of doing four meals in a shake, do like six to seven meals in a shake. It's the same amount of cooking.
Starting point is 00:11:47 I just split it into smaller bowls, right? It just seems harder to manage. I got those little plastic disposable bowls. Those like Pyrex ones or whatever? No, I got cheap ones. Fuck the environment. I'm going to be dead in 20, 30 years at this rate. But you're going to die in a double-wide casket for your fucking delts. I'm going to eat in a double wide casket for your fucking
Starting point is 00:12:05 delts. I'm going to eat a lot of pallbearers. And they're all going to be jacked. Like Rich Piana. Did he have all jacked pallbearers? He must have had to. What are your goals,
Starting point is 00:12:22 Kyle? You're looking to get big? You're looking to get strong? You're looking to get strong? Never strong. I don't give a fuck about strong. Honestly, if I could stick to the same weights forever, I'd be fine. You told me before that you had target weights. Yeah, because I'm an immature fuck, right?
Starting point is 00:12:36 So I'm like, we're cool if we can lift like a thousand pounds, right? Like, yeah, it would. But I'm probably not going to devote myself to the goal of bench pressing 500 pounds because the more likely outcome is that I tear a pack or something and never weightlift again. So I'm probably just going to go easy on that. The goal is to gain as much lean tissue in the next, I don't know how many months is possible. micromanage every moment of every day toward gaining muscle as far as diet supplementation and everything i do for the next i don't know how long a minimum of a minimum of five months but i might go 10 months like like i'm just bulking let's get all the way to halloween and then you can be any costume you i could be the blob at halloween or um or i could pull back a little early and start to cut like three months before that in like
Starting point is 00:13:25 July or something and be pretty fucking sickly ripped by Halloween next year. Do you have any weights that you're willing to say out loud? I've got a few. What do you mean, like lifts? Yeah, I can do it really quick. I would really love to overhead press
Starting point is 00:13:41 135, two big boy plates on the side. I'd like to bench press 225. That's four plates. And I'd like to deadlift 315. Yeah. You'll get those. I think. I guess I have similar goals, but like slightly loftier.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I like the overhead press stuff. Two plates always looks cool. Man, a 225 overhead press would be monstrous. It would be. But forget that because that is nonsense. I don't know. A big bench would be cool. Three plates is pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah, but 225 overhead press, you'd be a monster. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I have any weight goals really now that I think about it because I just don't give a fuck. I don't care what it don't know if I have any weight goals, really, now that I think about it. Because I just don't give a fuck. I don't care what it looks like to anybody else. If anything, I wish if I could wave a magic wand, I would
Starting point is 00:14:32 be bench pressing one plate for my workout so that it's so safe that if I drop it, I'm okay. Having to put all that weight on is just dangerous and bad for your joints and ligaments and stuff. But you get right at a point where you don't need to ego. I don't care what anybody thinks i strap on 90 pounds when i do dips and no one had their opinion can be what actually that's what i do care because like
Starting point is 00:14:53 i like to do my dips right after a normal person has done dips because because they they're just doing their body weight and then i'm like i put my belt of weights on oh man that's like that's like when you're working out of the rag you're squatting or dead lifting or something and you finish your thing and so it's like can i go after you and you're like yeah sure it's like do you want me to take these off it's like no no i'll warm up it's like oh all right man we should get off it yeah yeah for sure but i wanted to know i've added 10 pounds of my dips and earlier at the start of this year i needed assistance bands to do dips. My body weight was too much for me. Now,
Starting point is 00:15:27 I'm adding weight to it, and it's a big point of pride for me. Very nice. The best part is it's a combination of you losing fat and gaining muscle that's gotten you there. I prefer to think all muscle. Yeah. It's definitely harder to build muscle than it is to lose fat.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yeah, definitely. Destiny, what are your goals in in there you're just trying to lose weight or get stronger um overall actually getting stronger um i've always been like a like a video game fucking nerd and i'm kind of like picked up lifting and like dropped it the problem is traveling would kill me in the past because if i travel for two weeks like i'm not lifting and it's just, it fucks me everything. But like this, these past, like I'd say like two to three months, I've taken it like really seriously. And, um, it's really cool to like see your body and like have like some actual masculine features as embarrassing as it might sound.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And I'm still like a pretty small person, but like now when I look in the mirror, I'm like, Holy shit, I'm actually a man. Like I have like boobs and I've got like some arms and actually like a little bit of feeling too much shit and my obviously my fiance like super notices the difference and stuff um so i feel yeah my fiance super notices the difference in stuff oh yeah true yeah i mean it was but yeah i really appreciate that and then like even just like feeling your body my posture like is perfect now which was funny because i go to like live debate events sometimes so you know i
Starting point is 00:16:50 kind of have the normally like sitting like this like hunched over and stuff but you know now i'm like you know oh seated overhead press you know i would sit like this for this you know i do this for like two hours it's no problem um feeling all of your like individual muscles is cool like sometimes when i'm in bed i'll still like oh like i can feel like my that's my lat this is my posture like feeling the muscles is cool like i don't know i super enjoy it that's been a lot of fun for me so just like getting stronger being healthier like you have like all this faculty in your body that some people a lot of people neglect for their whole lives so the idea of like building that and working on that is just really cool so i've enjoyed a lot of fun for me it's got to be like the best hobby to have
Starting point is 00:17:24 just to pick up like it's so productive in so many ways you can do it've enjoyed a lot. It was a lot of fun for me. It's got to be like the best hobby to have just to pick up. Like it's so productive in so many ways. You can do it. It's a lot. It makes you more mindful of a lot of other things, I guess. So like I'm more careful in real life, like moving stuff. Like I'm not going to be a dumb fuck who reaches and picks up a box and just hangs it off my fucking lower back as I move stuff around the house. Yeah, just in general.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And then you're a little bit more conscientious of like what you eat you know like what's the difference between a simple carb and a complex like just like little things you'll pick up as you like live more and all those things are like nice for me i like frightening small children yes that's more the screaming and the threats than the body type though you can really put a scare into a child if you put your mind to it true i'm sure you could i don't know if you need muscles for that but they don't like it depends on how you're trying to scare you're just like rattling the cage at a local middle school go over here kids yeah i have a question and i because i actually watched your video oh man all of our audience is gonna hate us for this um i so i watched it like you're
Starting point is 00:18:19 coming out video kyle um so this is kind of so i'm curious do you ever worry that once you start um it's going to be like i need more and more and more of this because i'm like addicted to the body dysmorphia even and and feed into that and it can be this sort of uh never-ending cycle um it puts me in a weird spot to like like prove to people that that's not going to be the case i feel like i have to stop be like dude i look fucking amazing you don't even fucking know you don't think i know i know like i like i could push into that corner but it's like um no i i get it like like i don't want to be like one of those freakishly big dudes at all like taylor always talks about barreling through hallways or whatever and everyone having to like like just run away or
Starting point is 00:19:04 whatever i don't want any of that nonsense. I watched the people whose diet models I'm copying and workout regimens I'm copying do look like that. But they should have stopped like eight years ago. That's the difference. Like they've been done. They're overcooked. There's a point that I'm probably going to close to by the by next year where we're good this is where we maintain we we maintain right here with light exercise for the rest of
Starting point is 00:19:33 our life and we just hold on to this eat normal and we don't need to do like any more silly bulking nonsense like i may be a year away from that or two years at the most i think because i don't want to be enormous i really don't i just like being pretty big and fit something that's all you think when you're a little bigger like you know a year from now you might be like i don't want to be enormous and you are i just want to be a little bigger than this yeah i mean i see guys bigger than me it's not like that don't look like freaks. It's what I'm saying. I certainly haven't got anywhere near that. I think you should just become a freak. Just like go full bore. Get weirder.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I was looking at a guy who was only a little stronger than me, but he looked way thicker. Like he was bigger in the waist. And like, I didn't envy what he looked like. You are fortunate. I think you have a really narrow... What size pants do you wear? 28 or something? 28.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Children's clothing, people. These are children's sizes. These aren't man clothes. 28? I'm in a 32 right now, or 32, 33. Somewhere in there. Eighth grade pants. 28 is when i'm at 180 and like 80 pounds like i'm 195 right now i posted a picture of me on twitter and i'm wearing size 34 and everyone roasted me because my pants don't fit i haven't bought smaller pants because
Starting point is 00:21:01 trail mix is delicious and they might fit again someday yeah but uh uh i probably belong in like a 32 or maybe even a 31 but i thought it was so funny about that picture is like obviously you're wearing these giant pants to like show the the progress you've made and stuff no they're literally the pants i've owned for like 12 days in a row oh taylor taylor this is my friend woody this is my friend woody taylor he's very cheap that's okay that's true those beautiful boy jeans are going nowhere i was gonna say the the size of those pants on you and the fact you're like holding like a big handful of them to keep them up and you're like jacked ripped body i was like my first thought was like woody looks
Starting point is 00:21:45 like a really formidable homeless person like like he could handle himself on the streets he's got you know abs you great cheese on first dibs at the donut dumpster no one dares stop you i cut in line at the soup kitchen yeah you gotta get your macros yeah you're cutting over and over and over um what you should do is get like some of those look make fun if you want but like get get pants to have like an elastic waistband right because like like as i go through this like i stop wearing button-up jeans and switch to like my pajama jeans and like my like adidas track pants and shit like that because my weight is fluctuating five pounds a week and shit like that like you've been off regular jeans for years right that picture by the way was from i've got right days ago and i'm still
Starting point is 00:22:29 wearing those pants right now on this show well they're way too big on you man if i if i have to be around people that might judge pajama jeans i certainly put on fucking normal jeans but but if i'm going to the fucking gas station yeah i'm wearing my goddamn pajama jeans i don't care it's time for me to put on clean clothes really yeah it's probably all right we got to stop the fitness talk again i asked you if you wanted to do an hour-long extra podcast every week called fit talk with with taylor and friends or whatever like i like that branding. Yeah, right? Taylor and Friends. Have you on the front arms crossed like, aha, and then
Starting point is 00:23:10 really tiny in the background. That branding is hilarious to me. Who fucking cares? If a new viewer found it, they'd be like, is Taylor the boss? Yes. Taylor, please be the boss and take all their feedback anytime.
Starting point is 00:23:27 But he's the most overweight guy on the fitness show. Isn't he the salami guy? He's the guy who has, you know, we'll say cholesterol issues. I'd happily do a fitness podcast for an hour every week. We have to stop the fitness talk. They don't like the fitness talk.
Starting point is 00:23:43 We got Destin here. We just talk about video games and internet drama and politics. I told my wife about your cheese advent calendar and she loved the story. Yeah. I liked that cheese advent calendar out. Did your wife get you a second one? No, but like by the 11th it was gone.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Just wolfed through that. I'd never had an advent calendar growing up or any of those things and i never considered they put like treats and stuff other than than chocolate in it so that was neat i bet they have like a deli meat one too i wish you'd buy that we my wife always does them and they're typically toys like a harry potter one or lego one or something i didn't know that damn It's like 25 extra days of terrible gifts.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, but if you're a kid, it sort of keeps Christmas front and center. It's fun. You guys get anything fancy for your loved ones this year for Christmas? Any special holiday gifts? Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I got my wife one thing that is a little hit or miss i don't know so she has been absolutely consumed by murder lately maybe i should be on maybe i should defend myself but but like every time i catch her watching tv it's some sort of murder like true crime entry true crimes an example but she's like exhausted all the content that you've heard of and I catch her watching TV. It's some sort of murder documentary. True crime. True crime is an example, but she's exhausted all the content that you've heard of. Now she's listening to the drunk women murder podcast and shit like that. Which apparently they're fantastic.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I haven't heard of yet, but she identifies with the girls on it. Anyway, so I bought her this subscription to a solve your murder type thing that will arrive on Christmas morning and new clues come in the mail on a regular basis. And she's meant to sort of decode the whodunit sort of clue type thing. This will be a grand slam or a strikeout. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But that's the one thing I thought of that like she would never get herself. I think that's a really really great gift like it's funny you mentioned that someone gave a couple of those to my wife and we did one together just the two of us like six weeks ago or so and it is fun like it's just a it's like it comes in a manila envelope and like all the the character profiles and like the the stock actors and you have to read all their their dossiers and try and put the pieces together and like if thankfully we didn't have to like use help but like if you can't figure it out they have links like hey idiot go here and we'll tell you who stole the this is how i do but yeah i think she'll like that you guys can do it together it was fun it took like i don't know i'm sure there's a million different brands of them, but it took like two and a half hours to read through everything.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I think that this one, it's a six-month subscription. And if I understand right, it trickles in over the next half year, like the clues. And I just saw it. I was like, this is the kind of thing she might dig. Yeah. It is kind of like an escape room. I wish those were more fun.
Starting point is 00:26:44 How much was yours? Do you know? No, I have no idea. I think my wife either bought it or one of her friends gave it to her I don't know how she got them. Ours is it's like 185 dollars So it should be more than just a couple of emails or something. Yeah Yeah, so if a bloody fucking knife doesn't show up, I'm gonna be disappointed. You're right. Yeah. Yeah, so Yeah, that's pretty neat. it has like pictures of dead people i get people gift cards that's the way that's why i'm that's why i've been rolling for a while now you get gift cards amazon maybe uh no i personalized the gift cards because that's
Starting point is 00:27:15 the part where i put thought in you re-gift i re-gift gift cards i got this for giving blood as far as i know they're ten dollars you'll find out oh there's seven dollars and 12 cents on this you piece of shit uh i was talking um derek and i were going back and forth a little bit today he was talking about um this is not fitness talk i promise this is like covet talk if anything but um i think they have access to this thing where like he said that like if um if i was exposed to like covet or something like like like you know during this bulk i'm about to do you know that'd be pretty pretty shitty they have this thing where they'll send a nurse to my house and like run an iv of um some covet uh drugs or something like that and vitamin c and shit
Starting point is 00:28:01 it's pretty cool i don't know how that works look at online like there was a whole like delivery service for these where it was like get this if you're hungover as can be get this if you yeah like have vitamin d deficiency and you're depressed yeah i think it's something similar yeah yeah yeah yeah that's interesting i don't think those came with a nurse i think those would like do it at home i'm not fucking hitting a fucking artery a vein or anything like i'm not doing that it comes with a nurse you can know i guess it is i guess it is a little harder than your intramuscular injection yeah see i'm one of those people that gets like lightheaded when i get blood i can't be doing that that's interesting yeah like something about like stabbing me there like like it's not even seeing the blood or anything. I don't like them sticking a needle into my fucking vein.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's always shocking how fast your blood comes out. It fills up those tubes. I remember as a kid being like, oh, you're taking another tube, huh? And how yellow it is. Pre-surgery? You go to the doctor. Pre-surgery, I like the IV.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I am like Pavlov's dog associating it with, is it fentanyl? What is it they give you? I'm not sure. Propofol? Whatever it is, I'm a big fucking fan of taking the edge off. And now I do drug-seeking behavior. I've talked about this before, but it's like, yeah, I'm so nervous. Anyone else here scared about this thing so uh yeah but yeah the iv doesn't scare me at all i'm looking forward to it yeah i don't like
Starting point is 00:29:38 it i don't like it it's it's it's it hurts a little but there's like something that makes me queasy about them like sticking it in there like i i've got to get do blood work soon and i'm not looking forward to it they only take a tiny bit when you're doing they take eight vials eight of them huh at least it's so many but it's like a tray of fucking they need to get more fucking efficient i have so many people that like i help with fitness stuff that and i'll be like hey man you really should get on trt though you know you're you're 39 like you've got like some of the symptoms like you should do in the oh but those needles i'm all right pussy the needles and well you can do uh the oral stuff right or that doesn't work you want to inject testosterone if you're replacing testosterone and you want to do it
Starting point is 00:30:24 with a needle. Obviously, I don't have any experience with those gels or the patches, but we've talked about that before. Derek has. Orals in particular, like your digestive system. I don't know. I'm going to foul this up, but like kidneys or liver or something. You don't want to stress them in ways that you don't have to with a needle. Yeah, when people do oral steroids, they're doing them as like a little cherry on top to like a testosterone base and they do them for four to eight weeks shit like that because they are liver and kidney toxic almost what about the
Starting point is 00:30:53 creams that well the cream is people use the cream as a trt alternative like like like some doctors will um and derek talked about that on the show about i think he just thought it wasn't as effective because you can't really determine what the effect is going to be from individual to individual because you're smearing a cream rather than fucking flicking a needle and getting exactly so many cc's do you put it on your balls?
Starting point is 00:31:18 I think they put it on their gooch actually something like that or maybe that's where the patch goes it's something like that like your taint balls and they'd sound like quick or maybe that's where the patch goes it's something like that yeah like your taint is where's your gucci yeah yeah taint and gucci they intermingle you know all right they're friends i'm gonna have to shave yeah or or and then they put those pellets in you too just get a fucking needle the needle doesn't hurt but a lot of people are afraid of giving a needle in your gooch sounds scary ah depends off for how deep you go but there's like i go all the way all the way you're trying to get like
Starting point is 00:31:50 arteries and veins is my vas deferens there i don't know all that stuff you ever look on the inside of a person there's all kind of shit i used to ride bicycles a lot and right in that taint area there's a lot of shit it's not good to sit on yeah well i don't know how this came up but um it's not exactly fitness talk it's it's far too close circling around the fitness talk even if we won't jump a bunch of people were like you're gonna talk about tarkov on the show now and i'm like, I dare not. Please, please. No, no. There's like 80.
Starting point is 00:32:31 I watch Tarkov streams a lot. A lot of people, how's the wipe treating you? How's this going? This is how I consume Tarkov now. All right, Kyle. I get your message. No, I'm not shutting you down. This is my way of telling you the wipe treated me well. Did any of you guys watch any of the shows we talked
Starting point is 00:32:48 about? The Witcher? Did you catch up on that at all? I finished Hawkeye. I think that's it. I did not watch any. I recommend The Witcher to everybody listening. It turned out it was really fucking good. I had a Witcher question I didn't ask last time. Yeah. The first season of Witcher had some pretty
Starting point is 00:33:04 difficult to follow time travel for me fix that and make fun of it um made fun of their own issue themselves yeah they like like there's a guy who's um criticizing the bard you know the guy he's like that one song the jumping back and forth through timelines i couldn't keep up and you you really didn't even like you know, say anything about it. I was just supposed to know. And he's just like,
Starting point is 00:33:29 yeah, if you haven't seen Witcher the first season yet, here's my advice. It's very good. It's worth your time. However, it might be nice to do what I did, which is watch an episode,
Starting point is 00:33:41 read the Wikipedia article on it, two paragraphs. And you're like, ah, okay. okay. Because without that it can take you a while to catch on that this is even the same person or that sometimes the people look exactly the same but it's 40 years front or back. I might be getting that wrong. Sometimes there's like an adult and a child character
Starting point is 00:34:03 and they don't make it super clear that that's the same person you're just in different moments of time interacting with someone else who didn't change at all it can be tricky to follow but one and a half very good new season is great um my complaints from this from season one were fixed i'm not a book reader so i don't care what they did with unifer's character that's not a spoiler to say but um cgi is better a lot of monsters uh they drink a bunch of those potions's not a spoiler to say but um cgi is better a lot of monsters uh they drink a bunch of those potions and shit you get to meet more uh uh characters they set the stage for season three which will probably be more of a action-filled season is
Starting point is 00:34:35 that is it based on a book or is it based on a game i think the answer is yes that's based i think it's based on the book because i think the game makes some changes from the book and they leave some of the changes from the game and they go instead off the book material. But I mean, if you're familiar with the game, you're going to recognize like 90% of the stuff. I've always heard it was a great game. Maybe I'll give it a go.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I tried to play and for whatever reason, I couldn't get super into it, but it's probably just me. But I like the show, really good. I hope Netflix lets it go to season three. That's something they rarely do with good shows yeah well they don't have a lot of good shows
Starting point is 00:35:10 Mindhunters is great which one? Mindhunters the FBI profiler show about the first FBI profilers learning what serial killers were and interviewing them in prisons and stuff yeah that shows alright I didn't get as into it as everybody else, apparently.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I just thought it was okay. The only one that every single season has been awesome that I can remember is Ozark. That's a genuinely very good show. I like that one. But other than that, what is it? Someone made the point last night that Ozark is the best TV show that is currently airing, and I think they're right. I think so.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I like Heroes. No. Is that what it airing and I think they're right I like Heroes no is that what it's called? no you're thinking of The Boys The Boys yeah that is what I'm thinking of with Homelander yeah no I think Ozark's a better show I think The Boys might entertain me more on a like minute per minute basis because it's a superhero show
Starting point is 00:35:59 where they fuck but I think Ozark's a better show because lots of really strong acting and storylines. Similar to Breaking Bad. I get the same vibes from it, obviously, because it's got a lot of similar themes. And last season ended with a huge cliffhanger. I think the new season begins in January. I think I heard.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You know what I like? Not every episode's a winner, but I always like Black Mirror. If they were to drop a Black Mirror season, I'd be very excited to get it. I really hated that Miley Cyrus season. Miley Cyrus was in Black Mirror? Was she in more than one episode?
Starting point is 00:36:31 No, she was in one episode, but that whole season I didn't like. I don't remember. I remember the first season, the one where the guy, where the Prime Minister has to fuck a pig. That's a tremendous one. It was great because it like it was exactly what would have happened everybody like let's get drunk and watch this
Starting point is 00:36:51 idiot fuck a pig and then as soon as it gets real everyone's like oh oh god we're gonna we're monsters and this is horrific there's one where the whole all society is run by your social media score and you need popular people to like you and I guess it's to the popular person's advantage to kind of dislike you or not give you the kudos you might want. So there's this woman who's right on the edge
Starting point is 00:37:18 kind of begging to be liked by more popular people and finds herself spiraling down and I don't know something about it would just like it fucking sucks it hurts you can her pain was real that made a good episode
Starting point is 00:37:33 yeah I'm trying to remember where they like lost the plot in that show because like the later seasons and episodes are just bad some of them are just not good so I think I liked them a little more than you, but I do have to agree. It wasn't as good.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Did you see that the lady who, or the former cop, mixed up the taser and the pistol? You know, anyone could make that mistake. Anyone who's never touched a gun or a taser can make that mistake. Well, to be fair, the tasers are very godlike the ones that they use now they're supposed to have them on different different parts of their body but i mean like like if you like glocks are not made of like metal you don't have like a shiny new brand
Starting point is 00:38:17 new 1911 right like these are they feel like almost like toys sometimes if you've never actually touched a glock before you don't touch the slide or whatever you feel like a toy and the but she has what but she said if you've never touched it but she like you know i i think you're making a strong point if if what had happened was like someone was like hey go grab that gun and they were like in the box and like yeah but don't show me now use it like if that had happened but instead you got like a trained cop um i feel bad for it because what you know i always go back to my sexist viewpoint like maybe she shouldn't have like a trained cop. I feel bad for her because what, you know, I always go back to my sexist viewpoint. Like maybe she shouldn't have been a fucking cop anyway, but it has nothing to do with her sex.
Starting point is 00:38:50 She clearly shouldn't have been a cop. It has nothing to do with her sex. Like, like just watching that woman in court, like I feel like she needed to be a cop. She didn't, if you can, if you can make that mistake,
Starting point is 00:38:57 you shouldn't be a cop. I don't think I'm tooting my own horn to say I wouldn't make that fucking mistake. Cause I don't think any of us here would. They weigh differently. They feel differently in your hand. As hand as long as you have gloves on they're on balance is different they're just the big thing for the tasers they're supposed to be on different parts of your body like the tasers are pulled from a different area than a than a firearm should i mean i've used both of those things like i've used that exact kind of taser
Starting point is 00:39:19 and that exact kind of pistol and they're just to me does anyone know how many rounds she fired that would matter. If she put six rounds in him with the Glock... I thought she just shot him once, but I could be wrong. I watched her testimony, and she was just like... She acted like she had blanked out
Starting point is 00:39:37 the relevant parts of her shooting this man, essentially. So what happened? She's going to jail? I think two counts of paid vacation two two uh two guilty counts i think is what i heard and i think it's manslaughter okay which is probably fair i don't think like the the murder charges imply a certain like intent i think she just fucked up yeah definitely i don't think i don't. What's worse? Is manslaughter and negligent homicide
Starting point is 00:40:07 literally the exact same thing? I don't know. I feel like she performed her job so negligently that another human being died and she's responsible for it. Whatever that is, is what she did. I don't think she meant to kill that guy, though, because she did not seem happy with
Starting point is 00:40:23 the outcome. Of course not. She meant to kill that guy, though, because she did not seem happy with the outcome. Well, of course not. She wants to get back on the streets. I'm sure plenty of cops have accidentally been like, oh, I accidentally shot him. Oh, no. I'm sure that's happened. For sure, yeah. And it seems like there's a lot... One thing I've seen too often
Starting point is 00:40:39 in my wife's freaking murder shows is that the cop is like, all right, Taylor did it i'm so convinced taylor did it and then evidence comes out undeniably proving someone else did it you know like this fucking kyle dna all over the place i don't know what i'm thinking about you guys i have that i planted to come on the victim. But the cop is still got too much like...
Starting point is 00:41:09 I still think we should go for Taylor too. It's like, no! We have proven that it's this other guy. All the evidence, the hunch you had around Taylor, there's no evidence that makes a thousand times more sense that it's somebody else. And they don't let it go. They treat their jobs like... I don't know, evidence it makes a thousand times more sense that it's somebody else and they don't let it go they treat their jobs like i don't know like it's a normal job like like like
Starting point is 00:41:30 hey hey woody i noticed in your accounting work you're off it's it's it's just a tiny number but you're awful and you're like no no that's just gonna be the number now i think well let's make it that it's like well razors have pencils for for a reason do you want to get shot like that doesn't happen but if you're a cop that's how things would go they just get stuck on that or there's a parallel thing where they're like all right all right all right all right maybe taylor didn't do this thing but taylor does stuff like that i bet you know let's prosecute him for this thing because there's probably other shit we don't know the oj method yeah so it works justice was found that day
Starting point is 00:42:14 yeah now he's like i don't know i i um i i i just think most cops don't know what the fuck they're doing um like like i've seen so many videos of them doing silly shit, just gun related shit. Really? That's the only thing I'm kind of semi qualified to comment on. But like, if she could get that mixed up, she should be a cop.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I don't think. And it wasn't even like a life or death type stressful situation. Like, like we've seen so many of those crazy videos where like two cops are wrestling with a man essentially for their lives in a living room right like there's a knife in play two pistols in play and we're all fucking rolling around in the living room that's not the scenario we've got a guy like in his car and i get cars with deadly weapons they love to use that one but like he's sitting there and they're wrestling
Starting point is 00:42:59 with this guy and we're clearly going to win like we know that at the end of the day we're going to wrap up a w and somehow somehow she has to like that at the end of the day we're going to wrap up a w and somehow somehow she has to like get in the middle of it with a weapon yeah i don't know there are definitely from like basic gun safety things that i see from cops sometimes that super makes me wonder where it's not even like uh you're a cop it's like are you like a human being that's ever dealt with a firearm before there i remember the one with um when when the two things are true is that when cops intervene in situations where there's not like you don't need to be here right now and then when they do it without backup so if something happens somebody's gonna die because you don't have another
Starting point is 00:43:35 person there so either you're gonna feel like you need to kill somebody or somebody's gonna kill you the one of the most mind-blowing videos did you see the cop that was wrestling or he had the collar of a like 13 year old in a yard with like 20 other like teenagers around them not like teenagers like big like ready just like kids or whatever and the guy's got his gun out he's like get back i'm arresting like citizens arresting as an off-duty cop this kid or whatever and he ends up like firing around randomly on an accident into like somebody's yard or some shit and it's like holy shit like what are you actually doing right now yeah that's geez i have some registration i have and i female cops that have to use the big weapons taser or especially gun because they're female cops right if if the cop is some healthy 35 year old guy and he knows if there's any altercation the cop wins handily the perp knows if there's any altercation, the cop wins handily.
Starting point is 00:44:25 The perp knows if there's any altercation, that cop wins handily. There doesn't even have to be an altercation. Everyone knows how that would go down. But when there's a girl involved, she has to use this gun in a situation that the guy could have held him down. Same's true for those old fat white dudes that are cops still,
Starting point is 00:44:42 for some reason, it's for anyone who's not physically competent enough to deal with that job. It's the same thing we always say about firemen and everything else. If you can't drag me out, I don't want you to be my fireman. If you need to pull out a gun anytime someone's a little bit harsh with you, you probably shouldn't be a fucking cop. It can't be compliance or murder like there has to be some it's either compliance or death you're not robocop all right there's an
Starting point is 00:45:10 in-between here where we just maybe have to like rough somebody up a little bit push them into a car and handcuff they should have to do like physical tests every year it shouldn't be like you get on the force you do your one physical test like american and then it's like all right boom now time to gain 110 pounds and like be totally ineffective i want to remember that remember that old show um it was like supermarket dash where they get they gave you a shopping cart set you into a super yeah yeah supermarket sweep yeah i want one of those where like the cop has to like catch like multiple shoplifters like it's it's it the same premise exactly, except there's a cop trying to stop them, and he's being graded as much as they are trying to win household goods.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And if they don't pass their yearly physical, they go to jail. Sure. I like that. I like that a lot. I think we should start locking up fat cops. Lock up fat cops? Yeah. And skip a couple meals on their behalf for them. they don't need
Starting point is 00:46:05 three square back to my lifeguard days we had to re-qualify every year this will make sense to like one percent of the audience but we did 200 meters not yards in two and a half minutes if you're a swimmer this is something that you can do right this would be like running an eight minute mile like anyone who's in shape can run an eight minute mile um but if you're not a swimmer or if you aren't in shape an eight minute mile is hard to get you know and it was just enough to sort of force or requalify you know i don't think that's gonna happen i think they're gonna keep cops be fat i feel like the cops are in charge of this and do firefighters they have to like requalify and stuff right i feel like i cops are in charge of this and do firefighters they have to like re-qualify
Starting point is 00:46:46 and stuff right i feel like i don't see really fat firefighters i know like it like my experience is from those environment those uh volunteer fire departments like in the country and stuff and those guys all take it so seriously about like um i remember there's a test and where you're like timed about how fast you put your gear on and get ready ready. Those guys do silly shit. There's some of them who attempt to jump into boots. Instead of sitting down and putting boots on, they want to
Starting point is 00:47:14 get a running start and jump into their boots, landing into them as they get dressed. That's awesome. That's the guy I want coming to save me. Right? Yeah. They should go by job too as I'm processing this. If you're a firefighter captain and you're That's the guy I want coming to save me. Right? Yeah. They should go by job, too, as I'm processing this, right? If you're a firefighter captain and your job is to organize and make sure everyone's doing the right thing,
Starting point is 00:47:35 I don't care if you can carry me out of a building. That's not your gig. That's not what you're up to. He doesn't. He could do that job in a wheelchair. I'd prefer it if he did it from a wheelchair. Because that would denote a little seniority and a little a gravitas around the other guy it doesn't matter it doesn't matter that he lost into diabetes they'll be like they'll be laughing he'll be like uh you don't laugh at a five alarm fire boy you come back in one of these like pops you got diabetes shut up same thing's
Starting point is 00:48:04 true with the in the police world if you're a detective if your job is to like get there after the fact and you know reverse engineer what went down then uh i don't need you running a five minute mile or whatever it is i don't know sometimes in the movies that's fast they end up having to chase the guy and then they can't catch him like in seven if they can just caught that guy in seven they just i mean they want to cut his wife's head off you know that's true It would have been a terrible movie if they'd caught him after the first cut. And if you think about it, it's Morgan Freeman's fault
Starting point is 00:48:28 because Brad Pitt was definitely fit. He had that Fight Club body. It was old-ass Morgan Freeman who couldn't keep up and give him backup. That's why his wife's head got cut off. Fucking Morgan Freeman's ruining it. Really, Morgan Freeman is the nemesis in the show. Bit of a villain. That's a great movie. I haven't seen Seven in forever.
Starting point is 00:48:46 There's no way it's Kevin Spacey's fault because he's never done anything wrong. Agreed. Absolutely. If he had a GoFundMe, I'd fucking sign up. If he had a GoFundMe for what? Disney World? Yeah. He just tried to go to Disney World.
Starting point is 00:49:02 It would be hilarious. If he was lobbying to become a fucking Boy Scout leader, I'd buy him. Anything that man wants, I'm there for him. He's entertained me for years. I feel like the Boy Scouts had to crack down on the weirdos. I thought they opened up to the weirdos.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I thought that was the deal. I thought there were gay scout leaders that were like, you can't kick me out, I'm gay. I wasn't talking about gay people being the weirdos. I meant the rapists. Oh, well, it was this weird coincidence, Taylor. The gay people were raping the kids. It was weird.
Starting point is 00:49:35 You never see that. If that's the case, then the rapists, that supersedes the gay. It was gay rape. It wasn't female scout leaders, oddly enough. Yeah, I don't think they're allowed. Thank God it wasn't a woman. There was a guy on Reddit recently,
Starting point is 00:49:50 and I guess he had sex in middle school with his teacher. And he's like, it was awesome. Let's just agree that men and women are different because it gave me confidence through my high school years that I nailed my middle school teacher. And he still thinks back to her fondly. Of course. We are different.
Starting point is 00:50:14 We're just different. Oh, yeah. I mean, in middle school, you'd be like, oh, I want to fuck Mrs. Smith or whatever. But no girls were like, ooh, you know, Mr.venson with his bald spot and his way too heavy there was a teacher in middle school i remember like he would walk around
Starting point is 00:50:33 like while we were doing work like you know kind of up and down serpentining through the desks and he would like randomly stop behind girls and we're in seventh grade so we're like 13 and he would like you figuring that one out and he'd like give him like a too too much of a back rub and like we just would joke about it and be like oh mr dennis is a fucking creep did you see him he was massaging ashley again uh what a weirdo and it's like like no that wasn't cool he shouldn't have been doing that and like he was he was actively like flirty with these young girls in a way that was even five years later nobody knows why there was a girl that i'm like about 100 sure was fucking one of the teachers in my high school and he wasn't attractive he was bald he had long hair with but it was bald on top so it was just like from the back and sides. And he was overweight. And she was hot.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Like, the expression I use as a teenager is she carries a lot of sale for a skinny chick because she had like. What here was this? I tell you, she's got quite a sale. Carrying a good bit of sale around. You said that as a kid? I don't know if I said it out loud, but I thought. Hey, what, get a load of this dame. She's got quite a bit of sale going on for her.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Let's try to nail down what year this was. What was going on in the newsreels? This would be like 1990. But anyway, yeah, so she had like a banging body and boobs that you would typically only see with augmentation. Because they were going on and on. But they were wonderful in every way. Tell me more of this child's test. They weren't droopy boobs.
Starting point is 00:52:20 They were like she had a new. It was like she was 16 or something. Right out of the box. But I went to school with her her so i know that she got these boobs at like 12 or something like they weren't fake and uh but at this point she was 16 and i'm i'm about 100 sure she was sleeping with this guy they would like walk to his car together after school it got a little brazen and like it couldn't have been just an innocent mentorship they spent way too much time together yeah yeah they were fucking i think you think could you find her now find out what was going on i know see how those have aged yeah let's see those tips hopefully hopefully well i i remember
Starting point is 00:53:00 uh sometimes you can find people by their maiden names. Ticket time bags. Well, you never know. Did you guys ever have those girls in your class in high school that were dating guys way, way older than them and they thought it was cool? I remember this girl, Emily, I was friends with. We were in the same art class. And so we would sit there and we'd draw on stuff in one of those big square tables. There's four of us, two other girls and her and me, and we were just chatting. And she starts talking about her boyfriend. I'm like, oh oh i didn't even know you're dating anybody someone here at school we're we're 16 she's like no he uh he's out of college he was 23 dating oh i got that blown out of the park 28 28 28 28 year old holy shit that's yeah what a ghoul what a ghoul right yeah that's not that's not and like
Starting point is 00:53:46 to see like a 23 year old pull up to pick up or a 28 year old i'm sure pulling up to a high school to pick up their girlfriend it's like that guy's a fucking loser we all knew it then too like like even in high school and 2001 we're like what a fucking loser although can't get any college pussy like maybe when we get a little bit older we'll be like god he had it figured out didn't he at 28 he had the world
Starting point is 00:54:15 in his palm he knew it all he was really rolling the dice and you know he made it out the other side like he wasn't dating a 17-year-old. Oh. I think. More or less.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I don't know. Either way. That was always weird. I think 16 is legal in Georgia if he's 28. We go through this a lot, but like I really should have this on like a medic alert bracelet so I never forget. Put your background on your phone. What year were you born? Yeah, we're good.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Now, like, you can't even... I don't think you can buy cigarettes unless you're 21. Yeah, yeah, you have to be 21 now. That's wild. That's weird. Is that like a federal thing or like a state-by-state? I think it's federal. It might be federal because, like, now...
Starting point is 00:55:02 You know how they used to have, like, the two dates on the wall of gas stations, like, on the register where it it say if you're born before this date for tobacco, this one for alcohol. Now it's just one or at least in Missouri for vapes. I would guess so. You would think nicotine in general. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Is that good or bad? Good. Yeah, you know, it's good but but but i think it's bullshit that like like all the uh the things we're like we're not sure if you're old enough to decide or not like we take that away until you're 21 but anything where it's like we're definitely sure that you're not old to decide or not but it's in our best interest that you not be old enough to decide or not so yes 17 18 that works it looks like it was a i'm sorry i thought it looks like it was a Trump thing, Zach found it. In 2019, the president signed legislation making it 21.
Starting point is 00:55:50 So it's a federal thing, and Trump did it. Thanks, President Trump. Yeah, I think taking care of the serious problem. Take us into the future, a cleaner, brighter, healthier future. I like it. I'm for it. I wasn't sure if I was like the cigarette prude. The cigarette prude? Nah!
Starting point is 00:56:07 Kids need them! They want to be cool. What, are you kidding a fag? You want to be some fucking loser? New Zealand is banning cigarettes for future generations. Anyone born after 2008
Starting point is 00:56:23 will not be able to buy cigarettes or tobacco in their lifetime in new zealand if i were third if i were me i just start a whole black cigarette black markets for cigarettes to sell them to obviously that will happen yeah that happens every time but there's like like 50 years from now there's going to be like a 42 year old who's buying cigarettes from a like like a 59 year old math. Yeah. I don't know. Imagine how popular those kids are going to be in school. Cause there's going to be like the sophomores can buy cigarettes or the
Starting point is 00:56:52 freshmen's can't. And then the juniors can have the soft. It's like your instant ticket to being the cool guy, basically. Yeah. Yeah. There's going to be a couple. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Well, I guess actually you have to be 18. So it would be the college people doing it, but yeah. Yeah. Lots of money to be made. Black market cigarettes in New Zealand. Again, maybe I'm the cigarette prude,
Starting point is 00:57:08 but if they did that here, if you're born after 2008, you're fucked. I'd be for that. I'd be okay with it. Get rid of them. Get rid of them? Yeah, the cigarettes? No one can smoke anymore? You can give a little, take a little.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Then we'll make pot legal for children. Yeah, you legalize weed for kids alright we'll give and take I want stone kids staggering around everywhere you want to hit them while their brains are still developing yeah that way they can adjust to the marijuana it would calm them down in school
Starting point is 00:57:38 dude there are like like I know that it's the meme with weed that people like are resistant to like anything negative about it but I know like like i know that it's the meme with weed that people like are resistant to like anything negative about it but i know personally multiple kids i went to high school in the middle school with who like smoked all the time throughout those like formative brain developing years and they are retarded like they're they're they're genuine fucking idiots like they they they stalled out for like those eight year windows between like 12 and 20.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And it's like, all right, well, you kind of just like fucked up something you're not going to get back. I have like the counter story. In my high school, there was this guy. There were like five guys. Everything about them revolved around pot. Their entire identity and self-worth was pot. Back in the day, Grateful Dead was alive for like at least part of my high school jerry garcia and you know they would like just everything they wore was grateful dead they wore tie-dye stuff for some reason they always smelled of patooli or truly whatever that fucking
Starting point is 00:58:36 shit is they reeked of it one of the kid had bad teeth from i don't know how i don't know why that's a pot thing but it's not i can't express to you how core pot was to everything about them and what they did and um uh the one guy in particular that i like knew the most he grew up to be a pretty successful it dude and it was just like i don't know how that happened but he it's. He's got a wife and kids and a good career. Still high as fuck. Probably. I know he still likes the dead. Still listen to the same fucking songs.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Because they're not making new ones as far as I know. Oh, man. I remember when that was a cool thing to be into. Oh, the Grateful Dead. Eighth grade, ninth grade. Before you were born. I just remember a couple of the cool kids would wear those goofy shirts and stuff
Starting point is 00:59:35 and I listened to a song and it's really not good music. There are three or four songs I like. I like Touch of Grey, that Sugar Magnolia one. I like that one that's 40 minutes long.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And it's like they forget they're in the middle of the song, in the middle of it, and it's a lot of crowds cheering, too much treble. Look it up, the both songs so touch of gray sugar magnolia casey jones friend of the devil might be my very favorite and that's it and deadheads would be like oh you know you only like their popular stuff yeah it is clearly their best songs that's why it's the most popular
Starting point is 01:00:23 stop judging me you like. You like that? You like that ridiculous shit with like a 30 minute instrumental? I went to a dead concert and this is the laziest band ever. They left. They like, I'm like, I don't even know who's playing right now. No one sang for a long time. I don't recognize any of these songs and I've heard their whole like every album. Just it wasn't about the music. was about the scene I guess it's like uh it's like watching Santana live there's like 14 guys up there and people just kind of drift in and out
Starting point is 01:00:56 on the stage off the stage I guess those three guys aren't needed for the next couple that's what it was they left and i think did they leave to get high i don't know what happened but yeah and oh my god like nobody was well i was sober i was the designated driver at a grateful dead concert because i'm cool like that but uh everybody was just so high and tripping and whatever it was a veteran stadium. I don't know if that even exists anymore, but it's a stadium and around it, the sort of,
Starting point is 01:01:30 you can walk and find all the seats. People were just spinning in circles, looking at the sky, doing their thing. And I'm like, this is, it is weird to me just how high everybody was and how open they were high. And there were people who toured with the grateful dead.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And literally like there was a chick with the george foreman grill who just got her entrepreneur on and started selling grilled cheeses and i'm like it's like is it sanitary to buy a grilled cheese from a hippie with the george foreman grill no you live once you know so i did it i got a grilled cheese nice you lived the real experience a grilled cheese from a dirty fingernailed lady in the back she had like a bench or something maybe it was under an umbrella but yeah is that the girlfriend we're not talking to what the my dogs keep barking out there they're excited because my wife just got home and so i'm yelling at fozzie and teddy to please be quiet because i don't want them to trickle in through the mic just so you know oh good yeah sounds like it would be like the problem with weed was always when it became an entire person's personality it's hard to tell
Starting point is 01:02:39 if it ever actually fucked somebody's brains up or if it was just that that's all they did so their brain didn't have room for anything but smoking it's always hard to tell yeah what about you have you done weed destiny um i've done a bit of things not as much as some people but more than maybe most i don't know but um yeah i'm a pretty chill person what was your uh your most fun drug experience um my my most fun drug experience, fun, uh, fun is definitely MDMA. Um, it is just an unbelievably great experience. For us idiots. Are there other names for that?
Starting point is 01:03:14 Um, some people will call it Molly. Other people will call it kind of like ecstasy. It's usually MDMA plus, uh, some other upper. Um, but it's just a very very it makes you feel like very emotional very connected uh like whoever you're with you're gonna hug them a lot and be happy and everything makes concerts a blast yeah some people do x and go to concerts and stuff um the war the most memorable drug experience i would have i would say that um yeah the very first time i did mushrooms i decided to do a monster dose because i'd only
Starting point is 01:03:44 ever smoked weed i didn't think that there was going to be like anything that would really happen. My experience with weed was just I would get almost like drunk in the head. It's like, oh, I'm goofy or whatever. So I did a fuck ton of mushrooms and I just absolutely like blasted my mind to the next dimension for like six hours. And that was probably the most traumatic experience of my life. That's the thing. So I don't have much drug experience, but I will say what i have is usually underwhelming like there's a am i high right now am i yeah okay i am but i'm just 90 regular me and 10
Starting point is 01:04:13 high are you talking about like weed yeah weed's a good example i was kind of underwhelmed by weed yeah so like this is my your this is my experience directly so i did like not like crazy amounts but like i could do like a 30 milligram edible which for no if you have no weed tolerance at all it's like an okay amount yeah like my experience being high is kind of like oh you know like i just feel kind of goofy i'm laughing a lot you know if i had to like go out and do stuff i probably could you know just kind of funny whatever and so um i wanted to do mushrooms you're like oh well mushrooms is crazy and i'm always like oh do this edible try smoke this joint and it'll be crazy it's like okay yeah whatever so when i came to doing mushrooms i ate i think the there's like
Starting point is 01:04:54 either do two grams if you want to have like fun and get maybe a little bit or you do 3.5 grams for like a full trip and then people were saying you can do five grams for a heroic dose. I ate 3.5 and I was like, I'm just going to have a trip. And then like 20 minutes into it, I'm like, here's what's going to happen. I'm going to do some, I'm not going to feel anything because I don't even think fucking drugs do
Starting point is 01:05:13 anything. It's people make shit up. So I took two more full doses. So it was 10.5. Oh my gosh. I didn't follow. And it's too much. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Like I can't there. I have a YouTube much. Yeah. Like I can't there. I have a YouTube video where I posted three hours of the trip. It's just like an otherworldly experience, like absolutely disconnected from you. You got to pick me up and move me around. I would have no idea. Cause like, like it's,
Starting point is 01:05:35 it's more when you close your eyes, you see more than when you have them open. Like that's how absolutely insane it was. But something that I learned afterwards, and I'd heard people say this, but you can't trust people about drugs ever. If they do drugs, cause everybody that does drugs is a dumb fuck. Here's something that I learned afterwards, and I'd heard people say this, but you can't trust people about drugs ever if they do drugs, because everybody that does drugs is a dumb fuck. Here's something that I heard a lot. And I found this out that weed after you've done mushrooms is a much more challenging experience. Like, so if I smoke marijuana now, it's like a stepping
Starting point is 01:06:00 into another dimension is way more extreme. But I know what you're talking about, Woody, where before, like I'd smoke with friends and I would like um you know eat edibles and it's just like this isn't really doing much for me i don't understand but yeah if you want to try like psychedelics will definitely kick you in the ass if you're did you have a really bad experience like were you just scared the whole time or were you just it's hard to like i it's hard to use words like scared or not scared it was like another dimension of like because's hard to like i it's hard to use words like scared or not scared it was like another dimension of like because you like to to lose your perception of reality and to watch that kind of like dissolve and then to see what's left is a very i mean it was scary but there wasn't really
Starting point is 01:06:37 enough of me left there to like have a fearful experience it's really it doesn't it's not gonna make sense to try to explain it but like yeah yeah i'll take your word for it i'm not gonna take 11 grams mushrooms that's horrible experience everyone that are like dmt or something will give you like uh it's a definitely different there's nothing like it in the world that will match that type of experience and it's weird to think that like that experience is out there if you're willing to like eat a couple plants to get there but yeah yeah friend and uh out of the blue he writes me this message now you have to understand this guy's a good friend of mine we've been friends for years but he's like an athletic guy and we're kind of bro friends if that makes any sense like we don't typically
Starting point is 01:07:14 go deep into like our emotions or anything like that and out of the blue he sends me this message about how much he cherishes our time together and i've got it in front of me but i don't want to read it how much he appreciates our friendship and how life is short and he's to send he's to tell me about that and i wrote something back as gay if not gayer anyway um it turns out my man did ayahuasca and it has like rewired him and he's making some life decisions and like reprioritizing what's important to him shit
Starting point is 01:07:52 about like not disturbing woodland creatures and like priorities that I don't share um what was he doing to the creatures in the woods before this I'm trying not to dox him but uh so i'm just fucking with them for no reason
Starting point is 01:08:12 harassing him so so anyway yeah like like he's he's rethought his vibe on all kinds of things and it's just like dude like ayahuasca apparently messes up your normal human priorities and has you prioritizing shit that hurts yourself i don't know a better way to phrase it so uh i don't ever want to do ayahuasca i'm pretty happy with my current sense it that's the one you have to vomit after you take it i think right it's it's a full day yeah he's he told me all about it because i'm curious he and i are different in a lot of ways but i'm open-minded to our differences and i learn and grow from them anyway he's like i took it didn't get anything from it so the guy like blew smoke in my mouth while i inhaled it and it's like well
Starting point is 01:09:03 that okay that's gay. And he's like, but that didn't do it either. So then he took eggs, which are like the essence of life and wholeness and springing from new. And he banged them on my temples. And that's what it took to send me into my trip. And all this stuff about whether the plant deems you worthy and it's like you i love you you're a little crazy right now i think you broke your brain with those chemicals i don't think there's a woodland spirit
Starting point is 01:09:35 guy speaking to you i apologize my groceries got delivered i had to put them away but what are we drug are we talking about ayahuasca ayahuasca oh that's nonsense you you fucking drink it and you drink enough of it and you get you vomit profusely and then go on a crazy trip. You don't understand how the plant decides whether or not you're worthy of getting high, whether you need to vomit. The plant makes all these decisions for you. I know a lot of people who do a lot of DMT. Some of them, unfortunately so. But none of them are crazy enough to think that that like
Starting point is 01:10:07 there's any like anything in there they know that it's a chemical doing stuff in the brain yeah i'm open to that possibility of like going to another dimension and being some elves or anything but i don't believe in it like like being open to something and believing something or two different things i'm open to there being a god i don't believe it that that's a really good point actually so he's had this trip and he feels like he's now seeing things with his third eye that he needs to consider i have had dreams where i will wake up and feel the emotions around them as they're real but like i don't i don't make life decisions based on it. I woke up, people are going to evaluate me based on this and I don't want them to. I woke up with a dream that Jackie cheated on me and I am hurt and angry as
Starting point is 01:10:55 if that was real, but I'm not filing papers because I know it's not. I know in three hours this will pass and everything's going to be okay. I've had dreams about being unable to pay the mortgage that I don't have about, you know, failing in school that I'm not in. I don't start like studying, you know, but apparently it's like semi-normal with ayahuasca and other psychedelics to take the trip you've had so seriously that you start rebalancing your life. I mean, it must do something to rewire you if it's like consistently making people make huge life decisions like this after they do it.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Or maybe he's like an exception to the rule. And most people have that more like metered out response where they have huge dreams at first of their woodland escapades and how they're going to change. And then a week later, it's like, I'm going back to real life. I don't think it's that.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I think it just gives you a lot of introspection you know it gives you let you look at yourself from a from a different viewpoint entirely um which is which can be weird but the idea that the plant doesn't deem me worthy is fucking nonsense like he's a little um open to that idea more so than i am now like karma is a good example i believe in karma but more through like am now. Karma is a good example. I believe in karma, but more through what I think is a realistic way. For example, if you put out a bad vibe all the time, then likely the people who are
Starting point is 01:12:13 sick of that shit will bail and you'll only have the people who are... Toxic people. Yeah, other toxic people will still put up with that. People who also can't get good vibe people to hang with them you know and that's why karma is real if you do something for someone you never see again like i don't know change a stranger's tire then that puts a good vibe out
Starting point is 01:12:34 there and it makes the world better in some small way maybe that small way kicks back to you but probably doesn't and that's my feeling on karma his feeling on karma is more like it is a god overseeing and scorekeeping and you know making sure that you get yours and good things come around to you and that's to me religious yeah gamblers can be like that gamblers can can have a little bit of that in them about oh yeah well like you were 95 favor to win so just know that since you lost, you're going to get 15 wins that you weren't supposed to get. Now it's like, no, I don't think my future gambling will be affected by how poorly this just went.
Starting point is 01:13:15 I think if anything, I should take note of what just happened today. I should cut my losses. Yeah, it could be like that. No, I don't believe in karma. I guess I do believe in predetermination, but I think that's more of an astrophysics-based opinion than some sort of a higher power or anything like that. I'm stuck on my version of karma,
Starting point is 01:13:35 that if you're ugly to be around all the time, the good people will leave you. Oh, I don't even know if you call that karma. I just think you call that fucking life, right? Yeah, you can't be a prick to be't be a we see that all the time you know you see that all the time like like positive people often have positive people around them but like we're often surrounded by people who are very much like us in one way or another yeah for sure we were talking about drugs and like on any drug you can find the corresponding like reddit and all the biggest enthusiasts of that
Starting point is 01:14:06 drug are there and like it's people talking about like cocaine like just in i mean they're excited they're amped up they're what do you think okay there's there's one high energy low body fat there's one called dph and dph diphenhydramine is benadryl and apparently if you take a huge dose of benadryl like these people are just like filling their entire palm with like 700 milligrams of benadryl and being like i'm gonna go to a scary place boy and like and apparently the the high off of taking a shit ton of benadryl is one of the scariest, most dissociative things you can experience. And like all of them will be like, like some of them will be like, I don't want to be addicted to this. This is the worst drug in the world. They all have like you talked about with ayahuasca, like the similar experiences.
Starting point is 01:15:01 you talked about with ayahuasca, like the similar experiences, they have an experience where like, they say they take enough Benadryl, enough DPH that they totally dissociate. They're confused. They don't understand who they are or what they are or how to move or the perception of time. They say things look staticky and all of them,
Starting point is 01:15:18 when they take a critical mass amount to talk about seeing the hat man. And it's a shadowy man made of static who is just a shadow and he's always wearing a wide brimmed hat and like they'll all be like drifter knows this guy drifter does know this guy i bet he knows the hat man but it is some of these comments are so fucking funny like they'll they'll talk about their experience being high in a ton of detail and someone who's really high on weed they're like i watched this movie it was hilarious it was great someone who was writing about being drunk oh i got a little drunk and me and my friends had a grand old time this guy's
Starting point is 01:15:53 like all right i took all of them and then i forgot i had taken as many and i took more and then i started to dissociate and i couldn't feel anything anymore it felt like i was floating on my couch and then i got this horrible fear for a couple hours, knowing that there were other people in the room all talking mean about me. And there were all these people in the room screaming at me and telling me I was evil. And then an hour after that, the hat man showed up. And it's like, this is awful. None of this is the least fun sounding drug.
Starting point is 01:16:24 You don't even get a good buzz you're just terrified for like five hours and then some of these people some of these people are like addicted to being scared and so they were giving tips on how to get even more scared they're like you know what you should do take about 750 milligrams of benadryl then get some dxm combine that with it and you're gonna see some wild stuff my friend and they're like awesome i'll try that next time and it's it's it's horrible it's i can't admit no one on this sub is like it's so much fun they're all talking about like and they post pictures of like people without face faces that don't make sense like just just things that don't make sense. Just things that don't make sense. It's very disconcerting.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Just do regular drugs, you moron. Just do regular drugs. Do real drugs. Don't dose yourself on Benadryl. Apparently, it makes alcohol look like a bitch compared to what Benadryl does to your liver and kidneys at those doses. Also, it gives you Alzheimer's.
Starting point is 01:17:23 It gives you early-ons's uh and so like it gives you early it gives you early onset dementia and so like some of these guys are like uh kept i found five searches last night of symptoms of dementia on my phone five searches i found them yeah but anyway yeah don't do benadryl kids unless you're trying to you know get rid of allergies it's a micro dose get rid of your allergies benadryl and uh cough syrup right i think are two over-the-counter things that people will abuse yeah people get real fucked up on the cough syrup i think uh i don't think you can buy that like robitussin can you buy that over the over the counter you have to be like 21 right right i think you have to be an adult to buy that over the counter? You have to be like 21, right? I think you have to
Starting point is 01:18:05 be an adult to buy that stuff because you can make meth out of it. I feel like you're talking about Sudafed. Oh, you're right. Sudafed. Yeah. I don't know. I've never actually taken that. Oh, no? I don't think so. I keep that around. I went to the doctor for
Starting point is 01:18:21 whatever, flu or cold or something like two years ago and she was great i've learned this term emotional labor are you guys familiar with this i think so so most broadly emotional labor is focused on like what moms do right you know like but also a nurse does some emotional labor. A doctor does some. When I had that strep throat, the doctor looked at it and really ratified. I'm looking for a better term. But acknowledged my pain.
Starting point is 01:18:55 She's like, ooh, I bet that hurts. And it's like, oh, thank you. I've been suffering so much. And those words meant almost as much to me as the amoxicillin did. And anyway, so I go to the doctor and she's like, yeah, you know, you get this drip and this pain and it hurts to do this. And I'm like, my gosh, like you're describing my symptoms better than I describe them to you. And she's like, we're going to get you Sudafed, the good shit that you have to ask for behind the counter. the good shit that you have to ask for behind the counter.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And that's when I learned when Sudafed became illegal and they like, not illegal, but regulated and they use your driver's license to make you buy it. They put something else called Sudafed on the shelves. That is a bullshit ineffective counterfeit. So if you just buy, if you think they sell Sudafed and it's out there in the aisles, that's not the Sudafed. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:19:45 You got to go back to the pharmacist and be like, I want the real Sudafed, the stuff you make drugs out of. And then they'll give you the effective stuff. It's a good pro tip. Next time I want to get high. Zach says you need your ID to buy Sudafedrine. I'm not good at pronouncing new words. Sudafedrine. I'm not good at pronouncing new words. I forget what the other stuff is called
Starting point is 01:20:07 that's not what I'm calling real Sudafed. But it has another name that like... Drug names don't mean anything to me. They're all fake words. Yeah. It's good to know
Starting point is 01:20:23 if I ever need to make... Is it meth? It is meth, right? Yeah, it's good to know if i ever need to make is it meth it is math right yeah it's math yeah you can i thought so i don't need i don't want any of those scary drugs well i guess what i consider a scary drug might be different than other people i don't want anything that i i don't definitely don't want to overdose on cough medicine i know that for sure of course not so like it sounds awful zach gave us the two things pseudo fed dream is the real pseudo fed pseudo fed dream is the fake shit that had to be have done on purpose yeah i would imagine so it is easy to fuck that up um it is easy to like look at the pseudo fed dream and be like wait is that the real one?
Starting point is 01:21:07 Which one did Woody say? Yeah. Yeah. You got to ask for it behind the counter, right? If you want the real stuff. Yeah. And they'll take your driver's license because they regulate how much you can buy. So there's some sort of schedule.
Starting point is 01:21:21 It's enough that a normal person won't bump into the height and into the limit. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think so either either you'd have to have a real serious call yeah i don't know i that's um how easy is it to make math like like in my head i'm like oh that's like chemistry but but then everything i know is from either breaking bad really but but it seems like the people who do it don't look very bright. I agree. I don't know how much... I've learned too much from Breaking Bad, too. Is that percent purity even a thing?
Starting point is 01:21:54 Is there better or worse meth? My guess is that you could make great meth if you just cut it less and didn't want to make as much money. maybe my guess is that ingredients to begin with like more pure stuff i got a feeling that maybe they settle for something a little more scary because i'm doing it a different way i have a feeling that like they make great shit and then
Starting point is 01:22:17 mix in a bunch of sugar or something so that they can sell twice as much i think so this is my bullshit i um i was in amsterdam a few months ago and i i think i accidentally did meth and this is what i learned afterwards that there are some drugs that are pretty complicated and pretty expensive to make the more complicated and expensive the drug the more likely it is that you're going to get some other compound that is either mimicking the effect of the drug, or it's just way cheaper, and they'll mix it with a drug, they'll cut it with a drug. So we were looking for MDMA. And we got I don't know if it was meth, but it was some amphetamine.
Starting point is 01:22:52 But apparently, MDMA is a difficult drug to make. My understanding is that when it comes to like amphetamines, so like methamphetamine, that it's relatively cheap and relatively easy. So I don't know if there's like a percent purity um like i think it all comes down to like you just have to like look at the cost of stuff you know so if somebody's trying to sell you a pill and there's like a hundred dollar pill there might be a decent chance that that pill is like fake or people will like fake stuff to make more money when it comes to like a like a tab of lsd tab of lsd is like five bucks and that lasts you all day i guess there's not much reason to like fake a drug you're
Starting point is 01:23:25 like you're not making much money so much that was like the rough guy and i don't your mileage may vary with us but this is more or less what i've heard in terms of like some drugs are pretty easy to make amphetamine stuff is like pretty easy pharmacies make it a ton of people can make it um but like more expensive like designer drugs and stuff can get more complicated you're more to either run into fakes or have people cut it with other stuff to sell more of it basically okay why slip fentanyl in meth like i don't know if people do that do they i don't think people do that they slip fentanyl into uh like heroin i think oh you're right for a cheap for a cheap kick uh because i think that that fentanyl is not only many times more
Starting point is 01:24:06 potent than heroin, but it's also many times cheaper. I can just use a little bit and give some shitty heroin a kick, is my guess. It goes back to that whole thing where people are like, oh no, people are going to put drugs in my Halloween candy. It's like, no, people like their drugs.
Starting point is 01:24:22 They're going to put them in their own mouths and eat their drugs because that's what people do with drugs that that is right people do i will say though man the um uh as much as i talk about drugs i like opiates are really really really scary um like there are some class of drugs that i stay away from but like opiates are like on the they're they just man opiates are so scary you got to be so careful with that. Um, it takes a lot to hurt yourself with certain types of drugs as much as you shouldn't do them or as harmful as it can be, you know, but like opiates, man, that I just had a friend, um, that OD like two weeks ago and she died. She's like 23 that I knew in California. And it was because she was up to the point to where she was like doing, um, I guess,
Starting point is 01:25:03 crush bags of like fentanyl, like mixing it a little bit and to see people that are relatively healthy and young and then can do a drug like that and od and die uh oof that's that's really really scary that's like did she look bad on the way towards od or did she maintain a pretty normal life um outwardly i don't think you'd ever be able to tell really you'd have no idea that she no absolutely oh no i know this because i didn't even know she did opiates i had no idea we'd smoked a couple times and then my fiance got a message from her mom on instagram she's like hey just you know this person passed away on friday we thought it was suicide i thought she killed herself um and then later on a few friends reached out and she just had a bag and mixed a little bit
Starting point is 01:25:41 of fentanyl and ended up od'ing on it it was like jesus yeah yeah i know someone from high school who died from uh fentanyl and cocaine and they od'd on it and that's all she wrote the fentanyl is fucking scary like you see those pictures where it's like lethal doses of different drugs and fentanyl it's like an amount of like you could sprinkle that on someone's plate 10 times over and they would have no idea like it wouldn't shut it's just nothing it's spooky fentanyl became can i get this out the number one cause of death for adults between 18 and 45 yeah fentanyl overdose jesus fuck that's insane it's like in school when you saw the little uraniums and people were like oh one speck of uranium if you inhale it will give you radiation
Starting point is 01:26:28 it was like nobody really is worried about that but the fentanyl stuff is is real and available yeah it sucks and the one thing about opiates it seems to pull in people who can have their shit together right like i i don't know how to say it but like if you're an alcoholic it doesn't seem to grab so indiscriminately right if people are drinking on a regular basis kind of signing up for alcoholism almost um i wish i had other good examples but like other bad behaviors you kind of opt into them. Opiates, it's like your back hurts for 14 days. Yeah. And now you're a drug addict who needs more.
Starting point is 01:27:14 And it's like, this was a certified public accountant, right? The pinnacle of careers. He got the apex. He managed to get hooked on opiates if it can happen to him it can happen to anyone yeah i mean a lot of times i've always been really careful is is people like they get on those pills and then the pill supply runs out and so they steal from their grandparents or something i i know someone in high school that they're still addicted to painkillers big time uh now to this day and he used to steal like hundreds of of high
Starting point is 01:27:52 dose like 80 milligram oxycontin from his his grandma every single month and like sell it to people and take them uh but he is like from a family with a shit ton of money and so he's never going to go down the heroin fentanyl route but a lot most people shit ton of money, and so he's never going to go down the heroin, fentanyl route. But most people don't have that money, and so they can't afford OxyContin anymore, and so then they go with heroin or they go with fentanyl because they still need to get high. They're still physically addicted.
Starting point is 01:28:16 You're saying that, but he might anyway. He might be in a crowd that does. Maybe enough opiates, and it normalizes the idea of using heroin that who knows maybe yeah tons of people get wasn't it like uh rush limbaugh he was popping those things like like candy for many years that's why i made it didn't it was related to why he went deaf i think it can make you go deaf i don't i don't know if that's the reason he did if he if he did go deaf then that probably is the reason yeah it is the reason yeah i can't imagine for the opiates but for um the closest thing i can think of is mdma and i've read because we've done mdma quite a few times quite a few times
Starting point is 01:28:55 probably less than 15 times but um i've read about like what the opiate high feels like and i will say that like after doing mdma um for me it was a relatively cold and disconnected person it is an unimaginably like when i'm on mdma i'm thinking like you know what like if i took enough of this and i die right now i would be totally okay with that because this is just such an amazing time um if you've never messed with opiates there is you are you are um man fuck hold on i'm trying to romanticize this but you're touching something that is just otherworldly in terms of feeling and i don't think people you've never felt anything like that before it like i can see how people could get hooked yeah is it easy to get laid when the girls are on molly you can but for a lot of you have something called meth dick a lot of times your dick doesn't work so i've never had sex on that drug before but some people supposedly
Starting point is 01:29:44 can but my dick is pretty functional and i'm never able to do it on on my method a lot of uppers are wait did i mix meth and mdma i think well mdma is also an amphetamine it's meth i don't remember what it's saying but it has a similar effect to meth and i mean where meth is also you don't get an erection at all or generally you don't i your mileage may vary but but yeah those highs are insane what if you mix meth with tadalafil let them fight it's like putting a humidifier and dehumidifier in the same room seeing how that goes i mean it might work you're not supposed to mix uppers and downers for a reason but hey listen oh it's it's it's a it's a vasodilator yeah i'm close to that word. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:30:26 There's a meth Reddit. You go to that one, you can hear them talking all about their meth dick not working and they'll be like, I smoked meth and then I jacked off for nine hours with my not working dick. Oh my god. This seems horrible.
Starting point is 01:30:41 The worst part is my skin is like a four and a half hour skin. Just trying to get your dick hard for hours. I'm pretty sure it's anti-diuretic as well. I remember at one point I was standing in front of the toilet feeling I really had to pee for about two hours. I just stood there. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:31:00 And I think me and my fans were standing. I was like, our legs are getting sore. But the time will pass so quickly that you'll look at the clock and it's like it's nine o'clock we chat for a little bit you look like it's like 12 o'clock what the fuck is happening i don't know where the time is going so we had an ecstasy kingpin on the show and he said that people would get into cuddle puddles and they'd all just have warm vibes and sort of snuggle together and uh that's why i thought that maybe people were getting late i didn't he never mentioned the myth dick it's not really it's it's hard to explain but it's not
Starting point is 01:31:30 really like uh it's not sexual it's just very emotional like you want to like like other people's skin feels really good and like uh like oh like you're hugging somebody and it doesn't feel like comforting and emotionally warm whatever but it's not really like a sexual like i want to fuck you it's more just like i really want to hug you and tell you all the nice things i can think of about you basically i can't imagine spooning with some girl and not feeling sexual well try mdma sometime and you'll get it all right we need to find the the drug that blows you away woody you've been underwhelmed by weed We need to take you through a gauntlet. Turns out it's Crocodile. He loves Crocodile.
Starting point is 01:32:08 That shit did not catch on anywhere but Russia. Do you remember those pictures though? From like 2011 where like the newest drug like Vice was doing a story on it. And it just showed people with like still had flesh on their hand and then like five inches of
Starting point is 01:32:23 forearm bone and then back to flesh and it's like there's no way it feels that good to to necrotize your forearm yeah i don't want any uh any of that um i i i like weed and uh acid's awesome um it's psychedelics in general seem like a good time but and and opiates are just too scary to fuck with because whenever I got that codeine cough syrup, I loved it so, so much. I didn't want anything else ever. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Anything else. That's why I'm too afraid to do any opiates, even try it. I don't want to know. I don't want to know how great it is. I'd rather be steering clear of it. It's like warm love in a bottle that tastes like strawberry kisses and it hits you on like the level of your soul like you'll feel good in ways that you didn't even know you could feel it's like an indescribable feeling of oh god yeah
Starting point is 01:33:17 like you see like on cartoons you see people like rolling around on the floor like oh you're like that's so goofy it's like you will you'll want to and it'll feel that good man i wonder how much a bottle on the street because i remember like a prescript like a big bottle of it with my prescription was like cheap like 30 or something but i think i've heard people like when i got it somebody was like yo let me get that i'll give you 1500 i think and i was just like first of all this is my goddamn cough syrup that i need like like fuck you like like but really 1500 i this is my goddamn cough syrup that I need. Like, fuck you. But really? 1,500?
Starting point is 01:33:49 I think somebody offered me something like that for my bottle of codeine. I didn't take it, obviously, because I wanted my fucking cough syrup. But like, I wanted it to be really valuable. I mean, 1,500 seems... Yeah, yeah. Because that's the codeine you can drink without it. Like, there's no acetaminophen in it so it's not fucking up your liver right if you say so um i just remember it was coding a fucking bottle and it was really good it i think in some places they flavor it so it tastes awful so it's really hard
Starting point is 01:34:15 to abuse but in georgia they make it taste like candy it's so good have you ever accidentally taken like too much nyquil when you've been sick? I've taken a bunch. Probably. I just felt really spaced out and the frame rate on my life went down. Yeah. It was maybe five years ago. What a good description. I was feeling just dog shit.
Starting point is 01:34:38 I had the flu or something. And I took two of the cups of NyQuil. And I think it was my fifth day of being sick. And I hadn like two of the cups of NyQuil. And I think like it was like my fifth day of being sick and I hadn't been sleeping. And I'm like, today you're sleeping, bitch. Like you're going to be out. And so I took way too much NyQuil. And I remember like it's like a dissociative feeling. Like you're like you don't know where you are or like your thoughts don't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:35:04 You don't make any sense. don't make any sense like i remember like laying in bed and i i slept but it was more like a night terror yeah of of like uh i remember i saw like a big spider looking thing i was laying in my bed and i like was in the middle of taking too much fucking shit and i saw like just a fuzzy thing i guarantee it was just like a fuzz ball that didn't exist, but I saw it up there and I thought it probably doesn't know where I am. And so I, so I didn't get scared,
Starting point is 01:35:31 but it was like the next day I woke up like not feeling rested, feeling really weird. And it was like, yeah, that was, that was too much NyQuil. It probably doesn't know where I am. It,
Starting point is 01:35:41 my thoughts, they, they weren't making sense. Like I, and I knew on some level, my thoughts weren't making sense like i and i knew on some level my thoughts weren't making sense like i would i would get up and like walk into the kitchen and totally forget anything i'd been doing any thought i had like walk back like nothing was being accomplished it was just it was weird i hated it like dissociative is the way it makes you feel
Starting point is 01:35:58 like you're not really you're not really in your body like it's not really you doing it it's like you're watching a TV show of someone controlling you. Yeah, I don't think I want that. I want to alter my reality. But I want to stay here for the most part. Whenever they talk about the two different kinds of DMT, there's the one
Starting point is 01:36:18 that they make from the toad venom. It's like, I'm wrong, but dimethyl 5-oxy nonsense, whatever the fuck. Just name it fucking Blue Boy or something. Get some real drug names, dude. I can't smoke... I haven't smoked weed in the last 10 years without it
Starting point is 01:36:34 fucking being called something cutesy. Name your drug something cool. But like... The acid makes sense. The marijuana makes sense. But there's no way i want to go to like a place where everything turns white and i'm like a stick figure that doesn't know what i am and time my and my perception of time is altered such that like maybe i was in there as a stick
Starting point is 01:36:56 figure man in the white world for a year i don't even fucking know anymore um you might come back out not knowing what not knowing enough about the real world. But just the regular DMT, the stuff that they're vaping and making out of that bark or whatever the fuck in their kitchens and smoking out of oil pipes that look like those crack pipes, which I guess is what you call them, that seems like a real good fucking time because they're seeing gnomes and colors and kaleidoscopes of goodness. I mean, there's the guy in our hangout who smokes DMT every day.
Starting point is 01:37:28 All the time. All the time throughout the day. That seems like too much DMT. It's not going well for him. We'll talk about that later. Oh, no. He's smoking too much. He makes it every day.
Starting point is 01:37:38 I wanted it to be consequence-free for him. Yeah. You mean him smoking DMT, like chaining dmt hits five times during our hangout and like that's not a good idea turned out it was what if that's okay hmm is he losing his mind i haven't seen him in a while um he just posts pictures every now and then of his face and he's always real high he's like look at my high face and it's like and he does look blasted but you're like dude you're you always have high face like he's always just like this is the smaller one right where's the no this is the big one okay you got it and he's not it's not his high face on weed it's just based
Starting point is 01:38:19 on tmt yeah yeah on tmt i don't even know how you get that much of it. I guess what you said. They make it. People are making it in their own kitchens. They just make it in their own kitchens. It's all kind of bark. Yeah. Or seed, maybe. I'm sure bark.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Okay. I won't go too much into the whole process. Probably best we don't. Yeah, but they do. If they can do it in their kitchen, it's probably easy. Do you remember when salvia became like a popular meme many many years ago that's a drug i don't even think they ever made that illegal because it's it looks like so little fun what is it also legal to punch yourself in the balls yeah no there's
Starting point is 01:38:58 as hard as you want go for it have you seen that viral video of like it's like two brothers sitting on a porch and they're like all right come on we're gonna take a big hit of salvia and they both do it and immediately like one of them falls off of the stairs they're sitting on and the other one starts going like what what's going on what's going on help and it's like and it doesn't it looks horrible at one point like no it's they're really doing it like you can see videos of people doing salvia and it's it's it's a total dissociative so like they forget who they are and what they are and what they're doing stop with that i want to know who i am and then like their dad came out on the porch clearly their dad and they're like both like high on salvia, like barely functioning,
Starting point is 01:39:48 screaming for help. And they're like, God dang you boys again. And then the video cuts. So they've been doing salvia in the backyard. What is Kratom? Because I see like that shit at my gas. I see that at the Delta 8 store.
Starting point is 01:40:00 I've never tried it, but it's supposed to be like, like you put it in a tea and it tastes really bad but it makes you super relaxed and feel good it's similar to an opium is an opiate right i maybe it is i think it's supposed to do something similar to it they sell it the fucking gas station in like bags it looked like a green powder to me but i didn't really yeah yeah like big bags although they sell delta 8 here i don't know if they have delta 8 where you are destiny but like they have when you go to my delta 8 store um they have it's like hemp
Starting point is 01:40:32 but it looks just like marijuana and it's sprayed with delta 8 and they've got like 30 fucking pounds of it just sitting there in a big fucking pile but then they've got like every variation of of uh the ways to like intake it are you gonna try kratom fuck no i don't know anything about it like like like i i'm not really interested in a new drug right now anyway i'm relaxed anyway i'm having a good time yeah you're still in california right destiny no i actually just moved to miami oh miami what what triggered that um people in la suck uh just change the scenery also uh state taxes are way better here because they're not existent Oh, Miami. What triggered that? People in LA suck. Just a change of scenery.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Also, state taxes are way better here because they're zero. Non-existence. I've never heard anyone say they like the people in California. It's really rare for someone to think that California is filled with swell guys. I'll give you a try. What's wrong with the people in California? I've rarely heard it described well. They're just fucking losers. It's just like all of it is...
Starting point is 01:41:27 They're very wealthy, successful, Silicon Valley. No, that's not. Those people all live out of the city. Those people live in Elson. Those people live in fucking Lake Tahoe and shit. No, but like, I mean, there are those people, but when you are... This is the feeling that I get. It might just be the crowds that I run in. And I'm sure that you guys have played the networking games
Starting point is 01:41:44 and the fucking, you you know whatever bullshit scene like anytime you go to a party you're hanging out with people just constantly like i need to talk to this guy like i need to show off i need to be cool i need to you know i'm trying to climb i'm trying to network i'm trying to figure this out i want to give you my business card or pitch an idea like like it's those types of like obsessively image focused people um in in every party you're at um not to rag on you know whatever you guys are like every girl has like massive fake boobs massive fake face tons of makeup filtering everything like the guys are fucking cringy and crazy and it's just like not a good time it feels like a black
Starting point is 01:42:15 mirror episode like the whole everything does and just not yeah i don't know i haven't so i for a while i flew in california often, this paragliding silliness. And it seemed like the people there were very interested in stack ranking, right? In North Carolina, there's more of a, hey, we're all into this really ridiculous thing. And it's like a bonding agent where people can become friends and talk to each other because we have something in common. In California, it was more like, okay, we all know he's the best here he's the second best here our self-worth not self-worth but our value as a person is associated by how like cool we are
Starting point is 01:42:53 which is often tied into how well you fly and that i was like fuck california is weird that way like why can't we just be nice yeah it's yeah well miami's a good pick you still get all the benefit of the weather which would be like was that a driving force do you yeah but miami's awesome have you heard of hurricane season oh fuck hurricanes they have one every year they don't have any snow the weather is beautiful and perfect in my opinion opinion, Miami is hot and muggy. California doesn't, or at least near LA, I didn't really feel like it got muggy that much to me, but in Miami, it gets muggy all the time. My fiancee likes beach stuff
Starting point is 01:43:33 and outdoor shit, so that was a big plus for her, is to be able to come here and swim at the beach and shit all the time. Yeah, that's a big selling point for anyone. Except for Kyle. Kyle, you've said you don't want to live near a beach. Disgusting. I would love to be near the beach. That'd be so fun i liked it i despise it i don't like the sand the salt the water the sun or the people that's the whole thing yeah yeah there's not a lot of pros there you know what i liked so it seems like everyone else in the world has this sixth sense of where north is
Starting point is 01:44:00 and it's not that i can't look at the sun and know the time of day and have a general idea but i get a little mixed up sometimes you know especially if it's a certain time if it's 4 p.m at winter time just how high is the sun supposed to i don't know when i lived at the beach i always knew where east was always it was my like northern star. I just had a sense. It's hard to describe the importance of it, but I always knew how to get home. I always knew how to like head to the coast and go North or South. I always knew where East was. I always had this like sense of direction that in fucking apex, North Carolina,
Starting point is 01:44:40 I didn't have. That's Kyle remembers. When did you move from, when did you move to North Carolina I was uh 26 I wonder if maybe I'm catching maybe you weren't quite old enough but I will say that cell phones have destroyed my ability to navigate anywhere because when I was a kid I grew up in Omaha Nebraska you could give me an address and I'll tell you exactly you know you want to go to uh you know 44 52nd you know northwest
Starting point is 01:45:06 100 second street it's like oh that's you know five blocks north of maybelline you go there there you go 70 second i don't know everything i find anything with an address i live in california for three years i use google maps for everything i don't know if i could have found the fucking grocery store five minutes away from my apartment because it's just so it's just a habit for me that as soon as i jump in my car you plug it into my maps and i just like i'm looking at my phone i'm driving and uh yeah i don't know if anybody else has that experience with map stuff but it definitely hurt i memorize it using like after i make a route enough times i memorize it maybe five or six times if it's an hour or so but you know it takes a while depends on the turns or whatever but but
Starting point is 01:45:36 yeah after a while i don't need to use it but i still use it because ways tells me if there's cops in the way or something pulled over the side of the road and all the cool things that ways does and ways has this stupid thing that's like it's got the candies from candy crush and it puts them in the road in my way so i'm like pac-man if i if i pull over i don't get to eat another candy so you gotta keep driving yeah i keep driving like you i will eventually learn a route i'm probably slower at it i learn routes pretty slowly because i there's like a weird kind of i'm not paying attention because of the GPS. It doesn't require, it doesn't punish you for failing to pay attention.
Starting point is 01:46:10 It keeps you, it lets you know when it's coming up. And I learned pretty slowly. Um, shit. I totally empathize. Like I, I am directionally like the worst person I know. I've always been very, very bad directionally like the worst person I know. I've always been very, very bad directionally. And like, I learned how to get places from my house. And so every time I move,
Starting point is 01:46:33 I have to like relearn and like re input all that stuff. Cause it's like, I still know I'm going to the same highways, but it's like, no, I need to like ingrain this. And so like, I remember when I was like 10 years old like my my
Starting point is 01:46:46 younger brother who's a you know you're gonna have two years younger than me he's a directions wizard like while i was in my my parents were like that's because like you didn't stop talking and he would just like sit there and look out the window as we were driving and he figured it all out and there was one day we were like on the way back from something i was now look at you you're professional yeah now look at me now look at me now maps lately cartography career coming along like an idiot but uh yeah i remember it was just one day my mom was driving me and my younger brother there's nothing really to do it's like a saturday and she was like taylor direct us home i want to see if you can get us home and my brother's like mom please no he was he was like eight i was like 10 okay and and he could get us anywhere in the city drop of a hat i don't know how he retains it so well he'll be in a city for three days and he
Starting point is 01:47:40 knows everything and i was like okay and like i I was like, okay. And like, I immediately was like, I hope my guesses are good because at no point was I like correct. She's like, all right, right. Or left here. And like, I took, I'm like left. And like, we get on highway, like 64 East. I live in St. Louis in, in 15 minutes, we are in Illinois. Yep. It's just a totally different state i i got like frustrated and and stopped giving directions so they drove us home river as some sort of northern star oh i i knew as soon as i saw the river that we were going the wrong way but i didn't know until then you know i guess i
Starting point is 01:48:18 could have looked at the arch but so i crossed it a couple times on the tat and uh i'm like this is undervalued this is a pretty legit like people look at the two oceans but the mississippi river is neat in the middle it's a yeah it's a cool thing and oh it's huge on the way home it was filled with trees like legitimately like full size trees coming down the river all like how do you drive your boat up river like you're not supposed to fuck around if you have like a person boat it's like barges in a lot of those areas are the only things there like every year someone there were no water skiers on the mississippi river yeah people will oh you don't want to it's pure just brown as mud i was about to say it's known for its crystal clear
Starting point is 01:49:01 clean waters yeah like pearl of the united states tom Sawyer made it seem like a good place to swim, maybe. He made it seem like a good place to escape slave catchers. I mean, if we're being honest. He didn't love it. That's why it was so good to escape the tumultuousness of the water. Yeah, it is not a clean river. It's fast moving, and people drown in it every year when they try and swim across.
Starting point is 01:49:24 It's like, just take a bridge. Who are you trying to prove? You're going to swim across a 500-yard-wide river? If you're a swimmer, though, I think there's tons of those little benchmarks that you want to check off. I'm sure that's a whole class of fucking swimming, like swimming across rivers.
Starting point is 01:49:40 But you don't want to get smoked by a giant branch or something. You could be a great swimmer. Because you're moving with it. I know that people die when they try and swim across it i'm sure people make it too i think they get like sucked under the legs i'm doing it this summer just to fuck with you i'm gonna ride my motorcycle to the mississippi river and swim across do it in spring like after the rainiest time of year when it's just surging that might be what i saw it was j. It's probably pretty good. I would like to go
Starting point is 01:50:07 this week after we do our fitness podcast, we should talk about like... What if we do? We start a whole other podcast. No one listens to it. Absolutely not. Dozens.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Thousands. I don't know. There's people listening to this. Y'all know that, right? Y'all know this isn't just for fun. We're doing the fitness podcast shirtless. Oh, I'm out. And for that reason, I'm out. Oh, we talk about addresses and like sense of direction.
Starting point is 01:50:43 Salt Lake City does something kind of cool you guys familiar with this no all the addresses are based on their proximity to the more to the mormon church so it'll be like and it's in like some unit of measurement i don't i don't think it's miles it's more like blocks or something but an address will be like one two four east five six seven north and to someone who knows the code they could freaking pinpoint it on a map and know exactly where it is bizarre it's a nice like if you say you live on sorry 13 asbury avenue in some town like that means nothing to anyone who doesn't know where that street is but with this sort of directional proximity of the church they could put it right there fair i suppose so um i guess you don't need your phone
Starting point is 01:51:30 to use a system like that no but i would still use it yes just to know that i for traffic and i hate getting lost like my like i'll get lost like driving sometimes and i'm with my wife and like she'll like talk me off the ledge because like once i get lights like the thing i'm so insecure about my inability to know directions and i like get lost and she's like it's okay you just got to double back here and i'm like fucking every fucking time i'm such a fucking retard i can't figure out simple fucking directions an idiot a monkey could do this she's like taylor please please calm down and i'm like oh oh you want your fucking retard monkey boy husband to calm down i get so mad at myself for directions
Starting point is 01:52:19 and like it's gotten to be a real thing where like if i take a wrong turn now i'm like you know what no taylor let's you're not you're not a stupid retard for taking a wrong turn that you've done a hundred times but in some level it's like but i am for for fucking that up again i hate it i get so embarrassed when i fuck up directions you need some kratom i need some kratom i need these opiates destiny's talking about show me the fuck are you upset about getting lost because you're in a rush mad about making a mistake or is it about being uncomfortable being lost i i'm uncomfortable being lost because even when i know where i am i'm not 100 sure where i am and but mostly it's like simple misses that i shouldn't have gotten and it's just like embarrassing and it's like what what is with you? How can you not remember
Starting point is 01:53:05 simple things? I get lost all the time, Taylor. I can hardly, like I am so comfy being lost. I don't give a fuck. Most of the time, twice a week, I'll go on a motorcycle ride just like, you know what? Today Northeast. Which, I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:53:22 If there's a car in front of me that's slow. Woody, that's south! Oh, it turns that way it just start i lose all sense of direction and then it'll be like all right you know what i think towns are interesting to drive in anytime i think a car is slow i'm turning and that's just okay that's our rule set for today and who and then i don't know 45 minutes later so i'll turn on the gps and find my home. I feel like you just did the ego lift thing. So earlier, you were like, people complain about ego lifting, you know, when you're, you know, you're benching 315 or whatever. Now you don't ego lifting. It's like, okay, well, good for you.
Starting point is 01:53:56 There's probably a difference between like getting upset that you're getting lost while trying to navigate to the grocery store than when you're taking a leisurely, you know, cross-country tour and you're hardly just having fun. And it's probably a different feeling i would imagine when i'm getting lost i'm not meandering about yeah i'm trying to get somewhere and i'm failing that's different that's the part i couldn't relate to yeah i just i hate directions i don't like it you know what i don't like like like i feel like this is some old man shit to talk about but like it wasn't that long ago before there was no fucking navigation and i i can remember one time i a bunch of times printing out the map quest yeah having that paper having that map quest paper in the passenger seat fucking like and like looking over there like 285 east or west east or west and if you if you fucked up you
Starting point is 01:54:45 had to go into the gas station and get the every gas station had the 50 state road maps and you'd open it up and you start counting the mile markers to see where you fucked up or whatever and yeah what i don't like now is when people start giving me directions it like you know oh you're going to here you're gonna want to head like one and a half, maybe seven and a half miles, something like that up this road. Make a left. You can't miss it. Okay, first of all, your distance is ridiculous. Second, you vastly underestimate
Starting point is 01:55:14 my ability to miss things, right? I can miss it, I promise you. And can we just skip ahead to the address part? Or I can ask Siri for it. But the thing you're doing now talking about all the lefts and rights what is this the fucking 70s stop it describing what the journey is going to be like more than giving you directions like like i don't like i don't i don't get that either
Starting point is 01:55:36 i can't imagine people try to do it i'm like well you know i've got a phone with navigation in it yeah i'm certainly not going to turn right at the big house if you see a guy pushing a grocery cart turn left there slow down are you sure smell you start to smell that's bullshit but but that was awful i i i was driving from Franklin County, Georgia to fucking Alpharetta with MapQuest directions and somehow I ended up on the wrong side of the fucking city heading to Alabama at one point.
Starting point is 01:56:13 It was so scary for like an 18, 19 year old me. Fucking turned it out directions. Navigation's wonderful. And Waze is so good. Yeah, Waze is the best one. It might be better. I haven't given it a try in a long time but ways used to have you turn way too much yeah you know like there's a 14 minute drive and it's got you driving through people's fucking living room
Starting point is 01:56:36 20 seconds you're taking like three left turns to like avoid a stoplight ways was super it used to google maps has gotten better ways google maps got better but ways was the thing that like for la you were always on ways way back in the day i say back in the day like five or six years ago you were on ways over google maps because google maps will have you like it'll be a 37 minute drive you you know you're on the five you go four or five whatever and then you're there but on ways like you said it'll be like 52 direction if you miss any of them you're fucked but it'll have you like there's a stop lead of them, you're fucked. But it'll have you like, there's a stoplight up here and you're going left and you're like cutting through
Starting point is 01:57:08 this neighbor's yard and then you're coming out here and then you're out past the stoplight and it's like, yeah, the Waze directions were insane. Cutting through a neighbor's yard is only a slight exaggeration. Maybe. I don't know. Some of those Waze directions were crazy. It was actually crazy. Like this is a
Starting point is 01:57:23 person's neighborhood. am i why are you sending traffic through it it gave me like three options usually and uh you know i could pick the one that's like yeah i don't care just put me on the interstate let's go i don't i don't want to save a minute to drive through a town but i i love it for just like knowing where cops are so that i can drive a little above the speed limit and knowing if there's gonna be a slowdown or something like that you know the top thing's good they you know what they need to do is they need to have advisors on these apps that tell you uh okay there is a cop running right over here but how fast you have to go for them to pull you over that's what i want to know because that varies from state to state like
Starting point is 01:57:55 i i haven't got a spinning table selling but i remember sometimes i would i got pulled over one time going over uh i was going like 85 and uh 70 and they got you know how fast you were going it's like yeah i was going 15 over like is that is that they got, you know how fast you were going? It's like, yeah, I was going 15 over. Like, is that, is that what we're, is that what we draw the line out here? Cause there's a bunch of people going 80.
Starting point is 01:58:08 You don't give a fuck about, you know? Yeah. The, the, the figuring out where the line is on like, cause in some place you go five over and that's it. Not a lot of places you go like 10,
Starting point is 01:58:15 15 over. It doesn't matter. And then when you get like 20 or 30 over it, now you're getting your ass busted if a cop sees you. But yeah, I always try and stay at nine over. Cause I always feel like, I feel like i feel like nine
Starting point is 01:58:25 is like nobody's getting pulled over for going 79 in a 70 sometimes i'll make it 14 over the idea being that so when a police has a radar gun sometimes it has an alarm on it and they'll set that to what they give a fuck about and my guess is they use 10 and 15 as numbers so if i use 9 and 14 as my numbers then i'm avoiding problems that's the theory it might be full of crap but i drive 90 in the city and i use ways 90 in the city i don't know what the speed limits are but not like in the city i mean like like around atlanta like on the on the highway you don't even know that i don't know it varies from like 285 to 75 i drive 90 in the city and i hope those are speed bumps yeah um and like don't think that i'm the
Starting point is 01:59:13 fastest car ever like like i've never seen anybody get pulled over in atlanta for speeding how often do you get passed by somebody every like every five minutes like somebody's flying past me going real fast if i'm going 90 if i'm going 90 a motorcycle will pass me going so fast that it looks like that that's that transition from star trek where it just goes and like disappears and it makes a noise that's just like boom like tour space time for a second dude i love those guys like when you're on like if i'm on highway 70 like just going straight towards like kansas city and some guy on a bike blasts past me going 40 over it's like you are a king thank you so much because now i can accelerate to like 30 over and just draft behind you and eventually he'll lose me but like i get you know a couple
Starting point is 02:00:03 dozen miles they're the canary in the coal mine because you know as long as they're ahead of you going fast enough you're not getting pulled over yeah yeah we do that on our like every so often on our bikes we like to go fast and uh if a bait car goes by we do just what you said follow him yeah yeah yeah i think everybody does that like if i'm going 85 i'm like all right let's keep an eye out this isn't too fast but i could get pulled over but if somebody passes me going 90 i'm like follow the leader like kyle are you comfortable going like over 80 and such now well i noticed that over 80 i call that mr freeze because i think it gets down to about negative. Where's absolute zero?
Starting point is 02:00:47 It's zero Kelvin. Did I do this in Kelvin? I usually stay off the interstate, especially recently because it's so fucking cold and I've yet to buy winter gear. So I just throw a leather jacket over my riding stuff and throw on some sweatpants
Starting point is 02:01:04 under my riding pants and fucking go. But I don't ride for very long. Maybe an hour. And when I get back, I shit. I'm glad you're still liking it so much. It's fun. It's so fast. I like just being able to zip around and use acceleration
Starting point is 02:01:19 at low speeds. I really don't enjoy going super fast or anything. I just like cruising around and being lazy on it. Seeing how much fun you guys have on your motorcycles like it it's one of those things that i want to want to do it you know like i don't want a motorcycle and i don't want to ride one but i want to want it like because it looks so much fun it's kind of like having a superpower like you're not faster than every car, right? I think Teslas are faster. There's a few and far between.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Gosh, it's weird that acceleration can be a safety feature. When you want to get away from what's happening nearby, it's a twist of the wrist. On my bigger bike, good gosh, it keeps accelerating for so long. If you're going 90 and you want to go 115 that's quick
Starting point is 02:02:07 yeah if i want if i'm going 90 in my truck and i floor it you probably won't notice and it has 400 horsepower yeah and at 105 it's limited that's as quick as it goes oh that's lame i'm interested i guess i guess how often are you going 110 in your truck i really it indicated 106 but uh home depot's having a signal although you did find out so yeah yeah but um uh on the bike though like good i i was like is it really lurch forward at 90 let's try it right now and see what's up yeah it does you twist your wrist at 90 and like it pulls you back yeah back. That power to weight ratio can't be matched by anything outside of a motorcycle. It's pretty wild. It's fun.
Starting point is 02:02:50 It's scary too. I scare myself every week. Something happens. Well, no accidents yet. You had the one the first day. The bike tipping over. That's not really an accident.
Starting point is 02:03:04 I just tipped it over a little. Yeah, just tipped it over. We weren't in traffic. You haven't shared them. Have you had any other incidents that were off the bike at all? I've entered some curves incorrectly and had to maneuver out of that.
Starting point is 02:03:20 I stayed on the fucking road and the bike hasn't fallen over. Some I entered too slow and some too fast have you ever had this feeling where like you enter a curve quicker than you should have and you probably know intellectually that your bike is capable of making this curve if you took an expert rider put him that situation he'd handle it masterfully but for some reason you feel like you can't ask it to turn that fast. So you go straight and lock up the brakes for something instead. Like, has that ever happened to you?
Starting point is 02:03:51 I think they really drilled it into us in that thing that like the bike will just do so much more than you think. And even on those shitty bikes at low speeds, I was always shocked at just how far I could lay it over so i've had to lay mine over like a lot farther than i wanted to before and it just stuck and i really try to avoid that because it's scary as fuck but what i what i've also tried to do is like get it into my head that it's like it's a better wreck if i'm late if i lay over too far than if i and ride off to where bikes aren't supposed to go like who knows what that means if If it's a guardrail, a house, a yard, a barbed wire fucking fence,
Starting point is 02:04:28 any of that shit would be gruesome. Yeah. Cool, cool. No, but it's fucking scary at times. I'm excited to see what your next extreme hobby is, Woody. Paramotoring won't keep you satiated forever. He needs to do something with his fitness right? There has to be like
Starting point is 02:04:46 I think he should take that into the combat arena. Street fighting. I'm thinking that thing where you hang from hooks just add that to the gym. Suspension work. Little suspension work. Little hook play. That shit is so gross. Now you're judging my kinks. Yeah what's your problem? That's gross.
Starting point is 02:05:03 I'm not a big fan of when we had Fil on and filthy was like like talking about it like as a because i think he said he did it right yeah he did the suspension i can't imagine that that doesn't seem fun in any way destiny we're talking about where they take those metal hooks and they hook it like subcutaneously and then they hang yeah this was uh what saw four i think where they had that trap with the yeah yeah they borrowed it They hook it subcutaneously, and then they hang from the metal hooks on there. This was Saw 4, I think, where they had that trap. Yeah, they borrowed it from these fucking
Starting point is 02:05:30 weird people who enjoy doing that. And it seems painful. It can't be good for you. Wait, what is this? There must be more to this because all you're telling me is they're hanging themselves from these hooks. They scoop hooks underneath their skin, and then they hang up on a big apparatus and
Starting point is 02:05:46 they'll have someone like push them there's lots of they'll be hung by different areas of their skin and sometimes like it looks like it's about to just rip right through apparently they get a huge rush of euphoria it i'm no one to judge but it almost sounds a little bit like self-harm in some ways but but different in others and it can also it can be like a bdsm thing as well as like sort of a spiritual thing because i see people do it a lot from like trees or or from like various kinds of platforms and i see it involved in like religious ceremonies and all sorts of like rites of passage and like people are doing for different reasons there's clearly a lot of americans who just think it's fucking cool to hang themselves from hooks though.
Starting point is 02:06:25 And, uh, it's not for me. There's suspension bondage that doesn't involve hooks. Totally. Right. Imagine like boots with a little circle on it. Like you'd hope to, uh,
Starting point is 02:06:38 ropes, boots, uh, bracelets that are like, you know, big and sort of meant for suspension. Um, that seems like the way to get started in suspension play. Yeah. I don't want to, bracelets that are big and sort of meant for suspension. That seems like the way to get started in suspension play.
Starting point is 02:06:53 Yeah, I don't even think they're the same sport, really. I mean, in both things you're hanging, but I think the hooks going in is the fucking main point. They're like, what, you're clipping in? What a pussy. I guess. I don't know, in my head, if you're going to get started in water sports, you pee on your partner in the shower. This is where we introduce this to the play. And then when you get more advanced, you move it to the bedroom.
Starting point is 02:07:16 And then when you actually know what you're doing, you go back to the bathroom because you don't want to be pissing in your bed. Certainly not. That's gross. I can't imagine that advanced water sports to be pissing in your bed certainly not that's gross i can't imagine that advanced water sports sports people are pissing anywhere but their bathroom or outdoors right you're just nasty or some sort of room that they created in their house where the whole floor is tile and it's like a slaughterhouse it's all smooth water fountains we've redone the master closet it's just a big b room it's the pissery i've always wondered for like the amateur porn videos now i know that a lot of porn is shut in
Starting point is 02:07:50 hotels so i'm not thinking of those but a lot of amateur points when the guy's trying to like jerk out like a big cum shot i noticed that they don't give a fuck about just spraying down their bed sheets and stuff or their walls or whatever they'll just let loose now i'm so curious who these people houses do they meticulously clean up afterwards or are they just living in their own like cum soaked filth a lot of them are airbnbs as well like oh they they they'll do airbnbs a lot and then um a lot of them i think is just like they have a place that they lease for filming and and that's what the place just does they don't mind. I know exactly what you're talking about. They're not cleaning it up. They're just not cleaning it up.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Anywhere, you would definitely want to. It just goes away. It just goes away. It's like, what did Ricky say about burning trash? How it just floats up in the air and turns into fucking stars? Yeah. I don't know what fucking works.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Yeah. Who said it turns into yeah i don't know what fucking works that was always always funny yeah yeah it's like i i get that nice smoky smell in the bar that nice smoky smell we all love it smells like trash charlie i don't know enough about stars yeah what do you say the all of it burns up goes up into the clouds of smoke and turns into stars I don't know enough about stars to say you're wrong. It's a secret. What did he say? All of it burns up, goes up into the clouds of smoke, and turns into stars. That doesn't sound right, but I don't know enough about stars to dispute it. I need to catch up on this season. I think I'm two episodes in.
Starting point is 02:09:18 I started watching the new just released Sunny season. It's past time they ended the show so let me ask you this it's not funny anymore if you oh no open your mind to this concept do you think the show is worse or the show failed to get better because if you just release a show that's as good for 14 years in a row people are done with it i think it like did what a lot of shows did where like it had that natural kind of building crescendo you get to like seasons four five six like tremendous high quality
Starting point is 02:09:53 stuff and then it's almost like there's been a consistent tick down over the past five years especially like season 10 on has been markedly like not as good and i think most of it is like they're just running out of ideas they've done so many episodes they've done so much content they're all fucking hilarious people it's still probably my favorite show all time i don't think there's any show i've watched more every episode than it's always sunny but yeah they're just i don't know why i don't have to accept it but i my reaction to that was that the you know peaked in season five and then there was that steady tick down is that we're describing your enjoyment level of it, not the quality of the show. But I could be wrong.
Starting point is 02:10:32 Maybe the show got worse. Yeah. And I think a lot of it is because, like, they set the anchor point on what the show is and they set the expectations like season two and on with Danny DeVito and the silliness and the raunchiness and the uproarious insensitive comments they make because they're supposed to be shitty people. They just kind of miss that mark as the seasons get into the later ones. So they've become better people? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:56 They're definitely not as shitty of people as they were. They were reprehensible. What they did to Cricket is a crime. What they've done to Cricket is awful. it's really funny to watch the seasons go on because like that that actor now every time he's on screen like as of like season five it's like all right well now every time you're on screen we have to put on this prosthetic dog vagina on your neck to simulate that cut you know when when he made a joke about how like dogs were trying to fuck his neck wound because it looked like a dog pussy but yeah they it used to be a lot more silly um and i think you're you're
Starting point is 02:11:30 definitely right in some way that i'm holding it to a like the standard of its peak now and it's kind of dwindling season or you've expected that bell curve not to have a peak in the center that just to go up all that because i i do this to youtube channels a lot like i i watch a guy i think he's great and then a couple years later it's like well at this point i could write his script for him and you know it just kind of get worse no he didn't get worse he's the same guy yeah for some stuff that's definitely true uh for sunny it's not like it's definitely worse like i know all my friends who are big sunny fans like agree with me of like yeah that's just it's not like it's definitely worse like i know all my friends who are big sunny fans like agree with me of like yeah that's just it's not terrible like it's not like unwatchable it's
Starting point is 02:12:10 just not like i was watching like an episode of the new season with my wife just last night and she was like this doesn't feel like sunny like like all the characters are so wildly different honestly like mac being as jacked and like tan as he is, it's not as funny. How's that held up? As a joke, it's kind of like been drilled into the ground as a gay man. He still looks
Starting point is 02:12:36 tremendous. Yeah, he looks very good. He's jacked and it is good of him that he like worked his clear obsession with fitness and being jacked into the show. Like a perfect excuse to stay fit. But yeah, they're on their last leg. I can't imagine they're going to do many more seasons.
Starting point is 02:12:53 Is there a do you think there's a type of episode or thing to look for when a comedy show is like exhausted its options and kind of going downhill? comedy show is like exhausted its options and kind of going downhill so what i'm thinking of for a comparison is this has happened to so many drama type shows where you're three or four seasons and five seasons and it's you know it's kind of the same old ton of treasure and then you get the episode that comes where somebody dies not anybody really important somebody kind of important they kill somebody they either commit suicide like in house or i think in bird notice like a guy's brother got killed there's always like that death and it's like oh we ran out of ideas now we're trying to tap the uh the whatever little emotional reservoir we have left before we get to the finale do you
Starting point is 02:13:37 think there's like a similar type of episode in like a comedy where you like oh we're seeing these episodes now they must be out of shit to do. I have an answer. In a family-based comedy, like the Cosby Show or Growing Pains or something, they adopt a new kid. If they adopt a new kid, because now that adorable five-year-old is 12, bring in a new five-year-old. And when they do that, it's usually a sign that it's not good anymore. Yeah, I mean, I think a comedy show, like a very well-known example is The Simpsons where there was like you know obviously every show they're transitioning
Starting point is 02:14:10 writers in and out but there's usually like the core there was like some like there's a whole documentary on on youtube of a guy like breaking down like why the simpsons got bad and he's like it all started like season 10 with like a writer change or something. And they took Homer from like being the character, you know, probably started before season 10. I don't recall. And they make him like so stupid, like he can't read anymore. He's like retarded. Like they took what Homer was, which is like, you know, everybody knows who Homer Simpson is. And they push it so far to the edge that they
Starting point is 02:14:47 that it's no longer like endearing like now homer's like like mean-spirited and retarded almost like he's not this guy who's like got a good heart for the most part but he's kind of a little simple the simpsons has a good one with that um what you just said described um to me and i had i didn't watch any of the seasons by season two but rick and morty that absolutely happened with the um have you seen any of these this show yeah yeah i think i've seen most of the new season yeah so jerry the father maybe this changed in later season but jerry the father in season one it's exactly what you said like yeah he's a goof and he messes up but like he loves his family they have a whole episode where they go to pluto or whatever like that that's really important to him and his relationship with his son and
Starting point is 02:15:24 not being as smart as Rick, but still being a special dad in his own way. And what are you telling him about? And then in season two, he's just like this goofball, dipshit, idiot, dumb fuck with no redeeming qualities. And it's like, just die. Like, leave already. You're so horrible and worthless. He's so not funny in that show. Because I feel like
Starting point is 02:15:39 this is something that TV does to white men because it's totally okay to shit all the fuck over them. It could be Homer Simpson. It could be King of Queens. It could be Jerry. If there is a white male father, I guess male father,
Starting point is 02:15:54 um, I can, there's a really good chance that guy's going to be a fucking dipshit before this show is finished. I mean, yeah, that is, you can see the same thing in commercials where it's like i mean
Starting point is 02:16:06 obviously commercials do that because the primary audience for every commercial is a woman they're the chief purchasers in any home and so like they're never going to have a swiffer commercial where like a put together dad like offers a solution to a frazzled and out of her league mother like it's always the other way because that's like the target they're going for. But I know what you're saying. Yeah, I on a related note, and maybe this is good for society, but you can almost hardly find a bad guy of color
Starting point is 02:16:34 in Hollywood anymore. It's there was definitely a bit of an overcorrection. I would say I could definitely see like the cringe in like the 80s, 90s, where every bad guy is either like russian or middle eastern like at some point it's kind of like all igors and ivans yeah i get it all right there another one of me on screen is a fucking terrorist okay that's cool i can definitely see it but i think the worst over correction i think it could be seen on both
Starting point is 02:16:57 ends it's not even that like white people tend to be bad or whatever it's that you actually lose a lot in um in in a movie when the main character isn't allowed to struggle because you're worried about showing a minority doing bad at something my a really good example is i don't know if you guys get triggered for superhero movies that captain marvel movie or like the star wars movies with the one girl um or woman i guess right where yeah where the the character is never, ever shown having a substantial failure. And it feels like the reason why is because they're really worried. Like, well, we show a woman failing.
Starting point is 02:17:29 She looks weak. But then there is no like you don't ever get that hero's arc. And there's no character development. Yeah. And they're just like really strong and they get stronger and they're really strong. And they beat up everything and they do everything the whole way through. And it's like it's so weird that in my childhood, I had really good role models in uh sigourney weaver and alien it's amazing um kiddo beatrice whatever and kill bill amazing you get these really good female characters that struggle and they overcome and they kick ass and that's like what the male
Starting point is 02:17:54 characters do and the female characters do that and then these days you get these women characters that are like unstoppable from day one and it's like okay and there's nothing at stake if the protagonist of any movie is unstoppable it's like oh so there's nothing at stake if the protagonist of any movie is unstoppable it's like oh so you've got an answer for everything well there's no tension yeah so yeah i haven't seen those uh those marvel movies you were talking about but i saw captain marvel i liked it more than most people most people really didn't like it well not i can't say that it was super successful movie but a lot of people had criticisms of it and i didn't think it was as girl powery as everyone made it out to be but i do think destiny had a pretty good point she went from good to really good to great it's like well
Starting point is 02:18:37 that's kind of like the movie opens with her getting captured on an alien ship and she breaks out of everything all on her own and destroys everything and break and does everything and at every point in the movie i don't know if she ever needs help from anybody she's like just constantly blowing everything up showing up awesome doesn't she lose fights and she's psychologically manipulated by that guy to like not use her powers and she eventually sort of breaks through or breaks free from his suggestions. I don't think she ever loses a fight ever. All I remember, well, I remember the movie.
Starting point is 02:19:10 I watched the movie. But like I – Most are some ties. Like her training partner, dude. Okay. Some of the training flashbacks. Yes. She did. No.
Starting point is 02:19:20 Actually, even those were barely losses because I think there were parts where she was going to win but then the guy's like you're not being responsible with your power or some shit yeah yeah yeah yeah so that so they were she lost but only because she didn't realize her true inner strength she always had the whole time and it's like uh you're right yeah and then um didn't she have some like stress period where she played little league baseball and it turns out she like hits a home run do am i remembering this right probably yeah where she played Little League Baseball and it turns out she like hits a home run. Am I remembering this right? Probably yeah where she was always like oh look you've always been special you know.
Starting point is 02:19:50 This sounds terrible. There have to be stakes for any movie to be worthwhile. The Star Wars one was especially like watching the first one where she has access to like every I don't know if you guys see Star Wars a lot but I've seen the movies at least. I don't know any sense of she has access to like every i don't know if you guys see star wars a lot but i've seen the movies at least i don't know any sense of she has access to like
Starting point is 02:20:06 every single special jedi power immediately just immediately right off the bat with no anything and it's like you didn't have to like train the way uh luke did with the other she like picks up a lightsaber and she's just good at it and she like is that wouldn't make sense yeah crazy powerful like force techniques that have never been seen in the whole show like at the very beginning like as soon as she runs into a guy that's been trading like his whole life or whatever and it's like okay well isn't the whole lore of star wars that like the most powerful jedi ever is luke skywalker right i think it was anakin i'm not sure anakin okay because then it wouldn't make sense for her to march in and be able to do a bunch of stuff that like uh vader and uh-huh the other ones didn't i'm not close to march in and be able to do a bunch of stuff that like, uh, Vader and the other ones didn't,
Starting point is 02:20:45 I'm not close to star Wars at all. I haven't seen any of the new. Yeah. I mean, I'm scared. I get all his cannon. I don't, I'd always heard that Anakin was like a born of the forest,
Starting point is 02:20:52 like Virgin Mary. He was like the special, super powerful baby that becomes like Anakin. And then you might be right. It, it, it would make more sense for the most powerful person ever to be on the bad guy side.
Starting point is 02:21:03 You know, that keeps it interesting the funniest part for the last three movies was they did one director for the first one a different one for the second one and they brought back the first writer for the third one and it's very obvious because in the uh in the first movie there's a huge deal made about who's who ray's and uh parents were because you don't know it's a really important thing and then in the second movie they're like it doesn't matter anybody can have the force and it's actually like it's so cool and like at the end there's like some little boy stands in front it's like anybody can be a jedi
Starting point is 02:21:32 and then in the third movie like no actually her dad was like palpatine the dark emperor and it's actually actually the most important blow in all time because i guess the directors had a differing vision on how they should actually uh end the movie or what the plot line was or whatever which is i've always disliked that. Kyle's going to help me with this word. But in Jedis, originally, like in the first ones, it seemed like it was a kind of kung fu that you could study and learn and you just blindfoldedly get shot by lasers and stuff and develop your force, kind of.
Starting point is 02:22:01 And then later there became a, I'm going to slaughter the word for an assist. There was like a mitochondria level. Midichlorian is what they call it yeah all right so there's a midichlorian level in your blood that determines how pure successful strong a jedi you are and here i am as a child like oh well fuck i guess my midichlorian level is probably zero. So much for my powers. That whole thing. I don't even like talking about Star Wars
Starting point is 02:22:31 because it was just like, it was made to be another one of those bullshit movies, those sci-fi movies. And somehow George Lucas stumbled upon a few things that worked really well. The CGI and the models being the main thing. They just blew everybody away for back then. Yeah, but the acting is atrocious.
Starting point is 02:22:50 The story is okay at best and it meanders. The writing's awful. But the idea of fucking space ninjas is badass. Space wizards is what they are. But then going back and always adding more to it and tinkering with this and that. Space Cowboys kind of...
Starting point is 02:23:06 They're blasters. They're more like space monks, right? If anything... The Jedis, but they don't... Yeah, the Jedis. I agree. I guess Han Solo's not a monk. Han Solo's a space cowboy. Also not a Jedi.
Starting point is 02:23:22 I know, but he's in Star Wars. yeah yeah that's fair i mean there's lots of people in star wars but the jedi are what are cool like i don't get everybody's aliens like han solo is just like white guy with a smart mouth who's like a rogue you know like they cop they copy pasted that one i i just hate star wars i just don't like anything about it they just never made a good fucking movie and they never will but the animated clone wars are excellent um i uh but but everything else is fucking garbage and it's not it's not a good story and they're hard to watch the cgi is not even that fucking good anymore and um i i hate it and i hope that they stop i hope something awful happens i hope someone i hope someone like
Starting point is 02:24:02 raise uses like wears like a yoda mask and does something horrific like someone commits a terrorist attack you said that sir and that is uncalled for all right right right before christmas calling for terrorism i i just don't know where you draw the line sir um but but if someone did something you know something that was pointed out to me active with the with the star wars mask on we could we could put an end to this once and for all i remember reading uh it was either a review or a video or whatever somebody pointed this out and i've never been able to get this out of my mind it is so absolutely true the star wars world at least in the in the movies the star wars universe is really. Even though it's like a universe full of stuff,
Starting point is 02:24:46 there's not really anything going on. You ever actually really care about that much. And I compare this to another childhood favorite of mine. It's Harry Potter. I love the Harry Potter world. I always feel like there are a million other things, a million other stories, tons of stuff going on. Like you could make like 50 million movies or books
Starting point is 02:25:00 that are just off of like the stuff in the Harry Potter world. The Star Wars universe though seemed so dead and empty in the movies i know we went to a couple of planets like i didn't care about any of the aliens it seemed like there were like four jedis in the history of the existence and like three planets they've got four jedi three fucking planets and enough flying cars to make me vomit i don't care about your fucking toys you hack it's not good it's not good but and that hayden christian's guy couldn't fucking act i don't know i love it like i'm i'm huge mandalorian fan i've got mandalorian fucking merchandise and shit memorabilia whatever the fuck but like and i'm gonna be down for boba
Starting point is 02:25:35 fett too i think that the direction they've taken that with the semi-realism and just so much less deus ex machina wizardry like it's just better when you've got characters that are that powerful it's hard to make stories for them you have to do things like nerfing by exclusion which is where like oh yeah superman's cousin's birthday is today so we gotta we gotta roll up our sleeves and handle this one ourselves you know you're always having to remove the jedi from the equation or find a match for him which is difficult to do i really I really loved the last scene in the most recent scene of Mandalorian, though. I don't know how many times I've rewatched it with different
Starting point is 02:26:09 scores. Somebody was like, oh, it's so much better if you use Luke Skywalker's theme from the original trilogy. Oh, when he goes to the ship or whatever. Yeah, so I'm like, alright, let's watch it with that. It's better. It's better. How are you doing that? You just played it and synced it up? No, someone edited it.
Starting point is 02:26:25 Oh, there's nerds out there to do this kind of work. I haven't watched it. I haven't rewatched the last scene in the Mandalorian. I bet there's a new episode coming out before too long. It seems like it's been ages. Boba will be the first thing. I think I saw that advertised pretty heavily. Like,
Starting point is 02:26:37 you know, the, the spin off the Boba Fett spinoff. And I'm down for that. I hope that, um, I don't know who's behind the boba fett stuff i hope that john fabbro has something to do to do with it and still kind of gritty and fun and lighthearted at times
Starting point is 02:26:52 as well would i like bill burbian in there usually i hate when they stick someone who's not like if you'd stuck a comedian into something else that i loved i'd have been so upset but somehow bill burr works. Because The Mandalorian is so sort of like, I don't know. It's distracting how he's from Space Boston. He's from Space Boston! To me? From the South-y side of the galaxy.
Starting point is 02:27:20 I don't think Bill Burr does his stand-up in The Mandalorian. I kind of like that he's a genuine actor who does a fine job. I don't really notice him as Bill Burr does his stand-up in The Mandalorian. I kind of like that he's a genuine actor who does a fine job. I don't really notice him as Bill Burr. I think he's a decent actor. He's got this one note he plays very well, and that's exasperation. Bill Burr does exasperation very well. It's like, what do you mean? You're going to make me do this, and then you're going to make me do that?
Starting point is 02:27:44 Ah, the humanity! And like on and on and it's really funny. Like you can do that bit over and over. They did it in The Mandalorian, I think. Like maybe when they're like driving the car to the place. I was gonna say, it's something about a mask on, mask off. Maybe he was frustrated. Yeah, he has fun. But then like you actually got a little bit of acting out of him when he like
Starting point is 02:27:59 kills the like rebel or the the Imperial General or whatever the fuck. I don't know mandalorian sick clone wars is sick um i could probably watch watch that very first movie again but like you know the one from the 70s where like luke first starts off and i probably probably better i can probably watch that one um return of the jedi sucks. That's the last one, right? You're right. You guys like Pokemon stuff, maybe Taylor more, because you were at the right age
Starting point is 02:28:32 when that hit. When Return of the Jedi's hit, I was down for fucking stuffed animal Star Wars a little bit. No, I can feel you. That was cool for then. That was...
Starting point is 02:28:44 It was pretty fucking cool a little bit no i can tell you no like that was cool for then like that was i mean like it was pretty fucking cool like when i was a kid and i watched it for the first time but it just none of that holds up for me anymore and maybe it's not supposed to like maybe that's what we what like people like me need to wake up to is that it is a kid's movie it's it appeals to adults but it's primarily a kid's movie we We need more rated R sci-fi stuff that's not just like fucking horror. You know what I just watched was Pandorum. That's one of my favorite R-rated sci-fi movies.
Starting point is 02:29:11 Yeah, that's a good one. So good. Yeah, Ben Foster and a couple other actors. I can't think. Randy Quaid. You didn't just see it for the first time. I've seen it many times. Yeah, it's a favorite.
Starting point is 02:29:22 What are the good sci-fi rated R's? Event Horizon, Pandorum, obviously Alien Termin. Total Recall, that's R, right? Yeah, Total Recall kind of fits. Is it Philip K. Dick that wrote all that nonsense? He wrote the Blade Runner shit.
Starting point is 02:29:38 What is it? The Dream of Mechanical Sheep or something. I like sci-fi. guess i guess blade runners are that's that's r-rated sci-fi but it's been a long time since there's been anything good um what i don't want is another like pg-13 will smith yeah of any kind i'm done with that kind of sci-fi i think i like really gritty dark sci-fi sort of gothic uh stuff involved uh dark city if you've never seen that, that might be one for you to go to.
Starting point is 02:30:07 I've never heard of that. Yeah, not many people have. Don't look too much into it. I think there's a bit of a twist at the end. But it feels a little bit like The Matrix at times. Really good, though. Speaking of The Matrix, that came out. Anybody watch The Matrix?
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Starting point is 02:44:37 my loads have increased by like a thousand percent. It pales in comparison to any lean tissue gains that I may have made. Yeah. You're hooking up with a girl and you're four weeks into your stack your load stack she's gonna be blown away literally like she's gonna feel like she did the best job in the history of fucking but by the amount that you shoot out onto her that aspect is hilarious it's a good it's a confidence boost for them it's borderline a hysterectomy if you give a woman a cream pie.
Starting point is 02:45:08 Yeah. She gets a runny nose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's an up-come. I'm getting... Go ahead. You talk about god did you know go ahead you talk about the stream i was going to talk about fucking food well you've been streaming lately destiny you used to do a lot of politics talk are you still yeah i still do that's my bread and butter and then league of legends
Starting point is 02:45:36 god awful game but generally i feel like politics uh in the same way that baseball is just not as good without the yankees in it. Politics isn't as good without Trump in it. Thoughts? I mean, he definitely had that entertainment factor. I mean, he was a reality TV show star, right? Entertainment factor. And I don't know that he was always... Entertaining makes it sound more calculated and purposeful.
Starting point is 02:46:03 No, you can have a retarded kid that is doing some dumb shit over and over again and it's entertaining that sounded bad i shouldn't say that but you can have a there are if i be mindful of my audience there you can definitely have entertaining stuff where the person's not trying to be entertaining but they're very funny to love it i think trump on that pretty well we'll see i'm really interested to see how the next i want him back i want him back i want him to win i want joe biden to have look first of all when i say these things you should all know that i mean them from the bottom of my heart second of all that in no way do i think any of this is good
Starting point is 02:46:40 for me or the country i just think it'd be fucking funny i want trump to to go against joe biden again and like i said last i did this before the this last cycle i think my dream my monkey paw wish was that like joe biden have like a complete meltdown and like not have a senior moment but have a senior campaign where it slowly degenerated to the point where he literally shit his pants on a stage. And, and like it was, and there was no question that he, like,
Starting point is 02:47:11 he's like made a boom, boom. And like pointed at his pants. Like I, I wanted that level of meltdown and for Trump to be also be a complete train wreck with all sorts of stuff coming out. But because his opponent literally pooped himself, like he,
Starting point is 02:47:24 he just falls ass backwards into the presidency again i would love that to happen i don't know what happens to kamala harris during all of this i'm thinking i don't think i'm allowed to i think everybody i think around the world is wondering what the next uh presidential election cycle is going to look like yeah who do you see coming out of the primaries i don't i don't do any of that some people will like obsessively follow people through before i i just wait until the i think that's less interesting topic anyway the most interesting side to me shockingly is the incumbent side it's it's it's does does he come back and try to go again does kamala step in does she run or do they look for somebody else on the bench on the on the democrat
Starting point is 02:48:04 side like there are people there there are popular people there even if biden was dying i don't think you ever throw away your incumbent advantage they asked him they asked him if he was going to run and he was not like oh absolutely yeah 20 he was like well you know if i feel as good as i feel today then then uh yeah and they were like would you like to what if it's donald trump he's like why would i say no to that oh now you're real now you're getting me excited yeah yeah definitely came across as iffy but if you remember during the primary cycle i think or maybe it was after he won the primaries he said he wouldn't run again he was he actually
Starting point is 02:48:39 said that resolutely so it seems like he's going back on and it's like that's likely what he means and this doesn't seem like one of those things where like it's a big deal to do four more fucking years of this in another campaign like i bet he bows out and so like it's just just throw away that do i want to bet on whether he doesn't run again barring do i get to say barring any major health issue or no no no that's that's that that's what that's what edges of me in we're gonna be died he's obviously not gonna run again yeah that counts i win in that case No, that's what edges me in. We're going to be dives. He's obviously not going to run again.
Starting point is 02:49:07 Yeah, that counts. I win in that case. You know what? I'll do a friendly $100. Oh, God. Holy shit. That's my speech around here. We bet pennies here. I don't know if you were going to bring out the...
Starting point is 02:49:19 Because sometimes people are like, oh, $5,000. Yeah, I'll do $20. $20 to heal. Absolutely. Even $20 is four times higher than our standard we can absolutely do 20 that joe biden does not run for president okay i think that's the bet yeah i don't think he will and i'm really interested to see who they go to because like god bernie is ancient kamala is very unlikable i think um within certain groups that they really need
Starting point is 02:49:46 to bring along can i pause on that it almost doesn't matter what you think or what i think that the data is what it is she is unliked she's the most unpopular vice president since they started polling that i don't know when that pence was more popular so she's a very weak candidate yeah so and then you've got hillary of course there's there's so many bad answers to this Pence was more popular. She's a very weak candidate. Yeah. Then you've got Hillary, of course. There's so many bad answers to this question on the Democrat side. That's what's really interesting. I don't quite know who the good
Starting point is 02:50:14 answer is. I like Buttigieg, but the numbers are in. Not everybody does. Yeah, I think he has a real issue with African Americans. He comes off as an elitist, I think. You're're trying to get to the uh yeah absolutely they made a huge deal during oh wait i thought that was in response to me but it was something else sorry uh he made a face but i guess something happened in the background yeah i think i think the the democrats are definitely
Starting point is 02:50:36 aiming more center leaning um because that they have ran off in some cases in their messaging so far to the left that it's alienating a lot of different types of voters. And you're starting to see now where Hispanics are becoming less and less a guarantee for the Democratic Party and minorities in general that were like a sure Democrat vote. Even though nobody likes to talk about this, they're a lot more socially conservative than a lot of white people in the Democratic Party. And I think you have to be mindful of stuff like that because these votes that were surefire votes, the black vote still is the Hispanic vote absolutely not coming into this next election cycle before the
Starting point is 02:51:12 presidential one, which is scary. I, in my head, the Democratic Party has not distanced itself enough from the overweight 24 year old purple haired cunt who virtue signals and tells you that you're bad about everything and that to me is almost like the core of the party's brand you know some fat chick shaking her hand in the air saying you're racist you're white male you're this you're that and everyone's like fuck you like i didn't do anything wrong and you're acting like i'm a dick that's the democratic party that's their perception problem there's definitely a perception of too too much focus on social issues but worse than that worse than that which i would say is there although definitely like a youtube like 2016 we saw a lot of that
Starting point is 02:52:02 the two really big ones were a cab stuff and defund the police and the socialist rhetoric a lot of brown people coming from south american countries are not as hype on fucking socialism as you a fucking college student ucla is okay you've never had to fucking eat a rat okay when your whole family savings is right out paid a bill yeah liberal arts college student carry on yeah so the the socialism shit does not run well with a lot of immigrants coming from a lot of brown people coming from south america because or from anywhere that is socialist yeah yeah unless you're getting these 80 year old people that are you know reminiscent of the past or you know like eastern europe or parts of russia
Starting point is 02:52:39 sometimes but um yeah that's generally very well and then also believe it or not and i know it's hard because a lot of white people in line have never talked to a black person before or talked to a brown person before. They actually don't want a bunch of fucking crime in their neighborhoods. These people do call the police if shit goes wrong. Like they actually do like police in their neighborhoods when they feel like shit is fucked. And that ACAB messaging and shit did not play well. We've said ACAB twice, but I don't know what it means. Oh, like defund the police a
Starting point is 02:53:05 cab stands for all cops are bastards these very hard line anti-cop measures that we're trying to be passed in cities and then compare it when you pair the fact that like a lot of cities scaled back on police stuff and then the pandemic hit and then crime started to rise a lot of those policies 180 so hard and it looked so bad for that group of people that were all like get rid of the police defund the police abolish the police and yeah it just is a really bad look for the Democratic Party I think and
Starting point is 02:53:30 I feel like it hurts them more than the Republican I don't know about I don't like the all cops cops are bastards thing Taylor was explaining this to me the other day he was like cops are like Nazis not every Nazi was a bad guy there were some great nazis taylor says there were some wonderful who's your favorite nazi taylor you're saying gerbils right i i think i said too too many to choose i think that's how our conversation our real conversation went right yeah is uh is
Starting point is 02:54:02 the defund the police thing mainstream rhetoric now it did so this is this is what i always thought because i used to tell myself so much like this is online it's white twitter kids who the fuck cares blah blah blah i i said that for so long for so many years and i think back in 2016 it was in 2020 it absolutely was not that defund the police stuff that was like a front and center that was a huge there was a one lady in congress the phone call leaked and she was screaming because her constituents were calling in with fears about like they're going to get rid of the cops and people are trying to make everything socialist like actually and they're saying socialism stuff and um i do think that those messages went very very mainstream especially on the backs of all the blm protests everything too
Starting point is 02:54:42 and then democrats are also you're saying defund the police's mainstream yeah it absolutely was yeah i call bullshit no i like biden for example is the leader of the democratic party and his position is very clear correct it was a more moderate but like you got to look at like minnesota i think the state i think literally had it on their ballot to like abolish their police department. And it didn't win. So Minnesota had a failing idea. We cannot call that the mainstream of the democratic party. Well, I'm not saying that it's the mainstream, the democratic,
Starting point is 02:55:13 the politicians believe it. What I'm saying is that it was, it was pushed enough in social media and in activist circles that that became the perception that the democratic party wants to abolish. At least the majority of the politicians. Absolutely not because I did. And the people, the people in the democratic party wants to abolish at least the majority of the politicians absolutely not because i didn't and the people the people and the politicians don't want it but there is a loud minority that talks about this but that loud minority used to be only on twitter to where if i were to go in real life and ask a person like what do you think about
Starting point is 02:55:39 marxist leninism they'd be like i don't know the fuck you're talking about but nowadays if i go and i ask somebody like what do you think about defund the police like no the democrats want to get rid of the police i know they do i don't like that like it was making it into a lot of mainstream conversations off the backs of the vlm protests to me the democratic party has a perception problem where people associate them with defunding the police for example but they don't have a reality problem the reality is democrats are like me most of the time, you know, kind of in the middle, not looking to be stupid like that. Not overly woke, not any of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:12 The big problem that you're getting is that people in one of those and multiple problems. But one of the big problems you get is that people in very safe blue districts can afford to be very, very left leaning. But they have a national microphone. So people in Montana hear what AOC says, and they're like, oh, she speaks for the Democratic Party. No, she's never going to lose an election ever. You're agreeing with me. Yeah, I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 02:56:38 It's an unfortunate problem because when it comes to politics, perception is reality because people vote on perception and that's all that matters it's happening on both sides because of the gerrymandering you know the safe blue and the safe red districts the Republican politicians that I hear from are Matt Gates Madison Cawthorn Donald Trump I guess who's my girl
Starting point is 02:57:00 who's the blondie from Georgia the crazy one with the gun ads that's not a Lauren Boe bit she blows cars up and shit she's great who's the blondie from georgia the crazy one with the gun ads that's not oh lauren bobet she blows cars up and shit she's great who's the one uh magic the gathering every time i see your name marjorie taylor green that's her yeah she can't just she can't just take mtg magic has that that's not fair that is true that's that's my involvement in politics. Anyway, yeah, she's another one, MTG, that gets all the airtime. And she's a lunatic from the right.
Starting point is 02:57:40 And I'm sure there are a vast majority of people on the right are more sane and probably agree with me on a lot of stuff. Her, on the other hand, all she wants to do is call masks face diapers and say the vaccine is bullshit she's got memes too i mean like most most people are just normal people like you like she put a video of herself doing pull-ups saying this is my anti-covid vaccine but the thing is her form was terrible she was doing i saw that yeah she was doing the kipping pull-ups which yeah you can't you can't vote for that like if you're it i i hate so kipping pull-up it's its own crossfit is where i draw the fucking line yeah yeah why you should you should go dominate crossfit oh yeah it looks dangerous just go see how often i'd get injured if i did crossfit it'd be all the time yeah have you seen the way they
Starting point is 02:58:32 clean and jerk just throwing their spines to the wind like they know rigidity they're just as fast as they can and then run to the next i should try should try kipping pull. I don't know that I've ever done that, like, just sort of rotation style pull-up. What's it supposed to do, like, as a difference from regular pull-ups? I don't know. It's real fucking easy and it looks stupid. If you go to failure, I bet it's exhausting.
Starting point is 02:58:58 Everything is. Well, sure, like, you're still doing a ton of moving. Yeah, right? Like, you go to failure reading a book, you're gonna be exhausted that's what i did i go to failure of reading taylor thinks he's the retard on this show but low-key i'm taking a spot yeah i don't know what in the world those kipping pull-ups are supposed to work uh i don't i don't either i really like what i have back back see i'm sure it does something i'm like i'm just gonna we're verging dangerously
Starting point is 02:59:30 close to encroaching upon our let's let's encroach you know of information i would make fun of the crossfit people in the horrible form of the crazy shit they do but to be honest you walk into a gym and you watch anybody doing 85 of lips this looks fucking atrocious so i mean you know we can make fun of people that do the crossfit stuff which i think there's plenty to make fun of there but god damn if you look at people that step into a squat rack and barely quarter squat whatever the fuck they're holding or the the shaky out of control shit i watched um oh my god me and my fiance were at the gym um a couple months ago in la and this guy was shit first of all he had a um you know the hip thrust things right yeah yeah yeah he had a hip thrust thing on the on the bar for his high bar squats okay so he's already
Starting point is 03:00:10 gonna be squatting with bad form already in an empty area so he loads up a plate this guy steps back i don't think that's crazy this is the circular thing that i've heard it called a pussy pad that goes around the bar so your back neck doesn't yeah they can encourage people not to contract their back correctly and just rely on the comfort of the pad or at least that's what like a weight coach told me in high school yeah it's not it's not much but yeah this guy unracked uh 135 and he steps back and this guy looks like he's about to fall over and and i don't know what he was doing and he stands there for like 20 seconds breathing and then he re-racks it and he goes back and he one at a time he just starts
Starting point is 03:00:42 loading up the plates and this motherfucker's got three plates he's squatting 315 and i talked to malina i was like record this this dude's about to fucking kill himself phone out get a camera whatever it's gonna be a good fucking video um yeah and he unracks it he takes a step back and i would have to take out my pro tractor to measure how little his his actual knee bent before he did that and then step back up and he fucking re-racked it and he took a deep breath and then i was like okay yeah i've gone the other way i remember working out uh my wife and kids went somewhere like maybe they were visiting her parents or i don't know but uh i'm lifting all by myself and i'm doing squats and for whatever reason this day i sucked it was a weight i had lifted before but i got down into
Starting point is 03:01:26 my deep squat and i didn't have it to go up again and i just like i'm nose diving this weight is going to land on the back of my neck and decapitate me but i'm in a squat rack yeah so instead it gets caught and i'm like thank god for this and uh i i've been that guy yeah you end up like christopher reeves you take one of those yeah yeah you're lucky people squat without safeties and i'm not i feel like for a squat you can always just roll it off your back now that's what i always learned i would be going forward seems scary but rolling it off your back just like it falls it makes a noise that's how i learned to yeah just maybe if i didn't have the squat rack i'd make sure that was the failure method but because i do have it i can just try until i fail yeah i mean it is it's embarrassing failing in your own gym like the times i've failed in my home gym alone and the clang is so loud. I know my neighbors
Starting point is 03:02:26 know I just failed. It's in a basement too. It travels through the earth. Yeah. I think last week I failed a bench press. And mind you, I'm not all that. I failed the 11th rep or something.
Starting point is 03:02:41 I thought maybe I had one more than I did. But it's great i'm in the squat rack it just catches it i'm going up and then uh i can just press it you know i just get back under it i'm gonna uh get a bunch of my uh weight stuff from my dad's house and put in my garage like i've got like basic stuff like squat bench press and stuff and i think i'm gonna um like since i can do that at home like spend like turn some of my exercises into really really really high volume stuff like maybe like i don't know 20 20 rep sets stuff like that like three by 20 uh like five by five by 20
Starting point is 03:03:20 you know what you might consider before you do it is uh buying rubber mats for the floor i heard that horse stall um mats are good for that and cheaper than you need to uh like let those settle for a bit because uh like a lot of people say you need to like buy them and then let them sit outside for like a month or so so that a lot of that smell goes away because if you place them like right away that rubbery smell apparently is un unbearably bad the reason i bought gym mats even though it costs a little more my whole room was like 700 it wasn't like super expensive but uh is that reason they don't continue to leak that rubber old tire smell oh okay yeah but i mean it's made for horses so you can do whatever you want with it you can fuck on it you can get fucked on it you can you can do
Starting point is 03:04:12 whatever i want on all surfaces i'm an adult i'm a big boy big boys do what they want yeah see me on hardwood dude every every so often like being an adult just rules where you're like oh you know it would be cool to have this and then you're like oh i'm a grown-up i can just buy it and it's just here it's wonderful you know what I take offense to kind of? I see it on Reddit. They'll be like, you know what?
Starting point is 03:04:50 Now that I'm 24, I've realized that no adults know what they're doing. Everyone's out here confused with no game plan, with no concept of how to succeed in life. I'm like, what the fuck? That's not true. to succeed in life i'm like what the fuck that's not true i absolutely had like a career and aspiration a work towards a program a degree i was chasing or whatever like this idea that everyone is bumbling around blindfolded through life as an adult having no idea how to handle things you don't have your shit together and you've normalized it get your shit together i was gonna say i actually i think that it's kind of true,
Starting point is 03:05:26 but that advice, because that's true. One of the most attractive things that you can do as a guy for a girl is if you're a guy that has his shit together, it's actually like, it puts you so far ahead. And I don't mean have your shit together. Like you're making a ton of money, but I just mean like your apartment is well put together. You have more than just like a chair on your computer desk.
Starting point is 03:05:43 You can do the dishes, you wash your clothes, you fold them and fold them and put them like as long as you have like the basics down you're actually ahead of like 85 of the field it's unreal how many people like live as glorified children or just children i guess yeah just children like that way have have piles of laundry or all right i'll be talking about my. I was about to say have health insurance and I'm like, don't say it. Let's not get too crazy there. I can have health insurance or an audio radio.
Starting point is 03:06:12 This is personal. This is an intervention. This is entirely inappropriate. Actually, you don't have to answer this. This might be too personal, Woody, but what do you pay about for health insurance for your family have you ever given a range grand a year something like that 27 grand a year jesus yeah yeah yeah i've got a i know a guy family four and it's like
Starting point is 03:06:33 two three thousand dollars a month or whatever it's like jesus christ yeah that sucks that's a huge car that's a new house in some places no joke yeah that sucks it's a new house in some places. No joke. Yeah, that sucks. It's a new house in almost all places. It's a $2,000 a month mortgage. Oh, all right. $250,000 mortgage, yeah? Yeah, it's a two grand mortgage or a two grand car payment. You can have just about whatever you want as long as you don't get silly.
Starting point is 03:07:01 Who wants a two grand car payment? She is not being easy on your dishes back there. If I were you, I'd... Hey, Mel. Yeah? I love you. You can close the door. She said I can close the door. Okay, hold on.
Starting point is 03:07:14 And then I said, bitch. And then I said, bitch. No, she was being too rough with your wares. Your cutlery. I was worried about your cups. I was going to get chipped. I kind of like that code. Like, hey, Mel, I love you.
Starting point is 03:07:33 She absolutely knew what you said. Like, girl. We've been together for three. I'm sure you and your wife are, right? Wait. Yeah, I wonder what I would have said. Okay. Not just I love you but like I would have probably been more direct but also like super over the top nice like honey that's coming through on the mic you know something like that I wouldn't I would have said
Starting point is 03:07:58 like what did the dishes do to you and then she would laugh and we would she'd know this is supposed to be like your thing right isn't this supposed to be one of those core competencies i read about in the 1951 marriage manual what to expect as a man everything my when i first started dating jackie would iron my shirts i had a job that required a button-down shirt and jackie would iron them for me and her mom bought me a book about how to iron shirts and i read it and i learned and uh i still iron them pretty well the implications of ironing in the modern world like what the fuck could you write a whole book about with ironing i i didn't know like i for starters i always use the pointy side of the ironing board when you do like the sleeves and hang like the back over the ironing but you want to use the big square side it's far better everyone knew that but me okay 19 year old me was like this
Starting point is 03:09:00 is a good book or paper you're like sitting awake and Jackie's like you need to go to bed you have work no but I'm gonna find out how to iron underwear next chapter we couldn't go to school or church if we didn't have our shit ironed so we learned you're not gonna believe what I learned about polyester so what are the chores around your house that you guys hate and that you put
Starting point is 03:09:30 off because like for example like modern times like dishes like yeah modern day now like dishes cleaning the kitchen i don't mind that at all like i do that pretty much every day just to keep it spick and span i i will let it like go for a day sometimes just out of like like i because i cook and i do the dishes usually. I'll do that tomorrow and it might go a day. I really don't mind loading a fucking dishwasher. There's nothing to that. I hate mopping floors
Starting point is 03:09:55 though. I feel like that's the worst one because I'm never quite sure if I've gotten all that sticky fucking residue up. I get OCD about it so I end up mopping for three goddamn hours. And after a while, sticky floors don't seem so bad.
Starting point is 03:10:09 That's a good one. Mopping socks. Mopping socks. I have a weird dishes thing. I put the clean, the pull the clean dishes out and put them on the shelves, but not all of them. It's weird.
Starting point is 03:10:20 I'm like almost resentful of some of the bullshit that is in the clean I'm like what is this squishy thing is this a lid to a baby cup we don't even have baby that one stays there you can put that away I don't know where it goes all I would be doing is hiding it on you
Starting point is 03:10:39 so I empty like 95 98% and there'll be like one or two items left in the, in the clean dishes. She puts those away and then puts the dirties in. I also am the chief laundry pusher through her. That's the term we use where I load the, uh, the washer and the dryer and she's the folder.
Starting point is 03:10:57 Oh, that's a good deal. Yeah. Yeah. The folding takes a lot more time, especially the socks. If she's behind on the folding, I'll intentionally hit her with some comforters and towels and shit to make life easy.
Starting point is 03:11:10 Strategically loading the backfilling. Filling the workload to make it simpler. It's about volume. If I'm trying to get through this, and there's two ways. You can do all the socks and underwear and t-shirts, and that's a folding nightmare. Or you can hit her with a comforter.
Starting point is 03:11:28 Alright, baby. I can see you're struggling this is what we're getting i usually clean if there's a woman coming over so like how much i'm getting laid is directly proportional to how clean my house is and there are times where this bitch will sparkle but every now and then it's just like you know what fuck it i just i just don't care and it can get into a rough spot you get a rough spot but like i'll do those like clean the other night i told you guys i was like can we end the show right on time because i have to spend like i have 90 seconds to clean my house like after the show you can make an impact 90 seconds is tight but you have like six minutes you can make a material difference if you hustle for six minutes i imagine destiny the one you hate would it be vacuuming because you
Starting point is 03:12:12 used to work for that carpet cleaning company right oh yeah i don't have a the one thing the best thing i learned about cleaning carpets was don't ever have fucking carpets what a god-awful fucking get a rug okay but otherwise fuck just fuck everything about carpets they get fucked when you roll chairs over them too much when you walk over them too much they suck to clean just everything about carpet sucks i hate how i suck all the sound out of a room and you don't get that nice echo yeah well listen that's why i ordered a rug okay all right i said i could do it in seven days and your fucking chiz guy whatever was screaming at me for setting up so okay here i am all right be fucking grateful that there's an echo instead of nothing at all so you fucking chiz guy i mean if you're looking for simplicity all hardwood is the way to go
Starting point is 03:13:02 it's comforting walking around on the carpet it's nice and soft yes i think carpets are going to make a comeback i don't know why hardwood floor is pot this house is hardwood everywhere so i'm talking as a hypocrite but carpets are nicer to live in and i get it destiny there's some unseen fucking skin flakes or whatever that exists in the carpet i don't care i don't care i'm very comfortable in a lot of dirt more than you might guess i like so yeah carpet barefoot i'll fucking lay around that when you get a brand new carpet i just want to lay on it it's it's like the floor is comfy and it's great it's fantastic as a kid i really I really thought shag carpeting was cool. It is cool.
Starting point is 03:13:46 You were right. I would run my fingers through it like a dog's fur. I thought that cool adults had shag carpets and waterbeds. They did. You're right. Whatever happened to waterbeds, man? Those things got popular and unpopular for a very narrow point in time. We figured out that they're terrible.
Starting point is 03:14:01 I don't have but want. I don't know if Kyle has. Someone in my life has this, the heating and cooling beds. There's like a little sort of mini split next to the bed and you can control the temperature of your bed. It's always amazing. That sounds incredible.
Starting point is 03:14:17 Get it. Nice. I've looked at it a few times. I think the King size one is like $1,300 or something like that. And they can be, I'm sorry. Yeah. I just haven't wanted to risk $1,300 or something like that. They could be... I'm sorry. Yeah, I just haven't wanted to risk $1,300 on something I might not like, but everybody raves about them. Dude, that's not that bad for a mattress.
Starting point is 03:14:31 That's like the cheap version. No, see, Taylor, that is a like the equivalent of like a feather cover for your thing. Like it will turn your bed for $1,400, but if you get like the mattress sort of built into it grand version it's much more 2500 five grand something like that like it
Starting point is 03:14:51 it's pretty expensive that better be incredible for five grand but i could see like i could see splurging on like a really really good mattress you spend like a third of your life on it and how many times do you wake up like i need the covers on me to sleep i need to be protected from demons and devils you know obviously and so like even if it's very hot i at least like need like part of the cover on me that would never be a problem if i had an ac mat in the winter i use a weighted blanket now i don't know if you guys have had one and some people hate them some people feel trapped there's this like almost like a suction type thing that happens over your legs and your feet where
Starting point is 03:15:31 you don't build the tent that you might be used to uh so some people don't like it me when i got my weighted blanket and it goes by your own size so i have the biggest heaviest one um i was i liked it so much so much this might be like my fucking autism coming through i was like what do you finally got a thunder blanket thank god i got this weighted blanket and it was like oh my god this is the like this is real life i get to keep this it was like when you get a six-year-old a dog and and they're like oh is it is it really mine we don't have to give it back it was i like my weighted blanket so much but i can really only use it in the winter because it's warm yeah they're unbelievable my grandma got me one like a christmas or two ago and i i used it once or twice and it was it was fine but it is un unbearably hot so i can't imagine it being an
Starting point is 03:16:35 all-round all-year-round thing i'll open the window and uh like knitted blanket like like like one of those gigantic ones like my grandmother one of them anyway the the the shitty one not the good one she would make these enormous fucking quilts that she would make and like give them to us like we gave a fuck like i got a fat bitch what do you think i'm shivering every night till you came along and and those things like when you fold them up they weigh like 30 fucking pounds they're so goddamn heavy and i'm just like do we have to keep this? Is this going to ruin every closet I have for the rest of my life?
Starting point is 03:17:09 Can't we throw this away or give it to someone who needs it or throw it away? Keep them for some reason. I don't want that fucking blanket that old lady made. I'm the opposite. My mother made quilts. Well-crafted. My mother is a quilter. She doesn't quilt anymore.
Starting point is 03:17:24 But my perception of time as a kid is obviously going to be a little fucked up. mother made well crafted my mother was is a quilter she doesn't quilt anymore but um my perception time as a kid is obviously going to be a little fucked up but i remember it taking forever for her to make a quilt like four years or something like that oh that's oh that's a i think i think those are the thing i'm talking about is like um it's a crochet almost like yeah no this is a quilt where she would buy like i'm making it up but i'll say like 26 different fabrics and then put together this pattern and it was really well done she did like yeah level quilting yeah this ain't a white trash blanket this is that's what i was talking about she was in a quilting club and sometimes people would come over and they'd quilt together on this masterpiece that she built
Starting point is 03:18:06 and I loved it. I wore out that blanket to wear. The fabric went thin and it wasn't a blanket anymore. You remember that Dolly Parton song, The Coat of Many Colors? Yeah. It's a sad song. It makes me cry. Why do you listen to it?
Starting point is 03:18:22 I like to cry sometimes. The same reason people take a uh salvia or whatever right it's like the same reason the same reason people like to take 750 milligrams of robitussin or whatever the fuck they call it robo tripping yes they do go i love when these things have silly names uh what were they talking about the other day candy flipping yeah oh when you do um mdma and ecstasy together or no mdma and lsd uh-huh do you know white wine in the sun this christmas song white wine in the sun never heard it that's one to make you cry oh i'll skip that doesn't
Starting point is 03:18:57 sound like a sad song sounds happy dude i listen to this song on christmas a lot. I don't know. So usually in music, I want music that uplifts me. But in entertainment, I'm impressed by music. I'm sorry, by entertainment that moves me. I've mentioned it many times. That Robert Redford movie about cheating. Indecent Proposal. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:19:22 Indecent Proposal. I left that movie feeling bad. I didn't like it, but I was impressed because it really made me feel something. Usually, you just soak in entertainment and you leave. But if it moves you, it did a thing.
Starting point is 03:19:37 This song, even though it's sad, it moves you. White Wine in the Sun. What are some movies that give you that same visceral feeling like off the top of my head like i can think of like three instances throughout the lord of the rings series where like as it happens i'm like oh like and the final battle scene in end game does it for me and i know superhero movies people are going to say it's shallow dude i watched it today today the last time i re-watched that scene was a few hours ago.
Starting point is 03:20:06 I love it. Captain America with the fucking hammer, and I'm into it. The scene that makes me feel a lot is the scene from Sling Blade when Carl and the little boy are sitting by the pond. It's a great scene. He's like, I love you, Carl. I love you too, boy. I kind of want to put my arm around you like put his arm around him and everything and it's so fucking sad it's so fucking sad
Starting point is 03:20:32 it's just like he just has told him that horrific story and they're bonding they both just shared like awful stories about their lives and then they're bonding over it it's real sad and that always makes me cry yeah that's a that's a great movie i want to watch it again the the funniest scene in that whole movie is like the end where he's like i'm gonna stab you with it in the head what you doing at lawnmower play carl i plan to kill you with it i ain't gonna kill you with it no my favorite scene is when the abusive boyfriend freaks the fuck out. He's like, I want all the cripples and faggots and
Starting point is 03:21:08 retards out of my house right now because there's a gay guy, a retarded guy, and a guy in a wheelchair in his house. They're all hanging out. He's just losing his shit. Borderline beating up the poor guy in the wheelchair, shoving him around in his chair against the wall and stuff. It's funny, though. It's so ridiculous. that's a good movie i love that movie sling blade it is
Starting point is 03:21:30 it's sad but we watched it in the uh discord like maybe six or eight months ago we did like a big group watch because so many of them hadn't seen it i cried then it's fucking sad yeah green mile i remember i haven't watched that movie in 10 years because it makes me so sad percy when percy fucks that rat up that mouse up that yeah like uh you know creole speaking guy just wanted to hang out with that was so sad yeah the black guy who is dead in real life now he did a great job and he's so sad large man mcblack was his name michael clark duncan no it's large man mcblack well large man mcblack was killed in that role yeah and he is a and like i didn't know that like you know the main guard who has like the white hair yeah he and michael clark duncan were the same height
Starting point is 03:22:25 so all those all those like uh clips of like michael clark duncan like towering over him it's like they did like lord of the ringsy style like angles which i thought was i always think that's neat like just little details like that that would be so important like did you realize this actor who looks like he's seven foot five was actually the same height as the other protagonist it's like no and i never would have guessed have you seen because they did it so well there's a behind the scenes part on lord of the rings where they're sitting at a table and they have that forced perspective table that they constructed for it yeah like there's uh there's gandalf sitting in the the forefront and there's frodo sitting like eight feet behind him.
Starting point is 03:23:11 And they both have to like look at a piece of tape on the wall as they're talking to make it seem like they're in the same plane. Really cool. Yeah, they did a great job. But then with the Hobbit somehow, they're like, we made everything neon and use low cameras. And they just did everything so poorly. Those movies don't exist. It was also Peter Jackson. I know. The amount of time that he had from
Starting point is 03:23:31 Lord of the Rings to Hobbit is night and day. He had years and years to prepare before they even began the first movie with Lord of the Rings. Years. And then The Hobbit, they were like, we're going to need three of these Hobbit films Monday or Sunday? I know it's a weekend.
Starting point is 03:23:47 He had to go. You were talking about years lead up for Lord of the Rings. They literally, for a year, built up the Shire and Hobbiton and all the all the armor. Isn't that crazy what kind of budget and timeline they had before?
Starting point is 03:24:03 I can't remember many new universes before Lord of the Rings. Now, universe is like a hip thing. If you're like, hey, I've got this thing. We're doing the Bobaverse or whatever. People might invest in it. Back then, it was a real risk. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:24:21 It rocks. I need to rewatch Lord of the Rings again. I love that movie so much. I've seen it a couple times. I wish I could remember exactly the text conversation I had that I shared with you a few weeks back where that girl had chosen to watch Lord of the Rings with her brother instead of me.
Starting point is 03:24:39 And she was asking me questions. And I was giving her this long-winded nerdy explanation and at the end of it i was like next time watch with somebody who knows what the fuck they're talking about instead of your redneck brother you'll know where the holofouts came from you said what you said was actually more charming it was like and this is an example of why you should have watched with me well i wanted to have more sex with her. But next time she comes over, make her watch it and pause it every 45
Starting point is 03:25:12 seconds and railroad her with the fun facts. I do pause when I watch them with people. Oh, man. That's how you get pussy is you want to watch a fantasy movie with a woman and make her feel dumb for not knowing all the minutiae you do i want to i want to recreate that have you seen that meme where they're like in a baseball game and it's like a guy and a girl and he's just like
Starting point is 03:25:33 he's clearly in like a position to tell her how it is like he's mansplaining the fuck out of like when in reality i bet it was like a i bet she was just like i i bet it was like i bet she was just like i bet it was innocent i bet he wasn't mansplaining baseball to her or whatever but it looks like yeah i wonder what the truth is yeah me too yeah but i know the picture you're talking about because he is like grabbing her by the back of the neck like doing that like statesman hand of like this is i gotta tell you how pitching works or whatever the fuck. Have you guys seen... Go ahead. Have any of you seen recently? There's the Nicolas Cage
Starting point is 03:26:10 movie, Pig. I have been big on Nicolas Cage recently. That's the one I haven't seen. I watched the one where he fights the animatronics. I like that. I like Mandy. And now he's got one that's coming out called... The Incredible Burden of Being Amazing or something crazy like that. like mandy and uh and now he's got one that's coming out called like the incredible burden of
Starting point is 03:26:26 being amazing or something crazy like that essentially yeah yeah where he plays himself um so that looks funny too yeah um i i'm so glad that he apparently has money troubles because it is just fueling a lot of indie film that that is that is really creative and fun to watch is uh is pig worth watching, Destiny? Absolutely. I think it is. Absolutely. It's a very interesting movie. Is that the one where his prized truffle pig gets kidnapped and he goes to rescue it? Kind of, yeah. It would have to be.
Starting point is 03:26:58 He's in two pig-centric movies now. That's Truffle Pig Rescue. That's Operation... No. He's been making a lot of wacky shit he made another one where he like uh like some guy straps bombs to him and makes him go somewhere to like rescue his daughter and some sort of action nonsense and then there was the color out of space uh like a like right after mandy with all the wacky special effects and yeah that mandy like i'm enjoying the more esoteric films he's making just kind of i love mandy mandy's one of my favorite movies now um we should have watched
Starting point is 03:27:31 mandy on acid next time i'm if i ever do acid again i'm gonna watch mandy on acid yeah give it a go it'd probably be good it's part of the movie though right like that's the whole premise isn't those bikers like some like crazy bad scary acid that turned them into monster people or like whatever the fuck they are that's a great movie acid is definitely a drug i could see wanting to try yeah i've never done it but my friends who do it and have done it all and a lot of these are the same guys who did like high doses of shrooms and they're like if you're gonna do a hallucinogen just skip the shroom go straight to lsd and yeah i trust them on that like apparently you're more apt to or based on what they said
Starting point is 03:28:17 they said they had a lot more like you know freaky or borderline freaky experiences on mushrooms than lsd mushroom is like a plant and it's like natural and people look at it and then lsd is like acid and it's got a crazy chemical name seems so much more scary lsd is so much easier and you're so much more in control than you're on mushrooms it seems like it would be the opposite but like the way that i've always heard it explained and i think it's totally app is that when you take mushrooms you are going to go wherever they send you and you don't have much control over that and if there's some dark shit that you want you're there you're absolutely there whereas for lsc you are the come up is way smoother um and you're so much more in control
Starting point is 03:28:59 without ending up in scary places in my opinion And I've heard that pretty ubiquitously through people that do both. I think LSD is a way more fun experience. Yeah, I mean, without telling the whole stupid story again, my experience taking a lot of mushrooms ended with me having a panic attack and passing out on the floor in a public place.
Starting point is 03:29:20 But with LSD, I had a great fucking time for nine goddamn hours just looking at shit. I've taken mushrooms and never admitted it. It was this year. I was on a motorcycle trip. I'm trying not to dox the people I was with. But I took one gram, which
Starting point is 03:29:36 apparently is a pretty small dose. And it was a really good time. Things were super funny. Things that aren't interesting were more interesting. Like it was smoking a campfire. It looked like it had purple edges or something. And it would,
Starting point is 03:29:54 but mostly I just really enjoyed my friend's company that, that it did that as an enhancer. And that was my experience. I wasn't out of it. I did make sure that i had all my shit together before it kicked in my tent was up my like clothes i changed my clothes the fire was started like you know i got all my shit done before it kicked in but um so all i had to do was sit in the camp chair enjoy the warmth keep the fire going and enjoy my friend and it was it
Starting point is 03:30:24 was actually pretty awesome it was a super good experience and one gram is mild like i said and i assume it goes by the size of you like any other drug so i don't think for psychedelics i don't know if it does okay because it's because it's like a it's like a blood or it's like a brain like neurotransmitter thing like i think it's like like alcohol is a body weight thing i think amphetamines are body weight things i think when it comes to like lsd or mushrooms or dmt i think that like i think the same amount of similar effects of people that's what i've heard i hope that's true because the small guy was being a real bitch about it yeah well i'm definitely out of my depth and i've never been
Starting point is 03:31:03 any other size but uh it was a it was like a super positive experience oh and by the way there was no downside on the other half like yeah with um alcohol for example you have a really good night filled with laughs and you wake up in the morning feeling like shit even if you're not hung over you're not sharp and good and happy yeah you're not where you want to be you're like i'm not at 100 and you know you've like either taken on a lot of calories or you you know beat the shit out of your liver a little bit like the crazy thing about psychedelics is two huge things one is um that they're relatively safe like that we're not even
Starting point is 03:31:40 relatively they're very safe probably even compared to most foods you eat they're pretty safe right you eat them you process them you have a fun time you're done the second thing though is oh my god it the entertainment to dollar ratio compared to traditional drugs is unreal when i did acid for the first time and i was like ten dollars for two tabs of acid and i'm having fun for 12 hours and i live in la if i want to go get drunk it's 15 dollars a mixed drink this shit is unbelievable with no downsides like that's like that was the craziest enemies how cheap these things are it's five it's five fucking dollars a hit and like i i mean 20
Starting point is 03:32:17 will send you to a to a real fun place for a long time all night i want to say this i was with subject matter experts and uh they call it set and setting i wish they called it mindset and setting because that's what they mean but um it's important that like you're having a good day and you're having a chill time and you're like wherever you are it's okay if you go times three on it. If you're pissed off and that's where you start your mushrooms, that's not a good time to do it. And then the setting, someplace safe, someplace happy. In my case, it was camping. And get your setting right.
Starting point is 03:32:59 Do a low dose, especially if you're new. I did a low dose that you might consider a pussy dose, and I really had a positive experience. Yeah, you can't take pussy dose people seriously, where they're like, oh, you don't have a huge problem with mushrooms like me. I ego dose my drugs, bro. That's why when I drink, Everclear, no chance. I want my stomach like lining, burning through.
Starting point is 03:33:26 Yeah. I didn't even get like that like feeling of euphoria you're talking about. I've only done mushrooms once also, and I don't know how much I took because it was my roommate freshman year of college who just gave me some off his desk. It was definitely a low dose. But like, I don't remember feeling like joy or anything like that. I just remember like sitting there in our dorm. It was like a Tuesday night or something. And like I was watching It's Always Sunny, like season two or something on the DVDs he had.
Starting point is 03:33:51 He introduced me to the show. And I just remember like sitting there and like the TV kind of breathing at me. Yeah. Like kind of moving towards me and pulsating. But like and I thought it was going to get more intense than that. No, it was really like, OK, colors. Maybe those are more vivid things. If i focus on something it starts to breathe i i took what he gave me i have no idea i didn't even know like how it was dosed or anything yeah
Starting point is 03:34:14 i i hadn't i took mushrooms before i had not smoked weed at that point in my life how did you take it like what i ate it like it was it tasted rough mine was on a tasted rough. Mine was on a... I think it was on a spoon and I chased it with water. So it was ground up to be almost dust. And I ate that off a spoon and then chased it with water. His wasn't even ground up to dust. It was almost like he would mince an onion that size of it. And I just ate it.
Starting point is 03:34:44 That's how I've had it didn't actually roll it he had a tool that would do that i started with whole mushrooms um and just you mean you muted okay well he started with whole mushrooms you know that much chopped them up with a knife and then just kind of like rolled them together in a somewhat ball that then starts like falling apart and growing, like doing that thing. Like when you, but when you put water on a straw paper,
Starting point is 03:35:10 does a, does acid taste like anything or do you not? So, so like I, I, I've only seen it on like the little tabs, little pieces of paper. Um,
Starting point is 03:35:20 but like, it's such a tiny piece of paper, like way smaller than you think there's yeah there's nothing in my world that is that small that i could compare it to that gives you that much if you look at it the first time it's it almost seems like you're getting like kind of pranked like you have a microscope not microsoft but very very very tiny square paper and then you put on your tongue and it almost square that's funny square centimeter maybe but i don't think so maybe less when i i didn't do it in high school i've never done it but it was described to me as Square centimeter, maybe. But I don't think so. Maybe less.
Starting point is 03:35:45 I didn't do it in high school. I've never done it. But it was described to me as the size of a postage stamp. Oh, no. Way smaller. If you have a postage stamp, we've got enough for the party. Postage stamp is like you've got 20 hits of LSD. I wonder if it changed or
Starting point is 03:36:01 maybe it's more pure now and it shrunk. There's a whole story with the production of LSD. I'm no expert, but I want to say that this guy at one point made 100 million fucking doses or something like that. He was the world
Starting point is 03:36:16 provider of LSD. For a long time. All the LSD in the 70s or something was his LSD or whatever the story is. But it's a tiny, tiny little piece of paper. It's hard to just get one because you're just like two people are pulling it off.
Starting point is 03:36:32 It's not like it's a... My fingernails aren't precise enough to carefully grab this thing. It's so small. How long is the come up? I know Destiny said it was smooth, but is it an hour after you take it i think i knew an hour in i knew an hour in and i was like i want more now and they're
Starting point is 03:36:51 like well let's wait a little more i'm like no let's go ahead and start with two now and then like every hour uh i added another one until i was out i think on lse i think you're peaking at around three hours and then you peak maybe for like 30 minutes and then you glide down based on your dosage. That would be like one tab about. Yeah, it was. But, but the only like crazy stuff I saw was like everything breathed, you know, it did that sort of pulsating thing and colors would sort of do this.
Starting point is 03:37:19 I don't know, inversion kaleidoscope thing where like the center of, of the color would revert to the the sort of shade that the uh perimeter was and and and that that would like revert back and forth if that makes sense like rosy cheeks on a painting like the edges of it were darker and then the center was darker and that would go back and forth if you stared at it the clouds were fucking moving so my tiny mushroom dose had nothing but positive and good vibes did your lsd dose do that did anyone ever kind of wish they
Starting point is 03:37:53 could get off this train uh one person seemed uncomfortable but almost like they were feigning discomfort to be funny which is probably why i was being so mean to them um because you saw through the ruse i guess it's like stop acting like you're the only one here doing something for the first time we're all trying something new and you're ruining it for everyone you're like fuck you piece of shit um but uh but i just felt like he was being like white girl with her first wine spritzer high and it was annoying but that that was probably just me being an asshole uh on and and like maybe uh maybe that was appropriate maybe it wasn't but fuck him for ruining my high but uh but yeah it was a good time I like LSD I like watching like uh would you do it by yourself oh yeah oh yeah like there's no fear there's no like oh I could do LSD and make a silly phone call or walk outside naked no no more
Starting point is 03:38:46 than you could do either of those things when you had three beers like see i wouldn't do mushrooms by myself now probably people would disagree with me and do but enhancing the good vibes of the people i was with was kind of what it did for me oh ideally, ideally I'm with people. Ideally I'm with a girl and we're having sex because I think sex on LSD would be the tops. But I would do it alone, I guess is what I'm saying. But I would prefer to be with friends or even family or anybody that you like that you can hang out and chat with
Starting point is 03:39:18 and shoot the shit and joke around and just generally laugh about how the desk over there moved a little. Did you see it? I saw it. Look at it. I'm going to I saw it. Look at it. I'm going to look away. You look at it. You tell me if it moves. Maybe it's my looking at it that caused it to move.
Starting point is 03:39:32 Exactly. I've heard of this. This has something to do with quantum entanglement. This is Schrodinger's table. This is the Jedi thing. Neil deGrasse Tyson told me about this. I don't even know if that's right or wrong who really enjoy acid
Starting point is 03:39:48 but like you never hear about them like taking too much like over like a week like sure they might trip too hard but I mean like if someone trips acid it's not like the next day they wake up and they're like I gotta get back in the zone and then they dose again it seems like a rarer experience I was told initially that like because of whatever it's doing to your brain
Starting point is 03:40:09 chemistry that like you need to wait a couple weeks to like reload before you do it again or it's going to be diminishing returns for sure and i do know that that guy from channel five you know the all gas no brakes guy who interviews the sturges and stuff he did a ton of uh acid as like a 13 year old and And I can't remember what the consequences were, but they're permanent and life changing. I can't remember what's wrong with him. He always like, he has some kind of
Starting point is 03:40:33 tinnitus or there's something wrong with him caused by the years of acid abuse as a child. Okay, well that's not good. There's something called HPPD which is hallucinogenic peripheral persistent disorder, which means you'll see shit in the corner of your eyes. Or you'll have like a, I don't know if this, some people have it naturally.
Starting point is 03:40:58 But if you look at a wall and it's dark, it's not actually dark. There's kind of like a white um like tv fog over everything like i'm staticky channel over everything naturally you can develop that i think that's terrible y'all don't all have that i do but i don't know if i have it from doing drugs if i always had it not always that kind of worries me but yeah so like if you're in a dark room and you look at something or even just a normal wall there's like kind of like a tv fuzz over everything, right? Well, yeah, I can't process walls. Y'all can? Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Is it just a solid color for you with no noise?
Starting point is 03:41:31 It's a lot of noise. I can't choose one color. It's mostly gray, but there's darker bits, and it's all random like clouds. Okay, well, I guess I've never actually thought about this. Yeah, there are bits. Close your eyes and tell me what you see. got like 20 more minutes uh blackness blackness now i'm picturing kyle naked all right all right yeah am i am i excited you're more excited than you've ever been
Starting point is 03:41:58 painfully so people's dilated ready to fuck our Do we lock eyes? Are we looking at each other? No, I'm looking inside your rented home. You don't know I'm there. Oh, no. Is this one of those, like, you've been living here for a while, or you're like an intruder tonight kind of scenarios? I'm plotting.
Starting point is 03:42:20 Oh, okay. You're just here to, like, get the lay of the land. I'm scoping out valuables. I'm waiting for you to take another tab so then I can come in Is it the valuables you want or is it something more? I want the most valuable, your anal virginity That's right Which I know you don't already have
Starting point is 03:42:36 but we can pretend Of course not, no This is all roleplay anyway That's so funny that Woody did mushrooms. I didn't expect that. Yeah, and he always leaves when we role play. He doesn't like it. It makes him uncomfortable.
Starting point is 03:42:52 It's like the whole point is to make people uncomfortable. He hates the daddy-son role play. I can't imagine why. I told him I'd be the daddy. And that doesn't sweeten the dill at all. Yeah. We set it up for him. Kyle and i were
Starting point is 03:43:05 going to be his two dads and he was going to come in and watch us fuck well whatever yeah oh yeah you're gonna take us both to the parent teacher conference yeah is it gonna be embarrassing for you do you remember what all your friends leading up to parent teacher conferences when you know you had been like not great in class dude My mom taught at the school and my dad worked you were fucked worked a thousand meters from the school They knew what was going on and I knew that they knew they let me know And they didn't get like on to you. Yes Yes Yes, there was I mean what what am I doing? Stop? I'm just being me.
Starting point is 03:43:46 Well, because I know you didn't really give a shit about school. Didn't try too hard. I mean, I made sure I got out. That was the goal. As long as we survive, that was the main thing. The idea of prospering never came to me. Were you a good student, Destiny, growing up or not really? growing up or not really um i just i'm just incredibly lucky um i was a horrible student but um i growing up it's very narrow sliver in history where video games got really popular um but they didn't have voice acting yet so i was very good at reading because i played a lot of role-playing games so i could read very quickly honestly i think that's like 90 of being good at school yeah so i was in like all the ap. I did some dual enrollment in my senior year. My GPA was, it survived.
Starting point is 03:44:27 I think I came out with like a 2.8 or whatever because of all the waiting and shit. But yeah, I just, I got lucky that I was just a really good reader from all the video game shit that I played. And then that kind of carried me through basically. Yeah, that's fortunate. Were you a misbehavior in school?
Starting point is 03:44:44 No, I was a super good kid i just i don't really play games and shit i didn't want to like the worst i'd get in trouble i went to an all boys private jesuit high school and the worst trouble i'd get is i'd try to skip mass because we'd have like church every tuesday or something and i'd go into the band room and hide in one of the practice rooms with a like a was it a ps2 or an n64 and i try to play games in there sometimes so i got caught i got in trouble that's a nice little hustle what what is the what is like the the core thing of jesuits that makes them different than like normal christians jesuits are the it's the teaching order of the catholic church and um they're just like
Starting point is 03:45:19 pretty chill they're like pretty like liberal they're not like hardcore fundamentalists okay so because i was kind of imagining like the hesedic uh jews like some sort of a scarier version yeah but i'm acidic or hardcore yeah i see them but i don't believe them the way that i would like phrase it is that like i'm very atheist today i'm not religious at all i would never well i'm not sending my child to a catholic grade school i think i would send him to a jesuit high school though it's a really good education people like that they care a lot about that shit like yeah a lot of the times like if you want the highest quality education you have to go with like a private school and along with that private school comes
Starting point is 03:45:54 some some religious nonsense a lot of the time but like if it was a choice like and i had a kid and i was like all right he can go to a dog shit public school or he can go to a school that's going to be way better. And he also has to learn about God. And it's like, you know, we can just keep an eye on him with the God stuff and make sure he doesn't go whole hog into like doing what I did as a kid, like like laying awake sleepless nights at the age of eight, horrified, having nightmares of like my grandparents burning in hell because they weren't good enough Christians.
Starting point is 03:46:28 And just get rid of that. Get rid of that angle. and it's all good i like the hell angle i think we need you know some consequences keep some line yeah but those are some intense consequences man yeah i guess god needs to fucking chill out he is he is quite disciplinarian yeah he's a fucking dick like he made all of us and he's gonna be mad that we didn't turn out the way you wanted did he like design oh i i was gonna ask you this if you saw the um i think i think i saw something on reddit the other day and it was images of angels as they were described in the bible the huge ball of like fur and then the thousand wings and the eye. Eyeballs. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:47:05 Yeah. That's why whenever somebody's like, oh, yeah. First of all, we don't become angels, bitch. We don't get halos. That's another creature that God made up all to his own. And like, we don't know what they fucking look like. But apparently they look like eyeballs wreathed in wings or some shit. That was terrifying.
Starting point is 03:47:23 Yeah. Yeah. God made sure to make all the angels really scary. Even scarier than the demons in some ways. Well, the demons are angels. They were. Yep. Fallen angels now.
Starting point is 03:47:35 I love made up things. Yeah. I like made up things too. It's like an even deeper world than Lord of the Rings. Yeah. I think it's more fun if you think about Christianity like it's Tolkien's second project. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:47:49 And that way the plot holes, you're like, well, he was an old man. Yeah. I mean, look, this God character used to be really hardcore. Now he's a bitch. Treat Hebrew like another one of Tolkien's languages he made up,
Starting point is 03:48:02 like the whole thing. You totally learned it then. Oh, yeah. I'd break out the Torah i thought if it was like the cimmerillion i mean i bet there were people like when the new testament was being written well i guess yeah there were definitely these people the jewish people they didn't like it like the pharisees and the sadducees but uh he if you're used to a god that's super intense telling you to like beat your slaves and subject women and everything and then he comes around and starts lightening up on all that big time it's probably natural to be like whoa whoa so all this shit we've been doing the shellfish the whole thing it's all been for nothing all of it fuck you we didn't do nothing
Starting point is 03:48:45 we did this because it matters I've never had an oyster have you heard about the Christianity quote the cosmic Jewish zombie thing I'm familiar with it Christianity the belief that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father
Starting point is 03:49:01 can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree i mean i'm gonna l ron Hubbard's starting to make a little sense, ain't he, boys? I'm jumping both feet into every religion the second I develop a serious disease. I'm waiting for combat. Just cover my bets.
Starting point is 03:49:34 What happens if I'm wrong? I look like an idiot. It's the same thing that happens if... Well, we just are wrong. We just are wrong. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's one of the flawed arguments that they presented to us in high school at my religious high school where they're like
Starting point is 03:49:49 like the some square where it's like they literally said like if you believe and it's real you go to heaven if you believe and it's not real what do you lose if you don't believe and you and it doesn't exist who cares if you don't believe and it does exist you're going to hell and it was like i don't remember the name of it it's called pascal's wager pascal's wager that's and like even at the time it's like this doesn't seem like a convincing way to like get us on board and this is how you'll live a failed threat yeah i all the all the threats in the religion just imagine a rock over your head for all... Come on.
Starting point is 03:50:27 The whole thing is nonsense. Yeah. And even if, like, heaven's real and we all go there, who's to say God doesn't change his mind 10 trillion years in and switch things up? He's never done that before. Yeah. Notoriously consistent, that God.
Starting point is 03:50:45 But... Do you think he'll want us to call him Yahweh or something? Will he have a name when we show up? Will he think it's weird we call him God? Muhammad? He'll be like, oh, God, it's you. He'll be like, hey, man. I think he'll ask us. Will Aaron call me God?
Starting point is 03:51:02 I'm going to call him Mr. Christ. Out of respect. Mr. Christ. I call him Jesus because we're so tight. Professor Christ. What if you get there and he's like basically an infant. He's just a chowdy child.
Starting point is 03:51:18 Remember that Twilight Zone? I would hate that. The little boy who's like the monster. That's a real good thing you did, Timmy. That's real good. It's a real good thing you did timmy that's real good yeah yeah it's a great twilight zone yeah but yeah i hopefully he's full-grown jesus i want not not not old i want like fresh off the cross jesus oh i prefer infant still jacked no i i like that infant jesus like from um that the will ferrell movie that they were talking about so like when we're playing, like sometimes you get all in and the other guy calls or whatever.
Starting point is 03:51:49 A little bit of money might be on the line. You want the cards to go your way. So my friend Fish, he starts praying for me in Arabic, presumably to Allah. Wouldn't make much sense to be used Arabic to talk to Jesus. And then at the same time, I pray to jesus like the infant jesus in the you know swaddled up in the manger and everything doesn't understand poker at all but but i pray to him and it works out like more than you think we've gotten some pretty good cards it can't hurt it literally can't the only way it could hurt is if you prayed to the wrong god and the right god
Starting point is 03:52:23 knew that and then he fucked your hand up as like recompense yeah yeah i don't think he's quite that petty to like in it he absolutely is he turned those lot's wife into salt he did but she did look she turned around and he told her not to you know so when you're right at all it isn't bad yeah the god of the old testament's kind of a bitch i mean i like the part right before that where a lot to hear of the story was offering his wives to pay his daughters to be raped by a mob of angry people in in place of these two strangers he just met yeah yeah trying to like settle things down by letting his daughters get raped two thumbs down and he and that's the
Starting point is 03:53:02 guy who got saved god i'd be how horrible was the rest of that does he do that anytime somebody causes like a ruckus in the neighborhood like calm down girls girls get out there and see if you do something about that fuck right he was just running on i'd just be outside lot's house just making trouble all the time wait watch you won't believe it. Here they come. Yeah, he strips them naked. He doesn't care. That's one of the worst stories.
Starting point is 03:53:36 Well, Job is the worst story of the Bible. Probably. What's the one when... I thought when Abrahamraham was gonna fucking sacrifice his son like like straight up stab his son for god based on i i saw the end of that one coming a mile away that that's some petty shit too like oh good luck uh having a conversation over dinner tonight yeah you don't have to kill him yeah you're good and then the dad are you for real there's got to be a family guy where that happens right and it's like he oh i'm sure there
Starting point is 03:54:07 probably is but it's like where this son is like the fuck like he he made him do that to see if he would actually go through with it but it's like he knew the whole time he would like why it's just an exercise in cruelty to carry it out a decent like he just wanted the the emotional torture to be inflicted upon abraham clearly because an all-knowing god would have known that abraham was going to do it or he could have just watched him as he like picked the knife out and sharpened the fucker up and like took his son to the altar or whatever i'm imagining an altar yeah yeah it was definitely an altar there and then at the last second he says just fucking with you let's cut that shit out go to this bush there's a ram in there tied up in
Starting point is 03:54:51 the bush and then he went and killed the ram you can't have a good day go by without murdering something does he like magic those rams into existence or did he did god like thief uh a ram from a a less obedient farmer. I think it's largely magic when he does stuff like that. Or maybe not, because he probably wouldn't want to kill a magically conjured animal. He'd probably want one with emotions, family. It would need to be one of his animals to get across the whole sacrificial thing, though, right? That would make more sense.
Starting point is 03:55:27 Because if you sacrifice somebody else's animal, that's no at all that's just theft and animal cruelty at least i'm told i mean all they like you read about like the jews when they were in their you know exodus period yeah it was all i believe it was all just fucking killing animals they were like starving and had to have manna fall from the heavens to feed them. But they were still expected to kill sheep all the time. Don't they call that the diaspora? Do I have that right? I don't. That's a vocabulary word for you.
Starting point is 03:55:55 Manna exists outside of Magic the Gathering? Oh yeah, it's real. Manna from heaven is when all of the Jews, they were traveling around the desert, 40 years in the desert, and 40 years is just like a number, 40 is a number used in the Bible to mean a very long time, not necessarily
Starting point is 03:56:11 a specific amount of time, but the only way that they got food, because they were in the desert, was the Lord would send pieces of bread from heaven to fall down on them. And, I mean, obviously, it only... It does make sense that it's a sequel of Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 03:56:28 Most likely it didn't even happen. Most likely it didn't happen? Magic bread. I would give it like 50-50 best. There's a chapter... I love that there's a chapter in the Bible called Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and we just accept it.
Starting point is 03:56:42 Like that's okay. Wait, what? Because that's what it was it was it was just food falling you don't know about the cloudy with a chance of meatballs movie and children's book that's very popular sylvia maybe huh sylvia platt is she the author i'm not sure yeah i i remember like i would get so hungry during church that like when they would teach us about manna i'd be like i imagined honey buns like and i thought like man a ton you didn't like honey buns i kind of white trash from being honest oh well i loved honey i always i always found them to be below me okay well fuck you then the The honey buns are good. They're a high quality gas station
Starting point is 03:57:25 snack. I'm more of a zebra cake kind of guy. Only the best. Yeah, pinky up, right? Your fucking zebra cakes. Couple ho-hos, you know? I can't rip you actually. The zebra cakes are better than honey buns. They're fucking good. Tasty cakes
Starting point is 03:57:41 are not national, but they're better than anything Hostess has. I like the raisin cream pies Anything with raisins There's like two types of people How do we feel about raisins here? I love raisins I like rice pudding because it has raisins in it I like oatmeal raisin cookies
Starting point is 03:57:59 You know what? Raisins are gross but I'm so jealous of you Because every time there were like kids Eating lunch or people getting a Halloween candy You were probably the kid that everybody gave their nasty fucking raisins to. I mean, look, I like raisins, but I want Snickers. I'm not a madman. I'm with Kyle. Yeah, no, raisins are a great addition to trail mix, cookies, rice pudding, chocolate.
Starting point is 03:58:21 Yeah, raisins are a great little variety. I like the yogurt ones, too. The little white ones that are covered with the yogurt. That shit's good. Anything raisins. I'm looking for consistency. It breaks up something that's otherwise homogeneous. I like raisins before they hate crime, when they're great.
Starting point is 03:58:37 Raisins are a decent snack. They're fine. They taste good. But when you bring a raisin into the dessert realm, it's just, it's lowering the quality. Do you remember the California raisins? I don't want raisins in a cookie. Yeah. You remember the little figures?
Starting point is 03:58:53 Yeah. You know what doesn't get enough attention? Craisins. Kind of racist. They weren't that racist. I can't remember what craisins taste like. Those are cranberry raisins. They take cranberries and shoot them with the same ray they shoot the grapes with to make raisins, and they make craisins taste like. Those are cranberry raisins. They take cranberries and shoot them with the same ray they shoot the grapes with to make raisins.
Starting point is 03:59:06 They make craisins. They're like a tangy raisin. Tangy raisins. They're kind of dark red. If you put raisins on peanut butter on celery, it's called ants on a log. If you put craisins with peanut butter, it's called fire ants on a log.
Starting point is 03:59:22 Oh! You're the risky diner. Want something a little more, you know, cosmopolitan in their mouth. Yeah, no raisins. They ruin cookies. They ruin desserts. True. They are a decent snack, but they are not.
Starting point is 03:59:39 They are. They cannot stand side by side by a chocolate chip. To even say so is ridiculous. They cannot stand side by side by a chocolate chip. To even say so is ridiculous. And the worst thing about raisins is sometimes they're disguised as chocolate chips. Where sometimes you get a cookie or a muffin or something like, oh, this is about to be awesome.
Starting point is 03:59:55 You take a bite of that and it's nasty. Oh my God, that just ruins your day. I like raisin bran. Anything with raisin. Oh man. Raisins are the best part of raisin bran. Yeah. They cover those like prisons yeah i like them i got a big like thing of raisins i put them in everything
Starting point is 04:00:10 that's shocking i didn't i haven't had a raisin in years they're great you're missing not bad good for digestion a little like simple carbs mix them with your cereal with your cream, with your cream of wheat, your cream of rice? All that nonsense? No, I just need a pound of soaps. I've heard bananas are going to have to get wiped out from the planet. Are you guys familiar with this? Nope, not. What?
Starting point is 04:00:32 That can't be true. I need them. Apparently, back in the day, I don't know when. I'm going to say 1860 because I vaguely remember that. Oh, my God. You're so off. There was a different kind of banana that was like the popular sort of like dominant banana and it was a little bit better i saw a guy on youtube taste one and he's like i think it's
Starting point is 04:00:52 better this is a better banana but i don't know if i'm just saying that because i'm primed to believe it's better i interpreted that as it might be a little better when we eat artificial banana flavor like some sort of banana flavored whatever, they are not modeling the current banana. They're modeling the old one. You've probably seen bananas of all sorts of shapes and sizes and varieties, blue ones, red ones, et cetera. The popular yellow one we have is actually the successor to the first banana. Bananas are made in a monoculture, which means every tree, every plant, etc. is just like the one next to it.
Starting point is 04:01:27 There's no variety in it. And when this virus, fungus, whatever it is that destroys crops went across, they developed a new banana, the one that you're used to. And it replaced all the bananas that were existing because it was resistant to this plague, I'll call it. Anyway, there's a new plague and it's knocking out the bananas that were existing because it was resistant to this plague, I'll call it. Anyway, there's a new plague and it's knocking out the bananas that you're used to. We're hoping the next bananas are an
Starting point is 04:01:51 upgrade, not a downgrade. I'm looking at the 10 types of bananas here and their names are all real dumb so I'm not going to go into it, but I know about the plantain. That was the only other banana I knew about. There's like 10 here. Clavendish is the one we're used to. Zach just posted something. Similar to humans,
Starting point is 04:02:08 bananas are facing a pandemic. Nearly all the bananas sold globally are just one kind called the clavendish, which is susceptible to a deadly fungus called Tropical Race 4 or Panama Disease. If not stopped, Tropical Race 4 could wipe out the
Starting point is 04:02:23 $25 billion banana industry. The way I heard it is it is going to wipe out the $25 billion. There's nothing that can stop it. There's no way we can prevent it. It's just on its way, and you can expect it in the next four or five years. What I interpreted, given that a $25 billion industry is pretty important, is they'll probably just replant with something new. These apple bananas that I'm looking at seem to be the sweeter of the bananas. I'm good with our yellow ones. This is devastating.
Starting point is 04:02:56 How would you feel if there was a tastier but red banana? I would switch to it. Yeah, if it tasted better, I would. I've never even heard of a red banana. We would hunt down it. Yeah, if it tasted better, I would. I've never even heard of a red banana. I've seen those balloons. And we would hunt down those yellow bananas, and we would exterminate them one by one. Infect them with Tropical Race 4.
Starting point is 04:03:12 You've got to... I can't do a Nazi's joke this closely. I'm sorry. I have a whole thing about purity. The purity of the bananas? Yeah. Okay, Blue Java. That looks like a tasty banana i'd like to try that's a cartoon banana that can't be real so the apple banana looks like our current bananas i
Starting point is 04:03:35 was really hoping it would look different like the blue java or the red banana it's shorter and fatter if people look at this the clive edition the top left is our current one the apple banana is in the bottom right, and I can barely tell the difference. I think it's just a bad picture because the Apple Banana I saw was shorter and much fatter. The Gross Michelle Banana, which is kind of bottom center, was the original banana that's
Starting point is 04:03:56 been wiped out that supposedly is the model for all our artificial banana flavors. If that Gross Michelle variety is the one that's responsible for artificial banana flavor it tastes like ass artificial bananas the worst fucking flavor it's horrible and i love bananas i didn't see that coming artificial banana oh it's oh have you ever had a banana runt that's literally what i was thinking of i would rather die. I would suck a banana brunt
Starting point is 04:04:25 before Kyle's new cum enhancing flavor. You guys are insane. Pina cum a lotta. Pina cum a lotta. That's probably enough of that. Destiny, thank you for coming on so much. I had a good time with you.
Starting point is 04:04:40 I'm glad we were able to talk about the serious issues tonight. For sure. The bottom of some core bananas. Bananas, fitness. I'm glad we were able to talk about the serious issues tonight for sure bananas bananas, fitness yeah all those things is there anything you want to plug or promote or mention or send people to
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