Painkiller Already - PKA 616 W/Wendigoon: JFK Conspiracy, Vibrator Controversy, Federal Legalization?

Episode Date: October 7, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pka 616 with our guest wendigoon taylor this episode of pka brought to you by wonkyweeds.com lock and load and death by gummybears.com three wonderful companies you'll hear more about them later i guess two wonderful companies hear more about three wonderful products three wonderful products two wonderful companies we'll get the map down halfway through the show when i do the reads wendigoon thank you so much for joining us from your cultural airbnb just um random house covered in seashells and whatnot thank you boys so much for having me i greatly appreciate it always have a great time on the show it's always great to uh just be terrorized by whatever horrific things kyle has to say and here's the great time he did he was absolutely dreadful 30 seconds ago
Starting point is 00:00:50 that's normal procedure he gets it all out and i got it sometimes the last second of the show he does it again yeah it's like poison you gotta you gotta ring every dropout chicken with that like you don't know when zach hits stop show we don't know how long it takes to stop the show sometimes it's three seconds sometimes it's like 18 so kyle will say awful things and sometimes he gets cut off and sometimes no ah he's a lovable guy and we you care about him it's just his sense of humor so kyle joe biden has made pot legal and perhaps letting felons not be felons anymore what is happening here well i think what's happening is you're really struggling with your reading
Starting point is 00:01:33 comprehension that sounds on brand yeah and while the biden stuff is interesting since you have had a couple of incidents lately accidents surgeries maybe we need to focus on you for no he he didn't make he's like yeah someday we'll like look at making it legal and stuff and you guys who have simple possession charges at a federal level those are gone now so don't worry it's like what does that mean what does it mean what does it mean i don't know that's not like a federal simple possession charges. I'll be, I'll be a hundred percent honest. When I heard that, I thought of Kyle.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I was, I was like, Kyle, me too. I was like, I got a little mixed on like there's decriminalizing and legalizing and maybe a third term that don't all mean the same thing, but they sound like they should. And I don't know what it is that he's trying to do,
Starting point is 00:02:23 but it was like decriminalizing and rescheduling as like a lower class of drug, maybe because decriminalizing would just be what like a lot of places already have, which is just like, if they catch you with a certain amount, they're like, ah,
Starting point is 00:02:37 you cut that out and they give you a ticket and they confiscate it. So he's, and again, we're talking about federal, all you can do is federal guidelines, federal stuff. The states still have their same draconian laws in place and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:50 The same thing would happen to me again if I had more whacks here rolling around. You don't know that. Give it a go. Nothing's changed. Nothing's... Actually, it would be a little bit different this time. If he's legalized possession and they'd have gotten rid of him. It'd be a little different this time i suppose but but
Starting point is 00:03:07 in any case this isn't getting me out of anything you know like it's like i pled guilty to intent with uh uh or with possession with intent to distribute i believe i think it's been a while you know a couple years whatever i'm charged there was a piece of it was dude you've seen the movies they put that piece of paper in front of you and they're like, sign. Not really though. But my lawyer was like, this is a good idea.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I guess it doesn't solve all your problems, but I think you're underselling the impact of it. It's legal to own people who've been busted for owning and get their records cleared. And he's rescheduling it so that it's easier to research or something i forget what the rescheduling does yeah that's all good changes the guidelines you know right now it's considered heroin at a federal level like equal you know as far as substances are concerned but what it's not doing is changing anything about like the drug war right like they're still going
Starting point is 00:03:59 to be storming houses left and right and they're still going to be grabbing people off the streets with a couple grams of marijuana and locking them up like that's not changing on that's not changing because it happens at a state level like this federal stuff is like like the fact that i got scooped up in some federal stuff is just a consequence of me being me and then like let's get him and also that silly warrant they wrote about the shorts and everything and the it seemed like the state might have been a little disappointed and was like, hey, can you... Anyway, I don't think this is changing anything because I don't... Who gets federal marijuana possession charges anyway? Who are those people? I saw a Reddit comment that said
Starting point is 00:04:35 there's like 700 people. No, 6,500 people is what I saw. Okay, still... Wendigo, let me not talk over you. What are you saying? Oh, you're good. I was just going to say, if I had to imagine, typically whenever the feds get in on a case where it's not a problem with the state, like say, for example, in Colorado, they're trying to bust a guy for something. They can still charge him federally for possession, even though the state doesn't have an issue with it. So more than likely, the people who are going to be exonerated are people in that situation. so more than likely the people who are going to be exonerated are people in that situation kind of like getting al capone on tax evasion like whatever you can grab them for if i had to guess so i there's a couple things in my head one if it becomes federally legal does it be federally legal does it become does it solve the problem of these marijuana businesses not being able to use
Starting point is 00:05:22 banks yeah i'm hoping it does. And that's a big deal. I think that's a separate thing, but that would come along. The banking thing would definitely come along after they legalized it or changed it or decriminalized it, perhaps. And the other part of it that I have in my head, and this might just be wishful thinking, is that when it's legal federally, that does more to set a tone that backward states like Georgia and North Carolina start relaxing a little bit because it's legal federally. And it's just one domino. We don't even have medical here.
Starting point is 00:05:53 You guys are both like way behind Missouri on this. Like, it's actually as far as the Midwest goes, I think Missouri is actually like more chill. But we have T8. Oh, I meant to say Delta 8. We have like that stuff is legal here and to me it's like once you get that you're to me your problems are solved you know just use that instead it's roughly the same thing yeah the same shit but uh um still i i just like seeing people not getting so much trouble and like as much as i love our wonderful sponsors it'd be cool to like
Starting point is 00:06:23 fucking fire up a joint every now and then, a legal one. I do for this. Joints make me cough. There's no way I could smoke a bunch of them all day. That's like a once in a... The same way I smoke cigarettes or I drink beers. It's like if I'm with somebody outside around a campfire or something.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's a very college way to smoke. I'm too old for joints. Give me a vape. Or even like... I like the vape, but even a blunt. I'm down for a blunt. Get multicultural with it, right? Blunts suck.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Joints are actually way better than blunts. Blunts, you're getting halfway tobacco. You're getting like a strong... Yeah, you get a little zing from the tobacco. Yeah, I like it. I guess I just don't like those flavored tobacco wraps very much. Oh, I like those too. They taste cheap and delicious.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Grape, vanilla, honey, whatever. Let's get going. I saw a wonderful mother on TikTok earlier. She had a nice blunt rolled up, and she was letting each of her toddlers hit it. And going around in succession, they were all smoking. Yeah, it was pretty horrific. Who posts that?
Starting point is 00:07:21 The one kid coughed. Wait, you guys are in favor of Bogarting the joint? The fuck is wrong with you, right? Those kids have to get to 21 like everyone else. Dude, one kid is one of those fucking selfish pot smokers who don't give their kids any at all. And then they get a federal charge just like everyone else. None of these children look like they were old enough
Starting point is 00:07:41 to ride a real roller coaster. They were all tiny. And when one of them coughed she called him a bitch i was like that is not how i grew up what a horrible woman what a lucky little kid he's growing up cool mom it's a cool mom who gets their three-year-old high not just high dude like like they were passing the blunt around like like after she let them all hit, she hit it and then went back around. She's got a circle and it was a whole blunt.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Can you imagine what's going on in that house that she was like, this is a good post. I don't know. This is reasonable. People gave Snoop Dogg a lot of shit when he smoked with his kid. I think Snoop was probably 40s, 50s and the
Starting point is 00:08:26 kid i don't know how old he is just based on what he looked like and like kid was like 16 17 maybe something like that and he was it was like come on like i'm okay with that at that first of all your dad's snoop dog let's not pretend like you're a you're a virgin to the marijuana what's a weed okay your father's snoop dog you might be the case study for 16 16 year old smoking weed with the dad occasionally let's see how that goes i bet it goes real well i bet today that was like eight years ago he's doing well i bet snoop dog's son does well i bet he's fine i'm gonna go down the limb and say he's gonna have a wealthy rest of his life yeah yeah he's got it figured out so what happens to that do people just like go oh wow
Starting point is 00:09:06 that's not appropriate or do like oh nothing really find her post and be like i don't know man i'm you know i was on crazy fucking videos just scrolling i watched some i watched like a ukrainian wall bang a russian right after that i sent you guys all that oh get fucked bro fucking fucking camping in the closet he shoots this r Russian and the Russian comes out like, ah, and then he shoots him all up. It's not like a movie. That's not a wallhack if he came out. With high powered rifles. They're obviously military.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And around there's a house and around the corner, there's a door that leads to what seems to be an outdoor small storage closet. I didn't know there was a Russian in there. I don't know how they knew there was a Russian in there, but they were right. And they just start putting... No Russians here! And they start shooting through the door. They put what I think is two or three rounds into
Starting point is 00:09:55 the Russian. He opens the door to come out, and I think he wants to surrender. They're not in a surrender mood. And the two guys put... Kyle, do you think they put 20 rounds in him? He's going to count real quick. They put
Starting point is 00:10:14 20 rounds into this guy. The last eight or so while he's on the ground in the fetal position. It's like, we have a winner and a loser. Was it a wall bang? Yeah, for sure. That guy was shot when he opened the door and came out.
Starting point is 00:10:31 That's a wall bang. I saw another. Did you see the Russian? Was it all those armored vehicles with the big guns that stick out the front like a nose? You can call it tank. They're tanks to me. Other people. Oh, that's actually an Harvard personnel carrier tank.
Starting point is 00:10:50 That's their previous vehicle. You see the trends. Woody, that falls into that pattern that anyone who knows less than you about it is an idiot. Anyone who knows more is a nerd. It's like, shut up, nerd. It's irrelevant in this situation. I think the commons called it a BMP, which I don't know what that is. Okay, that's one of those semi-automatic little 30-millimeter.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It's like an APC, but it's got a big gun on it, essentially. Yeah, I'm familiar with all these letters. And so the Russians come over the field. They've got the big nose pointed straight in the air with a white flag on it, and maybe another white flag somewhere else. And they able to if i if i have my facts right and they came from reddit comments i'm most likely right on the money that uh they got fifty thousand dollars for like handing over this working bmp to the ukrainian army and they came out and real
Starting point is 00:11:44 professionally the russians like surrendered and the ukrainian had like one fire crew running this working BMP to the Ukrainian army. And they came out and real professionally, the Russians like surrendered. And the Ukrainian had like one fire crew running security, the other one sort of taking in the prisoners. And they got themselves a free BMP, which is a tank, I guess. And yeah. So yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:11:59 The BMPs are like our, like Bradley vehicles, I guess, maybe something like that. I don't know. People fit in it, like maybe five or six, and it's got a roughly 30 millimeter autocannon on top that goes doop, doop, doop, doop, doop, and it's got a thermal imager
Starting point is 00:12:13 on it if it's a good one. What you mean is it looks armored and treaded. It's got treads on it. That's a tank. Thank you, Taylor. Everyone knows this. I think the way the Russian army, I watched a video today. I think they'll have like 10 tanks in a group, and then they'll have like 30 of these, and then like 300 men or something.
Starting point is 00:12:36 And that's supposed to be like the group that's going out. And because they're not doing anything like that, they're just sending 10 tanks and a bunch of those. They're getting like rocketed left and right bunch of those. They're getting rocketed left and right. And this has been so fun to watch. Today has been awesome. I've been all over the news today. And every hour there's a new video that's like Russians routed out of some useless town or city. They show where the Russians are making their advances. And this guy broke it down really well. He's like, this is Wagneragner group this is the private military the goons that that are paid um the paramilitary group that's paid by putin they're making advances let's look
Starting point is 00:13:10 at this little town they they took according to the russians it doesn't have a house it's a clinic with some sheds behind it but because they took it they get a bonus so so the wagner group is out there like cheesing. They're conquering clinics. They're conquering every outhouse and clinic and dog pound they can get. And meanwhile, the Ukrainians are actually taking meaningful chunks of territory and killing slews of Russians. It's been wild. I've been watching it tight for the last couple of days. The problem is I don't understand geography. watching it tight for the last couple of days.
Starting point is 00:13:44 The problem is I don't understand geography. You know, every time like the number three guy in ISIS dies and they're like, I'll not never heard of him. Hassan is now dead. This is a huge victory. Got it. And I'm like, well,
Starting point is 00:13:55 if you tell me when they took Lyman, I thought they're like, this is a big deal. And they show like a railroad track, eight rails wide. They're like, look at it. I'm like, I guess I can see why that's important, I guess.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Okay. Now that's just city after city, we're getting the Dumbask region and the Mollusk region and the Caterpillar region or something else. I was supposed to be excited about that. You got your finger on the pulse. I don't know what's big.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Where will they go next? Tell us. What bordering Eastern European country could they go to next, Woody? Which one? Some kind of Ea at the end. Estonia, Latvia. I don't know. They speak vampire wherever it is
Starting point is 00:14:45 I'm learning so much about Geography from this war as Americans typically do. Did you know that Turkey was In Europe? Yes Yes, yes Woody See other people didn't know that Until just recently Turkey is an Asian country it is
Starting point is 00:15:01 97% Asian and 3% Of Turkey is in Europe Un. It is 97% Asian, and 3% of Turkey is in Europe, unbeknownst to me. I've met a Turk before, and he didn't look Asian, but I think he's that Eurasian kind of Mongolian fella. He was also cross-Asian. Russians don't look Asian. Trust him. No, they're Slavic. They're Asians,
Starting point is 00:15:18 though. They're more Middle Eastern than anything because Turkey's just Persia, basically. So it's like the North Middle East area-ish. Persia's not even a basically. So it's like North Middle East area-ish. Well, Persia's not even a country. Persia's more like Iran. Well, yeah, it became You almost got me.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You almost got me. Persia became Iran, didn't it? Yes, it did. Did you see, so Putin ordered that mobilization and supposedly it's supposed to be a reservist getting called up but they're calling everybody up and seemingly they're sending them back like it's i think what it is or maybe what it seems like to me is like their organization system is so bad
Starting point is 00:15:52 that they were just like all men come here yeah we've got a list but it's so fucking hard just all of you come here and and we'll go through you then and we'll figure out who fights so anybody who's ever fought um up to 50 years old has to show up So anybody who's ever fought up to 50 years old has to show up. And anybody who's ever fought, who's like a junior officer up to 60 has to show up and fight. Is this different from that thing they did like a week or two ago? This is the most, this is that thing,
Starting point is 00:16:15 but, but, but, but the way it's being implemented has been, has been weird and, and, and different. I think Kyle tried to suggest that the russian government is inefficient
Starting point is 00:16:25 and perhaps even corrupt they're rounding people up and just sending them out there according to some of the people and uh the one guy was like i last week i was doing this then they took me two days later i was here luckily before i came to ukraine I googled how to surrender. I was watching a YouTuber who seemed to be an expert on these matters and he's like, just grabbing regular people and putting them with your professional army is not helpful. Because my dumbass heard 300,000
Starting point is 00:16:59 and I'm like, alright, I'll admit that they're not trained or anything, but they're a problem, right? 300,000 dumbasses with rifles are still something to be careful about. You still have rifles. And they're like, no, it's almost a subtraction. Your professional army has to care for these people. They get shot. They've got to take them back.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Now you've got people who are worth a shit helping people who aren't worth a shit. And I thought about it. Taylor, let's say you were going to get into a fight and i offered you 116 pound girl to help you would you be like no this is just a fucking problem now now i have this dude in front of me and this helper to deal with or how about this let's say say you're going to play Tarkov and I offer you three players who have never played before, but they really want to. You'd be like, guys, you're really a hindrance. Could you not?
Starting point is 00:17:55 Just stay here. I'm going to go to the buttons. Everybody hears your footsteps, you fucks. They are very excited, though. Did they say what percentage they're assuming are those, like, untrained conscripts, basically, of the 300,000? Like, all of them are a huge percentage? Well, the 300,000 is the conscripts, right? It's the people they're calling up, the reservists, the new ones that they want.
Starting point is 00:18:19 700,000 fled the country. A lot of those guys are recently retired. Yeah. You know, they have training. Some do, yeah. I don't know if those are largely guys who are in the military, not on deployment, or if it's like we're just grabbing 300,000 guys. So Taylor, I pay a lot of attention to this, and I feel like I can't trust anything I read. The thing is, there's what it's supposed to be, and then there's what's happening so what's supposed to be is like what we would do calling it reservist and former
Starting point is 00:18:46 active duty personnel people with like plenty of experience and stuff and training and then putting them through some training six weeks maybe up maybe two months that's what that's literally what came out of this russian officer's mouth i watched the asshole lie to him and and then you'd be you know inserted in a unit or maybe create your own unit or whatever the fuck and then maybe they take you somewhere. But what's happening it seems like is they're taking a broad spectrum of different people, some of which are like criminals.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I saw them advertising at the prisons to sign up for the Wagner Group or something. I guess they're pulling them out of prison and paying them to go fight. And offering them freedom. And freedom, yeah, of course. That's worked historically. That's like their black honor historically I get all my best idea
Starting point is 00:19:28 from DC movies I watched Suicide Squad it was pretty good it's literally the Suicide Squad it can't be more of a disaster than that they have a shark man if they had a shark man
Starting point is 00:19:44 it would take one shark man? If they had a shark man, it would take one shark man to turn the tides. I don't know. One shark man shows up on the front and Russia just is like, can shark man breathe on land? I don't know. He'd be useless if not. He'd be worse than having a shark on your team.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I'd rather just have a shark. Just a normal shark. It's like, here's Sharkman. He's like, maybe not a good idea to make him in Siberia. Cold-blooded fusion creatures. Bad, bad move. I was watching an interview with some of the tank crews, like a Ukrainian tank crew that's in the fighting now,
Starting point is 00:20:23 and they're explaining how they coordinated. So the tank commander isn't in a tank crew that's in the fighting now, and they're explaining how they coordinated. So the tank commander isn't in a tank, he's somewhere else with a drone, and he's overseeing the whole battlefield, so he can be like, number two, flank to the right, 400 meters, yes. Three, go over here, hold your position, rotate your gun here,
Starting point is 00:20:40 and he's like, he's overseeing the thing like it's an RTS. This is what I've been training for. It's similar with a lot of stuff. I've got a friend who was a cavalry lieutenant, and whenever he did it with the National Guard, whenever he did his training exercises, the battalion commander would just set up a mobile spot,
Starting point is 00:21:00 and from there just coordinate where all the tanks and stuff go. So, yeah, it's essentially just giant war games uh yeah i hope dude there's a couple things coming out of this ukrainian russian war that i think you'd have a permanent change in landscape like one thing is whose weapons work right take um india india has been buying a lot of weapons from russia for a long time we just watched russia get butt fucked by american stuff right this rumored russian whatever that there are peers not true the nato shit is working so much better than the russian shit that this little ukrainian army is beating the russian empire if i'm india and i'm buying russian tanks
Starting point is 00:21:47 and russian artillery and russian into the whole russian war system i'm like fuck i'm going to us the real winner in this thing is going to be boeing and lockheed martin and raytheon and all those other guys guys like india are no longer going to be buying russian shit that's that's a thing there's some more that i've forgotten the uh oh what works in war everyone tells me i'm wrong but i'm like i don't think it's about tanks anymore i feel like six million dollar tanks are getting beaten by fifty thousand dollar javelins all the time and unless you're america rich a war of attrition where 50 000 and 6 million or somehow even is a problem it and this drone stuff kyle talked about man why are there still people in planes it really limits what the plane can do like the amount of does seem like acrobatic you know how much space
Starting point is 00:22:38 and money and like other bullshit we have to put into a plane for the human to do well in it if you take the human out and make it all remote controlled it seems like that's a better plane well if they jam the controls though there's all sorts of like jamming stuff you know you need a wire connecting you in the plane i did see um they're talking about we're in the fifth generation of fighters i guess now like the f-22 f-35 Who's counting? Every military industrial complex. And so there's, what are they? The F's it would seem.
Starting point is 00:23:11 They're talking about the proposed, uh, the idea for the, the six generation fighter. And when they, when it was supposedly going to be, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:23:18 coming out and on the battlefield and everything. And that system is supposedly a plane with three to five smaller drone-like planes that accompany it in formation. And when I saw them do an artist rendering, I was like, man, that looks like those UFOs that everybody sees where you've got three lights flying together doing stuff. Because they showed, first of all, it looks a lot like the B-2 stealth bomber, you know, the big wing, but now make it a fighter plane. It looked pretty cool, what they drew. Who knows how close it is to what it's going to be. But then it had similar drones that were all
Starting point is 00:23:54 to the left and right and the front. And I was like, I've always thought that whenever we see UFOs unidentified flying objects, I guess, not necessarily aliens or green men, that I always figure it's guess. Not necessarily aliens or green men. I always figure it's some sort of military drone or aircraft or something.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I remember in the 90s, we do. Remember the triangular aircraft that everybody was seeing in the 90s? The X-Files even made a whole thing about it. That was the stealth fighter. Absolutely. Remember the plane that everyone was seeing in the 90s? That was the stealth fighter that's absolutely yeah yeah remember the plane that everyone was
Starting point is 00:24:26 seeing in the 90s that was the stealth fighter one of the things that occurs to me about taking the pilot out of the plane i know there's the whole like can they jam it and get us to lose control of it maybe they can i know what the fuck do i know but jammers are real who knows yeah but pilots are expensive and time consuming to train right we all know what it costs to lose a plane it's like 35 million dollars it's a big problem you take the person out of it and that 35 million dollar plane can be equaled for 20 million perhaps because there's a lot of expense and shit that goes in there and keeping the pilot alive also our pilots now are like fucking fps players that have to stop playing after their
Starting point is 00:25:06 first death right they're all noobs even the good ones are noobs imagine if you could respawn be like all right you got me now i'm gonna come back with drone number two i'm still trained if anything i've got a lesson learned in this thing i i think drones and like lightweight interesting to see if a drone can fight with a human being, though, right? In a fighter plane scenario. Drones can routinely pull 18 Gs when they turn.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Drones can stop on a dime. Humans can't do that. They get concussions and shit. Blackouts. Well, I mean, drones can, but now we're talking about a jet-powered drone that's the size of a plane that's carrying air-to-air missiles and stuff and has to make decisions and has to track a target.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I see. We're going to go. You've got to beat my ace up here who's been flying his whole life and studying military games with your robot that's on its own. I disagree. No, no, no. I'm at home remote controlling.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I know. We got this. I've been cheesing Halo for so long. I know. We got this. I've been remote control. I'm an expert. I've died six times already. I'm a veteran. Oh, you want to remote control this thing?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah. And by the way. Input lag is crazy. You wouldn't put up with a lag in Call of Duty. But I'm shooting missiles that are auto guided. The lag is crazy. I hear you. But how bad is it?
Starting point is 00:26:27 It's probably a terrible ping. Why? Like multiple seconds, right? Frame rate issues, you know. I'm fucking tired of skill-based matchmaking. I also think that if that were the answer, I think the United States
Starting point is 00:26:43 does whatever's like the meta, right? I don States does whatever's the meta, right? I think our stuff's too strict ahead of everyone. I feel like America does a fair amount of just listening to the Air Force and what they want. Fuck, the reason our planes are black instead of pastel
Starting point is 00:26:58 is because it's cooler. Okay, well, we're not going to make pastel planes, okay? They're more stealthy. We're not the Pussy Force. We want them to see us coming at some point. They need to know. Have you seen the boats they make with the angular
Starting point is 00:27:14 paint patterns to make it hard to know how far away the boat is? I have seen that. I don't know if it works. Bar none. I don't know if it works either. It is the coolest looking sort of camo we have on anything. Those stri boat camo that's exactly they did them yeah too yeah yeah that's super well actually no second place second place first place long shot those uh those like demon mouths they put on planes nothing comes close to that you going to have to back off because I like the chicks with the skirts blowing up on the planes.
Starting point is 00:27:48 There's room on those for everyone. You got a heart that says mom with an arrow through it. You got a bunch of Sailor Jerry looking tattoos and then a big, scary, bloody mouth. I do love stuff about that. Yeah, that paint. I do love stuff like that about old warfare. Before we had strategy and everything, it's like, put a mouth on it.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Make a main look at it. How are we going to scare those Japanese? On our missiles and shit. I like that. What do they hate? Fanged animals. Trust me, I'm very familiar with their culture. The German fears the tiger.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Did you see Biden down in Florida doing the hurricane recovery shit with big boy DeSantis? DeSantis in the white boots. Zach, please get us a picture of this sexy, sexy man in his hot Google boots. We had a big hurricane a picture of this sexy, sexy man in his hot go-go boots. Had a big hurricane down in Florida. DeSantis
Starting point is 00:28:47 needs that federal aid, so Biden flies down there. Biden's looking sharp, alright? Got his shades on. He's got his shirt unbuttoned a little bit, and he's already macking on some dude's old lady. Right? He's got his arm... I swear to God, I hope we find the picture. He's macking... He's got his arm around her, and he's pointing...
Starting point is 00:29:04 And he's clearly in the process of making fun of her husband's shirt. You can see it happening find the picture. He's Mac and he's got his arm around her. And he's cool. And he's he's clearly in the process of making fun of her husband's shirt. You can see it happening in the picture. Go back and look. And and then they also caught him on a hot mic saying something like nobody fucks with a Biden. And then and DeSantis. It is Cocoa Boots. What the fuck? Who's dressing you, big boy? When you said white boots, I'm like, this is either going to look awesome or terrible. Let me ask you a question. And it looks terrible.
Starting point is 00:29:32 If I were there, if I were there and I worked for him, I'd be like, yo, yo, yo, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You and that dude behind you swap clothes right fucking now. Because he is dressed like he's here to do some work. And you look like a a real pussy boy okay yeah like that fat kid that i remember we had a fat kid in school that wore one of those like sweater vests like that and it was the first time i ever saw somebody our age wear a sweater vest and i like i'm not in a mean way i was like hey man i noticed you wearing that is what's up you like
Starting point is 00:29:59 those because he wore a lot of them he was, they keep me warm on these cold winter days. And it was like ninth grade. So I was like, I can never be seen around you again. You're a fucking loser, bro. And that's what DeSantis is giving off right now with this vest. It's super lame. They should have put plain teeth on him. Dude, that would have been cool. Nobody would have noticed
Starting point is 00:30:22 the white boots. They'd be like, damn. That guy doesn't like germans yeah if you follow politics the history behind it is a little humiliating too like when hurricane sandy came in he was one of the leaders in the whole like you know what sorry about your hurricane but you're on your own i'm voting against your funding you can all go fuck yourselves now florida has in this is in the same position and he's like please papa biden can i have some money please and uh suddenly he's he's fucking communist who wants his comrades to bail him out and biden's giving him money he's coming through but it's there's a
Starting point is 00:30:56 real hypocritical look to it i wanted to see the picture of biden making fun of that guy's shirt yeah yeah and then he said something about brothers never fight outside the house. There was... He's full of those whimsical, nonsensical murmurings. The other day, they asked him, Mr. Bridges, some people are concerned
Starting point is 00:31:18 about your mental health, if you're with it. Well, you know, when I think about how old I am, I think that I'm no older than a fly. You know what I think about? That's how I think about it. And that I also have three days left to live.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And I was like, yes! It just sneaks up on you and you're like, I'm like a fly. And he's like, he's doing that. And Kyle just did it in way too cogent of a way and you only took a third of the time he did but it was so funny the clip of like the stoic journalist like are you feeling mentally sound are you feeling with it and he's like oh yes absolutely like a
Starting point is 00:31:56 fly on a uh just like he's just just like meanders for 30 seconds goes back to the journalist face who's like hmm he wants to say something like at some point I still feel like a kid I don't think of myself as an old man I know that's what it looks like up here I think of myself as a young guy
Starting point is 00:32:18 now I gotta be careful I fall off a bicycle every now and then but I'm leading this country as well as anyone ever has if you ask me like he just just flow with it don't bring up flat don't be like ah i i think of that like i never think of being too old to run a country no more than i think about being a fly flying around wherever i want maybe a little poo and you know when you're a fly i bet poo smells good you know sometimes your own poo smells good
Starting point is 00:32:45 it's like yeah yeah he's not stuttering enough you need to stutter a lot more lose your place and then just like repeat the first part of sentences a lot i'm kind of with kyle on on his biden analysis i keep dropping the same thing like like in terms of listening to him speak he does sound frail senile and confused sometimes brandon people Brandon. People say that he has a stutter. And while he does have a stutter, and he did have a stutter as a kid that's not made up, he didn't have a stutter like this 30 years ago. His stutter has come back and asserted itself in his speech patterns.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah, when he was calling the schools like an urban jungle or something because they were letting blacks in on him, he said that clearly. He had a stutter for that speech. He has his moments. Like a bunch of monkeys. There was none of that. Okay? He said it clearly, and he was
Starting point is 00:33:34 an awful person. The shit he's done about the infrastructure bill, the COVID relief, the fucking transportation thing, the green thing, now he's changing marijuana laws. Why didn't Trump change changing marijuana laws. Like, why didn't Trump change the marijuana laws? It's just an executive order. Why do you do it?
Starting point is 00:33:50 I want to see like real full-throated legalization. Like, let's get it really moving. For that he needs Republicans to vote for it. Say it like a man. Yeah, he needs Republicans. I want him to smoke one. I want a president who pulls out a joint and he's like, you know, later tonight I want him to smoke one. I want a president who pulls out a joint and is like,
Starting point is 00:34:05 you know, later tonight, I want to see about this. I want that. I got the codes. Don't worry. Don't worry. Here, hold this for me. That was so funny. Fuck all my concubines. I bet Kennedy would have
Starting point is 00:34:21 done that if they didn't kill him. I guarantee you he would have got high in the Oval Office before it was over. Have we talked about Kennedy on the show? Like you with us? Never in depth at all. I know the show has talked about Kennedy, like everybody has, but have we ever had the Kennedy talk? I think it got passively mentioned on the episode that Woody wasn't here for.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Like Harley and everyone was on. I don't think we talked much, though to i don't know too much about it is there not is it the oliver did oliver stone make the movie the jfk movie is that who made it yes yeah i remember watching yeah that's the oliver stone movie i remember that anyone who's never seen jfk you should watch it it's a tremendous film great cast got our boy kevin spacey in there and uh it i remember at the end of it there's something his boys part of the gang so to speak president of the kevin stacy stand club our boys are like kevin spacey and i don't know who's the fucking guy who didn't kill himself
Starting point is 00:35:25 he was just a fun-loving playboy who liked to have a good time yeah is what i've heard i mean if that wasn't it then surely that all that information with galane's list they would have looked into it, right? That's what the guard at the penitentiary told me. I don't know what else is going on. That's what the guy who wasn't in prison there, the former cop with his pit bulls and his 22-inch arms, that's what he told you before the cameras went out. With his magical camera racing capabilities. At the end of JFK, though, there's a part where, I don don't know there's some text on the screen maybe and they're like they give a date in roughly 2020 when like
Starting point is 00:36:11 they're gonna open these files and they'll be available for the public and then like that came right or you're probably like oh yeah where's this fight they like pushed it forward again they pushed it forward again they're like nah we nah, we changed our mind. No shit. Kick the can down the road. I remember my dad looked at me. My dad, I guess, didn't think he'd live to 2020. At the time, he was like, make sure that you look into that. Like back then, I remember so well. Like 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Make sure you look into that. I want Wendy to give me a rip. Even more. So the JFK files are a whole thing. There's like hundreds of pages of declassified info that you mentioned my last video about the uh the vampire attacks part of it actually came from the jfk files so it's like this book of information and then what they did is they took stuff like jfk stuff relating to MLK Nazi groups in South America.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And they released like a few pages and then redacted the rest. And it's like, that'll be another 10, 20 years. Like, all right. So they acknowledge it exists, but they're like these 40 pages. No, what? 24 when we're all dead. That's when you can look at it. And then the people alive then will be like, nah, nah,
Starting point is 00:37:25 let's kick that can a little further down the road. I haven't. And then Kyle tells his son, like you look out for that. Whenever that comes around. I don't know if it's true, but it's right here. Zach wrote it.
Starting point is 00:37:37 White house delays the Reese, the release of secret JFK assassination records, citing COVID-19. Damn. That sounds like them. That's dangerous. You can't be reading that on your phone. That's what killed JFK.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I've heard it's a good... I've heard the JFK movie is good and entertaining, but I don't even know what their claim is for who did it in the JFK movie, like CIA or something, I guess, based on the redacted thing but we know for sure that that's not the full story in that movie right like
Starting point is 00:38:10 if the people out there were powerful enough to kill JFK they're powerful enough to kill someone trying to tell the story of how JFK was killed you know like that they wouldn't allow a movie like that to come out if it was really spilling like state secret
Starting point is 00:38:25 beans. You know, there's a lot of weird stuff with the Cubans and with and with with with with Oswald. I've never thought the mob stuff was particularly compelling, but the Cuban stuff, the all the CIA stuff with Oswald. And then there's that one guy who's all the Ruby stuff is really weird. Jack Ruby. He was in the mob or mob connected, right?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah, he did. Well, he was more of like an enforcer for random stuff. Like mob connection, yes, but he wasn't in the mob. He wasn't like a big member or anything. Yeah, the whole thing's wild. And then that shot that he supposedly made.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I don't know. And then they shot that he supposedly made. I don't know. And then they killed his brother. After firing three shots out of a bolt action in like two seconds. Like that guy had sleight of hand on up there. What's hard to do. And like, if you've never tried to do it in real, if you've only played video games with scoped guns, like shooting the gun and then chambering a new round
Starting point is 00:39:24 and then putting it a new round and then putting it back up to your ear and getting that sight picture and then kind of getting settled into it like that it seems quick but it's precious seconds that you need if you're trying to shoot a guy driving away from you in a fucking lincoln or whatever you know three they say it was three bolt action shots yes three bolt action shots out of a 6.5 Carcano rifle as he was driving away, fired in the time span of a little over three seconds, if I remember correctly. So the first shot was a miss. It supposedly it skipped off the pavement and hit a guy who was walking down the street. The second shot is the magic bullet.
Starting point is 00:40:04 That's the one that supposedly hold hold up, let me think. I'm JFK. It hit him in the neck, went forward into his arm, down into his thigh, out of the front of his knee, into the seat in front of him, and hit the governor in the back and was perfectly intact. And then the third, that's why whenever, when you watch the Zapruder film, he's holding his neck because he had just been shot in the back and was perfectly intact. And then the third, that's why whenever, when you watch the Zapruder film,
Starting point is 00:40:29 he's holding his neck because he had just been shot in the neck. So he's leaned over holding his neck. And then the third shot was the one through the head. So yeah, three shots, like super fast from a bookstore window, several hundred feet back. Just a lot of, a lot of variables happening at once.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So do you not think that lee harvey like you think he was maybe framed or where does he kind of fit into the mix uh so leave heart yes yeah there's the magic bullet so yeah into the back then the neck then the arm then the leg uh and then surprisingly was all in one piece in if in court they call it the magic bullet yeah they tend to not do that so much um bullets do weird stuff um i don't know about all that shit and then it being pristine at the end is the real weird thing because they get all warped up and and beat up after hitting bones and stuff and i don't know it looks like there were like six points of contact in that graphic like that would ball up and fuck a bullet up right if it's full metal jacket it stays pointy like
Starting point is 00:41:31 really yeah it's not gonna mushroom back it's gonna stay uh and that is full metal jacket it's gonna stay together but it's gonna look worse than that um that that would be a real pristine bullet if you found that on the sand at a firing range, downrange. If you go downrange at Knob Creek in Kentucky, millions of rounds have been fired that way. If you just go
Starting point is 00:41:55 down there and start kicking dirt, you could just piles of the lead, the projectiles, every kind you can imagine. You can see that not too too many of them unless it unless it what i got him you guys were so still i couldn't tell if all of you froze i'm like maybe it's me no you're good you're good now you're good you said unless it they wouldn't be the bullets would not be pristine unless... Unless you hit sand or something.
Starting point is 00:42:25 It was like... We would shoot bullets into that rubber stuff they use for landscaping. You can fill a trash can up with that and use that as a bullet stop. You're doing ammo tests and stuff. You shoot right in, it'll catch the bullet. The bullet's in pretty pristine condition because it's going through soft rubber.
Starting point is 00:42:40 But when you hit dirt and rocks and shit, the bullets get mangled. I don't know. Whenever I've hit animals and recovered them, they were mangled too. I don't know about all that. I call it a magic bullet for a reason. They get harder to kill that guy. Yeah, what was the Lee Harvey?
Starting point is 00:42:54 So I'm not positive about this one because I haven't dove into the research regarding him specifically. Whenever I was doing my MLK assassination video, I saw this and like quickly followed it. And I was like, all right, whenever I do, whenever I remake a full board JFK video, I will come back to this.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Um, but Lee Harvey Oswald was an employee at the bookstore. And according to official records, he was a, uh, he was a communist sympathizer. Didn't like JFK. It was during the cold war. So they just called him a commie because that was the idea sympathizer, didn't like JFK. It was during the Cold War, so they just called him
Starting point is 00:43:26 a commie because that was the idea. So he supposedly just decided that he was going to kill the president whenever he heard that the president was going along that area. I'm sorry, I'm going branded Whenever he heard that the president was going along that area. So he,
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'm sorry, I'm going branded right now. Does something need to be said? No, no, no. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Sorry. I heard the, the mic come on and I was like, Oh, what's going on? It's never happened before. Yeah. We heard you audio and we heard him typing and that's why,
Starting point is 00:44:04 that's why I froze up. i'm like is is this an emergency announcement i don't know sorry i thought i was just gonna stop no big deal first they got kyle now they got zach anyway uh so to stay on the train of thought supposedly lee harvey oswald just hated the president and the united states wanted to kill him according to a report this was the quick thing i saw i haven't fully looked into the initial police report is that when because the police ran into the building that whenever they ran into the building lee harvey oswald was downstairs working according to like
Starting point is 00:44:45 again this one report that I haven't validated that he was just downstairs working there sweeping the floor or whatever and then one of the police officers was murdered supposedly the first guy who ran into Oswald got shot and then Oswald escaped out of
Starting point is 00:45:02 the bookstore and to an old movie theater if I remember correctly. And then the police followed them there and arrested him. But that initial police report says that when they got in, Oswald was just there. He wasn't upstairs shooting another cop with a gun. So and then that report disappeared from the official record later. So the theory is that Oswald was set up to be the fall guy or the patsy. the theory is that Oswald had was set up to be the fall guy or the Patsy.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And then later they just took that record out so that it would better fit the narrative that Oswald was the shooter. On top of that, whenever Oswald was being held by the police, he kept saying like, I have no idea what's going on. And then whenever they explained like the shooting and everything, he said, Oh,
Starting point is 00:45:44 so I'm the Patsy. I'm the fall guy. that's how this is going to work and then he gets shot by jack ruby so a lot of people are dubious over the uh oswald connection um there's a jack ruby may have killed him to cover up anything yes yeah yeah so that that's that's the theory so jack ruby was a mob enforcer he had carried out like jobs for that's why i's the theory. So Jack Ruby was a mob enforcer. He had carried out like jobs for, that's why I said he wasn't specifically in the mob. He's more like a contractor. He supposedly just loved the president so much that he decided to shoot the guy as he was being transferred to interrogation out of the kindness of his
Starting point is 00:46:21 own heart. So he gets gunned down. And then whenever they arrest him, he's like, oh, I just like the president. And it turns out he had cancer and he died four months later. It was four months or four years soon after.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And if I remember correctly, his family, he had family debt and hospital bills from his cancer that disappeared after he shot Oswald. So, and that was part of the, a lot of people throw that towards the mob theory.
Starting point is 00:46:52 They're like, Oh, maybe the mob hired him to do it to pay off his debt. It's like, yeah, the CIA, that's the mob you're looking for. They have a name and everything.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yeah. So that's, that's like the Oswald theory and like the Ruby theory and all that. Of course it goes into more of like there being a second shooter, the whole grassy knoll thing and all that. So what is the grassy knoll thing? I've always heard that like as a joke from Dale Gribble and king of the hill. And I never looked like,
Starting point is 00:47:17 what is that? So, uh, Kennedy is in the back. Sorry. Go ahead, Kyle. I just said pocket sand quietly.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Oh, Kennedy is in the back. Sorry, go ahead, Kyle. I just said pocket sand quietly. Pocket sand. My fault. Yeah. So Kennedy's in the Lincoln. He's going down the street, and Lee Harvey Oswald is in a bookstore behind him, to his back right. There is a grassy knoll, as it's been dubbed,
Starting point is 00:47:43 which is a small hill underneath a tree by a fence to his forward right, both on the right side of the vehicle, but the grassy knoll's in front of him. The only footage that we still have of the shooting is the Subruder film. That is the film. Yeah, so there's a picture of the grassy knoll up towards where the trees are back there, like the shadowy area. I don't think that wall is still there today, if I remember correctly. But like it's like a little field, essentially. So anyway, the only footage that we have is of the Subruder film. There was a cameraman standing on the same side of the vehicle of the camera shot we just saw who was filming the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:48:23 So he filmed or sorry, on the opposite side, he would have been over near the grassy knoll filming so he's filming the whole thing and he films from that angle as the shots ring out and as kennedy gets killed in the footage on the zapruder film you can see that there is someone else across the street who is also filming on a camera so that should be the solution right because if our cameraman the Zapruder cameraman's back here and the shooter's over to his right then the person on the other side of the street should have an angle of that and supposedly well not supposedly this is a fact they recovered that footage and brought it into court during the trial that like the movie JFK is about and all that. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So see how Zapruder position is like next to the grassy knoll dude over there where the mouse is on the right side of the road is where this mystery cameraman was. So anyway, that footage makes its way into court. And it was not shown publicly. It was shown to a private jury the jury said that the evidence in the footage was compelling and the next day whenever they moved to make it public record they misplaced the tape and to this day it's never been recovered they just the biggest trial ever they're like oh we misfiled it i guess it's just it's not here anymore uh but according to the luck yeah man i hope some cia guy didn't lose his job over that
Starting point is 00:49:58 oh my god he worked hard to file that paperwork, man. According to the people who did see it there at the grassy knoll, which is again, the position in the diagram, whenever Kennedy's head explodes and he actually gets shot, there is a large puff of smoke from the grassy knoll. And that also lines up because Kennedy was in the Lincoln lean down like this. And whenever he got shot, supposedly from
Starting point is 00:50:25 up here, his head jerked backwards and his whole body flew out the back. Which, yeah, your muscles can do weird stuff when you get shot, but it's much more likely if he was shot from the front that his head would shoot backwards like that rather than being shot in the back of the head
Starting point is 00:50:41 and having that reaction. So the idea is that the shooter was in front of him at the Grassy Knoll rather than behind him at the bookstore. There's also like the three bullets. I'm in. I'm in. The three bullets is also widely contested. For example, supposedly the first shot's the one that skipped across the pavement and hit the guy watching the parade go by. Right. example supposedly the first shot's the one that skipped across the pavement and hit the guy watching the parade go by right well according to that guy's account he heard a gunshot and stopped and then looked and then got struck in the leg so supposedly again according to the theory the grassy knoll guy fired first and then whoever's in the book because there was someone in the
Starting point is 00:51:22 bookstore whoever was in the bookstore that shot is the one that hit him. Cause there's no way this guy heard a gunshot and was like, I wonder what that could be. And then that gave enough time for the bullet to skip and hit him. No, that's not how, that's not how speed works. That's not how speed works.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. It would have to be some wacky shit, but it's possible. That's the fun thing. Like that bullet would have been like ding, dong, ding. And he heard bang, the bullets been like, ding, dong, ding, and here, bang! The bullet's still going, bing, bang,
Starting point is 00:51:48 ding, click. It's like a Looney Tunes cartoon jumping all around the square. And perfectly intact. I never knew how much bullets cost until I started shooting a lot of racers. Specifically, not just bang, bang, bang, but when you've got a belted machine gun
Starting point is 00:52:04 shooting hundreds of tracers at like that area and you're hitting like trees and stumps and rocks and hard pieces of dirt and soft pieces of different water let's start making sharp turns that you don't think are like physically possible they just make a right turn and they're already going 3000 feet per second. And they just hang a left. I've had that same experience. I shot a saw people know this is a belt fed machine gun. It was on the ground with a bipod and we were shooting it at a car. And,
Starting point is 00:52:35 uh, yeah. After the bullets hit the car in my mind, they vanish, turn to powder, stop disappearing. Yeah. Yeah. Theia thinks that way too actually but in reality because they're traces you can really see where they're going and they're just
Starting point is 00:52:53 zinging all over the place sometimes back at you they're they do crazy things and kyle's right like that story they tell is improbable but not impossible so yeah it what's crazy is it's like okay you're expecting me to believe that some wonky shit happened the day a president died i'm not gonna buy that i yeah look a president already died today so i'm gonna just assume everything else went like it normally does in our plane of existence and assume y'all had a guy hiding over there one up there probably a third we don't know about who just didn't have a clean shot. I think they conspired
Starting point is 00:53:30 to kill that guy. And there's just so many reasons. He was a fly in the pudding, or whatever they say. And the ointment is it? That's what Biden was talking about. Yeah, I'm a fly! And the ointment is a fly! The fly tries to get rid of me, but I'm stuck. Like a fly. And the ointment is a fly Life tries to get rid of me, but I'm stuck. Like, alive.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah, there was a lot of reasons they would have wanted him dead. They also did suspicious stuff that day. Like, every time the president goes somewhere, they put Secret Service everywhere. And the day of the Dallas drive, the Secret Service got together and they were like,
Starting point is 00:54:02 hey, there's something like, I think the number was 1,200 windows he's going to be driving by. That's too many to cover. Let's just together and they were like um hey there's something like i think the number was 1200 windows he's going to be driving by that's too many to cover let's just no security today i did not know about that he's he's too exposed no one watch him it's just a wasted effort let's hope like like that he's in god's hands now yeah why don't they just say let's not do his capable hands let's put the fucking top up whose idea was the top down i am i always think back to that scene in the office when um when michael is driving and dwight's in the passenger seat of his convertible pt cruiser and dwight thinks it's so cool to let the top down but it's the middle of winter
Starting point is 00:54:43 and he's like and he's already unbuckled them and they're coming down and there's no choice anymore. I just imagine that shitty governor of Texas wanted his picture taken with the president. He was like, no, no, no, come on, come on! He's twisting the top down. Put the top down. The wife is like,
Starting point is 00:55:00 fuck, this guy's an asshole. Is that the view from the grassy knoll? This would have been where the shooter was, yeah wait there could be clues on the fence all right look he wrote his name right there his name's roy sanchez the trees no i like i like that the trees no that's pretty good that goes on that's good the trees no that's a that's a lot closer than i thought it was the way that looked like i don't know where he was when he got shot in perspective to like where that camera was just sitting but if you were trying to shoot a guy in that suburban or whatever down there that
Starting point is 00:55:37 wouldn't be a challenge at all it does i thought that same thing but also i don't know you know how cameras work i feel like i can't take it at face value i was just kind of looking at the sidewalk and the steps and kind of like doing it's not like i could grab it all it's like 80 70 80 feet maybe okay yeah okay yeah i i have a lens that would make that look like a hard shot and an easy super dead at 70 or 80 feet especially if you miss and you haven't got to cover your ass yeah you've got like what's funny is if that's true and they each fired like three shots right they were horrific for like a couple seconds it was like the wild west he's missing all the shots they're skipping over the car yeah too bad
Starting point is 00:56:20 he couldn't like mr magoo his way out of that. He reaches down to tie his shoes at the right time. It's like the tires are popping behind him. That'd be so funny. But that's not the movie then. And then they kill Bobby. That guy's name was like Sirhan Sirhan something like that the guy who showed up and shot him
Starting point is 00:56:49 in a kitchen that the CIA the secret service just let him into and then he gets shot and then they burn the evidence they have to they did it it's really weird you know like I think we might be living
Starting point is 00:57:06 I think that America may have died sometime around that period in history and we're just like the leftovers we're like riding the corpse as long as it'll go the green men took over like right around then and it hasn't been the US since then it's been some sort of
Starting point is 00:57:23 weird triumphant influence some sort of weird some sort of triumphant influence yeah yeah some sort of satanic thing i saw uh they were they were interviewing like rural russians i'll be kind to call them and they asked them uh you know like what do you think about all this and they're like ah oh it's the satanist and i was like who say because that's not anything that like people here ever talk about really. She was talking about America. She thinks that we are Satanists. That we are the great
Starting point is 00:57:50 Satan. I think Iran says that about us. Man, we keep hearing that a lot. Are we sure it's not true? Like 100% that we're not the devil? Are we the bad guys? We certainly are sometimes. We're not the great. We're definitely not the great guy.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Okay. We can agree on that. We're as good as we feel like being, I guess. I feel like we're the good guys in this thing now, supplying the Ukrainians and fighting the good fight. That just seems like a good guys versus bad guys thing until you look at that agreement that they came to back when it was East Germany and West
Starting point is 00:58:26 Germany. And we promised that NATO wouldn't go a step an inch further to the, to the East. And at that time, like NATO was in the middle of Germany. Right. And now we're trying to make NATO like touching the Russian border. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:42 So like, yeah, we agreed to that. And we, we kept breaking our like word year after year as we put a country after country into the un yeah but the u.s doesn't have to keep its word if it's the strongest country on the planet like who's gonna we're the good guys and we're always the good and we're good liars the news has
Starting point is 00:59:01 no i i saw that the other day because i wanted to understand like putin's Good liars! The news has me sure. We're always saying this. We're fine. No, I saw that the other day because I wanted to understand Putin's thing here and the whole thing. I guess that's it. He doesn't want fucking NATO touching him. He wants some buffer room between him and NATO. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:59:20 He didn't have a good excuse for that. He wants that natural gas. Both sides lie through their teeth. Putin also has clips of him saying in 2002 or whatever we'll never go for Crimea. Here's a conspiracy theory
Starting point is 00:59:36 with the Russian thing. The Nord Stream pipeline three out of four of the tubes get bombed at the bottom of the fucking ocean in the middle of the sea, in the middle of this war.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I think they're valued at like $25 billion this pipeline, or just the pipeline itself, but it's gushing gas into the air, and it seems like they can't cap it off, or they don't care, or they haven't even turned it off yet. Dude, Russia cares hard hard that is a huge source of their income that gas you think russia wants the nordstrom to stay in place oh yeah like like one no definitely i think that
Starting point is 01:00:16 they wanted to stay in place because like if they if they wanted to turn it off they would have just turned it off they wouldn't have destroyed their own infrastructure it doesn't that doesn't make sense to me because like if you destroy it already like if they turn it off that that's like being able to turn it off is a good bargaining chip you don't have to turn it off you can go hey we're gonna turn it down and we're gonna turn it off then they have like a bunch of bargaining power with like germany and western europe with that whoever did it without that bargaining chip they really don't they're not nearly as powerful like it does not serve russia's and interests at all to lose all that income and bargaining power that occurs to me too except they're trying to hurt
Starting point is 01:00:51 their customers as well i i don't know the line they use is i guess it's like germany who's getting this shit and uh they want germany's will to break they want them to be cold this winter so they busted then they would then they would turn it down or turn it off they wouldn't destroy the nord stream that brings them shit tons of money that just doesn't make sense like they they want that money they built that pipe and they want to be able to say hey oh you're not doing what we want germany oh looks like we're turning this down bitch like now they don't have that power they they've they've like that's they don't have anymore i agree with you the whole point of this pipeline was, you know, after the Soviet Union broke up, the way that Russia was getting its oil to Germany was straight through Ukraine. I think there's two pipelines.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Well, then the Ukrainians are going to want their piece, right? So they built this, like, $20, $30 billion pipeline in the north. Is that the Black Sea or the Caspian Sea? I don't know. I think it's the Baltic Sea, I think. Okay. Jesus. Anyway. We want them seas.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I could be wrong. It's one of them, yeah. No, it's the Baltic Sea. But I don't know who did it, and it seems like a real whodunit because I think the U.S. did it. And I bet they did it in a fucking cool way. I doubt.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Don't you say this now when they got it. I bet we did it like a fucking cool way like i doubt don't you say this no one they got i bet we did did it like a cool way i bet there were there were guys and with like cool futuristic suits or like speed stealth boats somebody got dropped it was a boring ass like drone torpedo there was no dude taping shit to it not even a torpedo right there's like a depth charge you just dump it over the side of any fucking boat some some pleasure cruise dump it over the side in the right spot. It sinks to the bottom and it breaks the pipeline. Yeah, notoriously not cool compared to a guy putting on a bunch of... And having one of those shark blades that shoots out air and going down there.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I think y'all are underplaying how difficult it is to destroy a $30 billion natural gas pipeline at the bottom of the sea. I think depth charge right next to the pipeline. Pretty big charge. That's not what depth charges do. Based on what I say. Then what do they do? Don't depth charges blow up next to things and hurt them?
Starting point is 01:02:55 Yeah. Submarines, I think they're meant for like submarines that are like going to bump into them, right? Or they go off at a certain depth. Dude, so water isn't compressed, so if I expand it nearby, it's almost like hitting you directly because you press on water
Starting point is 01:03:10 and you press on the sub. And all I need to do is blow up somewhere near the sub and the water pushes into it. All right. So let's realistically say that we're going to destroy this pipeline and we're the United States government.
Starting point is 01:03:21 We have all the means in the world. You'd use a depth turner. We're not going to use something that's meant for like anti-submarine warfare. What if we don't what if it doesn't work? What if we don't turn it just right? We got to hit this thing in three different places all separated. We need
Starting point is 01:03:34 three very specific boats with very specific minds. Why don't we send a guy down there with some plastic explosives and make sure he cuts a little hole in it. I mean, I like the idea of James Bond with a spear fishing gun doing it himself. That's hole in it. I mean, I like the idea of James Bond with a spear fishing gun doing it himself. That's what they did. I guarantee they sent James Bond down there with a spear fishing gun.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Maybe we have the shark man at the beginning with all of us Russians. Maybe we have him, yeah. Now it's making sense. Now see, it would be Operation Walrus Man on that part of the history. It's not as deep as
Starting point is 01:04:04 I thought it was. 80 to 110 meters at points, so someone could swim down there with the right equipment. And it's 12 millimeters thick? That's like... Yeah, but the thing is it doesn't sound like they made a little hole in it, right? It sounds like they destroyed it
Starting point is 01:04:19 in a way that makes it very difficult to repair. Or this wouldn't be a talk, right? They'd be like, ah, turn it off real quick. Send Yuri down there with the patch kit. Yeah, we're good. What is that fucking tape that stops leaks? Flex tape, right? Flex seal.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I set it up now with a can of flex seal. That's the next commercial. Him putting on his screw and going backwards into the fucking seal. We destroyed the Russian pipeline. No, the whole thing's fascinating i think there's some real like uh geopolitical james bond jason born shit going on every day throughout this thing there are movie plots happening every day like i just imagined what it would be like to be like behind those enemy lines in ukraine right now and want no part of it and be like afraid like on the run basically like what if you were like released from prison you cannot go back to russia but you don't want to get caught by the ukrainians because you probably end up back in prison so you've got
Starting point is 01:05:15 to like escape ukraine somehow i guarantee there's a guy out there right now trying to do that living on canned food and sneaking around like it's tarkov i i look forward to the movies that come out of this have on a different topic have you guys followed the try guys stuff at all i know there's a big controversy and something about somebody being gay maybe or or but but okay let me let me do you that's just me marie then tell me what happened uh so i think there were four try guys Now there's three. And one of the Try Guys cheated on his wife, but that's not the big thing, with an employee. Would it have been the Quad Guys before and now it's the Try Guys?
Starting point is 01:05:57 It's spelled T-R-Y, but I do like where your head is. So anyway, he's apparently had a consensual relationship at work with an employee. Now, he was one of the four founders. So there's a bit of a power imbalance in this relationship. But I haven't heard anyone say anything other than consensual relationship and adultery. But my issue is, why can't people fuck at work anymore? Let's take the adultery and push it to the side a little bit. Where is the crime here? But you can't fuck the people that work for you at all.
Starting point is 01:06:36 You know, I've never seen really doesn't know this. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. He brings it up all the time. And I'm like dude trust me this is how they do it it's very Silicon Valley it's a California company we're technically working for
Starting point is 01:06:51 we're in that scene now he's not here everyone listening do not clue him in on this alright him and Chiz have been trying to unionize we busted that up right away but more seriously like like i don't know i know i've argued on the other side of this i'm being hypocritical with garcia louis ck and the power imbalance thing but jesus christ you
Starting point is 01:07:24 really have to be like perfectly peers at work to fuck one another. I think that worked together at all. Where do you meet people? If you're a guy and then you work a lot, I think. Okay. So from my, because my girlfriend's been keeping up with all of it and like gives me
Starting point is 01:07:39 hourly updates. She's really into it from what it sounds like to me, the issue isn't so much the fact that he hooked up with an employee as it is against like their brand or like what they have set up. Because according to what I know, this try guy, the quad guys, Kyle referred to him,
Starting point is 01:07:57 um, was like a very wife loving, had his wife on the show all the time, uh, talked about how much he loved his family, like a very down to earth kind of guy. And then he had secretly been cheating on his wife with an employee who was cheating on her fiance. So outside of this whole family YouTube safe
Starting point is 01:08:20 aesthetic, there's a double affair happening over to the side. Can I ask this this why do we know why do we know all of this who was the rat who like dumped everybody's personal private alright so that's where it gets good the one who supposedly leaked all of this is that girl's fiance oh okay
Starting point is 01:08:38 makes sense get him bro they fucked you over yeah yeah so according to what I know she worked do you see how like my point of view completely changed yes it matters because it matters right oh okay exactly yeah i yeah no i've also been watching this and what i heard was that quad guy i think his name's ned um got caught kissing his co-worker in public and that's how it all oh you see you've heard that too so okay that was the kickoff and then that guy was like oh y'all don't even know and he like
Starting point is 01:09:13 but like fans saw him kissing yes that's the first incident okay a picture that yes my girlfriend popped in the door to tell me allegedlyedly rumor thank you She heard me outside She was like I have to give him the Speculation Thank you 100% So what happened is a couple months ago Again allegedly
Starting point is 01:09:40 She The two of them were out I think it was a concert and they were like making out. Someone took a picture of it and then sent that to the try guys and was like, Hey, they sent it back to them and said, Hey, this is a problem.
Starting point is 01:09:55 They're both cheating on like their spouse and soon to be spouse. This is an issue. And the try guy said, we're handling it. So a month goes by. And then someone sends that picture to Keemstar, supposedly the fiance of that woman.
Starting point is 01:10:11 So he's like, hey, Try Guys aren't doing anything about it. Let's make some noise on the internet. So he sends it to Keemstar. Keemstar outs it and everyone's like, is this real? As soon as that happens, Try Guys make a response. Ned is no longer working with us. He's out of the
Starting point is 01:10:25 picture can i say this i'm i'll let you finish please do no no i was just gonna say so it seems like the whistleblower and the one who got things going was the guy who was getting cheated on not true what it looks like not true because the the thing is when that information was presented to the try guys they instantly like outsourced an hr professional to come in and help them deal with this like what action should we be taking how do we get this guy and they had removed him from videos he wasn't making like this idea that a month went by and nothing happened isn't true a month went by and they didn't make public videos dogging on him but they were getting him out of the company that's wild that you get fired from the company for all right so what what's interesting so there's the four guys the quad guys and and um
Starting point is 01:11:12 the this one guy has has had this relationship but why does that make his three boys turn on him like like i get that what he's done is like a faux pas some people just what's considered despicable cheating on your fiance all that and above like whatever but we're in a business here like if this is a gravel company am i am i getting rid of big mike because he because he fucked a waitress who's like got like no i don't fucking care we got gravel to move we got basketballs to shoot from bridges we got ping pong balls to bounce off assholes like whatever theholes whatever the fuck you gotta look at it in perspective right their whole brand was like the family care and what not
Starting point is 01:11:50 what if tomorrow Taylor came in and he was like you know what I'm glad Kyle went to jail that'd be funny I am glad he went to jail I am glad he learned the funny things our views have been up ever since that's true I actually found the podcast from that I'm glad. He learned the funny things. Our views have been up ever since. That's true.
Starting point is 01:12:09 I actually found the podcast from that. Yeah. The funniest thing. Kyle, it's your sacrifice. The funniest thing Wings of Redemption has said in like a decade was when he said, I don't care that Kyle has cancer. It's hilarious. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:12:26 Because I'm sure somebody was like, Wings, what do you think about about how's cancer and they want to put him in that spot put him under your thumb like like all right yeah do the thing or thought say thoughts and prayers fatty and he's like i don't give a fuck if he's got cancer and i'm like that is the funniest thing he's ever said oh yeah it would have been even funnier if he had amplified it and been like i wish it was i hope he dies kind yeah yeah i hope it spreads stage one i'll gotta get those numbers up like that yeah i don't know i just stage one is that like defcon that's not good that's barely cancer commit like if if if like if we all worked in the same building right and we had that that that dynamic, that's a little different.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I'm picturing that right now. But I'm just imagining that one of us cheats on their sibling with an employee of ours. And I'm picturing we have some attractive intern who has a... And I just don't care. And he's like, Jack. I just don't care that if Taylor were to go off and do a thing that he would never normally do with one of our employees, I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think that you might be opening us up to some liability stuff. Y'all need to sign this sexual document, like, in the office, right?
Starting point is 01:13:35 We need to all be on the same page. And maybe we'll get an HR person who comes and makes it all. And we talk to both. I'm like, hey, look, I'm not judging anybody's lives here. But we're in a business. So let's make everything on the table. Like, everybody signs a piece of paper this isn't no sexual harassment or anything weird going on i do not care i don't care and i never fire taylor like like yeah because taylor works here not his wife frank i ask taylor if he wants to do bits on it
Starting point is 01:13:58 or not and move on yeah i'd be like yeah i guess so that'll lighten the pain and then i didn't know that's there is like i'm looking at their channel yeah so like their whole like family friendly thing that seems to be like huge for their marketing because like my initial videos yeah my first thought was like oh maybe these guys did that gut reaction overreact thing where three months from now they're like fuck i, I wish we had this guy back. But it really does look like their fan base is like ninety nine one aligned. Like this is not you said you were part of your family. You said you loved your wife. You said that like all that from what I've heard off what Woody said, like, oh, well, a month ago they didn't like kick him out.
Starting point is 01:14:40 According to them, he had been placed on sabbatical as soon as they found out. And they were like, all alright, we're going to do our investigation. We're going to start we're going to hold off on filming more videos with him until we figure this out. And then whenever it went into the news cycle, that's when they sped up on it.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Alright, you've swayed me over to your side because I'm thinking of it as four guys who shoot basketballs from bridges because that's my exposure to them. But if I think of them more like – what's Good Mythical Morning? Is that Rhett and Link? If I think of a dynamic like that where it's a very family-friendly Rhett and Link. If I imagine one of them doing something like this, it's like, oh, that would ruin it.
Starting point is 01:15:21 That would be it. Yeah. That would split the fan base. There would be people – everybody would think it was despicable like okay that makes more sense because if again i'm thinking of like four guys shooting basketballs but if their family's part of a thing and there's a whole dynamic then wow yeah wildly different than our brand here i suppose so yeah yeah taylor if you ever want me to hire an intern. Let me give it some thought. As soon as it left my lips,
Starting point is 01:15:53 what if Taylor wanted Kyle to go to jail? I was like, man, that'd be funny. That doesn't work. That'd be funny. Yeah. Something I wanted to talk, we talked about the JFKk thing a bit i like this is something like one of the conspiracy rabbit holes like i keep trying to go down but i can't
Starting point is 01:16:10 find anything good for it so like antarctica what the fuck is going on down there and why if you so like there there are military bases down there like lots of countries have military bases down there and if you show up in antarctica they will kill you they will shoot you in the head they'll like as you're like if you just start if you just take a boat to antarctica get off and start walking around they will kill you like you can i didn't know i did not know about this i didn't know about this at all and i was like what the fuck what What's going on? First of all, did you get that from a good source? I didn't know that. It came to me in a dream.
Starting point is 01:16:53 He's got my vote. That would be the worst source I could imagine. No, there's like this is like not like I saw some like the conspiratorial part is like, oh, there's something under the ice out there and there's like no there's like this is like not like i saw some like the the conspiratorial part is like oh there's a something under the ice out there and there's like an underground civilization or the remains of atlantis that kind of thing or whatever maybe not lantis maybe i'm
Starting point is 01:17:14 making that up maybe but like the part that's not really debated is like yeah you cannot go to an like you can't go there you they'll they'll shoot you yeah so uh i've heard of people i don't know if it's immediately they just execute you from what i've heard they're like leave get off um because you can't privately make your way to antarctica uh because there's like there's some weird treaty with antarctica it's called the i forget the word for essentially no nation can place ownership over it or like scientific research place ownership over it or place effect. It's all scientific research. I don't think there's any law.
Starting point is 01:17:50 That implies there's no law there, technically. I think they're going to have a hard time arresting me under any real powers. Maybe maritime law? I don't think it's illegal. I think it's a very gray area. They're just like, get out, essentially. They consider me a pirate if I grab my retarded Malamute and started sledding deep into the I think it's a very gray area. They're just like, get out, essentially. They consider me a pirate if I grab my
Starting point is 01:18:05 retarded Malamute and started sledding deep into the Antarctic center. You wouldn't be sledding deep. He's a big boy, god damn it. He is strong. He has the power of three normal dogs. He has three dog power. No loud noises, though.
Starting point is 01:18:28 The conspiracy around Antarctica begins with World War II. There was a German research base in Antarctica called Camp something sent with, I think, 20 men total to just like reconnoiter, investigate whatever the Germans were doing down there to check out their facilities. And whenever they got back, they were all given a gag order and the Medal of Honor. And that that's it. They were all given a gag order and the medal. All of them were given the Medal of Honor? They were placed on like a 48-hour debrief, if I recall correctly. They were ordered
Starting point is 01:19:17 to never speak about what they found, which that part's probably pretty standard to most military recon order operations. I think they stopped Hitler from being able to acquire alien technology down there, and they brought it home. Now we're on the right path.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I don't think Hitler personally made Antarctica. So my favorite conspiracy theory, the one that I crave to be real, is the ancient civilizations one. And when they lay out the timeline of the earth's life you're like oh shit this this one does kind of make a bit of sense right atlantis because we're like yeah we've only been here for such a short period of time
Starting point is 01:19:54 like our civilization like the last 6 000 years that we've actually recorded and can remember more or less and the the planet's been habitable and we've been humans like we are for a very long time. Like we could have easily peaked and like been like pyramid building and then lost that. And then 50,000 years went by. We went we resorted back to like hunter gathering people who don't even understand agriculture. And then we could have done it three or four times in the amount of time there there is. There's just no evidence for it. Right. And so that's when you got to look to places like like maybe antarctica maybe like like wasn't that a tropical place a long long time ago probably predating human um
Starting point is 01:20:35 humans but i know at some point it was like maybe close to where australia is over like enough millions of years all that shit's cyclical right with like because like where everything was one giant mega continent and then it broke up but for a long time antarctica was more of a tropical thing like like in the australia area ish if there was something that like changed in elevation we would have found that under the seas by now or no because i guess that we really haven't been i don't think we've charted the seas very well what do you mean by change in elevation like if there was like if it was like oh there was this atlanta that's the only one i know so i keep saying atlantis oh it used to be here and then water levels changed a million years ago and now it's deep under the sea or something
Starting point is 01:21:17 that's actually fairly common um not just in like ancient civilizations, like the Greek city of man. I know all this stuff until I'm asked about it. There's a Greek city near the coast. That was like the sprawling landscape that was flooded in. I forget when that's supposedly the inspiration for stories of Atlantis. There's also one off the coast of what's the country that gets hit by tsunamis all the time? It's not Japan, Southeast Asia. I think Indonesia. There was a city that was built in like the 12, 1300s that had gone completely underwater. And what was wild is a couple of years ago when they
Starting point is 01:21:59 got hit with their last tsunami, this place has been underwater for hundreds of years. When the water drew back before the wave for the first time, the entire city, like this underwater city with these statues and buildings, the footage of it's wild.
Starting point is 01:22:13 It's really cool. I'm fascinated by that. The people took the footage for having a terrible time. I really like the idea of ancient forgotten technologies that might differ from ours greatly enough
Starting point is 01:22:24 that they would be cool and interesting and maybe something could be discoverable. I think that Baghdad battery shit is bullshit. I don't give a god damn. It was probably a sex toy. They were putting that thing on somebody's clit to make it work. I don't know what that is. They found these primitive
Starting point is 01:22:39 makeshift batteries. It's like a clay pot with, I think you got an acidic solution and maybe a copper tube or something like that and and maybe there's another metal that's involved but in any case it's it could form an ancient battery you can make an electrical charge and uh but but they're not powering laptops back then that thing they're they're fucking like sticking their dicks in it because it feels weird they're shocking each other for fun yeah i i that's probably like a i could imagine a a religious ritual where they use science to like reinforce religion the way that uh remember in um what's that awesome mel gibson movie um the apocalypto when the they know
Starting point is 01:23:19 the eclipse is coming and the priest kind of looks over at the head honcho like yeah it's coming and and by priest he's like an he's an astronomer like from a thousand years ago and he's just like here it comes and so the king is like the sun disappears and they're like holy shit the boss and then he's like and come back like as soon as the priest gives him the go-ahead nod for that and it's like you can imagine how you're gonna get in line for a man who does something like that like like a guy who can make the sun like like disappear and come back the oh yeah like that's magic someone knowing that that that the sun is going they wouldn't even think of it that way they'd never take that extra leap like because how could you know it was coming right unless you understood astronomy yeah no i like that a lot like the idea of lost civilizations and uh and that stuff just being
Starting point is 01:24:10 eaten by the the you know the the um the ravages of time well yeah the um the way the the earth's crust goes under itself and just gets eaten over and over until there's there's no it's just gone it's gone it is wild to think about buried cities. We build civilization on top of civilization. Think of everything that's sunk underneath. Concepts of sunken cities from old... Not like
Starting point is 01:24:36 in the ocean. The land gave way and there's these underground caverns. Have you seen the Graham Hancock stuff about the Gobleki Tepe place in Turkey? I've heard of it, and it's supposed to be like a super old civilization, or some people theorize that. Yeah, that Graham Hancock guy, he's been on Rogan a bunch of times.
Starting point is 01:24:56 I read his books. They're good. But he thinks that a comet came and melted a gigantic, like flash melted a huge ice cap and flooded out this ancient civilization that existed like 10 or 20 000 years ago in turkey that because and they found this huge um you know structure that was built there and people should have been like hunter gatherers with stone tools back then and instead you you would have had to have like a civilization because somebody's got to be hunting and gathering to get extra food so that you can have artisans who could even make something you know like that and supposedly we're gonna need agriculture so that's that's an interesting
Starting point is 01:25:33 one um i don't know i like that stuff a lot i like i like lost mysteries and oh the other one i really like is uh the idea of life being on one of the moons of Saturn or Jupiter maybe. What's the one everyone says is super habitable? Titan maybe? I think Titan. There's a movie about Europa. What is it called? I think it's Titan.
Starting point is 01:26:00 I think Titan's the one everyone says is almost habitable. I don't want to live on any of them and no no no no no it's it's a couple kilometers of ice at least and then and then but then you've got a yeah that's habitable but you've got a warm ocean briefly anything's habitable for a small amount of time i think that like the most ambitious scientists think that there's probably like some amoebas or some like bacteria
Starting point is 01:26:26 down there that feeds off of thermal activity but I really want to be like mermaids I need something with hands for me to really care like something that made tools if I get there and the fish has hands I'm going back
Starting point is 01:26:42 yeah well that would just confirm. It's like, oh, so somebody had a nuclear apocalypse here a long time ago. And now all the fish are peeling their kelp. I couldn't think of anything they would do with hands. Seems like a bad idea. I've been looking at a bunch of weird sci-fi. I wanted a new sci-fi book, so I've been watching YouTube videos about
Starting point is 01:27:08 various sci-fi authors. It might be an Isaac Asimov. I don't know who wrote this one, but the premise is that aliens come to Earth and they just sort of hover over us. We do try to attack them, but it bounces off and they're like, chill, listen, we're here to help.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Our boss has sent us here to get you guys up to speed you're gonna join the galactic federation can't look at us though we're rough looking okay we're gonna we're gonna hang out here for a while when you get used to us you know our ships and then communicating with us then we'll reveal ourselves and that goes on for like many years like 10 20 i don't know how many like call it 10 15 years and sure enough they've really enriched humanity like technology's better culture's better everything's better and uh and they're like all right it's time chill though right and they like step out of their craft and they literally look like the devil
Starting point is 01:27:59 they literally look like the devil like horns and pointy tails and pointy teeth and claws. But there's no twist. Yeah, they're just nice. They really are these ambivalent, nice people. They're like, don't be scared. We know that a lot of people get scared of us and all. I'm Mark. This is my husband, Alan.
Starting point is 01:28:23 And it's like, oh, they're positive. this is my my my husband alan and it's like oh they're like i i've been looking for a new one to to read uh it's that or hell divers i i kind of want to go back to the hell diver series oh that's the one where that's the yeah the average life is 10 jumps and this guy's on jump 95 and he's hard yeah i remember yeah the earth's all poisoned and we live in the sky on a hover ship. Yeah, those books are fun. I want to read a book about Antarctica. I don't care if it is 100% whole cloth made up.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Like, I just... It would be fun. It's a fun story. Yeah, just start off with something kind of fun where it's like the Nazis left and then just make it up. Yep.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Who cares? Just have a good time. That's all that matters. That's what matters about all these theories, that you're having a fun time. Exactly. The funnest part about it is there was a second Operation High Jump,
Starting point is 01:29:12 if I remember, like in the 60s or the 70s, when a group supposedly went to Antarctica. One of the funnest theories is that they took cameras there and had this broken footage of plant life they discovered and a civilization of people under the ice.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Love it. Fantastic. I believe it. Don't need any further information. I want to believe it. We're all living under the ice. I want to be one of them. Because our existence is a little boring at times, right?
Starting point is 01:29:42 The stuff that happens in movies is so dynamic and big and earth changing and nothing really big has ever happened in our lifetime. It's not really. Like, even to us, it doesn't feel real, you know? But I want something that's so big that even if you're not touched by it, it feels big. Like, I want to discover some aliens
Starting point is 01:29:58 or do a thing, right? It seems like it'd have to be aliens, right? Like, what else could it be? I do want, or one of those lost civilizations. I want to find some mole people under Antarctica, and they've been under there for like 80,000 years, and their technology is way better
Starting point is 01:30:13 than ours. Or way worse. But they're mole people, so we just beat the fuck out of them. I can't wait to kill it! Yeah! Aliens show up, and they're like peddling, and we're like cool stuff has happened in my lifetime the internet comes to mind and another thing i think is neat is like voice to text and translation i could literally have a conversation with someone
Starting point is 01:30:37 who only speaks japanese in near real time where it just translates his voice to english and mine to japanese back and forth. That technology exists. That is Tower of Babel stands tall. And it was total science fiction. That kind of translator, it was Star Trek shit until sometime it evolved.
Starting point is 01:30:58 But because it's incremental, because we had it in 1995, but it sucked. And then we had it in 2005 and it pretty sucked. And we had it in 2015 1995 but it sucked and then we had it in 2005 and it pretty sucked and we had it in 2015 and it you know and then 2022 comes along and you're like yeah it kind of works now just piece by piece it's not the same it's not a technology i need to start seeing laser weapons i want some flying cars i want elon musk to do something cool twitter because they made his ass buy it can't wait that
Starting point is 01:31:25 is that is so fucking funny how that went like i someone correct me if i'm wrong but is what happened he's like i'll buy twitter ridiculously overvalued like and then they're like okay i like money like the board and so they're like all right you know here's what you got to do and then he's like i don't want to do that no due diligence no outs no nothing i'm in fucking 100 full throttle they're like we'll sign here and and they're like all right yeah let's he signs and then he's like wait a minute i think that uh bullshit excuse but you know i don't know this thing doesn't smell right i think this minor thing it's not what i expected it to be. What you said, no outs. You said you were going to waive due diligence.
Starting point is 01:32:11 So now, you have to buy it. He was going to have to go to court in a week or two. He was going to have to pay $10 billion to not own Twitter because of some violation in the agreement and so
Starting point is 01:32:25 at that point it's just like well i guess i'll just buy twitter like i mean come on bring trump back man let's let trump get back to his bang that's the first thing i said that's the first thing i said i looked at somebody i went do you know what this means he's coming back he's coming back and he's got two years of jokes you know what i want in his notes here's his first tweet i need to front hire me i'll get you back in the white house first tweet first tweet i come to you at the turning of the tide you fucking rip off lord of the rings you go you go gandalf you go trump the white with the whole thing i think i've come up with this idea before. Is it possible
Starting point is 01:33:05 I was high on a previous episode? I think I'm doing... I think Trump the White is not an... It's my idea, but I don't think it's the first time I've come up with it. You go Trump the White, he comes to you at the turning of the tide. Oh yeah, he's got some good posts ready in the barrel.
Starting point is 01:33:21 And lean into the dark Brandon stuff. Dress him up like Palpatine with the cloak and the dark eyes keep showing him with them kids because he's grabbing kids left and right in florida y'all get your cameras out okay like he's down there right now grabbing kids just we i can only find i found two pictures and both of them he had a one his arm around a woman and both of them he's dope biden's are fucking awesome. Everyone's like, look at Hunter Biden, the sex head with all these whores having a three-way. And I'm like, I just wish the videography was better. I like that they call him the big guy
Starting point is 01:33:54 when they're referring to him in those emails or whatever. Yeah, they do. Aviators and his Trans Am. He's the big guy. You think they call him that to his face? Like, hey, big guy. I don't know. It's a little tainted now.
Starting point is 01:34:10 I'm not sure. Or is he Big Daddy? Oh, I like that. Kyle, that's... You had a big weekend planned last weekend. How did it go? Oh, am I wrong? I thought that was when you were going on your motorcycle adventure.
Starting point is 01:34:28 That was a Wednesday. Yeah, yeah. That was just before the last show. It went well. That was the night we – did I show you her axe throwing videos? No. You said you went axe throwing. You talked to us about axe throwing and said it went okay.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Yeah, yeah. So we went to Winston-Salem for like an overnight i call up the sexcation and uh and it was dude i've got there's an i have sex subreddit where people brag about their little escapades and everyone's like so we're all having sex shut the fuck up stop acting like it's special but um uh it was a blast. We had a good time. I got a better room than I normally spring for. And we went out on the town. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:13 The goal was like live music and some food and shit like that. And then we got there and it was empty. So we just started like, I don't know. We walked around. She spotted axe throwing. So we did that. That was one of the highlights of the night. We walked around. She spotted axe throwing, so we did that. That was one of the highlights of the night. We broke diet. I got
Starting point is 01:35:27 coconut cake, which I liked a lot. Just lots of good times. I know y'all are both recovering and stuff from various bumps and bruises that you've gotten along the way. Another good place that I think would be a fun date
Starting point is 01:35:44 to ride to is Nashville. there's so much music there uh last time i was either in memphis or nashville where um me and my date went like this little downtown area and they were like the streets were like cordoned off and it was like a party in the streets there were like performers in the street like singing and dancing and then you walked a little further and they were like doing coordinated dance routines you walk a little further and they're just out there singing when the live music's in the street it's pouring out of the restaurants i agree a thousand percent on the nashville recommendation i've been to that city once i think i was with you at the time it was the time we did that arkansas shooting thing and um that is that is that nashville or memphis there's no telling this is on the border so i
Starting point is 01:36:28 get them mixed up it's right on the border with arkansas i saw yeah maybe i'm mixing them up but uh i i do think i've been to nashville i liked it it's it's high on my list of places to go we're kind of working our way out uh winston-salem was 90 minutes away which is part of its draw that's like a walkable city that's an hour and a half from here and we we'll figure that out. Charlotte's three hours away. I think that's our next destination. You know, a little longer bike ride, a little bigger city, see how we like it. And Nashville, I don't know, it might be seven or eight hours. It's, it was, it's be a lot for a first trip. Yeah. Yeah. That might be a two stage ride or something like that. But, but then, you know, you get up there in Tennessee when when those and those curvy roads that might not be beginner stuff um it's not i mean i haven't done it i don't want
Starting point is 01:37:09 to do it i'm afraid of it i live so close to it i'm not concerned about curvy roads i like them but um uh what so i've talked about this a little bit but i'll go off a mountain i like like i'll go into how is that worse than a tree sometimes i go into a curb and i'm like 95 sure i'm good but i'm like if i come off this thing we're sliding out into that soybean field hell it'll feel good but like you go off one of those roads up there like driving in the smokies then there's some places where the guardrail is not very good or non-existent and you just kind of i like it's not like indiana jones you don't fall into oblivion but hundreds of feet tumbling down a mountain i look at it a little differently like um so i look at where the fun is in at this speed there are places in colorado where the turns are
Starting point is 01:38:01 such that like fun at at my skill skill, a skill level, which we'll call medium or something is around 90 miles an hour. So if I take this turn at 60, it's an absolute boring fast. And if I take it at one 20, it's too fast for my skill level, but somewhere around 90, I'm having a good time. I feel the G's yet. I also feel safe out here at like tail the dragon and like these Northern georgia western north carolina places the fun is at 25 miles an hour you know any faster than that and it's above my skill level on some of these turns these are huge elevation changes really sharp hairpin mountain switchbacks those are the scary ones the elevation change stuff to me if the fun is at 25 miles an hour
Starting point is 01:38:43 then the danger is lower that's my take on it but who knows yeah you make a lot of sense i i just i i think about when i think when i picture it i just think to those places that don't have a guardrail because as a kid when we'd go up there my dad would be driving you know i'm not in control of the car so it's scary you're peering over like i'm in the back of a van like oh no i hope i hope daddy doesn't get the shakes or something up there or we're all dead like looney tunes style um because i don't think i'd ever seen a road that like you go off the road you just die um there's a the road system in america is great okay like once you get off the interstate highway system, which is,
Starting point is 01:39:26 the interstate highway system is incredibly efficient. It'll get you where you want to go. But if you want to see some shit and you get off that, there's some really cool stuff. Like, when you're in New Mexico, there's just shooting ranges on the side of the road. Like, you're driving and you look over and there's targets in
Starting point is 01:39:42 a field. Dare to be shot. Pull over and get's targets in a field there to be shot. Pull over and get out. Get to it. Like, like, like, like, like, like there's it's just that wide open. And it's that sort of like lifestyle there where there's just random shooting ranges on the side of the road. And we'd be like, hey, let's get out and shoot. Get out and shoot is in the middle of a drive. It's fun to go out and experience the real place that you're at.
Starting point is 01:40:07 I got lunch in Illinois a few weeks ago. God, it felt so Illinois. It's hard to put that into words, but just the nature of the people around, everybody that I ate with was from within six miles of that restaurant. It was very local. People don't travel to go to this place. I just dig it. I like that experience. I've very local. People don't travel to go to this place. I just
Starting point is 01:40:26 dig it. I like that experience. I've had a similar one in Nebraska. I like getting off the beaten path. I always did my best. It would be my turn to not drive, and I'd get on my phone and plan lunch or dinner because I don't want it to be McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:40:42 We're not going to do McDonald's 18 times on this trip. If we have to grab some food in the morning and we're hustling, let's get some biscuits and go. But if we're stopping for lunch anywhere in this 200-mile stretch, I'm going to pick out something authentic that's off the road a little bit. And I did that as much as I could. And sometimes it went well and sometimes it didn't.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Yeah, I value someone who can do that competently. And like you said, if you get something different, they're not all going to be a pluses but uh yeah just like hey this is the track we're taking find something cool in an 80 mile stretch there should be something i downloaded dayport noise uh one bite app the other day i don't know i don't think i know about um so you know he's the one bite pizza review guy the the varsity sports guy um and he's got like a pizza app that'll show you like pizza scores in your area like right around you like a like it's a dating app and it'll even like highlight the ones where he's given his own personal rating and it's not just user generated so it's a little bit like rotten tomatoes for pizza for pizza with geolocation. I got on there because I've been watching a bunch of his reviews lately.
Starting point is 01:41:48 I don't know why. YouTube keeps feeding them to me. I was like, are there any good places in Atlanta? Sure enough, there's one that was like, he gave it a really high rating and I ate it. It was awful. It was fucking great. There was so much garlic that
Starting point is 01:42:03 I think I ate one slice of this. It wasn't overly expensive, but it looked like it would be great if it weren't just piled high with minced garlic. And then I went and watched the review again and he was complaining about the garlic. Fuck. Well, you gotta try again.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Find a 5 or 10 out of 10. Are you a pizza snob at all or you just not give a fuck if it's if somebody's ordering pizza do you even care where they order it from not really i'll eat whatever like i'll eat any pizza i don't see i'm a snob about it if i'm gonna eat pizza then i want it to be really thin and i want to be as healthy as we can get it right i usually do like just cheese usually like I don't do toppings anymore oh no I'm going bananas like thickest bread like bananas you want a Detroit style pan thing banana peppers aren't bad but not as good as I love toppings I
Starting point is 01:42:59 just don't want them on there I want cheese on there I want to taste the sauce the cheese and the bread I want more of a pure experience I I'm in that kind of phase of my life. You don't want pepperoni? Italian sausage? Done it to death. No more. Pepperoni is so done to death. Please.
Starting point is 01:43:12 It's a classic for a reason. Here's what I will do. The basic pitch of pizzas. There's a reason for it. Everybody, you go to a pizza party, they get cheese for people who are picky, and then pepperoni for normal people. This is like arguing Big Macs are the height of burger cuisine. They're not.
Starting point is 01:43:29 Just because they're popular doesn't make them good. It doesn't have to be expensive to be good. You bougie fucks. I just said vary it up a little bit. Look at the chef's signature pizzas out there. Maybe you'll find something. You guys enjoy your black truffle oil pizza. I'm going to enjoy pepperoni like a red blooded,
Starting point is 01:43:52 like a high cholesterol American. I'll get pineapple and jalapenos. I like that. It's like sweet and spicy. I'll do that. I like that a lot. Or I'll get like extra cheese and extra sauce. I will do what I say.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Pineapple and jalapeno is a good mix. Really good combo. Imagine. Get a little protein. I do look at the chef ones. They have their own combos that they suggest. It's like the Tony Soprano.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Yeah. I don't eat pizza really i it's probably been three years three years maybe since i've had a slice of pizza um it's just generally i find it i like it but as far as like how many calories are in a pizza the risk reward isn't the right term but like you know the calories to the to the joy that ratio is not there for me so i'm able to yeah you need a you need a graph right where it's like calories on one side and pleasure on the other and then you're like oh this is grading it below the magic line for me look at oh no pizza will make you fat like seriously pizza just fucking fat and carbs carbs are sugar right so
Starting point is 01:45:07 it's sugar and fat that's what you're having it's great yeah have trail mix if you want that and there's so and the other thing it'll like there's so many so much sodium in there like with all the meats the like the pepperoni like you know pepperoni is awful for you as a kid like i think i like things that tasted like really strong like those sour candies and stuff and like one of my favorite things was those cheap ass little packages of pepperonis that you could buy at the grocery store like if those were in the fridge from like we would make a lot of pizzas as kids like it was like i don't know we all make a little pizza or whatever and i would wake up in the middle of the night like
Starting point is 01:45:43 eight-year-old me nine-year-old me and fucking eating those uh eating those pepperonis is your your go-to is really jalapeno and pineapple my go-to is cheap it's pretty pretty clear i want a thin crust like like it doesn't have to be this big floppy motherfucker i want it to have some crunch i like it to be a little blackened on the bottom. I like it to be crunchy. I like a tomato pie where there's not even the cheese is under the tomato. I appreciate what you're laying out, Kyle. If I am going to sin,
Starting point is 01:46:14 I'm not going to sin a little. Right? I'm going to go fucking cocaine and whores into my pizza and get that cheesy crust. That's where it's at. Yes. It's a high IQ maneuver. Like if you're going in,
Starting point is 01:46:27 if you're going in, cocaine and horse, my, all right. So here's the, I like, I like where you're heading with this, but the problem is if you're getting,
Starting point is 01:46:36 if you're getting stuffed crust, then that means you're getting like, you know, fast food level pizza to begin with. So what I would recommend is getting like, I like the thicker crust. If I don't care about calories, then what I like is a Detroit style or a Chicago style,
Starting point is 01:46:51 like a thick, cakey, caramelized on the bottom, buttery pizza that's like somewhere between lasagna and actual pizza. But I'm actually going to eat like slices of pizza. It's going to be like thin crust with cheese. That's what I want. Yeah. Wendigo and if you have your your druthers is it it's jalapeno and pineapple or what's your i love how you're still hung up on this it's great um i think i'm with i'm with kyle that i normally just eat like cheese maybe pepperoni or what have you but my girlfriend put
Starting point is 01:47:21 me on to jalapeno and pineapple pizza, and it's pretty good. So I am pretty consistently on that train. I know it sounds horrible. I said the same thing. I was like, get out of my house. What are you talking about? And then I tried it. I was like, this is a good vibe.
Starting point is 01:47:35 It's a really good vibe. I used to have pepperoni, too, by the way. Pepperoni pizza guy. And then he found a girl that's jalapeno and pineapple. He's marrying up. Right enough. That's how it works. and i'm just a lower caste i can't use the same facilities
Starting point is 01:47:52 i'm discriminated against for being low class i did go through a phase for a long time pepperoni and jalapeno and that was my always go-to. Jalapeno is a slept on topic. It's one of my favorites in everything. Black olives are better than people say. No, but I like olives. They have a really strong flavor. And I don't know.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Sometimes it's overpowering, even on like a supreme pizza, where it's like peppers and onions and so much stuff. And I just taste olive. The only thing I totally like olive on. Did you ever have those? supreme pizza where it's like peppers and onions and so much stuff and i just taste olive the only thing i totally like olive on did you ever have those um do you like schlotzky's little sandwich place i know one of those it's never they're like they're like classic combo is this ham sandwich that has olive paste on it which sounds disgusting but it's like addictively good somehow i remember my mom was in the hospital for something pretty serious.
Starting point is 01:48:47 There was a surgery or maybe cancer or something at the time. And so a couple of weeks were going by and there was a Schlotz. He's like right next to the hospital that I would eat lunch to when I was like hanging out with her visiting. And I got addicted to those things when I was like 15 or 16. I was like, I want a Schlotz. He's near me so bad as it was just like olive paste. Why don't we know? Why don't we know about this stuff? Yeah, there should be an olive
Starting point is 01:49:10 paste. It's the most disgusting thing I've ever tasted. They've got their own olive paste or something. You can't get it. It's like that Szechuan sauce. It's a whole fucking thing. Oh, yeah. Their version is all MSG'd up. That is not olive paste. What are you talking about? That is not the Schlotzky's
Starting point is 01:49:25 classic that I'm thinking about. There's au jus that comes with that motherfucker. I see mushrooms. That looks fantastic. But... What was all of that? It's in flatbread. I'm still fucking hungry. What a place.
Starting point is 01:49:42 I'm glad someone heard my joke. That's what I said. I was like, that's an infection. I was looking at the cheese. I guess you were looking at the roast beef. Not good either way. What is olive paste? Is it like black toothpaste?
Starting point is 01:49:58 I can't imagine what that would... It was like a spreadable olive paste. It was dark and it was tasty. I just remember wanting to know why that sandwich was so good and looking into it. I don't usually dissect my food. Whenever I see somebody do that, it kind of freaks me out.
Starting point is 01:50:16 When I see somebody dissecting their food at the table... It's like serial killer behavior. Wait, dissecting? What do you mean? You gotta put stuff on your burger. No, no, no. They're going to work over there they're really like picking this thing apart and like like a very Patrick Bateman-esque like what am I
Starting point is 01:50:34 eating like yeah that's all yeah black toothpaste I'm right it looks like caviar you know what it looks like it looks like a much tastier food which is fig paste is that what's inside of fig newton yeah i think so i don't like those crunchy seeds in my teeth you know what's you know what's slept on is apple
Starting point is 01:50:56 newtons apple newtons there's apple you've never heard exactly there's apple newtons instead of those crunchy disgusting fig, they just take some apple goo and put it in there. You've definitely had a bad experience with fig newtons because no part of it's supposed to be crunchy. Those little seeds are like... There are little seeds. Oh, I don't mind
Starting point is 01:51:18 those. I do. I don't think I would like the sharper tang of the apple. My mind's open. I'll try it. Yeah, I'll try any dessert. I'm not picky. You put a cookie in front of me. Oh, cake, rebel cop.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Yeah. They tell me that there is a cookie and there was. I was thinking about your meat smoking the other day. I have a suggestion. Why don't you kill yourself an animal this winter and smoke it? I don't know what there is in St. Louis besides deer.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Smoked venison is probably a good thing. Maybe there's deer. They're homeless. They're probably gamey. I don't know. They're probably gamey. I don't know. They're probably gamey. They probably are.
Starting point is 01:52:10 They're running around all the time. They've got sinewy muscles. I want like a veal homeless guy. A guy who's stuck in his spot. He's not moving. It sounds kind of shitty, but I haven't thought about that before. If you shoot a baby deer, is that tastier? It could be. I'll try.
Starting point is 01:52:30 Is that like the veal of deer? I haven't killed a deer in like seven years. If anything, they'd be more gamey, right? I always heard that the thing that makes them gamey is the rush of adrenaline from the like you've you've hit them and they're running away i've heard that i don't know if that's true i think it's more of a lean to fat meat ratio if i had okay it's interesting that makes sense too because i've heard rabbit and it can be very gamey right yeah the lean and they're incredibly lean so maybe that's it i always liked venison uh we would eat cube steak tons of jerky and uh and more that's about it that's
Starting point is 01:53:07 about all we ever did because ground venison is so lean that you need to add some other fat to it and it's like we're just that's a burger with extra steps like yeah right steak out of like backstrap and tenderloin from deer is uh well we went hunting one time and we shot it. Walked it a couple a few hundred feet over where we were camped and made steak out of it there. Some of the best meat I've ever had. That stuff is so good. It is good. Everybody's complaining about the price
Starting point is 01:53:37 of meat. I should kill a deer this year. That's a good idea. I've asked this question before. It still bumps around in my head though. Can you save money by killing your own animals? A thousand percent. Okay. Nowadays.
Starting point is 01:53:50 So if you process it yourself, you're printing money. You could, you're a butcher. Now, if you want to go into business, like you're, you're,
Starting point is 01:53:57 you're printing money now. Um, cause it's hard. Or do you like someone figured out in a deer or two to butcher? You I've seen, I learned, I learned it in a day. two to butcher you i've seen i learned i learned it in a day i mean it's not that bad so um we would always pay we would take it's called getting them processed and there's this smell that you it's it's that blood smell it's that metallic smell that's in those places and and you'd go in there'll be dozens of deer upside down drained
Starting point is 01:54:24 out and in various um it looks like a serial killer's there because some of them are like just split open some of them are skinned some of them have their heads cut off like all kinds of horrific shit and when you're when you're 12 it's it's a little jarring because everybody's on hooks yeah um but if you do that yourself you know and it can get get out because I think it's like 150 bucks or something. I don't remember exactly. Um, we did it rarely. Like we might kill dozens of deer in a year, but we get one deer process so that we, cause
Starting point is 01:54:56 that's enough meat for all year. Cause we're not living on the shit. You know, we eat it every occasionally. I mean, anyone can like clean a deer badly. Like, like you could, you could puncture an organ and all that. Like,
Starting point is 01:55:09 like I would think that it comes down, like, have you ever seen those tuna guys that with the super sharp knives, they're like super quick. And like, they're making what are clearly like practiced muscle memory, like trained strokes. Like if I,
Starting point is 01:55:20 I don't want to go too far to the left or I'll leave meat here, this and that. Like, that's what like a butchered, my grandpa before he died and my grandpa could like process meat like nobody's business like it was his job he was a butcher so like um do you have a weak stomach oh like if the dog like shits in the floor and you got to pick it up does that ever make you gag is that the sort of thing that would make you gag i'm asking what are you oh i'm sorry not anymore yeah shut up so my experience with cleaning a deer, my dad, I don't know why,
Starting point is 01:55:49 but he wanted to teach me at some point. And man, I was gagging. And there's the smell of the intro. He didn't pop the organs or entrails, but just the smell of a disemboweled deer, even if you don't break anything. I can't describe the smell. You just have to experience it yourself it's not stink it's just man i'm being bathed with a very gross aura of goo right now and then and and you know the organs do not look good to look at they're all
Starting point is 01:56:18 they're all gross and multi-colored pounds of meat do you get from an average deer that's a google search i i have no idea we would get multiple like packages like like an arm full of meat but i'm not even sure if we were keeping all the meat i think we were asking for like specific cuts if you're keeping all the stuff it's like maybe got some silver skin on it you're probably at least what pounds. Google says 52 pounds average. That's a big deer. 52.19 is what it says. That is a huge deer. That's a northern deer.
Starting point is 01:56:53 I did look for average, but I'll trust you on that. I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm used to our little white tail, our little cutie pies. Make it 30 or something. 30 pounds of any other meat is really expensive like that's how much is 30 pounds of steak uh stick well filet mignon is like 25 to 27 it's 27.99 a pound for filet mignon here um ground beef is about 8 to 11 depending on how fancy you want it
Starting point is 01:57:21 to be sirloin steaks are like, what, like $12? You're looking over $500, what, $700? You get hundreds of dollars. Yeah, if you value it at $15, because it's venison, not filet mignon, then it's $300 worth. That seems like a fair amount of money to save. Yeah, you could feed your family like that easily.
Starting point is 01:57:42 You could make that your meat. I asked about this online, and they're like, no no you don't really save money like you can kid yourself you can lie to yourself like you save money catching fish but you don't the cheapest fish are at the stores what you spend in rods and boats and this and that and the other thing yeah so okay yeah like you need basic stuff to kill a deer. You don't need camouflage. You need a license. You need a license and you probably need a deer gun. One that's wooden with a bolt action that costs $250.
Starting point is 01:58:14 That's not fun. You overkill. You America judicial system that deer. You bring out super long range gun, needlessly accurate you know some in my way I just want there to be four
Starting point is 01:58:27 I just want there to be four smoking feet 16 pounds of meat on it after I shoot it you take your bucket and just pick up the meat you want and go home it's like can you save money I bet you can do you save money I bet it's rare you take your bucket just pick up the meat you want and go home stew meat it's like can you save money I bet you can do you save money I bet it's rare
Starting point is 01:58:49 I bet the people who hunt deer are hobbyists and they're dressed in their $600 uniform with their $45 potions and their $7000 well I'm exaggerating $700 guns no I feel you it's a little bit of both I'm sure there's guys that go full hog.
Starting point is 01:59:06 I know my fucking Dan Tanner, the guy who invented Tanner, right up there in the Northeast, wherever, um, he goes out on a hike and kills an elk and like packs up the meat, like a hundred pounds at a time or something and packs it back home. And then comes back for more in
Starting point is 01:59:25 mountain lion territory and it's like that dude's doing it for real and he's a billionaire yeah he's just in it for the love of the game yeah um he's one of the more interesting people ever met that when we went up to his little man cave and he had a 50 cow with a suppressor on on it that aimed out of double swing windows at a bear feeder like ah this you've got it figured out you can get up he's drunk playing pool and he's ready to shoot yogi with a baron and that's that's like just not very sporty his wife his wife gave birth the day before but he'd already invited us on this trip. And we had driven from Georgia to the other corner of the United States.
Starting point is 02:00:09 And he was kind enough to see us, even though brand new baby. The mother-in-law is there. And she's like, you're out there with your friends? Because that's what she sees. She's like, this is a newborn baby. You can't even have strangers around it in the house. It's a brand new baby. Meanwhile, he's at the oven is a newborn baby. You can't even have strangers around it in the house. It's a brand new baby. Meanwhile, he's at the oven
Starting point is 02:00:27 with a frying pan. You guys want any placenta? He invited us in. Oh my God. Are you joking? Have I told you about the placenta already? He had the placenta right there. I swear to God, he had the placenta in a garbage bag in the back of his truck. You know how guys hang around in the back of a pickup
Starting point is 02:00:43 truck, kind of hanging over the rail and everybody leaning on not even like a pyrex or something it was no he's using his bear bait that night he's using he's using afterbirth and placenta or whatever as bear bait which i was i was like won't that give him a taste for human flesh and he's like ah they're not gonna survive don't live long enough to tell the tale of human flesh meanwhile there's a fucking placenta loaded with tannerite and a feeder i'm saying this isn't sporting but no he was a real guy we um we set off like he gave i don't know how many hundreds of pounds he gave me to like shoot off at once we just filled up a giant drum of it it's probably in the video title let's call it 300 pounds but um it shattered all these windows out of this fairly nice cabin that was with obviously with an earshot away and i didn't feel responsible because i'd been invited to this
Starting point is 02:01:36 mountaintop to do this thing you know it's like i'm like hey could we shoot a video where we shoot a bunch of tannerite obviously it, it's essentially free to you. You create it right here. Yeah, absolutely. We'll go up here. Okay. I didn't set all this up. They did it. So I didn't feel responsible for it.
Starting point is 02:01:51 And I was like, I don't feel responsible for it. But someone should be. And I think Dan may have paid for those windows because that shit wasn't on me. It was on him. That was on you. You are describing a mythical person. This is insane. He's also the rocker.
Starting point is 02:02:10 No, he's a real nice, he's a big man too. I would say, I would call him 6'4", 245, 250, and powerful. Like a very physically imposing guy. Out of 10. What? What do you mean? Out of 10. Attractive.
Starting point is 02:02:27 Oh. I honestly can't picture his face if I'm being honest. That's not really what I'm looking at anyway. It was covered in all the bear bits. Did he have a belly? A big guy? You know, a big guy?
Starting point is 02:02:42 The picture of a guy with a.50 cal pointed at a bear feeder. Is he looking for a 49-year-old male sugar baby? Just asking for a friend. This is funnier in my head because I'm imagining the.50 cal like 30 yards from where this is. It was! It was!
Starting point is 02:02:59 No, 100%. 100% it was. Really? Exactly. That's exactly what it was. It was right there in the front yard where it was aimed at. Like, it was close enough that you could have done it with a bow. Like, hit it with a rock.
Starting point is 02:03:12 He was baiting bears into the yard. The game warden has nightmares about this man. That's his business. We were like up on a mountain past security gate. Oh, I'm not saying he shouldn't be left. I'm saying they hate him for it. Absolutely. There's placenta on there.
Starting point is 02:03:29 Better check out the Johnson place. I don't know if it was the first time I met Kyle. Probably not. But I met Kyle at Wings of Redemption's house one time. And he brought some tannerite. It was a long time ago. And he brought some tannerite and it was a long time ago and he brought some tannerite is jar like this i don't know if it weighed one pound or five pounds one you think and uh if i recall kyle did the shooting but he was like yeah you know like just did a little thing this is what
Starting point is 02:03:57 i do check this out i think you might like it the explosion blew my hair back guys look this hair doesn't move right even though we're behind wings granny's trailer this is like a suburban area kind of threw it out in the yard and i think i grabbed an f2000 or something and just like like set it off in the yard my hair is like i can't even move it but it did it was like like i felt the explosion i was like holy shit i've never like felt a percussion like that yeah it was pretty cool yeah that's a percussion like that buy that shit hey that's cheap make it yourself it is uh we were experimenting with direction allegedly uh experimenting with directional explosives so we took a tupperware container and we uh we opened up a bunch of shotgun shells
Starting point is 02:04:52 took butt shot just laid it in the container and the next to it put five pounds of tannerite we're like let's just see let's just see like what this does man i thought i had shot like one and two pounds before i'm like i'm man enough for this i fire that five pound i was not man enough for that that was an experience yeah i was like take your breath away with the shock of wave yeah i was like maybe 50 yards away maybe and i'm like oh there's a chest high barrier this will be fine so I fire and then like as soon as it happens my sinuses were cleared
Starting point is 02:05:29 yeah if you've never been around an explosion like that before it's bracing you know if you've ever felt like a good sound system that you get a big one of those and it's fun it feels good whenever you blew up that truck how much did you use uh probably about 15 pounds that was like the
Starting point is 02:05:52 general i had a charge after a while that i just used for cars i won't go i probably described it precisely but i don't think i will right here at the moment, but I had a container that would hold exactly like 13 or 14 pounds roughly. It was something like that, like 13.5. And I would hang that from the rear view mirror kind of central to the cab of, you know, you want the explosion to be even. And the mirror was broken, so we put it on the oh shit handle instead, which put it against the door, which created a bit of a shape charge kind of scenario, pushing the door.
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Starting point is 02:15:19 16 ounces of orange juice every day. This is key to success. Are you, like, watering? Are you putting water in there, too? No! Water's disgusting. I don you putting water in there too no water's disgusting i don't want that in my protein it's like it's vanilla orange yeah okay you know what that's kind of like a sherbert that's not yeah it can be but then you know i heap a bunch of other shit in there too oh i don't give my secret formula away there's some ice in there that's all i'll say
Starting point is 02:15:40 your secret formula comes in a needle still still secret that's just the the spit of a stronger man uh you ever fucking know dude they're fucking uh um i'm your boy your boy poo holes over 700 now like 703 home runs and then uh that other asshole uh breaking uh the home run record same year he didn't he uh i thought he was like 10 short. Yeah, but we don't count like McGuire anymore. Oh, dude. It's St. Louis Cardinals and Philadelphia Phillies are up
Starting point is 02:16:30 against each other in the playoffs. Thus far, St. Louis unable to get a win. Same with Philly. I don't actually know when baseball playoffs start. They haven't started yet. We're a few days away. It's coming soon to a stadium near you.
Starting point is 02:16:50 But no, what I was getting at is both that happens on the back of the baseball lockout and the pandemic. These guys had like two years to juice with no fucking testing. I don't think anybody got tested for like a whole year or something at one point because of one of those things or the other and now these guys are coming back getting dingers like they never have before or like nobody has before really i can't explain it doesn't make any sense i don't care it's because it's playoff baseball time and i'm pretty psyched because the braves have a good chance they got a much better chance than they did because of winning the east out of nowhere getting a much better like path to the series. I saw a power chart for like our our pitching staff.
Starting point is 02:17:32 And they said we're third behind the Dodgers and another team that I can't remember. That's what it's like to be a Sixers fan. You know, hey, we're like the fourth most likely team to win it all. But we're in it. We're in that conversation. Going back to back would be big, though. We went through the 90s with only one, even though we had those three Hall of Fame generational talents. Maddox is like a once in a lifetime.
Starting point is 02:17:55 When you look at his stats, it's kind of bizarre. When you look at his body, he's a librarian. Oh, he's a fucking... Anyway, there's a great video about Maddox from that channel I was talking about the other day called Baseball Isn't Real or Baseball is Fake. Whatever. Something like that.
Starting point is 02:18:11 The whole thing about Maddox. In response to my, he looks like a librarian comment. Yeah, he doesn't look very athletic, but he's just one of the best ever at what he did. I was like, if Kyle was going to call him an accountant, I'm going to stand up for accountants. i'm not going to sit here and let that happen i'm not going to stand by i'm not going to sit here impotently like some accountant that's like last year
Starting point is 02:18:42 no but even that guy's an accountant. 1995 Greg Maddox. I don't know. He doesn't look very impressive. He didn't look any better. He looks like he's a bank manager. I mean, he is very wealthy. That's cruel. That's over the line.
Starting point is 02:19:02 Watch it. I paid $400 for this Maddoxx jersey if you say one more goddamn word he wore this god damn it did he really no fuck no that would have been that would have been brian mccann jersey um not even like a current player at all uh but i'm like no i'm not current players i feel like that's a better fandom yeah absolutely yeah brian mccann was my brian mccann was my favorite player the make-a-wish adult he was uh he was really good at uh placing his pitches where he wanted um just masterful at it i think espn or no no that that guy has a video about his like i think an 86 pitch uh like when
Starting point is 02:19:53 he had which is really low um like a complete game complete game in 86 pitches so no greg greg maddox was uh i think that's probably why i wanted to pitch when I was a kid because it was like man if he can do it because you if you looked at John on the Braves you had Glavin and Smoltz as well and they were much more athletic especially Smoltz he's a big guy like throws real hard but then there was Maddox if he can do it I think anybody can do it you know and his thing while he did throw faster than average, it didn't seem like that was his thing. It seemed like placement was his thing. And so
Starting point is 02:20:29 that seemed like a path for the average person to be exceptional. You did pitch, didn't you? When you were a kid? Yeah. That's one of the most high-pressure things. Some of my strongest memories are wins and losses
Starting point is 02:20:45 when we were playing Little League and fucking crying from a loss or being really happy about a win. That was really fun. But pitching in general is a really high pressure kind of thing. But it's a lot of fun. There was times when I was good enough at it that I was like, this is going to be fun.
Starting point is 02:21:04 They're going to get fucked up. it just seemed like they couldn't if they can't hit you it's really fun because you control the whole game everybody looks to you like like you're you're the guy that i mean the umpire might say play ball but we're not gonna move until i let go of this ball and and so that's kind of fun and uh the fielding you do is uh i don't know it's a lot more constrained we're right here and you know whereas if you're a shortstop or something you got a lot of ground to cover i enjoyed it it was a lot of fun do you think oh go ahead buddy i was gonna say that it's fun to be a ringer right like it i wasn't that great as a woman don't let me get carried away but um there was like, if the subdivision pool has lines on the bottom,
Starting point is 02:21:48 then that little community has a swim team. And they're mostly kids or whatever. And I guess I was friends with the coach. And if they had a close meet, they'd have me join them. This is a fucking like, whatever. Amherst subdivision swim meet in that league. I'm a God. I win every race.
Starting point is 02:22:11 I can take every relay team to a win. Like it's just, they're not good. They're not, they're not good swimmers. And, uh, I would just come in.
Starting point is 02:22:20 I forget if you could only swim five or six events, but I would win every single one of them and, uh, and help the team get more points than the other team. And, and it was just a service I liked offering for my own fucking narcissism. Were the, were the teammates like you were helping happy or was it like a bad news bears
Starting point is 02:22:36 situation where they're all like pissed that they're like all on the bench? Oh no, they were absolutely thrilled to have you there. You know, like, Oh, this guy's here. He's going to get us whatever.
Starting point is 02:22:45 Six first places and it'll help us get more points. I remember when I was 12, my dad had a men's league game for ice hockey, obviously. And the other goalies are gold. They're a rare treasure in pickup leagues because no one wants to play
Starting point is 02:23:02 goalie because it's the hardest position and you have to put on all the fucking pads and everything they play for free all the time yeah just because they're great you know people need them and like i was like 12 and my dad was telling me he's like hey the other goalie's not going to be there will you be the goalie for my team for this men's league tonight and i remember like in my head being like grown-ups adults and like the only other like grown-ups and adults I'd seen play hockey were like Al McInnes and Chris Pronger. I remember like being like kind of intimidated by it.
Starting point is 02:23:31 And then like, they dropped the puck and these guys skated slower than I've ever seen anyone skate. And I was like, Oh, and like, I, I remember like,
Starting point is 02:23:41 it's funny. Kyle mentions like that, those proud moments. I still have a photo of myself and my dad after that game we won like five to one or something like i i played tremendous i was so proud of myself after the game because even though i was beating like fucking accountants and bankers easy attorneys and stuff even though it still felt really good like oh man we showed up late one year for little league signups and my age group had already went so i got to go and i got to go play with the kids that were a year younger for a whole fucking season
Starting point is 02:24:12 you were just a ruiner i don't remember the exact ages but i think it was like i was 13 and i was playing against some 11 year olds maybe those are two big years i don't know i may be stretching it a year all i know is i could throw harder than anybody in that league do you ever hit anyone just to you know set the you know the stage never you're not gonna be trifled with never hit anybody on purpose but i hit plenty of people and when you see it sometimes i'd feel bad because a kid would like start crying i saw kids cry a lot because it's again it's little league baseball and somebody eats one to the mouth they fuck one kid had braces and he just didn't have the goddamn reflexes it's just reflexes if when you're fielding ground balls, they can make these funny hops,
Starting point is 02:25:08 and there's a thing that you've got to train into yourself. I'm sure there's similar things in every sport, but you don't let that ball come to you. You aggressively go get that ball. You're going after that grounder. Don't get back here like you're guarding a net. You go get it. And if you eat it, you eat it, and sometimes you will.
Starting point is 02:25:24 Sometimes it'll just pop up and hit you in the mouth. Your glove's down here, and it pops funny and hits you in the mouth. You eat it, you pick it. And sometimes you will. Sometimes it'll just pop up and hit you in the mouth. Your gloves down here and it just, it pops funny and hits you in the mouth. You eat it, you pick it up and you throw it. This kid didn't even have the reflexes to field one. And I think he was playing third base, shortstop, fields a quick one, spins around. And our shortstop was this big lanky black kid that my dad and me would pick him up every day. This kid could throw. He was so strong, but he couldn't pitch. He wasn't accurate. He could could sling it he was so big and he slung at it little kyle and kyle
Starting point is 02:25:50 ate it right in the mouth from shortstop to third he couldn't get his hand up hands up right in the braces and the blood was so bad i think they caught there's an ambulance like already there at the field i think and they went and get put that oxygen on him and his little lips were all cut up from the braces it was bad that sucks i remember once i i you know those goofy glasses that young kids have to wear you know to play soccer and stuff yeah i had to wear those and i remember once i left them i hated wearing them I hated wearing them so much because it embarrassed me. And I remember like intentionally just like leaving them like on the blacktop near the field. And I would just like try and play without them. And like a car picking up another kid drove over my my like prescription little soccer sports glasses. And after like a little bit of playing soccer
Starting point is 02:26:45 i was like this isn't this isn't gonna pan out like i i need to be able to see and so then i went to go look for them and they were shattered and so i didn't play soccer the rest of the day which was a win because soccer fucking sucked i wish we it was just running around it was just running is not our thing we're not wired for it but we're talking about being overmatched I like to what do you mean our thing white people or Taylor three of us
Starting point is 02:27:11 run I'm not very spry we're plotters I built for long distance I don't even know that'll hurt my knees. So I'm like 25 years old. I'm learning to play hockey.
Starting point is 02:27:27 I've told this before, but I love it. And I had played like a bunch of roller hockey, which is kind of undisciplined. And, you know, like people kind of chase the ball like kids and stuff like that. So I wanted to learn positional hockey and get it right and, you know, get slap shot hard and flat shit like that so i'm at the rink and that where i played roller hockey there was also three ice hockey rinks in pennsylvania and it was this big hockey facility and they had learned to play flyers all over the wall so i'm like fuck it i'm in right i'm gonna i'm gonna add ice hockey to my repertoire and i go there and my wife is with me i'm married i'm a grown-ass fucking man
Starting point is 02:28:06 and i'm like six foot tall you know six three on skates and uh there isn't another student whose age is in the double digits in this whole fucking thing and there's like 150 of us learning. They had us all in a line at one point. Oh, shit. You stayed? Yeah. Yeah, they're in a line. And my wife, I love her a lot. She's in the, my wife is in the stands with all the parents who are watching their kids. Which one is yours?
Starting point is 02:28:39 She's like, that one's mine. They're looking like a coach. She's like, that one's mine. They're just really looking like a coach. They all think that you're just very developmentally delayed. It's like, yeah, I'm proud of him. I wanted to learn to play hockey. I'm like, yeah, I'm sticking
Starting point is 02:28:57 this out. I paid for lessons. Here I go. I did great. Oh my god. I can speak. My Slapshot was the only one who brought their own stick. Yeah, no, I was the top of that class.
Starting point is 02:29:13 You're more of a man than I am. If I walked in and saw kids, I'd be like, oh, I was just using the bathroom. I'll get out of here. There was a coach teaching one of the kids how to pull the laces tight. I'm like, all right.
Starting point is 02:29:30 Did you raise your hand? No. Coach, you start kicking your feet. Do I put the knee pads on after the shorts or before? I don't know what I would do. I'd get in there and be like, what are you here for? I'd be like, I'm here for the hockey. Right.
Starting point is 02:29:46 Like, oh, that checks out. Okay. But why did you drive here? Those camps, as soon as you said learn to play, I was like, oh my god. That's like what real jerks do. You're like Kramer fucking karate chopping those kids.
Starting point is 02:30:06 That'd be so funny if they had like an MVP of the day. They pin a star proudly to your 25-year-old shoulder. Now some other kid gets it, he's like, that should have been mine. I worked for that gold
Starting point is 02:30:22 star. Now that kid's gonna make the NHL because he's ready for the competition. He's played against adults since he was a child. Oh, what? What sports did you play growing up? Me? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:37 I've had a great time. It feels like I'm watching a PK episode. It's lovely. Just listening to Kyle's stories of kids bleeding. It's great. You want a little sticker? You are. Whoa! episode. It's lovely. Just listening to Kyle's stories of kids bleeding. It's great. You are. I played golf and baseball. I didn't play baseball until high school. I played golf
Starting point is 02:30:57 since I was like fourth, fifth grade. I still golf. I just like the sport. It's fun. But baseball was like the only team sport. I played basketball in middle school, but that, I still golf. I just like the sport. It's fun. But baseball was like the only team sport. I played basketball in middle school, but that doesn't really count. Yeah. Yeah. Baseball. I was outfield, which meant not good, but I had a pretty good batting average. So I was happy with that. So in golf, you still play. Are you pretty good? No, I just do it for fun. Like on a really good day it's like bogey golf and i'm like oh yeah
Starting point is 02:31:26 this is this is my sweet spot but whenever i go out to golf i'm just like walking by myself for exercise because i have fun doing it i'll shank a shot and be like i just throw down a ball hit another one like i'm not taking it too seriously i just enjoy it but yeah i like it in that how good you are is like a real thing that's recorded and comparable. Right? Yeah. How good are you at hockey? I'm better than all the other guys.
Starting point is 02:31:51 That tells me very little. Yeah. That tells me very little. Wait, what did you shoot at Augusta? And it's like, well, I don't like talking about that. 200. In the North Carolina men's sea league level, I'm well above average. North Carolina men? Whoa!
Starting point is 02:32:09 Some stiff ice hockey competition. They call that the Ontario of the South. The Ontario of the South. I started it just now. the people did i started it just now i like i like golf a lot because you can go out by yourself get the full experience of playing and then play against yourself every day and like you said it's like very quantitative you have exactly how you did compared to how you did last time uh and it's just fun but i feel like it's an always lose sport and and i'll also paragliding is something that i do sometimes
Starting point is 02:32:46 right and every time you jump off the side of a mountain you're hoping that it's the best day you've ever had you're hoping that you break some new record and anything shy of that is kind of like i did well but it wasn't my best day you know like i was really hoping to achieve this new thing it was fun i guess but it wasn't what i was hoping for all the time every like year and a half you have your best day like you know every that's how often it happens i feel like golf has a lot of that where you're just how'd you do well not as good as you know march of 2021 yeah yeah you always have like because you set your own standard right so if you have an abnormally good day everything after that that isn't abnormal is going to be a bad day by comparison but which is the reason i don't take it too seriously with myself because as soon as i
Starting point is 02:33:38 do it doesn't become fun anymore then it's like it's just me seething over myself from a year ago uh versus like just going out and having fun and normally i find i play my best games when i don't care because whenever i care is when i'm like oh my my knee position isn't quite right i'm gonna shake it yeah you're all weightlifting has some of that like like today if i hit a pr in exercise like today i did in uh bicep curls. And so I lived, I had a little more weight than I ever had before. And I get to eight and I was like,
Starting point is 02:34:11 I should fucking stop here. Save some PRs for tomorrow. You're obviously having a good day for you. Fucking don't do 12, you asshole. That's going to be your new standard. Any day you don't do that now you suck yeah now because the next day you're like well i did it yesterday so now what's wrong with me today yeah exactly what's my problem that's and i golf would be so much
Starting point is 02:34:39 fun if i liked it i see how all my friends who like golf have a blast with it and i just have you ever gone out with have you ever gone out with, have you ever gone out with your buddies? Like I've gone out, I've had a bunch of fun doing scrambles. I told Kyle that the other week we're like, that's a ton of fun because it's more about the socializing and the chilling and there's no pressure whatsoever. Like five people go and use whoever did best.
Starting point is 02:35:00 And then you play, it's like, you just pretty much split it. So it's like, okay, well there's, there's a group of eight and there's three actually decent golfers the okay i'll put the best guy with the three worst and like that kind of thing so there's no pressure on me and like at least three four times throughout the day through sheer luck i'll like crush it straight
Starting point is 02:35:19 down the the the uh fairway driveway and it's like oh the driveway i almost said driveway very close to golf you can tell and like and that feels good too because even though you've been bombing all day you hit like one really good one it's like damn like i'm part of the team like that was the best one i'm almost as i think about it the tactic seems to encourage riskier shots right like you're getting essentially like four or five tries at it. If everyone plays conservatively, you'll never have any greatness. Yeah. Oh, whenever I play scramble golf, we're like, all right, first two,
Starting point is 02:35:55 we're going to try to bank it off that house. Someone else go. This whole, we're just going to hit it as hard as we can. No style. Just close your eyes. Scream. Have you seen Happy Gilmore that does work ironically
Starting point is 02:36:11 wait no way that works it does if you hit it straight if you hit it straight yeah if everything lines up perfect but don't do that like they do driving championships you've seen them probably like the 8 foot golf clubs they don't do that. They do driving championships. You've seen them probably with the eight-foot golf clubs. They don't run. No. Oh, I was just
Starting point is 02:36:28 saying you could do it if you hit it perfectly the way Happy Gilmore did. But yeah, there's a reason all those pros like their feet just where they are because that's where they're succeeding. Even then, you're not adding a lot to it because what drives the ball is the velocity of the swing. So you running
Starting point is 02:36:44 as you're doing it would add like a fraction. I wonder how fast the golf goes. Cause you're going to add about two and a half miles an hour to it. Maybe by running. Yeah. And you're running your accuracy. I mean, I'm capable of running up to eight miles an hour,
Starting point is 02:36:59 but I couldn't hit a golf ball at the same time. So I would run it like three. I claim to run at 12 miles an hour. I mean, at the same time. So I would run it like three. I claim to run it 12 miles an hour. I mean, there was a time. And this isn't golf, so you can't prove me wrong. You can do 12. I can be unbelievably fast if I try.
Starting point is 02:37:17 You can run? We were talking about running while hitting the Happy Gilmore golf swing. Oh, that's silly. Yes. In the high drive, in the high drive competition,
Starting point is 02:37:28 they get up to about 140 mile per hour. So I can run. It's not going to add a ton at all. That's actually not as fast as I would have guessed for a golf ball. Cause like a baseball. No, no, no,
Starting point is 02:37:40 no. That's the golf clubs that they're swinging. Yeah. Yeah. The golf ball would on takeoff. It's going faster than a pitch. Yeah, no. That's the golf club that they're swinging. Yeah, yeah. The golf ball would, on takeoff, it's going faster than a pitch. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:52 There's clips of people getting fucked up by golf balls. Yes. They don't say four. And it was a friend of mine. We were golfing in like fucking high school, just shitting around on some public course. And he hit me with a ball. I was standing like literally lateral to him as
Starting point is 02:38:08 he was hitting it off the fairway and he sliced it or just nicked it so bad it hit me in the ankle and it was like you you fucking idiot like that actually hurts like welcome to catch me gimpy I know I've heard people
Starting point is 02:38:24 tell this story before so I guarantee it's happened multiple times i know someone who drove a golf ball like you know geese are out on the the golf course sometimes someone was like hey i'm gonna drive this right at that goose and like it's a hundred yards away it's like there's no fucking way but he was like bad enough at golf. He was in that sweet spot of, I can hit it that far, but I don't know where I'm going to hit it. And he killed a goose on a golf course.
Starting point is 02:38:52 Really? He said it hit it in the neck and it wiggled around for a bit and then died. And they just played through. There's nothing else you can do. So no mercy. It was a bad kind of bird so i i witnessed this firsthand i can attest to it when i was in high school we were playing a match and there was this guy um who i went to high school with who there's so many stories about because he was just bad luck
Starting point is 02:39:20 larry after the worst situations you could imagine happened to him constantly. I remember he had like this crush through all of high school. And then he finally asked her out. She said yes. An hour later, his dad called and was like, the dog got hit by a car. Like nothing could go right for this guy. So anyway, during a golf match, he's playing. He's not that good.
Starting point is 02:39:43 God bless his soul. He had the attitude, but he just couldn't quite get it there. R.I.P. And I was finished with the course. So I was watching him. He was like our extras who were in the back golfing. And I was on a cart, and he hits a drive, and the drive beelines right into a tree.
Starting point is 02:40:00 And whenever it hits the tree, I see the golf ball and something else fall down. I'm like, that was weird. He walks up there, and we can see from like 50 yards out, he's just going, like staring at the ground. We drive up to him to see what's going on, and this man, I kid you not, hit a three-legged squirrel. This man, I kid you not, hit a three-legged squirrel.
Starting point is 02:40:25 Oh. This thing, its back leg was gone, clipped off in some injury. That was Osama bin Laden reincarnated. That was a bad luck squirrel. Yeah, they're matching in hell. It was laying there twitching just like barely dead, and he was staring at it. And the coach, who didn't like this guy to begin with he walks
Starting point is 02:40:48 up to him and he goes did you hit that squirrel and he Larry's looking down he goes I love squirrels and the coach said just hit the ball that's a little I mean Larry's got a you see an animal writhing in the death throes
Starting point is 02:41:03 there you got to end it for the animal. Don't let him fucking roll around for 20 minutes in agony. My brother... So when I was like 13 and my brother was like 15, he went through a stage where he loves stunt kites. I don't know if you're familiar with these, but they're these
Starting point is 02:41:20 kites that rip across the sky and you do all these loops and turns and shit with it. I think he even competed in stunt kite competitions. he definitely worked at a store that sold them so this is his thing and uh i come upon the beach and there's my brother flying the kites and there's a seagull like just dancing with the kite you know he's going left and the seagull's playing with the kite and he's very excited about this scenario well the wind is ripping and these kites do too and uh so he just it's tearing across the horizon and he kills a seagull it like it like broke its wing the thing comes spiraling down like one of those seeds out of a tree you know for like a
Starting point is 02:41:59 hundred feet and then the seagull dies that's not a skunk, right? but the seagull died a painful death on the ground he was just so into well we're playing together, look at me in nature, loving the scene and it ended poorly. I don't know I don't have any love for birds, I guess when I see
Starting point is 02:42:20 those really smart little pet birds that clearly have personality I saw one the other day that feigned of see those like really smart little pet birds that clearly have personality like all right you saw i saw one the other day that feigned injury to get attention like like the other animal or something touched it and it did it like made its wing go like cocky and like ran back to the owner like and it's like dude we saw that you want attention it was like that bird has a personality but like when we were hunting like i didn't give a shit i remember one time we were dove hunting and a banded pigeon flew over
Starting point is 02:42:49 now i didn't know it was a banded pigeon i just thought it was the king of all doves so i smoked it there's a good guess that's a good guess they call that the dove queen I was like 12 I thought it was the queen dove I thought I got her I was 12 so you know it came over it was one of those things where like there were bushes in front of me and it
Starting point is 02:43:16 cleared the bushes and I had it it was like oh there it is and I have to shoot or not shoot so I smoked her anyway you throw her in the bush i didn't feel fucking bad they had like it's it had like a number and shit on the band i think i had a number to call if you found the bird i was like i'm why would i tell him what i did it's a bird sounds like a confession if you ask me i mean that i was 12 i was 12 no statute of limitations on bird murder. Apparently not.
Starting point is 02:43:47 And it was an accident, for the love of God. But no, I've never felt sorry for birds. I remember you ever have a friend whose older brother is a menace, and you're kind of afraid of him? So there was a kid that I'd go to his house sometimes, hang out. Very cool there. He had Doom on a nice computer, and this at a time when like that was cutting edge almost or at least like it was the coolest thing that that we could think of he was that kid who could do back flips from a very young age and was a white kid with a six pack at like 14 like like just just had it all seemingly
Starting point is 02:44:20 his name was chad i'm not even kidding anyway his older brother his older brother was fucking scary where there was a rumor that he had gotten in a fight and he had driven a guy's nose into the guy's brain and killed him and you know we're like kids right so we believe this shit we're terrified he this guy comes home and he's just he he i ended up saying the wrong thing apparently now i'm dangling over the balcony I remember that he dangled me over the balcony like Michael Jackson did. Yeah, yeah. It's scary, but scary.
Starting point is 02:44:51 Did you ever have any experiences like that? Because you've got the three brothers. I would think that with the network of friends that y'all had, some hijinks and shenanigans would get going. I'm surprised there was never a fight where all three of you had to beat somebody up. No, no. never never did that like i can't i can't think of any big bulky like older because i'm like the way it worked out like my brother's two grades below me my other brother's
Starting point is 02:45:19 much younger so we didn't go to school together but like the way it worked out is all my friends like tons of them had younger brothers that were two years below it was a weird coincidence like huge so it was like a big group but i didn't really know and my friends who had older siblings they were like like that kind of older where it's like i have a brother and it's like really yeah he's 31 it's like oh well he's not in the mix man like he's he's, he's. Unless he's a real loser. Oh yeah. Do you remember those guys in high school where like a 22 year old would show up to
Starting point is 02:45:50 pick up a sophomore junior and it's like, what, what the hell is wrong with you? Like you loser going around. Like I remember seeing like recently graduated seniors, like the year above me come back to school during class and be like, hi, Mrs. Smith. And like there were a couple guys and a couple girls and it's like go live your life get the fuck out of what is wrong with you to want to just pop in four months after you graduated i disagree i have my own take on this
Starting point is 02:46:17 i think that what it is is that guy being older was always alpha to us, right? And we're thankful that he's gone, right? I had asshole was a senior when I was a sophomore. Now I'm the senior and he pops his head back in. Now he's a sophomore in college. Go do, leave me the fuck alone. This is my chance to be the senior. I'm supposed to be in charge here. You're a loser.
Starting point is 02:46:45 You're a loser for wondering what's happening back here. You're a loser for caring about the teacher you had two years ago. But then two years later, no, I didn't do it. I didn't pop back in. But I was curious. I would have been interested in talking to my old swim coach or this guy or that guy. I can see why there's an interest in popping in. I'm not trying to steal some high school.
Starting point is 02:47:07 I was in a unique situation. Cause I went to high school on the same campus. I went to college. Cause I went to a prep high school. So like the high school's there at the college. So as soon as I started my freshman semester in college, like the, my high school's right there.
Starting point is 02:47:23 So I'm like, Oh, I've got the ID badge. I'll just let me in the building i'll go see like uh this teacher who i was friends with and i go in and as soon as i'm in i'm like this is weird i don't like this never did it again it was not a fan i think like i can see where you're coming from woody and like yeah if you're on the same campus like that's it's totally different i remember like and like it definitely wasn't the senior thing for my friend group because i remember like when they would stop by i'd be like are any of you guys ever gonna pop in to say hi to miss smith after we graduate and they're like fuck no dude like i don't want to be here right now like i'm not
Starting point is 02:47:58 gonna opt to come back here i have not gone back to my high school ever. I think I drove past it with Woody a few years ago and that was the closest I had been in a long time. Because there's nothing for me there. I already did it. I wanted to see my high school. I wanted to retrace the steps of the infamous girl I slapped at
Starting point is 02:48:21 13 years old. I'm looking at up on Google Maps. She had it coming. Long story. I'm 100% in the right. 110% in the right to hit this woman. I'll take your word for it. Where can I slap her? Sure. Anyway, they tore the school down
Starting point is 02:48:39 and built it up. The places weren't there. They put the schools where the tennis courts were and put the tennis courts where the school was and i'm like that is definitely not how it was nice and uh yeah that's how that must be how they did it yeah no i've never had any uh reason to go back there the teachers that i did like um like uh it was uh the met the the welding and the construction teacher and you know i went on to like play poker with them later on when i was like out of high school like those guys were part of that like scene that we played a lot of texas holding together so you know i actually got to see them later on those were cool people
Starting point is 02:49:13 and i think i shot with them a little bit too like sporting clays and stuff those guys it's more of an intimate scene you know like you're doing a shared activity it's not just a teacher that like you were gonna oh of course well it's to... It's a thousand percent different dynamic. For one thing, those guys were kind of loose for their teaching style. The construction teacher is the one I hit and more or less got away with hitting a teacher in class.
Starting point is 02:49:36 They were pretty cool guys. Based in Redfield, perhaps. Based in Redfield, attacking your teacher in class. He should have hit me back. He totally should have hit me back he totally should have smoked me if he laid me out right there he'd have set a good fucking example
Starting point is 02:49:51 he shouldn't have let me do that he really should have smoked me like I had it coming I wouldn't have complained I understood I wouldn't have said a damn thing I would have told on him I fell Mr. Coffin Nah Mr. Cawthon Did Mr. Cawthon hit you?
Starting point is 02:50:08 Nope nope I fell and hit my head I hit him accidentally and on the way down I hit my face He was a big dude he totally could have whipped my ass You know like I think little kids Overestimate how strong they are Compared to like grown man strength This dude was like
Starting point is 02:50:24 I don't know maybe my age now like like i didn't want any six four so i had to reach up to hit him that was bossy i hit him on the head to be fair i didn't punch him in the face i did this it was stupid it doesn't matter a hammer fist i did give him a hammer fist i donkey conked him in the top of the head but but we made up and we were friends later on and it wasn't a big deal. I explained to him that I was just an asshole. Just punched a teacher in class.
Starting point is 02:50:51 No biggie. It didn't seem like when you phrase it like that it's like, why would everyone... Even now, I'm like, I can't believe I did that. I just got caught up in a moment i think and and things just got away from me and it just happened it just happened sometimes things just happen sometimes just punch a teacher it happens sorry hammer fist a teacher
Starting point is 02:51:16 you gotta ground and pound your shop teacher but uh but but no i uh i never had any desire to go back to school and like visit with like certainly not like anyone who was like an underclassman like go see the juniors who are now seniors or whatever like i had just seemed like a real lame scene because i remember there were whenever i would see those hanger-ons anybody was older i thought like you should be doing that stuff that you're allowed to do now the only reason i'm here is should be doing that stuff that you're allowed to do now the only reason i'm here is because i have to be and you're here by choice and that makes you a loser whether everybody else can see it or not like you should not be here right now
Starting point is 02:51:55 i always i guess i like inherently just like took their presence there at 4 p.m on a friday to say hi to a teacher as like oh for you to be here. I don't even mean just at school. I just mean hanging out at parties and stuff too. I didn't. When I was a senior, there weren't really any like already graduated guys hanging out at parties or anything. So we didn't deal with that.
Starting point is 02:52:18 But we would see the same fucking dudes. It was literally the same one or two guys and the same one or two girls. And we would see them regularly. it wasn't like the class above me would like trickle in randomly it was literally the same two girls and i think the same two maybe three guys and it would be like they'd pop in like every other week sometimes like and it didn't make any sense and my thought was always like for you to be here so regularly it might not be going so great for you out there like trying to return to a place of familiarity maybe i don't know i think there's some of that what happened in my at the
Starting point is 02:52:49 parties a couple guys would show up and these guys were like good high school athletes and now you know that's all over they're not in college like they don't have anything going on but at the parties they're still friends with all the coolest kids. Like, you know, they're a year or two older and they're like, Oh, Johnny, welcome back. Hey, you know, like,
Starting point is 02:53:08 and to me, I was like, fuck, I just, I just, it's like when they hire a boss over you and now you just pushed another level down in popularity. I can understand that.
Starting point is 02:53:22 This was my kingdom. You came into it. I was trying to be a prince and now I'm a Dutch or whatever. I don't know what a little prince is. The king came back, took his spot. Who was king is prince and now I'm something less.
Starting point is 02:53:38 A duke, maybe. One of those things that you can buy from one of those things that sponsors Chael Sonnen where you can buy one squared of of land somewhere and become a duke or a knight i think you're talking about sir chael sunnen or lord chael sunnen lord chael sunnen yes my mistake um it is the chamaya fight this weekend i'm'm not sure. It's Oliveira and... I have the 20th in my head. I keep thinking that it's time because
Starting point is 02:54:09 everybody's talking about it so much, or at least in the little circles that I'm in on the internet, everybody's talking about it a ton. It is the 22nd. It's 3-1, the odds right now. For the champ losing? I'm going to call him the champ even though yeah let's
Starting point is 02:54:26 call him the champ for the sake of argument it doesn't matter if you know you know it doesn't matter um but but i think they're doing that one abu dhabi maybe are they i think that's gonna be a huge one so i know that the time is 2 p.m here yeah yeah so we were talking about this like a week ago how it'd be nice if these things didn't begin at 10pm and stretch on until 1-2am. You're falling asleep by the main event. Here we go. It's going to be 2pm for main event start, I believe. That'll be nice, actually. Early prelims at noon.
Starting point is 02:54:54 It'll be an afternoon thing. The thing people don't know is that calories consumed during UFC fights don't count. I might have some recollections. I'm doing my kata the whole time I watch. I'm like fucking Neo. I'm like in-game Neo while I watch.
Starting point is 02:55:14 Me doing ridiculously uncoordinated roundhouse kicks. I'll watch the moves they do and I'll correct them in real time. I get my girlfriend to pay attention and record me. And then I send it to the guy. Nobody's replied yet with my tips. I saw Will Tennyson in a YouTube video.
Starting point is 02:55:36 I really like his videos, by the way. Do you know who he is? Of course, of course. All right. For people who don't, he's a fitness influencer. He's a big, strong guy. He looks tall to me. Do you think he's six two six three i he seems tall and uh uh he's really fit he's a fitness influencer youtuber and he's also funny anyway he did this thing where he played horse
Starting point is 02:55:56 with this female ufc fighter she used to also be a power lifter and uh i think that he was a little modest he could have selected the events that he would kick her ass like strength stuff but instead it was jumping rope and uh hitting mitts and stuff that she was better at than him anyway at the end of it they did a little sparring session body shots only and she fucked him up and i am so familiar with what he went through being overmatched in a in a ring and the the timers don't make any sense like i i still think i fully understand like they go off with 30 seconds to go they go off with like a minute to every time you think the bell rings and you're gonna stop taking taking punishment, they're like, no, that's like Christmas Eve Eve. The warning that the warning is going to come up.
Starting point is 02:56:51 It's like the audible from a quarterback. You've just got to know, apparently. I've watched guys get confused by it. He takes that box or whatever. That famous fight we watched when the guy doesn't know what it is. I don't either because I'm not a boxer. But he takes the little timer box and puts everything the guy goes what you're gonna play some music and he's like oh you don't know what the fuck this is huh yeah and like he slowly feels him out until he's like all right now i'm gonna i'm gonna beat the
Starting point is 02:57:18 shit out of you and just make some i can't remember that video she's hitting him and just unloading on his midsection he He's got his guard down. She's mostly hitting his arms and elbows and stuff, but he's still being punished. And he's telling the camera, like, I don't think you guys know how bad this is. And he's exhausted.
Starting point is 02:57:35 And like the 32nd thing goes off. And then of course it's 30, 30 seconds of getting beat up takes a really long time. Five or six minutes, I think. And at the end of it he's just like you know that was that was 30 seconds what are you serious no way that was 30 seconds and of course it was but it's a fun video to watch i don't think i'm selling it right but uh
Starting point is 02:57:57 just see him get in the rant and get in the ring with even a female fighter it's brutal i'm i had something i wanted to talk to wendigoon about we can jump in with that so i've i've i know from your channel you you're very interested in these mystical woodland creatures and things very not just woodland all over the place of all those you've researched do any of them at all like trigger a thought in your mind to be like this would be real or are you mostly at the end of it like i can't buy in i i do think that there is a large case for a lot of like ocean creatures for one right so i'm going to leave those out of it because that's cheating right okay um as far as like Um, as far as like, so I'm from Eastern Tennessee, right?
Starting point is 02:58:50 So I spent a lot of the time in the woods, do a lot of camping. And there's some, there's some weird stuff that goes down. You just don't explain like just some, some noises, some carcasses you find that you're like, this is not right. Um, and I'm also like, you know, a Christian, a Sunday school teacher. So I also have the thought in my head, like maybe it's just a demon that makes me feel better for some reason. So if there is any like supernatural or cryptid, so to speak creature that would exist,
Starting point is 02:59:19 I would probably say it would be in line with a lot of mythologies that go along the lines of like the rake or something like that and i don't think maybe any one specific one of them is real just maybe like some kind of creature that's unaccounted for just something that isn't quite on the record yet it's it's not an entirely out there like you know bigfoot with antlers and giant wings as much as i love the mothman probably not um but just something that we're not entirely aware of yet that makes a noise at night that we don't pay attention to yeah i'm also like i also lean toward that not like the biblical demon which is a fucking corrupted angel of the lord but like the
Starting point is 02:59:59 idea of some sort of like i don't know other dimensional fucking weird being that's kind of here but not really and like maybe sometimes it influences our world in some weird way even if it's just being a cold spot or screaming real loud in the woods an in-betweener so to speak yeah yeah i don't know um i've never seen or heard anything that, that, that I couldn't explain with my ears or eyes one way or another. Um, you know, I, I remember when we were on our little,
Starting point is 03:00:30 uh, survival trip that time with you, myself and Chiz and Patrick or cam man. And, uh, we heard some people way in the distance being sit. I'm going to say they were being silly and partying by a fire because that's not terrifying. Because what we heard was
Starting point is 03:00:46 it sounded like there might be some deliberate shit going down you know like they just had like fuck the guy or something or a demon ritual of sorts you never know but it was so far away but we're in like a silent forest all you hear is crickets and you know all the forest life and and quietness. So, like, a person's voice in those hills, those mountains carries so far. But it was scary. I was glad we had guns.
Starting point is 03:01:12 I was like, yeah, I'm not worried about it at all. We've got fucking guns. I kind of hope they come over here and start some shit. Actually, let's go see what they're yelling about. You better hope that it's like a physical being your guns are going to be nothing against demons well then we've got a cameraman we're all millionaires now we're the first first ghost hunters to actually find a ghost the reason that no if medals are going to be on us like soviet commanders it's going to be nuts if The only thing we know for sure about ghosts
Starting point is 03:01:45 is that if you see one verifiably, they probably are going to kill you, right? There'd be a lot more people with better stories. Me and Woody's Gamertag were the first men to beat up a ghost in the forest of Georgia, and our boy Patrick filmed it. We're cutting shiz out of this.
Starting point is 03:02:01 It's a union thing. Woody took his tent flap, his rain guard, and choked the fucking ghost out. There was so much cosmic energy imbued in it from his anger earlier that day that he could choke a phantom with it.
Starting point is 03:02:19 And we take a phantasm like Prisoner. We'd be the first guy, so I have no fear of a phantasm or ghost. I would love to die that way if someone records it. It'd be cool. That's how I'd love to die. I'd like to be taken out a long time from now. Like at 91.
Starting point is 03:02:36 There's no way I'm making it 90. At 71. Here's the thing. I think people that are our age, we still do that thing where 70 is so goddamn old but every day 70 gets younger if that makes sense like the people who will be seven 70 year olds today are way better help help wise than 70 year olds 10 years ago and on and on and on and on right like there's a reason that they would keep living yeah of course so we were getting fatter at a faster rate than all that.
Starting point is 03:03:06 But the healthcare system, like, the life expectancy keeps going up. Has it gone, it hasn't started going down, has it? I don't think, we've never been like that great with, compared to like a lot of Europe. Maybe like if a bomb went off, you know, the average goes down. But I don't think Europe has,
Starting point is 03:03:21 yeah, Europe doesn't have longer life expectancy because they have like way better, well, they do have better medical care than us. I think it's mostly that they're not all big fat fucks. Way lower. Think about all the problems that being obese causes and then make a population like ours that's super fucking mega obese going to cause it.
Starting point is 03:03:39 Super fucking mega obese. Just a lot of obese. Yes. I'm just saying that by the time you're what i was getting at is yeah why can't they just be a normal guy who's class one obese but when you're 70 that will be a very different 70 probably than the 70 you picture like yeah you're how old are you me 31 40 years from now we're talking like 2060 something like like that is a long time from now like i feel like we've got the spaceships then right like we're on mars and our and our mars cars like it's 70 right like we'll
Starting point is 03:04:19 get to see it then they won't let us go up there but our grandkids will get to go and maybe one of my dogs yeah it could be like that I don't think we're not going to make it like before the buzzer but like we're going to miss all that really cool shit I think I am I don't know about you are you pro or anti-nuclear war
Starting point is 03:04:46 we were we were talking about this earlier would you like to see like a few tactical nukes at least just just for like you know to get to see it would you like to see a few tactical nukes be used is this a question to me yeah for instance it's for the chorus for the chorus um would it would it just be neat perhaps that's exactly what i meant i'll say it this way wouldn't it be i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't wish one however if it's going to happen i would like to see it i'd like if it's going i don't want to see it enough that i hope it happens hey i certainly hope it doesn't happen but make sure you record it if it does i want it to exactly i want the missile to get happen, but make sure you record it if it does. I want it to fail. I want the missile to get launched from Moscow
Starting point is 03:05:28 and not quite make it to Ukraine. I would like the missile to explode in the submarine that it's launched from. Something like that would be cool. No, that's bad for... In the ocean? That's going to fuck up so much flora. No, no, no.
Starting point is 03:05:42 It goes in the water, it spreads out, and that's how stars are made. Noora no no no if it goes in the water it spreads out and that's how stars are made no no no I know a little bit about this thing water is really good at insulating radiation that's why like that's one of the reasons that we keep those rods in water right like you'll be fine
Starting point is 03:06:01 it's not going to hurt anything they've lost a bunch of those nuclear submarines and they don't they don't break the it's gonna be fine anything just a blase approach to a nuke going off no no no and that's the other thing like we always think we always act like one nuke going off is some sort of nuclear winner i bet a dozen dozen could go off and we wouldn't even notice it. It'd just be some cool stuff to watch. That can't be true. It's absolutely true. A dozen could go off and we wouldn't notice.
Starting point is 03:06:32 Yeah, I don't think we'd know anything about it here. Chernobyl went off and I don't think anyone noticed. I'd like to see us nuke. Why don't we nuke the moon? Just everybody nukes the moon to show we're serious and to see how big everyone's explosions are. That'll reinforce the mutually assured destruction. We can make fun of the people with like.
Starting point is 03:06:48 I think we already have that information. Missiles that don't make it all the way. Yeah, they have crappy. We're like, yeah, Kim Jong. We're all down for the missile off. You just got to play by the rules. You got to go for the moon. And he's like, oh, I can't get to the moon.
Starting point is 03:07:00 And it's like, you know, shit. I can get to Japan. That's Kim Jong Un voice. Oh. and it's like it's okay to do to him because he's bad look i don't i don't want to that's how it works here's what i think would be awesome i think it'd be awesome if like like this is like movie worthy if if putin does that thing they teased the other day where he like demonstrates a nuclear weapon on the border or something like that let's just say a tactical nuclear weapon um something that makes a big mushroom cloud looks wild on cnn
Starting point is 03:07:41 but like these aren't pressure waves wiping out cities don't think that then like they sweep him out of power like i feel like if he does that like like he's gonna lose power i feel like enough of them won't stand behind the other thing is it i wonder if he gave the order if they'd even do it because i don't think they have a system exactly like ours i think the general there are generals who are responsible for certain amounts of nuclear weapons they're like that general is responsible for these and they'd have to take that order and then pass it on so so i i think there's been some speculation you think it'll be kind of like a uh stanislav petrov thing where he's like no i'm buck stops here i'm not launching i think they'd stand down
Starting point is 03:08:25 i i think i think if he was like yeah fucking put one in warsaw or wherever the fuck like like i think i'm just gonna say no stanislaw petrov i can't let that go i i think i'm with most of our viewers who are like was that monomorph or two i love so he was a r a Russian guy during the cold war who had the button to launch the nukes and didn't do it. And he's like he was one button press away from like wiping out human existence in 1982, I think. 81 or 82. He was at an outpost on the western border of Russia. was at an outpost uh on the western border of russia and he was just a high-ranking officer who was in charge of watching the uh missile defense system like to see if the u.s launched anything and there was a glitch and his radar gave him uh the message that the u.s had launched
Starting point is 03:09:20 six nukes and they were in the air and there was approximately like 15 minutes till impact so he picks up the phone to call the like straight to the kremlin and say launch the nukes now counter-attack and he picks up the phone and freezes and thinks to himself if the united states launched six nukes if the united states were to attack us they would probably launch more than six so he decides to wait which if this guy's wrong he's single-handedly losing the war wiping out his country for everyone no one can get to any shelters there would be no counter-attack did they say how many weapons he was able to launch uh he was the like front man that and he was also the highest officer there. So if this guy says that America's launched nukes, the
Starting point is 03:10:08 entire country militarizes instantly. Fires back on all they've got. So he essentially had the button. I watched the whole video about the nuclear deterrence situation and where all of our nuclear weapons were and what they were composed of. It was really interesting.
Starting point is 03:10:24 70% are in submarines because each of those missiles and like these numbers are wrong but the submarine holds like a dozen missiles and each missile has like five warheads in it that can hit five different cities so you've you know that's 60 per one missile launches and then they separate and they can hit five goes into space it goes up into space and then you've got a multiple reentry vehicle. It's a MERV, whatever that acronym stands for. But you've got five warheads and they all split up and go to five different cities from each one. And there's at least a dozen per submarine. And we've got a bunch of those submarines.
Starting point is 03:11:01 Maybe not a hundred or anything. I think there's like a dozen or 20 of those submarines. Like 70% of our total of like roughly 1500 is there and then i think there's a bunch of them out west in like the dakotas and wyoming midwest area and those silos like 400 maybe and uh and then the rest of them are like conventional and tactical things that are on missiles, bombs, and other delivery systems that are less prevalent. But it was a fun video because
Starting point is 03:11:31 if you live out there near those silos, you know 100% there is a missile from the Soviets aimed at you right now. There is one with your name literally on it. Is that even the strategy? The missiles take, I'm making it up, 20 minutes to get here. right now there is one with your name literally on it it's like yeah missile 37 strategy like the missiles take i'm making it up 20 minutes to get here is your goal to take out my missile silo
Starting point is 03:11:52 because bro that's not gonna work right yeah it will work yeah if they hit the silo the missiles die um so but they should be aiming for like st louis control centers they're aiming for st louis too but but there's a missile for every missile. So 400 of the Soviet's missiles are coming for our silos. But then there's another like 1200 I think they have for our cities
Starting point is 03:12:16 and military hot spots. God damn it, according to this, I am gonna die. Oh yeah, you're fucked. St. Louis? I'm a sound military planner. What do you know some shit? You think Putin is gonna get out of power? gonna die oh yeah you're St. Louis I'm a sound military planner you think Putin is gonna get out of power like let's assume he loses
Starting point is 03:12:31 this war he's going to lose the war I it looks like it I agree can he lose the war and just be like yeah those grapes were sour anyway it'll just be like a reframing of his initial goals in a way that's charitable to him.
Starting point is 03:12:47 Like it was probably what it would be like, Oh, we kept him out of NATO for a bit. We got this little strip of this down there either briefly, or they'll still like, whoever knows, like they'll lose all the land, lose Crimea.
Starting point is 03:13:02 They'll join NATO. And he'll be like, that's what I really meant. If that happened, that would be an unequivocal loss from his point of view. But let's say one of those Eastern, more pro-Russia regions, if they joined him,
Starting point is 03:13:16 he would just pivot and be like, that's all we wanted, mission accomplished. That's what we... It would just be like... Because all the leaders do that. We're going to do this and that, and then they don't. We'll actually accomplish what we wanted. That's what I'm saying. I'm about to do that. Ukraine's been taking back a ton of land,
Starting point is 03:13:32 which is cool. Ukraine pushed back 12 miles in a few days. Yeah, that's a big deal. I've heard both. I have heard easy come, easy go. Like, hey, the reasons the Russians lost this is they were kind of spread out and it's not that hard to get them on the run etc but when you take he said 12 miles
Starting point is 03:13:50 but i think that it's been more than that oh if you stretch back like two weeks and if you take your army and push them forward 100 miles or something then you're not well fortified either like you don't have a lot of entrenched positions you don't have a defensible thing you've just ran forward as quickly as i could run backwards and easy come easy go i've also heard ukraine's have a huge advantage in that it's their country so when they retake land all the people that live there are on your side you don't need to like put security in the cities to hold it for yourself does that apply to like the eastern portions where there's a bunch of like militias because they like because like what you're talking about is that there are some parts of ukraine that actually want to be part of russia like the yeah the eastern part where they're where they like fucking speak russian and shit do they all speak russian what do ukrainians speak
Starting point is 03:14:38 ukraine no not no no uh like eastern ukraine like they all speak ukrainian it's like those that little like chunk on the far east that are you telling me ukrainian's a language i'm so fucking hot it's like very very similar to russian right uh much like boston speak bostonian i don't know it's like a particular dialect because i have a friend who speaks ukrainian and he can get by in russian in conversation so super close then so i don't i don't know how interchangeable the languages are but but the ukrainian i knew spoke russian and the russian i knew spoke ukrainian so it's got to be really close it's like a lot of people i knew did i i don't know what's going to happen this war it's it's got a lot of people i knew did i i don't know what's going to happen this war it's it's
Starting point is 03:15:28 really a head scratcher because this guy cares so much about his image and man his image is being trashed internationally and at home you know you saw that statistic where like i believe 700,000 russian men have already fled the country to avoid potentially being drafted into this war where are they going you know oh i know where they're going they're going to kazakhstan and georgia and lithuania is where they're actually going but like how long are they going to be there before they come back because this doesn't seem like something that's going to be over soon i think both sides want to see how war treat how winter treats them and if the ukrainians are still kicking ass in the spring like what are the russians gonna do
Starting point is 03:16:06 you might be right i don't know a damn thing about war i don't either it looks like they're gonna win in the next two and a half weeks jesus i was thinking like what happens if they start invading russia start taking some of that over i don't know i don't know let's go let's not let's start world war three oh, did they not like being invaded by foreign powers? They just didn't like that. Would that be a
Starting point is 03:16:33 trigger for them? It literally would be a trigger. A trigger to avoid. A trigger that's not good for anyone. Well, what about Crimea, Taylor? Is that Russia? Russia thinks it's Russia. They think that's not good for anyone well what about crimea taylor like is that russia russia thinks it's russia they think it's russia for the last eight years yeah you know he's um he is yeah oh absolutely taylor carlson over there pitching russian propaganda
Starting point is 03:16:59 russian propaganda that a nuclear holocaust is bad for everyone. That's what the Russians want you to think. That's so funny. I think we could launch six nukes and not even notice. You wouldn't notice. Oh, you wouldn't notice. You wouldn't even know. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:17:16 Back when they were testing on those nukes in Bikini Atoll and like every day the ground shook and the poison clouds blew over us. Nah, it's way away. It's not, they're not that scary. The problem is when we shoot 3000 of them off and hit city centers at the
Starting point is 03:17:30 same time. I, I fantasize about this idea that the Russians nuke Ukraine and then the jet stream just carries it across Russia. And by the time it gets to Canada, it's all filtered and fine. I, I,
Starting point is 03:17:42 it's all filtered and fine. That's science-y. That's how it works. Oh, no, it makes us strong. We get fucking yoked out of that fallout. Captain America. Radioactive Canadians. There we go. It's 10% leaner.
Starting point is 03:17:59 Now you have my attention. What we need to figure out is how far north in Canada we need to nuke for it to kind of be a Goldilocks zone of super strength for us here in America. For superior hockey players. For superior hockey players. Or just being jacked.
Starting point is 03:18:14 I like the way you think. It's a good idea. We can sacrifice the northern states. They're fine. We don't need them. Mason Dixon down. Purebred. It doesn't seem like Putin has a ton of options.
Starting point is 03:18:29 I guess we are ignorant about this thing. It's a geopolitical event with major countries and all these moving parts. Meanwhile, we can serve in the infantry. No, of course not. We don't know. I played a lot of paintball, man. Come on. You know how much ball-plating I've played? Dude, I'm leaning on my Civ experience as a relevantugliati I've played? Dude, I'm leaning on my Civ
Starting point is 03:18:45 experience as a relevant factor here. I think it matters. As I'm watching this go down, I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. I'm leaning on my CPG Grey videos on leadership. I'm quickly becoming quite the tactician. You're forgetting about the part at the end of
Starting point is 03:19:01 Civ where you just nuke the world into submission. If I wish to. I'm usually a peaceful overlord. Are you usually benevolent? You're a diplomacy victory? Oh, yes. I usually fly away, do the space victory. But I don't know how this stops
Starting point is 03:19:20 because Ukrainians will not stop, okay? Let's just pretend like that's 100%. They'll never stop. You don't think they'll stop when they take Ukraine back? Oh, yeah. If they took Ukraine back, I think they would stop. I don't think they'll give up. They won't give up.
Starting point is 03:19:36 They won't give up until their goals are met. I don't see that happening. I also don't think the United States will stop funding them as long as they can still fight. So that means that they will keep fighting effectively for as long as they need to. So that being said, if you just accept those things as facts, where do we go from here? Because you've got a very stubborn country in Russia. Historically, if you look at how they fight wars, oh yeah?
Starting point is 03:20:03 You know how many russians there are even when you play them in a video game going back to the silliness of like you play a company of heroes or whatever it was that that when you play the russians your squads have like eight ten guys in them everybody else is like a six-man squad your guys are hustling though because they're in tatters like they're penal i think there were penal squads or something that you're sending in. Yeah, something like that. Not very accurate. The Russians seem like the last people
Starting point is 03:20:30 to say, you know what? Maybe we should pack it in. It would take the negotiation. Think about how the mobilization is going. I don't know what they would even negotiate. I think that one key thing is going to be how much of our advanced stuff we let them fuck around with.
Starting point is 03:20:46 We've got these missile trucks. It's those M Rams or whatever the fuck they're called. Just call it a rocket truck. Okay. And then everybody knows what we're talking about. And we've got real good ones, right? Of course,
Starting point is 03:20:57 you know, they're probably three stages ahead of what anybody else has. And, um, they can shoot really, really far behind the front lines and hit the supply depots and cause havoc. And that's what they want now, the Ukrainians.
Starting point is 03:21:12 They've got plenty of javelins. That part of the war is seemingly over. The defensive stop their tanks part of the war. Now they're wanting these long-range artillery and missile artillery systems to strike really deep in there and hit their supply lines hit their uh command centers and stuff like that that's what they're begging for that and ammo for their artillery that they do have an aspect of this war that i'm loving like as ukraine started its recent push when did they really start pushing two and a half weeks ago something like that
Starting point is 03:21:41 roughly yeah yeah they were an infantry right they're people on foot with hiking boots and guns pushing forward and then they became like i don't know as uh something less than mechanized you know it's like mad max a little bit they do they've been collected they're a mechanized unit now they keep collecting more and more russian hardware they get like fucking missiles they're getting artillery they were low on artillery the ukrainian army did not have enough fucking like those big bullets that you put the art ammo now they have more than they need why because the russians are leaving them behind as they run for their lives they're getting tanks they're getting ammo they are flush with equipment now because, because they keep taking over Russian shit.
Starting point is 03:22:27 I watched an interview with a Russian or Ukrainian tanker from like today's battle. It's wild. How quick you get like modern war. And he's like, and you get, it's translated, but you can kind of tell in the flexion of him.
Starting point is 03:22:37 He's being, he's proud. He's like, we showed up and they thought we'd be in trucks. We were in tank. We had three tanks. and when they saw that they no longer wished to contend with the fight now we have four towns that happened and then like you show him driving and he's like and he's dragging their fucking tank home with him now let's fight for Ukraine! Slava Ukraine!
Starting point is 03:23:06 And everybody there, it's like out of Starship Troopers or something like that, where everybody's like, fuck yeah! Slava Ukraine! Everybody there is so jazzed on their mission at hand, that with that fighting spirit,
Starting point is 03:23:20 they're not going to stop, man. They're into what they're doing they're like they're hurting people that they don't like fighting for their land and then the the you couldn't have a more um other end of the spectrum type situation with the russians who are being drugged to the battlefield and thrown into the fray with substandard shit told to rob and find tampons you know to treat bullet wounds you tell me to go find my own... They're having to buy their own sleeping bags? Can I interrupt?
Starting point is 03:23:49 You know that video we talked about earlier where there was a Russian hiding in the closet and they like... I got it right here. Anyways, so he's hiding in a closet. They shot him like 27 times. The top Reddit comment was like, he's gonna need a closet. They shot him like 27 times. The top Reddit comment was like,
Starting point is 03:24:05 he's going to need a whole box of tampons. Yeah, they're like so ill-equipped that they're using tampons and picking bullets up off the ground. That looks very fucking bad. That's not a fun place to be. Not a fun place to be is that poor Russian guy
Starting point is 03:24:24 that gets like that dragged at point of gun and forced to fight a war he doesn't want to but also like like we've made the point before on the world stage it makes them appear weak like it it is a bad look for russia globally it's a good time it does make russia appear we're looking pretty pretty sick right now and we're looking pretty sick right now but one of my takeaways woody the military planner don't fucking invade other countries it's really hard we just lost in afghanistan and we're the united states of america russia just lost in ukraine and they're russia you know i don't know what happened in iraq but i don't
Starting point is 03:24:57 take it as a clear-cut victory like we kicked ass or anything saddam's dead so i'm calling it a win but it's kind of hard to occupy a place and make him your friend. Don't go into some other country looking for war. It's harder than you think. And Afghanistan did not have NATO providing top-of-the-line equipment and military. Yes, it did. The Soviets flew their fucking helis. The Soviets did, but we're talking about how much worse their shit was than ours.
Starting point is 03:25:28 Are you talking about the recent Afghanistan war, Kyle? Yeah. I'm talking about when the Soviets were fighting in Afghanistan and the CIA sent... No, I'm talking about the Taliban and like recently. I'm talking about... Taylor is saying we just lost in Afghanistan and the Afghanis were not being supplied with NATO shit making a comparison to you guys what Kyle was talking about was
Starting point is 03:25:50 the old one Charlie Wilson's war that was the equipment they were fighting against us with from the 80s sure but they're still like stinger missiles and whatnot it's like it's like isis with
Starting point is 03:26:06 their new tacomas it's like where'd you it's like where'd you get a tacoma that said bill's quality house painting with the minneapolis area code but just the same like we lost in afghanistan we did but that's not a win you can't possibly call that a win. The bad guys are in charge of it. Don't invade other countries. It's really hard. The bad guys' friends are in charge of it. We were there for Al-Qaeda. And we got them.
Starting point is 03:26:36 The Taliban was in charge before and after the war. And they were holding the Al-Qaeda members that we wanted. So we fucked them up for years. Mark one plumbing. And then once we got all the Al-Q members that we wanted and so we fucked them up for years. Mark one plumbing. Once we got all the Al Qaeda taken care of, we moved along. That's hilarious. Poor Mark. Look at how that truck organically ended up
Starting point is 03:26:53 in the Middle East. What are you implying? Dude, that fucking CIA sent Tacomas or something? There's something going on with this. They didn't organically get a bunch of Japanese cars. We sent a ton of equipment
Starting point is 03:27:09 over there. We send stuff all the time to countries that were not officially and we send operatives to pull strings behind closed doors. It's all shadow stuff. I feel like Taylor's implying the US government sent Tacomas to our enemies. Maybe I'm missing it.
Starting point is 03:27:26 We do supply a lot of moderate rebel groups all over the world and we have done that and then as soon as we decide they're no longer moderate and we have different narratives and like goals we go oh these people are moderate now they're mad men and they're like often still using the shit we gave oh my favorite thing ever is at the end of i think it's rambo three have you seen the end title card oh yeah kyle loves this he talks about fun party conversation yeah the dealer sold it at auction that's my take on it like these things just get sold at auction or whatever and land up anywhere in the world i don't think the cia is giving mark one plumbing trucks to the no no no they're not doing
Starting point is 03:28:11 that it's the fact that they're supplying groups in the area and then that equipment eventually rolls up and ends in someone else's hands they're not directly at least not intentionally directly shipping them to al-qaeda. They're like, there's a small rebel group who's helping the Americans. Let's send them stuff. And then whenever they get wiped out, it's like, ah, how did they get all these... They get wiped out or they only pretend to be our friends.
Starting point is 03:28:36 That's the other thing that happens. Y'all want to make a little World Series bet? We'll change it. I think we've all got teams. The Phillies losing in the first round. Who wants to bet against me? See, I knew it's kind of hard to go three ways. What I thought was, since we've got three teams in the mix,
Starting point is 03:28:55 maybe we all just throw a small amount of money into the pile and the winner of the World Series gets the money. I feel like sitting on the Braves. $5 each. Taylor and I are sitting on wild cards. Yeah. I mean, do we have to pick our own team? Not necessarily.
Starting point is 03:29:11 Yeah. Yeah. You got to pick your own team. Yeah. What do you, you gotta, but you have the best team. I have the third best team.
Starting point is 03:29:18 No, it's the best team. Yeah. But the Braves are better than the Cardinals and the Phillies. Well, yeah. All right. So this is an operation. Give $10 to Kyle.
Starting point is 03:29:32 All right. Fair, fair, fair. All right. Pick your own teams then. Who's good? Who's the best? You're going to pick the fucking Dodgers. I'm just giving away money.
Starting point is 03:29:40 You know what? I didn't think this out. $5 on the Cardinals. I'll do the Cardinals. I'll do the Cardinals. I'll do the Cardinals. Yachty and fucking... I don't want to tie Woody to the Phillies now, though. I regret the whole thing.
Starting point is 03:29:52 I honestly think of it from a standpoint of my team being quite good. I'm looking at the odds that the Braves are seven times more likely to win than the Phillies based on this thing I'm looking at. Yeah. We'll know very quickly which one of us is out. Seven times more likely to win than the Phillies based on this thing I'm looking at. We'll know very quickly which one of us is out.
Starting point is 03:30:14 I'm not a current baseball expert, but I'll say this. Mets are quite strong despite what they just did. LA is so goddamn strong. They're our real rival, if you ask me. That's who i'm afraid of every year is dealing with the dodgers like they've got such a such a great team all right i don't want to be the kind of front runner that picks the dodgers i'll take houston i'll fall on my sword houston by the way just so you know like you probably do they are the most loathed team perhaps in all sports because because of the cheating scandal.
Starting point is 03:30:46 Oh, yeah. Yeah. What did they do? You guys just don't like out-of-the-box thinking. Some of them had vibrators on their body to signal what pitchers were coming. Say no more. Say less, Kyle. They had a camera system that recorded the signs and then a program that interpreted that into data that was then relayed to the hitters via either a vibrator or striking a trash can in the dugout to indicate that a breaking pitch was coming.
Starting point is 03:31:13 It's important because of the timing, right? When they're going back and forth between breaking pitches and fastballs, it's all about your timing. When you start that swing, you're throwing them off. If they know when the breaking pitch has come their their timing can be right that's when the astros won a fucking world series cheating their way all the way if your bullshit brave uniform doesn't include a vibrating butt plug then i don't want to know you we're not friends we've got a tomahawk that's cool have you seen uh the um the chess cheating scandal have you heard about that oh
Starting point is 03:31:47 i know all about it the poker part of it is more um something that i have some expertise about because i think i'm not the fish cheating all around so so start with the chess thing because you know more about that one than me please not too much but there's an american player this is what he claims he says that he cheated in online chess because while he is a grandmaster quality player, to get to the tournaments, he needed to get a grandmaster quality ranking. So he would cheat now and then just to quickly rank up in the world standings. But when he goes and does these live events or when he does these bigger like i think they might be online he's not cheating in those he only cheated to get to those and he only did
Starting point is 03:32:31 it like a couple times that's what his account so that he could play ranked thank you yeah yeah thank you that's that's well phrased and um but in chess and this is outside my expertise they like track every move. And they can kind of tell when you're playing like you and when you're playing like a super bot. If you guys don't know poker at all, the AI is the best player in the world. Back in the 90s, when chess players and AI were first sort of battling it off, IBM's big blue against chess, it was close. And they went back and forth. of battling it off ibm's big blue against it it was close and they went back and forth like finally the computer beat the best player and the best player was able to sort of beat the
Starting point is 03:33:09 computer again that question is solved my fucking iphone is the best player that the planet has ever seen it comes with a new strategy every move you know it's it's it's continuously adapting to what you've done to it you can't it's optimizing if you cheat, you are the best player on the planet. Boom. It's no longer up for debate. And there are a couple of ways players cheated. Sometimes they go to the bathroom. And I think what they do is they memorize the board and have their computer suggest the next move.
Starting point is 03:33:40 Chess grandmasters, by the way, are the type who can memorize a chess board quite easily. Yeah. That seems like a feat to me. But to it's like it's their job it's like this yeah exactly to them it i don't know yeah everything you said so um they made it they made the bathroom trick impossible to do now they're kind of like surveyed or something while they go to the bathroom but um people think that he's still cheating even in live things and i literally the vibrating butt plug was something i'd seen thrown out there i don't know i don't know how he's doing this it didn't look like there was evidence for the vibrating butt plug thing when i looked into it but like and you're right i don't know anything
Starting point is 03:34:21 about chess but a bunch of like big chess people were like, hey, hope this helps you understand. In chess, you can have a 100% game where everything you do is the correct move for your strategy or whatever it is. And they were saying it's so rare to have one of these that a person, a 46 move game, it's impossible. You will never have a hundred percent game the best player in the world magnus carlson you look at his like online stuff and he's got like 190 ever and then a couple 80s and then like maybe like you know more as you go down this other guy who's not nearly the fucking player that this that magnus carlson is in person this other guy has like multiple perfects like multiple like a bunch of 90 and like these chess people are out here saying like yeah this is like as a chess guy this is indicative of cheating no one makes moves like this this consistently correct it's not true and then i don't know enough but that seemed like salient and everyone in the comments other chess people were like yeah i'm surprised it took them this long to notice the 100 complete game the 95 whatever again, I'm like you. I don't know very much about chess. I know what the pieces
Starting point is 03:35:26 do. That's my extent. But in poker, while I might not practice it at the highest levels, I think that I've studied it at the highest levels. And what happened in this poker game, it's a game that I've watched a good bit, or at least some players
Starting point is 03:35:42 that I know of quite well. This is Garrett Guy. He's a very good poker he plays at very high stakes hundreds of thousands of dollars on the player uh on on the table and um i what i read the the the comments on on reddit and these people like didn't think there was any cheating going on i'm going to get into what happened but but but but it was because they don't understand poker. So I could go into a boring thing and explain like poker, but then you'll be like, yeah,
Starting point is 03:36:11 but how do you know? Just trust me on this. He's a better poker player than her by far. But what she did only makes sense. If you know what the cards are, or if someone who does know what the cards are is giving you a green button or a red button if it's as simple as that like maybe you don't have to learn morse code to work this system out maybe you've got a vibrator in your butt and
Starting point is 03:36:38 if it every time that you like sort of it's your turn to act if you get a buzz that's green go it means better raise whichever you want to do like like it could be that dumb of a system and whoever was feeding her the green button like it what she did makes no sense he raised her a tremendous amount of money now he doesn't have anything as the the people on Reddit keep pointing out. That doesn't matter. He has made her have to come up with $100,000 if she believes her hand is stronger. Her hand is jack high. She has no coordination here whatsoever. She is going on a high card. Just the jack. I's the high he what he has is a straight flush draw that's why he's so invested in his hand any club uh will make him a flush very strong hand or any uh six or um jack will make him a uh a straight and of course there's a possibility of straight flush
Starting point is 03:37:39 there there as well but that gives him a very strong drawing hand you can see even here he's ahead percentage wise on the outcome with one more card to go because he has so many possible there as well but that gives him a very strong drawing hand you can see even here he's ahead percentage wise on the outcome with one more card to go because he has so many possible cards that can make his hand that's how good good his drawing hand is his moves are all perfect she calls he says it'll take all of your money if you think you've got the best hand essentially she has jack high the board has two tens on it like if he's saying i got a 10 or better and she's saying i don't believe you i don't think you have anything in fact i don't think you have a card in your hand that's larger than a jack
Starting point is 03:38:15 if he just has a queen a king or an ace in his hand there are no kings queens or aces on the board then he wins because he's got high card she called for like a hundred something thousand dollars and he's like he's sitting there like i've played tens of thousands of hundreds of thousands maybe millions of hands and i've never seen anything like this he's like what just happened what just happened she gave the money back a backstage and nobody gives back 120 000 or whatever unless they're in the wrong. That's bizarre that she gave it back. I didn't know.
Starting point is 03:38:50 Me as a poker somewhat knowledgeable person, seeing that, everything about that screen is cheap. Now some people would say Garrett's a big guy in the industry. You rub Garrett the wrong way. You don't get invited to games. You don't get invited to TV games.
Starting point is 03:39:06 If you're in TV games, you get sponsorship money. Fuck what you win at poker. You've got a blah, blah, blah tag on your shirt. It's that sort of game sometimes. So you could see it that way, but I don't see it that way. Even if all that's true, she was still cheating. That's why she gave the money back.
Starting point is 03:39:23 Yeah, they're giving the money back. And she doesn't make that move you don't sit at that table if you're retarded there's some people on reddit who are like maybe she's just a dumb blonde look at her it's like all right you're being a sex piece of shit first of all she's not at that table unless she's a high level poker player i'm sure she's better than me which is why i know she should not be doing that she's it's insane i i think she's cheating um or laid that out really well that makes sense if it If it were online, then everyone would say, misclick. Like you accidentally clicked the wrong button.
Starting point is 03:39:50 It would be a clear misclick. That's the theory everyone would go with. Was she clicked on the wrong button? She clicked instead of fold, she clicked call. I can't get past the percentages, though. She had a 47% chance of winning, which I'll admit is less than 50. But it wasn't that crazy his hand i know i i recognize that he had two clubs and there was one or two clubs i think there were two clubs in the straight flush draw on the river so all he
Starting point is 03:40:16 had a one in four chance of getting another club and turning it into something but it didn't seem like the lock that like you were like there are so many cards oh it's not a lock he's just making the right moves he like everything he's doing is correct okay but he everything he's doing is correct but that's irrelevant whether you believe that or whether you believe that or not her moves are they make no sense yeah i also see that side right she has jack high why are you going so heavy on a jack high right yeah even if you don't understand why he raises there with just a straight flush draw it's the correct thing to do you're going to be very aggressive there when you have that you're like i'll put all my money on the table for this like it's such a strong draw that
Starting point is 03:41:03 there are very few hands that just have you outright beat like you you have a fighting chance no matter what and then being aggressive there she's supposed to fold all of her nines and some of her tens i think even there i yeah you'd have to run that through a calculator i might be overstepping with the tens but like she's supposed to fold very strong hands there when you plug that into a calculator. I mean, and poker is also a,
Starting point is 03:41:28 I wouldn't say a solved game, but there's poker calculators that tell you exactly what variances you should be playing and what you should be doing X percentage of times. The chess thing is interesting. I don't. So you say go or no go, right? Bet more,
Starting point is 03:41:42 bet less in poker. And I kind of get it. How does one cheat at chess? How do you tell me the move I need to make with just a vibrating butt plug? How do we devise a communication system around my vibrating butt plug? It vibrates a Morse code. I can't decode Morse looking at dots and dashes so one thought i have remember they are chess grandmasters bright guys so i have
Starting point is 03:42:13 i have an app for those plugs and one thing you can do instead of like just saying on off you can use a song it It'll play a song. And so, again, don't know much about chess, but I've heard of like, there are moves and strategies that have names. I'm moving on. I'm picking my song already.
Starting point is 03:42:36 I can make my life be like, Oh, too like a heart. Y-M-C-H. Yeah, there's lots of things. But I know that in in chess there are like strategies and like techniques or whatever like like that have names like oh that's the the melinovki uh maneuver like yes maybe if you had like eight maneuvers or whatever you call them that and like they each had a song or that like maybe ymca was the melikovsky maneuver and if your buddy was plugging the melikovsky maneuver in and it was killing this guy he goes fucking roll it out and you're like all right let's go i'm thinking
Starting point is 03:43:19 melikovsky maneuver a reminder again to the players to turn their phones off you're just the guys randomly like A reminder again to the players to turn their phones off. You're just the guys randomly like, Oh, I think the solution for this is make them sit in metal chairs. No, they go in really deep. So, so there's,
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Starting point is 03:44:19 wild dude do you want to lay it out? Yeah. So apparently, you know, there's fishing competitions and the way that they judge them is total weight of your haul, I guess. Or I guess you get to pick five fish and the most weight you can get with that. And this guy got caught putting fillets of other fish, stuffing it into it, into the fish that he caught and also putting lead balls into the fish big lead balls and he gets caught and there's all these fishermen around like i'm almost scared for the life of the guy as the clip is going because these guys are frothing at the mouth like you fucking cheater you've made hundreds of thousands of dollars from this how many times have you done this really they said fuck you and then like the guy the guy who's like oh like who's dealing with the cheating who's i guess must be the kind of arbiter of the situation he's like john who's the guy who cheated he's like john
Starting point is 03:45:15 you gotta leave you gotta leave right now and he tells everyone else he's like everyone do not assault him on the way to the car let him him go to his car. We're going to handle this. Let him go. Let it go to the car. And so the guy leaves, goes to his car, and they start going through. And you can just hear a chorus of fishermen behind. Those things are huge. He had two of those in one
Starting point is 03:45:38 single fish. I think there were four of those balls in the bottom of the crate. But there were probably seven fish fillets two three four or three or four of those and so this guy i guess the win for this was like in the tens of thousands of dollars maybe a hundred thousand dollars it's serious fucking money it's real money and this guy has done this yeah his sponsors these are like they're they're professional he won the previous year the same competition so i And he's won many other competitions. I'm making this part up, but I'm implying
Starting point is 03:46:05 he beat these same people last year. They lost to him last year, perhaps unfairly. So, this is one of those good old boy sports, too, where he's done. He's done now. He is fucking done.
Starting point is 03:46:20 I think if you get caught cheating in a tennis match, nobody's going to whip your ass. Right. Like they might even laugh about it. Oh, nice fucking fancy racket, Mr. Oh, furry balls. Yeah. Yeah. But but like in this dude slipping some lead balls in his I guarantee you like, yeah, you'd have to be like, please don't assault him.
Starting point is 03:46:42 Yeah. Here. No one. No one heard him here. I don't want that to happen. No one here. And now should have stopped. Like, look at that.
Starting point is 03:46:52 I didn't. I way underestimated. So I think he's using the fillet of fish to like. Fucking rain man over here. Oh, there's 10 definitely definitely 10 balls I know like good old boys who during tournaments are like oh just drop a sinker in
Starting point is 03:47:18 its mouth this fish would have shot straight to the bottom of the tank what the heck no one thought it was suspicious when it was upside down. You can shake it and it's clinking. Apparently they think this guy cheated a lot
Starting point is 03:47:34 and they busted him for this one. He's earned hundreds of thousands of dollars over his career. I was learning about the different ways to cheat in these fishing tournaments. What some people do is they catch fish in advance and then trap them underwater.
Starting point is 03:47:50 Then on fishing day, they just go and collect the fish that they had previously caught without a time limit. What this guy did, he went to a local store and bought fish and stuffed them with lead. He didn't even catch fish.
Starting point is 03:48:04 He didn't catch those fish? No, he didn't catch them. He bought them at the store, put lead weights in them. He doesn't even try. He's not even fishing at all? No, he bought the fish. We could have done this. What's the penalty?
Starting point is 03:48:20 What's the penalty? Apparently the penalty is people are like pissed at you. Taylor, don't you... Go down to the Ozarks and fucking run this scam, dude. If an ass whooping is all... Look, the prize money will allow you to afford a bodyguard. Okay? Those fucking Ozark people will kill me.
Starting point is 03:48:38 That's what the bodyguard is for! When you're driving around the Ozarks, you can be like, they're here for the like they're here they live here like locals the local no dude he's in like he's in like a lake just some lake and he has like oh i caught a mahi mahi out here is that fraud yeah it would be fraud right like there's money on the line you're cheating you probably have to go after him participate in it i want to know what happens to him do his sponsors sue him for fraud um do the competitors the tournament owners i have a feeling he's just going to be blackballed and it's as small as that yeah maybe what did he do go out there and just
Starting point is 03:49:23 pretend to fish yeah because normally they'll catch a couple but he's just out there with the cigarette like the other thing is like me just oh no i didn't get one oh well like like it's not like he's out there for like an afternoon it was like hours and hours and hours a lot many of them are multi-day tournaments yeah out there like like all weekend or or maybe like three or four days what the fuck is he're out there all weekend or maybe three or four days. What the fuck is he doing out there? I can imagine him on the lake just pissed off. This fucking sucks.
Starting point is 03:49:52 All the other children are vibrating butt plugs. You know what he's doing? He is fishing. He is fishing and he's hoping that he'll catch one bigger than one of his store-bought fish. But if he doesn't, who fucking cares? He's having a great time fishing for fun. That's what he's doing. This is great. The guy that caught him's name is
Starting point is 03:50:08 Mr. Fisher. No, it's not. He is the rightful champion of the tournament. I've told this so many times. My father, an accountant, had a client, gynecologist. His name was Dr. Bush. Dr. Bush.
Starting point is 03:50:23 That's a solid gynecologist name i bet this guy yes man in some legal trouble he should work i told you about that guy who who scammed the buckarama by like going through the whole process of beating the lie detector um because what's the buckarama it's one of those who kills the biggest deer this year contest oh okay yeah and it's it's similar to these bass fishing things like boats and trucks and guns and prize money of like 10, 20 grand can be, it can be up for grabs. And they, they throw you on a lie detector apparently. And they're like, Hey, did you kill this during the lawful act of regular hunting?
Starting point is 03:50:56 Some question like that, that basically means, Hey, were you out hunting and not cheating spotlighting? Did you do anything wrong? Did you do this the right way? And it's in, so the guy could say, he bought his license climbed a tree put his uh you know orange on and then shot a deer in a pen that he'd been raising for years to be a mighty deer a mighty deer because like one of the genetics are important but like nutrition is almost equally important within building those big racks that you want.
Starting point is 03:51:26 Most of those deer are starving half the time, and they look like shit. That's why we're talking about the deer down here are smaller, and there's not as much meat on them. Texas deer are pretty big. I was going to say, when Woody brought up Mr. Bush, we're casting for the Stalker movie right now, and we just finished casting. One of the guys who auditioned his name was max pink and that's the funniest name i remember his name's literally
Starting point is 03:51:51 maximum the guy's a lady killer instead of maximilian the full name being maximum i like that maximum yeah i agree maximum good name that's a powerful name if you can pick a guy Maximum. I like that more. Maximum, yeah. I agree. Maximum. That's a powerful name. If you could pick a guy named Maximum. If you could pick a new name, what would it be? Maximum. What would your new last name be? Max.
Starting point is 03:52:22 I could just do the Homer Simpson one. Max Power. Max Power. Max Power was probably the best fake name. Max is a strong first name. Chad Force. X is a cool letter. What about Chad Force? Chad Force.
Starting point is 03:52:37 I like that. Why not Max Force? You're sleeping on Max. Max is decidedly the best. There's some celebrity who named his kid Danger. I think it might be uh cowboy serrani i think maybe his son no his name his kids are like walker oh okay yeah fighters all named i think i think cowboy also has like dumb named kids i think they're like walker and
Starting point is 03:52:56 texas ranger or something it's something dumb like that you wouldn't you wouldn't go for like a max power what would you do his name is rush i messed it up maybe it is cowboy i don't know man i guess it depends what you're gonna do i guess if you're gonna be like i don't know if you want like a snappy name then like max power or something like that's pretty hell yeah it is do you want to be a chad or do you want to avoid the memes we can both be max power if you want oh Oh. We can all be Max Power, guys. It's a name that keeps on giving. Powerful name.
Starting point is 03:53:29 Hi, welcome to the Max Power Triumvirate. What is it? That new word I'm trying to learn? The Triumbrum? The Triumvirate. Triumvirate. That's what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:53:41 Yeah. Yeah. It's the Max Power Triumvirate. That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the Max Power Triangle.
Starting point is 03:53:50 Johnny Cash's grandson is named Tennessee Cash. Well, that's terrible. I think that's cool. For the grandson of Johnny Cash, I think you get a pass. Yeah. I think that's a cool name. That's a very... Tennessee Cash rolls off the tongue a little bit. I like it.
Starting point is 03:54:03 I also knew a guy named Cash Price. That guy wasn't as cool. That is a good one. Cash Price. Magnus Power. Oh, Max Price. That's a good name. Magnus Power.
Starting point is 03:54:18 No, no. I don't like Magnus as much. Max. Maximus. No, not Maximus. No, I'm coming up. No, you know what? Max. All right. If we're not going to do the World Series bet,
Starting point is 03:54:28 then perhaps... I'll do the World Series bet. I don't care. I'll bet on the Cardinals. You and me, $5 Braves against Cardinals. I would like to do an MMA bet with Woody, though, if he is up for it. Let's do the Oliveira card and see if we disagree
Starting point is 03:54:43 anywhere. Oliveiraa Makachev. How do you see that going? Not Makachev, Islam. I think you have it right. If not, it's super close. I'll take Olivera. Really? I know he's a 3-1 underdog,
Starting point is 03:55:01 but I think everybody's wrong but me. To be honest, I agree. I was hoping that that was going to be the case. That's why I brought this up. I wanted to take Oliveira and then have you take Islam because I agree with you. I'll take Islam. Yeah, and I'll give you even money. That's fair, but it's 3-1 if you go online right now.
Starting point is 03:55:19 I think it's a good bet. Everybody thinks that Oliveira is going to get smoked by that chin beard over there. I'm done underrating him i watched look i'm not an expert but i watched him fight dan hooker and i watched one of his other fights earlier and then i just sort of tried to like put the beast that is olivera that just eats eats eats punishment gets knocked down but it's okay down there because that's where he likes to be i don't know i when i put him in like dan hooker's body and like see the watch the fight play out it's like i think that i think that oliver is
Starting point is 03:55:51 getting the best of these positions i i i think maybe i'm wrong though he has this incredibly suffocating ground game wrestling sambo nonsense he so oliver when he beat ferguson and earned a title shot i was like i'm not sold anyone can every step of the way i doubt it anyone can beat the ghost of tony ferguson nowadays so then he beat chandler and i'm like all right chandler's the next cool kid but who has he beaten chandler specializes in fighting really well to a loss then he beat dustin poirier and i was like oh shit i thought poirier that's about as real as it gets holy if you beat dustin poirier you're legit and then he goes up against justin gaethje and i'm like hey you beat poirier and gaethje and then run through the rest of those guys you're the champ bro you were the fuck up the whole top five of his weight
Starting point is 03:56:46 division in like 18 months he's the goat if he's if he smokes this chin beard he is the goat in my opinion for lightweights he blows khabib out of the water for like like like his strength of schedule moving on sterling versus dillashaw i'm tj dillashaw all the way, and I don't even think it's close. I think he starches the fakery of Aljermaine Sterling. I love Sterling's story. For people that don't know it, in short, it's this. He goes up. Who does he semi-lose to? Is it
Starting point is 03:57:16 Peter Yan? Who's the guy that he fought and didn't really beat? Anyway, he goes up against the champ. He's getting his ass kicked for like four rounds and it's just looking bad along the way to the ass kicking he takes a knee to the head while he's down the ref is like can you keep going and he knows damn well that if he says no the other guy gets disqualified he becomes champ yeah so that's the route he takes now he's the champion the only
Starting point is 03:57:43 loser i know too and and then comes the rematch well it's fun because while he gets the route he takes. Now he's the champion, the only loser I know of. He won the rematch too. And then comes the rematch. Well, it's fun because while he gets the belt, he rests for a year. And that entire year, he trolls the MMA crowd being like, I had that dude so scared he had to cheat. He's acting as if he won the fight the whole time. He goes in finally for what I think is to face the music. He's been trash he's been kind of funny he's been winning me over but now he has to fight the guy who can kick his ass and proved already that he can kick his ass but it turns out he can't
Starting point is 03:58:15 and he gets the rematch and he beats the champ no beats the guy that i thought of as the champ yeah yeah yeah it was it it was a morty's mind blower for me, frankly. I still don't understand quite how it happened. But I am a big T.J. Dillashaw fan. If I ever get duped into taking my shirt off and beating somebody up for you people to watch somewhere, then I'm going full EPO. I love his style. I like when Bruce says his name, T.J. Dillashaw. It's cool. So I think he's going to really put on a show.
Starting point is 03:58:48 Dude's been safe. He's been taking the last two years off for personal reasons, to rehab some injuries and surface suspension. This is the fight I want. I'll take Sterling over Dillashaw for sure. Oh, thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:59:01 All right. And then I think we both know that Jan's's gonna beat the brakes off o'malley the question is what round do you want to go plus or minus in the rounds because i think it's before round three i don't think he makes it to round three how tall how much taller is o'malley i don't care care. I don't know. I don't care. Was he going to climb a ladder? I think he can keep him at distance
Starting point is 03:59:31 and maybe last into the third round if he's long enough. I think he's way longer. Dude, I'll take two bets. This is where my head is. I'll take Sterling, and I'll take round three or higher that O'Malley makes it to three or higher. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 03:59:47 Do you want either of those? I, I, I want to re renege on my O'Malley O'Malley thing. Cause I think I am giving away far too much to, for it to be a, an even bet on the, the round.
Starting point is 03:59:59 But I just, I just know that Jan's going to smoke him and it might be around one. I'm just not confident enough to call it like that. Man, it just doesn't seem... Well, then we'll just do the Sterling one. Yeah, yeah. I definitely got TJ Dillashaw to win, though. And then I got...
Starting point is 04:00:13 I'm not as... I would say Darius is winning. And I watched that Muhammad guy fight a couple of times with those dead eyes. And then you hear him talk, and you expect him to be like all you know la la la la la but he's uh really well spoken and he talks about like work ethic and like hanging out with khabib and uh training with him so i gotta put my money on him too so muhammad darius we
Starting point is 04:00:37 agree on those john to win tj to win and oliver to win yeah yeah i'll take uh all right so let's do two bets then i'll take sterling and uh my mouth but how do you pronounce his name makacheff i'll take those two okay cool that'll be that'll make it a lot more fun to watch um yeah five bucks five dollars each yeah that'll be fun we'll probably end up splitting it uh but but but yeah i'm very big card i'm very excited about it i haven't looked at the early prelims but i always get there and watch all that shit and for anybody who like normally doesn't like staying up all night and watching those things this is one of those that happens in abu dhabi so our time east coast at my time it's like 2 p.m when the fight started so it's pretty convenient that's not today on the
Starting point is 04:01:23 22nd so it's a couple Saturdays away yeah it's a couple away uh but but I'm I'm pretty excited for that one I I want to see that guy get tested and because if Olivera wins this one I really do think him as the goat at lightweight like he's just he smoked everybody it would be nice if he'd gotten Connor and he still might get his chance but but like that's the last feather in his cap without khabib coming back yeah i you're winning me over like let's go when you first said goat i was like no way greatest of all time what about and then yeah yeah lightweight goat i'm sorry and what about and it's like well who is the lightweight goat i guess you'd say khabib he went undefeated but on his strength of schedule i feel like olivier
Starting point is 04:02:07 has got him knocking him out one after another just just 18 months the whole top five like like that's ridiculous you cannot ask for anything more than that like they're nowhere in there could you have been like oh come on you didn't oh you did fight justin gaethje like the scariest meathead on the planet that just comes forward and and gives people brain damage um i don't know i don't know he's the goat if he survives this thing and what i hope is that he smokes this guy i really don't like khabib and his boys i i don't like anything about him i hope he smokes this guy embarrasses him even i hope that jujitsu humiliates sambo and that khabib comes back because i want i i want to come back he comes back to do it himself oh i like this he comes back to do it himself and uh and and just you know that's that's a cool
Starting point is 04:02:56 storyline that's some rocky shit it's like oh you're gonna beat my friend i'll unretire on your ass like i'd like to see that he's gonna going to be in his corner, by the way. He'll be at the fight. Khabib will corner him for that fight. I talked to Joe about Khabib coming back, Joe Lozon, and he's convinced Khabib can anytime. I'm like, no way. This guy's ballooned up to 205 pounds. He'll never weigh
Starting point is 04:03:18 155 again. Joe made it very clear he thought I was stupid. I don't know. I only think that he could easily do it because he seems like perhaps one of the most disciplined and like monk like of all the fighters. It's not the kind of monk that we like on this side of the world, frankly, but it is very monk like very Spartan. He could absolutely get down to his 155 because once he walk around at like 190 and then he diets to 170, then he to his 155. Because what's he walk around at? Like 190, and then he diets to 170,
Starting point is 04:03:48 then he cuts to 155. He's not far away from being able to make that jump. That's what he did his whole fucking career. Those are a lot of numbers. First of all, I think he's like 205 right now. So it's like, ah, you know. Drop 15 pounds, let's go. He'll just quick lose 35 pounds,
Starting point is 04:04:02 and then he'll lose 15 more pounds on top of that. It's like, wait a minute. Those are all big numbers. I want to lose 7. They're going to pay him $15 million for 25 minutes of his time. For $15 million I may or may not lose the 7. I bet you don't even miss it. You wouldn't miss Trail Mix at all if you knew 15 mil was at the end of
Starting point is 04:04:27 a 25-minute fight a year from now. You'd be like, let's fucking get ripped. I don't know. Because that's what it'd be. It'd be at least 15, but probably higher, probably closer to 20 million for him to come back and fight a big giant championship fight like that.
Starting point is 04:04:43 It'd be a big deal. Yeah. All right. Wendigoon, anything you want to hint before you go? Thank you all again so much for having me. I appreciate it. Always have a great time on the show. New videos coming out and me and the boys are currently working on the Stalker film and
Starting point is 04:05:02 filming should begin in December. So look forward to that if you're interested. And yeah, thanks guys for having me on i appreciate it thank you anytime you're an awesome dude pka 616

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