Painkiller Already - PKA 621 W/ Hutch: Woody’s New Tattoo, Getting Bullied By CoD Kids, #Dont Vote

Episode Date: November 12, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pka 621 with our guest hutch and maybe another one midway through not sure taylor this episode of pka brought to you by fume and lock and load a couple of wonderful sponsors hutch thank you for joining us you're welcome what's up guys how's this going it's been years right well no i think it's been about a year it was last year uh last i talked to you you were trying to gain some weight and you're talking about adding peanut butter to your diet. I remember that. Dude, the weight gain was going so good for a while. And then I got COVID.
Starting point is 00:00:30 And it fucked me up for like three months. And I lost 22 pounds. But I was up to 185. Oh, that's a huge upset. Are you back on the grind, eating a lot of peanut butter? I'm eating more now. And I'm going to start getting back into that because it took me like three months for my feeble body to recover.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Yeah. I mean, I saw like you were posting photos. This must have been a while ago before you lost the weight. Like you were doing a great job. Like you had put on a lot. Well, puffy is not the nicest way to say it, but like you looked more solid, harder to push over someone that you might move to the side with when you see them coming at you on a sidewalk instead of wobble like people were saying oh yeah we've wobbled like pop right back up yeah you got to get back on it you like it seemed at
Starting point is 00:01:14 the time you were really motivated and having a good hard to push over yeah are you still lifting i mean you guys probably know like once you get out of the routine of going to the gym it's like pretty hard to get back into it so uh yeah it's like it's not something i'm like actively thinking about too much especially because cod just launched and so i'm playing a lot of like i'm playing a lot of video games right now and streaming a lot so i'm kind of focused on that for the time being how are you liking the new cod i would give it like so the single player i was a little underwhelmed did you guys play any of you guys play the campaign? I'm halfway through the campaign, and I'll be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:01:48 I've already started skipping the cut scenes because I've lost interest in that story a bit. And I will say it's beautiful. The thing they hit, I don't want to steal your thunder. I want to hear what you think about the game, but it looks good. It's a great-looking game, but I was also underwhelmed. It's a bit of a mixed bag about the game but it looks good like it's a great looking game but I didn't I was also underwhelmed yeah it's a bit of a mixed bag with the game because there are some truly epic moments and like some really cool Cod is really known for these cinematic action set pieces that sort of
Starting point is 00:02:15 throw homage to a lot of probably favorite movies that we like for sure and it has like a it has a few of those moments so it's not like it was bad bad I would give it like a.5, you know? Yeah. But I just thought the villain was like super underwhelming. I didn't really care about him at all. And that's not what we're paying for either. You know, we're paying $70.
Starting point is 00:02:35 And when I paid that $70, it wasn't like counting on a good campaign. You got that eight hours of content. And also I'm hoping that the multiplayer, which would be 10,000 hours of content, of content is also good like that's what i'm like that's always my meat and potatoes yeah i think very few people probably buy cod for the campaign maybe like five ten percent i have no idea how to estimate that but yeah uh but as far as like the mp goes it's always going to be like a polarizing thing like i the only i don't know if i i'm ready to give it like a numerical score yet the only way that i gauge if i like a cod or not is whether or not i want to keep playing like vanguard came out i kind of wanted to stop after like a couple weeks uh yeah probably not
Starting point is 00:03:14 even that long i probably went to caldera and spent most of my time on warzone after that but with this game i wake up and i'm like yeah i want to keep playing like search and destroy plays pretty well i think the maps are a lot better search plays modern warfare 2019. there's some problems that i think like i think the footsteps aren't that bad in respawn they're certainly quieter than they were in the beta but when you're playing no respawn game types like prison rescue and search where the ambient noise going on in the background is a lot less it's just it's really hard to be sneaky at all and so and there's no dead silence as a perk so does it bother you that they left out like the whole barracks essentially like like i can't go in there and see how many say knife kills in a row i need to get to get a calling card or whatever like i can't go in there and see
Starting point is 00:04:01 what my kill death my win loss i can't tell like hey am I really good with M4? Or does it just feel like it? Because before I could go and be like, holy shit, it just feels like it. I'm not any good with the M4. I should use that scar. But I can't go and see any of that. Yeah. Well, to me personally, I don't care. But I understand why people want those features in the game,
Starting point is 00:04:20 especially given the fact that it was in the series just for such a long time. But the more recent CODs, it's really obvious that they are squarely focused on cultivating and maintaining a casual base yeah and that's kind of always been the case with cod like cod became extremely successful in cod 4. that's what really kind of propelled it into the stratosphere and this isn't an exaggeration completely changed the fps genre and spawned a lot of clones and you saw halo trying to do cod stuff and you saw i mean it just really influenced the whole genre uh more sort of concentrated on console because pc's been doing their own fps thing for a while yeah but when i when i think about the fact that they've been really targeting casuals,
Starting point is 00:05:08 from a really kind of top-down perspective, it just kind of makes sense. So it doesn't bother me. I'm like, yeah, I kind of get it, whatever. This Call of Duty is perfect for a guy who plays a couple hours a night, every night on his Xbox, and he plays maybe with his buddies, but probably just a long goofing around like that's the guy that's who this is catered to because the party system sucks we have such a hard time getting in a party staying in
Starting point is 00:05:32 a party and getting games the are you still having problems staying with the party because after that they patched it then the party doesn't break it's well I guess I'm complain it's a complaint like like whoever's hosting you have to go through this whole thing of teaching them how to invite people again because it's not intuitive they're they're scroll every every person's name everyone your friends list is a big banner that's like animated now not a not a not a word that that means taylor like murka durka or whatever you're you're yeah i'm cap'm caponed. That's all I want. I want a word that means you, and I want a whole list of them so I can get all the ones I want,
Starting point is 00:06:09 but check marks next to them. So I can invite all at once. That's cool. Save me some time, but don't show me that Taylor really loves and is proud of his Mountain Dew calling card. So much so that it's animated and it's fast Mountain Dew Mountain Dew. And I'm just like they have a tab that's called showcase and that for that showcase tab should be the first tab because the showcase tab is just a list of your friends that are playing cod it's still not like
Starting point is 00:06:36 a tight list it's still like these big bars like like it takes it down from the other one we all struggle with it yeah the ui i think they said that they were working on some changes for it, but I have, yeah, I think everybody's complaining about the UI at this point. I will say that it gets a little easier to navigate after like 10 days. I'm like, okay, I kind of get it now. Yeah, I got it now. Oh, I've got it now. After 10 days, the professional gamers got it.
Starting point is 00:07:05 The one UI that people can sort of just intuitively navigate right away. And that just wasn't. You get a kid with an iPhone in the desert, you know, he figures it out. He's calling his uncle Mustafa. Like Modern Warfare 2 in 2009. But it was the same thing. No frills to the point. Gunsmith stuff kind of changes that.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And the perk system kind of changes that the way that they did it kind of like a specialist package yeah so you kind of have to have it be a little bit more complex on the ui side of things because otherwise how are they gonna you need to set which perks are gonna but but like you can't change it on the fly you know like i can change my gun loadout on the fly i can change attachments on the fly but i can't change perks on the fly and so like i've found that the probably breaks the game i don't know maybe but like i found that like the perk system to me is like the most frustrating part of it because like i have to just like change my perks all the time and uh i don't mind the perks i don't mind the complex gun unlocking
Starting point is 00:07:59 system because once you understand it you understand it and it's actually better in my opinion because you'll grind away on an AK, and you're like, all right, I like that, okay. And then you'll just jump on the AK SMG, and you're like, oh, holy shit. I'm not starting with a naked one. I've got grips and lasers and attachments. These are AK-47 parts that happen to go on AK-47U.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And if you shoot an RPD, that RPD stock might be the meta stock for your AK-74U. So it makes you, not only does it make you play a bunch of guns, but it rewards you for them, for doing that, because you've got the attachments unlocked. And it fosters more diversity in the weapons that you run up against. You see a lot of stuff, yeah. Typically in COD, if you compare it with Modern Warfare 2019, for example,
Starting point is 00:08:44 the M4 emerges the meta immediately and it was like a starting weapon so i remember in those lobbies probably 20 30 percent of the lobbies were people running around with max rank ak's and some of the guns in that game were terrible like the ak was really bad so nobody ever used that and so there wasn't like a lot of weapon diversity there's still some but there wasn't really like a lot and i agree game because you have to in order to get the bison smg or whatever they call it in this game you have to fucking unlock four guns along that platform and then rank each gun up to 19 or 15 whatever the max is before you get to that and so uh and also i like what they did with the camos too like if you unlock a camo for one gun,
Starting point is 00:09:26 it's, it's available for all the other, for all the other guns. So I do like some of the changes that they've made quite a bit. I just think the UI is needlessly complex. I always see that diversity of, um, of classes amongst my opponents and teammates at the,
Starting point is 00:09:40 at the beginning of the night. Cause, cause maybe the skill-based matchmaking throws me against, you know, people who are just, yeah, we're ranking our weapons up. I'm getting camos. I'm having fun. But after we went about three, four, five, six in a row,
Starting point is 00:09:51 it's like, oh, these guys have gold guns. All of these guys have gold guns. And these guys are only using the AK-74U and the AUG. And they're all gold, and they all got gold rat shot pistols, and they're going hard in the paint. They're all in a full party got like gold rat shop pistols and they're going hard in the paint they're on a full party like a few guns that you can use though like i feel like the in terms of the options that you can have for like meta guns you have like the scar the aug ar the
Starting point is 00:10:17 aug smg is the worst smg in the game by far it's terrible you have the the the ak uh um whatever that uh the vaznev whatever that smg is that's what all the pros are using the 74u oh they are the the 74 this well no not for you that's an ar the 74u is another meta gun there's like every sniper you can basically use the spx there's like 12 different guns that you can roll with and just keep up just fine i think i'm gonna be done with it soon uh if i'm being honest i i don't have any reason to continue playing i think it's just a grind for camos it's a grind for camos mostly and i don't yeah i don't think i'll care uh i i originally only got the game because i wanted i heard that i would need to rank up shit for dmz but now that i've seen the like dmz release i don't want to play that no that looked cheeks
Starting point is 00:11:05 in my opinion all right so here's the here's the thing like tarkov the the reason it's so cool is there's an out of game out of raid economy this grip that i took off your bum ass is worth something to somebody else and i'm gonna go get it even even if it's spiteful and i'm not making a profit i'm gonna go sell your shit bitch go watch you can't do that in this game what happens is everything you go into that raid and you loot and you find you grind for they just convert that over to xp at the end of the match and you get oh great xp i could have gotten that anywhere i could have gotten that in spec ops single player i could have gotten that in the campaign by playing it over like you can get xp anywhere xp is dime a dozen i was more if there were if there were more meaningful things in the campaign by playing it over like you can get xp anywhere xp is a dime a dozen i was more if there were if there were more meaningful things in the battle pass then it
Starting point is 00:11:48 would sort of make sense and if they made and if they made the battle pass like way grindier because you typically i feel like you can get through the battle pass pretty quickly i mean i don't know if i always buy myself through the battle pass right away but i'm pretty sure you can get through it like kind of you can get through it like somewhat quickly but how do you buy your way through it do you literally get money they'll they'll just i mean it's a work expense for me the more money the more the first the work expense i love that it's not wrong but just write it off but but like i don't know if they were i don't know if activision was selling it as like a tarkov killer but certainly people were running with that kind of buzz on social media.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And when I watched it, I was like, this just looks like BR with bots. Multiplay with more steps. I just don't, I'm not, I'm not interested in playing AI. I just, it's not something that excites me. No, I watched Landmark just killing their dumbass AI stacked up in a staircase. And I was like like this is not something that people are gonna flock to like do you think landmark's like sweating right now do you think he's worried he's not gonna get all those bots and get their xp out of him no and he never would
Starting point is 00:12:54 like he's not gonna play this game like those guys play tarkov because their hands shake when they're done that's why i play it i i played cod i don't know i've been level 55 for days and days you get to max rank so goddamn fast, and there's no prestige yet. But I'm burnt out on it. I'm done. I don't know why I play anymore. I'm not any good. I'll be clear about that right away.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Somebody's going to say, oh, you don't like it because you're shit at it. My friends who are good at it are done with it, too. My friends who shit on people and probably have six KDs, they're pretty much done, too. The only reason I'm done right now is because ragnarok came out that game is incredible but yeah but i'm not done with the game no and i feel like i'm like i'm getting better at the game and i want to keep improving so that'll keep me hooked like and especially when they add the ranked playlist like me and my buddies mike and hector that's a different story yeah rank stuff for sure but i won't because I'm shit at the game.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I'm so bad at this one. I guess I hadn't played one in a while. I'm trying to think. The last COD I played on PC and actually... Because I've just been playing Tarkov. I've just been playing Tarkov and RPGs and stuff like Vermintide. And Jesus Christ, I'm bad at this COD. How much of your frustration with it is that complaint you've talked about where
Starting point is 00:14:05 after you and Bovity and Dirty and the good team, after you get eight wins, your connection gets shitty because they start searching for people who are good enough to play you. It's not just the connection. It's not just the ping. I don't like that. The fact that it does that is just a minor complaint. It's like, how dare they?
Starting point is 00:14:22 It's that playing with my friends means i have to play with people who are way better than me all the time and so i'm just always getting shit i get turned on it's embarrassing like you get like turn on drop shotted all the time no they're not drop shotting doesn't really work they took a lot of the movement stuff out all you can really do is sort of jump peak uh corners drop shot corners definitely works not on pc as much like on the console auto aim is such a thing that like playing those guys in general is just uh it's hard it's a lot harder to play when we when i see it's console kids i'm like oh oh oh no well the the aim assist is real beefy real beefy in this game and and um like
Starting point is 00:15:03 beefier than other games, I think. That's kind of been the trend for the last few years. They wanted to do the cross-play stuff. And I actually think that if you're going to do cross-play, you need to give controller... You can't do it... There was something that came out recently that did cross-play. I think Overwatch 2.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And they did it just the wrong way. Because console people playing with controller, they don't have any aim assist no you just can't do i don't care like maybe every once in a while like i think there was a creator back in the day that disabled aim assist in the treyarch games because they let you do it you guys probably can think of who i'm thinking of but i i can't remember because like that's so crazy of the of the population it's just it's just a frustrating experience to play yeah the controller and no if you've never what you know when you pick up like like i can't remember which game i played recently on uh the xbox series x that there was
Starting point is 00:15:56 no auto aim maybe it was and i'm on the sticks which i'm rusty with oh i played that um scorn scorn you've played scorn no it's like a disgusting uh puzzle game designed based on the art of um um geiger you know the guy who designed the alien for the alien movies it's got that sort of biomechanical pseudo-sexual art style so you're just kind of wandering through this disgusting other dimensional weird gross world where everything is like meaty and you're like plugging your arm into doors to open them and your gun like like goes on to your arm and has biomechanical parts super gross game but anyway that game doesn't have any fucking auto-aim and i couldn't hit shit in there either yeah no but i think you need to have like there needs to be a
Starting point is 00:16:40 balance but i would say for sure because a lot of maps are, there's only one map that's like kind of big, big. And then the rest of them, most of the engagements with the exception of side lanes are mid range, close mid range, close range. And in those circumstances, the controller player is going to have like a pretty significant advantage unless you're pretty good with your aim with a mouse and keyboard which is tricky up close if they're like jumping around and yep your tracking just has to be godly and like mine's getting better but it's not like shroud uh no on sea of thieves the the controller kids are they get bullied but over here it's the it's the other way around it's the other way around we definitely get bullied i definitely get bullied by the controller kids. I'm like, oh no, the PlayStation guys are here I'm doing okay this game. I honestly feel like I'm better at this game than I was at Modern Warfare 2019 Like I'm still kind of like motivated to get better with a mouse and keyboard
Starting point is 00:17:35 So that's like a fun challenge for me So that's just something that motivates me if I was still playing with a controller I don't know if I would be as interested in playing this game anymore I would probably just switch to warzone 2 when that comes out and just play that exclusively when did you switch to a mouse and keyboard permanently instead of controller for fortnite so that was in 2017 i think oh okay so you you're good on a mouse and keyboard now well it took me so long because i watched like I watched I used to love watching frag movies from like Mazzarini and those guys yeah like some of the old frag movies from CS 1.6 and just I was just always thought that that looked so
Starting point is 00:18:15 much cooler than watching console people play like pro cod but I was under the assumption that all of them used really high sensitivities because their aim was just so snappy. I didn't find out until later that the vast majority of them use really low sensitivity. They use their whole arm for movement and their wrist for micro adjustments. So I was playing with an unreasonably high sensitivity for two years, and it just was not working. Then I invested in a big mouse pad and i bought a 144 hertz monitor and i lowered my sensitivity drastically and then i started getting like much better i'm not like
Starting point is 00:18:51 great but my aim is like pretty okay these days oh i'm gonna attempt that then maybe i need to go to a much lower because because i would say i'm only using about this much of my mouse pad i don't have a mouse pad anyway i've got i've got a desk where the entire uh top is a mouse pad which i really i really like that um but but no i'm i'm pretty decent at tarkov so because it's all micro adjustments for the most part i'm not like rushing into squads or anything so i can hold an angle pretty hard to rush in that game the footsteps are so loud yes it is i love tarkov i i'm i'm looking forward to the new wife of that. But before that happens, I think all three of us here are psyched for Darktide, which is the Warhammer 40K game that's coming out. Yeah, that's going to be so much fun.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Like two weeks or something? Then the grind begins. Get all those legendary weapons. It'll take weeks and weeks. Oh, yeah. The grind begins. There are no more issues with character choice because everyone can pick the same
Starting point is 00:19:45 character if they want that's right like vermentide which it made you pick like the dog shit guy if all the other three guys were already picked which is no fun i did not like that i mean you liked it because you had the grand poobah choice you had had the elf woman. I have tenure, okay? I'm the guy in that subreddit, or not in the subreddit, in the Discord, every fucking day, fucking pressing the flesh, all right?
Starting point is 00:20:13 I know their names. I feel like we had this exact conversation the last time I was on, by the way. You definitely talked about... Kyle's right, though. Yeah, he is. We're all guests in his world. It's true.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I didn't even mind the character I got forced into. I just wanted to get a better pick in the next game. So I'm like, oh, I guess I'll be this cool-looking guy with a pig on his head and a flail, but I'm not happy about it. Oh, Kyle, you're muted. Can't hear you, bud. We lost you out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:20:44 This is better. We can win our argument. Are you guys not playing any COD? Are you done with that? No, I haven't bought it yet. Honestly, I was waiting for Darktide to come out because we've been waiting for that for a while, and I knew I would be playing that almost exclusively.
Starting point is 00:20:59 The only other game I play often, pretty much always, is Magic Arena. I was going to guess. Magic Arena is a great game. It's a great game for great people. It's a good community. Some of the people are awful because they'll
Starting point is 00:21:13 fuck you. You can't actually talk to your opponents in Magic, but the douchebags at Wizards of the Coast put borderline passive-aggressive emotes that you can send to people so you can be like, someone plays spam like the fun yeah nice nice nice and so like you like sometimes you play a card and because the ui isn't great like it'll be like discard seven cards because you just drew nine and you can't because like it just isn't working right and so you'll your turn
Starting point is 00:21:41 will time out and like you won't get your benefit and the other guy will just be like nice nice nice nice or there'll be like you fuck up a play or they know they're about to win and they just spam like good game at you a hundred times which i don't like so yeah it's a rude group of people on there you just touched on something for me from cod um one of the things i love and i didn't even know it still happened i i've seen memes about how like oh you kids will don't even know modern warfare 2 lobb i've seen memes about how like oh you kids will don't even know modern warfare 2 lobbies were real back in the day and they showed like an audio clip of some of the ferocious shit that went down in those lobbies well the people in this game are from the time it's worse blast from the past it's worse it is not better it's not any better
Starting point is 00:22:23 so you hear people you hear everybody so it's like racial slurs but now in high quality everybody's got it it's like six people doing that 4k hard r's the problem is we don't get enough interaction because we don't have lobbies that that stay together we we disband and we all go look for people the losers look for worse people and the winners look for better people and like we're in a goddamn bracket over here or something supposedly that is supposed to be happening less with this title i think is what the dev said but every game i've played it's disbanded 100 yeah yeah 100 yeah yeah because because i would know if anything else happened because when we're playing search between rounds i'll be honest we start the shit talking and when i say we i mean
Starting point is 00:23:04 my friends because i have no i can't say anything hilarious i can't say anything but sergeant always has the most toxic shit talking because you can talk shit to each other in between rounds up so what do you guys say kyle um dirty like the first thing like as soon as they can hear us dirty you'll like find some guy's name that he takes issue with and he'll be like sergeant slaughter more like sergeant sergeant faggot we're coming for you bitch and it's like whoa that was so out of left field it's one to one we just met nobody has died nobody has pulled a gun out yet there's no reason to be upset already called him the f word like out of nowhere and and they're and they are not surprised at all. Already called them the F word like out of nowhere. And they are not surprised at all on the other team.
Starting point is 00:23:48 They're coming back. They got it. Oh, you got F bombs? We got N bombs. And they call us all like And then you have a bigots arm race. You just have to get more extreme. Mutually assured degeneracy. So the next round, we all
Starting point is 00:24:04 win and they're quiet so we all just start spitting on them we go and we spit on them all through the like intermission where they can hear us and then they beat us the next round they tell them to open their mouths open your mouth open your mouth and i'm like it's open it's open it's been open i've only got two kills so we should probably talk about skill-based matchmaking at some point. We didn't get to talk about it last time, and I wanted to. Because Blame Truth came on the podcast. It was talking shit, and I wanted a chance to respond to it,
Starting point is 00:24:37 and we just never got to it. So the big thing about skill-based, and I don't even play COD, so I'm a truly neutral observer. I was totally indifferent to it and then until kyle told me like oh and sometimes like in order to get a group of people good enough your connection gets shitty and like if that is the case like connection should always be prioritized over everything i feel like no one's even whether you're a noob or not nobody's having fun with shitty ping like missing people because of that you know so if it's like a prioritizing of connection
Starting point is 00:25:08 i can see that as a that's not i want to get my criticism in before hutch chimes in as an expert um i haven't played this cop but i have played it with like more recently with stronger skill based matchmaking my issue is the people that are good people much better than me i no longer want them as friends and that's the dynamic that ruins it if i have an ace in the hole he used to be a pleasure to play with he's like i don't know he helps you win every game it's casual it's not so stressful when you have an ace in the hole it's a blast to play cod or you get two of them now if there's an ace in the hole that means that
Starting point is 00:25:46 i'm gonna have a hard game i'm not playing well because everybody's as good as my good friend suddenly my good friend is persona non grata and he doesn't like it and i don't like it um and i've been it's always been like that for me because all my friends are aces in the hole because i'll only be friends with you if you're better at games than me i'm so goddamn good so all my friends like i've got like three or four like legitimately good friends um who at one time a couple have played like professionally a little bit like they're very good players at all games they're good at clicking on shit and uh they made a meme in the um in there they were like when dirty gets on and kyle says says you have to leave the
Starting point is 00:26:25 party now because i kick them out i tell them i'm like all right you're here until somebody better gets on we're running a baseball team here you bat 250 i got a 350 hitter he's just asleep right now he's coming heavy wings of redemption vibes sure sure i mean we're here to win we're not we're not having fun all right you should actively not be having fun you know what you're not you're not ranked material homie that's all i got to say to that i don't want to step out of line but i hope your parents die in a fire no a car accident no like it's just coincidental that not only are my closer friends that I've known for six years the better players, but the alternative is often somebody I've known for 30 minutes. So they're getting bounced out of the party for my buddy.
Starting point is 00:27:20 But I'd probably do that to Taylor, too. Taylor's playing with me. He's got to go as well. I've got to win. You've got to do it. You've got to do it. I'm not good. At this point, I've heard every conceivable argument against skill-based matchmaking,
Starting point is 00:27:35 and they're all stupid, in my opinion. Oh, you didn't like mine? I'm pretty convinced mine's a good one. I don't know if you're making an argument against skill based matchmaking or saying this is your preference because I think those are two different things like if somebody says I want to be able to pub stomp or I want to be able to play with my friends and it not be an issue playing with my friends who are better and have it not be an issue or if somebody says you know my ping suffers a little bit I'm gonna I'm gonna say all those things are valid but it's when people and
Starting point is 00:28:05 particularly content creators leverage their their social media influence to like try to get some movement going with the expectation that any of these aaa studios are going to take it out of their games that's when i'm like okay this is delusional because this these decisions that are made in terms of matchmaking parameters and it's gonna be different for each game because like they they optimize differently maybe they're targeting different demographics or you know hardcore versus casual that's gonna be different and if it's PvE versus PvP versus PvP you know like these things are obviously PvP doesn't factor in but
Starting point is 00:28:43 these decisions that are made on the back end by these studios are obviously pvp doesn't factor in but um these decisions that are made on the back end by these studios are entirely data driven they are money balling the fuck out of your experience with call of duty and one of the things that they do one of the things that is really integral to optimizing your play time and player retention and their churn rate is matchmaking parameters and all of these studios are going to tell you the same thing because they're saying that they're all seeing the same data the fog like developers have only recently started coming out and sort of somewhat talking about their reasoning behind skill-based matchmaking because it trends on twitter every other week and so there's like all this pressure
Starting point is 00:29:30 and these devs these poor devs are getting harassed like legitimately harassed like death threats and like that people are just taking it like so insanely far and so now you have studio like respawn coming out and making a statement like listen you know we love community feedback but we stand behind our devs. Then you had Fall Guys in their Discord channel in June, straight up said, look, we understand why experienced Fall Guys players are having a bit of a tough time during this transition, because they're not winning as much, the matches are more difficult. We can sympathize with that. but what we observed when we didn't have skill-based matchmaking was that people who played the game and just got stomped in the first round over and
Starting point is 00:30:12 over and over again quit the game uninstalled the game and never played it again and from the perspective of a developer this is obviously an unacceptable outcome especially if they can influence that in some way and uh destiny came out with a blog a couple months ago bungie did where they talked about how skill-based matchmaking or lack thereof was impacting their game and like i i have some questions about like some of their decision making because they just keep going back and forth it seems in terms of like how they implemented if they implement it so if you even if you don't like the consequences of skill-based matchmaking for you personally and as far as like the ping
Starting point is 00:30:52 goes listen i'm a little bit i'm a fucking coastal elite fucking piece of shit i live in los angeles or close to it i never have games that are above like a 35 ping ever. Like ever, ever, ever. Honestly, it's rare for like I'll have it, but some of the players will have like 200 pings sometimes because they had to find Emilio Estevez of South America to like come and pwn me. Like, oh yeah, he can stand against Vovity and we've also got an Eskimo from up north
Starting point is 00:31:21 who can take on dirty. We've got a burn victim from Georgia who'll play Kyle at low ping, though. He doesn't mind at all. If you're playing COD with people, a mishmash of people all over the country, that's obviously going to present some difficulties when you're doing
Starting point is 00:31:37 matchmaking. Can you use a VPN to spoof your shit and lock your region? In fact, a lot of content creators will lock their region to Egypt. And they get these.5 average KD lobbies. Is Egypt a good one? Because I've been using Singapore, and it doesn't help a lot. You've been using Japan like an idiot?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah. No, I got a thing called bot lobbies because Vavity was talking about it for, I think it's more, more used for war zone. I don't even know if it helps with this, but one thing I have been able to do is lock our region to like the Southeast. Like I'm not running anything through Singapore actually, or Thailand, cause it just won't work. I'm, I'm just, but I am locking us for this region now. So we don't have to deal with that ping anymore. But the fact that I have to pay $5 a month for a VPN to do that, that it's a little annoying yeah that's what a lot of content creators there's also another way you can exploit it where you can and this is just the nerdiest like i play fucking
Starting point is 00:32:33 video games for a living and and this is the nerdiest shit i've ever fucking heard of in my entire life you make a bot or an unused call of duty account on Smurf account. On a different PlayStation. So let's say you got a PlayStation 4, because there's like cross-platform or whatever. And then you add your main account to that one, and then you join a lobby, and then you join off of your bot account. The steps that some people are willing to take
Starting point is 00:33:00 just so they can beat up on players that are worse than them is just mind-blowing to me. You and I both know if anybody's doing that to pub stomp, you're a fucking loser. But if you're doing that to make a pub stomping video that's now going to make $750 and you're going to make another one tomorrow and the next
Starting point is 00:33:17 day and the next day, then shh. I can understand the financial benefit of doing something like that I just still think it's just fucking nerdy and then like you can't extrapolate your experience or the pressure that you feel to turn out gameplay videos you can't turn around and tell developers like you should specifically cater your fucking game I agree tens of millions of copies specifically for people like me just to make my job easier as a content creator i agree absurd that's just
Starting point is 00:33:51 absurd so like all these content creators that have launched this campaign against skill-based matchmaking it's just so but but i don't think that's their only point i think that they're also saying hey the reason i became a content creator is because i fell in love with call of duty and the reason i fell in love with call of duty is because I used to go in there and I didn't know who I was going to face off against. I didn't know if it was going to be the best of the best or the worst of the worst. But I was bringing my A game. And every now and then, man, did I shine. And now they're like, every time I step up to the plate, it's the best of the best.
Starting point is 00:34:20 They had to develop a billion dollar algorithm to find players uh this quickly to take me on and that's what they did that algorithm that algorithm fucking works it pays dividends when you look at the top 10 most played playstation games for example on any given month it's like the only three games that don't have skill-based matchmaking are games that it's not even really fucking necessary like rust or uh gta5 like who gives a fuck if there's skill-based matchmaking are games where it's not even really fucking necessary, like Rust or GTA 5, like who gives a fuck if there's skill-based matchmaking in that game, or Minecraft, and then every other fucking game, Dead by Daylight, FIFA, Apex, COD, Destiny, well, I don't know, they're kind of back and forth on that. But literally, the bulk of all multiplayer games now, because all studios are doing it they all saw the same thing they didn't have this
Starting point is 00:35:09 the type of data collection abilities that they had 15 years ago and if they had those abilities that they have now back then it would have been in the game i promise you that so i don't know my personal one of my personal life philosophies is nostalgia is a fucking burden like i i just don't i don't like spending a lot of time thinking about i like to look forward and kind of live in the present and that's fair that's fair but i i still think you gotta like judge what's in front of us with a you know like what's going on here every now and then with a skill-based matchmaking everything he said's pretty much i agree with like as far as like a company's standpoint and making the most money like that all makes sense having the biggest user base the most active
Starting point is 00:35:49 user base they make the most money because they're making the most amount of people happy this is the thing that I think a lot of content creators don't understand they think that the the majority opinion is that skill based matchmaking sucks when the reality is 95% of the people that play fucking Call of Duty have no idea what that word means. They're like, what the fuck are you talking about? If you walked up to just random people on the street and said, hey, when you play video games, would you prefer a fair competition of somebody who is roughly of the same skill
Starting point is 00:36:15 or would you prefer complete blowouts? 95% of people are going to be like, yeah, I think I prefer fair. If you go to a pickup basketball game and one team just squashes the other team, what happens in nine out of ten instances they swap players around and then they make the teams more balanced and then they fucking play again like very few people except for would-be pub stompers aspiring pub stompers prefer blowout and blowout matches that's just not how human beings fundamentally operate and i will say and the content creator's perspective, the viewer wants to see blowouts too.
Starting point is 00:36:47 They are getting feedback from their viewers that say, 30 and 14 or whatever, like, what the fuck? I want to see an X-Cal style 61 and 2 double noob. Just to be clear though, it doesn't exactly work because when we play,
Starting point is 00:37:04 we still stomp the shit out of them it's just that i'm getting left behind same like confused about i'm like it doesn't feel very strict to me like there's still some matches where i'm one fucking shit last night someone on our team talked shit dirty last night because dirty had been using pistols and dirty was like he didn't do well united front someone on our team Dirty a hard time. Like, oh, I did better than you last game. Dirty's like, well, fuck you. He killed like 70 or 80 people the next game.
Starting point is 00:37:32 He apologized to the other team, and they said it was okay. Like a genuine apology. It was silly. They were smart-trapped the whole game. He had four chopper gunners. Like, it's a shit show. Jesus Christ. Like, they still shit on people. like like it's me that gets left
Starting point is 00:37:47 behind that's what i'm complaining about so it's it's more for the the mediocre player he's the one stuck in the middle and i i get i'm not gonna tell you like you're wrong because you say you have a bad time because your games are gonna be like much harder if you have someone who has like an invisible mmr rating of 100 and they're playing with someone who has like an invisible mmr rating of 100 and they're playing with someone who's got an invisible mmr rating of 25 the game's algorithm is going to try to match you up with an average lobby that's somewhere in the middle so the better player is going to have like a much easier time and the worst player is going to have a tough time and i'm not going to tell you like hey you should have fun you know that's like obviously like if you
Starting point is 00:38:25 have a preference where it would be looser it's like i understand having that preference but if they loosened matchmaking parameters now all of a sudden there are a lot of people that solo queue call of duty and there are a lot of bad players that solo queue call of duty i think the median kd for call of duty is like 0.8. That's where the bell curve is. And these people are all going to have a really shitty time if they have to play against people like me or even people like you. You say you struggle, but you would shit on a newcomer to the series.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And so if your argument is that, I want them to loosen matchmaking so my friend who's worse than me can have a better time, but also, fuck these people over here, they're going to have a much worse time. It's like you're applying one standard to your friend, or you're wanting the developer to apply one standard to your friend, and then apply a completely different standard. I want them to get out of the way of progress. So there's much larger pool of players. It just doesn't make any fucking sense.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I just see a lot of red tape. I'm a businessman doing business, and I see a lot of red tape between me and those nukes. That's all I'm saying That's all I and they could go play it and the argument that I would love to make is like Have those casuals go play their own those if you want to like play ranked play ranked and if you want to Let that beats the whole purpose though because the skill based matchmaking is it exists Specifically to keep casual players playing the game longer that's why it exists and so i got rid of it in a casual playlist you're defeating the entire purpose of that's why almost every game that has casual and ranked skill-based matchmaking
Starting point is 00:39:58 is still present and casual like for obvious reasons well like if they if they made it separate wouldn't everybody like all the good players would just be playing each other in the non-skill based one yeah if you and that's the other idiotic idea that i hear okay we'll just create a playlist without skill-based matchmaking i'm like who the fuck is gonna play that the good people it's all yeah it's all gonna be like 1.5 to 2.5 players just hoping for your easier lobbies and it's gonna be 10 times sweatier it's gonna be like a dating app with all men yeah we're all the hot babes that i was promised there are just like so many like blatant contradictions in people's logic when they criticize uh skill-based matchmaking that it just blows my mind i'm like do the connection thing still resonates with me and that like
Starting point is 00:40:41 it feels like for a video game like whatever like if skill bait like if the connection's the the same fine like do the skill thing if that's what they want to do but like you shouldn't ever get in the game with shitty connection because of this like you it should have something built in where it's like people are gonna have more fun losing by a bit more if they're not like i hit that guy oh my gun shot two seconds late like because that when i remember the worst times i hadn't called duty it was that oh yeah it was connection shit it was one bursting a guy that you were positive you hit and then you're glitching all over the top of the map like in my experience that happens way less with the recent titles way less and i have not played cod in a long time do
Starting point is 00:41:23 you guys remember world at war do you remember how fucking laggy that shit was do you remember like even cod 4 like how fucking crazy laggy that shit you remember everybody when when world at war came out and like the youtube scene and everything everybody quit it except for wings after about a week and went out of there yeah everyone's like this sucks there's tanks that you can't quick scope i forgot about the tanks. How did I forget that that game had tanks? That was one of the worst things.
Starting point is 00:41:47 It really depends on where you live. I read a statistic that like 85% of the United States lives kind of somewhat close to a major metropolitan area. And if you're a part of that 15% of the country that lives in more remote areas, I sympathize and I feel bad, but it's like they're not going to put like a fucking cod server in a in a popular in an you know in a 500 square mile
Starting point is 00:42:11 radius where there's like i agree with everything you said like what they're doing is making the most money it's sir it's it's serving the most people the best experience possible um it's just what i should have done is the is kept my word the first time i refunded the game but they tricked me when but everybody was like no you're gonna want those attachments for and he lost the pre-order stuff i think people treat the matchmaking matchmaking system like it's like some mature manchurian candidate shit like it's a predatory matchmaking system They're manipulating you with your algorithm to play like it's like what the fuck are you talking?
Starting point is 00:42:49 They read this patent or this like there's like companies come out with a billion patents every year that they don't they don't use And so they looked at this one patent by I think like EA and it had to do with like instead of SBMM There was a proposal to do EOMM, Engagement Optimized Matchmaking, which is something else entirely, but if the game is responding to your stats in real time, so it used to be that it would go from your lifetime stats. You have a KD, and once you get enough kills, it's kinda hard to change that KD.
Starting point is 00:43:18 There's like a big, and so you're kinda always in that range or whatever, but that's not how human beings work. Some days you have bad days. Maybe you got a fucking headache that day, but that's not how human beings work some days. You have bad days Maybe you got a fucking headache that day you're tired like you and you just play like shit And so what these games now do for the most part is they react to your stats in real time and these people Think they think that this is an engagement optimized Matchmaking and that the game is sending you into all these like matches that are predetermined to be the outcome and so they're like
Starting point is 00:43:46 You have one good game, and then it throws you into three shitty games It's like well, how does that work mathematically because if they're doing that with everybody are you telling me one put like? I know the solution. I think I know the solution. I would like to know more about how they're Specifically the skill based matchmaking algorithm works. I wanna know what it weighs and measures. Like is it score per minute slash KD? I wanna tell you. I need to know the ratio.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I need that formula, that's important. That shit is protected information and if it ever got out, somebody would get sued into oblivion. Because if they ever got into specifics about what they, I mean they'll give you like vague stuff like the Fall Guys example that I gave you. He said like, this is what happened when we did this i mean they'll they'll give you like vague stuff like the fall guys example that i gave you he said like this is what happened with this and this but they're never going to tell you like we're measuring this and this but they are measuring
Starting point is 00:44:31 every conceivable variable you can imagine they're imagining but i want to know how they're there can only be a handful that they're actually using and they're going to be like weighed i want to know what they're weighed more or less it's going to be score per minute per player and it's going to be kd per player and maybe like what their kd in the previous match was so i bet we could experiment and figure it out i think they're measuring how much long you how much time you spend in the menu they're many they're measuring how long it takes on average to get a kill they're doing that for each map they're met they're measuring uh how long you use a certain gun, they're measuring what your KD is with this gun versus that gun, how that impacts your... And the other thing, too,
Starting point is 00:45:12 is that they'll never tell you, is that they constantly run A-B tests all the time without telling players. I've had developers from all kinds of studios reach out and talk to me about the specifics, but they'll never like tell you but like they will they will they will loosen matchmaking parameters without telling anyone and then they look at their churn rate they look at their quit rate and they're like well it went up 15% when we loosened it that much and I'll say we're our 20% and we did it that much I'll take where I have like in our revenue commensurately decreased or increased as a result of that I have about an 85% quit rate on that map that's nothing but cars that explode.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Oh, I hate it. They have a map where there's nothing but cars that blow up? First of all, I'm really good at it. Have you seen this map, Taylor? No, I have not. Not many people use frag grenades like old school frags because there's so much cool shit, but you can fling a frag grenade. So I run those bitches in resuppupply and i'm just chunking them
Starting point is 00:46:06 because the whole map go ahead there's a incline on both sides so it's not like a steep incline but there's the central portion of the it's a it's a freeway just a two-lane freeway i don't maybe three lanes i don't know what it is and it and it kind of makes a point like this and so if you're in the center you have this kind of top advantage you can look down a little bit but the whole fucking map is covered in cars and those fucking cars will blow up if you throw an eight at it and if one blows up all of a sudden four blow up and it's just a nuclear weapon that that's that is that does not do justice to how shitty this fucking map is. That's the part with not that many cars. That's the part without that many cars.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Can all of these blow up? None of these are cover? All right, so the big thing doesn't blow up. Yeah, the trucks, the big things. The camper doesn't blow up, and the fire truck doesn't blow up. Everything else explodes. And you have a tiny lane right there off the right, and that's maybe like a six-foot long kind of walkway,
Starting point is 00:47:08 if you can imagine, like a civilian walkway. And then there's like a one-lane thing to the right of that. So technically it's a three-lane map, but it's just... This is where like 60% of the fighting happens, and it's awful. It is a bottom five. Surge and Destroy on this is... Actually, search isn't that bad,
Starting point is 00:47:28 but everything else is garbage. Search maybe is different, but can you just pre-explode your own cars? Is that a viable strategy? It would take so long. You don't have a lot of explosives. Now we've wasted all of our explosives. Yeah, the spawns might flip too.
Starting point is 00:47:41 But that's the thing. It would take a lot of grenades because there's just nothing but cars. You saw it was like 20% of the map. It would take a lot of grenades because there's just nothing but cars. You saw it was like 20% of the map. It's like a long stretch of just... And they're going to blow up one way or another. Don't worry. They fucking funded it on that map. That was like, alright, crunch time.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Can you still vote down maps? No, there's no voting for maps. You are assigned a map and you are assigned an opponent. Dude, this is... Okay, there have to be more cars photoshopped into this, right? No, no, no. You see?
Starting point is 00:48:09 All right, so if you look at the very end... This is like a prank map. If you look at the very end where there's a bridge, that's where you spawn. Those cars back there, if you get a nade in, like four of them explode. Like in a chain, they're that close to the pack. So that's where I'm throwing my frags. I'm trying to get them back into there it is terrible and i bet every once in a while though you get a real big nade that like makes this a fun map right like quads and
Starting point is 00:48:32 oh yippee three kills let's go cash those in with the what do i do with the three kills taylor i don't care anymore i don't know i'm a glass half full kind of guy. I will say, though, that the rest of the core maps are actually pretty decent. In terms of initial maps, I think this is one of the stronger ones. I didn't really love Cold War. I thought it was kind of a boring MP experience. Vanguard was like... I thought Vanguard
Starting point is 00:48:57 was pretty decent, but I think people just don't want to play World War II shooters. They have a map in this game that has a lot of water. You're able to... It basically has an under the map. There's like a watery to play world war ii shooters they have a map in this game that has a lot of water um yeah you're able to it basically has an under under the map there's like a watery network that you can swim in a little bit and there's multiple entry and exit points little pools they're like yeah these little pods that you can pop out of like a tadpole and you can use your pistol underwater so you like pulls his gat out yeah or you can't that is awesome though i love being a
Starting point is 00:49:26 little fucking rat on that on that map just going from hole to hole and just fucking with people you have the rat shot pistols uh i'm working on getting a kimbo for the for the glocks but it's taking quite a while it's like it takes quite a bit like the the rat shots are better the basilisk is way better than the than the glove the snake shots with the shotgun shells or whatever and i think you can run it akimbo yeah yeah it's akimbo snake shot revolvers and so you can just remember the old akimbos from modern warfare 2 the the 1887s you've got those but they're in five shot 500 smith and wesson magnums mine are gold with like long barrels and he's just running around like this.
Starting point is 00:50:08 One of the most fun memories I have of COD is when they hadn't quite patched those 1887s yet and so everyone was just running around long shotting each other spinning. They got to it pretty quick so there was like a golden week there. It wasn't that quick.
Starting point is 00:50:24 They fixed it improperly. If I recall, they fixed the gun, and then there was an attachment. Maybe it was a Kimbo. I forget what it was, where it was still broken. It stayed broken for a while. That's triggering my memory. Yeah. Originally, it was you could just use one or two, and it would go super far.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And then they patched one, and everyone's like, just use two. It's the same again. And then that's what it was you could just use one or two and it would go super far and then they patched one and everyone's like just use two it's the same again and then like that and then that's the ground modern warfare 2 was terrible because remember the javelin glitch so long yeah i don't remember the there's the javelin glitch oh you had to like look down at something and like but anyway you triggered the javelin and now you can sprint at full speed but you're a walking javelin bomb yeah but but and the javelin impact and call of duty is the biggest explosion in the game it's far exceeds any of the like hand thrown stuff it's much more like a predator missile than anything so you're a walking predator when you got shot the the missile would hit the ground right away instant like if you got killed it would just and then so it was like martyrdom times five i never
Starting point is 00:51:24 did that one i should i did it so much oh their model warfare 2 was terrible the care package glitch ruined the game i didn't like rust lobbies some people like that as a bug but to me it was another thing you could get pulled into glitch lobbies against your will like that was the thing that happened and you'd like rank up super fast and you would get hacks like it would like give your character like an extra perk slot instead of a lethal yeah i was in a in a game where people had fully auto grenade launchers so you just you know it's just shooting an endless amount of nades out of it that game was really broken if i recall correctly the studio got like decimated shortly
Starting point is 00:52:01 after it came out and they couldn't repair it. Yeah, yeah. There was a lawsuit going on because some of the talent there, some of the developers, they sued Activision because they alleged in court that, and I think they settled out of court, but they alleged that they were owed multiple millions and millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:52:22 in bonuses that they never got. I can remember Hutch making a video about this on High Rise. Yeah. Isn't it funny how you remember the map? From like 14 years ago. The post-launch support for that game had the potential
Starting point is 00:52:40 to be like an all-time top five FPS, and it ended up being literally one of the worst fps of all time because i'm glad you agree with me on that it was one of the worst ever if a cod has a one-year life cycle and that game was horribly broken for seven or nine months it can't be good i was out of there after like four or five months i went back to cod 4 i'm like i'm not going to world of war i'll just you know enough people were playing people forget people forget modern warfare 2 was the game that people
Starting point is 00:53:05 made, content creators made videos of themselves destroying it. It was a funny little thing that, it was a little trend that went on for a week of everybody destroying their copy of Modern Warfare. Whiteboy melted his on the snow, I think. I shot, FPS Russia shot his copy
Starting point is 00:53:22 and then when it was time for him to make the fucking commercial for Call of Duty, they were like, did you make a Call of Duty hate video? And I was like, yeah. That game was, it was just, it was so frustrating because it was like, it's right there. The greatness is right there. All you gotta do
Starting point is 00:53:40 is literally like, get rid of explosives being replenished in one man army and the care package glitch and commando pro is like out of control like i like the philosophy of just making everything kind of overpowered which is i think what they did with modern warfare 2 this year is like there's so many strong things i wasn't even gonna talk about weapon balance because here's my thoughts on that it you talked about what's your idea of a fun game what's your idea of weapon balance like what do you imagine i don't mean you specifically i mean like like the listener like when you think
Starting point is 00:54:09 of like what it's like in the world of call of duty to exist like what do you think of that because when i think of cod for what i think of okay we've got ars that are good at like medium long and kind of suck short and you know that that balance sort of thing that's out the window you know that's what i want 16 and the mp5 and that was it yeah balance sort of thing that's out the window you know that's what i want 16 and then five and that was it yeah well i'm saying that's what i want ideally and those are the outlier like like there's like three guns in that game to stand out better than everything else that needed to be fixed maybe a little jug ak action but in this game the original game and the original you had like the omp you had like the shotguns you had the acr you had the even the
Starting point is 00:54:45 scar the m4 like i i prefer black ops black ops 3 did a similar kind of approach to it where it was like it let's just make everything super strong and um i i kind of prefer that because i think it gets a little mundane if you try to if you try to make everything like perfectly balanced or yeah there are there are definitely some shitty guns in this game but there are a lot of really really good guns in this game and the time to kill is so i would love to know what the average time to kill is because there's so many snipers they've got three classes they have three different classes of guns that kill with one shot to the head or neck or something like that got like a marks marksman rifles, the sniper rifles, and the battle rifles. They're nasty. The snipers are fucking nasty
Starting point is 00:55:28 in this game. They're gross. With the canted laser, the thing where you don't even aim down sights, you just sort of do this to the gun. This is your aim down sights. It's like what they did with the realism mode in Modern Warfare 2019. It was like their version of hardcore, where when you ADS'd, it would show you a laser instead.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I don't like that attachment i can't really i've seen some people tear up tear it up with it but i'm not very good with that attachment i need like a red dot or i use it on i use it on an ar and i like it i like just dragging the recoil out of it and it's fun to use i'm pretty good with that but i've seen people to use it with a sniper and you're just clicking on people now there's no scope there's no sight of any kind you're just able to like that's like the car 98 on scope from cod to like that yeah the sniping this game feels really similar to cod 2 which is awesome for me but it's kind of annoying cuz like there there are a lot
Starting point is 00:56:17 of people running around snipers in this game so I do think they need to be like maybe like a little bit nerf like the ADS speed is pretty intense it's like fast with a weapon tuning it's faster than the smgs even without the weapon tuning it's it's like instant ads and that's the other thing too is they they slowed this game down quite a bit so like the movement is obviously slower they got rid of bunny hopping and slide canceling uh which i support like i don't i don't i didn't lot i mean bunny hopping i think was less annoying but the slide canceling stuff was just your your hands would hurt just doing that constantly it's too much and but that but what they do what but what they really slowed down in this game was
Starting point is 00:56:54 the ads speed like the ads speed in this game is like real bad and they also added a ton of idle sway so like the aiming stability stat on these attachments becomes super important because that idle sway that really exaggerated idle sway is like extra recoil because it continues as you're shooting so you have to compensate for this bobbing gun like this and so and and it's it's so it's so nonsensical because the attachments a lot of the attachments that help you with recoil in this game add to your idle sway so it's like they made some i think questionable decisions when it came to they're going to fix the attachments they're broken like it's almost always better all right a naked gun is a is really
Starting point is 00:57:35 strong and it's often going to be stronger than the nonsense that someone who didn't actually pay attention to what they're doing and build a good gun would build if you just put a bunch of good attachments on a gun my naked guns way better yeah you could all of a sudden your sprint out speed and your ADS speed is super slow and you're just getting you're right to fire and ADS are what it's all about fire in this game is actually I was surprised to learn faster than in modern warfare 2019 it's the ADS speed and the aiming stability that's just and then the sprint and the sprint to fire speed, which are super slow.
Starting point is 00:58:08 But anyways, I wanted to say one more thing, and then I can lay this to rest. But when Blame Truth came on here, he referenced a video that I did with Sandy Ravage and a conversation I was having with him about skill-based matchmaking. And in that video with Sandy Ravage, which was very clearly a video between two people
Starting point is 00:58:26 that like like each other we do not i have never had a problem with sandy to my knowledge he's never had a problem with me and i made a joke in that video about how him supporting getting rid of skill-based matchmaking made him more like donald trump and me supporting skill-based matchmaking made me more like bernie sanders which was a part of an ongoing gag that I had with Sandy. Like we would constantly make these stupid political jokes and that joke didn't even make any fucking sense. It was just something I said off the cuff. That makes sense to me.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Your friend, Anthony, blame truth, whatever his last name is, fucking took me literally, which you got to be the dumbest motherfucker in the world to watch that video and think, oh yeah, he's serious. So I just wanted to be the dumbest motherfucker in the world to watch that video and think oh yeah he's serious so I just wanted to clear the air or perhaps he's troubled when you get a reaction that's what I thought I think whatever you attribute 3D chess trolling logic
Starting point is 00:59:17 usually people don't deserve it I think he took me seriously I think when you're a hammer everything looks like a nail there's only one way to find out we got to get him on by the way blame think when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. There's only one way to find out. We got to get him on. By the way, blame truth. Whatever you're doing to the algorithm, I think it's working pretty well.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I keep getting recommended your videos. And frankly, I've never sought them out before. But every day, every day. Another video of you complaining about Call of Duty every day. Rage bait. Cod rage bait crushes on YouTube. Yeah, it really does. Just crushes.
Starting point is 00:59:46 And I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it. it he he in his videos he very much hates the game that's not me dogging on him or anything like i think he makes a video every day about how much he hates the game i sincerely believe he hates call of duty and i do too like he talks about it he's either winning an oscar or he genuinely hates it i hate it too he's preaching to the choir that's why you're there watching the video i have struggled with clinical depression for a good portion of my adult life and that shit looks so depressing to me like i cannot imagine playing a game that i fucking hate over and over and over and over again. Let me tell you what happened today. In 2022, there's so many good fucking games. I just don't have a lot of sympathy for that anymore
Starting point is 01:00:31 because there's just so many games that you can play now. I had this thought process today. Today, I took my dogs out for a walk, and then I came back in, and I saw that three of my good friends were playing Call of Duty at 3 in the afternoon, and I was like, huh, do I want to get out and play with them Duty at three in the afternoon. And I was like, huh, I want to get on and play with them. I'd like to talk.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And I was like, no, you don't. I don't want to play this game. I have no, nothing. No outcome will be fun to me. And I was like, I'm not going to play it. I don't want to play. I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I'm not going to play anymore. Yeah. Yes, you are. I asked Kyle to play Magic with me with me you might play after the show did you ever get the highest rank in magic the one where you got to be like top 500 oh mythic no no i i i've been like i haven't done ranked for like over a year or so i've been like when i go on i'll be like i'm gonna make like a meme deck like i'm i tried to like i worked for like weeks on this stupid like mono black just
Starting point is 01:01:25 enchantment deck and i'd like lose all the time with it and i'd be like this would really benefit from an instant right here but i'm like no i want to like win with just this bullshit like strategy i have a lot of fun with that you need to you need to have a fast deck because there's so many weenie decks like mono white mono black there's so many decks where it's like by turn four they're doing fucking nine damage to already and you have like a single three four you know defender or whatever i mean like yeah they they fixed or they made that worse getting rid of meat hook massacre which like they acted like it was some huge thing to get rid of and it was like no like that's needed to get rid of like white like tokens and shit right now but i can feel kyle actively dying as i talk about magic but i mean i
Starting point is 01:02:03 say about the magic thing like you're saying there's no reason to play games that you don't want to play. I ask Kyle all the time. One of my closest friends, Kyle, do you want to play magic with me? And he says, go fuck yourself, Taylor. He says there's no world. It is so fun.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Magic is so fun. And it's crazy addicting. You can lose a lot of time playing that. And it's on your phone now and your tablet too. No, it's not the time. I have plenty of that. It's the money. You of time playing that. And it's on your phone now and your tablet, too. No, it's not the time. I have plenty of that. It's the money. You have plenty of that.
Starting point is 01:02:30 They got like 500 bucks out of me because I wanted to build a... What was that one? Fuck, man. What's the card where it's like it's got to take... It's like two red, two green, and two blue, and then all of a sudden you have just like a god card. I can't remember. It's not a planeswalker.
Starting point is 01:02:50 It's something else. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Oh oh i know oh nickel bolus yeah no no that's not the one but anyways you get the concept so like i was like spending a lot of money and then i i chased that mythic rank and i played i mean to the detriment of my own like income generating ability i was like not streaming i was just outside playing magic for like two weeks i finally got mythic and i was like not streaming. I was just outside playing magic for like two weeks. I finally got mythic and I was like, you know what? I think I'm done with magic. I just stopped playing after that. Oh, it'll get you back. It'll get you. Diablo Immortal, similarly.
Starting point is 01:03:11 No, I'm going to play the 40K game when it comes out. Very second. New trailer for it came out today. If you haven't seen it, everybody should go look at it. The new Darktide trailer. Very cool looking. They give you a lot of like nitty gritty 4K background, which that's the
Starting point is 01:03:25 kind of shit that gets me hard like exposing a broader audience to the the the lore of 40k because the more people who know about it the more people will be into it and the more like mainstream products will get made like tv shows and movies and like triple a games because that is one of the coolest you know for universes ever it's sci-fi and trying to get that made he's trying to get a 40 40k uh like tv show made yeah who's trying to do that henry and then also like red dead he wants to try to get red dead made as well so he's he's fighting the good fight for the game good that's that's awesome didn't he left the witcher after be like because i know he was obsessed with like the story of the witcher
Starting point is 01:04:01 and everything going in and then he left because like he didn't like the direction they were going so reportedly reportedly but if that's the truth like i've got a lot of confidence in this guy like pushing for 40k like pushing for all this stuff because he'll want to like hold true to like the fucked up world of 40k yeah i had heard i thought season one was really good and then i kind of season two kind of lost me i stopped watching but i heard of all the complaints i hear about the witcher show yeah of all the complaints that i hear i never hear people complain about him like no he's a good actor and like what like watching the witcher it was one of those shows that i was like god i want to like this this is
Starting point is 01:04:37 such a cool world i want to like this but then a monster would pop up or some bit of dialogue with nothing but like ham- handed exposition comes up. And it's like we are in this awesome world with nothing but potential. And it's being hamstrung by nonsense. Like, come on. Like, that's that's that's the swamp monster. It looks like a Scooby Doo guy like wearing a hat. It looks terrible.
Starting point is 01:04:57 See, I really want to get your thoughts on Rings of Power. I haven't watched it. We refuse to watch. Yes. I'm happy to have lost out on it. I haven't watched that. We refuse to watch. You're lost. I'm happy to have lost that. I haven't thought about it at all. I'm only three episodes into House of the Dragon. Me too. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I finished that. We love that. It's almost like I'm hesitant to jump back. I don't want to be let down again. No, it gets better. You haven't even gotten to the adult queen yet. Not really queen, but the adult princess yet. Because you've still got the little girl princess, right? Oh, she grows up.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I think I'm at the end of that. Like an episode begins and now you've got everybody gets, a few people get recast and you've got older versions of them. And it's important to get that bandaid off. I think the show suffered a little bit because they do like a bunch of big time jumps because they're trying to get you to What is it the dance of the dance of dragons trying to get you to that war? So I understand that there was a necessity to move things along
Starting point is 01:05:56 I'm fine with it now my issue with it thus far is this and Game of Thrones was about like this universe of houses fighting each other the lannisters the starks the tyrells that go on the tallies etc and it was this giant land and across the narrow sea house of the dragon is more like dallas which is a drama tv show reference none of you will get about one family feuding with itself you know who's gonna get the inheritance who's gonna get this who's gonna get that and i'm like where's the fucking rest of this universe i'm only three episodes in but i wish it was grander it does feel smaller and more you know insulated than than game of thrones i understand yeah it's brother versus cousin at the um bad
Starting point is 01:06:42 so i think they're building up i think to that is what the thing is so so i've seen the whole season i'm not gonna spoil anything but this is one of those instances where there's a lot of yada yada yada and then there was a giant war where the greatest house of all fell low with their dragons fighting one another and the yada yada yada is that this first season frankly because there's a lot of they did no it's a good show please be careful i'm not gonna spoil anything thank you yeah i'm not saying it's not worth watching it was tremendously good and there's several episodes that are excellent i would say it has three excellent episodes out of ten and that's that's saying a lot here's i um um matt smith kills it um the guy who plays
Starting point is 01:07:27 uh the king it's i'm a little removed from seeing the show but the agon agon kills it the little girl kills it and um there's a creepy character who's like uh sort of the whisperer of uh of secrets maybe or pete the guy who looks exactly like Mayor Pete? They got Pete Buttigieg in there. And he... And I don't want to... You guys know I love Pete Buttigieg. Oh, they got...
Starting point is 01:07:52 He's in there. They got him guest starring. And he's like a real... He's like a freaky, fetishistic whisperer of lies. He's only getting cooler. He is very cool. He is maybe the lamest character I've seen in a show in a in a
Starting point is 01:08:05 show in a while but like no i love to watch him but like as i'm into freaky kinky shit i don't know this is pretty pathetic but uh no i like the show a lot and i'm glad that they they lay out a lot we need we need like 25 30 years of history behind this you need to know what happened when these people were children so that you know why they dislike each other as teenagers and when they become adults why they have to fight and kill each other like and you get all of that in season one so that this doesn't have to be five six seasons before we get the big war like next season's the war that leads me into something i love it's going, but I love, what do they call it? Batch watching?
Starting point is 01:08:46 Binge watching. I'm sorry. I lost my mind for a moment. Binge watching is great. I have rewatched Better Call Saul and Game of Thrones, and they're both better in binge watch form. I remember complaining about the lack of plot progression. It's like one of my primary concerns. If we get 10 episodes this year right so we have
Starting point is 01:09:06 10 50 minute episodes and that's it i've been waiting a year for these things to coming out to come out i'm very much invested and here we are episode six drops and i'm like fuck yeah i've been waiting all day long while i mowed the grass i was thinking that tonight this episode i'm gonna watch this show hey family clear out daddy's got the projector room tonight you know you guys y'all gotta find something else to do with yourself i'm the fucking boss this hour and then i sit down and at the end of this hour-long show i can tell you what happened in 13 seconds because nothing fucking happened it was just a bunch of yada yada but here's where i'm headed to when it when you binge
Starting point is 01:09:46 watch it and you get to watch like three episodes in a night then that slow thing if one of the episodes didn't quite deliver it's fine i enjoy this show so much more in binge form at least if you're gonna do weekly episodes if it is a slower episode fucking give us the next episode you know have it have it be a two episode week if you're gonna do that that would make that sting a little bit less But like I'm watching and or right now. I don't know if you guys are watching that show and I don't know this I haven't heard of it. Okay. Is it Star Wars? You need to trust me on this one. Okay? I'm gonna say something outlandish right now and or is the best content that we've ever gotten from Star Wars and I'm including the original trilogy I'm not fucking kidding is that where
Starting point is 01:10:30 the Ewoks are from no Cassian and or is a character from Rogue One it's Disney Plus and it is about the the grime and the grit in the dirt of the Star Wars Universe there's no Jedi there's no magic it grit and the dirt of the Star Wars universe. There's no Jedi. There's no magic. It's all politics, birth of the rebellion. The cast is terrific. It's like a spy espionage type angle to Star Wars, and it's unlike anything Star Wars has ever done. And I love Mandalorian, but I can kind of take it or leave it.
Starting point is 01:11:03 So overrated. I think it's a little overrated, personally. I thought Boba Fett was bad. I thought obi-wan Kenobi was bad and Andor it has blown me away Just blown me away, and they do it in this really cool way, too Because it's like all one season, but there are like these three episode arcs So like the last three episodes is like a prison breakout and so it's these self-contained sort of stories within is it like a like a one-off mini-series well you know i don't know if you've seen rogue one but cassian andor dies and i haven't seen any of the star wars uh rogue one is the best according to me the best star
Starting point is 01:11:40 wars movie of them all it's my very favorite i love it the last 45 minutes is just like peak star wars you know i'm gonna spoil it a little bit i don't care i'm not okay i knew going into it that everybody dies everybody dies in that movie no one fucking lives no one that you care about makes it out of rogue one and they give you hope here and there no one makes it and at the end i loved it i love shows that kill their characters it's the strongest part of walking dead no one's safe rick's fucking dead for all i know nobody is safe in that when game of thrones killed ned stark hooked i'm like you if anyone had plot armor in season one of game of thrones it was ned stark right the whole fucking show revolved around that guy the guy played boromir and it's like 2009 and it's like oh they got their fantasy guy
Starting point is 01:12:42 he'll be okay like yes what i thought yeah i was devastated when he fucking died and then it just made me so hooked to the show but what it did is it made at least in my heart john snow's not safe tyrian's not safe joffrey's not safe sansa's not safe nobody's safe because if ned stark can die anybody can die. Anybody can die. Yeah. And when Rogue One delivered and killed everybody, I was like, best Star Wars movie ever made. But Rogue One would have been better as a longer episodic series. Because as much as I like Rogue One, I didn't get as attached to these characters in a meaningful way as I could have if I had learned more about them. They had to rush a lot of character development because they're all fucking dead at the end of the movie.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I think a TV show's potential is higher. And Andor is made by the same team, Woody. It's made by the same fucking writing team. They brought on a lot of the people that worked on Chernobyl, which if you've ever watched that, it's just incredible. That was what made Game of Thrones suck a dick at the end palatable because
Starting point is 01:13:45 hbo was like we got a cool new show and i was like fine fuckers i guess i'll watch this show the guy who wrote chernobyl craig mazen is writing the last of us series that's rumored to come out in january is that gonna be a horror i haven't played last of us not necessarily horror but more you know like post-apocalyptic uh or dystopian future you know like uh like walking dead style i would i would you know that's my lifetime and maybe all of ours i i feel like the premiere kind of like media content has changed from movies to tv if you're telling me your whole story arc gets told in two hours now, I'm like, eh, you probably have a weak story. But shows like Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad, maybe Andor,
Starting point is 01:14:32 they have the time to really develop a story much better than a movie ever could. I'm re-watching Breaking Bad again. I forgot how great it was. It's even better in binge form. Did you like El Camino? The movie? great it was like it's even better in binge form did you like el camino uh the movie i i wanted to like it i i didn't think it was that special oh i loved it it's almost like like you're amped up for the slow i really enjoyed the kind of slow roll of a lot of
Starting point is 01:14:58 parts of breaking bad like those some people disliked it and you know i'll admit like that fly episode where like the fly episode was stupid that was too much but there were other episodes where it's all great i love that episode i hated the fly episode and it's only it's more palatable in binge form though that was one of the three episodes i saw that day but like there's other slow roll ones where it's like jesse spending the whole episode in that crack den with that little kid and then the guy gets his head crushed by the atm or whatever like yeah that was like a tremendous slow roll like building the suspense like like showing like all the intricacies of what he's dealing with right now but yeah the camino i didn't think it was that great the payoff of that if you guys don't remember the storyline then after the atm machine
Starting point is 01:15:38 fell on the crackhead's head suddenly jesse was regarded as like the biggest badass in the meth dealer scene everyone had this respect because they thought jesse somehow regarded as like the biggest badass in the meth dealer scene everyone had this respect because they thought jesse somehow did it like used an atm machine to kill a rival and now all his rivals are oh yeah i'm scared of him the hank scene the second to last the second to last season that was like the big that was like the most holy shit moment for me that was like right up there for like the with the ned stark situation i love that they killed my stomach in that scene i was like oh my god yeah yeah yeah because i couldn't believe it some plot armor felt like it was developing right you
Starting point is 01:16:15 know hank went to i think he was literally in mexico and there's a tortoise with a bomb on it and everyone dies but hank and it's like what what is this? Battle of the Bastards? How is he surviving this horse shit? But doesn't survive forever. I love it when shows can really get me scared. And I was so attached to Hank as a character. You get so attached to him along the way because he's this hard ass. And he's kind of aloof. He's obviously aloof to everything that Walter's doing. But by the end, it's like this real kind of dark turn to him. He becomes obsessed,
Starting point is 01:16:46 but along the way, like his whole situation with the minerals, you get like, all of a sudden, you're just like so attached to him. His wife has some sort of personality disorder with her klepto-ish, like when she gets stressed, she's a kleptomaniac, she's a habitual liar. I hated Hank.
Starting point is 01:17:02 You hated Hank? Fuck Hank. When he he died i was like you could hey i loved my favorite moment it was like the peak of breaking bad to me is when he sits there with his like thief of a wife and they have to watch that DVD that Walter has sent them. And they're like, oh no. He's smarter than us. I'm like, that was when the show peaked.
Starting point is 01:17:33 And then it's like downhill because then Walter kind of falls apart heading forward. I got to take off at 6 and I fucking really want to get your guys reactions to the midterms. The red wave. The red wave. Look to hear the red wave look at this missouri missouri legalizes marijuana great news for me yeah yeah i didn't vote but i'm
Starting point is 01:17:54 glad it panned out you don't you don't solidarity taylor taylor doesn't vote in solidarity until i'm allowed to vote i'm from a good friend do you want to join that pact with us, Hutch? Do you here now want to pledge alongside Taylor to not vote until I'm allowed to vote? The only thing that possibly triggers me more than somebody telling me they don't vote is the skill-based matchmaking. No, I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 01:18:23 He refuses to vote. He goes there. He tells them his opinions on every candidate he researches them thoroughly and then he does not go down the ticket no harass everyone let me tell you why i'm not voting red blue red blue all the way down because he's about values and who can do the best job but he still doesn't vote it triggers me less if you don't vote but but you don't actively try to get other people to not vote then i'm like that's what we do here i don't like that but i can somewhat tolerate it's the people that are like i don't vote and then they fucking spend half their time on twitter trying to convince other people that there's no point in voting in the
Starting point is 01:19:01 title of this video it's gonna to say hashtag don't vote. I will never lend my celebrity. It's too late. You just did it. The title's going to be Hutch says don't vote. I will sue you. I will sue you. You'd have to sue Zach.
Starting point is 01:19:19 He's the one who puts the titles in. I will get my best lawyer on that. You're going to get dozens of dollars yeah i don't i don't see anybody out i guess i don't follow it like you do like i don't see anybody out there being like don't vote oh don't you fucking vote they exist my friend they exist in large numbers on the the far far left the you know the left I thought you were gonna say right the no they vote no I actually you know I honestly in the last three years I have
Starting point is 01:19:49 spent 95% of the arguments that I have on Twitter are with that crowd which crowd more communists the far left like I'm sorry about the actual hammer and sickle communists okay yeah yeah well you shouldn't pay too much attention to communists I'm a little out of date Yeah. Well, you shouldn't pay too much attention to communists. I'm a little out of date now, but I used to spend time on Facebook reading about politics too much. And he's a boomer. Those guys were like, this is all corrupt.
Starting point is 01:20:14 They don't count the votes. It's all a conspiracy. Don't vote. Don't bother. Who cares? Trump says it. Did you guys see? I don't know if you guys saw it.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Trump. It finally happened, Trump full-on went for DeSantis' jugular on Truth Social tonight. Tonight? What happened? Like, really went after him, which I think is, I mean, I love it as like a lifelong Democrat. It's like great news for me because it's, I mean, the implications for that I think are quite obvious. me because it's i mean the implications for that i think are quite obvious but um this is the worst time for him to go after desantis who had the he desantis is arguably like this has the strongest position within the republican party right now and donald trump has never been weaker after after
Starting point is 01:21:00 tuesday's there's a lot to read here. It would take like three minutes. I highly recommend you reading it. Cause I got to pee, but yeah. All right. I'll take it on. I'm wearing my glasses. Um, news Corp,
Starting point is 01:21:12 which is Fox, the wall street journal and the no longer great New York post are all in for governor Ron to sanctimonious, an average Republican governor with a great public relations who didn't have the close, who didn't have to close up his state, but did unlike other Republican governors whose overall numbers for Republican were just average middle of the pack, including COVID and who has the advantage of sunshine where people from badly run states up North would go no matter who's who the governor
Starting point is 01:21:41 was just like I did. All right. So he's saying people are moving there for the good weather. Ron came to me in desperate shape in 2017. He was politically dead, losing in a landslide to a very good agricultural commissioner, Adam Putnam, who was loaded up with cash and had great poll numbers. Ron had low approval, bad polls, and no money. But he said that if I would endorse him, he could win. I didn't know Adam, so I said, let's give it a shot, Ron. And when I endorsed him, it was as though, to use a bad term, a nuclear weapon went off. Years later, they were the exact words that Adam Putner used in describing Ron's endorsement. He said, I went from having it made with no competition to immediately getting clobbered after your endorsement.
Starting point is 01:22:26 And then I got Ron by the star of the Democrat Party, Andrew Gilliam, who was later revealed to be a crackhead. By having two massive rallies with tens of thousands of people at each one. I also fixed his campaign, which had completely fallen apart. I was all in for Ron and he beat Gilliam. Gilliam? Gilliam? Gilliam. Gilliam, thank you.
Starting point is 01:22:50 But after the race, when votes were stolen by the corrupt election process in Broward County and Ron was going down 10,000 votes a day, along with now Senator Rick Scott, I sent in the FBI and U.S. attorneys and the ballot theft immediately ended. Just prior to them running out the votes necessary to win. I stopped his election from being stolen. And now Rhonda Sanctimonious is playing games, exclamation point. The fake news asks him if he is going to run if Trump runs. And he says, I'm only focused on the governor race. I'm not looking into the future. Well, in terms of loyalty and class, that's not
Starting point is 01:23:25 really the right answer. This is just like 2015 and 16. A media assault collusion when Fox News fought me to the end until I won, and then they couldn't have been nicer and more supportive. The Wall Street Journal loved low-energy Jeb Bush and a succession of other people
Starting point is 01:23:42 as they rapidly disappeared from sight, finally falling in line with me after I easily knocked them out one by one. We're in exactly the same position now. They will keep coming after us, Maga, but ultimately we will win. Put America first and
Starting point is 01:23:58 make America great again. Okay. Let me ask you a question, Woody. When you read those words, do you feel that the same way you feel when captain america picks up mjolnir or dude it's equally inspired you know what like what i will never get tired about like the way the way that trump writes is like the the random capitalizations where he'll he'll just randomly he'll be randomly say he is a crackhead. It's like, ah, yes, the proper noun, crackhead.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Honestly, Ron DeSanctimonious, that is far and away the worst nickname he's ever done. That's a ton of syllables. Most people don't know what sanctimonious means. I had to Google it. I looked it up. up i was like what does sanctimonious mean exactly and gosh i need to recheck it taylor but it means basically someone who like follows uh holier than now someone who's oh oh my goodness i'm holier than i'm better than you like regard yourself as morally superior than the average human i think which like i don't know shit about ron desantis really but like go out and do something funnier than that like no one's compelled by that ron desanctimonious ron desanctimonious you make a six you know what's good you know what's good toxic trump
Starting point is 01:25:15 toxic trump who no one will vote for if they just bang that drum he's toxic trump he's lost america toxic trump everyone's tired of his act. Everyone's tired of his lies. So this is like an interesting Game of Thrones. This is an interesting Game of Thrones moment right now because he has forced Ron DeSantis to respond in some way.
Starting point is 01:25:38 DeSantis has clearly been positioning himself to take up the mantle whenever Trump's time is done. He's for sure gonna make a run for the nomination will almost certainly get it now he's in a position where he can't look weak and just be like you know what didn't mean to offend you sir yada yada yada because then they're never gonna respect them the way that they respect Trump wait you think DeSantis you said he's for sure gonna run for the nomination and get it but i didn't know who was for sure going to get it desantis is well the only thing like if you would ask me a week ago
Starting point is 01:26:11 then trump i think i would tell you like a hundred percent like desantis has like you know 25 of the maybe the the republican voter base think he should be the nominee and and it was like 52 percent were trump and then the rest were split between them like just a bunch of like weird mishmash of people but after Tuesday I have no idea what those polls are gonna look like in a week because Donald Trump almost single-handedly tanked his party's chances of murdering the Democrats in a midterm that should have been a bloodbath. Barack Obama lost 63 seats. 63 seats in 2010, with economic worry being the chief concern. Bill Clinton lost 54 seats with a massive crime wave and economic worry being a chief concern. Democrats are not in
Starting point is 01:27:04 a strong position. Joe biden has been hovering around a 42 in the aggregate for months now he's never been a you know the only time he was like kind of popular was like right in the beginning and then the afghanistan withdrawal happened he's never recovered from that he got he went up a little bit recently because there's some he's done some stuff that people like but not in a meaningful way like three four points i'm seeing the same thing. I don't know about Trump tanking it. My guess from the way the Republicans underperformed
Starting point is 01:27:32 was, I thought Roe v. Wade was the big explanation. It's hard to put one thing on it. I want to jump in. Roe v. Wade and the exit polls was the number one issue. You're not wrong, that's for sure. No, no. The economy was the number one issue. I think inflation was number that's for sure. No, I saw it. The economy was the number one issue. I think inflation was
Starting point is 01:27:48 number one. I'm only as good as my sources. I'm seeing abortion. In Pennsylvania, abortion was a little bit more than inflation. Okay. So anyway, abortion was the number one thing. Hey, don't talk about slutty women. We like slutty women. I like whores!
Starting point is 01:28:11 They're a friend of the show um anyway um um oh oh the the tactic the democrats did where they donated and campaigned on behalf of the wacky republican election it seems like it worked well they all got their asses kicked people aren't really into what trump is selling anymore which is like bullshit and lies. Election denial, it doesn't fly. Okay, so election denial will never be done with that. That doesn't fly with me, certainly. I won't say that I'm down on Trump, but what Trump can't sell me is these wackadoo people.
Starting point is 01:28:40 When you look at some of those people that he propped up, it's like, what was... Why did he pick Herschel Walker? All right, so that's different. If you look at some of those people they propped up it's like what was why do you pick her walker what all right so that's different hurt if you look at how close that is herschel's fine if you're appealing will win in a runoff he will run off watch you just look how close it is look look look who was the other candidate but wait georgia it shouldn't be close in georgia i don't know who walker who Walker could have picked. I mean, we're not the incumbent. I get that it was kind of a weird thing last time when he won. But Atlanta is definitely like the population base.
Starting point is 01:29:13 It's mostly black. It's all blue. And then you've got the rest of the red around Atlanta here. Herschel Walker is a huge name here. I knew Herschel Walker's name from way back. Herschel Walker's name was spoken in high school with reverence. He did not get that much of the black vote. He did not.
Starting point is 01:29:30 He ran against the black guys. He did not, but he got all the white vote. It's going to go to a runoff, and Herschel Walker is no longer going to be buoyed by Kemp, who is a somewhat popular, in today's standards, is a somewhat popular governor. He's not going to be on the ticket anymore. Libertarian, you can't really
Starting point is 01:29:49 accurately predict with tremendous amount of accuracy. I'm not calling the election. What I'm saying is that Herschel Walker's not a bad candidate when it's this close. He's a horrible candidate. I think he's a terrible candidate. Look how close it is. I do understand your argument that George is awful.
Starting point is 01:30:06 You guys are talking about, oh, he doesn't speak well, or his past this, or his policies that. His name is Herschel Walker, and because you're not from here, it doesn't mean anything to you. He played for the Eagles. It means plenty to me, all right? You owe him. No one here knows him.
Starting point is 01:30:22 I promise you. I'm not saying he'll win. did a thousand push-ups a day for us if you don't think an institutional boring kind of republican could have could have probably beat uh i mean i had certainly had a better chance of beating fetterman in pennsylvania but he went with oh now that's fair with us like he like all these extremist candidates he had a horrible night in terms of who he endorsed. Would you feel comfortable with Fetterman representing you personally in a business deal that you couldn't be present at? In a business deal?
Starting point is 01:30:55 I'm making it personal about you now. It's easy to make him the representative of Pennsylvania, but he's going to represent you. Here's the thing. Activision wants you to make a little content for him with this new season that's about to pop. Fetterman's going to be your guy. He's in the meeting with the guys from Activision. They got some of the devs there, too. They want some input from you.
Starting point is 01:31:14 You've given Fetterman your thoughts on a number of issues, but he's going in. I don't think these are... You know, I would have voted for Fetterman over Roz, for sure. That's not the question. Kyle, Kyle, he's not doing something as important as mitigating a business deal for Hutch individually. He's running Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Calm down with these extreme examples. An ability to cogently communicate with people in politics? Pish posh! What is politics if not fundamentally communication? There is a thing. We know his issues in advance. Well, give him the speaking spell.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Don't worry. No, we know he's going to be pro-life. We know he's going to be pro-pod. He's sick. And I hope he recovers, but until he does, maybe not public office, huh? But he shouldn't... Yeah. I don't even need him to communicate. I just need him to vote the way I wish he'd vote. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:32:03 He can do that with a gag in his mouth. Is that all they are? Is like proxy votes? That's why. Is representatives? Ideally, they're proxy votes for Woody. That would be. Directly for me.
Starting point is 01:32:14 That's why you vote for a politician. You're not looking for these people. That's why I'd like if you're a Republican in Georgia, I get why you're voting for Hershel Walker. What's the alternative? You don't want Warnock. Like, I get it. I'm not going to, like, criticize them. How could they vote for someone who had fucking, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:27 paid for an abortion and lied about it? I'm like, what the fuck? You know, like, is he going to vote for you to get tax breaks? Then obviously you're going to vote for him. By the way, no one on the right cares about that. So they'll vote for someone who can't communicate. They would vote for a Republican in Pennsylvania, though. The fact that they think that's an effective scandal still to, like, accuse
Starting point is 01:32:43 Herschel Walker of paying for abortions is laughable. That's a crazy scandal to me, though. I mean, come on. Exactly. To you, because you were never going to vote for him, though. And neither were the other people who think it's a crazy scandal. To everyone on the right, they're like, sounds like the man got some pussy. Hell yeah, Herschel.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I bet Herschel was pounding that pussy. Ain't no telling how many abortions he had to take. What a man's supposed to do? Raise 25 kids look all these women they don't want to have babies because it's inconvenient for them on the money herschel stances you don't have babies when it's inconvenient for the man that's a guy i can get i wish that democratic voters treated voting like Republican voters do. I wish that they would stop looking at these candidates to be perfect moral examples of how you should exist in the world. And they should just vote in the interest of the best candidate in terms of the pursuit of their political goals.
Starting point is 01:33:38 And that's it. I really don't think any moral failing should stop you from voting for someone who's going to provide crucial votes in the Senate and who's going to help you maintain your majority. I really believe that. And, you know, so I get it. Even brain damage. We'll take the brain damage, the amoral, the criminals. He was told people have strokes and recover. People have strokes and recover people have strokes and recover
Starting point is 01:34:05 and when he does we'd love to vote for him he went to a doctor the doctor told him I don't see any reason why you can't serve in this office Trump went to a doctor too do you see that press release television woman newspaper wall 235
Starting point is 01:34:20 that's the point he went to the doctor the doctor cleared him and it's like i had no reason to believe he wasn't physically capable of like being the president who trump trump trump no of course not but i don't think fetterman is it's the healthiest president you couldn't answer the question for a reason you were like wait a minute well i mean i don't know about all that i mean the one about the business thing i wouldn't want bernie representing me in like a business meeting but i would support all he has to do all he has to do is push your ideas what i'm saying is that fetterman can't do that that that effectively like all he has to do is go in there and like look hutch says he works for
Starting point is 01:34:56 this this is what he gets paid and he is available for these dates for these days and oh yeah he's amenable to that and this again i do not care like as long as fetterman is there to vote for policies and to vote to confirm for judges to confirm judges that i want to see on the bench i don't give a fuck if he's like not that great of a brain damaged leader not hung up on one senator's brain damage to me the big story is that fealty to Trump has ruined the Republican Party, and they're starting to see it the same way I do. It could be.
Starting point is 01:35:30 I think my feeling was that Roe v. Wade really inspired Democrats to come out in a big way. He was the one who put the judges on the bench who did that in the first place. I think the Republican Party is having a big careful what you wish for moment for because for a long time they were totally fine being the party that just kind of stopped the federal government from doing too many meaningful things they should have I'm sorry can I jump in though they should have handled abortion the same way Democrats handle guns which is like oh yeah yeah we don't like it in theory and like maybe we should have some common sense background checks or something but let's move on you got any other topics you want to talk about that's it but democrats haven't taken your guns they haven't done shit since clinton which
Starting point is 01:36:15 is like 1994 or something like that it that's incalculable that's 28 years ago since the democrats did anything about guns they don't do shit. Republicans actually got something done on abortion, and it was a mistake. It was a careful decision. It looks like a big miscalculation for them. Let me play the devil's advocate here then. Everyone seems to think it's a huge mistake, right? Here's what I see from the outside looking in. They still won, right?
Starting point is 01:36:40 They still won. They had more – all right. Well, then let me lay this. No, it's my – I asked if I could talk. You said they still won. They had more seats. All right. Well, then let me lay this. No, I asked if I could talk. You said they still won, right? Okay. It was a rhetorical question. They still won, right?
Starting point is 01:36:53 They have more. We literally don't know. This is the part where we need to talk about rhetorical questions. Okay. They still won, right? They'll probably win that. They have more seats. They have more votes.
Starting point is 01:37:10 You talked about, oh, every time this this happens there's usually a big swing yeah every time this happens every two years this shit happens i'm talking about a generational thing that can't be undone for a very long time with roe v wade they won they won and the winning is done they won forever they won until you can add more judges to the court somehow. At what cost? They won until, at the cost of this two-year cycle, not going so well. We didn't blow them out this cycle. From the perspective of older GOP people, people that are very pro-life, they see this as a huge win. Because obviously, if you believe that is murder, you see that as an enormous an enormous this is a national title for them like this is a world championship this is a world
Starting point is 01:37:49 championship that they have been grinding against against their hated rival for the last 40 50 years and they won and you're saying yeah but we lost our triple a team lost look how badly your triple a team it's a permanent liability until they They don't know the representatives' names. They don't care. But they know that abortion is on the way out. And they love it. You can't govern or be given a mandate to govern by strictly appealing to pro-life boomers.
Starting point is 01:38:16 It's just not going to help you out in the long run at all. And this issue isn't going away until they codify Roe. It's a huge amount of women. It's a huge amount of women. It's a huge amount of women and it's a huge way more than you would think. Look at the polls. Look how many women are pro-life. I think it's a higher percentage of women than men. No.
Starting point is 01:38:36 That would surprise me. Is that true? No, no, no. It's like two out of three women oppose getting rid of Roe v. Wade. And it's like half of men. And whether it's good or bad for the future politically, they don't care. This is a moral victory. They really mean it when they think abortion is murder.
Starting point is 01:38:52 When they say that abortion is murder, they mean it, Hutch. Like when they're not, that isn't them like being like, you know how we say things. They're not being dramatic. That's what they believe. I understand that. I'm not saying they're wrong. I'm just okay with murder in certain situations. They think a holocaust
Starting point is 01:39:08 has been going on and finally Donald Trump stopped an ongoing holocaust. But that is a minority opinion. And you think that this is going to energize Republican voters? I think it doesn't matter because the game's over. The Supreme Court is not over.
Starting point is 01:39:24 It doesn't matter. You've's over. The Supreme Court is not over. It doesn't matter. You've got two branches and then you've got the executive. The Supreme Court clearly nullifies all of those. And Donald Trump made sure that he won that. So how do you win again? You can codify Roe. Do they have the votes? No, they do not.
Starting point is 01:39:47 row you can write it you can really have the votes no they do not but do you understand this this is something that energizes Democratic voters and it will continue to energize them every two years because there's gonna be these stories coming out of Ohio a fucking 12 year old girls forced to give birth and shit and it's just it's not gonna stop and it's just a permanent liability until it gets codified so now now democrats have the same fucking carrot that the republicans were dangling if you fucking if you elect us you know appealing to their sort of evangelical the other way they're doing that now they're now the ball's in their democrats hands and they get to tell people we and they will they will codify roe if you give them a filibuster proof majority in the senate and a
Starting point is 01:40:24 majority in the house and a president. Wow. That's 60 in the Senate, isn't it? It is. Yes. It's pretty rare. But it happened with Obamacare. Obamacare.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Well, now you have it. It's a big swing. It happens, though. That's the thing. It did. I mean, it happened like 10 years ago, like you said. Let me ask you this. 12 years ago.
Starting point is 01:40:40 We're talking about here, so the Republicans probably know that they should make sure that that doesn't get codified, right? Can't they preemptively make sure that it doesn't matter? It's a losing issue. It's a losing issue. They don't care about losing, Hutch. I promise you Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy care about losing. I love, just if we can look at this graph for a second, like the 55% All-America, pro-choice, 39% pro-life. I love the 5% at the bottom.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I can't be bothered. This is for the birds. That's the stable number. That bump is not going away. And you know who was the biggest? I probably don't even have to tell you. The age group of people in this country that swung the hardest for the Democrats We're fucking young people 30 plus and under swung for the Democrats by a high the highest margin ever
Starting point is 01:41:31 And they and they registered a shitload of people in these states That are now passing laws to restrict or outlaw abortion. It is energizing Democrats and it will not go away It's just like this permanent thing that Democrats can point to. No, you're right about that. But in the meantime, the Republicans aren't going to be energized. They're going to change huge tentpole like laws. They're going to they're going to go after affirmative action. They'll get that. And they're going to take several more things away. And and it won't be it won't be like, yeah, we're going to energize two, four, six, eight, 12 years from now. We're codifying a thing that'll really get your B and be in your bonnet. In the meantime, laws are changing.
Starting point is 01:42:14 The more these outrageous Supreme Court decisions are dropped that are wildly out of step with American approval, disapproval ratings, that are wildly out of step with American approval disapproval ratings is the more ammunition you're giving to people like AOC and whoever that so we should expand the court hutch pause on that idea we're all the center of our own universe to me getting rid of affirmative action is popular not unpopular how do you see it I don't think that's true. You think affirmative action is popular? I'd have to look it up. Yeah. I suspect that where you are in LA, it's like everyone thinks this is a good idea.
Starting point is 01:42:53 And where I am in Raleigh, no one thinks it's a good idea. And I'm not sure who's right. When I hear affirmative action, the word cocksucker immediately follows it in my mind. Yeah, that affirmative action cocksucker immediately follows it in my mind yeah i think you might be right about that i'm right okay yeah yeah well if there's one thing like i i want people to give me credit for is i don't assume that everybody thinks like the people that I live in close proximity to. And I think that's like a big failure of imagination that happens, especially when you're talking about people on like the far left, the people that I interact with a lot, they can't conceive of like, well, actually, you know, if you, if you actually
Starting point is 01:43:37 got rid of all student loan debt, that would actually be unpopular. Like what Biden did was actually like right on the margins of like 50%, you know, that, that, that was like, but you don't like it. No, I think that it redistributes wealth to people who are thriving. Now I know you might argue people with student loan debt aren't thriving, but they're doing look, college is still a good investment. The people who went to college have lower workplace injury investment. The people who went to college have lower workplace injury rates. They have higher income. They have lower unemployment rates. They're doing fine. So we're taking money from the general population and funneling it into our most successful quadrant college graduates. And I'm like, why? How's that fair? I've heard. Yeah. So I'm kind of agnostic on that issue, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:44:25 I don't have a firm stance on it. I'm like, I can understand. I agree. I'm not going to tell you that I think that that's an invalid opinion. I understand why people have that opinion. So I didn't really like... Did you have any student loan debts that you got forgiven? No, I wouldn't qualify for it.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Oh, man. student loan deaths that you got forgiven no i can't i wouldn't qualify for it oh man see it made me wish that we had to preemptively take all taken at some some student loan debts out here for for some obscure class locally yeah just just cash that on in it just it did just i don't know that one came out of left field but it's well the the the like the part about that that I did like is that it stretched it out to 20K for Pell Grant recipients. We know a guy that got that. I think that that will make a lot of people happy, and it certainly is a policy position that made a lot of young people happy. I don't know what was the biggest motivating factor for uh young people swinging so far for democrats by like historic margins in these elections whether that was row or college student loan
Starting point is 01:45:31 debt but i know that for a lot of young people they were like we don't i don't know if they were saying we don't want 50 000 relief or just get rid of all student loan debt which i always thought was kind of like ridiculous but but there are policies i could come up with that will make people happy that i don't think are good right like what if i just took the child care tax credit and made it like 30 grand a kid right they're gonna get a ton of votes from parents but it's still bad and stupid and that would have immediate consequences on the economy that would be like experienced by everybody i might have a kid i mean i might have a few kids you might have a few already we don't know. I might start
Starting point is 01:46:06 claiming them. The child tax credit was an extremely popular policy. During the pandemic, especially, it was a lifeline for a lot of people. Just an extra $300 a month can make a huge difference when you're living paycheck to paycheck, and there's a lot of uncertainty about jobs and the economy in the middle of a pandemic. Can we shift from something a little less dreary and a little more silly? I saw
Starting point is 01:46:35 an interview with a homeless person. I like my YouTube shorts, as you know. I eat them like candy. And there was this homeless man in San Francisco, all tatted up, but he was well-kempt. It looked like he had a name brand hoodie on, I think, and there was this homeless man in in san francisco all tatted up but he was like well-kempt like it looked like he was he had like a name brand hoodie on i think and he was taught he he was like it's not so bad it's not so bad here he's like be honest with you they basically pay you they're like pay you for what you know to be homeless he's like i can i can have a place
Starting point is 01:46:59 he's like they give me 620 a month cash 200 bucks a month food stamps i got my own phone he's like, they give me $620 a month cash, 200 bucks a month food stamps. I got my own phone. He's like, man, I got Amazon Prime. I got Netflix. I ain't got no commercials on my Netflix. What are you talking about? And this is a guy with like, he's got face tattoos like out of The Expanse. He looks like he's from The Belt.
Starting point is 01:47:25 This is like a common, like, complete misconception about poverty and homelessness in this country. And it goes back to like Reagan and the welfare Queens where it's like, there's a lot of people that are convinced that homeless people have it better off than middle-class families. Cause they can just, you know, they're living the high life when really it's like pretty fucking shitty life. Oh, I would think that it's very rare that there's guys like the belt allowed that I'm talking about that that's out there living the good life on the streets. I would say he's in the minority. i think clearly the real problem there is mental illness and that starts with expanding abortion law so that we can abort at any age you know i mean clearly we need to
Starting point is 01:47:57 round these people up and you know abort that's still abortion they're easy to catch that's what a lot of republicans think happen now they think that democrats want you to be able to have an abortion after the baby has been like they literally get on a campaign stage that's a republican a lot of these nagging republicans they're like they want you to be able to fucking kill the baby after you've given birth and it's like that's my frustration with the republican platform lately right like it if it was hey i want small government lower taxes personal freedoms i'd be like okay that's your platform i can respect it i agree with parts of it not other parts cool cool cool but that's not what they say it's like transgender people make up 0.5 of the population
Starting point is 01:48:37 and 80 of the republican talking points they're fucking anti-woke everything all they do is miscast and talk about culture issues their culture warrior stuff is off the hook and it hurt them it hurt them this time around because they have candidates that were focusing on that instead of real issues except in florida if we're being fair the red wave happened down south of florida the sandus and his ticket fucking owned the the whole thing. So it's weird that it happened there and nowhere else. And it's got to be because of DeSantis and his leadership that goes back to the pandemic when he was like, no, we're staying open.
Starting point is 01:49:14 You had those UFC events that were famously there when no sports were on TV. Holy shit, UFC's in Florida and nobody gives a fuck. They're doing it. I think that he carried that popularity on like that that business for covid's not so bad kind of mindset and it works in florida and and would you prefer desantis or trump be the nominee in 2024 um for from what point of view as like an american who wants us strategically oh if i oh do i get to know who my opponent is it's biden it's gonna be biden i'm not convinced it's biden oh if it's then i want i want trump against biden i want trump against biden i wasn't old not only can he run he should run again after last night he's in
Starting point is 01:50:01 a stronger position than he was three days ago to run he had so I agree with that but I don't Biden's dropped a few one he hasn't like promised us he's running again that I hear I always hear like oh I'm still thinking is like the translation he said just yesterday he said my intention is to run again okay I didn't hear that he didn't confirm it but he said my intention is to run again and uh he's also said stuff like i think people should look at age when they're you know picking their candidate and and i was like wow that really hurts you did you think that through or are you not gonna run again come on i can spin that in five seconds oh yeah wisdom's important you want a man that's been around done a thing or two hell i know and start dropping names remember nancy who I thought was alive? Nancy! If he got wiped out... I spoke to Kaiser Wilhelm before this.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Let me tell you a little thing about the Pons, man. You got Chuck Grassley serving in the Senate, who was... He shouldn't be there either. He's 100. He was born before they invented chocolate chip cookies. I saw that, and I call that fake news, because there's no way that no one had come up with fucking chocolate chips in a cookie were they just eating raisins back then and then some genius enlightened them like so come on they were making chocolate if the democrats got slaughtered
Starting point is 01:51:17 on tuesday i would tell i would say like he's probably not gonna run again or he probably shouldn't run again but they didn't get slaughtered. And so what happened on Tuesday demonstrated that this American voting population care more about a lot of other shit than the stupid shit that comes out of Joe Biden's mouth sometimes. That I think it doesn't get said enough. Trump was a bad candidate. Trump lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton was a god-awful candidate, maybe one of the worst in my lifetime. And I don't think Trump could beat anybody but her.
Starting point is 01:51:48 But Joe Biden sat in his basement on Zoom calls, not campaigning, and beat Donald Trump. He didn't, though. He didn't. I always thought that was so funny. Trump was on Twitter and on the media saying,
Starting point is 01:52:04 Joe Biden's out. I'm in Pennsylvania, and Joe Biden's in the basement and then you flip on msnbc and biden's in wisconsin he's in michigan he's in pennsylvania like he was actively campaigning the whole time he just didn't do it as much as trump because we were in the middle of a pandemic and democratic voters wouldn't have wanted to see him throw big rallies they would be like what are you doing where are the masks he threw these weird stay in your car rallies which was interesting because well no one could come but it i think it worked to his advantage because he during especially during the pandemic but maybe just flat out he wasn't gonna get crowds bigger than trump's so he never had to compete on that front by saying we're doing a rally you stay in your car i'll talk'll talk to 38 of you. You got a big fucking crowd in Pennsylvania
Starting point is 01:52:46 before they were trying to prop up Fetterman. Joe Biden doesn't really inspire people. I don't know any Democrats who are like, that's my guy. Joe Biden, the guy who's mostly with it. Put him and Fetterman on a podcast together and you're going to be like, whoa, Biden.
Starting point is 01:53:02 Jeez. They're not voting for someone like Biden because they love really well at this point they're what they would they would consider voting for someone like Biden because he's actually passed a lot of broadly popular policies in the last two years he's gotten way more federal legislation passed in his first two years with slimmer majorities in Congress than Donald Trump did Donald Trump failed to get the ACA repealed and then he got a tax break that nobody really noticed besides like extremely wealthy people and Donald Trump was offered an infrastructure deal he could have been
Starting point is 01:53:35 the infrastructure guy that Biden was but he said I'll only take this if you stop investigating me no that was it. He wanted the wall, too. He wanted them to drop the impeachment stuff on him. They wanted them to stop investigating him and the Mueller report stuff. That was years into his presidency, though. I mean, the infrastructure thing was proposed really early on. I'm going to check that out.
Starting point is 01:53:58 I'm pretty sure I'm right. I'll fact check myself. Remember Infrastructure Week? Every week. Infrastructure Week started, and then it was like the shit went down with his former NSA, Michael Flynn. And then it was just controversy after controversy, after controversy, after controversy for like four months. And so, yeah, he was pursuing an infrastructure deal. Bannon was talking about spending like a trillion dollars on infrastructure when he was a part of
Starting point is 01:54:25 that administration and he just couldn't get it done and then Nancy took over and you're right that he did want them to stop the impeachment stuff but I mean that was obviously never going to happen it's just ridiculous I want to talk about that that's fun to talk about and I just I'm going to fall asleep otherwise if we talk about politics from 12 years ago or something anymore I think. All right. So NBC had that first release, right? That first initial report, it got recommended to me today. They were like, this was taken down from all like websites and publications. And in that one, they lay the events out that the police respond and Paul Pelosi greets them at the door.
Starting point is 01:55:01 And then they follow him in to where the the intruder is and uh only then does a struggle happen which seems so weird that that would that that you know the events could have been laid out like that i don't like elon musk conspiracy theory that that was his gay lover or whatever but i don't hate it either it It is fun. Yeah. I did the tweet in the publication that posted that article about Pelosi. They also alleged that Hillary Clinton died in 2016 and was using the body double. No, no, no, no, no. I know. We've talked about it before.
Starting point is 01:55:36 You've got to follow the facts. Yeah. I hear you saying it's not true, but I haven't heard you disprove it. Yeah. Have you seen Hillary lately in person? I mean, remember when she fell into that van, that was the last we saw of her. And then that was a brand new one. It's been Robo Hillary ever since.
Starting point is 01:55:57 I actually really hate that Musk tweeted that. We made a Hillary clone. Did you figure out the charisma genius? Yeah, Musk. No. Musk made a huge mistake. He was like, i'm this free space adflusionist we need to we're not going to have this be a platform that does hate and and
Starting point is 01:56:11 like he was just he said that twitter needed to be the most accurate source of information and then he tweeted that absolute bullshit and then he said twitter needs to be neutral and then he told everyone to vote republican and it's like musk you're you see did you see all the mass resignations he lost like six or seven senior leadership people on twitter in today it was a mass resignation not only that one of the person that resigned went into an employee slack and basically started shit talking him and said twitter is a danger to its users right now because he's being so reckless and a danger to its users get over like that is well in terms of a data breach in terms of security breach because they're just playing it so fast and loose right now and the way the guy pieced out was by leaving a link to uh whistleblower.org
Starting point is 01:57:01 like it's like kind of a significant thing yeah well i mean if there's like security issues on the back end like that's got to be fucking addressed obviously like you can't just let your security people you guys saw the fake valve thing yesterday like there was like some guy that made a some guy made a a twitter handle that was valve software got it verified with twitter blue and then announced some fucking game that wasn't coming and then valve itself uh posted a tweet to elon saying like you know you need to get your shit together because this is a big fucking problem and then someone else let me add to that touch because i think it's eli lily i'm not positive on the company name someone made an account they paid eight dollars
Starting point is 01:57:42 they got it verified it looks like eli li. They put the corporate logo on there. And they said insulin is now going to be free. And they are like working with Twitter to take that shit down. They're like, we are not giving away free insulin. Somebody made one of Nintendo. I saw the Mario giving the finger one. The middle finger. Somebody did Dave Chappelle and said, I'm no longer TERF people.
Starting point is 01:58:04 Trans people are awesome like i have seen some of the check mark shit and like i cannot wrap my mind around like how that's a good idea like the only reason the check mark is useful and so you can be like oh that's alex ovechkin the guy who plays for the capitals like oh okay like otherwise it kind of loses any meaning at all it's not useful he is over leveraged massively and he said in a in an email that he sent out at 2 30 last night that leaked immediately the next morning that he thinks that twitter is in a dire financial situation if they can't increase revenue before the upcoming what he says or what he predicts to be an economic downturn. Bankruptcy is not off the table.
Starting point is 01:58:51 And his goal is a 50% subscription rate from Twitter users. That's not going to happen. He set a goal of half of users paying $8 a month. I would be blown away if it's 1% of users. Maybe 5. How many users are there? How much money is that? Does he immediately
Starting point is 01:59:14 double his value? 200 million, Kyle, is a good estimate, as I looked at it recently. If every user subscribed to Twitter Blue, it wouldn't even cover his liability that he's going to owe an interest. A little under 400 million globally twitter users i was active i looked at it recently yeah that's what i saw is yours active also i don't know it's from six days ago okay but either way i don't think 200 i just thought the blue check mark thing was clearly such a stupid thing like i mean obviously
Starting point is 01:59:43 from a selfish standpoint it's like hey that's kind of cool that i had one of those but but but also it's like you know when i when you see that you know it's the real person at least and like while it might not matter that it's the real me it does matter clearly if it's the real valve or a real pharmaceutical company or a real politician what if someone i'm sure there's like a messaging system for like nuclear war has begun or something what if what if you pretend to be vladimir putin's verified account you know what missiles inbound missiles inbound does putin have an account in trump no but you get my point and these are just trolls right now just kind of making funny hahas now imagine a nation state with really hostile intentions and the willingness to engage in that sort of disruptive behavior
Starting point is 02:00:30 it's and i don't think anything big you could create a little bit of hysteria and someone could get hurt i'm sure like it's just silly give me much the product is the people on it right yeah they're selling it to the advertisers and the product is the content that the people are typing in they're with the content like they're with the product verified users are oftentimes what people are on twitter for they're they suck everyone else to the platform and he's ruining he's with that it's a very dangerous business strategy he had and well they they kind of dabbled for like 30 minutes of adding the second checkmark For like the legacy checkmarks and then it went away and then his like chief damage op like damaged rip What what's the word? I'm looking for a damage control damage control
Starting point is 02:01:15 Whoever I can't remember her name, but she's been like really trying to like fucking explain to people what's going on But it's changing hour to hour. It's just a crazy job Somebody so she you know She was trying to explain what was going on with the official thing and then they got rid of it and then somebody jumped in her mentions like did he really just kill that thing like 30 minutes later and she goes no no no no we're not doing what we're doing is we're shifting our priority right now we'll eventually get to it and then somebody replied to that with a bra and a quote retweet of Elon who had replied to somebody else saying
Starting point is 02:01:43 I just killed it it's's like she resigned today. She, along with like six or seven other senior people that were helping keep that ship afloat right now, all resigned at the same time. It'll be fun to see what happens. It will be. It's a lot of fun. Nobody trashes on Elon Musk that I know of more than me. I'm way near that top 1% of Musk haters. But I will acknowledge he's a very, very successful
Starting point is 02:02:08 businessman. He's the richest man on earth. He bought PayPal and turned it into something better. He invented Tesla, as far as I know. I might have that background wrong. He bought Tesla. He bought Tesla and turned it into something
Starting point is 02:02:22 better. Let's acknowledge that. Let's acknowledge that this guy does a lot of shit that's right. Not everything. I'd love a solar roof. I'd love a fucking tunnel or hyperloop or whatever. All the solar windows. That's the future, right? Jesus, that's cool.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Is there enough space? But anyway, but now he's buying Twitter, and I just feel like he's about to hit his losing streak. Tesla's share price is tied to twitter success and so if twitter is perceived to be a massive failure that impacts tesla stock which has been declining since november for no other reason besides just elon because how's traffic do you know on twitter like is it going up with all him it's all this or now it is up right now as they allege but it's it's up right now. It is up right now, as they allege.
Starting point is 02:03:06 But it's up right now. Who knows if that's a long-term thing. I've heard the user count dropped by a million and that traffic's higher than ever. Both can be true. But I stopped by Twitter today just to see what was going on because it's in the center of my news. Can I play devil's advocate here for a second again?
Starting point is 02:03:22 I'd love you to. Elon Musk is the Barnum and bailey's guy right he's the guy who puts on a fucking show and you go in you pay a nickel and you see a penny's worth of entertainment and you get hustled out the back he's been he's done that at all these businesses now he's got like a huge social media platform it's perfect for doing that i feel like man if he can make a controversy every week then traffic just keeps going up he's like you know what i think maybe this what here's what we're gonna do everyone gets a check mark women get pink check marks men get blue check marks i have no idea what color i should get and just just drop the mic on that one at midnight and
Starting point is 02:04:01 then the next day be like the next day like pop back on and see if anybody had any thoughts on that. Oh, I forgot. Of course trans people get the trans flag checkmark. Drop that at noon. Come back tomorrow. Just rinse and repeat. How are you going to monetize that though?
Starting point is 02:04:20 I mean the traffic going up is what companies would be interested in monetizing. The advertisers currently are not. You're getting new advertisers. Their inventory for 2023 has completely disappeared.
Starting point is 02:04:35 If he can successfully make traffic higher, that will not remain the case. That doesn't matter. What you're telling me is that their current advertisers that were with old Twitter aren't down for new Twitter. I watch a lot of UFC. It really the only sport that i pay attention to normally on the middle of the ring they got like monster they got modello um they've got like sexy vices and stuff right they went to abu dhabi about a month ago all that shit's gone they're advertising for vpns they're advertising for internet services
Starting point is 02:05:05 things that the audience out there wearing the uh the the i don't know what that chic wear um is down with that's gonna happen for twitter it's just gonna take a little while and and there's plenty of advertisers who are fine with whatever he's slinging no but he's losing that coke money he's losing that general electric money he's losing it's all green taylor has some subject matter expertise on this and i want to pick his brain it it's my theory that not all traffic is equally valued like there's a reason my pillow and gold coins are advertising on the controversial fox news shows it's because they can't land coca- and Tide. So they have to get these second tier advertisers. Am I right? And is Twitter headed towards, I don't know,
Starting point is 02:05:52 MyPillow like advertisers when they lose Coca-Cola and GM? I mean, like with Fox News, it's definitely unique because like the MyPillow guy is there because he knows that like it's a politically motivated item, right? Like people are buying that pillow, not because it's like pillow guy is there because he knows that like it's a politically motivated item right like people are buying that pillow not because it's like this is the greatest pillow they're buying it to be like this is a tacit support of the people i like and so for the my pillow guy like i guarantee that dude is getting a better roi on ads and during tucker than coca cola ever would because like coke as a whole doesn't need to pay for ad slots during tucker like coke has such brand recognition you just have pay for ad slots during tucker like coke has such brand recognition you just have to see the name and you already know everything baked in
Starting point is 02:06:29 as far as twitter's concerned like companies will follow traffic the core of the question was not all traffic is equally valued though yeah i do get that my pillow is a special case but you know when they the gold coins and bullshit like those are second tier advertisers see that like those channels like they don't see it that way it's the same cost for the 30 it's the same cost for the 60 like unless unless it's like gm or whatever being like we're gonna buy two years of ads for a lower rate or whatever like and they don't do that because you don't you don't make plans for advertising that way that way you were You work for an ad agency? I've worked with like, like placing ads, like building out ad plans for, for consumer package, good companies.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Like, so I know how that works. And like, it's all, it's all going to come down to, to the, if he can maintain traffic and if he can make a compelling case that it's like useful users there, which there's already a baseline set. People know that the users are a good people group to target because advertisers have existed there for years and years and years. And so a lot of people, and this happened with Fox in like the Trump era, a lot of ads pull back as a PR move so that they can say they pulled back and then they reintroduce those ads a couple
Starting point is 02:07:40 weeks later. That's like tremendously common because they want the good PR of going, oh, I don't want to be associated with Tucker right now. Let's get that on Newswire. And then two weeks later, they go, oh, Tucker has 5.1 million viewers. Back. We're back. So in the end, in the end, it'll come out in the wash. If he actually gets traffic up,
Starting point is 02:08:00 he will make money with Twitter. And all traffic is kind of equally valued and not equally like different users have different rate like like a user on reddit is borderline worthless do you think that there is some uh some some some some value that we can't see here because we're not elon musk is owning twitter does that make his other things more valuable does that make him more influential obviously not today because we're talking about this oh no everything's falling apart look at six months it makes him it makes
Starting point is 02:08:31 him so fucking powerful because you have to realize facebook twitter youtube google instagram that is the public square that's how people communicate and so having control of one of those is is huge like it's a big deal that like yeah if your principal goal if one of your principal goals is to roll back content moderation which to be clear like companies like facebook and twitter did not roll back content did not increase content moderation because it was the right thing to do they didn't do it because this is the moral thing to do jack was like a free speech absolutist fighting to keep Alex Jones on the platform for years. And it wasn't until 2015 and 2016 when ad revenue became a hugely important
Starting point is 02:09:13 part of their business model, that's when they started to fucking increase. It wasn't lefties and SJWs. It was big suits execs saying, we got to do this to attract money. This is the only way we're going to make this site profitable. And all that right now in the short term is threatened. And if it turns into a 4chan situation, how much ad revenue is 4chan pulling in every day? It won't turn into a 4chan situation.
Starting point is 02:09:35 It's too much of a critical mass. He's not starting a new thing. People have rituals with things they use. We solve these, We make bets. Okay. None of this floofy floofy. I think this and that.
Starting point is 02:09:48 I bet that Twitter makes profit in 2.5 years. I think it's worth. I think he's profitable in 2.5 years. They were already making a profit. Come back here in two and a half years. The only reason they didn't make a profit in 2021 was because of a massive lawsuit. But they brought in like one or $2 billion in ad revenue. Yeah, but I'm considering you Twitter.
Starting point is 02:10:07 Elon Twitter. I just know they've only had two profitable years out of the last 10 and the more recent one was 18. So 17 and 18, I think, were their profitable years. I think their next profitable year is two years from now. I just looked into this today. Oh, interesting. Okay. I'm interested
Starting point is 02:10:24 to watch. I don't know what's going to happen. He's a smart guy. I totally looked into this today. Oh, interesting. Okay. I'm interested to watch. I don't know what's going to happen. He's a smart guy. I totally buy into like he's doing all this shit now being intentionally incendiary, trying to get people onto the app. Is it possible that he overestimated his ability to run a social media app? His ability to run a social media app. Is it possible that he stepped outside of his wheelhouse way too far and is now over leveraged to the gills and is just in a really bad position? When you're at that tier of wealth, it's really just once he gets past this transitionary phase of everyone leaving and huge purges. Once he puts his own people in because he has his own people because he's a billionaire like it will quickly recover like
Starting point is 02:11:09 he's not he's not a foolish guy you can dislike him but he's a smart dude like what's gonna happen when the day inevitably comes when he has to do something that's gonna piss off this sort of like right i think it's pretty clear he's appealing. He's strict. He is really targeting like MAGA libertarian types, like free speech. Free speech people. And I like that about him. I want more free speech on the platform. The day is going to come when he's going to have to do something that pisses them off. And they're not going to, they're not, they're going to call him, this is my prediction.
Starting point is 02:11:39 They're going to call him a false prophet. They're going to call him a fucking Judas and they're going to fucking turn on him. He doesn't care though. And by that point, like it won't matter. They they won't stop looking they will continue to use the site they will continue to use the site like they'll so they'll get up in arms oh my goodness like how many didn't kathy griffin didn't she just last week was like i'm quitting twitter forever and then she got banned and that same day she like logged into her dead mom's account to be like get me my twitter back and it's like like come on like you're clearly like you know giving away that you want this a lot i
Starting point is 02:12:09 think that 2021 figure i think the only reason why they weren't profitable is because they had to pay 750 million dollars as a part of a lawsuit so i i apologize real quick we can jump back to twitter i didn't realize we were so far over two hours i was interested talking and chatting we're gonna hear from a couple of wonderful sponsors. Actually, it's a good time because I've got to go feed my pets, and then I'm going to go see Wakanda forever. All right. Enjoy. Have a good night, man. Good luck.
Starting point is 02:12:32 I hope you like it. I hope no one hurts you. We're not allowed to go tonight. It's too early. What in the world? I'll let you know how it goes. They said we go next week. It was really good talking to you guys. I had a good time. Thanks for inviting me on.
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Starting point is 02:16:12 No, I'm teasing on both regards. Last night, though, we all started running Riot Shields and we ran Claymores and RPGs, and we tried to be as annoying as possible. So that actually made the game fun for about an hour, I would say, where I wasn't actively upset. But generally, when we're playing, I can see everybody in Discord,
Starting point is 02:16:38 they're playing it now. I'm like, I'm getting the fuck out of here when this show's over. I am not playing that game tonight. It's so goddamn upsetting. Sorry. You're going to end up playing. 100%.
Starting point is 02:16:51 Yeah, I'll probably go play. I went on another sexcation with Jackie last weekend. Oh. Let me lay out my Sunday. You didn't hurt yourself, did you? On Sunday, we woke up had sex of course took a motorcycle a few hours away for the drug deal obviously in minecraft nice got back got matching couples tattoos and then fucked again how was your sunday let me see the tat
Starting point is 02:17:20 so i don't want to show you the actual tat on my chest one i'm worried i look fat and um um two it has like it's only five days old so there's like a like on top of it yeah something like that but i have a picture oh so you were the first one of us to get a tattoo turns out here's the thing when you get a tattoo not everyone's gonna like it that's the deal i look at somebody's flaming skull tattoo with a knife through the eye and a fucking so dumb that's all righteous tattoo and uh um anyway i see that and i'm like you're a fucking marshmallow on a harley why do you have such a badass tattoo? Are you Delta Force? Do you drop out of helicopters and kill people? Fucking
Starting point is 02:18:08 relax. But then someone else might see my tattoo and think it's gay. So there's that. It's a picture of a guy's asshole. Don't judge me. So there was like an evolution. This is like, it was the night before I was like, Jackie, we should get matching tattoos.
Starting point is 02:18:24 I wanted to make some bad decisions on our vacation that's the whole point and um she's like lol and i'm like no seriously we agreed not to do it you know i was like you know what i i guess we were gonna get them on our butts and uh um you're not supposed to like sit on it or rub it or even like cover it with tight clothing and i'm like what we're gonna get a tattoo then immediately have like a three-hour motorcycle ride and ruin it or infect it or who knows what so it would then it occurred to me like oh we could get rib cage tattoos like we should do that and um then the evolution of it i yeah i've heard it's one of the most painful places they'retoos aren't that fucking bad. Don't be a bitch.
Starting point is 02:19:06 So I've had different ideas for a tattoo. I had a paraglider in my head. I had a motorcycle. I used to want a YouTube gold play button. That was like an accomplishment I was kind of proud of. And most of the ideas I had, I'm like, you know, like a few years later, I'm like, I'm kind of glad I don't have
Starting point is 02:19:20 like the YouTube logo tattooed on me. For all I know, YouTube is going to change their logo. What I'm more committed to it than YouTube is themselves. Right. So, and then it was like, Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 02:19:32 Commitment kind of sticks. Jackie herself will get a couple's tattoo. So with that, I'm unveiling our matching avocado tattoos. No, it's not. It's not. It's a fucking avocado on my rib.
Starting point is 02:19:48 I don't want to see it now. I'm afraid I'll laugh at it. One has the pit and one has the receptor for the pit. Who has the pit? I've got the pit. It's the penis. It's the boy side. It's the boy side.
Starting point is 02:20:02 Oh, that's so cute. All right, good. Oh, it's so cute. side oh that's so cute alright great oh that's so cute oh that's so cute alright alright I completely changed my mind so when you said avocado for some reason I thought like a realistic avocado
Starting point is 02:20:16 this is cute oh great tattoo oh thank you I'm glad that you supported it that's very sweet I'm so glad you didn me. That's very sweet. And I don't know... I'm so glad you didn't make the pit your belly buttons. Oh, that would have been funny.
Starting point is 02:20:32 I don't know. I'm trying not to go too head. It's hot to me. When I pull her shirt off and there's the fucking... She's tatted up. It's working for me. You're like one of those celebrities that tattoos his name on the women now you've got a taste for it now you need more i mean the funniest part of that
Starting point is 02:20:51 is lifting up jackie's shirt and seeing an avocado and being like oh man i'm i'm bricked up i was honestly when you said avocado i was so scared scared. I was like, God, Woody's one of my friends. I don't want to do anything to him. I was so glad it was something like cutesy like that. Yeah, that's a great tattoo. It's so much better than what I had imagined when you said avocado. Zach, can you pull it up again? I want Woody to explain the placement.
Starting point is 02:21:23 And also, I want to hear about the pain also I want to hear about the pain. I want to hear on the ribs. You said it wasn't even bad, right? No, no. So the ribs are supposed to be like one of the most painful places. Places that don't have much depth to them. The top of your foot, your elbow. Apparently they don't take the ink as well.
Starting point is 02:21:40 If I am, I'm not an expert on this. So they really have to like carve. I read on the internet it feels like wet fire that's not what i thought to me it was just um like the color which is like a broader like a bunch of needles at once felt like scratching yeah and the anything that's black there's like defined lines that sort of like they outline it first and color it in later uh the black felt like cutting you know when she goes deep and yeah sometimes she wouldn't go that deep and you'd think like oh this doesn't hurt so much but i learned no bitch it's coming around if she goes really deep she'll just it worked if it but let me do. If it's an eight out of 10 pain, then you're done.
Starting point is 02:22:25 It's finished. If it's a five out of 10 pain, I don't think that took. So she goes around the exact same line again and makes it a 10 out of 10. Yeah. You'd almost rather just have her go nice and deep the first time all the time, but whatever. The reason they do that, maybe it makes it look better. Yeah. Mine's more on the side of my my rib and jackie's is a
Starting point is 02:22:46 little more on her front and uh that makes sense i i think the side is a little more manly and in the front like she has there are women's dresses and stuff that sort of cut and show the side and one of the reasons we chose that spot is we can choose not to have a tattoo if you want like if you have a sleeve maybe if you're in long sleeve shirt, you can hide it like for a job interview, but mostly you have a tattoo. If it's on your neck, you have a tattoo all the time.
Starting point is 02:23:14 If it's on like a guy's deltoid, he can choose like when he has it and when he doesn't. But for women, so many shirts are the collarbone. She did. I gave her the choice. And I was like, do you want to go first?
Starting point is 02:23:26 It was kind of me driving it. And I felt like it was my obligation to like, let it, like, do you want to get it over with, or do you want to, you know, let me go first.
Starting point is 02:23:37 Yeah. And she chose to get it over with. So she, she was super stoic. She was like, didn't, didn't fuss, didn't move, didn't flinch. She set the bar so high.
Starting point is 02:23:50 I was like, I'm not sure. I'm as tough as she is. This is ridiculous. She had no trouble with it whatsoever. But yeah, those are our matching couples tattoos. And I've got the pit. I love it. It's very cute.
Starting point is 02:24:03 Kyle, do you want to get the same ones the two of you i don't uh yeah yeah can i have the pit though i knew this would be an issue how about how about how about this no no i got it i got it neither one of us the pit's missing and we're both looking for for our pit okay and someday someday just as long as it's not like i don't want to have just the empty pit hole and like everyone know that you're pit fucking me no no no we both have empty holes what if your pit has fallen to the ground and the guy looks very concerned or like kyle's avocado is trying to pick up its pit off of the shower floor to pick up its pit off of the shower floor.
Starting point is 02:24:46 In my pits. Very suggestive. I see where you're going with this. I'm down for that. How much do you think Woody would hate it if we actually did that? If we copied this? I wouldn't hate it at all. He would laugh at us.
Starting point is 02:25:03 Pranks on you, bro. That's for life. That night, I was like, Jack, you can have avocado with you forever. But I think that it's fairly normal to have second thoughts in the short term
Starting point is 02:25:20 and then grow to like it. I'm also pretty prepared for the fact that not everyone's going to like it. Smart people. I have a theory that smart people, certainly with their first tattoo, really put a lot of thought into it because they think more about the gravity of this decision. Jeremy, on the other hand, a buffoon,
Starting point is 02:25:38 was like, yeah, sure, I'll get an FPS Russia tattoo on my back that's misspelled. Sure, Kyle, you can give it to me. It wasn't even a thought. I used the coloring in part. I colored in his fucking tattoo. Did it look good? Yeah, better than you'd think.
Starting point is 02:26:00 I would say not as nice as Woodyody's because it's got some like like cool shading like and and if i remember correctly his was all like kind of monotone but but like i was the other the tattoo artist did the outline of everything and then i was doing the color just like coloring it in and uh i don't know it was it was really satisfying to do doesn't it take hours to like no i got all right so something big that you're trying to do well, I'm sure. But I was coloring in a geometric thing, so
Starting point is 02:26:31 like 10-20 minutes or something? Not long at all. Quick. Plus, it's a tattoo like this. Ours took an hour each. Maybe a little bit more. Maybe mine was a little slower. And the joke we make is that you know we had 400 and no adult supervision and that's just what happens yeah but uh it was kind of like
Starting point is 02:26:51 years and years in the making sure that's really fun glad you guys had a good time with that did was there any moment as you were getting it that you were like oh like yeah yeah as as we're getting it afterwards like like we're filling out like this form and there's like all these things that could go wrong. And it's like, you know, we could just back out now. We can just leave. Neither of us have hepatitis. Yeah. Like the whole, the whole way through the word, I'm not one to not have second thoughts you know i can look at my motorcycle purchases where i do like i'm one of those people that over researches and puts shocks a hundred hours of like videos and reading and what into into getting it and then afterwards
Starting point is 02:27:40 another 50 just to like see if i made any mistakes in my purchase i want to get roasted i'm a i'm a purchaser like thinker and uh that happened with the tattoo too and yeah because you're going to come on here and you're going to be like hey i bought this new uh outboard motor for my boat and there's gonna be some guy out there that like works for polaris and he's gonna be like oh what a fucking chump you know like he's gonna listen going to listen. Speaking of that, all right. So I saw Ukraine is doing this thing where they have these naval drones and that might sound advanced to you.
Starting point is 02:28:13 I imagined like a torpedo that went like silently on the, maybe on the bottom even like, and it was like, like somebody's like remote controlling a torpedo. No, no, no. They took a jet ski even like like and it was like like somebody's like remote controlling a torpedo no no they took a jet ski and and they like put like uh this plastic fiberglass hull around it and it obviously
Starting point is 02:28:34 can be very low to the surface because it's a drone there's no room for people or anything we just need a capable watercraft that's speedy maneuverable and has a mounted thermal cam and on the front we've got impact fuses wired to explosives so they send like eight of these at a time that's it see the see the fuses on the front that hits a russian boat and that's your thermal cam up uh in the center and i don't know what the fuck that is in the back that's not a joke of a weapon like that they damaged a couple of naval vessels in the footage you can see this thing's approach and they are giving it hell with machine guns.
Starting point is 02:29:08 There's like impacts all around it. Splash, splash, splash, splash. And it's just... It's like maneuvering around and it looked like it tried to hit like a Russian tugboat or some shit. A tugboat? I know, right?
Starting point is 02:29:23 What are these things, free? Shouldn't you be sending it at the real thing they are essentially free because like even the best like like like jet ski like a brand new one is what like 20 grand or something like the creme de la creme that's like right i don't know right so so all you need is like the motor anyway and they're strapping all that other and that's just fiberglass and plastic and shit you can like stamp that shit out a million bigger the explosion you're right the high-end one is 20 grand isn't enough to like destroy a whole the whole boat you've only got a punch a big hole in it so it's got to go back to get repairs right now it's out of the thing now it's not shooting its missiles they need to dry dock it and do it like it's a
Starting point is 02:30:01 problem for them it's expensive you know probably logistical nightmare to deal with yeah so they sent eight at a time and i think two got through and did serious damage to some russian boats and the thing you said about the tugboat like so i don't know much about maybe but um i'm making it up maybe that's important i remember early in the war they were like this is a fuel tanker if you take one of these, you're essentially taking out a tank. It's uncovered. They're easy to hit. But tanks don't work without diesel. And if you take this out, they don't have it.
Starting point is 02:30:34 And sure enough, they took those things out by the score. And then the farmers are just taking tanks with tractors, you know, whole working tanks that now fight for Ukraine. Maybe taking out a tugboat is a real logistical problem it could be yeah I didn't think of it I don't know that they were I didn't understand the footage I was watching again but it looked to me that that's what they're trying to do and that's what it looked like it looked like a small craft and they were like they were trying to broadside it and the other craft was like going this way and they just barely missed the back of it and like it keeps. But no, those things are neat.
Starting point is 02:31:06 But when I heard that Zelensky wanted, he's like, oh, we need money. We want to buy some more of these neighbors. You want more? More? Good. When's it going to be fucking enough? $100 billion?
Starting point is 02:31:27 That's one thing. I hope that the lack of red wave here um keeps the money flowing to ukraine because every day i get more and more good footage of russians getting killed and it's great stuff i saw one guy like you know the the mortar lands in the hole with him. I know where you're going. And it doesn't go off at first. And then it goes off. And I saw a chunk of him explode off. And I think it looked like it was mostly coat because I'm sure he was wearing a thick, wintry, downy thing. And like a chunk of that just went like blew off of him.
Starting point is 02:32:02 And I was like, was there meat attached to that? Is that his shoulder? I don't know what that. And he's's just smoky and he's crawling now going i don't know why i had a sound effect he's over there i know he was though that's the noise dude but i saw the opposite so like you it drops and it lands right next to the guy and he's like sleeping sort of in what is the infant fetal fetal position thank you and and it lands right next to him and he seems to be like
Starting point is 02:32:32 unfazed by it he grabs the unexploded grenade and he throws it and he resumes he goes back to his fetal position like like you're trying to interrupt my nap but no and then they drop a second one on him and he does it again and they seem to be like well fuck it this guy's not he's hard to kill we'll find
Starting point is 02:32:52 he's got that perk that resets the fuse when you pick up the grenade yeah you don't want to fuck with him you're just wasting your kill streaks yeah um yeah i saw a russian guy you don't want to fuck with him. You're just wasting your kill streaks. Yeah, I saw a Russian guy. I don't know. Oh, it was a grenade launcher. Maybe like one that's an underbarrel grenade launcher. And he shoots one, he shoots another. And then the third one blows up in his hand and kills him. No, we debunked that a little bit.
Starting point is 02:33:19 Oh, did you see the footage? Do you think you saw the same one? It's a pump action grenade launcher. And as you said, he's sort of like pop firing it. They're in a blown out structure. On further review, if you go frame by frame, it looks to me like he impacted the inside of the structure in front of him. Like the grade went through the doorway.
Starting point is 02:33:36 And then maybe there's a wall in the way or the edge of the window. I don't know. I'm going to have to re-bunk this. I think it's still bunked. I am an expert on these Russian snuff films that are just on YouTube now for some reason. Isn't it wild how censorship works? You can go watch a dozen Russians die on YouTube right now and they'll be like,
Starting point is 02:34:07 could you confirm your birthday so we can serve you an ad first? And I'll be like, yes, I can. Yes, I can. And I actually pay for YouTube premium and it's one of my favorite paid services. It pays whenever I'm on some regular persons like YouTube on their TV.
Starting point is 02:34:19 Cause I watch it on TVs a lot. Um, I'm like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. What is this? Hang on.
Starting point is 02:34:23 Let me sign in and like connect my phone and like, let's get on the good shit. You don't have to pay. I already did, whoa, whoa, whoa, what is this? Hang on. Let me sign in and connect my phone and let's get on the good shit. You don't have to pay. I already did it. Let's go because I can't deal with this. It's so much better on premium. I spend more time on YouTube than any other website by orders of magnitude. Nothing else comes close. I got YouTube premium years
Starting point is 02:34:39 ago because there was a time when I produced the show and we would watch videos together. I didn't want my ad. It seemed unprofessional to have an ad like during pka and stuff so i bought the ad free experience and i haven't stopped we don't watch our videos anymore but god youtube has a lot of ads but not me it's it's one of the better values and yeah i saw a reddit thread on it and a lot of people said the youtube music is great. It's their favorite. I don't use it at all. I don't use it at all. I just search for music videos, I guess.
Starting point is 02:35:08 I like the music videos a lot. I grew up when MTV still made music videos a little bit. So I really like some of those old school music videos, and so I watch them. Where were we before this? You're talking about YouTube censorship how you can like yeah like like but people can't say you can see some gruesome shit with like as long as you're 18 now i guess as long as you tell them you're 18 now it's they're just showing these russians dead and i'm thinking like it's a good thing they don't have internet over there or they'd be
Starting point is 02:35:41 they'd feel real bad about all their guys being dead and stuff i saw them go to a rural russian village okay and i grew up in the south of the united states america okay it's rural around here my daddy grew up real poor his granddaddy was a bootlegger who died of cirrhosis of the liver okay abusive alcoholics and shit he lived what he preached we're poor folk down here okay we don't have much at least going back a generation that was 100 the truth um but these people were drawing water from a well and the woman was spinning a log to accomplish it and when the man started walking the water back no the woman walked the water back with a yoke a yoke over her shoulder if you don't know what a yoke is it's like a buffalo it's not what a yoke is, it's not the thing in an egg, but it's spelled the same.
Starting point is 02:36:26 Is it? No, it's Y-O-K-E, isn't it? Yeah, and water buckets on either end. And he's like, don't spill the water. And they're like, we don't need these fancy things. And they're asking these people about Ukraine. So you can imagine what their take is. There's Satanists, and they're
Starting point is 02:36:42 fighting the devil over there. We're in a nuclear war with america like already the nuclear weapons are being used yes this is how they push us back but soon the americans will die like they believe they're completely uh out of it well they probably don't really have any access to outside it was like north korea if they if they don't uh if they're carrying water buckets around then that rural rural Russian has no idea what's going on. Do you at least feel a little bit jealous of them? No.
Starting point is 02:37:10 I was going to say I feel sorry for them, but not jealous. Think about how happy they are, though, in their life. They're content. They're content. Maybe. I didn't see the video. Maybe the same way the Amish are more content. Amish people have a higher rate of happiness and contentment than like people who have all of the, yeah, like less depression than people who have access to infinite entertainment all the time.
Starting point is 02:37:32 So is that what you mean? Like the simple. I think the three of us are always like striving for like, oh, I could find anything that's more entertaining or more fun or, or maybe, maybe this would be cooler. Those people, they're like, we got it done. Here we are. I got the good bucket. It doesn't leak. They're like literally too tired on the Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Starting point is 02:37:51 They're never going to get to self-actualization. They're like, food here. Take care of. Wonderful day. Like, that's like probably, you know, it's got to be pretty well. I'm going to spoil myself with a warm water bath. No, that was bizarre. I didn't realize that there were places that poor.
Starting point is 02:38:11 I always thought of Russia as a peer. Russia has a ton of super rural people. Hollywood brainwashes this. Whatever Hollywood says, it becomes your reality. Growing up, the Russians were the bad guys behind everything. In reality, they're the bad guys behind everything if you believe america's
Starting point is 02:38:28 the good guy right they're the people who are it's always the bad guy always has an ak how often is a bad guy having m16 and i'm talking about in real life if you think of america's the good guy like the ak is the gun of the bad guy and uh and in every movie you had ivan dragoff going against rocky balboa. Then Forrester goes back to Vietnam to try to get us a little respect back. And who's there? Fucking Russians again. Every turn, the Russians were the bad guys, and they were our peers.
Starting point is 02:38:57 They weren't like some second-rate bad guy to be just bullied over. It was like, oh, the russians are involved if anything it shows it shows some laziness because they when are we going to pivot to china being the bad guys oh when they stop watching our movies yeah true when they stop being our primary investors um cal you told a story but i don't remember where the guy was in the u.s army i think he fired javelins and he learned that the russians had lasers that would like blind them yeah yeah they were told on pka was that like a hangout or i don't remember where i told it but you know it's from a youtube video where this it was a guy who
Starting point is 02:39:36 had like served and he was they were told like you know the like their javelin operators and like look the russian tanks they have this system you'd lock on to them with a javelin they can like lock on to you with a high-powered laser and literally blind the operator so we and we invested in a technology to prevent a technology that they never could have even deviators no no they like they like came up but here's my favorite part of the story they didn't make it so that you're not blind they made it so the javelin will work anyway yeah it seems like you you just take care of both like at the same time either or type scenario taylor it was and and now that we watch these guys we're like they're so far from having inept lasers blinding us and look here's the thing here's are they losing more ground i haven't heard anything
Starting point is 02:40:30 about it they're drawing told me last week so so the real talk right now is whether or not the fact that they just pulled out of a the largest city they were holding and like one of the earliest cities they took completely and they've announced the withdrawal the the question is is this some sort of a trap is this a strategic withdrawal so that we rush in and then they like is the city set to blow like what's the situation here they don't know so that's the big what's going on moment right now kirsten yeah i mean i think it's up to interpretation uh you know it's a ukrainian city so i learn a lot by reading so i mispronounce everything and uh yeah so it like i said it's one of the principal cities it's one of the jewels it has an important role in restocking and supplying the rest of their troops and they seem to be
Starting point is 02:41:15 giving it up without a fight in ukraine i think it's going to say that you know they announced that they're leaving but our intelligence says they're still there we're gonna go with our intelligence and not their media yeah i don't know um i'll tell you what it looks like to me everything i take in my information diet it's that the russians were losing are losing and are continuing to lose and and it seems like if it was like a simple issue if it was like, sometimes we're playing COD. I'll bring it back to that a little bit. It's like, whoa, these guys we're playing are good. Now we're playing
Starting point is 02:41:52 a good team. Everybody get your shit together. Come on. Then we get our shit together. Stop working on your challenges. Bring out your good guns. Yeah. The Russians have had time seemingly to do that by now. They went, oh, guys oh guys come on get out your good classes focus on the objective like we had that pep talk at least once or twice because
Starting point is 02:42:11 we've had multiple bosses get fired quote unquote um already it says like oh you can't get the job done you're out you can't get job they're under like the third guy or something to like run the whole war and i think putin is technically taking like a full hand in it now and he's making broader bigger decisions which can only lead to more defeat if you think about it because there's no way that he's some he just happens to be a military genius as well as a dictator those like you did those two things are never like like hand in hand why would they be the american American system of having a civilian lead but military guys handling the broad direction
Starting point is 02:42:50 is the right one. Of course. You don't get a Hitler every day. I don't know. We'll see. I think the biggest risk to Ukraine, and maybe this is my bias and diet, Republicans taking the House.
Starting point is 02:43:08 They're not interested in funding Ukraine. And they don't view Russia as the enemy in the same way that you and I do. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. I've seen that. I mean, I am definitely... We have sent so much fucking money.
Starting point is 02:43:24 We have sent so many supplies. I understand it's a way to geopolitically weaken an opponent on a global scale. I get it. But like we've got like so much shit wrong going on here in this country. Like why can't we prioritize ourselves? Didn't we cut the deficit down by like a huge margin this last session? Yeah. But I think we're okay. Didn't we cut the deficit down by a huge margin this last session? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:46 I think we're okay. I think we can afford to prop up. This is huge. This is a really big geopolitical thing because I know I'm interrupting you here, but let me give you my – I'll be quick. You're fine. We have fought wars over things like Vietnam and Korea, those far-flung places. We're on Russia's doorstep with this one. places. We're on Russia's doorstep with this one. It hasn't been like this since the Cuban
Starting point is 02:44:06 Missile Crisis when they had one of their ponds right next to our fucking queen. And it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're 90 miles away. That's where we are. We're touching them now with our proxy war. This is important that we squeeze them hard. This is great.
Starting point is 02:44:22 We could get rid of Putin and get a real person in there who's like a who could change the country and bring them into the first world they could be an ally we i don't i don't as an ally who here has a problem all those other countries we go to war with and then this always works out well no but i do see cal's point yeah i see taylor's credit why can't we prioritize american people in american problems like it's our tax dollars like people need to be taken care of we have people dying from fucking paying 200 a week for insulin and but we have hundreds of billions
Starting point is 02:44:55 for wars at any time any time you know like to use a silly example for trump's wall thing what was that like 13 billion? Oh, Oh, it's the most. And now it's just, you send money over. Not that the wall was like a, you know, going to change the world or anything.
Starting point is 02:45:12 I'm just saying like total amounts of money. They don't want to spend it here. They don't want to spend it to make healthcare more affordable for people. They don't want to make it to fight the opioid crisis, which kills millions of Americans over the past couple of decades. Like we have huge problems here and seeing like us just continue to be the world
Starting point is 02:45:29 like police and I think it's important is I think it's good it's like enough I think Taylor's undervaluing the importance of Kyle and I snuff film diet that is true China's running out their road and bridge program right and pumping
Starting point is 02:45:46 like a trillion and a half two trillion dollars across the world and that's all about undermining our geopolitical influence so i think we need to make a move here and and and like squeeze rush a little bit and increase our geopolitical influence a little bit let's take look let's take advantage of this it's very important i'm i wish i wish I were president. I'd make broader strokes here. We'd be in Moscow by next week. You'd be liquidating Americans' property to send that money over there. A tenth of their nuclear stockpile doesn't even work. We've mentioned that Biden's not inspiring.
Starting point is 02:46:19 I'm guessing. I agree. I'm not so fucking liberal that I'm going to try to argue Biden's inspiring but I do feel like I like his moves most of them I like the way he's handling Ukraine they're slow but steady I like what he did with the infrastructure bill
Starting point is 02:46:36 I didn't love the college one but by and large I liked the executive order on marijuana legalization and getting people out of jails I don't think it really helped anybody I think it may liked the executive order on marijuana legalization and getting people out of jails. I don't think it really like helped. It didn't do anything, but it was a PR.
Starting point is 02:46:49 I mean, I think it may have nixed one of my felonies, but I haven't even bothered to look, you know, I don't think so. I know. I think so. And it's more than anyone else has taken since Obama. That's a fair point.
Starting point is 02:47:01 You're right. So I don't find a Biden. I're right. I don't find Biden inspiring, but I do like a lot of his moves. Nobody finds him inspiring. I think it's a great thing for us to continue to fund this war. Like I said, we cut the deficit in half during the pandemic. This is pennies in the bucket it's
Starting point is 02:47:25 being it's paying dividends every dollar that goes over there is it is just really paying dividends because it's those russians are are bleeding they're bleeding blood this time not it's not like it's not material and money it's not paying dividends to like common americans i think it will i think it will and and the and the this is one of those generational things where I think I think we're on the verge of something as important as like the fall of the Soviet Union. I think we're looking at another event akin to that potentially if Putin goes under here. Like it could it could bring Russia into the first world, like into the economies of the first world more than it has been. They won't be gonna happen suddenly i think putin will go from being in charge to not in charge in like a week and a half it could yeah it seems like usually things like that go very quickly in that country they have
Starting point is 02:48:15 they have traditionally gone very quickly have you seen the comedy uh is it the death of stalin it's something like that i think i've heard of that it's pretty good you'd like it it's it's um i watched a couple years ago it's really good it's got ste it. I watched it a couple years ago. It's really good. It's got Steve Buscemi and a bunch of other people in it. I don't know what's going to happen, but I really hope the Republicans don't cut off their funding. I think that the war
Starting point is 02:48:36 is a good thing. I think it's a very righteous war, and they should fight the Russians until they leave. We should send them as much stuff as we can without starting a world war. I don't want to fight a world war, and I don't want to start one. I don't want to cross any of Russia's red lines, which
Starting point is 02:48:51 they've kind of established already. But we should keep sending them shit as much as they need. If nothing else, for the Reddit. You know? My Reddit's improved dramatically. Combat footage! Our combat footage! Like, let's go! I don't want to watch people die. I don't
Starting point is 02:49:07 like that. Like, I don't really enjoy that anymore. You're missing out on all the data. You're still a young man. One day you will. One day when I'm more jaded, I'll enjoy that. I mean, like, I used, I mean, like, early internet, I'd see somebody get beheaded and be like, whatever. And then, like,
Starting point is 02:49:23 as more, usually it seems like you get more jaded. Now it's like I watch a video of someone getting the shit kicked out of them and I hear their head thunk and I have to tell myself, he was a rapist. Because it's like, if that was just a guy going to the bank, I just watched a murder. You know what I mean? People's fragility is inconsistent isn't it like i have
Starting point is 02:49:47 seen people in motorcycle wrecks that get up and they're like actually i'm not hurt at all i'm fine and then you see other guys it didn't look like much of an accident or they just fell and hit their head on the ice or something and and they're done those like the. The one you see in movies and TV shows all the time, when the lady's like, ah! They're pulling a bag, and someone lets go of the bag, and she hits her head on the corner of the coffee table, and it's like, clunk! Oh, shit!
Starting point is 02:50:14 You're dead? Oh, no! No one's going to believe that this was a minor dispute over a handbag. What do we do now? That's like a murder cover-up movie starts, or a weekend at Bernie's. Fuck! A more macabre weekend at Bernie's.
Starting point is 02:50:25 I believe Bernie died of natural causes in the films, right? He wasn't killed by those two and then paraded around in a macabre viewing of his body. Have you watched any new movies or TV shows? I'm always looking for something new.
Starting point is 02:50:41 I've been watching Breaking Bad again. I just started that this past week i'm on house of the dragon is that what it's called yeah that's what it's close maybe just house of dragon even something like that yeah okay there's definitely a the in there tell me what's going on dragon tell me what's happening so i finished episode three and just recently this is a little bit spoiler anyone listening um is the guy's name who's the prince which starts with d damon damon has just because the king said that he was going to help damon with the crab lord uh damon was like fuck it you think i need help and he got shit done on
Starting point is 02:51:22 his own he went in there with his sword into the cave and wrecked the crab lord shit drug the upper half is his body out anyway with his intestines dragging along the way cut him in half like this problem is over yeah that's yeah that was a great episode like um you know it really didn't make the crab feeder seem like as big of a problem and as what they made him in those first two episodes. Like he casually it showed you like like where Damon showed you the power difference for sure. I guess. Yeah. Like it's the mindset, right? Like they're like they're like, hey, Damon, so you're not getting your job done.
Starting point is 02:51:59 You want to come and let me come help you out over there. And he's like, oh, I cannot be seen. It's so weak that I need assistance. Let me just go do this myself. And he like one-man armies it in there. And it was fun how he did it. One man plus dragon. Well, there was a dragon there at the end. There always is.
Starting point is 02:52:17 There always is. He didn't do as much as the dragon. Let me say this. I think he should try to. That is true. The dragon carried the weight. I highly recommend you try to speedrun. Dude, honestly, I could have won that fight.
Starting point is 02:52:30 Just throw me on the back of that dragon. I would have used the dragon to blow in the cave. I'd be like, I will powerfully now request you to do what you do. There's this scene in Game of Thrones where I think Sansa asked Dany, like, what do dragons eat? And she goes, anything they choose to. And it's like, yeah, yeah, that's what dragons eat, anything they want.
Starting point is 02:52:52 Pretty much. Yeah, I highly recommend you try to get a little bit deeper in. The little girl, it's aged out, and she's just gone one episode. And there's a new lady there, a blonde lady. And you're like, oh, who are you you and she introduces herself very well in that episode she starts off with a with a real bang it's a bloody episode and you get to know uh that you were leading on like she was gonna fuck you're like she introduces herself well and i'm like yeah you're close you're close and um and uh this this is a show that has like three or four gruesome birthing scenes, by the way.
Starting point is 02:53:30 At least. I've seen one. It wasn't super gruesome. You've got a couple more coming. What do you mean it wasn't gruesome? They held her down and performed a forcible C-section and she died. I feel like you're kink shaming. Right.
Starting point is 02:53:41 I feel like, ah, it wasn't so brutal. She screamed, no! No! Yeah right that was like i wasn't so brutal she screamed no no and they're like that was pretty fucked up that was the most brutal birthing scene i've ever seen here all right not the worst i i did watch that there's another anyway what's now you're right it was pretty you've seen um oh there's a there's a movie where um i what's it called the serbian film um google you just read through that wikipedia it's just awful oh i think you told me about this movie and then i shouldn't watch it yeah you should really avoid it's upsetting i don't want very upsetting yeah very upsetting this is something totally different oh good i was
Starting point is 02:54:22 gonna say house of dragons is very strong uh it gets better as it goes and that finale was uh was very very good i think matt smith has had a heavy hand in the direction of the show and a few key little moments i've heard um the final scene apparently he had a lot of influence he's like no it should go like this this that and then this and they and they did apparently what he wanted matt smith is yeah yeah the guy's playing damon targaryen the who for me is like my guy like he's the one when he's on screen i'm like oh this is my jamie lannister to respond to that i'm surprised they could like i'm surprised they could call an audible in the production of that because this is a show that i assume has heavy cgi influence right I imagine half the time they're filming this thing, there's real pavers on the ground. And every wall, every sky, everything is green screen.
Starting point is 02:55:14 This scene in particular happened to be two characters in front of a fireplace. So you can see that's the only way. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Because I'm thinking like, oh, everything's planned in this shit to the last detail. I don't think that's a spoiler. That's how season one ends. Two characters in front of a fireplace. I would say not a spoiler, no.
Starting point is 02:55:32 Two people survive. I guess maybe in that case they could call more of an audible than they could. The Hobbit? Dude, we can't change this. It has to go this way. They changed some hobbits. But yeah, the finale of the show,
Starting point is 02:55:49 some wild stuff happens. There's been a lot of memes for the show, and it's been fun. I wanted to get through it because I wanted to enjoy the memes, and there's a lot of funny ones. There's one character who's supposed to be 16, so they use that meme from Bad Boys 2, where he's like, how old are you?
Starting point is 02:56:04 And he's like, 15. you he's like you look 25 who's supposed to be 16 have i met him yet um no i i shouldn't even go into it because i mean okay do you know that that has this character gotten married to that character and had children yet because like that happens in like a three episode span characters are betrothed married have children their children grow up and become characters like that happens bada bing bada boom and then you're
Starting point is 02:56:34 like oh okay because they really want to set the stage for the dragon I'm down with this and you know it's early but I'm to me I'm like tell me about the universe I wouldn't mind knowing what happens post Jon Snow and such. Well, we're getting that. The Kit Harington show.
Starting point is 02:56:50 Yeah, the Kit Harington show. The Jon Snow show. You're right. I guess I forgot about it. That's supposed to be first quarter next year, right around the corner. I just linked you, by the way. I wish we could show trailers on here. It's the Warhammer 40. Watch that later. It's really good. I opened it another tab it's on my new list it's good um no i uh
Starting point is 02:57:11 rewind me like three seconds what were we talking about before i talked about the trailer uh i think it might have been the ending that they audibled oh yeah the the no just uh just really house of dragons in general um real strong i i was pleasantly surprised i didn't want to give them the time the time of day i think i may have even said i wouldn't watch it but uh but but unlock and like that and like that amazon show i'm glad that i uh have a new time i like it alex jones lost another lawsuit 473 million more now this man is down a staggering 1.44 billion dollars at this point that is absurd it was absurd at 900 million oh it's ridiculous another 400 million like i don't hate it i oh it's it's ridiculous johnson and johnson got
Starting point is 02:58:07 fined less for being like yeah there's been arsenic in the baby powder since the 50s fuck you like like huge corporations get fined less for things that actively kill people like this is like that amount of money is just it doesn't make any sense in this so i hear you and i have a hard time justifying the amount of money, but they said the record clearly supports the plaintiff's argument that the defendant's conduct was defendant's conduct was intentional and malicious and certain to cause harm by virtue of their infrastructure, ability to spread content and massive audience,
Starting point is 02:58:41 including the info warriors. His, content and massive audience including the info warriors um his the court recognizes the intentional malicious and heinous conduct of his and it's true he sent his fans after the parents of dead children yeah it's fucked up and you can you can absolutely see that and be like yeah that's fucked up that's that's a shitty thing to do like kind of makes you kind of makes you a bad person but uh i can tell you that's not 1.45 billion dollars because we also have anchor points for what finds don't exaggerate it's 1.44 billion you gotta make me i mean it's a straw man argument you're making it this is such a straw man yeah like that that part is like off-putting where like, wait, 1.5 billion.
Starting point is 02:59:25 Like what? How possibly did you arrive at this? Like I mean, clearly it's just like part of it is how many victims there are. Like it's like, oh, you get 20 million. You get there are class actions with 100,000 people that don't get 1.5 billion. It is hard to defend 1.44 billion dollars i don't know that i'm going to succeed at it maybe i'll just say look it makes me a little giddy yeah a political opponent of mine is being destroyed
Starting point is 02:59:58 no no no no if it was um i shocked mitch mcconnell or something i wouldn't feel the same way he just has different political priorities than me um but this guy is attacking the parents of dead children in a school shooting with lies that he knows are lies that were malicious intentional lies so did he and uh or did he end up saying like yeah i knew it was bullshit when i was saying it or did he prove that he knew it was bullshit when he said it so there's there's like there's no wiggle room in this he absolutely intentionally told lies as part of his business model and uh does it matter if he got fined a quarter billion or a billion and a half in either case that's all of it yeah yeah like it definitely does like like 1.5 billion is like what like fucking
Starting point is 03:00:54 pfizer pays when they get caught lying about studies like that's what like here's my argument it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if you sue me 250250 million or $1.5 billion. In either case, it's more than you'll ever get. I understand. But by that point, why not find him $100 billion? That's what I'm saying. That kind of supports my argument. The amount stopped being important after, I don't know, $150 million.
Starting point is 03:01:20 Shouldn't the amount be important, though? If it's just a neat... shouldn't the amount be important though like if it's just like a neat like so for like you could just say like oh this person said something i didn't like and he sent hate like imagine somebody who doesn't do something as reprehensible as alex jones like some other like lesser tier guy it's not that amounts are never just say 200 million after a certain amount it stops being important it just becomes everything he'll ever earn yeah it's everything. It's to like,
Starting point is 03:01:47 just like, it's to destroy him as a guy and like his, his like, uh, info wars empire and everything. But like, yeah, you can, you can recognize he did some fucked up shit in encouraging that harassment of
Starting point is 03:01:57 those parents. And, you know, by extension, the kids themselves and like the kids still at the school, obviously. And like, but also be like 1.5 billion like 1.44
Starting point is 03:02:06 billion like come on like that's that is absurd that that doesn't that there's a disconnect there it doesn't make sense to me yeah i'm not as hung up on the amount as you are because in either case it's more than he'll ever pay so yeah does it matter how much more it is than it ever pays like if they raised it to 100 billion it would make no difference yeah i mean i guess the number amount is just so staggering that it like causes pause like wait what like with a b like yeah like good god all right did you guys see this uh it's this saudi line city they're gonna Yes. I was talking about that the other day. What is the logic?
Starting point is 03:02:47 I don't think I get it. I'm calling it now. This is another one of those Middle East projects that look stupid in retrospect. Remember the one, it might have been Abu Dhabi, building all these islands that were in the shape of a leaf of some sort.
Starting point is 03:03:04 I forget. I mean, this is about 80%, right? But if you look at it now, they're all eroded, and they gave up on the project, and the thing didn't go anywhere. That's where this is headed. So what this is, this is the petrostates investing in their infrastructure and their tourism draw for a post-oil future. They don't want to go from riches to rags in the next two generations.
Starting point is 03:03:28 So they're trying to build these crazy things, these cities that people will want to visit. And this is supposed to be like an elevated city that's glass on either side and reflective. And that's like an artist rendering, of course. But earlier I saw a picture of what I'll call a bunch of construction had begun yeah right but i take that with a grain of salt because i don't know what i was looking at and it certainly didn't look like i sold them they had bulldozers like earth movers of different varieties moving sand around yeah and i'm like you know you can't just make the sand smooth and build on top
Starting point is 03:04:05 of that like you guys know this right i hope you know this yeah i don't know how you do that they better with that sort of glass place investment they better be very familiar with sand because that's what they're going to be building on like i saw the pictures like even that artist rendition that's the absolute best that a professional could make that look like on top of the soccer field can you imagine how dystopian and horrid it would actually be to live in 150 yard wide super city full of like them like just people who can rob you and then just go just gone i want those i fly away into the desert the glass and have a burning laser beam that comes across like what are you showing us now like this isn't proposed by anyone it this isn't it i bet
Starting point is 03:04:55 that's what they're saying if this is it this is oh i love the fucking crew boat that's the render of the of the of... This is awful. This is fucking ugly. Why did they pick these angles? They can't build this. They're incapable of building this. Do you know what time the sun rises with this kind of horizon? I know about the Lion City, but...
Starting point is 03:05:16 Wait, what? Oh, you think this isn't the Lion City? No, it's an artist's renditioning. I've seen the outside of it, and that that looked ridiculous but if this is supposed to be the inside of it then it's just it's science fiction i stayed in harlan kentucky and the little piece of harlan kentucky i was in had tall mountains on either side and it's like i've never been a place where sunrise is 10 a.m and sun set is like 3 p.m but when you've got mountains on either side of you that's what happens this line city is gonna have sun shining down on it from like 11 50 to 12 10
Starting point is 03:05:52 and it's gonna be so hot reflecting off the glass coming in just everyone inside it's the sun minute what a retarded idea yeah it has like it doesn't make any who would want to live in that like it would immediately become a slum because all the richest people would be like oh no i'm gonna go live in that burj khalifa we built like honestly who would who would live in this you think like the wealthiest among us the burj khalifa is that super tall building in dubai it's the tallest right yes the tallest well did did they do no that's not the one where it's the one where everybody does the bullshit they did this they did a little too much of the spire thing which is we've done a way of it's a spider inspire to a building and
Starting point is 03:06:39 then claiming that as the top is a lie when a third of your building is antenna that shouldn't count okay maybe so but but that's the one that you saw tom cruise like hanging on the outside of and stuff i saw um that kanye had claimed that he came up with the idea for jango and that quentin tarantino had taken that from um from him and he's a truth teller and then i saw quentin Tarantino's get asked about it, and it was really interesting because I thought he was going to be like, yeah, Kanye is crazy. But instead, he was like,
Starting point is 03:07:14 I did speak to Kanye about a music video he wanted to make for Gold Digger. And he wanted to be a slave. He wanted to be a slave in that video. And that's as close as he came to coming up with the idea for Django. So just a suggestion of being a slave in the video.
Starting point is 03:07:35 Yeah. Tarantino grabbing. I also saw Will Smith talking about that role, how he was offered that role. And he wanted it to be a love story more than a revenge story so that's why he like said no to it eventually i'm so glad that will smith wasn't jango jamie foxx is a jamie one of the greatest jamie foxx is one of the greatest talents of our generation like forget acting he does impressions he's like a renaissance man of like the entertain the entertainment talents of drama like he can act sing
Starting point is 03:08:06 dance comedy fucking anything stand up all of it all the different ways of blows the pants off will smith in every way he's the entertainment version of an actual like bruce lee or something like he's incredible i think i like will smith's music more i can't even name getting jiggy with it
Starting point is 03:08:22 huh let's go to miami all right yeah i don't think I've ever heard Jamie Foxx's music. He definitely has some. Have you seen Ray? No. Alright, well, Jamie Foxx becomes Ray Charles. He blinded himself for a year and a half.
Starting point is 03:08:40 That's commitment. Yeah. That's huge commitment. He still deals with light sensitivity issues he still does to this day he you know he he he does he did gain a bit of a sixth sense though a bit of echolocation that he now employs and you know throughout his life it's incredible i remember as like a kid like really pumping up the extent to which like i thought blind people had additional sense like like i really just assumed like they're so sharp no not at all no but then over time i guess like
Starting point is 03:09:13 i realized you don't really see a lot of blind people in public like they stay where they belong well underground yeah like like the mole people they are that's what we should start calling them there's this guy on youtube blindies like there's this dude on youtube who's blind and i saw like this is a long time ago but he had these videos where he'd be like how do i picture color and things and like he was like a born blind person i was super interested in that and like i don't know what answer i expected but they were just like what is blue to you and he's like i have no conception of that like i have nothing to like base that reality on like color is not something that i can conceive of and like the things he would talk about in the the handful of videos i
Starting point is 03:09:58 watched like it was like sad but also like interesting like he'd be like someone asked like what are you like curious about with like people that. Like he'd be like, someone asked like, what are you like curious about with like people that can see? And he's like, I just like, you can be in a big crowded room and just like know that the person you want to see or be with is like over there. And then you can just like go through a crowd and you know where they are. And I was just like, oh, oh, that's so sad like because he's like for me i need to have someone with me to hold my elbow to walk me to the person i'm trying to see i i don't want to be in a big crowd like that because it's like it's so much sensation and
Starting point is 03:10:35 like loss like do you think that the blind should be able to hold public office sure yes knowing america it'd be like the department of transportation two yeses okay i um on taylor you mentioned you mentioned the youtuber yeah have you seen the videos where the deaf guy tries to tell you what things sound like so he'll like no i don't know hit a a glass that's half full with water and then like feel the vibrations and be like i think it sounds like that is so fucking funny i have to watch that you know the blinds i think they're called mini blinds with all the individual things so he'll like bring that up i think it sounds like mini blinds with all the individual things so he'll like bring that up i think it sounds like you know it's pretty funny to hear he's not too far off on some of them yeah i watched that
Starting point is 03:11:31 interesting um who's the guy that trained harley um uh sam hide reason i watched that sam hide thing moms again recently i was showing to somebody and there's a deaf actress in that and i had forgotten how raunchy they were i cannot believe that i cannot believe that i cannot believe that and she's so upset that that thing if you've never seen it whatever you you don't quite recall it basically sam hyde maybe 15 years ago skit yeah has had it's it's a skit where him and like three of his friends are. Here's what the skit is. They actually in real life paid for paid for actresses to portray their mothers in a skit. And the actresses show up acting like each boy's mother, driving them to the audition, to the, you know, the shoot and everything. Like they're filming everything.
Starting point is 03:12:23 And then that's it. Really? They're not like 19 year old and gorgeous. No, they're they're like everything. Are they cast appropriately? They're not like 19-year-old and gorgeous. No, they're like moms. They look like moms. They are, yes. And so the content
Starting point is 03:12:34 of the read is that one of the mothers has discovered the IM chat between the four boys and how raunchy it is and it's about them. And so this is all... About the moms. Your mom is a real dirty how raunchy it is and it's about them and so this is all about moms yeah it's like your mom is a real dirty fucking cocksucker for sure i bet her hoover was has been blown out since the nixon administration it's like ha ha you're i bet your mom drinks the most jizz and come i bet she
Starting point is 03:13:02 gargles it like a real ho ho ho like santa claus because she's fat and like and they're reading this out loud this this like bad humor like silly stuff but the women are sitting across and slowly slowly it becomes about the actresses not about their characters yeah and then and where it's like in the and because the moms were like i want them to read out loud what they wrote. So they're going through it. And then it's like, I want to fuck Barbara, the actress that is playing Brendan's mom. She is by far the hottest.
Starting point is 03:13:34 I bet she gives good head. I would love her. I would love her forever. And I would stroke her beautiful hair. Her eyes. Her eyes are nice, too. Yeah. I'm talking about barbara the
Starting point is 03:13:46 woman we hired from california to fly out here like and barbara's has a line then and she's like i don't know about all this and they're and it just becomes more and more awkward and funny it's really good by the end it's wild it the million-dollar extreme moms. And one of the moms is deaf, like, actually deaf. So she's struggling with some of the words, with name, his name, Cal, Cal. And it's really fucking funny, because your boy, I keep spacing on our man. Sam Hyde.
Starting point is 03:14:19 Sam Hyde. Because Sam Hyde is ruthless to the deaf woman. Yeah. He's just, like, openly mocking her inability to speak clearly. He's like, what? He's like making faces and shit. It is fucking mean spirited by the end. But it makes me laugh.
Starting point is 03:14:39 But by his standards, it's like par for the course. Oh, yeah. Because if you've watched Officer Maggot or if you've watched his skit where he's like a father on his like today's the weekend he gets the boy and the boy's fishing and he's like sitting next to his son he's got his weekend when he's smoking cigarettes saying horrible things like he's like smoking his cig like not helping his son fish and being like son i told you half half the horror things about your mother just a horrible father giving bad advice like how to pick up girls in your kindergarten stop wearing your hat like that you look like a faggot all right i'm gonna be real with you
Starting point is 03:15:19 who gave you that hat you know like just being just be a weird mother. Yeah. Your mother, that scumbag. She's fucking ladies. It's, it's awful. No, Sam Hyde is a, is a funny guy. He's hilarious.
Starting point is 03:15:31 I haven't popped over to his channel in a while. I wonder what he's up to. Probably still boxing, right? Like box. That's I'm getting bored of the boxing. You know who Jake Paul's fighting next? Yes,
Starting point is 03:15:43 I do. Andrew Tate. It it's they're doing contract negotiations now and i'm worried about it because they both sort of fancy themselves as alpha businessmen that they won't be able to reach an agreement but um uh i really want to see the fight if you don't know andrew tate was a world champion kickboxer he is a professional fighter i watched a olympian like sort of uh dissect andrew tate's fighting and um some of the guys he was fighting were real chumps there was a guy who got hit in the arm really hard and like kind of wanted to quit like from from an arm punch and uh the olympian is like i've had fights
Starting point is 03:16:30 like that too you know like sometimes you get in there with the other guy and he's like i would start lightening up on him once i saw that he couldn't take an arm punch i try to win nicely you know but yeah um but i'm he if he became world champion of any organization I have to assume he beat somebody good and he's definitely I've seen Andrew Tate talk about fighting and stuff and he would kick my ass that much as sure so
Starting point is 03:16:55 that's been one of the interesting things about him throughout his rise to popularity that he could back up all the stuff he said maybe not with facts but with an ass whooping if need be like there's never gonna be that oh he's just a pussy yeah that's what it is i bet you're a real internet tough guy like nobody can say that because like yes i am an internet tough guy the kind you've never dealt before dealt with before he could go on a whole fucking scary ass rant at that point because he's got these credentials. Jake Paul just beat Anderson Silva.
Starting point is 03:17:25 It's time to start admitting that Jake Paul knows how to fight as well. And boxing is not kickboxing. Boxing's not kickboxing. That's true. They're going to be in Jake Paul's world where it's all boxing. It's all hands.
Starting point is 03:17:42 I really want to see the fight. I continue to bet on Jake Paul. He looks enormous to me. He looks way bigger than Anderson. I will bet on Jake Paul until they put him up against somebody. I don't think he's bigger than Tate. Maybe not. Maybe not as tall, but he looks beefy to me.
Starting point is 03:17:57 He looks thick and powerful. I could be wrong. I'm sure he's only going to be bigger. Jake isn't at his maximum. He's going to keep getting bigger. He's got to grow if you know what i mean like like he's not you see some athletes and you're like that's you you've done it like you don't get bigger than that tyron woodley's not going to be better next year no no tyron bulking up is not going to help tyron or make like his physique was complete um i don't think jake paul's physique is complete i think as
Starting point is 03:18:22 he continues as an athlete he's just going to get bigger and better because he's, what, 25? Oh, that's just the picture I wanted. I wish the left side was a little full frame, but you can see the body differences there. Andrew Tate, I don't know. He seemed taller to me. On the right, you can see how he's clearly taller. He does look taller for sure, yeah.
Starting point is 03:18:44 Jake's hair is better. Jake's body is better too. Andrew Tate looks like he's he does look taller for sure yeah but um jake's hair is better jake's body's better too andrew tate looks like he's a little melted compared what do you think about that shirt the guy with the sunglasses has i really like it no i really like that shirt it looks like you know i like it for him but i'd never pick it for myself i don't have the pants too right what is the um the the strings is that a drawstring off the pants or at the bottom of the shirt yeah i think it's it's from the uh the pants for sure okay yeah there's some casual like like okay in that fight you think the guy in the middle could win i don't know that we should count him i mean there's no way he's not trained
Starting point is 03:19:19 i mean look at those look at those bands on his wrist. Those are... He's a black bracelet. Yeah, he's got a black and a yellow bracelet. One on the left is actually a Kyle Strong bracelet. He beat Cancer as well. So it's nice to see him repping that there. Yeah. Still waiting for mine in the mail. Anyway, I'm super excited about this fight.
Starting point is 03:19:43 It's one of the few where I really feel like both sides are a draw for me because andrew tate like entered my universe youtube feeds me so many of these fucking red pill videos yeah that i i'm probably becoming an asshole from it i like that pearly girl that you keep linking me um yes she so i it's she's been recommended me to me before, but sometimes I'll admit when I see a woman who is sort of throwing shots at women or when I see a black person who is throwing shots at black person, whether they're right or wrong, sometimes I draw back a little bit and I try to look at like, oh, is this an actress or an actor? Is this someone portraying the role that's a woman a that's a grifter yeah no i don't like that i mean grifter oh that's that's the thing that i look for like oh you're just jumping on this popular bandwagon and using your either female or person of color position to well they're they're profiteering off
Starting point is 03:20:41 a bit of uh you know political silliness. But I don't think that's her. I don't think that's her necessarily either. I do like her. I think she articulates her points very well. I think that... I agree with a lot of her points. She's echoing a lot of the stuff
Starting point is 03:21:00 that James Gentleman, the black guy who passed away from the heart attack. Kevin his name Kevin Samuel or something close? I'm sorry, I can't think of his name. It's not Kevin James, he's from King of Queens. Samuels comes to mind? It doesn't matter. Kevin Samuels. She brings up the idea that 80% of marriages are ended by women and then 90% when it's
Starting point is 03:21:25 a college-educated woman. I'd heard him also quote that stat, so I'm sure that that's sort of like... I'm like, oh, I bet there's a political pocket of people who believe this sort of neo-conservative ideas
Starting point is 03:21:42 of, oh, we need to go back to the traditionalist, you know, the woman is happier in the home. And, you know, that whole line that both of those seem to be preaching to women, specifically who are trying to be happier in their relationships or whatever. No, I like her.
Starting point is 03:21:57 I like listening to her. But I worry that if we had her as a guest, it'd be a bit of an echo chamber, right? We're going to be like, you know, you make so many good points. I don't know which one I want to talk about first. How about you just do your whole thing? We could do that, I guess.
Starting point is 03:22:12 We could. I don't know. A lot of times when we have a guest, we don't spend that much time talking about their core competency. We'll cover it maybe the first hour, maybe less. You want to know what makes her tick? You want to know what her hobbies are? If she kayaks? If that hair is really uh i like her hair like i like that or i i wonder um you know how would she do in the other topics talk about the ukraine more
Starting point is 03:22:35 and see if she likes films we should stop calling them that yeah okay yeah i mean is that what they are not exactly just anything where someone dies in it i think of a snuff film as you want to call it death porn would that be better well let's call it war porn let's call it combat footage enjoyers there's there's no way to mitigate the fact you're the cfj the combat footage CFJ well in any case we enjoy a good explosion and a Russian burning alive on the battlefield because they have it coming
Starting point is 03:23:12 like go back home yeah I guess so I don't know a little part of me feels like Canada take notes you pass michigan we'll give you that canada is not gonna do shit you can have the upper peninsula canada hasn't
Starting point is 03:23:30 had a military in 60 years past the great lakes it's not true it could it may as well be no like what okay what's the list of countries that canada could invade and like fucking clean up like you think that's funny i've got a little blow your mind moment you know they they claim that canada fought in world war ii and they even give them credit for one of those beaches on d-day right okay none of that happened there was no fifth beach no it's made up it's like that uh that other tower that fell on 9-11 yeah there there is there there is not there is not and never has there been a Canadian military. I buy that. And you know what else?
Starting point is 03:24:15 Israel is the one who actually invented that arm for the space shuttle. Oh, I forget about that. The Canadians are really proud of that arm. They claim they did it, but it was actually Israel. Did they? Yes. Stealing valor from Israel, Canada. My gosh. I mean,
Starting point is 03:24:28 how much of that arm did they really design? I feel like they just stole it from one of those lamps at the beginning of every Pixar movie. I bet they couldn't even make the arm because we gave them a weekend
Starting point is 03:24:47 with one of our Nazis. I don't know why we're randomly being anti-Canadian here. Thank you. This guy's got to come back. I don't know. I think my real point was that I love Canada. Everyone in Canada. I think what I was saying with that was that those Russians have it coming because
Starting point is 03:25:02 they're in somebody else's place with guns and stuff. Yeah yeah yeah i i was just stuck on the like but the soldier you know do you blame the soldier yeah yeah do you blame some like poor schmuck who got dragged by you know some commissar who was like you'll do this or i will kill your family like wow i don't say that i mean do you think they have a choice do you think they could be like i'm having fun farming here and they'll be like oh well then you'll do the you buddy like i don't say that i mean do you think they have a choice do you think they could be like i'm having fun farming here and they'll be like oh well then you'll do to you buddy like i don't think they're all being forced to gunpoint i think there's a lot of them that i see a lot of shit on social media all right i see them on social media talking shit all right i shouldn't swear where are you on tiktok oh i don't have tiktok i don't either but i'm talking
Starting point is 03:25:42 shit sometimes too and they're kind of known for being prolific rapers. They're all about it. Are they? And torturers. Lots of torturing and rape happening. Lots of torture. They keep finding torture, what do they keep calling it? Torture dungeons or whatever. And they keep
Starting point is 03:25:59 finding bodies that have been tortured in mass graves. I didn't hear about mass graves or anything. Lots of mass graves. There's footage of them heaving the bodies into them yeah jesus christ yeah yeah it seems like they're fighting pretty dirty yeah so i like when they drop up drop a 17 on one from i don't know half a kilometer up because i've used those in tarkov i can relate i'm like yeah it does have the fuse is too short isn't it that shit ain't balanced thanks nikita you can't get out of your hole in time dude and then they always look like they're
Starting point is 03:26:33 off target until they're not at least for me like i'm expecting wind i guess or maybe when they drop it then maybe the the drone is drifting but it always looks like it's like going over there but then in the last second it's like a curveball almost and it's like right in there yeah i'm sure they don't show us the misses you know there have to be misses that no of course you're making a montage you you're going for quad feeds you're going for stuff like that no one's showing clips of like damn look at this close call like i saw him drop i don't think it was a grenade I think it was a mortar and it landed on the guy's helmet. I think it killed him before it exploded.
Starting point is 03:27:11 One way that you can get me to watch all this war porn, if they make a montage set to let the bodies hit the floor, I will watch. Take me back to 2008. You remember 2007, 2008? There wasn't a montage that didn't come out with let the bodies hit the floor. I will watch. Take me back to 2008. You remember 2007, 2008.
Starting point is 03:27:27 There wasn't a montage that didn't come out with let the bodies hit the floor. That's what everybody did. Have you seen the sniper footage? There's some thermal sniper footage. Oh, you know what happened. So they have this like, I don't remember who makes it, but it's a rifle that has a ballistic computer
Starting point is 03:27:41 integrated into the optic. So essentially what this means is at night you can look at somebody 1200 meters away and you fucking like ping them with a laser and it immediately says you know their exact range and then it puts like in a video game it puts a little dot on the screen and it's like put that dot on the bad guy and so he puts that dot on the bad guy and it does everything else he squeezes the trigger and you see this bad guy drop at like 1200 meters or something and it was wild that i don't know if that's the same gun i saw but i saw one from a while ago that did that it's compensated for everything yeah and it ran linux which made me really excited but yeah um that's they have so much tech over there
Starting point is 03:28:27 to see how the ukrainian army has like in the beginning i saw those guys with the mosin-nagants i was remember when they were filling up the molotov cocktails and they had the mosins and shotguns there were guys at checkpoints with pump shotguns i was thinking like this is gonna be rough and then like you look at them now i was watching um this guy sort of he reviews footage from over there and he's like this guy's wearing 400 boots like like look at his watch he's like he's like do you know who makes that hat i do and he's like breaking down how well the ukrainians are like suited up and equipped for like uh and any i don't know he went on and he loved those boots let me jump in i wonder if this makes a big
Starting point is 03:29:10 strategic difference in winter you know i i hear about how there's like one and a half million russian uniforms that just weren't where they're like winter equipment that they thought they had in stock and you need snow you need snow camo when it snows right i was saying this like it made me a month or two ago like snow's coming is the snow camo coming because nothing screams noob like a guy in the desert with his greenies on right like like if they're out there and like bright green that nonsense they wear that drab green digital shit in the white snow like it's it's gonna look bad it already looks bad when you see them i've seen the footage of the guys like beating their helmets in with
Starting point is 03:29:50 their fists like showing how how like shitty their their own their helmet i've seen that like why even wear it oh just like breaking it to show like this is bullshit you could punch it in like sometimes they shatter because they're fiberglass and sometimes they dent all the way in because they're like pot metal like i don't even know what that is like a pepsi can helmet like a pretend helmet yeah yeah it it would be a bump helmet and they're useful for like spelunking yeah but not bullets i mean a bicycle helmet would be better a bicycle helmet or like a i would much rather have my motorcycle helmet on um those helmets suck i mean there are helmets that are so bad even in tarkov that you're like no no i go no helmet that'll just slow me down would you ever would
Starting point is 03:30:31 you ever go spelunking like no no no that scares the shit out of me i am i'm down for more dangerous shit i'm shocked you said no so strongly oh i watched spelunky risk reward recently and this guy was in he's in a cave and the cave seems to be like 12 inches tall but wide right so he's crawling on his belly and by the way i didn't say knees i mean he is like a snake trying to slither deeper into this thing he i think he took his helmet off because his helmet made his head so big it didn't fit in this tunnel anymore how small is a fucking tunnel that your skull doesn't fit in it yeah and he's like guys i'm in a bit of trouble because when i looked at this with my flashlight i thought that it was going to get taller i don't know the word but
Starting point is 03:31:24 you know deeper and there's going to get more i don't know the word but you know deeper and it was going to get more spacious by the way i didn't say it he's in like two inches of water right so he's on his belly in two inches of cave water with who knows what living in it and uh he's like but i see now that it was the reflection that i should have stayed in school of the ceiling on the water so he thought it was twice as large as it really was and now that he's there he's like i need to turn around he's like okay well turning around is not not happening i need to go out backwards you know feet first the way he got in there and he goes i'm stuck and the video ends. And I'm just like, the fuck?
Starting point is 03:32:07 Imagine being stuck underground. And I'm not small. I'm kind of big in the chest. That's not the sport for me. That's like panic inducing. If I can guide you back to that Netflix show, The Cabin of Curiosities, there's one with a grave robber. And his problem is that he owes a lot of money. I watched all that. uh there's a very he owes a lot of money there's a very rich yeah and there's a very rich man getting buried tonight but the rats keep getting to the
Starting point is 03:32:30 bodies before he can that's how voracious the rats in this graveyard are so sure enough happens again so he follows the rats and the the corpse with all of its jewels on it down deep into the caverns and he's crawling he's going through a real scary kind of situation like you're describing, but I would never go spelunking. No, no. The risk and reward isn't there. There's nothing down there worth going to see. You know what I mean? Whenever I
Starting point is 03:32:55 see those videos, they're like, yeah, we went. Okay, was it a big cavern down there that had beautiful colors? Mostly browns, you know, and with a flashlight. Those kind of get washed out. So, why the fuck did you go? What if the amoebas got you? What if you went down there and cracked open some sort of
Starting point is 03:33:11 body of water that's been like an ecosystem unto itself for millennia upon millennia, and there's something down there that your body can't even deal with? What if it goes inside your... What if an amoeba goes in your ear and goes in your brain and it, it turns you into one of those,
Starting point is 03:33:26 uh, as one of those parasite amoebas that makes you go back home and start making a cocoon for yourself or something. That'd be horrible. Yeah. And I'm going to spelunking. That's your best case scenario was an amoeba making you into a cocoon. And worst case scenario is like you go first,
Starting point is 03:33:40 get stuck. And then like, you're just stuck between rocks in the earth yeah that's awful you know what i would no one like to hear you yell like i hopefully you have a buddy or something sometimes i get tempted to climb one of those towers though because uh but there's actually i saw there was a horror movie about like some two girls who are climbing one of those radio towers or something like for the fun of it and then they get up there and they have like a major climbing malfunction so they're dangling and and i don't want to see it as a horror movie but as an activity i kind of do i don't know when i see those videos of people
Starting point is 03:34:15 climbing those crazy high towers i'm like man if you clip on and clip you know you get larry have you have either you've been in a climbing harness, Woody, right? Have you, Taylor? Yeah, I've been in a climbing harness. They're very secure when you're in a good one. And especially if you're given the opportunity to tie the rope off here close and bounce around in it and really feel it out. I got to do that and it made me very
Starting point is 03:34:40 secure once we got off the ground to do some things that look silly. I don't know. If you're secure in those harnesses, you like do some things that look silly i just i don't know if you're secure in those harnesses you can do some wild stuff do you hide and not be that scared of it i know yeah yeah but i think with the the harness and clipping in like you know you got two clips obviously so like you clip in and go a few rungs and reclip it's annoying it takes forever but it'll take longer but i'll never feel scared right and you can climb a 2 000 foot tower or whatever they are and get to do that you don't feel scared i felt a little scared like zip lining i mean there was
Starting point is 03:35:10 zip lining is very similar right you're in a tree you're up high you're clipped in you're safe and there's a platform around the tree like picture a little ring around it you can stand on the edge of it and lean backwards until you would fall off but instead you're trusting your equipment to save you and i did it a bunch i liked it you know i would say i'd hold on to the rope as if that protected and uh um and it's kind of neat but i'm scared like i'm scared i just like being scared you forget the the first thing we did which was not lean but jump the fuck off backwards we we we like we needed to go down and so they're like okay so let's back up to the edge holding your rope all
Starting point is 03:35:51 right fuck your heels get on it and they're like now just jump off backwards don't worry on an automated belay thing is that what i think so i think it was going to automatically like slow you down and you had it you had the two ropes, so you could mess with it too and slow it down even further. You could stop in the middle if you wanted. That, to me, was a weird thing I'd never done before. It was almost like one of those trust exercises, but instead of assholes from your office,
Starting point is 03:36:16 it's a very expensive climbing rope. That's so overmade for what it's doing. Once you get the goof around with those climbing ropes a little bit, if they're tended to by someone who knows what they're doing not me like i got my rope not knots tied by a professional um then then you'd feel safe i think i could no i felt don't get me wrong i was scared several times during the zip lining the backing off thing got to me a little bit i certainly wasn't gonna bitch out of anything i was gonna
Starting point is 03:36:43 do everything but but like there were several times when i was i'll tell you the part that scared me was when we got on that platform and it started raining and they commented that oh it'll go way faster now because the cable's wet and i was like fuck you didn't want to go faster and get it done quicker we were up because we were up so high. Already once that day, I had instinctively put my hand in the pulley and I didn't say anything to anybody. We got gloves on and he pulled my hand in a little
Starting point is 03:37:16 and I'd be like, what were you thinking? What were you thinking, Kyle? What were you thinking? For the rest of the day, I was a little shook up and I had to be extra mindful. Don't you put your fucking good hand into the inner.
Starting point is 03:37:27 You do that, you might as well cut the rope right after. We're not going anywhere without this. Yeah, you hold the rope a lot, I think, to control your speed, but you do it behind the pulley. If you do it in front of the pulley, you get mangled. You lose fingers. You have accidents. Remember that scene in U-57 one, the submarine movie where the
Starting point is 03:37:47 guy gets his hand caught in there and it grinds all his fingers off and the pulley that seems like I remember watching that in theaters at like 12 or 13 and being like, oh, oh, he's under the sea. Who's going to take care of his hand? But then he like quickly was killed. Yeah. So it didn't it didn't matter but yeah zip lining is a shit activity it's not very fun oh yeah when we went on that
Starting point is 03:38:10 big one though no it was a good activity i really enjoyed our time that day like wait were you waiting lines where did you like have a big group we had a group of maybe eight eight okay maybe eight and uh you know it was a lot of couples and like you guys were half of the group so that's fine it was just woody and i and so you guys were half of the group, so that's fine. It was just Woody and I. And so, and so everybody there was very friendly. Um, like,
Starting point is 03:38:29 like, like Woody's always personable. He's like yucking it up with the young couple right away. And, uh, and so we all got along well and had a good, good time. Everybody's taking pictures and shit.
Starting point is 03:38:38 I think I went on like another different zip lining, like tour, like a month after that, when I got home, I enjoyed it so much. I went to a place called Navitat, which is in North Carolina, I think. That one's a good one. You do more like...
Starting point is 03:38:50 It's more about how big and beautiful the trees are you're traveling through there, I think, because you get off and do kind of an arborist-like experience. It's more hippy-dippy. Don't oversell. This is our regional arborist. Ziplining is a good time.
Starting point is 03:39:09 And this might be a weird thing about me, but I really like quality equipment, right? Like the Cal mention, like the quality of the pulley, they give you the thickness of the, the overdone zip line itself, the harness that you're wearing.
Starting point is 03:39:22 This is all real deal. life-saving equipment i had all that stuff but i bet it i bet my dad let it go to rod over there because i had i had um when we did that uh that stupid reality show thing they they stiffed the company by the way they built a ten thousand dollar zipline at my place most of that's cable and and uh and labor because those cables are expensive and then they stiffed the guy and the guy shows up and he's like i never got paid and i'm like well they paid me he's like who's they i'm like they are the ones who owe you money i am the one who they paid in part with a zipline just so you know i took a sum of money and i was like yeah i'll take that much but you got to throw in the z of money and I was like, yeah, I'll take that much,
Starting point is 03:40:05 but you got to throw in the zip line. And they were like, yeah, that's fair. What are we going to do with it? Take it with us deal. And that was our deal. And now I owned a zip line and I had like a professional harness and
Starting point is 03:40:14 everything. I could zip line down and I wanted to integrate that in some FBS Russia videos. And I think it did. But, but they stiffed that poor guy. They never paid him for any of his labor or materials. Oh, yeah. It really stinks. So labor or materials. Oh, that sucks.
Starting point is 03:40:26 That really stinks. Oh, go ahead. No, I was going to. No, no, no. I was going to say, we breezed over it earlier because there were other, I guess, more interesting political things. Not in my mind, though. Missouri certified cooler than Georgia and North Carolina. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:40:44 Coolest of the three states i didn't think that we'd be the 20th one to legalize it we do get the most snowfall but who cares i want to be high as shit oh you're talking about cool i guess i'm the only one with good snow but i'm i'm like that panned out great like i think maryland got it. I don't even thirst for it. No, I really don't either. It's not nearly as big a deal now with all of these alternatives because this sincerely does the same shit. It's just a legal loophole.
Starting point is 03:41:16 T-H-C-O-H, it all gets you high. But just having it legal is going to be fun. People are going to be more comfortable just doing it. It's going to be good for your economy too. It's going to be like fun like people are going to be more comfortable just doing it and then like it's going to be good for your economy too you know it's going to be good for your economy there i think it's like a six percent tax they did but then my municipalities can add like three more so i guess it'll end up being like nine i bet it it helps crime in the long run i get i bet you've got more people fewer people turning to opioids because now they're using legal marijuana and now they're not contributing as much to what's actually causing the shootings and the
Starting point is 03:41:45 I hope so. Opioid shit is a big deal in the Midwest. It's a huge fucking problem. Hopefully people turn to it. I don't imagine anybody who's into opioids already is going to be like, oh weed! A drug that's 1% as powerful? Let me switch to this.
Starting point is 03:42:02 No, you gotta get them before they turn to the opioids for don't know don't take pills people just buy some legal weed in the cool state of missouri next time you you guys want a weedcation you just come to my house oh very nice look i mean last time i mean i was let's get all of us we'll bring some fans all nine of us oh yeah well i'm Dirty. Is it okay if I throw up on the EMT? Dirty lives. I was thinking mainly you guys. Woody, can you pick up Dirty on the way to my house?
Starting point is 03:42:34 Obviously, I can. We're coming in a van. Van life, Kaysha. We're renting an RV, and we're going to go to the toilets when we get there. Just park it right in front of my house. We're showing up like Kevin Eddy or Cousin Eddy for Christmas. I'm bringing Gertie.
Starting point is 03:42:54 I'm bringing Lil Mike. I'm bringing Mitty. Mitty's a big boy. He's 6'4". Let's all get matching tattoos to commemorate the weedcation oh they can sleep in my gym oh they love to work out yeah i assume you and woody will split you know yeah i i only sleep in bathrooms now because of my fear of the nuclear
Starting point is 03:43:20 holocaust i like to curl up in a good tub let's like to curl up in a good tub. I got two tubs. You can sleep in it. You can sleep in my master. We'll be close the whole time. I get the shakes when I think about it. It's been a real. You should sleep in our master bathroom tub now. Take care of you.
Starting point is 03:43:33 Oh, yeah. I bet I would feel safe in there. Yeah. It's like, is it, are those big tubs actually made of iron? Yeah. I don't, I think it is. It's a solid piece of metal. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 03:43:44 Dude, it is it is that thing would genuinely protect you from like i think a tornado is like a bullet i think i think a tornado is a big part of the problem is either getting carried off or like projectiles hitting you and so those old cast iron tubs fix both those problems a little bit it really would it it's a very strong tub i could hardly lift it and i'm kind of strong now, but it was all my strength to just lift one side of it at a time. I mean, that's how you know quality. I was at a place one time, and they had some artillery shells. I think it was just the projectile, the part that goes out the barrel.
Starting point is 03:44:19 Because I think they fire those with kegs of powder. It's not even a big shell anymore. because I think they fire those with kegs of powder. It's not even a big shell anymore. They put the projectile in, and then they've got multiple bushels of powder that they put in behind it. But anyway, those things are so heavy. Like you said, you can barely move it.
Starting point is 03:44:34 It stood up to my chest, and it was about as big around as my arms could comfortably go like this without going crazy. And when you start, you had to get it rocking a little at a time. At first, it'd just tip a little, but it was had to like get it rocking like a little at a time at first it just tip a little but it was so heavy and it had such a good center mass that you could like get it to start doing that wobbly thing so that a grown man eventually might be able to push it over but not at first it was so tremendously heavy what is this we're talking about i got an
Starting point is 03:45:00 artillery shell like the part that gets shot i don't know how much just moving a shell was that hard it was so heavy it was bigger than me like like like it's it's like up to my chest and like as big as a barrel or something they were huge i didn't know they were that big i didn't either i have like a poor person fucking ceramic bath came with the house. Despicable. I want a 300-pound bath with legs. I've always thought this. Legs on a bath make it a much, much classier thing. No. These are lazy
Starting point is 03:45:34 baths you better taking. Not for me. I'm of the new age. The Jocko Wilnick breed. The Neo Jocko Wilnick. So here's what I do. I have a stand-up bath, okay? Because I'm not laying down. You're up at 3 in the morning. This is like a 55-gallon drum that you're in.
Starting point is 03:45:51 No, I think it's for old people and orthopedic patients and shit. But you step right in and you close the door behind you and then it fills up. So you have a standing bath, right? I've never heard of this. I got to do my calisthenics while I bathe in my ice water at 3 a.m.
Starting point is 03:46:09 At 3 a.m., just like Jocko Willink would tell you to do. Yeah, that's right. Jocko Willink is a lesson that it's like. Have you seen Jocko's daughter? No. Is she up at 2 in the morning working, grinding? Yes. You got to be up at 2 in the morning grinding
Starting point is 03:46:21 because you have a podcast to do at 11 a.m. and then you're in bed by 3. And it's like, what are you talking about? I saw her doing, I think, jiu-jitsu with him. And she looks like she would definitely kill me with her bare hands. Yeah, she looks a bit like Jocko, but, you know, a pretty girly Jocko. But she looks powerful. And she's got good genes for fighting because Jocko's a good guy, right?
Starting point is 03:46:44 Dude, she's legit here i'm i told you picture incoming can you show that zach it's uh safe for work i told you yeah got the the strength genes from uh from jock jocko was he the navy seal yeah marine something yeah navy seal speaking of warrior kids yeah Jocko. Was he the Navy Seal? Marine something? Yeah, Navy Seal. Speaking of warrior kids, yeah. Jesus Christ, that's good genetics, man.
Starting point is 03:47:13 Yeah. He looks really good for 51. There's another picture, I'm pretty sure it's her, where she's wearing a purple belt. Which is pretty legit. Quite an accomplishment, yeah. This is a guy I would only talk shit about if he wasn't around. I don't know if it's safe.
Starting point is 03:47:29 I don't know if it's safe to talk about him when he's not around because he might make himself around. I mean, he's going to come to my house and I don't wake up at four. He's going to pounce on me. He like broke his friend's larynx. Are you familiar with this? No. We're not even friends. So this guy is his friend right
Starting point is 03:47:46 he's a friend of his joe rogan like they travel in this circle they all know each other and this guy decides to roll with jocko he rolls a little bit but he knows that jocko is an entirely different class apparently he's really good i think he's been to adcc i'm messing that up. I want to say world class, but the bottom of world class. But very good. And apparently a rough training partner. So this guy rolls with him in the same way that if I roll with an 11 year old, that kid is counting on me to keep him safe. If he wins, it's because i allowed him to if he
Starting point is 03:48:26 comes out of this uninjured it's because i have self-control i could hurt an 11 year old yeah jocko does not share that philosophy of responsibility and he gets a choke on this guy and fucking cranks it and he breaks his is what is this tube called i call it your esophagus esophagus i think esophagus is a critical tube yeah and he like broke it and it's like trachea and like it it didn't heal right it was a problem i think it was a surgical thing and jocko's like your hands you're the one who can't protect yourself what a fucking douche if that's true, this guy's a fucking douchebag. I saw him rolling with his dog. Can you imagine that?
Starting point is 03:49:07 Can you imagine teaching someone to skate and then full body checking them like a boarding and being like, welcome to the show. And it's like, dude, put me on skates. Does he know how to skate? If he doesn't know how to skate, I'm fucked. If he doesn't know how to skate, oh, dude, if it takes him more than three seconds
Starting point is 03:49:24 to learn how to skate, I'll pulverize him him i'll board him into the boards because all it will take is me throwing my body a boarding kyle is where you where you you don't hit someone right into the boards imagine you're standing on skates next to the boards a foot away if i hit you or your shoulder is gonna hit like your shoulder is gonna be okay if you're standing three feet three and a half feet from the boards and i hit you hard your face is going to go into that ridge called the stanchion and you're going to lose all your teeth and break your face that's called boarding and so i'm saying that basically this guy is the same level of douchebag as someone who has played hockey letting someone start to learn to skate and then blindside boarding them into the, and being like, oh, never turn your back to your opponent
Starting point is 03:50:09 when you have the puck or whatever the fuck. Well, you heard it here first, folks. Taylor calling out Jocko Wilnick. He wants to do battle as soon as possible. If he's never skated. If he's skated before, that's for the birds. I'm not even interested. Will you have a stick or no?
Starting point is 03:50:30 I mean, it would benefit him more to have the stick for balance. So, yeah, I'm not going to let him have a stick. No, do you get a stick? No, no, I can. I can like someone who doesn't know how to skate. You know how easy it is to fuck them up? Like if you know how to skate at all, like take a guy who's super athletic put him on skates he doesn't know how to skate some 15 year old who's like the worst on his team here's a scenario like we put jaco at
Starting point is 03:50:54 one um you know net and you at the other and y'all are gonna meet in the middle and do battle or you know he might not make it to the middle because we didn't give him skates um all right he's got skates it's worse you're right you're right well see i i couldn't if he got his hands on me he'd beat the shit out of me because he'd just take it to the ice where the skates no longer mattered and he just beat my head into the pencil with one of the skates yeah i mean that's he could go happy gilmore style or whatever he was trying to stab me make a happy gilmore joke we were racing to it you won my teeth yeah no but actually i don't want to get in a fight with you jocko right now i would get so polite i love when you're right now and then he was like confirmed
Starting point is 03:51:42 in connecticut or something I'd talk shit. And I'd be like, come to my state. Come to Colorado, bitch. That's why this is here. You can find me in Colorado. No. What would a douchebag be? Yeah, I really didn't like it. I'm pretty confident i'm right because i like i saw jaco
Starting point is 03:52:05 interviewed and tell his side of it and yeah that seems that shows a tremendous lack of self-control even jaco's side of it even jaco's side of it didn't sound good right and and i and i also saw the victim talking to joe rogan about it in a separate interview and uh he's like you roll with jaco no you don't want to do that like apparently it's only safe to roll with jaco if you're on jaco's level what a what a no self-control bitch like to actively injure someone who's like learning at a lower level than you is what a scumbag does that's what scumbags do you don't you don't jump in with someone who doesn't know what they're doing and they leave is this a skill-based matchmaking argument?
Starting point is 03:52:46 Because I would stand for it. He's not here to defend this bullshit anymore. He's pub stomping. We like pub stomping, Taylor. We like pub stomping. I'm on Kyle's team with this. Taylor's wrong. I mean, if you guys just made a strong point, I'm flipped.
Starting point is 03:53:00 Everything he said about the matchmaking is accurate, though. He's right. They're just moneyballing it. Make as many people happy as they could yeah yeah i mean it well of course they're moneyballing it yeah but i really like to hear that i i had i'm sorry i cut you off the conclusion of the you're being like trump right now side of it like i didn't know that it was in jest i was a fool who took it at face value. And Hutch is like, we've been making your like Trump jokes for months. And to take it like it's serious and say that I'm that much of a liberal cuck or whatever,
Starting point is 03:53:31 like, you know, you just got to host a debate, but about anything but skill-based matchmaking. Like, I don't want to talk about that. It seems like Hutch and Blame Truth are not tight. You realize that they're not friends,
Starting point is 03:53:44 right? That they despise one another they seem like enemies yeah i i did i guess i was just putting a lighter spin on that and i thought they were friends like 12 years ago no i i don't think they've been friends for quite a long time those are they have very different um ideas about the way things ought to be you know and they're um no they've always very much disliked one another i would say really oh yeah i didn't know they like disliked each other prior to this skill base i didn't follow any of the drama like as i i mean that's just how it seems oh but but i know it's not just like like they're not kidding around like i'm
Starting point is 03:54:19 every video that blainfield makes is about how he hates called duty though they really are you know I mean if that's what's getting him clicks it makes sense why I'd continue I've watched a couple of them I like them
Starting point is 03:54:30 there you go now you're gonna get keeps I mean I agree with it I hate it too I just want to beat up on some noobs I'll admit it like if I can find a way
Starting point is 03:54:36 to like scam the system and get like put up against noobs I'll do anything short of actually cheating like I want to beat up on the worst players I can possibly
Starting point is 03:54:44 get I'm not going to go through the trouble of a smurf account like he was talking about where i'm joining my like second account that's retarded i'm so bad at the game that i'm already when i play solo i'm fine like like when i play solo i'll go like i don't know like my good game will be like 25 and 5 or something like oh yeah that was a great one but then when i play with them it's i'm going negative a lot i'm gonna play tonight i'm gonna do it i've gone back and forth three times like not two hours ago you were like i'm done i'm not playing this anymore this is dog i'm over it it's it's fucking annoying i just want to play with my friends that's what it really is we just
Starting point is 03:55:19 need i just need a new game to come out so we can get i can get them off of this to tell you mentioned that show that i ended up watching like mr maguli's phantasmagorium whatever what that's silly the thing with the rats dragging the bodies down oh the cabinet of curiosities cabinet of curiosities i watched that and it was most of it was pretty good like there was one or two episodes it had the black it's like an anthology so like one-off episodes and so you get that black mirror problem where you'll get something really fucking good like that politician having to fuck a pig and then two episodes later you'll get a third of the way in and be like oh this sucks there's no stakes here like and you just skip that one yeah there was a couple of them i didn't like i couldn't name them all off the top of my head the episodes i like the rat
Starting point is 03:56:02 episode a ton though that's the first one i watched. I watched them out of order, and I picked that out of the bunch. The autopsy episode was very strong, in my opinion. That was the one where I was like, oh, this is a good show. Yeah, I like that one. That might have been my favorite one. There was this commonality that's not a spoiler, so if Woody cares to watch the show, maybe he can be on the lookout for it, and maybe you'll remember it, but it seemed like characters
Starting point is 03:56:22 kept getting stabbed right here in the third eye, like over and over in different stories. Even in the autopsy episode, there was... Oh, you're right. I didn't notice that. Yeah. I don't know what that signifies or is about. Oh, Guillermo del Toro is that fat guy in the beginning? Yeah, that's Pappy from It's Always Sun.
Starting point is 03:56:40 Ooh. I thought I was like, this show is cast pretty well. what the fuck is this goober doing like introducing things he directed one of them i think at least and then he's like doing the alfred hitchcock presentation uh of of all of them and they're all directed by different directors and he even presents that he's like this one's directed by like katie james or whatever and like here we go it rolls out i them. I like most of them. There was maybe one or two that I thought were weak,
Starting point is 03:57:07 but I like most of them. It was as, and, and you know, it's Netflix. So like popcorn, they're good. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:57:13 It was good. Oh, I am so hungry. I've been thinking about, I've got a big steak in my fridge. Is it too late to go just make a big steak for my, I, you know what?
Starting point is 03:57:23 I'm making a big steak for myself. You're a big boy. You can do what you want big boys do it though i'm gonna piss all in my bathroom afterward i'm trying to sleep there taylor it's my house uh i have a topic that i i've been looking forward to your answers um what is the coolest thing you own i don't know if other people would think it's cool and i but like my the like level of gym stuff i have i think is very like i've got machines lever machines pulley machine i've got fucking something for everyone down there like i've had all that stuff for like a good bit of time now and And like, still I can tell it was like good purchases for me because I'll still go down there like today.
Starting point is 03:58:10 And I'll just be like, God, this rocks. Like I can, I have so much stuff. I can do everything. Like, and so for me,
Starting point is 03:58:18 like, that's what I am. Like, I think is the coolest. Just having a awesome gym in the basement. Did you see Toby? He's enormous he's cool toby's like 10 weeks old he was born august 1st so like yeah uh he's enormous
Starting point is 03:58:33 both your answers are better than mine what is it it should be that bathroom you know there's big things it's not the most expensive thing i own like some of my motorcycles i think are really neat they're cool Especially there's the one I do the adventure motorcycling on means a lot to me because we've been through a lot together, broken some bones. But what I picked up, I have a knife that I got when I was like nine. It's a decent knife. It was, but it's 40 years old now and it's always been mine. always been mine. I think that might be the coolest thing I own. It is neat. Well-worn.
Starting point is 03:59:08 Yeah, it's well-worn. I got it because maybe it's not. Maybe I wasn't nine. Maybe I was 10, but I was going to be a Boy Scout. And when you're a Boy Scout, getting your first knife as a Boy Scout was part of the induction of it. Finally, you're allowed to have a knife, you need it for like starting fires and shit and uh you didn't get me a merit badge on handling the knife and i've had it forever and i still have it so i think it's cool it is cool yeah it is very cool i don't really have anything i do have a knife that my dad got me when i was
Starting point is 03:59:40 that would have been 91 yeah Yeah, so like 5. It's got a deer antler handle. It's got that Damascus steel blade type thing where there's a little bit of silver in the black. I've had that thing since I was 5 or 6, I think.
Starting point is 03:59:59 For sure. I got these knives the other day. These are so cool. I like these knives. I do got those knives yeah these the other day these are so cool i like these i do like those knives does look neat and you're not even i wish i had fake blood so i was like that's how we get in the show cut it jack that's it yeah i'm ready to go like do a whole dexter thing you are that's cool i like the carrying case too yeah that is cool dexter had a little I'm ready to go do a whole Dexter thing. You are.
Starting point is 04:00:27 That's cool. I like the carrying case too. That is cool. Dexter had a little more... I keep them here. More than just similarly sized knives. They look expensive. I think they're about $100 each. Maybe a little bit more. Wow. Are they from Japan? They are from
Starting point is 04:00:42 a blacksmith in Tennessee, I think cool that's even cooler yeah they're a little rough around the edges so i like it but they're supposed to be chef knives they're all like different um like kitchen knives but uh i don't want to like use them because i've already got chef's knives so i'm just gonna keep them in this like roll them up and keep them right here do you have a thing to sharpen your knives? Yes, I have one of those. I wouldn't say professional, but one of those really good wet stones that has. OK.
Starting point is 04:01:10 Maybe six different grades and you got to get everything wet. And then I got the stropping cloth. So maybe once every three months, I'll get all the knives out and like get them so sharp that it's dangerous. And and it's been. That's how you drop them and stab your foot clean through almost. That knife I dropped on my foot was not only a head, it's the heavy Wusthof kitchen knife, chef's knife, and it was so sharp.
Starting point is 04:01:36 It was razor sharp. That was so stupid. That's a good cut. You guys want to call it a show? Yeah. Yep. I'm going to go play Call of Duty. I'm going to go make a steak.
Starting point is 04:01:46 I think so. All right. PKA 621.

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